The Ringer NFL Show - 49ers RB Injuries and Week 14 Waiver Wire Pickups

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 14 (1:30). Plus, emails (45:04)! RB: Isaac Guerendo (49ers), Braelon Allen (Jets), and Sincere McCormick (Raiders) (2:10  ) WR: Cedric Tillman (Browns), Nick Westbrook-Ikhine (Titans), and Michael Wilson (Cardinals) (12:11) TE: Juwan Johnson (Saints), Noah Gray (Chiefs), and Pat Freiermuth (Steelers) (26:29) QB: Russell Wilson (Steelers), Will Levis (Titans), and Jameis Winston (Browns) (38:43) D/ST: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, New Orleans Saints, and Tennessee Titans (39:38) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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and we are going through all our must add players after week 13, entering week 14, the final week of your fantasy football regular season. I hope. If not, your commissioner, probably screwed up your season. Here's how it works. We're going to go position by position. We're going to give a number one player to add at that position. And then if we have the same player, we're going to do a trivia tiebreaker.

And then someone else has to pick someone else. It's not that complicated. You will figure it out, I promise. Email to ring of fantasy football at gmail. If you have fantasy court case. We will go over. We're going to have a popping fantasy court on Wednesday this week. Can't wait.

Email is trivia, fantasy football at gmail.com too. Make it an amount so we can do it at date, whatever. It just has to be anything we can do in an order when we get it wrong. Inevitably, but we're going to go through all the picks, but just something basically to keep in mind. We're doing this for week 14. You know, if you haven't clinched your playoffs or whatever, obviously week 14, you might, you know, win or go home. If you have clinched the first round by, start looking at week 16 and week 17. Like, start looking at defenses or kickers or like, even if you could have a good,

kicker. If they're playing in Chicago in week 16 outside, maybe go get someone in a dome. Stuff like that. Like just peruse your lineup in week 16, week 17, defenses kickers, any players, you know, whatever. And if you have clinched the playoffs but can't get a buy,

start looking at week 15. That's basically the three scenarios. So, you know, start looking at that, but we're going to talk about week 14 right now and then also we'll have like a couple guys, you know, like looking toward week 15. So we'll do that. With all that said, D.K., who's your, I mean, we don't even have to pretend. Running back, the number one running back ad this week is Jordan Mason for the 49ers by a lot, right?

Okay, quick interjection here. This is high fits, and the show just ended, and as the 49ers have done to us all season, we got an injury update as soon as we stopped recording. Not only is Christian McCaffrey an injured reserve, so is Jordan Mason the backup to Christian McCaffrey, also on I are with a high ankle sprain. So we went through this whole episode instead of we would add Jordan Mason. Turns out, actually, the guy you really want is Isaac Grendo, who if you watch the Bill's Niners game, he was the one who scampering in for a touch,

touchdown toward the end of the game. He's good. I think the Niners trust him a lot more now than they did earlier in the season. It was kind of just like Patrick Taylor, who I assume the Niners will call up from the practice squad and be the number two. But I think Garendo is probably going to be the guy, not as much of the guy as Jordan Mason was. But I do think Isaac Garendo is going to get 60%, maybe 80% of the snaps here and Patrick Taylor will fill in. But yeah, I go get Isaac Arendo and I would spend all of your free agent auction budget on Isaac Grendo. Obviously, he's more of a risk than Jordan Mason, but I mean, Jordan Mason in his first game, Philly from Caffrey, got almost 30 touches in that game. I don't think Grendo will get that much, and there's not that much trust there as there is to Jordan Mason.

But Isaac Grendo is the guy, and I don't know what is afflicting the San Francisco 49ers, but they're cursed. But I would still go to Isaac Grendo. And we're going to do the rest of this conversation. If there's any mentions that Jordan Mason, it's because we recorded it before he went on IR. 49ers, weird team. All right, let's go back to the show. Chris McCaffrey pulled up lame. Sounds like it's a PCL injury, possibly more like.

Craig is a conspiracy theorist that he thinks he popped his Achilles, even though he ran off the field. I don't know. But either way, it's sounding like it's probably going to be a season-ending injury for Christian McCaffrey. At this point, why bring him back, honestly?

You know, like just preserve him for next year. He's done. Yeah. So Jordan Mason runs hard. This is typically a pretty good run team. When he was healthy, Jordan Mason,

he had a couple of shoulder injuries earlier in the year, but when he was healthy, he was like a really valuable running back. So go get him, spend the rest of your fab. I feel like you can go. 100%. Every dollar you have a free agent auction budget.

And then, yeah, if you could still trade, trade for more to go get them. Even though McCaffrey came back, when did he come back? Week 11? McCaffrey? 10? Yeah, we hardly knew him. We hardly knew him. Even with McCaffrey coming back, I still think Jordan Mason has been the best running back

waiver wire out of the year, right? Like just for what he gave you. Him or Cream Hunt, I would say. Just for what Jordan Mason gave you in the first month of the season. Like you probably won two or three months. more games than you would have just because you had Jordan Mason in September. Yeah. I think also just on the Jordan Mason thing, also if while you're making that claim,

probably just add Isaac Garando just in case, like after. Obviously, Jordan Mason top priority. If you don't get him, Garando. But yeah, he's been banged up, Jordan Mason. George Mason, he's had shoulder issues and those don't tend to go away like really quickly. And so if he gets, you know, and he runs so hard. He's kind of like, you know, the James Connor type of runner. He's just like looking for contact.

So Garendo is a nice just backup option to have on your bench if Mason goes down. Yeah, there's a lot of overlapping very zero regard for self-preservation between Jordan Mason and Kyle Shanahan who Jordan Mason's first start that Monday football game in week one.

I think Kyle Shannon gave him the most start that carries he's ever had in any game in his career like more than college. He was like I'm tired. Yeah. So yeah, I think Isaac Grendo. That's a perfect person. Garando is the new Jordan Mason

if you have a buy. You know, you're trying to have an upside stash, that's like a garendo now. So yeah, we all agree in Jordan Mason. We can do a little Jordan Mason. What is it now, Craig? It is the Jordan Mason showdown time. I was early. I was trying to do the gong bang on video. If you want to, if you're trying to catch this on video, head on over to the Ringar NFL YouTube channel. Watch us. You can watch this. Magic. Watch this. Watch this. On screen. Although I'm in it. I'm not in my own home. So my background is pretty. You got a hammock?

I got a hammock and a white wall. I feel like I'm 23. Yeah, get like a fold-out chair back there. You're solid. Ikea lamp. Yeah. Got a stew going. Like a Bob Marley poster.

Endless summer. Boondock Saints. The poster with no frame. Pulp fiction. Dude, if you're in college and your poster is framed, do you have a problem? Dude, frames. Yeah, no. Anybody who has frames in college.

