The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Shedeur Sanders mania begins, Lane Kiffin's decision, Zohran outsmarts Trump | 11.24

Episode Date: November 24, 2025

In this episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones breaks down the beginning of "Shedeur Mania" after Shedeur Sanders led the Cleveland Browns to a win over the Las Vegas Raiders. Later, he discusses the... Eagles shocking loss to the Dallas Cowboys and other storylines following week 12 of NFL action. Finally, he reacts to the reports of Lane Kiffin's "decision", Zohran Mamdini's visit with President Donald Trump and a few listener voicemails. 00:45 - Shedeur Sanders Mania begins 18:40 - Eagles embarrassing performance 31:31 - Lan Kiffin's "decision" 43:50 - Voicemails Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. Also, guys, we have merch 20% off through December 1st.
Starting point is 00:00:26 You can get yours at the right time, bomani.com. The right timebomani. dot com. We got a lot of NFL to get to, but first, I don't even know if right now what I'm about to discuss actually qualifies as being the NFL. Like, it's obviously a football topic, but I'm looking at the way that people are charged up about this. It's way big in the football, apparently. It's way deeper than rap. Shador Media has 0.4.4.5.000. officially arrived. Ladies and gentlemen, it is here.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Kevin Stefanski's worst nightmare just took place. And this is what the worst nightmare was. Okay? It was a combination of factors. Shador Sanders plays. He does not play especially well. But he has a couple of big plays.
Starting point is 00:01:32 a couple of good plays, a statistical line that looks decent, and the Browns win. All worst case scenario. Now you're asking you so, why are these things the worst case scenario, but Kevin Stafansky. Number one,
Starting point is 00:01:54 this team is bad and probably long run is better by being worse. So like every win, I'm not exactly sure how they do in terms of him, saving his job or whatever, but they're not necessarily best for the Cleveland Browns. And I think Stefansky, I mean, on one level, he's swinging for his job. On the other hand, the man told him he's going to get to keep it, in which case, be sorry and let me get another quarterback. Okay, cool, right? That's not what you want. But that
Starting point is 00:02:19 combination of factors that I just gave you means that we are officially in the midst of Shadoomania. It is here. This is. I don't want to call it the same as Tebow Mania. But I will say this about Tebow Mania, and I think that this is an important distinction to make where I say that we're kind of in a similar stage, okay? Tebow Mania did not start with his first start. It started with the first game that he went into,
Starting point is 00:02:53 which was different than what happened with Shador, because the first game that Shadour went into is because Dillon Gabriel got hurt. No, the Broncos were getting their asses kicked. I think it was by the charges. and John Fox said fine. He took Kyle Orton out the game, and he put Tebow in. Now, I am firmly convinced that the reason that John Fox did that was like, watch, this will shut him up, right?
Starting point is 00:03:15 Let me put this bum out here and watch what happens. And what happened was the Broncos started to mount this furious comeback, and they didn't win the game, but they came back and it got close enough that it made it virtually impossible for them to not start Tebow the next game. And they did start Tebow the next game. I am comparing that Tebow performance to this first one for Shador. Because look, the first one of Shadour got into, like, come on, man. There was no chance there, right?
Starting point is 00:03:44 I'm comparing this to that one because it wasn't like Tebow was great in the course of that game that I described. But they moved down the field and they got some things done, right? Shador in this game had like the big pass to Bond where he rolled right through off the back leg, got the ball down there. Okay, cool. But he got a 66-yard touchdown where he threw the ball about 18 inches. Right, exactly. lot of what the Colorado stuff looked like.
Starting point is 00:04:06 And just to compare, and Tebow's first win, he went 13 for 27, you know, competing for 161 yards, two touchdowns to win the game, 18, 15, and overtime. Yes, and that was against Miami, right? Right. So you were right to the Chargers. He comes in the Chargers game.
Starting point is 00:04:22 They lose by five. Yes. Right. So he starts the next week and they win it overtime. Yeah, but he was bad. Like, I think I don't remember if I've told you the story that I did around the horn that day, right? Now, after that game, I hit a guy.
Starting point is 00:04:34 up that play for the dolphins now, who is now a coach. And I asked him, I said, so what you say on Tebow? And he said, matter of fact, he was like, hey, we lost the game. But that's the worst quarterback that I've ever seen, okay? Which, by the way, Shredor Sanders is not the worst quarterback I've ever seen. That's an important distinction also in this. However, I do around the horn the next day. I believe it's me, Woody Page, Bob Ryan, and Tim Kowleroshoff. And we go around, you know, in the circle on the conference call where everybody gives their thoughts. And everybody, like, you know, Woody, obviously,
Starting point is 00:05:10 he was in Denver, so he had his one vantage on it. Like, you know, he's like, hey, we got a little something, got the people going. The vibes off of Bob Wright and Kalashaw were kind of, you know, every white man deserved a chance. And these are guys I like, I want to be clear. Like, they weren't doing this from a standpoint of racism. But this is the world we live here, right?
