The Ringer NFL Show - 2023 NFL Draft: Team Needs and Predictions

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

Today, the guys debate what each team should do with their respective first-round picks, then run through the various team needs according to The Ringer’s 2023 NFL Draft Guide (3:08). Finally, they close with a few emails (63:17). Check out our 2023 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Ben Solak, Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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You actually can't yell at the masses. You can't yell. There's a lot of rules there, aren't there? You can't have your phone, so Solac would be screwed. They take your phone. It's like the 1950s. You're eating like $1 pimento cheese sandwiches.

You can't. You have no technology. You don't know what time it is. I don't know how I feel about this. You don't have your phone, so Solac would be screwed, shot across the bow that I was unprepared for. It's just a tag. You're out of your phone like half the podcast.

I am a member of Gen Z. So contractually speaking, I have to check my phone once every two minutes for science and comfort. I don't want it to be this way. This is just the way it has to be. I'm the same way, so don't worry. It's not generational. I do the same thing.

It's ADD. So today we're talking about who we think is going to win the Masters for an hour. T-K. Andrew Schofler. No idea. No idea.

Who's the guy on No laying up? Who's the guy who does that golf podcast? Is he a player or is he just a good guy who talks? He responded to me. Not a player. Okay, well. So that's the extent of Ben Solex's golf knowledge. So I think that's going to be

kind of like a good little, uh, moose boosh for this podcast, which is, uh, Craig and I are super into the Masters. DK is like trying to get into golf because he's a dad now. So lack,

I don't really think he'd be bothered. But it is Masters week. And so we were like, we're going to do, we're going to go through the entire first round, pick one to 30. Well, 31 actually,

because the Dolphins gave up their pick to try and get Tom Brady and fail. But there's 31 picks. We're going to go through every single one. And we're going to figure out, who's going to take it. Like, we're just going to kind of just try to vibe it out and be like,

right, what are they going to do? But you know what? Masters Week? Picks are kind of a lot like golf where it's like you have this urge to kind of just go for glory, but you also have this urge to not look like an idiot. And those are really the two main driving forces when you're making these decisions. Yeah. So go to NFLDraft.orgher.com. You can see DK, we got mock draft from DK. We got big board scouting reports and all these players are going to be talking about.

I've got team needs there. And I'm going to be discussing a lot of those here. But team needs everything you need at NFL draft. dot the reamer.com. But right now, we're going to just tee off. We're going to just do it. We got the for some, and we're just going to go through the whole first round. And we're going to have some really mixed golf metaphors forcing them in like tin cup,

explaining ones that are going to go over like everyone's heads. It's going to be great. I like all of our shows now are just kind of like loose connections to like whatever is relevant in pop culture right now. And we do a decent job of connecting the dots, but not really. I think it's like we're trying to see what the limit is,

right? Like in a month from now, it's going to like grading the NFL draft based off of the dentist convention. Like, you're trying to see how, how esoteric of a national event we can use. Until we get to next year's combine when we just cover a different industry convention that's in Indianapolis, like a dental convention. All right. We're doing it. First on the board. First off the T.

Carolina Panthers. Trade it up to the top pick. They're taking a quarterback. I am curious. Obviously the question is just which quarterback and I feel like these quarterbacks are all so different. CJ Stroud, Ohio State

feels like the nice easy, like just nice easy swing down the middle. Like don't try to kill it. Like you're going to just put it on the fairway. And then you've got Anthony Richardson out of Florida who's kind of like the happy Gilmore. Like you're on a municipal course, short holes. And your friends like,

I think I could just put this on the green on this part four. You're taking several steps before you hit that ball. Like you're like you could either miss the ball completely or hole in one. par four. And then there's Bryce Young where you're just like, you know what, keeping the driver in the back. I'm just going to like hit my four iron. It's going to leave it short.

You're mini golfing. Oh, wow. Harsh. What do we actually think the Panthers do here, though, D.K. Damn, this is tough. I think my... You're their caddy, D.K. You're the catty of the Carolina Panthers.

What do you recommend? I'm just picturing the happy Gilmore caddy now. It's slanting slightly to the left. No, that's just because you got one shoe on. Oh, yeah. I think they're going to take CJ Stroud. All this smoke lately about Bryce Young feels like just that.

It feels like smoke. It feels like they're trying to maybe leverage the Texans into trading up one spot, whatever. To me, it's just like everything that we heard right away when the Panthers traded up with C.J. Stroud. To me, he does feel like the safest, highest floor pick of this group. You know, we saw all the, what looks like genuine emotions of the Panthers front office and brass,

like talking to CJ Stroud at the Pro Day. Like they looked at Nammered. I don't know. To me, it all just points to CJ Stroud. I do keep thinking about if Adam Schaefter or someone tweeted, hearing that Panthers quarterback coach, Josh McCown, has already told CJ Stroud they'll be playing pickup basketball together when he lives in Charlotte, North Carolina. And then I think, all right, instead of them tweeting that,

what if all of us just watched that on live television? Because we did. He said that. And I know that that's not enough to guarantee it. But if they take Stroud, we'll all. feel really stupid for even talking about it. Okay. I'm ready to look really stupid.

I am currently of the opinion that the quarterback pick for the Panthers is anybody but C.J. Stroud. Because here's my thing. Here's my thing. It's been a month almost since they traded up for that pick. And the immediate

reporting afterward was like, this is probably for C.J. Stroud. There's a couple guys they like, but it's probably for C.J. Stroud. And the further away we've gotten, the more I've had people tell me, when the Panthers traded up, they thought they were training up for CJ Stroud, which if this again, it hadn't changed and they were still getting CJ Stroud, then people wouldn't be saying that. People would be like the CJ Stroud. But people keep saying, when the Panthers traded up at first, it was for CJ Stroud. That's the only thing

we know, which leads me to believe that they're barking up a different tree. I have had Anthony Richardson, no matter what, written on my whiteboard for like a month and a half. I would love for that to come true. I think that's very justifiable. I also think that like Bryce Young's smoke is happening. I think that at the very least April 4th, we're over three weeks out, I still don't

think the Panthers know 100% who they're taking. Oh my God. To me, I think I think if were Shroud, I think we would know by now. I think it would be leaked enough to the public, such that the markets would have heavily moved, who have been taken off the ward, you would have seen maybe not like Chefter a rap, but like some major insider say, like the Panthers sort of landed on

C.J. Stroud. I think they're going a different direction. That's, that's, that's, that's the feeling in my gizzard. So that feel in my bones. You gizzard. You're gizzard. Yeah. Oh, man. The whole, the idea that they're trading up and don't know who they're taking just to me is

just the most ludicrous thing in the world. I can't believe that anyone would do that. Now it's happened twice, apparently. Us comparing them taking Anthony Richardson to the happy Gilmore swing is perfect because I could just see the Panthers like sucking next year, but there's like three incredible plays. And it's like, oh, do you see that? Like, whole one in a par four.

And they're like, yeah, what do you see that? finished dead last? No, yeah, yeah. He had a good day, though. You got a bit pretty impressive. He threw the ball 80 yards? Yeah, but they lost the game 35 to 7. No, yeah, yeah. He had a good day, though. He makes an 85-yard touchdown pass. He's like, oh, my God, that was so much easier. I should just do that every time. Yeah. All right, so if we go to the second pick here, we have the Houston Texans. It is obviously contingent on who the Panthers take first. The Panthers, the Texans are taking quarterback. There's like some, I hate to use the word buzz.

the Texans might not. I literally don't give a shit. The Texans are taking a quarterback. If anyone wants to contend that, please let me know. Ben's got a huge smugnant on its face. Go like, please. Literally lay out the case.

Please. He's such an agent of chaos, Ben. I don't trust Ben anymore. Look me in the eye and tell me the Texans will not take a quarterback. Do you know, you know, entitled Goose game, which is the game where you're just like a goose

running around causing issues? I do. That's how I largely feel of my life presides. I'm just looking for opportunities to cause problems. Here, I think, I think, I would right now put the chance, the Texans, take a quarterback at two overall at 99%. I absolutely do 100% think that there is a world in which they don't. The world is, they only like one dude, enough to like really justify taking them at two. Remember, they have picked 12. And so that dude goes one. And then they say, all right, let's move back to six. And we'll

probably still get a guy that we like. Or let's move back and then move up from 12 and give the guy at five. I'm like, Nick Casario is a notorious, I do what I want to do be to my own drum guy. And so I don't think that like he'd be too footst about it.