If you're spending money on a frame? Are you kidding? And taking the time to put it in the frame and hang up in the frame? Who's got frame money? This email's from Connor. Khan. Khan. We were talking on Sunday about Gus Johnson's legendary call from the Ohio State Michigan game this weekend.

Do we still have that? We play that already. It's not technically possible. Look, Ging! It's intercepted! It's intercepted! At the cold out, Jack Soye. Jack Sawyer.

I love when he goes, wow! There's like so much air in that. breathy. And the Sawyer is an overcorrection from the interstate. He's like, Sawyer, like his voice comes back in. Jack Sawyer. I'm going to get up really quick. We're going to keep the pod going.

My dog just walked in. I got to close a dog. Oh, what's your dog's name? His name's Bo. Not my dog, my in-law's dog. Yeah, yeah. What do you call your in-laws dog, like your dog-in-law? Your dog-in-law.

Does that count? I feel like that counts. Your dog-in-law. Dog-in-law. Anyway, all this Gus Johnson stuff. started with Craig's impression of C.J. Stroud. Okay. So Conner's question is C.J. Stroud have started 25 games at Ohio State. How many of those games has Gus Johnson commentated? Like how many times? How many did you, sir? It'd be funny if it was like none.

Oh, I know for sure. It's not. And the strah thing is like straw. He's all made up. This is a figment of our imagination. What is that, what's that called when you make up the, the memory? The Mandela effect. Yeah, yeah. That's for people's deaths, though. Right. But same thing. I'm ready. Three, two, one. Twenty-five.

You said twenty-five of twenty-five? How was that even possible? You think he's announced like Ohio State versus the Citadel? It's what it felt like. I'll be honest. Studd's tape. Well, I said twelve, and I don't know how this is possible, but I won. And the answer is eight. Damn it.

Oh, well. Did not expect to win that one. Shit. So I get Jordan Mason. Jordan Mason at stake. Yeah, so I get Jordan Mason. D.K., you're super last. So, Craig, you get to go next.

And you're the avatar for every league where nobody dropped Jordan Mason. So this is a good exercise. There we go. This is kind of hard. I'm kind of between like, so Breece Hall and the Jets is banged up and didn't play a lot. So I'm thinking Braylon Allen would be a nice ad here. Yeah, I kind of like that one. They have a great schedule for running back.

So I'm leaning Braylin Allen. The other guys I'm considering Blake Corum on the, on the Rams is starting to play more. He played a fourth of the snaps last week. That's increasing. Kyrie Williams is like fumbling the ball a lot. Did you go quorum over like a Tank Bigsby on Jacksonville? Yeah, Bigsby's playing the Titans.

The break, but don't bend defense of the Tennessee Titans. Right. I mean, the Titans still are, I mean, they've been letting up points, but they really don't let up a lot of yards. And I don't know. I'm like, I'm like, the Jags. I guess it's like if you needed one week, maybe I guess Tank Bigsby. But for me, if you're going for upside,

I would probably go after somebody like Braylin Allen. So I think I'm going to stick with Braille and Allen. I think that's smart. In the realm of like really high upside potential league winning type players, I still think like Coram, Braylon Allen, Trey Benson are the guys. Kamani Vidal on the Chargers, I guess. Khamni Vidal, if Gus Bus ends up getting benched or. But if you need someone for this week, because again, there's six teams on buy,

Ravens, Broncos, Colts, Texans, Patriots, Washington. So that's like Brian Robinson, Derek Henry, Jonathan Taylor, it's Joe Mixing. If you do need someone for this week, that's it like, I think quorum is pretty dangerous for like this. If you need to play someone this week, I'm going with sincere McCormick. Really? Top 10 name all time. Sincere McCormick.

Sincere is an unbelievable name. The contrast between sincere and McCormick is... Think about how he can sign off every email. He can say sincerely sincere. That's amazing. Sincerely. But yeah, basically, quietly, he sort of took over the Raiders backfield last week and ran hard, looked good, had some explosive plays.

the coach Antonio Pierce came out afterwards and said he's earned some more snaps. He's going to get more run for us. I feel like the coaching staff for the Raiders has not been happy with any of the running backs for the Raiders this week or the season, I should say, and none of them have really established and taking control of the backfield. So maybe McCormick has that opportunity here. This is a beggars can't be choosers type of scenario. I'm not, I think it's really risky if you're going to start him.

But if you've got six, you know, six teams are on by this week. And I think McCormick is going to get some play. playing the Buccaneers. So I think he'll get a solid amount of volume. What he does with it is anybody's guess. But I don't know. He looked pretty good to me last week. I actually mentioned this, I think, to Austin a couple weeks ago.

McCormick got a couple carries, I think two weeks ago. And I was like, hmm, McCormick kind of flashing. And then this week he, I think, took over the backfield for the Raiders. Beggars can't be choosers is a perfect way to put it. I think realistically, this is another week where it's like if you're really that desperate to, but you have like, if you have two running backs, you need to flex. you probably want to go to receiver. But yeah, if you really genuinely need to plug a running back from waivers into one of your running back spots,

here you are. It was week 14 playing sincere McCormick. Seer McCormick. My God. D.K., you and I have an uphill battle here to beat High Fitz. I feel like him getting Jordan Mason makes him very difficult for us. Yeah, he might just win that alone. Okay.

Receivers. I'm taking Nick West Per Kikine. I'm doing it. I agree. I said, fuck it. I put him at number of. Westbrookkeet. You know what?

I'm ending the ride. I know that once we pick Nick Westbrookini, he'll stop scoring. We had requests from Titans fans to not pick him again. To not take him. I could not be more confident that he will not score a touchdown this week. I agree. And for those who listening and don't know what we're talking about, we have refute, Nick Westbrookickeena now has seven touchdowns in his last eight games.

Eight, he has eight. Eight is last eight. Eight is last eight games yesterday. He's getting better. Eight in his last eight games. Which has never been done in an eight-game span for someone that only has 20 catches. He's forced in the NFL and touchdowns. What's funny is like...

He's 20 catches on the year, the entire season. Jamar Chase has 84 catches. Nick Westbrookine has eight touchdowns in the last eight games, and yet he's still only the wide receiver 22 over that span. That's all he's doing is catching like one touchdown. That's it. He catches every two and a half catches. He gets a touchdown.

touchdown for every eight games. So anyway, we've been betting against every single week. We've been like, that touchdown didn't mean anything. Don't pick them up. And it's been too fun. This started like before Halloween. It's almost Christmas. So you know what?

We are buying high. This is the absolute worst way to do this. I buy Bitcoin at $100,000. I saw Enron is back now. And I'm like, you know what? Now's the time to get it in crypto. I'm the one who's like been railing against superstition this whole time. I don't believe in superstition.

