The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Shohei Ohtani & Wembanyama's monster games. Is LSU the best college football job? | 10.28

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Bomani Jones reacts to the monster performances from Shohei Ohtani and Victor Wembanyama on Monday night. Later, he discusses why almost every college football coaching job is no fun anymore. Finall...y, he reacts to the Chiefs beating the Commanders on Monday Night Football, Trump demolishing the East Wing of the White House, and much more! 00:30 - Shohei shines in Game 3 of World Series 12:00 - Victor Wembanyama is the future 22:30 - Why every college football coach job stinks 35:00 - Chiefs dominate Monday Night Football Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:05 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original. My name is Beaumani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We got some college football talk coming up a little bit later,
Starting point is 00:00:25 but first, we got to talk about how I want to say that we appear to be in our Godzilla era of sports, but you're going to think I meant something that I didn't mean, and it's just a little bit too on the money. But we are definitely in our F-O-H era of sports, which is to say we have not one but two people who are currently playing sports who just drip with fuck out of here. And what I mean by that is,
Starting point is 00:00:52 you just look at it and you're like, this can't be real, fuck out of here. There's no way in the world that this is actually happening. So I want to tell you, as I woke up to record this podcast, I got up, I don't even remember, remember what time. You know, I get up fairly early. I like to get in, get a workout, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:01:10 saying, talk to Ryan, figure out what we're going to do. So I get up and I get a text, and I'm be honest with you. Sometimes I'd be forgetting that the World Series is on, which is a shame because I enjoy playoff baseball a lot. But I, you know, they took a day off. I forgot. But anyway, I wake up to a text from a good buddy, Justin Tensley. And it says, and I quote, this motherfucker Otani S-M-H. Now I need to look and see what time
Starting point is 00:01:38 this text was sent because, oh, the text was sent yesterday and it was at 11. So the game was probably still in regular innings. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:01:54 that's all I know is that this motherfucker has done something. I don't know what the thing is. Okay. So I go to workout. And I run the workout through the television, right, in the living room because I live in New York. So, you know, you got to use rooms for multiple purposes.
Starting point is 00:02:10 So anyway, I'm running it through the living room TV. I turn the TV on. I think it was all on ESPN for the night before. And it says something about how Shohay Otani had four extra base hits and also five walks in the same game. and I honestly didn't understand how such a thing was possible. So I then go and I pull up the app to look at the box score. And I see that the game went to 18 innings. And I'm like, oh, okay, now I see how it's plausible.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Such a thing happened. But then I look for Otani and it says four for four, but it says one BB based on balls. And I'm like, where are these other ones? And I don't understand, like, none of this is making, sense to me. I don't know what's going on. And so I sit down at this chair and I ask Ryan, like, did he have five walks in a different game? And Ryan explains to me, oh, no, no. He had four extra base hits in this game. He had five walks and it said only one in the box score
Starting point is 00:03:25 because the other four were intentional. And Ryan, I'm going to need you to jump on to make sure I got this part right. After the ninth inning, the Blue Jays decided we ain't pitching to him no more. Is that correct? They walked him intentionally in the ninth when the game was tied and they kept walking him. So like it was five walks, four of them were intentional and the fifth one was, you know, on four pitches, so it might as well have been. In the 17th. I'm not losing. Here's what Here's what's not about to happen. The most foreseeable outcome is not going to be the way we lose. Yeah, I mean, that's the baseball version of putting two guys on Megatron of the goal line.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Like, I don't know how we're losing, but we're not losing this way. You remember when Kauai Littert was absolutely like just the most unstoppable force on offense and teams were running their offense with four people? Yes. Because they weren't allowed this. When Orlando Pace was in college and they wouldn't even line anybody up over him. Right. Genevon, Cloudy, you just run it the other way.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But by at large, these examples are called it. This is the boxing one to a whole, whole, whole, whole, another level. Like, even, like, Barry Bonds, who we have seen be intentionally walked with the bases loaded before, which quite honestly is the most disrespectful thing you can do to whoever the person is that's batting after him. Like, I remember when Showalter did that with Bonds and the dude who was hitting after Bonds, who probably hated Barry Bonds. because everybody else did. He's no comment after the game.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Yeah. What are they saying to you? You open for a reason. Right? Exactly. That's what they're saying to you. Hey, man. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:10 The thing about Otani is greatest baseball player of all time, which, I mean, we have a very, very significant argument for this. The holdup is, at least for me, and I'm 42. Wow. I'm so old. I forgot how old I was. I'm 45 years old, which I understand to a lot of you youngsters seems like really old. So old I couldn't even think of a proper word. But anyway, I'm 45 years old. But in some ways, I am older than that. And I realized that when I used to do around the
Starting point is 00:05:47 horns and it was the kind of things that me and Bob Ryan would agree on, now please understand, that's my guy. I'm a big Bob Ryan fan. I'm out. I'm out. always feel like if me and Bob are on the same side, with a couple of exceptions, but if we on the same side, I'm doing this right. And two things that we are both on the same side of that I believe is the right side is, A, a fundamental distaste for the three-pointer in basketball, though I have a bit of an understanding for why it must exist anyway. And two, the designated hitter is some rock and jock bullshit. I hate it. I can't stand it. It's not, it, it was bad enough when it was one we league that had it.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Now everybody has it. No, it defies the logic of the game. Either you get on the field and do everything or you don't. Like, this is, this is how it works. This is how baseball is supposed to go. I hate it. And so my issue with Otani is he doesn't actually play the field. So, you know, he's just limited to being a dude who does.
