The Right Time with Bomani Jones - James Franklin FIRED by Penn State, Tua gets "too honest", LeBron James out a month | 10.13

Episode Date: October 13, 2025

Bomani Jones starts the show by reacting to Penn State firing James Franklin. He discusses what this means for Franklin, Penn State, and college football as a whole. Later, he discusses a jam-packed week 6 of NFL action, including the Chiefs beating the Lions, Baker's continued great run of football, and Tua getting a little honest after the Dolphins lost to the Chargers. He closes out the show by reacting to news of LeBron's old man injury, a judge dismissing Drake's lawsuit & getting to some listener voicemails. 1:00 - James Franklin gets fired 26:06 - NFL Week 6 42:45 - LeBron's old man injury Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. And I want to pull the curtain back for you guys just a little bit.

Like, we record the show at different times based on different circumstances. and sometimes we'll record a show on Sunday night and sometimes we'll record a show on Monday morning. It just kind of depends on what the sports day is like. You know what I mean? Give us a little more time for the edit, different things we try to provide the best product for you as we possibly can.

And on Sunday night, America's team, the Detroit Lions, lost a hard-fought battle against the Kansas City Chiefs. Damn it. We won't fight, though. But anyway, so we had decided that we were going to record on Monday morning. And Ryan, the reason is really best that we recorded on Monday morning this time is people don't realize we sat up here for 15 minutes before the show.

Yep. Talking about James Franklin. And could have talked more. Yeah, I have spent more of this time that I realized making sense of what happened with James Franklin. And let me tell you this. So get up this morning. tossing up some weights, you know what I'm saying, maintaining this physique.

And I came across some videos on Twitter and Josh Pate said something that I really hadn't quite thought about. James Franklin, in the last 42 games that he has coached, his team's record is 34 and 8. they just shit-cared him on Sunday. 34 and 8. Now, I have been trying to figure out where exactly to begin on this.

I know where I ultimately want to land on this. So when this happens, I talk to Spencer, and Spencer is explaining to me some of the outright coaching calamities that Penn State had in the last three games, these games that got Franklin fired. Okay? Now, for those of you who don't pay but so much attention to Penn State

or pay attention to college football in general, you may be thinking to yourself, hey, I heard people thought that Penn State was going to win the national championship to start the year. You are correct. You may have even heard people say, hey, I thought I heard that Penn State could win the national championship two and a half weeks ago,

you would also be correct. You may remember people being like, well, damn, they lost that home in overtime to a top five team. I mean, they can still pull it together, right? And you may be like, damn, I feel like that was 14 days ago. You would be correct.

and I've never seen anybody get themselves fired faster than this. Like, you have examples, and I talk about this all the time, legendarily, when Arkansas fired Jack Crow because they lost to the Citadel, and they fired his ass on Sunday. I've talked about that before. I feel like this, what happened here is in a similar class, but in a different one. Franklin's problem is, and I mentioned that 34 and 8, and we talk about this on the show a lot.

A couple weeks ago, we talked about it on the show, and I made the point that, in fact, it was last week, I think. Franklin's in that zone where it is more interesting when his team loses than it ever is when they win. By the way, I also said that about Dion Sanders, and they got a win over a ranked opponent over the weekend. and somehow I don't see my people marching in the streets and wearing red, black, and green like they was two years ago. It's weird. But anyway, Franklin got into that zone. And so you can put anybody's record up in college football, but because of the variance in what every game in college football is and what every game in college football means, it's not just about how many games you win. It's about who you beat.

It's not just about how many games you lose. It's about who beats you. Franklin had gotten very, very deep into the zone. By the way, so far out of small sample that he was about to be in legitimate, in is greater than 30 large sample on having a terrible record against top 10 opponents. I want to say it's 4 in 20 or 4 in 21. It's something in that zone. It's not hyperbole what I just gave you.

It's that bad. it's not just the games you win and not just the games you lose, it's who it happens against. Four and 21 against AP top 10 opponents and one in 18 against top 10 opponents in the Big 10. It can't be that, right? Now, does that mean you shit cared your coach in the middle of the year? Like, Ryan, you had, you were around when LSU did this to less mild. Correct.

But what was different, and you correct me if I'm wrong here on that season, they were set to fire less the year before and then there was this weird populace uprising in the middle of the game. Yeah, and they won a game against Texas A&M. Yeah. And everybody got sentimental about it.

And then they said, oh, okay, we'll bring Les back. And then you went out the next year, you lost at Lambeau Field and a couple more. And then it was just like, oh, okay, this is. He got fired at two and two. Yes. Now, they waited until the end of the year to fire Ogeron, right?

They, no, they told him in the middle of the year. this was your last year. He got it like kind of like a grace period. Like, hey, buddy, you got to go. Yeah, but he got the rest of the year. Correct. There were reports that Ed Ogeron was bringing his girlfriends and their children to practice.

Yes. There was a report that Ed O'Jeron accidentally tried to spit game to the wife of a member of the board as Circle K in the parking lot. Correct. I don't know if it was exactly circled. K, but I like to imagine that it was.

