The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Selection Sunday Reactions, Rick Pitino's Legacy, Bill Belichick's GF, and the Bengals FA Moves | 3.17
Episode Date: March 17, 2025On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones reacts to Selection Sunday and the latest NFL free agency news. Bo starts the show by joking about Bill Belichick taking a photo on the beach with hi...s much younger girlfriend and if she is the one calling the shots in his life lately. (0:53) Bo moves onto the NCAA Tourney by criticizing Rutgers for not making the tournament (6:22) and saying why Rick Pitino is one of the greatest coaches he's ever seen. (7:45) Next, Bo questions why the New York Giants would be interested in Jameis Winston (19:40) and if the Cincinnati Bengals re-signing Ja'Marr Chase & Tee Higgins makes them any better as a team? (25:32) And finally, we have another round of If You Haven't Heard stories involving the cost of owning chickens to make eggs, the rise of Zyn in America and why teens are no longer getting into relationships. (37:29) Then Bomani listens to some voicemails about having ultra-competitive parents. (50:42) If You Haven't Heard Contributors: Carrie Battan, Staff Writer at The New Yorker: “Zyn and the New Nicotine Gold Rush” https://bit.ly/41VWEmu Faith Hill, Staff Writer at The Atlantic: “Teens Are Forgoing a Classic Rite of Passage” https://bit.ly/41UK1YT Tove Danovich, Journalist and Author: “The Real Cost of Backyard Eggs” https://bit.ly/41wX2rK . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Support the Show: Discover faster, more reliable search with Perplexity today. Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at perplexity.com! https://pplx.ai/bomani-jones When any player scores 50 or more points in a game, DashPass members save 50% on an order, up to $10 off. Use promo code NBA50 to redeem. See further terms and conditions at https://drd.sh/8ONpZP/ Go to zbiotics.com/BOMANI to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use BOMANI at checkout. Celebrate the progress you’ve already made. Visit BetterHelp.com/BOMANI today to get 10% off your first month. Find out why more than 2.5M small businesses use LinkedIn for hiring today! Find your next great hire on LinkedIn. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/BOMANI. Terms and conditions apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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We got some fascinating NFL news coming up a little bit later.
You may not have seen us to stick around.
But in the meantime, March Madness is here.
And I'm going to show you the living day.
definition of March Madness, Sean, if you could put it on the screen right fast,
for those of you who are listening to this as an audio podcast, that is March Madness.
And what is March Madness? Some of you on the YouTube may be looking from a distance and you're
asking yourselves, what is that picture? I don't understand what it is. It is Bill Belichick
layer on his back in what they call in yoga, the waterfall pose. So he on his back and he got
his legs up at a 90 degree angle. And what is sitting a tally?
top his assuredly disgusting feet, his little PYT. And she got her arms out like almost like Superman,
except her arms are going backward. And you look at the picture and you can just hear one or
both of them saying, what in the Sam Hill is going on with this man? Sean, I need to see your
face because I need to see somebody's face. Because I can't, a friend of mine saw that. It was like,
yes, I do this with my two-year-old niece. It's, it's clearly a,
move for kids and then you just have to remind yourself that he is dating a kid.
He is so open.
I like, you know what it's like when you get your friend and they wide open?
It's wild when you see the wide open.
It's somebody you don't even know.
I went somewhere in New Orleans.
I don't remember if I told you this, but I went to an event and Belichick pulled up
with her.
And he got that look on his face like, look at what I'm doing.
Did you see the other thing too where he sent an email?
Because, you know, I don't remember who put this out, but all his emails are public at this
because he works for a state institution.
And so he said to email to a woman named Robbie Pickerel,
who used to work at the news and observer.
He said they started at the press box at games.
And I think she got a job at Carolina.
And I can't remember what she asked him for.
But he replied,
hey, could you copy Jordan on all the emails that you send to me?
Well, everything I've heard of people who know about this is like,
she's gone full.
I'm running his social media.
I'm pretty much his manager, agent now.
And it's like, yeah, like, are you dating her for this reason?
You started dating her and this happened, you know?
I will say this for Bill Belichick.
He is in a relatable position except for the fact that he's going forward.
You know what I mean?
Right?
I don't know where along the way that he concluded that this was the better move for him,
that this was the easiest thing for him to do.
All I'm saying is, and if you can put that picture back up on the screen
one more time for him, and we'll talk about more important things after this.
But this is the part of this picture that I don't think we're talking about enough.
it is one thing that he did this.
It's one thing that he laid it on his back for this picture.
It's another thing that he balanced her on it.
It's another thing that she was down forward.
I'm assuming that it was her idea.
All of these things, okay?
My question is this.
While the camera was being set up to do this,
what is going through his mind?
Right?
Because at first, Shaw, my question was,
who was taking the picture?
but I'm looking at it from that angle and it feels like it was set up or like some variety of tripod
and that there was a timer element to this.
Yeah, she, you know, she's definitely a TikToker girl.
She's like that age.
So I'm pretty sure she either placed her phone on a bag or has a tripod for all those, like,
videos they're doing.
Like the second we see Bill Belichick doing like a TikTok dance trend, you know it's over.
Yes.
But like, I'm assuming it was her idea to take the picture, right?
I'm assuming it was her idea to post the picture, which, like, what are her friends think about this?
Do you think they be hanging with them?
Like, do she even see her friends anymore?
Because look, it's hard enough for them two to figure out what they're going to do together.
Then you want to introduce more of them into the equation.
There's no way, like, the friend groups can align, right?
Like, I'm almost thinking like they've both siloed each other off from each other's lives before they started dating.
and now they're in this new thing.
Let me ask this question.
You think she might got a friend for, well, he's married, but just as a hypothetical.
Matt Patricia, perhaps?
I mean, yeah, she could sell it really well, I think.
Yeah, let me see.