However, I'm going to hold it down for Titans fans. I'm going to say, fuck that. don't stop don't grab nick westberg kikine uh don't do it he's not even on my list I refuse we can't actually do this imagine flag him in a week 14 with your playoffs on the line and he gets one catch for five yards it doesn't score

him going eight straight weeks with a touchdown and then in week 14 killing your team is wait Craig wait we can't pick him can we no I'm taking I don't want him no I can't do this I'm you guys taking him I'm taking one for the team here and keeping like whatever I don't know what the expression is like keeping the superstition alive here and not picking him. You guys can pick him.

That's not how it works because that's still Lenick Westbrookinia showdown time. Doesn't matter if you don't do it. I'm backing out because like I'm saying it sounds so stupid. It sounds like insane to be like I want this guy. It's literally like you've seen red on like a roulette table. But it's like it's like a number. It's like just, oh, it's been 30 seven times in a row. So I'm just going to put my like all my money on 30. That's crazy. You would have said that though after after the fourth 30, you would have been like, That's crazy, betting 30 again. And then it happened three more times and you just won a house.

God damn it. Craig, would you bet your house that Nick Westbrookini would score a touchdown this week? But serious question. I'll give you a free house. Yeah. Free house for you, Jim. Would you actually, if you, like, I'm sure, like, do you actually, would you actually play Nick Westbrookickekekekeen if your fantasy season was on the line?

I don't think I could do it. I would neither. I mean, there's other guys on this list like Xavier Legatter, Romeo Dobbs. Like I would be probably starting those guys over in Nick X-Wex for Kine. I think, yeah, maybe I feel like maybe I should take Valdez Scantling from the same. I think you guys are crazy.

That's the same thing. I know. It's a fucking same thing. He's got like four touchdowns on four catches. I would rather, I would rather play Aquene than that NBS. What about?

There also is Elijah Moore for the Browns where we're recording this Monday before Monday at football. So maybe that sounds really stupid. Maybe he got hurt. Maybe it sounds really obvious because, No, I think Elijah Moore is going to have a big game tonight. I'm willing to see that. I think Elijah Moore, because the Browns next week, they're playing the Steelers. Like, that's kind of tough. I don't love James Winston versus the Browns.

But. Sorry, yeah, James Winston versus the Steelers. But I like Cedric Tillman. I'm surprised you guys have no interest. He's just got a concussion. We don't know when he'll be back. Yeah, he, he's not playing tomorrow or tonight. But hopefully he'll be back next week. Previous four games before he got hurt, eight targets, 11 targets, nine targets, 12 targets.

So wait, do we have a. consensus here. Hi Fitts. We don't. Who are you taking out of anybody? Who do you want? I was like, I literally wrote down Nick Westwood's, like the draft day of the movie, Nick Westbrookickeena, no matter what in my notes yesterday. And now we're here and I'm like, I can't talk to this. This isn't who I am. 20 catches. He has eight touchdowns. You're going to, uh, no, this is insane. You can't do it. You can't do it. No. I'm going to, oh my God. I can't believe I backed out of this. I'm such a coward. I'm taking Romeo Dobbs.

Playing the Lions. He plays the most of any one receiver on the Packers when he's healthy. My only issue is he missed, it's Monday. We're kind of in a domain's lane to pick because he missed Sunday's game. And they're playing on Thursday. That's my only concern. It's tough. You have to monitor whether he'll actually play in that game.

Sorry, I'm still yelling at my dog. I feel you profoundly on this one. You know what's hard is that this dog, who I love dearly, he's so smart he can open doors in the office I'm in. What? There's no lock on the door. So even if I kick him out into the hallway, he just comes back in. How does he say, you know, said open the door? Yeah.

Do you have like the handles that you just push down or whatever? Yeah, it's just a push down. He just doesn't do that. Dude, yesterday I was outside. There's a basketball hoop in the driveway. And I was shooting hoops. And I can't let Boe outside when I shoot hoops because he goes after the ball. Every time I shoot it, he'll like try to tackle the ball.

So I lock him in the house for like 30 minutes when I go shoot hoops thinking it was fine. The cruellest thing you could do to a dog, Craig. Whatever. I literally just threw a ball for 30 minutes to tire him out, put him in house. I literally locked the door to the backyard. But there's a door coming out of the garage that's a normal door that I did not lock. But that door is a pull towards you door, not a push open door. And after 30 minutes, he got out.

He figured out how to open a door and pull it towards him and get out. He's an Aussie shepherd, right? Or something along those. Did you ask? Those dogs are so smart. Can you ask Bo whether he would trust Nick Westbrookokokokokokokokokokicat's hot streak with the touchdowns? We should have Bo make the choice. We can do that on Instagram.

We can do that on Instagram. We'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put, we'll put three names and I'll see which, which tennis ball. He goes after. There we go. Also, you don't tire, D.K. taught us this, Craig. You don't tire a dog out by physical activity. I know, is what they smell. Factories' senses. Just throw like a handful of kibble or something out into the yard, and he'll be sniffing around for that for the next hour and a half. Now when there's a ball around. Yeah. theoretically, I thought, you know, doors being closed was enough, but I was wrong. Dude, my dog, my dog, I don't even have, I can't have George in my office anymore when I'm recording pods. I used to be able to and he'd be like mostly fine, but now as soon as I start talking, he just comes over and stares at me. And he just like wants out of the room. He doesn't want to hear me talking anymore. I think he gets like scared because I'm yelling at you guys specifically hyphids.

So I'm taking Dobbs. Who do you guys want again? Sorry, Beau, distracted me. I want Tillman. Okay. I guess I'll do Lodge and Moore. Adam Thielin at 99ers at a touchdown. I can't be watching. the Panthers offense get rocked by the Eagles defense with my season on the line, so Phelan's out. MVS and Westbrookicini.

Actually? Fuck, I'm doing MBS. It's cool. You know what? Here's the real answer. It's really close. I don't know. It's Monday.

We'll figure it out. Like, it's really close and none of these are great options. But MVS against the Giants, I think the Giants defense is teetering toward quitting. I'm worried now because LaFleur said, we'll see referring to Dobbs playing on Thursday night. So now they get, I'm wary of. that. So I think

and then if I want to go for a Panthers wild receiver, Leggett and Thielen are good, but they're playing Philly. They're playing Philly.

You can't watch that game. You're going to feel so dumb being like, oh yeah, the price young resurgence as like Jamie Carter's.

I don't know if he's playing. Yeah. I think it's got to be Elijah Moore MVS or Michael Wilson. I think I'm going to go with a, who's the guy

they're playing the Steelers? I know. That's the thing. It's James Winston versus the Steelers and then it's like, D.K., how do you feel

about the Cardinals versus the Seahawks. I feel like Michael Wilson on Seattle. I think Garrett Wilson should have a touchdown. I'm not saying Michael Wilson's Garrett Wilson by any Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson is a solid choice. What am I doing?

