The Right Time with Bomani Jones - NFL Week 10 reaction, Trump does play-by-play, Outkast Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction | 11.10

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Bomani Jones starts the show by explaining why he believes the Seattle Seahawks & the Los Angeles Rams have proven to be the two best teams in the NFL this season. Later, he breaks down Josh Allen's struggles vs. the Dolphins, Drake Maye's performance vs. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Caleb Williams' toughness in a win over the New York Giants. Finally, he reacts to President Donald Trump joining the FOX broadcast of Lions-Commanders, Outkast being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and the trailer for the Michael Jackson biopic. 00:30 - Rams & Seahawks dominate 08:30 - Week 10 QB play 28:25 - Trump does play-by-play 31:40 - Outkast become hall of Famers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got a lot of interesting quarterback talk to get to here. Also, some news for you. But, you know, during Sundays, Ryan and I sent text to each other. We try to figure out what it is that we're going to do for the show when it is that we might record the show and like we know just kind of general topics because again we did not really get a murderer's role of a slate this week but you know we're thinking about it we're going to figure out what we're going to do and then one thing I was thinking of saying was you know it doesn't feel this season like there are any truly excellent teams like we we have said

that we believe the cheeps will be excellent at the end of the year for example um the lions at times are beginning to look like the team they were last year when they were an excellent team. But we haven't seen the actual excellence from these teams, right? I watched the Colts play this morning, and I'm more certain than ever that that is not an excellent team, right? They want some games. A shout out to Jonathan Taylor. Hey, man, we got to, we're going to do our, he's going to be the official player of this show, the most underrated football player of all time.

But anyway, then the four o'clock slate of games was played, and I don't know about you guys, but I saw a couple of excellent teams. That would be the Los Angeles Rams and the Seattle Seahogs. Ryan, what am I supposed to? Oh, I was about to say, what am I supposed to do about Sam Darnel? But I saw Sam Darnel throw a pick and I saw Sam Darnel fumble. And I was like, see, that's the shit I'd be talking about.

They scored 44 points in that game. They have 44 points and they got up 28-0, the second week in a row. Yes. Let me tell you this, too. Remember we were talking earlier in this week Last week. We're being in Dominique. Kind of like, hey, man, this Jacoby percent thing has been cool, but let's not lose our minds

about this. They ate his ass up. Yeah. Like, I mean, Seattle looks excellent. Right. And they look excellent. And Sam Darnal looks excellent. He does. I can't. He looks excellent. You see it. You see it, right?

You hear me fighting it. But I'm not going to. do that right now. Just going to give him credit for what he's doing. Way to go, buddy. And then the Rams. The 49ers brought that game back to being like a one score game in the second half, but the Rams went up 21 nothing. And no matter how that game ended, I came away from that game feeling very much certain that those two teams are on, are of different classes. You know what I mean? Like, if you look at the numbers with the 49ers, their record has seemed to be better than them all year long.

The point differential indicates that sort of thing. You go to numbers like DVOA. It indicates that also. The Rams went out there and we're just handling them early, handling them. And then there's the whole, I don't really understand how it is that Matthew Stafford has continued to get better.

And he, year 17 version. Hey, didn't he need a backhiotomy during the preseason or something like that? Don't you remember that? Well, we was like, oh, no, what's going to happen here? Did the big old van outside. Like, I mean, maybe that was just an excuse to skip training camp because he had. Yeah, but it was like, yeah, I don't know if I can really do this.

And we were like, hey, it's a real bad sign. Matthew Stafford hasn't played all preseason. He looked like the goddamn MVP. Right. Like, but they are good, man. Like, they are where we're looking at this. So this division, right? Because I didn't think the 49ers looked bad in that game, by the way.

No, they just have so many injuries on defense. like they're out of answers. Right. But even with that, I just felt like they ran up against something bigger than no. Right. Right.

Like, yeah, I mean, look, they lost by 16 points. But still, I just felt like they ran up into a team that is better than them. Is it possible that the three best teams in that conference are in that division?

Again, I don't think the 49ers are necessarily that high, but you know, the Lions, somebody always heard over there. We don't understand exactly what's going on with the Packers. Or the Eagles. Right.

The Eagles. I mean, the Eagles got the game Monday night, right? You know, so that's going to be its own watching what happens with their. Oh, it's Eagles Packers. We won't walk away from that game knowing nothing. Correct. Right? Two questions.

What happens? Two question marks get into a fight. Right? It's going to look like the Soviet Union shit. You know what I'm saying? Like up there to corner, just going like that. But I definitely at this point think the 49ers into Seahogs are probably, are they the two best teams in the NFL? The Rams and the Rams.