Joe Judge, Joe Judge, Joe Judge got a woman?
Let's find out.
Like, this is where this is going.
This has to be it.
Ah, damn, Joe and his wife got four kids.
In fact, this is supposed to really go mess it up with Belichet.
Okay, none of the homies.
come hang out with him now.
If you're married with kids, you're not bringing the kids to hang out with Belichick's
girlfriend and her friends.
I just can't.
This is just so wild, right?
Like, I don't even intend to be gossipy about it.
I am just amazed that this dude who holds on to everything like a case secret in such a way,
like she has rocked his world.
Like, young girls apparently are like dope, right?
They apparently, they seem not just like specifically like dope.
They seem like what they said, that Sillosibin is opening new neural pathways.
This man, this man approaching life in ways that he had never considered.
He is tripping balls off of Jordan.
That is, wow, wow, that's where he is.
Anyway, there's the other March Madness, basketball tournaments, two March Madnesses.
The men's tournament, I have to be perfectly honest with you guys, I'm going to turn on the men's tournament.
And it's going to be like watching the Olympics.
but not like watching basketball at the Olympics.
But, like, watching the sports you don't know nothing about during the Olympics,
and then you just find out who's good.
Like, thank goodness they put numbers by the seeds.
Otherwise, I have no idea.
I know nothing.
The only thing I do know is that somehow Rutgers has two of the top three picks in the draft, Sean,
Dillon Harper and Ace Bailey, and they are nowhere to be found in this tournament.
Yeah, pretty crazy that Rutgers is like doing what,
I mean, St. John's is doing what people thought Rutgers would be doing this year in that conference.
Well, except don't forget, Rutgers is not in that conference anymore.
Exactly. That's right. That's right. That's right. Again, crazy talk. Not your fault.
But I was thinking about that with Rutgers. Either Bailey Harper or they coach, whoever he is,
one of y'all ain't as good as they say. Exactly. At least. Exactly.
What of y'all has to be worse. And I don't even know what they say they coach is.
But one of y'all can't be as good as they say. If two of them are supposed to be,
potential top five picks and they're not sniffing the tournament? To your point, it is insane.
And maybe it is the coach's fault. Somebody's not what I'm told they are. And all I know about
the coach is that he's a coach. And it is possible that he is not that. But anyway, this is,
it's just a different time and era of college basketball. Like the St. John's thing is a very
interesting thing. Rick Petino, some of you may not know this, Rick Petino is now coaching at
St. Johns, and St. Johns is really good. They are a number two seed. They won the Big East tournament.
And whatever it is that you may want to say about Rick Petino, he is probably the best X&O
college basketball coach who has ever lived. He is certainly the best X&O college basketball
coach that I have ever seen, right? Like Larry Brown is this interesting hybrid of the two.
But for Patino, watching the evolution of Rick Patino's teams and winning a national
championship and going to a final four with those teams in Louisville from 2012 and 2013.
I don't know how to hell.
He managed to pull that off, right?
He is that guy.
Of course, he is a little off-putting.
He lacks a great deal of self-awareness and wound up in two completely different but
hilarious, three different, hilarious scandals, perhaps equally.
There is the scandal.
Well, let's not go to the, what order should I say these scandals in?
Okay.
there is the scandal of them at Louisville using strippers to recruit players,
which is not that uncommon.
Honestly, I think it's just a little different that they was bringing them to the dorm,
and it was the dorm that was named after Rick Petino's brother-in-law
that they named the dorm after who died in 9-11.
It was a little shaky.
I don't even know Rick Petino knew about that, to be perfectly honest.
Tough, tough all around.
Yeah, yeah, but it's a lot.
It was a bad break, right?
bad breaks there. Then, of course, there is the scandal where you guys know where, you know,
he took a little thing to the, to the very nice Italian restaurant in Louisville. And in a span of about
10 seconds and so, he made some things happen with this woman while his man's was in the next booth.
Just making sure that everything was going okay. And then that woman tried to extort somebody.
he sent his homeboy to meet her and his home boy wound up marrying or yeah it was a lot it was a
lot it was uncomfortable but he survived that but then he got caught up um i think it was like a 25
thousand dollar payment to a player named brian bowen um and that was what ultimately got him fired
which is crazy to think about now that 25 000 going toward a player could get anybody fired
in this day and age if louisville got fired for 25 000 offer to a player's because they ain't
offer his ass enough and that's beneath the standards of the institution game done change so anyway
patino is now there at st john's and i imagine that if you are under the age of 35 maybe even 40 to be
honest you have no concept of st john's being like legitimately good you may have seen them be good
once or twice but they mattered like and they mattered in a very important way also they were
New York City's college basketball team.
Like at a time where I feel like high school and college basketball meant something different
in this city than it does now, they were that squad.
They meant that.
And now Patino was back and they're really good.
And this makes a lot of different people ask the question about whether or not you
should have just pinch your nose and hired Rick Patino.
I know my buddy Gary Parrish at CBS has made the point that that is what UCLA should have
done instead of hiring mid-Croney.
just going ahead and hire Rick Petino.
I get it.
My guy Charlie Kravitz on the Dominique Foxworth show,
he says the same thing about Georgetown.
Okay, I get it, except the problem is this, or this is the thing.
This only works with Rick Petino if you win a lot.
Otherwise, you're miserable.
And so I know my buddy Charlie used the word pious to describe Georgetown
and not hire Rick Patino, but I don't think that's what it was.
I mean, piety may have had something to do with it,
but I think it really came down to the fact
that they weren't desperate enough to hire Rick Petino
because that was what you needed to be.
And look, he did the thing, right?
Like he went back and earned his keeping
when it worked at I owner for a couple of years
to try to get it going.
I just feel like Rick being the coach
is really only going to be fun if you actually win the whole thing
and there are typically but so many programs
that are truly capable of actually winning the whole thing.
