The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Duke's all-time choke vs. UConn in Elite 8, Tiger Woods arrested, Will Wade to LSU | 03.30

Episode Date: March 30, 2026

Duke blew a 15-point halftime lead and Bomani is in full hater glory. He relives UConn’s wild comeback, the logo heave that broke Duke’s heart, and why the comedy of the collapse depends entirely ...on who you root for. They also get into why this NCAA Tournament has felt especially fun, from Illinois’ run to the rise of big-personality coaches like Dan Hurley .Later, Bo unpacks the latest Tiger Woods DUI news, the toll of back pain and painkillers, and what happens when an all-time great can’t really do the one thing that once defined them. Then they hit the college hoops soap opera of Will Wade returning to LSU after his “strong-ass offer” era, the NC State house-buying saga, and why LSU might be building the most obnoxious coaching lineup in America. Plus, voicemails on Duke fans, Jay-Z discourse, and a legendary update on the Dewey situation from last week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original presented by Intuit TurboTax. My name is Bovani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. He only gives us four stars. I'm inclined to believe that you are a hater, but if you're the right kind of hater, you're going to wish you could give us six stars today. Shout out to all you Duke fans who are listening. I don't know why the hell you doing that, baby, because it's a part-day over here after they blew that 15 point lead at halftime, Ryan, I hit you. And I was like, yo, Yukon letting us down. The homie Jason England was like, Yukon letting the hood down. I told you, the game was over.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And then whittle by whittle, chip here, chip there, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, it's like that story about the aunt that was, you know, frittering and, you know, doing shit. I don't remember how it goes. I just know dupe loss. Duke lost in embarrassing fashion. Yo, yo, yo, hold on, hold, not just embarrassing fashion, the most embarrassing fashion possible when you think about it if you are Duke, right? They lost on a play that seemed to be a demonstration of weak will and poor fundamentals, which is getting trapped in the middle of the floor and then the younger boozer gave up the booty, right? Couldn't throw the ball over the trap, it got deflected, and then Duke took the L when white brailing hit a shot. from the logo. 35 footer.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Yeah, not just any logo. That big ass NCAA logo. That's barely any wood spots on the floor with all the shit. They got on the floor. He hit that shot. That was a ridiculous shot. That was people like ice water in his veins. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:01:52 That was not. Broken blocks. No, that was not ice water. That was a hot potato. Like, oh, shit. Like, it wasn't like he got it like, came, turned his shoulder square. No, he got it.
Starting point is 00:02:03 he dropped his feet back to where it was. He plugged that thing halfway there. I was like, oh, snap, it's going in. That was before I even knew his name was White Brailin. I don't feel like Duke would take on a White Brailin. Like, I know they don't got around to regular Brailins, but White Brailins, they from the wrong side, like a different kind of wrong side of the tracks.
Starting point is 00:02:20 You understand what I mean? I don't know nothing about that boy, by the way, except he's from some little town in Indiana. If he is not actually White Braillein, I apologize. I have not bothered to Google up his parents. but like white brailing is another step right like like i think ryan just took himself off the screen so he could get on the case i was i was looking at his hair i won't tell you the other thing i was
Starting point is 00:02:50 gonna say but anyway who boy that was fun that felt good i was so glad that game was not like at 11 o'clock at night because i might have woke up one of my neighbors and i tried to be a good neighbor you know what i'm saying i don't do that i can't believe that way i was out here rooting for Danny Hurley. Danny Hurley is not my type of hype in about eight different ways. Man, listen, that day was losing that game so bad at halftime. I was like, he better go in there fire their ass up. That's right. Yeah, dude, do what it takes. You know what I'm saying? Apparently they did. Josh and Katie Mullins, I think we can go. Yeah, I think we're saying. Yeah, I think we're, I think we're saying. I mean, I'd like to know the other names that were on the list. Right? Like,
Starting point is 00:03:35 You want to want to want a white braily. I'm like, so I guess, I guess Andre is an old people's name now. Yes. So, like, there's all kinds of those days. Like, like, Andre, Kareem, right? Like, I think they are, they're the new Buellas. Right. They're the new Gertrudes.
Starting point is 00:03:50 They're the new names that have just kind of like, Earl. Yeah. There's kind of, you know, gone in the ether as the generations passed. Yeah, it was really weird that you look up one day and it's like, yo, this is an old person name now. Yeah. So maybe that's the case. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I want to know what other names they were thinking before they settled on Brailin. And good thing if he could, good thing he could hoop. In fact, I bet that did great things for him in the hoop thing where, I mean, I didn't know people got access to video and everything, but when they're reading down the list of who the players are and you hear that the boy Brailin is out here killing it, you're like, oh shit, let me get a look at him. You know what I'm saying? And they don't even know.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Like, it's some people that probably showed up to get a look at his game. They wouldn't have done so otherwise if his name was, I don't even know what counts as a white person name anymore. I don't know. I don't know. I think they're all both ways. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:39 I mean, Brandon Ingram is brand. That's true. Yeah. You know, status still. The most unlikely occurrence. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Of my entire life. And I've seen Donald Trump get elected twice. You understand what I'm saying? Like, like, like this is who, boy, never saw it, never saw it coming. Never saw it coming.