I'm going with Nick Westbrook-Kine. What are they doing? I just talked to myself out of every other player. They're playing the Jaggs. He has eight touchdowns and eight games. I'm back on Nick Westbrookicahe. Dude, this is fantasy football. He has eight touchdowns and eight games.

That's bad, though, right? I would be seriously. That's a bad thing, though. You should take the guy who doesn't have eight. Dude, looking at his, like, when you just like open up his page on Yahoo, it's like 10, 13, 18, 11, 19, 8. And you're like, eh. Anybody but him. Is genuinely the first player I've ever seen when you click on his little page where you could confuse the touchdown column with the catch column.

Like you, Jen, one, one, one, one, two. Dude, the people agree. Nick Westbrookickekekeke is only rostered in 18% of leagues on Yahoo. I'm taking that guy. Fuck it. I will say, I will say in Westbrook Aquine's defense and in the defense of picking him for this week, analytically speaking, he's been over 20% target rate

in the last three games. Yeah, he had the season high in targets last week. We'll love us. You know what, fine, I'm taking it with Keynes. This is a fine choice. I'm purely, I am purely doing it because of the superstition. You don't want to curse him, right?

All right. I'm taking Akine. Me too. All right. Yes, we're back. We made it back. Yeah. Okay.

It is Nick, Westbrook, Akeene showdown time. This guy's going to break us. I can't believe how long that took to get back. It's pathetic. Okay. Man, they're in back again. All right.

So this question is from Jared. Jared. Like, Jared. So we talked yesterday how we think that Justin Tucker has lost all his mojo because he, you know, got too big for his britches and did a commercial as a kicker. And the commercials for the movie Craven the Hunter. Uh-oh. Craven the Hunter.

Yeah. Kai told us it was MCU. Well, Jared says technically, Craven the Hunter is the next movie in the Sony Spider-Man universe not related to the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Don't get it twisted. The movie should be just as bad

as Justin Tucker missing all these kicks. But I'll digress. Trivia. Craven the Hunter first appeared in the Amazing Spider-Man number 15. Okay. What year did the Amazing Spider-Man number 15 come out? what year was the first time we saw Craven the Hunter introduced to the world.

By the way, Kai, before we answer, Kai did say it's Sony Marvel, though, when he was telling us what's out. Yeah, because Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man,

but he's still a Marvel character. The Spider-Man rights. So, Kai is unimpeachable. Yeah, he knows his stuff. Craven the Hunter's playing at Coachella this year. Yeah.

Who's the opening for? Craven the Hunter and, yeah, and Ivan Covner. He's opening for Lavender Brown, I think. Yeah, Lavender Brown.

Skippy was so mad at me for not getting lavender brown. D.K., I got to tell you. What? You didn't get that? She dated Ron. Before or after he was splinched. We played Harry Potter character, Coachella Act. And one of my highlights of the show for me all year was D.K.

having seen the movies and doing worse than Craig Whistle. Yeah, I got no excuses here. I've seen the movies probably multiple times, if I'm being honest. The next time you guys are in L.A., we should do a, we should go live and just screen all of the Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings movies from the Spotify theater. Dude, that's been a thing. Wow.

Craig, like, I've seen this on Instagram or Twitter lately where it's Gen Z watching certain scenes from Lord of the Rings for the first time. It's like, you know, the scene where... No, he doesn't know. I don't. I won't spoil it for you, but like very powerful scenes and like all the Gen Z kids are like crying and stuff.

I just want to do that with you. Craig's get a Craig is like too cynical. He probably wouldn't like it. What? La la la la la la la la la la la la la la Oh. Anyway, what year to Craven the Hunter appeared in Spider-Man? Oh, right.

He's got here. What week is there? I have my answer. Yeah, I got something in mind. I am not a comic book person. Me neither. I have no idea. All right.

All right. Three, two, one. 1975. I said 65, crazy, 75, high, Fitzwoods. I was way off. I said 1935 because I mean, who knows? I'm not right. No, I do.

I'm wrong. The answer is 1964. Damn, DK. DK. Okay, nice. The less you know, the better you are at D.C. A hundred percent. I think that's like actually proven.

Dek was like, give us history ones. Give us war ones. And then you got all, like, you didn't get a single one right. I did fine. I did okay. I think we each got one right. Yeah. Yeah.

Well. Yeah. Look, some of these are hard questions. All right? One of the best questions all year was how big was. What are the best ones all year? How big was the bulge?

We're like, what is the bulge? How big was it? I don't know. It was several hundred square miles, I think. Yeah, it was big. So, wait. So, D.K., you took Tillman, right?

So you get him? Yeah. And then I'm second closest. So I get Akina, baby. I'll take Michael Wilson. a.k.a. Demir T. Higgins. I can't believe no one brought up Parker Washington last,

like this whole time. Trevor Lawrence is dead. No, but I guess that's insensitive. Mac Jones was feeding it. I guess that's insensitive. I know. I can't go down that way. Like, there's certain ones of like, I'd rather,

like, if I'm going to lose. Imagine gearing up for week 14, do or die to make the playoffs, and you're depending on Parker Washington and Mac Jones. Jags. Parker Washington had six catches last week, and you're like, well, the rest of his season, he had nine.

And I'm like, that's not how I want to lose. It's extremely fair. All right. It's like, remember that one week when Sean Tucker went crazy and then disappeared? Yeah, number one running back in the week. And then last week they were like, we want to get him more touches. He had one carry for a touchdown. And then this week didn't touch the ball.

So it is, you know what? Happens. Again, six teams run by this week. Tassum Hill is out for the season. Dallas God has injured. I know. R.P. Yeah.

It's crazy. I'm going to tell my grandchildren about Tassim Hill. He plays two. hard. It sucks that he's going down. He's going down in his prime, you know, 34 years old. He'll be back.

He'll be back. It's unkillable. He's going to play until he's like 40. What? Yeah. Anyway, R.I.P. So people probably do you need to tell you that. Five yard touchdown.

Craig, I was watching the clip of that the other day. Craig's like, this man scored a 75-yard rushing. He outran 11 members of the other team. imagine being a cornerback and watching you not able to catch Tason Hill who I mean at this point Tours ACL 12 years ago

um dare I say I like the tight end waivers this week I DK who does you go with well I think Hunter Henry we've said him like the last seven or eight weeks if you still haven't picked him up like we can't help you I think he's not available at this point probably but if he is very good

if he is available on your on your waiver wire I'd go get him definitely secondary to that I think Speaking of the Saints, like Juan Johnson with Taysom Hill out, the Saints are basically down to MVS, Cedric Wilson, some randos in the receiving core. I think Joanne Johnson is going to have a chance

to step up here and get a lot of targets. He's like much more risky than some of these other guys. Like Pat Friermouth, I feel like is a, like a low ceiling, high, medium floor type of guy.

