The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Spencer Hall on NIL, Carson Beck's Stolen Cars, and the President of Argentina | 2.21
Episode Date: February 21, 2025On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones is joined by Spencer Hall, host of the Shutdown Fullcast podcast, to mainly discuss NIL money in College Football. But first the guys talk about Spen...cer's time at a Checkers in Florida (5:47) and why the President of Argentina made the entire country purchase a meme coin before it crashed. (9:20) Then, they get into Carson Beck transferring to Miami for the NIL money but getting 3 cars stolen from his house (20:23) and why college athletes with massive NIL deals should learn the magnitude of taxes. (32:44) The show rounds out with Bo and Spencer joking about Billy Joel's dating life and the musical group DeBarge. (41:20) . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Support the Show: PrizePicks: Daily Fantasy Made Easy! Visit PrizePicks.com/BOMANI and use code BOMANI for a first deposit match up to $100! Visit BetterHelp.com/BOMANI today to get 10% off your first month. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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It is Spencer Hall Friday.
Spencer Hall for Channel 6.
What's going on, man?
Hey, I like that there may be one person.
Because I was assuming a crowd.
There's somebody who doesn't know anything.
Like one person who does not know anything.
So they might know that it's Dominate.
It's usually Foxworth Friday.
Yes.
But then they see me.
But this person not knowing anything out of your hundreds of thousands of listeners,
boat, they would go, wow, that's Dominique Foxworth?
That is not what I expected.
And I could come on your show.
And for that person, I could immediately begin making actionable threats on the part of Dominic
Foxworth, right?
I could be like, I carried Ed Reed all those years.
I said it.
Me, Dominic Foxworth.
Ray Lewis, I could take him in a fight.
That's right.
me, Dominic Foxworth, saying that I could fight Rayloos. I wrote all his speeches. I'm actually
Serenau. Yeah, that's me. I'm the magic behind the Ravens. Quote me. Domining Foxworth. That's right,
me. And then give my Twitter handle. And then Dominique wakes up and he's like, what did this man do to me?
Like, when did I start carrying Champ Bailey? Like, how in the world? How in the world did that happen?
I met Champ at the Hall of Fame. That's Hall of Fame, the Super Bowl. I saw him there. And I
I have to say, Champ, Dominique speaks very highly a champ, and I feel like everything he's
saying is correct because champ, I don't know if he listens to the right time, but he listens to Foxworth
Friday. And I'm like, that's a good friend right there. That's absolutely, right? I show up where you
show up, right? That's, again, this is why he was a great teammate, though. You know how good you
have to be at whatever your thing is to be however old champ is, which I feel like is a little bit
older than me? And we're still calling you champ, like to the point where people don't know what
his actual name is, I believe it is
Roland, and he got a brother named Boss.
Can we get, my favorite thing
when you chain names together
is this where you have three kids.
Champ, boss.
Bo, do you know the name of the third Bailey, brother?
I forgot the third. I remember it was something, though.
Well, we have a champ and a boss, so it's got to be
outlandish, right? No.
Rule of three. Champ, boss, and Ron.
Nothing stuck. Nothing stuck.
What did they try?
And they just all landed on a rod, right?
Or at one point did Ron just say, look, I just want to be Ron?
Yeah.
No, guys, that's all extra.
Just I'm old Ron.
Or or or or is there a name that they call Ron at the crib that Ron did not want to come outside?
Like, you're just not going to convince me that they call him Ron.
If the other two are champ and boss, you're not going to convince me that they call him Ron at the house.
They call him something else at the house.
And he finally moved away where he could.
stop being whatever it is, boo-boo or whatever they decided to call him and he could finally
just go ahead and be a Ron. Yeah. And he's the one who has to come out and go, guys, if you could just
call me Ron. I'm going by Ron now. Just call me that. Yes. No. And the problem that happens
for Ron is, Eric, after Ron brings somebody to the house, you're not Ron anymore. Like this happens
with my brother. We call my brother by his middle name. He's one thing out there. But once you come to
the crib for a little while, you ride with the middle name. That's what it's going to be. Yeah. And then you
got to be flexible enough. I feel bad for that because like I got one name. Right. And generally I
would be, people are weird about their names. I would prefer to just be called, hey, you. I don't,
you know, like the name. I assume when somebody says my name, they want something. Yes. You know,
like, like, hey, Spencer, nice to meet you. And I'm like, time share. You're about to sell me time share.
About to ask for some money. You're about to, you want something from me. Right. But if you're a person who has
multiple names. You've got to be flexible in that. I feel, I feel bad for those people. I think that's a
hard way to go through life. Yeah, it is a situational. Like, I got Bow and Beaumani, which on one hand
feel very similar. But on the other hand, nobody calls me Beaumani at the house. I'm
bow at the house. Like, you call me Beaumonti at the house, like something weird has happened. I
don't know what's going on. But the problem is, for whatever reason, these six letters and three
syllables, they'd be putting people in a tizzy boy, they don't know what to do. So they skip straight to
And I'm like, no, player, you got to earn that.
You got to get there.