Starting point is 00:05:02 But anyway, man, I don't even know, like, I don't know if I got some analysis for you. you, it's been a really, I will say this, it has felt like a very exciting NCAA tournament. My brother and Vinny had come over to the crib. We were watching games on Saturday night.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And we were talking about just how exciting the tournament has been. And my brother said he feels like he says that every year. And Ryan, that's interesting to me because I actually don't feel like I say that every year. Like I think most years have some potential. But like even that Illinois, Iowa game, it wound up being a spread. But I was a really good, like, entertaining game to watch. And also creating new characters. I mean, that Iowa coach that's come out of nowhere who's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:39 like the big tens, like dominance of all sports since NIL. I mean, speaking of Michigan. Whoa, boy, they beat the brakes off Tennessee. And I had sent you a text during the day. And I was like, am I going to have to do something about how Rick Barnes actually turned into a good coach? Well, I mean, I could, but I don't have to anymore. Yeah, we don't have to anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And speaking of coaches who are struggling in these tournament rounds, John Shire. Yeah. One of my good buddies said, what are we going to admit to John Shire simply has warning track power? And I don't feel like we can, I mean, I don't know what, yes, you have to give a certain measure of blame to the coach when you blow a 15 point lead. Yes. Right. But what happened at the end of that game, at least it felt to me, was just because. kind of, ah, college students, college freshman, no less.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Moment got a little bit too big for him. But man, you don't really see that much high-level basketball with a dude getting trapped in the middle of the floor like that. Like, I get why he would not want to throw it back. Right. Under any circumstance, if we can just get this ball across half court, we're straight. But there was at no point in that possession,
Starting point is 00:06:59 did I think that the way it was going to go is that the ball was going to go the other way? Right. from where it went. Like I did not think they were... It starts feeling like the fourth pass. Yeah, I didn't think, right. Sometimes someone, like, you know, steals the inbounds
Starting point is 00:07:13 or something gets deflected there or is a five second, but that turn of events almost never happens. Yeah, I didn't think, I did not think they were going to force a turnover. And as we're sitting here, buddy about buddy Jay said a text that said, the difference between comedy and tragedy
Starting point is 00:07:27 is who it happens to. Correct. It's so real. I mean, coming up later in the show, Tiger Woods. Man, look, I got so loud when the shot went in. And then I turned conspiracy brother because it was 0.3 seconds on the clock and then they put it to point four because as you know, you cannot do catch and shoot on point three, but you can't on point four. And like, there they go.
Starting point is 00:07:53 You see how they do it? There they go. That's that's the shit. That's what we're talking about. See, that's what they do. That's what they do. But yeah, no, that was a really good. I mean, tournament all good with me.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I mean, honestly, to me, I was like the champion. gang. I mean, I guess I could watch the final four. It's, it's an option I have. Right. I don't know. But we're going to see. But shout out to Illinois.
Starting point is 00:08:19 You know what I'm saying? The, the merry band of Eastern Europeans getting it done. They look really happy too. Yeah. Like I will say that something that I do think counts and applies when it comes to college basketball, and that will not change, even with the money, apparently, is the ages by and large of the players. Now, of course, we, you know, we got some dudes like that dude that Michigan got, who apparently is almost a pharmacist. Yeah. At this point.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But maybe I'm just reaching that age, but them boys at Illinois when they won that game, and they, you know, with the coach and everything, it still looked like what you'd idealistically like for college basketball to look like. And I do think that when you watch these games, like up through your 20s and maybe even your early 30s, it doesn't hit the same as it does once you're literally twice as old as the guys who are out there. And now they, like, you do really start seeing like the youthful affect of all of this. They just start to look younger and younger and younger. Yeah, but there's an emotional resonance to the whole game of college basketball that is different than it'll be in the NBA. And even if these guys are getting money, this is still.
Starting point is 00:09:32 for a bunch of them the coolest shit that they're ever going to do in their lives. Yes, and at the highest stage they're going to be on by far. Yeah, and even if they got a bunch of money in their pockets over it, it's still the coolest shit that they've ever done. And it still looked like a game that was being played by people who are engaging in the coolest thing that they were ever going to do. And again, maybe this is simply a perspective that I had to age into. But there is a charm to that.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And I have been a person who has said the player should absolutely get paid, right? but it was going to make things a little bit less fun. Right. There was no way around that. So, like, for example, Darren Peterson was unaffected by losing in the second round of that game in a way that I don't think happens in a world before all this month.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I just, somebody who clearly cares about winning and stuff like that, right? Like, I don't think that's how that winds up going. But I did, I saw this also with the Michigan guys after they won. I didn't really get a chance to watch the Kentucky. the Yukon celebration because I was too busy having one of my own. But, you know, I imagined that they was over there, like, pretty happy to. It does still feel like the NCAA tournament, which is very important for the NCAA.
Starting point is 00:10:43 I have understood more than I think most people who share my views do. The reason that they kind of viewed all this money as an existential threat to the game, because it was counter to the branding that they had sold. like whether or not you thought amateurism was important, it was a linch pit of what they sold. And the idea that these guys are in it for the love of the game was huge. And they are clearly not just in this for the love of the game. They might love it too.