And so I think it, to me, it's between Patty Fries and Juan Johnson for this week. Who else? I would have. I want to add in Grant Calcutera. Is that how we pronounce his last name?

Dallas Goddard looks like he's going to be out of his knee injury, might miss a few weeks. Every time he's out, Calcutera plays well, and they're playing the Panthers this week who have given up the most fantasy points to tight ends this year. Grant Calcutera is the first player in the history of the show to graduate from two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts and a lie to an actual honest-to-god waiver tight-end recommendation.

Yeah. That's a historic moment. I went with Will Disley for the Chargers, man. I know he didn't have a great week last week. At like, you know, at halftime, Ladd-McConk had zero-f. Okay, but like, overall, though, like, he's still playing a lot in the Chargers. Like, that's still who they want to be. That was just a really random week where, like, Ladd-McCong.

I mean, Ladd-McCurkey had 105 of the 115 yards. That just, you just don't see that a lot. I think just didn't Herbert have like eight past attempts or something in the second half? It was like they were super. Yeah, it just that was, I think that was the Chargers deciding they wanted out physical. cousins and the Falcons. I don't, the charges are playing the Chiefs this week. I am totally

fine with Will Disley. I know it's a little scary that he didn't have to catch last week, but... I think I would rather go with Noah Gray over Disley. Novo Gray's actually out there playing well. The Nick West for the Keynes in that game. Noah Gray, two touchdowns, then he had two touchdowns again, and then this week he didn't score, but he had six targets. That was my other guy,

was Noah Gray. I think, frankly, I think Noah Gray's is going to kind of like... I think Travis Kelsey might retire after this season, and I think Noah Gray is basically studied at the school of Kelsey for the last three seasons, and it's going to, like, cosplay as Kelsey. I think he's going to be really good. It's not going to be Kelsey, obviously, but I do think Noah Gray will be a fantasy relevant person for, like, maybe a few years. I could see that.

So I have no problem with Noah Gray. It's overdissly. All right, so it feels like we're all a little scattered. We'll do trivia, and then we can make our picks. but I have to, who do I give the, who do I name the showdown time after? Let's do Calcutara. No, I'll do Noah Gray.

It's not the great Calcutara showtow time. You convince Ben Noah Gray. We're doing the Nick Westbrookitkekeke and Noah Gray episode. Noah Gray's only 25. He seems 28 to me in my head. I can't believe he's that young. All right, it is the Noah Gray

showdown time. All right, this one's from Blake. Blake. A truly original question here. It blew my mind. The alphabet has not always had 26 letters. In what year? What was the last year that they added a new letter to the English alphabet?

So they added another squiggle to the U and made it a W? Basically, at what point there were 25 letters. When was the 26th letter of the alphabet added? Can we know what the letter was? To tell you the truth, the first time I did this, I misread the question. I thought I'd guess the letter. And it's whoever gets the closest.

Which we could do, we could do that if you want instead. Because like, that's what I did at first. I read the answer. I was like, oh, shit. I did this wrong. Well, yeah. What is it? Is it W?

That's, I said X. Oh, X is good. Q? What is it? I was going to guess V. We all did. The answer is J. Oh.

Oh, that's interesting. Okay. The answer. So in 15, 20. the letter, they added J, it wasn't until 1524 when John Giorgio Tricino, an Italian Renaissance Cramarian, known as the father of the letter J, made a distinction between the success. That's like my father invented the toaster's choodle. I was going to say, this reminds me of like the Austin Powers thing.

He would make fabulous claims like he invented the question mark. I had a normal upbringing as, I ended as a normal upbringing as anyone else. what was it retro vacations in rangoon my scrotum vacations in rangoon oh god he invented the letter

jay wait so I didn't know you were going to give the year so we have to do another trivia question now well no you guys gave the letters what did you guys so we're going to guess who's closest there's no guess who's closest someone got closest

I have to go through the whole alphabet to figure out who's closest though did I say Q or do I go? M-N-O-P, yeah, Q-R-S. If it's Q, I think it's- You said W. I said V, so I'm like not getting it right.

Q-R-S-T-U-V. Oh, no, D-K-1. W. I did end on Q. I think we should just do a new question. I didn't know we were actually guessing that. Let's do another question. That is fun, though.

I would not have guessed 15-24. I don't know what I would have guessed, but I don't think I would have guessed that. The father of the letter J. When was the alphabet created? The English alphabet. Should you just do that right now and look up the answer? What is,

what do you think the, what do you think the father of the letter J? Does he think it's Jiff or GIF? Whoa. Well, that's spelled the G. Obviously, he would be GIF.

That was the whole point. It was like the whole point at the J. Okay, that didn't land. Should we just look up when English alphabet was invented or should he pull up a new question? Let's do a new one. Let's do a fun one.

Let's get the listener involved. Oh, here we go. Oh, this is good. Do you want a question about bignets or the Iron Cross? Man. What a question. Let's do the Iron Cross. I may or may not have screwed up the different.

But I just try to give American soldiers the Iron Cross. It was one in the morning. I could fuse the Iron Cross. Oh, in Hyvitz's defense, I would not have known that either. So it's fun. Thank God I'm here. What is the, I'm kind of curious about the Benier fact. Oh, yeah, why we do the Benier one?

He's doing both. Fuck it. A little less Nazi. Week 14 waivers. No one's listening anyway. How much does an order of three-bit... So the most famous Benet plays in New Orleans is Caffy-Demond. How much does an order of three bignets cost to Caffey-Demond?

Dude, we're going to the Super Bowl this year. We've got to go. How much does it order? Oh, yeah. We're going to go to New Orleans. Dude, the line is so long, though. People who live in New Orleans, email is at rea-fancy football channel. Let's just go to a different underground bignet spot. That's what I'm saying.

It's five-doll. Blast for me. No, it's fried dough. I'm going to wait an hour and a half in line for fried dough. I'm like, I'm going to get fried dough like two blocks away. Email me at Ring or Fancy Football You know the comments I'm wrong. Cafe Dumont people are just furious right now with you.

Is that really that much better? Is it, is it that good or is it just famous like Hollywood Boulevard and you actually go and it sucks? We're like the Philly cheese steaks. Like I went to, I've been to Philly. Probably my bladder. Dude, I waited 90 minutes in line for a flea cheesecake at Pats. It's the experience, you asses.

Does the experience of waiting in line? Yeah. Besides, it goes fast. It goes fast. You don't have to wait for. The only time I've waited in line for like the famous cuisine in a city and it was worth it is in Austin. I waited at one of like the big barbecue spots for like an hour and a half.

