The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Giants fire Brian Daboll, Mavericks FIRE Nico Harrison, Brian Kelly-LSU drama | 11.11

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

Bomani Jones kicks off the show by reacting to the New York Giants firing Brian Daboll. He discusses why they had to make the move to save rookie Quarterback Jaxson Dart and asks if the Giants have become the New York Jets. Next, he discusses the recent gambling scandals in Major League Baseball and why both the league and Sportsbooks are responsible for this situation. Finally, he reacts to Brian Kelly filing suit against LSU, the Eagles beating the Packers on Monday Night Football, and the Mavericks moving on from Nico Harrison. Taping Note...shortly after we finished recording, we got word that Nico was getting fired, not MIGHT get fired. 00:30 - Brian Daboll gets fired 13:15 - MLB's ABSURD gambling scandal 30:00 - Brian Kelly SUES LSU 39:50 - Mavericks FIRE Nico Harrison Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We also have these boys in this gambling. But we got this thing right here. I got to be honest with you. I don't think anybody is surprised that Brian Daybold got. fired by the Giants, though I admit I wasn't, I wasn't expecting him to get fired after this game. Like, you lost the Bears, the Bears aren't bad and your quarterback got hurt. Oh, oh, that's why you got fired because the quarterback got hurt. Now, we did our show on Monday and made the point that Brian Daibold firmly believes that he

has found a market inefficiency, right? which is it takes years before people realize that you're going to run the ball with that white boy. No matter who that white boy happens to be, it takes them so long before they realize that's going to happen. So you might as well do it forever and ever and ever. But we got this from Mina Kimes, Ryan. Since Jackson Dart became a starter, he leads the league in quarterback runs, is second in contact, and has been tested for four concussions. Leads the league.

And he's played about 60, I think six. six games. Yes. Brian, it's the new day and age. It's 2025 with quarterbacks. They don't got him running like a black, like so when Josh Allen, when Dave all had Josh Allen, or before Dave Old even got there, I think, I made the point about Josh Allen that if Josh Allen's name was Jaheim, they'd have been running a completely different offense for him. And if he had been running some Jahean plays, everything would be okay. And then Brian Daibold got there and started running Jaheen plays for Josh Allen. The big galout special.

That's right. Look what he's become. He's a big ass rolling, roll a ball, a bunch of knives, right? Like, he became that guy. That's, this is what he does. Brian Dayball, guy Jackson Dart, and was like, no, that's Jay Money.

And got him running more than all the, he got him running more than all the dudes. Now, look, Loire Jackson hasn't been playing. Kyle Murray hasn't been playing. Jane Daniels hasn't been playing. Yeah, he doesn't have the same competition. I understand it. But at the same time, that is crazy.

Four concussions. Four, four. Now, here's what Brian DeBold was doing, and this is why they had to fire him. And I want to see you, and you tell me if I'm tripping here, okay? The reason you got to fire these coaches if you're going to make the quarterback transition,

which is what they did here, is that you make the transition with the quarterback, you keep the old coach. Nine times out of 10, the old coach knows his job is on the line. Right. Like, there is an understanding there, especially if the guy's been there for a while. You get this going or you got to go.

All right. That's what Brian Daybo knows. But Brian Daibold knows that getting going means winning games. Right. That's how you keep your job. But it's not really your job because you're trying to save it, right? Right. When you have to do something to save your job, you have lost your job,

and now you are trying to get your job back. So you have a job that is not actually your job. What I am saying is Brian Daybold has been treating the New York Giants and Jackson Dart like a rental car. Right. Right. Keep gas.

Yeah, I got a hurry if it get there. Take that bitch over the curve. You know what I'm saying? Like he's bumped into so many different things. Why? Because we run in late. That's why. And it ain't my car.

Right? I mean, if they say I can keep it, I will. But this isn't actually my car. And the Giants were like, hey, wait a minute. Why are we letting this motherfucker can drive our car. Yeah. That's my car.

And look what he's doing to my car. They have come, they have found their car, and it is dented all over the place. And they're like, hey, hey, hey, you got to bring that car back.

They called the repo man on that car. Bring that shit back. He's a lease, right? Right. He has no actual sense of ownership in that car. If he had bought the car,

that'd be one thing. Nope, he leased it and he treated it like that. And they say, hey, man, go get, go bring our shit back, man. Go go get it and go bring it back.

And now Brian Dayball doesn't have a job. Right. Now, could you please make the point that you made to be coming in here about how Brian Dayball got here and what he turned into? So I'm going to read a couple paragraphs from the ESPN story,

you know, kind of down towards the bottom. The high-headed coach had a rocky four years of the Giants filled with an ugly split with defensive coordinator week, Markendale after the 2023 season, and $100,000, find earlier in the year for approaching the blue medical tent while Dart was being examined for concussion.

Joe Shane at one point along the way had to monitor the coaching headsets to evaluate the coach's communication. Daibol also flipped a tablet at former quarterback Daniel Jones and replaced a good chunk of his staff over the past years. Translation, he was too much of an asshole for a tackle football coach. This is correct. Now, I just Googled something. And it said that Brian Daibol is six feet tall.

And I don't believe it. Yeah, I think he's five, ten and a half. Yeah, I need to see him lined up against some people because this is all. And you've seen some of those clips of like watching during a game where he points something at the, points on something at the table. And he just tossed people like they're morons. Right. That just flat out.

And it's kind of like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, yeah. But you're right. The GM of a tackle football team was like, hey, I got to keep an eye on what this guy. We have to. You need to watch your language. He is burning people out and hold on. His record as a head coach is 20, 40, and one. And this is the way that he's out here talking to people.

