The Right Time with Bomani Jones - Super Bowl LIX Recap and Kendrick Lamar Halftime Show Reaction | 2.10
Episode Date: February 10, 2025On today's episode of The Right Time, Bomani Jones recaps the Philadelphia Eagles winning Super Bowl LIX. Bo starts the show by admitting he was fooled by the Kansas City Chiefs because he didn't want... to fade Patrick Mahomes (2:00) and that the Eagles were the most talented team in the NFL. (4:24) Bo continues to discuss The Big Game by highlighting Cooper DeJean's great performance (and jokes about him being a white cornerback) and the Eagles ability to create pressure by only rushing four. (9:20) After joking about needing to recover from the trip to New Orleans, Bo breaks down Kendrick Lamar's halftime performance and asks whether or not it was grand enough for the Super Bowl stage? (19:06) And finally, we have a special edition of If You Haven't Heard centered around issues in New Orleans from being the host city of the Super Bowl and then Bomani listens to some voicemails about times you have fought with your dad. (33:16) . . . Subscribe to The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Tik Tok for all the best moments from the show. Subscribe to Supercast for Ad-Free Episodes: https://righttime.supercast.com/ Download Full Podcast Here: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6N7fDvgNz2EPDIOm49aj7M?si=FCb5EzTyTYuIy9-fWs4rQA&nd=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-right-time-with-bomani-jones/id982639043?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social Follow The Right Time with Bomani Jones on Social Media: http://lnk.to/therighttime Support the Show: PrizePicks: Daily Fantasy Made Easy! Visit PrizePicks.com/BOMANI and use code BOMANI for a first deposit match up to $100! Find your push. Find your power with Peloton at onepeloton.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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chat on the YouTube and it's a dude named Jason Marr, M-A-H-R, get a sorry ass out of here already.
He showed up in this motherfucker calling me a clown before we even got started.
We got to start nipping some of this in the bud, you know what I'm saying?
Get them out.
Look at them.
Y'all see him in the chat right now.
Can you imagine being so miserable that you show up just wanting to hate and I ain't
even had a single word to say?
That's why people don't like y'all.
Anyway, it was a, it was a...
I got Sean in my ear laughing.
Like, that's the part that y'all don't understand.
This is hot?
Like, Sean, you see the vision?
You see what we got to do sometime?
Yeah, yeah, he's out of there.
You know, it's strict rules on a Monday.
Yeah, we had to go belt-a-ass to him,
just like the Eagles went belt-a-ass to the cheese.
Boy, that I was first-class showing up.
Beat them down.
Top the bottom in that bad boy.
Now, I want to say something right fast for me
as person who occasionally attempts to make
predictions, right? I admit, I wish I was as good at this in my buddy Nick. Not so much as good at the
prediction, but he care less about being right about these things that I do, which is funny because in
real life, he cares a lot more about being right than I do. But anyway, on these sorts of things,
man, I don't be really liking to hear y'all smack after the fact. And it's not so much because I
have a problem with being wrong. It's just the people, those of you who do that, you know, like, in real,
you're whacking your own life.
Like, I know this, you know this, we can all see it.
You know what I'm saying.
Anyway, this is what I've come to realize, Sean.
This is the second time that I have made a Super Bowl prediction
where I picked the Chiefs strictly because they had Patrick Mahomes
in ignorance of everything else that was going on
and that I could see with my own two eyes.
And maybe I should stop doing that.
Yeah, I think you were like, you just got caught up in the,
well, I can't go against Mahomes.
That like, yes.
That momentum kept building where it's like, you know, for all the listeners of the show,
all year you were like, this guy's playing bad, the chiefs are playing bad, yes, yet they keep
winning.
And I think that momentum got caught.
I thought it was really funny.
It finally got me.
Exactly.
Exactly.
At the wrong time.
Yes.
So to speak.
Well done.
Well played.
They finally got me.
So this is what the thing is, right?
And people will hit me up during the game.
You still saying that he's Jordan?
Yeah.
He's still Jordan.
The thing is, Jordan play a sport that's 505 and they play series.
This sport does not allow in the same way the singularity of that one person.
Drink a little bit too much to Kool-Aid, got a little bit too high on it,
and everything I said about the Chiefs as this went through the regular season came to fruition
in the actual game.
Every single thing of it.
Somehow I was wrong in the short run while I had been going to.
correct completely in the long run. But that happens, right? They manage to wiggle their way through
and that know how to win stuff. That know how to win stuff matters at the margins. And if you have
teams that are like reasonably similar to one another, that stuff checks out. When you're playing
against a team with much more talent than you, and I think that we would have to acknowledge,
the Eagles have much more talent than the Chiefs. And that is not a specific shade to. And that is not a specific
shade to the Chiefs because the Eagles apparently have much more talent than everybody else.
When that happens, we know how to win.
Ain't that big a deal.
Like, have you seen that clip from the Netflix doc about the Olympic basketball team?
And I think it was Evan Fournier.
They was talking about the French and their chemistry and how they've been playing together
for 10 years and how all of that matters.
And Kevin Durant's question was, what that chemistry matter when you got to guard stuff?
Like, that is an extension of the point is that all these things and all your knowledge
of the institution of knowledge, all this stuff.
All that's cool, except when
them other dudes is moving furniture
and you're the couch, right?
Both of your lines
was couches.
Both of the Eagles lines was wearing
khaki suits.
You know what I'm saying?
They're picking them boys up and moving them around.
The stat that everybody has been bouncing around
that is so amazing about this game
is that the Eagles did not blitz one time.
