The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Nate Tice Discusses What Went Right for the Eagles and What Went Wrong for the Chiefs | 2.12

Episode Date: February 12, 2025

On today’s episode, Nate Tice of Yahoo! Sports joins Bomani Jones to further discuss the Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl LIX victory. They start off the show by getting into the beatdown the Philadelphia Eagles put on the Kansas City Chiefs (5:09) and why there were so many mismatches in this game. (5:56) Continuing with the talent disparity theme, Bo and Nate talk about the Jalen Carter's "orngery" dominance (11:58) and the Chiefs failing Patrick Mahomes by not surrounding him with enough impact players. (20:08) Bo and Nate round out this show by moving away from football and joke about their little league baseball experience and Michael Jordan's time in the minor leagues. (45:10) . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media:  http://lnk.to/therighttime Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Support the Show:  PrizePicks: Daily Fantasy Made Easy! Visit PrizePicks.com/BOMANI and use code BOMANI for a first deposit match up to $100! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original presented by prize picks. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. By the way, we got an ad free bird to the right time, $5 a month with our friends at Supercast. Be sure to check that out. But for right now, it's the time of week where we have a guest to join us. Coming to us live from Las Vegas, check him out of Yahoo Sports Talk. talking to NFL, Nate Tice was going on.

Not too much. I know. Football season ended, so I had to switch hats up. I put a hockey hat on. This is the one bandwagon I've ever jumped on, Vegas Golden Knights. I moved here and they went on a Stanley Cup run. I was like, this is great. I don't have a hockey team. Let's do this. It is the living proof that if you take a city that isn't that big and you give them one team, they are going to wrap their arms around that one team like nobody's business. Like, Help me out with this with the Raiders, because I don't really like know how it goes. I find the Raiders to be fascinating because they are the only team or the, yeah,

the only franchise where the city doesn't matter. Right. As long as they keep that westward, their fans are up and down the coast of California in Las Vegas. They'll catch them $40 flights on Southwest End the games or drive-in or wherever else. But like the city doesn't matter. But at least from a distance, it doesn't feel like Las Vegas team. It just feel like they play in Las Vegas. When they, so this is when I was with the Raiders,

my second year there, they had the meeting. They called basically the whole staff, not just coaches, but everybody. Everybody that's on the staff in some way should perform. Big meeting. Hey, we're looking at moving to Vegas. And the president at the time kind of just, I mean, it was a long meeting going over why. You know, the stats, why, the data why. And they said, because of that, the Raiders are a national team, even more so what we consider the Cowboys or even what we consider all those NFCE East teams, you know, even the Vikings are kind of a national team.

Gee, all the teams that won in the 60s and 70s are national teams, huh? Weird how that works, talking about bandwagon hopping. But no, but with the Raiders was they originally even for a moment thought just to have Raiders, not Vegas, not Las Vegas, not anything. And even when they named themselves the Las Vegas Raiders, instead of the Vegas Golden Knights, that actually kind of ticked off locals. Because they said, we don't call them Las Vegas Raiders. It's interesting. They chop it. So they kind of lost some local street cred with that, which is including the loss.

And when they said they moved here, a big reason why, hey, why don't want you put the Raiders in LA and the Chargers in Vegas, yada, yada, that national, international fan base of the Raiders, that their fans are willing to hop over from L.A. or the Bay Area or anywhere in the country, do a weekend in Vegas and get out. Would the Chargers have that pull? You know, so the NFL is like, no, we need a team that's going to actually cook that up. So even if they haven't, like, they weren't even worried, yeah, they want to do some local outreach stuff. But they were more worried about, like, getting in those weekend fans, that national fan base.

And that was a big, big reason why. They were just like, we could just call you guys the Raiders and people would come, which so to your point, they were thinking the same way too. The Vegas part is interesting because I thought they were just trying to be too cool when they called the hockey team Vegas and not put the city name on. Like, I never dawned on me that that would be a nod to the locals. Yes. It's like a local saying or a local way to call it. You never say Las Vegas.

It's the Inglorious Bastards three three thing. Like they kind of, you kind of know. Oh, okay, gotcha. But you don't say Las Vegas, just Vegas, just Vegas. And actually, like, I'll credit to the hockey team. Yeah, they won a bunch of the first year. That builds a lot of fans. But before they even became a team here, they had players going out to like,

because they got a bunch of kind of at the time thought of a scrubs, you know, like expansion stuff, kind of a lot of castoffs, their first line, they call them the misfits. They were going to local elementary schools. They were going to local businesses doing the whole outreach stuff, but it was all organic. It's all the Vegas guys. All the Vegas people are like, this is. great. Somebody likes us. They actually like us. And most of them didn't have a lot of hockey fans, at the time, but now it's huge. Like the local team here is huge and stuff like that or as far as

the kids teams and stuff. But yeah, that was part of it. They were saying, no, we want to build an actual base floor operation here because we're going to be here for a long time. I just thought that was super interesting with them. It's why I say, though, that I know everybody thinks the basketball team. There's a great idea. And I think it's a terrible idea. I just don't think the city is big enough to sustain two winter sports. I'm saying the same thing about Salt Lake City. they're swearing up and down to me that they're going to be able to hold down this hockey team and this basketball team. And I just mathematically, I don't see how that's possible.

You need the one in one winter sport into the summer sport. Like you need, if you're in a town like this, like, you know, like a or like a Portland, I know they don't have a summer team. But, uh, yeah, even a St. Louis now, like with the blues and the Cardinals, that feels me in the St. Louis because it was a, it felt it is a bigger city than that. But even like that, you need that kind of winter team, summer team. I've kind of with you on that. All right.

So I don't know if you were still in New Orleans for the Super Bowl. If you were, I hope you didn't get no blood on your clothes. Like that was a, you see beatdowns like that in college national championship games where you just look up and you're like, wow, look at all the, look at all that talent Alabama has, right? Like I don't like Michigan TCU was an example that people, it was in Georgia TCU or whichever one they gave it. Yeah, it was Georgia. Either way it goes, that was a debacle it. And I think you could give better perspective than I could. on just what the talent level is across the board footie.

I mean, you get the accolades to all pros and everything. You get the first rounders. But that's the thing when you have blue chippers everywhere. And that really did feel like a blue chip battle or a blue chip differential type of game. It was like, yeah, you have the quarterback. But all the other positions matter if there's enough difference, the NFL is such a matchup league that if you have a five star going against a four star, okay, you know, or a 95. overall against an 88 overall, okay.