Yes. I'm sorry. Yes. The Rams. Yeah. Are they the two best teams? teams in the NFL? They're close. I mean, the thing that impressed me about the Rams is that's the way

Sean McVeigh wants to play is he wants to run the ball. Yes. And when that team, you know, the year they first got to the Super Bowl, that was behind, you know, Todd Gurley and setting up all that play action. But they're running the ball extremely well. And then Devante Adams was just a steal on the offseason. Yes. I will also, he left. He had to go in the back.

during the second half of that game. One thing I appreciate about McVe, when McVe made the golf decision, right? By the way, a trade that apparently has worked out for everybody. The rare, yeah, the rare QB for QB trade that works out. Yes.

Though you could make the argument for Stafford, if you had just stuck around a little while longer, you could be leading America's team to glory that they had never ever achieved previous to that, gets yourself to statue in town in Detroit. Instead, you wanted to go to the good weather. They always want to go to the good weather.

I get McVeigh to Cruyne. credit for being the guy that's like, yeah, I am the quarterback whispering genius, but you know, I sure would like a guy that could throw the ball through the wall. How about that? Right? I got as far as I could with this pretty good. Let me go get something great. Like, will Kyle Shanahan ever get to the place where he does that? You know what I mean? Like, McVeigh, I feel like humbled himself in a way to Shanahan. Shanahan tried to with the Tray Lance thing. And he gave that shit a year and a half. And he was like, oh, no, no. Get me. He Kyle Shaddenham love him a six.

Love, love, love. He's like, yeah, give me a six. In fact, think about, I hadn't thought about this. Is it possible, Ryan, that Kyle Shaddenham made the wrong decision where he let San Donald go? I forgot that he was there in that backup for that year. He gave it another try, but he was just like,

nah, no. Can't do it. No, because then every, because then we walk in the room and they always looking at her. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, it's just always got to be about you, huh? Is that what it's got to be? the scheme.

Is that what it is? I have no idea of any of these things that true. I do know this. I've watched every really talented quarterback I've seen Kyle Shadahad getting has not worked. At some point, if you have, you know, if you have multiple, you know, you date three sixes in a row. Yeah.

It becomes a pattern of behavior. He's one of those, like those coaches that can only coach try hards. Right. But you give them a team of five stars and they're like, I don't know, you guy Dale Brown. Yeah. Unless you legend. That is a great.

He'll go to the final four with Hot Play Williams and a bunch of dudes that you've never heard of. Yeah. Give him Shaq Chris Jackson at Stanley Roberts. What is the Sweet 16?

I've never heard of that place before. Yeah. God. That's a sore spot I forgot existed. You're even too young. Yeah, I'm too young to watch it, but I got mad to reliving it. You're just thinking about it.

Yeah. Like, not that you have a concept of the idea. But those seem to be the guys, man. This is, it's going to be really interesting to see how this, season closes because look, I am not a believer that parody is a good thing. I want to have a Goliath and that everybody try to run up all of them and then if somebody get Goliath out of

there, then we can have parity. It looked like we might have a couple of them. It looked like it might be a division situation where they're geared up to face each other at the end. I'm not sure. I look forward to it though, but it is good to feel like we actually have a couple of great teams. All right. So this is an interesting week of quarterback play. There's so much to think about really, I was just going through just looking at how quarterbacks were playing. Like the young quarterbacks, the established quarterbacks, I did not think that he looked particularly good on Sunday. He didn't look bad, but, you know, Matt Corkle, Matt Jones, who just out there, nickel and diamond. Like, that was not a great quarterback. A coach

figures out a way to do something that isn't just throwing the ball to the dude seven yards away. You know what I mean? That's all I'm saying. Like, I'm not saying he played badly. And he was very, very accurate, that point being there, but really wasn't making a whole lie happen. That being said, we're in year five for that 2021 class of quarterbacks, which is one of the weirdest classes that there's ever been. But at this point in the year of our Lord 2025, Mac Jones is playing better than all of them, right? Better than Trevor Lawrence, better than Justin Fields. Trey Lance doesn't even get to play. Zach Wilson doesn't even get to play he, at the very least, has looked really good this year.

Justin Fields plays, but it's, you know, I forgot. It's a hit or miss. Yeah, no, I knew that it was one, but yeah, he's still playing, but. He's played for the, to be fair, he played for the chids. Yeah, correct. And, oh, hey, didn't they win the game? I feel like they got to, they got to themselves.

They did win the game, but they were playing the Browns. It's kind of like half the Big Ten. Yeah, exactly. Somebody's got to get themselves. the W. My man said that the Browns fans are starting to call Dylan Gabriel, groundhog Gabriel. I'm assuming that that is a reference to how small he is. Oh, goodness, Ryan, 6-4-11 for 54 yards with a touchdown at a pick. That was Justin Fields. Yeah, we might be doing Shadur next week.

