The Right Time with Bomani Jones - NFL Conference Championships Recap: Eagles vs Chiefs Super Bowl Rematch | 1.27

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones recaps Conference Championship Sunday where we saw the Philadelphia Eagles and Kansas City Chiefs advance to Super Bowl LIX. Bo starts the show giving praise to Patrick Mahomes for reaching yet another Super Bowl and continuing his comparison to Michael Jordan. (0:35) Bo continues with the Chiefs talk asking why fans hate them similarly to how everyone hated the New England Patriots during their dynasty. (11:01) Then, he moves onto the Buffalo Bills and if their Super Bowl window has closed after their 4th playoff loss to the Chiefs in the Josh Allen era. (20:33) Bo rounds out the Conference Championship conversation by saying how dominant the Philadelphia Eagles looked and why Jalen Hurts isn't a negative but he's also limited in the pass game. (28:55) And finally, we have another round of If You Haven't Heard stories involving cattle gallstones, new ownership of TikTok and the National Diaper Bank Network. Then Bomani listens to some voicemails about the dumbest things you've seen happen at work. (32:13) If You Haven't Heard Contributors: Samantha Pearson, Reporter, The Wall Street Journal: “Cattle Gallstones, Worth Twice as Much as Gold, Drive a Global Smuggling Frenzy” https://bit.ly/4giQVMO  Clare Malone, Staff Writer at The New Yorker “Is the TikTok Ban a Chance to Rethink the Whole Internet?” https://www.newyorker.com/news/annals-of-communications/is-the-tiktok-ban-a-chance-to-rethink-the-whole-internet  Troy Moore, Chief of External Affairs at National Diaper Bank Network To donate to the National Diaper Bank Network to support people affected by the Los Angeles Wildfire, please head to: diapersnow.org  . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify:  https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media:  http://lnk.to/therighttime Support the Show:  PrizePicks: Daily Fantasy Made Easy! Visit PrizePicks.com/BOMANI and use code BOMANI for a first deposit match up to $100! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave sports and entertainment original presented by prize picks. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. He only gives us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. Of course, we're going to get everybody ready for the Super Bowl coming up in a week of change. And I have said for quite a while that Patrick Mahomes is Jordan, right? My buddy Nick likes to try to say that he's LeBron, except the problem is we don't see him

LeBron catch a lot more L's than we seen Patrick Mahomes catch. Like this feels like Jordan at peak of Jordan's powers, right? Where it's everybody against him and like more damning and troubling, I suppose, in that time period is all the dudes that's the same age as him can't catch a break. Like with Jordan, with the exception of Elijah Wall, who won them two championships when Jordan was over playing baseball.

Charles Barkley couldn't get no rain. Carl Malone who got drafted in 85 and Stockton who's drafted in 84. Wasn't no ring there for him. Patrick Ewing in 85. Wasn't no ring there for him. They just wasn't a chance because they was trying to get this done on Jordan's watch. Now we seem to have a whole bunch of cats out here who can't get it done on Jordan's watch. It seems that if your team is going to beat.

Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, you're going to need a quarterback with a legitimately good chance at going to the Hall of Fame. The only two guys who have done it, whose teams have done it, that is, are Tom Brady twice, one time playing a Super Bowl in his own home stadium, and then Joe Burrough. That's it. Everybody else show up and everybody else got to get down on the ground because this boy is going get it. And it happened again in this game in Kansas City.

Now, Sean, I asked you this question and I just asked this curiously. there's no right answer on this. Did you ever really think Buffalo was going to win? I mean, the first possession for Josh Allen, he threw two insane passes that, as you mentioned on Twitter, should have been picked off. And from that point on, I was like, I think Buffalo's going to keep it close,

but knowing that's how they started the game, I kind of didn't really have much optimism for Buffalo. In the first half, it felt to me, especially, and we'll talk more about Josh Allen, a little later. But it felt to me that Josh Allen was out there looking like old Josh Allen. And he was definitely trying his best to keep things interesting, shall we say. I thought that Kansas City was going to run away early. And then they didn't. And then they got out to that double-digit lead toward the end of the second quarter. And then Josh Allen

threw that pass to that weird boy, the one that be showing up wearing them get-ups to the games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that guy. I don't even want to call him, Mac. That's my daddy's name. My daddy is showing up here looking like no goddamn Elmo. But anyway, he hit him right on the money with that pass. And I was like, oh, okay, we've got a game. And then once we're getting into the end of third quarter, early fourth quarter, and Buffalo's got to lead, it's like, oh, this is really interesting. I did not think the Buffalo was going to win that game.

Now, I would be honest, if you took this game and you put it up there in Buffalo, then I was probably going to be in a circumstance where I was like, okay, I think the Buffalo gets this. No, I thought that Mike was going to walk them down, and then what do you know? Mike went ahead and walked them down. And I'm trying to think, like, I use Jordan as a broad comparison on this, but the difference here, and this is another point of my buddy Nick makes,

the difference here is that maybe part of this is because of the nature of basketball, but Jordan didn't become Jordan immediately off the rip. Mahomes has been this guy literally since day one. They lost that game in January of 2019 to the Patriots, where the Patriots walked him down and just kept splitting gronk out wide, basically an ISO all the way down the field against Eric Berry and went ahead and got touchdown. But every season, this dude has been a starting quarterback.