And the roster needs a ton of help. So it's not like all they're like, you know, like Panthers, you get a good quarterback in there. Is this still the Passover episode? Is that you? Call back earlier today, earlier this week.

I think, yeah, I think there's a very small sliver of a chance that they don't pick a quarterback at two. With that said, they're probably going to pick a quarterback. That's going to do this for every single pick. Maybe.

I don't. I will literally refuse to fall into like we're bored and there's, we have to come up with new stuff. It's early April. Like, no, the Panthers and Texans are taking quarterbacks and you can play this clip back the night of Thursday night when we do the draft. If they don't,

then I'll just, I'll admit I'm the biggest city in the world. The Panthers, so if they take, the Panthers take C.J. Stroud. The Texans have basically been slotted in Bryce Young. I don't even know why. is it just because Nick Casario,

the GM of the Texans, just has connections to Alabama through Bill Belichick and Bill O'Brien, who is with the Patriots Forever, like Coach Price Young is, is that like the only reason that Texans keep getting slotted Bryce Young? Because why could Anthony Richardson go to the Texans?

I very much agree. I've been saying this the whole time. And I keep saying, like, if there's something I'm missing, I'm begging a Texans fan to send me a reporting that came in December that was like, the Texans, we were like Price Young. To me, this has all been like, media generated connection, like, oh, Bryce Young makes sense for the Texans, as opposed to, like, reporting and, and leaking.

We have, at this stage, early April, less information about who likes, who where, not even, like, the top two guys and quarterbacks, but, like, who the Falcons like at 8, who the Patriots really like at 14. Like, we, I cannot remember a time where, like, every single mock has, like, more different guys, moving different spots and everything like that. So I very much feel like, well, if you made me guess right now who the Texans like your quarterback, I'd probably say Bryce. I don't think it's nearly as strong of a connection as it's made to be in terms of how often it's mocked. I like, again, like, like, D.K. said, I'm Ben's going to do this with every big. Craig said, Ben's agent of chaos.

There's a lot of years before the draft where I'm just like Hyfit said, where I'm like, okay, we're just making stuff up in early April because we're bored. I kind of feel that way about like Hen and Hooker round one nonsense. But overall, most things in this draft, I'm kind of like, yeah, because I really, like, we do not have a lot of information. Nantifil's been very tight on leaks this year. The consensus is all over. the place because it's a pretty bad drafts. Everybody's got different rankings. We are in for a weird,

weird next three weeks and a weird NFL draft. I firmly believe that. All right. So speaking of weird, so we'll just give Stroud loosely to the Panthers. We'll pencil and Texans to give Bryce Young just because, I don't know, whatever. Cardinals are third. They're not going to take a quarterback because they just, Kyler Murray's massive contract extension hasn't started, which is kind of like, if you buy a really nice driver, and then you hit it a little and you're like, I hate this driver. You can't get another driver because you just spend so much money, but maybe you should. But either way, there's no way that they're getting a quarterback. And then they have to go defense.

This is probably the worst roster in the NFL. The defensive guys are so much worse. I think the only question is if they stick at this pick or they could trade down. If they go defense, do they do Will Anderson? Who is the defender you think they take here, D.K.? Yeah, I mean, I think he would be the favorite. Ben has expounded on why it's important to have an elite edge rusher in the Jonathan Gannon defense, right?

And that's like, so we're connecting the dots on that. that. He's also the top player on the majority of big boards that I've seen, or at least the consensus big boards. He's a safe pick. He's a high floor pick. Everything you hear about Will Anderson is he's a really good guy, like a really good teammate, high effort, all the stuff that you kind of want from a top five pick or whatever. So to me, that just makes a lot of logical sense that they would pick him. But at the same time, they are another team that's just sort of unpredictable. That team is in that this is a chaotic

organization. There's a lawsuit that's happening right now. Former executive is suing the bidwells, the ownership group. And there's a lot of stuff happening there that we don't need to get into now, but there's massive amounts of drama. I actually saw the other day that according to Vegas odds that

the Cardinals are dead last in the NFL in terms of like their odds of getting to the playoffs next year. They're in rough shape. This is a bad team. This is bad roster and their quarterback's going to be hurt probably for half of the year, maybe the entire year, if they just like slowly bring him back. So yeah, I don't know. To me, it's logical pick is picking Will Anderson and moving on or they could trade back if someone wants to trade into that spot. Yeah, I'd be stunned at the Cardinals pick at three. I think they're a clear tradeback team. And if so, we go quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, one, two, three. It's only the fourth time

that's happened in the common draft era. And the Colts are picking him four. And if they go quarterback, we never seen it. We have never seen quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, one, two, three, four in like the regular draft era. So Cardinals hold the keys to like a monumental, historic draft if they get out of the pick. And I think they will.

Wouldn't it be weird if this was the year that they do one, two, three, four for quarterbacks for the first time ever, a year after nobody, like they basically were playing a game of chicken. Like somebody pick a fucking quarterback last year. Like the first quarterback obviously went off the board in the first round. But then like after that, everyone was just like, no, I don't want a quarterback. You take your quarterback.

I don't want one. You take one. These four quarterbacks are not really that good either, right? Well, they all have at least one major question. Like, that's the most of my thing I think with this class. I don't think that, like, none of them are a Trevor Lawrence caliber prospect, but all of these guys are good. All these guys are very solid prospects.

You know what I'm saying? Like Will Levis, who's like, I think the consensus fourth would go round one in any year, in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? So to me, like, it's not too surprising. So let's just go to the Colts here at four, because this is, I think, a really big part. And maybe they could trade up to three with the Cardinals.

I think they would make a lot of sense. But, you know, a team could leapfrog the Colts of four. The Colts are going to take a quarterback as well, probably, unless they get latefrog. But if they have the top three, one of the three quarterbacks on the board that they want and they don't take one. I also just think it's crazy that they wouldn't take one. They've had six starting quarterbacks in week one in the last six years. Like, can't use six drivers in six years? Like, you need to pick a quarterback.

So I think there's a world. I kind of live in the world where the Will Levis might be falling. Like if no one trades up to three with Arizona, if Arizona stays in this spot, the Colts take a quarterback, maybe they take Richardson or Levis, and then another guy's falling. And if that guy's Levis, the Seahawks are here on the board at five. And I almost am tempted to lump the Seahawks and Lions into one conversation with the fifth and six pick because they're so similar. They have Gino Smith and Jared Gough under contract, a quarterback. They could take a quarterback. I don't think either will.

Like, I don't know about you guys, if you disagree, but, D.K., you're the Seahawks fan. But both these teams, this is the year. Like the Seahawks, we were just talking about how bad the Cardinals is. Cardinals are the worst roster in the NFL. The Rams are maybe in the bottom three as well. The Seahawks are trying to win the division. Like two of their teams of the division are awful and might have top five picks next year. I feel like the Seahawks would be taking the best defender player on the board,

whether that's Jalen Carter or Will Anderson. Like, is there any reason you think they wouldn't? I mean, I definitely lean that direction too with you. I think right now they probably look at the landscape of the entire NFC really and say, like, look, we could have a real shot at this. If we add, especially after coming off of the last season where they added three or four starters in the draft, like if they can do something similar to that, even remotely similar to that this year, then who knows how good they can be in 2023.

So I'm sure they're looking at it that way. But at the same time, like, I don't know, the Seahawks always kind of do stuff out of left field. So I'm not like ruling out the idea that they would get a quarterback. They didn't give Gino a very big contract. So that would insinuate that they're not like 100% convinced he's going to be the quarterback. guy for the long term. But that's just a good contract. Like he, like, I don't feel like if you have a good contract, that doesn't necessarily mean

you want another quarterback. I don't know. But the Searx and Lions, like making these trades and getting these picks, it's kind of like you hit your driver and you hit the cart path and you roll down a hill and suddenly you hit it 400 yards. I don't know. I feel like they're like, we're going to get a freaking albatross here. Like, I got to try to see if I could put this in the pin.

