The Ringer NFL Show - Best Fantasy Landing Spots for 2025 Rookies, Brandon Beane’s Rant, and RIP Nate Dogg

Episode Date: April 30, 2025

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show is SO back! And on today's episode, Heifetz, DK, and Craig talk about the best fantasy landing spots for this year's draft class. Plus, Brandon Beane's radio rant and the latest developments with Bill Belichick's girlfriend, emails, and the guys pour one out for Nate Dogg. CHAPTERS: We're SO back (00:00) The Shedeur Sanders prank call (02:26) Brandon Beane's rant (04:50) Ranking rookies dynasty-style (07:12) Bill Belichick's girlfriend (01:12:20) Emails (01:16:32) RIP Nate Dogg (01:26:41) Email us [e-mail]! The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Craig Horlbeck, and Danny Kelly Producers: Kai Grady and Troy Farkas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Rear Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyphids, and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coral. We changed the name back, didn't we, Craig? It was so over and now we're so back. Fantasy show is back, baby. From here until February, we're talking fantasy, NFL.

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So, like, please stick with us. have you been doing the draft with us and don't know what the hell we're talking about. Like, it's fun. Please stick around our unhinged episodes are even more fun during the season. At some point, we'll do something with hockey. I don't even know. But thank you for sticking with us. And then if you know the deal, you know the deal.

So we're going to go back to fantasy. We're going to talk about fantasy right now. We're going to go through just the best fantasy landing spots for all these players because, you know, we've talked through the first round, second round. But like, there's a lot of running backs, receivers, Titans, quarterbacks. The fun positions, we're going to go through a bunch of them right now. We're going to talk Dynasty. And if you don't play Dynasty, I know that sometimes when people

talk about Dynasty. It's kind of like D.K., how you feel when Craig and I talk about golf and you don't play golf. Which, by the way, Hyvitz, I just a killer day at the range. How'd you play? Yeah, you should. You hit him good? Now we're talking about the fucking range. First time I played in months, I hit him up. Not even actual, Craig. Not even actual golfing. Just I got a jumbo pack. I got a jumbo bucket. And I just worked my way. I started with my, you know, pitching wedge and worked my way up and then went to the driver. And I, that's actually kind of really how Dynasty is, because I think people who play golf are kind of like interested in what Craig's saying.

And D.K. I actually, there's no topic where we're together in person that DK more actively like tunes out and just start scrolling his phone than golf. So we're going to go. The sport. Just your game.

Oh, yeah, just, it's very similar to fantasy football, actually. So anyway, we're going to go through and we're going to talk

dynasty, but I promise we're going to actually make it, like we're just going to talk about how we like these players and these teams. Yeah. The fit, the potential volume, all that stuff.

It's good stuff. So, because it's fun. There's a lot of fun play. I think, a lot of, I mean, for all the talk of like, oh, is it a good draft or not? Like, there are a lot of fun players and very interesting players in this draft.

So a couple things of news that one hit first. First of all, we ended the last, what day is today? Today we recorded this Monday, April 28th. We ended yesterday's show talking about how the guy, we don't know if it was the Falcons Defense coordinator's son who prank Shidoor Sanders. Like, we can't say it for sure. Well, it was him. Fessed up.

Max O'Hill him. It was in fact. wait, Jack's Obrick, right? Oh, Jax or Max? Or Max? I don't know. Well, he spelled Shador Sanders' name and his apology wrong. So, like, you know, if we get his name wrong, I think it's fine.

He spelled Shador's name wrong. And then some people are saying it might be AI. They ran it through the AI fact check. I don't know. It's exactly. It's exactly. Like your boy Dart. Yeah.

It's going around. Jack's son of Obrick. But yeah, no, that's, um, look, it's not the end of the world. But, man, that's tough. He took it off. They say he took it off his dad's iPad at some point when he was home. And then it looks like he went back to college. And there's a video going around of them doing it from like a classic like college apartment.

And they're just like, he bought it. And I'm like, yeah, that's actually a problem. Yeah. It's just one of those things that's so profoundly not funny. I mean, I guess when I was like a 20, maybe I thought it was funny. I'm going to say, but idiotic. Most teen pranks feel awesome in the moment. And then 10 years later you look back and you're like, ah, that aged poorly.

They all feel good in the moment. And then I'm like, people, people, people's houses in high school. And you're like, ah, that feels like a little much. Right. You know, it's like, T-Pings one thing, but like, yeah. Our shenanigans are cheeky and fun. Yours are cruel and tragic. My only disappoint, my true disappointment among the many disappointments is I'm not,

nothing about this surprises me that 19-year-old men made a short-sighted decision. That doesn't really surprise me. I did think that any 19-year-old would have an understanding, the certainty that the technological aspect that they wouldn't trace this back to you, I find that astonishing. I think that Gen Z, I would think that would be more drilled down. They were video themselves. Yeah, why record it on video? I don't understand.