Let me tell you something. Here's my question about that. Like, Kevin Dufanski rather get fired or play Shadu or say. We're going to find out in the next 24 hours. They're going to tell him, and he's going to say, and we're going to find out. That's becoming a good question. Yeah, I mean, but this is the trickback for them, right? To be fair to him about that, if you go to Chador, you have no other play to make. And I suppose that with a very young quarterback like Gabriel, you can go back to him because, like, how dare he?

You know what I'm saying? Like, what room does he have to say anything about it? But it's still really absurd that they're at a place now where it's just like, hey, man, we have nothing else that we can do. this is it. And so once you push this your door button, you better, at once you better hope he balls. But on the other hand, if he does,

that's not a good look either. So basically, why don't they just go ahead and fire that man right now? I just realized I completely taught myself into the idea that he's out of there. But now, looked at Matt Jones and thought, who would have believed at any point before these guys got to the league, while they've been in the league,

all the way to now, that that class would be five years in, and Matt Jones, who none of us actually know if he's actually good, but he better than the rest of them, or at least he's playing better than the rest of them. And I don't feel like Trevor Lawrence is currently in one of those situations

where you could just be like everything is gone wrong around him. You know what I mean? Like, there's enough for him to be a right. and, yeah, you know. But let's talk about these young guys, all right? A very interesting matchup with the Giants of New York against the Bears of Chicago. I turned that on, watched a little bit of that.

Well, at first, I had been watching New England and Tampa Bay. And, hey, obviously there's room for things to change and that's part of what we're discussing here. But, Ryan, I think I'll be shocked. if Drake May does not turn out to be the guy out of that 2024 draft. Right. I mean, like, I mean, he's, they've won seven games in row. He's the favorite to win MVP right now.

Yeah, I mean, look, what's his name? Jane Daniels going to get knocked around. Right. Right. Like, he was excellent last year. Don't want to pretend like he wasn't. But which of those two do I think is more talented? I'm going with May.

And this game against Tampa was interesting because, you know, we had talked about this. New England had been beaten up bulbs. Like, they didn't have a win to hold their hat. hang their hat on. And to be fair, Tampa Bay, you know, looks about the same. I looked at DVOA. They were right next to each other going into the week in their rankings. But no, no, no, New England has a guy. Like, it's not just the numbers. It's the way that he's doing. Yeah. They got a guy. And you go all the way back. I mean, this is the guy that Alabama was trying to throw the bag at transfer. Like this is, it was him and

Caleb Williams coming in. Jane Daniels obviously has that amazing, you know, 20, 23 year. But Drakeway, you know, athletic pedigree, and, you know, like there's no, no, yada, yada, yada winning seven games in a row. No, no, no, no, no. When your best weapon is old Stefan Diggs? Well, it's seven wins in a row and he's doing it. Like, this is not, for example, Ben Rothensberger as a rookie when they won, I may have been like 14 games in a row.

I can't remember how many, but they had a crazy run while he was there. And he was a bit of a passenger, right? Like this, he was, Drake May is not a passenger. Now, granted, they also got 150 yards on the ground from Henderson. So I don't want to pretend as though nobody else is doing anything, but no, watching him play versus even watching Daniel's play. And I think that a lot of that has to do with May passes the eye test in a different way just because he is so much bigger and so much sturdier.

Right. Like we think of these quarterbacks as tall and thick, right? You know, like even like, and then you still have a little bit of the mobility with May. Yeah, well, let me also tell you this. If I were trying to make the case that racism was over, right? Just throw it out there. I was trying to make it. The idea that Caleb Williams is clocking it at about 6'2 and Jane Daniels can fit my clothes,

but Drake May went number three. Good exhibit. Poor, boy, yeah, I'm not to say. What you go, what you're going to say to me now, right? you're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. But no, he looks like that guy. And we've talked a lot about, you know,

I talked about this a little early in the show, but we talked a lot about how, you know, the chiefs have won the division 157 times in a row. This is this the year they lose their grip. And now the question comes up about Buffalo. And the question comes up about Buffalo, in part because of Drake May and the other part. By the way, Buffalo was just lost to Miami

where we've been firing their, coach every week for like two months now. Um, they didn't just lose to Miami. They kind of got trounced. And Josh Allen was looking like old Josh Allen, like the Josh Allen that used to fumble. I thought they had gotten over that. Uh, the Josh Allen that throws the ball away. Like, Ryan, I don't know how much you've got a chance to watch them, but I don't have a great handle on why it is that they are, they just got to look like a team. Now, granted, they won their Super Bowl last week against the Chief. So maybe we should have just written this down. Right. It's weird because you look at the weapons that Josh Allen has.

We were talking about this before. So James Cook is an elite running back. And then it's a lot of, it's a lot of dudes out there. It's a lot of Keon Coleman, it's a lot of Dalton Kincaid. There's not a go-to, like, got-to-have-it receiver in that group. I just want to throw this out there. He out there throwing a ball to Dalton, Dawson, and Jackson.