I feel like these are both defenders. The Seahawks are in such a nice spot to just do whatever the board gives them, right? Cardinals can't get out of the pick and they have the fourth quarterback there and they like him since Richardson, they take them. You know, Will Anderson goes at the top and they got Jalen Carter to them and they need a defensive tackle. They need better play in there and they're okay with his

off-field stuff, grab them. You get the choice of the two and you want an elite edge rush opposite. You chenna-wooo suit, take them. And like, this team made the playoffs last year, right? Like, there's a playoff team. And here's a list of good players they lost. Cody Barton, Puna Ford,

maybe. He's self-re agent. Ryan Neal? Seyalk fans are freaking out about Ryan Neal this week. The whole bones of this team are exactly the same as the playoff team from last year and they have the fifth overall pick. Hey, just go get yourself a good defensive football player.

Trade back from 20. Make 19 picks between 75 and 125 because you're freaking John Schneider. Land on a couple. Made the playoffs again, man. Seahawks are such a good spot. This is exactly what they're going to do. I think that all applies to the Lions too.

I think all that applies to the Lions too. like it's grab a defender and just roll into the season. Yes and no, because the Lions didn't make the playoffs, right? And like, while that, like, they were close, obviously, there was a chance, depending on how the Seahawks game went, week 18 that they could have. But Pete Carroll comes in with like tenure, having been a championship coach, and having recently made the playoffs at Gino. Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes are on a precipice right now.

They have masterfully, wonderfully handled this rebuild. And they're at a critical inflection point where they have to decide, do we now make the move for quarterback and start the clock? ticking clock, you got to get a quarterback, right? Or do we walk into a season in which you are the favorites in the NFC North, consciously accepting that Jared Goff is the guy to get us home? That's a decision they have to make. They're in a much more like tricky crossroads, whereas Seattle's just chug, chugging along.

I think Seattle's in a better spot in Detroit. All right. I still think Jalen Carter doesn't get past those two teams, the Seahawks lines. Raiders are at seven. This team is defense to me. I think it's just a question of who's left. But again, another team that could take Will Levis kind of really could lump in with the previous two. They signed Jimmy. It's not huge money. Maybe they're like Will Levis,

but part of me is like they signed Jimmy because they couldn't trade up. It's the same story. It's quarterback or a defender. Like these three teams are all so similar. I don't have a very good read on the Raiders, to be totally honest. I think it's the Josh McDaniels is unpredictable variable. Well, they spent all their money and all their picks on the fun positions. Like a quarterback and running back and receiver. It's like they need an offensive line. Like this team blew five double digit halftime leads. Like there's, that must keep all of them awake. Can you imagine blowing, five double, did you have time leads and then not picking a defender?

Yes. Agent of chaos. I do so. Well, no, I'm just saying I look at an offensive line that's got right now, sorry for them, Dylan Pardom, Alex Barr, Jermaine Illuminaur. And I go, yeah, I could go offensive line here early. I think the Raiders are calls to trade up for quarterback. And if they can't get it, they might look for trade back or they might sit there and be

the first team to take an offensive lineman. I think all defensive positions are on the board as well. But it matters about like where. Anderson and Carter go. Here, I'll put it to this way. List of positions I'm confident the Raiders don't take. Running back wide receiver. Other than that, man, I mean, like this roster, you can put just about anybody.

Like, even Edge Rush or where they have Channel Jones and Max Crosby, Jones is not a good season is getting old. Like, they could go every direction. They're absolutely like, in the top 10 to me, the biggest wildguard is the Raiders. Could go. The Raiders have had one good draft. The Raiders have had one good draft class in 20 years. Falcons are at eight.

They need a pass rusher. They need a quarterback, but we don't know if they want a quarterback. And then honestly, I also just wonder if they take Bejan Robinson, just because they want to run the ball. Where are we on the quarterback situation? They have Desmond Ritter and Taylor, and they have Taylor Heineckee, actually. So they said they were out on Lamar.

I don't know if that has anything to do with whether they take a quarterback. If Levis is here, maybe they would take Levis. But if the quarterbacks are gone, I don't know. It's like, do you think they would take like a Tyree Wilson? or like a Bajon Robinson. The team, in the entire smattering of maybe quarterbacks, Seahawks at five, lions at six, Raiders at seven, Falcons at eight, Titans at 11. The team I'm most confident will not take a quarterback is the Falcons.

I think the Falcons want to see what they got with Redder. They gave a very big, quote unquote, backup contract to Taylor Heineke. And I think that they're comfortable with that world. I also think that they are not going to be beholden to positional value. Like, if you just look at the way this team's ran, they gave big money to David on Yamada to Jesse Bates to guard Chris Lindstrom

right like they have not in any way been a team that's like all right we have to pay edges we have to pay wide receivers like that's just not been their approach they scream Bijon Robinson to me every mock you see me have from here on out unless I get new information is probably going to have Bijian at eight to the Falcons

I think that's exactly the sort of player Arthur Smith wants to run the offense of his dreams and that's what he's going to get the only thing I think about is that so last year more than half the teams in the league had 40 sacks and the Falcons don't have 40 sacks in the last two years combined

and so it's I mean it does feel like their their defensive line has been like this forever I don't know why it just like they have a few sacks in the last step the whole Falcons blowing leads meme is because they have had the worst pass rush for a decade yeah

I definitely can see them taking a defensive line I'm not as convinced on the Bijon thing I don't know it just that would be awesome it would be awesome. It would be fun. But like, do you think, I don't know if they would take

a skill player for the third straight year in the top 10. You know what I mean? I don't know. That's not something you're supposed to do, but I feel like it still works. It's like when you're like not on the green and you decide to putt anyway,

you know? And you're like, listen, you're worse putt your best chip. The ball goes in the hole. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I can get it on the green, put in the ball.

And if I chip it, I could hit this thing into the lake. So I'm just going to take Bijon Robinson because I'm going to get it on the green. Aren't there guys who have really weird putting for them? Like they don't stand where they're supposed to. They're the long putter. Yeah.

Yeah. That's Arthur Smith. Well, you're like, this is not how it's supposed to look, man. He's like, I don't care. It works. And you're like,

holy smokes, man, it works. And that's the Derek Henry. That's the run-heavy approach. And that's why I think they're taking Bejohn. That's a great one. So we get the Bears at 9, so they traded down from one. So they're sticking with Justin Fields,

the quarterback, which is definitely the football version of laying up short instead of trying to go, like, just clear the water. this peck has to be a lineman. Like it has to defense or offense or whatever. They have the worst defensive line of football and they were dead last in sacks last year.

And then both their offensive tackles were fifth rounders. So I just feel like they have to take a big guy. It's just like Peter Skoronsky who is from Chicago and went to school in Chicago or someone else, which is always slap in the face when you could have a hometown guy and you don't pick him. Yeah. Does anyone give a shit about that or do they just pick the better player? Does anyone care that he's from Chicago? Who cares?

Chicago. Yeah, but I'm talking about the actual GM. Oh, no, no, not at all. But the fans do. Sure. Remember when the Sixers took that guy whose mom worked for the Sixers and then immediately traded him away

and then that guy was way better? Bridges. Yeah, Bridges. Yeah. Bridges. Just like this great story. I remember. He's averaging like 30 points

per game for the Nets. I'm very aware. Who did they get instead? Was it Zaire Williams? Who did they get? Zaire Smith from Texas Tech. Who then discovered he, had a nut allergy

while a rookie for the Sixers lost substantial weight and was never heard from again. But I'm fine. Wow. That's the important takeaway here. It's gracious. I hate that team so much.

Speaking of teams, Eagles while we're in Philly, Eagles are at 10. Go birds. The Eagles, I'm trying to think of the golf comp, Craig. Are they kind of like Shafley? I guess they just won recently.

I guess they're really the Rory because they won like five, six years ago and they're back in the hunt firmly. But cornerback, D-Linman, O-Lignment, right? I feel like the Eagles take expensive positions and they lost half their defense. And I don't know, so lack, like you're the Eagles fan here. If you're the Eagles, you're at the 10th pick, do you want one of the top two offensive linemen on the board? Do you want a second-tier defensive lineman like a Nolan Smith as an edge rusher? Or do you just want like a cornerback? Do you want like a Christian Gonzalez or do you want to have Devin Witherspoon?