I don't think Patrick Mahomes believes that.
if you're Patrick Mahomes, the only way you believe that they weren't blitzing is if you think they had 13 people on the field.
All right.
He's dropping back.
They're rushing four.
Not only are they in his kitchen, nobody's open.
Like Mahomes played badly.
This is not in the name of making an excuse for him.
He did not play well.
However, it was him not playing well combined with those other dudes just being completely unfair.
First of all, shout out to Justin.
Jalen Carter. I'm going to be honest with you. I don't know very much about that man personally.
I don't. He seems really mean. Like, he seems like he is not a nice person. And I don't feel like
the league got so many of those anymore, right? Just these old Mr. Memean, that you know just be
coming out here. Salty. Sean, did you see on that one plate where he hit Mahomes in the face for
no reason? The double face smack, I was like waiting for that illegal hands of the
the face penalty, the drop, and I was like, you know, he got the ball out at the right time.
I think America really enjoyed that Jalen Carter, like, hit.
That was, I think, well-deserved.
Just all of it.
They were, I mean, I am trying to think that Legion of Boom Super Bowl against Peyton Manning
and the Broncos is maybe this thorough debacleing, as I have seen as the one that we saw
right there.
But what I used to do a TV show with Dan Levitar, the point that he made, and I'm sure
he made this point today, because it is a great point.
if you can get pressure with four people in football,
everything is downhill.
Like I remember in the year 2009,
I'm going to do some old man stuff.
Shaw, let me throw this out here, by the way.
I said something about that game looking a lot like the Sugar Bowl
between Miami and Alabama and January and 93.
And I know that you don't remember this,
but those of us who was there,
it was favored Miami going for their repeat championship
at that place where you don't bet against them.
And Alabama just went out there
and dog walk them all the way, including maybe the most incredible play I had ever seen up to that point in my life.
Lamar Thomas running away from the Alabama defense except George Teague ran him down from behind,
through his arm over his shoulder with a Lawrence Taylor tackle, brought him back and took the ball from him in one motion
and started running back the other way.
And the most arrogant team there has ever been was just left in silence.
Lamar Thomas, sideline, towel over his head, all of that.
In that building, by the way, in that exact same.
same building. That was the closest thing I had as comparable to that. Sean, somebody got
about mentions and said a 90s reference is wild. What do you want me to do? Yeah.
What are you talking about? That's how sports works. What a ridiculous comment.
Sorry, guy, I had to go that far back to get to an ass whooping this thorough. You act like
I'm out here talking about Johnny United's and Alan the Horsamichi or something like that. I hate you,
I hate you people's kids. I hate them so much. I don't even know why your little ass follows me.
If you can't even go back to the night.
Anyway.
Anyway.
To your point,
that the comparison is spot on
because it was clear that it felt like one team truly bullied and snatched.
Immediately.
Snatched the game from them.
Immediately.
Like,
I didn't want to say at 10 to nothing.
It was over.
It felt over with people like,
well, the cheese would have been down 10 points and all their Super Bowls.
And then it got to 17.
And I'm like, ugh, they're done in this town.
Then it got to 24.
And it's like, ew, yikes.
And Sean, did it get up to like 31 before?
they scored? Yeah, I was, we, the Super Bowl party I was at, everyone just kept asking,
has there been a shutout at the Super Bowl? And like, are we, are we about to experience one?
Which I thought was like, more impossible than a score of Gami at a Super Bowl is an actual
shutout. Like, you can't get a field goal in this game, you know?
Yo, they had them so shook. Like, with DeAndre Hopkins dropped that pass, right? Like,
even when Mahomes could finally get something going, right? And never mind, he threw it in.
Hey, man, imagine, like, if somebody hadn't been watching the whole season.
or perhaps they did not listen to this show.
And they saw Patrick Mahomes through a pick six
to some white boy from Iowa.
Can you imagine just like trying to wrap your head around
what was going on?
Imagine being, let's say, a more conservative football fan
and fan of politics, seeing that happen at that game.
Mine will be like, what is going on right now?
Hey, hey, let me throw out a point right fast.
I'm going to keep your face on the screen.
because I need people to think about this just for a second, right?
Cooper de Gene is a cornerback.
He is a white cornerback.
He is not the first white cornerback in the NFL since Jason Seahorn.
I believe Riley Moss is the first white cornerback since Jason Seahorn in the NFL.
And Riley Moss plays for the Denver Broncos.
But what Cooper DeGine and Riley Moss have in common is they both went to the University of Iowa.
I have long said that Kirk Ferrence runs a DEI fence over there.
Okay?
There was a year very recently where they had more white players on defense.
starters on defense than literally the entire southeastern conference. Okay. You don't do that by accident.
You were doing this intentionally. This is what you want to do. This is how you go about it.
Okay, player, I get you. I see you and I'm not mad at you. And the reason I'm not mad at you is these dudes
are good. Okay. You are clearly making a conscientious effort to go find some white dudes and put them
in places where people don't normally put white dudes and thereby I will reap success.
these players reap success, and now the NFL is reap a success also.
And all I'm saying is, don't tell me you don't understand the whole idea behind.
This is not exactly DEI because DEI is something else.
But the idea that just because you make an effort to put somebody in those positions does not
mean those people are by definition unqualified.
In fact, what it very often means is you truly find people that your competition cannot find
because they're not truly making an effort to find the best people.
Where Kirk Ferris, I don't know if he's really trying that hard to find the best people,
but he is trying to find the best white ones.
And he digging up under rocks and stones and everything else.
And then what did you see the greatest quarterback of all time
being intercepted by a Caucasian,
whose fast-ass took it all the way back to the house?
