The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Knicks Might be Cooked, Jokic Struggles vs. Thunder, Shedeur Sanders' Turnaround | 5.12
Episode Date: May 12, 2025On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones reacts to the NBA playoff semifinals and NFL rookie mini-camp beginning. Bo starts off the show by saying why the Cleveland Cavaliers can still win ...this series vs the Indiana Pacers despite being down 3-1 (3:08) and why there isn't any semifinals series he feels has been decided yet (8:44). Bo also predicts the Boston Celtics will win their series vs the New York Knicks after their Game 3 victory at Madison Square Garden (15:45). Bo rounds out his NBA talk by saying neither Nikola Jokic or Shai-Gilgeous Alexander have been playing like MVP candidates (26:08). Shifting gears to the NFL, Bo says why a different Shedeur Sanders showed up to Browns mini-camp (32:27) and that he will eventually start games for Cleveland this season (43:27). And finally, we have another round of If You Haven't Heard stories involving American breakfast potentially changing, what actually goes on at the Met Gala and the jury selection for the Diddy trial (44:10. Then Bomani listens to some voicemails about when a white guy shocked you on the basketball court. (51:58) If You Haven't Heard Contributors: Yasmin Tayag, staff writer at The Atlantic, "Breakfast Is Breaking" https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2025/05/american-breakfast-eggs-tariffs/682700/ Carol Lee, beauty writer at The Cut, "What Actually Happens Inside the Met Gala?" https://tinyurl.com/3hwkys8z Victoria Bekiempis, courts/crime reporter for Vulture & other outlets, "How Jury Selection for Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs’s Sex-Trafficking Trial Will Work" https://tinyurl.com/48kyzkkn . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Support the Show: Discover faster, more reliable search with Perplexity today. Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at perplexity.com! https://pplx.ai/bomani-jones When any player scores 50 or more points in a game, DashPass members save 50% on an order, up to $10 off. Use promo code NBA50 to redeem. See further terms and conditions at https://drd.sh/8ONpZP/ Download the DraftKings Pick Six app NOW and use code BOMANI. Better payouts. Bigger wins. Only with Pick6 from DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original presented by perplexity.
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We had an interesting weekend full of NBA basketball, also NFL minicamp.
We'll get to the NFL stuff in just a second.
The last basketball game that was played before I sit down here to do this here,
was the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Indiana Pacers.
And if you are a Cleveland Cavaliers fan, you've only got three words.
Red Rose Shaggy.
Slicking kind of bad here.
Donovan Mitchell left the game with an ankle injury.
But before he hurt his ankle, Caz caught that 40-ounce bottle to the dome.
That's right.
They were losing by 40 points at halftime.
Bang.
Busted over the dome.
And what made this interesting to me was I came into Game 4 thinking, oh, okay, they got a real chance.
And the reason I thought that was Game 2 when it was basically Donovan Mitchell and some dudes,
because Evan Mowgli was hurt, Darius Garland was hurt, DeAndre Hunter was hurt.
They had that game.
They blew it, but they had it, but they blew it in a way that I thought was somewhat reasonable,
given how depleted they were.
They brought all those dudes back out there for Game 3, went into Indiana, and blew it
them dudes doors off. It's like, oh, okay, cool. You guys have been the best team in the East all year long,
and you asserted yourself like you're the best team in the East. Because they're in this kind of
trick bag situation where, yes, they're the best team in the conference, but they have no receipts.
They have no reason for us to have faith in them. They came out there like a really good team
is supposed to under those circumstances. It's very similar to what happened with the Celtics.
When they came out there against the Knicks, it was just like, bra, you kidding me. We still
us and they steal them. And that's what they did in game three. That's what it looked like
Cleveland did in game three. So they came out there and got their asses kit in game four.
And Ryan, you brought this up and I don't think you're wrong. By the time the people watch us,
somebody has already raised the question. Should LeBron opt out and come back to Cleveland?
Third time's a charm, baby. Let's do this one more time. Yeah, I mean, we're going to get
that and we were an OKC
loss away from Janus rumors
and Kevin Durant return rumors.
Yes, yes. Now, I want to say, by the way,
still not too late.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a long week.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's still plenty of time
for these things. It just would have happened
in the middle of the series, which is type disrespectful.
However, still entirely possible for what's going to go down, right?
Absolutely.
But with Cleveland, I feel like Cleveland's in one of these
interesting situations where, and look, this series is not over.
They can still get this.
What impresses you about Indiana or would impress me about Indiana, but would also worry me
to a degree.
And I think it was a point that Greg Anthony made during the broadcast is, of all the teams
left, they are probably better than every other team at getting offense through scheme, right?
They run their plays.
They run their stuff.
They move the ball.
and that's how you wind up on all these dudes like what's his name, your man's buddy,
old boy from Canada.
No, not that one from Canada, the other one from Canada.
You know, like they got a, they have a collection of those dudes, right?
It's the Aberdey Costello sort of roster.
Okay, cool.
But they get those shots and they take those shots and they're not afraid of those shots
and they make those shots.
As a long-term proposition for the postseason,
you're going to get to a place where everybody knows,
your scheme. Everybody knows your offense. And it becomes about what your guys can do off the dribble.
How many guys you have that can get their own shots independent of everything else that's going on.
We know that they have one of those guys. The trick bag about that one guy is he's also the guy
that's responsible for getting other people's shots. And that's Halliburton. But they do have that guy.
How you feel about Siakum being the number two guy? A team won a championship like that, but that
championship was six years ago, right? There's that. But relying on scheme,
Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, that is tough.
The Quinn Snyder, Utah years are a great example where they were really good at getting offense through scheme.
And by the way, this is a team with Donovan Mitchell, really great at getting offense through scheme.
But then when the scheme ain't going, what exactly is it that you're going to do?
That may be the question that has to be found out.
Cleveland, Cleveland has not gotten to that point.
So they got a point guard with a bad toe.
they are asking so much of Donovan Mitchell.
And I made a point,
I don't remember if I talked about this all here.
