The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Foxworth Friday Chiefs seek revenge, Bills vs. Ravens, Aaron Rodgers last stand | 09.05

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

On the latest edition of Foxworth Friday ahead of NFL week 1, Bomani Jones and Domonique Foxworth break down how the Chiefs can get to their 4th straight Super Bowl, the pseudo rivalry between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, if this is the last stand for Aaron Rodger and Mike Tomlin and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is Foxworth.

Friday. Dominique Foxworth was going on. Oh, it's football Friday too, which like as a country, we all love football and it's fun, but also as an industry. It's game change. It's a game change. First of all, do you like my Honolulu blue t-shirt? It's gorgeous.

It's gorgeous. Yes, I just got it in the mail. I got my hoodie for the cold season, but I needed something a little right now. You know what I'm saying? How are you feeling, though, like with the coordinators and... I feel like we have an incredible roster and a great head coach. That's how I feel. We're going to see...

Jimmy's and Joe's, baby. Like, you know, let's not get ourselves too caught up on the... especially with the approach. Like, look, they had a very good offense and they was running some plays. But when you think about it, I don't get the feeling that Dan Campbell is out here like we're going to beat y'all with skiing.

No, that's not what we're going to do. We're going to beat you. I'm looking forward to seeing what the next move. Because we talk about this before, I think with coaches, it's like we're quick to give somebody the genius label when they have done something successful. But whether we use the term genius or not,

those tip top of the league minds, they need to be able to have a couple moves. We need to test you a bunch of different ways. And like, we're seeing that with Mike McDaniel down in Miami now. Like, that man, he had one good idea.

And now we try to figure out. Like, I'm not sure. I say that they say about Ben Johnson. It's like, there's plenty to point to that's really good. But, you know this.

When I start picking teams that I think are going to have great seasons, I start with the old line. If you got a good old line, line. A lot of y'all, I mean, you have a luxury to be trickier than, uh, than most teams can be. So we'll see what happens with him, but y'all still got that O line minus rag now. Y'all be all right. I'll say the concern is on the inside, right?

Um, that's where you got it. And it's interesting seeing like the people who know more about offensive line stuff than I do. And they are not nearly as impressed with my guy Penae Sewell as they are, as they say he is not the greatest of pass blocker. But I feel like the way he. run block. What we say about his pass block it is almost being like, yo, they say that boy dirt can't dribble. You know what I'm saying? And it makes it easier for you to pass block, especially we got to play action-centric offense like that. Replacing people on the inside,

that reminds me a little bit of the Eagles. And I don't know if you know this, but they, we talked about it last year, how they was putting tackles at guard. They went found another one. Like they lost Mackay Beckett and they got another six. three hundred fifty pound I think. Yeah, they, yeah, they win-down. Because I was just talking with golf on Wednesday with Landed Dickinson being a hurt and with Beckton being out of there that they might

not be as, like, they're not going to be as good as they were last year because I don't know if it's possible to be as good as they were last year, though that's the argument to make against the lions also. The difference is they mine. So like, you know, that's not going to get you very far here on the riggy right, time. Yeah, I'm looking, yeah, Tyler Steen is the one that, I mean, he played a good amount last year, but he's the replacement for Mackay Beckton. Everybody else is back. I mean, well, injuries is a different story, but yeah, their old line is

pretty much intact. But I mean, you got two guys that could be argued the best at their position at tackles, them fellas on the inside. And Tyler Steen is 6'6.320, which is not Mackay Beckton, but sooner or later, they're going to catch on. All you guys got these. he tackles that you got because they can pass rush. We ain't fucking with dad in Philadelphia. Hey, look here. Look here. Somewhere of the next 10th, Washington is ready. Like, it's actually surprising

because the mountainous defensive tackle kind of got legislated out a little bit, but not entirely, right? Like, I guess the demands on that player became different. Like, you could no longer be Gilbert Brown. Maybe you could be Sam Adams. Like, Sam Adams, before he got to be a giant, was a, like, all-American defensive end, like edge rusher type. Like, that's what he was on the way up.

Maybe you got to be Dexter Lawrence, right? Where you have that at, like, where are those guys or have those guys been I think I saw this once as a thing about the state of Texas and the players that produced because for a while, the state was not really producing interior defensive linemen because the players that possessed that athleticism were being made to play offensive line because that's what was more valuable for what the game was that they would play it. Are we going to have to start seeing some of these offensive linemen where you go need to start

keeping them at defensive tap? I mean, that's the thing is do they, I know when I was growing up and I assume it was the same, particularly in Texas, is if there's a fat kid, they tell them you should play football. I feel like that might have changed because they ain't really that many. I mean, it's big. But there were a couple of kids on my high school. school team that like couldn't play football but like we just thought through our minds like you know what fat kids do they play football you got to give it a try yeah i feel like that has changed because like nobody's fat in the NFL anymore like everybody big but nobody's fat no more okay so there i have two hypotheses that i will throw out here i am not saying any of them are correct i'm not saying any of them

or what i think i'm throwing them out here so that we can engage in the scientific method and perhaps decide what we got here. One of them is because we are pushing kids into high level sports so early in their lives that they don't even really get no chance to be fat. Right? Like you already

like conditioning them up and getting them to where they need to be, right? So that's number one because I ain't going to lie. I see a lot of fat kids out here in these streets, brother. Like they hear. They hear even in this walking-ass city, man. It's still it's a lot of double-stuffed kids.

