The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Foxworth Friday: Travis Hunter's potential, Jalen Hurts growth, Micah Parsons vs. Jerry Jones

Episode Date: August 1, 2025

Bomani Jones is joined by Domonique Foxworth for another edition of Foxworth Friday. On today’s episode, the guys start off by chatting about Travis Hunter's desire to play both ways and if he will be able to pull it off. Later, they discuss if Jalen hurts still has more to prove after winning the Super Bowl, the bizarre contract negotiations between Jerry Jones and Micah Parsons, if this is the year where things go wrong for Mike Tomlin & the Pittsburgh Steelers and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Bobani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is Fosworth Friday, Dominique Fossworth.

What's going on, man? Not much, man. We're getting closer and close to the football season when everybody's life gets a little easier. Yo, everybody's life gets easier. And what amazes me, there's nothing quite like to be. people on Twitter who like, yo, football's back. And I'm like, baby, it's the preseason kind. And they, they still out there.

They stay still here for that near beer football. I mean, I was about to say that nobody actually like watches past the first few minutes. But I'm pretty sure last time I checked, like the preseason be out here doing numbers. It's insanity. Now, to be fair, the competition is weak, right? But at the same time, you put any football on television and people are lapping it up. It doesn't matter what kind of football it is. People watch the Pro Bowl, right?

Like, in fact, the reason they had to change the Pro Bowl to flag football, it really wasn't because people didn't watch it. It's because they was watching it and people was getting embarrassed. Yeah, we was watering down the product. When you walk around, like every time you watch football, you leave, happy. We can't have you watching football leaving and disappointed. No, every time somebody would be like, yo man, they need to just get rid of the

football and they're like, brother, let me, let me hand you this spreadsheet. Oh, yeah. We need to get rid of the Pro Bowl. It's like, sir, the Pro Bowl is doing season finale numbers, my friend. You know what the network's like? They like them numbers. So we're going to keep

something on here. I don't know. Y'all can play. Y'all can not play. I don't know. We play dodgeball. We're going to do something. I feel like the thing, so one thing I think that is often forgotten about preseason football is the NFL season is 20 weeks

counting preseason and regular season. It has been that way for a very long time. And when I say it's been that way for a very long time, when it was a 16 game season, there were four preseason games. But when it was a 14 game season, there were six preseason games. Six.

I can't imagine, man. I mean, I guess football requires some acclimation. So, like, that's kind of why we, well, they don't even do it in college anymore where they have the cupcakes at the front of schedule. They're kicking that season off with something serious. And your teammates your team yet? Like, we're real at this point. Man, those August football games are so bad. And pretty soon they go hard to start playing the motherfuckers at 7 o'clock in the morning, man.

It's 100 degrees outside. Yeah, I had that conversation when we're talking about Travis Hunter playing both ways. And Graney was making the argument that he did it at elevation. I was like, eh, I get you. He was like, he did an elevation. So it's going to be easier down at sea level. I was like, you know what happens at sea level? Humidity.

You know what happens in Florida? Heat? Like, I'd rather have a hard time getting oxygen than be down there trying to do 150 snaps in 100 degree weather. Yo, I do think this, though, about Travis Hunter. When Travis Hunter's time on this earth is up, it's going to be like secretariat where he's going to die and they're going to cut him open and they're going to find out his heart was like the size of a watermelon.

Right? Like, we are just going to find out that he had something inside him that is completely different. He also appears to have one of these young people things. I mean, you know, it probably could be diagnosed. That boy don't never be still. Anytime you see a clip of Travis Hunter, he is always moving. That would drive me insane. I don't say it to say-

Yeah, I don't say it to suggest that he can do it, just saying like it actually ain't easier. And you're right, there are some people that I think just are different. And we had this conversation about like me trying to copy what Champ did when I first got there. It took me three days to realize. I can't. No, I just can't. Like, you're right.

I think that's true about Travis Hunter, but I'm just saying it ain't going to be easier than it was in college. That's just the crazy part to me. No, but I am, I am intrigued. You are far more optimistic about the idea of him playing on both sides than I am. Now, I think when I've seen you talk about it, you made the point that you think like 80, 80, right? Like not playing every snap of the game.

I still think it's positively insane that they're even going for this. But I think the part that people need to remember is, is if you look at how much Jacksonville gave up to trade up to take him, it only makes sense. It can't just be, we're going to see if he can do both. The plan must be that he could do both, right? Like this is the difference between him and show Hey, O'Tani is the only pitch every five days, right? And when you pitch, you don't have to play in the field. He's going to do all of this, apparently.

And like, I mean, no disrespect to baseball. players, but I assume that they would agree that, like, the tax on your body is a little different. And he's like, to your point, he's not playing both, he's not doing both things at a high level at the same time, but it's still just a different, asking for different things. There is, playing corner and receiver, it's going to be tearing up the same muscles and body parts for the course of an entire game. And so, like, I, I don't think it's not insane. I just also don't think that sometimes insane shit happens. To the point that you are making,

they might just do some sort of analysis of his blood and find out that he just was born with a lot more white blood cells or red blood cells than anybody else. I don't know. It certainly seems like what he's done so far suggest that if nothing else is possible. But you said the thing about compensation from one side. It only makes sense for the team.

There's the compensation question from the other side. You don't want to get in a habit. doing two jobs with a price of one. Like some people got mad at me about this when he was at Colorado where I'm like, y'all keep acting like y'all doing this boy a favor by letting him work two jobs by letting him work a double shift. I'm like, what are you talking about? This is insane.

Like in the way NFL salaries are set up, there's no way, at least on the rookie wage scale, for you to account for what we're talking about. Now, maybe he could wind up getting into that overage pool that they had. You know, based on all stuff he's doing. But that don't work because that is, the formula includes where you were drafted. Oh, yeah. I made more my rookie year from that overage pool than I did for my actual salaries. Because I was damn near a fourth round draft pick.