I made a point last week,
or maybe it was the week before.
It was like, if you give me a choice of Halliburton or Donovan Mitchell,
I'm taking Halliburton because Halliburton is 6'5.
I am floored by how many people don't realize
that that is as sound of logic as you can have with the NBA.
Guys, 6-2 or lower,
who have taken teams to championship.
ships. Basically, Isaiah Thomas and
Steph Curry. And Step Curry is not
under 6-2. Seth Curry is a much bigger dude
than Isaiah Thomas was. Now
Mitchell is strong,
right? Like you can tell he'd be in there throwing up
that iron. You know what I'm saying? Throw it up.
Catch it. Bring it back down. Right?
Like, you tell he that dude. But
they just don't seem
to have enough guys. Evan Mowgli is
really good. Tall man,
not big man. Jared Allen.
And look, at least
Evan Mowgli gives you, like,
some smaller man stuff. Jared Allen is giving you no smaller man things while possessing a tall
man physique. It's a dicey, dicey, dicey proposition. So they are now basically in a place where
they've got this game five. Ryan, I just had one of those moments that was going to make me sound
really stupid. I was about to say if they don't win game five, I don't think they're going to win
the series. Game five must win. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I must win game five. That was exactly what I was
going for. It is a must win game five.
and now they are in a position where what they have to do is stave.
They're in stave mode.
The hardest thing about both the Cavs and the Pacers is,
I'm sure Kenny Ackison and Rick Carlisle both love their teams,
which is great for them, but makes me feel like they have a very hard ceiling.
Yes, they do. Yes, they do.
And they have the, you can't get too attached to your own guys.
Like, I think that's going to be the thing probably.
But we get to, like, the future for them, we got a lot of future, right?
but you're absolutely right. They're at that place where it's like, okay, I would make this argument.
Both of them are a team with a bunch of low spades.
Exactly. They can win a Trump on the right suit, but you can't just throw it down at the start of the book and be like, yeah, what's about to happen now, right? No jokers. No jokers.
None. No jokers. The eight of spades, right? The ten of spades. Actually, I think Donovan Mitchell's like a queen or king of spades, which is a very, very good card to have, but till the deuce come out, you know, bounced.
the point about height and, you know, his strength. You know, Donovan Mitchell reminds a lot of people
of Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade, six four, six five. Yes. Let me tell you something. Go stand next to
Duane Wade. Yeah. That is the amazing part of Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade's in the six, three, six four
range, but he's still taller than Donovan Mitchell. Easily. You know, they're not, they're not,
and Dwayne Wade is Dwayne. Correct. I think time has gone on. I saw that there was a discussion
during the Hardin thing where people had really come out there and said that James Hardin was better than Duane Wade.
And I just couldn't believe that anybody would form their lips to say three-time champion,
Dwayne Wade was not as good as a dude who might be a DNA locked loser.
It's possible that he is a loser in the core of his bones and soul.
He's a legend at the bank.
But he might be.
as well. Yes. Well, yes, he is. He's a legend at Onyx. I think it was onyx in Houston when he retired his jersey.
Yep. I think it was. But you are correct. But rest of the league, I feel like the playoffs, Ryan, you tell me if I'm wrong here, I do feel good that I don't feel like any series is over, right?
Correct. I would even say this series is not quite close to over unless you just have a serious faith in the Indiana Pacers, right? Now, I don't know how the hell thing is going to affect the cabs. I mean, they're up against. I don't think. I don't know how they're up against. I don't think.
if there's any question about that fact.
But I don't think Golden State is out of it, even against Minnesota.
And in fact, I feel like Minnesota better get it cooking.
Because if they don't close this out in five, if Steph can come back in six,
I'm not sure how well they hold you together.
Because outside of Anthony Edwards, I ain't got no faith in nobody's head playing for
the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Yeah, absolutely.
And you saw they were able to withstand the Jimmy, the first major Jimmy Butler game.
but if they get another one of those, it's two, two, you go back,
Steph comes back, game six, in the Chase Center,
a whole different situation.
Also, do you remember how good they were last year
for a good Whiskey Tango, Fox Trot Classic?
Like, they are good for it.
What are you doing?
Right?
Like, it's been a little less of that since Carl Towns left,
but Julius Randall.
There's one of those as well.
Yes.
You were not here when I used to say this,
but I was like, I think both Minnesota and New York
thought they were getting over.
over when they made that trade.
They're like, yeah, tell them, we'll give them Julius.
I bet they love to have Carl.
And they all sit there, like they make the trade and everybody else, they both,
like if you had a split screen on television or the phone call when they made the trade,
and on both sides, both guys are like, okay, so it's yes?
Yeah, yeah, yes.
So it's yes?
Yes.
Yeah, dog!
And they all so excited.
But, I mean, that second half Anthony Edwards put up.
It's your friendly reminder that he can do that.
And has done in the playoffs.
He has.
And I guess Jimmy's the guy who can do that for Golden State.
But Jimmy's getting older.
Jimmy is hurt.
You know,
you got to remember that he has a lacerated keister.
I don't remember if it was a,
no,
the keister is not lacerated.
I think it's a keister contusion that he has.
But those of you who don't know what happened,
Jimmy fell on his ass earlier in the playoffs.
And it's still,
he got a sole booty.
You know, like that,
that's, that's,
I have to say,
that'd be an interesting calling to work.
Hey, y'all, my booty saw.
I don't know.
No, no, no, no, no, no, the muscle part.
But yeah, I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make it in today.
Yeah, my keister is ailing.
But he's got an ailing keister.
And then outside of that, they ain't really got nobody that I have great faith in on that team.
They do have that boy Pat Spencer that I think we need to talk more about.
That's number 61.
He looked like he won a contest.
In fact, he doesn't even look like he won a contest.
You know what he looks like?