I guess for your own archives, but of course that leaked immediately. Like, why don't know that? Like the idea that you're not going to just keep, I guess I thought, I thought that 19-year-olds would have a sharper sense of like, yeah, nothing's getting erased ever. It is so funny. The call is going to be traced back. Yeah, they don't think very much. It is funny that like they could have probably gotten away with it had they just not

recorded it and they would have still felt the you know what the sick joy of doing it in the moment and they would have just kind of had that would have been something that the people in those room the people in that room would have had you know would have been just amongst themselves but of course no nowadays you got to fucking record everything and then it immediately leaks

yeah so uh I just wanted to mention that the only other thing I wanted to say here is did you guys see the bills journal manager Brandon Bean uh just totally like kind of yelling at the radio host today yeah no he's all mad because the fans are upset that they didn't draft a big time receiver in this class. He's like, I don't remember exactly what he said.

He's like, we scored 28 points straight. I wrote that exactly what he said. Six or seven straight games. What do you fucking want for me? I wrote down exactly what Brandon Bean said. So he got on the, I think he was listening to the radio show before he went on. And they were talking about the bills need a receiver. The bills need a receiver.

Why can't the bills get a receiver? All the other teams are getting receivers. And Brandon Bean comes on and says, this is 2018. I'm going to write down. I'm going to write down. I'm going to read it. You guys were bitch. He said bitching on the radio.

He said, you guys were bitching 2018 about. Josh Allen. You wanted Josh Rosen. Now you're bitching we need a receiver. I don't get it. We scored 30 points in a row in eight straight games. A year ago, I get asking why don't we have receivers. But now you just saw us lead the NFL in points. He's like, if you include the playoffs, we scored more points than the Eagles. We scored more points than any team in the NFL. If you include the playoffs, our job is to score points win games. The problem was the defense. So we got defenders complaining that we need a receiver is stupid. He's making. He's making some salient here. However, this is such a terrible strategy for how to deal with.

I never, really? You know, stupid. I love it. I'm gonna tell you. No, it's, I love it. He's gonna make it so much worse, dude. He's gonna make it so much worse by doing that. If he calmly would have explained that, different thing.

You're right that he let the, if he had just sat there and said, why do you guys think we need a receiver if we scored 30 points in eight straight games? He said the fans are bitching. Now it's us against them. He said it like three times. Part of me is like, I caught it with. General managers talk what they thought more. I get it though. It's like, dude, the bill set the franchise

record for points and touchdowns in a team history last year. And imagine having to listen to the like, we don't have a receiver. Josh Allen won the MVP. It's comforting to know that even at the top, people are still upset by negative comments on social media and on radio. Does Steph Curry check his mentions at halftime? Now, Warriors Jar, but. Uh, I, does he at halftime? I know he's very online and that

motivation. I've heard Steph Curry mentions at half time. What is he doing? honestly and that's kind of cool motivation I'm already back I'm back in on that now now that actually you're back yeah that feels like a smart move yeah yeah okay I had to get to that that was important to me

okay so let's go through we're going to just rank our super like our superflex dynasty rookies and I kind of want to tear him while we're here and again for those who don't know what dynasty is just in case so dynasty fantasy football is the same as fantasy football except you do one big

draft in the beginning and you keep the players forever. So like, we're in a league a few years ago and we just do a draft. And there's no contracts. It's not like keepers like, if you have a player, you get, you get the player forever. You can cut people. You can trade people. But you have them their whole career. And the only way you add players again, other than just waivers is every year with rookies enter the league, there's a rookie draft. So that's kind of the way dynasty goes. And trade. One big draft in the beginning. And then you draft the new rookies every single year. And that's what we're going to through here is like, you know, spoiler. Like Ashton Genties the number one guy. And

then, you know, there's usually like 30 to 40 to 50 players, whatever rookie is drafted, depending on how sick your league is. And, yeah, we're kind of going to go through it. It's a super fun way to play, by the way. It is. Give it a try. Do we really want a tour? I like it.

I like, give an impassioned defense, but I think it's really fun. I don't think it should be the only thing you do. I think it should be part of your fantasy football, like portfolio. I think you should be in like a couple of redraft leagues and then one dynasty, and it's really fun. On its own, I still think a redraft draft where you change players every year. It's a new league every year.

