The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Mahomes ACL tear ends Chiefs era, Sherrone Moore Saga unfolds, Philip Rivers returns | 12.15

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Bomani Jones reacts to Patrick Mahomes ending his season with a torn ACL and discusses what is next for the Kansas City Chiefs. Later, he breaks down everything going on with Sherrone Moore & Michigan and wonders where they both go from here. Finally, he reacts to Phillip Rivers' comeback for the Colts, the Rams big win over the Detroit Lions, Kalen DeBeor saying he is staying at Alabama and much more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us. Give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater.

We will get to the Sharon Brown story. Sorry, we did a lot of pre-recorded last week. And then that shit happened. So, you know, shouldn't have left you. Without a dope beat step two. However, it just works out that way sometimes. shrung more. You know who I was mixing him up with Ryan? I'm

the center the old senator from Ohio. Yes, I was. Yes, I was. I was missing him up with Sherrod. How does he say? Sherrod. I think, yeah, it looks like Sherrod, but I believe it's Sherrod. Yeah, I think he goes with Sherrod. And I wonder like, they don't make a lot of either of those.

Right. And when Sherrod like became a thing, was he sitting around saying y'all is saying it wrong? Right? Like, like, it means you're just insisting like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is Sherrod. And somebody was like, hey, Ron, what you say, bro? I ain't even really understand you like that. It depends on what parts of Ohio he was in. Yeah, I have so many questions because I also feel like his Sherrit precedes the proliferation of charades in the largest society, right?

Or perhaps when he was born, I guess. somebody thought it was, he had a different daddy. You know what I mean? Many things are possible. Anything can happen anyway. It is Sherald Moore. You are correct. And I'm glad I had funny jokes to make off of that.

Otherwise, we'd have had to re-rack and start it again. However, we're here. Here we are. We're rolling. We'll get to that. And now I have to put on my solemn face because Patrick Mahomes has a tour on ACL. Best quarterback, I believe, that I have ever seen.

And one that I don't have the greatest interpretation of his play this year, but I'm just not inclined to believe that out of nowhere, he became terrible. Lamar Jackson is creating a similar conversation, although he, he don't play good. I don't understand that either. But either way, with Mahomes, Satorian ACL, it happens. Basically, like, they weren't going to win that game. They're not going to go to the playoffs. So almost in a way, it wouldn't have mattered if they were 13 and 0, right?

Mahon's here's this ACL. All of this is moot. It's a wrap on you guys. You're done. They try to garden a miss shoe out there. Like, come on, man. It isn't going to be. Now, obviously, you don't want your quarterback to suffer a major injury.

But I think it's very interesting to consider at times. like ACL still sounds like ACL. Like, you know what ACL, at Toy and ACL is in a lot of ways? Toron ACL is a lot like the word millionaire. Okay? And here's what I mean about that. Millionaire at one time meant someone who had $1 million

or someone who made a million dollars a year, however you want to put it, right? Okay. However, what a million dollars means is much different now than what it used to mean. It used to mean you had a much more of a staggering sum of money because inflation, da, da, da, da, everything else, right? So, like, the people who are millionaires now, the word in technically speaking may mean the same thing. what a million dollars is, but in the actual function of it, not quite. But when people call somebody a millionaire, they still mean it like they did back in the

days of Daddy Warbucks, right? They say it the exact same way. They mean it the same way, but a million dollars ain't the same. Toy ACL is very similar in the sense that while it is a lot of injury, just as a million dollars, is still a lot of money. but Robin Leach ain't showing up on your house for no $1 million and there's a little bit less doom and gloom around the idea that you have a torn ACL, right?

I think it is fair to assume that at some point next season Patrick Mahomes will be back. I think it would be silly to try to rush that process, right? You don't need to get yourself on no Robert Griffin all in for week one situation, go ahead and take your time and take this opportunity to look around the place and ask yourself, what kind of changes is it that you need to make? Because maybe y'all need to make some changes.

And I say that because, Ryan, how many, what they went, 15 games last year? Yeah, they went 15 and 2. They went 15 and 2, and they went to the Super Bowl. And yes, they got their clocks cleaned in the Super Bowl. and it was a bit of a cliffhanger season, but they won 15 games last year. And I think most of us believed that they got better.

Right. After last year coming into this year, the advanced numbers, like we talked about this DVOA, they were top 10, DVO18, but they lived at the margins last year, and this year at those same margins, it was going in the opposite direction. And that makes it somewhat difficult to evaluate

how good you are or are not, right, from where I'm standing. I do think, and you tell me if I'm wrong here. Chris Jones is a thank you for the memories. We're going to play a real long video when you come back and play against us for another team, one that you will try to seek out in your own division because you're going to be mad. Right. Right.

Like Chris Jones, Denver Bronco. I don't know anything about the cap or anything else, but that's the kind of stuff that happens. Right. They're going to have decisions to make about him. Travis Kelsey. This has to be over. Right. I mean, I don't think he's been bad.

this year, but I don't know how much money you can keep pumping into this. He's, I don't know how much more he's going to want to do. Like, you think he want to come back and play with no garden to miss you? And he's got, uh, let's say other things he can do. He does. He, he does. Matter of time before he and Clay Thompson get a podcast together.