However, for this one tournament that we have,
getting him back here, that'll work.
we'll take it. Sean, I think it's also of note, given the dynamics, that this means that
Duke, Cooper Flagg, Cooper Flagg is the story of the tournament? Yeah, I know. I know Cooper Flagg's
a little hurt, and they're still, what, they're the number two overall seed behind Auburn,
so the hype is still there for Duke. But yeah, between that and, you know, everyone's talking
about the potential for Coach Calipari, you know.
I want to play against Kentucky.
It could play as Kentucky in the second round, like, things like that.
But, yeah, there aren't really many big stories.
And, you know, real quick on the Patino thing, I think it should be a more bigger story
is I just searched him on perplexity.
This is the first outright Big East regular season title in 40 years for St. John's,
which is like, it should be, I think, talked about more.
but I guess to your point, like, you know, an 182 home record is insane.
But yeah, like, do they have to win it for it to be a big deal?
Yeah, it's also, it's not the same Big East.
Like, it's a whole number of things that go on.
But to put into perspective what that 40 years is, okay, do you know where the,
they made the Final Four that year?
Three Big East teams made the Final Four, Villanova B, Georgetown, and the championship game.
Do you know where that Final Four game was played?
Rupp Arena in Lexington, Kentucky.
Right.
They were still having final fours.
Forget about that it wasn't an adult.
Insane to think about it.
Like this was in a legitimate college arena.
I'm pretty sure of this.
It was the first year of the open tournament
and it was the last year before the shot clock.
That long.
That long.
That's where they are.
But these things don't mean the same thing that like,
look, what's happened is this.
And this isn't the fault of the sports necessarily.
But we have become like,
Canada, but Canada is to hockey.
We are one sport country.
We football, and then everything else kind of shakes out.
I realized that when I watched the Lakers and the Phoenix Suns play the other day,
and I was like, wow, it's been a while since I've seen the Suns.
Let me check them out.
Man, let me tell you something.
I was talking about Buddy about this, and he uses this term to describe teams like the
Sons.
They got three Supermax guys, and the rest of that roster is a who's who or who.
I don't know who to hell.
They were just calling out last names.
I'm like, yo, you got to tell me a little bit more.
The amount of people I saw tweeting, because I didn't check out the game, but people were like,
I don't think I can watch the Suns anymore.
It was just a flat out like they're hard to watch.
Man, and Boonehouser and Durant got into it right fast.
Like, it was a lot there.
But to the Cooper Flag thing, I'm curious how many people have watched Cooper Flag play this year.
It's going to be interesting.
He's got this ankle injury.
I figure he'll be fine.
Like, that'll take care of itself.
But he's not that guy.
I can't really think of a great comp.
Like I said something before about this, and it made people.
mad. I was like he's not Kyle Anderson, right?
Where Kyle Anderson plays at a completely different speed than everybody else is.
This isn't that.
I don't know what people are going to see.
I know I'm rooting against them.
I know that. I don't give a damn who they play against.
I'm rooting against them.
I know this too.
Even if I ain't paid that much attention to college basketball this year, I feel very confident
about this.
You draw your conclusions about what's going to happen in the NCAA tournament based upon the
coaches, right?
They are the constants.
And there ain't as many of them as I used to think.
It took me forever to remember who Florida's coach was,
and then I remembered I only remembered because he was in some Title IX problems,
but he came out of that unscathed.
Anyway, I know this about Auburn.
Bruce Pearl coaches Auburn, right?
What I know about a Bruce Pearl team is this.
He is really good at coaching teams that you don't believe in.
He is really good at coaching up underdogs.
You throw some expectations on his team's shoulders,
and ooh, that starts getting a little bit dicey.
That is not a team that I would find.
myself putting a mortgage on.
Just letting you guys know that.
Sean, do you know anything else about college basketball?
I think I may have exhausted everything I knew about the men's gang.
No, I don't.
I was, yeah, it was a perfect transition because I'm,
you've hit all the big topics that I was like sending you.
I was like, I think this is it for us.
Yeah, I only knew about three players and only one of them is in the tournament.
Right fast, though, I was thinking about this.
I haven't done as much, I mean, I didn't do that much last year, to be honest,
but all the same, I haven't done as much talking about women's college
basketball this year, largely a function, I think, of the departure of Caitlin Clark.
But I'm also, I am not online in the ways that I used to.
And being online is largely where I saw a lot of the discussion.
And so I had to admit on my end, it felt kind of like the buzz around women's college
basketball did not sustain in the way that I thought it would coming off of last season.
Right.
That was how I felt.
but that's anecdotal.
I didn't really have any evidence.
Like I watched the other day,
I watched that Big Ten final, Sean,
the Big Ten final in Indianapolis
between UCLA and USC.
The sport is broken when I see stuff like that.
You know, like it makes no sense.
But I watched that when UCLA put the clamps on USC
in the second round.
But it was just like, I was wondering, like,
did we keep this going?
I've seen a lot of discussion around on Rite.
and people seem to have been watching unrivaled.
So like that class of players seems to have kept it up.
But I wasn't sure about college basketball.
And so in part because we get in this money,
but this actually turned out to be very helpful, Sean.
I posed the question to perplexity.
And I got to say, they gave a pretty thorough, what you call it,
synopsis here of what it is.
And I bring it up because it says, look,
they have an overall viewership increase that's up 3% from last year.
This was an interesting fact.
We saw the ESPN, the numbers were dashed.
until February.
Then they had a nice run of games that took things over the top.
ESPN's games is a 13% increase of the 28 games they played this year over the 27 from last year.
And this is without Kaelin Clark.
So without the phenomenon, they got a slight uptick in the ratings.
And the reason I bring that up is people are still watching, but the push isn't the same without Kaelin Clark.