They've been at least to a conference championship game. Last season is the only time that they played any of these games on the road. That Super Bowl against the Bucks in January 2021. I understand that some of you guys are haters and this is just how you built or whatever, but I will never, you'll never be able to say anything to make me be any less impressed

by what Patrick Mahomes look like with a stat line that gives you no indication of what that greatness was. When that dude laid out sideways like it was the Matrix and threw that ball dead on the money into the end zone and I couldn't even be mad at Buddy for not catching it because why would you think that pass was even possible? Never seen anything like this. Now Mahomes at 29, he will turn 30 early in next season.

The idea that he went so quickly past the point of the video game number phase into almost he's not a yeoman, but I do feel like this is a bit of a yeoman-like level of performance that he's given where he just gets it done. Yeah, it really seems like he stopped caring about the stats and is just like, well, I know I can win. And, you know, I think this team's personality has been the defense this year.

And it's like, well, I got a great defense. I can win every game just because I know I can run it down, like you said in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it sounds like the whole league made the decision. We're not going to let you throw it over our heads anymore. And for what it's worth with Kansas City, guess they went and drafted worthy this year to kind of change this, but last year they didn't have anybody that could go by anybody and you could just throw it over their heads in that way.

No, they went past that. They're like, no, we're not going to let you do that. You're going to have to nickel and dime us, Patrick. And Patrick's like, well, I guess I'll just have to nickel and dime you. And he has just decided to come out here. And nickel and diamond, throw into dudes, right? At this point, Travis Kelsey bless us hard. Travis Kelsey is a dude at this point. He is a dude who's been doing this forever. But this is not the level of greatness that you had seen from Travis Kelsey, call it even three years ago, let alone five. He's not that player anymore.

Juju Smith-Schuster, if he hadn't played for the Steelers before, we wouldn't really be talking about him. He's just a guy that's out there. Worthy is really, really fast, but it's like he is a piece. Samajai Piron, good player to have. Pacheco, memorable name. but otherwise, man, these are just guys. And not only are they just guys,

they had an offensive line where they couldn't figure out what to do at tackle and had to take the best offensive linemen away from guard and put them at tackle. Their offensive basis or belief as to why they could be successful when they have the ball is we got Jordan. Like, that's what this is. There's nobody else that you can come out here and say reasonably, all right, man, you're going to go get this for us, right?

No, it's the one guy. The defense is really good, but it's the one guy that's going to get this done. We talk more about the Eagles a little later, but it is very interesting to see these two teams juxtaposed against each other because Kansas City has made the decision like we're going to start with Patrick and then we'll fill the rest of this end and we think we'll be fine, where the Eagles have a high-end game manager and quarterback who had a good game on Sunday, but they've decided we're going to load the entire roster up and then we don't need as much out of our quarterback.

The Chiefs have no chance if Mahomes doesn't show up. If Mahomes comes out there and has a sort of game, they can win, but they'll sweat that out. If Mahomes has a not good game, they're not winning. They're not winning unless he comes out there and brings it and just somehow manages to keep bringing it. And when it comes down at the end of these games and they got these dudes that can't figure out when to go out of bounds and keep the clock moving and you need that third down in order to get it done, I don't know. I just can't imagine what it's like to have a quarterback that you know no matter what. Nah, it's cool.

We're going to get this. And that's what that game was. And that's what that dude was. Now, I had peeped. People asking the question about like folks starting to dislike the chiefs at this point. And somebody in my mentions. asked a question about why is it that people don't like the chiefs or don't like Mahomes at this point? I mean, the answer is very, very simple, right? I don't think it's necessarily that

personal. I think it's pretty obvious what happens. So to help explain this, I'd tell you about what I was doing the show Game Theory for HBO a couple of years ago. I decided I wanted to do something about why it was that black people dislike do basketball so much. I understand that a couple of you black people like Johnny Dawkins, right? There's that. I also recognize that some of you other black people was just raised wrong. But in the end, like, you know, we ain't really rocking with them like that. And I was trying to figure out why I was in specific.

We weren't rocking with them like that because it wasn't like they was the only people out there that had white dudes all the time. Like, I don't hear people having passionate opinions about, say, Indiana basketball in the way that they did about Duke. And so I just stopped and thought about it. And I was like, oh, that's what happened. They beat every single team that we ever loved. They ran through them all, Doug.

They was beating, you know, playing against Carolina. We was down with Carolina. The 40 Minutes of Hell, Arkansas teams, the Fab Five, Georgetown, even Temple that we didn't really love that much. But when you saw them, you knew that was us. You know what I'm saying? You know what time it was. Those are the teams that they kept beating.

then of course we was going to hate them. They kept killing the dream. At this point, Patrick Mahomes has beat all your squads. Only right now, the Bengals and the Buccaneers can feel like they got the one up, right? They get to be, like Tom Brady gets to be

the Isaiah Thomas in this case, where he's like, hey man, Jordan didn't get the one up on me, right? Everybody else, the dude and his team has handled. Yes, everybody. he's going to dislike you after you done beat them, especially if you're talking about beating them in a game that matters. That's how it works. The Patriots, I think, got to a similar space, though I think the thing that's different about the Patriots versus the Chiefs, and I could be wrong here, but I look at the Patriots and I raise one very simple question. What was there to like?

