The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Roy Wood Jr. on Media Beef, Black Scots, Browns & Shedeur Sanders mismanagement | 08.27

Episode Date: August 27, 2025

Bomani Jones is joined by Roy Wood Jr., formerly of "The Daily Show" and currently the host of Have I Got News for You on CNN. They discuss the unintentional consequences of squatting and the strange media beefs of 2025. Later, they talk about Roy's adventures in Scotland and whatever is going on with Shedeur Sanders in Cleveland. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is that time of week where we have a guest join us.

He got a book coming out soon. I don't really know the name of it. It's always tricky when I'm talking about people who right now don't have like full-time jobs. So I'll be necessarily knowing how to do the interest. but it's the Holy Roy Wood. I think that's where I'm supposed to say a man who needs no introduction. I probably could have done that. But now I see through that when people do it.

I'm like, oh, you just can't remember what the things were. It's like when black comics bring you on stage. Y'all seen them on all the shows. Comedy View, BET, Dead Jail. Show you love. A Def Jam ain't been on in almost 20 years. Ain't anybody seen me on it. You've seen them on all the sketches and then doing the thing on

Clubs and colleges all over. Yeah, man, good to see you, man. Man and Many Fathers is available for pre-order. Grab that. It's a good Christmas gift, ladies. Get that for your man who ain't, who ain't, you know, doing shit in your life. Well, look, I'm looking forward to getting my copy of the book

so that I can then have you on the show to talk about it. And, of course, as somebody who knows you, and we have group chat dinners and who has a bit of an understanding of what comes with that title, Man of Many Fathers. I think you guys are going to greatly enjoy this book that I have not even read. yet. But the vision is seen. Coming to you live from a Midtown Hotel while a contractor

tears up my house because there's apparently a water leak in my walls that I didn't know about for two years. Oh, and that is always the condo dilemma of who do the walls belong to? Bro, bro. I'm going to have some meetings with these folks above me because I don't know what y'all been doing. And my AC been leaking for so long, I need to go downstairs to the folks under me and just be like, hey, my bad. That's all the movie, dog. I ain't even know the water pump was broke. Here's what it is, man.

Home repairs, have you wanted to just live in a tent the rest of your life? I get why white people be living in them little tiny houses and them storage containers. You got to deal with none of this bullshit. Brother, let me tell you something. I own a house in North Carolina. And I got a tenant who lives in the house,

but the tenants are my people. And quite honestly, I'm the most generous landlord in the world, right? Like, I'm not, I'm not doing this to make money. The money that I would make off of them per month would be inhumane. Like, when my guy first moved in there, he was in law school. It's one of my former students, right? I'm like, no. You know, take care of, you know, be in the crib, take care of the crib, get your life right, little homie. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what, right, right. That's what I'm there to provide the security to help. And it's been my privilege to be able to help them out. But brother, brother, brother, when I got this

call in June after I had just made a fairly significant purchase and they told me that the air conditioner went out. Not just we need a new compressor, which is its own situation. The air conditioner went out. Oh, the whole joint. The whole outside joint. The H, the V, the A, and the C. They like, look, the AC went out and I'm going to be honest with you. The furthest about to go out too. brother, I was like, okay, well, how much that going to cost? It's been a long time since somebody gave me how much that going to cost. And I had to be like, I'm sorry, say that again. Like even if I didn't like it, it's like, all right, man, I got this.

Man, they told me $15,000. I said, what? Like, is there a tariff on that? Right? I had to have a homie tell me that his cost $15,000. So I didn't feel like I was getting worked. If you was a real landlord, you'd have just put some ceiling fans in that thing, told them keep on.

But see, that was the thing about it, is that because it was the tenant, I had to approach it with a different urgency because it's June, it's North Carolina, I can't leave you in there with no air conditioner. I'm sure there's a wall that says that can't be done. Yeah, that feels illegal. It feels like some base level, what I'm entitled to as a tenant, type situation. But yo, man,

these home repair stuff. I get why people be squatting now. Like you ever see them videos when somebody just come home and it's just somebody in your house?

Yeah, just that's it. We live together. That's where the world's, you know that's where it's headed. Yes. Folks doing bad, man. Folks doing bad. I get it, man.

I get that. I think something about squatting that you learn in many different capacities, which is on every level, people can just decide not to leave. Like, you really don't have that many plays with somebody's like, well, no, I'm actually, I'm just not going to go, right?

Like, that was, we said that was the kind of it, kind of the Donald Trump January 6th situation. That is trying to get your money out of any lawsuit. That can be a breakup in a relationship. Like, I'm just, and also I see it very often with you guys parenting. now that you had to take, you know, you had to take the driver out of the bag now and all you got is you got to have a strong iron game. You can't just rear back

and knock them 300 yards like you used to. Right? Like you ain't got a whole lot of plays and the little homies just like, no, not going to bed. Oh, dude. Yeah, it's just not much you can do. Like, I almost feel like in a weird way, I respect squatting because you

just betting that they're not a gun owner. Like, you're just, you're basically just going this nice I saw you leave for work I know your patterns so I'm just walking your crib and now I live here and I'm just never leaving

and I dare you to put hands on me yeah and if people don't I mean part of it is that the squatting population is typically a group of people that you don't want to put your hands on you just don't want to touch them I do think the more we get into these smart locks

though evictions are going to take on a different look and it'll just be, I lock you out of your house type situations. I mean, you can break in, you can figure out a way to pop a window or something like that. But like the new way,

like how they have the kill switches on your car. And if you miss a car note, your car just turn off. Yes. And then I think they changed it to, it just won't start again because folks' cars were just turning off on the freeway

in the left lane. Oh, good point. the repo kill switch. It can't happen in motion. Like it can't happen at twop in-night. You hit that repo kill switch, your ass merging in front of an 18-wheeler. You're not, you get in front of an 18-wheeler.