Starting point is 00:07:00 50-50 and pitches really well. But I ain't never seen him run around in right field. I understand why that may seem silly to you. But that's, I think it's a fair hold-up. You know what I'm saying? But it's becoming the only hold-up. Again, Barry Bonds is the comp. And the thing with Bonds, to be fair,
Starting point is 00:07:21 and this is why I bring this up, is that there's a statistical argument of nothing else that Barry Bonds is the greatest defensive left-fielder that ever exists. bonds is also in that weird space where he's quite possibly the best baseball player of all time, but also not a five-tool player, which I guess in large part is something we can also say about Otani, but the problem with bonds as the five tool, of course, is as Sid Bream and we Atlanta Braves fans can tell you, bonds don't throw the ball that hard.
Starting point is 00:07:49 That's the tool he didn't really have. But this is so wild because it's crazy this deep into the 21st century. to see something and still feel fairly confident that you're never going to see it again. You know what I mean? Like, the idea that you're never going to see something again after a lifetime of having your expectations defied and still being able to look at something to be like,
Starting point is 00:08:20 no, no, no, no, no, no, this, this, this, this, this, this, this one in a million chance of a lifetime. This is the only time we're going to see this right here. And honestly, it's that 50, 50, 50. thing. I really, like, Ryan, I don't know how we don't talk about this all the time. Like, I think we talked about it when Otani had the crazy game, a Friday night game, where he had the homers and the strikeouts and everything else. We talked about it a little bit this summer when, you know, he was on our North American top 25 list.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, yeah, but I told you my guy that he shouldn't have been on, yes. But that's how cold he is. Whoops. Yep, it happens. But our guy Mike Sealski was talking about there was the guy that pitched for the, pitch for the, the Phillies who in one game against the big red machine, a team that had four Hall of Famers, all within the run of when they would have one,
Starting point is 00:09:10 I mean, not Hall of Favors, four MVP's, in the run of which they would have won MVP's, by the way. But he said the dude had two home runs in the game and a no hitter. And I'm telling you, you'd have heard about that all the time. If you knew anything about me, that's my four touchdowns in one game. You better be ready. I don't know how we don't talk all the time about how this man rang up a 50-50.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Like I remember the first 40-40 and how crazy it was, right? And most of the 40-40s were a bit contrived because at some point the stats were being chased, right? To get to one of the 40s, there was a, it's kind of like those Russell Westbrook triple doubles at the end, right? I mean, it's not the full like stocked and assist record. Yes. Where it's like doctored, but it's like very clear, it's like not, well, their stats are doctor, but it's very clearly like you're chasing this goal. Yeah, they're being padded. Like that is what stat padding is exactly it.
Starting point is 00:10:05 But 50-50, even if you're padding, you're only padding after you've gotten past the 40-40. This is it. I can't. I, I, how does he have the nerve to be fast? I mean, the game in, one of the reason it went to the, so many innings is in the ninth. He tried to steal a base.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Yes. Try to steal a base. And he stole it, but he fell off, he got off the bag. Yeah. I would also make this note, though, that since you can run fast, have you thought about playing a little center field? I mean, that's the thing with the Dodgers is.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Because they got a zillion players. They're walking. Here's the thing about the walks, is they're walking Otani to get to Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts. That's not about to say. Mookie Betts has got to be lurking there somewhere. Yeah. And I see that Freddie hit the home run to shut it down.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I can't imagine how bad anybody, everybody involved wants to be home by the 18th inning. You know, my hot take on sports is that. No overtimes? No overtimes, man. Wildly overrated. Call it a tie. We'll come back later.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I don't feel like doing this anymore. Yeah. I mean, it's like, as such as you, if they're not, like, it's the idea of playing of baseball, you know, where the game doesn't end, they play two whole games. Yes. Like, the idea of playing your eighth quarter in football is just like so preposterous, but with something we accept baseball. Man, at some point, I'm the manager.
Starting point is 00:11:30 I'm getting myself kicked out. I'm coming out there for no reason. Yeah. Like, dude, we called it to strike. We called it for you. Just throw me out of the goddamn game. I mean, the game went on so long. Kirshaw pitched and gotten out.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah, I didn't know they were even going to. I didn't know he was allowed to pitch anymore. Yeah. I thought the only pitch they were going to let him throw was going to be the first one. You know, like the one where they catch you don't wear no mask. And everybody claps after you do it. I didn't think he was allowed to do that at all anymore. But we bring this up as we have reached this era.