He got the big glute on track, and he parlayed that into, hold on, let me make sure I get this number right. Oh, wow, it felt like he'd been there longer than this. This is only year four. Right. This is only year four. But they were just like, he's going to kill. In the last three season, I think he was 11 and 33.

Yes. They said he's going to kill Jackson Darry. Right. And by the way, helps nothing that Daniel Jones has been on fire or at the very least is quarterbacking a team that's going to make the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, they might be the one scene. It's really on the board. And now the Giants who, second generation ownership, man.

My people don't think about this. Wellington Mara died and then this job era guys got. the team and he doesn't seem to be good at this at all. No. Like, like he doesn't. And this is across the board, man. The only team I can think of that gets better when the second generation gets the team was actually the Steelers, but that's because Generation one Rooney was just a little bit too busy breaking the law. You can look it up. I'm not making this up. He was, I think the word racketeer is what was going on there. The second generation guy was like, hey, I think I'll pay attention to football. And then there were

some steroids. But anyway, um, This is where the, like, you and I would just talk about this, Ryan. They're the Jets. Right, and they've been the Jets for 10 years. All right, so let's think about this. The last time the Jets went to the playoffs is 2010. The Giants have been to the playoffs a couple times since then,

but they won that Super Bowl in 2011. And then it's really, I think, been to the playoffs two years since then. I think they had one playoff. They might, they had Daniel Jones had one playoff wins. Yes, the one, the game in Minnesota, and then they had the boat. Remember when, when, when, uh, I remember the boys is on the boat. Right, with Tray songs,

and they was wearing no shirts and wearing jeans on a goddamn boat. Yeah. Like, that's it. That's what it's been. I've been here eight years, man. Eight years. There's been, I think, one good football team in the eight years that I have lived in this city. And that was that team was quarterback by Daniel Jones.

It was quarterback by Daniel Jones. So how good was the team actually? Because they beat a team that was quarterbacked by Kirk Cousins. By the way, are we, they are really, there's no way he's six feet tall, is there? There's no way. No, and I bet, like, when he really gets mad and nobody's around, I bet that shit is hilarious.

Like, his face get all red. He's one of those white people that can turn all those different colors. That's what I'm saying, and it goes all the way to the top. Right. You know, and I mean, yeah, dog, I just did the Giants. I just loved that the Giants woke up and was like, yo, we got to get anybody here before. You messes something up.

Yeah, I mean, and there's nothing like, you know, messing up the quarterback, not winning games, and being mean to everybody at work to really be the trifect of trying to keep your job. Yes, yes. No, but I think everybody needs to learn that lesson. Like this, Iber Fluse with the Bears last year is another sort of situation. This is going to happen if you turn it over. And then once you turn it over, what's going to wind up happening?

Now you wound up stacking up on that list of this quarterback and said this many offensive coordinators in this many years, right? Like all those things are going to start stacking up. No, no, no. Chances are, I guess what you're making. You know what it comes down to? This is where people get themselves in trouble, okay? This is what it comes down to.

They getting caught in this idea about whether or not somebody deserves to have their job or not. Now, you can make the argument that the Giants left Brian Day Bowl with Daniel Jones, right? Okay, Daniel Jones got hurt or whatever, and it would be unfair to fire Brian Daybow under those circumstances because he didn't have his quarterback. But you decided to go get another quarterback, a quarterback, by the way, that other teams actually wanted and believed that there was still something left with. But Brian Dayball, even if Daniel Jones hadn't got hurt, you know, or he got cut. That's right. He got hurt. Then he got cut.

My fault, because they stopped playing him because they did not want to have to pay. like the injury guarantees. So you're taking a guy who couldn't get it done with one guy, and then you give him the chance to do it with another guy, and then you realize you can't do that because he's treating them like a rental car. No, man, unless there's something incredibly unique going on with the circumstances and the situation, chances are if you got to go get the new quarterback, you're going to need to get the new coach.

Now, hey, maybe it's Don Shuler drafting Damarino, right? Maybe. Right, right. You can wind up in that situation or the reasonable transfer of power that often happens to quarterbacks. But on this, you knew there was a very good chance you were going to fire him. Fuck, deserve, fire him. Can I go through

the Giants head coaches since Tom Coughlin? Hold on. Can I, can I, I'm a try? Yeah. Let me roll with you. Ben McAdoo. 28 games, 13 and 15. Pat Shermer. 32 games, 9, and 23. Do we now go straight to Brian Dayball, or is there one in between? Joe Judge.

Oh, wow! I forgot. That happened. 10 and 23. And then we get to Brian Daibol. Then we get to Dayball. Remember that time that Brian Daibol was getting, got the interview with, I think it was the Giants and Bill Belichick sent a text to Brian about Brian Daibold getting that job with the New York Giants.

And it was the wrong Brian. Except he sent it to Brian Flores and Brian Flores said, coach, did you mean to send that to Brian Dayball or Brian Flores? And Belichick was like, my bad. Do you want to do Jets coaches since you've lived here? Since I've lived here. Okay. Todd Bowles was gone.

No, 2017, Todd Bowles was gone. You had one year of Tab Bowles. I got a year of Todd Bowles. I've got Adam Gase. Nine and 23. Who did they just fire to give this job to Aaron Glenn? I have forgotten who that, whoever that last. Bob solid 2030.

That sure did happen. And then they fired him in the middle of the year. Yeah. He had the best record out of all. He did. I mean, I... The thing is, with the Jets, we always just say, hey, they're the Jets. We have to start saying that about the Giants.