You weren't supposed to merge in front of it, but you're gunning it. Because you know you got a V-6, and then that thing just, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, can't have that. That's a great point. You can't have this.

You can't. Like, you also just made me think about something that I had not considered with that is that are they putting the repo man out of business? No, somebody still got to come get the truck. Certain stuff AI can't do. You can't Tesla auto-drive a repo. Okay, so.

You can barely auto-drive a taxi way mode to pick people up. But does it make the repo man's job less hazardous? Because I don't feel like the repo man is a consistent topic of conversation like it was, say, 30 years ago when there was actually a rassler named the repo man because people was getting their shit repossessed at such staggering rates. But everybody, well, I mean, I guess you young people maybe don't.

But the repo man has a very simple job. You stop paying your car note. And the repo man, according to a very particular set of laws, then is entitled to pull the truck up, catch up your car, and take it with him. The problem with that for the repo man is very self-evident, which is people will shoot you before they let you take their car.

Even if the car isn't really theirs, the car now belongs to the bank. No, no, no, no, no. The repo man got a head at heat because that other man got that heat. I had a profession at college who told me that he used to ride around with the repo man when he was in high school for extra money. And there's something happened. And the repo man pulled up and buddy pulled the heat out the window. And the repo man pulled his heat back.

And the only person that didn't have the heat was him. And he realized very quickly that riding around with the repo man had a lot more to it. He was like, it would be funny. They go pull up people's cars and they be all bad and screaming and pointing down the way. But the repo man cold with it. Now, you're seeing a new tow truck tech? They yanking them in the get in the time. There's videos.

In the time it takes you to go inside the gas station to pay for your gas, gone. Gone. They pull up no chains, no nothing. They put two lifts up under the front two tires. Real wheel front wheel, don't matter. Got it. And then they take it around the corner and secure it. But they can lift and roll your shit in under 30 seconds, bro.

The real repo job ain't even cars. I had a partner in college who used to do repos for Renner Center. And I'm telling you everything they showed on that TV show Southside, that sitcom, is real. You got to knock on somebody's door for a love. seat. Now, you want to talk about knowing that you're coming. You know Renner Center coming because they call you four or five times. Hey, you missed the $12 payment on the VCR. I got to come get that VCR from you. And my dog in college is going up to, he's like 18, 19 years old. And these are the homes of grown-ass

uncles, 45, 50 years old with that old man's strength. Come on in here and get the sofa. And this is fucked up part. My dog would have to go and repole a sofa, but had to move it himself because they wouldn't help him. So you move a big-ass Oakwood sectional at 19 dolo in somebody's

house who calling you ain't shit to your face the whole time you dragging it out the door for 750 an hour. Well, hold on. Forget about the idea that you're expected to move this furniture by yourself. How about the very real

possibility that it's about to be a fight and you are going by yourself into a home where once you get past the door, all is possible. There's no telling. Who was on the other side of this door once you get there, right? Like, I once got the bright idea when I was in college that me and the homie was going to go kick somebody's door down over. It's a long story, but it involves both money and a girl.

Right. So there's a lot to it. And my brother explained to me that what's on the other side of that door? First of all, the idea that I, well, okay, I wanted for there to be door kicking. I was not a door kicker, but I absolutely called somebody who was not only up for the task, who every day woke up hoping that somebody would call him and ask him to do something similar to kick somebody's door. Give me the dollar amount at stake. I don't need any of the details, but just give me the dollar, the retail price of whatever this conflict was about.

It was less than $20. Jesus Lord. The principality, the principality death. Okay. It was, it was lucky to be here. No, we didn't do it. We didn't do it. We didn't do it.

I realized I didn't need to do it when I called my man and was like, yo, I might need you to go with me to, don't say no more. Just show up over here and I got you. And I noticed right there. Oh, this could get out of hand really bad. So a stripper stole my class ring in college. What did she think she was going to give for that?

Weird way to start a sentence. But, and this is, and I'm not even plugging my book. I told the story in the book, but we had somebody's birthday. We had the part, like, you remember college? There was always one group of friends that lived off campus that had to jump an apartment. And that apartment was like social center. That was the pre-game an apartment. Before you went out to the club, we had the pregame apartment.