There's nothing more. fun than that draft, in my opinion. But Dynasty does add a different kind of element where you're like trading picks. You feel like a GM. If you hit on a guy, it feels that much better because you now have him for his career. So there's really cool elements of it, but I think the excitement of a redraft every year, I still lean that way. I would strongly say, fantasy football is a lot like porn.

And, you know, you come in, you know, maybe there's more basic stuff in the beginning. Hold up, Blum Cook. Yeah, well, I'm saying, like, the beginning, it's like a basic stuff. like 10 team league, you know, like, and then it's like, ooh, PPR, ooh, you know, and then eventually, once you're in like this dynasty fantasy football world, then there is like a level. No going back. With both porn and fantasy football. Will you hear about shit I've never, I've heard about fantasy football leagues where there are like

2,000 copies of every player and people fucking buy portfolies of them. And you're like, there's a point where you go into the dark forest and you don't know what you're going to find anymore. And like you just, basically, if you're happy with what you're doing right now, that's great. but if you're kind of itching for something a little weirder, then I would go into Dynasty. If you don't have a ton of friends,

not a lot going on, Dynasty. Dive in. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, that's the worst. All right. I'm just kidding. I'm in a Dynasty league.

If you want your draft to have actually any, like, just, like, meaning to them. I always look at, like, redraft. I'm like, eh, it doesn't fucking matter. Well, I'll just draft a new team next year. Like, what I like about Dynasty is, like, if you fuck this off, you really, fucking yourself up for a long time.

And if you're suck in Dynasty, then you're like... The stakes are higher. Imagine if, like, you know that feeling when you have a fantasy football team, like a regular redraft team and your team sucks? Then you're like, fuck, I have nothing going on in my life. I'd rather not check this team than like have to reckon with this. In Dynasty, it's like, oh my God, am I going to get Ashton Genty? And you get to watch the...

Fuck it. I'll watch the college football games. Now you're watching Boise State. That's really what Dynasty's about. That's what I'm talking about. And then you get four months of thinking, hearing the draft and hearing everyone talk about Ash and Genty, like, I'm going to get Ash and Genty. That's what's fun about Dynasty.

If you hate that fantasy football stops for half the year, then Dynasty is great, because it's pretty much a year-round sport. It's tough, though, because if you're the type of person who just kind of likes to draft guys and chill, Dynasty is kind of hard because if your team is shitty in Dynasty, you've got to figure it out. Otherwise, you're paying dues every year and you have no shot of winning. You got to make moves. It requires a lot more effort, I would say.

But with that said, we'll go through these guys because at the end of the day, it's just kind of like looking at the rookie landing spots anyway. We're still going to talk about the rookies in terms of regular fantasy and just real NFL too anyway. So let's going through this. I want to start with just Tier 1 here. I mean, it's just Aschen Genti. I think Ash and Genti is a one-guy tier, but obviously, Boise State got drafted by the Raiders, sixth overall. I don't really have anything to say. He's, I mean, other than J.G. Zacharisen, has this model that he's been doing. It's about 10 years old. And it's the second highest any player has been graded. The only player that graded higher in Gentry on Zach Reason's model

was Christian McCaffrey. And I actually think that's the comp for Gentie, D.K. I'm curious. I actually think Gentie actually is kind of like if McAfree was a little slower, but had more power. I mean, yeah, sure, that works. I think, like, Zeke is kind of how I... No, that's stupid. I don't know. Yeah, it's not really the right comp, but yeah, maybe. Stylistically, he doesn't, like, feel that similar to him, I guess.

I don't know. But I always kind of think of him as Zeke. But he's not landing in quite as cool of a spot where he can, like, hit the ground running. I think he's clearly the number one overall guy. Where does he go, though? Like, where does he go? I know we're going to mix dynasty and redraft. Like, he's going to be the number one guy in dynasty drafts.

However, in the first round of a regular draft, like he's the first rounder, right? I think he has to be. He's just, frankly, even if he didn't deserve it, he's too cool to not have on your team. How many running backs would you take over him this year? Like, Sequin, Bijan. You could argue still Derek Henry.

Derek Henry had the quietest 1900 rushing yards of all time. Yeah. So, I mean, just something about Sequin. You're going to take the 38-year-old guy over Gentie? I don't know. If you did, I wouldn't be like stupid. I'm not saying it's the, it's probably more rational to do,

but I feel like people are going to be like, Gentie. But he's already in that like, running back three to five range. Like, it's like Gians, H. and Henry and Genty.

I would say he's fourth or fifth because it's Bejan Sequeon Gibbs. I don't, I wouldn't take McCaffrey over Genty. Just consider, I don't want to hear anything about Caffrey's Achilles tendonitis ever again, like with my fifth pick.