Starting point is 00:12:04 We have not had our chance yet to talk about Big Vic. Victor Wimbayama is like, he's the reason to get the league pass. Like if you are into basketball like that, he's the reason to get the league pass. I can't lie. So far, all I have seen are short clips off of the internet. However, I can count and I can read those statistics. and we are never going to see anything like this again. Like, you know, at some point, I fully acknowledge
Starting point is 00:12:41 and we all do that this is going to have to like turn into something and they're going to have to do some measure of winning. And I feel like most of us kind of recognize that this is the time when this is going to happen. Right now, this young man in 32 minutes a game is averaging 31 points a game, 14 rebound, and I say almost 14, let me be clear, almost 14 rebounds and almost five blocks
Starting point is 00:13:11 while shooting 60% from the floor and 36% from three. And those of you who have not actually seen any of the clips, do you have children? And when I say, do you have children? I don't mean do you have offspring. Okay? And when I say,
Starting point is 00:13:42 do you have offspring? Or I don't mean do you have offspring? I don't mean do you have small children. Okay? I don't mean like do you have 10 year old, something like that. I don't mean do you have a five-year-old?
Starting point is 00:14:00 I mean, do you have a child between 18 and 24 months? Okay. If you do have a child between 18 and 24 months, I want you to give that child a ball and ask that child to throw the ball toward one of them little fun goals, little goals for the kids.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And when that kid puts that shot up, I want you to spike that, like you're trying to throw it through the ground, like you're trying to make a crater in the ground. And then when you get it, I want you to take the ball and I want you to go all the way to the other side of the room.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And then I want you to take a shot from 30 feet. And I want you to make it go all, nothing but net in. That's what this dude is doing. It looks like he's playing against, like before it looked like he was playing against, children just because of the size thing. Now, he's treating them like children, too.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Now, look, Anthony Davis showed up looking a little bit out of shape, right, in game one. But Anthony Davis is still a Hall of Fame, top 75 player, and NBA champion, and important to note, 6 foot 11. He couldn't do anything with Victor at all. Nothing. Nothing. So this guy is 7 foot 5. and doing these things, shooting step-back threes and hitting people with low crosses.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Like, it's one thing that you got to figure out how to guard somebody that tall. It's another thing when there's a legitimate question as to whether or not you're going to be able to keep him in front of you. Like, I talked to a guy who has played with him during the preseason. There's a text. And the response was four words. he's the one bro. Brian,
Starting point is 00:16:09 you're a little younger to me. So I have the, you know, I got a little more historical perspective here, but I don't even think that matters. No. Like,
Starting point is 00:16:18 like this is, how is this a thing? It's just like when you talk about the high gap, like the rumor is he grew to 7.7. You know. As if those two inches matter, by the way. But I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:32 just think of, think of how tall a six, seven person is. when you see them. Like, you know, you're walking around, you see a six person, like that is a objectively tall person to look at. Now out of foot. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, like Anthony Davis standing next to Victor, it's kind of like you've seen this, me standing next to Mello. Correct. Right. Or like Rudy Gay, where Rudy Gay pulled up at that event that we did in Las Vegas. And I didn't even recognize him because I wasn't looking,
Starting point is 00:17:06 up. Like, I was walking through the door and looking this way, and I didn't see a face. It's like a human being, it's like a human being on a different floor. Yes, yes. And I'm not, neither of us are short people. No. Like, I actually think that me and you are like the Twin Towers of podcast. You know, like especially non-NBA player podcasting. Yeah, we're the, we're front court players for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're showing up and we putting our backs on people. Yeah. We call, and then we call for the ball. Rudy Gaywall passed, and I had to apologize to him when I saw him later
Starting point is 00:17:40 because I didn't want him to think that I had ignored him. I just wasn't looking up that high big dog. I saw this interaction. It's exactly what happened. It's kind of... It's kind of like... You know what it's kind of like... Living in New York, this happens, I don't know if this happened to you.
Starting point is 00:17:54 How many times I walked past the Empire State Building and didn't realize that it was the Empire State Building because it doesn't seem like the Empire State Building unless you're looking up. So you just get off on 34th Street, and you know, there's lots of reasons. for you to be on 34th Street. Yeah. But when you're walking past the Empire State Building, what makes it the Empire State Building?
Starting point is 00:18:12 You don't see because you're going this way. That's what it was like with Rudy Gay. And Rudy Gay is eight inches shorter, at least than this guy that we're talking about. Yeah, might be 10. Yeah, it's ridiculous. It's on the board. And he's not just like dribbling, kind of crossing people up.