No way.
Don't get familiar.
Don't do it.
Internet gives this illusion that I know you and you know me.
And I would like to disabuse you of that.
Yeah, I'm big on that.
I'm big on that.
I realized that I started early in my career with the idea of using the internet to show people
that I am like you and it's like you know me.
And then that reached a point where it became unwieldy.
And I decided to make sure at every turn I could to let me.
you know, you actually do not know me.
And I need you to stop acting like you do.
Yeah, I had a guy the other day who, so I was involved in, uh, internet fracas on blue sky.
I understand you are not on blue sky.
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
I didn't know that I didn't know that fray guy took place on blue sky.
So, uh, there's a word you don't use on your show.
And I got called that word, um, by somebody who, and I think they were, they were mostly joking.
This is like, I would, if I had to give you.
What it was, I'm like a 90-10 joke. 90% joke, 10%.
Ah, I'm thinking about it.
Anyway, there was one of these fast food graphics that was like,
which fast food do you not want, right?
It's kind of engagement bait, but whatever, it's fast food, it's fun.
And I spoke disparagingly of a chain called Checkers.
Checkers.
Now, if you don't know, Checkers is a, I believe a Florida-based chain.
I became familiar with it when I lived there by eating it three times in a row
and never eating it again for the rest of my life.
because it was the only place that was near our apartment we lived in while we were waiting for our house.
The checkers conundrum to me is this, that you can eat it and it tastes okay.
And then about five minutes later, you want to die.
Tell me about your neighborhoods, sir, because I've never seen the checkers.
This was a checkers in the parking lot of a public's US 19.
So it was probably the most Floridian place in the world is the checkers.
that is in the publics on US 19 in northern Pinellas County,
which if you don't know US 19,
it's like New Jersey,
but hot,
okay?
Like 20 lane highway that's not a 20 lane highway that's residential somehow.
And occasionally when my day had ladies in thongs selling hot dogs on the side of it.
Oh,
yeah.
To get to my house,
I had to tell people to turn right at the phone sex line.
Billboard.
That was where I went.
this was not a sketchy neighborhood.
This is just how things resulted in Florida.
I didn't know they put checkers in unscetchy neighborhoods.
I had no idea.
No, big phone sex billboard.
Turn right at that.
And then my house was about like a quarter mile down on the left.
That was it.
Okay.
Had a fountain in front of it and everything.
Right.
But yeah,
that kind of neighborhood.
So I ate checkers and I disparaged checkers on the internet.
I made a mistake, Bo.
Because somebody said,
be careful.
calling me this word that I definitely can't say on your show and that you usually don't.
And or you'll end up on a t-shirt because I disrespected checkers.
If you're listening to this, by the way, ending up on a t-shirt, I assumed, by the way, everyone knew what that meant.
It's another thing where two Americas, you got to crack out, ending up on a t-shirt, there are people in the audience.
Again, same people who don't, might not know anything.
Right? So I'm talking to you. Me, Spencer Hall, not Dominique Foxworth, right?
They said that I would end up on a T-shirt. A lot of people don't know. They'd be like,
oh, you end up on a T-shirt. That's probably good, right? That's no. No, that's a memorial t-shirt.
That's the kind of t-shirt that at traditionally African-American funerals is an indicator of a tribute
to this person. You ever seen the video for slow motion, juvenile in the late soldier's
Lou? Yeah. That. That was where I was put hypothetically by somebody who was that honked off at me talking mess about checkers.
Yeah. And it's funny because I was thinking you might end up on a T-shirt going to checkers.
Like that's that's that's a possibility. Yeah, that was that was my thought. Let me tell you something interesting also about that that word that you describe.
And by the way, Spencer and I are like, what are we going to talk about on this show? And suddenly it all comes together.
I was in my lection
with my professor
of Spanish
Shee
Shea
She said a story
about the president of
Argentina
And crypto monera
Oh,
Oh,
The funny money
Yeah
Oh, yes,
Yes,
you say
You know
The history?
Yes,
Okay, so
But those of you
Who don't know this story
The president
of Argentina came out and told his whole country.
Just in case you think we're the only crazy people in the world,
he came out and told his whole country to buy a meme coin
and that the value of this meme coin was going to go way up.
He told them to do that and this is going to shock you.
But after saying that the value of said coin skyrocketed as people bought it.
And then sudden,
crash to the ground.
Now, those of you who are familiar with that world know the term and those who are not,
it's called a rug pull.
And basically what you should assume is anytime somebody says, hey, we got a new coin out here,
they're going to get money in that coin.
And then they're going to sell all that they have in said coin.
And then the value of the coin is going to plummet.
This is what happened in Argentina.
And as you might expect, la gente, la gente, you know,
no is felis
sobre your president
okay
they're not pleased
with the president
so as I was getting ready
to record this show
I see a story
a dude named Tommy
Viator I think that's his name
anyway he linked to something
from Coin Desk
they got text messages
from the creator
of the funny money
and he is
explaining how
you know basically
what was going on here
and why he would be cool
this is the text from CoinDest
In text messages reviewed by coin decks, Hayden Davis, Hayden, H-A-Y-D-E-N, just so we're clear,
CEO of Kelsey Aventures claimed he could, quote, control Millie, who's the president of Argentina,
because of payments he had been making to Karina Millie, a powerful figure in Malayi's government,
not to mention the president's sister.