Starting point is 00:05:32 They were just kind of like, yeah, you know, I thought it was bad, but eh, not so bad. And it got to me, brother, I was flabbergasted. Gob-smacked, I tell you. I couldn't believe what I was hearing, because I was just like, it's the worst quarterback I've ever seen. Like, I couldn't believe anybody saw anything other than the worst quarterback
Starting point is 00:05:51 I'd ever seen. Oh, my God. And that led to a good two, three months of them putting me on TV on Monday to lose my goddamn mind on TV. In front of God, everybody, I just couldn't take it. Like, you just find all kinds of clips with me. with my head in my hands just, just can't believe what's going on here. Like, and they keep with it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 It just keeps going. I don't, I can't understand what is going on here, right? And I was fighting against it. I felt like I was fighting against it. You know what, man? I think I'm going to say this, to Sodor, to the fans, everybody. I'm going to say this, perhaps on behalf of the people. people in my line of work, man.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Man, let's just get this money. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's just get this money. Is there a peaceful way for us to get this money, right? Because this really gets the people going. I will never understand how Sodor Sanders of all people became inspirational to folks. That is the most mind-blowing part about this is the idea that this is a feel-good story. I don't get that.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I don't get the investment that people have in him. None of this makes any sense, but it's here, we're there, we might as well just get this money. I think a lot of it comes from people feel, I think the Shador hive feels aggrieved of that he got, of the perceived lack in his draft stock and the fact that he went in the fifth round. And then, you know, I think he has become one of the most shocking underdog stories I've ever seen. There's a difference between. The shocking perception of an underdog. Yes, yes. So I want you to stand up screaming me
Starting point is 00:07:39 because I want to know if you feel where I'm coming from on this, okay? There is a difference between being an underdog and not being that good. Correct. No, like, being an underdog in the way that we talk about this is like, oh, he's not actually that,
Starting point is 00:08:01 I don't even know how to say. Brock Purdy is an underdog. Yes. Yes, I think that's maybe a better way to put it. I mean, Cam Ward is an underdog. Correct. I think that's the distinction that I'm looking for here. Cam's Ward, former what, zero star recruit for West Columbia,
Starting point is 00:08:20 Texas, it goes to Incarned Word, and then goes to Wazoo, and then winds up at Miami and becomes a Heisman finalist and becomes the number one pick in the draft. That is an underdog. this guy who has had a whole slew of advantages and the greatest advantage at all, a father with the power to be able to become a coach in all these places to shepherd you through to get to the point where you get to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:08:47 This is not an underdog story, right? They don't make rich underdogs, right? I don't think Tom Brady is not an underdog story. You're what the fucking Michigan? Is Josh Allen an underdog to you? He's a late bloomer. Okay, that's a good distinction. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:08 He's a late bloomer, but it's hard to be that big, that strong, that fast, that everything. Is Baker Mayfield an underdog? Kind of, yeah. Here's my favorite, and I apologize that this makes you upset. Do you know where I'm going with this? I do not. Is Jaywood Hertz an underdog? Huh.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Another interesting case. I mean, he's another very highly talented. or recruit. Who went to Alabama? Yeah, and Oklahoma. Yeah. He just has a ceiling on his talents, right? I think that's where this gets to be fun is an underdog, apparently, is whatever you
Starting point is 00:09:48 want it to be. Right. Right. We could turn anybody to order. Brock Purdy, underdog, Brock Purney, underdog, Brock Pernan, was an all-conference quarterback in college. People made Steph Curry out to be an underdog in the LeBron versus LeBron James and talk about, you know, father with lots of Vang just growing up, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah. But the thing I would say about Steph in terms of. of that where he becomes an interesting underdog case is none. He was so small when he got to college. Like if you watch the college version of Steph Curry, yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, and he went to Davidson. He did not play high level AAU basketball. So there was access to certain things, but the application was very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:25 But yeah, you, let me tell you the best example of this. I don't know if you remember this, but it was in 2010. The first year to Calapari was at Kentucky. And Kentucky played against, Cornell in the Sweet 16. Right. And the argument was that Cornell was this team of underdogs playing against a team with Eric Bledso, who as I recall spent a significant portion of his high school life sleeping
Starting point is 00:10:49 in a car. Yes. But he was a five-star recruit. Right. And it's like, who's the underdog? The Ivy League kids or John Wall, who, where I met his high school coach, it was like, yeah, you go to John's house right now. You'll see his mama hanging clothes on the line.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You know what I mean? like who's really the underdog here. Right. And it gets weird. It's difficult for me to put Shador as being an underdog in part because clearly a lot of people are betting on him. Right. There's clearly a lot of people that are on this.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I think it's great for him that he got to start in the NFL and that that start went as well as it did. I think it worked out well for him that he got to play against some bums. And it made everybody so mad with the Raiders that they lost to the Browns, that Chip Kelly got fired. fire. Right. Yeah. It was like, hey, man, dude, that's the first Raiders game. I think I've watched like for real, because I watched a lot of that game. Hey, man, Gino Smith, about to lose his mind, up in here, up in here. They're bad. They're bad. They got 10, I mean, the Browns sack them
Starting point is 00:11:57 10 times. I mean, it's just like the kind of sacks where, you, like, you know, we're not exactly, you know, football exes, no geniuses. And there's like, Is that guy supposed to block Miles Garrett by himself? Is this person I've never heard of going to take on Miles Garrett? Yeah, that's got to break the sack record before, you know, December 1st. Like, oh, so you're guarding Yokic. Exactly. You're 6'4.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like, like, how is this happening? And so good, like it, good for your door. I mean, not, he did not play poorly, right? You don't blame somebody. Like, he got the touchdown. It's the touchdown pass. It's what it is, but it's going to look better on paper than it did in application. He looked like he made some pretty good throws. Like, he absolutely should be starting next week. See, that's the other thing for Stefan. It makes it very difficult to defend the way that you have dealt with Chador and the way Dylan Gabriel has played after that game.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Like, no matter what is going to happen when he goes back and watches the film and he can probably parse and point out more errors than the lay person is going to be able to under those circumstances. but you have a hard time explaining to people why it was that you kept Hawaii 5-9 out there and didn't place Sador after that game. It's going to be tough, right? Because I don't really see it, to be perfectly honest. Like he said he's going to wait and see who's going to be the starter next week. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you right now, Shado is going to be your starter next week.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I mean, I could be wrong here. But if Shador is inspiring the people in the streets like this, I bet he got some people in the locker room there. And they just won that game. And you're going to have to look at them and explain why you're going to go back to Dylan Gabriel. No, sir, that's not going to happen. No, football players aren't interested in this tanking.
