The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Steph Curry's Uncertain future with Warriors + Ryan Clark’s ESPN fallout | 7.27

Episode Date: July 27, 2026

Bomani Jones is back with a loaded episode of The Right Time, starting with the biggest NBA news of the week: LeBron James’ decision to join the Philadelphia 76ers. From there, Bo examines the Golden State Warriors' roster dynamics, reacting to owner Joe Lacob’s public comments about preparing for the post-Steph Curry era. He breaks down whether it is truly worth it for aging superstars with multiple titles to leave their long-time franchises in search of final rings.1234He also tackles the biggest media story on the internet, reacting to Ryan Clark’s departure from ESPN. Bo offers an insider perspective on corporate structures, the reality of network layoffs, and what it truly means to challenge the status quo. Later, he breaks down the speculation surrounding Jayson Tatum’s Instagram story and how it fuels ongoing discussions about his relationship with teammate Jaylen Brown. Plus, he reacts to Mike Vrabel's press conference puppy, explains why Arizona State University's new "influencer major" is the ultimate modern scam, and closes the show by taking classic fan voicemails . . . Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Buy 'The Right Time' merch: http://therighttimebomani.com/ Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got one of those media stories that y'all love for reasons I don't understand. We'll get to that. Also, Arizona State doing the most. Arizona State thing ever. Put a pin in that one. But first, you know, LeBron decided on Friday, or at least he told us on Friday, that he would be going to play for the 76ers. We talked about this. We did a YouTube exclusive on that for the audio audience, because by now, that dope stepped on, man. Hey, but so many different ways. Talk about LeBron making that decision. The one part, the one part. I would throw this out here. I believe I said something about the other day,

but this is the truth. And I don't know if LeBron ready for this. Andre Drummond may just point where he said that he got to be careful taking like a minimum deal just to get on and go from there because he's like once you sign for a minimum deal you're a minimum player right LeBron James is now a $4 million a year player which means they're going to treat him like he's a $4 million year player even though he is in fact LeBron James that is that's going to be that's going to be an adjustment anyway the most interesting thing to I think to have emerged after that. Actually isn't about LeBron.

It kind of like, and it's not like this is something that we didn't notice happening already, but of the teams that didn't sign LeBron, the most interesting one, I think now has become Golden State. And it's interesting in a weird way because Miami just added Janus.

They are very interesting. Minnesota added Lamello Ball. They are very interesting. Cleveland is, is interesting-ish, because they, you know, they kind of sort of running it back. At least it feels like they're running it back with the team that went farther than it's gone before. But we don't think it's good enough.

It's a lot going on over there with them. But with Golden State, Joe Laker, Joe Laker is the owner of the Golden State Warriors. And he don't know how to talk about people. I don't know if he knows how to talk to people, but I do know he doesn't know how to talk about people. Like you may remember when they won the championship that one time and Lacob got on the mic at the parade and he gave credit to the staff for what a great job

that staff did for getting contracts done that got everybody on the team, which is a way of saying, hey, you did a great job of underpaying guys. You know, not at the parade. You got to thank those guys when the players aren't around. Right? Like, that's just not what you do.

Joe Lakeb doesn't know how to talk about people. We got a recent quote from Joe Lacob where Joe Lacob talked about this team, this roster as his stands and how they are preparing for the post-Stef era This isn't like saying that you're preparing for the post-Kareem era in 1988. Where, yes, Kareem is still on the team, but it is an obviously diminished version of Kareem,

and it is your recognition that, you know, Kareem's not going to be here forever. We're going to need to do something else. But again, Kareem's not the best player on the team. Okay. Steph is still not just the best player on the team, not just the guy who sells all the tickets, but a guy that's still capable of putting up incredible moments.

He's not the player that he was 10 years ago. But what you saw in the Olympics two years ago is the value as a guy like him ages of a dude that can still produce in big moments, right? Like this is watching the soccer and getting a better understanding of what's going on there has given me a different appreciation. and you'll hear me talk about this a lot now.