And I think the lesson you can learn here is if the people are still watching, you can't make somebody
another Caitlin Clark, but you kind of can.
Like, Caitlin Clark doesn't happen entirely organically.
There's a push.
I don't feel like the Page Beckers or Juju push was anything, anything close to the same.
No, and like I've watched a lot of Juju just specifically because I went to see her and a lot of
UCLA matchups, very local and there's a lot of hype to it.
But to that point, I haven't seen the national ads like I have for Caitlin Clark and Angel
Reese last year where you have someone in Juju and Paige who are potentially, you know,
just as big, you know, like with their personal NIL numbers and their Instagram followers,
but there's just not the same star power.
Look, what Andrew Reeves did, though I don't always enjoy it, but what she did is pretty
simple.
She created what people truly need, which is a rivalry, right?
Having the players is one thing.
She made a rivalry where there wasn't one, right?
Somebody going to need to go do this.
Somebody got to nai jujuo out the sky.
Jujo got to hit somebody in an eye with an elbow.
It ain't necessarily got to be a white girl, but it got to.
to be somebody. Going to be honest with you, if it was a white girl, it would help just for the
numbers here. I'm being cynical about the situation. Not saying you should elbow the white girl,
maybe let the white girl elbow you. I don't know. But people are watching. I am a little
surprised there's not more of a push. We got some fascinating news as we were preparing to get on
to the show today. Tau Pellasarro reported that the giants are having a visit with James.
Yes. Now, for those of you who don't know, I've talked about it on this show before. It's not an irrelevant point. The one time that the Giants started a black dude on purpose, they fired the coach the next day and then let Eli Manning keep his job for like two more years. Right. They let Tyrod Taylor start a couple games on accident after that. But this is the franchise that's not been about black quarterbacks. If they go get the black quarterback who can't see, like, Sean, maybe they are going to take your door.
Right? Maybe they listened to me and they were like, okay, we need to go get a quarter black to ease the situation.
Even though I did randomly see James Winston won on a summer Sunday and a morningside part that is still crazy to me.
I have no idea why he was there. But I cannot imagine James Winston playing for the New York Giants under any circumstance whatsoever.
You mentioned it last week, last Monday when we were doing our quarter black and blackup discussion.
And you mentioned the guys, James is around. He's available.
but then this morning when you brought up
that he might be an option for the Giants
in my head immediately is like
there's not a better option than James?
What are we doing?
So Pelisaro, here's the thing that makes it wild.
Pelisaro said to three people
that they was calling in
was James Winston, Russell Wilson,
and Joe Flacco.
And I'm going to tell you
who I've got as the clubhouse leader.
I tell you what you can't do.
You can get two guys off that list
if you want to.
And please understand,
James Winston,
and Russell Wilson on the same team as a buddy cop movie.
But if you get two, Joe Flacco cannot be one of them.
Because the people, if they got Joe Flacco and they got Tommy DeVito and they go start
Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson going to be like, hey, hey, hey, guys.
I thought we were all cool.
That is just a massive nightmare scenario.
But also the thought of Shador being their quarterback, but having Joe Flacco take snaps away from him,
because that's probably what might happen
if he struggles is even worse, right?
I'll tell you this, though,
if Staten Island had more people,
the combo and Joe Flacco and Tommy DeVito,
they'd be getting some paper.
They be getting some paper.
I did have I got news for you,
the CNN show, my buddy Roy Wood and Amber Ruffin
and Michael Ian Black
and somebody in the audience before the show
asked the question to Roy,
like said they were from the South
and what place felt the most like the South to them.
and Roy asked me, you know, Roy from Alabama, I'm from Texas, and Roy asked me.
And I was like, I mean, it depends on what you mean by the South, but have you been to Staten Island?
That was half the audience laughed.
The other half was made wildly uncomfortable by the truth.
Staten Island is such a like, if you know, you know, but it's like the more you spend time in New York or the East Coast, like, the people who are the hardest on Staten Island are the people from Staten Island, which is hilarious.
Have you ever been to Staten Island?
Yeah, it's like maybe more than 10 years ago.
Okay, I have not been to Staten Island.
I've been here now for almost eight years.
I have not been to, I have, nothing has come up.
Like, it's not like there's been a situation with somebody's like,
yo, we go to Staten Island, you try to ride.
And I was like, no, there is apparently like some dope looking Asian garden,
like a Chinese garden in Staten Island.
But I have, I can't, I don't know what would have to happen to make me get on that boat
to go to Staten Island.
I was going to say you mentioning that statement of a friend being like, hey, I got a thing in Staten Island.
That's, I'd never heard that.
Never once.
Well, let me look this up because the thing about the boroughs is everything's got their own, right?
Like, everybody got their own zoo.
So there's a Staten Island zoo.
What do you think they got in the Staten Island Zoo?
People.
Right, let me see.
They got a Staten Island botanical.
There appears to be a Staten Island Botanical Gardens.
I got to say, I feel like Staten Island's got to.
getting, they're, like Staten Island being a whole borough is kind of like
Rhode Island being a whole state. It's 500 people and y'all get two senators?
Yeah, right, exactly. Here's the best things to do in Staten Island according to
perplexity. Snug Harbor, cultural center, botanical guard, like you mentioned,
there's a, there's a theater, museum of Tibetan art,
a couple historical sites, the ferry.
Apparently there are reasons to go to Staten Island.
Moving on, back to the NFL notes.
Sorry, James Winston took us down an incredible rabbit hole that I don't know how much it means to you people who don't know that much about New York City.
But trust us.
If all you know about, if all you know about Staten Island is the Woutang Clan, you know literally nothing about Staten Island other than the Woutang Clan.
And that's still more than most, right?
Fair, fair.
But did you see this, Sean, where the Bengals went ahead and re-up on T. Higgins?
They gave T. Higgins and Jamar Chase the contracts that I guess everyone.
was never going to think they were going to give them.