But if you have a 95 overall going against a 75 overall, and then next to him is a 92 overall going against an 80 overall, those are mismatches. And that's what good coaches with a buy week are going to pick at and poke at and identify and go after. So really just saw it up front. Joe Tooney's a great player, but he's not a left tackle. And he's going against Josh Sweat, who, you know,

Josh Sweat, I would say a year ago. I was like, okay, he's fine. You know, a nice above average player in the league. Now I consider him a good edge and going good against average at best. That's an advantage. Okay, now I got Milton Williams, who's about to get $20 million a year and or Jalen Carter going against a undrafted free agent that was studying for school nine months ago. That's a three-tier advantage, maybe even two tiers.

And that's just up front. And then you get into receiver battles. You got Quinion Mitchell snuffing out receivers on the. the outside, Cooper de Jeanne, I mean, just all these guys play after play, there's not a weakness that you could poke at. And that's just the Eagles defense. And then you look at their offense and it's like a pro bowl tight end, all pro receiver, all poor tackle, all pro running back. So that's what it is, is that even if you have, most teams just have one or two matchups that you can poke at, the Eagles are going to have one almost by default every week or

more because they just have so much talent. So that's, that's what it is, is no matter what they're going to have a matchup where scheme only goes so far. It's going to come down to the jimmies and Joe's, and that's what the Eagles have. They got a lot of jimmies and Joe who's on their team. Let's talk about the fact that up front they're just rotating Jordan Davis in. Yeah, yeah. He's just snorwax trying out there for five plays.

Yeah, you're six, six, 350-pound defensive tackle, who was whichever one of them college awards it was that he won. And look, I understand that he has not become a dominant NFL player, but he didn't get no smaller. Right, right. Yeah, exactly. It's not like these guys get worse when they get into the NFL

or get less slim, I should say, or less fit, I should say, even if they gained weight. Even the depth there. That's a great point with the depth too. It's like next man up. Like he's the other guy on the defensive line, right? Is Jalen Carter,

is Nolan Smith is over there playing one of those. He's talking about sweat. And then there's Jordan Davis. Starting 17 games. He don't even think about the fact that he was there. Nope, at all. He could be a role player and he would be a every down player for most, most teams. And then on top of it, because even like Jalick's Hunt was a third round pick they had this year, he starts small school guy. He starts peeking at the end of the year. And it's like, oh, now they got depth.

So on top of Star Talent, the guys don't get any breaks that you're going against when you have depth on top of it, tangible death, not just a guy, a guy that actually can make something out of these reps. I mean, so the other guy, Ajourno, a Jomo, there's this defensive tackle. He comes in and just dominates right there. It's just, they just took turns at it, and that's how it felt. Now, how sad are they to keep this together, though?

Because it always becomes a cap question once you get to this place with the team. Yeah, so Sweat already took a pay cut, I believe, and then, you know, he's a free agent, but Milton Williams, I think, is going to be hard to keep because he's just, he's going to be worth so much money and just going for that. And they're good with their comp, kind of stuff.

I'd be curious that I think they can keep one of those two. I'm curious which one they do. I think they do keep sweat as opposed to Milton Williams, because like I said, Williams is just going to get more. But it is hard to, but that's what's nice. Again,

when you have depth, you have a guy. I mean, they do this on the O line too. This Eagles team. That's what's insane. It's like they go, oh yeah,

Jason Kelsey is going to retire. Oh, yeah, Cam Juergens, don't miss a beat, you know, because now we have a succession plan there. So I think, I think Milton Williams is a guy that ends up getting,

I wouldn't say squeezed out, but it goes on to greener pasture somewhere else just because of the money game that they have to play. So them and their offensive line, and I'm going to get to the Chiefs in a second, kind of tied off of this. But the idea, and Dominique's talked about this all the time, why is it that if you are a team, why are your guards always tackles? Right. Like, why are your guards not always guys that you kicked inside? Why would you not everybody, by a large, you're playing guard because you're not something. remember when Quentin Nelson was in the draft. And I was like, okay, six, five, three, 40, explain to me why he's not playing tackle. He does not have the arms of a tackle. Oh,

okay. So if you think somebody has the physical specifications of a tackle, why not just make him a guard? And just kick him inside. Some guys don't have this play strength, uh, like as far as core strength and everything and lower body strength to kind of stay inside a guard. But depends. This is kind of what Kyle Shanahan kind of did for a little bit or, uh, even the Packers did for a little bit, whereas they would just kind of go, all right, this guy's athletic, enough to be left tackle. I'm going to put him at left guard. Yeah, he might get bull rushed, but guess what?

We're just doing bootlegs. We're getting these guys on a move. He doesn't have to sit back and drop, you know, step back and block these guys one-on-one. But that's kind of why. Usually, if you have that build, it's that leaner power forward build, except your 310 pounds, as opposed to guards just kind of have maybe that ass of a guard. There's a tackle in this class, Kelvin Banks from Texas. Some people think he's a left tackle.

I think he's an automatic guard. It's one of those where I look at him. I'm like, that's a guard. Like, just his build looks like a guard. And I think maybe even just think of like you're holding the gap. Like you're holding steady in there, you know, being stout on the interior. And I think maybe some of that as well as how you can anchor on the inside. I think that's the big thing is that play straight.

Well, it actually takes me back to a question about the Eagles defensive line, which is, and I talked about this. a little bit on Monday. They don't really make the or some bitch in football the way they used to, but central casting sent Jalen Carter to us all. As far as it's just like that was Mount Washington again. Yeah. He just,

he seems very unhappy, right? Like when it's time to play football, he is not in this for the love of the game. Yeah, he, I mean, did you even see him celebrate? I don't know if celebrate is the right word. He, like, stood in his locker.

and just stared at everybody. They had a, they were in Brazil. And I took a screenshot of this. I haven't yet to find a great, I wanted to meme it. I haven't found a great use for it. They were in Brazil and like they're playing music,

you know, with the local, with the local scene. And everybody's just going nuts, going nuts. And he just walked around just going, like this, no smile.

Everybody else is laughing, having a great time. And, but it was great. There's a whole crowds around all the other players. No one was around Jalen. Everybody's like, Yeah, yeah, we're going to give him his space.

And so that also tells you a little bit, too. And he's trying to lift up people all the time. That first hit, he had the first third down he hit on Patrick Mahomes when he chased Mahomes down. Like, it's violent. Like, I've never seen a guy chasing a quarterback down at somehow still deliver a violent hit, like as he's like falling away from him. Like, that's what he plays with.