Like, if you weren't from there and you weren't a front runner, what did the Patriots give you to like. On top of giving you very little personality, if any personality, they was out there cheating, you know, like multiple ways apparently they was out here cheating. They gave you nothing to love unless, unless, unless, unless, and hey, I could see this, I could understand this. They gave you nothing to love unless it really made you feel warm inside to see white dudes play wide receiver. right? I could get it if you missed those good old days. And I mean old days, you'd have to be 75 to even remember anything like that to be perfectly honest. But, Sean, I went to that Super Bowl where they played against the Rams in Atlanta. And I saw all them Patriots jerseys. And keep in mind, this is the year 2019. I saw one person in a Randy Moss Patriots jersey, one person in a Patrick Chung jersey who I could be wrong, but I'm assuming was not just down with your squad. I'm also assuming his last name was Chung.

Like specifically, he felt like, like I went to high school with a dude named Ray Cunningham and he was white, but he had every Randall Cunningham jersey that they made. He had them in all the colors. It felt like it was his own, okay? It was nothing but the Patriots had not have a jersey worthy black person for perhaps a whole decade. They did not.

Everywhere I went, it was, you know, dead well you wouldn't be wearing this Julian. Edelman jersey otherwise. We wouldn't know who Julian Ellman's name was. I feel like Will Fork is the only one that might check the box, but that's a tough jersey to find. It's not common. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, ain't nobody trying to wear no, wear a big man jersey. You know, like, no, like, you might get you in like the Lawrence Taylor jersey, maybe even the Reggie White jersey. Number 71? Tough. No, no, let me tell you. All the reason somebody wearing number 71 is that's the last one in your size. You want number seven you want seven you want seven you want seven or not

like that's where that goes but now they didn't give you nothing to love the chiefs have just gotten to this place this has been going on for seven years and nobody's getting them so like with the patriots there were years where somebody snuck up and got them a little bit earlier nobody's doing that with the chiefs they have a very good defense this year like i don't want to pretend as though they're winning shootouts every week because they're not they have a very very very good defense this year we have seen that but we We know why we hear, man. We hear because of this one dude.

That's it. And I don't think that we could possibly spend enough time going over how wildly impressive it is that one person can seem to have this much of a singular impact on the future of a franchise and on the direction of the league. And so where I'm saying that he's Jordan, where I also think it becomes interesting is that he's kind of Tiger Woods in the sense that we wouldn't really try that hard to come up with who the Jordan competitor was. We kind of acknowledged that there wasn't one.

Mahomes has got to a place where, and maybe this is also different than basketball, where the nature of being a football player and being a quarterback in general, the ups and downs of season by season performance, right? There's a different kind of variance. And you wind up with a season like we have this year where we think that Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson definitely played better than Patrick Mahomes, but that doesn't mean that we think that they are better than Patrick Mahomes. You don't really have that with basketball.

That doesn't come up nearly as much. We tried that with Yokic. You're just playing better than everybody, but he's not better. Nah, no, no, no, dog. He's better than everybody. Football and quarterback give you a potential where you can run out the competitor to the throne, right? We can throw out our various Phil Mickelsons, our various David Duvalls, all these guys that we think have a chance to compete.

for the crown. And bless your hearts. Maybe you guys can get it done. But I ain't seen to you do it yet. And until I see you do it, I don't think none of you can. Sean, I truly believe that Mahomes are so good and that he deserved all that time. And now everybody else, we just going to have to clump you boys together. Yeah, it's just, it's Mahomes versus everyone else. Which I wanted to ask in that last segment is, you know, something that you and Mina discussed sometime last year, the argument of parody versus dominance, especially in football. And we're clearly in the midst of dominance. And it's weird that we're getting such backlash from one whole side of fandom.

Yeah, this is, I get the idea that watching the same dude do it like this might be a little bit boring to you. I also get the idea, I think I talked about this before, but like in the parlance or wrestling, the idea that you want Josh Allen to get over. or like you're seeing if Lamar Jackson can get over. I understand all of those things. But I like there being a video game boss. I like there being a boogeyman that's over there. And everybody knows that we got to somehow, some way get through that dude.

I love having that. And the guy that seems to be the one that has to take up the challenge as much, if not more, to anybody else is Josh Allen. Because he's over there in the AFC trying to get it done. I believe we need to have a keep that same energy situation with Josh Allen as we did with Lamar Jackson as we have in others in very similar places. And I feel good about myself because I am able to say with a straight face that I can definitely say the same thing about Josh Allen that I said about Lamar Jackson,

which is I do not believe that Josh Allen was the reason that Buffalo lost that game. But what I know for fact, and he was not the reason that Buffalo won that. game. And they showed up knowing that if they were going to win, he needed to be the reason why they won that game. That's how it works for that team. He was going to have to be the reason. He wasn't. And you can go look at stats and everything else. No, man, that was not a great game. That was not a great game. I did not think that, and everybody had a good game, I don't think he had a game on the negative side that was actually terribly different than the one with Lamar. Josh had a phone with the ball three times. He got them all back.