out here in these streets. And what we may have, number two, where you're saying that, you know, they're not making the kids play football like that. Maybe it's some combination of, y'all don't be making kids do nothing anymore that they don't feel like doing, which ties into what may be the next level of the hypothesis

is what if, I mean, it stands to reason if we have a lazier set of kids that we've ever had before. And I don't know if that's true, but if that were the case, right, that would then mean we also got the laziest fat kids we've ever had. Fair, but I also think that there was, at least for the,

that's one of the things about football that was kind of cool and different because it was the place where a kid like that could feel like they had some value. You know, it's like, there's no, nobody's like, there's no other sport that were like, hey, you're perfect for this. It's like being the tall guy. They're like, hey, you're perfect for this. I think the demands of the game have changed, even at the lower. level where they pass more than they did back in day, but not as much as they do at the higher

levels, it's still just such a fast-paced spread-out game. I guess it's, because they ain't no fat offensive linemen no more. Like that is, that part is not a guard, not anywhere. Dang, man. So we got to find something for them to do, baby. Like, you can't just, you can't just, like, all these kinds of things, man, you just can't be leaving these people out here with nothing to do with no identity. You know what I'm saying?

Right. I know you weren't making this accusation, but for anybody who does feel this way, there, I do have one defense for the lazy kid, I don't think the lazy kid is always the fat kid. That's what I'm saying. It's a lot of lazy kids. And there's also a lot of fat kids. Or maybe not a lot, but there are fat kids.

And I think that in their same thing. Yeah, they are the same thing. And in the defense, and I actually learned this when I retired, in the defense of those kids, genetics is strong, boy. They are strong. Because I stopped playing

and stopped working out. shit's still cool it's just because I was born that way I've learned I'm not the person that's allowed to offer any measure of judgment for people who struggle with weight in that direction because I can't I can't relate

I gained like fettit pounds in a very short period of time and the people who knew me could kind of see it the people who didn't couldn't believe it they were like what do you mean what the what the hell did you look like before right like that's what I just felt like that I felt like

that I wanted to defend them because I think for most of my life because I was such an intense athlete, I was like, yeah, my body's like this because I work so hard. Yet I stopped working hard. It was like, my shoe was fine. And so now I looked at these other people like, yeah, they got full-time jobs. They probably working pretty hard and eat right. But you can't really beat them jeans, man.

Yeah. But I am going to say this, man, if all you got and all you need in this world is in the phone, then you ain't necessarily going to be, if you ain't out here running around, you know what I'm saying? just out there with the kids. Hey, man. Well, I'm going to go out there and get hit all the time. That seems preposterous. Speaking of preposterous, I think we are underestimating or don't talk nearly enough

about the idea that even though they got the brakes beat off them the last time, the Chiefs have gone to the Super Bowl three years in a row and are about to like suit up to maybe go for the fourth. First game, Friday night in Brazil. Don't get captured, as R.T.J. would say. Don't get kidnapped. As I'm sure they told them when they first got down. down there to Brazil.

They are playing against the charges. You know, I'm very good friends. I was about to say very good friends with my buddy Nick, but that is redundant. But I have been listening and watching online to a lot of Nick's defenses of the chiefs, which all are always plausible because Nick is captain, argument, and instructor. But at the same time, I do get the feeling that people are kind of like sleeping on what's going on here. Like, I feel like their record won't be as good as last year, but they will be better than they were last year. Yeah, I mean, I think that that's boring to talk about, but by and large, I think most people agree.

Like, I don't think that anybody, if you ask them, think that the chiefs are not going to be good. There's some people who are arguing, like, the Broncos have a chance of taking a division from them. Like, of course, they got a chance. They're good enough. But what? I mean, who put money on it? Like, who really, really is like, I got the Broncos. I think there's some people who believe it's possible.