I told you, but Diaryon remade that had that line about, I think he's talking about messy. He was like, this is not a game. This game is not about consistency. This game is about moments. And it rewards people who come up in moments. Basketball is a game that places a higher value on consistency because unlike soccer,

it's a lot more ways to give up and score points along the way. Right? So the consistency part matters. in a different way. But Steph is still at his best, one of the best players in the NBA. Like, he still matters in that way. And you as a franchise still treat him

like he is a superstar. And if you believe that you have a superstar in that way, then what you need to do is do the best with having him right now. Right? And for the last seven years, the warriors have consistently tried to figure out what they're going to do later when they got a right now dude. And if you don't think that step is a right now dude, somebody does put a stamp on them and move them. But see, that might, that will require a little bit too much courage.

because Joe Lankham knows, or if he doesn't know, somebody has told him, you trade stuff like that if you want to, ain't nobody buying them expensive-ass tickets to your new little building. And to be fair to the Warriors also, they went and got Jimmy Butler. They had a bad break with Jimmy messing up his knee. So it's not as though the Warriors, like, haven't done anything at all. But at the same time, they appear to be trying to ride this thing out, without like maximizing it.

The Draymond thing is interesting and I actually give them credit for doing right by Draymond. Because Draymond opted out of his deal so that they can maybe get LeBron and then when they didn't get LeBron they brought Draymond back off. I am not positive that Danny Ains

would have done that. Are you? Right? Are you certain the Danny Age would have been like, hey, Drayvon, uh, deals a deal. deal or if they're like, so, I know what we talk. Hey, I know. But like Danny A's with better words would already trade Steph out of there. My question in this, and I don't read too much

or see too much about this, I saw my guy Marcus Thompson, Clark Atlanta University's own. He said at some point, Steph's got to be mad at what the Warriors have or have not been doing. But he didn't say that, at least not for what I saw. in a way that he implied that he knew Steph was mad about it. Like, are you mad? And I asked this not as a judgment of Steph. I asked this with a legitimate measure of curiosity because I think personally where Steph is in his career

and what I would assume is in his life, I do not use the term ring chasing in the pejorative way that most people do. Right. And what I mean by that is, is, are you not supposed to try to get on the best team you can? I don't think that's something to judge people for. Hey, man.

Like, what kind of team am I supposed to get on? Like, an example of ring chasing, if we were going to think about it in that context, is like Robert Parrish getting on the 96 Bulls. Or was the 97 Bulls. Whichever one he was on, Robert Parris wasn't doing nothing but clapping. He was over there with Buddha Edwards. You know what I mean?

They're going to get a ring. but they're not really, like, contributing to a ring. They just on a team. John Sally with the Lakers. You're just on the team, okay? If Steph Curry was trying to go somewhere and get a ring, he wouldn't just be a guy that was on the team. Like Oscar Robertson playing for the 71 bucks,

it's not a guy that's chasing a ring. He's a guy that going to a team that has a chance to win a championship. Like, I don't see it that way. But you are chasing a ring. If you make that call at the end of your career that you're going to leave one of these places to go somewhere else, like you're doing it specifically for the purpose of getting a ring.

You can say that with no judgment, right? That is a statement of fact. Is it really worth it when you get that ring if you already have rings? right so like oscar robinson what's the point of staying with the cincinnati royals you have a chance to play with uh luau cindor yeah you go do that i mean that one that's absolutely 100% worth it um a hockey example for those of you who do that ray bork going to the colorado avalanche absolutely 100% worth it that it's the only thing that you got left to check off is that and you go and do it

Boom, 100% worth it. Four-time NBA champion, Steph Curry. It's probably not worth it to pick up and go somewhere else and try to figure it out. Also, as you yourself are in year 18, is what we're going into with Steph Curry. We're going into year 18. There's no guarantee physically what you're going to wind up being. You cannot assume that you're going to continue to come back every year. even like reasonably close to being as good as you were you were the year before,

all of those things. I think there is a charm to being a guy who stays with a franchise all the way through. Like there's something different about when Dirk has his last game. And you see everybody in the arena there. So that only really happens when you stay with one team, right? Like that's a moment that feels kind of like graduation in a sense. those things seem pretty cool to me and I think at this point in my life

I'm sentimental in a way that I think those things are really valuable and I think that those things matter and their memories that you take with you and so forth and so on and everything else and even if everybody understands why you did it,

it's not the same if you leave. I don't think it'd really be worth it for Steph Curry to leave. I don't really think that it would be worth it for Draymond Green to leave. If you still want to play, I get it. But in the end, I don't know.