Well, okay, so Jamar Chase is the one we knew.
T. Higgins was the, oh, whoa, right?
Franchise tag after franchise tag.
Yes, and now they're apparently trying to figure out maybe how they can bring
Trey Hendricks in him, you know, get him on board.
And I think what I find to be interesting about that is so people are making the point
and they're like, hey, finally the Bengals are not being cheap.
Like Joe Burrow is getting them to go out here and spend this month.
The Bengals are not being cheap anymore.
And I don't take this as evidence that the Bengals are not being cheap anymore.
I take this as evidence that they decided to give the money to T. Higgins.
And we'll see in the end what they do with T. Henderson.
But I got like two questions, right?
Question number one.
And this is important.
Does this make them any better?
And I think the answer is obviously no.
Like it doesn't make them worse because they had T. Higgins.
Now they get to keep T. Higgins.
but having T. Higgins and keeping T. Higgins is not improving.
And as a team, they need to improve.
And the place where they need to improve is on the defense where like every metaphor
that I have for the poorest nature of that defense, the willingness of that defense to allow
others to do what they want with them, every metaphor I could use would be vulgar, right?
It's a burger kegs, is my good buddy Steve White, rest in peace, would say.
they burger kains you can have it show away it literally just makes the players happier and to your point
like i don't think the roster's any better i don't think the team constructs any better but
maybe the guys are just a little happier that they get getting paid well those guys are right
i think i think they have just made the decision we're just going to try to outscore people right
like that's going to be it and i think it was scott kasmar said on twitter i thought he said
something interesting where he was like if you have to give this much money to your number two
receiver then your quarterback's overrated i don't think that that means your quarterback is
is overrated if you give this much money to your number two receiver.
But if your quarterback is what they say he is, I don't know if you necessarily need to give
all this money to T. Higgins.
When you have the second best receiver in the league on the other side, Chase and Justin
Jefferson, who again played on the same college offense with Joe Burrow, which is just
comical to look back on, they are incredible.
But if Joe Burrow is that dude, I don't know if you necessarily need all of that,
especially when you got a squad full of burger kangs on the other side of it.
Like I don't know if this is the way that you should properly allocate your resources,
even if it's a, it'll make Joe Burrow happy, right?
Maybe you need to bring Joe Burrow in there and teach him how to do math.
Maybe that's a part of it.
But I don't know if this is the recipe that makes them a better football team, right?
Maybe it sets it up to him.
He'd be like, oh, poor Joe Burrow, he threw for 6,000 yards again,
but the Bengals are 7 and 10, right?
Don't know. Maybe that's the game. But I'm going to say this also. This is a very important note about the Cincinnati Bengals. You'd never forget this. That's the team that used to reuse jockstraps. Did you know that?
I did not know this. They had them cats out there reusing jock straps. I once mentioned that in a meeting when he was doing gang theory. And the thing about that is we had our news producer who always double-checked everything for legal. And he stopped to look that up. And I could tell what I would say stuff and he didn't think it was true. He was.
wasn't just double checking. He thought it couldn't possibly be true because after he looked it up,
he was stopping go, oh, wow, they were really reusing jock straps because he had seen the verification,
as Sean is doing right now, I imagine with that white light to see, yes, the Bengals was out here
reusing jock straps. They finally got an indoor practice facility and they're like, see,
they're not being cheap. They have an indoor practice facility. And my question is, what's in the
facility? Because you could be inside without no heater or no air conditioner. You did? I don't trust
nothing with them. What you got, man?
No, the perplexity is like being real coy about it.
They're like, it's no full confirmation, but they were like,
there's been rumors that during the 1990s and early 2000s,
they did reuse protective equipment, including cups,
which are often part of the jock strap.
Jock straps.
Jock straps, perplexity.
Lock it in.
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Yeah, like, you tell me they got an instant.
side facility, I need to go inside that piece and see what's going on for we, uh, for I'm so sure
that they're not just out here being cheap. Like, look, just because, look, cheap people spend money
on stuff. The question always because what they're not spending money on since they put that money
on like T. Higgins money, what is there, what are they no longer spending money on?
You, you walk up in the building being like, damn, um, what is this, how come, what it looked like
with the three circular, like, arc things.
Like, why I got to, why I got to use Apple Pay to get Gatorade?
Or it's like, yeah, exactly.
Like, what's the food like now that you've signed T. Higgins?
You know, are you getting gruel for lunch, you know, with the team?
Like, is it that bad over there?
They got a sponsorship deal with Amazon.
You know, Amazon got some little stores where you just get the stuff and walk out and they charge you.
Like, that's what they do.
These cats don't know, man.
They don't, they don't put, they don't put a tap, a tap joy in they, in they,
in their equipment.
Anytime they go get something.
They're like, yo, they get a bill
when they get back from practice,
like you get a bill when you come back from the doctor.
Like, is this a $50 band-aid?
Yeah, your new arm straps that you use,
every time you change a glove,
you're getting charged, you don't even realize.
Yeah, like you said,
the tap is just built into their, like,
their back or their head or something.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I always feel like with the Bengals,
don't you worry.
It's coming back around, baby.
It's coming back around.
They're going to be fun.
They're going to be fun.
But is there anything more frustrating the rooting for a team that just has no defense?
Is there anything more frustrating to that?
Particularly, and could you look this up, Sean, what the Bengals run defense was hitting on?
Because a team that can't stop the run is the worst sort of team to root for.
Like, because you can't even like respect them as people when that happens.
It's just not an option.
So here we go.
We got the run defense face significant.
challenges is the first thing they say.
That's all I needed to hear.
They face 456 rushing attempts.
They allowed 2,100 yards essentially of 17 rushing touchdowns.
Yeah, so not good.
They were, the run defense was last in the season.
Yeah.
Good luck, fellas.