Not many people who I think are going to. pick them. And then on top of it, like, we've seen them. We have synced it before. And the real scary part is the way that they kind of perfected a different way to win last year in those tight, close games is something that we have faith in them to do. I don't think it's going to be, I don't think they're going to have the same type of offense where it's just like seven-man protections anytime they want to go deep. If this J.R. Simmons guys is good as Lewis Riddick and other people who I know know what they're talking about tell me he is at tackle. And they got multiple dudes who run sub four three, sub, submarine, beneath,

under 4.3 seconds, man. More than one of them on the same roster. Like, I get it. Rashid Rice, get him back eventually after suspension and he's going to be able to move the chains and offer something different. I don't give a damn what you say. The boys can fly. That's scary.

Let me tell you something. I don't know if there's, and you tell me if I'm wrong here, but I feel like there's no position in the league where a team, if you're going into, we'll call it, the top 15 or 20 in the draft, need a tackle, see a tackle, take a tackle, we're good for 10 years. Right? Like from day one, we are good in a, you see a tackle, need a tackle, tackle, take a tackle.

You do that right there. Dust him hands and keep it moving. And they got him at the end of the draft because of the injury concerns. I've been told by people who, who like watch college line play. Like, I watch college stuff when I get ready for the draft, but I don't watch college line play. I take your word for it. I'll watch some college line highlights, but I'm not about to break down a bunch of

line film. He looks like an athlete. I've been told that he's a great tackle. And this reminds me. a little bit of the, we overplay, I think, the Super Bowl window on the rookie quarterback contract. Like, I think we overplay that as a thing. Like, obviously, it's a thing. But I think you can obviously build a team without that when you pay your quarterback.

But I think the real story is superstar talent on a rookie contract at important positions. So, like, if they found a tackle who's a Pro Bowl level tackle, like, Lou Ridd told me he saw him as all pro level. If you got that for four years, five years, price control, and you got that quarterback, that's almost like having a quarterback. I mean, it's just as good as having like a starting level quarterback, not a superstar. It's different. You have a superstar quarterback.

But like a starting level quarterback on a rookie deal is, to me, almost as valuable because you're going to spend that money building up around that quarterback. If you can spend that money on your quarterback because he's a future Hall of Famer and maybe the best we've ever seen and on weapons around him and improving that defense, I think that is just as much the benefit as anything else. Well, I also think that hitting all winners in rounds two through four is probably underrated.

Like I think about the Legion of Boom, Seahawks, and look at what they did in those rounds, It's basically in like the same run of a couple of years, right? Richard Sherman, Camp Chancellor, Bobby Wagner. There's another one I'm not thinking of off the top of my head. But like they got those guys at the cheap places. And of course, what happens is they all come up for deals at the same time. Right?

Like that's the trick bag of it. But if you can get those dudes, like the thing with the Eagles is the Eagles have zillions of good players on those early deals. Like we're talking about those defensive tackles. They got Jordan Davis. Jalen Carter and and Coop. Like, what do you do?

They back out of that man playing safety. They moved him. They moved him. He's nickel and safety now. It happened eventually. It was coming. Shout out Rodney Moss holding it down. You talk about our man, Coop. Yeah, I man, Coop. Yeah, but you know what, man, they so loaded. Yeah. They're like, okay.

But they're going to play against the charges, man. And how long are we going to keep letting Justin Herbert get away with this. Gosh, he lost his tackle, too. Speaking of important, the tackle with Sean Slater is out, which, like, that changes everything particularly. I mean, they have,

their other tackles really good, too, Joe Alt. But, I mean, it's still, it's not the same, and especially when you're building this team around the Harbaugh philosophies. This is not the same. But, yeah, I mean, there's, yeah, you know, run out of excuses. It's so funny how our, our priors and our opinions,

we, like, stick to them, because obviously the reaction to Justin Herbert would be a lot different if people had different opinions of him headed in. Like I think the things that he does are pretty impressive and great. And I can get behind it. I understand why people are attracted to him as a talent. But if he was like a pick that was later in the draft

that we didn't respect and we weren't enamored with some of the big play stuff, like there'd be some real serious criticism. And I think it's coming. I think it's coming. Well, I would make this point. He was drafted a year ahead of Trevor Lawrence. And the heat has arrived for Trevor Lawrence.

Like this is the year on Lawrence where we're asking these questions. It was Herbert who blew the 27-0-0 lead in the playoffs to Trevor Lawrence's team, not vice versa. Yet we are still holding out maybe just maybe. And now Herbert is in one of the biggest no-excuse is. situations a quarterback can have, which is your coach is Jim Harbaugh, right? Like, that's, that's the guy we trust on these things as much as anybody else there is. And he can't get it done this year. I mean, it's not like they're going to trade them or anything like that.

