The Ringer NFL Show - 2024 QB Arguments, NFL Schedule Release, and the New Utah Hockey Team Name

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

LIVE SHOW in Los Angeles on July 30: Click below for tickets! Jared Goff signed a monster contract extension with the Lions, what does it mean for the QB market? (3:58). Next, the guys fight over the most interesting fantasy quarterbacks going into next season and place them into categories, including the hardest player to rank, the hipster pick, post-hype sleepers, and much more (12:43). Emails! Plus, potential Utah NHL team names, “DK, tell us about the war, grandpa,” and Merriam-Webster tweeted at us (48:10). Tickets: https://www.theelrey.com/events/detail/564772 Hardest to Rank (16:16) BONK! (21:23) The Hipster Pick (25:27) Sleepers (31:47) Post-Hype Sleepers (34:27) The Ricky Bobby “If You Ain’t First, You’re Last” Guy (44:02) Beta Testing (46:37) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Search Ringer movies on YouTube and Experience the Joy, Chris Ryan impersonating Wayne Jenkins on camera. Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck and we are going to fight about quarterbacks today. We're going to go through the players, quarterbacks, that caught our eyes for better or for worse, doing our quarterback rankings among all our fantasy football rankings at fantasyfuthorpeaw.com. We have a topic of going to there.

We're also going to talk. Jared Goff got extended. The schedule got, well, released is the wrong word. Somewhat. Released? The NFL leaks a game and then pretends it was a leak, which is funny. but we're going to go through the two games we already know about, and then we're also going to go through some dumb emails. The audacity that the NFL has to leak one game as though we're like starving shoulder on the street.

Like, please. Throwing a scrap. Give it, we'll take anything. Bengals, peace week two. Thank you. Oh, my God. But first, the Ringer is hosting. It's first ever residency this summer in Los Angeles,

series of shows at the El Ray Theater and the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. That's us. We'll be there, baby. We're doing it. We're really. doing it. We're doing it. We'll be doing a live show. Home game for Craig.

Home game for Craig. We will be doing a live show at the L. Ray Theater in Los Angeles on Tuesday, July 30th. That is Tuesday, July 30th at the L.Raeitherto. You can get your tickets right now at the ringer.com slash events whereas Craig would say, in the episode

description, click the link. Craig, how much are they? Four small increments of $25. $25. Or just, that's what the lions are paying. For one Jared Gough contract, you can be the only person to attend our live show. It's July 3rd. If we'll be right as training camp is opening up, you can, you know, we'll have our rankings up.

You can see me mispronounce words live. Craig will be in the dying twilight of his 20s because he turns 30 like days later. By the way, there was a, uh, just doxing me. I told Craig I watched anything but you last night. There was a line that really got like really got to me. he's worried about getting old and it reminded me a little bit of you, Craig and Hype,

that's worrying about that 30, that age cliff. And he says, I'm 29. And then the mother of the bride says, honey, nobody's 29. That's true.

That's true. Turn 29. Everyone's like, you're 30. No, it's so true. I've been saying this where it's like,

I'm worried about turning 30. And I'm like, I've been 30. I was talking to Kai the other day and I bought these little bowls that look like lechrizase, but you can, Cook saying intellect and serve it in a bowl.

And I'm like, but I'm thrilling. And I'm like, I'm 30 already. I'm like, when you're 29 and other people are 30 or 31, like in my friend group, every time I say I'm 29, they get annoyed and they're like, shut up, dude, you're 30. When you start like actually following interest rates, you're fucking 30. It doesn't matter. I'm trying to tell as many people now that I'm 29 so that when I turn 30, they won't ask for probably a whole other year. So I'll kind of still be 29 in their eyes.

Anyway, the show's on Tuesday, July 30th, 8 p.m. Tickets available right now, right now. Come see us.com slash events. Or, yeah, just go do the link, as Craig would say. The ringer.com slash events. Okay, let's get to it. Jared Goff. Lions have signed Jared Goff to a four-year contract for, what is it,

four-low payments of $99 or, no, it's four-year contract extension for $170 million guaranteed. So $212 million overall, the money's weird. But basically, Jared Goff's getting $53 million. million dollars a year. I know. Yeah, DK, when you hear that, Jared Goff and $53 million a year, is your first thought, holy shit?

Or is your first thought, yeah, man, how's the quarterbacks get paid? Both? I don't know, like. Good work. Part of me is like, yes, this is just the new normal for every quarterback is now the highest paid quarterback for a couple of months and then someone else gets signed. Like, Dak Prescott at some point is going to get signed here. By the way, what are the Cowboys doing?

And then we'll stop talking about Jared Goff. But yeah, the initial reaction is there's a little bit of sticker shock there. I mean, Jared Goff is good, but is he, is he that good? It's getting paid more than Patrick Mahomes, eight million more than Patrick Mahomes on a yearly basis. Is that right? That's why. It's not only is it, is it right? If you look at just average salary, the gap between Jared Goff and Patrick Mahomes is bigger than the gap between Patrick Mahomes and Daniel Jones.

I got a question for you guys. So I feel like, you know, especially in the NBA, but it's like, you know, the cap's going up. these numbers are getting astronomical. They're kind of harder to put into context. You don't really know what's a lot or what's a little nowadays. It used to be if you made $30 million, it's a huge deal. And now we're getting in the 50s. Why don't we think about or why don't we discuss contracts in terms of percentage of total

cap rather than just a number? Like, shouldn't it be like Jared Goff is making 9% of the team's cap compared to Patrick Mahomes, who's making 7%. Like maybe that would be a more interesting way to kind of build context because these numbers sound fake. That's actually a really good point, Craig. And it's kind of the same way where it's like it eggs used to cost less than $4. So yeah, you know what I mean? It's like kind of like in some way the same as everything else is the Guinnessville's making more money. But to that point, I actually was looking into that this morning because I had the same thought where it's like this

sounds insane. And I'm old enough to remember when $25 million was the highest paid quarterback contract ever per year. And so now you look at golf at 53. I think the short answer is that quarterbacks are also making more money as a percentage of the cap. In some way, we've caught him back seven years ago. Like, there was this weird game of like Aaron Rogers, the highest-paid quarterback, and Russell Wilson. And then it was like, Edjuluck. And then it was fucking Derek Carr.

Every five years, it was Kurt Cousin. Yeah. He's called him Cousin. Yeah. Craig is really going through a high-fits era right now. Dude, what have I done to you? You called it Kurt Cousin? I like a Unabomber.

Kirk Cousin. Kurt Cousin's going to have a good year this year. Kirk Cousin. that's him without the Achilles. It's just Kirk goes on. Anyway, I don't know what we're talking about. But yeah, I think that teams are paying a higher, because to your point, it used to be like,

oh, the numbers sounded big, but the percentage of the cap was unchanged. Now, actually, it's going up. And without getting too into the nitty-gritty of it, it's only a four-year deal, which is probably good for Jared Gough because he's only 29. I'll say this. Highest paid players.

Well, he's 30, really. Yeah. Honey, no one's 29. We should make that a roll for the players. nobody's 29. You're 28 or you're in your 30s? The highest paid players now by average annual salary, Joe Burrow

55 million, Jared Goff, 53 million, Justin Herbert 52 and a half. I find that funny because for all the enormous complexities that go into these contracts, which are hard to understand. At the end of the day, though, you come out the other side. And Jared Goff basically pointed at Justin Herbert

who makes 52.5 million a year and was like, I want a playoff game, he didn't. I have to make more than him. And they were like, sure. Give me one of them big checks. He's got one. That's literally... To hear him chaining my name? Like, they probably just played that at the table

until they gave him $53 million a year. Yeah, it's... He's making like a fifth of the cap to the Lions. Do you think he's a top five most important player in the team? I think yes, but I think that the flip side is... Best? Maybe.