Correct. Right. Like, it's amazing who we do and do not cut slack for that, by the way. For example, before Matthew Stafford turned into apparently the best quarterback in the league, and he had those stretches of being mid, the way mid was intended with the lions, and everybody just blames the lions. Like, yeah, those terrible lions giving them Calvin Johnson to throw to. yuck

right like we all it's here and there where we pick it up but the Giants I mean I tell you it is go ask a Giants fan if they'd rather

if they'd rather roof water lions right now that's what I thought we got another gambling situation now here's the thing about this current gambling situation and I think

this is important for me to point out because most of us don't really pay that close attention to baseball all right we had the Terry Rozier situation over there

in the NBA we had Jonte Porter we got Maloney Leak Beasley, all players that you've probably heard of, though, to be perfectly honest, you only really know about Jonte Porter because he got caught gap, all right? Or maybe you're just a really big Michael Porter fan. Either way it goes. That's how you would know about who those people are. Baseball's got a little bit of a situation because they got an actual factual good player that is ensnared in something. And that is Emmanuel Clase. He is a relief pitcher for the Cleveland

Guardians. And you're like, yeah, he's a relief pitcher. He led the league in. He led the league saves three straight years and he was third in the Sy Young voting in 2024. And he was having a pretty good 2025 until people found out, hey, being investigated for some gambling shenanics. This is another player on the guardian's name Louis Ortiz. Both of these cats were indicted for pitch rigging. Yes. And you may be asking yourself, what is pitch rigging?

Which, I mean, at once it's exactly what it sounds like, but Ryan, you would also have to on the other hand, it sounds like it could just be slaying for something nasty. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say those words together. Yeah, pitch rigging. I need to talk a little faster. Like these things have, like, Marcus Spears, I forget what it is. Oh, what Dominique does get up. They got a segment called, what did D. Fox say?

For those of you who don't speak antiquated internet. But anyway, it's what does D. Fox say, and they got to cut in, and my man, Marcus Spears being like, I don't supposed to say that because I'm country, and I don't want to say the wrong thing, right? That's being your own self-defense coordinator. That is correct. Pitch Ringing had me being like, ooh, I'm glad this is my own show.

Otherwise, this could be really dangerous. But anyway, pitch rigging is this. At these gambling houses, you can do a prop bet on not just whether or not a pitch is going to be a ball or a strike, but also what the velocity of that pitch is going to be. And I'm assuming that you can, only do this on the first pitch because otherwise, I know they work very hard to make sure that

the technology works so that everybody's on the same time. You know what I mean? But it's only truly sustainable. I feel like you can make this work on the first pitch that a pitcher throws. So yes, just so you understand what it is, you bet on Manuel Claisse, whether or not his first pitch is going to be a ball or a strike, or, and this is what I never considered, they appear to also do an over under on the velocity of the pitch. Okay. So you can bet on whether or not the pitch is going to be a ball or a strike or over under, we'll call it 93 miles an hour on the pitch. These are things that you can bet on. All right. And so what the accusation is, is that Classay was intentionally throwing balls and then throwing, call it a slider off the

top rather than a cutter, a cutter off the top rather than a slider. And then there were people who were betting on this and very important detail, Class A was also giving people money to bet on this for himself, right? Then they are accusing him taking $5,000 to get another one of his partners, Luis Ortiz, also a pitcher, and on the same. same game. Now, I have to be honest with you, when I first heard about the story, all I heard about was the $5,000. And I was like, brother, if you risked it all for $5,000. But he didn't risk it all for $5,000. It actually turns out he really just risked it all for like $60,000. There was a contract certainly coming down to Pike for this dude, probably $100 million,

right? This was where it was going for him. But then this happened. Okay. I want to try to avoid the, wow, that's really stupid angle on this, right? Because I think that the stupidity is somewhat obvious, number one, number two. I'll never forget when my brother told me this when I was younger. It's like 25 years ago he told me this, but it was a very important point,

which is some people just really don't have good judgment. and those people who do have good judgment or at the very least decent judgment, we will never be able to understand people who don't know a bad idea when it's staring them in the face. You know what I mean? Like, never. We're never going to be the same people as those people where we can look at it and be like, oh, wow, that guy obviously could not tell not to touch that blazing hot stove. Some people just have terrible judgment.

This is an example of terrible judgment. or I don't know why this cat might have needed the money. Like when we were talking about dudes like Chauncey Billups and Terry Rozier, these cats had hundreds of millions of dollars, earned hundreds of millions of dollars at this point, right? It's like, how did you get here? Terry Rozier, clearly under a significant amount of debt. Chauncey Billups, presumably a similar thing,

but we don't really know the answer. This cat right here been making a couple three million dollars a year in baseball so far. and that isn't as much money as it sounds like. And this is what I mean when I say it isn't as much money as it sounds like. Most people who get to a place of making like $3 million have been making money along the way. And so you've built up and you've bought all the stuff that you need. And then these millions of dollars kind of become gravy. Maybe you buy a bigger house or whatever it is.