Starting point is 00:18:33 He's kind of sort of and one crossing people up. And now he's hitting people in the chest with his shoulders and moving them back. What are you supposed to do? And I am certain. And I haven't heard anybody say it yet. But I am positive. Okay. Here's what I.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Okay. My favorite Victor Winbanyama moment of all time is when they played like one of them hoop summits. Right? They played one of the hoop summits. and this is when Scoot Henderson was the thing. I'll probably talk about this year, but I'll never get tired of telling the story. They were playing at Scoot Henderson,
Starting point is 00:19:17 and they were asking him about how good Scoot Henderson was, and I think this was an interview he did in French because he does the most in French. And he said, yes, Scoot Henderson is great. He would definitely be the first player drafted if I had never been born. Also, I believe it was his rookie year, and Rudy Gobert won defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 00:19:38 And in French, Victor said, congratulations to him because it's going to be the last one that he wins. I say all that to say that if we're at the point now where he's doing this to people and he's putting his shoulder in people's chess, I assure you that he is talking cash money shit to some of your favorite NBA players. I promise you that he is. I can only imagine how annoying it is to have somebody talking shit to you that's that skinny and speak French. I just can't.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Can you imagine when he goes to put his shoulder into what he thinks is your chest and he puts it in your face? Yes, I had not thought about that part. Just think of the physical, like, he goes to lower it down and you get the uppercut. Right. What does it, the physical wherewithal, it takes. for him to elbow you in the chest. Yeah. Or any of those things.
Starting point is 00:20:46 He's coming down at an angle. He's giving, he's giving people the people's elbow to elbow. This is the beginning. And he went and kicked it with the mugs. That, by the way, his decision to go kicking with the mugs is definitely a litmus test of sorts of how we feel
Starting point is 00:21:05 about things based upon whether or not we like you. If Aaron Rogers had gone and taken that trip with the mugs, two years ago, we clown it. I'll be honest with you. If Aaron Rogers went to hang out with the monks, this year we might think it's okay. But Victor went to go hang out with the monks, and I'm like, oh, y'all better be,
Starting point is 00:21:22 y'all going to be in trouble now. This man is honing in that focus. Focus is a skill. Focus is a resource. He appears to be honing and stocking up at the same damn time. So, okay, he is physically unlike anything we have ever seen. He is out there.
Starting point is 00:21:42 hanging out with the monks. And if you saw the way that he reacted where France lost that silver medal game, his plan is to come to the United States and take it over in 2028. Like I feel like, or at least in my brain, I have concocted this full-on narrative, that that is the origin story
Starting point is 00:22:03 is going to be they lost that game at the crib. And he can't wait to come to these good old US of A and put the hurt on us at our, own crib in Las Vegas and then, let me not Las Vegas, Los Angeles. Oh my God, if they had the Olympics in Las Vegas, people would be missing events. Let's just start talking about something else. We've been talking a lot about the college football personnel cycle, coaching cycle, carousel. It's kind of moving, not fully moving, you know what I mean, but that's what we've been on. And we were trying to figure out, you know, topics to talk about today. Ryan was going back and
Starting point is 00:22:43 forth. And, you know, a general question that is often fun to ask is, what is the best job in college football? And for a while, it felt like the consensus answer was the University of Texas. Access to players, huge amounts of money. And while the boosters could be annoying, the pressure level on the job isn't nearly as high as I think was advertised. Florida was always up there, again for somewhat similar reasons, though the pressure game was a little bit different. I had always spoken for a long time about LSU because of the ceiling at LSU, the pressure not being Alabama level pressure. You know, that one was up there.
Starting point is 00:23:28 USC is a job that people have brought up. Ohio State is definitely one that comes up in the conversation. You know, Georgia, now that Atlanta seems to be the football epicenter. right like up there with Miami in terms of what's produced you know the types of players that it produces you know a lot of schools that had long been up for the discussion of what is the best job in college football and i think we now have a definitive answer for what job is the best one in college football and that answer is none of them they all stink you can get rich at all of them but at this point every single
Starting point is 00:24:11 job stinks. I think that we are reaching a point now where the career span of a coach is going to be more like coaching in the pros than coaching in college. Now look, we've long been in a place where you needed to start showing some real signs
Starting point is 00:24:38 and progress by years. three or you were going to be out of there, right? But getting fired at LSU after three seasons where you won 29 games and then a season with three losses to teams that are currently in the top 10. That's different. That is different. And I've got to wonder, And first of all, let me explain in part why I believe that we're at this place now where basically all these jobs are like kind of sort of the same and like not being good. You hear a lot of discussion about how NIL has leveled the playing field. And I don't fully agree with that. What I do think that the NIL era has done is it has raised the S&L.