Two is going to get $50 million a year, like this offseason. And that, I think, is crazy. I think Tua getting $50 million a year because the other guys down the pike, DeKan mentioned Dak Prescott. Brad Spielberg, he used to great work of Pro Football Focus, tweeted a couple months ago that Dak Prescott might get $200 million for three years

if he has free agency next year because the Cowboys can't franchise tag him. So Dak literally might get $60 to $70 million a year. I think two is going to get $50 million a year like this offseason. Trevor Lawrence, Jordan Love, all these guys are going to break $50 million a year. And Matt Stafford's apparently mad too.

Does two I have leverage? I mean, if the dolphins are like, hey, we're going to give you $40 million, That's the most you're getting from us. Is another team really going to go give to a 50 plus a year? You know what's so funny you say that? Dekam, I'm curious what you think?

Because I was going through pre-draft. I was like, who would trade for Tua? And I couldn't come up with any freaking teams. Like I was like the Raiders. Antonio Pierce would want them for the Raiders. I was like, Sean Payton would want them on the Broncos. I was like, I couldn't figure out who.

But I almost thinking, this is horrible to say. But if something happened to Tua and the dolphins didn't pay them and they just found someone else, I feel like it would be really good for them long term. Now, I feel like all the Dolphinsonsonsonsons is listening hate us. Oh, that's not really important Did he lead the NFL in passing last year? Yeah, I literally left the league in yards. Just saying.

They don't need them. $50 million? But that, yeah. I feel like there is, there's a tier of quarterbacks who are like the franchise elevator quarterbacks and those guys are the elite guys. There's a tier below where it's like, you know, the Jared Goffs, the Tuas, who can operate really, really highly within a system and when they have the support around them. Like, obviously, once.

Jared Goff got signed yesterday. A lot of people started tweeting out some of the splits you see with Jared Goff home and away, which are dramatic. Yeah, we're going to have to come back to that. And his numbers versus pressure, which are really, really wildly dramatically different versus like when he's kept clean versus pressure. So like, Goff to me is definitely in that tier where it's like he can operate really well when he has the system, the coaching, the players around him, the protection, all that

stuff. But he's not going to be a guy that's going to elevate a franchise. And I think I find Tua to be in that same. category. So if Tua gets 50 million, again, it's going to be like not that shocking, but also almost the exact same reaction I have with the Gough deal. It's like they're doing well, like keep it going, I guess. I agree. I also, I think Gough is better than Tua by a pretty good bit. And all the dolphins fans are not probably hate me. But to that point, you mentioned Home Road splits. This is important. Shout out Scott Barrett and Fantasy Points for pointing this out.

Jared Gough has played in exactly 17 home games and 17 away games in the last two seasons. He has missed the games. And at home, he is the fourth best quarterback in fantasy, number four. In a way, Goff is the 38th best quarterback in fantasy. Fourth, first 38th. He has more than twice as many touchdowns at home than he does on the road. Craig, you were gone at one point in the playoffs. And I talked about this.

But our theory is that Jared Goff is one of those people who can't poop on a trip. forgot about that and you're going on a long plane trip Craig you're going on a safari to Kenya in a couple weeks and I'm wondering are you one of those people can't poop away from home because we think this is like probably

was happening Craig's gonna have to poop out in the wilderness and out in the bush out in the savannah literally out in the bush as they say yeah I can anybody I feel like anybody that goes on vacation usually day one or two the body kind of shuts down

I feel like you are a special Yeah, you're kind of a freak of nature if you can go anywhere in the world and just continue to be regular. Am I crazy? Are you guys just like easy poopers on the road? Yeah, I could do it. No, I'm my body gets all my stuff. Yeah, I get a little turned around. Yeah. You know, because, well, part of the things we were wondering is because the one road game, Gough played last show is really good, was in Los Angeles.

It's because he knows the toilets there. He had like his favorite stall. Yeah. You know, that is important. I think finding your preferred bathroom in any situation, your sacred throne is very important. When you're at the office, you're like, look, floor two in the back, behind the cafeteria, that's the spot.

Your body knows. Your body knows. I think it's insane that you could be like driving home, you have a 40-minute commute home. You don't have to go to the bathroom. The second you park and you're like 100 feet from your apartment, your body's like, uh-oh. Prairie, darn. There you go. When the points don't matter.

If you emails or your fancy football at gmail.com, if you're a doctor can explain that to us about how your body knows. and also, if you already did, I'm sorry, then reply to us because I'm fascinated in my head body. Search the emails because I'm sure there's, I'm sure there is one in there. So there you go. Jared Goff, now you got to, now you've got to be able to poop on the road, buddy. That's what the money's for. Okay.

I want to go through, I want to, do you guys want to talk about the quarterback, the position overall? Again, we're doing fancy football. Dotterringer.com. You can go to our rankings there. I, going through our quarterback rankings here, and it's a composite of all three of our rankings. I am so struck by how. deep the position of quarterback is. Like we have,

Dak Prescott is our eighth quarterback. He led the NFL in touchdown passes last year. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is the ninth quarterback in our rankings. Jordan Love is the 10th quarterback. He had the second most passing touchdowns last year. Jared Goff, 16th. He was second in passing yards.

Tua, 17th. He literally led the NFL in passing yards. And so I look at, I know you guys have to stay in for 10 team leagues, but it is the majority of leagues. If you're in a 10 team league, like, do you just have to have Superflex? I don't know, I'm torn because on one hand,

there's 70 quarterbacks played last year, but on the other hand, we're implying that like Aaron Rogers, who as Achilles and crazies he may be, when two MVPs, like a few years ago, and we're saying he's like a third-string quarterback. I don't know. Should you just be playing Superflex at this point

because there's so many freaking quarterbacks? I mean, I love Superflex. I think it more closely resembles the real game. Not that that really matters, but like quarterbacks are the most important players in basically any. sport. If that sounds like gibberish, Superflex is just adding a spot that you can play two quarterbacks if you want. Superflex is preferable over two QB leagues. Because Superflex basically

is you could flex any player. You can flex a quarterback, tight end, receiver, running back. So there's a buy week and your guys are on buy. It's fine. You're not totally aft. In Superflex leagues, quarterbacks are like the first picks because there's twice as many quarterbacks. So now my Holmes goes first or Lamar Jackson goes first, which is like real life. But I look at this and I'm like, I don't know, Craig, what do you make of this? Like, Jared Goff is the 16th quarterback in this. He's getting $53 million a year. It doesn't make me sense. Yeah, it's funny. Quarterback and Tide End are as deep as it seems like they've ever been heading into this year in fantasy. And so if you had, if you're in a single QB league, man, like I, you can wait till, you know, round eight probably and get like Jordan Love and be totally fine. I'm a huge proponent of Superflex. It's so much more fun. I definitely recommend it. I mean, the fact that you can have two, you can be starting two quarterbacks. and you can draft C.J. Stroud in the third round.

And then wait and get, you know, Matt Stafford can be your second quarterback and you can get him 10 rounds into the draft. It's so much more fun. Also, like, quarterback is the funest position to watch in fantasy. It's just more fun to have two anyway. So Brock Purdy, you know, we have him 94th. Brock Purdy is the greatest quarterback of all time. He's better than Tom Brady.

He's like not even on our top 12th. And he costs one one hundredth of what they're paying Jared Gough. He actually. I think. Is that right? Right now? Something like that. Less, yeah.

What was he making a year like 800K or something? No, that's, that actually is true. My favorite, my favorite Brock Purdy number was that Deshawn Watson gets more per game than Brock Purdy gets per year, which is astonishing. So yeah, I just overall, I just think that if you're, if you've just in a one quarterback league, I really would push your league to like consider Superflex just on the idea that like Stafford, Deshawn Watson, or Aaron Rogers would be a third straight straight quarterback this Like one of those guys or Kirk Cousins.