And so I was not expected to play more than half of the defensive snaps. It's different for him. I mean, I guess maybe he'll break the formula if he plays on both sides of the ball. Right. Here's my question. Does the formula even have accounting? No. No. It goes by percentages, percentage of snaps on your side of the ball.

Or even if you combined them, it's still going by percentage of snaps. It fucking around, it hurt them. That's right. This is, it's, it's, I think for me, and I just have eyeball scoutability, okay? He looks like an all-pro caliber. corner to me and like a very good receiver. Like I don't know, or maybe it's because I never really entertained the eye. I always thought him play a receiver was a bit more toward like gimmick territory.

Like, oh, let's throw him out here. So I don't think when he was at Colorado, I didn't give a lot of thought to him as a receiver. Then I looked up and they said he had 15 touchdown catches. And I was like, whoa, okay, this is something now, you know, in the big 12. But still, it was like, oh, okay, I guess that's what's going on here. But he out here working, he doubles. And thank he to one coming out on top. That's tough, man.

That is tough. It's, you pointed out the rookie wage situation. There's a cap limitation. There's also when you get to your contract, it's like we always base these contracts off of precedent at your position. And so since he has potentially an unprecedented position, like we see this time and time again where guys are abnormally impactful for the position that they play.

And then they're caught in this trick bag where they're trying to convince everyone else to treat me, treat me a tight end like a receiver. That's the way the, yeah, because that's the way this offense is using me and treating me. Or treat me like a defensive end, even though I'm a tackle, but I'm having this type of impact. So that aside, even a franchise tag is a steal for him. The point of the franchise tag is kind of to force both sides to make a deal because of the cap implications.

it makes it pretty hard. But then if you go into the actual open market, like make me the highest paid corner, make me the highest paid receiver? Yeah, sure. Even if I'm not great at both, if I'm average at one and good at the other, I deserve a lot more to anybody else playing this game

short of Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow. Everybody else, get behind me. And that's just not going to work as a negotiation tactic. No, it's not. By the way, speaking of Lamar's, I just thought about this because you mentioned their names, you know, we're doing our list over here, right? They got our top 25 athletes of the top 25 years, and sometimes we take out clips from those things and we put them on the internet.

But people don't understand that the clips are coming from a list, right? They just don't get that. And so in making my case for Lamar Jackson in the context of the 25 and 25 years, discuss the fact that he's a two-time MVP who would be a three-time MVP, except they felt like giving Josh Allen an MVP, which I think is incontrovertibly true. You can't make the argument that you thought that Lamar was first team. This is like that offensive player of the year reward that is always there just so somebody else can get some love, right? you can't make the guy first team all pro at quarterback and then not vote for him at MVP, right?

That is, that seems very solomonic, solom, you're splitting the baby, dog, right? Like that, that, like Solomon out here. Yeah, yeah, there we go, right? Like, that's what we do. You better call Saul, so he say you're going to cut the baby a half. And rather than somebody saying, no, no, no, don't cut the baby a half. People are like, who half of you, you cut I choose, right? Like they went with that part.

Brother, there is a fictional Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen rivalry that only exist on the internet and really exist in Buffalo. Because they think me and you still hate Josh Allen. And first of all, we never hated him in the first place. But I'm like, you clearly don't listen to anything that we say about Josh Allen. It ain't, I made it.

I think you, your last, you did the, the Hulk Hogan thing, which I thought you did a good job talking about that. And I think that all of this stuff is sports entertainment and some of it is more sports than entertainment. Obviously, the wrestler is more entertainment than sports. But I think some of the fan behavior and some of the analysis of sports is heavily entertainment. And I think that what you need in entertainment is you need a good guy and you need a bad guy. Yes.

And all of us in sports media gave them enough to make us the bad guy and they ain't going to let it go, which is fine. They ain't going to let it go. I'm still experiencing the, I was talking, yeah, the Jalen Hurts stuff. Oh, right. I still got that going on. Whereas I say only positive things about Jailerertz before and after the pretty privileged joke.

And now this man, this man making money. I can't even get it in a commercial. Jalen, give me a call, man. I would have resend this shit for the Sprite commercial for a couple of bucks. I forgot that they was saying that your woman wanting Jailant hurts more than you. I completely forgot that. So for those who don't remember what it happened, Dominique got on television and said something that he thought was,

that I thought was funny. Let me not say that you thought was funny because that sounds like passive progressive shame. It's fine. Obviously wasn't funny enough. No, but I can't remember exactly what he, he said something that didn't make no sense. Like I remember that very clearly being the issue. Whatever he said didn't add up.

And Dominique was like, look, he only getting away with this, this pretty privilege. People think he good looking, and therefore he could get away with saying this. And then it got aggregated. And they're like, oh, you know, you know, Foxworth girl must be all up on him. You know, he can't get no doubt. And I'm like, boy, you guys have a serious misunderstanding of the confidence level of Dominique Foxworth, number one. Like, it was so wild as I'm hearing this. And I hope that people feel like this about me when some stuff happens, where they

pop up and they're like, oh yeah, they don't really know this dude at all, right? And so they was coming at Dominique from every corner and you're obviously joking, you're laughing the whole nine, but you was the cat that everybody was mad at for that day because everybody need to find somebody that they go wind up being mad at. And they was mad at you about Jalen Hertz. And let me tell you something, man, Jalen Hertz going to be an interesting one for me because I still have not seen any reason for me to change my opinion of him. Right? Like, I still think that he is a good quarterback.

I still think that, well, it may be different this year because they had a lot of changes in personnel. But last year, their weakest position group was quarterback. Now, if you think that he is a top four or five quarterback in the league, that still fits because every position group they had was higher than top four, right? from offensive line, running back, wide receivers, defensive line, live backers, D.Bs. They was all all the way up there.