And those are those guys first names. Every single one of them, that's the first name. And I am pretty sure that they are all to be checking on these Jackson Halls. That's right. All tight ends. Right. Tight ins and quarterback. So the double last day situation, everywhere you look.

But yeah, I'm looking right at that listing. And I'm just, by the way, I don't really know how that trend, like, really got started. And I know how it goes sometimes, right? Where, like, you name the kid, the mother's maiden name, which often happens in situations where like that's a family that only had daughters. So the family name was not going to go anywhere. And so you just send it over. You know what I mean?

Like that's what you do when you name the kids or whatever. But I got to be honest with you. When I see last name, last name, I think of two things, Ryan. Kappa Alpha Order and Sigma Alpha Epsilon. Yes. Yes. Now, black people, you may be wondering what that means. So you know how is black people you only find out about fraternity?

when they do something messed up and racist, you've heard of these before. Yeah, yeah, a lot of famous alums. It's come up, you know, shocking. Shocking by the way, Bill Jackson, Pete Carroll. What? Both SAE. Wait, that's...

I don't even understand that. You don't go to this school. No, I don't know. Like, you're not even from around there. I mean, the fair, the other one's a little bit worse. That is fair. But, but that's surprising. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's a lot going on there. It's a lot going on. But anyway, they asked. I was not to say it was a long time ago, but I don't know that makes it worse or better. Don't either. But they ask you Josh Allen to throw the ball and Dalton, Dawson, and Jackson.

It's all I'm saying. And he's not doing a great job of it. And I say that he's not doing a great job of it. Because to be honest, that's what they've been asking them to do for the better part of the last two or three years. Right? But he's not looking like MVP,

Josh Allen. I think that we would all agree upon that. But I want to get back back right fast than young quarterbacks because I realized I did not talk about the young quarterback I wanted to talk about. Hey, man, well, two of them. Giants, uh, Giants, bears, there we go. Right, I realized that I had completely forgotten

that I brought that up in the first place. Like, that was, we don't have, I don't have that, I don't had them four letters, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like I did a great impression of them right there. My bad. Anyway, Jackson Dart, looks good. Let me tell you something about Brian Dayball that I find to be interesting. I think that Brian Daybold is the Bill Belichick of his day in the sense that he has figured

out a market inefficiency as in relation to racism that he could exploit in football. And his is where Bill Belichick figured out I can get these white receivers for cheap. Brian Dayball is like, it'll be years before they realize this white boy can run. Four rushing touchdowns in five games. He did it with Josh Allen. Right. He did it with Daniel Jones. Right.

By the way, he did a terrible job coaching Jalen Hurts at Alabama. Right. For whatever it's worth. But he has figured out, they'll never suspect the thing. You get that white boy to ball and let him run. Nobody ever sees it. Maybe that's why he got Dalton, Dawson, and Jackson out there because they fast any body thinks.

Like everything he's doing, he just gas, like, y'all. It's just my games. But anyway, they have Jackson Dart out there running. And, hey, I got questions about him. He's got a little title of hero. to help. You understand what I'm saying? Like, I look, I'll just throw this out there, okay? And you let me know if this is an inappropriate point to make. And I look this up after I saw Jackson Dart score a touchdown and then simulate shooting craps in the end zone. And not with the

fellas, just by himself, okay? He is from Caysville, Utah. He is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ for Latter-day Saints, but he did not go on a mission. He didn't. He did not. You don't count the two years at USC saving people in Los Angeles? I didn't know that that was an... No, I'm cool was an option, by the way. On that one, I didn't know. I didn't know that.

But I try to figure out, look, I know he played ball in Old Miss, but come on, baby, it's Ole Miss. Right. Where did he pick this up? Like, like all of this... I don't really understand it. Maybe he's a little salty. They keep trying to pair him with Scataboo,

but he really want to be like Malik. neighbors is really the homie, right? Yeah, both those guys aren't out there right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but maybe that's the game. I don't know, but he got a personality thing I don't know, but Brian Daibold is like, trust me, kid, they'll never know you can run. Anyway, this time when he ran, they banged his head against the ground real hard, and he had to go into the blue tent.

But luckily this time, Brian Daibold did not himself run into the blue tent to see what was going on because he was so terrified of putting Russell Wilson in the game. Now, it was a bad look when he went into the tent just to not put Russell Wilson in the game. But if you watched the Giants and the Bears, you understand why Brian Dayball went back there and was like, how many of my two fingers am I holding up? Too cool. Come on. Let's go. Because, nah, it wasn't a good love for Russell Wilson. Now, Giants were up in that game, and I turned to it, and all I saw was stats at first and Caleb Woodrow. Williams numbers did not look good.