Like one of those people will just straight up be a third string quarterback for someone. It's not yet. When you're in a one QB league, it's no fun to just look at the waiver wire and like Justin Herbert sitting there. Like that is not how it's insane. Like it just doesn't, I don't know. It doesn't align. I think this. Now watch every quarterback and harder suck, but I just, that was my main takeaway going into this.

So with that said, I want to go, we can do some categories here. I want to start with hardest player to rank. And this is just as we were going through like some things we were thinking. I thought the hardest player to rank by far from me was to Sean Watson, the quarterback for the Browns. It was easy for me because I'm like, I'm not drafting this guy. Deshawn Watson has played 12 games in three years.

Yeah, and he's been the worst of literally all the quarterbacks at the Browns have. It seems pretty easy to me. What more do you need? He's terrible and he never plays. When you put it that way, it does sound easy. I think what's weird is that he was literally

top five quarterback in real life and in fantasy every years on the Texans. And then he's been on the Browns. He's been like bottom five, and that feels generous. I don't know. I think that there's an obvious case that he could be good this year.

I don't know. I think the other thing with Deshaun is like, it's impossible to put in a ranking, but it's like, do you want to be the guy that is Deshawn Watson on your team and that every week in the group chat? It doesn't matter what you say in the group chat,

you're going to get made fun of for being, for having Deshawn on your team, harboring him on your fantasy roster. Especially because this is now like the sequel. Like you already had that happen last year. You were like, all right, this is the year. Maybe like Deshawn will go back to 2020, Texans Deshawn.

He was terrible. and if you just ran it back again? He's not only is he controversial. He's also awful. I don't think I judge you if you take to Sean Watson, but I will make fun of you. That's the way I look at him.

I don't even have anything to add here. It's just like, yeah. I'm with Craig. He's not even like on my radar when I'm talking about who I'm going to pick. All right, you guys don't think it's hard. Whatever. Fine.

Fuck you. What's your hardest player to rank, Craig? I had a tough time with Trevor Lawrence this year. I just feel like, Trevor Lawrence is in a weird spot right now where I feel like everyone's kind of off of him and he was this big star and you know it's like

you guys ever watch Lost this TV show? Yeah, I didn't actually. You remember the lead guy Matthew Fox he played Jack Shepard? Yeah, we have to go back. What's he doing now? What's Matthew Fox doing now?

I think we're like two seasons away from people being like, what's Trevor Lawrence doing? Man, he was like the biggest character on the biggest show on television and now he's just disappeared. There's two cases to make for Trevor Lawrence. one is that if you look at his sophomore season

the year after Urban Meyer he was great the last seven they like finally turned it on the last seven weeks of the year he was like a top five guy across the board every advanced stat they won the AFC South they had that insane comeback against Justin Herbert and the charges in the playoffs where Lawrence threw four picks

and then came back and through four touchdowns and won they were down 27 to zero and then last year Lawrence was like fringe top five and then now after last year CJ Stroud and Jordan Love kind of market-corrected Trevor Lawrence and are now like what we thought Trevor Lawrence is going to be

which makes me think like is C.J. Stroud or Jordan Love going to have a Trevor Lawrence year this year. But looking back at year three with Trevor Lawrence is such a weird season because it was kind of like the most unlucky year ever. No team had more drops and almost touchdowns than the Jags last year. I just forgot where the lines were. Ian Harditz. Maybe I'll tweet this out. Ian Harditz put up a great tweet of every like almost touchdown the Jags had. It's like a minute and a half. and every play takes like five seconds. So, I mean, there was literally like 25 plays of like Calvin Ridley almost catching a touchdown.

Lawrence led the league by drawing 18 defensive pass interferences. He led the league in picks as a result of drops. It was like that year when DeAndre Swift just like kept running to the one and Jamal Williams would score all the touchdowns for the Lions. So I don't really know what to do. I still kind of get the ick from Trevor Lawrence now. I don't know why, but I also still think he's really good. So I don't really know what to do with him. This makes me like him so much more.

This makes me super excited about him. because you're absolutely right. Like every week, it was so frustrating. And, you know, like the video that you referenced with Ian Hart, it's like Calvin Ridley catching a touchdown pass. And then it's reviewed, oh, he had his heel down on the backline. You know, and it's like that just again and again and again over and over. And also, by the way, like Christian Kirk missed a lot of time.

Like, he was a really big factor for them throughout much of the season. And Lawrence himself was hurt. He had a bad knee injury in like week six and everybody thought he was going to miss a ton of time and he ended up just wearing a brace. Dude, he's he's like plastic man. He's the most flexible human being on earth. And then he had a high ankle spring, week 13, that he played through too. I think he's really tough.

He's not 29 or 30. He's got them young limbs. Also, and then they added Brian Thomas Jr. in the draft. I don't know. I'm kind of bullish on this. When you talk through it, it makes me more excited about Trevor Lawrence than I was. But you say that, though, but then you look at like our rankings and it's like, okay, who would you actually take him over?

I mean, are you taking him over guys like Jordan Love, Joe Burroughs, C.J. Stral. Tyler Murray? No. People like Trevor Lawrence is the reason I probably will not have C.J. Stroud this year because you can legitimately get Trevor Lawrence 60 spots later than C.J. Stroud. And I love C.J. Stroud. But like, that's crazy to me. Yeah, honestly, it might be a name brand, off brand like Stroud to Lawrence. Stroud right now in our rankings is 54. He's the QB7. And Lawrence right now is the QB15. I mean, That's crazy. Switching gears here next up,

we have the six to midnight guys. What does six to midnight mean, Hyvitz? Well, it means guys you're excited for, you know, around midnight, you know?

By the way, we're teaching Calvin how to read a clock right now. And so explain what six to midnight means. Six to midnight is, you know, guys are going. The clock. Yeah,

the hands. It's a Cinderella reference, right? Clock turns 12. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Anyway,

my bonka, the guy that you're going to have to bong me for for being just way too excited about him. It's Anthony Richardson for the cults. I feel like every year, there's three guys. Like, we do all this prep and all this work. And at the end of the day, there's like three players every year that if you draft them, your odds of making the championship, like triples.

Which is you took that one person. And to me, Anthony Richardson's like very clearly that guy this year. Like Anthony Richardson is, you know, we also have another category that's like the Ricky Bobby first or last guy. Fine, put him here. Anthony Richardson has shoulder injury, maybe he'll get hurt. But the game he got hurt last year and they ended up setting down his season. Anthony Richardson at 18 points in like 17 minutes of real game time.

And I'm like at that. I'm like, okay, cool. Point a minute. I'll take that. Like, he had four rushing touchdowns and four games. Anthony Richardson is like, to me, he's like Lizaun Al-Gaib, and I am Javier Bardem. And I'm just like, I'm in.

And he is, he represents something that I don't think anyone else brings outside of Josh Allen. And I just, he's my guy. 6-4-24 pounds runs a 4-4-340. This is the guy that. you want this is the you know the prince that was promised as you said i've it's the he's on al gaib um yeah i'm just looking at week two he had 17 points and he completed six passes like this is the guy that could break fantasy especially if he turns out to be as strong of a pastor

as i think a lot people think he can be they've bulk they've bulked up their offensive weapons around him they drafted a d mitchell michael pittons there josh downs that he's working out in Florida working really hard as opposed to working soft. He's like, you know, he's working on football. They said he was working hard. Oh, yeah. They said he's working really hard and he looks great. Not really.