Quote from the text message, I control that in-word.
I send money to his sister and he sides whatever I say, it does what I want.
Yes.
And if you know anything about Argentina, they don't even got black people on the soccer team.
So I googled up a picture of the president of Argentina.
And guess what?
He is as white as this cup I am sipping tea from.
And then I looked up the president of the creator of the coin, the guy hating.
And I mean, I knew where that was going.
But he was, he was at once not, did not look at all like a hating,
but was also even whiter than I expected.
A couple things here.
One, you should know that this guy is a libertarian.
Okay.
Yes.
I understand and respect libertarianism as an impulse, but as a philosophy.
When somebody says, we would like to unleash the power of the market.
spread your cheeks.
That's what that means.
Like what I want to say to the people of Argentina is,
Un Libertariano.
Condolito?
No.
Crime?
That's what libertarianism.
That's like, hey, guys, you know, crime?
Is it really so bad?
Yeah, yeah, that's what it is.
What I'd like to do is unleash the power of the market.
You're like, where's my purse?
Where's my wallet?
This should tell you everything you need to know about that.
I had this thought about like Adam Smith, the wealth of nations, right? And for those
you who are unfamiliar, the wealth of nations is like a foundational text in economics. That by the
way, it's hard to find people who have actually read. We just discuss it in the place that it took
in history and where it's spread out. It kind of lays the foundation for the way most modern,
we'll say, Western economists have thought for a while, right? And the argument, and it's a
supporting argument for libertarianism and everybody else who's on the market will take care of it,
is the idea that there will be an invisible hand that will guide allocations into the right
places and everything will settle into some sort of equilibrium, basically. And I don't know why.
It wasn't until like a couple of years ago that it dawned on me what the invisible hand was.
Let go and let God. Like when you don't have an answer for how this thing is supposed to work,
you just let go and let God.
Like, they couldn't say, though, don't worry, God will take care of it because that sounds too
much like a con.
But you call it the invisible hand and people are like, hold on, hold on.
Mm-hmm.
Hear them out.
Yeah.
Now, let me tell you why you shouldn't let anyone do this, okay, a second reason.
Because I don't know, maybe we get in a philosophical discussion, a disagreement about this.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I want you to pass the eye test.
Go pull over if you're in the car right now, okay?
Just go find a nice safe space.
I don't want you to do this while you're driving.
If you're sitting at home, I want you to either open your phone or open a new tab while you're listening to this.
Okay.
Go Google what the president of Argentina looks like.
Yes.
And then I want you to ask yourself, who would give this man money?
Hold on, hold on.
And call him the N-word.
Yeah.
Look at him.
Look at him.
Look at those sideburns.
That's not a trustworthy individual.
That's a guy who in an X-Man movie is trying to get a satellite that's going to destroy the world.
That's what that looks like.
Y'all elected him.
You knew what he looked like.
And you did that anyway.
I'm an American.
I can say that because we just did it too.
Yes.
And by the way, speaking of that and what they have in common, it looks like, it looks like the guy that will sell you a meme coin, which, by the way, our president and his,
wife. Yep. Have done.
Yep. Have done. A colleague of ours got hacked and it appeared that she was pushing a meme
coin and buddy, I was in a real tough place there because I didn't know, I didn't know what was
going on. Did you have to clarify? I didn't know what to ask. I didn't know what to do, but I was
just like, I hope I've never, I don't, I don't know the last time I believed that somebody was hacked,
but I was rooting for it. And I believe that hacking is what to take.
place because I needed to believe it. Nobody, no decent person is trying to sell you a beam coin at this
point, not a single one. I was trying to think of like how I know you would be hacked.
Like if I looked like, you know I was hacked if it was like, hey man, y'all need to go listen to this
Bob Dylan record. That's a sign that I have been kidding. Yes. Oh, there's a few. There's a few for me.
Yeah. You know, I have been hacked if I am telling you you got to go hear that new Drake.
you know I've been hacked if I'm saying that I hope that they make Strangamandela, the New James Bond.
I've been rooting for racism against that for the longest.
And if he gets it, I'm going to be rooting for the commies.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, I've been, I've been there.
I think those are two big ones.
I'm with you.
If I'm extolling the virtues of a Drake song, I've been in the car with you playing a Drake song.
And what do I do the minute he goes on?
That skip, right?
You let Rick Ross do his verse and then you immediately skip.
I have seen this.
I've literally seen this happen before.
Yeah.
Like you only live twice, right?
Like that's like a great song until Drake comes on.
Usually by the way, for a comedic effect, I'll let him go.
Yeah.
Like to see when he starts and then I'll skip it.
Yeah.
Skip.
Speaking of hack, different kind of hack, gets us to a sports place, a college sports place.
This is where you live and reside and where I casually dabble.