That's why he's really good. That's why I'm scared of him and I've never even had to play against him. Well, like, I remember that draft and he went number nine. And while many thought he was the best player in the draft, and obviously there was the drag racing situation, which is a reason why a lot of teams did not take him. But even with that in mind, you're the Eagles and you see him at nine, you got to be like, either this is a lemon or we're about to get a steal.

There's no way in between. Like, that's where you go back up to the Raiders. And I guess at that point, the Raiders really, if I remember the timing properly, the Raiders, like, really couldn't take somebody with the driving situation. or that may have been before that happened with rugs. Rugs. Rugs was before it.

Yeah, yeah. Taking Tyrese Wilson over Jalen Carter is one of those that you wish you had back. And that's no shade to Wilson. And it was consensus on Carter too. It wasn't like just like a couple people really liked them and all that. But it was, that's one thing that Eagles have that's a nice thing is they do have a lot of good high character guys. You know, as far as that kind of maybe set them straight, at least in theory. You know, that's the theory of it.

And maybe some teams are like, oh, we just don't have the locker room for that, which tells me kind of maybe what you're getting into with him too. I mean, but that's why you can take some risk. The Eagles can take whatever risk they want. They always just have the picks for it. They have the circumstances for it. We'll see maybe when some of those guys get older, you know, like the Wayne Johnson's and stuff. But, I mean, good time to roll right now.

But, I mean, that guy was the number one guy for months. I mean, anytime you watch now, when you watched, what's his face, Trayvon Walker go to the Jags, you're watching a Georgia tape. And you're like, well, well, that guy is the real guy. The guy wearing the 80-something number is the real dude. Like that's the dude that's the guy that's standing out. And I mean, it was pretty obvious that like he's going to have this kind of impact. But again, just talk about other attributes as prospects or other things like teams consider.

And Trevon Walker, by the way, who's turned out to be pretty good. Like that was nice little number two. That was the rare, huh, number one overall pick. Like generally, you know, like Eric Fisher was one of those. I'd never heard of him until the draft that. It never happens. Walker was the guy that wasn't putting up numbers. And look, he's got into the league and been a guy that's going to be like a double-digit

sat guy. Like, I don't know if he's been number one overall level edge good. Like, are you really happy you took him over Aiden Hutchinson, for example. But you are right on that team. Nah, nah, nah, the dude just wasn't eligible for the draft yet. It was, yeah, he's, well, they have that. They would have teams will have. You have character grades.

You have medicals. And like literally you have your big board. And then you'll see some talented guy on that. other sideboard and you're going oh why is he over there and it's like well character we're not even considering them or medicals we're not even considering them i mean some team's money ball i mean the lions will take guys with injury history you know that's like part of like why they can maybe find some players chiefs will take guys with character concerns that some of their that's some even the punter who who sucks uh they will take both of their specialists have character concerns i would say uh but they

but they just do not like that's part of why oh how they they they get Tyree kill in this class? Well, I could tell you why. Like when you, when you are able to have these guys on your board that others aren't even considering, that is changes how the boards and everything goes too. But yeah, that's, though, it's exactly right. It's like some teams aren't even considered or players, I just say. Now, let's get to the chiefs here. Okay. This year, and I felt like they got far enough this year that I ignored everything I had said about them this year only for it to prove that everything I'd said about them before was actually correct. I'm trying to feel like how I'm trying to find a way to be right and wrong at the same time.

I think that that is the, you know, I was right and then I took a break for the Super Bowl. And if you really think about it, you know what I'm saying? You can rewind and go check all the times that I was right and I just didn't have to resolve. I ain't had a courage to stick by my convictions. You know what I'm saying? Get us to where we're going. I kept saying it was heart versus head. And I kept like, my head was like.

Well, the Eagles are better team. Eagles have this. And then my heart just kept going, but my homes. Right. Right. But Andy Reid with a bye week. Right. Right.

Right. Right. We weren't tripping. You know what I'm saying? No. There was proof of concept of this working a year ago. That's the way I kept coming back to. It was like, everything is telling me no.

But I just saw this happen. And I thought the same thing last. year. And I, ah. Look, man, quietly, very few things are as much fun for people. And I'm just telling you this, they ever get the chance, is getting a bunch of people who do the jobs that we do when we sit around and talk about how I never thought I could have possibly been wrong about this thing.

Like, I've worked with Dan Lebitard after he famously lost the bed to Charles Barkley that the heat would win the finals in 2011 and Charles picked the Mavericks. And in order to satisfy the bet, Dan had to come out at the Clevelander in some speedos, which, not to God. Not your boy. I'm not agreeing to these terms. I guess these are things that bigger people do, right? Like the stakes are high on both ends. Yeah, I don't think I would engage in that, although now I'm not going to lie to you. Now, now that I've been out here, you know, hitting his weights and dragging his cake, you might get my vain ass out there. Right. Also, the outfits and the bets change. Yes. Oh yeah, once you get in shape. Yes, yes, yes. Like, I might do that. Dan, however, was not coming from that place in his cardiovascular journey. But anyway, I started working there with him like two years after this happened. And he was still talking about how I couldn't believe he lost. Like it's still, and this is Dan who doesn't care about these things, right? It's still stuck with him that he thought this one. I'm like, look, the one, the one,

that happened with the bucks, I knew that play one. I was like, yeah, okay, I immediately saw what I had done wrong. This one, I knew the possibility was there, and I still was like, I didn't think he was going to play like cheeks, just straight cheeks. But this is the thing that I wanted to talk to you about specifically about it was they've got a pretty team friendly quarterback contract, considering who the quarterback is that they have. They did that on purpose. They have a young defense that has a lot of talent. But they seem to have made. the opposite of the Jalen Hertz decision where the Eagles have decided to surround him with everything and not ask him to do that much. And with Patrick, they're like, we have him.

I've been this guy at work. It is very exhausting. The idea that you will be the person that will just carry this whole operation. But I thought the whole point of signing that cheap old contract was so that that wouldn't happen. But am I wrong in saying that's what seems to be going on here? It's team friendly, right? We're supposed to help. the team out like where's that all going where's the money gone did we need another producer uh no he had he had a new dirk you're they used to do that to dirk all the time but dirk would be out there yeah yeah yeah what y'all doing with my money yeah now where's that even going i mean brady took the cuts but at least i was like i was seeing some results out of it you know those um you even talked about how the losses

you were talking about levitar too it was like you remember the loss is way more than the wins i i can tell you any take i got right but i could tell you every take i got roasted for Or whipped completely. I go, see, what happened was, it was this happened. And this guy didn't make his block. And the game script would have been different. Hear me out. Go, no.