Clay Thompson, you see that where, uh, Megan Stahey put that video up. I heard picking out his clothes for him and then putting that thing on him. And then he showed up in those. close. I'm surprised that he even still comes to the games. Right? Like again, again, someone with better options. Yo, he is in and I look good good for all the people involved. I would be very clear about what I'm saying. Everyone involved seems very happy. Yeah, but Clay Thompson in particular look like that kind of like I'm in college love. Right. Right. Like it hit you for the first time and college love can definitely have you skipping classes.

Like like I mean, I don't know why. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know how much long is she going to keep all rapping, like all of this, but I look at him in particular, like, now I don't even know, and y'all ain't even good. Yeah.

You're good, I'm sorry. You want to talk about going through the motions and practice. I didn't think, especially with that dumpster fire that they've got over there. Oh, yeah, who wants to go,

go to work and hang out with Jason Kidd? Yeah, yeah, when nothing's going the way that it was supposed to, you see, you see, what's his name, lively, he got hurt. Yeah.

So, like, all the reasons we thought they might be able to make, you know, make something out of that situation. They're a trade Anthony Davis. Yeah, it's, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think the Mavericks and Clay Thompson have agreed to a contract buyout for X amount of numbers feels very marchish.

Yes, although it's entirely possible to Clayton, none of this bothers him. Yeah. He could be, he might just be showing up to work like, oh, man, we lost again. Yeah. Shucks. Shucks. I'm going to go back to my very famous, very attractive, very talented wife who's also a very good cook on the side.

And my four championships rings that I've already acquired. And my nearly $300 million I made playing basketball. Why does he still come to work? I don't understand why he still comes to work. Patrick Mahals might be itchy to get his ass back though, but that's neither here nor there. Talk about a spouse who might start a podcast. I'm just saying might. I don't know.

I don't know. nothing that's going on in their life, right? I've seen enough of Clay Thompson to know what's going on there. Patrick Mahalb's, I have no idea. I'm just throwing up the possibility that you might be out here putting in work, right? Aggressively attacking his rehab. Right, yeah, here I was talking about he ain't going to get back for week one. You never know.

He might be like, no, I'll be back for OTAs. Who's to say? We got somebody we'll talk about a little bit later that apparently, you know, did want to be home that bad himself. But they got to figure some stuff out, man. Right? Like the chiefs are in a situation now. And it's not just simply that they have to figure some stuff out.

They have the opportunity to do it. This can happen where you get something a little bad happens. And now, you know, sometimes it is that somebody will go in and they'll have one surgery. But since they in there for the first surgery, like, go ahead and be like, okay, well, since you're going to be laid up. why don't we go ahead and do this scope on your ankle too, right? That happens sometimes. Feel like that is the situation the chiefs are in.

This is a question that my good buddy Charlie Kravitz bought up. Well, we were talking both bouncing things. I was preparing for our various shows. But Kravs made a very interesting point about this. Kyle Shanahan over there making it happen with Matt Corkle Jones. They got a receiver. They spent like $30 million a year on. they just got rid of him.

Like he doesn't even play. Christian McCaffrey has gotten old, George Kittal is, whatever age he is, whatever. But you hand Kyle Shanahan, whatever, Kyle Shanahan will cook up an offense for you. Andy Reed has perhaps the best quarterback of all time. And I mean, we generally agreed that what they had going on at receiver was pretty good coming into this year,

especially after they got Rashid Rice back, right? Like, remember, we thought that anything that we thought was short with that offense, well, once he came back off of that suspension, we're looking at it like, oh, okay, cool, we're now they're going to be straight, right? Like, I felt good about seeing Thornton. Like, they had speed. They had guys that can at least get down the field and get open. They're not able to generate much offense.

They're not able to run the ball. This game against the charters, they couldn't run the ball. How much of that is scheme, right? How much of that is not a question of how good the coach is, the question of how good of a job the coach is doing given what they had. Like, now's the chance and opportunity for them to do the math on all of these things. Because worst case scenario just showed up, man. Like, like, this is the thing.

We're at that time of year in the NFL where now the guys are dropping life flies. And we're not at the point of the 17th game of the season. But, I mean, I think some of this does wind up being cumulative year over year or whatever. But every additional game of football you play is another chance for a catastrophe, right? That's just kind of how it goes. Michael Parsons, that sounds like an ACL tear. Brian, they say in all the things they say when they know it's an ACL tear, but they just hope it against hope with that MRI.

You look at Adam Schefter's Twitter and Michael Parsons, coach commenting on Mark Parsons, does not look good. Sean McVeigh on Devante Adams does not look good. Pooka Nukua walked out of that game. He ended up coming back. And of course, you know, what happened with Mike and Patrick Mahomes today. Yeah, Devante Adams, I was watching that play as it happened.