Our apartment was party central. Half the people in there wasn't on the lease. And so we had a birthday party for somebody, and somebody got a dance, or she came, she danced. End of the night, I go upstairs, and I'm going, you know, I'm like putting my watches away or whatever. And I notice I have no more watches. And then I look over there, and my little high,

and it's a high school class ring, but it's mine. It's gone. So I tell everybody, I go down to upstairs, y'all, check your shit. She got us. She got us. Everybody went upstairs, showed enough. She had worked her way from room to room, and it picked out of all. Everybody's nice little jewelry, little herring bones, whatever.

Next thing I know, we ride through Tallahassee in Frenchtown with a baseball bat looking for a man named Lucius, who's the one who booked her, who they booked it through. And then halfway through just walking down the street, you know how you catch a, glimpse of yourself like in a reflection in like the glass of somebody's car. I was like, what are we doing? We don't kill us. She got us.

It's okay. It's a high school class. And I ain't thought about it. Number one, high school class ring, one of the greatest grifts of all time in the history of the school system. But also, if you're not a killer, if you're not for real psychotic about that,

you have no place even, remotely trying to. But you know, this was late 90s, Master P, No Limit Soldier. I thought I told you, Pastor Troy, no more place. So you was, you was hype. You thought you could do it. But no, man, you got to take your ass home, man. $20, you're trying to kick a dough in? Come on, Bob. Brother, in high school, I remember this. This is the last night before I went to Atlanta for summer program, Stark College. Me and the homie railing. Shout out to a homie railing. y'all know rarely never in Houston tell him i said what's happening i think i got his number but it may not be the same i ain't talked to him in a minute right but anyway rolling with him um he rode with a couple

cats that became very famous rappers down the line and we all we we we we we northside houston right that's where we are we all the north side of houston and for those of you who are from the north side of houston or a particular part of north side of hudson you will understand where this gets to be a little bit funny we were going to and all we knew was this dude josh was throwing a pool party in Inwood. Okay? Now, it's Northside Black and Hood or Black and successful, like Black middle class?

I would say Black working class is probably more accurate. But the issue with Nwood is there are a whole bunch of permutations of Nwood, right? So like in Atlanta where people talk about like it's 50 different peace trees, yeah, but if you say peach tree, you're talking about Peachtree. Nobody's called Peachtree Industrial Peace Tree or West Peachtree If you say peace tree, you mean P Street. If you mean in Wood, anything is possible. But we get to

rolling, and this is a very 1997 sort of story, right? Because there are no cell phones. We got a couple of pagers in the crew or whatever. We ride around in an Isuzu rodeo, and we know that there's a pool party in Inwood. And as we're rolling, we're meeting more people who are also looking for this pool party in Inwood. And nobody knows exactly where the pool party is. By now, our convoy got like three-fold cars. It's some cute girls in another SUV that's rolling with us. I remember I got one of their phone numbers. It was a shame because I was moving the next day, right?

But we was just rolled around, couldn't find. We spent all night, had so much fun, not finding this pool party. Until finally, the homie, Aaron was like, let's go to that motherfucker's house. And so now two of our cars are pulling up to Josh's house. Okay. We're pulling up to Josh's house. And this is in Houston.

I want to remind you. We're all 16, 17, right? Like, this is the age range. We're out past the team curfew for Harris County. And we outside, we in the cul-de-sac, somebody's screaming. And the next thing I know, we looked up and we saw a movement in that upstairs window. And it dawned on all of us at the same time. We are in Texas.

it is late at night and we are causing good disturbance. We are not just cruising for a bruising. We are shooting to get shot. And we jumped in cars and we bailed out like Starski and Hutch.

Better go on the Waffle House and live to fight another day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We rolled out. We rolled out. We rolled out. I'm going back to the crib. You know what I'm saying? This is a this is what we did, you know? Yeah, I'm not a fighter. I am where I am now, like, I'm the type of person that I would like,

there's one comedian I'm going to do this too for sure. But like, I'm the type of person where I would create a fake company and a full digital profile and maintain it for two years and then create a LinkedIn profile and pick your resume and then interview you three times for the job and then tell you you're not going to get the job. You're going to do what camera I did to Omar Gooden. If that's not one of the weirdest beefs of 2025,

like, of all the beefs that so far this year, like, what are, what are we have right now? We have Shadour Sanders versus racism. We have, who's Cam Newton going at? Cam Newton was going at something. Oh, going to Gillian, kid. By the way. Okay.

That's 10-8 round after 10-8 round. Yeah. Yeah. That's... Ruff going to give Gilly a nine? Gilly ain't got a nine and not in a row? He is... When he hit Gilly with,

did you know that Gilly the kid had an album called Giladelfia, and I did not know that? That was a knockout punch. Cam Newton's got to be one of the most astute, but also petty. It's like he uses his point. powers for good, but then when he wants, he's like, yeah, let me go on and on just tear you down real quick just because I got the time. I didn't have Omar Gooden versus Cameron on my black people beef.

And for those of you who don't know, I don't even remember where the start of the beef comes from. It doesn't matter. Yeah, honestly, it doesn't. But Cameron cast O'Brien. cast Omar Gooding for a part in a movie and paid him $7,500. But the movie isn't real. And Omar traveled. To do it.

Yeah, and travel for a movie that isn't real and then made him, I got him to sign a waiver of sorts and put the movie on a vote or something like that. Like apparently it's just sort of these awful movies. They shot the scenes. Yeah. Yes. I, he shot scenes for a few. film that wasn't real that was never going to come out.