Like, it's not like they can go find a better one. But the heat is there. I think this is a case where the Chargers not having no home city and only have them but so many fans really comes in handy. Yeah, it's pretty nice. It's pretty nice when people only care. when you make the playoffs. And then there's not a whole ground swell of people being pissed off

when you blow a big lead. Yeah. It's one of those things where Justin Herbert has the uncoachable stuff, man. And that's always going to be incredibly enticing. And he's put it together enough times. Like that's, it reminds me a little bit of like Kyler Murray in that, whereas Kyler Murray has some more obvious, like the size issue where people are quicker to be out on them and a personality that I think,

is a little easier for people to be out on. But it's been similar in that there are stretches where I'm like, damn, he one of them ones. And then there's stretches where it's like, nah. And then he does things that are like, nobody else can do this. And I think Justin Herbert fits in the same category where it's like some of those throws and athleticism.

You're like, yeah, it's worth sticking around. And then he puts it together for a long enough stretch that you can imagine that he could do it for an extended period of time. Yeah, I wouldn't give up on them either. Yeah, we all really talk about how, cold, Kyle Murray is, just in terms of like

what it is that he is capable of doing. It looks like Darren Roe running when he's running because he's like, legs be going in that circle. You know what I'm saying?

Like you see that. But I'm trying to think of a quarterback his size where when we talk about the criticisms of him, we don't bring them back to his size. Like,

like he overcomes all of the things that he should not be able to overcome on a size level. Right? It's just the other things. Yeah, that's one of my friends, one of his go-toes was like, I want you to appreciate the distance I traveled. And we were talking about like school and other things like that. Like, yeah, I got to be, but I didn't go to one class and I just studied the night before.

Let's appreciate what I overcame. And I feel like Murray, we could have the same conversation where it's like, We're like, man, but you ain't, but you ain't put it all together for a stretch. You're not on a level with Mahomes, Allen, and them. You're not up there. But guys. Do you have any clue what I had to do to get here? I don't think you do.

Like, that's like, for the way you're talking to me right now. You understand what I'm saying? I don't think you realized it. Speaking of the distance travel, as you and I have talked about for a long time, and I hate that I feel like I have to give this preface every time. because otherwise somebody always won't come say something to you about it, you know. But y'all were premature adopters of Josh Allen. We, while later than you guys, I believe, showed up right on time and we are now all here together.

We get Buffalo and Baltimore Sunday night to open the season. I wish that they would give the MVP out before the game so that Lamar Jackson could have his Ikeem-Ele-Wah moment. Hey, hey, man, that's my MVP. The difference is when that happened with Elijah Watt and David Robinson, it really was David Robinson's MVP. And in this case, there's just no way around it, man. And people get, I think I'm mad when I said it to someone because they didn't know the context. But the truth is, the voters just felt like giving Josh Allen an MVP.

They thought it would be a nice thing to do. That's the only way that you could rationalize him being second team all pro and being the MVP and the voters being the same. It's the only way that you could do that. The thing is, that boy is cold, cold, cold, cold. Like, let us, let us, like, it's not the heat, it's not an MVP caliber type of talent, right? Yeah. But if this were a Michael, and I'm not saying everybody got to be Michael Jordan, but can you imagine if Lamar Jackson was Michael Jordan?

He put up 500 yards rushing and 300 yards passing in these games. He put up numbers like they was playing against Army. You know what I'm like? It would be, like, this is, this is going to be such an interesting game. But before, um, I came here to record. I was seeing something, I think it's on one of the ESPN shows. And it was a discussion about like, this is the year for Baltimore to put it all together, kind of no excuses. And I'm like, how does this not apply to Buffalo?

Like, I think it's a fair argument to make about each of those teams, which is what I think makes this more interesting. It's not, with those two teams, it's not a matter of you got to get over each other. It don't matter about each other no more. Y'all supposed to go to the Super Bowl after we just got through talking about the chiefs. Like, these are the cats that feel like the dudes at the same time as Jordan. Yeah. And you could argue that their best opportunity has passed for both teams already, given that the chiefs might be back on the come up

and address their issues with their offensive deficiencies. But I think so the reason why I think that people make the argument about the Ravens is like, I think it's clear that the Ravens, that the Ravens overall roster is better. But they don't have the same benefit that the bills have in a division that they got at least four, four dubs right there that we're going to count up maybe six. And that's tough. But I think I obviously do those shows.

And so that question has been presented to me and been invited for me to make that take about the Ravens. I can't do it because it's every damn year, man. Like I feel like it's been like that for five years. But as soon as Lamar Jackson was playing MVP level football, and I think they might have been 14 and 2. That might have been before. They were 17 games, maybe. But they were just, they just been just great, simply great,

since Lamar fully took over. So I have a hard time. And I think we did it so many times. We have a short memory. We've done it so many times with the Ravens that I feel stupid even saying it, where they had the first round by. It's like, they best chance. They better not blow it.