Starting point is 00:13:39 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And here's the thing. If he goes out there and beats a Bob solid defense, I mean, they've got a bunch of injuries on that 49ers side of the ball, but that's playing a real defensive coordinator and they're, you know, they're fighting for playoff position. Yeah, yeah. So, like, you know, this is another real test to see what he's got. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He's got, you got to play him. Like, that was the thing that happened with Tebow, after they had that comeback against the Chargers, you got to put them out here. Whether you like it or not, you're going to need to make peace with this, right? Because us over here, we're going to be getting this money. And we're going to be getting this money by talking about this a lot. And I swear, I don't know if it's just the internet giving it to me. People is not trying to hear about your Dillon Gabriel right now, brother.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Just telling you right now, they're not trying to hear it. I will tell you, however, what I'm not trying to hear, which is another word that Shador Sanders has to actually say out of his own mouth. Ryan, somebody needs to explain to him that all these things you're not saying, you just need to stop. I'm trying to show these people that I'm what they've been waiting for. Just, just play a couple of games, big dog. Bring it, bring it down.
Starting point is 00:14:49 We were talking about how I grew up at a 30,000 square foot house, but my daddy told me to took me to the hood to get that dog in me. Son, you play in five-figure watches. Like, this is not, like, if I, I mean, let me tell you, he took you over there to get that dog in here, but he didn't leave you there. Yeah. I was like, I bet he kept his eye on you. Like, I don't, don't, don't. Hey, man, just, just keep going.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Just, just, just, I'm here to help him right now in this. Just keep going. You got a good start here. You might be able to start for the rest of the year, right? you might be able to. You might position yourself well for the quarterback controversy that's going to happen next year, right? Like, just try to keep Dylan Gabriel off the field. And you get to play against the Titans.
Starting point is 00:15:42 You do. The Bears. Yes. You know, oh, God. Yeah, he's got to play the Bills and the Steelers. Yeah. And then he gets a free one against the Bengals when they're all going, you know. He does.
Starting point is 00:15:55 He does. In the year. Be cool, baby. Be cool. It's all I'm saying. If you can be as cool about this as you can, this can work out for you. I think it's best for him to leave Cleveland
Starting point is 00:16:05 if he wants to play somewhere. Like, I think you're positioning yourself for a future that is not for the team for which you play right now. I also know that Cleveland is consistently a cluster. There's no telling when Jimmy Haslam thought after that game. There's no telling with Matthew Barry. I mean, not Matthew Barry, Andrew Barry. Big difference between the two.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Andrew Barry made the trade to go get them. Right? So there's some level of belief. that's there. Can you imagine the group text, the conference call, whatever it is between the Cleveland Brown's brain trust that they're having about this? And speaking of places where he might end up, he might be, he might be looking for places in Vegas. He could, but they need to go get a real live quarterback too. But people are going to, people might think he's a real live quarterback after that game. They might, they might, but I don't know if Pete Carroll is one of those people.
Starting point is 00:16:56 I think Pete Carroll is going to go back and watch that film and curse out his own. own guys. Yeah. Right? And so let me tell you, buddy, Bob was at a bar. He said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, they got a bind.