The only part of the beef, and granted, this is Cameron. He doesn't have borders or, like, he leaves you alone and then he goes all the way to, he don't take it to 10, he takes it to 12, right? The only part of that beef, I was like,

eh, you put the man's raid out there. Yeah. Now you're, you're messing with his ability to feed his family going forward. because please believe Hollywood is paying attention to that part of the beef.

They're locked in on that part. And like, they'll do that. Because like the way it works in entertainment, like your quote is your quote. So once you work lower than, you can never work for less than what you were paid to do the same role, like the same credit,

like guest star supporting actor, like whatever, right? So if Cameron paid him less than this rate, and I don't know Omar's regular rate, but if Cameron paid him less his rate and then put out there what his rate was, then the next person to hire Omar. If they want, they can play hardball with him.

And Omar Goodman's got a, what, a 30-year resume around this bitch? So he probably can stand tall and get the money he's supposed to get. But when you put out what the paid demand, like, that was the part. I was left with. That's Rick Ross 50-cent baby mama sex tape land. Yeah. I was left. Let's keep it man to man.

I was left to say, I'm glad, I'm glad that man likes me. Right? Like, I'm like, I said after the country drink thing, I'm glad my ops can't wrap. And I'm glad me and Cam is cool. I got a lot of the dipset, man. You know they used to put my pranks on some of these mixtapes. Yeah, I have to, I have to admit, like, you doing pranks, that is, that seems right up the particular. of those guys.

I was going to refer Okay. I'm trying to figure out how to say this so it can't get chopped up and aggregated. But I was going to say that is the particular

like alley of asshole that would be theirs, but then I thought about what an asshole alley could be, you know what? We're going to come right back

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We were close, but not close enough to catch up. And you had said, and another homie we got in the group chat, that y'all was going to be in Scotland. Or he said he was going to be in Scotland. And then I knew you were going to be in one of the lands. You know what I'm saying? I was going to be in London, couldn't get it together. But then after you had decided to make,

while you was over there, black people in America found out it was black people in Scotland. Bro, I land. I land on Saturday. in Edinburgh Edinburgh Pardon me That's how they say it

Correct Yeah Edinburgh You know they like to It's like they work They work in them people from Louisville I was about to say That's the Antigua Yeah

Yeah that's the Antigua Yeah Yeah it's the same So I land in Edinburgh On Saturday And it's already bubbling up That you know You got one brother

His name of his Twitter Starboy Fitness but they call them Sterling K. Bruin or whatever. It's a dude who looked like Sterling K. Brown who sounds Scottish and it's confusing black folks because black Americans, we get weirded out over any type of accent. And so when you look like me but sound different, so there's a novelty to it. So I was over there for a TV festival.

I have my son. We have an itinerary. We have things and activities lined up to do. and the second day they're viral and I'm just thinking to myself, bro. I'm like, I'm over here and I think I want to talk to one of these Negroes. I think that would be the right thing to,

because folks in the comments were asking these folks, the black Scots, a million, excuse me, the black Brits who live in Scotland. We'll talk about that in a second. They were asking him a million, questions and I was like this might be a fun just why not go talk to people so I make a video

throw it kite up say hey I'm here if you want to talk to me DMs get flip now mind you I'm somebody who really don't use TikTok on a regular basis I check my TikTok like twice a week I'm not on it every day like IG and Twitter and all of that right oh so you're an occasional crack smoker not no more

that shit is good Not no more. I've been on TikTok every day for the last week and a half. So I started getting hit up by all these different folks. And it turns out one of my had already followed.

So I'd start shooting DMs. And they were like, yeah, and I didn't want to just talk to dudes. I wanted to talk to some women too. So next thing I know, I have an itinerary of interviews to go and do. And my man, Starboy,

he lives over in Glasgow. So I had to take a car out that way. to go and interview him and then just started lining up all these interviews, man, and then I just put them all together into one little thing and put it out. And you know, I've been trying to work on some sort of talk show project for the last two months anyway. So this kind of fell in line with what I'm trying to ideate. You know, as much as I love CNN, I just don't trust media.

You know, media can pivot on you in a heartbeat. So I just want to make sure I got a 1B situation as well. But it was dope talking to him. learned a lot. Also, I was very leery about putting this stuff out, man, because, you know, you started getting into diaspora conversations. It got a little dicey in the comments because, you know, it also starts this conversation about the black American experience versus as being a first-generation immigrant natively born in a country that's not yours.

You know what I'm saying? And so I still think there's some merit to, if you are melanated and you are born in a non-melanated place and you are raised in a non-melanated place, there has to be something unique to your experience. And I was curious about it. So that's what I went over there and just talk to folks about. I think once you start getting into, okay, you're from Ghana,

Your parents are from Ghana but moved here and you were born here. Well, you need to go back to Ghana and experience being Ghana and this Scottish stuff is not who you are. If you're 35 with two kids and a Scottish wife, there's something different about you than someone native to Ghana that grew up in Ghana and got five, six generations. But I do think it was a real interesting conversation with these folks just about how our culture. how black culture spreads across the globe and the sense of identity and individuality that you may feel in a place that foreign and the kinship you might feel with black Americans.