From where I sit, I'm not these guys. They're wired different. But from where I sit, I question whether or not you're going to get the real payback off of it from doing that. But goddamn, man, they're going to stay on the team. You got to do something a little different than this.

And even if you got to, even if you do the exact same thing that you're doing, you have to say at every turn if you're the Warriors. This is the thing, like, we're doing. the thing. We're trying to make it happen. And at some point, like, I feel like sometimes with star players, I'm trying to remember the first star player I ever said this about. But I was like, hey, man, at some point, someday, you got to step up, put your big boy star player pants on, you got to go upstairs, and you got to get that coach fired. Like, sometimes that's the responsibility

that comes with being the guy that ultimately has the last decision, right? That ultimately has the way. And at some point, I'm not saying that he's supposed to get Steve Kerr fired. Of course, that's not the point that I'm making, though there's an argument for it. Most people in Steve Kerr's position would have got fired by now, not re-upped in the way that he was. So you know what mean? They just keep running his thing back, right? But at some point, he got to go upstairs. And if he ain't doing it already, I've been like, yo, so what are we doing here? Like, what's the program? What's the plan? I only got a couple more years of this. Are you trying to win this or not? Because there's no good reason.

for you to not try to win it with Steph Curry unless you don't think he's that guy. And not only does that raise the question whether or not you think he's that guy, have you ever really thought that he was that guy? Because I, as someone who has a notorious list of times where I have underestimated what Steph Curry was capable of while also thinking very highly of him, I can relate to maybe be it a little late to the program. I can relate to perhaps holding on to whatever your priors were too tightly in the face, even in the face of certain evidence, right?

But you as a team, a lot of my holdups were paradigmatic, right? Like a lot of my holdups were about can you win playing in the style that they were playing? Clearly you thought you could because you played in the style that you did. But then for the last seven years, even though you won a championship that year, I don't think that this franchise has acted like they got something special that don't come along every day and you got to max it out. Ever since they went on that two timeline nonsense, they have been actively trying to prepare for tomorrow. And this league doesn't really allow you to play for tomorrow and play for today at the same time. It's amazing they won the championship when they did.

And why did they win that championship when they did? Because they had Steph Curry. that's why they still have step curry and this is not like the last couple years for the lakers where like Kobe was cooked so no we're definitely playing for tomorrow we just got him here to like sell tickets and make people feel better about it that that's that what's going on here guys you got the guy and he's still pretty good right now and you're out loud talking about what we're going to do tomorrow that's the beauty of being the owner can't nobody fire you for being stupid. All right, guys, we got ourselves into a media story. I want to just realize something

right quick. Mike, say hi to the people right fast. Ryan is out doing some things for a little bit. We got our buddy. Mike McQuaid is here on the scene helping us out. My man, welcome to the program. Happy summer. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's been awesome. It's been, it's an honor. And I got big shoes to fill for Ryan, so I'm excited to be here. Now, my daddy work at ESPN, so you're going to get off the screen while I talk about the rest of this stuff. Just making sure that you understood that I'm always looking out for you, big dog. Anyway, I said many times, I am fascinated by the way that you guys are fascinated by media stories, and I do my best to avoid a media story unless I really feel like I have like something truly positive to, not positive, but just something

to add to it because I think I just don't think it looks good. Like being a former employee of a company and constantly having something to say about the way that they do business or about the people who are still there. Anybody who knows me knows that my outlook on the time that I spend at ESPN is I am just absolutely furious about all that time I spent at that entity that. made me kind of rich and kind of famous. Wow. Beef. I got all the beef. No, I don't have to beef. I just don't, right? You don't like everything that a company does or whatever, but I don't have, there's no like lingering resentment that I have like toward that company. It just doesn't work that way.