And if Jaylor Hertz was the fifth best quarterback in the league, which I think we all agree is the highest that you can reasonably put him, then that was still their weakest position group, right? But we've made it in this world such that the quarterback is the answer for everything, in spite of if we see it here. And, you know, people like that. him, right? He is a well-liked player. It's going to take more for me to change

where I come from on Jalen Hurst than it did for me to change where I came from on Josh Allen. Now, granted, I never thought he was terrible like I thought Josh Allen was terrible. But I'm not I don't think I can get there to top five, or at least I am not there yet. If he shows that he, like, a leap, not even a leap, but a jump in his play, I might be able to ride out with you, but they still don't

seem like they really want to throw the ball unless they got to. Yeah, and if any other situation, you could survive the, or not even survive, thrive the way they thrived without throwing the ball, of course you don't. Because you know what's high risk, high reward is throwing a deep pass. You know what's low risk and high reward running that thing for 55 yards. So they had a unique situation. And he played well in important moments. The conversation about Jalen that I think that I find more interesting rather than making these comparisons, it's just like how astonishing his career has been.

Amazing. Like the track record and the thing that you could, that I marvel at for him is how every situation, there are major setbacks that would be like, oh, you ain't nobody coming back from this. And somehow he comes back and jumps over it. That's why I kind of feel like the people, especially since Jalen doesn't seem to care that much,

the people who constantly want us to compare him, to Patrick Mahomes and the likes of them are doing him a disservice. It kind of feels like I ran a marathon and you like, but what about them ultras, though? I just ran damn near 25 miles. Can we like that to me is what's so impressive about, we can go through the whole history of his career, but he obviously, he kind of failed to some degree at Alabama, then went on and won the highest somewhere else. Well, hold on. This is where it's interesting, right? It's major setbacks while also being wildly successful.

Yeah. Okay. So freshman year at Alabama, he was the offensive player of the year. He was first team, all SEC. And if I'm not mistaken, he was a husband trophy finals, right? Like he was way up there. And then they were, the way, oh, see, remember, they got mad at me because I said every team, Jalen Hurts. has been on has ultimately been held back by his shortcomings as a passer, which by the way, when I said that was absolutely true. He gets to Oklahoma, and if I'm not mistaken, he was Heisman Trophy runner up, first team all big 12, third team All-American as I'm looking at it, not that good a passer. But again, everything I'm saying, yeah, but look at the wild success that we're talking about at the top level of it. His second year is an NFL starter. They made it to the Super Bowl

where he played a better game than Patrick Bowles. That's the crazy part, man. But then the next year it was like, bruh, I don't know about your meds. Like, it's, it's, we, let's say, we keep talking setbacks, but there's so many highs. Yeah.

If that's all you ever did, would be great. It just feels so, unfair as soon as he does these. And it's not even that their setbacks, they feel like falls that would be almost impossible to come back from. It's like on the highest stage at Alabama, they benched him and the other guy took his spot. It's hard to bounce back from that. And then you're a second round pick behind a guy who's a damn near wins the MVP. It's hard to come in there and take that spot. Then you go to Super Bowl play well and have a really like a bad season. The

following year in your second rip. It's hard to come back from that. He then comes back and balls out in a Super Bowl again and wins one and gets a Super Bowl MVP. It's that all that Jalen Hurts support is if you really cared about him, that's what we need to be focusing on. Stop pushing him out here to go fight these other bullies. Let's celebrate what he's done so far. Well, I will say, though, the one thing that I don't think was as hard as you pointed to was unseating Carson Wentz. I have two rash now.

Number one, for whatever reason, the people around him don't seem to like him that much. I don't know why. But number two, second round picks are intended to be starters. Somebody took him with the thought of, you know, maybe we can get this other cat out of here and do it for the cheap. But you're right. he has pulled it off. And now this year's going to be interesting because they don't have all the same guys, right?

Like, Mackay Beckton not playing left guard or whichever guard he played for you. They didn't dare put him on the same side as Lane, did they? He was on the right. Oh, God. I think he was on the right. The eclipse. They just had an eclipse on the right side of the line.

I can't imagine you play over there and it's laying on the other side of you. Like, no, let me get the light work. The 375 pound guy next to him. First row. I told you, I posted up with Lane at Super Bowl in Vegas, and I just couldn't believe it. Yeah, Lane, I remember, I think it was at the same part that we saw

when he was walking around with a diamond chain. Big old change. I was like, man, I didn't even know how to feel or think. It just, yeah, sometimes it's just different species of humans, and Lane fits in that category. Ryan says that Lane Johnson used to be a quarterback. Yeah, I've heard that. I don't understand what that means.

Like what are you talking about? Quarterback where and how? Like what, like, I'm hearing this and I'm, I'm suspended. He was a quarterback in Juko. Hold up, hold up. So we're not even talking about like seventh grade. No, no, no, not in high school. He played quarterback in tight end a Juko.

What fucking offense were they running? When Lane Johnson show up and say, I'm a quarterback. Yeah, I mean, yo, let me tell you this. I just thought of something that could, I mean, maybe it would mess the party up. Oh, I know. You know what I just thought about, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah.

Tush push with Lay Johnson as quarterback. I just thought about it. Would you, would you lose, like, would losing Lay Johnson as the tackle mess it up? Or would it make the touch push absolutely more unstoppable? Yeah, it would make it. I mean, that should be first downplay. We're getting four at least. We're getting four at least.

And that reminds me, like, the Trent Williams, when the 49th has had that man running in motion to kick out. Oh, me, you both were like, hey, that can't be, y'all can't allow this. Rules committee? Hey, I need to send y'all this video. That's like that in all the plays that Big Brain Ben used to run for Sewell. Yep, exactly. I think so my son is probably going to play tackle for the first time this year.

And they're like certain rules to keep like the big. bigger kids in certain leagues away. Like you can't be like 2.20 and running the ball because nobody can't tackle you. Yeah, we need to institute some of that around here, around the NFL. I've been thinking about this with Sue. And just before I say this, I need y'all to understand. I'm not the one being racist. How soon is Vince McMahon at Sewell's door the second he says he don't want to play football no more?