Starting point is 00:17:07 My good buddy, Cory Urban, you know, he's a Browns fan for reasons that don't make any sense. That's incredible. He said last week, there was, and this is in Toronto, but he said last week, there were seven people at the Brownsbacker bar.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Today it was absolutely packed. Two 80-plus-year-old men came out for the first time this year because they said it was the first time they felt hoping a while. It don't matter. The football part, matters, guys.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Like, it's money. Shador Media, baby. Let's print out these t-shirts. Right, let's just ride this out. I don't even know if I, I don't need to have opinions about this anymore. I've stated how I feel about him. Let's just have some fun. I'm going to give him credit when he plays well.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I'm going to be honest when he does it. But in the meantime, between time, time, the best kind of fun, the kind of fun where the black people and the white people might start fighting. And by the way, it's not just the black people and the white people. it's the black people and the black people who send me text about it because they don't want to talk about it in front of people because it's getting just a little bit dicey out here in these streets.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Nobody wants to be called or roten. You understand what I'm saying? Right? Nobody was just being like, oh, you'll be ruffling through trash in the dumpster. You feel what I'm saying? Nobody, nobody wants that. But let's just get this money, man. Let's just get this money.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Because otherwise, it's going to drive me crazy. Speaking of being driven crazy, I'm so glad I don't root for the Eagles. My gosh. That was embarrassing. Yes. Because I watched, it was 21-0, and it just looked like they was waxing them. And so I went to go check out what was going on with the Browns. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Like, I knew I needed to have some eyeballs of what was happening with that game. I come back. It's 21 to 14. The Eagles suddenly can't move the ball anymore. The Cowboys are chipping away. saw Aubrey miss a field goal. I'm like, oh, it really ain't the Cowboys Day. And they won. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:12 the Eagles had some, like, what did they muff a punt? I want to say it was a Sequo Barkley fumble. Right. It was, it was. It was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in a way that I haven't seen. I mean, they haven't blown a 20 point lead, 21 point lead in over 25 years. Yeah, man, they, but that's, their office just, offense just turns off in a way that I can't remember seeing from a contest. They were squared up against the Make a Wish Foundation, and the Make a Wish Foundation is like,
Starting point is 00:19:41 hey, make a wish, and the Eagles were like, nah, we good. We straight. Couldn't do it. A.J. Brown got his 100 yards receiving. I guess that was good for him. But, nah, bro. Nah, bra. And Jalen Hertz.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Text I sent you at 5.18 p.m. Eastern time. Yes. Cowboys defense is making A.J. Brown and Devante Smith's dreams come true. Yes. her. And then not really so much after that. And I want to make sure that I get this right. By the way, Jaylor Hurts said 289 yards. They were really handling business in the first half, but they could not run the ball. And that is, look, the fundamental story about this team is that if you want to play the way that they are playing, you got to be able to run the ball.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Like all the receiver guys, they all got their money. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they got their opportunities. They got their stuff. Let me go find the, quote that hurts game, or it was the headline that I saw at ESPN.com. And yeah, the phrase that jumps out, let me control F and make sure I get to it because I'm like, oh, buddy, you can't do that. Here we go. Quote, we've got to own this one. Let it light a fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. Brother, brother, brother, brother, brother. I don't think you need to be talking to people right now about lighting a fire because they want to light you on fire.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Even though this wasn't your fault in this game per se, I don't think nobody wants to hear that from you right now. Like everything that we're hearing at every turn is about how people don't want to hear this from him. Right, for better force. He can't be the messenger. He doesn't want it. And see, the thing about Philly, Philly's interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I remember when the NAACP wrote that letter about Donovan Vignam telling him to get it going. And I was like, damn, the NAACP. I did not know about this. Oh, yes. I forget what, I think the criticism was that he doesn't run enough. They were just like, yo, you need to tap into your roots, basically, which is a little shaky, and get out there. But yeah, the NACP of Philadelphia put out something about Donovan McNabb trying to light a fire under him. You look at it up, you see it?
Starting point is 00:22:01 what I'm talking about. Yes. Yes, this really, be your old people sometimes. And this is the thing about Philadelphia and black quarterbacks or black coaches or whatever it is. It's the ones from out of town that'll put on their cape for you. The local ones turn to white folks when things are not going well because they want to win just like white folks do, right? And that's, that's Philadelphia for you. We will not be here to save you, brother, in Philadelphia, you when this goes down.
Starting point is 00:22:31 That's what I'm telling you. And here's how crazy the Eagles season is also a ride. I told you this yesterday. The Eagles have the biggest divisional lead in the league. This is after losing a game to the second place team. Correct. They are by far going to win their division. Nobody else can say this.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Right. And like they were had the one seat until the Rams had that beat down last night too. Yes. Yes. Yes. But this is the second time in three years. that, and by the way, they're eight and three. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Let me be careful and clear. But this is the second time in three years that they've had a team where it just felt like it ain't right. Right. Now, the last time they had a suffered from a stunning epic collapse in 2023. Of course, they just came behind that and won the Super Bowl the year after that. They went to the Super Bowl, had the epic collapse where they played against the Bucks, and it looks like they all quit out there.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yes. They win the Super Bowl and then whatever we're getting this year. And, I mean, they still got to play. the bears, the charters, and the bills. Like, they do not have an easy road towards the lap towards the next two months. Ryan, what a weird everything. Do you know Nick Siriani's career record as a head coach? I think it's something like 46 and 21.