What do you want to do? Corner. Absolutely corner. All the teams that we talked about that could go courturback lines, Raiders Falcons, are also teams that very realistically could go cornerback, right? And Devon Witherspoon, the Illinois corner who's a little bit lighter. We talked about him on yesterday's show. Maniac.

Yeah, backup pro day today. He was banged up for the actual Illinois Pro Day. Reportedly ran four fours on Scouts watches, which is a good time. People were worried he was going to be slower and slow plus light. is really bad. So he's solid time for him. I think he's the first corner off the board. And then Christian Gonzalez, the Oregon corner, I think is the second corner off the board. I expect both them to go top 10. I think Gonzalez makes

more sense for how the Eagles like their players would not be surprised if that's the selection at all. But Dariuslay and James Bradbury, both whom they got back this year, are both over 30. And the Eagles have no future at corner behind them. They're always going to be a premium position team. Even though High Roseman's never taken a corner early, I just think that's been more circumstance than anything else. So corner to me makes a lot of I would also say that they are a extremely likely tradeback team at both 10 and at 30. But particularly at 10, this team doesn't have a lot of starting jobs available. They're not going to force a pick unless they get like a Jaylon Carter who falls in them,

and Gonzalez who falls in them, something like that. Yeah, I think as we keep going here, I think the theme you just mentioned, there's a lot of teams that need the same stuff back to back. And we're going to, that's going to be a theme. Trading up and down is going to be a thing. Yeah, because there's a lot of people where the people are, like, I'm stepping on it later, but commanders and Steelers both need a tackle to quarterback, and the Steelers are just stuck behind him.

There's just a lot of that. So next step, we have the Titans. All right. I think this is the last stop for either Will Levis or Bejan Robinson. I don't know, maybe not, but at least Will Levis. Can I do the Brian Winhorse fingers? Brian Tannehill, still on this team. He's 34 years old.

Basically last year of his deal. Last year ended on injured reserve. So it's got Tannahill and the only other quarterback on the roster is Malik Willis, who for all intents and purposes is basically dead to Mike Frable. Frable clearly hates this guy. Did not sign another quarterback in free agency. Just didn't sign anybody. Now, why would that be?

Why would that be to have two quarterbacks, one of which you hate, one of which ended on IR and you don't get a third? I would say it's either because you're going to take Will Levis at 11. You're going to trade up to three and get leapfrog your AFC South rival cults, or you're just going to trade for Trey Lance because you're, GM came from the 49ers. I like that idea. It's got to be one of those.

Windhorst Fingers is one of the most important memes to me. It's so useful. Why would that be? I really like the Trey Lance. The Trey Lance to Tennessee thing is a lot of fun. I also, we neglected to talk about Lamar Jackson, maybe being a falcon. But that's another thing. They're not interested.

Well, whatever. They can say a lot of shit. I think they're not interested. He's like, yeah, well, they're liars. and I don't respect them. Just wish they weren't such a liars. The Titans. So whenever I think about the Titans,

I think about how Mike Vrable won a power struggle with the GM and got the GM fired and how much he hates Treeline Burks and Malik Willis and maybe Traylen Berks and Malik Willis picks in particular the reason that Vrable got, what's his face fired?

I can't remember why they were off the top of my head. John Robinson. Yes, John Robinson. And so, yes, the Willis thing, the Traylin Berks thing, to me, it's just like, watching the Titans all last year, it just felt like the coach hated his players.

So pick out the guy who you think Mike Vrable is going to like here. That's who they're going to pick. I could definitely see, I could definitely see Will Levis being a variable guy, like football guys, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

That just does make a lot of sense to me. This is a man who needs a new driver. He's got old clubs. You know, he's blaming it on the clubs. Yeah. Needs a refresh. Go get some calloways,

some fresh ones. Yeah. Just been playing with just that stuff. Yeah, some hand-me-downs from your dad. You're like, Dad, this is a graphite driver from 1998. I can't be hitting this anymore. It's a flesh shaft. It doesn't even swing to it.

Texans are picking 12th. This is kind of like the guy who sucks and it's like, what should I practice? You know, like, dude, anything would help. Literally anything. It's like if they take a quarterback at two, receive a sure. Yeah, just get a lesson. Right. The Texans don't know, like, however, like, I've sung a golf club once in my life.

And they're like, don't bring your hips with you, but then turn them when they come and keep tension in your back. Like the Texans need that lesson. Which is like, how do you swing this club? How does being a football team work? It's all in the hips. Just easing the tension, baby. Well, ease it on somebody else. This is turning into the Heppigil War episode.

Yes, it is. And I'm okay with it. All right. 13th are the Jets. The Jets got to take a tackle. Like, there's four tackles that I think they could take care, whether it's Skoronsky or Pairs Johnson from State, darned L. Wright, Roderich Jones.

I cannot envision the Jets passing on any of those four people. If Aaron Rogers was the GM of the Jets, what would he pick? What would Aaron Rogers want them to take? I think Roger Jones is the youngest, and therefore his mind is the most malleable. Right? Most susceptible? Who's going to be the most naive and susceptible to conspiracy theories? That's who we're going to go with.

This is not a bit, by the way. Like Jordan Love told a, I can't remember it was a podcast. or a TV show that as soon as he was Dr. Huntley. Sorry, yes, you're right. It was Brett Hundley. As soon as he was drafted, Aaron Rogers was like,

hey, what do you think about, I don't even know what it was. There was 9-11 or something. I can't even remember like what the conspiracy theory was. Hey, what do you think of the 9-11 thing? Like, that's the first thing he said to him. So everyone thinks were being mean to Aaron Rogers.

What are in our tap water, Brett? So we just need to go through the YouTube search histories of all the tackles for the Jets and we'll just figure. out who's going to go first. He's like, Brett, let me introduce you to a little show called Info Wars. Step into my office. This is the first thing we're talking about.

You need some brain octane pills. I got a bunch in the back. Anyway, we got to take a break for the Ringer Fantasy Football Show brought to you by brain octane pills. What show? Well, I didn't say fantasy. If I said NFL draft, it felt like I was roping you and with that so like. I accept being in that bit.

That was a good bit. Can I ask a question about the Jets? If they don't take a tackle, what do we think it's going to be? Because I've been definitely mock drafting them tackles because it is a very big need, obviously. But what if they actually really believe in like Mackay Beckett or whatever?

Like, we don't exactly know what's going on with him. That someone else's brain has been replaced. Sure. But I mean, they need a safety really badly, but they have the second rounder from the Browns. The Macai backed and Instagram photos right now. I've gotten me feeling a certain way. I'm ready.

Start in week one. But it's weird because they could and very well should take a tackle. But they also have a lot of guys who can be the tackle, right? They have already in the building, McCoy Beckettin, Dwayne Brown, Max Mitchell,

and Elijah Vera Tucker. They have four hypothetical tackles. Does that equal to real tackles? Probably not. But it sure is tempting to feel that way. He'll be 38 for week one. And then their other tackle has been unable

to play because his kneecaps don't work properly. I'm just saying there's a lot of dudes on the depth chart who like this front office has went and acquired and as at one time or another has had a degree of belief in. And sometimes people just stay, all right, we have like enough bodies here. We don't want to add another body. We don't want to carry another spot in the 53 men roster. To which point I could see, yeah, like safety. I could see Brian Branch being a pick here where they get branching and both say the safety

for the mega player in the nickel, right? That's the safety corner nickel player at Alabama. And then I don't think wide receiver is completely out of the question because I don't think for all of their talking that they're actually committed to Corey Davis. And a receiver room of Garrett Wilson, Alan Azard, and McCle Hardman is not like actually thrilling. So I don't think Pasquatchezer is outside of the realm of possibility as well.

It would be a nice fuck you to the Packers to just immediately take a right receiver in the first round. Oh, I think the Packers are taking a first round wide receiver with my whole heart. I believe it in complete fullness that they will be with everything. They draft that eighth receiver. off the board if they need you to. Just getting a first round pass catch of the year you get rid of Rogers, it's got to happen. They're coming up here. All right, Patriots are at 14. I'm not going to pretend to know what Bill Belichick wants. They need, they probably need a tackle. They can

use a cornerback. They can use a pass rusher. If we were to believe Bill Belichick wants with the top player in his board, it's Bejan Robb. This is the real backstop for Bejan, right? Like, I kind of don't think, there's no way at the 14th pick, he won't be the highest player in the Patriots board, right? I want to say it was Jeff Howe, the athletic who had say, like, hey, like, don't rule out running back. And then I think Lance Erlund had Bejern mock. Like, there is a lot of running back to the Patriots smoke right now. Even if it's not Bijon, they love Alabama kids.