He fumbled the ball three times. On the first drive, he had those two times that he tried to give the ball away with interceptions. There. Like, the thing that I like about Josh Allen more than anybody else or anything else about him is that I find that the person that is most honest about Josh Allen and his performance in and around the NFL is actually Josh Allen. And so earlier this year, when people will point out the numbers about how low his turnover stats were and he would say, oh, no, no, I tried. I tried. And old Josh showed up. Sean, old Josh tried to pitch that on that two point conversion, which I think we let slide because it was a two point conversion, but that could go two points the other way. Yeah, and there was a lot of like quarterback design runs that were just like, let's just get Josh beat up and get like two yards on the play.

Then I was like, what's the point of this? I think the play calling obviously heard of. I think people on, you know, people like Nate Tice were speaking to that final play where the chief sent that corner blitz. He had Khalil Shakir wide open on the left side. kind of the panic of the blitz, you know, made him throw that ball to Dalton, Kincaid that he ultimately dropped. But yeah, to your point, like, Josh had opportunities to win it and didn't. Yeah, and look, that was an incredible throw that he made to Kincaid. It was also a bit of a heave. Like, let's not, let's not pretend that that was exactly the way that he drew it up. And it wasn't that easy a catch for Kincaid, who was at that point still drifting kind of toward the

goal line and then had to come back to the ball in order to get that done. But No, what happened to Josh Allen, and right now everybody feel bad for him about this, is that he is in the age of Jordan, right? I don't want to call him Carl Malone because that man ain't ever done nothing to me, but he is kind of existing there. It's somewhat the Charles Barkley space. We got these other guys that we could talk about. That's where he is.

I don't know how exactly you or the rest of the squad are going to get past that, right? but it is such a great styles make fight game and it made that game so good like I think the one thing I didn't talk about enough when I was talking about Mahomes before in this is that it was such an enjoyable game the energy around it was so much fun

and watching those dudes go for it knowing that it was really just coming down to them that was excellent and there are other times where Josh Allen would have been to a Super Bowl by now Josh Allen might have even won a Super Bowl right now but as much as I would love to blame it all on the fact that he's in the age of my homes, Joe Burrow got him one. He did that with the Bengals playing in Arrowhead.

He did that. Josh Allen, for whatever reason, he has not. And maybe one day he'll get it done. But the thing that you cannot presume is, oh, well, he'll get there one day or maybe he won't. Dan Marino, of course, is the most obvious example of this. Dan Barino got there his second year in the league. Never got back. Drew Breeze, who won the Super Bowl with the Saints in his ninth year.

So Josh Allen is not that far down, but it's the seventh year. He never went back. Philip Rivers never got there. I mean, we got other guys that we can point to and speak on. It ain't promise for you, right? This was as good a chance probably as it was going to be for this team. A lot was coming together properly for them. At some point, for example, Joe Brady is not going to be their offensive coordinator.

Will they replace him with somebody who works as well with Josh Allen? There are all kinds of things that are going to come up. But in the end, he did not make himself the reason they won. It doesn't mean you got to knock him for it. But if we are going to talk about him in the same rarefied air as Patrick Mahomes, then at some point, you got to be the reason why your team got to the Super Bowl, let alone won it. And he ain't done that yet.

Now, we have the other game, the Eagles, and the Commandos, and I want to say this to Commandos fans. I hope you guys enjoyed yourselves. Like I really do. You guys have really been going through it, honestly, for the last like 25 years, dealing with that Dan Snyder situation and everything else. You feel like you got a quarterback, all of that. And that's good.

You should be thrilled about this season. Just don't get green. You know y'all got a little bit lucky, right? Look at me. Look at me. Y'all know y'all got a little bit lucky. You got some good breaks. You caught the best team in the NFL riddled by injuries. But look, you got it done. I'm not saying that you didn't do what had to be done. But what very often happens in these situations is you look at your little young quarterback, right? And you say, oh, man, we got him. And this is what happened last year. We definitely going to the Super Bowl next year. Nah, nah, nah, y'all might not even win the division, baby. You had a very enjoyable year that went longer than any of you expected that it might. I congratulate you. I hope everybody feels good about themselves.

Soak this year in. Embrace it. Think of the memories. that were created this year. Don't fool yourselves just yet. You're going to need to do a lot to get up to the level of where the big dogs is at. And that is what I think they learned

when the Eagles was tapping that ass. Good God, the Eagles beat the brakes off them, man. Eagles out here beating y'all. They got white boys running for touchdowns against y'all. They was just flexing on y'all in every single way that one could possibly imagine. kept running that booty run on y'all. Jason, Jalen Hurts, got them three touchdowns.

It's too bad. It's not fantasy football season. Somebody would have really cleaned up, right? I saw Mike Freeman make the point on Twitter that he thinks this Eagles roster is one of the best, if not the best, of the last 10 to 20 years, top to bottom as a roster. That is a very interesting point. Anytime you start talking about, like, getting up that high into things or like, I don't.