Like, I'm actually surprised that Vince McMahon wasn't in the parking lot at Oregon. every day trying to figure out how to get Sewell to be a rascal. I mean, the history of wrestling is not even with you being in your nationality. Like, if we can trick them, we're going to trick them. I'm just saying, him as a Polynesian, there's a long line of big old, athletic Polynesians. Do they even, like, other than the rock, what's the last time we had a really good Polynesian rassler?

I ain't been paying attention because the problem was all the portrayals of the Polynesia Rasslers were over the top. Racist. Like it always seemed like Jimmy Superfly Snooker was ready to drink out of somebody's head. Like, crack it open and boogoo-go-go-go-go.

They always had him out there. Like they was about to eat Captain Cook. Oh, I forgot Roman Reigns. He Apollonite. Oh, is he? Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know. I don't follow it like I used to, obviously.

I don't know. But I do remember that they just had the cheat code. They were like, look. you know how we can tell stories is if we show you something and we know exactly what you think it, we're going to reinforce it. We don't got to drive it home anymore than we already have.

That's correct. But I still think that Penae Sewell, like, they would, I don't know if he got a brother, but Vince would have made them a tag team. They'd have been out there doing some incredible moves. Like, oh my God, you know, the thing where you give them, throw them, what they call it, the Irish whip,

and then you throw them in the ropes, and then when they run at you, you jump up, like spread eagle over him. I bet you Sewell can do that. I would be afraid for him to try that trick on my watch, but I bet you Sewell could do that. There was a, it's like a random D-Lyman that, and when I was in Denver,

that could just hit backflips. I was just like, I couldn't do a backflip. I was 200 pounds lighter than him and faster, more explosive. It's just like the level. Who was the guy? It was Tristan Wharfs, right? Who?

That man, did a vertical leap out of a pool, go try it. Google it, look it up, watch him do it, then go goddamn try it. You know how hard that is? It's absurd.

You know how much strength you have to have and power. It's not just strength and power. Explosed because he's all so big. Throw your body out of a pool. That, I believe, is that also, when worst, worse went to,

Iowa. Oh, yeah, Iowa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, where that Iowa Strip program, man. That Iowa Strip program is a whole other thing. I'd also want to say this while I'm thinking about it with the Polynesians. Don't the Polynesians break all of our binary race-based assumptions of athletic ability. Like, where do the Polynesians fall in on this? I don't know. Yeah, we haven't paid, I mean, outside of football, it's, and, uh, yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I, I mean, that seemed to be the only sport that we really done got them into,

but they'd be out there running, they'd be out there jumping, they'd be doing all that stuff. And all I'm saying is, like, that boy, Tua, if we didn't know that Polynesia existed, where he get his hair cut at, you feel me? Right? Like, they would be saying, that's us. Yeah, his brother was, went to Maryland and was a quarterback there for a while.

And yeah, yeah, that's us. Yeah, they out there trying to explain to the cops. No, no, no, no. Why are you going through my shit, man? Like, no, come on, man. Oh, it happened. Y'all think, read, read, don't you see all these letters? That ain't African?

You know what I'm saying? They out here trying to get out of the trick bag because they've been discriminated against in that moment. I can't get past it jumping out of a pool. It's summertime. So y'all are, y'all probably in pools every now and they just try it. The other thing is, it's not just the fact that you could jump out to pool to make it is that you got to have a confidence to know you got to make that clearly

because otherwise this could turn into a catastrophe at that size like what are you doing man there's only there's only one way to get out of pool it's a climb out that's only way anyone's ever gotten out of a pool sometimes with a ladder sometimes on the ledge no one's ever gotten out of a pool in any other way there's many ways to get in the pool but it's only one way to get out unless your name is Tristan works I ain't never seen nobody else do that well I also think the other thing people who side of generally speaking about the athleticism of offensive alignment is, they're not faster than you, but they're

faster than me. They're faster than 95% of the people who are listening to this podcast. Like, oh man, he ran a 5-2 in the 40. You go do it. Go do it right now. And I bet you're not going to put up no 5-2. That is always funny how

people just assume, yeah, that they can run a certain time. Like it happens every year. No one gets out of it. Like, yeah, y'all listening, y'all running seven, six. It's like, it's a long, long way. Unless you were a college athlete or something, it's a long way. Yeah, most of y'all, most of y'all ain't getting no 40 yard. And them big boys be out there getting it.

Like when Andre Smith that year, when he was out there with them thying, swang, and left and right, and we had all them jokes, his big ass was running faster than you could. Oh, gosh, I'm sorry. I got sidetrack. I'll just watch this man explode out of a pool. I'll tell you, man. that sizzle reel that the Iowa strength program, you know, they had you know, they had to get rid of that one strength coach,

you know, because all that sizzle. In fact, we need to go look at the roster, man, see if they got any more of the new phenomenon coming out of there. Because they had our boy, Coop, Riley Moss. They'd be trying the new phenomenon out there. Shout out to the OG new phenomenon from Iowa, Tim DeWite.

Oh, yeah. Riley Moss is underappreciated. Like, Coop got a lot of love because of his basketball tape and because his team was really good and he played in big time moments and made plays. I don't mean this to be judgmental of him, but I think we got to be honest. It's like, he's a hell of a white nickel and... Nick Cole. Nick Cole. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I emphasize that. My bad.

Oh, no, no, you did just fine. I just need you to know who your real friends are. You know I'm going to leave you out there. I appreciate it. And I know that Cooper DeGine, you and I were on this early. I know he has the ability to play on the outside and does sometimes. But we underappreciating Riley Moss because that man play on the outside all the time and he plays opposite Patrick Sartan. And that's not even it.

On a defense, on a defense that only plays man to man coverage. every snap just about. Milk check every down. I had not considered the fact that he is the other corner. And you as someone who has lived a life as being the other corner on the other side of that guy, you get, you get in a workout today, buddy. I've been the other corner on the other side of one of the best in the league

and in the history of the league. And I also have a complexion that will make you think twice and put up a 40 time that might make you run some short routes. Riley Moss is out there. And again, I played in the defense that we mixed some zone in. We did a lot of zero blitzes and some man coverage, but we mixed in some fours and twos. That ain't really what they're doing.