They say he looks great. No one said that about Jared Goff. Stop the presses. By the way, you know how I went on that huge rant about pro days during the draft season? The, all the practice, like the rookie mini camp videos that people are sharing is really testing my patience right now. There's literally just play in.

catch out there. They're out there playing catch. No defenders. No helmets. When I complain about the training camp videos, why do I get so, it's such shit? Because it's you. I'm not going to lie. I think I could be. I just saw there was like a play of Roman Wilson on the Steelers, the rookie out of Michigan, like catching a one-handed pass. Again, in street clothes against no one. Like, I think I could do that. Like, I think I could make a one-handed catch if, you know, Russell wasn't lobs me some ball. We should make a rookie minicamp video when we all go to LA for our life show. Yeah, we're just going to like the UCLA track and just like throwing some balls

and we'll just cut together a little plucked it. Highlander. I agree. Hi, Vince. I think all of our bonk is kind of Anthony Richardson, which to me is like we all need to run away fast. This is like Tony Pollard all over again.

We should have the reverse Seinfeld where you know, like you have to turn your key to break up with someone. If we all agree on something, we have to have a blood pack that we just do that. like we can't actually agree in anything. It just feels like he's going to have 40 fantasy points in week one and everyone's going to be like, oh, fuck, this guy's Ken Newton. Wait, we should call it the Costanza, the turn your key.

If we all agree, we have to go in on the opposite, just to be out on Anthony Richardson. Like, that's the smart thing to do. However, I just really don't want to do that. Also, he's going to be the most popular quarterback taken in drafts. If you're in a league of people who are like diehard football fans, Anthony Richardson is going to be the hottest ticket in town. Like it's still probably going to be Mahomes, Lamar and Josh Allen. But Anthony Richardson is going to creep up there into the, you know, same price range as those other guys.

I guarantee it. Next up we have the hipster, which is the, again, this is the end. The Jay Award from This is the End when he's like, I bet you hate four movies that are popularly beloved. Like, I bet you hate Forrest Gump. And that's what this is for is. I bet you hate players. He's like, yeah, it's a bag of shit. Life is like a box.

chocolates? He's like, yeah, it's a shitty line and a shitty movie. Forest Gump's good. We just did it on the rewatchables. The DC show that you did six blocks from my house when I wasn't here. I know. I went as Forest Gump for Halloween one year. Me and a couple of my buddies were Forrest Gump through the ages. So I was shrimp and boat captain, Forrest Gump. Another one of my buddies was, I just felt like running Forrest Gump. and the other guy was just sitting on the bench with the chocolates.

You know, I can't believe that of all the iconic restaurants that have been, like, created in movies, that Bubba Gump's is the one that made it. Right. Like, I feel like there's probably 20 other options that are cooler than, like, a fucking shrimp restaurant. Bum go. That is so true. I've never even eaten there, too. Do they actually just serve all the shrimps that they...

Shrimps. I ate their ones. Shrimps salad. like 10 years ago. That's about it. It's a great movie. I actually love that movie. Emails at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com

you have an idea of other restaurants from other movies that would definitely slap. That would definitely work. Got us invested in some fruit company. Tom Hanks is like incredibly good in that movie. He's not getting enough credit. Imagine if anyone else tried to play, the degree of difficulty of playing for Scott. That could have been so terrible.

Craig, Craig, you probably love this movie because he has, you know, normalized coming fast, like he has one of the all-time fast coms in that movie. I believe it's his first one. That scene is really awkward. I know. Bill spent like five minutes on that as a live show. That makes sense. And then the best part of that scene is it like zooms out at the end and you see

Jenny's roommate awake in the other bed staring at the wall. Oh my God. And the other one with the mom is brutal. But he's like sitting on the swing set while the mom tries to get him into school. Oh, yeah. Your mama sure do want you to. Sure do you value your schooling or whatever. Get what he says.

He's like buckling up his belt. It's like 93 degrees out. Sweltering. Anyway, force. Yeah. Yeah, the play. Yeah, the play you don't like that everyone else likes. I'm not saying I don't like this player,

but I don't know if I'm all the way there with Kyler Murray. I feel like everyone's kind of in on the comeback. Everyone's coming around. Well, I'm not, Doug. This man is 5'9. He is extremely short. He hasn't played a full season since the pandemic year. He's had one season with over 425 rushing yards.

He's heading into year 6. The weapons around him are fine. He's so small. He's fun. I think Kyler Murray's fun because it's like Scott Hanson. You cut to Kyler Murray. Oh, and it's like a yakety-sackety-hacket highlight, you see? Just zooming around. Of him running 50 yards to actually just get 10.

But I don't know. I don't know if I'm willing to kind of rest the fate of my team on his shoulders. Where are you guys at with Kyle? I don't know. He's never really done it for me. I don't know why he would now. I understand. I definitely understand the trepidation with him. And it goes back to like even since the beginning of his career, he's always been just a little bit weird too in like interviews and stuff like a little surly and strange and it's like oh god I don't know what to think about this guy well and then it came out that he's he's addicted to video games right right yeah when does the next one come out when's the next call of duty because I gotta check that

it's always November but like I don't know at the same time I am excited about him just because another year of health in terms of like coming back from the injury oh guys October 2020 24, October 24, new call of duty. That's relatively early in the season. Wow, that is early. Free Halloween called. Sell high. Sell high on Kyler.

He's probably getting the advanced copy, too. Yeah, you're right. I will say, so the reason I like Kyler is he's just, to me, I mean, maybe I just guess he's to me like a post type sleeper in a way. Like, I like Kyler because he's what we always say we like, which is he's the year after the year after the ACL recovery. Like last year he came back and he was himself, but at the end of the day, I And I feel this way too because one of my sleepers is Jaden Daniels for Washington, the rookie quarterback.

And then my post type sleeper, I probably have Kyler. And honestly, it's the same thing. How many quarterbacks could plausibly lead the league at like passing yards or passing touchdowns? Right. A lot. Like 12. How many quarterbacks could run for 10 touchdowns this year? Josh Allen is going to go first.

Lamar Jackson is going to go second. Jalen Hurts is going to go third or fourth. Richardson. then it's Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray, Jaden Daniels. That's it. There's six guys, three of them are the first three picks at quarterback.

And so those other, it's just supply and demand of there's like outside of those quarterbacks at the top. There's still like eight or ten quarterbacks that I could take like to a goff. Like I just throw a dart, you're going to hit someone who might lead

the league in passing yards. It's just the supply and demand of the ceiling of and the floor of the rushing quarterback, Kyler Murray, Jaden Daniels, and Anthony Richards. I think are so much more valuable because again, you could just trip and fall into

Kirk Cousins than his Falcons team, like later with your last pick. I think the passing thing is another variable too. There's a world in which he could have the best passing season of his career. He's got Tram McBride still ascending as one of the best tight ends, best young tight ends in the game.

You know, add in Marvin Harrison, got our boy Dorch there still. Marvin Harrison Jr., Greg Dorch, best one two in the league. Really? We got to get pictures of them standing next to each other. What's Greg Dorch, like 5-6, 5-7? That was my sleeper.

I'm curious, D.K., who's your other sleeper quarterback? So this is a really deep, deep sleeper. You know, obviously, this is more of a superflex thing than anything. But Will Levis, the vascular king. Billy Jeans. I just think that what they've done around him offensively is intriguing at the very least. Calvin Ridley, they just signed Tyler Boyd. they added a pass catching back in Pollard.

You know, Tajay Spears is a pretty good pass catching back. They drafted in the first round, J.C. Latham to upgrade their offensive line. They have a new offensive coordinator. Brian Callahan, who was never afraid to go pass heavy when he was with the Bengals. Add in the fact that the Titans have the sixth hardest schedule, according to sharp football, which implies more passing in theory. You know, they're not going to, I don't feel like this is a team that's going to be able to just, like, run the ball and do nothing with their quarterback and just try and protect Will Levis.

It's like they're probably going to have to play from behind a lot. Add in, and he didn't really do this as a rookie, but he's also a very good athlete. He could run around a lot. He was actually like a Tayson Hill type QV early in his college career before he started doing more pro-style stuff. What does that mean? Like there's a lot of things that could be into a lot of different people. Taysam Hill.