If you're starting from zero and I don't know anything about Emmanuel Claisse, right? Like he might be the fresh prince of Santo Domingo or wherever he is from the Dominican, right? His people may have all the paper. I have no idea, okay? If I had to guess, I would not assume that he comes from bread. That's just typically not the story that we get on the Dominican baseball players. Although it would be really funny if some of them are like really boozy and we just have no idea. Like I got a potting in New York and he married to a woman from a South American country

and he would like try to impress her and take her to the neighborhood, right, where the people from her country be. And she had to explain to him that, hey, man, while it is cool to be around my people, I'm a little fancier than this. You know what I mean? Like, they're like, like, in, in, in the old country,

she don't be hanging out of the type of neighborhood that is the neighborhood in the Bronx or in wood or wherever they be. You understand what I'm saying? Like, that's how it goes. Either way, let's start from the presumption that Class A don't have a lot of money. Let's then say that he's been making million dollars a year, a couple million dollars a year. Like, I looked it up. He ain't really hit foot a big score yet, right? How much of that money is going back to the crib?

Right? Like, I don't know how many people are depending on him. So what I'm saying there, there is a difference between making a lot of money and having a lot of money. And it is entirely possible. but a class is a person who has a lot of money. And therefore, an extra 60 G's, you know, might be a thing. On the other hand, Ryan, I believe they said that the other people in this plot were making like upwards of six figures in this, like the people that were behind him. I feel like Closset should have got his agent involved.

Right. In this. I don't think he's getting a big enough like split off of this. For sure. Yeah. Like I don't. Also, why don't. are these people who are running this game?

Are they placing their beds domestically rather than offshore? What's a little harder to track? Number one. Number two, they ain't got no crypto. Okay, now I'm out here criticizing them for being stupid. Go ahead. It sounds like they're running these games from all sorts of books. But like it does, while the offshore books are harder to catch.

Yeah, they're still. They're still sports books. Got you. Got you. That's a good point. They're still doing. They're still trying to make money the same way. Yeah.

Also, they're still trying not to get caught up. Correct, yes. Right? They're still, okay, totally makes sense. You are correct. But what struck me about this story was the idea that you could bet on how fast the pitch was. Or the idea that you could bet on something as simple as balls and strikes. The ability to do this, the sports books and the leagues set themselves up for this.

Now, one could argue that what I am engaging in is a measure of victim blaming because by nature of this, the crime is against the casino. Therefore, the casino is the victim in this case. And I think that point is important to bring up that the victim is the casino because in baseball, man, they'd be burning pitches all the time, right? What do you, you know, I probably need to throw a strike right now, but it's my turn to hit somebody in the earhole. you know what I mean like one pitch they'll burn a pitch all the time these are not crimes against the integrity of the game as far as the accusation goes it's just not these are crimes against the fiduciary sanctity of the sports books that is against whom the crime has been committed and I don't care that much about that right and I needed to be a little more carefully in my brain as

I think about this when it relates to the basketball stuff also. Nobody over there has been accused of fixing a game. I still think that that story was fairly catastrophic because, number one, it truly exposed the vulnerability of that league of guys who have made hundreds of millions of dollars could get caught up like this, if a Hall of Famer could get caught up like this, but because an NBA head coach may be in the pocket of organized crime, I think that that story was catastrophic. For baseball, these guys, this isn't the black socks, right?

It ain't eight men out. This is a dude trying to get over on the casino. I don't care that much about that. I also look at that from the standpoints of the casino and I say that's what you get. Now, to be fair to the casino, they're like, what do you mean? That's what we get.

What we do is we provide things for people to bet on. That's the business. Fair point. But y'all got a little greedy. Now, one could argue that they actually haven't gotten and greedy because none of them are actually making any money. Also, fair point, right? However, this was so easily fixable and manipulable.

Easily. And the reason is because it's nothing to burn a pitch. Right? And number two, I decided to throw a slider instead of a cutter. my prerogative, baby. Right. It's not fixing a game or even, you know, what Terry Rozier was accused of doing, right,

was essentially faking an injury. Yes. It was right. It was like betting an injury and saying, oh, my, I twist to my ankle. And I only got two points instead of eight or whatever. Right. Like that dad has a cost to your team.

Right. But I also still say on that front, it has a cost to your team. Terry Rozier could get away with that, but bam out of bio could not. Correct. You know what I mean? Right.

And so how much Terry, how much Terry Rozier actually swivel swings the game, shit, sometimes his coach might be glad he ain't playing. Yeah, exactly. That's the best thing to ever happen to us, right? Additioned by subtraction. Right, but he had no financial incentive to directly affect the outcome of the game. Right.

Right. And so that encourages, that makes it a little bit easier to encourage such behavior. In this case, there's nothing really to stop anybody from doing this, right? the only thing that's really going to stop somebody from doing this is the fact that you might get caught. And what we are learning is that doesn't truly dissuade as many people as we would like to think. I'm going to get caught. Or maybe you won't? Like, do you remember in the last dance where they told Michael Jordan if he came back in 1985 that there was a 10% chance that his career could end?

And he says with a 90% chance, then it won't. So I'm going to play. That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my life. But to some people, 90 is greater than 10. Right. Right. But like that's like that's Michael Jordan, who by the way, doesn't appear to be done. Right.

Terrible logic that he was using. Terrible. Think about I don't eat raw oysters because of the odds. And those odds are way lower than 10%. Right. Right. Like come on, man. But it's these thirst that everybody has to make as much money off this gambling as possible.

That they look at this and don't say to themselves. hey man, this is really easy for somebody to try to fix. But oh, well, let's go out here and get this money. Now, since that story has come out, on Monday, it was an announcement that baseball and the books have gotten together and decided to limit the prop bets to a maximum of $200 on this pitch thing. My question being, why could anybody ever bet more than $200 on this? Also, they have said that you can no longer attach these to parlayes because that's a big part what these cats was doing was, Claice is going to throw a ball

and Claice is going to be under 94 miles an hour, put that together in a parley. Walla, magic, right? Okay. Again, as good as Closet is, still seems really easy to track when somebody's decided to put some money on this and they're going to figure out what time it is.