And this is the wild shit, bro, is that they get all of the black culture but are taught none of the black history. Black American, they get black American culture, but they aren't taught any black American history. I'm not saying they necessarily should, We are not taught any of the stuff over there. But I do find it interesting that black American history is suppressed in a lot of international school systems.

And I think part of that is because they don't want people over there to see and know what it's actually possible and what you're capable of becoming. You know, I don't know. I think it's all unique to whatever the level of racism is in that particular country. But I'm happy I did it. I just didn't eat no food. Everybody was trying to get me to do food, and I was trying to tell black folks in the comments, I'm not Keith Lee, man.

I'm not, in my opinion of this food, it's not gonna change your restaurant and you gonna have a line around the door, man. I eat like trash, you see my physique. Brother, I was not about to say, you're looking at it the wrong way. You saying you see my physique, therefore my opinion don't matter,

and they are looking at it. you like that man look like he know what he talk about don't nobody let me tell you man they ain't about they ain't about to let me go around ain't like if i go over there to scotland ain't nobody going to be hitting me like yo man you got to tell us what the food is like they ain't going to be like yo so did you eat over there no it is interesting to see how black americans perceive you though because like nobody was like telling me to like go to the clubs and none of they were like ask them questions about the middle passages i'm like god damn like no the street interviews that's a sit-down count

question. So I just want to say this, right? I had not considered Black Scots. I don't have a great handle like all that stuff over there that ain't England. Right? If it's not London, it's kind of all the same to me. Okay.

You know, it's the, you know, okay, keep going, keep going. There's a United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales, which is a theory to me. I don't know shit about not know whales and then Northern Ireland. And I guess it makes sense. It would be some black people in Scotland.

It never dawned on me that per this Google search, there is 65,000 black people in Scotland. Like, I don't know exactly how they are distributed, but I figured that, yes, there would be black people in Scotland, but they would all be dating white women, not necessarily because they love white women, but just because by the time you got to the 11th grade, you had dated all the black girls.

And either you was going to be married you had to branch out. Yeah, less than 100,000 black folks in a country with 5.5 million people total. So you probably ain't got a lot of options. And most of the black folks are in the major city, so they're not spread out in the high island somewhere. There's, that was the other thing was the idea of people get,

people who know about black scots, getting mad at dumb Americans for realizing that it was, black scots were actually a thing. Because there's, I mean, I think here's the thing we really deal with on the internet that I think is fucked up is that people who already know something get mad at people who are just discovering the thing that they already. Right. And somehow, because I just now found out about it, rather than celebrate the fact that I'm finally on your intellectual level, you will shame and cuss me out and call me dumb. When you know for a fact, I wasn't taught none of that shit. And the whole UK, Great Britain, England,

if I went on the street right now, Jordan Klepper style, and I ask people, what is Great Britain, what is England, and what is the UK? 8, 70% of them people are going to think all three of them countries are the same.

I thought it for a long time, because you're just not taught this whole European Union. Like, maybe you were, or maybe you were. But not everybody. I went to Alabama, Birmingham public schools.

We was too busy learning the second verse to lift every voice and sing. So pardon me if I thought Ireland was still in the UK. It's not. Ireland did in the 1920s. The UK to me feels like if it was a country

that was New York, Connecticut, and Rhode Island. There is definitely what a thing. these that is carrying the rest of you. But if you go there

and you tell somebody from Rhode Island that you think they're from New York, so in college, so if I am you, to us, most Southerers, if you lived at this time, I don't think it's the same now,

but at the time, in the eyes of most Souther's who were just learning about the East Coast and East Coast culture, if you lived D.C. or North, You were from New York I'm from New York. I don't have time to separate you into Phillies and jerk

But when you meet somebody from Philly And you say you New York, man, I'm tired of you, New York, Infuriated Don't you dare, don't you ever call me no New York You're wearing a bubble vest with no sleeves, big dog New York And low key, some of them boys from North Carolina but where the high top Thames

because they thought they was DMX? New York. You're a New York nigga that lived down south. Yeah, like the idea that Philly and New York, I knew they were different places, but I didn't think they were different things. Does that make sense? Right?

Yes. Like, it just, it all seemed. And look, I ain't feel so bad about it because they damn show was doing the same thing to us. Yeah, but when you go over there, oh, my God. Birmingham is Mississippi. is Tennessee. The only cities they had real respect for was Miami and New Orleans in those days, because they were still with, Atlanta wasn't fully embraced yet by New York culture, not in the

mid-90s. You couldn't wrap your head around the fact that Atlanta was a culturally different place, and then they finally had to accept it. The thing I really learned from over there, though, is that there's such a cultural difference, much like the East Coast, to all of those places over there, that there is something interesting about being melanated over there. And I'm using the word melanated specifically because I also discovered on this journey that I don't think as black folks across the globe, I don't think we have a cohesive agreement on what blackness is. And I think that my conversations with some of these Scottish people,

people were interpreted as me trying to process them solely based on black and comparing them to black Americans. But it's just more of a, hey, it's not a lot of you over here. What's it like for you here? And just starting from that question and just letting the conversation go where it may. They do understand that they hilarious, objectively speaking, right? Like I was in London and I met a black woman and she sounds just like me, You understand what I'm saying? Like, I guess that ain't funny over there, but that is a hoot

in this house. As a southerner who's been asked by northerners to repeat words so they can laugh at me, I try not to just chuckle at people's No, no, no, no, no, no. We talk about two different things, though.