I'm just saying, just letting you know, maybe just maybe,
if you looked at it through this lens, you would understand the point.
And you know what their point is?
well maybe we need to get more white dudes on defense.
That is what they will see.
They will not extend it all the way over,
but suddenly I bet you see the principle.
And to your point,
I think the Eagles are going to catch on to that, right?
Like their defensive lines all Georgia.
Maybe their secondary is going to be all white guys from Iowa now,
which is incredible turn of events.
Also amazing that Cooper DeGine is their kick returner and punt returner.
Hey, look, man.
He's got it all.
He's the future, bro.
He's the future, bro.
That's all I'm saying is,
They are not being boxed in by society.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to think bigger than that.
You got to think bigger than that.
But anyway, if you can rush four and drop seven.
I remember it was 2009.
It's a Florida State.
This was the last year of Bobby Bowden.
And I always said that Mickey Andrews got Bobby Bowden fire.
Mickey Andrews was their longstanding defensive coordinator.
And Dominique said something through all the years of playing against Florida State when he was in college.
He was like, hey, man, they're not doing anything schematically against you worth talking about.
They're just going with a.
My players are better than your players, and we're going to keep it simple, and we're going to go from there.
And the thing about Mickey Andrews was Mickey Andrews may have been a great defensive coordinator.
I don't know.
But what Mickey Andrews had was faster players than everybody else.
And so my buddy Adam Gold made the point, Mickey could just rush for and drop seven and everything would take care of itself.
Like if you can rush for, John Shoup, used to be offensive coordinator at North Carolina and a few other places in the NFL and in college.
He made that point.
The most aggressive defenses are the ones that can rush for.
if you can rush four and drop seven, everything is there.
And once the Eagles realized that all they had to do was rush four and drop seven,
there was nothing left to talk about.
Meanwhile, the chiefs went out there with a very simple plan.
The quarterback is going to beat us.
We're going to stop Saquan Barkley, and the quarterback is going to have to beat us.
And the quarterback, in large part, did.
Janele Hurst did.
And look, I have been one of those people who was critical of him.
I said that you can win with him, but you're not going to win because of him.
I actually think that's what happened in this game, right?
Like, I think the biggest thing that happened,
the chiefs had something like 25 yards total in the first half.
Like, what are we talking about?
That's insane.
You know, turning the ball over, running the ball back in it,
running interceptions back and everything else.
But Janet Hertz did the job.
That's the only part that matters.
Like, I'm not going to take this time to say anything bad about him.
He absolutely did the job.
But the Eagles so thoroughly dominated in every way.
And what Hertz is is this.
you're not going to insult him, right?
You're not going to be able to say, hey, we're going to do this to Saquan Barclay because
you can't beat us.
This was more so, we're going to do this to Saquan Barclay because that's our best chance.
And he made the plays that had to be made.
He made the throws that had to be made.
He made it through interception that don't really matter at this point.
Scramble and got big runs when they needed it.
Got himself a Super Bowl MVP.
A little surprised he ain't throw a shout out to my boy Dominique.
I know his agent when they went to the Super Bowl,
she hit Dominique with that pretty privileged shoutout.
You know, I thought he was going to get it like with Steph Curry hit him with that.
I think he, Dominique better about this stuff that I am.
I don't want to be on the business end of that.
I don't mind you.
If you got jokes for your boy, you got jokes for your boy.
I just don't like them to go all forever.
Like, once I decide, it's old.
You know what I'm saying?
I don't think Jailer Hertz is that sort of guy.
Did you see that quote, Sean,
when they asked them before,
if all this criticism provides him secret motivation,
And he said, it ain't no secret.
Yeah, he's just the, he's just a machine with the quotes.
It's like he's reading him off a book, but it comes off with this level of aura that, you're like, he really believes this shit.
You know how he knew they was going to win that game when he showed up looking like grimace?
Did you see that?
That purple, purple outfit?
Yeah, that top to bottom egg plant situation.
Not even no gold, because you know he had cute.
So I thought it might have been purple and gold.
No, sir.
He was straight grimace.
I have no idea.
Like, who's idea?
He came straight grimace,
but you got to win when you do that.
And I think he was so much more locked in
than, let's say, the quarterback on the other side
in Patrick Bohomes.
There was a clip from Chris Long,
who, you know, we hung out with a bit in New Orleans.
But there was a clip where Chris Long was saying
after the NFC championship,
Chris was in their locker room, partying with them.
And Jalen Hertz was one of the few people
who was like, not as celebratory.
And when Chris came up to him,
Hertz was like,
he's like, this is all destiny. He's like, I already know we're going to win this thing.
And was just like so locked in and game focused.
Well, Sean, to be fair, how locked in can you be when you're standing on a freeway?
And cars are cars are flying at you.
Yeah.
Like that was the, that was the Patrick Mahal situation is that he's dropping back.
Somehow nobody's open and three people are in my face.
He only got sacks six times, which feels like.
like a low number if you watch that game and how much it was in trouble. Look how crazy that is.
Yeah. Yeah. What a crazy thing to say. Six feels low. Six. We're talking about six times.
And they, man, I was stunned in Florida. So this is a team that had a quarterback that I have long questioned.
That has a coach that I have long questioned. And they did not win. They dominated. They obliterated.
More of the story, kids. If you end this TV game, don't bet on the team that's out.
here like using tape to fill up the offensive line. One of them interceptions my home's got
because you tell you the uh the the the Eagles is moving furniture they threw the left tackle
aka the end table into Mahomes. Myfucking try to change the channel next thing you know people
threw some furniture out of it then boom he broke the TV like that's what it went down
that was it that was it hey man shout out to the Eagles shout out to you Eagles fans that I like
which is not all of you, but it is a significant number of you.