Starting point is 00:11:10 But this is not a noble sport and pursuit at this point. But it still felt like it with these games at the end. It still felt like it with these buzzer beaters that we saw. And that's important for all these parties involved, that it still feels that. way because otherwise the basketball simply is not good enough to support this without the trappings that are around it like that big boy Reed that played for Yukon. It was amazing. He had great footwork. He had great post moves, but he could never get it done on the first one. Like it was like,
Starting point is 00:11:43 God damn, just go up. Nope, I got a dream shake a couple more times. And then eventually he'd always get there. But it was just like, oh yeah, that's right. These guys aren't that good at basketball. It's just fun to watch them play it. Right. Do you think part of that is the, the, the, the, the characters of the coaches sort of like kind of reemerging themselves. Obviously, Rick Petino made a big run. Calapari went far. I mean, Dan Hurley is now becoming moving up in the ranks of great college basketball coaches. Yes, it helps.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It helps. I mean, look, I was thinking about this. We'll talk a little bit more about Ryan's messy-ass school in a little bit. We'll get there. But I have a person who does not. I'm a person who loves Kim Mulkey because I love that Kim Mulkey exists. Not because I agree with Kim Moki on a bunch of things or whatever it is. I love the fact that she exists.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I love the fact that she'd be out there wearing them crazy get-ups on the sidelines. Yeah, I love how obnoxious she is about her political views and the things she says at the day is and stuff like that. Because we need more of those. That is the thing with Dan Hurley. Dan Hurley has taken it upon himself to be, like there aren't that many full-on assholes left. He's out there asking referees if they want. LASIC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Like he's like, like he's a fan. Like he's heckling the refs. Dude, you can't do that. What are you talking about? But we need, these characters are necessary
Starting point is 00:13:07 to make this game go. The players as characters in a certain way, we don't, you don't want them to seem like they've done this before. You don't want it. And it doesn't look like that.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And again, this is a huge nail in the coffin for the NCAA because I thought they were right in believing that that would, be affected or changed by all this, but no, actually, it has not. And maybe if we're being honest, I think that's true, though I could be wrong just because I'm so, so happy that Duke lost. Listen to this. Listen to this. Man, just send me a text. The homie Jace. So Duke has had
Starting point is 00:13:51 the last four losses, which goes into last season, because this is only the third loss they head this year. This was the peak in-game win probability for those last four losses. In the final four against Houston in 2025, 97.5. December, 2025 against Texas Tech,
Starting point is 00:14:10 97.8. February against Carolina, 95.1. Today against Yukon, 98.7. And I'm not about that church life.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Just never really been my bag. However, it's clear that there's only one reasonable explanation for that. God don't like ugly. Tiger Woods, I was at a memorial service on Friday when the word came down to Tiger Woods that got busted for DUI, and I'm there. And somebody who had previously been very invested in Tiger Woods just loudly says, man, fuck him.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I was like, whoa. like the news of Tiger getting this DUI. Like it's interesting because Tiger's 50 years old. But you normally see that sort of hostility. And he's not the only person that had such a feeling. And maybe I think a certain part of that is the stigma that's associated with DUI. But it's like Tiger's being treated like he's somebody who's wasting his potential still. Because that's the thing that normally brings it out of people.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I had a conversation with my good buddy Michael Collins the other day, and we were talking about the fact that people still think Tiger Woods can win golf tournaments. Right? He's 50 years old. He's got all these issues and everything else. And it's like, yo, you think Tiger's going to play in the Masters? As if he has a chance to play. Like nobody cared in 1992 if Jack Nicholas was going to play in the Masters. Like, oh, he's going to play. We're going to watch, right? But that's how it feels like people view Tiger.
