The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Jason Goff on LeBron's disappointing end with Lakers, A.J Brown-Eagles drama, Shedeur Browns QB 1? | 02.25

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Bomani Jones is joined by the Ringer's Jason Goff. First, they discuss how both Luka Doncic & LeBron James have had disappointing careers with the Los Angeles Lakers and what's next for both superstars. Later, they discuss Victor Wembanyama's ability to destroy the NBA & AJ Brown's unhappiness with the Philadelphia Eagles. Finally, they discuss the potential QB "competition" between Deshaun Watson & Shedeur Sanders for the Cleveland Browns. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is that time of week where we have a guest join us.

Check him out at the Ranga. Check him out at the athletic. That boy get all the money from all the places. Jason Golf was going on. What's happening, brother? Good to see. Good to talk to you. Always checking out all your stuff.

It's been a nice lead into, you know, non-football. Like, you know, I'm enjoying a rap series. How Brian is always amazing. Like, I'm a big consumer of the content, brother. I appreciate that, man, because it's, look, you know, it's bad for them to, like, complain to the audience about how hard your job is. And it's not that the job is going to be hard for these next few months. It's just not going to be as easy as it used to be.

Right. Like, like, this is when we, this is when we separate that but a soft shit for, from the level on the Fons, right? Like, this is, it's that time of year. And you know it's that time of year, because this is how we're going to start this? I'm going to ask you to pick a number between one and 10 and the number you choose determines which old people we're going to talk about.

Let's go seven. Seven. Seven is an odd number. And I had decided that for odd numbers, we was going to discuss what happened in that game with DeLay, and the Magic on Tuesday night where, I mean, look, the Lakers are an interesting situation because they are not as good as their record, right? Like, you don't have to watch them much to recognize that.

You can look at the point scored versus points allowed that they have, and you can recognize this, right? The other thing that is interesting about them, and this is something I've said about him. I said this is also going to be the case with Carl and Anthony Towns, though I thought, look, this year is going to be as close as Luca Dodge's MVP was a lot. ever going to be, right? Like, we know how it goes. They ran your name down in the streets. They said you was lazy. He said you was fat.

All of that, right? He came back. He's not fat, but he do be whining. And that was that when Brian Winhorse did the thing about, you down there, that's where the winners are. That's not where you at, right? He computes himself like a loser during basketball games. He does all the whining. And I don't think that that many people pay that much attention

to Dallas Mavericks basketball. As a result, they didn't give that much attention to his behavior. There was just kind of a recognition of it. Because, you know, they'd be trying to let him slide for everything. Of course, of course. I mean, italics. They. So now he's with the Lakers.

People are looking a little bit more. That fact that you don't play defense, especially since they got another one of you. And he's from this country. And he don't play no defense either, right? your three best players don't play defense and you be whining all the time and then at the end of this game he hit lebron with what they called in the NBA a grenade you heard that before by the grenade and so what the grenade is is when it's thought of what it's late in the shot clock and this is such an

NBA thing when it's late in the shot like you just been dribbling dribbling dribbling and then you throw that hot potato to somebody and now they got to throw it up and the reason that it's a problem for that person is not because it's late to shot clock is because you go mess up a field goal percentage and that shit costs money. Right? Like that's a very NBA phenomenon which is the grenade.

But he threw the grenade to LeBron at the end of the game. Like you had a shot. You didn't take the shot. LeBron had to shoot a turnaround three-pointer. What are you doing? So it's not only the first. field goal percentage stuff.

But like you mentioned, the moment, it made me immediately think of my man, Sam Mitchell, who so many times than sitting and talking basketball all in the air and off the air when I was in Atlanta, Sam were talking about things, and then we get off the air. And he mentioned one time about Reggie Miller,

and he goes, go back and look at some of those games with me and Reggie. For three quarters, you ain't passed me this bitch the entire game. And now, all of a sudden, with four seconds left on the shot clock, the best player on the move the ball, nope, take that bitch right back.

Right? And in that moment, I think Luca knew, too. Like, Luca knows the history of the game. Luca has said LeBron James is one of his favorite, if not the most favorite player that he has ever witnessed, played basketball in his life. So that's his guy. He know that LeBron needs some of these game winners, too. I ain't got the shot. And the bad part is he had to step back and had the separation to put the shot up. He had it, right? So when you throw that thing with LeBron and it's like, all right, here's a moment where I know I'm not going to get it back because, you know, LeBron wants some glory at all times too, but the angle of the shots, the moment,

his feet wasn't gathered. LeBron's been all game in the corner. All of a sudden, you want me on the wing shooting this three? Nah, man. And like you mentioned, it's a team with no thumbs, dog. And that record, do with it what you want. But when they come down to when you got to hit good pitching in the playoffs, like ones and twos, that's what it is.

they don't lose to the number four starter. You know what I mean? Like, you can get to the playoffs in baseball by battering fourth and fifth starters. But playoffs only got ones, two, and threes. And you're going to get there. You're going to get there and some young boys going, hey, for the next 11 days, I got you. And I got a name to make.

Man, playing for that team is so wild because the LeBron situation, as it relates to, I mean, I think we all understand this is his last year with the Lakers. There's no, there's no scenario under which he can come back. I don't see a financial scenario under which this can happen. There's the unavoidable point that when he and Luca are on the floor together as a team, they are terrible. It just doesn't work. Like, I don't say that as an indictment of either player.

That just works out like that sometimes. Like those two guys can't play together. But they got to work out this whole year. If LeBron James was anybody else, they would have traded him by now, right? I think we talked about this on the show before. Anybody else, you're just like, hey, man, this one here ain't really a good fit. Let's just see what else we could get. I honestly don't know why any other team, this is kind of like when Barry Bonds got old.

Like, you're still really good, man, but now I don't think that's best for us. Did you say it were to squeeze? Yeah, yeah, yeah, for a number of reasons. But they hit LeBron after the game, but now LeBron's like, hey, man. thought he had shot. But I guess he was off balance. I know I was off balance. And LeBron is in this stage where, let's face it,

there have been moments where we said, does he want to be the guy? And he's been the guy. Don't get it twisted. Like, he has carried franchises on his back. It's been a long, long time. But it's also been a long time since he could honestly be like, I'm not the best play on the team, even in his head.

Like the Anthony Davis bubble run, like Anthony was out there doing things where it's like, this is why you're the number one picked. This is what everyone saw in you. And there was still some, hey, LeBron's still cold. Yes. Now it's like, you the dude. They traded for you.