I ain't looked up the percentage, but they have to lead the league and man coverage percentage. And he's just out there manned up all game long. I think part of why Coop gets the attention is I remember where Riley Moss was going through draft process. I think he was a second or third round pick somewhere in there. But, you know, the projections were that he would be there. You'd see people talking about it, but they ain't really, like, get into the conversation.

And I think he walked so that Coop could run. Like, once it became clear that Riley Moss was an actual, like, NFL player. Now we, but even then, they were still real skeptical on our guy, Coupe, right? I think they started looking at him a little closer, like, look at that nose. I think he might be able to, think he might be able to get it done. Oh, God. Trying to claim my man. That's right. That's right.

Oh, goodness, man. Coming up next, coming up next. We're going to talk about Jerry Jones being all something, a little bit, cuckoo. All right. We are back with Dominique Foxworth, and I was sitting here mind of my own business, getting ready for the show, coming up with stuff. And I look up on the television, and you up there with Adam Schaefter, and you were there with Ryan Clark.

And Adam Schaefter was there with. explaining how the Michael Parsons deal is not imminent because Michael Parsons just at practice looking sad every day, right? Just looking bummed out, but he got to come so he, you know, so they don't find him, you know, take his money away from him. And Adam Schaefter told us the reason that apparently a deal has not been done with Michael Parsons. And if you haven't heard this, this is pretty amazing. So apparently Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons had worked out the frame of work of a deal. Notice I say Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons. I don't mean Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons camp. I mean Jerry Jones and Michael Parsons had worked this deal out. And at some point,

Michael Parsons agent, David Mulgetta, was like, what? You lost your mind. And so now he's coming in and trying to undo some of what had been discussed, right? But, you're just, Jerry Jones is like, hey, deal's a deal. We already worked that part out. And that is a significant part of why we're still here. The way Adam Shepter talked about it is the idea that the deal is for call and conclusion is not there, that they've got to undo and redo in order to make this happen. And Dominique, how did they make this so difficult?

I mean, you don't give Michael Parsons exactly what he asked for, but you kind of do. I was going to say that I don't want to repeat the stuff that I said on Get Up, but I imagine that, excuse me, not everybody is watching. Hold on, you're not required to make up new answers when the answer is the answer. You know what I'm saying? Just so you know, we can't let these motherfuckers have this because I'd be seeing this happen too. We were like, man, he said the same thing over. Sometimes you do that.

I just have a hard time because I understand when there are, situations, I understand why some negotiations get difficult and contentious. Like, while I rarely and probably never is fair end up on the side of management, I understand. I pipe down a little bit if that argument has happened. I just might avoid that topic because I don't feel like caping for them. This one don't make no sense. Like, this is a simple situation and there are negotiations in this.

this should not be a negotiation. I think this is tantamount to a max salary in basketball. Like, it's time. This will he get. Pay him. This is not someone you should negotiate with. He was a first round pick who performed better than you, who performed like on a Hall of Fame track.

What are we doing? You pay him $1 more than the person who got paid at that position prior to him. You make him the highest paid non-quarterback in the league. The sooner you can do it, the better off you can be. That's what I don't understand is you have to understand that there are some car dealerships you can go into and haggle. There are some that the price is the price because it's so rare and valuable. Tell me somebody who got a good deal on a brand new Lamborghini. Never happened.

Not never, not never. Just go in there and pay. That's what doesn't make sense to me. It's like it's just not how it works, how it's ever worked. I don't know what they're doing from the Cowboys side. He is, I've been thinking about this. He is probably the greatest non-Turp defensive player in the history of the Dallas Cowboys.

Only that one Terp I can think of, like DeMarcus Wears may be in the conversation also, right? But if we're not talking about Randy White, I can't think of a Cowboy, oh, Dioz. Yeah. But you can make a. argument given the thing that gets lost because they don't ask him to do it anymore is that Michael Parsons would be maybe the best off ball linebacker too, right?

Like it just because the plan was not for him to be an edge rusher when he got there. Otherwise, he does not go number 12 or whatever it was in the draft. Then they're like, oh, he can do that too. Okay, cool. He's that guy. There's no way around it. I can't believe. Like, I could understand why it might take you a while to come to a consensus

with C.D. Lamb, I can understand how it is that you don't want to have to make yourself Pay D. Prescott all that money. You should be excited about giving that money to Michael Parsons. You can't wait. Like, there's no way that it helps you. So, like, if you pay him sooner, the price is lower. If you pay him sooner, your cap hit is lower. If you pay him sooner, then you have him extended through the period where he is most impactful. You pay him sooner, you have money to negotiate to add other people to this roster. And when there are players, like there are some deals that are easy to do. And I don't understand why you want to expend so much of this capital.

Like I don't know. And the fact that David Mugeta is like a long time really successful, really successful, like one of the best agents in football. The fact that he is the agent makes it even easier. You ain't pulling a fast one on him, man. He knows the game. And he also, like, he ain't trying to do nothing trick. I don't know what he's asking for, but he ain't trying to make a name for himself.

You know what the deal is. Find the deal. And they got a good team. Yeah. I think it is because they are such an understandable object of ridicule, it's easy to lose side of the fact they won seven games last year with a very hurt, Dak Prescott. Right. Now, they gave up.

Holy shit. Do you know how many points they gave? up last year. Do you know the exact number? I don't. 468. To put this in context, the Eagles scored 463. That's not right. Right? So it was like the Eagles gave up 303. The Cowboys gave up 4 to 68. Even better context. The Giants gave up 450. Ugh. I mean, that's awful.

Awful. Awful. Awful. But they still have a chance to be pretty good. My expectation is that this Washington thing is not going to go for people the way that they expected to.