It is an interesting place. I'm just surprised at how interested the rest of you are by what goes on there. I've said before and I think that maybe this is part of it. that a lot of it is just simply a function of the fact that in our business, we talk about the personnel dealings at other companies. And by other companies, I mean like leagues. You know what I mean? Like part of our business is talking about people getting hired, people getting fired, scandals at their jobs, everywhere else.

So it's somewhat reasonable to expect that people would come back and look at our business that way in general, in ESPN and specific. But like, nobody looks at Fox that way. Like, nobody cares what goes on over there. for example. It's just not it. I don't think there's any network that anybody cares more about what happens with the people than ESPN. I don't have a great answer as to why. Again, I gave you a little hypothesis, but there's no company like that, other company like this, and Ryan Clark got laid off and boy, that, and at the very least had the internet in a tizzy.

I can't quite always tell like if the real world feels that way. I want to say this. I know Ryan. I won't say I know Ryan well. That wouldn't be appropriate. But, you know, I've been in communication with Ryan for a long time. I've been a communication with Ryan since before he got to ESPN. Like when he was in the league, I believe that two things. One, fundamentally Ryan is a good dude.

Actually, three things. One, I think Ryan is fundamentally a good dude. Two, I think that Ryan is really, really good at his job. and three, you got to remember, after Ryan left the league, Ryan went to Bristol and did an internship, and then he got on. ESPN figured something out a few years ago, which was that they stopped hiring a lot of the, like, really big names to be on, and they hired guys who played in the NFL but weren't necessarily superstars.

And what they wound up getting when they did that is guys that put in a lot of grind to get good at what they do, you know. And so I look at Ryan like that. I look at Marcus Spears like that. I look at Olavsky. Like those dudes really put in a lot of work at their craft. Like we're at a time in this industry where people who do jobs like mine, people by and large would rather hear athletes talk about those things. You know what I mean? and, you know, it's a little weird sometimes

and not often are those guys that good at their jobs. That is not applying to Ryan Clark. And those people are just named about it. They did it. They put in the grind and he worked really hard. And so I applaud him for getting as long as he did with the network. And I know it doesn't feel good or it couldn't feel good to have things happen in the way that they did.

As many of you know me, I once had a time on a Sunday where I was planning to come to work and asked for a raise on Monday coming off vacation. And I found out on Sunday that on Monday they were going to announce that the radio station was being sold. And then when they announced that the radio station was being sold, that night, a friend of mine sent me a text and said that he was sorry to hear that my time slot

had been given to somebody else, which nobody had told me. and so I called my boss and I said, has this time slot been given away? And my boss said to me, and I quote, I can neither confirm nor deny. And then I still had to go to work the day after that. You know? I say that to say,

I know what is like to find out that you're losing your job, except they don't like really tell you about it. it's a humiliating feeling. And the humiliation of it is, like, truly the disrespect of it all. And Ryan went through that in a way that I cannot really relate to. Like, I see why that part of it was a story. You know, like, you know, is that meme at that time that Harrison Barnes got traded and it got announced, but he was still in the game?

You know, like this, those sorts of things happen. hey, hey, hey, you got traded. But they don't cut you in the middle of the game. Like Ryan used to do the most cutthroat job in the world playing football in the NFL. They ain't never come to you at halftime and be like, hey, hey, hey, go ahead and take it in, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't even worry about it, partner.

Ain't, ain't no thing. We'll cover your shift. That's never happened. Like, that was terrible. I felt bad for him. I hate it that it played out for him like that. But what prompted me to talk about this is something that I saw that he said on the pivot

after the fact. And he was pretty emotional about what wound up happening. And he made a point, or he said something to the effect of, you know, he realized that

he wanted ESPN to accept him as he was. Right? And that was the part that I wanted to talk about because, one,

like it kind of got into this interesting place that comes up when you talk about ESPN, where ESPN is not a person and all it takes for you to get run out of there is one person to not want you to work there anymore. Like no matter what the circumstances are, if they lay you off or they fire you or whatever it is, the reason is not the budget. The reason is because somebody didn't want you to work there no more. And it only takes one. Sometimes you get a bunch of people and it's a critical mass or whatever it is. Sometimes you need one person who don't want you to work there for you to not work there anymore. it takes one person who does want you to work there to save you, right?