Starting point is 00:23:47 56 and 22. Yeah, you see all the stats where it's like he's got like a John Madnessk winning percentage. Like he is like if you just look at the numbers, he's one of the greatest. He's 56 and 22 with a Super Bowl. Like, like, he's, like, it's the same start of the career that Jimmy Johnson had. Yes, without the bad first year. Yeah, with two trips to the Super Bowl. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Right, with two. Correct me, if I'm wrong, the first trip didn't go to overtime or something? Like, that was like super cool. It wasn't overtime. No, they kicked the field goal right at the gun. Yes, yes. But like, and none of us believe, none of us believe, none of us see it. None of, like, like, none of this, none of this.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And I just watched that in the, the Cowboys. look really thrilled to move their way up to, what is it, five, five, and one. Is that where they have gotten themselves to? Talk about let's get this money. Cowboys just stay irrelevant right before they go play the chiefs on Thursday. Let me tell you, ain't nobody saying let's get this money quite like that boy, George Pickens. George Pickens looked amazing in that game.
Starting point is 00:24:53 They have to keep them. Oh, no. Well, look, Jerry didn't get them to not keep them, right? Right. The question is. what language are we going to use in this paperwork to protect us from the invariable regression that's going to come once he has already got his money? And it's also like the classic Jerry Jones of he is a very great big time receiver.
Starting point is 00:25:16 He is also going into a contract extension that we are going to delay until probably August 25th. That is correct. And he is a ticking time bomb of being unhappy before and after he gets this money. or just being weird, right? Correct. Just being one of the two, man. What a weird Sunday of football. So I'm looking over here at this.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And let me just, the chiefs who looked terrible in that first half against Indianapolis. Look terrible in the third quarter too. Look terrible. It somehow managed to get that. And look, Mahomes doesn't look good. Like, I don't know what's going on, but he specifically looked bad. This was not just a matter of always Patrick Mahomes, but the team is da-da-da. He looked like a big part of the problem in the course of that.
Starting point is 00:25:59 game. But Indianapolis, man, are you buying, the chief said beat us Daniel Jones. And Daniel Jones was like, no thank you. I'd love to, but just don't think I'm going to be able to get that done for you, fellas, right? Um, what other weird old game did we have in the course of this?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Um, the lions. Yes. Brother, brother, brother. That was not Hey, Dan, no, no, no, it ain't going to be that. Mike Kafka, apparently he didn't want to be the coach of the Giants because he lost it with that one. I didn't think it was a ridiculous idea to be up three and to go for it. Right. I'm short.
Starting point is 00:26:41 And I think Greg Olson has talked about this with the change and the kickoff rules that, like, you're giving them back the ball on the 35. Right. In all likelihood, if you kick it off, you might as well. Taking the field goal to go up six does nothing for you. Yeah, yeah, well, you might as well try to win the game. And they did not. And look, the Lions tied it up.
Starting point is 00:26:59 up on like a 59-yard field goal. I don't care if it's indoors. I don't care if it's 20-25. That's never a gimmie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no, no, no, no. Over here, those of us who rule for America's cheap, we're like, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:14 By the way, James, see you, Big Dog. Yeah. See you, big dog. And, hey, it's vibes to making everybody feel good. It's vibes. Tampa Bay, they got a problem. Because I don't know how long it's going to be. like Baker, it's the other arm that he hurt.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He's got a spraying left shoulder, but he down bad. And correct me if I'm wrong, Ryan, they are now tied at the top of that division. I believe, let's just tick this. The Carolina Panthers, much to my surprise, are six and five. Yeah, they're both six and five. Who do? Right. Both with negative point differentials.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yes, yes. And by the way, the Eagles point differential is something like plus 33 being eight and three. They are 30. Exactly. Yeah. That's right because they lost. Yeah. They lost the game by three points. They are low key, just not really that good. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But they're not bad? Yeah. Like, they literally defy explanation. I don't have any answers for you on what to say they are or they are not. But you can't live like that. You know, I think that's just the way that I look at it out. Look at this situation. You can't live like that.
Starting point is 00:28:32 The Bears, another squeaker win. Yeah, eight and three, negative three point differential. And Caleb Williams with another good enough. Like our guy Nate Tice wrote a very interesting article for Yahoo about how the Bears offense has actually been explosive. And Caleb Williams has actually been really good. But nothing in these numbers says that to me right here. But like his QBR, the advanced QBR one, is very high for the game.
Starting point is 00:28:58 He had three touchdowns. He had no interceptions. You only get seven yards in attempt. I don't know how you reconcile all of these ideas. But they all come together, and we are hurtling toward a November, December to remember, because I got no idea what's going to happen. I have no idea what it means that your record is whatever your record is.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I have no gauge on what anybody truly is in this league right now, who's actually good, who's not, none of it makes any sense to me. None at all. But hey guys, this is what we have. This is where it's going. It should be a lot of fun. And hopefully Shador Mania doesn't just make it all stressful. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Starting point is 00:31:32 All right, two quick stories from the weekend. And Lane Kiffin's decision is, you know, kind of what hovers over college football. Ross Dillinger reported that LSU is preparing nearly a $90 billion offer. He's also still considering Florida. The Ole Miss Athletic Director came out and said they will make an announcement on his future after the egg ball on Friday. Bo, what are your thoughts? Just messy. He's just messy.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Like, everything about him messy. And I got a question for Ole Miss where they're like, we're going to announce this decision after the Egg Bowl. How do you know you going to announce the decision after the egg bowl? You're dealing with Lane. Like, do you guys have a decision that you're going to make? Are you going to fire Lane Kiffin after the egg ball? Because that's the only way that you get to say that you will make a decision. What? Did Lane make an agreement with you that this is what we're going to do? A week is a long time in college football. Especially for somebody who doesn't seem to like think stuff out. Right. I forget about college.