Starting point is 00:16:01 is like, oh, we still think that he can win this or whatever. And so therefore, when he has these things happen, the thought is he's, the thought is in line with his recklessness and his selfishness, right? I'm not inclined to go there. Now, an important detail is I haven't read any of these books that are about Tiger Woods or like, or even I did not read that really lengthy write Thompson story. Did you read that one about Tiger and the Navy SEAL stuff? I also read the unauthorized biography that came out about five years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Okay. So I know the right times of peace. That's the one about him trying to be a Navy SEAL and all this stuff, right? And so it's kind of his 30s were spent kind of chasing these hyper masculine pursuits, right, many of which messed up his body? Like, is that a fair characterization? Yes. Yeah, messed up his back and his knees.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah. And then I guess he was 34 in 2009. or right around 34, because his birthday is at the very end of the year when he crashed car in the driveway and all of these things. But I saw somebody who was just like, I forget what they said about his 20s,
Starting point is 00:17:13 and his 30s was chasing these macho things or whatever, and then, you know, it gets to the 40s. And I think I understand wanting to dismiss him because of, you know, like the idea of that simple sort of masculinity. I understand why people think it's stupid, but I also understand why somebody would chase. it. You know, because in the end, man, as stupid and silly as people think that macho stuff is, man, macho dudes who pull it off, they test really well. People really like them, including the people
Starting point is 00:17:43 that claim they think is stupid. They achieve a lot of great things that other people don't. Yeah, yeah. It's a thing. I get why one would chase it, especially somebody like him who, for what you can know about him without having read all the books and read all the articles. he's just always been a little lost and trying to find himself, right? Like that, that cablination thing, that's a lost person trying to find himself. And at this point in his life,
Starting point is 00:18:12 where he can't even really play golf, which is the one place where he knew exactly who he was, he was Tiger fucking Woods. You can't even really do that. Like, the fact that Tiger Woods is out there on that virtual golf shit they be showing, you see that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 The fact that he participated, in this? Yeah, I mean, he's a big part of the reason he exists. Yeah, this is kind of beneath you except golf. It's the place where he gets it. It's the place where he knows. And so the idea that he wouldn't know what to do with himself makes sense, right? Like, if I had to guess, the biggest reason LeBron Jay is still playing basketball, so what else he's going to do? And we can have all our arguments about you could run a business, you could do this, you could do that, all this things that we could say, but nothing else in the world is going, for LeBron James is going to feel like LeBron James feels playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:19:02 You know, like, and I'm not saying LeBron doesn't know who he is, because I think he has a much clearer sense of who he is, right? And his role and stuff, I think he's very aware of those things. I don't, he is, he is not a lost soul in the way that I feel that Tiger Woods has been a lost soul. But Alan Shipnuck, the golf rider, I don't know if you saw the tweet that he put out about the car wrecked Tiger head in California. Or five years ago?
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yes. And the big point that he made was that that was not a wreck that you get in because you fell asleep. Like the accelerator was down. There are different questions to ask about what, remember when Junior Say Yao had that car wreck? Right. Now Jr. Say yow, I think we can safely say, especially considering, you know, how things ended for him, Junior Seah was trying to kill himself. I am not comfortable saying that Tiger Woods is trying to kill himself. I'm just telling you that the way that he described that accident, that was, this is a man with problems,
Starting point is 00:20:08 I guess is what I'm saying, and I'm not so inclined to chastise people with problems. Now, I also think that it became clear and we'll see what it all shakes out. If Tiger Woods was impaired, he blew a point zero zero zero on the breathalyzer, which is to say if he was impaired,
Starting point is 00:20:22 it was from pills. And he refused to take a urine test. It was from pills. And I will point this out. I've had multiple people make this point that I'm about to. make that they from personal experience would not wish back pain upon their worst enemy and that back pain has made them sincerely think about killing themselves like the level of
Starting point is 00:20:48 back pain that we're talking about all these back surgeries that he's had and I didn't realize this Ryan that there is there's a school of thought where there are like questions about where the back surgery is a scam yes like which whoa boy what a terrible scam what a terrible that would be to play on me. Right. Right. Like, oh my God. But imagine being lost in everything else.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And then you have all this back pain, which certainly sends you to taking these pills. Because Tiger Woods, he's seeing like he's too square to, you know, smoke weed. I mean, you can see it. You can see it by the way he's been walking. Yeah. For five.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He walks like a seven-year-old football player. Yes. Like, it is, like, he is in pain every moment of his life. Yeah. And so my inclination. is not my inclination about DUI is typically not to judge as quickly as others. And I get why people do. But I also think that some of that judgment or the inclination to do so has a lot to do
Starting point is 00:21:47 with our society's difficulty figuring out how it actually feels about alcohol. Right? Right. I don't need, as a non-drinker, I don't need to find these ways to try to rationalize the presence of alcohol and that when people do dumb things because they've been using alcohol, it's not the alcohol's fault it's a personal responsibility shit, right? Like, I don't, I don't, I don't have to try to
Starting point is 00:22:08 square all these ideas at the same time. I can look at it and, what I can look at it though and say is there are very few people who catch DUIs like outside of Scottsdale, Arizona, where they just give everybody a DUI, Maricopa County, right? But there aren't that many people who are getting DUIs you don't have a larger problem.
Starting point is 00:22:27 You know, and so from there, to me, it's like, yes, obviously this person has done something that was selfish. They plan poorly, everything else, but it's more to it when it gets there. With this, I would not be surprised if the answer was the tiger was was addicted to pain medication, which would make him like a significant number of people in this country. And I doubt that was something that he ever wanted to do, if that's how it ended up. But I think it's very easy for us to understand how such a thing could happen. I mean, shit, it happened to Prince. You know, like it's happened to so many people, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:04 who at Prince had been a, like, basic teetotaler, basically forever up until that point. Like, these things get people and they get a hold of them, and they can even get a hold of Tiger Woods. And then if it gets a hold to him, and then we talk about all the other compounding factors that come with it, man. I just came away from that, like, feeling bad for him, you know? So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I guess I'm not saying that is any sort of like statement against anybody that views his situation judgmentally. At least that's not what I appear to, that's not what I want to do because I know how people can reach that conclusion. But I do think it's worth noting or worth looking at him is that even though this is a larger than life figure, this is to me a man who
Starting point is 00:23:45 is clearly in physical, some combination of physical, mental, and emotional pain. And I think that this is a reflection of that more than it is anything else. It's time to slide your glass slippers over your lucky socks and hope for a fairy tale in.