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All right, Bo, here's the first one of the day.
Hi, I'm Tova Danovich, the author of Under the Henn Fluens, Inside the World of Backyard Chickens and the People Who Love Them.
I recently wrote an article for The Atlantic titled The Real Cost of Backyard Eggs.
If you've gone to the grocery store in the last few months, you know eggs have gotten a lot more expensive.
The current avian flu outbreak has resulted in the deaths of 166 million laying hens since 2022 out of a national flock of about 330 million.
fewer hens laying fewer, more expensive eggs.
It can seem tempting to get backyard chickens to keep the eggs rolling,
but when the new secretary of agriculture stated that backyard chickens were an awesome solution
to the high price of eggs, I knew we'd lost the plot.
This can all be explained with the phrase economies of scale.
Industrily raised hens spend their lives in windowless barns packed together with 50 to 350,000 other birds.
Individual farms can have up to 6 million hens.
If you've ever gone to Costco, then you already know it's cheaper to buy in bulk.
Contrast this to backyard chickens, where a flock might have three to ten hens.
When I got my own chickens, the setup, including the price of chicks that cooped for them to live in,
equipment to raise them, and food was over $1,500 before I got my first egg seven months later.
While we're used to getting eggs whenever we want in stores, hens lay eggs seasonally,
stopping when the days get shorter.
They also slow their laying after three years, but can live eight to ten years.
I loved getting eggs in all different colors and knowing where my food came from, but try not to think about how much it all cost me.
I thought of the chickens more like my dogs, who never even helped me save on the grocery bill.
There are a lot of problems with the way we raise animals on an industrial scale, but cost-effectiveness isn't one of them.
That said, backyard chickens are delightful pets and a source of eggs from hens raised well.
but they do lay the most expensive eggs you'll ever buy.
I have a friend who got chickens,
said girls be dropping good eggs.
You know what I'm saying?
Couldn't be me.
Could it be you?
Couldn't be me.
Could it be you?
Yeah, I just don't want to be woken up by a chicken in my backyard every morning.
You know, that, like, that alone is a bit much.
For my next trick, I'll make my own clothes.
I feel like we're, I feel like we're in that.
save exact space. Like it, that has to be a, I do it because I like it. You know what I mean?
Like it has to be your recreational activity. It's not saving any, like if you consider time as
money, like it's way more time consuming. I had a friend the other month was like, hey, I made
my own mayo. Do you want some? And I was like, I, why would I, why would I take your mayo outside
of the regular little bit of store mayo I put on a sandwich or something? You know, I'm like,
what's the use for a whole jar of that?
Well, if you get it for free.
It's true.
It's true.
Right, right?
You know, it just becomes the thing that you wish to do.
I hear you.
I also learned when I did the show, the Have I Got News for you.
Somebody got hemmed up.
I think it was like 500 dozen eggs.
Somebody tried to sneak them over the border from Mexico.
Like, like, eggs is, they really, they really like don't now.
Like, like, people, you know, people try to sneak 6,000 eggs across the border.
It's gotten real in the field out here.
I go to Costco.
a bunch, but I don't get my eggs at Costco because there was like maybe six months ago a Kirkland
callback on their eggs. But now I go and I see people stocking up on like multiple 24 pack
of eggs and I'm like, you guys didn't read the same stuff that I read or are you guys that
desperate for eggs that you need to get it in bulk like this? You ain't got kids. Yeah, that's a good point.
All right, here's the next one. My name is Carrie Batten and I'm a staff writer at the New Yorker
magazine. I recently wrote about the rise of nicotine pouches in the U.S.
in particular, a brand called Zinn, Zy-N.
These white odorless nicotine pouches,
which were designed to help people quit smoking,
have become a staple of the so-called manosphere in recent years.
Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan are two prominent users.
Much has been made about the rise of the quote-unquote zin influencers,
the bro-y content creators who are the loudest cheerleaders for nicotine pouches.
As a former smoker and vapor myself,
I was curious just how this product had become so popular
and what kind of health risks they pose.
For this story, I went to Sweden where nicotine pouches were originally developed.
Sweden has a long history of oral tobacco use by way of these little tobacco pouches they call snooce.
Nobody really vapes or smokes there anymore, in part thanks to their love of these products.
Sweden has a very low rate of smoking-related illnesses.
The original brown tobacco pouches have historically been favored by Swedish men, which makes sense.
They're brown, they stain your teeth, they smell kind of funny.
But in the 2000s, a Swedish scientist named Thomas Erickson worked on developing a product that would also appeal to women and help them quit smoking.
The white pouches, which come in all kinds of fruity flavors, are undeniably girlier and more hygienic feeling than the classic brown snooose.
Swedish teens seemed to love them too.
By 2014, white nicotine pouches were launched in a small number of stores in the United States under the name Zinn.
Eventually, with a lot of steady marketing and distribution efforts, particularly in the southwest, these products became beloved.
but only really among American men rather than women.
My favorite part of working on this story was discovering how a product expressly designed
for women in Sweden has become a symbol of masculinity in America.
You know, maybe putting it in those terms, Sean,
would be the way to get some of these dudes to like stop on it.
But I am, did they really try to come up with snuff for girls?
Crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just, it should be genderless in theory, right?
Yeah.
Well, well, no, no, no.
Like, snuff feels very masculine as an activity.
Like, when you hear people tell stories about how they grandma used to use snuff,
or they grandmama used to dip, you know, like, no, no, no.
Like, that's a man's activity.
They were like, girls want to use snuff too.
And American dudes were like, well, snuff is actually a little bit too, ugh, for me.
But I'm such a man that I will use girls' snuff.