It was fucking great. Shout out to Terry Blacks in Austin, Texas, who has figured it out because it's just as good as like Franklin's. But Franklin's, you got to wait four hours and line on the sidewalk. And Terry Blacks, you threw that bitch in 30 minutes. They'll sell you a beer in line. I waited at, I think the place is called La Barbecue. and it was awesome.

We waited for like 90 minutes. They gave us like little bits of brisket and a drink and lines. Great. La Barbecue's great as well. Yeah. The barbecue's worth it. Everything old. Benets, come on.

So what's the Benet question? How much does an order of three bignets cost? How much does three bignets cost to cafe demand? Interesting. Well, if it's like a, if it's a real commercial spot and it's like a real tourist attraction, they're going to jack up those prices. So I was thinking too. It's a banana, Michael.

What could it cost? All right. $10? You guys ready? $3, $1. $24. I said $16.95. $1.50?

$1.50? For all three? I think it's cheap. $1.50? Oh, I said $24. I was thinking $7 a pot plus tax. D.K., sorry, what was your answer? A dollar 50.

For three? Yeah. I like it. He's zagging. Have you had it yet? Yes, I've been to Cafe Dumont. Well, I think my, my recollection is it's cheap, but I could be completely wrong. 385.

Wow! Fuck yeah. You fucking doubters. Craig and I live in L.A., don't we? Yeah. Bignet's a dollar? They're the, they're like, their business plan is just like fucking getting people through there. That's why it doesn't take that long to wait in line either for it.

It took forever. People get in, get out. Yeah, but time passes differently when you're hungover. Okay. Anyways, I won Fuck, now I feel like an asshole So I'm gonna stick with the New Orleans theme here

Joanne Johnson Also, I want to do the other I want to do the Iron Cross quiz I'm curious now Oh we do There's something funny about waiting an hour in line To pay $4. How many things can you do that for in life?

Yeah I'm trying to think of anything I don't know I guess that yeah I don't know So let's finish out this tight end round and then we can do the Iron Cross question.

Craig and I really did Blue Silk Blue. You guys did. I guess $24 for three minutes. I don't know. I've never been. I saw people waiting 90 minutes in line. It's fried dough.

Dude, if you go to like a fancy donut shop, they're expensive. Do you get a county fair? Funnel cakes, cash money, man. They charge for this shit. I think their whole deal,

their whole shtick is like, cup of coffee now is eight bucks. We haven't jacked up the prices in 50 years and they're never going to. It's like probably 50 cents for a coffee. You know, they have the same menus since like 1974. If you said,

You know the founder? It's like if you change the price of the Costco hot dog, I'll fucking kill you. Right, exactly. All right. Hyphen, you're technically second. Who do you want? Noah Gray.

You convince me actually off Will Dissly. All right. I want Friermouth. Moot. Yeah. No Calcutera after all that? No, I don't know. I want the vibes in Pittsburgh.

Vives are high. Pickens could get suspended at any moment. So I want Friarmooth. We're just on. We're waiting on baited bread. for Pickens to get suspended. Pickens could do anything at any moment. And speaking to which, if you need to stream a quarterback,

which a lot of people might because Jane Daniels on by, Bo Nix is on by, Anthony Richardson's on by, Stroud, thankfully, he's on by finally. I would say Russell Wilson, Craig just said for the Steelers. I mean, even in the snow game, he had some fantasy points. Last time they played the Browns,

again, second was passing yards of his career. You know, hard to do better than that with Russ. And again, as Will Levis is there too, or James Winston as well. We'll see how James played someone tonight. but hard, I think, to put your season on the line with Willevis over Russell Wilson right now. Yeah.

Although, Levis, sneaky. You could go Levis. I would go in that order. Russ. Will Levis, James Winston, with the opportunity to move James up or down, depending on our plays tonight versus the Broncos, who are much better defense. Well, no, sorry, not how much better to play the Steelers. That's why I don't like James next week.

He's like, you know, Bronco Steelers and stuff. But especially Steelers are going to, I mean, they're not going to lose twice to the Browns, I would imagine. And on that note, defense, a lot of, a couple of serious defenses. The Bucks defense is playing the Raiders. I think that's, I mean, I just think that's solid. Like, it's just, that's perfectly solid.

Saints versus the Giants. I think that could be a, you know, I don't think the Saints defense is awesome right now, but the Giants defense is pretty bad. Drew Locke, Tommy DeVito. I'm wearing a Tommy DeVito shirt right now. It's not good. So I think that that's pretty good. You guys saw the pathetic Drew Locke's Strip sack or just fumble on, I mean,

I think the Saints first the Giants, that could be one of the stupid things that wins you a matchup is the Saints play the Giants this week. Yeah. Too hard on Drew Locke.

Kai, you want to get in here and pick one of these teams? Kai, just skip to picking my team. I have Jordan Mason. What? No, this is a tough one. No, I'm picking High Fitz's this team. Yeah.

Who won last week? High Fitz is in the lead currently. So, D.K. is in third with one player to play, Devon Valle. He needs 10.8 points to catch High Fitz. He had Tank Bigger, Devon Bailey,

Cole Comet. And you had, Craig, you had Amir Abdullah, Dantavian Wix, and Will Disleaf, for 11.3 points, and then High Fitz finish with Gus Edwards, Xavier, Leggett, Noah Gray for 18.9 points. So, two in a row

for me. What's the trivia situation? Thank you, sir. Trivia's crazy. D.K. took the lead with that Ben Yeh question with 15. Craig, you have 14. High Fitz, you have 10.

Craig and I really lose seal. blue that. That was pretty amazing. I didn't even consider it. I just saw the line for like when I was in New Orleans. I saw the line and I'm like, I'm not waiting on that line. I waited. I've never been in New Orleans. It's the most and least American place I've in America.

The most what? The most and least American place in America is New Orleans. It looks like France. Yeah. If you walk it around, it's like in my mind what I thought like Havana would look like is what Dude, do people call New Orleans Crescent City? That's its nickname. I don't know if people call it that a lot.

Yeah, it's like San Fran. People from San Francisco hate when you call it, but people who are not from there call it, I don't know what the deal is with New Orleans. Because I saw the Pelicans jersey said Crescent City. And I was like, is that? I didn't realize that was so popular. I suppose I shouldn't tell you what New Orleans people do

because I don't know. But I don't think so. I don't think it's like common, but I could be wrong. City Connect is funny because when they hit, they hit, they're so good. But then when they're bad, they're kind of bad. when they hit they're awesome

should we do iron cross trivia we have emails you guys want to I want it to the iron cross oh my god okay why it's iron cross just give us the fucking iron cross Jesus we'll do the iron cross truce Kai get in this why are you like iron cross so much

DK I'm here yeah it's up TK it's like the succession joke you read mine confh twice so what did you not get on the first do you miss something the first read this is from Micah Micah

Mikea What year What year was the first Iron Cross awarded That's obvious I gave my answer Remind me what this is High Fitz Heifitz said that

Whizor White The famous World War II veteran slash football player slash Supreme Court Justice American icon Was in World War II And won the Iron Cross I meant like the bra star

Which is a German War medal? I think it's like the Medal of Honor kind of Yes, the Medal of Honor for Germany But for Germans And specifically, I think It's associated a lot with Nazis

But It's not specifically for Nazi It's literally the logo for the Nazis In the Call of Duty games Like that's an Iron Cross Oh It's older than the Nazis But the other logo

Not to get Craig a huge clue But yeah All right All the jury. Yeah. Also, yeah. Keep rolling. Okay.