It looked like, it's that old sniper. Yeah. Right? Like, he just went straight down. Like, this is, can your team hold up, right? That's just really what this comes down to. Now, from this point for the rest. and if you're in a position where you lose your best player,

now you really check some things, right? I'm going to say this, though. I know the Cowboys, they play the Vikings. We recorded before that game because we don't really care that much. But I tell you, it's a high possibility that Jerry Jones is going to say the wrong thing. You know, so I'll tell you people right now, it's 823 Eastern Time when we are recording this. So if Jerry happened to say something like, well, you know, we were a little bit fearful

that's something like that. We'll talk about it on Tuesday. Yeah, I'm saying. That is why we decided to trade him. I don't know that he's going to say that, but it's totally in the cards that I can look like a psychic. And he says the exact same thing

that I'm talking about right now, because Jerry don't be remembering that anybody is out here listening to him, paying attention to the words that he says, right? It could happen. But also there's this possibility. Ryan, let me get you back on this. I'm curious what you think here.

She's been doing this for 10 years, man. Right. Like even in the presence of the greatest quarterback we've ever seen, maybe this is how a run is supposed to end. Yeah, I mean, you look, you obviously make the AFC championship game 17 years or seven years in a row, excuse me. They've been making the playoffs every year from 2014. Obviously, some of that predates Patrick Mahomes.

Right. In the Alex Smith years, I think Kelsey was probably, had a piece in all of that. Yeah. So like you look, I mean, the cumulative effect, they've essentially played an extra season's worth of games over this last half decade. And that has to have a wear and tear at everyone on that building. Yeah, like whatever it is,

it's going to be the next stretch of this run. So I think the Brady years are the Patriots. I feel like we can break down into three stretches. Um, and the stretch is really, the, uh, inflection point is Randy balls. Right. Right. Like there is to me. On both ends. Right, right. It's before Moss, during Moss, after Moss. And during Moss, to be fair, is only, like, what was it, a three-year stretch? Like 0-7-0-08-09 and then 2010 is when they traded them to the Vikings. But those are the different runs. Like, now that middle one has this 17-0, I mean, 17-1 season or 16-1, however it turned out. I mean, yeah, 18-1, there we go. That run had that, they had the year where Brady gets hurt, right? But then even in 2009, he came back, he was really good.

good. Like, that team was one thing. It was built around another paradigm when they did not have any great receiving threat. Like you had very good Troy Brown, for example. You had Dion Branch. And then after, it is the tight end era. It is Rob Grancowski, the stretch with Aaron Hernandez. It's basically when they started throwing a ball to the white boy. Yeah, I mean, you're not even mentioning West Walker or Julian Edelman. Yes, yes. Chris Hogan. Remember? Yes. Yeah. Danny Mendola. Gutter Olshevsky. Right. That's just when Belichick had the had the Google alert, right? Just, hey, look, they must have been a nonprofit,

like a placement organization, like the one that puts Pol Black kids into prep schools, right? Like, somebody had to be like, no, if you just sit down and interview them, you'll see what we're talking about. And we'll make it work. But whatever the run was, that run is done, right? I guess we would call that the Mahal. It's really kind of the Travis Kelsey era, as you, you know,

you're correct in the Alex Smith part, right? Like, Kelsey's kind of the bridge, but obviously we're talking about Patrick Mahal. right. But if we say it's the end of Kelsey, it's the end of my homes. This is going to be to split. Look, you got tickets to sell and everything else, but you don't put him back on the field until, like, you put him back at the end of next season so he's not starting. Like, when Paul George broke his leg and they brought him back for eight games at the end of one year because there was no reason to come at the top of the next year with him, like with all that, whatever was apprehensive or whatever wasn't solid. Like, go ahead and work that stuff out now.

But if this is the end of that run, that's what? Five Super Bowls, three championships, a 5,000-yard passing season, three MVP's. Yeah. With maybe the greatest tight end of all time. With possibly the best tight-in in the history of the Kansas City Chiefs, maybe. Oh, interesting. Oh, no, no. Look, and this is no, not to Travis Kelsey.

You could make the argument that Travis Kelsey is the fifth best tight-in in the history of the AFC West. Gronk? Oh, no, I don't know. AFC West. Antonio Gates, in no particular order. Antonio Gates, and Tonyo Gates, Shannon Sharp,

Kelly Winslow, Tony Gonzalez. Tony Gonzalez. Dave Casper is also in the Hall of Fame for whatever is worth. I don't have the same frame or reference on him. That's just to say that is the division of Great Tideon. Yes. It's all I'm saying. Is there Antonio Gates,

had a hundred-something touchdown catches. Yeah, see, I mean, his stats look unreal. I mean, obviously, like, people, like Shannon was unbelievable. Williams was unbelievable. Like, those are, or you said, it's a conference of great tightness. Yeah, but this is the thing I'd say about Gates. That's a bit different relative to all of them is that Gates was a number, like Shannon Sharp was a threat as a tight-in.

Antonio Gates, I feel like for the entirety of his run, was basically the number one receipt. Right. he was that, I don't recall a Tyree Hill. Correct. On the, on the Antonio Gates watch. He was that guy, right? Let's say a hundred something touchdown.

Yeah. It's like, you know, we talked about Philip Rivers and people, you know, the idea that Philip Rivers is going to the Hall of Fame. If he does, Antonio Gates is a significant reason why that could happen. But now, this would be an unreal run that they have had, right? Like just nuts. it is kind of whack that it would end

with the Patrick Mahomes ACL tear, but I don't think he's done. No, quickly, there are, there are always seven receivers with more touchdowns

than Antonio Gates. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I think people miss a... And one of them were not allowed to name on the show.

Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it's not like, like, look, it just to be clear, how tight is to me, there's a,

there's two lists. There's the list that has gronk on it. Yeah, we didn't, yeah, we haven't said the word grok yet. And then the one for the rest of you.

Yeah. Like that's the like the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, man, like, don't let my buddy Nick get y'all out here lying to y'all selves. And if it's not Nick that's got you saying that, stop smoking crap. Ryan, what you jump on here with me. So, because you can vouch for the truth in this.

I was telling you about this that, uh, so we are recorded all of our episodes for the week by Wednesday. right we had some travel situations to deal with and stuff like that so we got everything recorded early thank you guys also for checking out the interview with uh alex stapleton director of the diddy doc right we appreciate y'all on that so anyway um charade more was a wednesday night wednesday it was it was wednesday yeah wednesday evening yeah wednesday at the four o'clock hour we know we have time stamps it was wednesday in the four o'clock hour that the worry got out that he had been fired and i immediately started hearing some

wild stuff, right? People immediately, and when I say I'm hearing, I'm not saying it's like I'm some kind of journalist, but it was enough that it was like, oh, wow, there's stuff going on here, right? So I was getting a call from all the networks all day long of CNN on Thursday.

It's like, yo, can you come on to talk about this Michigan coach? And I'm like, hey man, I don't really got that much to talk about, but I'm going to be honest with you. I'm hearing that a lot might come down the pipe. So I'm a pass on this. And they're like, well, Here's our reporting. I'm like, yeah, I don't think, I'm going to just not talk about none of this.

Yeah. It's five days since I said that. And I personally feel like now it's finally appropriate to talk about this. Like, I'm so glad that there was nothing that was offering me any pressure to talk about this before because we needed stuff to happen. And the thing that I didn't expect to happen was that he was going to be arraigned in the white jump suit. in a rubber room. Right.

I mean, he took his arraignment on Zoom. On Zoom. Like, yeah, like it was 2020. It's over, right? Like, after this is done, we will never see his face again. Think about this. He doesn't turn 40 until February.

Okay? He got a dream job. And his entire career is over before he turned 40 years old. Right. Now, Ryan, I feel this is a time where it's glad, you know, I got you here with me and that we are of somewhat different cultural backgrounds, right? Right. Because we can just acknowledge that for all parties involved here,

the story is made more salacious by the fact that he risked it all behind some young white woman that worked in the office. His assistant. Yes. This is still a hot button issue in America, right? Like, it don't get people killed necessarily, but it still hits people, right? It's, it's, and that is squarely where we are in this. I don't know how it's going for the white delegation, but I can tell you for much of the black delegation.

The fact that this gentleman lost it all behind that particular white woman and that particular station in life is not going over well with the people. I do not know what he will have to do to get sympathy from the folks. But as of right now, he's got a long way to go. He's got a long, he's got a really, really, really long way to go to get sympathy. I'm not going to tell that very good joke that I have. in mind because I just don't need the misinterpretation and the aggregation. But yes, he has a long way to go to get back because he lost it all behind this. And that, that was before we started hearing that he's that guy. What guy? That guy, right? The guy that get caught slipping, living in a

college town, sleeping with the woman that works in the office. Like, that's not a really uncommon story. It's a bad idea and it's wrong, but there are also a lot of romances that start with similar sorts of stories, right? Like, I don't think people are that terribly offended by the idea that he had a relationship with somebody in the office. But with the understanding that if you get caught, you know, you got to deal with whatever comes. It's an industry that leads itself to that situation. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. For a number of reasons for what is worth, right? However, when the people find

out that apparently you'd be hitting them up on the only fans and you were exchanging messages with the woman off to only fans during the national championship game, per her telling, per her telling. Just throwing that out there. And

clearly this man has a problem. Right? He has a problem. And then he went and bust up in his woman's house, allegedly. with a knife, allegedly, threatening to do harm to himself, allegedly, meaning that there's a great chance that he's going to jail behind this. Like, not forever jail, but I don't, it seems totally in the cards that he could wind up going to jail for this.

I've never seen any, I can't name anything like this. I have nothing comparable that comes to my mind in terms of what a, like, every term seems corny, like fall from grace, whatever it is. Like all of these things just seem absurd to bring up. However, if it makes them feel any better, you're not going to go down alone. Because if any of you have ever dreamed of being the athletic director at the University of Michigan, I think you'll have a chance to put in an application, right? and I believe that you'll have this chance to put in an application

because apparently a man that they knew might not have been all the way straight. They fired him for cause and only the athletic director was there with him. Now, I'm going to give Ward Manuel the benefit of the doubt here. What if he felt like he knew this person and that he was afraid that things could get worse if there was a lot of people around and he thought that that was the best way to manage the situation? I'm going to just tell you like this. I don't seen people walked out of the office after getting fired for under far less combustible circumstances than these.