He was running a lot. They used him as like a like on quarterback draw plays like Cam Newton like where, you know, like he just dropped back and he just dropped back and he just dropped back and he starts running. And then add in like the fact that he has that Josh Allen trade of just not giving a flying fuck about his body. He just will do it. He just does not. He blacks out when he starts running and he'll take on anybody. Kind of like Forrest Gump. Yeah. Just point down the down the field and go run, force, run. And he'll do it. I don't know. A lot of things have to come together, obviously, for him to be a factor. But there's a lot of variables here that makes me think he's

kind of interesting. He's just got like that don't give a fuck vibe that I like. And he could run around a little bit more than we think. And obviously he could be a little bit better pastor than we think. Levis just had like a lot of moments where you kind of like watched him make this insane play and you're like, wow, there is something here a little bit. The O-line was so bad last year in Tennessee that I don't know, like half the plays he like couldn't, he didn't have two seconds to make a decision. Yeah. And he loves throwing deep. I think it was that first game he came in you through like four touchdowns. Yeah. He just chucks it to DeAndre Hopkins. Maybe he could be this year's Bortles. Whatever that that legendary Bortals season where it's like everyone knows he's not the guy.

but he's sneaky putting up numbers in this team that's also overperforming. Yeah. Garbage time. There's a lot of, there's a lot of Bordels to him for sure. So I know, especially in Superflex, he's just type of guy I'm like late, take a flyer on him. Why not?

He's a great, like, third quarterback to have on your team. What about a post-hype sleeper D.K.? So I'm going with Joe Burrow. It feels a little bit, like you mentioned it earlier. He's our ninth quarterback this year. It feels like we've forgotten what the real Joe Burrow is like, because of his really just truncated and injury marred season last year. So obviously he had the wrist injury that cost him most of the season.

But before that, it's easy to forget that he had a strained calf. Like I think it was the second practice, the first practice of OTAs. He strained his calf. He's never healthy in August. He's that first practice he gets hurt every year. Yeah. And so that severely limited what they were doing. Basically, it was just like Craig said, park and park.

Like they would just snap the ball and he would try and get rid of the ball as quickly as possible without moving. And that completely, according to then O.C. Brian Callahan, it completely derailed what they wanted to do. And go back to and by the way, Burrow average 14 points per game. He was essentially

unstartable even though he was a really high pick. And then go back to 2022, 4,500 passing yards, which is fifth most, 35 passing touchdowns, second only to Mahomes. He also rushed for 250 yards and five touchdowns. ended up as the QB4. And this is just one year ago, 2022. So he averaged so much 22 points per game.

And I feel like people are kind of forgetting that. They still have an elite receiving core. They added a guy this year. The T. Higgins is still going to be playing here. And he'll be more healthy in theory. I don't know, man. And they also got rid of Joe Mixon. So in theory, maybe this means it'll be a little bit more pass heavy.

I'm just excited about what Burrow can do with what he's healthy. And when he has this receiving core kind of all around him. There's one thing, have you guys seen some of the reports lately about the wrist injury that Burrow had last year? And like how it's kind of felt recovering. And he basically was like, these last few months have been terrible. And even now he's like, I can't find another quarterback who's had this injury. The only people who've had it are like linemen. And so like we obviously do very different things.

And they don't need the wrist mobility I do. And I don't know. I think there's like, I think there's a little bit of fear with me with his wrist. of like re-injury. I don't know. Burrough seems a little bit brittle to me. Right. Well,

that was a worry with him coming out is because he's like kind of tall and skinny. I don't know. Dude, the wrist is a really, like ligament issues in your wrist as a young quarterback is like one of this probably

the scariest things you could have. The way you just said that of just like, yeah, I can't find any of the quarterbacks have had this. Like that is such a, I'm out.

Like, and for that reason I'm out. Like, this is a shark tank. Like, I'm not even fucking listening. Oh, you guys, he'll be fine. You know those like, look, I saw some like fake pseudo doctor on Twitter being like, who knows, maybe they were a real doctor, but you never know.

But those things are so persuasive. Like, anytime you see a guy pretending to be a doctor tweeting, you're kind of all the way in. But he was like, oh, yeah, with this specific injury, da-da-da, I think there's a 25% chance of re-injury. And the second I read that, I was like, I'm out. Dude, 25% is low. That's fine. People get hurt in football.

Yeah, but that's, in addition to all the other normal injuries that could happen. And this is, you know, him just, he could just throw a football and hurt his wrist without getting hit. Well, this is why he's getting pushed down in theory. Yeah. And so I'm scooping him up. I'm in. I'm not worried about it. I can't.

The fact that you could just get Dak Prescott slightly before or Jared Gawford to a way after, I would just. Oh, my God. I would so much rather have bro than golf or two. Are you kidding me? But it's not like at the same slot. I'm saying you can get them again for basically nothing. Yeah, go for it. Yeah.

This I feel very strongly about. Like I would so much rather have Burrow than any of those guys below him. He has like he has elite upside. None of those guys do. I know. I like, I'm like right in the middle. I don't really know.

I love Burrow. And he does have that upside. He's proven it. He was like the top, what is it, three or four quarterback two years ago in the Super Bowl year. But yeah, there's just something about the injury.

I don't know. That gives me pause. My post type sleeper is Patrick Mahomes. Post type? You won the Super Bowl. Post type fantasy sleeper. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Patrick Mahomes is not even a top 10, top 10 quarterback last year. He was a QB 12 behind Justin Fields and Kirk Cousins. Bad year, it won the Super Bowl. No, I don't know. I'm more saying, like, if he even drops, like, one to two spots in your draft, like I'm going to be going hard on Mahomes this year, if there's just like a little bit of Chiefs fatigue or Mahomes fatigue or somebody who spent 65 bucks on him last year and he stunk,

I think they're going to throw more this year. They've added Marquise Brown, Xavier Worthy, Rishie Rice, is probably going to get suspended. We don't know. plus Cadarius Tony this could be Travis Kelsey's last year and they're definitely going for this three Pete I think this is going to be like a theme of the whole year

is like this team is going to say like all right like Travis Cali I kind of feel like if they win the Super Bowl Travis Kelsey's out and he's like this is going to be my final year so they're kind of going all in this year and they're clearly adding so much more speed and explosiveness to this team and I just kind of want to be back in on the homes

I mean two years ago he threw for 5,200 yards and 41 touchdowns and last year was kind of a mess and the team wasn't very good and the offensive line was really beat up and they're kind of like putting that all back together. So he might be like the guy I just want to take number one overall.

I like this. In the super flex draft you're saying. Yeah, super flex draft or just in a single QB league he would be my number one over Josh Allen. I like that he threw Cadarius Tony's name in there. Look, Reed said it. What did he say? Reid was like he could still be the most talented receiver we have.

Yeah. He could be because they don't know because he's never there. he's not sure. Best ability is availability. Yeah, Mahomes is good. I do like this, though. I know that this is obviously kind of tongue and cheek. Like he's obviously not a fucking post type sleeper.

But I'm just kind of like, I want to make sure that I know that I'm in on Mahomes as like my number one guy. And also on that note, the NFL schedule, they've like announced like a couple games. So the season opener slaps, it's Ravens at Chiefs. And then week two is Bengals Chiefs, which is sweet. And so, I mean, Burrow, my homes, they're really going for it. Also, I believe this year, isn't there a Friday game as well in Brazil? In Brazil. The Eagles are playing in Brazil on a Friday.

And I believe one of the reasons they're doing on Friday, it's bold because there's a, the reason that there's not like Friday NFL games is actually there's a law that allows. A high school football thing, right? Yes. It's the actual calendar of football is actually based on a law. They passed in like the 60s called the National Broadcasting Act. and it's like high school footballs for Fridays, college footballs for Saturdays for the NFL football.

That's why the Saturday games in the NFL begin after college football ends. And I think that I have to, I think that the reason they're going to Brazil is to like skirt this fucking law. I don't know, but it's called football. That's not why they're going to Brazil.