They don't want to go get Mark Williams for me, all these other things. And on top of it, I can kind of, you know, slink on out of it. I don't know, man. You said it a lot about staying too long at the club. And I wasn't around to see, you know, OJ as a 49er or Willie May. Frank O'Harris with the Seahawls. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, we saw Jerry at the end there with Derraders and that kind of vibe, right?

But when you see players who are, you don't remember them as anything but great kind of go out like this. Like, as you, do you want to see LeBron running around Milwaukee? Right. Like, the sentimentality. Yeah. He should play as long as he wants to play, right? Like, that's like, it's not, it's not for me to say. he should play as long as it is that he wants to play.

But what I will always remember about Jerry Rice with the Raiders is not, and that wasn't his last stop. He had two more stops. Seattle and Denver, right? Seattle and Denver, right? But what I will always remember, it is not that Jerry Rice played for the Raiders. It is not that Jerry Rice had a season with 90-something catches

and 1,000-something yards with the Raiders. You know what I'm going to say? I'll always remember. And man had braids when he did not have hair. Nobody has ever been more dedicated to hold it all to their youth than Jerry Rice was at the end. Because they had to be extensions in that shit too. He had a straight back. He had the Clarkson?

Yeah, man, my whole boy, Kurt. My boy, Kurt referred to that as the black man's comb over. He was absolutely correct. Like, you don't have the hair to keep this up. But you're just going to keep on trying. Jerry had to twist full of. little while. And let's not forget, man, Jerry from somewhere in Mississippi. You know what I'm saying? Like, like this ain't, it was in San Francisco. Like, he wasn't like he was down there in

Miami with them boys and nothing like that. Jerry Rice was holding on the youth harder than anybody ever had. And I feel like that, like, I don't feel like LeBron is doing that exactly, but it does feel a whole lot like after all this time and all these ventures, the man built a school, the man started a production company. He still don't know what the hell to do with himself. So he's just going to keep all playing basketball. And the only thing that he has left and the thing that we haven't seen because of just the physical marvel that he's been is the injury. Like the, uh-oh, this is going to be a year or a half a year or the end of your career injury. Like

and, and no, for the time. Like, all you're doing is running up against that as much as you possibly can missing the games to start at the beginning of this season. Like, I, I wonder. if his career, like, how do you think 20 years from now he will be talked about, right? Like, we've seen what's happened with Iverson, we've seen, you know, obviously posthumously with Kobe and what's happened with Mike, right? And how careers kind of bloom or how they kind of shrivel because how people feel about you and they could actually get that shit off when you're not in the league anymore. How do you think this is going to go?

Because I think he's still going to be the guy for the post-Jordan general. right like i think that eventually who knows what media is going to be but the kids who grew up as lebron james stands eventually become the people who write and talk about basketball and then they canonize the heroes of their youth in large part i think the part that's going to be interesting about what it is for him after this point in his career is i think the idea and the plan for him was that he was going to retire a laker right like that was going he was going to like will chamberland is a Philly guy. It was a Philadelphia War. He was a Philadelphia 76er, but he retired to Laker, you know, like he stayed in L.A. He became a part of L.A. I would assume that the

Lakers probably would build a statue of LeBron just because he's the all-time leading score. He will have played there for all that time. But they don't owe him one, right? Like, this isn't Kareem. This isn't Pat Riley. This tenure has, I would argue, fallen short of expectation. So what I think he's going to really lean in on is he is going to be a Cleveland Cavalier, right? That's going to be, I think Cleveland's going to be for him, like what San Francisco was for Barry Bonds, which is you always got a home. You always got the place to go. And I think he's going to live in L.A., right? I think he still wants to be part of that infrastructure.

But Cleveland is going to be the place. I mean, you think it's a coincidence that the 75th anniversary, All-Star Game with the 75 players? Is in Cleveland with LeBron James? And I'm saying it might have been a coincidence just to be clear. There's a perfect one. Felt pretty tidy. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And even when you say that the people who are the LeBron stands who grew up are now the ones of getting ready to write about his career or, you know, tell stories about his career, there's a major. Like I still to this day think the basketball guys robbed us of having that dude in the Eastern Conference and Kobe in the Western Conference for all that. on and not colliding. But with Kobe's passing

and also the legend of Kobe at the end of his career that bloomed even more, there's a lot of dudes, LeBron's contemporaries and younger, who had that Kobe dent in there where it's going to be like, yeah, we're going to talk, yeah, you might think you the best

post-Jordan, but because in death, it's got that like Biggie Pock's field, well, Biggie, especially to me, where it's like, in death, Kobe has been putting these conversations where we talk about top fives that I was like, hey man, you know, Kobe, Kobe was

amazing and Kobe threatened to put 81 on me in the locker room once because I asked him about his finger and people going at it. So it's like he was that dude, but in death and also with the dislike of LeBron James and social media being what it is, there's been that

he's never had that gliding moment of everybody understands and is on the same page that some of these other stars had, whether it be with Steph, whether it be the Derek Rose couple of years. Well, Kobe had to come back around to it, though, right? Like Kobe, Kobe had lost to people in, and obviously, and then death, that's a longer discussion for a different day.

But, you know, but Kobe had to, had to, in his way, come back into it. The other part that'll be interesting for LeBron is Michael Jordan is, Michael Jordan is still a relatively young man. So he gets, like, the Joe DiMaggio greatest footballer treatment. It's still winning shit, by the way. He still is. He still is. Just bumping in the winds.

Like, yeah, okay, Teton, I'll do this. Hey, look, man, Mike is like, I need to, I, everything, he is addicted to competition. Well, he's like, I do not have a gambling problem. I have a competition problem. That is correct, right? That sounds like an excuse. But that is, I just can't imagine just what it's like being around Michael Jordan all time, trying to bet on everything.