Guess what? they back at that again. Guess what? They back at again. This organization that's really well run, always has a good roster and has a quarterback in its prime. I feel like an idiot saying about the Ravens or the Bills

that this is your last best chance, because it ain't, as long as those guys are there, it ain't. And the Ravens blew it. I mean, I don't want to take credit away from the team that won and act like they did not win the game. But the Ravens gave that game away. Like I think in watching it, it was a, the moments have overwhelmed

Lamar up until this point. I think that's a fair point to make. And you could see it as soon as the mistakes would start early, come to the sidelines, slamming that helmet. It's like, oh boy, like I went to the U.S. Open the other day. And tennis is so interesting to watch because you can just watch people crack. You know what I mean? Like there's nowhere to hide. You're out there all by yourself. And you can tell sometimes very early, oh, man, he ain't going to win. Like he has already begun to come unglued. This is going to happen. Lamar felt like it. This was the first time it didn't feel like he was coming unglued. And he's made all the throws late that you need to make.

Now, Mark Andrews, he was in pieces for reasons that I don't quite understand by the time that game was over. But to me, even without the win, that felt like a big hurdle. Like Josh Allen had his game that you and I will talk about forever in 2019, where he came unglued and he threw that ball down the field of that fullback, a.k.a. square by it, right? And then he has some panic in him still, right? but he has largely gotten rid of that.

And I think that may be what it comes down to for both sides on them, is which one of them cats, if they come up against each other, which is entirely possible in the same round, maybe not the same stadium, it's just a matter whether you can stay glued because talent, talent ain't going to be the issue with either of them. Execution, like Lamar has become such a good passer

that I can't believe that people are still trying to hold out on the idea that somehow he is lacking as a passer. No, no, no, no, no, man. He's that guy. I mean, that can't be real people saying that. I don't think anybody actually means that if they've watched the last few seasons. But the thing about, like, I have a hard time, really hesitant. And I know you're not saying this specifically,

but like the implication is like there's something about the pressure of those moments that changes these players. And like, I get how different it feels you lead up to it. But once you get out there, like, you're just kind of playing. So it's hard to attribute it to anything else for Lamar because it's just weird. and there's enough games now where it hasn't worked out. But I think there's one thing to point to is he bounced back because you could say he was unglued in the first half.

He bounced back. I think Josh Allen is different because he's had so many of these games in the playoffs where we're like, hey, yeah, he played well enough to win. Lamar Jackson has, I mean, undoubtedly had fewer of those. But that's where, like, I'm not moved by that argument because generally I don't, like, believe that there's some big difference in the same way that in basketball, there's some big difference, but I guess there is.

I see, to me, I just think, no matter what it is, we're talking about it is, some people rattle and some people don't, right? So if we take it down from the level of excellence, it is very clear that San Bernardo Routes. And we saw that happen two games in a row. That team with 14 and 3 last year, and you came away from it like, yeah, I can't wait with that guy. Right?

Like some dudes, those moments, they get, I think tennis for me is the fun example to use because since it's an individual sport, it happens in golf, we're more forgiving of when people have these moments and they come unglued. It happens. Everybody is capable of that thing happening. And for some people, they get out there and no matter what the thing is, they shake it off and they're all good. Like we've all done television with people before who get out there and it gets them. And they, for whatever reason, they can't get themselves. out of it. And so the problem with the playoffs is even if you ultimately shake it off, all the minutes is precious. You know what I mean? And like, you were only caught up for eight minutes a game

action. Well, unfortunately, brother, that might have been too long. I guess that second half look like the Lamar that we see in the regular season. It didn't look like. And that's, that is not much. It's the smallest of small sample sizes.

But if we're talking about this as if, and I am completely believe that there are some things that we can't explain and we don't understand as much as I think the statistics try to explain and understand everything. So if I'm to accept

that this is a psychological block in some way, then I think that second half would feel good because it felt like he did the most difficult thing. It's not only to play well in that moment, is to play shitty in that moment and then play well in that moment.

Like I thought it was to me, even watching it, I was like, oh, this is the most encouraging thing that can happen outside of a win. Right? Like, okay, this happened. All right, we're going to have to shape this off. Like, when you reach a place no matter what this is to tell yourself that you were bigger than the last mistake that you made and that that does not matter. And I felt like in that game, he didn't play well in the first half,

but I didn't feel like he came apart. I didn't feel like the loss of composure had taken place as it had in those other games. And so to me, like, that to me was what was huge. But I also, I know that if you are going to be a two-time MVP, because we got this bad thing now because we have access to so much data and so many statistics, it's what happened that year that we gave an MVP to MB instead of Yolkich in the NBA. And it became a matter of, well, if he's a three-time MVP, then that means he's in the same rarefied air as these people.

Therefore, he does not belong in, we don't think he belongs in this air. therefore we can't give him the third MVP, and that's not how the logic works, right? Like Tim Lentuck and Johan Santana have won two Cy Young Awards. They're not going to go to the Hall of Fame, right? Like, it happens like that sometimes. Like, this could perhaps be some kind of statistical anomaly. Okay, not the biggest deal in the world, right? Lamar Jackson is a two-plus MVP type.