He looks like a Silicon Valley billionaire.
air. That's what he looks like. He looks like he gave enough money. He, he, he, he won the
drawing at the fantasy camp to allow him to be on the team. Yeah, especially with that good of
seats, right? Like, it's like, how does that guy sit right there? Oh, he, you know, he made a
billion dollars on a couple laps. He's that guy. But he gets out of the court wearing an
offensive lineman's number. So I found out the story on that. I did not know. It was that the
draft has 60 players, so he's number 61. Still an offensive lineman's number. That is,
Hold on, not just an offensive linemen number.
A number offensive linemen don't want.
Yeah, that's a backup guards number.
Yeah, that's what you get for showing up late.
You know, that, that, that is, that is what that is.
Number 61 is a seat in the front row at the movie theater.
You're in, but nobody wants this.
Correct.
Nobody wants this.
Like, I've been trying to go see that Ryan Couglar movie to everybody is seen.
The problem was every theater that I checked,
because now they got that assigned seating,
I suddenly don't like a sign seating because I like it.
Maybe it's a little better.
You just show up early, get in where you fit in.
I don't know how many theater centers has sold out, but that number should be higher
because every time I look, it wasn't sold out, there were tickets.
And every single one of them was on the front row.
I'm supposed to be watching the motherfucking IMAX from the front row.
No tomatoes, Tommy.
No tomatoes.
Yeah, yeah, we're not doing that.
The Knicks, you know, Ryan and I live in New York, and I need you guys to understand something.
It was a perfect New York City weekend.
We got rain on Thursday, rain on Friday.
It was gloomy, but the rain stopped for just long enough on Friday,
but the Kendrick Lamar show to go through.
That worked out okay.
and then Saturday and Sunday were absolutely beautiful.
The only thing that could have possibly made life better here in New York City
is if the Knicks were to one game three against the Celtics.
And instead, they got beat like they stole something.
It was go time from go time.
From the very beginning, they just got their asses tossed.
rocked, bludgeon, demolished.
Here's the thing.
It actually looked like
the rest of the series has looked.
It wasn't terribly different, right?
The only difference was Boston did not go through
an extended stretch where they did not make threes.
They are, they're going to run the offense, right?
I believe that we had talked a little bit before
on this show at different points.
I made the argument that I wouldn't be surprised if Joe Missoula was really good at like jigsaw puzzles.
And I get the feeling that that's a dude that can lock into a task.
What he's not good at is switching it up, right?
Like he feels very much so like a college coach in that sense.
That's just like, hey, if we execute what it is that we'll do, we'll be fine.
This is the Dean Smith Roy Williams School of Basketball Coach.
If we execute, we'll be just fine.
the problem is with that style of play with what they do,
it allows for these wild fluctuations.
On top of the fact that I'm not convinced that they,
even though they a team of champions,
that they have like that steely result.
This is a roster with a bunch of dudes
who really don't know nothing about anything
other than the Eastern Conference Finals are better.
And it never feels that way for them.
But man, they kept putting up them threes.
They kept making them threes over and over and over.
And it just looked like the Knicks had no business being there with them.
And then you go look up what the numbers are for who had the lead for how long in the course of this series.
And you realize, yeah, one of these teams is actually much better than the other one.
You just wonder slash hope that the Knicks can sneak one.
But I feel pretty confident.
this is over and six.
I just don't think.
I don't think the Knicks have anything else.
Shout out to the boy Carl Towns.
He's out there playing with that broken finger.
He made it happen.
I just,
I'm actually a little surprised by this.
The noise around Carl in this town
is not as loud as I would expect it to be,
given what I see.
And what I see is,
I just can't recall a time.
that I feel like I've seen two teams disrespect the same man,
like the team that he's on and the team that plays against him.
Ryan, they'll put anybody on Carl Towns, like to guard him.
Anybody.
They don't care how big or small they are.
They'll put anybody out there.
And I have him out there, like Tobias Harris is the guy that Detroit had him had guard him.
You'll see any of those smaller guys from Boston guarding him.
And the Knicks are never like, okay, let's punish that.
It is wild, like with Carl Anthony Town.
You talk about as a reception here.
he hasn't done anything as egregiously.
I don't like, I'm trying to think of a better word for this,
as a nonsensical as he would do in Minnesota.
Yes.
He doesn't do the dumb three fouls that he would use to do.
He doesn't get the silly technicals,
but he still has the same obvious glaring deficiencies in his game
that you think would offend New York basketball fan sensibilities.
I have been shocked by that.
And then in this game, five for eight,
Like he got to the line, he got boards, he didn't turn it over, still a few silly fouls and all of that.
But it is strange to watch what goes on with him.
Then it's the whole Mitchell Robinson situation.
Did you see that weird thing, that video he put up to tell everybody he doesn't care?
Never tell people you don't care.
He did a video on Instagram to tell people, don't y'all know that I don't care.
Young man, you press record.
you recorded it, you looked at it, you sent it, you're not convincing, brother.
There's two arguments. One, you're not convincing anyone. Two, maybe you should care.
Yeah, and I look, I feel bad for him. It's not like he isn't trying, right? Right, right.
Like, I'm sure he spends a lot of time shooting free throws. I'm sure he goes through everything.
It's a once I saw that there was that little stretch of time where DeAndre Jordan was able to make free throws,
you remember that? And I don't know why he stopped, but he used to do a thing where he get the ball and then
he asked somebody a question at the free throw line, and then for a little while he was shooting
like 70-something percent from the free throw line. This dude does now hit that danger zone where Rick
Barry pop up and start talking about how you need to shoot underhand free throws. And this is what
I hate about the you need to shoot underhand free throws argument. We only, look, and the bottom
line is this. Rick Barry is correct when he says this. The only reason that more people don't
shoot underhand free throws is because they don't want to look like dorks. This is,
100% correct. But deep down inside, let us all be honest. We all feel that way. It is only the people
who shoot like 50% or worse that anybody ever says need to shoot underhand free throws.
You say they need to swallow their pride and shoot the underhand free throws. We only say that
about people who shoot under 50%. And it's kind of like the argument is you could be Rick Barry.