I don't know how they're allowed. They have to, I can't sue. No extradition. They're like, come at us. I have diplomatic immunity. So, so, but this is, is the opening Friday.

So we're going to have a game Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday to open the week, right? Classic. Yeah, they're just going for it. They're just absolutely going for. I hate it. I know how if you don't like when people say this sucks, but I'm, I think it sucks. Like the whole Christmas slate once that was announced where it's like going to be Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday. It's like Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday over Christmas break.

Like, what are we doing? Football. When people of free time. Also, it does feel like more so than ever. This might just be because we have more media out there. So we kind of like know what's going on behind the curtain more than we ever have. But it really does feel like the NFL scheduled now is becoming more of just like sticker value than ever before where they are just trying to figure out any way they can to get marquee names on every single prime time show. Like I feel like it used to be like, oh, Jags, Titans Thursday Night Football.

It's like, that's gone. If there is a single game with no competition on. Any day of the week, it is going to be a good game. I think that what happened is Thursday football was an NFL network product. And they were trying to, they basically took the slop and we're like, you'll watch. It's kind of like, you'll watch anything. He's sicko. Yeah, big mouth when he's like, sleep in it big.

You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I think they're just like, Titans Jags. Thursday football and NFL network fucking sleep at it. And then they sold it to Amazon. And Amazon's like, yeah, we're going to take the nice shit. And then they started like, they launched it with Mahomes Herber. And now it's like what Josh Allen, Bill's Dolphins is going to be that Thursday. Like they're just, they're like, what if the watching experience is really good too.

Like the Prime Vision stuff is insanely awesome. Amazon, I love it. It's great. Yeah. Well, they did a good job because they basically used NBC to produce their games for them because they have the experience and it's, it's been a great move. But yeah, like even dude, back of the day and by that I mean like five years ago, I feel like even some of the Monday, even some of the Monday night football games weren't. that good. It was like, oh, Raiders Titans, Monday night football. Oh, well, ESPN

was pissed. ESPN bitched about it too. Rightfully so, because they just got shafted by the NBC. They're spending billions of dollars. That's why they got, I think that's one of the reason it's got the extra NBC, there's more Monday night games now. I think ESPN was like, dude, what the fuck, man? So I think, I'm sure, for the casual fan, you're right. This is probably

great. Every primetime game that's on is a good game. But for the three of us, my God. For our marriages, hyphen, my fiance's birthday is on Christmas Eve. No, it's not great that, you know, it was Christmas Eve football for me, but it's fine. Ricky Bobby, first or last? This is just, I mean, for me, it's just Anthony Richardson for all of us to a degree.

I don't know if there's another non-Anthony Richardson guy, but to me, when I think of the person who will win me my title or lose me or win me the last place punishment, I think of Anthony Richardson. I think Richardson's on there. I think you could probably slot Kyler into this category too because, like, the injury concerns. For the five-foot-nine guy, I want to score 10 rushing touchdowns. Honestly, you could probably throw Jane Daniels in there, like, who could just be

awful. Right. Yeah. They're all, they're all, they're all, those are my Ricky Bobby darlings. Um, the other guy I want to throw in here is Aaron Rogers. And, you know, look, maybe he gets hurt again almost immediately because he's a decrepit 41 year old man. Uh, maybe he's just gone too far down the rabbit hole and he's too busy worrying about, you know, how many conspiracy theories there are in the world? Like, how does he have time to study football? That's what I want to know. Tired earth is flat, wired earth is hollow. Whoa. Is he in on that? I think of course he's

what are you talking about he's referenced that I believe Is there any conspiracy he's not in on Earth is hollow? Dude, it don't even get me started man It's read up on it Craig You should look into that Okay But it's easy to forget

I guess it's not that easy to forget Like obviously he won the MVP two years in row 2020 and 2021 This is not that distant of a past So in 2021, 37 touchdowns to four picks 2020, 408 touchdowns to five picks And he was the QB3 that year in 2021. He was QB7.

So I think he has like top five potential in theory. If he can get back to the MVP form, we've kind of written him off in the past before because he had a couple of years where he struggled there with the Packers and then he lit it up two straight MVP years. He struggled in 2022 because they got rid of Devante Adams. His top receiver was like Alan Lazard. But coming into this Jets offense,

he's got Garrett Wilson. And that's like to me his Devante Adams, you know, guy that's going to move the needle potentially help him get back to where he used to be. Obviously, there's a lot of variables here, but I think Aaron Rogers could be that guy that absolutely lights it up if he just decides to focus on football. You know that meme that's like,

I'm not going to read all that, like, happy for you or sorry that happened? That's kind of how I feel about Aaron Rogers. I'm like, I don't even want to hear the argument if it works out happy for you and if it doesn't, I'm so sorry. That's a great meme. Somebody else's problem.

I ain't reading all that. I didn't really know. Sorry that happened to you. We're sorry that. So about Roger's points for game, yeah. 48 touchdowns of five picks. Crazy. Craig's red.

I didn't really know that. All right. Next step, we have beta testing. Guys that you hate, but you had to rank. And then it's kind of like the opposite of Ricky Bobby, like first or last picks.

These are just flasked picks. They're low T. Some would say, as they say, it's always sunny, soy boy beta cuck picks. Craig, who's your soy boy beta cook? In this case, low T stands for Tua. Oh. I'm just not doing it

I know he led the league in passing and he was the QB 19 like what else what else do I need to say he led the NFL in passing and was the QB night they scored 72 points in a game and he was the QB 19 like that last year was best case scenario

he played all 17 games Tyreek almost broke the single season receiving yards record and he was the QB 19 I just like what else I don't know yeah I have no arguments. I actually should start calling him low tea?

Low tea. Low tea. I do think that the dolphins are cool and a fun team, but I just Mike McDaniel, Tyree Kill and the speed is what stirs to drink. And I just think a lot of people could step in there and be really good. I mean, like, if somebody's like you could get Brock Purdy for $25 million or $2.50, I mean, look, two is one hit away from his career being over. Like, I just, you can't give that guy $50 million. It's, it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, I, I, I, I just think the dolphins have a lot of things.

It's the short circling flabbergasted. Yeah. I just... He's still thinking about the hollow earth. I think my brain's just hollow, maybe. I don't know. All right. Again, quarterback's super deep. Do Super Flex League. Let's do some emails. Emails. Right. So we did team names.

We did team names. Did a really dumb episode last time for a 500th episode. And we went through just a bunch of team names in the NFL. And then right as we do it. Compelling and rich. Compelling and rich. as we do it, the NHL, the real life NHL tweets out that they're going to do an expansion franchise in Utah. Wait,

I already got this wrong. Are they moving the Arizona Coyotes to Utah? I just really just wait. No, expansion team, I think. It is an expansion team, right? Yeah. Okay. They're doing one of Utah and the NHL tweeted out a list. If you were to name Utah's team, what would you go with? Yeah, I voted in this. I officially voted. Craig.

What did you vote? I don't know why, but he's so proud. He's like, I'm an official voter. Smiling green ear to ear. You guys. I like have a pin on my shirt right now. It's like the people that buy shares of the packers. I voted. I officially voted for this. I skipped the election. Voted on the new

Utah NHL team, though. There's like, there's like 20 names. Read the Utah Black Diamonds. The Utah Blast, which blasts is that. You don't mean to Utah every time. Just do all this. I kind of like it, though. You like it? Okay.