And then I watched a few plays and he did not look good. And then I listened on the broadcast and they were talking about the rate of pressure that he was under. And I was like, okay, mitigating factor. And they came back and won that game. And yes, part of that again is that the Giants lost their quarterback. But I feel like if you're a Bears fan, that had to be a really encouraging performance. He made some big throws in terms of like big arm, big talent throws.

but the biggest thing to me in watching that was, man, they was on his ass and he was finding ways to make it happen. Like I do realize in the way that I look at football, or really all sports really, but in football, I guess it comes up more particularly that the older I get in the more that I watch in this, like that grit stuff, it's not the be all end all. It doesn't like always the determinant factor,

but there's something to it. And we've heard a lot about how this young man may be a bit immature and the way that he has handled things as has been a less than professional at points. But that was a grown man performance there. And his guys were letting him down. Like his guys are dropping passes. His guys are not blocking.

He's making big runs. He's getting outside the pocket and making big throws. Like that was that second half for Caleb Williams. And they're six and three now? They're six and three. And we've seen a lot of times that quarterbacks get hit so much. Yes. You know, they essentially get out the league.

Right? Like, and Ken Williams got socked, like I think it was 68 times last year or something Sir number and the fact that he stayed in there and making those throws is impressive. Yeah. Now, look, you know my thing, sacks are a quarterback stat. Like, if you allow sacks, if you are sacked a lot as a quarterback, those numbers stay pretty consistent for most guys. The lines can change, the team can change and everything else.

But that sack rate, generally speaking, stays around the same. That hasn't happened with Caleb Williams. It was like, Ryan to tell you, he got sacked 68 times last year. Coming into the game this week in eight games, he got sacked four. He had been sacked 14 times. Like, he has clearly improved there. The team is playing well. There's still questions to be asked about him.

But, hey, man, I think something worth considering when it comes to anybody that gets drafted, number one, any of those spaces where you start talking about bust, not bust, da, da, da. it is always tempting to look at somebody that has taken number one in viewing them entirely in comparison with who else you could have taken. To me, the outlook that keeps everything most reasonable is as long as you got somebody good, you did okay. Now, maybe you could have gotten somebody better, but as long as you got somebody good, you did okay. Now, of course, there are levels to this, right? If you're the Houston Rockets and you get a Keem Elijah on, you don't trip that much about Michael Jordan.

But when you get Sam Bowie, you trip because, you know, you got nothing. You feel me? If the Bears got a good quarterback who can be their quarterback for however long, it doesn't matter how good the other guys are. Did you get yourself a starting quarterback? And if you got a starting quarterback, bless you guys. Very, very important for you. And right now, you may not have one, but it looks like you might have one.

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He showed up during the Lions' commanders games, started doing some play-by-play. and it turns out Adam Schaefter's reporting that he wants the Washington commanders to name their new stadium they're building after him. White House Swartz said there have been back channel communications with commanders ownership group led by Jess Harris to express Trump's desire to have the dome stadium in the nation's capital bear his name. Bo your thoughts. I just want to throw this out here too because Ryan left this out. I don't know if Trump is courageous or simply oblivious. But just throwing it out here. You guys have any idea what the number one employer is,

who the number one employee is in Washington, D.C.? You want to just take a guess? The federal government. Have you talked to any of your friends who work for the federal government? They are not a good time right now. Have you talked to anyone who tried to get on a plane this? weekend. Yeah, yeah, not a good time. And Donald Trump stood before those people and he read some proclamation of something to him and they was booing him, man. Like, that was a, that was an incredibly

risky move. I don't know what was on his mind when he decided to do that. The same as I don't know what's on his mind where he wants the stadium named after him. And this is the reason why I'm saying that. I'm trying to think of the stadiums that are named. after politician. And I can only think of two. RFK Stadium in Washington, where they're looking to build a new stadium. And if I'm not mistaken, Philly has the John F.K.,

John F. Kennedy Stadium. I'd have to walk down, but I think that's the case. Yeah. What did they have to do to get stadiums named after them? I would not want a stadium named after me is all I'm saying. Right? Like, they don't, they don't, they don't,

They don't do that just because they like you, okay? When they name a stadium after you, somebody going to be in the first game wearing an armband. You don't want the stadium named after you, brother. I'm just telling you that right now. And this is, you know, just such a bizarre situation. Him coming on to, like, though, but you're just texting me watching the Lions game.

It's like, uh, so by the way, Trump's on the call. Yeah, then he texted me and was like, something about Fox. I'm like, what are he talking about? He's like, Trump is in the boot. I'm like, what you mean? Trump is in the booth. I turn it over. Trump is in the booth.

He's on the, he called a play. I just can only imagine being those two guys. It's being like, oh, Trump's coming. Cool. Trump's coming during the game. Okay. Trump's going during the third quarter. In live action.

Live action. Yeah. Right? On one hand, that sounds like a production nightmare. On the other hand, somebody at Fox is like, hey, we get through every morning with Terry Bradshaw. You guys can get through one drive with Donald Trump. All right.