It was emotionally a circle K. Yes. Yes. By the way, did you know they have Circle Ks in Vietnam? No, I did not. That's a travel show I would watch. Circle K is deep in it. I didn't realize the brand was that strong.

Right, I'm out of your life. Did they have Piggly Wiggly 2? Well, so the thing about Asia is intellectual property is but a notion. Got it. Okay. Over there. Copyright infringement is wild, but I looked it up as I

call and it's actually a circle K. But anyway, I've never heard of somebody getting fired like this at this time because what does it serve? And that's before we get to the $50 million buyout. Now, this is what I am taking also from the fact that they shake hair Franklin with this many games left. They were still in the running to get to the playoff two weeks ago. They suffered not one but two inexcusable losses. Back to back, I have to assume that something happened. This doesn't make any sense. Like, I want to be clear about this.

People get fired because somebody wants to fire them. That's always the reason. No matter who it is, no matter what it is. People get fired because somebody wants to fire them. And clearly, people wanted to fire, Franklin. I don't know how well he got along with the people that make decisions there. I don't really have a great handle on his relationship with the fans. I do know that Penn State, okay, I don't know exactly how good Penn State fans believe they should actually be. But every now and

then, they should beat Ohio State in Michigan, at least when those two schools are good. You know what I mean? Like, every now and then, they should do that. It should not be a close. clear tier below. So I was talking to my buddy, Alan Kenny, who covers Oklahoma sports. And we were talking about the Gary Gibbs era of OU football, which none of you really remember too well, but back when the NCAA did stuff like, say you couldn't go on TV for a year and cut your scholarships to like 15 and wouldn't let you go to bowl games and all kinds of stuff like that, they put the hurt to Oklahoma, really put the hurt to Oklahoma. but Barry Switzer had to quit.

And Gary Gibbs had the job for like five or six years. And it wasn't a bad tenure. It was an okay tenure considering the circumstances. And it gets forgotten that it was actually an okay tenure considering the circumstances. The problem was he couldn't beat Colorado and he couldn't beat Nebraska. Those nine wins you got don't matter that much if you can't ever beat those people, ever. Like, Ryan, I think you'd agree with me. The thing that really got less Miles Fire was losing to Alabama five years in a row.

It might have been more than that. Yeah, I think it was five or six. It was four years in a row, but it was five games. Yes. Because the first one was the national championship game. Yeah. They couldn't cross the midfield. Yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to talk about it.

I was there. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. That's right. I can forget. That was at the Superdome. So you guys were just all there. We were all there. We were all there.

Yeah. We're all there. And you remember, they won in 03. Yes, and they won at 07. Both in New Orleans. Yes, they were. So people were prepared to be happy. Yes.

And they were not happy. Unless you quietly had a Miami Hurricanes run where it becomes easier to win national championships when you play the championship game at the crib. Yeah. Neither here or there, though. But yeah. So you got to win those every now and then. Like, I think a great example of this, like, again, this is the topic I love so much,

which is like the relativity of college football. Everybody talks about how great a rivalry, Auburn, Alabama is, and it's just great because those people are crazy. But these are not schools of equal footing. They're not. And I think Auburn fans understand that. I think they get that.

But what you need, here's what can't happen at Auburn. You can't have multiple cycles where players stay there for four years and never beat Alabama. You see what I mean? It can't be that. You got to get one every three, three to four years, right? You got to be able to say you did something like that. At Penn State, when you're talking about Ohio State and Michigan,

getting one out of the two of those has got to be a little bit more frequent than that. And on top of it, Penn State is a tier below Ohio State and always be. like Penn State is not a tier one. They're a tier below Ohio State. But if you were to try to ask me to explain why it is that Penn State shouldn't be better than Michigan, and by the way, right now they probably are better than Michigan. But there's no argument for why they cannot be consistently better than Michigan. And there's no argument for why it is that they should not try to find a coach that puts them

in a position where that happens. You see what I mean? like those are the questions that programs have to ask themselves. And it's in part because all of this is just about vibes, man. Like maybe Penn State fans think they're supposed to be winning national championships every year. I don't think they're that stupid. But, you know, perhaps it is possible that that's what it is.

But the legacy of Penn State football is not built on their time in the Big Ten. It's built on their time as an independent. They've been into Big Ten now for over. for 30 years. They've won the Big Ten, something like 30 times. I mean, three times. Ooh, 30, that would be amazing. They wanted something like three or four times.

Like, this is not, they're not that. But you can't do two inexcusable losses in a row and assume you're going to keep your job. If they wanted him to still be the coach, he would still be the coach, right? But one thing about taking an inexcusable loss immediately after an inexcusable loss, come on, man. That's tough on the people. I remember when Texas had to decide to get rid of Charlie Strong. Charlie Strong had an inexcusable loss at Kansas, and they didn't fire him.