I'm going to tell you the takes I remember the most. Now it's a whole new wing, not that I work for a company with a robust social media operation. The takes I remember are the ones that were offered that wasn't really my takes, right? So I'm just throw this out here. It happened the other day. I haven't had a chance to talk about this. I was doing Mello show.

And I was making the point that if I were the ones, Warriors, I would not trade comminga to get LeBron James. I wasn't saying I wouldn't trade Kaminga for LeBron James straight up. I'm saying that in the package that involved that you have to put together to get LeBron that start talking about Moses Moody, but I'm not talking about this guy. Man, they chopped that shit up. I got half the people in the NBA thinking I'm a moron because they think I'm saying that Kaminga is a better player than LeBron James. Well, that wasn't what I was saying. I'm saying, I'm not doing this package. I'll remember that forever. Forever I tell you. And I saw it flying around on the internet. I'm like, why does everybody

think this is so stupid? And I'm like, oh, because they don't know what I actually meant. The whole context of it. Well, that was Broncos fans got after me Thanksgiving Eve. And I just, it was one of those where I looked at my social media. I was like, man, I got, get buzzed. My Twitter is going nuts right now. Like, what the hell? Whenever I see that flash, it says 20 plus notifications. And I didn't tweet recently. I'm always just like, uh-oh.

This is good or bad? Like something got into somebody's algorithm and someone. And sure enough, it was like a video about Bo Nix. It wasn't even that bad. It wasn't even that bad. It was not like I was just going, oh, you know, I just have to show some things but he's improving. The run game's decent, all this stuff.

Holy crap. You would have thought I said, this guy can't walk and chew bubble gum. I can't believe the Broncos made a mistake. And I watched the clip, but how it got quote tweeted, like, even though it was that little edited clip, that wasn't that bad. But what happens is it's like people don't read the articles. They can't even watch a minute and a half clip now. And so they're just quote tweeting, you're talking to me.

The stats are bad and this. I'm like, you guys didn't watch it. But after a while, I was like, I'm not replying to any of this mute, mute, mute, mute, mute. It's Thanksgiving Eve. I'm thinking about stuffing. I'm no. Like this is not what I signed up for. the games are tomorrow, we'll move on for this.

But I'll never forget that. I'll never forget the day about it. The day that happened was because of all that. Boonex is a very particular case of a very particular archetype. And that case, an archetype is how you felt about him going into the NFL had a lot to do with just how much college football you watched. Because if you only showed up for the Boonex show at Oregon, yeah, there's a way that you're going to look at this. If you were here for the whole ride, I'm sorry, brother. It's going to take more than one year of NFL football for me to come around.

You know, who else looked okay after one year of NFL football? Matt Corkle? That boy, Matt Corkle down there in Jacksonville looked all right. After one year, it's a long list of guys that I'm throwing a good year out here. Yes, he did. Mac Jones had like a top five rookie statistical season in the last 20 years. It was up there. He had a pretty good situation around him.

matters as well. And also it's what you got to watch what these guys are asked to do. And that's why I can still won't anoint Knicks. And I think, oh yeah, he's fine. But my write up even on him was this guy could be a solid starter in the right system. Not saying franchise guy, not all this. Right surroundings. I should say not system, but just surrounding ecosystem. Sean Payton's a great ecosystem to start with. A good, like one of the best offensive lines, and I got to give credit to them is a great ecosystem to start with. But again, it's got what you're asked to do. And that's why I kind of just can't go like, oh, yeah, yeah, that's the guy. You can be fine. But it's just, is he a true needle mover? Uh, uh, because he hasn't shown any different

than what, like you said, even at Oregon when he was sent to the completion percent of stuff, it was like, yeah, but he's got pushed the ball a little bit. You know, there's still a little bit more. I'm looking here. It's still a bit more fluidity in the offense and everything. So I'm with you because I still think when things go sour, you see the Auburn Bownicks creep up a lot more than the Oregon calm boonix. And I think that's what Peyton's trying to. to harness a little bit. It's the Sam Donald, right? We just saw the best that we could possibly see of Sam Donald. And then we looked up and we were like, hey, that looks

a lot like Sam Donald now, doesn't it? Yep. That's, uh, I always think of, he's not the best example for this, but the Tebow fixed his mechanics storyline we would get every offseason, every single offseason. Yeah. And as soon as the bullets started flying, as soon as he got a pass rush at him, there's that ball drop to his hip. as he's whining up the throat. And I was like, so what happened? Why do we care?

They revert right back to what they are. That's what Josh Allen sometimes when he gets a little. Yes, he does. First trying against the Chiefs, he's amped up. Yes, he does. When you revert right back to, ball 10 yards over a guy's head. It's like, man, it's kind of how I realized early in high school and like my knees quit me before this became a relevant thing.

But when I realized that there was but so far with like organized basketball and I was going to go, which is they had never reached a point. where a full court press was not a for-alarm blaze in my mind. Like, the press goes the same way every time. Get the ball back to the middle. They get you here, you get it there, you get it there. Like, it is a pretty simple ABC sort of situation. Whenever I got the ball, boom!

Yes, yes, that was chaos. As soon as you see the duck, as soon as the trap comes and you see the guy duck. Yes. Yeah, it's just like, oh, man, this isn't like, like that. That was what is. I bet right now, if you said two people to double me on the sideline, it could go either way. It's quicksand.

Quick sand. Yeah. I remember our first time I was on it. Basketball, man, one on one, I had something for you. Two on two, I had something for you. You keep adding more people. I'm a thinker, not a reactor. That's, I could never.

And I think that's what happens to a lot of guys playing quarterback is, yeah. You are a thinker and not a reactor. Like, look, man. I don't want Dan Marino to do my taxes, but he's a reactor, right? Like, you get him out there. He's got it. Brett Farve, clearly not a thinker, but quite a reactor.

No, this is, that's a best way to articulate that. Obviously, I'm talking to you. But that is something I've tried to get on because I am a thinker, even at quarterback. Like, I can get on a whiteboard and be the best, best with them. I could, hey, what's this protection? How you draw it up? They do this. You draw it out.