Carson Beck, who was the quarterback at Georgia, he will now.
I'll be the quarterback in Miami.
He went there in large part because those twin girls who, I mean, I got to be real about
this, I am fascinated by how much these Cavender twins actually appear to care about basketball
because there is no reason that they have to care about basketball at this point.
If I held up a picture of them and told you that they were famous influencers,
you'd never believe that basketball was their bag.
But they're playing basketball at the University of Miami and Carson Beck is dating one of them.
And so he went down there to play.
and first of all, I'd be so skeptical.
I mean, and I've seen some Miami people get mad to me about this.
I can't tell you how skeptical I'd be of an NIL payment coming from Miami
because I would imagine that it might be in funny money, funded by funny money.
It'd be a guy who looked like the president of Argentina sent me the money.
Yeah.
That is correct.
It wasn't the guy that was originally funding their whole operation that Ruiz dude.
Didn't he get popped for something or at the very least ensnared in something?
He was involved.
John Muce was involved in a in a, in a,
shares worth this much, shares actually worth this much situation, right?
Did it involve a hospital?
I do not know about the hospital.
Okay.
That may be a secondary story.
The one that I can call to mine off the top of my head is, is valuations of company being
X when in fact they were Y and why was significantly less than X.
Hold on.
Headline, quote, substantial doubt, unquote, over company of Miami Booster.
Correct.
And if you, and I've told people this.
before. Okay, this is what it was. The company is called Life Wallet. It was a large scale medical
claims company. So I was in the, I was a very Miami story and nothing. The Sunday Miami Herald has the
potential to be the most amazing collection of stories that you have ever heard on. And that's what I
learned in four years of living there. It's like, like Billy Corbyn. Billy Corbyn's got the easiest
job in the world. Go pick up a random Miami Herald from any year between 1975 and now. And there's a
documentary right there waiting on you. I promise.
That is, that's another sign, by the way, that you should immediately exit the rooms when somebody
says, a medical billing company in Florida, walk out. You don't want to hear anything. I have a
client. Okay, so I get these stories a lot about South Florida from a friend of mine who is an attorney
down there. And he had someone walk into his father's office. His father was also an attorney
before him. And he walked into the office with this suitcase full of cash. I mean a cartoon
suitcase full of cash. And the guy walks in cold to the law office, walks past the secretary,
goes to the guy's desk, puts down the briefcase and says, it's $400,000. This is in the 80s. He goes,
there's $400,000 in this briefcase. And the attorney goes, stop, turn around, walk out of my office.
Because that's just how Florida is. You're like, I don't want, this is how, this is an episode of
Breaking Bad. And I don't want to be the dead lawyer at the end.
You need to walk out of my office.
That happens all the time.
You were the first person to tell me this Carson Beck story, by the way.
Yes.
So you got the joy of watching my face.
Yes.
So we have to now give this to other people.
This is where college sports are.
Overnight, Carson Beck and his girlfriend had three cars parked at their home.
All of them stolen.
Cavender's SUV, they found that.
However, Bex cars, the Lamborghini and the Mercedes, still out there, still waiting to be found.
And Spencer, he's not even good.
Why didn't you have them in a garage?
If I have a lamp.
You're, you're rid?
Yeah.
Now I know why.
Because you're what, 22?
Yes.
That's the answer.
Yeah.
obviously it's a car i can leave it outside it's a Lamborghini sir you need to put that inside because you know
who else is looking for it everyone else that's well my guess is they still want to live where college
students live which is typically places that don't have garages because they're college students
or worse you know what's in the garage they're like well we got the beer pong table set up in
the garage and i don't want to move it so i'll just keep the lambo outside
Well, they must have been gone, right?
Like, I need to know more about how somebody,
and it must have been a ring of people
that can steal three of your cars.
Yeah.
Three of you, without, like,
do you not have alarms?
I have so many questions about how,
or was it these, you've seen this,
that they pop these Chilean dudes?
Apparently it was a whole Chilean gang
that was out here robbing these athletes
all across the country.
I did not know Chile was getting down like this,
but it leaves lots of questions.
But these ring of Chileans,
got Joe Burrow, got Bobby Portis,
you name them.
Those cats that was getting robbed,
apparently this rig of Chileans was there.
Did they get up on Carson Lode and think,
it's going to be Carson Beck
and thought they had found the mother load?
I have a dangerous suggestion
for how they got those cars,
Bo.
The keys were in them.
The fob was in them.
That's my first guess
as to how they stole those cars.
Because, again, how old?
22?
23.
Oh, I'll just leave it in there.
It'll be fine.
Who will steal a Lamborghini in Miami?
That's the other thing.
Still a Lamborghini in Miami?
Awesome idea.
You know why?
How are you going to notice it?
Right.
How are you going to notice it?
Two kinds of cars in Miami.
One, it's an Ultima with the bumper half falling off and a Miami-day community college
bumper sticker on it.
That's the first kind of car in Miami.
The second kind of car in Miami is the Lamborghini.
That's it.
You get one or the other.
You're just assigned it.