Okay. I've seen people make the argument that they should have had mental health professionals there when he got fired. I'm going to be honest with you. My imagination is not that good. I never would have thought about that, right? Like, I just, I mean, it makes sense. I'm not saying I don't, I'm not saying I don't hear you.

I'm saying that I personally. never would have thought about that. But some big motherfucker to wrap him up, you know what I'm saying? If things get a little wild, somebody that can, you know, because Sharad Moore ain't small, he played offensive line.

You know what I'm saying? They got to be somebody. Where the strength coach at? Ain't no way in the world. I would have done that by myself. No, sir. Could not have been. Anyway, War Imanuel chose to do that,

and then that man ran out of there, ran up in that little white girl's house with a knife. You're not keeping your job after this. I just want to know this Ryan was at the Wall Street Journal where you say me in that link with that with the article Yeah the 24 hours Yeah and I just want you here with me

Because I don't think I'm going to get this wrong But just to make sure I you know I say to get this right this is a very important detail They had done in previous they've done This is not the only investigation by the way That they have done a Cheryl Moore And his dealings with women In the office on campus or whatever it is

but they had done an investigation about his relationship with this particular woman, and they had been in a relationship from 2022 to 2024. Okay. And they didn't find any evidence. And the biggest reason they didn't have evidence is because she said no and he said no. And I don't, look, I don't know exactly like what powers they have. They can ask people to turn over phones. I'm sure the company issued phones they can or whatever.

But, you know, I don't know exactly what they could do. but they said their investigation said that there was nothing to it. And then out the blue this week, this woman calls up and decides to confess her sense. That's what the article in the Wall Street Journal said, right? Am I expected to believe that she just decided to do this out of nowhere? I'm not saying that it changes anything about the outcome, right, or what there is to say about more.

what I am saying is I would like to know why that decision was made because what's that lie, Ryan? Just because you paranoid don't mean they ain't out to get you. Because they got, he is got. Right.

He is as got as got has ever been. That just seems to be an incredible turn of events. Like who knows what it is that happened in the 911 call, the woman said that more had been stalking her, right? That is what she said in the call. Maybe that, if that's the case, right? Maybe that led to her calling and saying,

hey, do this thing that'll fire that dude. I don't know. I don't understand this. But the fact that this just happened out of nowhere, something tells me, we're going to find out a lot. Did you see they're going to do an investigation of a whole? Yeah, everyone's getting, it's going to be, I think it's going to be more.

than just the AD. I think it'll be more than just the AD, but how thorough investigation do you really think that this is going to be? Yeah, I mean, let's put it this way up. They've been doing a lot of investigations in that building recently.

Yeah. So this is one thing, though, I think about with Michigan though, and I'm curious your thoughts on this. So I've seen the this is a like deeply corrupt program sort of arguments, and I get that. but right i i feel like these things don't have that much to do with one another right no like

so one thing that was interested with carter stallions the reason that more got suspended behind that is that he deleted text messages before he turned his phone over but then he came came off of those text messages and there was nothing incriminating in right right they had that weird thing with the dude that was stealing signs and i'm sorry it was wrong but it's so funny yes i can't find myself like getting to that place. This right here, I don't know how exactly this ties in with like the idea of a corrupt program, right? Like this is weird things happen in offices. Like I don't. So I guess this is what I don't know. How many offices have a circumstance like this and what is the likelihood under those circumstances that somebody tells or that something is actually done? Somebody in a

boss like capacity is having a relationship with a subordinate. I feel like it's more likely that people let that slide. Right. Than it is that people enforce it. That's not to say that they shouldn't. But that's what, yes. Yeah, so I don't find that to be an example of a uniquely corrupt culture within the athletic department.

You know what I mean? Like, I'm not sure that that's the argument to make here. But that's what it's going to be, right? That's what they're going to have to overcome. And maybe Michigan is trying to do a truth in reconciliation. before the public, and they're going to go through all their shit, and they're going to tell everybody everything that was wrong. But I didn't think that they were stupid, right?

Call me cynical, but I didn't say like the smartest thing. Like, these are not people of great honor. Correct. So I don't know what investigation is going to be. I don't know what they're actually going to do. You remember when the dolphins had the bullying situation and they put together the Blue Ribbon Committee and that committee still ain't never had no meeting.

Yeah. Like, not one. but they can't just win the press conference here. Like that's not going to work. I do think that now that they've said it, they're going to have to come up with something. But consultants generally are people you pay to tell you to do what you already wanted to do.

This, no matter who the investigation is, this is an example of the consulting business. That's what they are going to have. They're going to run through this. And they're going to come back and be like, you know what, it's actually not as bad as we thought. It's crazy, right? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But we wanted to go back here and make sure everything was okay. Yeah, yeah, we're going to be fine. Yeah. Like, it's actually funny, right? Like, as we talked about this more, I had in my head envisioned because, you know, I don't do it like I did it when I was a youngster in this business. But, you know, I like a little dark humor. Yep.

You know, and I feel like I have a fairly sophisticated understanding of the edge and where you can stand and talk on these things. and I will say that this case has tested at many points. My question of, is this funny? Not so much the macro, the big is this funny? Because that actually is not. But there's little funnies along, little potential funnies, I think,

that I had seen along the way. And then my edgy brain, I was like, yeah, I'm going to get in here. Maybe we go, no, I started. feeling less and less funny. The more I thought about him sitting there in that rubber room. Yeah. Right?