We talk about two different things, though. Because them northerners, because them northerners are judging you, right? What I am speaking to is the phenomenon of cognitive dissonance, which is something completely different, right? Like what I don't have the sophisticated ear for as it stands right now is

what is the English version of a black scent. Again, I assume that that, like Mick Jagger and them did their best, but when they try to sound like black people, they sound like Americans, I'd be listening to that England rap and I don't know what I'm supposed to do with that, but they don't, look, all I know is that when

that black man started sound like I can't even say Rottie Riding Piper because he ain't even really Scotch. You know what I'm saying? But when that black man sounded like he had a kilt on, you have to understand, brother. That's a, it's kind of like you haven't met an English for Louisiana.

It's jarring for a minute. Oh, bro, we had so many Asians with Birmingham accents. Yes. Growing up. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Or my favorite phenomenon. the Chinese Jamaican.

I still have not seen this. People keep talking about this. There was also some Black Russians that were coming up in the TikTok comments. I might go to, they were telling me to go to Russia. I was like, I'll talk to the Black Italians or something like that.

I can be a Native. I ain't going to Russia. I ain't going to Russia. The block hot right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Paul. Shout out to Paul Robson. Don't get me wrong.

But I ain't going. Because I know y'all ain't coming to get me. You're barely when to get Britney and she's good at basketball. I don't do sure. Yeah, last thing I need is Putin finding out that I'm trying to get all the black people together. They might think it's the revolution.

You need to go talk to them black people in Moscow. You go. No, not only that. Clearly, they don't want to talk to me. Like, I just don't feel like you go to Moscow because you want to hang out with the other black people. I mean, if you're black and born in Moscow, that's not your fault.

That's just where you are, them your people. That's what I'm saying. Somebody got you there in the first place is what I'm saying. That's all I'm. Nigger, meet me in Brussels. Yes. I'm not going to Moscow.

No. That's all I'm saying. But the other interesting thing is that you learn the differences in the accents as well. There is a difference to the Scottish, like to the naked ear, if you haven't heard either enough. But being over there for just a week, that Scottish accent versus the English, like a London accent. I'm not even talking about the countryside of England or whatever. Like, I feel like British, oh, that's the other thing. Because it's all Great Britain, technically you're all Black Brits,

whether you're in Wales, Northern Ireland, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then within that, you're Scottish. Does that make sense? So the way we've been using Black Brits as Americans is technically wrong. because we associate black bread to just England. More specifically, just London. Because we also thought Great Britain was fucking England because that's what you told us in the Olympics.

Yes. We have an athlete with Great Britain on their chest. And we go, okay, well, that must be... It's like Russia versus USSR. Okay, your Olympic name is a different name from your slang name. Yes. we know you're forward.

And by the way, so that people understand the difference. It's important. Great Britain is that island, right? That island is Great Britain. So Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom, but it is not British because it is on Ireland, the island of Ireland, and it's a lot of beef going on over there. See, and that's where I just check out, because I'm just like, y'all are from over there. It's like when you get into like, Hawaiians and Simone.

They do that. They do that. Can they do that. When am I going to have time during the day to learn all of this shit that you all are trying to get me to learn? I'm saying this, brother, you ain't got to learn it. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, personally, I'm not trying to scrap it out with the Samoans just because I'm lazy, right? Like, I don't know who feels exactly what at what point.

I respect all of it, but I have not taken the proper time that I should to my, understand the nuanced differences between country and culture when it comes to anything, Hawaiian, Polynesian, Samoan, Hocadans. Polynesian, Polynesian, right there we go. I don't even know if that's the right word. I might be using the wrong word right now. You don't know. Look, Polynesian is to catch all that works, even though I'd be looking at a lot of them

boys' hair, and I know that if they grew up anywhere around me, they wouldn't be calling them no Polynesians. that boy two of a Polynesian on to talk about this shit I'm not fin to get into it with them Polynesians because they'll show up and hawk a dance at my live show. CCC, now you're making the worst. Now you're making it worse.

You can't perform through no, you can't perform through one. That dance is loud. You can't over talk that. Look on their face. When they get to doing that, I'm like, yo, man, you know, they'd be talking about scaring the girls.

The girls are scaring me. But yeah, it was interesting in just learning all right, there's much more to be learned about the culture of being, you know, we are the global majority. I also try to be very careful about that minority word. It's just you're a minority fear. Yeah, I don't use it.