Like my last year there was because there was one person who came in and wanted me to work there and big footed a person who didn't want me to work there. And then the next year, nobody came to save me and that dude didn't want me to work there anymore. So I didn't work there anymore. That's it. At a fundamental level, and I don't know the particulars, what happened to Ryan was somebody didn't want him to work there anymore. They got whatever their reasons are,

whatever it is. Somebody did not want him to work there anymore. It doesn't have to be a bigger, broader thing about the whole company. It really only takes one and then nobody else who necessarily cares enough to save you. It's all it takes.

But when it comes to being, accepted by the company, I say this like for just about everybody. And this is why I'm saying this because it's not that particular to Ryan, because I don't really want to, like I haven't, I could talk to Ryan about this and I haven't, you know what I mean? So I don't feel like I should be saying anything here to you that I would, that would be directed toward him. but I will make this point about like being accepted by a large company or whatever it is

especially related to the types of the type of stuff that Ryan does and the things that Ryan is willing to talk about and Ryan wants to talk about what you hope for is that they will respect you now then respecting you ain't going to stop them from firing you and quite honestly

then respecting you you isn't going to stop them necessarily from trying to embarrass you on the way out. But like I know I felt like in the time I was there, there were probably certain people of people who did not like

the types of things that I talked about in the ways that I would like to talk about them. But I definitely felt like those motherfuckers respected me. You know? But I never thought that that was a proxy or that was going to be enough to, like, quote unquote, save me if it came down to it. But what I definitely never thought was reasonable to expect is that they would accept me as I was. Because they're not obligated to.

And they were probably never going to do that. They might put up with me. If they would give me the space to do my thing, that was kind of satisfactory for me. but especially if you make the decision that you are going to make content or you are going to do work that challenges the status quo. The expectation is that you will not be accepted. That is what makes such behavior daring and if you believe it to be courageous. That's why that is the case is because you will not be accepted.

accepted for it. That's the whole point. That's the whole thing of it. Right. And so once you make the call and you make the decision that you're going to kick it a certain way, the clock is only going to run but so long. Right. One day, one of those people that like gets mad at you on the internet, some avatar of that person is going to wind up being in charge. And like when you think about what happens when people get in charge. Like imagine if somebody told you that you could go to ESPN and you can make all the changes that you ever wanted to make. Imagine how fast you would do that. That's the exact same thing that happens when you put people in these chairs or get them into the place of making these decisions. They get to like create the network that they want to watch. You know what I mean? Like that's

exactly what it is that they get to do. And if I had to guess, that's what happened in this case. and not. Acceptance is unlikely. And I'm saying this, not just to people who do this job. I'm saying this to people who do whatever the job is, no matter where you are, no matter what it is. If you make the decision to stand on your two on whatever the thing is,

the reward for doing so is all going to be intrinsically based on the fact that you did that. But in the end, it's never going to come around and then be like, yeah, you know, what, I love you for that. That's never going to be the case. That's not it. So if you're going to do it, you got to do it and you go like, whatever comes next is whatever is going to come next. But acceptance is not just unlikely. It is not required. It is a luxury if you happen to receive it. in that case.

And I say that for everybody, everybody that comes close to doing anything like this, you got to make peace with that fact on the front end. That's how this job works. That's how this world works. You know, if you think it's right, you got to do that. You've got to ride out with it on that.

And I'll say this for Ryan. Ryan stood on a bunch of stuff. And so for him, I hope that he can take satisfaction in that point. part, that part in the end will always matter way more than however things ended at that place. Right. I'll also say this last thing because I thought this was interesting and what Ryan had to say about it. An interesting thing about athletes working in the media space, and I talked to an athlete

that works at ESPN who was talking about this, which was just like, he had to understand or learn how to navigate through like a corporate political structure. because he's like, hey, baby, in my world, you just show up with a piece of paper and be like, hey, man, I have 1,500 yards of 12 touchdowns. Just the number for that. And that's what you know, you negotiate off of that, right? Ryan thought that he was too good at his job to get let go. And I'm not saying that to say that he was arrogant.