I was like, oh, this isn't. This, no, no, no, this isn't. No, no, it's not. Like, this is. Can you imagine if this was a story about a coach that we were more familiar with? No. This was A1A1 from Wednesday. Like, really until this, until the home store is easy off.

Yeah, but imagine, imagine if this was, and I'm just throwing a name out, right? Imagine if this was Jimbo Fisher, right? Like, I'm not even talking about Nick Sabin, right? I'm not even talking about like dabbo or like a super famous coach or Kirby Smart. Just somebody that, oh, I remember him, right? Right. Imagine it's Jimbo Fisher that did this.

What? Like, we don't even know who this guy is and he has America captivated. Right. Right? Like, actually, who is the coach that you would be the most shot? Kirby's up there. Kirby's up there. Did you see the Nick Saban quote going around?

I did not. What was it? Let me pull this up. I want to make sure to get this right. It's about, you know, Nick Sabins. Oh, from the book? From the book. Oh, I do know that quote.

If you can send the screen cap to me, I will read it word for word because this story has been denied. And so what? Yeah, so what? It's funny. Yeah, we like it better. And he's basically,

he's in the locker room with the dudes at LSU. And honestly, man, this is the kind of story that, like, maybe this is a man that you let raise your son, you know, help your son become a man. Like, he hitting him with some true gang, right? And he was talking about dealing with women and, you know, these young boys in college.

And I do remember that, before this excerpt, there's something where he's, like, he's using like the P word in his discussion of, like, talking about dealing with, but he's just, you know, he hitting him with some true game. And he says here that ultimately, you never want to sleep with anybody who has less to lose than you do. So ultimately, if I'm ever going to sleep around on Miss Terry, it's going to be with Hillary fucking Rodham Clint. Now that's funny. That's hilarious. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, because somebody put together an AI video of Nick Saban telling that to Sherrod, Sharon Moore. Sorry, sorry, I was not called him Cedarna Moore.

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All right, Bo, let's get to some more stories from the weekend. Phil Rivers actually played. They almost beat the Seahawks. He was 8 for 27, 120 yards, a touchdown, and an interception. But what was your biggest takeaway from seeing the 44-year-old returning to the end of election? I mean, as long as he didn't die, right?

But I watched a couple drives, and he was a Larry Holmes All-Star, man. Like, they look at flabby as sick. So the thing about, I feel like the guy that comes back at this age is typically either going to be like in your mind or like when you do the movie, like a Kenny Stable. type that you imagine who's just been smoking cigarettes and drinking Miller,

Miller High Life, right? And then they call him and he's like, all right, you know, I'll come out here and play a game like smoking cigarette on the sideline or something like Jack La Lane type, right? That's just like, you know, an incredible shape. It always read it for it. Dead ass in the middle is Philip Rivers. It looked like he ain't never done a push up in his life, right? Like I work out for playing football by playing football. He always had that funny shot put motion and everything else, but he was always a highly entertaining watch, right? He taught cash shit out there to people, and he got it done, man,

you know, only invariably for the charges to blow a late lead, and all his efforts were for naught. And what do you know? All he did today was a far less entertaining version of that right there, because it was not a fun watch. It wasn't a sad watch.

It was really insulting to Riley Leonard, I think that's the best way that I could put it. It was just kind of confusing why he was even out there. You know, like that's probably the best way that I could put it. It was just confusing. But he had them ahead at the end, only for them to give up a field goal and to lose the game. It is, are we at the point where we ask some questions about the Seahawks? Because this game should not have been this close.

It is, I cannot, I could not take my eyes off of it. I, with all due respect, I just disagree. I thought it was strangely compelling. I understand like the idea of like secondhand embarrassment, like not being able to watch, but it looked like a mix of like someone like, you know, like a backyard football game, or telling stories about how they were all stayed 20 years.

I just couldn't get anything out of it because the balls were taking so long to get there. He was throwing the lollipops over there, Jack. Like, it was just, and they weren't, like, snatching them and running them back. Like, I think that was the thing. Like, if he was going to be bad, I needed to be all the way bad.

Like, he needed to be all the Peter Man. He ain't, he ain't give us none of that. It was just kind of, it was nondescript. He might be back out there. That's what I'm saying. Riley Leonard, nope, don't want to make that joke. But Ronald Litter should be very upset if they were to, to do that.

I just, I was surprised I see people my age who were saying how they were like, root. I guess I don't view myself the same way to these other middle age people view themselves, right? Like, oh, I did not find it inspirational. I found it, I sounded very, very funny. I did not find this inspiring at all. I was not rooting for him. I, this is stupid. Yes.

And I'm just, I was, I turned in to Adrian from the Rocky movies. Like, you can't win. Yeah, I'm just hoping he doesn't get turned to dust. Oh, man, that's great. All right. Not so great football news. The Rams beat America's team 41 to 34 in a shootout we mentioned earlier. Devante Adams went down with the hamstring injury, Pukukua, left with an injury.