And then they came out on Thanksgiving and got beat by a zillion points at home by, I think it was TCU. You can't do two inexcusable losses in a row. I just thought a $50 million buyout would insulate you in times like those. And buddy, I was wrong. I don't know who the Penn State money is. Like that's another fun game in college football is. Where exactly does your money come from? Who makes these money decisions?

Do you have one specific money man? I don't really know how it works at Penn State when it comes to all those. things. But I didn't, right, there are two ways to look at this. Either one, losing at home to Northwestern was so abominable that they were like, we're going to fire them and then we're going to figure out the money from there. Or number two, some people have made it known for a while, just say to work. We got the thing. Just say to work. I also think it's instructive that the same day that Pennstake has an unexcusable loss, Indiana goes to Ottson and it beats organ. And I think those things are related.

We're going to put a pit in that one, because that's also the most fun part about this. They just rounded up 50. Remember when the NCAA, we tried to tear down Penn State's program because they believed a program turned an eye to a legacy of child molestation? You remember that? The big thing they tried to express was we need to tear down a culture in a world and an idea that football

matters more than anything in the world, basically. And they did this whole spiel about that. That was in 2012 that they did this. Okay. It's 2025, and they're paying somebody $50 million not to work there anymore. Guys, I don't think that work. I've also been reading things where people give the indication that Penn State is all on board with the private equity push in the Big Ten. Like all of these things are going on at one time. Now do you see why me or Ryan could have talked about this for now. I can do a whole show about this because there's so many different things. We haven't gotten to, you know, the kind of comparisons to Jimbo, who the next coach is. We don't know any of that. There's no time to get to that part. We haven't gotten to

how good Penn Station actually be. Yeah. Like I started talking about that and then wound up on something else because I don't have a, they finished in the top five, in the top 10, five times in the last 10 years. They were lost by the field goal in the symbol. final, you know, what, 10 months ago? 10 months ago. They just lost it overtime in Oregon just a minute ago. And the coach just lost his job. And by the way, a defensible move.

It's just crazy because it costs $50 million. So yeah, maybe they need that private equity influx so they can go ahead and do this. There also has to be a bunch of other coaches shitting bricks right now. Because if somebody will pay $50 million to get that guy out of there, how serious are you? about football. I don't know if you guys remember this. When Florida State fired Willie Taggart, I want to say it was in the middle of his second year, which was the fastest that I recalled anybody under those circumstances getting fired, which raised all kinds of questions about whether or not you did that because, well, basically, clearly it hadn't happened to

know white people because it hadn't happened to nobody, right? But if you watched Willie Taggart Florida State Seminole football, boy, they looked like they needed to fire the coach. It had just never happened before. You see what I mean? It wasn't like, it was. It was, was understandable. You guys, if you listen to me for a while, you know I say, anybody can get fired for any reason. But it just never happened before. I want to say the week after, maybe two weeks after, Chad Morris was in the second season of a disastrous stint in Arkansas, and they lost at home 45 to 19 to Western Kentucky. And they fired that man the next day. Like, once the president had been set, Arkansas was like, all right, cool, we're going to go ahead and get his ass out of here.

it's got to be a bunch of people that shit in bricks right now. If they put together the 50 to get that dude out of there and we don't even know what they money be hitting on, hey, hey, hey, hey, Mike Norville, you might want to get your shit together down there at Florida State. Luke fickle? Luke fickle. I think he's done in that town.

Yeah. All you people need to really, really, really, really, really get this going. Now, what will be funny is Mike Loxley also is on that list because his replacement just became available. My guy, Joe Giulio, North Carolina says that Franklin has offset language in his contract. So if he gets another coaching job,

then boom, it decreases what Penn State owes him. And all I'm saying is nobody wants Mike Loxley to get fired better than Penn State does. Nobody does. Because that's the job he's going to. going to. That's the job that he's going to take. But Ryan hit it, where we start talking about people need to be nervous. I believe that there's a signetti effect in place. And you're like,

gee, guys, what is a signetti effect? Indiana didn't just go win this game against Oregon. If you watched Indiana play last year, in those two games that they lost, which were to Ohio state and to Notre Dame, they were not in the same class as those teams, right? They looked like what they were, which was a feel-good story that got some scheduling breaks because these big giant conferences is wide variance and who everybody gets to play. They had some scheduling breaks. It got them into the playoff and they got their asses kicked. Okay. Right. They went up to Oregon and they were on par with them. Guys, I'm talking about the Indiana Hoosiers.

Yeah. Them. Went to Outson, which is, you know, one of the toughest places to play. And they had won like 25 straight games there or something. And they were, they looked like the same football team.

This was not a gimmicky win by any stretch. Like, they might have had the better quarterback and they might have had the better offensive and defensive line. And by the way, this is one of those long flight games. And I do think there's legitimacy to that when people bring it up. One of those long flight games. flying out of Bloomington.

Yes. They're playing this on the road and they went in there and they punched them boys in the mouth. I remember in 2006 in the ACC, Wake Forest won the conference, okay? About half the conference turned over their coaches between that season and the next one. because when Wake Forest, by far the smallest school in the conference, with actual real live academic stuff with their football team, if they could win the ACC, nobody had any excuses.