All right? This seems very, very simple for somebody to figure out. But it's simple to figure out, also meaning it's simple to, induce somebody to engage in this. The fact that you know that you need to put a money limit on it in order to make it happen, y'all know y'all got greedy, okay?

So to me, this one is not, I mean, you can argue that what we have is kind of an institutional failure of what, like, sports is becoming. Okay, cool, right? Not just sports, but society. But what this really is, y'all trying to get every dollar that people have and then somebody caught you all up in the process.

This was a stupid thing for the books to ever to allow to happen. And if you want to have prop bets generally, I get it. I think we're going to eventually trend to a place where it goes away, except again, these people need to figure out how to make money, and this is a way that they've got to make money. But you can't make it this easy for people. You just can't. And they did.

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ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hide. All right, Bo. Let's get to some stories from the weekend. LSU and Brian Kelly drama continues. And a legal, Dan Wetzel's reporting and a legal filing obtained by ESPN, Brian Kelly's lawyer stated at LSU saying it, quote, never formally terminated Kelly are seeking to fire him, quote, cause, which would impact his near $54 million buyout. Kelly could be taking this to court as he

wants every dollar of said buyout. Bo, are you surprised by this development? Why didn't they do? You got to do this from the beginning. Like, also, what does formally terminate mean? Like, I'm assuming that means for cause. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no. So this is the thing. They want to fire him for cause now. Right. What this says, to me or the argument is we did not formally terminate him, yet he stopped coming to work. They're basically accusing him of no call, no show. That is, if only they had someone who had been in charge of collegiate athletic programs for a long time, an experienced person at multiple stops, who had worked with very pop, you know, popular and well,

respected people in the league. Yes. And, you know, who made this initial decision was going to figure out the ramifications of it. Oh, wait, they fired the athletic director three days after they fired the coach. Yes. But the argument they're trying to make is that they were sitting around every day, wondering when Brian Kelly was going to show up.

And then he never came. And so they had to fire him, right? Like, I had a buddy of mine. I'll never forget this. He worked at a, maybe that's what they tried to say. He worked at Marshalls when he was in high school. And I was like, yo, man, you still working at a mom. marshes? No. You get fired? No. Did you quit? No. What happened? They stopped giving me hours on the

schedule. I stopped coming to look. Is that what they say it happened with Brian Kelly? Yeah. It is you. Because you can't, don't call no show as a coach. It is just the whole, I understand not wanting to pay Brian Kelly $54 million. I wouldn't want to play Brian Kelly. $5. But like, yeah, but once you're making decision to get to like, we're moving on, like, that's a sunk cost thousand. You have, you're paying that money. Yes. We all know that you fired him. And in all likelihood, like there's an argument that it's cheaper for you to pay out the 54 over the term of the contract. Right. Then it's a line item. Yeah, then it is for you to pay 25 in a lump sum, right? Right. You know, like, it's the Bobby Benilla thing. Now, of course, these numbers are a little

But when people laugh at the Mets for Bobby Benilla, man, they gave that money to Bernie Madoff. They made so much more money than this $1 million. They were like, whatever, man. We got a, we have a Xerox machine over here that turns $1 into two. And you think we're worried about a fucking annuity? Are you serious? But this is going to continue. You just got to get out of this.

But now if you're going to fire for calls, you got to do that up front. but they're not as gangster as Tennessee. You remember when Tennessee, it sounded like they turned in Jeremy Pruitt to the NCAA so that they could fire for calls. They were willing to eat probation in order to move on.

LSU was not willing to do that. Just give them the money, man. But I think they offered him, I think, what were... It was 25 and then they offered him 30. And they were like, no, I will take every cent of that bio because of course they will.

Like, it sounds like, you can make the argument. That's part of the reason Brian Kelly took this job, as they offered him at guaranteed $100 million. Do you remember when the Knicks were trying to buy Stefan Marbury out? Yeah. And they kept coming up.

And one of my favorite NBA quotes of all time, they're going to give me all of my money. And then he was turning up court side at Knicks games all across the country. Yeah. Like he was traveling with the team, but not with the team, but just not playing. Oh, my God. I want Brian Kelly to start going to LSU games,

except he's going to need to sit. on the other team side. Yeah, I'm interested to see how he gets into that stadium. Also, by the way, we forgot about this. So they had announced, or the word it got out at least, I don't know if it was a full announcement, the Verga Osbury, the interim athletic director, was going to be named the athletic director.

And then they came back and said, no, no, no. They seem to have sorted that out now. They have, okay, but let me tell me, but they did came back and said, no, we have named him the acting athletic, director, not the interim athletic director, to which my man, Mark Ida said on Twitter, no, not the assistant manager, the assistant to the manager. Right. So what now? Things are going great in Baton Rouge. We'll see how the next. Oh, no, you said they straightened

that out now. So is Osbury, is he the athletic director? He is the athletic director. Because they just remember, they just hired, they had to hire, they had to hire a new president too. They do have to hire a new president. So they brought in a new president. And that's where the interim acting thing got confusing. It's like, so the new. So the new president. So the new president. So the new. So the new. So, president apparently messed that up. Okay. So you're telling me, though, that they hired a president, and the president didn't really get to hire his own athletic director.

Correct. And they're now going to try to hire a football coach. Right. I will also point this out. The question is, who is they? And that's also has not really been sorted out either. Hey, I may explain something else to people about Vergaosbury, if you don't know. V-E-R-G-E-S-B-E-R-R-Y.

go ahead and look up a picture of him. If you have never seen a picture of him before, press pause, then look up a picture of him, and then I will say my next sentence, and I will count it down three, two, one. Three, two, one. If you think they letting his black ass pick the athletic director, you are, you are.