Okay, Rick Barry retired is the all-time leading free throw percentage guy, and Rick Barry shot
something close to 90% from the free throw line, which is to say, if we really thought that shooting
underhand free throws was that good or that important, we wouldn't only ask the people
who shoot terribly. We would ask everybody to shoot underhand free throws because it's so damn
effective. But we don't ask everybody to shoot them. We don't ask the 75%. We don't ask the 75%.
percent free throw shooter to shoot them. Why? Because you look fucking ridiculous. That's why. And if you're
shooting 75 percent, maybe you can get it up to 85. But is that 10 percent worth looking like you
shoot underhand free throws? The answer is no. So every time we get on somebody all the way down there
and da-da-da-da-da-da-ma, why don't you do this? If you really thought it was that important,
you tell everybody to shoot underhand free throws. But you don't. And I'm going to be honest with you.
I'd rather you watch me shoot 30
than see me shoot granny 400.
And also, this is a class example of hard to separate the messenger from the message.
Rick Barry famously unliked.
He's the least liked man that I, one,
if you are as good as Rick Barry was at basketball,
and please understand, ladies and gentlemen,
Rick Barry Caball.
He, in the era when the white man,
was going extinct in the NBA, and everybody still can't stand him, right? Like, it's not like Larry Bird
is Mr. Personality. You know what I mean? People still hate Rig Berry. I will tell you this.
I once met one of Rigberry's sons, and when I tell you which, in Miami. And it was,
seem charming, right? And, like, I heard that they didn't like him. But, I mean, it's your dad,
right? And so we had done an interview.
with Rick on highly questionable a couple days before that.
And so I say to this unnamed Barry, oh, talk to your dad the other day.
And he was like, I hate that for you and walked away.
I spoke to that particular Barry two different times.
He was so happy to meet me before I said that.
He looks through me like I'm not there.
I once saw him somewhere on Christmas Eve and walked up and said Merry Christmas
and he didn't say a word, he just looked at me.
He was with his kids.
By the sheer mention of his father.
Simply because I mentioned his father one time.
I don't know you people.
You know what I mean?
Like, damn, by bad.
And look, I know what it's like when you got somebody in your family that you don't like
and people keep bringing them up.
I get that.
But I'm never mad at the person who does it, right?
And it's not like you bring up every time.
It's not like, you're like, hi, how's your dad doing?
Right.
Yo!
Like, oh my God.
I'm just saying,
That's how his kids treated.
Yeah, he's a, wow, different story.
But yeah, anyway, Mitchell Robinson,
you ain't got to shoot under hair free throws to be.
That's all I'm saying.
One more thing I want to get to while we are here
talking about NBA basketball.
I watched the first half of Thunder and Nuggets.
I watched the whole game on Sunday.
And, I mean, I watched the game on Friday, too,
but I saw a game on Sunday.
I sent a tweet during the game
and it said because the score was so low.
What it never had was it eight points in the first quarter?
Something like that, yeah.
I think they might have gotten to double digits.
Yeah, it was, it was bad, man.
Like, if you didn't watch it, it was 17 to 8 at the end of the first quarter, right?
It was like Wisconsin, like Dick Bennett's Wisconsin, like that era of basketball, right?
Play in play in Michigan State.
So 17 to 8, it's not much better in the midst of the second quarter.
I sent a tweet and I said,
they out here partying like it's 1999
and I don't mean that in no good way.
And somebody quote tweeted that.
Somebody I imagine
is a little whippersnapper
and he says something about
oh y'all say y'all miss this though.
And I was like, see, see, see,
this is where you poorly raised children
just don't understand it.
At the point at which
I sent that tweet of the second quarter,
these two teams were shooting a combined.
And I need you to understand, guys, I'm not exaggerating here.
They were a combined, two for 34 from three point range.
Two for 34.
It was an awful watch.
It led to a very good finish.
but two for 34, it was an awful, awful, awful, awful watch.
And I'm just amazed at all these teams that can get out here and can't nobody buy a bucket
and nobody's like maybe we should try something else, right?
Like with Denver, I'm looking at it and Russell Westbrook needs to understand.
You're open for a reason.
Now, I understand the argument that if I'm going to be out here, I might as well shoot,
but there is no world in which Russell Westbrook should ever be allowed to shoot two for nine from three point range.
None.
Like they're not even really, they're not trying to run out there at him.
They ain't going, who I'm saying?
They ain't even clapping their hands right before he shoots, nothing.
They're like, hey, everybody, give him what the time he needs.
It don't even matter what he do, right?
That's what they are doing with him.
I think, and that series is two, two, and I think anybody can win that series.
But I think there's only one thing to talk about coming out of that series that really matters.
And this is the thing that it should be, and it would be the case with just about anybody else in a similar situation.
The bottom line is the best player in the NBA is playing like boo-boo.
Period.
He's playing like boo-boo.
He can't, he's missing shots that he has.
He's missing shots that you see him have all the time.
I don't think this is just about the way the Oklahoma City is guarding him.
I don't think this is just about the physicality that is being allowed.
Like I'm watching him miss layups where he's there.
And he's still the biggest guy on the floor, right?
If Yokic doesn't bring it, then all this comes down on him.
I don't care about them firing the coach.
I don't care about what the lack of depth is, anything else.
That game was 92-87, and if Nicola Yokic plays just a little bit good, they win the game.
That's it, right?
He's got to be the one.
They're taking away the ability to pass the ball and get it to everybody else.
It don't matter what they're doing.
What it comes down to is what he's supposed.
to do. And what he's supposed to do is play like the best player in the NBA. Because the guy that's
going to win the MVP, I got news for you. He's not really playing like he's the MVP. Neither of them
is really bringing it, although both of them have had one dominant game in the course of this series.
But I still firmly believe, no matter what the MVP stuff says, best player in the league is Nicola
Yolich. And if the best player in the NBA doesn't bring more, they're going to lose and it's
supposed to come down on him. That's how it goes. It matters where you started, yes, right?