I think I always, my assumption with young quarterback in year two is not, and it's only up from here. That's not how quarterback stuff works, right? Any of that can happen. Cliff, people tend to catch on to whatever it is.

Cliff has been doing, you know, you got that situation. Oh, and they ain't given Terry McClure on his money, which is another confusing one. But all right, whatever y'all think, right? The Cowboys got a good chance to be second in that division, which can be a Super Bowl contender, to be honest. You know, you get the right draw. You can make this happen.

This is the guy, you just got to get a bread to, man. But Jerry, my thing with Jerry now, and I've long thought that Jerry gets a bit of a bad rap. I think Jerry's a better football. than he has gotten credit for. I met Jerry in person for the first time. In fact, you were with me. I believe it was 2022.

We did Bob Costas show back on the record with Bob Costas, and Jerry was there. And when you're around, Jerry, you can see, oh, this is how he traffics. This is why he gets where he is. He feels old now. And he never felt old before. But he feels old, but is still always at the microphone.

He loves it. loves it. But every day you get a hole. And look, it's tough for cats getting older, man. Every day they know that they're not as sharp as they was the day before. You know, but Jerry is on the mic every day and we're seeing it. We're seeing it. And it is not helpful.

And he also, like, still has the power and influence that he had before. So I suspect that he allow, I hope. I mean, I've heard, to be fair, that some of the, football scouting and those decisions like are delegated to more to younger and more qualified people or not necessarily more qualified more active people and he still wants to make these bigger decisions and talk about these bigger decisions which makes everyone else's job in life more difficult but that's the situation that i don't know any way around it you started to go to the terry mccorne thing and this was the big sticking point for me on terry mccorne is i understand the position of the

commanders where they're like, all right, well, you ain't better than Justin Jefferson so we can't pay you. You're 30 and receivers go down at that point so we can't pay you. I get it logically. But you know who you can't get? Justin Jefferson? You know who else you can't get? Some receiver under 30. This is the situation you're in and you believe yourself to be in some sort of championship shit window. You have a quarterback who specializes in throwing the deep ball. You know who caught most of those? Terry McCorn. Like, it's about your options. You don't have any other options unless you want to take a step back this year, which they may have to anyway because, I mean, it's just hard in football. And a lot of their one score wins. They had a Hail Mary win. They were like 100% on fourth down

conversions last year. Like, that stuff could change. But you're certainly not going to be any better without him. So I really don't get the rationale, especially while you have a quarterback who's playing MVP level football for rookie money. A young guy, man. Like, again, I'm talking it's ups and downs with that. You still need to keep everything else around the young guy cracking. You still need everything. And, man, you live there, man. I can only imagine how excited they are.

They're team good. And it looked like they might start being racist again. Boy, I can't imagine how gassed up people are down there. For those of you who ain't seen this, Trump. trying to get them to go back to calling the team to ours. He wants to get back there. When you talk about the Washington football team could go back to be a racist,

you got to be specific. Because if they go back to their true racist roots, they're going to be looking for a quarterback again. That is true. That is true. That is true. Y'all, the R's are my greatest example of every time somebody like the fans won't tolerate progress,

what you think they was giving back that Doug Williams, you, Doug Williams still ain't paying for nothing around those parts. You think they was like, no, I'd rather, the way that Dallas fans would rather not win than do it without, I mean, they would rather lose and Luca Dodgich than win with Anthony Davis.

That is not how they treated that Doug Williams Super Bowl. Love it. They love that Doug William Super Bowl, even though there's a last team in pro football to have black people on it. Like, they put that Doug William Super Bowl, like, woo-hoo. Dude, I told you, man, you go look at what their

record was before Joe Gibbs. They had a Cardinals. Yeah. Like they just, they were just like, no, we'd rather be sorry. The Cardinals, like, I don't know when it was. It was a few, like 10 years ago or so or something like that where I realize how historic a franchise the Cardinals are. The oldest.

Right. And we don't think of them that way because they don't got, they don't got no glory days. It's crazy. Like, the Cardinals feel like an expansion team from the 90s a little bit. But the Cardinals been a multiple. cities and they've been around since this shit started and they just ain't had nothing that we can look to. It'll be like, oh, remember when they had that dynasty?

Well, because think about it, right? The Bears, you can talk about the Dick of years, but the Bears, honestly, since like the 1940s have been sorry, right? They won a championship, I want to say, 1963. They won the one in 1985. Otherwise, they've been cheats, but they're the Bears. We can point at least to those points.

We got some names. The Cardinals ain't got no coach that we think, like you know Bruce Arians and like the things they've done, But you're right, they ain't had no run, but I believe that of the active franchises, I believe they are the oldest. And we don't, you're right, we don't think of them that way at all.

And it's like those old franchises, like their logos mean something and it like, it resonates for you. Like, that bird don't do nothing for me, man. That little birdhead, like, I feel like that, like the bears see? Like, I see that. That Packers emblem, I see that?

I'm like, um, football. I see that Cardinals bird. I'm like, okay, cool. Somebody looks like a three and a half point of foot underdog. Like that is, the Steelers, man? I see that little Steelers thing. I think about, yeah. And the Steelers, by the way, are another team that was sorry until they weren't.

They were the worst team in the league until the 70s came. And they were like, okay, got two ideas. I hear those black people colleges have good players. and shall we say they're training the prayers and the vitamins they got all they got all the train and the prayers and the vitamins and then they was unreal but if you took that six year period out where they won those four Super Bowls

ooh that's another one that's a shaky situation yeah but I mean since then though yes yeah they had but yeah that's like the history of it and like the I mean the cowboys are kind of the ultimate example but they've had had some good runs. The fair thing about the Cowboys, they haven't won championship, but they had some, like, meaningful runs since then, including Romo to DAC. Oh, yeah. I mean, the whole Tom Landry era was, like, amazing. Like, Tom Landry era then to the- He was only sorry for like a couple of years.