I do admit, like you guys, you guys invoke a strange range of feelings.
Right fast, I just want to say something before we get to the next topic, okay?
Now, Sean, you and I were there in New Orleans for much of the week.
When did you recover, by the way?
Because it took me quite a while.
I made sure Friday night, because I knew I had a flight Saturday that I was like,
and plus the city just got chaotic.
We're going to talk about it in the if you haven't heard segment.
But yeah, Friday night, I was like, maybe this is the time for me to really, like, retire and
be done with this trip.
So Friday night, I wound up in a fascinating evening, time, place, or whatever.
I remember.
But I got to be DMC, which is like extra, super duper, really cool.
And he knew who I was, and he shouted me out from the stage.
And I just, okay, I should probably say that for the next day.
That was, that was a thing.
But, man, New Orleans wore me out.
I, I mean, yesterday, I was just here.
added to me forever to get home.
New Orleans wore me out.
It was a hell of a week.
I was so tired.
I was so beat down, but not like the Chiefs.
All right, Sean.
I think in a lot of ways,
this is what people actually came here
to hear us talk about,
which is Super Bowl halftime show
with Kendrick Lamar.
I felt like the Super Bowl was actually
the opening act for the Kendrick Lamar performance.
Yes.
Yes.
Now, I mentioned that thing with Dean.
DMC right fast. Since we're going to talk about music here, I want to continue this. So it was a fairly
corporate gig. DMC was there without run and he was rapping. And I just want to say something
right fast. I understand where people come from when they talk about like the basic idea of what
rap was in the 80s and all this stuff. Sean, he did. It's tricky. I'm trying to remember. I can't
remember what the first song was that he did. But dude, no, them song's still bang. This song's
steel bag.
Like, I was amazed
it just how good he is at rapping.
No matter what it is
that you think rap is supposed to be,
DMC, with what you might consider
their primitive raps,
still had to ruin ball fire.
No, I mean,
that's why that stuff worked
because I, you know,
obviously, like,
I got to late,
but it's timeless music.
Like, at the end of day,
run DMC has made timeless music
that will last and stand the test of time.
Yeah, it was King of Rock.
You started with King of Rock,
but I was just like,
but every now that I get into place
to see old school rappers
and I'm just like, oh man, you are controlling this, right?
Like you have our full utmost attention and your voice carries in such a way that
makes you stand up, right?
And part of that was I saw Chuck D talk about this once because I was on a podcast with
2 Ray and 2 Ray got also caught up in the idea of a modern flow and a pocket and everything
else.
And what Chuck said was his style was more ballistic because that was what the equipment required.
Like the equipment required you to speak with.
a certain tone and a certain gravity because that was what it took to make your voice carry
with the beats and what the microphones were and everything else. That is what it took. And so what you
wind up with as a result of that is a generation of truly superior live performers because they
had no other choice. Like I read something once about Frank Sinatra that was interesting where Frank
Sinatra introduced and I've seen multiple people mentioned this though, but it talked about how Frank
Sinatra introduced the idea of the microphone as an instrument because there are ways in which he would sing
I think you can say this also about Sam Cook with like that flutter in his voice.
You can't do that singing without a microphone, right?
You can't amplify your voice and do that, but it allowed you do like some little more subtle
things that people think are more interesting, but you can do that because of the amplification
that comes from the technology or that advent.
I bring that up to talk about Kendrick Lamar because I think there's levels that we
could talk about this halftime show, okay?
if you want to view this halftime show as a continuation of the middle finger of Drake,
and you love nothing more than Drake receiving that middle finger, I don't know if you could
have possibly asked for a better show. Like, he continued it to the point where I,
and you guys know how I feel about this, I am like, okay, it's got to.
be over now, right? Like he did the game over thing at the end and I'm like, okay, I've, I've, I've had enough.
I don't think there's anything else interesting that you can do with relation to your beef with
Drake. I think you did it. You played your song at the end. You had Serena Williams out there
Crip walking to it. You did the whole thing, right? You got it. You dropped to say Drake,
You know, you talked about this old, this cat, think about he want to sue you and everything else.
You got all that.
You demonstrated your defiance toward him in that moment and you did that.
Okay?
But if we're going to talk about the rest of the show, guys, I think that we can all be honest about this.
Okay.
It reminded me of another Kendrick Lamar song that was not performed.
I would say that the halftime show was.
was all right.
It was all right.
It was a good show.
I can't use the term that I want to use
because y'all take it the wrong way.
But, you know, I'm saying it.
It was mid, right?
But mid in the way,
those of us who used to have to deal with stems
and seeds say mid, okay?
It was a pretty good show.
This is what it felt like to meet, okay?
It felt like a show
may be better suited for an arena
in terms of energy
but it was a stadium show.
I felt like I have seen Kendrick's shows on award shows
with like to imagine dragons behind him
that I felt like had more energy than this show.
I felt like the energy that he had
when he did all right during the G-Funk Super Bowl,
I thought that that had more energy than this.
And so, yeah, we can talk about all these cultural elements,
we can talk about all the Easter eggs
that he had in there and all of that stuff, right?
the thing about a Super Bowl halftime show for me is that it's supposed to be big.
It's supposed to feel grand.
And it did not feel grand, right?
I think the Beyonce show at halftime on Christmas was more of the scale of what a Super
Ball halftime show should be than this one was, right?