But he ain't a second round pick no more. He's three-time MVP. And a three-time MVP needs to play well
enough that when Oklahoma City shoots 10 for 41 for three and 35 percent from the floor overall
and you got the game at home with the ultimate home court advantage at altitude, they're supposed to
win it because of you. The rest of your guys around you can't get buckets. They're supposed to win it
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I have gone on. By the way, uh, just throwing it out there, Ryan, Aaron Roder still don't have a
team. He will, unfortunately now he has another option. That's right, because Derek Carr retired.
Yeah.
Huh. Yeah, that's a, that's interesting. I tell you.
you this.
Playing in the dome as an old man, that seems like, that seems like it would be the
attractive proposition.
I don't think Aaron Rogers has any interest in playing for a coach that's probably
younger than him.
Fair.
There is also that.
But I can't believe this is still going on.
I will say this.
If you're the Steelers and you don't lock this in and he wants somebody, like generally
speaking, people lose their jobs for stuff like this.
Because otherwise, Mike Toplin might be the quarterback.
They're going to have to call for another person coming off in Achilles' injury.
They're going to have to call for Kirk Cousins.
Oh, wow.
I forgot about Kurt Cuts.
Somebody, ooh, somebody's going to make that mistake.
Correct.
Yikes.
Which is the mistake you make when your other option is Mason Rudolph.
That's correct.
What else are we going to do, right?
That's where they are stuck.
But the star of the weekend, and you tell me if I'm wrong here,
star of the weekend with Shudorra Sanders.
Look, part of it is this mini-camp is always interesting for me in terms of coverage because the NBA playoffs are really going.
But as I have said before, as a nation, we are becoming about football the way Canada is about hockey, which is the lead story on SportsCentra in Canada is always hockey.
It's always hockey, unless maybe the Raptors win the title.
But it's always going to be hockey.
That's how it goes.
that's where we are about football. And so we are in, I mean, a great stretch for NBA basketball.
And I think we've had a very entertaining round here in the conference semifinals.
But it's still the mini camps, right? And the quarterback that people watch more is still
Shador Sanders above anybody else there in Cleveland. And look, the Cleveland situation I do think
is uniquely interesting just because I have no idea who their quarterback is going to be.
Right. And so people are doing the math. And like Dylan Gabriel took the first,
snaps and how this goes for Chodor and everything else. And Chodor is the one that people have the most
questions for and all of this. But I want to take a moment because I had read enough and known enough
about how Chodor carried himself in the pre-draft process. And it was poor, right? It contributed to
the fall that he had in the draft. And apparently he picked up some game from that.
Because the Chodor Sanders, who was showing up for that stuff, does not sound like the one who showed
to this mini-camper at the very least, not the one that showed up in front of reporters.
Here are a couple of quotes from him that I thought were really kind of prescient and showed
I would contend to measure maturity.
Quote, my job here isn't to prove people wrong.
It's to prove myself right.
Well said.
Well said.
Another quote.
My story is going to be similar to Tom Brady.
So he's talking about.
I was a late round pick, but we're here now, so none of that stuff matters.
That just mattered on that day, and I'm just excited to be here ready to work.
These are all the things that somebody in his position needs to be saying out loud.
I also noticed that in Tampa Bay, Shiloh Sanders, his brother, he just got Long
Oz to make the team, he's an undrafted dude, but he did media availability and then
when it shook hands with everybody that was there for media availability.
And guys, I can't tell you this enough.
Nobody has to do that.
But we are an easy bunch.
We're a tough bunch.
You just be a little bit nice to us, man.
We will be eating out of your hand.
That right there was a wise, wise play by Shiloh.
Shadour also did the thing where he got to Cleveland.
And the first thing he did is he went and he talked to a high school.
And then he said he did not do it for PR.
Now, I mean, I understand that there's some lies that you have to tell.
right, I get that.
But at the same time, good on him.
What it sounds like is, and I think I saw,
I think it may have been Albert Breer,
but somebody else made this point that the way that he handed himself
in the pre-draft process was like he was being recruited
rather than being drafted.
It was as though they completely forgot the math on this,
like the dynamics and how it works.
And in the end, you are still asking these people
to give you a job.
right you are not in a position to dictate terms they have the thing that you want which is the job
you want the job more than they want you in just about every case right he didn't seem to get that
if you went and looked at when he did press availability at the combine he's got the hat cock to
the side like don't bring me if you're not trying to change the culture and all of that no no this all of
these things misunderstood the dynamics of it. Like, how dare you tell all these teams that their
culture needs to change? You just got here. You don't know what our culture is, right? Let me
not have been good this year, but you don't know, you don't know these things. He didn't.
And these are mistakes that young people make. And so I am now 44 years old. Okay.
I am also not short on confidence and I have never been short on confidence and I am fully aware of how not being short on confidence can make other people uncomfortable.
Sometimes in my life that has been about those people and what they lack.
And sometimes in my life, that was about me being obnoxious.
When I was in my late teens and early 20s, it was primarily about me being obnoxious.
Like I can look back on it and people tell me things I said.
I'm like, oh, man, I didn't say, oh, I did.
Ain't that something, right?
And I can think about my life in the path that I've taken and moments that I've had.
And one thing that is frustrating or can be very frustrating is when people take it upon themselves to decide that they need to humble somebody else.
that they have decided someone else needs to be not down a pig.
There is a particular, unique, and ironic arrogance that comes from when a person decides
that somebody else needs to have their ego adjusted.
I don't think you really get to make that decision, generally speaking, as a person,
unless you're the boss or something like that, right?
You don't really get to do that.
Plus, you're not in all likelihood going to be the one who's able to do it.
Well, humbles you is life.
Now, as a black person, it is easy to have a very particular sensitivity to the idea that
somebody thinks that you need to be humbled or somebody thinks that you are a little bit
to confident because it do make white people.
A little shaky, right?
And so when you hear something about the idea that someone confident needs to be humbled,
it is very easy to go to the default reaction,
which is that these white people just can't stand a confident black man,
which in many cases is true.