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Starting point is 00:28:36 Now, if you haven't heard. All right, Bo, if you haven't heard, Will Wade's going to be the new basketball coach at LSU. He returns after spending 2017 to 2022 being, let's call it dismiss and disgrace, having two quick stops at McNeese State and NC State. In the meantime, Bo, what was your reaction to the story? So this is like one of them things where, like if he was into reefer business,
Starting point is 00:29:03 how like in New York went to refa business, they're giving jobs to all the people who they busted for reefer offenses back in the day as kind of like an equity situation. Right. Is that all those guys that were caught up in that scandal that Will Way got caught up in? Rick Petino. Rick Petino back at St. Johns. Will Wade got himself back up to NC State.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Like that would count as the back portion. What's my man's name? Sean Miller. He is at Texas. He went back to Xavier. He took a step down. But then after the world changed, everybody was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:29:38 yeah, what are we talking about here, right? Now, is that going to apply to those assistants? All those black guys, we will see. But for those who don't know, Will Wade was a coach at LSU, but he got caught on FBI wiretaps talking about the quote, strong-ass offer, unquote, that he had made to some player. LSU had to let him go. He was kind of lost in the hinterlands.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And then he got a job at McNeese State, which, by the way, five years are not working, go work at McNee's State. Makes perfect sense, right? Like, I think that's a reasonable, you've learned your lesson. And he was playing the game. Like, he wasn't doing anything that jumped out as being beyond the pale of what is actually accepted behavior there. But anyway, he's there.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Then he gets the job at NC State. And see, NC State always in a tricky position, man, because I mean, Ryan, you're an LSU guy. He appears to be a good coach. Is that fair to say? Yes. Yes. He's certainly a better coach than they've had in a long time. Yeah. Yeah. He's been the best coach they've
Starting point is 00:30:37 had and probably since Dale Brown left. Yeah, Postdale. Okay. So, I mean, that's right. You guys had John Brady was the immediate postdale higher. and okay Dale Brown's a very good man so I'm not going to say what I was just about to say
Starting point is 00:30:52 but anyway so NC State gets real weight man this dude he'd take him pictures that are like remakes of like Jim Valvano stuff and all it is and NC states are really hard job and like I'm trying to say this
Starting point is 00:31:10 without joking on them and it's always so easy to do I understand this is a feet of self-control for you. Yeah, yeah, but no, I mean, they're 20 minutes away from Carolina and 20 minutes away from Duke. Like, they're in it. And look, and used to be on par with those schools.
Starting point is 00:31:26 They went on probation at the absolute worst time, which was in the explosion of cable television, changed college basketball. And that's when they got in trouble and they fell behind and they never caught up and they just want to be better, right? I don't think their fans are nearly as unrealistic as people make them out to be. They just want to be better.
Starting point is 00:31:44 They're like, there's no explanation for why we, can't be better, all of those things. Totally get it. And they had Will Wade. And it was looking for a while, like, guys, I think Will Wade is going to go back to LSU. Right. And apparently the only people who didn't know this were the people at NC State in part because Will Wade at every turn was telling them he's not going to go back to LSU. And then LSU had already hired the athletic, oh, was it already hired the president from
Starting point is 00:32:12 McNeese State and then hired the athletic director? I'm lost in the deals, but clearly went and got his guy from McNee State. Yes. Was that the president or the AD? The AD. Okay, so they went and got the AD, and I think the president also came from McNice. Yeah. Everybody had a connection to Will Wade, is my point.
Starting point is 00:32:30 And then Will Wade after apparently the day before telling the AD and agency state, just talking about what they were going to do, then his agent let him know that he was leaving. And he went back to LSU. Send me email Will Wade's not coming back. And there were reports and for days Will Wade's going to go to LSU.
Starting point is 00:32:50 The thing was at that time LSU had a coach. Yeah. They had not fired their coach yet and everybody knew that this was going to happen and then the internet got to sleut them and this is the most amazing one.
Starting point is 00:33:06 There's reason to believe that Will Wade put, got under contract on a house February 23rd. Yes. This is peak college
Starting point is 00:33:19 college yes. But he he bought the house like this this is he bought a house I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:33:30 a house in Baton Rouge. Yeah. I didn't specify that part. NC State is in Raleigh, North Carolina. He put on the house on February. 23rd.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Over a month ago. Over a month ago. Over a month ago. He bought a house. And I want to look at this with my own eyes. And this is exactly how it went Ryan. Two, three, four, five, six. After that, NC State went one and six.