If you switch those shows, I think the Kendrick would have worked well for the Christmas halftime
and the Beyonce would have worked better for the Super Bowl halftime because she thought in the
grandiose level that you need, I think, to put on a Super Bowl show, which is grandiose by definition.
This, to me, was not a grand enough show.
It wasn't about the songs.
He'd be able to like, he didn't even play his hits.
Yes, he did.
Hubble is his biggest hit.
He played that.
He played DNA, which is right up there.
He played that.
he made the decision to play the new album, which by the way, I don't think I really blame him for doing
because I would imagine if he picked up any new fans in the course of the last nine months,
they would have been the people that was all over GNX.
I don't love GNX like that, but it's not crazy the idea that he would play his most recent
heat or what people think is his most recent heat.
Yeah, all of that made sense in the song selection and everything else.
I just felt like you ever been to a party that just didn't have enough people?
Not because there weren't people, but the room was too big.
And so it didn't feel like the energy was contained like that.
That was what I felt like when I was watching it.
So yeah, you could talk about how black it was and you could talk about how he did it for
the culture, whatever that means, right?
You can get into all of that.
In the end, I don't blame anybody who said that they felt bored by watching that show
because he did not carry it.
Like, it was a little bit too cool.
He rapped very well, right?
Like, technically speaking and all of that stuff.
But it was too cool.
And I felt like it needed to be a bigger show.
I wanted a bigger show.
And quite honestly, I imagine the NFL and everybody else wanted a bigger show.
That being said, he made the show he wanted to make.
And as far as making the show that he wanted to make,
wanted to make. I think he accomplished all the goals of that. And Sean, 70,000 people saying a minor.
Yeah, to your point that you've been mentioning, like, it wasn't a spectacle, which I think every
Super Bowl halftime performance should be. But if you've seen anything of Kendrick,
ever since he left TD and started his own brand and PG-Lang, it's like all he really focuses on is
the visuals and the art and making it truly his, which at the end of the day, like you said,
it was.
But, you know, that A minor in the entire stadium probably is all you really need.
Yeah.
Like people are talking about, oh, man, it's the sound.
My issue is not with how loud it was, right?
That's not what we're talking about here.
The issue is truly with the energy level.
And like, loud and when I did that show on HBO, that was one of the things I had to learn
is that they'd be like, yo, we need more energy and I would get louder. Those are perfect substitutes, right?
Like those two things don't necessarily mean the same thing. What he did was what I always say about ether.
I thought takeover was better than ether for the longest, but ether was for an audience of one.
And it absolutely nailed and connected with that audience of one. And Kendrick was clearly talking to Drake, Sean. I was mistaken. I didn't realize in Australia actually was the afternoon.
when that show was going on.
So, you know.
He was very awake.
Yes, yes, yes.
He was wide away.
So what do you think?
Do you think Drake watched it with a bunch of people
or he told people they couldn't watch it
and they all pretended that they had to go somewhere
and then they went and watched it?
Yeah, it was probably the latter of like,
no one's supposed to watch this.
We're in the club and then he see him at his little iPhone
like watching it on the side, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Now here's the other thing that happened too.
Sean, did you see it do with the Palestinian flag,
the Palestinian and Sudanese.
Yes.
Yes, who was a dancer on staff.
Yes.
And he was released without bail recently this morning, I believe, on no charges.
Hold on.
But let's talk about this, right?
First of all, when did he cook up this bright idea?
Right.
When did he come up with this idea that this was what he was going to do?
Because that was a bold move to make, right?
Big move.
Career ending move, potentially.
Perhaps, right?
So he did this.
He held up the flag.
and he's out there for the longest with the flag.
And security, there's really nothing for security to do here
because he's not a trespasser.
Like they detained him after he did it.
And the articles in the AP said they were trying to figure out a charge.
They didn't have no charge.
Now, nothing like that happened to me,
but after I wore that T-shirt that one time on TV, you remember that?
Yes, yes.
The thing that was very clear to me was everybody was trying to find a charge.
But they couldn't think of a charge, right?
They just knew it felt like I did something wrong, right?
And that dude did something wrong, but that was for the choreographer to come out there
and tackle that dude.
Security went out there and took him down, but they were just in the back, like, what can we do?
What can we do?
It feels like a crime, but it's not really a crime unless freedom of speech is literally over.
Yeah, they took him back and they're like, oh, shoot, he's credentialed.
We can't do anything.
We can't.
Like, he actually, that was the wild thing, but I watched it back.
I was like, damn, he's actually part of the show, right?
He was wearing the same gear as everybody else.
I'd tell you this.
I'd tell you who should have tackled him.
I would have tackled him if that was my grand national out there.
Yes, yes.
You out here working for $15 an hour when you standing on top of my GNX.
If you lost your goddamn mind, that should have been whoever the first person was.
Like somebody was telling me the currency got a car shop out there,
and they thought that maybe they got that GNX from currency shop.
It would have not have surprised me in the lease.
It was currency that went out there and took them down.
They're blowing currencies high standing on top of my car.
Hell yeah.
Like if that was my car, you damn right.
I'm sitting out there at halftime.
I'm keeping my eye on that Grand National the whole way.
That would have been who did that, but no, they went and took his ass out of there.
And I just, I just imagined them like, because a buddy of mine told me, I didn't realize
this, there's a jail inside the Super Bowl.
Asked my friend how he found out there was a jail inside of the Super Bowl.
It's Super Dome.
In the Dome.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, first-hand knowledge.
But anyway, that was so wild.
They didn't know what to do.
And the protests actually worked because it didn't make it to the broadcast,
but the shots from the crowd made it.
And so it got amplified.