Starting point is 00:25:38 ceiling on what is possible at certain schools. So, for example, the ceiling has changed at Texas Tech because it's more likely that they can get an amazing player or two and then put that together with some magic and, you know, a little scheming. And now this is a team that for whatever reason can be in the top 10 in ways that it had done before, but not, you know, come on, not real. I think that is what it is done. Now, the one thing I don't know, and Ryan, maybe you've read something about this, but Indiana is our great success case right now, but that does not feel like it is the
Starting point is 00:26:23 result of NIL greatness. Like maybe that's part of it, but it's still kind of Signetti and all these guys that he brought with him from James Madison. Yeah, that's transfer portal greatness. Yes. The NIL great. I wouldn't say greatness would probably be like something like Texas Tech is a good example. Like that, you know, that billionaire is clearly just putting infinite numbers into the roster.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I mean, Ohio State had the big roster figure when they won the national championship last year. But like the success, it used to be like year four was the expectation. Now it's going to be year two, year three because of the NIL and trip. And you could turn the roster over. Correct. So much faster. So much faster. But my thing is this, and I'm curious what you think about this,
Starting point is 00:27:07 I still think the jobs at which you can do the most winning are still going to be the jobs that were always the ones. Correct, the most consistent winning, I would agree. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I've seen the argument that the difference between Florida and Old Miss as a job is not that great, and you're never going to get me to believe that. Like, there's, there's, there's, it is more likely that Old Miss can put something together to give Florida a run.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Right. But you're not going to convince me. The gap is, I think the gap is smaller than it used to be, but I think that Florida is still Florida. Yeah, yeah. The best job in the country before Ohio State, I mean, before the NIL era was Ohio State. And it is now Ohio State and will continue to be Ohio State because, again, want to is the biggest factor here. And you will see the NIL stuff catch up. Some schools are going to be slow to get there.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But once they're going to realize, like Pat 40 talked about this to Florida State, all their allocation toward facilities. You spent money on facilities when you couldn't spend money on players because what you did was lure them to come to campus anymore. Now you pay them to come to campus so you don't do that. You know, like the best schools for winning out are going to be the same. The problem is everybody's going to expect to win now in a way that everybody did not expect to win before. And the expectation of winning for the schools at the top is going to be so much greater that none of these jobs are going to be good.
Starting point is 00:28:28 You saw in college basketball that once this era starts, started all the legends started walking away. Jay Wright, Mike Shosheskke, Roy Williams. I think there are more that we could point to who looked around and were like, hey, hey, baby, this ain't my kind of job. Nick Saban looked around and was like, hey, hey, I don't think this is what I want to do. I'd rather get up early and sit next to Pat McAfee than coach. Yeah, like we got to figure out this Archeson thing, the idea that his name was floating by the Titans and his representatives say absolutely that did not happen. However, that job seems really miserable to him right now. And I could understand how it would be. Patience is gone.
Starting point is 00:29:04 And the idea that you do a job that involves working with young people, but patience is not an option. That sounds really, really stressful. Right. You have to be patient, but you can't be patient. Like, how exactly are we supposed to get the job done under those circumstances? Probably the biggest recruit, the biggest named recruit in the last 25 years. Yes. They went to, you know, they did a national championship runner ups. They've had all success in the world and he seems very tired of it. Yes, all of it. Like, none of these jobs are good. What used to be the job to get is the job. Mark Stoops has at Kentucky, a basketball school where if you can win nine games every now and then, but keep it between seven and eight. Just don't be embarrassing. You can work there forever
Starting point is 00:29:46 and maybe they'll build a statue of you. Leonard Hamilton did that at Florida State in basketball, right? Just look, don't be bad. And every... everything will be okay. And I think those days are over. Like, I look at that dude Fleck at Minnesota, who's going to consistently give you eight, nine wins at Minnesota. How long is Minnesota going to look at Indiana and be like, hey, so what's you got? Matt Campbell at Iowa State, because, you know, someone who is rumored for, you know, pro jobs and pro jobs. And he's been, he's been stuck there forever. Now they might try and run him out of there. So, so let me ask you an interesting question about that one. No conference wants to look like it's small time, right?
Starting point is 00:30:25 Right. But I think that we all acknowledge. that the Big 12 is of the four, it is number four. Right. And this is with them trying to be forward thinking. They act like they're the small kid in town trying to get attention any way they can. They feel more like what the Big East was in the power blank, you know, the power six at that point. And the bottom line is they don't have the right real estate, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:30:52 They have schools in Texas, but Texas and Texas A&M are taking players to another conference. They're not. The real estate has never been great for the big eight slash 12. It never has been. And then the two best schools got out of there. Correct. But it's never been worse than it is now, right? Like, they don't have it.
Starting point is 00:31:12 They over there, I think that that's maybe the one place where you could have some more realistic expectations. Because you can only take this but so far out of this conference. You know, like that's my thought. but SEC Big 12, all those jobs are bad. If Vanderbilt is out here holding together a top 10 season, your job just got bad anywhere around there because nobody's trying to hear that you can't do it. If Indiana is a top five school,
Starting point is 00:31:41 nobody's trying to hear where you are that you can't do it. Like, you're going to get your check at these jobs. You are going to. But I don't even know really what a personnel market looks like if these coaches are going to be really getting tossed out here after three, four, five years. Like sometimes a rebuild is supposed to take two, three years. I don't even know how you're supposed to build the culture that's supposed to be the important thing
Starting point is 00:32:03 if the players are turning over so fast. Like none of this is going to make any sense. None of it is. Are we going to start rotating younger coaches in more? Is it just going to be a longer lifespan of retreads? Because you're going to need somebody that can get this up and going off the ground immediately. Can you afford to take the time to go through some growing pains? Case in point, Marcus Freeman, there were some growing pains in getting there.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But they got there. He dropped some bad games. He did. But that's going to happen. Do you remember when Davoswini was terrible? Yes. Like the old takes exposed guy who generally doesn't bother me except when he's talking about me. But anyway, he used to go, he used to go harvest all the dabbo takes.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And I'm like, brother, were you there? Like this was not a bad. This was like talking about Josh Allen early in his career. No, no, no, no, no, no. I was at the game where that flipped. was the LSU Klimbson, Tage, Boyd throw it up to DeAndre Hopkins game.