You believe in a future that I don't think has gotten here yet. They wouldn't have done that when Obama was president. All right, moving on to Monday night football, not exactly a barn burner of game. Eagles win 10 to 7. over the Packers. Bo, who's been a more confusing quarterback this season? Jalen Hertz or Jordan Love? Oh, Jordan Love. Jalen Hurts doesn't really confuse me. I got a pretty good handle of what's going on there. I don't think he confuses anybody. It's just a matter of what you decide to say about him.

Right. Jordan Love, man, just he looks so cold at points. And by the way, I don't care what Joe Buckingham was trying to say, this was not a good football game. They kept trying to a really entertaining, score on this game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look here, soccer man. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, no, no, no, no. I did not think this was it.

Love, or is he a case of not actually confusing, just really talented and highly erratic? Is that what we've got? Right. And now people are starting to call for Matt Flour's job. Yes, that is, that is interesting. Right. Because one thing about this franchise,

they are a stable bunch. Correct. Since Mike Holmgren got that, Holmgren got that job, which is like in, what, 92 or something like that. Holmgren had his stretch. They did that quick Ray Rhodes run,

but Mike Sherman was there. That was a pretty steady run that they had there. Mike McCarthy got to stay there for a really long time. They have had three quarterbacks since I was in the seventh grade, eighth grade, my bad. But still, three quarterbacks since I was in the eighth grade. Yeah, they just,

they keep this thing moving really smooth. With Lefleur, this team has underachieved. I don't think there's any question about that. They also gave up a couple of first round picks in order to get Michael Parsons. This was a team that we looked at the beginning of the year as the win now. Do we think that the Packers are going to fire LaFleur? I'm inclined to say no. And the biggest reason I'm inclined to say no is a team that doesn't actually have an owner

is likely to be a little bit more patient. Like, I know they have a CEO set up, but I think there's a couple more voices that probably slow this down a little bit. And Flore is in the Mike Tomlin zone of if he got fired, he would have, immediately. People would fire their coach to hire Matt for. Immediately. And I don't know about you, but I don't feel like the problems that they have, and you know, we'll need to trust the people that eat the field a little bit more.

But the problems that they have seem to me to be much more about the play of the quarterback been the way that the quarterback has been coached. They're also down. They down a few guys. Like, I'm looking at their receivers. And I've heard of like guys that are receivers. I've only heard of two of them and only one of them because he wears a big hat. Do you think Matt before might be a Kyle Shanahan guy who loves sixes? That's another good question. But he's never had a six. I mean, he had a six who used to be in 10 and Aaron Rogers those last couple of years. Now, that's an interesting point, right? Because he had Aaron Rogers here,

but I think he had what, he was running the offense in Tennessee. Right. So I think he had, but I think he had Tadahill. Right. What, that,

all those guys seem to like sixes. Now, Sam Darnold, is he a six? Because he actually, like, he looks like, he looks like a good solid eight and a half.

Well, I, I want to tell you sometimes when you're a six and you're six, two, you become an eight. You know, if you're, if you're,

if you're, if you're a six and you're tall. It's a fair point. It's a fair point. But the thing is this, everybody in their division is good. Right. I think that they have a chance to turn this around, right? Like they're 5, 3 and 1.

I think they probably finished second of that division to America's team, the Detroit Lions. And then win a playoff game and everything's all right. Right. And finally, speaking of people who might lose their job, Tim McMahon for VSPN is reporting that Nico Harrison is now a firing of when, not if. they might make that decision in the midseason. Bo, are you surprised? All right.

I was kinder to Nico when this trade was made by most people. And by the way, let us never forget how amazing it was for all of us to wake up and be like, what? Yeah, that was a great content day. That is like the most shocking sports news. I think. Because it happened in the middle of the night. Happed in the middle.

I told you, man. Our boss, TD sent me that text. It was like, because I woke up at 4 o'clock in. the morning. I was flying to catch an early flight. And he said a text talk about, yeah, the Luca for AD trade. I was like, who the hell is AD? Because there's nowhere in the world. You're telling me that Luca dotes and Anthony Davis were in a trade. Yeah. Like, like, what are you talking about? Um, but anyway, I was kind of to Nico when that trade was made to most people. But I said on that day that trade was going to get him fired. So no, I am not surprised. I am surprised how bad

they are this year. They're bad. They put together a very bad roster. And it's just one of the things like, Can you imagine going to work when, and everyone's chanting fire Nico the whole game? Yeah. See, so here's what I say. I don't think that this is a very bad roster. But without Kyrie Irving, it is obviously an ill-fitting roster. The big thing that happened to them was the version of Anthony Davis that showed up. Look, look, here's what, this is what Nico needed. Nico needed people from the Lakers to say that they trade in Anthony Davis because he was lazy. right because that's what they did to lucca and he's over there looking like arnold swastonegger

just some other um eastern central european type of swole man right you don't look really swole but you know what i mean he's in i told you that was going to happen too best shape of his career was guaranteed from luka all right and now him and his merry band of europeans of all stripes they got him they got austin reves they got another white dude too la ravia yeah yeah and they just won six and they've won six of their last seven right right right Like they over there doing it. Anthony Davis came in looking like Stanley Roberts. Well, not exactly Stanley Roberts. That's going a little bit far. But it was a lot more. And remember when he tried to tell us? He was like, oh, yeah, you know, I just like to come in a little

heavy because then otherwise I start getting into shape and then I lose too much weight. Did he ever lose the weight? Yeah, he looks puffy. He looks puffy. Keep those words in mind because that is exactly how he looks. He looks puffy. So no, I am not surprised that Nico's going to get fired. They hate him. Like, there's just no way around it. There's literally nothing that he could ever do to make them get over the fact that he trained and look at down.