Hey, listen, I, I've, uh, I've had people who have hosted him in car games. where it's like, oh, no, no, the car game ain't over until Michael say everybody is tired because Michael going to try to beat you out your buddy, win whatever money he lost, and then try to embarrass you. So that's going to be a good eight, ten hours. So, you know, buckle up, buckle up. Like, the competition thing, too, like, the frame and the lens of all these things post-Jordan, and I think about it quite often, like, you mentioned the Rings culture

in talking about enjoying the NBA. The post-Cobie, post-Jordan, that's the archetype for the kind of killer that you want on a team, has taken away some of the enjoyment that I think even LeBron would have. Think of LeBron if Mike loses one of those finals or if Kobe doesn't have the run that he had

while LeBron was in the league. Yeah, at the end, too, especially. like we're talking we talk we talk favorably about really cool careers in a way that we just don't do anymore you mentioned lucca and and how people have kind of got adjusted to his game and kind of had to reshape it because he's that dude james hardin if james hardin was doing this in the 80s we refer to him the way we do with you know the alex ingelsons and the adrian dantleys of the world and cats who like they didn't win but i'll be damned if they didn't entertain the shit out of him for 15 even the bad teams like i remember watching Dallas like, hey, I know this team ain't going to win them, but

Rolando Blackman is going to put 30 on your ass at some point, you know, in this week. Like those, those enjoyment levels, you know, post those two guys. I'm not saying, you know, blaming those two guys, but post those two dudes and inside of this career, it's been a crazy, like, way to map out this Venn diagram of who really, like, how much do you like basketball, how much do you like lore, and also where do you want to find your entertainment at? Well, it's going to be also, and I think it's a great point. And it's going to be very interesting to watch how that plays out as the years ago

because I think we are in an era now that is most reminiscent of the 1970s, which is the dynasty free era of basketball. Like we're not going to see, I don't think we're going to see guys winning four, five championships. They've done everything they can to make it such that it would not work that way. Like, it's entirely possible. Are you cool with that?

Do you need somebody to? I like the dynasty saga. Right? I prefer the dynasty saga. I also think, though, in terms of the ways that we evaluate players and think about who's who and what's what, we're going to need to recalibrate that, like, the likelihood that there's anybody else that gets four rings, five rings, six rings. Forget about like, we've acknowledged nobody's going to get 11 like Russell because it's just a different game, right? The Sam Jones 8.

Like, we just know it's not going to be like that again, right? And so we don't, very few of us say Michael Jordan will never be as good as Bill Russell because Bill Russell has 11 rings, right? Look, you can take it further. Bill Russell never lost the game seven. That is the, right? That is an insane stat. But we change the ways that we evaluate these things. LeBron is probably going to go down as the last superstar of the era where you could rack up four rings.

But I guess Steph Curry is right there with him. Right. But after those two guys. Yeah. Yeah. And all the people, see, that's why this. Oklahoma City thing is so interesting. And San Antonio being where they're at because the league has pretty much told you draft and develop.

But by the way, you're not going to be able to pay everybody to draft and develop. And now, you know, you're going to be looking at it. All right, so is Dylan Harper more valuable than Devin Bissell or is Deereon Foxx too long in the tooth? And we're talking about a window that's just opening here for that San Antonio squad. I've always appreciated premium product and having something that is the market. of excellence and everybody's shooting for that. You know, and the NBA that we kind of grew up in where, you know, the 90s Bulls, the 80s Celtics and Lakers, the late 80s Pistons, where it's like, all right, you know,

put your model together. And this is when they had different styles and the game wasn't so homogenized in a way that we watch it, strategy-wise. But like, put your crew together. And we're going to figure out if they better than Sally and Lambert and Mohorn and Rodman, like that front-world. And you're going to see them year out. after year after year.

They go, we're going to make some, we're going to make some tweaks. It's going to be some changes, but it's going to be the same. Why am I jumping here? Yeah, yeah, right? But it's going to be insane. Like, like, don't get a twist. You're going to know who it is. Like, that's why it's been a great time watching this Pistons Nick situation, right?

Real beef. Yeah, thunder spurs. Right? Because look, here's the thing about this era. And this is where this Victor thing is going to get crazy. I don't know how much is going to matter who these other people are that you put around Victor. Like, he's the one that got a chance. He's the one that has the chance to be the one guy

that can hold this all the way down. I have been, I've been so intrigued with people not being as awestruck as I am. Like, you know, the show Aeotani thing

that's happening in the baseball, like, for whatever reason, people have become like numb to the shit that he is doing. I feel like on the wimby side, it's like, it's less people. And these, the tallest people in the world. And he is making them look silly. Like, he's hitting them with this right here. Everything. Everything. Everything. Everything. Like, pull up threes. Like, there's, there's no part of his game where you're like, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, a seven foot six guy shouldn't be able to dribble. No, he's doing that. He's taking off from the nail. The nail is where the most important

defender usually has to be in the NBA. And he's like, guess what, guys? My arm, if I just read from the nail, I got a finger roll. Right? Like, I am, I, like, we play around. Like, I don't know what it was to watch Jim Brown on a lacrosse field. You feel like, I don't know the first time Wayne Gretzky hit ice as a kid where people like, no, this shit shouldn't be happening.

That's how I feel when I watch Wemby, where I'm like, if he having a bad night is only going to dictate if you're going to have a good night. Hey, John Henson, went to Carolina, played with Milwaukee Bucks, a few other cats. I love that guy. I haven't told John to admit him, but love that guy. He said a tweet the other day where he said he asked Harrison Bards, how Victor was looking at us, pick up runs during the summer.

This is Harrison Barnes response. I'm going to look up something right fast as I, as I'm prepared to give this to you. Harrison Barnes response. So John Hinton, when he asked him how he looked in the summer league runs, was, I quote, like wilt. Hey, Harris or Bards is 33 years old. Right.

Okay. And the reference is Wilt. He had to pull out. Is Wilt. Was Wilt. Was Wilt Chamberl. Let me explain something very important about Will. As like ESPN and Sports Talk Radio and everything has come into the discussion about who are the best players.

It's kind of like we wound up with this world where everybody had Biggie in Pockes. They top two MCs where it was actually prior to this a much. richer discussion of who is there. And there are lots of criticisms to be made of Will Chamberlain and his quote unquote Will to Win and all of that stuff. But it's a whole lot of bit of that time that is still like nobody was better than that dude. There's no, no, like the idea that anybody gets compared to Will.

I watched that Wilk, Dr. Kevin Garnett produced on Showtime. And the closest I saw to that was Janus. but Wilk wasn't even doing this stuff that this cat is out here doing. No, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the wayma thing is it, for me, if you, if you want to tell me that he is not only the best player in the league right now, but barring injury will be for the next 10 years. And on top of it, we're talking about some of the greatest talent. Like, say what you want about basketball IQ. Obviously, guys are doing drill work, not enough five on five. being played. You see it out there all the time

with guys just don't know how to play with each other. But if you want to tell me that that cat against the dudes that he's running up against now with modified defenses and all the nerds in the front office saying this is where this person likes to shoot from, keep him off of this, you can't keep him off at any spot.