Starting point is 00:32:34 football. A week is a long time in the world of Elaine Kiffin. Like, what are we doing here? What is this in total? And I got to say, this is where it gets interesting for me. I'm not that old fashioned, but I totally understand the people who are raising the question of, how could you do this when you have a team that's going to the, to the playoff, right? How can you do this with the best team in the history of the school? And I think that this is different than, for example, Brian Kelly being the coach at Cincinnati and then leaving to go to Notre Dame before it's all done, right? This is one that you kind of ride out. Like, you got a team that could really make some noise here. And you may never get back to this place again, knowing you.
Starting point is 00:33:25 You kind of got to wait till next year, right? Like, that's my thought in this, is that this is not necessarily the time for you to make that move. But there are two jobs that are available that we have all thought were excellent to have. I'll just make the point that you at the job you have had the last couple of years have looked better than the coaches at those jobs. And say what you want about Brian Kelly, Brian Kelly is not a bad coach. Maybe you can say he did not work it out. But Brian Kelly, I keep saying, people get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:33:54 But he's a Hall of Fame level coach. You could probably get it done where you are. Like this has the great potential to make Lane Kiffin look. really, really, really bad. And by the way, and I don't know if the committee would do this, but if they wanted to, if Lane left, the committee could leave Ole Miss out of there. If it's close?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, just like, hey, you're not the same team that you were. And the problem that Lane has is Lane can't do this like Urban Meyer after the 04 season or other examples of guys that we've seen who get to work out the job. And that's not going to work making a move within the conference. Right, right. side. Nobody's going to let you do a commercial.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like, Elmiss is not letting you do a commercial for Florida or LSU for the rest of this, right? I am just reminded at every turn just how much I hate this person that I don't know. I can't stand him. Everything about this is. He has no real. He's the only one that would just lean into how messy this is at every turn. And it didn't have to be this messy. It doesn't. to me, you'll know how messy is if he goes to fucking LSU. And Ryan, no disrespect. But you know how messy that situation is right now. Like you add his mess to your mess.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I don't think you're going to like how that goes. I can't imagine. There is no situation where this goes great. Like, we are going to make an announcement on this day is going to make a lot of people look bad. It's almost like we had this very famous example about 15 years ago. We announced this very famous decision. And Lane Kiff is the only person in the universe who'd be like, that's an awesome idea.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Let's do that. Right. Like that went well for everyone involved. Let's do it exactly that way. We have all this noise surrounding this when he is so obviously the spiritual successor to Steve If you're going to do this, Florida is the place for you to go. There's no question about this. And then Spencer gets to deal with him.
Starting point is 00:36:12 And that'll be fun to watch. I can't stand this. So your three options are he stays at Old Miss, which you've stayed your feelings about that university. Yes. Spencer has to deal with him. Correct. Or I have to deal with him. You in Van, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 You have to deal with him. Yeah, you guys are got to. This is, I don't know if anybody's going to be happy, the way this goes in the end. Like, they'll be happy at first. But I don't know how happy they'll be in the end. And by the way, all these criticisms I have Elaine Kiven,
Starting point is 00:36:41 it ain't that easy to go find another coach like him. He just gets to be forever young. He's 50 years old. And we still think he's just this close. He's just this close. And how is Old Miss going to feel? Like you're going to do this every year? You dragged along like every.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And so that's the other issue, right? He's clearly, people don't, that old Miss job is weird. Should be better. Is not better. we all know why. Right? Like I think that's the best way to put it.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Should be better, it's not better. We all know why. But you're right. They're going to drag. It's going to be like this all the time. I would just also like to point out that for all this hullabaloo, they've beaten one good team this year. And that was Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:37:26 That's the only good win they've got. All right. One quick story. The internet went ablaze on Friday as the mayor, Alex Juan Mondami for New York City, went to go meet with President Trump, and seems to have won him over. Let's take a quick lesson. I'm clarified your answer to Stephen Nelson. He asked about your comment, call him the president a fascist.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And your answer was, but President Trump and I have been clear about our positions and our views. Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist? I've spoken about... That's okay. You can just say, yes. Okay. It's easier. It's easier.
Starting point is 00:38:06 explaining a peddle. Yo! That was an amazing Friday. Thursday, Trump is like the communist is coming. By the end of it, he's like, my son.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Right? He likes him so much more than he likes J.D. Vance. Oh, my gosh. He's going to tell J.D. Vance to ask Zorah, as Zorod, how he keep his beard like that. That's what it.