They love Alabama backs. They love pass catching backs. May I introduce you to Jemir Gibbs? That would be funny. That would be funny. All right. Packers are at 15. So, yeah. So the Packers have used 11 at their last 12 first rounders on defenders.

It would be really funny if they trade Aaron Rogers and then immediately draft a receiver a tight end. I firmly and fully believe it will happen. They haven't taken a pass catcher in the first round in 20 years. I mean, their depth chart is pretty rough. No time like the present. I think the only receivers they have taken before the sixth round are two players that they took last year.

Christian Watson's the second and then Romeo Dobbs in the fourth. And those are the only players they have that were not six rounders. Let's play a game. There's five Packers wide receivers. Two jargons that are live? Packers receivers. Can any of you just name as many Packers wide receivers as you can? There's five on the roster right now. Samari Toure.

Samari Touret. Romeo Dubs or Chris Watson Romeo Dubs or Troy Um These are two people I've never heard of

Can you tell me the schools they're from Quick Google search One of them is from Rutgers Oh Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Bow Melon

That's correct Yes And the other one Played at Idaho Pass That's old Jeff Cotton No way his name's Cotton So yeah not great

Jeff Cotton what an incredible name. The thing with the Packers and the wide receiver jokes is as funny as they are, like, it also makes sense because when you have Aaron Rogers, you don't necessarily need to bring in top receiver talent. You don't need to buttress the passing offense with that.

It's going to be a good passing offense because you have Aaron Rogers. Well, when you have a young quarterback like Jordan Love, he kind of needs the talent more. And so, like, well, it is a good meme. It also is like defensible logic,

which gives the Packers great cover PR-wise to just go ahead and do it. Yeah. Michael Mayor, Dalton Kincaid, Jackson Smith and Jigbo, whatever, whoever is there, I think it's the right pick. All right, commanders are at 16. Is Jeff Bezos draft eligible for talking about team needs? Are they going to have a new owner by the time the draft starts

is a huge variable, huge domino that's going to fall? What are we thinking? I think there's a new owner by mid-May. I don't know if it's the draft because the draft's April 27th, so like the 29th or whatever, but I do think by mid-May, that's why I don't think they're going to take a quarterback because that's a new owner thing. but so Sam

I do think Sam help plays they need cornerback and tackle like so many of the teams just they can go whichever they don't they did in free agency they made it so that

they don't need either but yeah I think this is a quarterback or tackle here yeah to me they're the they're the Lamar team they're gonna get the new owner the new owner's not

going to care about pissing off the other owners they're going to get Lamar they're going to pass on quarterback they're going to get an offensive lineman or very sneaky pass rusher

because they have to pay one of the two of Montes Sweat and right now they ain't paying Chase Young. Pay Montes-Sweat just because in terms of availability. I would not be surprised to see defensive line, the edge rush get added to. Nickel corner as well. Brian Branch is a great fit for the commanders. You think a new owner's

going to come in, get approved by the other owners, and then immediately just screw over the other owners. Just immediately start doing a fully guaranteed contract. That would be funny. Yeah. Absolutely yes. Make a splash. It's not that he's invulnerable. It's that like when new owners arrive, they make splashes.

That's what they do, right? The Broncos guys arrived and they got rid of Nate Hackett, and they gave huge money to Sean Payton. Temper took over the Panthers. We're going to build a new facility. No, we're not going to build a new facility. Matt Rule, seven years. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, new owners show up and they got money and they got time. They got energy. And so to me, like, Lelmar situation makes a lot of sense for a new ownership in Washington. Craig, we got the Steelers on the clock at 17. And they did exactly what Washington deeds with a tackle and a quarterback. But I feel like you guys. to tackle really badly. Who do you want to fall here?

Listen, I'm not going to pretend to have an opinion on the tackles. So just give me a tackle, whichever one you think is best. I want to tackle over anything else. Well, is it an insult if they pass on Joey Porter Jr.? I actually think every mock draft, people are afraid to have the Steelers not take Joey Porter Jr., because it's like an insult. But then if you give the Steelers Joey Porter Jr., it looks like you did that on purpose. So I'm wondering, is Joey Porter Jr. actually a top 17 guy? Or are we all doing that because we're afraid that the Steelers would pass on him. I think he is a top 17 guy.

He's good. It would be pretty sick if he wants to the longest arms. I'm just looking at a picture of him right now. The longest arms I've ever seen. Pockets on his knees, man. Yeah. I mean, like, I will not,

they could have Jalen Ramsey and Trayvon Diggs as their starting corners. And if they took Joy Porter Jr., I'd like, that's a good pick. That's a good, cool, that makes sense. You know, just like, I couldn't possibly be more fine with it. Also, don't you guys think that the guy who goes 32nd overall?

because the Steelers have the 30-second pick, but it's the first pick of the second round. He should be considered a first-rounder. In his own mind, that player who gets picked 30-second. He's the 30-second player. For sure, for sure, for sure, for sure. I think he should be able to say, I was a first-round pick.

He went 32nd. I was the top 32 selection. Yeah. I still can't believe you guys flipped Chase Claypool and got the 32nd pick in the draft. Yeah, screw you, man. So those have three picks in the top 50. It's pretty amazing.

I think the Steelers is going to have... I'm the only person in the world who still believes in Chase. Chase Claypool, I think. D.K. Hello. Let's talk. Let's sidebar. Let's talk about it later.

I haven't sold an ounce of my stuff. Okay. All right. Here's it goes. The lions are at 18th. We already talked to them, but it's the same thing. It's like they probably still need defense or they could get like a large pass catcher if they wanted one. They're probably the only team in the NFL that I'm like, yeah, they don't really need a lineman.

They're like on offense, but they can get whatever. The Bucks are at 19. I think this is the break glass in case of emergency. Willevis spot. Like, I think this is the far this will Levis could possibly fall. If Baker Mayfield, they are on like pseudo backup starter money.

And then if no quarterback here, I think this is also like another offensive tackle spot because they don't have Donovan submit the left tackle. And I feel like if they don't get one in the draft, they could just bring him back.

But like this to me feels like another thirth spot for one of those things. You're not a big Kyle Trask believer? I got to tell you, I don't, it's the madman thing. It's, I don't think about Kyle Trask at all. Yeah, that's fair. What is this team going to do?

This team has a lot of really, good players on it and they're just going to play with Baker Mayfield and Kyle Trask? What are they going to do? They can't do that. They're going to do that. They can't do that. This isn't allowed. This is bad shit crazy to me. They're just abandoning quarterback and they're

just throwing the season away. Trade up. They'll get Will Lennis do something. The NFC South is like running from a bear. It's like you don't have to be faster than the bear. Just faster than your three dumb, slow friends at the NFC South. And it's like it's a little, it's insane. It's kind of honestly like they're waiting for Tom Brady

change his mind again. They're literally like on the off chance Tom Brady does want to come back. Is he going to come back to Tampa Bay though? I think if he has no other options and wants to play football, they kept the door open. I kind of think that's half what they were doing. If you guys had to guess right now who is going to

start the most games for the bucks this season? Is your pick Baker Mayfield? Yeah. Or Brady. Yeah. That feels improbable to me. That just feels there's no way. Mike Evans. is going to get so mad at Baker Mayfield.

It's going to be unbelievable. Oh, my God. It's not going to work. I don't know what they're doing. Yeah. All right, D.K., your Seahawks are back on the board at 20. If you take a defender at 5. They're trading back.

Yeah. They're trading back for sure. All right. That's what I'm going to say. 21. Chargers are at 21. This is like... Wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver.

Speed. Someone who can run faster than, like, traffic in Los Angeles around like 5 p.m. Get Herbert a driver. He needs those distance balls. You know, like the tidalist balls that, like, you hit for distance. That's what he needs. To bring it back to golf.