It got blown up.
They threw that dude in jail, all that.
He got the cause out there.
But this is my last question.
After you do something like that, Sean, would you have the audacity to come ask for your check?
No, that's, you earned your check by doing that.
You're not going to get paid, but, you know, there's going to be a nice portion of people who will be like, I really respect what you did out there while you have to defend yourself to everyone else.
Yeah, somebody got to give me my, like, it would take some real nerve to be like, okay.
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So, Bo, I wanted to do a special, you know, if you have heard, and for the audience,
if you had heard, Bo and I were in New Orleans for this week in the Super Bowl.
And there were a lot of different socioeconomic things that we witnessed just by being there
and being on the ground.
I think the first obvious thing was the true amount of security that we saw on Bourbon
Street in the French Quarter.
And yeah, we saw military.
We saw everything.
You know, Dominique and Bo talked about the show.
We saw the cops with the weird hats and all that stuff.
But I wanted to show two or three tweets and wanted to discuss your thoughts as an economist
who studied it and been a part of this for a while of like, how do we?
we avoid things like this happening when a Super Bowl or Olympics comes to a city? So I'm going to put up
these tweets. We'll read them and then we'll kind of discuss because I think it's really prudent in it
with knowing all these events and kind of just what it does to a city. So in this first one here,
you know, this local news is saying the past week has been much slower for expected bars and
restaurants outside of the downtown area. That says in preparation of the Super Bowl,
state police forced over 100 homeless men and women onto buses under the threat of arrest,
dumping them into a freezing warehouse, tents destroyed, belongings loss,
press are barred from the site.
The price tag for this cruelty, $17.5 million.
And then we have this just from a local Facebook, a local Reddit thing,
about how small businesses who thought their stores, their restaurants would have a significant
boost during this week, given all the people in tourists in town.
it's been outsourced to big corporations like Pepsi or pop-ups like Visa outside around the dome
and taking over streets and blocks that normally would have a lot more influx of people.
And so that money that the city's earning will not go back to the people.
And Bo obviously want to ask you, like, is this something we can avoid?
What is the way this works and how cities and local governments could potentially fix this?
Well, yeah, the thing about the Super Bowl is, now the thing with, I guess,
it's unhoused people is the turn that we use now. This goes back forever. Like I remember when
they had the Olympics in Atlanta and they talked about rounded people up and just giving them
bus tickets and get them out of there because ain't nobody come to see that. I'm not saying it's
cool. I'm not saying it's not inhumane. I'm just saying they, that that's the way that they look at
and the big part is those cities don't want to look like cities that have people sleeping on
the streets, even though these cities are cities that have people sleeping on the street and it
ain't the worst thing in the world. But I think the idea, though, that the business that having
the Super Bowl does not spread out to local business is very, very interesting to me. And it's
something that I hadn't really thought about. There are a couple of parts of it that, to me,
I find interesting that we could like bring up right now. One of them is when the Super Bowl is in a
city like New Orleans, for example, there are a lot of, like, the Super Bowl is a very, very,
very corporate event, okay? And a lot of the money that comes in is coming for the Super Bowl.
and there are all these corporate activations, right?
Somebody rents out this place to be a house.
Somebody takes over this restaurant for a week or whatever,
and they have all these events and everything comes in.
And so when somebody like me comes in for the Super Bowl,
you ask, yo, so what's cracking for the Super Bowl?
And people are like, okay, this party's here, this event's there.
And Hennessee's, I didn't go to no Hennessee thing,
just throwing it out there, right?
This brand is having this.
This brand is having that.
Up and down.
And then that's where the people wind up going.
And it becomes the cool stuff for you to do.
Because it's like, hey, man, I hear Blank is having a,
event. Of course you want to go there, right? Like, I think I saw a fan duel. Their concert was bananas.
I think they had like Megan Estallion and all these people in there. I thought I saw our guy,
Sean Anderson was at that joint, I think, right? You know, countless number of artists. There were
multiple concerts going on at the same time on Friday, like you said. So like, all these people
are flocking just to these events. It's the people who come in like for business all hanging out
with each other. Yes. Right. It becomes like a meet and greet. And I want to be clear. I'm not saying this with no real
level of judgment because I'm one of those people. Like, that's definitely how I was getting down.
But like I had lunch on Saturday with my guy David Dennis. And he is a, I think he's from Mississippi,
but he's very New Orleans, right? I can't remember. I think his dad is from there. Either way,
he's yellow as hell. You know what I'm saying. You look at him. He looked like New Orleans.
You know, I know. I know white people think that was a slur. But it wasn't black people know
know exactly what I mean. But anyway, so with him, he was talking about how one night and I missed it
because I tapped out early, it was Friday night because I had run out of gas. And he was like, yeah,
we went down, it was him and a few people, he was like, we went down on Frenchman Street.
Freshman Street's a spot where the locals will go, things like a jazz drag or whatever.
But that's when I talk to people from New Orleans, that's what they talk about, they go on to kick it on
a Friday night or whatever it is. Hey, man, ain't nobody really coming here from out of town unless you
got that tour guide going to be the one to tell you that. So yeah, it winds up that much of this
traffic comes in and makes life hell on the locals. Then they buy, like, there's so much in New Orleans
that's bought up by people who use them as Airbnbs, if I'm not mistaken. So the housing stock is
affected by the idea of having these things. And the question is, what could be done about it?
Our economic system is cooked in a lot of ways. But the other part is, people are not coming,
and this may be the best way to put it. People are coming to the city for the Super Bowl.
It may be a Super Bowl in the city they like, but they're not necessarily coming for the city.