The question for me becomes less is what Mike's saying true than is what Mike is saying hyperbole. And I do not think it is hyperbole. They are loaded everywhere. They are loaded in the secondary. They got linebackers that's bringing it. They brought in a linebacker that was a bum for the Saints last year. And then he came out there and started handling business. The dude, Zach Bond, by the way, I was a little surprised when I saw a picture of

Zach Bond. If I put a picture up of Zach Bond or just said, hey, it's a guy named Zach and his last name is Bond and he was as fair-skinned as he was, you wouldn't expected him. He liked the new Kyle Van Noy. That was always a big shocker. But anyway, their livebacker game is strong. Their defensive line is like they all went to Georgia. They strong too. Their offensive line, we watch them move furniture. Their receivers, A.J. Brown and Devante Smith. Okay. Sequo Barkley out there running like Bo Jackson. And when you got it like that, you can win a Super Bowl with your game managing quarterback.

And Sean, I had a lot of people during the game that was like what you got to say about Jaylon Hertz now. The exact same thing we said before, you can win with him. You're not going to win because of him. And they did very well with him. Yeah, and everyone's going to point to the fact that he also had three rushing touchdowns, but it's like, you know, that's a product of the offensive line and the push and that ridiculous back and forth between the commanders, linebackers, and them on the goal line. But yeah, to your point. Hey, did you know that they could just give them a touchdown? No idea. I had no idea. I've been watching the NFL for years. You as well. I can't believe that's

the first I've ever heard of that. I mean, but think about it, when would it ever come up? Right. Exactly. And so for those of you who don't know, this is Dude named Louvoo, who plays linebacker for the commandos. He kept trying to time the snap on the tush push so he could do the Levar Arrington jump over the line and make the tackle. And they kept doing the hard count and he kept jumping over. But it's had the distance to the goal and they were so close to the goal that they couldn't even move it.

And then the referee got on the mic and said that if the refs feel like if he keep doing this, then they have the right to just give them a touchdown. That was it. I was like, that is big parent energy. Somebody in my Mitches put it best. Somebody at my Mitches was like, that it's very big. I'll turn this car around right now, energy. I did not know they could do that.

The best part about that is that whole sequence took about, you know, five to ten minutes and it only took off like five seconds off the clock because they kept having to stop the clock and resetting it after. It was like I felt like I was in purgatory watching that. Yeah, I can't imagine how frustrating it is, though, when they run that play. It's impossible. What are we supposed to do? And I haven't looked this up.

I'm sure somebody's written a breathless story about this, but who sat up and came up with this idea in the first place? Like, this is how we're going to just get it every time. They can run that all the way down the field if they wanted to. You commented on it, but the broadcast was hilarious when Brady was like, why are they even huddling? What's the point of a huddle? They just try to catch their breath. That's the whole thing. Everybody knows what time it is.

Somebody trying to give me some explanation because nobody can take a joke anymore. But still, it really was. Like, why y'all even got to talk about, man? Like, what is there even for you to discuss? But they got that done with Jalen Hertz, basically on one leg. And Sequin Barclay, I keep saying this.

And I'm going to say it again. There's a whole generation of kids that don't know the joy of watching a great running back be a great running back. and we have seen or we were watching a great, what was it, the first play where they gave him on that crack toss to the left and then he spun it back to the middle and they're just gone? Yeah. And it just made it look too easy.

Yeah. Right. This what are you supposed to do? Like, that's the thing. By the time this actually gets to the Super Bowl itself, what's going to be very, very difficult for the Chiefs is just going to be the Eagles can move you around. Like, your game has got to be, how do we make. their quarterback beat us.

Because no matter how much you like Jalen Hertz, if you are an Eagles fan and you think I'm just dogging out your team, no, I'm saying to look at your team. And I think that this is the fairest and most important point. You look at your team. The weakest position group is quarterback. And I don't think that their quarterback is a weakness. I just don't think it's a strength.

Like the point that I've made, and I don't know why this bothers people so much, is that basically every team Jalen Hertz has been on has been limited by his passing. The closest thing you've got to an exception is the one where they went to the Super Bowl. And he had a very good year and a very good Super Bowl at that point. Outside of that, the ceiling on the team is how well does Jalen Hertz pass the ball? Even if you think he raised the ceiling in 2022, you'd acknowledge that. The ceiling is not their offensive line.

It's not their defense, anything else. So if there's anything that could be the governor on how fast that car goes, it's him. The Chief's game is going to be, how do we make that dude beat us? And Janet Hertz is going to have to be the dude that's willing to say, here's how I'm going to beat you. Because the thing that Tom Brady talked about in that game that seemed to be the most frustrating for him to watch what Hertz is the willingness to just throw the ball. You don't have to make yourself 100% certain that nothing bad is going to happen. And that is the thing that happens with Hertz. is absolutely trying to minimize risk.

And sometimes you just got to let it go. There have been great quarterbacks who've had this issue. Aaron Rogers has long had this issue where his criminally low interception count was actually a negative because it indicated that he wasn't willing to just rip it sometimes. And sometimes that's what you got to do. And so the chiefs are going to try to put Jalen Hertz in positions to do that. And if he is willing or capable of doing that,

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Now, if you haven't heard. All right, Bo, here's the first one of the day. Hi, this is Samantha Pearson. I'm a Brazil correspondent for the Wall Street Journal. My latest front-page story is about cattle gallstones. Yes, gallstones found in cows and bulls, which are now worth twice as much as gold. They can fetch up to $5,800 an ounce.