Well, the charge is the, it's like Justin Herbert having the, like, maybe the best arm in the NFL with the slowest group of people around him is honestly like the person. Yeah, it's like the person, you know, who drives the furthest using like practice balls from the range. Like, can we get this guy some like provi once? It's like you're giving Rory McElroy, like a wooden driver. Like Bryce and D. Schovo, a wooden driver. It's like, get him something that he can actually. work with here.

Please get them say flowers and whatever. Tortured golf. Metaphors are so good. It's true. I'm loving it. Ravens at 22? I mean,

it's kind of awkward. What do we do with the Ravens? What do we do with the Ravens? Have Lamar? Just to see. I mean, it's weird. Let's do both.

If they don't have Lamar, what do we think they do? And if they do have Lamar, what do we think they do? Well, I think the irony is that they don't, won't know when they do the pick, but if they think that they're going to have to get rid of Lamar, maybe they trade up,

but I kind of think they're going to have Lamar. You know their second receiver right now is Nelson Aguilar? That'd be super tight if that wasn't the case. They also just lost a bunch of people in defense. So I think this is a place like Deonti Banks, who's from Maryland, so obviously very close to Baltimore. My son.

But if he makes it that far, but also just an edge rusher, I don't know. Nelson Aguilar being a starting receiver for the Ravens, is kind of funny. They need to, they need to director receiver. For the love of God,

draft a receiver. Please. They, like, talking about teams in similar positions with similar needs. You have this run

with the Chargers, the Vikings, and the Ravens where it's just like, hey, that could be a Zayflowers team. Oh, look, that's the Zayflowers.

Oh, hey, and Zayflowers right here could maybe, like, if Zay does not go, if Zays available before these three picks and doesn't go, I will be flabbergasted.

We can, we can bucket all these together. Chargers, Ravens, Vikings, they all pretty much kind of need a receiver or a cornerback, kind of really badly. Like, even look at the Vikings. So Adam Fieland left and Hockinson's the two.

But like Jalen Naylor right now would be the starting receiver for Minnesota. Jalen Naylor has fewer set. Osborne and Nailor. It depends that you look at it. But like either way, he'd still be a starting and like a three receiver set. And it's like Nailer has fewer yards in all four years of college and his rookie year combined than Justin Jefferson did last year. So you sold your Jalen Rager stock?

I take it. Yeah, I'm out. Listen, if you and Chase Playpool House should not throw stones there, Chief. That's true. But the Vikings, the Vikings also don't have a cornerback who plays out. They have one quarterback who actually has played on the outside. So, like, the Vikings need a quarterback or receiver. The Ravens probably need a cornerbacker receiver.

And then the Jaguars, can I give you guys a weird stat about the Jaguars? The Jaguars defense at the same number of quarterback pressures is the Eagles. They literally both had the same amount. but the Eagles had 70 sacks and had the most in the league and the Jaguars were 25th in the NFL. They had half as many sacks as Philadelphia with the same number of friends.

Can't finish. Can't close. No. Trevone Walker, baby. Just get into the beak of the pocket and having no idea what to do afterwards. They can't put. Not one.

Oh yeah, that's a good one. So I do think the Jaguars take either like a cornerback so the quarterback holds the ball longer or a pass rusher. Or do you know they also have 10 receivers in the roster and only one is over 200 pounds? I'm fine with that.

This is a bad draft to think that. Yeah, I was going to say, this is going to be a problem because there's like two guys that weigh over 200 pounds in the draft. That is a, that's a hilarious stat. So I'm just looking at this. Calvin Ridley, Zay Jones, Christian Kirk, Tim Jones, Kendrick Pryor, Jamal Agnew. Who are these guys?

Did you make up Tim Jones? That's not real. I've heard of him. It's the All-Flat Stanley team. Seth Williams is a receiver on this team. He's actually big. Sounds like a Jewish cousin of mine. No way.

Seth Williams as a receiver. Yeah, it's true, though. Like, I'm interested where in this stretch like Dalton Kincaid and them go, because at some point the tight ends just are going to be the big receivers. But Giants are at 25. They're another team that kind of needs a pass catch

or a cornerback. Like, I mean, they could use a guard or something, but I think there's like a real stretch here. Also, I was wondering if you guys, I'm not biased, or I'm not objective, but Brian Branch seems like a very winked Martindale defensive back. And is that a reach?

No, not at all. Branch outside of the top 20 to me is really a nice value. The other player, defensive player, to me, that's an extreme weak-martindale player, reminds me of Ravens, like the guy the Ravens would take and is a position of need off-ball linebacker as Drew Sanders, the linebacker out of Arkansas. To me, that is a home-run pick for the Giants in terms of a player who can play a Michael Parsons-esque role.

Off-ball linebacker, put him on the edge, and he's a legitimate player in both directions, right? he can drop and cover and then he can actually rush off the edge and generate pressure for his own. Talk about Bejohn to the Falcons. Pretty much every opportunity I get mocking-wise, I put Drew Sanders to the Giants. I love that pick.

This is the area of the draft too where you start getting some randos. You know what I mean? Like guys that weren't expected to be first rounders. The Cole Strange. The Cole Strange pick, Nuga. So this is where we start to talk about teams like don't have anybody left on their board that has a first round grade. so they just like take some random guy.

This happens all the time in the Masters. I'm going to keep straining the golf metaphors and there's just like a random guy like Sam Bennett's in the top 10 on Saturday and you're like literally who is that? Who is Joe Damon? Yeah, exactly. Cowboys are 26. They don't need anything.

It's kind of fun to think that they would just take like Dalton, Kincaid or Michael Mayer on tight end because Donald Schultz left. I love the idea of Kincaid on the Cowboys. That would be so much fun because Dak just loves to target his tight ends. Is Dallas kind of like Dustin Johnson where they won a lot but kind of lowkey was a long time ago and now they're just kind of riding

on their laurels. Whoa. Or maybe they're more like Brooks Keppka, existential crisis. The Cowboys are the team most likely to join Live. That's for sure. That's...

That's... Cowboys are... Bills are a 27. I feel like they just need to not have Cole Beasley catching passes in a playoff game again. Is he still on their roster? Have you guys seen?

Brandon Bean, the general manager of the bill is just doing, it feels like he's doing this like public tour begging Josh Allen to not run this year. Oh yeah, I have heard some of these. He just keeps bringing it. Every interview Brandon Bean does, he's like, yeah, we just really want to convince Josh. Like, you know, in the beginning of his career,

it was, you know, not just going for a home run every time, but just take the checkdown. Now it's, you know, you can go down. And he just, every interview's like, yeah, you know, you can't just keep up that style over and it's like. You want to solve the problem, Brandon? Get it. running game.

Get a back. You can give the football too. Well, that's what I was going to say. Dude, they've been desperately trying so hard to get pass catching back so Josh Allen will just dump it off to the running backs. Like, they've really tried to get JD McKissick. They

went and drafted James Cook. They traded for Naim Hines. They're probably going to draft a Jamir Gibbs in this draft class. Like, they're just trying so desperately to get him just to dump the ball off so it doesn't take hits and doesn't run. So, Josh,

Shal and is Brooks Kepka. No, sorry, he's Bryson. Right. Who's the guy where people put the drives of him up? And they're like, look at this guy, drive the ball. Is that Bryson? Happy Gilmore. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. That's Josh Allen and the bill for sure. Bryson DeChambeau is like if happy Gilmore wasn't fun or cool, but really wanted to be. Yeah, because Bryson de Chambot is like if Happy Gilmore was really into analytics and it sucks. Mathie Gilmore. Just who played happy Gilmore, wherever that guy's name is.

Adam Sandler. Just Adam Sandler for two hours being like, well, if you look at like over the course of 10 years, performance on major fields, and it's like, this is not, it's a comedy movie, man. They can't be talking about it like this. That is exactly.