If you look at what Duke football has become in the last 20 years, this is after Wake Forest won because suddenly Duke football had no excuses. Nobody has any excuses after Indiana gets to where they, are. So we were looking at the standing to the Big Ten before this year. And before the show started, Luke Fickle, O and Three, Jeff Brom at Purdue, O and three. Greg Shiano at Rutgers, O'N3, Jonathan Smith at Michigan State, O and three. All of you must be shaking in your boots right now, because you have no excuse. And don't think for a second that that did not offer some contribution to where James Franklin is right now and where it is that he's going to be.

The only question for Penn State is you can get different. And I understand why you want different. I do not know how much better you were going to get. I don't know if better is possible. Do not forget, James Franklin also won at Vanderbilt. right where he is bad at coaching is in ways that you can't be bad and that people saw on television and by the way Ryan uh did you know that Northwestern is actually four and two no but here's the thing that's one of the great things about college football is no matter what your record is

you're still your program like yes that is it happens to you're still Northwestern those runs It's for Duke. Sylvester Kroom was getting everybody honored in the SEC. But also, those four are over Western Illinois, the old UCLA, whom they only beat by three points. Or it may have been like, yeah,

I think it's the old UCLA. They only beat by three points. Louisiana Monroe. And now this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nah, nah, da, nah, da, da, da, nah. That wasn't going to be that still. They decided it didn't feel good no more.

man. You understand what I'm saying? Like, it didn't feel good anymore. And once it doesn't feel good, people make changes. And what is or is not about feeling good in college sports, it really varies from school to school. So they reached the point where they just wanted something different. I just know, if you set $50 million on fire, firing, your coach who has won a lot of games, even if they weren't always the right ones, you better nail the next hire. I mean nail the next higher. And by the way, in order for you to nail the next hire, it's definitely going to cost you

eight figures to get whoever that coach is to be in line with you yourselves believe that your program is. You are not in a position where you have, I think, the luxury to do what most people should do under circumstances like that at programs like these, which is to find the young up-and-comer who can have that job for 20 years. I have long contended that in the history of this sport, very few have been better at hiring coaches than Oklahoma. And when Oklahoma has gotten it right is you get a coach in the 30s and you ride that thing out. Like you can go look all over, man. That's the formula to try. trying to get it right is to find the guy that's young and in his mid-30s or early 40s,

and that be your guy. Except those guys typically need a couple of years to get their foot and ain't no time for that clearly with this job, right? It's a tricky recruiting job because they call it that pettletucky. You know what I mean? I wouldn't want to go there. The glory days of this program, they didn't want a national championship for 40 years.

You know what I mean? Like what Penn State means to people my age? I don't think it's necessarily the same as it means to like young people. Um, this is. And by the way, you try to come up with money and you just spent out $50 million to fire the coach. Like you have to get this right. And the big part of why you have to get this right is you can't get it wrong. Because if you do get it wrong, you can't afford to fire this next guy. Like you're just going to be able to go past the had to get another $50 million in order to get this done. And they did it. Because the vibes were that bad. Good gracious. We might talk about this more later in the week. I got to move on. Otherwise, this show be three hours. Wow, Ryan, was that 25 minutes? Sure was. Sorry. Didn't mean to do all that. We just got started. We really did. We really did. NFL action this weekend. So, unfortunately, what happened with my Detroit Lions. I didn't go over to my buddy Nick's house to watch because I don't go over there for night games because I'm old. and I'd like to have the luxury of falling asleep on the couch if it comes down to it. And, you know, I really feel like the refs were being a little bit petty, you know,

taking away a little touchdown on the wonderful trick play early to start the game. But it's not a big deal, honestly, that the Lions lost that because I just think the Chiefs, they're going to be just fine. Right. I think the ultimate moral of the story here is they're going to be just fine. If Patrick Mahomes is completing 75% of his passes for about eight yards in a tent, they're going to be fine. And Rishi Rice comes back. And they're getting the guys back.

What's his name? Xavier Worthy is out there doing it, right? Like he ran into Travis Kelsey and that hurt real bad, but they seem to be shaking that off. And they have a real chance for a get right spot next week because they play the Raiders who are bad. They are cheeks. Yeah.

They are cheeks. But no, no, no. The chiefs have pulled this together. It is the Ravens that are the ones who have gone off the cliff. But the chiefs have pulled this together. That is interesting to know that it's good to see all of these things. A couple of things happened yesterday that I found to be interesting. I would typically like to start with the football part, right?

You know, before we get to the things that are just a little bit messy. So, okay, we could do that. I don't know how many of you guys watch the 49ers and the bucks. I watched the 49ers and the bucks. And I went into this game between the 49ers. is end of bucks. And my question was, are either of these teams really good?

Because they've been doing a lot of squeaking by. And I had no answer for whether or not these teams were good. And then I watched them play each other, and they looked like they were as good as each other, which gave me no answer in terms of how good they were as team. I will say, though, as longstanding, long-standing, long-term. established Baker Mayfield skeptic, I kind of need to abandon that position.