Starting point is 00:32:59 That's right. That's right. But Daubo was doing, it takes time for a young coach to get there. How hard is it going to be for those young coaches to get the time to turn the roster around? Like, this is about to hurdle
Starting point is 00:33:15 out of control in so many ways. And the only thing that'll make it okay or somewhat interesting is that college football's most wonderful, entertaining quality is chaos. It's just going to be even more chaotic. I know that's not a word. I was trying to be cute.
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Starting point is 00:35:00 Dotrackings.com slash promos. All right, Bo, let's get to some other stories. Monday night football last night. Chiefs dominated a weird Monday night football game. Seven, seven and a half ends up 28 to seven. Patrick Mahomes throwing three touchdown passes. Bo, what was your takeaway? I mean, look, the commandos are out there without Jane Daniels.
Starting point is 00:35:24 So there is that. But guys, the chiefs are a problem. That is our takeaway from that is, the Chiefs are a problem. They are now coming in at 5 and 3, and it's like all that other stuff never happened. The Colts have the best point differential in the AFC, though they are beaten bums every week. Second best is the Chiefs. Number three, by the way,
Starting point is 00:35:51 is the Patriots who are also beating bums. I don't know if you have looked at the teams who the Patriots have beaten. Did you see any of Dylan Gabriel on Sunday? he is bad it's that bad it is i mean it is he i mean like i think he looks like someone's little brother out there you know you know what has to be the brown's biggest fear so that year in 2011 were the broncos and they were oh and three i guess it was and they were so bad and the fans i know i know where you're going the fans were calling for tim tbo and i am convinced that John Fox was like, fine.
Starting point is 00:36:31 You want me to play them, put him in the game. Kind of like when a saving bench Millrow for that game and put in, was it, was it Ty Simpson? I can't remember who it was they threw in there, who wasn't ready and he went back to Milro, but I'm convinced that John Fox knew, just thought, fine, he'll go out there, he'll stink. And then magic happened, right?
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah. And it just kept rolling. That is Kevin Stifaskey's giant fear in Cleveland. Is that it'll be like, fine. You watch your door, push your door, in the game and he'll go out there and at once not be good but the team will be better. Right. That is what I think he's terrified of.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I mean, if they could throw, they're on their by. They can throw him out against the Jets and beat the Jets. Yeah. Hey, man. Jets had to feel good win over the weekend. Yeah. It was, uh, so you know, you come out and you beat the Jets, the Shador, we might get Shador Mania. Oh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:37:25 I'm not, I'm not prepared. I told you, man. Them kids at Dayton asked me, why should, door wasn't playing and I said he wasn't good enough and I was about to pull me off the stage. You said they were going to throw tomatoes at you. Yeah, I lost the room, man. I lost the room right there. I mean, like, it really got rough. I had to, I had to give him the two hands. Easy. All right. In international news, they have, the police have made arrest in the jewelry heist that happened last week at the Louvre. It is not immediately clear if the police have
Starting point is 00:37:58 recovered any of the stool on jewelry, which is worth over $100 million. Bo, we talked about the story a couple weeks ago. What were your thoughts? Hey, man, I don't know all the rules over there in them other countries. And I don't always know how closely movies tie to real life. However, you say they don't know where them jewels are. I tell you what jewels, they know how to find your family jewels. They will be kicking.