But often the issue is that, particularly,
somebody like 22 years old is that person is a bit obnoxious.
I've yet to hear anybody saying that Anthony Edwards needs to be helpful because people like
Anthony Edwards. It really comes down to that, right? People don't like, did not like the way
this door was kicking it. They didn't dig it. But at the same time, Anthony Edwards could go do a
workout with the warriors and be told he wasn't working hard enough and the warriors can tell him
that they would not draft him and he can hear it and then go back and say, oh, I guess I got to step
myself, I got to step my shit up if this isn't good enough. That is the humility that people talk
about that you must have, right? It's not about you being a shrinking violent. It's not about you
being meek, but it's about you recognizing that regardless of how you feel about yourself,
there's still some other stuff that's going on that you need to deal with and that you need
to attend to. But that was an example of life humbling Anthony Edwards. That was life telling
him, you think you're doing it, but you're not doing it like you think. And then he learned,
and then we saw it from there. Shador Sanders,
seemed very clearly to need to be humbled a little bit.
He didn't need somebody to humble him.
He didn't need the league to humble him,
but he needed somebody to let him know
the way you kicking it, you ain't got it like that.
There's a little bit too much dipeth on your chippeth.
You can't, that's not going to work for you.
You're going to need to dial it back
and realize that you're not that dude yet, right?
And maybe you can earn your way into that place.
but I appreciated hearing the way that he handled things with reporters.
And look, maybe it's just lip service, right?
Maybe that's just what he's paying.
But the truth is, that draft should have been a learning experience for him.
And I appreciated the fact that through it all with those cameras in his face,
he kept his head up high.
He did all of those things, right?
He has not been beaten down.
He has not been bowed.
He hasn't been any of those things.
But at least from right here, it seems like he learned something about what he might not have done right in the first place.
And that's all you can hope for with somebody that,
is that they can recognize those things when they happen, right?
Because one thing that I said this about Angel Reese, and I'll say the same thing about him,
I don't understand you grownups, you adults who encourage these young people to act like
jerks.
I do not get it.
Like when Andrew Reece said that she didn't want Jill Biden to come into the locker room after they won because Jill Biden had them eliminated in the Sweet 16.
And there were actual adults who treated that foolishness like something that was worthy of praise.
Because you're trying to relive your life and you wish you could have done that when you were 21.
You dumbass.
That was stupid of her and it was stupid of you to think that that was something that was appropriate, right?
All the people who just ran up with your door after folks are telling you what went down.
and just being like, yeah, you see, they just don't like that he is confident in himself.
If they didn't like that he was confident in himself, I don't know why they drafted anybody else.
It's football players that made it to the NFL.
They all confident in themselves.
What are you talking about?
What are the shrinking violence that show up to play pro sports?
What are you talking about?
So it's just always blown to my mind all these adults who in these circumstances don't look at this and recognize,
hey, man, these people got some growing to do.
they don't need your defense as much as they need your counsel, right?
They don't need your capes as much as they need your arms around them.
Hey, don't think he played that that way.
You can't be so caught up in grievance and the people who have aggrieved you
that when people are doing something wrong, you can't stop and say,
hey, man, I still love you.
But let me pull your coat to what was going on, right?
Let me pull your coat to what you did, right?
And it sounds to me like somebody pulls your door's coat and instead of trying to be defiant,
he realizes this is the business he has chosen.
This is the way it needs to be played.
And yeah, they didn't draft you early.
It's not about them anymore, though.
It's about you.
And now is your time to step up and do your best.
And the truth is, if you get out there and you do your best and you don't make it to the league,
I know it's not going to feel like a win to him, but it'll be a win to somebody like me,
because I realized where it started for him and all the things that they did to get him to this place.
Congratulations to him for even getting this far, right?
But in these moments is when you've got to look in yourself and focus on what you can do to get better.
That's what it sounds like he has done.
I applaud him and the people around him.
And I would say his father, I think, has to be high on that list, right?
I applaud them for the way that they seem to have come in after the fact on this.
Because there's a good chance that he will be a starter for the Browns at some point this year.
Old as Joe Flacco, Dylan Gabriel, who ain't no better than him.
They got somebody else that ain't good.
Like, I think the circumstance.
Small hands, Kenny Pickett.
Can he pick it?
That's right.
His chance is here, right?
Like Shadour has his opportunity.
Good for him.
Credit to him.
But I am glad that rather than dig in.
and listen to these fools on the internet,
you ain't done nothing wrong.
Somebody at the very least got in his ear
and was like,
even if you ain't doing nothing wrong,
you could have done it a little bit righter.
We know you can't be on top of all the news
and information of the day.
No need for the social media feeds.
We got you.
Now, if you haven't heard.
All right, Bo.
This first story is from food.
Hi, I'm Yasmin Tayag,
and I'm a staff writer at the Atlantic
and a co-host of the podcast,
how to age up. I recently wrote about the classic American breakfast. You can probably picture
it, eggs, toast, potatoes, bacon, or some other kind of salty meat with orange juice and coffee
on the side. The reason you can picture it is because it's been a fixture of American life
for roughly a century. And the reason it's stuck around is because all of its elements were,
for a long time, cheap and abundant. Americans of all stripes could afford it. But that just isn't
the case anymore. Eggs have been in shortage because of bird flu. That's caused prices to skyrocket.
The cost of orange juice also hit a historic high recently because of citrus shortages. In the last
20 years, Florida's orange juice production has dropped over 90% because of hurricanes and an incurable
disease. Coffee is more expensive than ever because of a global coffee shortage caused by extreme
weather in Brazil and Vietnam, which produce more than half the world's beans.
And then on top of all that are Trump's tariffs.
Right now, there's a blanket 10% tariff on most imported goods,
which include coffee, oranges, and even eggs.
But if the trade war escalates, even more breakfast foods could become costlier or scarce.
We get a lot of potatoes and the canola oil they're cooked in from Canada.