Oh, yeah. that's why I can do this review stuff because I got 15 times to watch a film and break it down and everything. Then you get around guys. And I would say this like a guy like Daniel Jones, obviously a Duke grad. I heard he's tremendous on the board, all that stuff. What happens when the bullets start flying? Freezes. This isn't what I pictured.

Like this isn't what I, this isn't what we did on film the entire week. It's like you got to play ball. You got to be in the NFL. Yes, we want these guys to be sheriffs and just these. do do do do and some guys can do that 80% of the time it's about that 20% where it's shit hits the fan like what do you do off script or even just ad lib just a little bit like just doesn't you can stay on script but maybe just okay do a little sidearm throw or take that extra little hitch and get rid of the ball this is why i love may um drake may is because he you can tell he's a freaking football player

and a gamer on top of having some other stuff too but i've always tried to figure out a way to kind of articulate that because even a guy like Russell Wilson who I backed up, Russ is good on the board, like real good on the board. And he's the ultimate, you see him play. It turns into a lot of improv and it turns into a lot of creation. So he's kind of funny where he is actually classically trained until he gets onto the stage.

And then all of a sudden it just goes out the window. And that's why a lot of coaches and why he thinks he, oh, yeah, I'm a mini Drew Brees. Because if I ask him to do stuff on the board, he's great. But actually how he plays does not match that at all. So I always think that's like a disconnect.

the guy like that is just like what they say they can do or show they can do but then what they actually do once the once everything goes live i like that that was a bigger racker you know what i didn't even go charge you i didn't know i've been trying to figure out how to articulate that for years because daniel jones is always my example with that like and and myself just going like no i could tell you everything to play the play install fifth read on everything as soon as the defense did one thing i wasn't expecting i was fucked you know so and they're then And there's guys that are like that, guys that doesn't matter what they see or they're prepped for and stuff. So love that.

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All right. So we're back with Mike Tyke. Not Mike Tice. Nate Tice. Slight difference. Slight difference. You know what I'm saying? Only about 75 pounds. You know what I'm saying? A slight difference that we got going on. I think you nailed it. I got the eyeball for the situation. But with the Chiefs, it does seem like offensively, their move has been like the high dollar positions on offense now are quarterback, wide receiver, and tackle. And where the Chiefs don't seem to be great is at wide receiver and their interior line seems to be great. Are they asking Patrick to do too much?

Because right now we were just going off of statistics. We got five, six guys that we would say are better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes. We're not going to say that because that would be preposterous. But it doesn't feel like as much as we talked about, oh, he landed in the perfect situation for him. If he landed in this current situation, we would not say that. Right. I think what happens or when I'm watching that, and I see a lot of Bengals fans using that game as like, see my homes can't handle pressure like Joe Burrow does you know what Joe Burrow is still throwing to

even if he gets pressured T. Higgins and Jamar Chase they have a true overwhelming strength at one of those spots and the chiefs don't uh Xavier worthy is a role player to me d'andre Hopkins is best years is three years ago Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey does it was bad like that was a real bad performance from him now just as a receiver but blockers too blocker as well too so even if the offensive lines falling apart. Now it's not even a strength because our left guard is playing left tackle. And then our right guard, Tray Smith is about to get paid. And there's been much better. He had a bad year last year. Been much better again this year. But he's not, he's not great.

But he's more, I would say, solid to good. So we have a center. And that's it. And we paid all, we have all these resources. We have all this investment. We have a first round picket receiver. We have a highly paid guy on the offensive line. We have a highly paid right tackle. None of those guys have justified the investment. They might be fine. They might be solid. They might be even good. But the investment in them has been so much higher or potentially higher than that. So like Joe Tune is getting paid a lot, but that's to play left guard. Now he's playing left tackle. Now that's a bad investment. Yes, I'm just using that as just like a mini example of that. So that's where it's like, okay, who are the other needle movers on this offense? All the best quarterbacks need other needle

movers. Even when you get to Allen, Josh Allen, it's, oh yeah, Dionne Dawkins is all pro caliber left tackle. Spencer Brown was one of the most improved players in the NFL. That's right tackle. Their interior three are all fine to above average, maybe even good. But there's no weakness there, but we have a needle mover at left tackle. That's already one more of the Mahomes has this year. I mean, maybe the center. So maybe one of each okay there. Then you got good, good, good all across. James Cook was a needle mover this year. Receiver wise, they have a bunch of solid. I'll just say solid. solid guys out there. But the investment in it isn't matching what the chiefs have invested in their guys. You know, like, so that's fine if Khalil Shakira is solid. He's a fifth round pick.

You know, uh, maybe don't Concade. Maybe want a little more out of him. But that's where I just go with the chiefs is like the investment in these guys has not matched their production or match what they do for the offense. Yes, they can do what's asked of them. In the NFL, you have to do more. Like, that's why you get paid. That's why you get drafted high. You, you change what the rules are. You break what the rules are. You do more than what you're given. Xavier Worthy got washed out on the first play that was designed for them. That's not why you're drafted in the first round. Yeah, you're going to get another first round corner, but you're drafted in the first round to win. Like that, that, yeah, it's not easy, but that's the NFL. And that's why you're supposed to be good. So that's

where I just look at it. It's just, I was trying to break down what they're going to do this offseason because I'm like, they still need so much. They need another skill guy in some way, shape, before them. They need two. They need a running back. They need a tight end, but They need at least another receiver, maybe too. They need a left tackle. They need a right guard, potentially, potentially. Like, oh, my God, that's a lot. So I'm with you that it's like, this situation is not great right now,

even with the investment in it. I just can't point to a lot of needle movers other than Creed Humphrey. And that's the center. That's it. The margins of the NFL are so thin. They were this close to a three-beat. And we're like, hey, guys, I don't know what they're going to do. They just beat everybody.

They were supposed to beat, right? They went through young, up-and-coming CJ Strout. They went through Josh Allen. Yep. And we're still like, which raises an interesting question. My buddy Kravitz sent this to me. I'm going to, it is from a Reddit post,

and I don't know how territorial they are about citation, but I like to give people credit for ideas that are not my own. This guy calls him so Western customer 536. Can't believe I'm reading out whole such a name, but here we are. But he said this about the chiefs. He says that they 1983 themselves. And the point he makes is this. All the quarterbacks from the 83 draft went to the AFC.

Elway Kelly Marino. The defense of the AFC went light and fast to stop them. Then they lost the Super Bowl every season from 83 to 97, right? Riggins was the MVP of Super Bowl 17. The hogs were the stars. They started an arms race for bigger and stronger offensive lines. Defenses would compensate. They all got big and strong.