Just look, man. Rest in peace to Lenny Wilkins. Lenny Wilkins died a couple days ago, former NBA coach of Atlanta Hawks. And I saw my buddy David Dennis had gone on TV and he had done something about Lenny Wilkins and he was talking about his legacy in Atlantic's. David lives in Atlanta, but David is not from Atlanta, and you'll understand why I make that distinction. So he says about Lenny being a good guy, and they write a very flattering quote from Dominique Wilkins about Lenny Wilkins and everything else, and he was like, that is Lenny Wilkins' legacy in Atlanta.

That is not true. Lennie Wilkins is the dude who traded Dominique. And I realized that after the news came out that he had passed, and I watched David Dennis's segment, and my brain is just screaming, he traded Dominique. It's been 31. years and the man just died and he doesn't seem to be a bad dude. And all I could think about was he traded Dominique. Nico, you traded Luke. And look, they might fire him in the middle of a game, WWE style. In front of everybody. They go, they go trick him. Like, you know how it is when they be having people come out to mid court and then they bring back their families from Kuwait or Afghanistan or one of the places we be bombing.

You know what I'm saying? They might have dirt come out and hit him with a steel chair. This is, you traded Luca. And look, as much as cats like me who grew up rooting for Atlanta sports for all that time, like how we love Dominique, we are not white and neither is he. Like the black people from Dallas, they're a little salty about this. They think it's stupid. White people from Dallas or not even just from Dallas.

Some of them from Oklahoma because they used to roof a, Dallas before they had their own team. Bruh, no, no, I just, I don't know how he thought this was going to end. Right? It's like, hey, you know, we're going to see. No, you're going to get fired. So I don't really understand why it is that they are waiting. Go ahead and get that done right now.

What will be done eventually should be done immediately. So as soon as he made that trade, they should have been like, hey, okay, we press send on the trade. and let me get your ID, buddy. Go ahead. Yeah, like, as soon as he made that trade, he should have, they should have been like, yeah, go ahead, make the trade. Don't forget to bring your laptop and your key.

Now, of course, I guess that means they could have stopped him for making the trade also. But damn, like, damn, damn. All right, Bo, let's get to some voicemail. A lot of good submissions. Here's our first. Yeah, what's going over, Marty? This is Stefan, calling from Chicago.

I appreciate all the good content. provided me, give me through my workday on an almost daily basis. The question I have, previously you've mentioned your all-time favorite television show being a Simpsons. Like you, this is also my favorite. However, I too have not really followed it in the last 20 years, even though it's pretty much been around my whole life. I've been looking towards the past, what would you consider your favorite character and why isn't it, Sideshow Bob? Thanks for taking my question. Appreciate you. All right, Sideshow Bob is an amazing construction, right? Like the idea that you are this clinically, this classically trained actor,

and you are stuck riding shotgun to crusty the cloud, right? Like everything about him. My favorite Simpson character is tough, tough, tough. I'm a big Barney gumble fan, though. You remember the time that Maggie got lost and over, over and Bart had to try to find Maggie and somehow, but Barty wanted to cook breakfast and over is like, Barton, we got to find Maggie. Are you sure? I'm bought a big omelets. No, we gotta find Maggie. Are you sure? I make him with three kinds of cheese

than I run around the house. And parties looking under the, like, under the porch. And he's reaching under because he thinks he's seen Maggie's arm and he's yanking it. And Homer's like, yo, you're going to yank her arm bound party. He's like, the sooner we get her out of here, the sooner we get omelets. What? And that is just minorly level like Simpson's humor. I'm a big most cislack fan.

Oh, really? Dude. Oh, God. I'm going to say, you call this place one more time. I'm going to cut your head off. I'll put your head off. I'm going to use your head as a bucket and paint the wall with your brains. Oh, okay.

Wow. Also, Mr. Burns. Like, there's just a handful of characters that it's just like, yeah, every time they talk, it's funny. Mr. Burns? Yeah, I think that's how I am with Mr. Burns. My man, Willie, groundskeeper Willie. So let me tell you this. This is my new favorite Simpsons thing.

You'll love this. My stance teacher, me, Professor. She is I'm in Colombia. See, she lives in Colombia. And she apparently loves the Simpsons. It was explaining to me

that they got the Simpsons in all of this. But I don't remember why she just brought it up and mentioned groundskeeper Willie. Imagine the accent. Imagine Ground's Keeper Willie

in the groundskeeper Willie accent, but he's speaking Spanish. That's incredible. Like, is that really a thing? It appears to be a thing. All right. Here's our next one. Oh, what's going on, man? This is Charleston, D.C. Hey, man. So I got a crazy story, or a funny story, rather. My dad always likes to tell. So he's in college at Boogie State, and he's the tallest dude on his team, and his center gets injured.

So he's like, all right, I'll play center. It just so happened to be. that they go against Old Dominion. And I don't know if you know who played there, but it happens to be an NBA player by the name of, you guessed it, Charles Oakley. So they go to play the game. And Charles Oakley's body and my pops, you know, and he said,

man, he got about 40 on me. and he got 10 rebounds too. You know, I tried to do everything I could. And it was nothing I can do against him. But, you know, I got my 20, though. I'm like, pops. No, no, you let Charles Oakley put up 40 points on you. Yeah, yeah.