We don't want to hang out with you, man. No, no, no, no, no, it's not as cool. The bills are best offensive weapon available, in my opinion. Or Drew Sanders, if Drew Sanders is still there, and they want to do another. super-sized Mike linebacker after the germane Emmons experience. Oh, Jack Campbell is another guy that keeps getting connected

to the bills. If Jack Campbell goes around, one will eat my hat. Yes. Okay, let's save this moment. Save this clip because I'm excited for this now. I'm rooting for this. Jack Campbell. Do you want to give a Spieler, want to

let us all in a little secret on who Jack Campbell is? Jack Campbell's a linebacker out of Iowa. If this were 19-20... I think Jack Campbell's top 10 at the Masters right now. Wow. Okay, firstly, Jack Campbell looks like he's 40. All right? Secondly, if Jack Campbell, and this is 1923,

Jack Campbell would be a top two pick. No problem. This is just a real big thumper. If football were played on a five-yard-by-five-yard box, Jack Campbell would be the next, I don't know, Michael Jordan. His tie's really offset in this picture on the Iowa website. It's really bothering me. Yeah.

Great old-school name, too. Yeah. Jack Campbell, right. Anytime football starts happening behind Jack Campbell, Campbell gets a little bit overwhelmed, which is tough. Because a lot of NFL football happens behind linebackers. I think, like, there are a few guys. Lucas Van Ness, his teammate at Iowa,

Collagic Cancy, evens tackle at Pitt, Hendon Hooker, the quarterback out of Tennessee. These are some of the guys that get, like, late round one hype that I just would not touch with the 10 football. I just wouldn't be interested in it. Campbell to the bills would stun me. Can you pull up a Cloist Box's roster that he was on back in the day and tell me if there was a Jack Campbell on that team?

They're almost certainly was, but short. to be. There's two Jack Campbells, one on offense, one on defense. So like, we had a whole thing where there's got named Cloy's Box on the Lions. And he also owns the mansion that they filmed, uh, Dallas. What was the show again? Dallas.

Dallas. Matt's Dallas. Cloy's box. I'm just, I'm back on the Cloy's box thing again. His picture on Wikipedia is a painting. How do I spell cloice box? I got it for try.

I got a first try. I'm looking at the roster in 1952 when he was all pro. Who we got? Dick Flanagan. That's essentially Jack Campbell. Close enough. What else do we got? Poise.

We have a guy named Yale Larry. Get his name. Flip that John. That's not right. There's a guy named Doran Dibble. There's a guy named Juggerard. Oh, no way. This is a sci-off.

Somebody's making this up. There's no way this is real. Oh my guys. Is that his actual Christian name? He was baptized Jumman McGraw. These are unbelievable. What's Cloyce? I have never, never, never heard of a Cloyce.

Every one of these guys was a World War II hero, killed a bunch of Nazis, came home, became a billionaire by creating their own cement company. There is a Campbell, Stan Campbell. Stan Campbell. Went to Iowa State. He's Jack Campbell's great-grandfather. I've no doubt. He's got to be.

T.K. Sonny Gandy. Don Dahl. What? Oh my God. These names are just amazing to me. Don Dahl? Gene Gedbin.

Bob Smith. Incredible. Also went to Iowa. All these guys went to Iowa. Oh my God. All right. Anyway, Jack Campbell. Yeah.

Jack Campbell. Cincinnati Bengals 28th. Honestly, they're kind of so, again, Cowboys, Bill's Bengals. They're kind of well-rounded. They could just use another pass catch. It would be sick. Like, the Bengals getting a tight end would be awesome. They never had a good tight end for Burrow.

They need to get Burrow a tight end. It would be kind of insane if, like, Michael Mayer, like a very cool tight end, fell to the Bengals. And they just had Chase Higgins and, like, Michael Barrow. I love this spot for Dalton Kincaid. I think it's a great. Mayor would be good to bring more blocking. And they're kind of checking out the running game and investing in that a little bit. But Dalton Kincaid, man, his ability up the seam with how well Burrow likes to throw those balls against against cover, too.

Like, hmm. Now we're cooking. Yeah, we're cooking with real gas. You go T. Hagan, Samar Chase, Tyler Boyd, and Donald Kincaid. That's probably, if Kinca is what we think is, that's probably just the best group of pass catchers in the NFL period, which is extremely fun. I also think this is a very sneaky Jamar, uh, Jemir Gibbs team,

depending on, like, you know, how I am right to whatever. But like I said, investment in the running game, I think Gibbs is just like, Gibbs looks to me like a, you know, pick 25 to 40 running back. Like, he's that level of a talent. And then it's not a very good class. I think it pushes him up. I think the Bengals right now have Joe mixing with one year left on his deal.

They apparently thought about cutting him. They're not going to pick up his fifth year options. It's $13 million. Like they are. I absolutely see them being a potential running back team. And this is a good spot for Gibbs. Bejohn's getting some Sincey love right now too. Like if Bejohn somehow falls this far, Cincinnati is the spot.

Saints are at 29. They could use defensive linemen because four of their five defensive linemen by snaps left. So that would be cool. And then also Michael Thomas has heard again. Which, what's with that guy? Again? Wait, Michael Thomas got hurt, like recently? No, he's just not 100% for the... Oh, okay.

I was about to be like, there's no way. Dude, Michael Thomas has, like, been hurt, and it's like the way that people describe their kids. Oh, yeah, he's 48 months. Like, Michael Thomas has been hurt for the last 48 months. I don't... It's like how often Calvin is sick. That's how often Michael Thomas is hurt.

It's like every two weeks. I'm like, what? He twisted what now? The Saints restructuring... The Saints restructuring Michael Thomas this deal at the end of the season, such that he had an enormous cap hit in 2023, such as to then force him into a subsequent new restructure or to cut him, is just the most irresponsible, ridiculous, absurd, invulnerable behavior a team could possibly do. And it's all for like a wide

receiver approaching 30 who has been healthy in four years. It's unbelievable. Anyway, I love Slamp Boy. No one ever seems to know what's going on with him either. Like every time he hear anybody talk about him. How much will he go for this year in auction draft? Genuinely will he go for $1 and no more. Like three. $3. Yeah, it's like you bid and then someone else bids

and the person nominated and bids a third time. Yeah. Or he goes to 12 because someone's like, no, this is the year. This is the year. Someone gave a fantasy football

during the pandemic and they check in and like Michael Thomas is available? It's got like 30 balls. Ben, your Eagles are picking again at 30. Is it even worth discussing this or are you trading out of this pick? I would put the chance that they trade out of the pick at like 80, 85%.

If they don't go corner at the first pick, though, this is a good spot for the next corner run, Deontay Banks, out of Maryland, Kili Ringo out of Georgia, Kams Fifth out of South Carolina, at three players that I think they would like at this spot. Clark Phillips out of Utah, in my opinion, is also worth this value, but he's really small. I don't think they're going to take because he's too small. So this is a good spot for that second run on corners.

And I do think that we could very well see a run on corners late as well. Talked a lot about the Bengals and the Bills. Bengals right now really thin at the corner position. Eli Apple still a question mark. And then the bills, obviously, like, you know, did the Kyriolum thing, did the Christian Benford thing. Trey White came back last year. But he wasn't like 100%.

He never seemed back to his full self. There's still uncertainty for them at corner as well on the outside. And so you can see a run here on outside corners, which the Eagles could very well participate in. Chiefs are at 31 and again because the dolphins give up their well the doubt didn't give it up they forfeited it because they try to get Tom Brady like by their team in a scheme. It's a plot.

It's a plot. The chiefs are of the last pick at 31. Is there like a hole at the Masters that everybody comes in under like everybody birdies because they're like really good at it? I don't exactly know. I know there's there's the very hard hole which is 13

right? Amen corner baby. Yeah. Yeah. The very hard hole is the Patriots because the Patriots suck at drafting. The very easy hole is the Chiefs because, like, they could do literally anything and you'd look at the roster and be like, wow, Super Bowl contender. They had like four rookies playing in the secondary last year in February.

That's illegal. You can't do that, but they could. I like a Frank Clark replacement here. Will McDonald at Iowa State, Keon White, out of Georgia Tech. I like an offball linebacker, right? I betrew Sanders, Jack Campbell. The guy said to have a team around at that, position.

Roll his eyes. I like an interior defensive tackle here. I love a Keanu Benton out of Wisconsin of this pick. Mazi Smith out of Michigan, I like it, this pick. And then wide receiver, still available for them to continue to improve upon and cycling young guys. Obviously, Cadarius Tony is going to have one of the starting spots locked down, but the rest of them are up for grabs.