Bo, your thoughts watching this game. Yeah, man, dropping like flies. Like, I actually, it was a game that reminded me why I chose this as the team to rule for, even with them not winning. They go, man. Like, they're down so many dudes. already going into this game, right? Down both safeties.

I think this is the most recent development. And that was, at least for the first three quarters, it wasn't as great at the end. This was an incredible game to watch, right? It was highly entertaining. Jared Gough played really, really well. But, you know, looks like the Lions are not going to make playoffs this year. And you know what?

Like I said, it's cool. Me and Nick, I'm going to just go to his house during the playoffs and we're just going to be over there hating. we're just going to be hating for a muff. That's all we're going to be doing, right? But hey, man, it's dropping like fly season. I mean, you just look around everywhere you go, man. Everybody's dropping like flies.

There's going to be a lot of this is just who can hang, who can persevere. But that's where we are. All right. Going to college football now. Kalin DeBoer says he is not leaving Alabama. He said in the statement, we have an incredible opportunity in front of us. So my sole focus is on Alabama football. and our preparations to play Oklahoma.

I have not spoken, have no interest with speaking with anyone else about any other job. I'm fully committed to this program and look forward to continuing as the head coach of the University of Alabama. Bo, are you surprised? I thought that that was a very strong, strident,

while simultaneously, legally non-binding statement. Sounds like he's no negotiating for an extension. Yeah, yeah, like those reports are coming out about it. I just want to see how he feels after this game against Oklahoma. Same. Right, which could go either way. It's going to be blazing hot for you if you don't.

Now, I will say this also, something that I think is interesting about the playoff that isn't quite discussed because I've seen people make the argument because Alabama lost four games last year, I want to say, and they have lost three games so far this year. That means in all likelihood they're going to lose four games this year. Almost certainly, yes. One thing this playoff does is. is add to the number of good teams assured to end their season with a loss.

And nothing makes your season feel worse than ending it with a loss. Right. That's, that's a thing. And that's kind of what's happening here. Like if they were just going to the Capital One Bowl and got to score up against Wisconsin, well, not Wisconsin this year. But, you know, somebody like that and come out of there with a dub, I think this might have gone over a little different.

better win this game against Oklahoma. Basically is the thing that I'm saying right now. Right. Again, the monster has not been revved back up. But we looked at that contract, Ryan, it's like 70-something million dollars to buy him out. It's like three if he leaves. So it's something impossible. Yeah. Like if he leaves on his own, it's something like four million dollars. Like I, and I respect Alabama on that front. Like, we ain't going to keep you here, except here they are. Apparently negotiating this extension because they know that job. They, they know they got crazy job. And if I'm DeBoer, I guess the problem right now at Michigan is that they in the midst of chaos, but I would definitely listen to what they had to say.

Absolutely. All right. And moving to the NBA, semifinals of the NBA Cup, the Spurs upset the Oklahoma City Thunder. Wimbiama made his return to action. He had some words for SGA after the game. Let's take a listen. I'm just glad to be part of something that's growing to be so beautiful. So pure and ethical basketball, you know. Okay. Did you watch this game?

I saw clips. I did not see the game. Okay. Me and my brother watched this game. Victor Wimbunyama played seven minutes in the first half. His plus minus was plus 20. It was unreal

watching the one-man impact that he had on this game. Against the overwhelmingly best team in the NBA. Overwhelmingly best team in the NBA. He hates them. Okay. He hates them and he hates Chet. He hates Chet number one, right? Like, Chet's missing free throws. He's clapping at the, you know, he hates them. But that clip right there about ethical basketball, that's him talk about the thunder and how the thunder be cheating, right? Now, the thunder have a very interesting approach when playing against him, which is he's seven feet five, and they just try to take his rock every time he dribbles.

Right. As soon as he dribbles, Caruso's going for it. I would not be surprised to find out that the Thunder practice, the peanut punch in practice. Because they're just going for the ball. They go for the ball like you do when you're too young to be playing basketball against the age level of people that's out there. And that's the only hope you have is to try to take the ball. Like, that's what they're doing.

But he doesn't like them. And it's so great because with him, maybe they can challenge the Thunder. Like the Thunder probably go, Thunder, I think, are going to win 70 games this year. There's a good chance they can break the wins record. There are teams that can challenge them. Denver, I think, can give them a challenge. We're going to see what Houston ultimately is.

But this one right here is the rivalry, right? And what they did, and I'd say this also about Nick's Magic, but it's very important, that NBA Cup felt like something. Like in watching that game, it felt like a big game. I don't know if that's tied to the event or is simply tied to the way that these teams feel about each other. But these teams feel away about each other. And it starts with the fact, I was talking about a man, Jason, about this. He made a great point. He was like, can you imagine how unsurious Victor believes that Chet is? I can only imagine. Right? Like, like,

Chad out here on his B-Rad, Victor goes to hang out with the Shaolin Mucks. Like, and y'all tried to say he was better than me? Oh my goodness. It's going to be like just for a long time with these teams. I love it. All right, Bo, vo voicemails. A lot of good ones. Here's our first. Hey, Bo. This is Tony from Las Vegas. Long time listening for a time calling. I know what you do. So I've been able to listen to you guys long enough to know the original story of Lawrence Frischburn. So, leads me to a question because it reminds me of your disdain you have for Lane Kiffin. So the question I have is who do you like, who do you dislike more? Lawrence Fishburn, Lane Kiffin, Stringer Bell,

for the New Orleans Saints. Thanks a good time, Beau. Keep doing what you're doing. You know, the best part about Stringer Bill and not being a real person is I don't have to respect his humanity. That allows me to lean all the way in on like, you know what though? Once you put Lane Kiffin in, there's this a little bit of a tough call.