Starting point is 00:38:38 You'll be getting kicked into nuts until we get into some answers. Don't you worry. Yeah, and France, it don't really take kindly to you stealing from the loof. Yo, that is, one thing that was interesting. They got away with it like it was the movies, but there was never a moment where I did not know. They come in a fine jaw. Don't you worry. You will be caught. There is no, talk about an APB. I'd tell you this. You did you see
Starting point is 00:39:06 that picture of that dude they showed dressed like Sherlock Holmes? Yeah. That was on the case. I was like, damn, y'all still do that over here? He must be good at his job because otherwise we'd have laughed you out the building. You go and dress like that if you're like if you're the elite of the elite. You got to be who you say you are, dog. All right. And finally, a lot has been made of the East Wing being demolished at the White House to make way for Trump's ballroom. The East Wing, of course, originally built in the 1900s now has been replaced for a 90,000 square foot, $300 million ballroom. Bo, what was your take? Got to be honest with you guys.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I'll give a damn what they do to that house. I have been amazed. Not that there are people offended by the idea of it. these changes to the White House. It is who some of the people are who are offended by some of these changes to the White House. Like, this is a clear testament to the only part that matters to you is who is the one who's doing it. I grew up with people who was like, man, they need to paint the White House black. Do you know what I'm saying? And I've been like, hell yeah. Okay, you want to knock knock some walls down and put in a ballroom? It seems silly. It's probably a waste of money. That part kind of
Starting point is 00:40:26 touches me, but like the actual changes to the White House, I don't care. They might change the White House all the time. I have absolutely, no, no, no, no idea. I don't, if that's what he wants to do, he could do it. The only problem is, it's going to be tech. It's a, you could say, you know, you could find, you know, a lot of things to say about it. I think everyone can agree. It's going to be at minimum ostentatious. Look bad. We have a good, we have a good, we have a good sense of what Trump style is. Yes. Now, the problem is going to be for whoever the next president is, who's like, we're
Starting point is 00:41:02 never going to use that room because it looks so ridiculous. Like, that room going to look like something off the cover of a No Limit Records album cover from 1998. Like, it is definitely going to look like Penn and Pixel Productions was brought in. By the way, Ryan, I don't know if you know, but some of the no-limit soldiers, or they're more like the No Limit ROTC, or
Starting point is 00:41:26 perhaps the No Limit National Guard. But anyway, a lot of volunteer officers in the No Limit Armed Forces were upset that I said that No Limit was more of a regional brand than cash money, which became a bigger national brand. And I don't think
Starting point is 00:41:44 they understood. I kind of meant that as a compliment. Well, here's what I tell you, is that you throw on some No Limit now in places where people aren't expecting no limit. Not everybody going to know what you doing. Correct. You throw back that ass up on, everybody's going to know what you're doing. Like, no limit got a bunch of dudes. You got to be like, yo, you remember Fien? And Fien was cold, right? Or you remember Mac? Question mark. It was a lot more of them too, but you got to do like a you
Starting point is 00:42:11 remember blank. You ain't got to do that with the cash money do, right? But it happened in part because no limit set up the world that allow for cash money to jump off of the shoulders of what they had done. I have to explain to my friends who I meet and who aren't from Louisiana what no limit is. Everyone knows what back that ass up is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, it's a certain chain of circumstances. Before that, versus, I was here and break them off, something hit me, and I was like, oh, yeah, this is different.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, like, this hits me in a, this don't belong to everybody kind of way. So anyway, stand down. You know what I'm saying? Stand down. All right, Bo. Got some more voicemails we didn't get to Monday. Here's our first one. Hey, Momani.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So a couple years back, I put in a waste mail on the topic of why I'm not a fan of the draft and salary caps and all of that and I said that as a fan where most of my friends didn't like the idea that I was against them and you said no, that's a great
Starting point is 00:43:15 idea that there shouldn't be a draft, there shouldn't be a salary cap. So my question is what's the way to implement that? Because maybe I'm biased growing up here in New York City where I'm a big Yankee fan, was a big fan of Jordan and of these like really successful teams. And I just see all this talk of parody and Saturday casts and drafts is just watering down the competition to ensure fairness when I thought
Starting point is 00:43:40 we live in a capitalist society. Why are we not trying to ensure the maximum amount of talent and greatness in our sports now is when we care about fairness? And so how can we get this world where we can get rid of salary caps and just focus on making teams as great as possible, regardless of whether it's money, smart management, or anything like that. I'd love to know how you see that vision happening. Thanks for the time. I mean, the unions have to fight back and get it. That's all it comes down to.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And the dilemma is the sport without a salary cap is baseball. And without a salary cap there also is not a salary floor. And so we just have team after team after team in baseball underspending. And you have these free agent years. well, wow, everybody's getting the same exact contract. I wonder how that has happened in a sport where they've been busted for collusion, I believe, multiple times.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But that's the issue is just a matter of the pushback. Now, the thing with the draft is, the draft does not exist to create parity. The draft exists to suppress wages. Like, that's what the whole point of it is. The parity part is kind of a secondary facet of what it is. But no, labor has to be able to push back to make it happen.
Starting point is 00:44:57 And as of now, no league has decided that that is something that they want to do or find to be important. They think that having, and with the cap, they think that having the floor is more important than having the high ceiling. But they're the ones that's got to make it happen. Ain't nothing we can do about it at this point. The argument is the draft is anti-American. It is. You're asking what is the argument and how do you, like, that is how you frame the argument. I just can't imagine somebody looking at me and being like,
Starting point is 00:45:26 Hey, brother, you're on your way to Salt Lake City. Hey, Bo, how's Milwaukee sound? Yeah, but I mean, like, I mean, they did that to NBA young boy. Like, I ain't, what I do. You know? Come on now. All right, here's our next one. Hey, Bo. This is CB from Texas, documentary Shamar Moore Hater.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Got a question for you. What's your opinion? The stone lady cab driver to me, by Prince is the, knowing that he played all the instruments, is probably the greatest musical masterpiece that Prince ever did. If you listen to the music on the song, to me, it's the greatest musical masterpiece. I'd like to know your opinion. Thank you, sir.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Oh, man, I'm not the greatest at, like, when you started getting into ESTs. Like, there aren't that many superlatives that I am absolutely on. Now, I guess musical masterpiece, I guess he's talking about just instrumentally, like the coldest thing that to me Prince ever did was like as a concept as an idea when Dobs Cry is the one like oh nobody else could have even come up with this let alone done it. I think like the most Prince of all Prince songs is if I was your girlfriend like on a number of levels it's like okay nobody nobody else is like getting here of making this happen. but just like a masterpiece in terms of the music, huh?