On a night that he really want to find people, he's going to get you six, seven assists if you hit some shots. And then the gravity that he has. Like the reason why a lot of injuries we see happening around the NBA, because do you start to pick and roll damn near half court. I got a straight shot, bullet speed, downhill at you.

This dude is doing those things. They have the gall to be running pick and roll where he's the ball handler. Like when I saw DeMar Johnson in Cincinnati, when he was 6, 9, 610 shooting two guard, I'm like, oh, this is what they make him. And DeMar John, bad crash had the neck incident, like, never really. took off the way that I thought his talent would blot. But man, that's 16. Like, this don't be in jumpball situations.

He's seven inches solid than DeVar Johnson. Don't. Don't. Don't got a one of a jump shot. Like, when the whole, when Shaq said the thing about bowl bowl, I was like, why would you put like all this entire year where all these so-called NFL people were putting Shadour Sanders in a bad spot by just saying things that just shouldn't be said, like let him work through it?

Why would you ever say, you know what? I see the same skill set and bowl bowl, guess what, fam? Guess who the responsibilities have been handed over to. Not bowl bowl. This man running kick and roll. Top of the key, pick and roll. He's in the corner for a spot up three if you need him.

Nothing is happening in the paint. People's two point percentages plummet, not by three, four. We're talking 11 percentage points defensively. And you're an economist. Do you know when some shit changes minus 11? That is the great depression of offense in that paint. No, I don't think people understand what we watch.

Imagine, like, what's the scouting report look like? Because like, you know, Gilbert Rees to talk about this all the time. Like, his thing about Iverson was he was the whole scouting report. Like, there was no question about anybody else. The whole scout report was what we're going to do with Alan Iverson. So what is your scouting report about when the spurs are on defense? head on swivel.

Yeah. That's it. That's it. And you can lie to your bigs. Like, it's a lot of lies in the Scott Report. Like, do your work early. Beat them down the court and get physical with him. That man is two steps from half court to the rim.

What are we talk about beat them early? You get me? These are mere more, these are the, when you see a six, eight basketball player walking to a restaurant, the presence that that person comes in with is, you know, it's a thing, right? Them dudes walk in and you're like, oh, they don't make them

like this, right? It's the reason why Dustin Bidroyo winning an MVP in baseball is like, oh, it's the ever-man sport. That's the one can be, he can be, you know,

you can be my electrician. Good for you. A 6-8 dude is looking at Victor Wimbenyama like, I don't know what to do with this. And that's the prototype

in the league. 6-8 wing, you get you some 6-8 wings, you're cooking with gas. Rui-Hachamora is looking at at Victor Wimbeniama like, for what? For what?

For what? What you want me to do? You want your hedge? You spend your whole off season working all up fakes. Yeah. That's your only move. It's a head faked. That's just doing this summer.

Except this motherfucker. I don't even actually have to jump to pitch your shit. He just does that for the exercise. Wait till he get mad. Like, we wait. But I'm talking about the bump your head in the playoffs, mad. Because this don't happen this year. There's going to be some shit where, you know,

somebody don't show up or he has a game where he ain't shooting well. There's going to be some weird game five where all these referendums come out. Victor was seven for 19 with only six blocks and it. And watch what I tell you. If that man went to go visit monks when people was like, hey, man, you're a fashion icon. You're bringing back French basketball. Y'all going to win a gold medal here soon. And you are going to be the face of the league where you're recreating what the audience in an NBA arena looks like to make it more adaptive to what

happens overseas. Like, wait till he get pissed and have that Magic Johnson, you know, you know, tragic Johnson situation where you go cry for a couple of months and you come back on a rampage.

Hold on though. That was what the Olympics was last, it was in 24. I think it was a taste. You know what? I think that's fair. Because he did the gravy taste. That one's going to bear fruit in four years.

I am terrified. Enjoy yourselves. It's going to be that red, red, white, and blue is cool, but that blue blonde rouge. Blue Blanc Rouge is, you know how salty he got to be. Cooper flag, who else? All these freshmen that's in. Chuck going to be on that team and you know how he feel about

Chet. There's nothing worse than when somebody got beef with you and you, you're like, I don't, I don't want this. Like, why are we doing this? Right, right. And I think, and I think Chet started with, I got, oh no, Chet started with I got beef back. And then I think the futility of it has become clear.

Yeah. That's a, oh, no, no, I wasn't talking about like he didn't reply. I'm talking about the, the resignation. I mean, come on, down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, at first you remember, hey, there's somebody tougher than you at all times. But you got to remember is that Chet's older than him. So they've been playing against each other all these years.

And what that means is at some point there was a passing that took place. And so Chet probably was able to bully him at a point. And that point is over. and he got the whole squad hating Chet. He hates Chet that much. You know this, man. He out here going to hang out with the monks, chatting the videos with the backward hat

and the money side on the chain. You know he ain't about him. That Oklahoma City run, and we talked about it a couple of times during the finals where that team, I don't know, and it's the old head in me, you know, tap my Bluetooth, barbecue sandals is wearing old head in me, right?

I sat there and saw myself, rooting for Ben Shepard and Benedict Matherin and Tyrese Halliburton. Like that Oklahoma City Thunder team, for some, is an easy team to be like, you know what, y'all cold as hell. But, you know, y'all, there's something. There's something there. Like, y'all was them kids in high school, right? And Victor don't know nothing about any of y'all

Americanized ways. He hit a kick y'all out. I knew, I knew hell was coming when a few World Cups ago, I saw Killian Mbapé for the first time. And I was like, wait, when the French squad going to come out here? I was like, oh, shout out to colonization. Yeah, France decided to start treating soccer like America did with basketball. Like, do you want to see yourself or you want to see some, some,

you want to be a guy? Gagne, I believe, is the word. A bunch of continents. Yeah, you start doing it. There we go. There we go. There we go. They still mine and still harvest.

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Meet your match on ZipRecruiter. All right, we are back with Jason Gough. I keep seeing people talk about how the Eagles, they must be tied to A.J. Brown, and so they need to trade A.J. Brown. I don't know about you, but I don't know if you have ever been in a place where you work somewhere and you said that it was a problem and everybody knew it was a problem. But now, and you are better at what you do than the problem.