Starting point is 00:38:38 That was. top to bottom to wildest thing. Now, I think people were a little too surprised at the fact that they could figure something out. They have a thing in common. And look, no matter what Zoran is saying in public about a lot of these establishment Democrats right now, okay, Zoran and Trump got one major thing in common. The people that don't like Zoran also don't like Trump. Like they have a Venn diagram overlap of the people with who it doesn't work that well. Okay. Now, clearly Zobrod right now is on a honey greater than vinegar tour, right?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like he's saying nice things about Hakeem Jeffries. He made the move in there with Trump. And by the way, didn't back down off anything he ever said about Trump. But I think he went there and was like, hey, man, I'm from Queens, you from Queens. These are the people that hate you. These the people that hate me, right? Kind of like that scene in the wire where Avon and Marlowe meet in jail and Avon talking about, you know, but it's West Side.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Fuck these East Side bitches, right? Like, there's the common ground, right? You West Side, I'm West Side. In this case, you know, Queens. But you Queens, I'm Queens. You don't like Hakeem Jeffries. I don't like Hakeem Jeffries. You don't like, like a whole list of them.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Think about this, man. They had Zoh, they played Zoroa like he was Arafat. He showed up to meet with the president, and they took a vote to be like, we, the Congress say fuck Zorrah. And everything he stands for, right? They took a vote to condemn social. Who has this kind of time?
Starting point is 00:40:13 Right? Like, what are you doing? So he goes in there, he meets with Trump. And I think Trump, he's like, yo, I'm a man of the people. You're a man of the people. You and I talked about this. Trump likes people who present well on television. Like he has a real game recognized game on that.
Starting point is 00:40:28 He sees that about Zoran. Zoran's like, why would I come in here and fight this man? You know what that'll get us? The National Guard. That's what that'll get us. No, I'm going out there and talk to him. and be like, look, man, you say you down for the people. I'm down for the people.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Let's get down for the people. And Trump is like, get a load of this guy. Okay, I see what time it is. And here we are. How long will this last, though, Ryan? That's my question. These honeymoon phases are always quick, but Trump is consistently impressed by a few things,
Starting point is 00:41:02 being good on TV and telling him and finding nice things to say about Trump. Yes, yes, yes. Like, I think people misunderstand. something. It's a war going on outside. No man is safe. But you do not, there's no value to Zoron to go in there like raising hell with Trump in there. No, Trump is easy to game up, right? He is very, we've seen his playbook for eight years in change, right? And he just went in there. I mean, this is, this is as much the apprentice playbook as it is the presidency playbook. Yeah, yeah. So he just went in there. And I've never seen more people just stunned and shot. Zobron got game, man.
Starting point is 00:41:39 he goes in there with all these people. Now, of course, Zoran's in this place, and this happens with everybody that's like him. It was going to be the case whether it would be Bernie Sadd as anybody else, which is you can't fight them all at one. You can't take all the fights at one time. And what that means as a result is now this is going to get a little bit more towards center because it has to, right? Zoran represents a base of people who by and large never get to win anything. Right. So you largely are idealistic about everything that you feel, but that's not how this government actually works. So once you get on, now you've got to do some of the things, right? And now we're seeing that, right?
Starting point is 00:42:21 The thing that's going on with Chia L.A who wants to run against Hakeem Jeffries, and look, that's complicated for me because that's Cobbigh Jackson, right? Like, that's what it's going to be first and foremost to be. We'll get to the rest of it. But the Democratic Socialists, they own little click, right? They got somebody who from the outside try to come in and use their network to go run up on this other guy. And Zohrod's in there and was like, hey, I don't know if we can get away with this one right now, dog. I don't know if we can, you know, play.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's going to get really, really weird. But if you're the Democrats, Donald Trump is getting with the wave. Y'all are calling the wave a comment, right? Democrats, the only people I've ever seen be like, hey, man, it's a wave. we don't want no parts of that. I was waving away. Hell no. Even Trump was like,
Starting point is 00:43:09 yo, get a load of the wave. Where's my board? Damn, man. I see what the big deal is now. Couldn't believe it. Wildest thing I'd ever heard. I'm all over the place on this.