And since they're not coming for the city, they're not inclined to explore the city and go
find those things. I will also make a point. I am reading a book right now called Filterworld.
I have already forgotten who the author is, but it makes the point of how,
with the internet and these algorithms guiding us so much, people run the same searches like,
hey, what restaurant do I want to go to? And we have a tendency to stay on the first page.
And so the out of town is coming in and they're looking for a restaurant. And they're all
converging to the same restaurants because they're the ones that they heard was good.
Right? It's not, people are not getting, they're getting personalized selections based on what
it is that they said that they've liked before, but not necessarily personalized based on where
they are and what might be different. It might be something else that they want. So I think,
do think that there's a convergence in the way that we use our technology, plus how these
events have just become so corporatized that make it basically, there's a bunch of money
that's coming in to help the city and a bunch of things to happen to help the city, but not the
people who live in them. Yeah, totally. And I think, you know, something maybe that you could do is,
you know, like you said, is going and going out of your way to these local places. I know someone in the
comments just mentioned the garden district being like a more local centralized spa. I made it a point
for myself to go check out this one restaurant and really wanted to check out. And they were, you know,
the people and the staff were very appreciative of, you know, us being there and us putting them on blast.
On the same end, like, there was a friend who had a restaurant reservation and Taylor Swift and
Travis Kelsey entered that restaurant and closed it down. And so that their reservation was no longer
void. And so like you get like things like that where if you do want to support you can, but the second
something big or corporate comes in, it takes over that space and kind of prevents people to
enjoy those local spots. I'll tell you this though, I got out to the garden district. I think
that's where I met David at. And it was kind of like, oh, okay. But I had another thing that happened
where I got just a little bit out of the French quarter. It wasn't far. I went down on St. Charles.
There's a hotel on St. Charles. It's like walking distance to the quarter that I like.
but it's interesting you can tell one step over we got the lafayette square which to me feels like
you are it's the it's the first clear sign that you are out of the mix and i can't lie it was just
it was inhale exhale and then who did i see walking past van layfin another local type dude you see
what i'm saying but i just sat out there for an hour because it was like man good to be out to mix
so maybe it's suggesting to make the people is to get out the mix but let me tell you what's hard
to do once you get in the mix to get out of it especially on saturday when they had to
the damn parade. Yeah, and I know, and I know you and Greg over here got caught up in that parade,
which kind of gridlocked the city. I think something that's interesting because we were in Super Bowl
in Vegas last year, and I think that's a city built for corporations and built to like avoid this
because what's the local thing you're going to go? Summerlin or Henderson, like that's a 20-minute
drive, you know? I don't think they even want us or our money, right? Like if that was the case,
they'd be trying to get it every week, right? It's a Super Bowl every weekend.
Vegas every week. So yeah, I'm curious how this is. I know some people were, you know,
looking at this and seeing what it could do to L.A. when the Olympics comes in 2028 and the fact
that they have a Super Bowl just following after that. But I figured it was a nice conversation.
And, you know, maybe there isn't a solution, but there's, like you said, there's always going
to be Super Bowls. By the way, I love it's Super Bowl City. I was going to ask real quickly,
what's your favorite Super Bowl city that, like, would do it good? You tell me it's invented in New Orleans.
I actually, I feel like these last two were kind of hard to beat.
New Orleans and Vegas is kind of tough to beat.
And I remember I was in New Orleans for All-Star in like, I think it was like 2015.
And I was like, man, they really did it well.
You know, it beats you up.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.
When it is at its best, ain't nothing beating a good weekend in New Orleans, man.
It ain't happened.
It was hot as hell, though.
Like, it was literally like, it was to a point where I was like, damn, I wouldn't
a little crisp in the ear. Yes, I agree. And once I got back, I was like, this is,
this is the weather I was missing. But I will say, like, it was to the point where I was like,
how do I schedule a trip back to New Orleans when it's not like this? You know, when it's not as
crazy, because there's so much of the city I had yet to explore. Oh, oh, I mean, the event for you
was obvious. Right. Jazz Fest. Right. Exactly. The Jazz Fest is the one being you,
I still need to figure out when, but that's the one that's made for us and before it gets too
hot. If you were single, I would say
the essence fest, but you know, I don't
know if you.
As an essence fest,
look, I don't know what you like,
but I bet you'd find something.
We could go right
into voicemails.
Your prompt on Friday when we were
in Super Bowl with New Orleans was, I believe
time a parent has
yelled at you or you've got into it.
You start to want to fight.
I believe it was people. Yeah, people tried to fight.
Yeah, people try to fight your pops.
Yes.
often and often are only but goody.
And I always have to say this when we do the voicemail.
Just because you sent a voicemail before and it didn't get used, send it again, right?
Because that, you know, they'll be forgetting.
I think we need to remember to save some highlights, but they'd be forgetting.
So there's always room for your story about that time.
Your Pops whoops your ass.
And they're all good.
We got a lot of good submissions.
Here's the first one.
What's up, Bo?
A long time listening to first time calling.
It's kind of getting into the space of, of,
fighting with your dad
like trying to fight your dad
but no, I got a mom story
that I'm pretty sure you're like, right?
Well, my parents divorced
when I was three, you know, sad stories
but, you know, hey, I'm living with moms
and by the time I'm 11 or 12,
you know, you start smelling yourself.
You know, you do a lot of things,
you know, you feel empowered.