And they got him out of that. You know, the Jerry, like, got him out of here. But with the Steelers, the reason I bring that up and I think often gets lost, Tomlin has the line. The standard is the standard, right? And it is caught because Mike Tomlin is like the Jay-Z of football, right? Like, he got, he got, he got, he got that bar for you that you'll remember. But take away the four championships in six years. They're just like everybody else when it comes to Super Bowls, right? But they have won two Super Bowls since 1979, two.

So, I mean, to be fair, though, who are you talking about that does not? Because it's, I know we, I know how we got here, so it doesn't sound crazy, but in isolation, and take away the four Super Bowls in six years. No. It does. But given that that was now 50 years ago, right. I think we could look at this a little bit. The argument that, yes, Tomlin has not won a playoff game since the Obama administration,

which feels somewhat poetic, but neither here nor there, right? I understand the criticism of them not winning those playoff games, right? It's kind of a Marvin Lewis sort of argument. I get where people come from on that. The idea that since there, the Steelers, they're supposed to be competing for Super Bowls every year, that is not supported by the last 45 years of history. It's not. They're like everybody else. If they get to it, it'll be great. The 49ers in that time period have been to, I want to say, seven Super Bowls

where the Steelers have been there for. Like, it's not, it's not the same. It's just not. Nobody talks about the 49ers like, well, you ain't won no Super Bowls in this. Forty-9ers, they won no Super Bowl since 1994. Right. And nobody's like the standard is the standard. They've been close. That's fair. Yeah, I'm just looking around at,

I think the, the, the dolphins are another team that I feel like should, they had, they should be more respected, but it doesn't feel that way. And they were like the winning his team for a long time and they had that Shula run in Marino. But I'm just looking at these logos, honestly, right now and like,

trying to see which ones when I look at them, I'll be like, oh, and it ain't the dolphins, which is unfair to them, I guess. No, I mean, they went to five Super Bowls between the 1970s and 1980s, and they got Don Shula out of there after a winning season because the standard was the standard. And the way that people older than me view the dolphins is so completely different than people around our age view them because they were a historically great franchise and they've just been kind of booty ever since. You know, like the Denver Broncos are a historically great franchise

that we don't think of as a historically great franchise. For example, then, you know, well, the Raiders used to be. How many runs do you need or like, how do you determine that is it over multiple coaches, over different eras, over multiple quarterbacks? Like, how do you? That's a good question. Because a lot of these teams, they had a really great run at a good time

because I feel like most of the teams that we think of as these great historic teams are teams that had dynasties before free agency or around the onset of free agency and we're like they're just such a well-run organization like nah, they were just taking advantage of the players better than everyone. Or like you have your burst to run at the right time.

I mean, the New England Patriots non-Belichick version. Cheeks. even with two Super Bowls, two appearances at least, right? We're talking about cheeks here. Nobody, like, nobody's like North Carolina men's basketball, right? Or Alabama football, where we just be good for a real long time. Yeah, it may be a little lull, but then we're going to pop back up and get a crack it.

That's not really how the NFL works. Everybody has had, like, you know, the Browns had they run again before other people really got on the black people thing. You know what I'm saying? and they had a, they had themselves a nice run. The Bengals, you know, until this Brown took over. You know, they've been, they had a couple super bowls that they had gone to. Honestly, the only team that's been like super consistently good like that for their entire existence has been your boys to Baltimore Ravens. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, what they've done is been really impressive and amazing, but they came in. Yeah, and they didn't even, they didn't come in in a good situation, but they were pretty good right away. and it was that draft, man, the draft that you were not tough. That man, that man, that man, Maita, that man, mighta, that man, his first draft as actual general manager of the Baltimore Ravens, that man messed around and got two of the best players in the history of their position and just kicked this thing off right. It ain't turned back since. Two guys who have an argument for being the greatest of all time at their positions. I am about to read all for you in order

a run of Baltimore Ravens first round picks. I am going to stop at the year 2006. So this is from 1996 to 2006. It's 10 drafts over 11 years. Okay. Jonathan Ogden. Ray Lewis. Now I'm about to hit him with the sleeper. Then wanted the boys be forgetting about Peter Bullwere.

Oh. Another super edge rusher who also could play off the ball, right? Dwayne Starks. No. Very good. A very good player. Chris McAllister. Yeah.

Jamal Lewis. Travis Taylor. Todd Heap. Ed Reed. Terrell Suggs. Oh. Bowler. Mark Clayton.

And hallo de Nata. Lord. Okay. So that's three guys who are in the Hall of Fame right now. Two more who I think will go in, not I think is a no-brainer Hall of Famer. Suggs I don't feel as enthusiastic about, but I still think he's going to be a Hall of Fame.

He's going to get in, yeah. Because I'm the kind of guy who would do this. I would put Jabal Lewis in the Hall of Fame. Right? Chris McAllister was a monster. Yeah. That's a hell of a run of Picks, old boy. What are you talking about, I mean,

And the bottom of the barrel there, like, if we cut out the complete misses, we talk about like all pro level, pro bowl level guys. Like, yeah, Ozzy, he wasn't missing. I was going to say it's a high streak. But that ain't a streak, man. So long. This is what I do. How you get that many Hall of Famers?

That's insanity, man. And it also reminds me of one of my favorite football pictures of all time. Jonathan Ogden player for St. Albans. And you have to understand, guys. St. Albans is like a place where, like, very rich people send their kids in D.C. Jonathan Ogden was 6'9. Okay, I'll put it this way. You know who played offensive line for St. Albans?

Not all of you will know this, but if you are a viewer of the Dominique Foxworth Show, Charlie Cravitz played offensive line at St. Albans. And if Charlie Kravitz had been in that picture, of Jonathan Ogden playing. He would have been the second biggest person in that picture. I just can't believe that those rich dorts had the nerve to have to run up on Jonathan Ogden at any point. The reason why that picture is so impressive is because Jonathan is surrounded by a bunch

of dudes named Charlie. That's why it's so amazing. And Jonathan, I mean, he was on their team, so I'm sure they didn't mind it. But I guarantee you, there was some other private schools in that league that was not happy about Jonathan Ogden. Coming downhill on their future president. No, brother, you had to treat that like they treated Orlando Pace at Ohio State. We just not even going to put nobody over there.