He will then be evaluated against all the other people who have two-plus MVP's. He always will. And I think eventually they'll get it done. It's just funny because in the meantime, these boys can't even beat the chiefs. All the boys that we talk about. Only Joe Burrow over there being like, well, you know, that one time. And it's funny. I, I rewatched that game a couple seasons ago and Joe Burrow tried to give it away. It's just, it's just, and so like we did, we spent a lot of time with Josh on Lamar Jackson. And like Josh Allen obviously has these incredible games and could have beaten it in a similar way that the Ravens could have beaten the bills if the tight end caught the ball. The chiefs or the bills could have beaten the chiefs if they're tight and caught the ball.

So like we don't have those same postseason questions about Josh Allen because he's risen to those moments in a way that is we can obviously with eyes say like, all right, well, any reason why it doesn't happen is not because of him. I would say this about the Joe Burrow game that anyone who's making the argument that he's in the neighborhood with these other guys is those games are decided by such slim margins and that man hit a linebacker in the chest and the most pivotal drive of the game. Like I get that the linebacker dropped the ball and what he did after that was great and then what he did in the Super Bowl was awesome. But to that point, we decide such big like ranking. and opinion decisions on such random things because again, and Charlie got some heat last week for doing on my show. He made a joke,

but it's kind of true. It's like how the quarterback rankings are really just tight-in rankings because Kelsey had a great playoffs that made Mahomes look good. And Mark Andrews dropped that pass and the bills tied in, which one was it? I think it was. It was a Kincaid.

It dropped that pass. It's like if Andrews catches that pass, Lamar might be a Super Bowl champion and we're the top. If Kincaid, same thing, whatever, if Kelsey doesn't work out. But it's just funny because we use that thing for Burrow as a deciding factor all the time. He's like, but he beat him. He got to a Super Bowl. You can go back through and see some of the mistakes that could have kept him out of.

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And living here has been awful because you don't have just one bad team, but you also have two bad teams that are occupying your television space. However, I feel like I don't know what the Jets are going to be this year, right? Do they switch out Aaron Roders for Justin Fields and they will play against the Steelers, put a pin in that, we'll talk about it. But I have to say, I am very curious to watch these New York Giants play. If for no other reason, then they're going to be getting after the quarter back. I don't know if they're going to be able to score no points.

but bad you do not want to get third and long against those boys that is true i mean there's going to be a lot of first down runs against them i think you're going to try to get something short passes like you're not you don't want to be in third eight third nine i think you just automatically like auto punt because they all look ridiculously talented it's stupid and you better counter your quarterback to score some points early so that you can maintain a two-way go you imagine you imagine Being down 14 at the half, you come against them. You come on out and like, ah. That Abdul Carter looked like he had a real-a-dilla.

Pinned them ears back. That's what that's what they say. I don't even know what that is reference to, but you go ahead and pin them back. Just go ahead and pin them things back because they are coming. But yeah, I hope it works out for them, no, because that offense, I think, has obviously much bigger question marks. They got neighbors

who could be a problem of, or not could be, who is a problem. Well, he could be another problem if they'll throw the damn ball. Like, I've seen, I've seen this particular model of wide receiver before. I know how that goes when you waste them. Yeah, they're going to throw him the ball. Like, what else they're going to do

with the football? Right? It's not, uh, there's not an embarrassment of options for that team and the coaches with their back against the wall. I, I, I don't know. I'm not standing for any coaches or GMs,

but I generally, like, feel like what the Giants have done to a lot of their, like, high-profile choices, like the draft pick, the quarterback draft picks and some of their other draft picks, honestly. And their coach and general manager put them in positions where they can't win. Like, this is, I think Maris said in the offseason that he's going to be keeping a close eye. Like, they asked if his coach was on a hot seat, the owner of the team. He's like, I'm being keeping a close eye. Like, don't. You are creating an extra distraction and problem for your team that doesn't have

to be there. So I don't know. I'm rooting. Second generation. Second generation. It's that next generation owner. They, they, they, that's the kind of, that's the got to, got to make it seem like you doing something, right? Like, for people who don't know New York, the Maras and the Tish that own these teams, man, they real classy. Like, they, they, they super, that Tish money all over this city. Everywhere you go, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they got something somewhere, right? And so that second generation, that level of second generation money, I can tell

you that young man, well, he ain't young, but I can tell right now, he ain't never really been good at nothing. They get a football team to the kid that can't do nothing because they, how could it possibly fail? They just sold 10% of that team for a billion dollars. Ooh, did you see who they sold it to? Uh-uh. Uh, the widow of one of them Coke brothers. Oh, she. Yeah. It's happening. Who else got that money? Yeah, but here's the thing. That means the Giants who are worth $10 billion.