I think he was too good at his job to get let go. Man, they'll let anybody go in this job. because it doesn't work the same way. They're just like, okay, well, we'll put something else in here and we'll do this and we'll shift this around. We'll pick those numbers up somehow, right? There's a very small number of us that they believe are too good to get cut.

Very, very, very, very small number. In sports, there are people who are too good to get cut. You've got to be a real handful to be a problem and be good and they let you go. And this line of work, man, please. all they need is an excuse. And there is no greater excuse than the word layoffs. The right time is brought to you by Fandul.

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Beau, Jason Tatum posted on his Instagram story. He was talking to some St. Louis kids. And in the, in the tweet here, it says, being around somebody that feels like they know it all, I don't want to be around that person. I don't want to be the smartest person in the room. I want to learn from somebody else. Okay. So, Mike, here's the thing. When I saw this bounce around, I was afraid that perhaps we were creating a story. right? Because everything he's saying there is true. Right? Like that is that is valuable advice to anyone who wishes to be a leader in terms of how they must comport themselves with the people who are around them. It's just that you know, we know we got the Jalen Brown stuff that's around there so it become very easy for us to project onto Jalem, you know, that he's talking about Jalen Brown, right? That could have just been something he was talking about at a camp. Shit, that might have been a camp for like five years ago.

Right? Like, you know how to Clippers go? Anything, anything could have been the case, except he put it out on his own Instagram where someone fully understood how we would take it and was still like, no, press in. This gets me back to a point that I was trying to make to people when the Jailer Brown stuff came up, which is, he thinks he's the smartest guy in the room, not just white people. Hey, hey, I don't know who Jason Tatum voted for. You know what I'm saying? So, like, maybe, maybe he, I don't know. I'm just telling you. The reason people think that about Jalen Brown is not because he's up and he. It's because he's annoying.

That is what the people are telling us. It's all of saying. Yeah, I mean, then there's been clips resurfaced of when Jalen Brown won the MVP trophy and, like, Tatum's not there to, like, touch him anything. So it's clear as day. That's not his man's. That, exactly. Like Mad Max said.

They on a team together for nine years. That's not his bands. Yes. So moving on to Mike Rable. So he recently, July 24th, he brought in a puppy on the podium for his press conference and made some headlines or made some waves on the Twitter space. You know, I think it's a nice, I would say a nice little thing to reclaim his image of what's gone on.

so your thoughts on that. Well, he pulled up with Checkers, huh? You might be a little too young to know about this, but Google the Checker speech. Richard Nixon had got caught in some big, I forget what the controversy at the time was, and he came on TV with his dog, Checkers, and did a speech with him.

It's all it takes, man. It's all it takes is a fucking dog. I would just say this for Mike Bray. I ain't going to lie to you, brother. I have forgotten about that whole other thing until you showed up with that dog. because when you show up with checkers, I'm like, oh, well, we cover it up for a big dog

and then it dolled on me. Oh, that's right. You had that little situation with you and Diana. Buddy, just go with some games. That's the only thing that you can do here is with some games. Because if you lose them games, it's going to take a lot more than that dog.

I'm telling you this right now. Kirk Herfrey wouldn't even be able to overcome it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you just need to go out here and get some dubs. That's, that's, I ain't, like I said, I, now you got to be thinking about him and Diana again. And I hadn't thought about that in a minute. And that's the thing too. Like, if he didn't do the dog, do people move on?

I mean, there's nothing else for us to do with it right now. Exactly. You know, now, not unless you start, like, showing up to games, that would be crazy. Yes, it would be. And then the final thing is, you know, my alma mater, I like to call it the Harvard of the Southwest. Arizona State is now offering a degree to become an influencer at the Walter Cronkite School, which I graduated from. I'm speechless about it. Like, what are your thoughts about, you know, now you can be a degree as an influencer and graduate it within four years?