We're going to drastically shift gears here. Outcast was inducted into the Rock Roll Hall fame on Saturday. Obviously, that's a group that has had a bent impact on your life. What was it like for you seeing them inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall fame? You know, I'll stop looking for validation from these sorts of institutions and operations. but I always would look back to when they won the best album Grammy for a speakerbox love below. And it was just absurd that was even possible, right?

That was the thing that got me was that it was just absurd that it was even possible that such a thing like that could happen. I will say this, though, they deserve better than Doja Cat. And it's not because Doja Cat is not talented. She just clearly has not have a real investment in this act, right? Like the idea The tribute performances like those

Should not simply be Just putting together the coolest group of people That you can You know what I mean? Like I feel like this You know the most famous group of people Who's available? Right.

So here's a hot take That people would not expect for me Me and my buddy Jay Adde had talked about this And I hadn't thought about it until he said it, right? Everybody loves the Prince While My Guitar Jilly Weeps Performance for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction of O'4.

Here's the thing. that was the George Harrison tribute performance. George Harrison had died, okay? It was a lot of George Harrison people, like George Harrison's son is there, Tom Petty, his fellow Wilbury, he's up there. I think Steve Winwood's playing in the band,

but you know, it was very heavily loaded, you know, his contemporaries who were there, okay? And I don't want to pretend as though George Harris's son did not enjoy the Prince performance. However, let me tell you who didn't give a good goddamn about George Harrison. in that moment.

He wasn't thinking about George. This is a tribute performance to a dead man. He threw his guitar up in the air and walked off the stage. You do not have... You're not here. Some people are not built

to memorialize others. Right. Well, I think he can memorialize some people. Yeah. But that was not... He completely forgot that that's what this was about. That's all I'm saying.

He completely forgot. And I kind of felt that with Doja Cat, right? But she's not Prince. Correct. Right? It's just like, oh, why are you here? Like, what are you? Tyler, the creator, okay, cool.

You know, I can see that. You seem like that sort of guy that would have been into them. But no, man, it's just they are the greatest rap group of all time. They are, as far as groups go, I don't think a group has emerged in any genre since they came up. That is as good as them. And my favorite thing is, we all seem to understand and agree apart. on that. And if you disagree, take that shit somewhere else because I don't want to hear it. All right. Let's move over to the NBA. Derek White told an interesting story about on his podcast about

Joe Missoula. It goes like this, quote, so it was me and Peyton Pritchett and we're going and Joe's like, play the music. White recalls, next thing you know, it's just machine guns going off. And I'm like, what is going on? So the entire time we did this drill, the machine guns just were just nonstop. That's how we started practice. He's like, play the music. And the next thing, you know, we're in a war zone. What was your reaction to hearing this? My favorite coach. That's easy.

I love him. I don't understand him at all. What are you, why would you do that? That reminds me of the clip where he was on Julie, I sent this to you, where he was on Julian Netherlands podcast and said, like instead of escape rooms,

he wants to do like hostage negotiations. Yes, yes. But my question with that plate of music, who all knew that was coming? Did the assistants know that he was going to do that? Like, does he sit in with the assistant? It's like, I have an idea. We're going to play gunfire during practice today so that they know that it's a war. Right?

Like, like, do other, what does it like him to be your boss? Like, it's one thing for him to be your coach. What does it like for him to be your boss? Like, if you're the secretary, or you're an assistant coach, or you're the trainer. How does he deal with those people? I like the idea that this is a person who does, and somewhere between 80 and 100 of high leverage moments every day. That's his whole job,

not to mention the other, you know, 50 hours a week he's doing, preparing for those high leverage moments. And he's like, eh, this isn't really, you know, scratch the edge I need. You know, this rigour season doesn't really jack me up the way I need to. I need to hear live fire just to, like, really get my heart. racing. Not just like gunfire and then a rap music song start playing. You know what I'm saying?

Nope, nope, nope, just gunshots. Yeah. I mean, that's like, yeah, you know, like if you could make a shot, you know, when guns are going off, you'll make you shot when there's noise. And if you can catch a wrench. Yeah, exactly. You can dodge a wrench. You can dodge a ball.

Yeah, that's like, that's his logic taken to the Joe Mizzula place. What a time. All right. So, and finally, the teaser trailer dropped for the Michael Jackson biopic. That's coming out. April of 2006. The teaser trailer for the movie racked up over 116 million

views in the first 24 hours making the largest launch in Lions Gates history, plus the most viewed trailer for not just music by the pics, but also concert movies that includes, you know, whatever Taylor Swift just put out in the last few years. But what was

your reaction to this news and the big reception for it? People really, really love Michael Jackson. Like, I remember when he died, which is... 16 years ago? 16 years ago.