So what? I got my 20, though. And he loved telling that story. All right. Thanks again. You have a good day, both. All right. I appreciate you, brother. First of all, no shade to you on this just to help you out the next time. Oakley actually went to Virginia Union.

But if I were telling that story and I was his father, I would just leave out that he gave me 40 part. Like, either this is a story about Charles Oakley giving you 40 or about you giving Charles Oakley 20. Right. Do you just switch the order? Yes. And also, not to cast any aspersions on your father, but I'm going to need to see a box score

about this 20 that your father supposedly got on 6'8-8 Charles Oakley. Like I don't know how tall your dad is, right? Like I'm just saying, but I would like to, my brother's got a friend that held Michael Jordan to 14 in college once. And my brother cast the aspersions, but we looked it up.

He held him to 14. Now, granted, it was before the show. shot clock, but he did hold him to 14. I would love to see that like shot chart of Charles Oakley. It's just dots right around that run. Yes. I also don't imagine by the way that Charles Oakley just letting you get 20. Right. Like I especially with what the rules were 40 years ago, that seems like clothesline time. I'd also like to take a moment as I went to the Charles Oakley Wiki page while we were here to read a section that I didn't know existed called coaching and businesses.

On December 26, 2010, Oakley was hired as an assistant coach for the Bobcats under then head coach Paul Silas. And holy shit, I wish I had known that that was going on at the time. Oh, okay, he only stayed on that job for about a year. But I can't think of anything more terrifying than Charles Oakley and Paul Silas as the same coach and staff. I bet they was on time every day. Yeah, talk about a tag team. Oh, my God. Like, each of them could win a handicapped match.

And both of them love to fight people. Love to. Good gracious. But this is why I stopped on it. Oakley owns several commercial enterprises, including hair solutions and nails, et cetera, in East Cleveland, Ohio. He's from Cleveland.

Salon started with seed money from Oakley and run by his sisters. That's a good dude. Now, let's get to a couple of things that seem a little bit more. Oakley. I'll say before we get there. read the Steakhouse restaurants in Cleveland and South Beach. And I got to say, I do not think of Charles Oakley and the Steakhouse in the same sentence, right? Like, you want me to go there?

I bet there's a big old picture of Michael Jordan in the front. But these are the businesses that see more in line. All right. Oakley's Car Wash, Oil Change and Detail Centers in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn, and Yonkers, New York. Yep. That sounds like Charles Oakley. And Oakley's Wash House, a combination car wash, laundromat founded in East Cleveland, Ohio, overseed by his sister Carolyn and his mother

Corrine. And let me tell you something, that's how you know that all them Oakley's is gangster. Because you don't want to mess with whoever run the car wash. And his sisters run the car wash. You know who else runs a car wash, Ryan? I give you a hint. We did not talk about him on our last show. Copy. Got it. Got it. Got it. You know what? I'm talking about? Yes. That boy, Harve.

Yes. All right. Here's our last voicemail. Hey, Bo. This is TJ from Illinois. I was just calm because I had a story not about me stealing, but about a coworker mine. When I was 18, 19, I worked at a Taco Bell. And so basically the scam that employees that would run, not me, but other employees

would run is they would know the prices and things on the menu. And so when you pulled around, They would know the price, so you'd go up there, tell them your food order. They'd know what the price was, and then they would say that the credit card machine was down, and then they would just say what the amount was you had to pay cash. But what they were doing was because they knew the cash, they'd never put in the computer, and they would just keep the cash or whatever. So this has been going on for a while.

Everybody kind of knew what was going on. That was an employee with not management. So it ended up being found out because, of course, someone got mad at somebody else, and so they told. And so when the big manager came to town or whatever, I was asking questions, of course, people started snitching or whatever. So one of the people that I worked was wanted to save their job, so they told on the main person with this.

And so when it came time for her to ask about the thing, of course, he denied it, denied it, denied it. So lo and behold, when she went to go and walk around the thing, he reached in his pocket, why the cash fell out. So, of course, that started all the questions or whatever. And so she informed him this gentleman, like, you were no longer an employee of this Taco Bill. So whenever he went through this, started him in and honing and crying. And then so his final solution to keep his job was to ask her, like, do you have any way in your heart for forgiveness or whatever? And so her answer to this story was, well, you know, I can't forgive you.

Maybe when you get to the pearly gates, the Lord will forgive you, but I have no forgiveness for you. I just wanted to share that with you or would ever been a long time listener. Appreciate everything you do. Have a great day. Hey man, I appreciate you, brother, and I have worked at a place where a similar thing has happened. Ayer heard the phrase quit while you're ahead. I suggest another one in that case, which is quit before you go to jail. Can I keep my...

No, brother, that was a felony. You needed to get up out of that Taco Bill, pronto, right? Anybody else that was engaged in those shows? shenanigans needed to, like, you can decide how bad you wanted that last check, but you needed to not come back to work. Like, I was, you was really chancing the fates on that one. Ooh, especially in the credit card era, because you got to have a whole different level of premeditation, you know what I mean? Also, by the way, the best character on The Simpsons might actually be all the stuff in the background. Right. Have you seen the one, and this is actually new

Simpsons, and I saw somebody sit a clip of it. It's a sign in front of a store and says, reads seed and feed, formerly chucks. Take time and think about it, ladies and gentlemen. Write it down if you must. But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this here three times a week. Ryan Brumley headed things behind the scenes. Thank you, sir.

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