For now, all of these foods are still available.
They're just more expensive.
But if disease and climate change aren't rained in,
or if bigger tariffs come into play,
the classic American breakfast
will probably have to change.
It might have more American made goods,
like pork or grains.
Bacon and pancakes are probably going to be fine.
But whatever happens,
the defining characteristic of the classic American breakfast
is that it's cheap.
If it's not, then it just won't be the same thing.
Hadn't really thought about it like that.
I know a lot of you don't eat breakfast.
have gotten back into the breakfast eating thing.
And I'm going to tell you, brother,
I can't do it out of it at this point.
Like, they're really about to price us
into having to do it another way.
I mean, between that,
like, the fact that late stage capitalism
and climate change has killed off breakfast
in America.
I mean, maybe they should have warned us about it that way.
Like, you know, recycle or else you won't get the breakfast
you want.
Coffee, right? The coffee game is messed.
up.
Let's just go to the next one, man.
I just, I just, I don't feel like there's anything I can, all I can do is make it sound
worse.
I can't do anything to make it sound better.
All right.
So this next one's about the Met Gala, you know, this writer from the cut really went
deep telling us what exactly happens inside the Met Gala.
As you know, I feel like most people just see the photos, right?
They see the gallery of celebrities that get there.
This is talking about, you know, the band.
of the phone use, you know, how great the food is, how much people walk around and just, you know,
really taking people inside one of the great, you know, probably the biggest event in fashion
of the year, correct? Yeah, yeah, I would guess so. I am, this is what I'm curious about
with Demet Al. Who are the people that get all dressed up and we don't actually see their
pictures? You know what I'm saying? Like they got an invite, but they're not really that famous.
Is it, do you think it's, and also their outfit doesn't stick out enough in a positive or negative way?
Yeah, well, I'm saying this, right? Let's say somehow, some way somebody was stupid enough to invite me to the Meg gal. Right? Let's say that happened. I would have to post my own.
That paid $75,000 for you to go. That is right. How many, how much, how much you said?
Tickets, $75,000 a person. Okay. Yeah. So let's say that I was walking down the beach in Miami and I came across what they called the square group or.
there if I came up on $75,000.
Okay.
Dude, nobody's passing around my clothes.
It's not happening, right?
Like, I could put it on my page and maybe my people will see it,
but no, I'm passing my stuff around.
You know how mad I would be if I'd put together all that stuff
and wear those ridiculous clothes?
And then nobody, like, put it anywhere.
It'd see the cameras go, like, the celebrity in front of you,
the celebrity behind you, and they'd go like this.
Yes.
Just taking pictures.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
But yeah, no, check out the story.
And we'll have it in the description.
But like the, what exactly goes on there?
Because, you know, nobody who's going cares about what goes on.
They just want to put on the clothes.
Right.
I also saw Megan the Stallion got in trouble because she can't stay off the internet
and was posting videos from the inside.
Can't do it.
The article said that like the bathrooms are fair game
because people, you know, want to take selfies or whatever.
But again, folks.
own views is strictly forbidden.
All right.
And our last one is about a different thing that started last week, talking about the jury
selection in Diddy's trial.
Obviously, there are some complications that come at that.
But the pool of 600 potential jurors has been selected.
A lot of, you know, issues that come up here, including, you know, figure out, do these
people know who Diddy is, know what he's done?
Have they seen the video?
So just really breaking that down about all the different factors that go into that jury selection process.
You just raise a fair question for me here.
Who are the 12 people who don't know who Diddy is?
Because there are 12 such people.
I just want to know who they are.
And do they speak English?
I think, you know, people who aren't from who haven't been here the last 20 years.
So that's recent immigrants and 22-year-olds?
maybe?
I mean,
where do you find these 12 people?
Yeah, I mean, thankfully of all places,
New York is the place to find those 12 people, right?
Like, yeah, one would think.
One would think.
You were right, though.
Early 20s is a good place to start.
Yeah, I mean, people who didn't grow up, like,
who only know him as the icon not to musician, right?
Yes, yes, that is your, that is maybe,
your chance. This trial is going to be something, though. Like, I'm not exactly sure.
I don't know what the odds are in him actually being convicted, right? I don't know.
He's got a serious lawyer, right? Like, he's got the kind of lawyer. Look, after A.Av Rocky
beat that charge. Like, that's something we talk about the Met Gala. That's something we need to talk
about. I don't think anybody is won the game of life quite like Asap Rocky. Like, it's one thing
that all he does is knock Rihanna up and play with the kids and every now and then get to
rap, right? Like, okay, there, there, we got that one. On top of that, he beat that case.
Some people are just, you know, he did it right. Come up lucky every time. He did it. He is,
he is literally everything Drake wants to be. Like, no what, Drake kept, while Drake needed to be
focusing on the matter at hand with Kedric Lamar, he couldn't help but still go back there and talk
about Rocky. Why? How could he not be hating on Rocky? Rocky is doing everything he wish he was doing.
It looked like his paper is right.
He got the woman that you want.
He seems to be an actual real live gangster.
He got the whole thing going.
I wouldn't mind being A-Sap Rock and keep it real,
except for the fact that he ain't very tall.
All right, we got another great batch of voicemails.
This wasn't about, you know,
that time that white dude busts you up on the basketball court.
Here's the first one.
Shout out to everybody for making yourself vulnerable
under these circumstances.
I know it was hard.
Absolutely.
Hey, this is Zach calling about when you got worked by a white guy in the basketball court.
Well, when I was in high school, I lived outside Scrant, Pennsylvania.
I played against Chris Ney, who if you don't know, was a guard for the Eli Manning.
Like Super Bowl winning Giants teams, a really good guard.
Well, I heard about him, thinking, eh, whatever, you know, I'm 6, 300 pounds.
He can't be that strong.
My buddy's 250 pounds and 6 feet tall.
We got this guy.
So we go up to Montrose to play them.
We see him.
got a little like mushroom bowl haircut,
little bitty mustache, and just looks like sloppy.