Even though it was kind of nascent day Twitter, right? Twitter starts in 2007. This was in 2009. I feel like this was the first really big social media moment, right? Because remember, TMZ broke the news. It legitimized the entirety of that operation. And I remember, because, like, you know, I don't have a memory.

Third was 1982. I'm born in 1980. Michael Jackson's been a fucking weirdo for as long as I've been alive at that point. And that was even before we get to the allegations involved in children, right? He died, and the only thing I thought was, man, I did not realize how hard

in the paint that y'all went for Michael Jackson. You know, there was points, man, where brothers was boy Michael Jackson at award shows. You know what I mean? Like, there was a fall, and then when he died, you'd realize, no, no, no, man. People really love Michael Jackson. Like I watch me and the homie Tray and my homie Rodney, we were over here. And we watched, you ever seen this, the Michael Jackson concert, I think it's 1992,

Dangerous Tour from Romania? I have not seen this, no. Okay, you need to watch this. Okay. Because I refer to Michael Jackson as Silo Sabin. And when I say that, he is Silo Sabin in the sense that the idea of that Silo Sabin is like ego death, like the whole thing about the mushroom thing, the ego death. Michael Jackson dissolves ego from whoever is around.

Like James Brown's ego dissolves in the presence of Michael Jackson. All those old heads when Michael Jackson was a little kid were all like, no, no, no. This one right here. This one right here is different, right? The Romania concert, that's the one where everybody's in there passing out, right? And they're having to carry people out of there. Think about this. This Romania, this was after communism.

Nobody had no nice clothes off. They got, they got muffing in a wheelchair that they passing around the concert in a wheelchair. He never thought they was going to see Michael Jackson. A woman got on stage somehow to see Michael Jackson, and she just froze, right? And Mike told her, like, to come a little closer, to give her a hug, and he gave her a hug. And she was still froze.

And then she tried to take it a little bit too far and they had to get her ass off the stage. Talk about things that could only happen in 1992. Right. It's crazy even in 1992, right? And so while she's going away, Mike is like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

I'm just watching this. I'm like, this is Romania, man. Like, think about the hell they had to go through a Romania to get their hands on bad. Right? Like, just to get a tape and communist Romania, what they had to do. He just, it's different with him.

And I need people to understand it's different with him because we know what's going to happen when this movie comes out. It's going to turn it into, well, what about dot, dot, dot, dot, right? And that's, and there's a lot of dot, dot, dot, dot. There's a lot of dot, dot, dot, I'll be honest with you. I have never, I have, I am not a Michael Jackson fan, just to be clear. I have never been convinced that he did when he was accused of.

And I will note that Santa Barbara County put they back into putting Michael Jackson in jail. They, it is, this is not a situation where nobody looked into it. And nobody was invested in seeking justice. Mike wrote that song about that man on the history record. He was like, yeah, okay, let's see what you got. And they didn't have the goods, right? That's me. I'm not telling you what you should or should not believe.

What I am telling you is these matters, however you feel is how you are going to feel about this. No changing. It's not like it's never come up before, right? Like, this isn't like when straight out of Compton came out and people were reminded about what happened with Dr. Dre and D. Barnes, right? Now, nobody forgot about this with Michael Jackson. They've just made their call. Whatever their call may be, they have made their call. Now, do I actually want to watch a Michael Jackson movie?

We had the Jackson's movie that came on TV. That was good enough for me. I don't really, I don't want to watch the part of the Michael Jackson movie to get to what I was just talking about. I don't want that part at all. All right, Bo, voicemail lines open. More good ones as always. Let's take a listen to our first. Oh, Monty, Michael, and Charlotte.

I have to back up your whole Derek Anderson behind Cam Newton thing because so many people, and we've had season tickets since 95 or 96, they all stream for Derek Anderson. Now, what I really wanted to talk about is the fact that the Sports Illustrated cover with Cam and those two bubs. When I saw Cam in the Iron Ball, I knew he was going to be the first round pick. Panthers got the first round pick. I celebrated because that guy is legit. There were so many people in Charlotte who were like, I don't know, they might go with one

of the other two quarterbacks. I'm not a gambler, but I want hundreds. And yes, I said hundreds of dollars betting that Cam would be the number one pick. with Panthers fans it was wild to me that there was even a question but here I am vetting them 150

100 pop multiple people it was one of the greatest draft days of my life keep up a good word I hope you'll have a good one talk to you later I just can't imagine putting money on Blaine Gabbard

being the number one pick in the draft because the only conclusion that I could draw if you said that, and this is how racist these people had to be. The only way that you could think that Blaine Gabbard would have been the double-boy picking the draft is if you yourself had never seen Blaine Gabbard play football. Right. Or never seen Cam Newton play football.

Right, right? I was I was going to say. So what they say, and I know you had seen that, right? So what this means is you saw Cam Newton play and all you knew about this other guys that his name was Blaine. And you were like, I got him. Blaine or Jake Locker, who I know you didn't see play. Well, so I will say this, though, boy. it took a long time for me to get off the Jake Locker way.