Also, Ryan, I watched the Seahawks play the Jaguars earlier, and Sam Darnold is also making it difficult for me to remain on my square about these guys. I mean, at least Sam Darnold has Jackson, Stiff, and Jigba, who's having a month, one of the better receiving seasons in the NFL through six weeks. Yes. Every one of Baker's receivers gets hurt, and he's still out there. chucking the ball. He is. But you know what, I want to give some credit to these receivers because

Baker's not throwing them open. Right. These dudes are running, they were running out there yesterday by themselves because San Francisco, as is their want, is starting to fall apart physically again. That was another part about what's happening with the Lions is, and this seems to be happening to them every year too. This super physical style of play

and then you guys are hurt. Yeah, it's all good to be physical and stuff until you don't have any more safeties. Well, the line between the hammer and the nail is like it's really narrow in the way that these things go. But Baker's getting it.

He is getting it done. He looked like college Baker Mayfield. And for those of you who don't remember what that was, I want to be very clear with you about something. He was that guy. And the big part of him being that guy was, he was as accurate as any conflict to the guy at the agency.

Say it again. We'll take prime Drew Bruce. Yeah. Like has the accuracy, but also could chuck the, ball over the top. With more mobility, right? Like a better ability to get outside the pocket. Like he wasn't Michael Vic. Right. But he could do enough to get it done. And when he got to the league, I always thought that he had like a college level of athleticism to do that stuff,

but not enough to really get it done in the NFL. And no, I mean, right now he looks like that guy. And look, Godwin's hurt. Mike Evans is hurt. The new Ohio State receiver, I can't even use their names anymore. Abuka, I believe, is his name. He's hurt. and he was throwing it to a guy that pre-draft measurable was 154 pounds. Bo Nix's daddy adopted him when they was in high school, and he was a seventh round pick. Like, he's doing it. I don't think there's any way around that.

But I'm going to tell you right now, if they're the team that looks like they're going to wind up with the best record in the NFC, that bodes well for my Detroit Lions, because I just don't, I don't think they got it. Something else also that happened that we ain't really have a chance to talk about because it happened after we did our Friday show. But after the Eagles lost to the Giants and Buddy, I don't know how to explain this here to you. But the local Caucasian population is really excited about this Jackson Dart, Cam Scatterbole sort of thing. Like they're going to be on Saturday Night Live.

I don't think you understand if they can both just be a little. bit competent, just ride it out for the rest of the year. I don't think you understand how much money them boys go make. They like a comedy team. But they also, you know, get Jackson Dart wear a chain and be dancing and scatterbow play running back. You know what I'm saying? Like, you hear me.

But anyway, they came to A.J. Brown and they asked him about that players only meeting that the Eagles had. And A.J. Brown was like, I don't recall. I don't recall no players only meeting. He basically played the fifth. Yeah. But then he explained it. was like, it wasn't a meeting. We just talked in the parking lot.

I gained a lot of respect for A.J. Brown, by the way, in that moment. Because he tried to be cool about it. And then everybody called him a liar. And he had to be like, talking about no meeting. He just talked to the parking lot. What I like about A.J. Brown is he has made his position clear the exact. He has never changed his position on this. All he wants is the ball.

Even if not the ball, it can't be what it is. Yeah. Winning, losing, no matter how successful. What do we have to get better at? Passing. Specifically passing to me. We are not. And he's right.

Yeah, he's not wrong. The big part of his right, but I do love that he is not allowing the results to interfere with his beliefs about the process. Right. It is process over results. Right. This is what it's supposed to be. It's not what we're doing. But when he said, no, dog, all we did was talking to talking to parking lot.

Guys, the Nick Siriani era of the. Eagles is the most up and down thing that I can possibly think of, okay? You have had two seasons where they have gone to a Super Bowl. You have had a season where they won a Super Bowl. You have one season with an epic collapse. And this was after going to the Super Bowl. And then this year where nothing seems to feel good. Everything about them seems to be off. I've never seen a team where this is the way that it goes. And Ryan, I had forgotten about this. In his first year, through nine games,

they were three and six. And you have to remember coming off that first year where he gave the worst opening press. That did happen. So like you're starting with like legitimately looked like a deer in headlights. And then he's been to two Super Bowls. And then whatever is happening this season.

What is it with this team? But it can't be like this all the time. Right. Like every year cannot be an adventure. It can't. And you don't want it where every time somebody toss in front of a microphone, it feels like anything is possible. Speaking of which, I have seen many examples of players getting,

coaches fired. I cannot think of an example where I felt like a player got everybody fired, including himself by what he said to the media, and he didn't do it on purpose. I don't know how many times any of you guys have seen Tuna Tunga Vailoa behind a microphone. But if there's anybody that needs to learn some lessons from Choudua Sanders, it's this young man. He need to get in front of the microphone and just go like this. He just need to turn into, is it Marcel Marceau? Is that the, you know what I'm saying?