But rather than do something about the problem, they decide that you're the problem for saying that there's a problem. and that saying that there's a problem is what is actually the problem, even though everybody knows that the problem is a problem, but you're the problem for saying something about the problem. I feel like that's what they're saying about A.J. Brown, and I feel like that is loser behavior. It's been such a weird story track where we've been programmed,

and even with the words, right, like diva. And, you know, there's a lot of coded language when we talk about Y receivers and how far they are away from the line of scrimmage and how dependent they are and the psychoanalysis of the Y receiver position that every once in a while, they say some things where it's like,

oh, yeah, dumb the boys that's going to say it, if anything. And sometimes you got to listen. The problem I think that has occurred is, one, Jalen is, he's performed. in some huge moments. He has. That it bought him enough of this space and enough of this room. And we're still running around like, you know, half the quarterbacks in the league

ain't black anymore. So any time a brother is accosted, even if it's by another brother. But here's the thing. But the other brothers are more likely to accost the brother. That is an important detail of this. But here's the thing, right? Yeah. But you tell me, you tell me if I'm tripping here.

You're right. Jalen Hertz has performed in those moments. But I think we generally agree that he is the limiting factor of the offense, right? He was the limiting factor at two colleges. He is the limiting factor here with this offense. But he is an intractable, it's intractable situation with him. Right? Like there's, he's, he's the quarterback guys.

He's a quarterback now. He's going to be the quarterback. And that is why A.J. Brown is the problem for saying that the problem is the problem. And they can't quite solve the problem. So all they can do is try to get themselves some peace. The thing is, if they trade him, it's $43 million worth of dead money. All of that for me is to say, he's going to goddamn, where are you going to be right back there next year?

Yeah. And on top of all that, like, I think people, we're in a different time where wide receivers become more available and ready to play in a draft than they have in, I think, a long time. I remember the days where, like, the Rod Gardner's in the world, and Javon Walker and David Thorell, and you're looking at guys who put up big numbers in college. You're like, all right, I don't know if this guy's going to be cold or not on the next level because for whatever reason, certain things didn't translate. Like now you got cats who are getting like running back status in terms of drafting where it's like, oh, go get one fourth, fifth round. You know, Pookin to cool, cold. Like Cooper Cup had a terrific run out of Eastern Washington.

I mean, yeah, you got anybody. I mean, DeVos and the third round pick. Right, right. Antonio Brown, seventh round pick. Right. So I think they might be thinking, too, you know, put a little pressure on you to shut up. We can move you and go do whatever we need to do if we have to go get a wide receiver of less repute, but...

They ain't about to be eaten no $43 million. They can't. And also, if you're AJ, like, this shows you how committed, and in a real value way to me, this shows you how committed he is and how much he,

I think he truly wants to win. He just thinks, hey, and he's right, give me the ball, we're going to win more. If he was quiet about this, right? If he didn't say anything, like say this year he goes on a fool,

you know, I'm going to abstain from saying anything about the offense. and they perform the same way. Won't it be as loud? Now that you've already set this ground, you know what I mean? Now that you then open up a couple of books on the sideline,

which still, to me, is the wildest shit. All the time. Like, in certain sections being that passive-aggressive, you're going to have to knock a. But the fact that he is A.J. Brown in an Eagles locker room and nobody did it show you how tough

that my longer truly is. The fact that A.J. Brown has already laid this groundwork right? And even in the quotes, like, Devante Smith don't get a lot of this because he's seen as the quiet one. He was saying a lot of the same stuff. Yeah, yeah. Say the same stuff. So now everybody can back off and be like, all right, let's go do it. Go play as hard as you have been playing. But if you need a running back to run for 2,000 yards for this offense to work, that's letting you know something. Right. But see, that also is why the idea of moving off from A.J. Brown is a problem because the rest of those cats know that the problem is not saying.

something about the problem. But how does the problem get better then? Yeah, I don't have an answer for that. But if you start running people out for saying that the problem is the problem and everybody else knows that the problem is the problem, now your problem

is going to be that these other cats now have even more of a problem with the problem because telling the truth has now become the problem. And you can't never have a circumstance with telling the truth is the problem. Well, Welcome to this season of America.

Yo, so this is the thing, too, with all this that's going, all the noise that go around that situation with Nick Siriani and the start that he's had to his career where it's like, look at the wins and losses and look how we disrespect this entire situation. AJ Brown, you know, the terrific group of receivers, I think Jailet Hurts sometimes gets the ride on the, you know,

I'm smooth, your girl want me, I'm a wholesome man. The way that these dudes talk and the way AJ, like, AJ, the dude who pipe up seemingly like, hey, y'all, y'all know how it gets down behind closed doors in here. I ain't going to be the only one that look crazy. Like, you know, Jaylor, you get $200 million. You're moving and shaking behind the scenes.

Like, the dude is the son of a coach. Yeah. He knows, he knows what pressure points to push behind the scenes. So he ain't got, that's why anybody that come to you that way, as calmly as he does in the face of chaos or storm is a like I've only known dope dealers to behave this way to be honest what you're like it's all good and you're like oh no it ain't no something is happening in the background right now so like where I would be hot if I was AJ and again another place where I have been before um there's nothing worse when you're the only one

The only one saying was wrong. And everybody leaving you out there, right? When you do it, they be like, yeah, dog, yeah, we needed that. Somebody had to say that. And he'd be like, hey, man, I can't be the one that do this all the time, man, because otherwise they go, otherwise I'm going to become the problem. If y'all don't get a little louder. And I don't want to be the problem.

I'm not just the problem. So maybe the problem is AJ Brown just too good at it because they'd be using books and stuff like that. But somebody else, somebody else got to come out here and stand with me. Hey man, you just made me think of a moment. Do you remember, you probably don't, Tyreek Evans for the Sacramento Kings back in the day at the United Center, the Bulls were up 27 or something like that. And Tyreek Evans went on one of those tears where it's like, oh, my God.