You don't need to do Utah every time They literally wrote out Utah in every single I get that you kind of want to see it You have to feel it together Yeah the Utah canyons Heyo

The Utah The Utah Caribou It's just a fun word to say I don't think it's a team name though You're really prey And all the David Attenborough stuff Utah freeze The Utah Frost

The Utah Fury The Utah Fury the Utah glaciers That is the worst name I've ever heard We're giant slow We're the glaciers Like that's like the Utah hive I that's just what I don't know

The Utah It just says the Utah HC What the fuck is hockey club? Oh The Utah ice The Utah mammoth The mountain you're right about the Utah thing The mountaineers the outlaws

The powder the squaw What is a squaw? The Utah powder what could go wrong To powder oh yeah What is a squall It's a storm. Oh. Is this like I should be embarrassed or they should be embarrassed?

I've never heard of that word in my life. A sudden violent gust of wind. It's like, haven't you ever heard? Terrifying. Squall? The Utah Wind. Email is a weird. Are there a lot of bees in Utah?

I don't know. There's three more. The swarm, the venom and the Yeti. To me, that's the easy answer. The Utah Yeti. That is to me the winner. The Yeti would be a sick logo. The Utah Yeti.

Why isn't it the Yetis? I don't know, but I like it. Yeti's like deer. It's like the Stanford Cardinal. Like I want, I like Yeti. No, Yeti, plural. I don't know. I like the Utah Yeti.

I think that flows. But I don't understand why would like it's, you always make the animal plural. It's like the Chicago Bears. Yeah, not always. It's like deer, the plural of deer is deer. Is that right? The plural of Yeti is not yetis.

I don't know if it's right. I think. I assume. Plural Yeti. Yeties. You just add an S. Brian Reagan, you add an S at the end of it.

I don't know. This is right. The Britannica Dictionary.com said yes. Here are the ones I voted on. Wait, the dictionary literally tweeted us. It was tweeted the dictionary and see. Yeah, we'll get to that. I like, see, I like something that's like a person or an animal.

I don't like when it's like a weather pattern. Like they just like hit synonym for storm. or snow. I voted for outlaws, mountaineers, and outlaws. Yeah, it's kind of like the outlaws. But the Utah Outlaws? Definitely not what I think of when I think of Utah, but yes. I was going to say that too.

How many team names make you actually think of the city? You think a jazz in Utah? It's true. It's not very thematically on. Music is literally outlawed. So is alcohol. It's perfect. Well, the Utah Outlaws, it's where, you know, I'm not going to make that joke.

Mountaineers is kind of cool. What was the last one I voted for? I don't remember what. You voted for multiple names? Oh, black diamonds, I did. That's cool. Black Diamonds is cool, but it is also sort of an inanimate thing. Yeah, but it's a skiing slope.

Different. It's a hard ski slope. It's the hardest one, though. It's a dangerous mountain. Blast. What are you guys like? What do you like? I like the Yeti, man.

I just need Yeties. Make it plural. I'm in. Damn it. The freeze isn't bad. The frost. I like canyons because it made Craig go, hey-oh. I would vote black diamonds.

That was the one that stuck out to me. Yeah, that's cool. That's stunned by that. Okay. Yeah, cool. Also, like, I don't know, like, you could do cool branding. Like, the jerseys could be, like, all black. It'd be cool.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that there is a lot there. Yeah. All right. Black diamonds or outlaws. Well, we're on. Well, I like the black. it's better than that was.

But the, while we're on the mascot thing, Solak listened to our last episode and he texted us. We're talking about high school mascots and everything. Solac texted us that Solac's wife's high school, their nickname was the Rocks.

Like their actual, they were just the rocks. I, Hyvitz, you remember that episode from SpongeBob where Patrick has a pet rock and there's a rock race? If they didn't come out to,

will rock you for every football game, they don't deserve to be a school. Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com also if you have like really dumb high school names. It has to be like the rocks or something. They're not like the rocks. It has to be that dumb. Your alma mater has one of the more unique ones.

You guys are the spiders. Yeah. Where'd that come from? I don't know where it came from. Spiders are actually scary. Spiders are terrifying. Spiders are actually scary. And the mascot's scary.

They used to put the, they got a tarantial and a terrarium. They put it at a half court. Fuck with the other basketball. players during shootarounds. They actually would go near it. Intimidation. There has to be some connection, right? Like, do you don't make something?

You think they were just like spiders sound cool? Yeah. Oh, well, no. The actual name, there was some pitcher that like looked like Jared Gough and they were like, oh, long limbs, spidey. And then that was it. What? Jared Gough, what are you talking about?

No, like long-limbed pitcher like 120 years ago. Oh. The baseball team had some pitcher 120 years ago. Yeah, I didn't tell that story very well. But there was like a long limbs and then they started calling the whole baseball team. to that. I don't fucking know. Rocks is great.

The Rocks is great. Emails to their high school meds got. Also, shout out to all the people who emailed us, this Mike Clay and he's been tweeted this out, but all the undrafted free agents who signed this week,

Mike Clay gathered all the names. Shout out everyone who tweeted this at us. Craig, you want to rip through these? Sure. Again, these are undrafted free agents that signed with teams this year. To the dolphins,

cornerback, Storm Duck. That's an Alzheimer. So you don't like teams with weather pattern names. few but players with weatherbed. I think the Utah storm ducks. Have you ever seen a person with the last name duck?

Is that Daffy? Duck Hodges was first. Oh, yeah, the ducks that fly in from the north every. Those are the storm ducks. They can handle anything. Storm duck. The Raiders signed cornerback, Wu governor.

Wu W-O-O-O-Governor. I was yelling on January 6, Greg. Woo-Governor. It doesn't make any sense. But it makes just enough amount. Woo. The Bucsonor. The Bucks signed tackle Judge Cole Pepper.

Great name. Judge. Judge. The Bengals signed quarterback Rocky Lombardi. That is the most movie name I've ever heard. That's the most movie name I've ever heard in my life. Quarterback Rocky Lombardi. Is there any, the Texans have two wide receivers they brought in name.

I don't know how to say this last name. J-A-N-K-E. Yonkey? Yonkey. They have J-D-N-K-E and Jackson Yonkee. Twins. Twins, Basel. Twins, Basel.

Twins. When he, like, wipe off his glasses? He, like, fogs up his glasses and has little, like, window wipers. Jayden Yonke. Or maybe J-K-E-M-K-E. Maybe they anglicized it. Jaden Janky?

If it's not, it's just Jank. It's spelled J-A-N-K-E. I hope it's J-N-K-N-K-E. Jack J-N-K-E. It's J-A-N-K-E. Jackson Jank would be. Can you imagine? Janky?

Janky, would be unreal. Jackson Janky. Hyvitz, can you imagine if Jackie, your beloved fiancé years ago, went home to Pittsburgh for Thanksgiving to see her family and was like, I'm seeing this new guy. And they said, what's his name? And she was like, Storm Duck.

I'm going to be Mrs. Jackie Duck. Jack Duck. Oh my God, Jack Duck. Is that his real name or did he change it because he plays an organ? No, it's his real name. It was a big deal when he was a recruit because he was. Oh, he didn't play for Oregon. I love that.

His middle name is Chandler. For some reason, I thought he was Oregon. Storm Chandler Duck. It's just a really normal middle name. He was born in 2000. His parents were like, Storm Duck is the sickest name ever, but we also love to show friends. Well, he was named after Storm Logan, a character on the soap opera bowl and the beautiful.

So he probably was named after Chandler, he probably was named after Chandler Bing. If he was named after a soap opera star. I don't know what that or Wu Governor, man. Wu governor. I think people need to just have more nicknames in the outside. Who cares? We need to just be doing what Hollywood does or it's like, Tom Cruise, that's not his fucking name. players just need to make up cool names.

Yeah, that's a really good take. So, yeah, that's a really good one. Did you see there's a guy named Keaton Bills on the Bills? Bill's side, Keaton Bills. So he's going to just out his back, just have bills. Yeah, he's going to have the highest selling jersey. People are going to be very confused. Tom Cruise's name is Thomas Mapither, the fourth.

What? Get out of it. I did not know that. Mapither? Mm-hmm. Oh, my God. Also, wait, we also have to. I want to note, we had this argument, Lambass versus Lamb based.