Okay.
Who's going to notice?
It's one of the few places where you could steal a Lamborghini,
and it wouldn't be, well, we can obviously find it, right?
Like, okay, you go to Kansas State.
Let's say there's some big corn billionaire, okay,
who's just throwing NIL money around it at Kansas State.
Some guy who's in beef who's like, yeah, I'll give you a Lamborghini.
You know how many Lamborghinis there are in Manhattan, Kansas?
Like three.
If, right?
Like, that's how I am when I go back to North Carolina,
and I see somebody pushing a car like that.
If you give me just a minute,
I can whittle it down and figure out who this is.
It won't take me that long.
Yeah, you can do that.
In Miami, you know how many people have Lamborghinis?
Everyone.
There's tons of them because we've discussed this before.
There's two kinds of people in Miami.
Regular people and the people who don't have jobs, right?
What do you do?
One of the most interesting questions you can ask somebody from Miami.
What do you do?
Yeah, I got like eight jobs.
How many of them are real?
What do you really do?
Like, what do you do?
You need to add the important last,
three words for a living.
For a living. Because what do I do? I mean, I do this.
I do a lot of different things. I do things. But I have to admit, and maybe I'm old.
I do find it a little bit distasteful that a not even good quarterback is out here pushing cars like this.
I don't know if I find it distasteful. I don't know if that's the appropriate term,
but my mind is absolutely blown. And see, this is the one thing I would say, that there's like two words, two worlds.
I think of people receiving NIL money.
Because number one, I think there's a lot of dudes who are getting this money and all that money's going back to the crib.
Because you and I both, well, I don't know, you went to a slightly different school than I did.
There's a lot of people.
And I don't think people, I don't think people who grew up like I grew up, which is to say fairly well, have a great idea of how many people at that age range are getting money and sending it back home.
Right.
Like I think there's a lot of people who's in IL money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty high number.
And all that money is going back.
Right.
It's like the people who now currently pay their parents bills.
Like if you don't have to do this, you don't realize how many people are actually like living that life and constantly sending that money back.
But then there's number two, people whose parents don't need any money from them.
And those people are going to do what people that age typically do, regardless of what some of money you give them.
You give them $5,000, you give them $500,000, you give them $50,000.
You know what they're going to do?
Spend every die.
Yeah.
And not pay their taxes.
This is the Shaq lesson, right?
Jack's famous lesson.
Well, I bought a car for you.
from my mom, then I bought a car for my dad, then I bought a car for me.
Then the IRS called, right?
And that's why he will sell anything, right?
Because he went, because he spent his whole signing bonus and then went, oh, no, oh, no, I have no money.
Yes.
Back is interesting because I think this is indicative.
I know a lot of people are going to go, wow, this is just, dude, and I, yeah, the players.
I can't, but, okay, that's cool.
What you're looking at is something position specific, because we,
never give up on quarterbacks, and I think that's actually a good thing, okay? Because don't think of
it's college football. This is a semi-pro team that is now shelling out for the most important
position. There was a team in Florida last year that had a price point, and they were trying to
decide what their pain point was, right, on that price point. They go, oh, I don't know, do we pay
for it? Do we give Cam Ward money, or do we give DJ Uyongolalee way less money and we'll be fine?
We'll make it work. Florida State went two and ten because they cheaped out on a quarterback.
That's the truth.
Okay?
They could have dug around in some couch cushions.
They could have mortgaged a few cigarette farms or whatever Florida state people get wealthy off of.
They could have done that and they didn't.
And that's why they were too intent.
It is painfully clear that that is why they were too intent.
They had other problems.
But the main problem was a lack of productivity at quarterback.
Where did that production go?
University of Miami.
They invested the money.
They took Cam Ward.
And Cam Ward was phenomenal last year and had the best season in the history of University of Miami.
football. Go back and look at their quarterbacks. That is a significant statement.
We don't give up on quarterbacks in the college level because they might turn out to be good
in the right situation. They really might. And Beck has had flashes. Go back and watch the Tennessee
game last year. Beck had a terrible season and he pressed. He kept pressing and he threw picks
and he felt like he wasn't doing too much and he clearly wasn't comfortable and didn't have the easy
answers they had the year before. Remember that the year before they had Brock Bowers and they had Ladd
McConkey who by the way it turns out are both really good NFL players beast be in monsters right
like we went from ha ha that that white guys that white guys really fast to holy crap these are amazing
football players he didn't have those easy answers and go back and watch a tennessee game he still
nails he's phenomenal and he could be that for a full season and that would be worth whatever price
you're paying alone that's what we do in the pros now which i think is good we used to say oh guys
guys a bus, cut him loose. No, let him hang around. Let him become a Gino Smith. Let him have a
Sam Darnold season. Quarterback's hard. So it's very funny, by the way, that he got his car
stolen. Okay, I'm not going to stop laughing about that because again, I'm convinced the keys
were in it. And I say that out of sympathy because that's what I would have done as a 22-year-old
with more money that I could count, a partially formed frontal lobe and a Lamborghini sitting in
the driveway. That's what I would have done. Well, I tell you what this makes me realize as we go to
the break. The NIL era is also going to lead to a much more robust Second Amendment era
in college sports. I don't know if this would have worked for Carson Beck or whatever,
but I tell you this, where I'm from in the great state of Texas, you might have got one of
them cars, but somebody would have got shot before you got to the third, maybe the second.