Like, my, you know, my issue with Lawrence Fishburn, I don't know if he's a bad person necessarily. I just felt like for those of you who don't know, I was working a press junket once in the year of our Lord, 2003 at the, I believe it was the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. And the way in press junk it works is they're doing two different ways off. Oh, no. Anyway, you put a bunch of reporters in one room or at one table, like six or seven. It's like for a movie cast, you rotate the cast around to the table.

So it's like a bunch of many press conferences. And this allows you to, you know, get more work done going around the room. and so I was there to do an interview with somebody else. And they sent Lawrence Fishburn down at the table, and so I wasn't really paying no attention to him. And he tried to call me out and made me ask him a question. And I did. It was a good question, too.

I don't remember what it was. And that jerk was just like, no. And just tried to play me in front of all these people. It was white people, too. Like, I just didn't really believe that that was appropriate behavior coming for him. But, you know, the world got him back. Right? But that was just one day.

You know what I mean? Like, that's, you know, I can't say that I don't approve of what he stands for. Like, I don't approve of what Stringer Bell stands for or what Lang. Stringer Bell is the answer. Stringer Bell. I feel like Lane Kiff and the Stringer Bell got a lot in common, though. It's going to be an interesting year. All right, here's our next one.

What's up, Bermonti, this Corday from the Bay. It's a follow-up to the voicemail you play. No, I'm not adopted. This is my grandpa's idea. I know you from Houston, Texas. My grandpa's from Dallas, Texas. I don't know if that guy has to do with it, but also my grandpa looks like James Brown

except he's 6-2 and the truck driver. Yeah. You got a parr? So after we, so it was his idea all of a sudden to start going to Yosemite, and we hadn't went in years, so he decided, oh, let's go when y'all are,

y'all all are 18. and that's when we missed the bear stuff like that that was the last time my family went because my mom was like, I ain't dealing with this stress again, but my dumb self, I dealt with the next year

with some non-black people and woke up one morning to the sound of bear again, but I was in my tent and I was with some non-black people and they was like, bear,

I was like, no, wait. Waited like two minutes. It's okay now. I was like, no, let's wait again. I was like, because let's just wait for cautionary. Then we eventually got out of our tent. And when we got out of our tent, someone yelled, hey, good thing, y'all didn't get out of your tent. Because the bell was right in front of your tent.

And that was the last time I went to Yosemite. That's Corday from the Bay. Yeah, so those you, Corday from the Bay last week, told us the story. about how he was fortunate. He went to take a walk, shall we say. And while he was gone, the bear had come and they was at Yosemite. And I was trying to figure out what was going on. But these black people at Yosemite and he gave the answer. And then he just said that he went with some non-black people to Yosemite. And he said, what happened? And I will just tell you, tying back to the conversation we were having a little bit earlier, if my spidey senses are correct.

And he's talking about he was out there in the woods with these non-white people. If the bear had ate him, they'd put him in one of them memes that I've been seeing going around with Chirot, Cheryl Moore, who else, who else they put Mel Tucker in the picture? Who else? Who else they have been there? But if you had got a, if you had got ate by a bear because you was in the woods with some non-white people, I get the feeling you'd have been on the same list. All right.

Here's our last one. Hey, Bo, first time, long time from the White. to Northern Michigan. I met my wife in the wilderness of Northern New Mexico at the World Farge View Camp in Simaran, New Mexico. And so I was not walking with my cousins, but I was walking with my future wife into the woods. And we were doing things that young people do when they get away from, you know, nature taking its course. And, you know, bears are known for two terrible eyes sense of smell. On the ground, writhing, and I looked up, and I saw this big old bull of the bear come walking up towards us, and I got right up, had to protect my lady, threw my overalls on,

and I started yelling and screaming, and hey, bear, get on, when you see a bear, and I'm waving my hands, and that old boy just kind of stopped and made a different direction. He did not change taste. He was not scared. He didn't care about me at all that he needed to just keep walking. And I was the lucky man that day. That's for sure. Thank you. Ryan, the last thing I expected was that voice and everything kept getting even more and more unexpected. It built to such an amazing crescendo of defying expectations. He just threw in, went to the world's largest youth camp as an aside. Yes. Yes. Yes. He did. He did. And also, I don't think he knows what kind of Walt.

Hey, shout out to you, big baby. Like, big dog. He was having a great time. You was making it happen. But shout out to you also, but throwing all your overhauls. That wouldn't have been. He said extremely northern Michigan. I'm assuming that means the upper peninsula.

And I don't know if you know about that place. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It is, that is one of those I need to look up. Like how that works. Yeah. But wow, that was an amazing story. I appreciate that, man.

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