Oh, interesting. Oh, man. Jake Locker, like freshman year Jake Locker was something. Like, Jake Locker is the dreaded athlete playing quarterback. Right. He's just white. Correct. But he's the exact guy.

No, no, no, no. Like, I mean, if you're going to get an athlete playing quarterback, get the better athlete playing quarterback. He was the athlete. He wasn't Cam Newton. Yeah, just to be clear. But Blaine Gabbard was the unforgivable one. Right.

Yeah. playing at the Big 12 Missouri. Where Chase Daniel was a much better player. He never could beat Chase Daniel out for that job. Chase Daniel, who guess what, was also a better NFL player. All right, here's our next one. What's up, Beau? This is Steve from Arkansas.

I love the show. The last show, y'all were talking about Tyler Murray. And, you know, he's one of the guys he throws to may or may or not have a dad who plays in the league. and who may or may not have got a golden jacket. I was just wondering if you seen the clip. I saw Tony Dungey do an interview or podcast, and he was talking about said player.

And one of his first meetings, games with the Colts, he was talking about how he joked about them not be able to cover, him who will not be named. Anyway, after the meeting, this player goes up to Coast and says, Coach, I don't joke about what goes on on the field. So if you don't mind, don't joke about me again. And Coach Jundee, well, he gives that advice, thankfully.

I'm not the biggest fan of his politics, but, you know, he, but he's willing to be good with him. He got a bull there, literally. I just wanted you to see, I just want to you seen that, you can, you can search, you can search for, I think the name of the podcast is not just football, something like that, if you want to look that up. But be careful, though. And you ain't hear none of this for me, but. Keep doing what you do. Love the show. Like I said,

stay safe. Yeah, I hadn't seen that. And that particular gentleman, number 88, I believe is, you know, Harvin, Marison.

He said he don't joke about what he'd do on the field. And correct me if I'm wrong. He said that Tony Dudjie was saying how nobody could cover him. And he doesn't even want to joke about that. I would like to know what does he joke about?

I don't know if you saw this, Ryan, but there were some quotes from- I don't remember hearing a quote from this man ever, but he finally had enough. Harvey-Marison gave a zillion quotes about the Cardinals' office about a week or two ago. And he's like, they would take my gold jacket back

if I played in that offense. Like he just said, how terrible that offense was, and I'm saying right now, y'all better fix that shit. and also leaving me now to wonder what it's like when that's your dad. Yeah, you're like, what is there? I'm going to come up there and talk to the, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I'll take care of it. I'll be fine. Like, magic you show when you come to work, you get it, and you look and sitting in your chair as a Hall of Famer.

Just wonder we could talk. Why wouldn't we? All right, here's our last one. Hey, what's up, Omani? I'm listening to the episode with Roy, junior and you just shared the story about your brother's society. I need to get my life together. Similar thing happened to me was 2011.

I was taking a semester off from junior college. I was like, man, I must just start working. I'm going to be good with this $1,350 I'm making. I remember one day my boss was stressing me about something, and he looked at me and he said, hey, man, you got to pull it together, man. He was an A, man. He said, we got to pull together. And we got pulled together, man, because I'm stressed out, right?

I looked at this man. He was 32 years old. He looked 45, and he was stressing about making $17 an hour as a supervisor as a conservatory music in San Francisco. I looked at that man, saw all the life that I didn't want. And he had to be out of Wadford kids. and I said, you know, I'm going back to college. I went back to Contra Costa, transferred from Contra Costa, and I am a graduate of UC Santa Barbara with a sociology degree,

and I'm a teacher now. Thanks for the day. Thanks for the show, Bermani. I appreciate you. He won't go be working at another job. I'll tell you something. I had the simpler space, so my senior college, I decided when I got out of school,

I was going to be a freelance writer, right? I had been making a little money writing. I've been doing all right, maybe a couple hundred dollars, four hundred dollars in a month. You know, and then I was doing okay. You know, I was on scholarship. So just a little extra money in my pocket. It was cool. And I remember it was around February or so when I was emailing with a guy, I just started writing.

And I emailed with him, you know, just hey, what's going on? And he had been a freelance in it. Like in my head, he's a professional writer. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't realize at the time that he had another job. and I asked him how he was doing. And I remember he told me he was excited because he just got through getting

the stuff together for his taxes. And he had made $10,000 freelancing. And I was like, excuse me? For the year? $10,000. And my meat plans for the immediate future are lacking. Whoa, boy, there's nothing like hearing that. And you're like, oh, man.

I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about a different world. Yikes. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this three, sometimes four times a week. Ryan Brumley handed everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line. 3-2-3-9, 6-7-67-6-7. It's your world. Talk about whatever you want. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. And we'll talk to you guys in a couple of days.

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