The mine? He need to get his ass in the box because him talking is bad news. after this game, this man told everybody and they lost to the charges. By the way, a dignified loss except for the fact that he turned the ball over three times, which he owned, by the way.

Tua got out here talking about how they have players-only meetings and people come late to the players-only meetings and sometimes they know-show the players-only meetings and he's like, we need to decide whether those are mandatory or not or whatever it is. And, Brian, you correct me if I'm wrong, but if the meetings of players only, ain't he the manager?

He's certainly supposed to be. Like, aren't these, he's his, in, what? Why did you tell us that? There's, two ways of learning the, the very hard lesson is, uh, we only want so much honesty. Yes. And like from his comments about, you know, he clearly was not over the Tyreek thing all year. No. That was clearly bothering him.

And then he gets out and he's basically, yeah, we're not run very well. And it starts with leadership. Yes. Here's the thing. It starts with leadership. You're talking about one or two people. Yes. Your boss or three people.

Your boss. Your boss is boss yourself. Correct. And to be fair, I do. think he thinks he's talking a bit about himself. And on one hand, you give him credit for accountability. On the other hand, you smack him upside to head and tell him to be quiet. Everybody has to go. He just basically said, don't nobody listen to me. Don't nobody listen to the coach. And it's the GM that put all these dudes together in the room at one time. Everybody

has to go. This show is being recorded on. Monday morning, it is currently 8.44 a.m. It will not surprise me in the least if by the time you hear this, the coach and the GM are gone and they tell Tua that his hip is too bad to play. Because I don't think he could come back next year. He can't, it can't be this. It can't sound, it can't feel like this, man. This is what I've been trying to explain. if you're not going to be good enough, you got to at least make it not feel terrible. This is what we thought was going on,

at least with Kevin Stefansky, right? Like, I felt like with the Browns, the team was bad, but everybody kind of understood the trick bag they were in, and I thought this DeFansky had done a good job of making it not feel, at least, I mean, I guess you were a Browns fan that don't never feel good, but I thought he had done a decent job

but not making it feel so abjectly terrible. And remember, we were here, and we were talking about on this show, I was surprised that there had not been no heat put on his seat. And Ryan, I owe that man an apology because apparently he's getting a little toasty. That's another person who might be,

by the time you hear this, might not have a job. Yo, everything just feels tight, man. I have a question for you. And we ain't going to make no social video out of this because, you know, it could get weird. But I'm asking this sincerely. You wonder if the times that we live in

are making everybody a little antsy and making them do this stuff? Yes. You know what I mean? The short answer is, do I think that lack? of attention spans and people getting bad news fed to them all the time and wanting to, you know, yes, the short answer is absolutely.

Yo, like, this is, Stephansky, I didn't, what I was saying that, I wasn't saying he should be fired. I didn't heard anything about it, but what the hell is he supposed to do? Like, I have no answers in so many places, but when McDaniel, it's not supposed to look like this. It's not supposed to feel like this. I think my mayor Rod said he looks shorter at every press conference now. Every time he get up there, he looks shorter. Shorter and smaller.

Yeah. He was already up against the fact that that don't look like no football coach. It's tough. Whether it's right or wrong. And let's be honest, he's out here going one in five in Caprius. Yes, this is what I'm saying. Like, he doesn't. You know what that looks like?

the coach of a 1-5 football team. If you want to look like a, you know, like a back-end engineer at one of these tech firms, that's great. But you got to, you know, be around 500. Yeah, no, no, no. They've just completely ruined the vibe. Like, can you imagine being on that team?

No. Yeah. Like, why would you feel like we're about to win any games right now? Like, I felt good for the Cardinals that the Cardinals, because I told you, I wouldn't have been surprised if their season fell apart after that thing happened with Gannon. It did not.

Right. Right. They pulled that together. They did not win the game against the Colts, but they played like a team that still had it together. The Ravens look like a team that's done. Lamar Jackson, no, Lamar Jackson. That's not the point. They look like a team that is cooked.

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situation while he misses the beginning of the year. Bo, what are your thoughts? First of all, things I learned. It is the sciatic nerve and sciatica is an aggravation of the sciatic nerve where I thought that sciatica was simply people mispronouncing sciatic. That is number one. It's never, whenever a player gets an injury you've never heard of, it's not a good sign. Yes. Well, we'll see, number two, that's the thing. I have heard of sciatica. My father, had sciatica when I was younger, but he was 55. Now, maybe young people suffer from sciatica. However, this has got a whiff of DNP old.

Right? This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this feels like DnP old for LeBron. Number three, Ryan Barry didn't say the, the best part. Dave McMinneman came out with a report. And I like Dave, but you need to understand that when Dave covered the Cleveland Cavaliers, LeBron had three guys in the media

that he referred to as his three wives. I think it was McMinneman, Chris Haynes, and Joe Varden. That is no shade to those guys. But LeBron said that in a loud in front of people. And that was 10 years ago, and McMinnetteman moved his life from Cleveland to Los Angeles,

and that was eight years ago. Yeah, it's more like McManumetman moved his life from Los Angeles to Cleveland. And then thank God he didn't have to do that anymore. But anyway, I'm just saying Dave McMinneman is a reporter who has a standing relationship with LeBron. Okay. McMinneman comes out and says, hey man, you got to wonder, right, if LeBron's not going to be out with this sciatica and watching the Lakers, seeing how they perform and then making decisions. about what he's going to do. Nothing no more, man.