Starting point is 00:34:02 So the players clearly knew. And not just one in six. They lost by 29 to Virginia. They lost to an awful. Notre Dame team. They lost by 29 to Duke. They lost to, okay, Stanford wasn't awful, but they only lost to them by one point.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Way to go. They beat Pitt. Good job. And then they lost to Virginia, and then they got to the first four, and then they lost again. Coincidentally, their coach. By the way, this is coming off
Starting point is 00:34:37 of beating the brakes off Carolina. And then coincidentally, it seems their coach bought a house. In that route. In bed. LSU is looking. And look, I don't blame LSU on the Lane Kiffin thing.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I don't think they did anything wrong. But they did hire Lane Kiff. You're going to have, speaking of something we mentioned earlier in the program, you're going to have Lane Kiffin, Kim Mulkey, and Will Wade in the same building. That is,
Starting point is 00:35:00 this is LSU coaching right here. This is, you guys have decided to be the most obnoxious program in America. Which, by the way, can be fun. Here's the thing I'd say, though. Lane Kiffin has to win. Yes. Will Wade simply needs to put forth a respectable product. Correct. Correct.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Like, Will Wade has to make the tournament every couple of years. Honestly, the demands of being a football basketball coach in the SEC are not nearly as bad as they used to be because it used to be important to have a good basketball team so that you could recruit. Now you just need to pay them. It don't matter if your basketball team any good or anybody's at the bad, you know, because they take them to basketball games
Starting point is 00:35:40 on the visit. Yeah. So like Nick Seamus like, hey, man, we got to get Alabama basketball back to what it used to be. We need to have a bill and that's popping
Starting point is 00:35:47 when we take the people, man, they're like, how about we just give them some money? What do you think of that? You know how you get that money by having a good football team. That's it.
Starting point is 00:35:56 There we go. All right, let's move on to the NFL. John 49ers general manager John Winch has had to come out and, you know, debunk the rumors about the substation,
Starting point is 00:36:10 you have the Prack facility, came out and said it was a big nothing burger. However, they have provided tangible steps to reduce future injuries. They've hired more PT on their staff responding to bad reports from report cards from the NFLPA. But what was your reaction to this news? So I got to say it is about the the substation thing. Because for people who don't know, there's a there's a thought that there's some kind of electrical substation that's near the 49ers training facility.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And that the internet is long said that's the reason why their players keep getting hurt so much. It's because it weakens their bones. People are frightened of Bluetooth and these Wi-Fi signals. Like that's not just these, like Christian McAfrey was talking about. He has a switch in his house, turns the Wi-Fi off at night. He's one of the, like, you know, they clearly had to get ahead of it because it got to the point where the player started to believe it. Right. But I think this is the other.
Starting point is 00:37:10 part, your players get hurt so much that people are looking outside for answers. That's my question. Like, what is it about you guys where your guys seem to get hurt? And it's anecdotal. Like, I haven't looked and done the test, you know, done any, like, quantitative testing on injuries. But it feels like their guys are always hurt in a league where everybody else is always hurt to.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But it really feels like their guys are. are always hurt. So part of this is people don't know what to believe on the internet because I have received a few is this real question mark text about that one. But also, and I say this as a person with like people ask me, but I got pretty good powers of discernment. I can't imagine what it's like for kids that have grown up in this world or just being so inundated with information that they have no idea how to tell, right? Like people who grow up in it. That's part of it. But the other part is, y'all need to do something about the fact that people get hurt so bad, so much for your team that people need
Starting point is 00:38:14 explanations. Right. You know, if people were like, and this is a story that was like started out as like a fun, silly thing in the middle of the season when some of these injuries started to pile up and has now gotten to the point where John Lynch is having to have press conference, answer press conferences about it in March. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Like this is, sigh. Right. Yes. There's a lot. It's a lot. It's a football story. It's an internet story. There is a lot going on there.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And finally, it turns out that attending an HBCU might be beneficial for your health. So a study sampled nearly 2,000 black adults who attended college between 1940 and 1980, 35 attended in HBCU, and those who attended one had better cognition amongst all three of those different time periods. HXU black adults who attended in HBCU had better memory and better cognitive function, and those who attended a PWI. Bo, what was your reaction to this news? Hey, man, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:39:16 After I graduated from Clark, Atlanta, wound up going to graduate school in Claremont, California. I had never heard of Claremontia before when I got there. But I got there, and it was a consortium. I was a graduate school, but then a consortium of undergraduate institutions. And I'll just tell you, man, I got off that plane. I stayed in the hotel. I went to
Starting point is 00:39:39 we were doing like an orientation for my program and I just remember being there and I was surrounded by like generally speaking, whiteness in a way that I had not in a very long time and just kind of the vibes and the way I felt people looking at me
Starting point is 00:39:59 and I just remember I left and I walked out and I saw a sign in front of a house and they said the Office of Black Student Affairs I walked in there and they said, kind of help you. And I was like, it just felt like I need to be here right now. You understand what I'm saying? I spent two years there and I was around, like I was young enough still like kick with the
Starting point is 00:40:14 undergrads and I'm looking at them. And I'm like, you guys did this on purpose, huh? Like it was so different than the world I had spent the previous four years in. And it was very clear to me that we had a much better time over there than they were having there. Then when I came to North Carolina and I was around those schools and I saw a level of alcohol consumption that I had never seen before when I got around those schools. I say all that to say, I am not surprised at all that those numbers work out that way because it really seemed like
Starting point is 00:40:48 my black friends who went to white schools had a whole lot more on their minds and a lot more to deal with than me and mine that was over here at these black schools, only to, by the way, typically end up with maybe similar outcomes, not necessarily superior. So, no, it does not, it does not surprise me. Their schools be, hey, their prayers had a song about it, but them schools be driving y'all crazy. Keep up the fight. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Keep hope alive. I hear you. All right, Bo. A lot of good voice meals this week. Start off of the favorite topic of the show. Hey, Bo Mani Jones. A long-time listener, just calling in, just wrapped up the episode
Starting point is 00:41:36 of Van Lathan. And it is almost a little reassuring to hear that our good friend Joel Anderson is indeed the world's biggest haters. Know some haters, but, you know, that story Van Leighton told. And I was like, man, this dude, no money ain't just ribbon on it. He's just a born hater, motivated out of spite. I'm here for that 100 meter dash, that 40, whatever I want to do.