I got an idea. Got a thought. Three, two, one. 18, 720. Oh. Kai, would you say? 1943.

Okay. I said 1,700. Okay. That makes you feel better. I said 1820. I said 1860. I was thinking Otto von Bismarck up in this pitch. And the answer is 1813.

Unbelievable. 13. That's so big. Damn. Also, if any German listeners are listening to this and absolutely horrified by any aspect of this conversation, please email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. We're very open to cultural correction. I can't even tell you how many people from the United Kingdom were very happy to correct us when we did not know about the UK and England versus Britain versus Britain versus Britain. So we're happy to be corrected on anything. I knew that for the record. I didn't know that. I couldn't tell you off the dome like like two years ago what Britain versus the United Kingdom like England versus Britain versus United Kingdom. England versus United kingdom. We put a gun to my head. I'm going to get that wrong. Can I also get Grant Calcutara now that I won that or no? Can I have two tight-in? Sure. Sure. That changes the equation on who I'm picking. No, no, no, no, no. I don't get it. Okay.

All right. This email is from Redacted. Redacted. Redacted. Back when the 49ers still played a candlestick, I worked as part of the catering staff that would be the waiters or bartenders for the luxury suites. Part of our responsibilities were servicing both the 49ers owner's box and the visiting owner's box. For the most part, this was remarkably boring and all the people in the owner's box were on their best behavior. However,

not the case for a game near the end of the 2010 season. That was Mike Singletary's second year as head coach of the Niners season had not gone great. And throughout much of this game, 49ers owner Jed York was making snide comments about nearly every

coaching decision Mike Singletary was making, culminating in a pretty bad coaching challenge that clearly the 49ers were not going to win. And at this point, Jed York gets up from his seat, says, that's it, he's done, and leaves the box and spends the rest of the game on a couch in the lobby area entry to the owner's box.

Wow. And then Mike Singletary was fired after the game. I don't know when Mike Singletary was told, but whether he knew it or not, the decision was made in the middle of the game. Wow. Well, I'm assuming a lot of decisions are made in the middle of the game. game, right?

Yeah. But we have we have somewhat proof on this one. Yeah. The other one I found, yeah, the other one I found was that I didn't realize this, but two years ago, Navy lost in like double or triple overtime to Army. And the winningest coach in the history of Navy was fired at his locker in the locker in the locker room after the loss by the athletic director. They worked together forever.

Oh my gosh. Is he still in the Navy? I don't think you're not in the Navy. Like, because it's the coach. Is the coach of Navy in the Navy? I mean, I guess I assumed you're right. I assumed he served. Once you serve in the Navy, you're still in the Navy.

Is the coach of Navy in the Navy? I guess, yeah, was Coach K in the Army? This show was really like, today's episode was like 70% trivia. Oh, yeah, should we do a poll of like, did you like today's episode? No, no, it should not. I would like to live blissfully in ignorance. Do you want more email? D.K.K. is doing that. Craig, you want to hear an email?

Yeah. All right. On the note of, this is from Jewel. Jewel. Because Cloy's Box and all the freaking people keep coming up with the old people. And as DK always says, like there weren't enough people back then. Yeah, that's Craig. That's a Craigism. Yeah, there weren't enough people back then.

So you did everything. Everybody had nine jobs. Jule. Because every old football character, some movie character, who just like, you know, played in the NFL and won a heisman and then went to the war and became a billionaire. It really was like the OG Avengers.

It was. So George Hallis, aka Hallis Hall of the Bears, the legendary founder of the Chicago Bears, do you know what he was doing before he returned Illinois to start the Bears and basically start the NFL? He was playing right field for the New York Yankees and he was replaced by Babe Ruth.

Of course. Now, I looked it up. Not exactly. replaced by Babe Ruth, but the story's much better that way. But still, insane. Did he retire? Or was he still playing baseball when he started the Bears?

He just starts the NFL as the right fielder for the Yankees? No, I think he got, I think he left. Is this why so many football teams in the early days played baseball teams? Yeah. The other one, maybe a very confusing time for a while there.

Maybe a bunch of Vikings fans know this? I did not know this. You know, Bud Grant, the white-haired longtime head coach of the Vikings, took him to four Super Bowls. Before Bud Grant was the coach of the Vikings, he played like a hundred games for the Lakers and won an NBA championship. Really?

Oh, no shit. I did not know that. Wow. And then he switched sports. And then he just became a head coach in football. God, that's crazy. Did he play for Wooden?

Wait, where did he play? No, the Lakers. Oh, sorry. I was thinking of UCLA? Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. My bad. I think that was like George McCann era. He played.

for the Minneapolis Lakers, by the way. Frog City. They actually have lakes over there. Also, John Wooden was more like 70s, 60-70s. Yeah. Wow. People doing stuff. People really just put their head down and did everything, you know?

They were just like, I'm going to do this next. I'm going to do that. They didn't have fucking TikTok to scroll through it. Yeah. And this one's the most important email of all. This from Tim. Timmy. Timmy.

We were talking about Red Rocks. Yeah. And we were talking about we would. love to be the first show to do a podcast from Red Rocks. Tim writes that Red Rocks is open to the public during non-show and daylight hours. You can podcast there anytime. And if you're interested in a tour, I've got a connection. It works for the venue.

I live in Denver. Let me know. Open to the public. What is like, you can just go tour like a park? You can't use like the equipment, can you? Well, I mean, I assume. You could go on stage and record.

You can just stand on stage and set up your own life. And bring a bullhorn. But the park. So you can just walk around. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably what you know. We can just do a podcast as close as they'll allow us to red rocks.

Yeah, from the parking lot. Right outside the border. We're just like, oh, yeah, Ring your Fantasy football shows do it red rocks. And we're just like in the parking. Asterisk. Fine print. Yeah. Technically not red rock.