So as humans, we spend most of our lives trying to avoid getting gallstones, but in fact, cattle gallstones are some of the most prize ingredients in Chinese traditional medicine. They use to treat a series of health problems, but mainly strokes. And in recent years, heart disease has surged in China as the country's economic development has led to a series of lifestyle changes and rising obesity. So this is all great news for Brazil. It's already the world's largest beef exporter. and now it's the biggest supply of these valuable balls of hardened bile.

They're generally removed in the slaughterhouse after the animal has been killed, and depending on the size, can be worth more than the animals meat itself. But as Brazilian farmers have become wealthier over recent decades, they've done a better job of looking after and feeding their animals. Cattle are generally healthier, and this means that they produce fewer gallstones. So now we've got this supply squeeze on gallstones, where Chinese demand is rising fast, and Brazilian supply has dropped.

The price is now so high that here in Brazil, armed gangs have been targeting slaughterhouses across the country to steal gallstones. Now, it's not illegal to harvest them here, but bids some health regulations and taxes mean that traders often smuggle them out of the country, shipping them to Asia illegally,

sometimes hidden in everything from children's toys to jars of jam. Shaw, that was wild. And by the way, just because I don't know if the British accent translates all the way, over for those on audio gallstones, like the joints in your gallbladder. That's what we're talking about. It was a riveting story.

That second half of that audio clip of like the smugglers and stuff, I was like, holy shit, I would watch this movie. Yo, I mean, first of all, who knew that the cow's gallbladder was the catalytic converter of their body? Just a reason for you to get jacked. Like, imagine being one of the poor cows. and somebody run up all you with the heat, come up off it. Come up off it.

It's copper wiring. You know what I'm here for. It's crazy. Yo, I couldn't believe it. Like all the details, like the idea of armed gangs. They don't want, they don't want the cow. They want the gallstones for free. And it's only for like health benefits, right?

Like it's not like it's like they turn it around. And it's just literally to help like Western, Eastern medicine out. It's fascinating. But hold on. think we need to ask ourselves this question, though. If the Chinese is so press for these, what, do I need to be trying to put the gallstones as a part of my life? A bunch of cows chain smoking cigarettes on the farm. That's right. That's right. That's right. That's right. Wow. Great job. That was just that that that story is kind of like the dream of this.

It wasn't it wasn't too much the end of the world is coming. You know what I'm saying? Just like, I bet you didn't know that. Like this isn't going to affect me directly, but damn, that was fun. You know, like this was, and shout out to Samantha Pearson at the Wall Street Journal. That was a great piece. Here's the next one. Great job. Hi, my name is Claire Malone.

I'm a staff writer at The New Yorker, and I'm here to talk about who's going to own TikTok. You probably know that the app went dark right before President Trump was inaugurated. That's because of a law that was signed last year that said TikTok needs to have an American owner in order for it to operate in America. Otherwise, it's going to go dark and be banned because the company is owned by a Chinese company. And there's some thought that the Chinese are maybe using TikTok for maybe slightly nefarious purposes. Anyhow, there is now a big group of potential buyers of American TikTok, which has about 170 million users. And I followed along with one of them, a guy named Frank McCourt, who you might know as the former owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers. If you don't know who he is, Google it.

People don't really like him in Dodgers world. Anyhow, Frank McCourt in the past 10 or 15 years has gotten really interested in this idea of digital personhood, data autonomy, basically the idea that big tech companies shouldn't be able to scrape your data, that you should own your data, you should own your online profile. And he wants to buy TikTok, and it's 170 million users, and also use them as a guinea pig for his project

to put these users on a technology platform that allows them to own their own data. He runs this nonprofit that he's trying to organize his TikTok bid through. And so I spent a lot of time with Frank and the people at his nonprofit try to learn about what this all might entail. Now, I don't think Frank is probably going to be the owner of TikTok, but he provided an interesting way into this sort of drama of politics and corporate America that is, and I should say, foreign,

government interference. All of this is sort of brewing around TikTok, and Frank was an interesting figure to explore all of that with. Okay. I would just say it is right now. Somehow, Frank McCourt bought the Dodgers with no money. Literally, no money. He ultimately had to sell the Dodgers because of a divorce, and I think it would have required him to buy his ex-wife out. But again, what did I say? He bought it with no money. So since he didn't have the money, he had to sell the team. Frank McCourt managed to buy that team with no money, sell it for a billion dollars, and retain ownership of the parking lot at Dodger Stadium.