This is a name I haven't thought of in so long, by the way. It was so amazing to watch that display of shot making and a dude just being the best cat on the poor in his, second year. We all get back to the media room, Bo. And everybody, and this is after Vinny had had a tough run of it. And everybody's talking about it. And everybody's all Vinnie Bill. Vinny down there, grow. Man, everybody's like, that's, that's a game you get fired. That, like, that's, that's one of them things. Why my dumb ass sit right there in the media room and it's like, yo, are you worried about your job security and the entire room? Record scratch. They all look

Give me like, I can't believe you asked that. I'm like, wait a minute, we was all just talking about this. We was all, they, and then, you know, the worst thing in the media group like that is everybody asking the question that, hey, so what was the substitution pattern? And what do you think? Like, they started to fluff it up for them. Man, do you know if Vinny walked out that joint and dat me up? It was like, I know what's happening.

I understand. That was a bad game. It's like sometimes the problem just needs to be addressed. And if the problem has any accountability, that let you know. That let you know. It feels like A.J. Brown knows that J. Hurts is hearing the problem be addressed, and their problem has not been addressed in the background. Like, it feels like a cat who, like, hey, man, you know, I know what I'm not doing out there.

You know what I'm not doing out there. You feel me? Let's keep this smooth. Let's get this paper. Ready? Break. It doesn't feel like that conversation has happened with. his crew. That's why AJ just keep popping up. You know what? Until the conversation

happened, I'm just going to let y'all know what should be going down here. Remember when they tried to act like they had had a summit and it turned down that they just talked in the parking lot right quick. Hey, hey, everybody hit the self-starter on the car. I got two minutes, gang. I got to go pick somebody up. What we're doing here? Hey, man, the offense ain't running this smoothly. All right, I sound like a plan. All right, cool. Everybody goes, man, I think that worked out. Like, that's one of the means where you, where you're like,

that went well, that went well, right? And then you find out, your ass is going to be in Jacksonville next year because nobody thinks that Jalen Hertz is the one to go against. And, you know, amen.

Heavy is the head to where is the crown? Like, he's been in big situations his entire life. And people have been like, you know, and he's survived. You know? I mean, I don't,

shout out to Philadelphia because this is the end of a run. And they're doing it with that, defense like they are that defense that those georgian dudes are sitting on the other side like that's the other thing too in that locker room at some point one of them georgia boys is going to be like i'm used to more points being scored like i'm used to i'm used to i'm used to jalen carters going to wake up and like you know what i don't like the fact that my wide receiver is constantly calling out my offense and i can't do it you know at some point it's got to happen hey man uh before we get out of here i don't know seeing this is from the Combine.

Man, motherfuckers be doing their radio shows and shit from the Combine now. That is crazy. Crazy. But you get great guests. I hadn't really thought about that, right? And everybody at the Combine, I've never been there, but they really be looking forward to the combine. It sounded like a sausage party to me, but them cats, like, that's

they time to catch up with all the homies. And, you know, anyway. It's a different kind of hanging out, right? Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we've talked about this. Two Americans kind of hanging out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, two, two Americas and a city with one restaurant. And if you're from Indianapolis,

I'm sure you got more than one restaurant. It's just only one restaurant to any of us I heard of. Anyway, Andrew Barry, general manager of the Browns, is up there and said that they're going to have a quarterback competition this year coming. It's going to be Deshaun Watson. It's going to be Dylan Gabriel.

It's going to be Shadoe Sanders. I don't know who else. They're going to throw into the mix. And I've seen people like, I don't, I don't feel like quarterback competition. is the right way to put it. Like, in theory, it will be a competition.

But the bottom line is the idea that those are your three guys and you really don't have an answer. Like, the fact that it's possible that any of them can start is terrible. Like, all those guys have a chance. That's, uh, if I'm Arch Manning, I'm like, yo, can I go play college basketball? Like, how did I get drafted in the NBA and then come back and get some eligibility? because it's a tough situation, man. I don't, you know, I'm not in these waters anymore. I'm not in the club of a fan base who doesn't have a quarterback.

You feel me? Like, here we go, here we go. I'm not, you know, here in Chicago, we don't have these kind of poverty conversations about the quarterbacks anymore. You feel me? Not an 18 is running around doing a podcast where he talking like, you know, Jesus himself, that Max Crosby podcast. where I'm like, hey, this man is talking like Michael Jordan and football pants.

But, no, man, I, I, Sodor, you know, everything that's been put on him and also the things that he has accepted. He seems like a swell young dude. Like, he's trying to make his way in a social media world that has corrupted all the young folk. You know what I mean? And then you got Deshaun, who, you know, his superpower seemingly came from being, you know what I mean? You think about the wild shit that he was engaging in and what we was watching when he was engaging in that? Like that dude, Samson is real.

You know what I mean? You know, my thought on him is it's hard to traffic in this world when you've been exposed to be a fraud. Like, knowing that everybody can see through you and you're supposed to be making split-second decisions. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And then the Dylan Gabriel thing.

thing. Like, you know, I, there are certain, there are certain quarterback rooms where you know you're just looking for the next guy. And that is one of those rooms. Nobody's coming from that. And I know people want to, because I think Sam Darnel and Baker Mayfield got a lot of people twisted where, where it's now, you can just go out and get some redemption story at the quarterback position and be okay. Like, like, dudes out here long relievers after Tommy John or something like that. Like, the league tell you, they give you a certain amount of data on a player, and that player then grows with that data. This ain't, this ain't that.

Like, that room is short, slow, and nasty. You know what I mean? Like, if I was describing a quarterback room, I wouldn't want those to be the three modifiers that I go with. You know what I'm being? Like, one dude is five, nine, right? you're never like and that whole August

they're going to be talking that shit up boy they're going to drop like at least in local and as if it matters like Andrew Barry basically said so what what's the point Dominique was making the point that worst case scenario for the Browns is that Deshaal Watson on nasty ass

get out there and start killing it and now you got to resign him and I'm like no that would be the best thing that ever happened to you that's the worst trade of all time like trade plus the kind contract. Guaranteed. It is the worst transaction.

Any team is made. And then he went and suffered a debilitating injury after he'd already had the ACL. Yeah. Yeah. That he had ACL in college. Dude, I remember. So when I was in Atlanta, they brought him to 92-9 the game. And I, you know, I wasn't at that time hit on not only just the impact of recruiting

day in the South, but also how. how 17-year-olds can be treated like little kings. And I saw him come through quiet, you know, understated dude, and the photographer is sitting there, and he's just teasing. And he's just snapping pictures. And I'm like, this is a big deal for you, huh? Like, I'm trying to figure it. And he tells me who he is.