Globally, we're number one. Ra, rah, rah. But I learned a lot. I'm going to do it again. I'm supposed to go to, I got my book right here. I'm supposed to go to London in December. the show dates aren't public at and then I'm supposed to go to

Netherlands that should be interesting too Oh yeah I just got back I just got back from both of those Yeah but I heard that Scottish accent You know what it is The Scottish accent hits

The ones I heard Hit them front syllables harder Uh huh Whereas the British accent It's very soft And Shado Sanders It's now Oh yeah you know

No no they are not the same Chodore Sanders is the third string quarterback. Yes, that is it. But now you sounded like a Scottish Nigerian right there. But it is a very important thing that the British accent in different dialects. It's like it's almost like speaking French in that you take off the last consonant. Right? It's better to do the thing you said you were going.

You know, like you leave off that joy. Like I was peeping a lot of that game when I was over there. there on that. I want to get one thing because I know you got to go in a second, but I need to ask this before we go. And honestly, I may not be able to because it could go so far. I was going to ask you about Shadoor Saddus. You and I agree on a very important point, which is we try to describe good deceit from making to the Cleveland Browns. However, I feel like our people are in full all conspiracy mode, which is putting me in many cases in the position of being the person, not so much defending the white people, but saying I don't necessarily think they'd

bad and I don't like how this neighborhood feels. I don't think that they are putting Shudor in the best possible situations to show what he can do, but also it is the Browns. Deshawn Watson is guaranteed every penny. These are the Browns. They had Julio Jones and now they don't. These are the Browns, bro.

It's a history of bad decisions as a franchise. And so I just think this is just another log on the dysfunctional fire of that organization. I think that ultimately, you know, what happens when Deshawn Watson comes back? That's the other question that nobody's talking about. Was it 230? look here.

230 meal guarantee? Like, does he suit up again? I just hope you get some garbage time situations early in the season, which your door can get in and get some reps. But he's the third stringer. They're not going to give him, you're not going to get a lot of reps.

In their rule, like, once the third string is in, you can't even go back to the other. That's if you are, like, the emergency quarterback. But you are, look, man, I have seen this point made, and I think that this is an important one. And I'm curious, your thoughts. The number one pick in the draft this year was a black dude who started off as a zero-star recruit,

went to incarnate word, and then took his black ass to Washington State before getting to Miami, making himself the number one overall pick, and he looks pretty good. And people who could easily be supporting him in that, which is an actual sports story, are instead leading on the reality television element that is Shador Sanders. And that is not Shador's fault. But I do think it is a bad look for people who say that they are sports fans to, like, not let your own. Like when Nike put the commercial lot, would do the advertisement out after the first

preseason game. I'm like, come on, baby. We're not even talking about sports no more. Yeah, I mean, that's culture. That's selling ads. That's what Nike's going to do. But Nike always sold winners. They have, they, they, ain't, you ain't going to find too many examples that Nike's doing

commercials for a dude that kind of sort of might not make a team. But Shadour is selling perseverance. So in spite of falling to the fifth pick What is he? What is he persevered? Perceived the fuck shit of falling all the way down to the fifth round when y'all said I should have been going higher. That's what we call the perseverance now.

Is that not the league having a thumb on your neck? Just a little bit? Just a little bit. So he's not swimming upstream at all. Shadour ain't swimming upstream at all. That does not count as swimming upstream. Perseverance. Is he doing it?

doing it with a tour of Laybrook. No, that is not, that is not swimming. The zero star recruit, that boy swam upstream. His daddy didn't coach the team. If you don't, she don't put up numbers. Now, wait a minute. Now, we're not going to act like Shadoobu's throwing 48 picks. No, I'm not acting like he put up 48 picks.

What was his win percentage of Colorado? It was like 600%, right? It wasn't terrible. I'm just saying. He wasn't Tim Tebow with it. What he did was not swim upstream. That's all I'm saying. I am saying that this man has taken a few licks that were probably undeserved.

I don't know if it's enough to wholly go racism. I think it's definitely you trying to teach the, well, no, that is racism because it'd be black folks that be here. Let me ask you, let me ask you a question. But this isn't go marching the street, make a sign in front of the Brown Stadium. I'm not going to put on a blue vest like D-ray. Right. go down to Cleveland. Roy, tell me this, man.

You're telling me that boy has not looked like a fifth round pick because he's looked like a fifth round pick. I wouldn't know because they don't play him enough, but money. So I don't have enough information. Which is another way of saying he looked like a fifth round pick. He didn't look like a fifth round pick when he threw them two touchdowns.

When he threw them two touchdowns, they were like, oh, well, let's see what he does next week. Let's see what he does. How many other fifth round picks? How many other fifth round picks was y'all going, hmm, can't wait to see what happens next week? It's because you believe something's there. Now, he's got to have an opportunity to prove or disprove it.

I'm just saying he hasn't been given that yet. And part of why he hasn't been given it is because it's the Browns. And you have to, that slides the racism tivity of it back to the middle for me. There. Holes your door out here. You're playing with one arm while everybody else got two. I'm not saying he's Rudy. But when does he get a chance now to, like, okay, you're the Browns, you to coach now.

So when does, when does, when does, when does, when does, when does, when does Shadour, because now, well, well, he just moved up on the, on the, the draft, on the, the, the, the draft, the, the, the debt chart on Tuesday because the Browns traded, Kenny Pickett. So now it's only three left. And so what that means is Joe Flacco. Dylan Gabriel and Shadour. Joe Flacko going to start the season. His old ass, if he don't break his hip, it's just going to be sorry. And then Dylan Gabriel going to move up. And then at some point, Chador is going to get his opportunity.