Oh, yeah. So two things. What did the voting end up? It was like, Greg got fucking rocked. I was right. Lambast got like 85% of the vote. But more importantly, Miriam Webster, the actual F's dictionary tweeted us. The dictionary tweeted us and said both are considered acceptable.

Oh, wow. And I think it's because the both spell spell lambas and the E at the end or not because of the British or whatever. That's why there's confusion. Hyphitz put the poll up and it says lamb based like a turkey. That's the right way to do it. That's right. Maybe leading the witness a little bit towards the other side. Well, I mean, is that not how you wanted to pronounce it?

Lamb based? It's fair point. Whatever the Merriam-Webster intern is that too, the guy handling that social, they're really a great job. Yeah, they're kind of funny on the internet. Yeah. I'm not really sure why, but. How does Mark?

Why do they need to be popular, Craig? We had this discussion. Why do they need a very clever social media person? Why does the dictionary need that? Why does the Giorno's tweet like that? I don't know. See, that makes more sense. It's like you can't, I guess if you go to Merriamwebster.com, they sell ads.

They used to sell dictionaries. Yeah. They probably still still dictionaries. Yeah. To who? People read books. People have physical books. Is it like vinals?

Like people are out there buying dictionaries now? There's like an underground market of physical dictionaries. Tell us about the war, grandpa. D.K., tell us about it. I was going to say. Used to have dictionaries for a good word. You actually used to carry a dictionary around at times to look up words. Like a little one?

Why'd you carry it with you? Well, like I'm talking about when you go to school. You have like a dictionary at school. You brought your own dictionary to school? They couldn't provide you with one? Well, I don't remember, to be honest. I had a dictionary. Maybe I didn't take it to school with me every day.

Speaking of, we got an email that's both about pronunciations and tell us about the little grandpa. Okay. From Harrison. Harrison. One word that you're all pronouncing wrong is the word painstaking. It's pains and taking, not pain plus staking. Which honestly, I don't really care about that, Harrison.

The example Harrison sent along is incredible. Harrison's example is, it's like hamburger, which is originally Hamburg plus Err, then reanalyzed to be ham plus burger, which produced the word cheeseburger, which made me realize there's no fucking ham in burgers. That implies there's a town in Germany called Cheesberg. Yeah, but I'm not going to lie. So the word burger is completely made up.

Completely made up. And I never, I am 29, which basically means I'm 30. And I never actually thought about the fact that there's no fucking ham in burgers. Never thought about that before. Well, I never thought there was. I don't think there was either But I never thought about why we called it that Oh, isn't it the same thing

Like isn't, don't we call it a sandwich because it was also the name of the town? No, it was like named after the Earl of Sandwich or something That's correct It was named after a guy The Earl of Sandwich I think Yo Dude, the etymology of words is wild

But it is interesting A noble title in the peerage of England held since its creation by the house of Montague. It was Sandwich Kent, which is a town in Southeast England. Yeah, it's like Sandwich and Burger just named after like towns.

Cities. The Earl of Sandwich. How can I claim to be the Earl of Sandwich? I would like to get in on that. That is funny though. I see, I never thought about the fact that Burger was taken from Hamburg and is now its own word. The burger just means like a meat patty. but that actually has no historical, you know, reason to exist.

I saw a video of, who's the guy that played the latest Spider-Man? Tom Holland. Tom Holland. He was, somebody was interviewing him about how he had said that he doesn't like American food. And they were kind of interrogating him. So he got a little indignant about it. He was like, okay, so tell me, what is your favorite American food? And the guy, or what would you think of as American food?

And he goes, hamburger? And he goes, yeah, so that's named after Hamburg, the town of Germany. What about hot dog? And then the second one, he was like, uh, French fries and then Holland just kind of like looks at the camera. What is American food? We don't have any. Hot dogs and soda. Soda.

That's the American food, Craig says soda. Even though I know hot dog is not even American. It's like Talented nights. It's like, what did you ever invent? It's like spaghetti. It's like, Italy. It's like burritos, Mexico.

It's like, what did France ever give the world? It's like philosophy, democracy, and simple job. Yeah, who did invent soda? This is the questions that we ask.

It's the Coca-Cola guy. Craig, give us your theory. I actually just saw that there was just 150th anniversary of Coca-Cola. I just saw this. Who invented so? Joseph Priestley in England invented the carbonation process in 1767, but the process wasn't commercialized.

1767? The process wasn't commercialized until 1786 in Switzerland by a man named Jacob Schwepps. Oh. That doesn't necessarily mean ginger ale. I need to know when like a soft drink was. I think they're thinking like soda watering, just like carbonation. I feel like this rabbit hole is like that's seen in Ted Lassow when they're like trying to like the orange. origin of soccer and they're like yeah they thought it like they came up with 150 years ago they

thought it would make the kids stop masturbating didn't work good game though John Pemberton is the guy who invented Coca-Cola seems like an American man Knoxville Georgia is it is it an urban legend that there was originally actually cocaine in Coca-Cola and that's why they call it I always heard that I think it's like the coca plant but like it wasn't like they made put cocaine in the soda there's just cocaine in Coke. I don't know, man. There used to be lead in all of our foods.

Yeah, what's up with that? I'm reading about this now. When launched, Coca-Cola's two ingredients were cocaine and caffeine. The cocaine was derived from the Coca-leaf and the caffeine from the cola nut. There really was cocaine in it? But again, and maybe it's not the kind of cocaine we're thinking of. Coca-Cola once contained an estimated 9 milligrams of cocaine per glass

for comparison, a typical dose or line of cocaine is 50 to 75 milligrams. So essentially... You're micro-dosing on cocaine. Yeah, like a fifth of a bump was in a Coke. The keys back then were very small, Craig. I guess not of a bump, of a line. Oh, my God. No wonder people got into it.

It was removed in 1903. Not that long ago. There was nobody alive who can tell us what it was like to drink cocaine out of a bottle. well that's i wouldn't go that far i don't know about that all right thank you crag thank you dk thank you everyone for listening go to fantasyfutball dot the roomer dot com for our rankings

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We'll talk about Lambast and figure it out. Thank you, Lauren. And thank you, Kai for producing this episode. Kai. Thank you, Katie Perry. Dude, I was just having a conversation with my friend about Katie Perry this weekend. Her song came on or something came on and we were like, dude, what the hell? My friend was like, what happened to Katie Perry?

And I was like, she hosts like American Idol now. And like I feel like I was kind of just not really done music. Or if she, I mean, I think she is still making music. But it's crazy how much she fell off. and we went back and talked about her album Teenage Dream from 2010. Dude, let me read you the first four songs of Teenage Dream. She came out of the gate absolutely cooking with that album. No one was doing that.

Here are the first four songs. Teenage Dream, Last Friday Night, California Girls and Firework. Those are all like number one global crazy hits. When was that? What was the, is Alien on that album? Is that later? E.T. I think of.

Also on that album. Damn. Did she fall off? I had to say it, Craig, but that was like 15 years ago. And maybe it's just hard and like sitting there and doing TV money

is probably easier than trying to do whatever Taylor Swift's doing. I bet it's like Occam's razor. She's just making bank doing the show and she doesn't have to tour around and do all that bullshit

so she's hanging. Yeah, it seems hard. She's just out here being married to Orlando Bloom. She's married to Orlando Bloom. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pady Perry is married to.

I had no idea. What is he been up to? acting in various things. He's going to be the Trevor Lawrence. It's like, remember Orlando Bloom? What's he best known for? Is it for playing Legolas or is it something else? That and the Jackson Barramers.

Which again, think about those three. Those six movies did what, billions of dollars and won like Oscars. And then he just, what else has he been? And I can't even name another freaking movie. Dude, he kind of is the Katie Perry of acting. Dude. Wow. It's true.

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