Yeah, why not? We're not going to subject nobody to that. By the way, the 1997 draft, you want to talk about a sneaky draft, Orlando Pace, Walter Jones, and Tony Gonzalez in the top 13. That's impressive. With Shaw Springs, Peter Bullware, James Ferrier, and my man Warwick Dunn throwing in in there. Peter Bowler, like that name, Florida State, he was from, he's from Baltimore too.

No, he is from, no, he is. I'm thinking about Darnell Docket, the Baltimore Dunbar. Bullware is from South Carolina. He was a monster, man. Yeah, but the African Americans would not be fond of his politics, I don't

think. Yeah. Like he run for office on it. Like it ain't enough. You know what I'm saying? Getting his Hershal Walker on? Yeah, well, hopefully not that far. Yes. Yes. They be in the same rooms. Y'all call them the same name. Well, you know what? Nobody's concerned about that when he's getting after the passer. That's right. That's right. You can talk about all the bootstraps you want to talk about. Show me yourself, hatred, brother. Go out here and put it out there. If you are, if you do possess any, by the way.

I'm throwing it up as a hypothetical. The last thing I was saying for people, just because I mentioned Warwick Dunn, Warwick Dunn is like the nicest man in the world and Warwick Dunn is the least assuming football player that you will ever see in person and I will tell you an example of this. I'm in Vegas for the Super Bowl last year and I'm outside of Circa, the joint down off the strip. And I'm talking to Warwick Dunn

and we say what's up or whatever and we get done with the conversation because my friends walked past me and I was like, yep, that was Warwick Dunn. They're like, damn, that was Warwick Dunn. Yes. Who were these friends? friends, Charlie Kravitz and Dominique Foster.

Like, because why would you think Warwick Dunn was a football player? Nothing indicates football player about Ward Dunn unless he's out there playing football. Oh, yeah. Before that incident, I'd interview Warg. I'd been around a bunch of tiles, but yeah, you know, it's not, yeah, nothing about him suggests that. And then you see him, his quickness, athleticism and change your mind. Yeah, I'd be with Warg Dunn, like, damn, I'm feeling a little, a little tall.

Definitely not big. I never feel big, but I definitely stand with Warren Dunn. They're going to be like, damn, do you hoop? Are you his agent, perhaps? We were at a flag football tournament last weekend, and I ran in Vince Carter at the tournament, whose son was there. Vince Carter is very into, like, his kid sports.

He's talking about all his kids sports and how he's doing all that stuff. And his son, I think, was like seven or something. He was younger than my son, so I didn't see him play. But I could only imagine the type of athletes that Vince Carter is producing. He walked over and he was like, yeah, he's playing flag football at like seven, eight years all that.

Yeah, go ahead and get a, I don't know who's paying attention if you are a general manager for one of these colleges, but I'm pretty sure you can go ahead and send an offer over there immediately. Like Vince Carter did not possess the, what made Michael Jordan athleticism so crazy was the grace of it, right? Like the idea that it's like this dude is floating. It's like he's walking on. air. Vince Carter athleticism, just powerful explosion, like a smaller version of Dominique Wilkins

that could jump higher because I did that alt-cast with Vince last year. And so I got to kick with him a bit there. He's not a small man by any chance, but it's not, you don't really get it. Me and my brother, and I told Vince this, me and my brother thought that Vince Carter was six foot 10 for years just from watching him tip dunk when he was a freshman at Carolina. We're like, what is this? Like, my man, I got a partner who played

pick up with him at Woolen when he was at Carolina, and he described it only one way, humbling. Like, it was at that point where he still thought that he had a chance to make the hoop thing happen and then he'd get out there hooping with Vince. Humbling, guys. Humbling.

Yeah, I mean, I don't know if his son possesses the ability or any of his kids. He's going to find out. ability to shoot. But no, we're not going to find out. What I'm saying is the difference between Vince Carter is 6-6.

So if his son is 6-3, 6-2, that's big for football. And you know what you don't need to play football? Like, it's nice if you have grace or you have the fine motor coordination or hand-out coordination to repeat the jump shot

at like a golfer. That would be fantastic. We don't need that over here. We don't need that. here. You got some explosive athleticism? We're going to find a spot, man. There's a spot for a 6-2 dude who has explosive violent athleticism. Brother, I'm telling

you whatever sport we out here play. The Vince son say he want to play. He's on deck. You got a chance, right? You're going to get some reps. You're going to have the opportunity to show us what you can or can I do. We can't. Like, it's still so crazy to me that Virginia Tech did not offer

Steph Curry or Seth a scholarship. Hey, man, we're going to find out We're going to find out. Like, I like Seth Greenberg a lot. That's two balls that you dropped. Every year, Seth Greenberg would be out here talking about expended the tournament to 96 games. You wouldn't have had 96 teams.

You wouldn't have had to do that. If you would just let just, I know what people are going to say when they hear me say this. If you would just engage in a little nepotism, your whole career might have called. And look, that's the thing about it. Like, I think that, like, the idea of doing the Brody Jane's thing in the NBA. In the way that the Lakers did it, I didn't think that was cool.

But for USC, I wouldn't as scared if he averaged half a point in high school. We'll give you a year. Yeah. I mean, that's... I don't even think there's a conversation to be had right there. Like, can he walk and chew gum? All right. There's something in there.

Maybe we'll tap into it. Maybe not, but there's something in there. That's worth trying. And that is Dominique Fossworth. Check him out on the Dominique Fossberg show. Available over all five. podcast a giving away for free my brother i appreciate you appreciate you sir all right ladies and gentlemen thanks so much for joining us here on the right time we do this three times a week ryan

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