All right, Tim. We'll get in touch. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai for producing this episode. Thank you for the, thank you to the guy who founded the letter J. dude oh yeah what was his name again the father of the letter J

the father of the letter J. John Giorgio Tracino thank you John Giorgio what a guy thank you Lord Lord thank you buck oh nine this is gonna this is gonna be a one that you guys don't know but Bucco 9 willing to guess

like a crossback of the draft punk scoban from back of the day Swimming in Sand is the only song I know of there's Wow that when you just said punk scoband and then said their song's name was swimming in sand. I was like that completely checks out. Punk

ska band. Go look it up. It's a good song actually. I love DK's like punk ska, 90s background. There is no genre of music. It's a skateboard. It's been explained to me more that I still don't understand than ska. What do you not understand about ska?

What is ska? It's the genre of music that has a distinctive sound. Well, do you know what? Do you know what? like, it's, I think it's actually, it's derived from like reggae. I feel like it's like,

if I had to describe it, I would say beach punk. Yeah, it, uh, beach punk. When I think of Ska, I think of like the really quick

upward strokes of the guitar where it like, yeah, comes out sounding like, that, that, that, that, like,

very fast-paced. Yeah. Um, so instead of playing the guitar with down strokes or whatever, down, I don't know what to call it. You play,

you play up and the lower strings on the, like the three lower strings. and it comes out sounding like quicker paste and higher pitched. I also don't know what I'm talking about. So me saying beach punk sounds right in my head, but I'm sure a real ska fan would say that's wrong. Email us at Ring your Fantasy Football if you're Scott Matt. Also, the last time we did Jimmy Meets World or whatever it is.

Jimmy Eat World. Jimmy Eat World. And shout out to Mel, who emailed in that Rob Horvilla has the 60 songs to explain the 90s about it and basically says that Jimmy Each World is important because they're the opposite end of the spectrum than emo music. It's like they're the my chemical romance is over there and then Jimmy World is like the flip side. Which, yeah, they're them in Death Cab. No, yeah, I never got into Death Cab.

Oh, I did. I bet you did. You scoundrel. The guy who started Death Cab, I want to say, went to Western in Bellingham where I live. So there's like local connections here. Have you seen them live? No. He also did the Postal Service.

Do you remember them? And then he was married to, what's her name? The Jess from New Girl, what's her name? Zoe DeCineau. Zoe DeCineau. Yeah. Wow.

I would have led with that. Well, I don't think they're married anymore. No, she's married to a property brother. Oh, yeah. What's with those guys? A property brother. One of the property brothers. I love that.

No one knows what you. She's married to a property brother. A property did one. Couldn't fucking tell you Jonathan Scott and Zoe Dishan... Wait, she spells her name with two O's? Zooey. Zooey?

Has that always been it? I thought that's how he spelled Zoe. No, you spelled Zoe, the Z OE. Yeah, Z or Z O, I guess. I don't know shit, two O's. But I feel like there's a whole world of like HGTV stars who are fucking crazy rich and have like empires in nine shows

on the HGTV channel and nobody knows about them. Yeah. And they're somewhere having a conversation and they're like, you know, there's probably like people who do like fantasy football like all the time. We don't even know who they are. HGTV is basically fantasy football for people who are like 60. Right. Like my parents know everything about HGTV.

They watch every single show. Like Joanna Gaines is like the Christian McCaffrey of HGTV. I think she owns a city in Texas pretty much. conscious yeah chip and joanna yeah jonathan scott is the name of the property brother craig should we try to figure out to play fantasy hg tv should we like figure that out yeah when i when i was when i was starting out of my career i was at sp nation i was blogging about the seahawks i used to always think about like what's the weirdest thing i could

start a blog about for sp nation like and i think i've mentioned this on the show before i wanted to start a blog about um cirque de sole i was like cirque de salee is the most impressive thing I've ever seen in my life. Like, I would blog about this. It's the coolest fucking shit. You go every week. I'd be like breaking down the crazy shit they did. Still amazing.

Ranking the most astounding flips that we saw in the Circta Solae show or wherever. Another great show at Cirque de Sala. First off, no one died. Second off. You know, whatever. They're the most impressive athletes I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen it. In real life.

It's insane the shit they do. Email us at Ring and Fantasy Football. mill.com about Cirque to Saleh. I don't know anything about it. Anyway, so maybe we should start an SB Nation blog about owning property and doing fixer uppers. Also, used to be really

into House Hunters International. Did you ever watch that show? I watched House Hunters a lot. Yeah. I went through a phase with House Hunters International. Yeah, there's like a whole 11 p.m. syndicated TV wormhole

where you just watch like chopped, diners, drive-ins, and dives, House hunters. You know, you just like wake up on the couch and on the screen is going, and we're rolling out to Minneapolis, where Joe Williams is making the best short rib west of the Mississippi. Like his 25 rings on his fingers just eating a burger. Fun fact, Guy Fieri's son just enrolled at San Diego State, baby, go Aztex.

Good to know. What's Guy Ferry's son named Brick? Hunter. Okay. Hunter Fieri. So, you know, it's Fieri. Fiati. Kind of a big get.

I wonder what NIL deal we gave him. Big get. Hunter Fietti's walking around, Sandy's state like, you have my great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather invented the litter J. The House Hunters International, by the way, complete bullshit, I feel like. Every couple on the show, it's like,

I'm a part-time blogger for whatever, like a wellness. website and I make sweaters on the side and our budget is 7 million. Okay. You find out her great, great, great grandfather invented the Jay. And you're like, okay, this is generational wealth. I also heard that

Househunters is fake. She's got Big J money. I heard that the couples already have chosen the house but when they're touring all the other ones. Oh, really? Yeah. Which makes more sense if you're going to make a show. Yeah. Yeah. It is fun to imagine which one you'd pick, though.

I'll give them that. They have a good, they have a good, like, just idea for that show. Kai just texted us. We should do a show about Craven the House Hunter, Fierry. Craven the House Hunter. Dude, that's one of the best Rick and Morty bits. Rick and Morty is this interdimensional cable where they flip channels, but it's every cable at every possible conceivable universe.

It's every station in the multiverse. And they're watching House Hunters, but it's just like, guys hunting houses. It's just wild houses of the ones that are killing them. The most dangerous game? Yeah. Yeah. Isn't there like there's the fake TV show in 30 Rock that's starring Will Ferrell and you only

see ads for it and it's called like bitch hunter or something? It's like him hunting women. So many good shows. Oh my God. Or is it is it bitch hunter or is it milf hunter? It's one of those two. Milf hunter. That might be something else, Craig.

Oh, actually, this is going to be... Which one would NBC allowed to be on air? I can't tell what's worse. Also, I have a correction. Guy Fieri has two sons. One is named Hunter. The second is named Ryder. Rider is going to San Diego State.

Rider and... You're getting Hunter and Ryder? Yeah, Ryder is going to San Diego State. We're here in Waco, Texas. And you won't believe what Mike Dufrein is doing with cream cheese. I love that. Craig thinks that like getting Guy Fieri's son is going to be like good for the for the school. Hang a banner. I don't know. No, it was funny because like he

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