Starting point is 00:47:00 That is a tricky one for me to come up with. I don't think that lady cab driver is it, but I'm going to let it stand because I need more time to think about it. I don't mean to stump you with these voicemails, you know, but best friends. That's a fun one. No, no, no, no. Best friends is always getting in there. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Like that is a really, really fun one. Now, if you're talking about the ones where you're saying masterpiece, especially just because of the fact that he played all of the instruments, huh. That could be a few different ones. But Lady Cab Driver, honestly, is not the one that jumped out to me as like, oh, we got to have that one. The trick bag on it is, Purple Rain,
Starting point is 00:47:42 the only songs on there that he did, I want to say entirely by himself, are the beautiful ones when Doves Cry and Darling Nikki. Like, the rest of the bills are band records. but there's some serious music. For sure. All right, here's our last one. Hey, Beaumai.
Starting point is 00:47:58 This is Alex from Detroit. I haven't missed an episode in a little over 10 years of the right time or the evening Jones. Anyway, I don't necessarily have a question, but I just wanted to call in to relive one of my favorite moments from the show, which was you emphatically and immediately
Starting point is 00:48:13 being the only person to call out Ryan Lockheed for clearly not actually being pistol-wifted at a gas station in Brazil during the 2016 Olympics. He was on a full-on heroic PR tour for allegedly getting robbed at a gas station, which, in fact, it turned out he had actually vandalized himself. And as far as I know, there was only one man in the entire media landscape who knew that was an outrageous lie upon first listen, and I think it's worth remembering. So anyways, I think about that a lot, and it makes me laugh. So thanks for a decade of thought-provoking entertainment.
Starting point is 00:48:48 shout out Shannon, shout out the whole ship. The whole ship! Ryan, you know about the whole ship? I do not know about the whole ship. Oh, man, it just dawned on me that we'll have people who don't know about the whole ship. And so I'll share the whole ship here. And if my mama want to turn this off right now, she can,
Starting point is 00:49:08 but it's a pretty funny story. So this is a legendary one. I've been telling this story for 15 years. It never gets old. Okay. So my man's was at work one day. He was younger. Now, he's my age. This is like 20 years ago. No, it's not, it was not 20 years ago. He told me this story in 2009, because I remember I sat on it for two years before I told it in public. And I had held on to it because he's like, oh, you can't tell the story in public. I said, okay. And then after I told it, I told him. And he was like, yo, you really held onto that for a long time. And I'm proud of you. So anyway, this guy was at work. And old heads were talking about getting divorced and the reasons they got divorced. And one of them was talking about how, um, It would say his name is Johnny, right?
Starting point is 00:49:52 And Johnny was talking about how he had a woman and she used to work on a cruise ship. All right. And something happened and he started feeling like it was some shenanigans going on on this ship. And then one day she came off the ship and the phone rang and he picked up. And keep in mind, this is 20-something years ago. So this is probably pre-caller ID, all this stuff. Anyway, he answered the phone and somebody on the other end with a name, quote, like Jaime or Esteban or something, unquote, says,
Starting point is 00:50:25 where's Gloria? And so he's like, whoa, what's going on here? And so this man like bugged the phone at the house. Because he's trying to figure out what happened. But he also then kind of like stopped thinking about it or whatever, you know. That was weird and moved on of his day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And something happened.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And he said, you know what? I'm going to listen to the bug on the phone. And so Gloria on the phone And she's talking to her mama And she's like I don't know I'm just It feels like Johnny knows
Starting point is 00:51:00 I'm nervous I don't I mean Oh my God What's he gonna do when he finds out I'm fucking the whole ship Incredible I don't know what it is About the three
Starting point is 00:51:34 Count the three words the whole ship. But it just... It's very funny. It hits really hard. Yes. Like, whoa. That is a simple yet descriptive.
Starting point is 00:51:49 It's good writing. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's impactful. That's, that's, that was the end, by the way, of the, the, the relationship. She was on the boat when he heard this, when she returned home, it had to, the whole, the whole. ship. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this three, sometimes four times a week. My man Ryan Brumley handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Remember, hit the voicemail line. 3,2, 3,000, 6776767. Let us hear from you. 3, 2, 3, 9, 6, 76767. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us,
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