Obviously, yes. Starting spot lockdown for what? Like a half, three quarters of a game? For five touches and two touchdowns. Five touches, three touchdowns. Yeah. Only like 995 other snaps to fill. Yeah, it's just like, hey, like, we're going to, we're going to at least hit par at this hole.

So why not? You know, say hit the seven iron off the first hit. You can. It just doesn't matter. Nothing's real. We're going to be fine. Yeah. I like, I like receiver or edge rusher for them right there.

I think that's the spot. My big takeaway from this exercise is that three of the top four teams in the draft need quarterbacks. And then you've got Seahawks, Lions, Raiders, back to back to back, all kind of could go quarterback, but really need defenders. and then you've got this giant swath from like really 10 to 20 where all of the teams could basically use a tackle or a cornerback, almost all of them.

And then from like 20, the Chargers of 21, the Ravens of 22, the Vikings 23 and the Jagger's 24, and the Giants of 25 all could use a big receiver or a cornerback. And I'm curious in a draft where there's four or five good tackles, four or five good cornerbacks, and then like two, three big pass catchers, two? depending on count? It's like three.

Three or four. Are we going to see a bunch of these smaller receivers fall out? Are we going to see more random people in the 20s when the quarterbacks and tackles are gone? Are we just going to see more chaos going on? Are more teams going to trade up? Is there anything that you think might happen because of how this is shook out? I think this is like even more than usual going to be a weird first round. I know that we say that every year.

It does feel like we say that every year. But this year in particular, I feel like there's no consensus on so many of these positions. There's no consensus on receiver other than I think a lot of people will acknowledge. that JASN is really good. Jackson Smith and Jigpa. There's no real consensus on the tackle class, I would say, even. There's not a huge consensus on corners other than, I think, Witherspoon and Gonzalez are both highly rated.

But after that, there's like 15 guys that all could go in the first round. So I think it's just very hard to like nail down what the NFL is thinking about this. I think more than usual, there's going to be some random, random guys going in the first round that no one's really expecting. And there's probably going to be, like you said, a lot of moving around. I'll tell you right now, Hen and Hooker, round one hype.

I think it's ludicrous, but I think there's a good shot. LSU edge rusher, B.J.J.O.J.L.S.U. Eddrusher, B.J.J. OJolari, I think there's a good shot before a lot of the edges that we've talked about. Rob Jemir Gibbs thinks there's a good shot that he goes round one. Luke Musgrave, the Oregon State tight end. Would not surprise me if he goes round one.

We're not surprised me if he goes before one of Kincaitor Mayor. Anton Harrison, Oklahoma. tackle Osiris Torrance Florida Guard wouldn't be surprised to buy there, especially Torrance. I think Torrance is going to be a first round pick for sure. He never gets talked about any of these mocks. He's the only guard. He's the only guard. He's good. There's one good guard this year and it's him.

How many's going to draft the guard, man? It's the office line. We're three weeks out and I'll say the same thing I said at the top. I got no idea what's going on. No clue. So yes, this is going to be a banana's draft relative to expectation. I think it's going to start with pick one. I don't think it's going to stop there. Gives one to do some emails?

Email. Let's do it. All right, we got an email on a percentiles from Connor. Connor. Connor. Very much enjoyed the Passover episode. As a mathematician, I can confirm that oneth is not a thing, but zeroth or zeroth if, whatever, is in fact entirely correct technically in the way that D.K. was using it.

So you're batting 500. All right. What did I say? What? Batting 500th. Yes. Thank you. Also, we also asked you to email us in if,

you or any elders in your life claim to invent things. Holy shit. Email to ring your fantasy football at gmail.com. That was a good product. Did we get a lot? We got, oh, we got a couple great ones. We got an email from Chris. Email from Chris.

It started because, who was the, oh, Fran Tarkinton was like, I invented scrambling. Chris says, my girlfriend's dad was the late 50s to 80s beach surfer guy in Southern California. He claims incessantly that he invented the word dude. What? Oh my God. It's so good. It claims incessantly. I have followed up with Chris to fact-check this. What an incredible thing to claim.

Did you do any research? Is this possible? No, I made Chris do it. Chris was like, can you fact-check it? I'm like, how about you fact-check it? Give me what you know, Chris, and then we'll go from there. Like, I'm just going to start this. blindly. All right, we got an email from Alex.

This says, my wife's grandpa claims that he was working for the post office. Too many letters were being returned when people moved. So he invented the use of, quote, or current resident. Oh, like, okay, well, firstly, first thing, okay. Or current resident comes so far below the bar of it's cool to have been the person who invented this. That's just like a good convention of mail. I wouldn't be bragging about that one.

It's believable because no one wants that. Yeah. If you're claiming that, I guess it's maybe true. Yeah, exactly. You wouldn't make that up. So this person's the reason. I created stamps. Like, that was all me, man.

It's why we have so much junk mail now is because of this person. This guy, shout out, Nikiel. He says, I do a kid in high school. His family was ridiculously wealthy. And I was told that it's because their grandfather invented the solo cup. What? Which has huge, mean girls. like toaster strudel energy?

I know. I want to initiate a new prompt here. I love when like somebody's mom or dad invented like this random weird thing or somebody's grandparent and they're like super rich now. And it's like the most like it's like the coat hanger. If you know anybody who invented something like very simple and random like the paperclip and that set up their family for generations of wealth, email us. My favorite is so interesting.

Yeah. Emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com for weird fortunes. My favorite was the bread tab family because there's the breadtap. are like the cheapest product in the world. And there's only, there's not enough profit margin for competition. There's one company that makes all the bread tabs in like the world. It makes me so mad when I see that. Sometimes I just look around and I'm like,

everything in here was invented and built by some company. Yes, Craig. Craig, there's a box of matches in my bathroom for obvious reasons. And it's sitting there right in front of my toilet. And it's just the Royal Oak Company. And it's like all they make are boxes of matches. And I'm like, they've been, this is like a 200-year-old company that literally just makes matches.

That guy probably had the biggest mansion in 1862. Like seriously. It's even weird to think of it going forward. Like going forward, you're like, oh my God, who's that kid? Like, oh, at Harvard, like, oh, his great-grandfather was fuck Jerry. He's a meme tycoon. The best thing to think about is the bread tab company meeting once a year and being like, any innovations on the bread tabs

and everyone's like don't catch you all next year keep doing great work everyone somebody in the back is like what have we started doing purple? Like shut up we don't need more colors we're fine we're fine.

Cancel this meeting because we're wasted too much money on it. We can save money by not having this meeting every year. We're even making hundreds of bread tabs right now. Hundreds. Don't fix winning broke. They just got a lobby against twist ties. Like that's their main,

their only thing they do. They hate the twist tie people. Somebody just got like a chart. It's like, again, like once per year. They're just like, here's where bread tabs are headed. And here's where twist ties are headed. We're still leading folks. Good work, everybody.

Keep it up. It makes me mad. It makes me mad that people are that rich based off those stupid things. God damn it. Anyway. All right. On that note. Thank you, DK.

Thank you, Sillick. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, everyone for listening. Go to NFLdraft. Therener.com. Scouting reports, mock drafts, team needs. We have a whole actually interstitial on the history of the bread tab. So check that out at NFLdraft.org.com.

Thank you to Austin for help on this episode. Thank you to Kai for producing this episode. Thank you to CBS. Please don't sue us for using that music. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Black Keys. Nice.

Oh, I love Black Keys. I got a lot of you waiting. I think Black Keys are one of the highest approval ratings of any band. And I feel like nobody's like, I hate the black keys. It's just like such a likable sound. A little black submarine. I love that when Solac does no song, he sings the song. I really appreciate that.

One time in college, they played at our basketball arena. And people who didn't have tickets, including myself, would just go stand, like, right outside the arena and just listen because you could easily hear. For free. That's used in the parking lot, tailgate. Like the basketball arena is like in the middle of campus So you could just like be on campus and just like sit there and just listen to the black Cues

It was kind of nice My college dorm room was outside the baseball stadium And so I just kind of kept the window open And I just heard baseball outside and like wow I feel like Captain America Like the 40s That's kind of cool Baseball is a nice sport to kind of just hear in the background

All right we talked about baseball We gotta get out of here Goodbye everyone Goodbye everyone