We get on the court with him,
and I have never been manhandled in my life like that.
He threw us around like we were nothing.
And he was graceful.
Just dropped about 25, 30 points on us,
about 25 rebounds, walked right through us,
didn't say a word, strongest person I've ever encountered in my life.
He moved me with one arm farther than anyone I've ever.
ever just tossed me out of the way like nobody's business.
So yeah, that was the time a white guy gave me work on the court.
All right.
Number one, underrated is a lot of those offensive linemen play basketball.
Like that is a thing that gets lost.
A lot of them play basketball.
Big Strong got hands and they look, they're slow for football,
but they're not that slow for real life, right?
That's number one.
Number two, right?
I was hoping that there would be some white person who decided they wanted to jump in on this.
And there we go.
Don't you worry?
We got a few more of those.
And also, I really like a good verb and manhandled is perfectly specific for that situation.
It's way up there.
It's way up there.
And look, when somebody says they've been manhandled, there's no mystery as to what's going on here.
Yeah, especially manhandled by a former NFL offensive alignment.
Correct.
All right, here's our next one.
Hey, Bo, what's up?
I'm responding to your product about the last time you played basketball and you got busted by a white dude.
So my name is a John.
I'm calling for making.
but I was in the Air Force and I was stationed in Iraq.
And on the back of the base, where I worked at, we would have this helipad
where we were flying in patients.
And we had a basketball goal out there.
You know, we get a little bit of downtown.
We'll get a little gang on maybe some 21, horse, whatever.
We know a little two-on-two.
And we had this surgeon that would come out there from time and time to check on patients.
And one time the ball rode over to him, he said, I'm going to have to come out here
and see what you guys got going on.
And we were like, oh, whatever, Colonel.
You come out here anytime.
You know, my boy talking at,
Colonel, you come by any time,
I might beat you so bad.
I might, you may have to want to bust me down with my right.
So one day, Colonel got a little bit of free time.
He came out there, he played against us,
and, you know, he warmed up, he's stretching.
We're old man, he got the two socks on.
He over there.
He's stretching in his Air Force shorts and whatever.
And he comes over, man, he's taking the game,
man, he just started playing it.
Man, he's just shooting that thing from everywhere.
I mean, stand up, just shooting,
shooting.
I mean, one time my boy got on him,
and he crossed him up, and he pulled back,
and he shot. And my boy was talking trash to the colonel. The colonel wouldn't say anything
at this point. And then, man, it was like he went from, like, he went to touch like the
incredible hope. And man, he caused my boy, he was scoring on my boy. He said,
he should have been there when I dropped 25 on Tim Hardaway. He said, oh, he should have been
there when I dropped 25 on Josh Grant. And Josh Grant, he played for the voice for a couple
years. And he told my boy, he said, I'll continue back home for how disrespect
for you been to talking to me. All right, that's all I got. Thank you.
He said they should have been there when I dropped 25 on Tim Hardaway.
And let me tell you something.
If he really did drop 25 on Tim Hardaway, we could call it Tim Hardaway right now.
He would remember exactly who this person is that we was talking about.
Absolutely.
All right.
Here's our last one.
Hi, Beaumani.
So calling in in response to your voicemail prompt, let me just start off by saying,
I am a white man.
I play basketball at an HBCU in North Carolina.
So my senior season, we have a game out in Washington State against, I think it was a school called Western Washington.
You know, Division II basketball.
No one's ever heard of them, but they were one of the top five-ten teams in the country that year.
And our team was perfectly mediocre.
I think we went one game over 500.
So around Christmas, we fly out to Washington State, drive from Seattle like another two hours to wherever this school was.
out in the middle of nowhere.
We're going to play one game, drive back to the airport and fly back.
So just a quick trip across the country, flying coach, you know, tons of fun.
So we walk into the gym and lo and behold, we are playing a team of 100% white folks.
I mean, it is literally the whites versus the blacks.
And then here I am sitting over on the bench.
just like this is extremely uncomfortable.
Now, they were one of the top 10 teams in the country.
They kicked our ass.
I mean, every which way.
Blast in us.
I mean, probably 20, 25 point loss.
We get back into the locker room.
We're all sitting there.
It's just like, dang, you know, just got killed.
Got to get home like it's, you know, towards Christmas, like all this stuff going on.
Nobody really wants to be there.
One of my teammates comes in, he sits down on the bench.
You can tell he's taking this one a little bit harder than everyone else even.
Head down, towel over his head.
And he looks up, and he just says, damn, blew all the way across the country to get our ass busted.
As a pregnant pause by a bunch of crackers.
And then he looks up, looks me in the eye, and he goes, no offense, man.
And I thought for a second, I was like,
Like, huh, you know what?
I'm not offended at all because I kind of feel the same way.
All right, my money.
Love the show, man.
Bye.
White basketball players, man.
It's a different thing.
It also leads to the interesting question philosophically about where the word
cracker falls in like the slur, non-slurred continuum.
Because there's a wiki.
I forget who I was talking to and having a conversation about.
this. But there is a wiki page for both Florida Crackers and Georgia Crackers, and it is a very
specific group of people who are crackers. It is not a slur in the way that is presented at the
wiki. Like, you know, Florida, the Swab, Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Ben Hill Griffin is listed as a
Florida Cracker. Now, I feel like this is a discussion that the whites need to have amongst
themselves. I fully understand. It's not for me to get into. But this guy right here had the
moment where he was like, huh, yeah, I feel you. I feel you. I feel if you made the decision to
play basketball at an HBCU as a white person.
Yes.
You are accepting that possibility being, you know, called that from time to time.
I will say this, though, from, see, you won't get called.
We're a little better about it, right?
But you're going to hear it.
You know, more likely, you're definitely liking to hear it.
And I will say, though, from his tone of voice, word choice and everything else,
it doesn't sound like he was hanging out with the locals.
Like, like, he does not have the white dude who went to an HBCU voice.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, no, which, again, makes it more likely that he heard this and was called this.
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