Yeah, I'm curious how many.
people in your everyday life are using Zinn because for for me and especially people at this office
like Zinn is like gone rampant. Really? I feel like there's the two Americas component to
using using this uh using this designer snuff. Um, that is that's this is yeah, they are they are
using snuff. Yeah, I wanted perplexity to search like what's the average use and like what is
the comparison of cigarettes? Because it's like one can. I think there's a decent amount. But
people, perplexity is saying six to 12 pouches daily. Some people do as few as two to four
pouches or as many as two cans. I have people that could go through a can in a day, let alone a
week. But it's like, yeah, like if this is a way to curb cigarette smoking, you're essentially
end up doing way more nicotine in the process. Yeah, you might just need to quit. Yeah, here's our last
if you haven't heard. Hi, I'm Faith Hill and I'm a staff writer for the Atlantic. I recently wrote a
story titled, Teens are for Growing a Classic Rite of Passage. Some recent research suggests that
compared to years past, fewer young people today are in relationships. One poll from the survey
center on American life found that 56% of Gen Z adults said they'd never been in a romantic
relationship at any point in their teen years, compared with 76% of Gen Xers and 78% of baby boomers.
That's a big drop. So I wanted to know why that was happening, and whether people
should be concerned about it. Some experts I talked to weren't so worried. For one thing, you can have
romantic experiences without being in a defined relationship. Part of the change might just be in what
labels people are using. And developmental psychologists told me you can learn all the necessary
social skills, like making conversation or resolving conflict from platonic relationships. Besides,
lots of conventional milestones, like getting married or buying a home or supporting yourself
financially, are getting pushed back. The transition to adulthood just takes longer nowadays.
But that's probably not the only reason for the young love recession. Generational researchers
have described Gen Z as particularly risk-averse and wary of interpersonal trust.
One 2020-23-hinged survey found that 90% of Gen Z daters said they wanted to find love, but 50,
said that fear of rejection had kept them from pursuing a potential relationship.
My sources who've been interviewing teens and young adults said a lot of them are in very
ambiguous situationships, which can be great, but avoiding talking about feelings or the
relationship itself for some was a way to guard against vulnerability. And the problem with
that is that it doesn't always work. Young people would end up feeling confused about what they're
allowed to feel or to ask for, and that experience reinforced the idea that opening yourself up
isn't worth it. So ultimately, anyone feeling self-conscious about a lack of so-called relationship
experience shouldn't worry. But maybe we should worry about Gen Z in general, because even if
teens don't need romance, they'll benefit from letting people in. Well, Sean, and I think this is in part
because a lot of the doom and gloom tech books that I've been reading in the last few months. But what I was
curious about in that as a variable was actual interpersonal communication like stuff that doesn't
take place on the computer because what point this book I just got through reading was making
was that because so much is done through the computer and like it's the center of these people's
lives and it's really efficient like I think all of us have fallen guilty to this this is not just
about the young people but it's just a function of the tools it allows you to do a zillion
different things at one time and it makes interaction it can make it it. It can make it. It's
It can make interacting with people a lot easier because you don't have to deal with like a facial expression of what's going to happen with this, then, the third.
But what they said on the other end was, though, that this generation or these upcoming generations are less able to gauge, like, social cues.
Yes, yes.
And picking up on body language and those things like that because so often their communication has just taken place through text.
And I wonder how much of that, because you could definitely develop feelings for people through letters, pen pal type stuff or whatever it is.
Like, you know, there's all kinds of ways that you could do it, but that sort of thing doesn't
necessitate a relationship, right? Like, it doesn't come with the kind of need specifically for those
boundaries. And so these are the things I wonder about when I read that. It's like, after school
is over, how much of these people around the people that they say they like? Totally. Because even,
even like you mentioned the internet communication, like I'm only showing a portion of myself
on the internet. I'm only delivering a text or an email as like, you know, researched out or worded
out as exactly as I wanted it to be said, but that interpersonal awareness of like mistakes or
like common like cues or social awkwardness. Like people don't understand that these days.
Well, I think in person interaction or like relationships in those terms, and this is, I think,
a holdup for a lot of people. They involve a measure of compromise. And even the
Compromise being what temperature do you want the room in? What are we going to listen to right now?
You know what I mean? Like those those things are measures of compromise that when you're dealing with this just online, I can be in my chair.
And I can have my this and I can have my that and I can have a little bit of you.
And I think that's why the author Faith Hill wrote about like said the word situation ships,
which I feel like is a term that's been invented over the last maybe just five years.
But it's because people.
But people just historically can't commit to something long-term because of those things, right?
Like, I'd rather just be at the comfort of my own couch than trying to commit to a relationship that forced me to do something that potentially I might not want to do at that time.
Yeah, no, we have the ability to get exactly what we want has made us all worse.
Yeah, yeah.
And by the way, and I say this is somebody that doesn't necessarily think having a girlfriend when you're a teenager is not a bad thing, right?
as long as it's not the last.
Well, no, if you find love at 16, I guess that's not.
It's not a bad thing.
It's just funny for everybody else to watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let me know how that goes, buddy.
Yeah, yeah, you got it, homie.
You got it.
All right, coming off for our episode with Mina
and the discussion about her competitive parents
when it comes to just board games in general,
the prompt this week was anytime you've gone into a situation
where you're with your parents that have gotten a little too competitive.
We got some really good submissions.
Here's our first one.
He was always like, very introduced you to her father, was a cop,
California, and he just, to meet, her father comes up and he flies down to Lackland Air Force Base.
And, you know, I'm introducing him, and she introduces me to his wife, her stepmother,
my wife's stepmother.
At the time my wife was like 21, his stepmother was 23, crazy, right?
So I'm like, dang, this is weird.
This is, you know, mid-40s.
You know, mid-40send up with a younger woman.
And, you know, I didn't think anything of it.
And so about two years later, I meet her brother.
And, you know, where a woman for me, for a delayed meeting has occurred.
So I finally meet her brother two years after meeting her father and mother-in-law.