He's going to decide if he wants to go somewhere else. You're going to wind up getting traded to Milwaukee. Like, what is, why are you doing this? This isn't, I don't know why he doesn't see. And I mean, look, we all got different interpretations of what we want to do or whatever. But the only thing LeBron James needs to be thinking about as far as I'm concerned, is retiring as a Los Angeles Laker, right? And on one hand, I admire

athletes who don't care about going outside, right? Like, you are a competitor and you just want to keep going until you can't and you are willing to look bad. Like, you are not embarrassed by being out here looking bad. On one hand, I get that. And there, like, it's truly a respect to be had for it. But the only way for a man in LeBron's position to guarantee that he don't go outside, saying is to announce before a season, you go and do your tour and just go on about your business, right? This approach is not the way to wind down your career. Like, I don't, I don't know, I don't think this is going to play the way that he wants it to play. That I'm going to find another team to play for. No, man, there's no, there's nowhere else to go. The idea to me that

there's going to be some team that's going to give up the world for a man that's got a sciatica and is going to turn 41 years old in December and is in his 23rd year in the NBA. How much are you willing to give up to pay LeBron James $50 million a year? Especially, and this is not even accounting for how much harder it is to make these trades now. Yes, yes. The rules like if you, like, LeBron James is not going to, let's say, the Charlotte Hornets, right? So it's teams that are, you know, have a better chance to theoretically win the title

than the Lakers and can pull off the move. And that list is a short list. Well, he's aged out of defense, number one. And number two, part of why Bill Belichick doesn't have a job in the NFL is that if you were going to bring Bill Belichick in, you got to turn the whole thing over, right? Like, that's what Carolina did when Bill Belichick was there. Clearly the terrible results. But you had to be willing to turn the whole thing over.

You don't have to turn the whole thing over for LeBron, but you're turning a lot over for LeBron. Like, to make it worth it for you to get LeBron, you got to have something already going. Can LeBron just fit in to whatever it is? These are the things you have to ask yourself. Like I don't have to answer for that necessarily, but you have to ask this. And putting out the word of maybe I'll want to go somewhere else,

brother, they don't care. It is Lukatai over there. I don't think they ever liked you that much in the first place. They don't care. Just put some tussing on it. and hope you get better. That's, that's, that's, that's it. That's what you got.

All right. On Friday, a judge dismissed Drake's defamation lawsuit against UMG and Kendrick Lamar. The judge ruled that Lamar's lyrics watched accused Drake and his associates of being certified pedophiles were non-actual opinion and not considered defamatory. Blow your thoughts. The judge basically told him it was a rap battle. foe. Like that's that's, can this finally be over now?

You know, like, I've had enough. It was a good time. It was a fun year. It was a great time. It was a great year. And we are already in like into month 18. Right. Now, no, no, no, no.

It's been real. It's, it's, it's, please let it be over. Like for Drake, this is, I don't, I don't know. It's over. For him, it's a different kind of over. Right.

That I think we all would have to agree with. It's a different kind of over. But I will tell you this, I do miss that beef. And for no other reason, their rap was really exciting. You know what gets people excited now? A Mob Deep album just came out. Now, granted, maybe that's just the excitement of people my age, right? Maybe the youngsters have things that they're excited about that I don't know anything about.

But, man, give me something, baby. Give me something. You know what? I would take a classic Drake album now. I think that, do you think that's on the table? You think that's over? Hell no. Hell no.

I mean, look, I just said that. I said I'd take one if we had it. Talk about some people who are about to turn 40. Yeah, I don't participate in that behavior. That's a thing. He turns 40 this month and next year. This month next year. And I just feel like he has no idea.

I can't imagine how lost in the wilderness. he is right now. All right. And finally, Rolling Stone listed their top 250 songs of the century so far, number one. Missy Elliott,

get your freak on. But what did you think of this list? I mean, I didn't look at the list, to be honest, because I knew all I saw was that was number one. I didn't know people like that,

cared that much about that song. Same. That was what struck me. Like, it's a good song. Like, I understand its charm and appeal, but also I admit

I look at Missy Elliott and like all the music that Missy and Timberland circle did like maybe yeah like that circle of people I view their music not everything Timberland did like things Timberland did for other people I view

differently than this but like Missy in Timberland and Magoo I view that music is very particular to the era that it was in I didn't I don't think of that is enduring last thing like get your freak card is like, oh, something you put in a commercial. You know what I mean? But I never, I never looked at that or thought of that as the kind of music that you put on the top of a list like this.