Everybody needs to realize that. Don't you worry. He's going to get his chance for the exact reason you said because it's the Browns and they're sorry. Shadour is going to come in. What's the O-Line situation in Cleveland? That's also another question. Because sometimes y'all don't be judging folks, you know, unfairly off of that too. This is what everybody.

And then y'all going to say we're making excuses for Shadour. Because you are. And this is the key. Why do we make that excuse for Tua? Tua was getting his ass knocked out. Yeah. I'm a Dolphin's fan. That old line was not protecting that boy.

That was one of the first things they had to start drafting up. Yeah. Do we get to make that excuse for Shadour down the road when he gets back? This is a football adage to take for you forever in the statistics Let's bear this out, and this is very important. Sacks are a quarterback stat. Getting the ball out is the responsibility of the quarterback. Them sacks, that boy was taking over the weekend.

Those were not the fault of the offensive line. They wouldn't good. He wouldn't know better than nil. I think it's the point that people are not catching. But they're like, he's not getting out there with the good offensive line. The offensive line is like, we ain't out there with the good quarterback. What you got now? We will never know.

If all that boy got is a two Mississippi to throw the ball every time, then all we doing is running short, quick release routes. That's fine. When does he get a five Mississippi, Bo? Throw those. The problem is he doesn't throw those. If all you got is two steps and throw is two steps and throw. Shadu was eight for nine with 22 yards.

That ain't enough to get it done in this league. I'll tell you that much. Oh, my gosh. That's all they'll say. I didn't expect that the homie was going to be one of them. I thought we was going to be laughing at people like you. I'm saying that. We are in an endless, we will never be able to make an excuse for Shador.

It has to be Bugs Bunny, one versus 11, throw 500 yards for four TDs, and then folks will go maybe. I'm saying we have not had, he has not had an opportunity to be, to suck long enough, consistently enough for you to have the stance that you have. That's what I'm saying. Give him more time to be trash. If he's at trash, it'll be reversed. revealed, but he won't get that time because it's the Browns. I'm telling you, because it's the Browns, he will get that chance because everybody else is whacked.

So they're going to cycle through all of them dudes. That's what I keep trying to say. Nobody's good enough to keep the job. They're going to cycle through. He's going to get out there. And I wish him the best when he do. I just don't think that we're doing no favors to this dude by acting like the world is up against him. I agree with that.

Because when you rally around him, then you're giving white folks in white America something to push back against, and then they create, it creates more tension. It just makes his life a little bit more hard. I wish we could just ease back and let the boy play football.

But, you know, I'm trying to help everybody out right now. Pace y'all cells, brother. That's all I'm saying. Everybody pays themselves. You're right. Don't go out in front of the Browns facility just yet, especially not in these times, brother,

because it'll be some counter forces that show up now. Good gracious. Y'all going to go out that motherfucker an ice pull up. Hey, not everybody's afraid of ice. I'm going to just say that. I mean,

not if you saw that picture of a Superman, uh, doing the ice obstacle, of course. I ain't fooling with ice. I know they're coming for black people eventually. I'm buying me a military uniform. That's almost starting to do it.

It's just dressed like a military. You won't even buy me. Hey, let me tell you what black people are worried about ice. Um, it is, It is the native African population of Harlem USA, brother. They'll be out there on a 16th street like they used to. Oh, Lord. No, sir.

Somebody put the word out in French. Y'all need to lay low. You all need to chill. We'll see what you're doing, man. Let's circle back on this round week seven. Like I said, after the trade. I think he's going to get his chance to play. I think he will.

And then we're going to go from there. and while you say that he has not been given excuses, that's amazing because I see sure, sure I see so many people making them. They are in mass production. They are rolling off that assembly line, quick and fast. But again, it is not helpful circumstances for anybody. Can't throw if you can't, I can't throw if you can't block.

That's all I'm saying. But the job of the quarterback is to get the ball out your hand. Well, then we need to create a stat, then, damn it. We need to create a stat for when you don't do, the block when you missed the block. Roy, whatever the opposite of a pancake is. Roy, go look at the clock. Ain't nobody holding the ball longer than him.

It was the same as in college and his same having it in the preseason. All I'm saying is somebody blocking for you to hold the ball that long. I never thought this would be the topic that we would. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. I know. I thought more of you too.

You know what I'm saying? Like we was, like, you got me out here. Now, I was trying to ruminate with you would be like, yo man, you just got an opinion and then next thing you know you against the black people and now people act like

like you some kind of sellout and you were like, yeah, sellout. That's right. I bet it is tough. It ain't tough over here. Me and the homies is over here playing Dominoes

getting ready for you doing next game while you over there playing backgammon, I don't know, you know. Damn shame. Damn shame, man. It's Roy Wood Jr. I appreciate you, man.

I appreciate you. Yeah, man, this, we, me, I still got you, you still got me. So defend me when you go back to the meeting and, you know, they start asking them questions about me. You go back and let them know, I'm still down. I just, I'm my own man. That's the first thing I'm asking them black Russians about when I get over there is whether not they like you.

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