Like this dude in his feelings is a photo of him and his ex-girlfriend, which just so happens to be his mother-in-law now.
And I got to tell you, when my jaw hit the floor, I've never seen some shit like that.
I've never seen, you know, I've always heard about it.
We joke about it, but to see it play out in real time, completely wild, I have not been to a family gathering yet.
because that awkwardness could be top of the night.
Thank you.
I think you to take my call.
Bye.
Sean, what did he just say?
So if I can do the math correctly,
I assume the father's second wife is the ex-girlfriend of the father's son,
the guy's sister's brother.
Yeah.
Yeah, pretty insane.
You know, when I threw this prompt out,
I didn't think that we would be talking about this kind of competition.
I was thinking more like driveway basketball battles.
That is, yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Me and my pals had to fall out over that too.
That's a different level of competition, right?
Like you just said, that's like just pure pettiness or like evil.
There's no way that I could view that other than you wanted to hurt me.
Right.
How else could I see that?
You wanted me to hurt.
And, no, no, wow.
Wow.
Hey, man, dad's a player's too.
No, no, no, no, homie, no, no, no.
That doesn't fly in any situation.
Here's our next one.
Beau, Sean, what's going on.
So, this is a big time from the DMV.
So you talk about having a parent that is just way too competitive with you.
This actually kind of blends into the time you tried your parent.
But in this case, it was definitely my parent trying me.
So, like I said, my name's Big Tim.
So, you know, 6-2, right now, about 3, 40 or whatever, playoff as a line of college, D1, all that of good stuff.
So my pops, who you have to imagine is also a big fella, played the same position as me.
We both played center or whatever, but, you know, he ain't quite making it as far.
But that man, to this day, with, you know, bad back, too bad shoulders and a bad hip, believes,
nah boy you can't push me up all this line so uh this had to be i think maybe my sophomore year
college at this point i'm probably about 310 you know good solid 310 and like i'm home
on summer break and he like yeah nah uh the way they be teaching y'all how to do it nowadays
this ain't it because this is how you should throw a trap block and you know what i'm like
nah, that's not really, you know what I mean, how they be trying to teach us or whatever.
Nah, man, forget what they talk about or whatever.
You should do it this way because look at this.
And, nah, go ahead, get down in your stance.
Hold on, pop.
Relax, man.
Like, hold on, we ain't got to do all this.
No, no, no, get down to your stance or whatever.
Show me what you got.
So he wanted me to fire off.
All right, cool.
Get down in the stance.
File off.
I give him about 50% or whatever.
And when I do my 50, he comes like,
a good 75 close to a honey.
I'm like, hold on, you ain't about to just, you know what I mean,
just be pushing me around big old.
Like, we're not doing that or whatever.
No, all right, bad.
Go ahead and line nothing since you think you back.
Next thing, you know, he rolled around on his back.
My mother is at the kitchen window dying laughing.
You know what I mean?
And, yeah, I was about to say to this day or whatever,
he still say he's like, I didn't get him for real friend.
and nah, I stepped on his foot, something like that.
So, yeah, man, that's my story.
I'll be easy.
I'm going to be real with you.
I'm just glad your daddy didn't shoot you.
That's a reasonable outcome in that situation.
He come out, maybe not shoot you,
but come out there with the heat,
perhaps a little pistol whipping.
I'm glad he didn't go that way.
Yeah, that was probably the best way it could have gone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm glad that was actually a bit of a heartwarming tale.
Here's our last thought.
Hey, Bo, hey, Sean.
Appreciate what you do on.
the program.
But you asked about overly competitive parents, and I would just like to throw my dad into
consideration.
Like the Jones family, we are a Scrabble family.
Growing up, that was the one board game.
We could always, always count everybody being, like, able and wanting to play.
But at any rate, one vacation, we had taken our travel scrabble set, real ones know.
But we took that, and of course the Scrabble Dictionary on vacation.
One night, we're playing around.
My dad, my mom, myself, and my sweet, sweet grandmother.
And within three turns, my dad had scored roughly 96-something points.
It was just a very, very small amount short of a hundred.
But anyway, the shit-eating grin that he had on his face as he played one word,
a second word and a third word, and just absolutely mopped the floor with us.
We were all so mad even my sweet, sweet grandmother, who never had a bad word to say about nobody.
We didn't talk for a little bit, and we certainly didn't play Scrabble for the rest of the trip.
Appreciate all you and Sean Dubo. Thanks.
I'll be honest with you, brother.
I mean, three turns and almost around 100 points is cool, but y'all need to stay away from my house.
We'll wear y'all asses out.
Yeah, I feel like you, like you hearing that story made you chuckle
and being like, that's nowhere on the level of the Jones household.
No, let me tell you this, at our house, ain't no multiple player Scrabble games.
It's mono e mono.
Wow.
Right?
Like, you ain't going to be able to say that somebody else didn't play the defense right
and all of that stuff.
It's just me and you.
Like, that's how that's real.
That's real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how that right there got to be.
I do remember once, maybe the funny is I watched my dad
play against his brother once.
And you got to understand, he's a bit of a certain generation.
And I think the angriest I've ever seen my father be
was the time my uncle Walter tried to play to worry Jap, J-A-P as a word.
And my dad is like, what are you doing?
What are you talking about?
He's like, yeah, Mac Jap, like in the war.
And we're like, no, no.
That is not going to work.
It was, look, it was the 80s, so people weren't that sissing him yet.
You know what I'm saying?
But he was adamant that Jap was a word, and my dad was about to lose his mind.
But the thing was, sometime in the 90s, I believe it was, they actually made a big adjustment to the Scrabble dictionary about all kinds of slurs that were not allowed.
Like, a lot of the Italian slurs were in there.
So, Uncle Walter may have been correct, but my dad was not letting go.
And not because he was a good guy, but because he was.
is a winner. That is why.
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