And then he tells me, I'm a Clemson fan. This dude is going to win me. And he said me, win me a national championship. I was like, oh, this must be one of the gods of this thing. Like, this show is that. And then you watch what he was doing at Clemson. And you're like, okay, this is awesome. Like Steve McNair.

He's the closest to the Vince Young, Tom. Tough as hell, too, getting his ass beating some of those football games. So for all that to just dissipate with injury and scandal and all those things, man, if he go out there and get any of that back, I'm not saying any of that stuff should be overlooked and will be overlooked because we know it's going to follow him forever. But, yeah, the Browns. At this point, Miles Garrett just sitting in like,

hey, hey, give me anything, gang. Like, I'm clean. I'm clean as a whistle. Like, my girl winning gold medals and shit. Like, I'm good money. Just put something over there that's going to help me out. Miles Garrett pulled up to Super Bowl media, radio row last year, asking for a trade.

And they was like, how about some money? And he was like, oh, that'll work too. That'll do it. Is that old Les Miles like, hey, man, you know they, you know what they're hiring over here, right? Oh, damn, not another 11, man. You're cool. Are you right?

They say nothing on the other saying. No, conversation's been had, but you just get him a, no, you're right. He just told us there is a, and look, I'm not mad at him for it, just to be clear. At all. But there's a price he's willing to, there's a price he's willing to pay to lose. Hey, listen, man, when I saw Mario Williams go to Buffalo happily, you know what I'm saying? Like, Mario Williams is like, hey, man, this is it. You said 90 what?

You know how old I am? You know who you're giving this money to, right? And that's a dude who's just, hey, fishing, hanging out, you know, Houston. Like, but now, I'm going to get my brains beat in on a weekly basis and be the coldest, like bar none at my position in my sport. Yeah, just give me the bread, man. Yeah, like Miles Garrett is going to be like, if it was back of the day, like, you know his NFL films episode going to be crazy.

rather he gonna be in there in the same video with LT, right, in the same video with Reggie White, you know, like the cutting edge or whatever they want to call it or whatever. He'd be that cat right over there. And he's just like, hey, man, I just got all I can, all I can be assured of is getting this bread. That's it. That's it. Did you see that pod that he did the other day with, uh, Michael Parsons? First of all, that Michael Parsons. a handful.

He is a handful and found himself in an unexpected battle of wits and he was not prepared. Underarmed. Yeah, yeah, he didn't have the artillery that was necessary because Miles Garrett was just a little firing his ass.

Hey, look, Michael Parsons, Stone Cold Beast, but his explanations for why he's different than Miles Garrett fell completely flat in every way. And Miles Garrett was answering him about those things like he wasn't Miles Garrett. Like he was answering him just like an objective observer. This is the thing.

Nobody that cold would be this anonymous in any other sport. Because we've known for a long time, this dude loves writing poetry. Anime cat. Anime, yeah, when the Mason Rudolph's, shit popped off immediately. He said something because this dude, he has the physical statute to murder people at any time, any place he wants to, and would rather be putting together, you know, collages.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember when I first saw him in Texas, I'm saying, I'm like, no, no, he should be the first pick. And then, like, Jason, he's a sophomore. I'm like, I don't give a shit. He should be the first pick in the draft. Like, those dudes come along. So for him to be as understanding.

it as he is and then get on the couch what a dude, first of all, if you might get parsons, like sometimes you just got to know. Like he said, it's still my time. Sometimes you've got to know. I didn't finish the season because I was injured. My team lost our bitter rival in one of the more painful fashions in forever.

And now, I got to talk crazy. No, man. You got to keep moving. He just broke the Sacks record. That's what I'm saying. You got to, some battles like the MCs who don't respond, that That be looking to work.

Like this T.I. 50 thing? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He can't respond. Hey, man. Sometimes you have to recognize, even if it's not just overall, even if it's just in this moment, right? I got into some months on the radio with Jay Billis and it was when Ben Howlin was at the

end of his time at UCLA. And Dan kind of, I think, brought it up. And I made some point. And I don't think I was being a dick about it. But I will tell you this, for whatever reason. don't know what the reason is. This was a very serious topic for Jay Billis. And it did not take very long for me to recognize that this was not a winning proposition for me,

nor was it a victory I was that concerned with. And I was just like, hey, man, I got to get, I got to tap out of this. I can try to fight this if I want to. That's only going to make it worse. Because Jay, let me tell you, man, Jay is a formidable opponent. All right, Mike. And I just remember at some point. point. Jay said,

Beaumani, you have anything else? I was just kind of like, no, man, you got it. And I remember I was talking to Dan after. I was like, yo, he got me, right? Dan's like, well, he was being a dick. I'm like, no, man, that's not the point. He got it. Like, that's it.

That's it. I didn't win this time. I have to, I have to accept the fact that I did not win this one. Michael Parsons was losing and just kept, you know what he's kept doing? But he was putting his shot up and Victor just kept pitching it, but he just kept all shooting it. And at no point, then he'd think, man, maybe I should just dribbling this out or let the shot clock run out.

You know, no, he just kept trying. Maybe it's time for somebody else. No, you're just time for somebody. Their strength in that understanding, right? As men, you know, we all been around a dude who's like, hey, man, you're not making this better for anybody around us. Like, we were around a dude who always got the craziest thing to say or the hottest take and then don't have anything.

to back it up and want to keep going in. You just say, man, you know, sometimes you just want to back up off that thing, let it breathe a little bit. You know what I mean? And you look like the cat who's like, hey, man, you know what? I know when to concede.

I know when to concede is powerful. Also, turning an L into a W in one of these contexts takes more time than the internet allows. You're going to need to deconstruct this whole thing, strip it all the way down, to the bottom and then perhaps bring yourself back up to the top. Hey, like your regular audience might hear it. Okay.

Mike can coming back with a power point of double teams. Yeah, yeah, it's going to take a while. Are you going to need to like let that shit go on for so long that you can slightly divert the topic? And we're actually no longer talking about what we was talking about before, but it's some shit that you write about. Yeah. And, you know, you got to know your opponent too.

Like, you know, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, yeah, in this case, I think it was a little less about knowing your opponent than it was about knowing thyself. I used to, C.J. Stroud used to cook his ass too. Yeah, yeah. Speaking of, speaking of that, uh, I don't think that play, you talk, we talked about Wimby earlier. I don't think that playoff performance got nearly enough.