We're going to end up talking about Clyde Edwards hilarious again, aren't we?
Oh, boy, yeah.
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And if you don't know, Clyde Edwards-Hillair, he had a very Clyde situation when he was at
LSU. And to be clear, he has stated is why he took this kind of leave of absence because he has
been carrying the baggage from this. But I don't think that was fun for him. No, it was not fun for him at all,
but somebody tried to rob him and he smoked him. Like, it was, it was like, I think he was going
to buy some electronics with somebody that he came across on Craigslist or something like that,
and they tried to get him and he was ready. And like the reports from the police were it's never
been a clearer case of self-defense that I have ever seen, right? But it was one thing when we thought
these dudes might have a lot of money. Now that people know they got bread, know them. And a lot of
these cats, man, they get to school not too far removed from whatever environs they started in.
So either A, they're woefully naive or B, they might be kicking it some places that they used to
kick it before that you stopped kicking it once you got some money in your pocket. This, this is,
this is going to be something. That's a, I mean, that's a lesson that professional athletes have a
difficult time really processing.
And I think that's going to be much harder at the college level because the younger you
are, the harder it is to learn something.
And there's no worse way to learn something than by having to crash the car, by having
to run headlong into it, right?
I'd rather that not happen.
It is also strange to me this.
I wonder how many of them are just going to end up completely borked on their taxes.
Like how many people are going to end up in a real bad spot with the feds, which
which again, at the last couple of weeks,
maybe enforcement's going to be a little laxier.
That's right.
They fired everybody at the IRS.
Attention student athletes with poor bookkeeping skills.
You might have caught a break for a minute.
Okay, so get them straight is what I'm saying,
because I know, I know that's not going to be the case forever.
So take that time, get it straight,
got a couple of years probably to get everything lined up.
Go do that.
Hey, man, some program.
This is, all right, so.
This is actually something that gets controversial when you start talking about college sports.
And I think that people look at it the wrong way.
But correct me if I'm wrong.
But every lawyer, wherever you law firm has got to do like some amount of pro bono work.
Like that's just part of what it is.
And so there's always a firm who does this pro bono work on behalf of the local college football program.
Yeah.
And so there will be the guy who represents every athlete when they get in trouble.
And my belief had always been if you know,
not go giddy boys, no money, which by the way, I mean, the revenue sharing is coming,
but up until now that programs have not actually done. They've gone and got some money,
but the programs haven't given them money. Anyway, I've always felt like the least you could do
is help him out with a lawyer when they get in trouble. Like this idea that these guys don't
deserve the best lawyer that they could get is decidedly un-American, right? It is un-American,
by definition. If you can help them get a lawyer, if you got a friend, you should help them get
the best lawyer that they can get. Okay, cool. They do that. I do not think that there is a same code
for accountants, but there should absolutely be some accountant in town who says, look,
I'll give you guys a discounted rate or whatever, but I swear I'll do all of your taxes and I will
be advertised as the tax man for the area or whatever it is. Because you're, look, you and I vote
have spit time in our lives being freelance writers.
Mm-hmm.
And just about-hmm. The accounting gets a swirly.
Well, what gets worldly about the accounting is nobody explains anything.
this stuff to you. And so if you like when I worked at photo Rutgers, they took taxes out of my
check. Easy. Cool. When I started doing this other writing, they did not take taxes out of my check,
which for a period of time I mistakenly believed was because they didn't take taxes out of this kind of
money. Falling out of control. Because of course they would. And then it's like, what you mean?
What you, what you mean? Every dollar I've got is a dollar.
Right. And then after that, you realize, oh, I have to do this myself.
I got you, but you can't necessarily afford to live on this take the taxes out money.
And so, you know, you make some commentations or whatever it is.
All of that is to say, young people don't understand the magnitude of taxes.
They just don't.
And this is going to happen to a few people.
The programs should totally be looking out for them.
But I doubt that they will.
And if you want to know when you're going to see stories that emerge from this great
adjustment, trend up, tick up, put a little reminder on your calendar. Revenue sharing starts this
summer. Okay. June July, it's when I believe all of that money is going to start to kick in.
That's when you might get some interesting stories of young people learning lessons the hard way.
Which, by the way, I just want to say, this is paternalistic only in its concern, not in its
prescriptions. What I am saying is, I am worried for you because these are problems I have had with far less
money. You are going to receive far more money and your problems per the, per the, the big andy
smalls corollary will be bigger. Yes. With with more money additional problems. Yes. This is,
this is not concerned trolling. I have been, no, I have been saying this from the very beginning that
these young men and women deserve the opportunity to make bad decisions with this money.