Mike, why did you go to Arizona State? For sports journalism and the- Mike, why did you go to Arizona State? To have a good time for four years? Yeah, look here. I don't know if there is going to be a major. Me and my mans are talking about this with a higher smoking hot per capita quotient than the influencer major at Arizona State.

It's going to have a bunch of athletes in it too, partially because they want to major in it. And partially because they just want to, they just want to be there. You know what I'm saying? like this is, this is, this is going to be interesting. And it's going to be interesting to see like how the, that pipeline, doesn't Arizona State got that pipeline to the, to that industry. Yes, they do.

They have quite a few. It's not like the Syracuse to ESPN pipeline, but it's, yeah, like, all I'm saying, I am surprised, like, it's the next logical step. The Arizona State just go all the way and offer an adult concentration to the theater major. You know what I'm saying? Like this is like this is this is the place to go and be like of a particular archetype white woman in particular. Arizona State has been to school for that.

And now they a major, this is what's so wild to be about this major. It is a major that is intended literally to teach you how to not get a job. It's the only one. Like people will talk about like liberal arts majors like how you're going to. going to get a job with that. There are lots of people who get jobs with those, right? The point of being an influencer is to not get a job, right? This is a scam major, by the way. Why? Because at some point, you know what you're going to need to do? Get a fucking job, right? Like, all these influencers are like, yo, you think this is easy, this is easy, da, da, all this stuff. It ain't that many

of them making money. It's a finite amount that are going to be making money. And after that, you need to go get a job. I wish you would come in here and tell me that you got a bachelor's degree in selfie studies. Are you serious? You can't be fucking, like just about any degree. I'm like, hey, a degree is a degree.

You got, I can't imagine. I went and got a PhD. And now I got to teach these kids how to do what? No, no, no, baby. Turn a little bit more to the side, right? Like, what are we talking about? What is this? I mean, it's a great way to make money.

I'll say that. Kids are going to definitely sign up for it. Here's what I'm trying to imagine. Let me be the parent. And we're paying, God knows what the prices are these days. And you're like, what you want to major in? I want to be an influencer. I'm not paying for that.

No chance. I'm not paying for that. Hell no. And the thing is, it's like the simple skills that I was taught at journalism school, video editing and everything, you can do that by yourself now on YouTube or go, like you can go do things where you don't need a teacher. Oh, if you do this, like, oh, where you're guaranteed a following or guaranteed this. If you started two years ago before you enrolled, you wouldn't have to be there. I'm not. Let me tell you what else that influencer major is going to have

a lot of papers written but chat GPT. Right? Ain't anybody signed enough for that major to work hard. That's the opposite of the point. And I think last thing, what school would you see? I'm just coming to mind. What school is going to follow up with this? That's going to be the next one.

Because I can see like you Miami doing it. The University of Phoenix? Like, I don't, like, see, I don't know, Miami takes itself a little bit more seriously. That's the, that Florida State mayhaps, you know. I say University of Miami because like that Alex Earle, those Cavender twins, those people have came from it. So would they want to bring them back in order to? Ah, interesting question.

We've got some voicemails here for you that we're going to play. Cool. First one coming up. This is a true story, and if I need to provide the yearbook photo to prove it, I'll be happy to do so. So I grew up in up to New York in the 80s, and there was a kid in a class the year before mine that graduated. He was a first-generation immigrant from Vietnam. And he kept his original name, which in our lingo is quite hilarious, But in their language is actually quite common.

No lie, his name was Poon Tang. That was his name. And of course, he was a cult hero at the school. He was in on the joke. Everybody was cool with him. We were not making fun of him by calling him by his name. But at his graduation, and my sister graduated in his class a year ahead of mine, at graduation when he crossed the stage, the entire audience of students said,

Poon! So after graduation, I was at lunch with my uncle who had come in from out-of-state, older gentlemen, and we were talking, and he said, why did they boo that young Asian boy? That just wasn't nice. And so then I explained to him what his name was, and my uncle, with a straight expression looked at me, blinked, and said, that's just unfortunate.