And it wasn't until the zone blocking for the Broncos came around. that the AFC kind of swung it over again. Now, to me, one thing that kind of ignores, though, worth noting is that the 49ers had Joe Montana in that run, right? So let's not, let's not ignore that part. The Cowboys had Troy Aitman in that run. Like, we can't ignore that. But the NFC. Yes, right, right. And the 49ers, quiet as is kept. The part that they didn't get credit for, George Seaford should be in the Hall of Fame. And it's not just because he won the two Super Bowls is because he was the coordinator of what for the duration of the 80s was probably the best defense.

Those 49ers defenses were nuts, right? Yes. But it did make me think and find it interesting. The NFC doesn't have quarterbacks, but when you look at who the best teams were in the NFC this year, they mauled you, right? Detroit was here to mall you. The Eagles were here to mall you.

We could kind of go like, Washington's a little bit of a, like, tricky case. But they had a really good run game, actually, this year too. So, yeah. and Brian Robinson. So yeah. Right. The Vikings, they were not rioting Sam Donald on this, right? They were strong at the line of scrimmage also. Best running game that they had since Kevin O'Connell got there because Aaron Jones, the Rams run game. Right. They mall you. Like, I mean, yeah. The point of both McVeigh and Shanahan system-wise is we're going to beat you up. That's part of why 49 is hurt all the damn time, right? The NFC is playing beat you up ball. And the AFC is doing what in all likelihood you should do with the quarterbacks that you got. But I do wonder how that. that will go when we get to these Super Bowls, because look, it's not just that the Eagles beat a team,

built a team that could win with Jaila Hertz at quarterback. Jaila Hertz is still making $40, 50 million a year. Like, it's not like they're getting them cheap. Right. And what's also too is what, look at the transformation some of these teams to try to make in the AFC. The bills felt so much better on offense this year because they went, no, we're making sure our run game kicks ass.

And it did for most of the year. Like, that's why I was super high in that bill's offense throughout this year. It's like they have Josh Allen. Who cares who playing receiver? because the all lines good and the run game's really good. And explosive. So like that's like you got to be able to do it too, especially what defenses are doing now too. That's also the thing too is that the I always use the term ecosystem, but the meta going on

right now, okay, if teams want to run quarters and they want to try and go we defense lines are better than ever right now too. That's kind of another thing. So that's why getting offensive lines and run games and everything helps. It's just an equalizer. It's hard not only to have a quarterback drop back 40 something times to beat a, a DBs and coverage shells, it's hard for him to move in the pocket 40 times to find throwing lanes and not get hit every single time. That's exhausting physically, mentally, just awareness-wise.

But even the teams too, like the Bengals offense this year too is, I think that's been an under-a-thing with these Joe Burrow Bengals offenses. It's not the sexiest run game, but it's efficient because they just get those four or five yards and they're able to do all that. It's like, but all these teams are trying to find ways to balance it out because it's just so hard to play hero ball if you just can't rely on the run game everything to watching like the chiefs back they don't run the ball much this game but just even on the playoffs too it's like just it was efficient it was a you know one of my i think they're like top 12 and success rate it just it was like everything had to be perfect and that and we just talked about it was like man it's the NFL like it's like guys

have to take advantage of what they're getting and that's where it just felt like it was like my homes obviously had to be perfect but it was like the line had to be perfect the play call had to be perfect. You need somebody to like create something easy for somebody else, whether it's the line for everybody else, the quarterback for everybody else, or the coaches for everybody else. And it's like, if you're missing that, it's just like, who, this is a grind. This is an absolute grind. So I'm with you. The AFC kind of has that quarterback advantage, but I always thought the NFC, even when I was breaking down before the playoffs started, I was like, man, look at this run game. Look at this run game. Look at this run game. And the quarterbacks were kind of the secondary figures on those

offenses. Well, you made a point there that mattered and it also ties back to the Super Bowl what with my homes and a place where I think you and I both, I mean, you are obviously in a different place where you are an actual football player. But like I feel like you and I hang with the nerds on the football, but not exactly like of the space, right? We appreciate. Yeah, yeah, we appreciate, we appreciate what they have to offer and think that there's a perspective there to be added. but I do think the part somehow that gets overlooked, which is this is a hitting game, right? And you can scheme up all this stuff and the whole idea, like I've said for a long time, that I think the nerds misunderstand that no matter what the math tells you about why it's more efficient to pass more,

passing is so hard. Like I think the mere act of throwing a football, right, go get 10 people in a line and ask them to throw a football and three of them will look like they know how to throw a football. Like I don't think I know how to throw a football. I think I can. But the spiral ain't going to go straight. It's going to spiral at some angle. Like throwing a football is just a difficult thing and then add all the pieces and everything

else. But in the end, it's a hitting game and you get hit early. You want less of it as it goes, right? Especially as players get older. But that's the thing. We saw that with my homes. They were lighting his ass up early. And I don't know how much time or whatever.

I don't know what it actually was later because it looked like nobody was open. But that getting hit early matters in the way that you see things later. Like in basketball, John Thompson used to tell the guys block all their first five shots. It don't matter if it's a gold 10, although remember is a block. And that's just getting your shot block. We're not talking about getting your shit rock. That's just getting your shot block. And so those mauling teams that you know are just going to, like, I know everybody's hitting hard,

but some people hitting hard. Right. And also when you run the ball, everybody on defense has to be sound. When you throw the ball, it turns into an ISO game. Yeah, yeah, the protection and everything. but it really turns it into a one-on-one game. And so that's like, yeah, if you have any advantage there, I'm going to throw go balls all day and stops and all that,

but most teams don't have that advantage every week. And I'm the run game thing, I'm trying to, it's like pitch framing, like in baseball. It turned out, once they've realized we're able to break that down, baseball nerds were like, oh, it's really important. Oh, catchers are really, really important, even more than we considered for years and years and years when we had Sabre metrics and everything.

and fielding and everything. It's like just because you can't encapsulate exactly what it is does not mean it's not important. Number don't, you know, number don't always go up. Graph don't always go up. Like, so I'm with you. The,

I had this one time where the Titans weren't running the ball well. And I just remember I was talking about my old podcast host, Robert Maze. And he was like, why even when they're not running the ball, why did the play action work? And I go, I know if I'm 185 pounds slot defender.