Starting point is 00:42:02 I think it would be a great idea. Reminds me of the Ben Johnson, Donvin Bailey situation. he's giving me Ben Johnson vibes. I feel if he's losing, he's about to pull up, say his hammy hurts and whatnot. But, you know, I think it's vindication for you. Joel is a hater. We now know it.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It has been confirmed across the world. Love the show. Keep hating. Keep doing your thing. Yeah, so I appreciate this, but I need you to understand something. First of all, I need Joel to understand Ryan pick back so you don't blame that on me. Number two.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I need, Joel really believes that it's my fault. Like, he truly believes that if not for me, Van confirmed this independently. We did not ask. Right, right, like everything, Joel took a video this weekend. Oh, yeah. Did you see it?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Yes. Okay, for those of you who did not see this. Because they've been coming at Joel, I didn't be coming at me about this Jay-Z thing. right. I'm getting called all kind of Uncle Tom and fake black man and all of this stuff, right? Like, it is, it is wild. But anyway, they've been coming at Joel too because Joe had some similar thoughts to the thoughts that I had. They had Joe so heated that Joe was in the front seat of his car, ashy, and he said he was ashy. With the baby in the back. With the, no, the baby wasn't in the back.
Starting point is 00:43:37 The baby was in his lap. And he rolled for five minutes. And, and he, and he rolled for five minutes. At the top of it, you know, these stereotypes that my friends, Beaumonti Jones, and Van Lathen have been stressed. Stereotypes about him. Just think about that for a moment. A stereotype about one man. These stereotypes that Beaumonti Jones and Van Lathen saying about me about how I, you know, can't let us, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:06 I got to respond to every slight, but, and then he say he just had to do it. And by the way, all his points were valid. I agree with every word that he had to say. But he says it's my fault. I will say I love Joel. I love Joel in every pod he's on. You didn't, you didn't do it. Joel responding his critics.
Starting point is 00:44:33 That's the podcast I enjoy the most. Joe, Joel going, I hate to make this comparison because it's going to make him very mad. Full Stephen A. Yo, I hadn't thought about this. to see his Joel one of them suits and a, and like a stack of funny money so that he can come out here and start throwing money on the ground when the time comes. That's, that's my favorite podcast that Joel's on, that's including the choice. Like, should I start, like, maybe I should do that once or twice to like entertain the fans
Starting point is 00:45:03 or something, right? I just, I, uh, nah, I won't. All right. Here's our next one. Hey, Bomani. This is Edmund in Phoenix, Arizona. I'm a fifth grade teacher and I watch my suit. engage in this horrible youth sports culture.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And I was hanging with a friend of mine in Denver this past weekend. His sister is a big-time player in wealth management in Denver. And she was explaining to me that private equity is all over youth sports right now investing into youth sports. And I just want to kind of hear your opinions on that. It did not surprise me at all because, as you said on the podcast many times, what has private equity made better. Anyway, just love to hear what you think about it. Big fan of the show. See you.
Starting point is 00:45:53 My buddy, Jay Caspby and Kang of the New Yorker, wrote a very interesting piece about this last June. I think he has a book coming out. Yeah, as I say, if I'm not mistaken, he is writing a book about this very topic. I think my thoughts on this are exactly what you would think that my thoughts were on this, that it's bad. But what we're also seeing is, I mean, we see this playing out now.
Starting point is 00:46:16 These games are being played by middle class and upper middle class kids more so. Like sports is, sports will not long be a way for people to flip their economic fortunes in this country as they have been previous. Right. And I think this becomes a much more acute situation now that there's money to be made in college. Like there is room to create what is actually and truly generational wealth for a lot of people on a level playing field because of the money that's now there for playing college sports. But the same people that always got the money trying to figure out ways to keep it and to take it from other people now, aren't they? All right.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Here's our next one. What's going on, Bo? I grew up playing soccer, attended a Division I school in the Carolina's in the late 2010. College of basketball was never top of my radar. My freshman year in college was 2013. Duke had a team that I was drawn towards, and I believe the starting five was all black, and I believe that year they won the national championship. I've never really had a team to pull for.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I liked that Duke team. I tend to pay attention to them. I understand historically that's not really the team that I should ride with. should I feel bad rooting for this Duke team? Yes. To win the National Championship. Hell yeah. You don't know if I'm entirely out base here.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Hell yeah. So what was it, the 99 team he said he rooted for before or the 2015? I think it's a 2015 team. They had Grayson fucking Allen. I understand they starting fables off like, hey, Justice Winslow kicking people into, was he stepping on people or kicking people in the nuts? He was doing something real dukey.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yes. Like, Great as that Island hadn't even got. is footing under him yet to become that yes yes the answer to your question is there's something wrong with it but luckily the point is moot because they lost they lost when white brailing frantically heaved a three-pointer from the logo and it went straight through your heart because little boozer um well i have somebody hit me on the text booze and lose baby booze and lose all right here's our next one Yo, Bomani, this is Nusk calling you from Maryland.