That really happened. I'm saying all that to say this. Frank McCourt is not doing this for us. That's the idea that Frank McCourt is running a nonprofit. it. Frank McCourt is not doing this to help us out. It was an amazing resurgence or return of the name of Frank McCourt. And I love that I don't get the feeling our friend Claire is that into sports because she's like, yeah, he used to hold the Dodgers. I found out people don't really like him. Yeah. And it's like, it's like people in Los Angeles don't like him. They hate that guy. You know, like he also has

imparted in ruining the marathon and all these things. Yes. There is nothing quite like when somebody isn't familiar with, like, I can't think of the best way to put it, but this is similar to what I was doing game theory. The executives at HBO found out about the cottage industry of people who hate me, right? Like people, like all these people, like all these people who write articles at any turn that they can find and talk about me who, like, say, I've never done anything. Like, you know who the people are that I'm talking about. The HBO people at some point were like, hey, they asked my showrunner like, did you know that there are all these people

who say these things about Bobati? They're like, we like him. We don't understand what's going on here. I feel like Claire was like, wow, I got to talk to Frank McCourt. He seemed really cool. And then I googled his name. And people are like, yo, fuck that guy.

What did he do? Yeah, I imagine her like going to a bar with some friends being like, I talked with Frank McCourt the other day and someone from the bar overheard him and be like, fuck that guy, you know? Yes, yes. That is exactly what happened.

Hearing that was just so funny to me. Regardless of whoever buys TikTok, I think it's all for the wrong reasons, like you said. It's ultimately for data. I just, I don't, yeah, but I say, I don't trust. You get to own your own data and I get to keep a copy. All right, here's our last, if you haven't heard today, and it's a special one. Here's something you may not know. Diapers are among the most requested basics that families with babies and toddlers need in the immediate aftermath of a

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boy, you want to talk about an incredible batting average. The, hi, I'm Troy McClure Clips. But anyway, no, he hit on what is very important and why I have worked with the National Dipper Bank Network for years. I'm proud to say that I have. I've been a keynote speaker at their event. I can't speak, at their conference, rather, I can't speak highly enough of the work that they do.

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to support and give diapers to people in need. And transition to voicemails. The prompt was the craziest thing you've seen something someone do at your work. Got a ton of great submissions. Here's the first one. What's up, fellas. My name's Curtis. I was calling about the dumbest decision. I was seen somebody make it work. Now, the dude I'm talking about, this is the same dude that we once caught driving a work van to the weed man's house to go pick it up with a big phone number and everything on the side of it, right?

So one morning, this dude used to drive some of our vans at night making deliveries. One morning we come in and we find that he has got not only his van stuck in a mud hole, but he has also made the decision to go inside the warehouse and drive the forklift outside to try and lift the van out of the mud hole and gotten the forklift even further buried in the mud hole than the van was. So needless to say, it took some serious heavy equipment to get his stuff out of the hole and somehow he did not lose his job over it, but he is no longer working with us, thank goodness. But that is, by far, the dumbest thing, I think anybody could probably do have my job. Thanks. Have a good day. Sean, I don't know about you, but part of what I enjoy greatly about that story is that

is the first time that I heard of a mud hole actually existing in real life as opposed to that mud hole being stomped in someone's chest. I have only heard of people of stomping a mud hole in somebody. I don't think I had ever thought about an actual existence of a hole with mud. But there was one here and then buddy went and got this there. I got an idea. Like my brother once told me something when I was younger and it's kind of guided my life in terms of having to measure of compassion for a lot of y'all.

And it is, can you imagine what it's like to have terrible judgment? Like just to not know a good idea from a bad one. Can you imagine? Like, you know, there's somebody in your life that you know it. give them a good idea or a bad one, they're going to take the bad one every single time. This seems like that guy. And I get the like panic mode of like, oh shit, I got the van stuck. What's the best thing to do? Let me use another company vehicle and getting that stuck. It's like, it's like don't compound a bad decision with another one, you know?

I'm telling you, generally speaking, in those situations, no matter what, the first step toward a solution is three words. Ask for help. Before you go and do something crazy, ask for help. Insane. This is going to be the theme of this voicemail section. Here's the next one. It's Craig Call from North Carolina.

I wanted to tell you about a story about the time I saw somebody do something really dumb at my job. So at the time, I was working for Jimmy Johns as a delivery driver. and there was a guy I worked with, his name was Justin, right? And Justin was a real nice guy, but Justin was, I don't know how to say this, nice besides something to say he was dumb.

He was real dumb. And on this particular day, I had gone out for delivery. I was working with Justin, and I come back and my manager tells me, hey, I had to send Justin home. So, you know, I asked him, what happened? Well, apparently, our general manager had an app on his phone where he could access the cameras to the store, and he decided he just wanted to look in and see what was going on that day. And he apparently looked in just in time to see Justin passed by our trash can, look at a piece of bread that was sitting on top of the trash can, then proceed to look around, saw that nobody was looking, grabbed the bread off to the top of the trash can, and ate it. He then called the store, told our manager, said, hey, I need you to send Justin home. He's eating food out of the trash.

The worst thing about this, though, is the fact that the bread was really cheap at the time. Like, I think it was only, like, a dollar. And this is dude who came from, like, a family that actually had money. So he wasn't, like, hurting her for, like, a meal or something. This wasn't somebody that was, like, homeless or something like that. He was legitimately just not very smart and thought that he could just get away with it and that if there was no problem with. Anyway, appreciate it both.

Bye. I got to say, Sean, he said, I'm going to try to be nice about it and say he's dumb. That's, I know exactly what word he wanted to use. Yeah, yeah, sir.