But please understand bad decisions are.
on the way. I'm trying to imagine if I'm any insurance company, I wish that a 21-year-old would
ask me to give them a policy on a Lamborghini. Are you kidding me? Like when Bejohn Robinson was at Texas
and he had to deal with the Lamborghini company, I'm like, are you people crazy? You're giving a Lamborghini to a 21-year-old?
Are you high? To put it in a slightly different context, I want you to imagine the insurance implications
and potential safety concerns for the SEC lineman or the Big Ten lineman,
a tackle somebody or a guard, right,
who's definitely got some six-figure bonus money coming in.
And they go, I should have paid my taxes,
but I bought a $28,000 side-by-side with neon lights on it.
Like, somebody is going to do that too.
And they're going to drive it around campus.
I can't, frankly, I can't wait to see that.
That's going to be phenomenal.
And they're going to buy some really expensive guns.
and the white boys are going to buy the most expensive guns, right?
Like that's going to take on a whole different life situation, right?
I didn't know that you could buy a sniper rifle, but he has one.
Yes.
He's got a 50-Cal in his apartment.
Why do we have this gorgeous vintage Italian Mossburg shotgun, right?
Why do we have this here?
Because NIL, buddy.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, no, no.
It's my money.
I can do what I want with it.
Yeah, we give it a lot.
of money to the dumbest people in the world. In fact, what's the problem is that they're not the
dumbest people in the world, because the dumbest people in the world might ask for some advice.
They're just smart enough to make the dumbest decisions when you factor in the raw level
of dumbness and multiply it by the magnitude of the money itself. Yeah. And the scrutiny and like,
also, nothing worse than people egging you on. That's the thing. By the way, Mossberg's an American.
They're an American firm. Really? Before, yes, before some some P-Dant gets after.
I love that you don't. I love that you saw it coming and double checked it in real time.
See, like, this is the thing with working on the internet is you're like, there's always
somebody who doesn't know anything and there's always somebody who goes, he said Musberg.
I wouldn't be complaining that. Well, I figured that Winchester and Remington had the American
rifle market on, on life. But DeMosburg is they, that's the death shotgun, right?
Correct. That's what they specialize in. Yeah. Got it. Which also makes for an excellent rhyme
in a rap verse, right? Yes, he does.
rest of the piece of the rapper
Mossberg by the way
I will also say there is
look
I always feel like
I'm not believing
when you when you start talking about
your shotgun
and that's a off that's a self-offence
weapon I don't think it's not good
as a self-defense weapon
that is offense
well like if I see you with
if I see you with another type of firearm
I might think oh that's that's for show
right
but if I see someone with the shot
I'm like, oh, they want to shoot somebody.
Personally.
Not do they want to shoot them.
They, even if they miss, they all by little line, even if I miss, I can't miss.
You feel me?
Like, that's the, that's the whole point of the shotgun.
The shotgun is a, that is a killing machine.
Well, shotgun, well, not even, it's a hurting machine.
Yes.
It implies that I'm real mad.
And I know you're, y'all are over there.
And I want y'all gone.
So I'm just going to, you know, like it's very much a, I know Randy's down there somewhere
pass, right?
Just I'm throwing a bunch of stuff that way.
There's a unique, but there's a unique indiscriminate spite to a shotgun that I respect.
I think you may find this interesting and I think I may know why it is that you thought
that Mossberg was perhaps an international company.
Mossberg is spelled M-O-S-B-E-R-G, but when I Googled it, I googled it, I googled M-A-U-S-B-E-R-G because
I did think that was how it was spelled.
and the reason I thought that was how it was spelled
is because that is how the rapper of Bosburg,
rest in peace, spelled his name.
And that is, he has the all-time classic song,
Get Naked.
You may have heard Get Naked's West Coast Joint.
Dun, do, do, do, do, do, do that get naked.
That's him.
And so the M.A.U.S.
what's about?
What's it about?
Great question.
Great question.
You got to tease it out to figure out what it is.
Yeah, get Naked.
There's that word of rap, like the 3-6 mafia is the best at this,
where the title tells you exactly what the song is about.
tear the club up.
It's about exactly what you think it is.
Let's play on a robbery.
Guess what they're doing.
This is the one thing that Billy Joel and 3-6 Mafia have in coming with each other.
And it's that what you see on the label is what the song is about.
Piano Man, it's about a guy who plays piano, right?
Tell her about it is about how you should tell her about it.
Billy Joel has zero metaphor simile.
Those are for the week.
I'll tell you exactly what the song is about.
Although he did have the one song,
Ode the Good Die Young that I hit you with one day
when I realized that it is the same song
is give me that by Webby.
Come on, Virginia, don't make me wait.
You Catholic girls are much too late.
Mm-hmm.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Sure.
It's also like that song.
Billy Joel's got some extremely wrong songs
when you go, you sound like an extremely toxic person.
And then you realize he was famous.
the late 70s and early 80s and dated a bunch of supermodels.
Yo, God, I got it.
Let me tell you something, brother.
If I could sing, it'd be a rap or play or play an instrument just a little bit.
And he did both.
Like Billy Joel with Christy Brinkley is the precursor to Lyle Lovett with Julia Roberts.