And that action is coming at me. And all I see is, well, I got to fit the D gap against Derek Henry. That's the first thought in my mind. I don't care. It's not going, wow, they're only getting two yards of pop. I should not worry about the run game. It's, nope, I have to tackle him again because if I don't, he's off to the races. That's their first thought through their mind.

And it's thinking about taking that knee to the chin and then seeing Derek Henry run right by you and run over you. Like that comes into all the time. But also you can't remember saying like, oh, yeah, I didn't play. or like it didn't play football, that stuff. But the first thing people were taught in football is not throwing the ball. Offense alignment aren't taught to kickstep at seven years old, 10 years old.

They're taught to run block. Receivers are run blocking the most of their lives until they get into high school and then college. Quarterbacks are handing the ball off 95% of the time. You might get one kid that can throw deep, but he's not throwing articulate routes, you know, meticulously timed routes at 12 years old that people say all these stories that they are. it's like, shut up.

No, they're not. No, they are. But that's the thing is like, you're taught first to run the ball first. That's the first thing. And defend the run, block the run. Blocking is one of the blocking and tackling. Fundamentals are important. These are two best tackling teams in the NFL this year, Eagles and Chiefs,

by every stat, every metric, missed tackles, yards have to catch, all that stuff. So, yeah, that stuff absolutely matters. So just that human element always just kind of, we're going to figure out a way to, you know, get that data point for an articulated, but right now I'm in, trust me, bro, kind of stage of my analysis with it. It's so funny you mentioned that, though, because I played football in seventh grade, and I played split in and a three-back offense. And so the part I don't think, I don't know if everybody realizes this, okay?

But like, I skipped a grade and then my birthday is at the end of August in a state that rolls over grades in September. So I was July with August. I was the same way. Yeah, right. So I'm like two years younger than the grade, and then it's seventh grade. So you understand what's going on. And the kids that was the beast, obviously,

were the ones that had got left back before. Like they was, you know, they was out there in a different space. Okay, cool. But you play split in football in seventh grade. It is the most boring existence that you could possibly have. Nothing is going on over here, right? And if you play defense and you play corner, then it's even more boring because they mad at you

when you don't stay with your man over here at receiver, even though they're never, ever going to throw him the ball. They're staying one yard away from the sideline. Yep. Because they're trying to create space. Yep. Like, as the split, you don't even really get a chance to block in seventh grade because the dude is not, he's not respecting your presence over here.

He's just going over there. It's in Little League. Remember, Little League baseball, they always put the worst fielder in right field. Yes. Because no right hand of bad air could hit opposite. at field. Yes. So, yeah, we put the kid over there.

Ball's never going that way. That's how it always felt. Little League football, too. That is the greatest honor. Like, I was actually pretty good at, like, Little League Baseball. I could do that, right? And because, like, if you know where to throw the ball, you are so far ahead of the rest of your peers, right?

A little speed and a little know-how goes a long way in Little League Baseball. But my pride is every now and then they try to be, you know, rotate it around, be nice and and have the better players going to outfield, you know. but they never stick me in right. I'd have quit first. I'd have quit before I play right field in Little League. I knew, I would have known. Because you knew what that meant.

That would, not of what I would have known, that would have meant. I would have known I had no business out there. I saw the other kids. I knew I wasn't supposed to be over there. It's funny you say that it was, one of my little league team, I was like six or seventh grade. Same thing happened. They were just kind of like, so I was first base pitcher, play some left.

They put me a catcher or something. They kind of played everywhere. But then one time they put me at right field. because the kid was sick. And I remember just looking, going like, and they're like, we need you in the lineup. So that we just, just go out there. And I just remember, even in sixth grade, I was like, you're having me take Jimmy's spot? I know what Jimmy is.

I feel less insulted by the bench. Right. I'll just wait until I pitch, you know. I'll just wait. When's my next spot in the lineup? Because I know all of us have to hit, you know, something of that sort. So, yeah, that's exactly it. Like, you put me on the bench.

I'm going to sit there with a clipboard and act like I'm doing what I would see on TV where the starting pitcher was charting the next game. You know what I'm saying? But you put me in right field, man. I don't care if you hit the ball dead in front of me. I ain't getting that shit. Born, trotting up. Am I here?

You can maybe even throw a guy out at first. That sometimes happens. The Tony Gwyn. Literally faithful. I don't think there's any game that has a wider range of good and not good. Like how good the good is and how bad the bad. is like Lily Baseball. It is wider than anywhere else.

When you get that Danny Almonte, when you face that one kid that, can we check his birth certificate? And we, oh my God, we played a kid. I'll never forget his name. Marty.

Marty ended up playing basketball in college. He ended up being like 6'9, maybe 6'7, somewhere of that range. I want to see who's from Apple Valley, Minnesota. Dude was a lefty and so much taller than everybody else.

No one knew where the ball was going. going when he pitched it. But when you're in sixth, seventh grade and you don't know where the ball is going and it's going faster than you've ever seen anything in your life, it's an instant strikeout. He just has to get three somewhat over the middle because some kids were just blind swinging, but like there's nothing more overwhelming than watching that. You see some talented basketball players when they're younger, okay, but you watch some kids, some flamethrower in sixth grade, watch that.

It's comedy. So you didn't see these kids try and just hit anything, just not trying to have to pissed down their leg a little bit. Yeah, I imagine. There has to be nothing more humbling than to be like the really good baseball player. I think it happens in every sport where you're the really good

and then as you go up levels, levels, levels, you know, and it changes. But like all of a sudden I can't hit the curveball. Is there anything in sport that removes more people than the advent of the curve ball? Like you just go years where you're just hitting straight balls. And the next thing, you know, here comes the deuce.

Oh, that's, some of some of you guys talk about that when they climb up with the miners. And they were just like, also they weren't even just throwing breaking balls. They could locate them. They're throwing breaking balls for strikes. So it's like, yeah, don't throw it. Okay. Off speed pitch, don't swing. It's going in the dirt.

I remember when kids started throwing off speed stuff, that's all I always thought. It's like, don't even swing. Just wait for it. And all of a sudden, they're throwing a, you know, doing back door sliders on you. Front door change up, circle changes on you and stuff. Imagine how you're batting like 480 in high school, you know, like some of these kids do. On base percentage is like 670.

They hit 10 home runs and 40 at bads, all that. And then they get into that first rookie ball. And then you see their stat lines, 187. What? Two hits and 42 appearances. You know, something like that. It's like when you see Michael Jordan went down to double A. Also, yeah.