I just wanted to put this topic in here. So everybody knows and the people who know me know what I am going to say. There is no doubt for me that the best song of the 21st century is the greatest single in the history of rap music. and it is Outcast, B-O-B, heartstop. All right, Bo, we've opened up the voicemail line. Another couple of good ones. Here's our first. Bo, I'm calling from Houston, and I just got to ask,

at what time did you know it was time to bring it all home? Because I'm looking in the mirror right now, and I'm debating it. Big fan of the show, man. I appreciate it. Thanks. All right, so I was 32. and I was living in North Carolina. And it was becoming pretty clear to me

that my days were numbered and I should probably come home. I used to be able to go two weeks in between haircuts and then I had to start going one week in between haircuts because at the temples I could really only grow a week's worth. Right? And so then it would get around it and it wasn't really like doing the thing.

But you know what? I ain't want to come home. I wanted to stay out. I was having a good time because I knew that once you was home, you couldn't really come back outside. So I was okay with it. I fully decided to come home

when I moved to Miami and I realized that I was going to have to find a new barbershop which meant that I was probably going to have to listen to a lot of really stupid barbershop conversation and that somebody was eventually going to recognize me from the television and make it even worse. And so I didn't want to go to the barbershop no more. So I came home.

I also came to understand that in Miami is a good chance that your barber could be from one of the Miami countries. But used the N-word as though he was from Miami Gardens. And I didn't want to participate in that game. I did not, I didn't, Miami. It was the, our Latino brothers in Miami is a little loose with it. When I say our Latino brothers, I don't mean the ones, like, I ain't talking about the white Cubans, right? I'm talking about the Puerto Rican, Dominican, Colombian, Venezuelan type situation.

Man, I don't know who told them that they was allowed, but it was a whole lot of them, which made it very difficult to just be like, okay, I'm going to take this all my, now I'm just not going to do this. I'm just not going to come to the barbershop. Yeah, it would be a lot, especially every week. Yes. That transitions very surprisingly well into this next one. What's good, Beaumani?

This is J.D. from Boston. I heard you were having a homie have a Brian on and wanted to get y'all thoughts on this thing. So when I was a shoddy, my go-to-order at the ice cream truck was vanilla cone with jimmies. So vanilla self-serve ice cream cone, chile. chocolate sprinkles. That was the odor. You say jimmies in Boston, or Massachusetts folks know what you're talking about.

So as an older man, I got curious and wondered, what are jimmies? What is the term derived from? So I spoke to my grandfather about it, and what he shared with me is that jimmies referred to black folks.

If you think about my order, it's this white entity, my vanilla ice cream, with chocolate sprinkles. Fast forward, 2025 are going to the ice cream spot on the board chocolate jimmies so just curious if you know Mahoney Howard has come across this or you've come across this or you know is it just that boss that is uniquely racist which it's likely that peace look I try to be careful about these

things we will ask Howard about the chocolate jimmies Ryan might need you to just send him to voicemail so he could give his answer oh yeah I forward it along but uh if you're asking me, Boston is uniquely racist, is always the odds-on favorite. And I contend Boston is not necessarily that much more racist than other places, but it is more aggressively racist than most places. And they are far more willing to fight. All right, Bo, here's our last one. Hey, what's up, Bo?

What's up, Ryan? and it's CB from Brooklyn. Something came across my radar this morning that kind of threw my day off. And it was Dan Wetzel talking about how John Calapari and others are going to start getting booster insurance, which as a lifelong college football fan and just a fan of sports in general, sounds absolutely insane to me. So the boosters will be able to get insurance on the NIL deals that they're paying out to players, et cetera. I believe Lloyd's of London is back in this.

But to me, this kind of sounds like getting itemized receipts from prostitute. I thought y'all were in this for the experience, not for the ability to go back, get your money back, et cetera. So we'd love to hear, you know, what you think about it, if you think this is the way things should be going. Or to quote, Michael Irvin, we're losing recipes. Thanks, both. Ryan, I think we need to book Dan Wetzel. I had no idea that this existed. And then I look it up and I'm like, this is the quote from Cal,

what if we had just given him a million dollars, then he got injured and was lost for the season? What were the person who gave that million dollars feel? How would you go back to that person and ask for more money? So we talk about private equity. We try, I am, wow. Right now this is hilarious, so perhaps it could be fun. But I do love the idea of a booster,

try to come to the player and get his buddy back. Yeah, like, that's a 90-day guarantee. It's a warranty. But the problem with this to me is the idea of the booster insurance is interesting, but what it's also going to require is like some medical invasiveness. Right. About the players, right? Like, what are the terms?

How hard are you really? Yeah. Yeah, how exactly does this work? But what it is is somebody came up and was like, oh, I got an idea for something. and sell people. And then they came in wit. Let's see how claimable these policies are. Right?

Good luck trying to get your money back on your, your tricking insurance. From 19-year-old college basketball players. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck, Tommy. I promise you as soon as they get that money, that money is, I don't know where it's going, but it's not coming back to you.

Oh, yeah, yeah, no. That's it. So you think this insurance company is going to be paying out on these policies. Yeah. Like, can you imagine how fine the fine print is on this? Come on. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on The Right Time.

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