And if the Giants were $10 billion, Jerry Jones down there being like, yeah, tell me how I don't know what I'm doing. Okay. But no, they're going to be getting at it. They play against Washington, who I think is built for a regression. And what I think is interesting about Washington is that there is typically a Cliff Kingsbury regression during a season. And that did not happen this year. And so I am very curious what happens. Not that everybody's got a year of film on him, year of film on a quarter.

back what they going to do. Yeah. I mean, I get all the signs of fourth down situation and the close games. And obviously the talent on this team was not what, it's not commensurate with a conference final appearance. And catching the best team in the NFL when they were simply depleted by injuries that come from all their hard work, finally working against them on a John Henry type of situation. But you go ahead and finish what you was talking about.

Yeah. Yeah, they're yours. They're yours because they're yours. Yeah, that all is true. However, some people are regression proof and there's a possibility, and they've made additions to his team to make the team better. I don't know how much better the team actually has gotten from these additions, but the question is, is Jaden Daniels better,

which is reasonable to assume? And of course, he could take a step back as some quarterbacks do in their second year, but he could also repeat or he could also perform even better than he did last year. And those one-score games that could go the other way this year, they won't be one-score game. And those fourth-down conversions that you might need to convert, that you're not going to convert at 100% rate next year, you may not even see that fourth-down if you're dealing with a different level quarterback.

And also, like, it's possible that the fourth down, like some teams they say red zone is an area where like it kind of goes up. up and down and fluctuates is not necessarily a determining factor of how good your team is. There's some teams that are just good at the Red So like the numbers over the history, Cam Newton and the Red Zone pretty damn good. There's some players who can break the regression. And I think it's possible that Jane Danes is that guy. Now, I brought up the Jets and the Steelers.

The Steelers have some 2011 or 12 Philadelphia Eagles. It feels like a dream team elements to them. right like making the trade to get jailer ramsey for example sort of thing that they typically don't do uh they made the move to get dj mccalf like they did a lot of things to get a lot cracking but they also went and got a very old man to play quarterback and i don't know what to make of this team because i'm not sure what exactly erin rogers has left that's that's that's that's the question i think that you can make the argument that a year removed from the Achilles is even better, which not the argument.

Like, that's a true thing that most people who recover from that surgery would say, but he also is a year older. And this offense looks nothing like the offenses that he's had success in. And so it may not quite pan out the way that they wanted to. And the expectations for this team are not as high as they were for that Eagle's Dream team. And expectations for Aaron Rogers aren't that high. But the problem is the patience. It feels like it's run out, at least for the fans.

Probably not for the ownership, but around that team, the expectations are higher than I think they should be. Because they're like, we need a playoff win. We can't, I don't care if we make it to the playoffs. I don't care if we're over 500. We need a playoff win. And so as whatever version of Aaron Rodge you think you're going to get, it's not going to be the top-tier version of Aaron Rogers. And to get a playoff win in the AFC, especially if you don't win the division,

which I don't think we think they're going to beat the Ravens for, you're going to have to beat the Ravens. You're going to have to beat the Josh Allen. You go ahead to beat the Patrick Mahomes. Like, that is where it's like they might make the playoffs. They might have a great year. They might not. But if they do, the bar is still going to have to be to get past one of these guys,

Joe Burrow. You got to get past one of those guys. I think the fans are perfectly reasonable to be like, hey, we ain't won a playoff game with you since the president. Got to be black for us to win games, brother. Is that what it is? Because that ain't never going to happen again. You know what I'm saying?

Like, is that what we got to do? Is that what we got to do? Oh, okay. But I don't know exactly how noisy they're going to get. I think they're going to be the second best team in that division because I think Cincinnati's just going to give up a zillion point. I just don't see any way around them giving up zillions and zillions of points. And then the Browns are beginning of the quarterback carousel that will spin all year long.

Joe Flacco might be out of the game with what they call it, osteoporosis, one of them other old people, you know, ailments. And the quarterback carousel, I guess this goes without saying, but it's not because there normally isn't a carousel if it's filled with like really. promising quarterbacks. I was going to say that the carousel is not stopped with like the type of guys. But yeah, that tends to be the case. There wouldn't be a carousel if there was a guy over there that was like, oh yeah, that's him. Now, I want to ask you this because I've seen you talk about this on your podcast. You have a level of optimism about the Indianapolis Colts that implies that Daniel Jones is not their quarterback. I have a level of optimist. I mean, I think it's more about how difficult things were for him in New York.