So I don't know what I said to this woman,
but I know I ended with, man,
that's why I'm going to go with my day.
now you know that's a trigger a big trigger when I say my mom
push me up against the wall and her she's five let's say my mom is five four
now I'm probably five six five seven so I'm bigger than her so she rushed me against
the wall pushing me up and put her her her forearm into my throat and say little
nigger I will kill you and I think at that moment I never
drive my mom again.
Have a good day, Beau.
Yo, that turned
that turned real fast. Now,
I do admit that some
they argue that there's a thin line
between a funny story and child abuse.
I do think that
there's something to that.
Like, I don't know.
So, like I always say one thing I notice,
man, about this current generation of
parents is y'all don't really be telling too many stories
about how much you hate your kids. And I know
sometimes you do. You're not fooling me.
now and then you get them alone, and then they explain that these things still happen, right?
I don't know if the trauma generation can look back on it with the sense of humor than my generation can.
Because I can't lie. I understand that some of you find these stories offensive, but I found that hilarious.
Once I heard that story reminded me of my childhood, I've obviously like of a 1.5 immigrant family and like, you know,
objectively speaking, my mom and dad would beat my ass sometimes if I got out of line.
There was a point, though, where my mom, because I was a little too old and I really needed a scolding, she said, this time you're going to hit me.
And she put her hands out with the ruler.
And it broke me down, Beau.
That was the moment where I was like, I was like, Mom, you really fucked me up.
And I didn't do anything bad for the rest of my life.
That really, if you want to get some into real psychological warfare, that's what you've got to do.
That is amazing.
You're like, nah, your turn.
damn that's how much you hurt me yes my mom's an incredible woman and i always i always bring that
story up of like oh your kid's not listening to you try this one wow all right here's the next
one hey shan um just following up with your guys prompt about the time uh you or someone you know
tried to try their father um i've actually watched one of my friends tried his dad so what basically
happened was we were in the basin playing video games very nice basin uh fully redone so
me, my boy, Nick, just kicking it, playing video games, whatever, and his dad came home.
And my friend and his dad like to, you know, squabble up a little bit, you know, rough house a bit.
This for context, Nick's Italian, and then I'm a Jamaican-Gaiian, so in African and Caribbean culture,
it's not wise to go fight your dad or even temp to fight your dad.
Win or lose your game takes out the house.
Anyway, so my friend, Nick, he saw his dad kind of chilling in his corner doing his thing while
we're playing video games, and he kind of gave me a nudge instead of watch.
this. He got up.
He put his dad in the headlock.
I'll think, okay, we'll see what happens.
And he kept his dad
in the headlock. And another thing to consider, too,
is his father looks like Agent 47
from Hitman. So that alone already
gave me the creeps, and I didn't want to try this man.
I don't have a deep
vocabulary in combat sports,
but his dad basically fully reversed that
headlock. I put him in the headlock,
and Nick basically turned a bright shade
of red. I've never seen him in before.
It was very strange. I remember the mom
being, or excuse me, Nick's mom being upstairs.
I didn't scream, I didn't yell, I didn't try to break them up.
I really just sat there stunned and watched one of my childhood friends get choked out by his dad.
He didn't pass out.
He didn't die or obviously anything like that.
But eventually he just let him go.
Nick Dad let him go.
And just as a friendly reminder to me and him, who the man in the house is, who pays the bills and who owned the video games and who got the basic finish.
And it was bonkers.
So hopefully you get this voicemail.
All the best of you and your people.
Peace.
Yeah, man.
never been choked out, but boy, that sounds helpless.
Just the fact that he, the friend, started thinking it was a good idea to choke out your
dad and then getting the reversal is like, you know, you better learn today.
What a horrible.
All of it, all of it, like.
Tough.
Here's the next one.
It was a good, Bo.
I'm calling in from Omaha, Nebraska.
I just want to start the story of, you know, me fighting my pops.
So he used to always make me take out.
out the trash, you know, but he used to demand it.
And as a kid, I always used to hate taking out of the trash.
So I told you I was from Omaha, Nebraska for a reason.
So I'm boxing with my cousin.
My cousin is a world famous boxer now.
I'm not going to say his name.
But I'm boxing with my cousin.
I'm learning.
I'm learning.
So I'm 15 at the time.
I'm in high school.
He tells me, yo, take out the trash.
I buck up.
I said, what?
I said, who are you talking to?
to. He looked around to the left, looked around to the right, and he got up. And then he was like,
what? What did you say? I said, who are you talking to? I take out the trash and I feel like,
my mom must have came out of the room because she, you know, already thought something was going to happen.
All I can say is, as I got into my stance, the next thing I know, my head was on the side of the glass window.
And all I can remember is my mom grabbing them up off me.
And my little brother told me this story.
He was like, yo, dad was begging your head against the window.
He almost killed you.
And that's all I can remember.
But that's my story, Moni.
See you, man.
Love the show.
I appreciate that.
And I just want to say to you, brother, Omaha ain't big enough to have two world famous boxes, my man.
We all know exactly who you're talking about.
Maybe not all.
But Sean from the chat room, it seems that quite a few people immediately gleaned who it was.
The moment that I also gleaned who it was.
Yeah, you clocked it pretty early, and I figured you would.
What is it in belly?
We're talking about the dude, the hardest dude in Nebraska, whatever.
I'm going to just throw this out there about Nebraska right fast,
because I've seen some people in the chat being like, oh, I didn't know Nebraska was about it, about it.
My brother had a homeboy from Omaha, and my brother used to mess with him about Omaha this, Omaha and that.
And my brother's homeboy, Dre, told him, I drop you off in Omaha, you wouldn't make it home.
Imagine a Super Bowl in that city.
Yeah.
Oh, God, that sounds cold.
Fridgette, in fact.
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