It was amazing that he hit 200 after having not play baseball for like. That's saying something in AA because that's actually when, like we're saying, that's the jump is usually double A's when all of a sudden pitchers are real. No, they're throwing fast. People don't realize. I actually look back on it and I have an admiration for his willingness. Because buddy, that had to be embarrassing at some points. Yeah.

And you're Michael Jordan and you don't care about that embarrassment. Because I got news for your brother. I do. okay. I do care what my friends think. Like there's some levels of things. Like I'm getting better about that as I get older. But man, I couldn't imagine being out there. Like, I remember the point in baseball where against the best pitchers of the level, it reached a point where I couldn't even get that thing off the shoulder, bro. Just like, do I even pull the trigger? Yeah, and even if I do, what's going to happen? Like, for what? I also too, is that in baseball, ball say you just get buckled change up curb ball just like makes you look embarrassing right how do you get them back you just got to wait for your next plate appearance and you might not even go against the same pitcher right basketball i get dunked on someone splashes a shot my face all right i can give it right back

right so now imagine psycho competitive michael jordan getting buckled on a pitch and then having to like wait yes just wait i i looked up with stats Yeah, 114 strikeouts was in great. So about 500 play appearances. He had, you know, he had 17 doubles. Yeah. He had three home runs, had some ribbies. It was the strikeouts probably.

He got four, he got hit by pitch four times. Can you imagine that? But it all got better as it went. Like, I bet the vast majority of those strikeouts were early. Like, the willingness, because also looking bad playing baseball, who, boy, that's a bad look. Because I would you, I'd have just been hitting bike with backdoor sliders and everything else, right? I just been throwing trick pitches at Mike. Yeah. Oh, all off speed. Oh, yeah, you're just everything, everything looping. I'll be throwing, how be you throwing five

Ephes pitches and just see how he handles that. But it also works out well, thank you jump over my pitch. But it works out well for everybody that baseball is not a shit talking sport. If it was, it might have gone different. If they had been out there talking shit to Mike, Mike might have hit 350. There's a little bit more that's coming, you know, there's saying more of these baseball docks and you're kind of seeing a little bit more of the chirping that goes on to. But the thing is, too, is that. But if they have been chirping at Mike, Mike would have turned himself into a 300 hitter.

Or he'd been like, hey, let me pitch. Yes. Here comes some sweet chin music. Mike got focused. Like, Mike, what I learned from Michael Jordan in the last dance is that focuses a skill and that focus is a resource. And his ability to decide, I'm locking in on this. He would have turned into that dude.

No, that's not. No, it is a skill, though. just drown because we just talk about even even though i wish i could drown out noise sometimes i do too like we like just ignore what people are saying all that but maybe even them just go like hey i am making this shot or i am hitting this ball and i everything in my fiber my being is focused on that with no other thoughts getting in my head yeah that's absolutely a skill like you just talking about any of the top guys also too he was 31 years old so you're talking about even like the pride thing uh baseball reference has like the age differential for each class you know double a okay how much old seven years older

than the average age in his league because he was 31. And he was doing that. I mean, there's, man, that's a lot of pride to just also be like, no, I'm getting good at this. Like, yeah, I actually, you know, like, shout out the Michael Jordan. Shout out the Michael Jordan for playing baseball at 31. I'm 35. I won't even try a new class like a workout class because I don't want to get embarrassed by everybody.

You have to admire it, man. You have to admire it. That's the guy of detour that we get when I got Nate, Taek, Nate, Tice on here with me. Check him out at Yahoo Sports covering the NFL. My man, I greatly appreciate you. Thank you for having me. Also shout out to Cooper DeGine for breaking 21 miles an hour on that pick six. Fastest defender with the ball on his hands this entire year in the NFL. Cooper DeGine, man. So yeah. So thanks for having me. I'll bow. On behalf of my people, we're losing the country, bro. We're losing the country. I'm just telling you right now,

if something like that happened to white people, they start burning shit down, that would be the sign of the last days. And people were doubted me. People were going like, no, GPS. I mean, I thought it was a bit at first. And people were like, well, next-chin stats, can you verify that? Like, people are adding next-chin stats. No one was believing. Cooper DeGine broke 21 miles an hour. Told you, man. Me and Dominique been on that for a year to have, two years. We told people, we let them know. This was coming. This was on the way. I felt vindicated. And you started looking close at them pictures, bro. Like, in a different, century, we might have a different interpretation. Oh, how about our wormhole we went down last

time? Yes, sir. Whoa, hold on, hold on. Was it with you that I was talking? No, I wasn't with you talking about Steve Van Buren, was it? Yeah, that was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. That's a black man. No doubt. Yeah, hold of Van Buren, Dijin, okay. Yeah, okay, all right. I just, we need to do a documentary on how in Hades, Van Buren, man. made it on the team at LSU. Like, I just don't, I, like, what lies was he down there telling people? We can just reuse the name highly questionable. There you go.

That's the same thing. He would just change the subject. That was just all it was. Or you get out there telling jokes. Like, you know, I don't know if you heard about this. But, you know, Mike Tariko said, say he was Italian and that's it for a very long time. And I think he just was so, I think he believed it, number one. But number two, I think he was just so adamant about the people like, I mean, it can't be lying.

Right. That he didn't even blink. Hey, we're talking about singular focus. Yeah. Hey, you can do a lot there. I think it's the Bay Ruth picture test, though. Just hold up, you know. Oh, see, again, you got to know the era.

In that era, in that era, that was not what a white man looked like. Like, what a white man looked like changed? Like, you know that Salatso in the Godfather? Right. Italians were not white at that time. I don't think they let him let them in the club yet. And you look at him and you kind of sort of understand. He looked kind of like Wayne Fonce, who was another story in this, in this whole thing.

It is. Oh, man. And all of a sudden he was from this. He's from Baltimore. Yes. Okay. We're piecing this together now. And the boys always be from some kind of port.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Right. That is right. Van Buren as well. Because he was Van Buren was from was it, did we figure I was like Trinidad and Tobago or something? He was Honduras. That's what it was. It was Honduras. That's what it was. It was Honduras. Now granted, Cuba Dijian, they're from no port. However. No, no, no. He's from a country. Leland. So yeah. Okay. Well, we take this. We take this. Is there a military generations? He might have been down there in a quarter with us. Never know. Shout out to Congo Square. Day Tice. Brother, I appreciate you. No, thanks, Bo. Thanks for having me, dude.

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