I won't be repeating it, but I am positive that I know exactly the word that he was thinking there. Wow, eating out the trash. And like, I bet you, if you work at Jimmy Johns,

You probably get a free meal for working. Like you get a lunch from, you know, like. Probably 50%. Ah, yeah, it sounds like you ain't, you ain't worked. You ain't worked in food, have you? You didn't get a good deal. I did a summer working at five guys and we got a free lunch every day. Really?

Yeah. And I was like, oh, this is nice. Wow, things have changed. Like, normally it's like, you can get, you can trust you can get 50% off the entree and then let you slide on like fries and drinks. Don't be trying to get no milkshake though. But the bread, the bread off the thing, just take one from the pantry. That seems, that seems appropriate.

You are correct. You are correct. All right. Here's our last one. Going on, Bo. This is Drewski from L.A. In lines with NFL players doing crazy stuff, you ask, what's the craziest thing? We've seen somebody do at our job.

I used to be a professional football player as well. And we come into the beginning of the year, which is interesting. every year into fall camp, training camp, which is in August. And so we had this one dude who loved to smoke some weed. And so we all knew when the drug test was. The drug test for street drugs every year is the first or second week of training camp. We all arrived at training camp, and one of our dudes that loves to smoke weed is not there. So we're kind of like, all right, well, we just do that.

What's going on? You got some family problems? Our physician coach tells us that this person calls him on the phone. right before training camp is about to start, and he says he doesn't want to come in. And coach is like, what do you mean? Like, is something going on, some wrong with your family?

Like, what's the deal? The guys are like, nah, I just don't want to, I just don't want to stop smoking weed. And our coach is like, you don't want to stop smoking weed to play in the NFL son? He's like, yeah, I just feel like it's really hindering me,

and I just feel like I just, I can't focus the way I need to if I can't smoke this weed. But now the kicker to this story is, lo and behold, this dude doesn't, come in, we cut them, we bring in somebody else. This is the same year that they start this program

for NFL free agents to have a combine where they're trying to get into or back with an NFL team. Just so happen to be watching it this day. And on this same episode, while they're scanning the players out of their testing and doing 40s and long jumps

and drills and everything like that, this dude's face comes across the screen. So the same dude that didn't want to stop smoking weed to stay in the NFL was now trying to get back into the NFL to possibly be subjected to drug testing again. That's my story, though. You guys are doing a great job. Catch you next time. Hey man, I would be honest with you. Like, I think that people are typically a little over the top, you know, with the, like, I think testing for weed is stupid. I think drug testing generally at jobs

is a, with some exceptions, right? I think it's flawed. The more money you make, I've never taken the drug test in my life, by the way, right? The more money you make, the less they test you, it's really just hunting to go after the poor, anything else. However, if they're telling you the test is coming and you can't pass it, you might actually have a problem. The problem is not the weed. The problem is you, but there is a problem, right? Don't blame the weed, all right? That's the whole thing. I'm all about accountability in this motherfucker, right? Don't blame the weed. You want to blame the crack. You want to blame the smack. I got you. The weed. Sorry. not trying to hear it.

But when it gets to the point where they're like, yo, you got to take the test, you're like, yeah, but I ain't really trying to do that. Knowing it's once a year, at the same time, every year,

gives you enough time to plan ahead properly. And it's not going to ruin your life to then continue to smoke weed throughout that. It's one time. And so that's, that's to your point.

That is definitely a problem. I saw you doing some Googling of trying to figure out who the player was. We got a lot of YouTube commenters. suggesting some options. Actually, I can't lie. I am going to my Spanish translator. There is a tweet from the president of Columbia to Trump.

And I speak enough Spanish to get the gist, but I wanted to check a couple of particulars. And buddy, it is a doozy. Dozie. You know, you have a rea reunion with my professor, who is in Colombia now

and it's very interesting to talk with her about my president and his president

I don't want to say my president is my president but is Vida

Aha I'm going to drop a little Spanish you know y'all show for show you know

that was really impressive because as you were reading it Andrew pulled up the

tweet next to me and I got to read of what you were saying. And you are right. It is a wild tweet. It is insane. I got this short summary. Like the longest of it is going. Yo, he, hold on. Um, I don't want, is that say slaves? Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right. Wait, wait a minute. Sean, I forgot. You got prize picks for the people. My bad. Yeah, quite a transition into

prize picks after reading that. We got some NBA games tonight. Let's go. Darius Garland, one and a half three-pointers made. I'll take more there. Austin Reeves against the Charlotte Hornets, 29 and a half points, rebounds and assists. I'll take more there. Mark Williams on the other side of the floor, 30 and a half points rebounds and assists. And Amen Thompson, a big matchup, Rockets versus Celtics tonight, 29 and a half points rebounds and assists. I like more there as well. I don't want slaves on the side of Columbia. We already have a lot in our freedom. Lots in our freedom.

Well, it's just, wow, man. But that definitely says slaves. Yeah. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. I'm sorry. I know enough to know the deal, but not enough to get all the way in it. And now I can't stop. Like, yo, I got to get to the, wow.

Whoa. Whoa. Yeah, you're like, how do I run? quicker to get into more of this tweet. Los assassinaro for leaders

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