And I don't think we've had anyone since then.
Well, there was that little period of time that Jermaine Dupree was with Janet Jackson.
and that was on the same list.
Had to bring that around so everybody understood the references that we were making here.
But yeah, that, but yeah, Billy Joel and Chrissy Brinkley, I feel like it's kind of the OG of the archetype.
There's, I think Linda Evangelist is in there before.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, this is, and go look at a picture.
Again, we're asking you to look up a lot of pictures here, okay?
But go look up Billy Joel.
There's a, there's a discrepancy there.
If you can sing, you can write a lot of checks, Daddy.
Yeah. Yeah, the video messed it up. Like the idea of the video messed it up for a lot of these cats, but especially before then when all you had to be able to be able to say, man, you could, I still feel like even though even in that video era, you might not become the most famous person in the world. You might not get a record deal. But in actual application of your life, you can greatly improve your chances at what to do if you can say. Great moments in short King history for Jermaine DePri by the way. Like that's it. Like respect. Like when.
when our short kings wake up in the morning and they're like, what am I accomplishing today?
What are my hopes?
They can put that on the wall, right?
As a poster.
And he blew it.
Today's the day.
And he blew it.
And he blew it.
And he had the end.
The end was, you know, I know what it's like to be a child star.
Mm-hmm.
By the way, Janet Jackson, favorite thing.
She married some member of, some member of like the extremely wealthy, like, Middle Eastern upper class.
Do you remember when her, her?
her like, I believe their pre-nup
specified a specific date
for her share to kick in
and she filed for divorce the day after.
Like it was like the 20th,
and on the 28th she was like,
today's the day. Did it.
I wasn't sure which membership you were going to discuss
that particularly gentleman or of course
the member of DeBarge that made her daddy go,
oh hell no.
No, no, no, no.
And for those who don't like fully get how this goes with DeBarge as it would relate to Joe Jackson, who would certainly know trouble when he saw it. Okay.
Barry Gordy and Motown, you know, they had the Jackson Five. They rode that out. They deal in it. They went to CBS. All of that stuff, right? Germain Jackson, Mary Barry Gordon's daughter. He stuck around. The rest of them who left. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All this cool or whatever. Okay. He later had good reason to think that he had found the new Jackson.
which were these boys, and the Jackson's were from Gary, Indiana.
Found these boys from Grand Rapids, Michigan called DeBarge.
And DeBarge, there's a lot of raw talent in DeBarge.
And L. DeBarge gives you a lot of young Michael Jackson vibes in terms of voice talent,
all of this stuff, right?
One small issue.
M. Boys was thugging.
I don't know.
I think Thuggin is the best broad term that I can.
can use in this. I can only imagine the stress they were causing Barry Gordon, the calls that
Barry Gordon was getting about what it is that the boys was doing. And so the new Jackson's,
and you know Joe Jackson had to be fully aware of the fact that these are the new Jackson's.
And James DeBarge, one of these new Jackson's, married his little girl. And they got that thing
annulled. Forget about divorce. They got that thing a no. Never happened. Noified. Negated. Right.
never ever happen.
He's like, oh, no, we got to, we got to shut this down.
I love the visual, by the way.
If you don't know, the fact that DeBarge were engaged in that many shenanigans,
that much who for all, that much tomfoolery.
Yes.
And they were with Barry Gordy.
It's like, I was in the studio with Stevie Wonder, right?
When he sang, my Sherry and Moore, I watched Marvin Gay, Hatch, the beauty.
of his relationship with Tammy Terrell and watch the two of them work together, right?
I have seen greatness.
And here I am with these gelled up pomp-a-dored fools doing illicit drugs in the bathroom
of my studio as they sing the most sweet harmonies.
Like that's the funniest part about DeBarge.
It's that DeBarge is like, yeah, man, we're going to go beat someone up and do coke in the bathroom.
Hold on, I got to sing this song, right?
And then they go in and sing Rhythm of the Night.
They sing All This Love is Waiting for You.
My baby.
I mean, and don't forget, they had a sister who I believe was a little bit,
Hello Wheels too.
It's this entire family.
Just doing too much.
No, no, no.
They had a lot going on, man.
They had a lot going on in the midpoint between the Jackson 5 and the Barge.
Mm-hmm.
And then there was Chico to Barge.
who was like the youngest of the debarges who did a stint in jail for some charge related to narcotics.
And then he got out and put out the jailiest record of all time.
It could not have been jailier.
There's a song on there called Virgin, for example.
The first track after the intro is him catching up with a chick after he done got out of jail.
It is all jail, full on jail.
they'd been in if they'd been in the right place
and they met the right distance running coach, Bo,
we would have had a dynasty.
You'd be like,
huh,
the DeBarge family,
they seem full of energy.
Yes.
How about we turn you into like marathoners?
How about we get you to run a 10K?
That's it.
They're like,
they're setting amazing times.
First guy to break the two hour marathon.
El DeBarge.
It's amazing.
In another lifetime,
we could have prevented all of this.
But alas,
but alas.
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