Like, you talk about the, it. the microwave society that we live in. Social media is amazing, but back of the day, back in my day, when things were allowed to cook a little bit, you know, four deceptions in the first half of a playoff game

wouldn't just have been a blip on the radar. No, no, no, it was bad, man. It was really bad. It was, it was, and we was talking about a real bad when it happened, but the truth is, they ain't nothing they can do about it right now. You know, like there's just,

And it was coming off the game before when he was also terrible. They just, there's no solution to this. He was, we were talking about him like the best rookie quarterback we'd ever seen. There is no solution. And so, yeah, we could talk about it. But if he played for the cowboy, if he played for a team that had a national following, we would talk about it.

But otherwise, it was like, okay, what they're not going to do is extend him right now, right? He's going to have to play another year. And he should want to play another year before he gets that extension. Get his name back. they're going to give him right now, it ain't going to be what he had been dreaming of. Yeah, it's crazy to me how, like,

we are getting to that place now where, because this is a copy cat league in the NFL, where people are thinking how bad of a quarterback can I win the Super Bowl with, you know, and how that might affect the draft. Like this draft, I remember going to college football season last year, how it was supposed to be four, five dudes. It was supposed to be first rounders.

And all of them took the, been seemingly. That's right. And Fernando and Mendoza and Ty Simpson rose to the top. And now we're having conversations about how small Todd Simpson is. And Fernando Mendoza can play off your group. You don't want to be out in these streets trying to find one. Yeah.

I mean, the Texans had to draft the dude that got into a heated argument with the offensive coordinator on the visit. Yeah. Yeah. Like, my understanding is that he went into that draft knowing the one place he wouldn't be going was Houston. So he let him know. Yeah, and they was like, hey, man, we can't afford to be letting that little shit like that

get in the way, you know? Like, nah, like this is, look, he's who they've got. We're going to see what it turns into, but I don't know how bad he'd have to play. Man, that Houston thing, too, there's some PTSD with that too, because for all those years that they was kind of cold too with Andre, like, Matt Schaub, it was always that wild car weekend where Matt Schaub and Andy Dahl was going to be facing off that first playoff game of the postseason, right? Like now you're in that affect of, okay, the second tier of AFC quarterbacks and how it's

kind of being reshuffled and, you know, people don't like Justin Herbert. C.J. Stroud has that kind of performance. Like, it's a weird world. Like I keep mentioning, man, like I keep saying, you know, this last year of quarterback comfort that I've been experiencing as a Bears fan, you know, I'm not having these squads. filled conversations with all y'allel quarterback brokies out here you feel you know what it is though like it's an interesting thing nobody really talk about you know those of us who are fans of the nfc northman with the exception of the vikins yeah we just overall it's we all feel pretty good about where we're at

I keep forgetting you know the viking's got a quarterback situation but like I still feel good about where I'm at I'm happy that you now feel good about where your squad is at you know what I'm saying Hey, hey, going into this season, NFC North, if you had to rank those quarterbacks, I know who, I know who'd be at the bottom. But I know who's at four. Yeah, we know who's at four. But, hey, man. I feel pretty confident. Like, I think we're pretty clear on who's at four and who's at one.

I mean, I know you don't feel this way about one, but I think one is pretty obvious. Do you think it's George? Yes. Do you? He got enough. He got enough Rostler in a man. He got enough. Yeah, but I'd rather have him than Jared Gough.

Yo, Kim Folk. And right now, I'd rather have him. Hey, listen, all I know is we, hey, quarterback spoke about what didn't happen on the final play with DJ Moore and treated them like a professional. First thing smoking at the, at the combine, Ryan Poe's like, hey, listen, we are here to upgrade our team when he was asked about DJ Moore. That man is getting wide receivers. Cut, you hear me?

Like, there's moving and shaking going on at Hallis Hall because the man was painted males is coming down and he's coming down. Hey, they're old colors, you know, hey, we can run down and get one or we can walk down and get them all. Slow up. Slow up. We had to get Matt Eberfluse

off our jacket, but we're ready to rock now, baby, you know what I mean? You're talking about some Jordan love. He got wide receivers who can't stay healthy, can't catch the ball, you got a big hat dude. There's no dude in the NFL running around with a big hat that you respect. None.

I ain't a lot. I ain't a lot. I said about that left guard for the Patriots. I'm like, yo, man, that big, that big, that,

that, the big hat is, the big hat is, the big, is making you a target. That's it. That's it. Like,

they need a big hat breakout. Like, a dude just go crazy. Like, Jackson Smith and Jigba need to wear the big hat and have an 1800 yard season. So it's kind of like when Tony Kukkoz, Jadino Roger came over.

It's like, hey, you know, these European cast they kind of saw. I was like, nah, they've been, They've been having the slingshots and tanks culture for a long time over there.

Like, don't, you know what I mean? Don't sleep on their toughness, but you had to see it. You need a proof of concept. There needs to be a big hat proof of concept guy. Romeo Dobbs ain't going to be that news for me. I'm sorry. Miles Gary, got to get the big hat. Somebody got to get that one of the cold ones got to get the big hat.

One of the cold ones got to be that enthused about protecting their brain that they take the stigma up off of it. That's all. That's all it is. You feel me? Back in the days when you see the cat with the ducktail, right? Like, you know, Houston, you know, Dallas, there's some, there's some interesting, you know, hair combinations and haircuts, right?

I used to see the cat with the ducktail back in the day. I'm like, you know what? The first time I see one of those dudes pull that off without somebody making a mention of his ductail in a derogatory way is when I, you know, think it's okay. The big hat is the same way for me. I'm cool. I'm cool. We ain't got no big hat dudes on the bears, and if we do.

Rocheon Johnson, Texas running back, back up to Bejan Robinson. That's backup behavior with that big hat. Kid me? It's football. I need regular hat dudes out there. And that is Jason Gough. Check him out at the Rangor.

Check her out at the athletic. My brother, I appreciate you. Hey, man, we got to get together soon. We got to get the fellas together, you know, hit Joel up, you know, and hit Dominique up, you know, get Kravitz, get Brumley out here. We got to go on a world tour.

And I mean, you got a domestic world tour. I know you go on a literal world tour. Dang, yeah, yeah. But like a domestic world tour for us that got little ones. Yeah, we'll try to give Joel enough time to get, to get himself free. We can see what happens, bad. But ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four days a week.

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