Starting point is 00:48:54 So I live real close to D.C. about 15 minutes away. But this boy, Dewey, he's also from Maryland, but he's from Charles County, Maryland. So what you need to know about Charles County is people that are close to D.C., we say we need to catch a flight out to Charles County. Like, it's pretty far away. But my boy, he knew Dewey. And so this whole Dewey situation, you know, got cracking
Starting point is 00:49:22 and so me and my boys the group chat we were like yo this boy's from Maryland this is crazy this is that and so you know I think that's something you didn't touch on that needs to be kind of investigated is how did they handcuff my boy
Starting point is 00:49:39 and so one of my boys said yo I mean they they must have wrapped them up you know what I mean like a little burrito type because you can't really put handcuffs on that boy and another person said, yo, I mean, they caught him red-handed, apparently.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But all jokes aside, what's really interesting is one of my homies, the homie that lives in Charles County, told us that Steve Dewey was part of his bowling league. So not only was this quadruple amputee laying the bags, murdering people but apparently
Starting point is 00:50:22 he could also do a little bit of bowling love the show peace I'm gonna lie Dewey sounds like legitimately inspirational like if Dewee could if Dewee could have just held it in the road like now I understand why people's writing
Starting point is 00:50:43 articles about him like y'all can you talk about Jay Z talking about I will not lose or won't let nothing stop him look where he came that boy doey are you saying Dewey pulled himself up his own bootstraps. Yes. Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:51:02 That's America right there. Let me tell you, but I guarantee you Dewey wouldn't do it either. Dewey wouldn't vote for those goddamn Democrats. I'd tell you that right now. Dewey got himself where he was from how he did and all this stuff. Let me tell you who ain't trying to hear none of your excuses. Dewey. Yeah, I think how mad Dewey was when they wouldn't help him with the Biden.
Starting point is 00:51:23 He's like, fine, I'll do it myself. Like I do everything else. Because I do everything. You don't do everything, but I do. You're saying Dewey wasn't asking for a handout? I'm not going to break. I'm not going to break. I mean, if he was still out there,
Starting point is 00:51:42 you're not concerned that he would be armed and dangerous? He would be dangerous. You sure would. All right, here's our last one. Good job, though. Nice try. Hey, Bo, how's it going? This is Jason from Vegas.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Long-time listener. Ever since you got on the Round the Horn, I've been following you. You content all over the place. I love what you're doing. I appreciate it. So I'm calling because of funny names. So I work in a casino as a supervisor,
Starting point is 00:52:13 and I had these two women sit down on my table, one black, one white, and they both hand me their player cards. Now, while the player cards are sitting on the table. I see where this is going. So I go to swipe them in, and as I hand the cards back to them, I hand the card to the white girl,
Starting point is 00:52:32 Martha. I hand the card to the black girl, Kenesha. They look at me and they tell me, oh, you gave us the wrong cards. And I was like, excuse me? Yes. This white girl's name was Kenesha. K-U-N-E-S-H-A. Kenesha. That was one that drew me. I had another instance, real quick, Megafas, where I had another little white girl sit down on the game. She handed me a player's card.
Starting point is 00:53:02 the name on the card was L-A-C-R-E-I-A. And I'm sitting here looking at this name like, I know the same what I think it is. And I asked her, and I was like, miss, how do I say your name? She was in Ben's face and she said, my name is Lucretia. And I just started laughing, Bo, I couldn't get over it. And her boyfriend looked at me and he's like, well, what's so funny? I was like, because that's a very black name for a very white girl.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Anyway, Beau, love what you do. Appreciate it. Keep doing anything. First of all, boyfriend, why are you asking questions you know what he answered to? You did the same thing. Man, I don't remember if I told you about this one.
Starting point is 00:53:41 One of my partners, he might be listening. We never got around and talking about it. We was out one night. I was out somewhere. And he was with this girl. And I had met her before. And he introduced me to her.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And he was like, hey, this is Beaumani. And she goes, hi. I'm Lakeisha. And I'm like, I'm sorry, what did you say? Lakeisha, oh, nice to meet you. But that what did you say was the most sincere thing I'd ever say it in my life because there wasn't, wasn't no way.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Wasn't no way. And I'm like, damn, I bet you go through this every time. All right, this has to, this. This has to come up regularly. This is, yeah, yeah. Like, you understand what time it is here. You know what I'm saying? Like,
Starting point is 00:54:30 Wow, what a time. What a time. But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumbley and everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line 3-235-9-677-6767. Remember follow the right time. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.

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