I don't think that Daniel Jones is top of the league quarterback. I don't think he's ever been in a situation as good as he's in right now. And I don't believe that that division is like it's the, the Texans defense. The only thing I trust in that division right now. Not even the quarterback. Oh, I trust the quarterback. I don't trust the offensive line. And that like the quarterback had a rough year last year and people arguing that he

progressed. The regression was largely tied to the fact that they couldn't keep them off of them, man. It couldn't keep them off of them. I just can't imagine my job being, all right, you go backwards. Everybody else is coming forwards and, you know, figure some shit out right fast. Like, like, imagine somebody had you like the pig game off the table at the breakfast place. Yeah. And you got to do that with people running at you. Not just people. not just people it's these 63

280 hyperathletes that we talked about at the top of the show it's not just people they're trying to hurt you and if they hit you you better not drop the peg guy right like that

I think that we've talked about this part before that's the most underrated thing is I got to go through all this these cats be hitting me and I can't drop what's in my hand I mean it's

the idea that you can perform under that pressure and still make accurate throws by getting hitting the chin while getting hit in the chin is a trait that I don't think we look for in quarterbacks, but it's something that's hugely valuable because we're going to be able to pick them up all the time. Hey man, where are you on this Bo-Nick situation? Because I'm going to need a little bit more person. Yeah. I mean, isn't that how everyone feels? I mean, there's a lot of belief. It takes nothing for people to believe in a quarterback boy. I feel like he

is in the Mac Jones class until proven otherwise. I mean, I think we all recognize that the offensive line is really good. The coach is really good. That defense is insane. And what they asked of him is, was not what you ask of or he didn't show

the ability to be a top of the league quarterback. But it's also partially what they asked up. I think he did well in fourth quarters, which you could argue means a lot more. And we should take that in consideration and not just look at like the QBR and all of his raw stats. But I think he got to show you, for sure, I have to show you some more. I would,

I guess maybe Sean Payton is fully bought in. But I would imagine honest observer is like, yeah, that was an incredible start. We're going to need to take some steps, though, if we want to go where we want to go. Man, I said on Mina's podcast, that I wasn't a Bowdo Knicks believer. And boy, Denver, they all in, boy, they are.

They are. I guess they thirsty, man. I love Denver. That's right. That's you. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I love Denver. It's great.

Yeah, there's something about the first city you play in. It's a special experience. It's a good experience, man. Fresh out of college. Yeah. I understand. Mountain air. Mountain air.

Yeah. Denver's a underrated city because it's the biggest city. I don't know, like, the mile radius, but, like, it's the biggest city in a real big radius. And so all the states around there and all the cities around there, like, they're best thing brightest, they go to Denver. Like, if they're not going to go to L.A., they're going to go to Denver or Phoenix. So, Denver's a strong, strong town. But anyway, I say all that. I say all that to say that I forgot.

Bo Nix, yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh, I think that reasonable fans, like it's, you said they're yours. There's some things that you can't see clearly about your team because you're so close to them. Yeah, but I don't be attacking people about what they say something about Jerry golf. You understand, I dig on what I'm saying? Like, I don't be, I don't be doing that, but they thirstier. They much, they much more, I don't know how they thirstyer than the day one Lions fan like myself.

but they thirsty for the glory days of Jake Plumber. You know what I'm saying? Because you play with Jake. You play with Jake and Jay, right? Yep, both. I can't think of playing for two more different human beings than going from playing with Jake Plumber to play with Jay Cutler. I mean, it was Jake Cutler as a rookie, so it was like you, I don't know,

you don't get to fully know somebody, not completely comfortable. Well, I guess Jay Cutler probably showed up, feeling comfortable about everything. but it's a little different experience. Like Jake Plummer was, I think, a little bit more of himself. So I didn't get to know. I was surprised by the person that Jay Cutler came. So that's how, as you can tell, I ain't known that well. We just was teammates.

On another day, I will tell you, well, I think I've already told you. Maybe I'll tell the audience one day how Jay Cutler once inadvertently helped me make millions of dollars. Oh, thank you. Quite a teeth. Quite a cheese. They let you eat. Matt Ryan is that guy for me. It wasn't inadvertent though.

It was intentional. Matt Ryan did it for you, boy, huh? Appreciate you not being a bum. Appreciate you. You said he threw that touchdown that first plate. And he was like, oh. We might got us something here, man.

Yeah, let me tell you, the beauty of that pass was you had a long time to enjoy it and appreciate it, boy, because that was a classic Matt Ryan pass, eh, man. Long as to get there, baby. You ain't no hurry. Ain't no hurry.

Just watch you go. I think it was to Jank, too. And he wasn't a burner, but he took that bang eight to the crib. Bang eight, Michael Lurvey, got people knowing about that bang eight. Yeah, reminded me of that bang eight. Them boys ain't run no plays. It reminds me, man. They ain't run no plays.

Well, how come every single play look the same? It's ridiculous. Bang eight. Yeah. Bang eight. But that is Dominique Fosworth. Check him out. on the Dominique Fosworth Show available

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