Starting point is 00:43:19 We'll talk more about it later. But it's going to be a very interesting first two months of Zoran in New York City. And I think you're not right. You said it on here before. You said it already. Job one. Keep the National Guard out. Because if you go talk to people about what's going down in Chicago right now,
Starting point is 00:43:37 it is insanity. What is happening there. I think Zorah's like, hey, man, let me give it a try first. Like, let's see it. He's like, I got this. Trust me. Watch. Watch what I do.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Watch what I do. All right, Bo, voicemail lines open. We got a appearance from one of the greatest hits. Let's take a listen. Hey, this DJ Mike hit, man. I got a question. Since I'm on the right time with Beaumani Jones, Beaumani. I'm putting my name in the candidate running for president for 2009.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I'm making everything right again. I'm going to make America better and understand it. I'm bringing smoking back for America smoking the bar again. Men's, if you want to smoke in the bar, I'm bringing them back. Vote for me, DJ Mike hit, man. Bring a smoking back. Now, it's your choice if you want to smoke in the bar. Guys, when I'm bringing it back, women, you're allowed to wear short dresses again and have some dresses again.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Ladies, if you vote for me, I'm bringing everything back ligarize. I'm running for president for 2009. I wish I had my jewelry curls. I would be real be flat, but I don't have no cherry curl. I just got grease. Pete Ditty, I'm taking the baby oil and rub it back on my head again because I'm running for president. I'm bringing everything back. Everything will be legalized the right way.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Tell us, you could grab a Cadillac with the TVs back in it. Okay, ladies, you could go back shopping again and spend other people money, even your own man or your mistress. It don't matter. I'm bringing everything back the right way. Bo, you need to hit me up. You need to get the producer, all y'all be my candidate. So I put money in my pot.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I'm going to run for president for 2029. you're going to be the first president on the West South Chicago stepping in party. We're going to bring everything back and make it right. If we can make we legal, we can make everything else legal. And Nancy Reagan will agree with me.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Have a good one, Bo. Are we going to have a special election in 2029, Ryan? Trump, Zoron, DJ, Mike Hitman. Hey, man, let me tell you something. You get a Zoron Mike Hitman ticket. that will be unstoppable. I am dead ass when I say that. Like, how do we,
Starting point is 00:46:15 how do we get Mike and Zoran in the same room? Somebody called Pablo. He out here kicking it with Zoran. He can help make that happen. But wait, there's more. Hey, Bo. This is DJ Mike here, man. I got a question.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I need to be on your show. Just give me this. And, you know, I take 15, 20, 30 minutes. Give me an hour. I want to talk about these boys. spending these other people money gambling. You know, I know the whole detail. I can go behind the thing to give you the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:46:46 They give you that news report of stuff. But the man on the street is telling me different things, both. You need to get me on the show. And I'm going to tell you, it ain't going to be nice. These boys is gambling in debt spending other people money. I know the real story. I know why they're doing it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 First of all, the NBA money. Manchin panny's boys. Well, Martin getting him a good pension. Come on, boy, let's do this. We got a new commissioner. Soft as a whistle. He's sold. I think I should run for a commissioner.
Starting point is 00:47:20 But, Bo, hit me up and let me come on the show. And I got some stories to tell you, too. Boy, I got some great stories in Chicago. And when I went to Mexico, I got some great story. You need to hit me up, Bo. Tell you, Bo. Have a good one. I will say this. Mike Hitman is NBA Commissioner.
Starting point is 00:47:37 That's what we need. We need an NBA commission and a fur coat. That would change the things. All right. Here's our last one. Hey, Bo. It's Gary. I'm here in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Long-time listener, huge fan. The episode where you were talking about Nico Harrison, putting Nicolet Yochage and Drew Holiday in the same tier. It got me thinking about a time where I had a buddy of mine. He kind of did the same thing, but it was with football. So back on when we were working together part-time, he went to high school with Jake Fromm. So we're all around the same age. And when Jake Fromm got drafted, whatever year it was, fourth round, fifth round,
Starting point is 00:48:28 I remember texting him and I was like, oh, man, you know, this is great. You know, I'm glad he got drafted, hopefully he makes the team. and Bo this man proceeded to tell me and I quote I don't know man I think he's going to beat out Josh Allen for that number one QB spot
Starting point is 00:48:46 yeah he really said that and Bo he meant it like he really really thought Jake Fromm was better than Josh Allen I wish I was making this up and
Starting point is 00:49:03 you see where Jake is now selling insurance which is fitting given his name and yeah I just wanted to let you know that story because to this day I still can't believe he really said that to me and to add a little sprinkle on top this is the same man who is also a die-hard UGA fan and leading into the SEC championship the year LSU won the whole title. He was telling me, you know, a few fans,
Starting point is 00:49:41 yeah, man, I think we got a, I think we got a good chance to beat y'all today. I think we're going to win. And Bo, with no hesitation, because we were on the phone, I told this, man. I said,
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'm not afraid of Jake Fromm. I'm not. And you can ask Ryan about that stat line because Ryan probably remembers it. So, Yeah, he loves Jake Fromm. That's his boy, but he did not want to come to the realization that he wasn't that good.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Because like I said, he's selling insurance now. So, yeah. Thanks for everything. Love the show. Cue was a good work. I appreciate it. Now to be fair to Jake Fromm and your Jake Fromm loving friend, when Jake Fromm joined the bills, it was right after Josh Allen was throwing,
Starting point is 00:50:38 Hail Mary's Square Bodies in the playoffs. We hadn't had a proof of concept yet on Josh Allen at that time. But, oh, hey, man, we all got to have, we all got to be a fan of somebody, right? To be fair, I mean, the person he might have been talking to was Kirby Smart. That's totally on the board. That's the guy that loved him with Jake from. Good gracious.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Like, my thing is Kirby always, it's still an element of Sabin 1.0 to Kirby. Right? Keep it close. run the ball, quarterback, don't mess nothing up. But hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four times a week. Now, this is Thanksgiving week.
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