Anyway, thanks, Bo. I've been a big fan for a number of years. Enjoy the program. Hey, man, I appreciate you. And that's kind of like the homie, L.J. Hose. You remember L.J. Hose? Yep. And I feel bad for L.J.

Hose because, like, he's like, that's my name. I don't understand what's so funny about it. And I hear you. but you're the one that made your uniform number zero. Like, I don't know what else it is you expected us to do. And to all due respect, y'all had the opportunity to change this. Now, like, Poon Tang, hey, man, you know, just go that way. I got a partner.

He was married to a woman from Iran. And, like, the custom apparently is, like, as a term of affection or whatever, you refer to, like, I don't know if it's all women, but her mother, the woman's mother, he was supposed to refer to her by her name and then you add the suffix con to it. And her name was Farah. So he was supposed to call the Farrakhan.

And he was like, hey, I don't know. White dude. He's like, I don't really know if I do that. I'm sorry. All right. On to question our voicemail number two. Hey, bro. It's E from the DMV.

So it's been my busy season at work. So I've had to stream the show for the last couple of months. or just now getting back in the office catching up on all your YouTube content and while catching up I noticed you got some new nicknacks on your bookshelf and one of those knickknacks

appears to be a bobblehead of the enemy from Durham and I just got to ask what's the deal behind that did you lose a bet is that an ironic gift from somebody near and dear to you or is that

is it possessed and you're safekeeping it so if evil doesn't escape back into the world say this again. I know you're on Robincon, suicide is from Derek. Thanks, man. All right. So my man

is discussing is this bobblehead right here. It is a West Point bobblehead of Mike Shoshesky. And this was a gift to me from my guy, Sam Griffle. Hold on. Sam

now works, I believe, as Spotify. He was a he was a producer on game theory. And our first episode at Game Theory had our Duke Museum piece that we did. And so as a gift at the end of season one, Sam gave me the Mike Shoshchevsky bobblehead, which I actually thought was a really cool, very particular item. And so I put that up there as a shout out to game theory. And yes, there's a bit of irony because it's Mike Chishefsky. But now ain't anything anything anything change, big doll. Get that shit straight right now. You understand what I'm

saying? Like, I'm true to this. Ain't nothing change. That's why it's not a Duke, Mike Shoshchevsky. It's a West Point, Mike Shoshsky. But, I mean, damn, that's a little tricky, too. But anyway, there's an explanation. There we come. And the final voicemail.

What on, what up, Ryan? It's Jason down in Moe City, Texas. I had to call in for the show's favorite topic because I just had some history thrown at me, and it's too good not to share. So I love roller coasters, and I was just, you know, got sucked into a roller coaster trip on YouTube, and I learned about the inventor of roller coasters. A man, or not the inventor, I learned about the man who was most famous for developing gravity rides and roller coasters, named Wal Marcus Thompson, born in 1848 in Ohio, Bo. and yes, he's not one of ours.

Well, Marcus Thompson, back in 1848, is Lamarcus even ours? You talk about us folks borrowing names of like Josephine Baker in the 40s? We talk in 1848. And yes, there's a non-knownated man walking around named L.A. Capital M. Thompson. All their own roller coasters, apparently. how far back this is go, Bo. Love the show. Love the worst. Keep it up. Talk to y'all later.

You know, it's funny. Me and mine, we spent a lot of time getting all white people from stealing from us, fighting all the off us, but what what if? What if it actually went the other way? Like some dude wrote a book a few years ago with the grand hypothesis, what if Ty Cobb really wasn't a racist?

Blew my mind. It had a grand compelling argument. Never thought it could possibly be true. I thought when he said he was from Mo City, it is the show's favorite topic. I thought he was going to talk about how he went to elementary school with Joel and Joel been hating ever since. No, he blew my mind with White Lamarcus, the inventor of a roller coaster. Damn, like, remember what it was like when you found out that it was a black man

that invented the Super Soaker? It was White Lamarcus that invented the roller coaster. Amazing. No wonder they don't talk about him. Like, I mean, that's a historical... Hey, man, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here. Wow, thanks so much to joining us here on the right time. Uh, we do this a few days a week during the summer. Mike McQuaid's handling everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line

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