So I think, I think, yeah, I would say the Gentie, it depends you feel about Derek Henry. But I would take Gentie over, probably over Devon A Chan. probably over Jonathan Taylor.

But he's in that range. So yeah, he's the first rounder. But he is the clear cut number one dynasty pick, even in Superflex. I've been in a couple of drafts ready, and it's always gentie. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, imagine. You've already been in a couple.

You sicko. Don't you do some before the draft happens? I do drafts before the draft happens. I think that's what I'm talking about with the porn, where it's like, that's psychotic. You're looking at like, it's definitely, it's riskier, but you can also get some pretty incredible value if you have a good bead on, like, where guys are going to go. if you know guys going to go on the second round or just like being able to predict

what guys go on day two versus day three is it's a huge advantage in pre-draft dynasty drafts. You guys laugh, but this is why fantasy football is like porn because what DECA just described, we're going to do a draft of players who aren't on teams yet. It's like, you look at the categories sometimes

and you're like, who's into this? Okay. Number two, Omerian Hampton, UNC went to the L.A. Chargers. In the first round, I mean, we actually all had Omerian Hampton. So we averaged our rankings, by the way. I probably should have mentioned that. We all ranked these like the top 40 or 40. Did we all have him at two? We all

had Amerian Hampton too. Which is just like Jim Harbaugh took a first round running back and I Yeah, like stylistically he fits. He goes to a team that wants to run the hell out of the football. They're going to have really interesting run designs. They want to establish the run. He's like perfect for them in so many other ways. Yeah. And again, we're talking about not just this coming year, but the whole career of this player. And with Ameri, it's like, because I'm sure if you're thinking, oh, Najee Harris is on this team,

probably not going to be a long-term guy in L.A., Nogie Harris. It's probably just going to be a one-year thing for him. I think Hampton feels both high floor and high ceiling. Yeah. You know? Hampton, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked at all if next year we're ranking a Marion Hampton above Ashton Genty in 2026,

because at the end of the day, this is Jim Harbaugh offense with the Greg Rob. Better offensive line. They have four offensive line. They have four first rounders on the Chargers' offensive line. I mean, obviously some of them will watch out, but there's talent there. And so, I mean, to Craig's point, Naji for one year,

honestly, Noggi could last two months. I mean, if you told me that O'Meer Hampton's going to take over this backfield at some point between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Like, he's also a solid pass protector. So, I mean, I don't know. I think not it's just a matter of time. It's just, it's whether we mention it in month, measure it in months or ceilings. But yeah, Hampton's going to be a star. He also runs with the midriff.

He's one of those players that practices, like he just wears the jersey around his fucking pads and just like shows his abs, which I do think makes you significantly. Like, Zeke, it makes you look a lot cooler. does. But then Zeeke got fat. Couldn't really do it anymore. I always think it's crazy when... That was also cool. Yeah, true.

I always think it's crazy when running backs don't wear, or certain players, don't wear leg pads, like receivers. None of them wear leg pads. Nobody wears knee pads anymore. Dude, they don't wear...

Literally none of the players were pads. Pants come up over their knees now. Seekwon actually gave... I actually talked to Sipwin. The five inch seam. The five inch in seams are really in at football right now. Anything that makes you feel slower,

they don't wear. And knee pads make you feel slower. Like the hip pads, like, yeah, all that shit's gone. I honestly get that. Look, good, feel good, play good. I always hated wearing a cup playing baseball. That sucked. I used to just remove it. You say what are the odds and then, you know, a couple third basemen get some injuries and you're like, oh my gosh. Luckily, I didn't play third. I couldn't play third base as a lefties.

I was like, dude, I don't need it. How many, do professional baseball players still wear a cup or do they not do that? Well, catchers do. Well, yeah, but I don't, that's a good question. I don't actually know that. I kind of feel like they don't. That feels like a little league thing. Dude, wearing a cup is actually fucking weird.

It is the most uncomfortable thing ever. It's the giant, like, conical. You look like fucking white goodman. What's his name? It does look like white good. Like when he inflates his crap. Yeah. And then it just gets out of the way anyway.

Yeah. You're like, this thing's going to do more damage than it is. It's not comfortable. It was like I dreaded baseball only because I had to put on the cup. If there was no cup, I would have had no issue. It's the most, oh, the pants, the belt, the socks, the cleats. Counterpoint, Craig, getting hit in the dick hurts. Well, it's kind of like bringing an umbrella just so it doesn't rain.

It's like you wear the cup and then like, nothing's going to happen. No. Quick reflexes. That's why you're, that's why you really focus on, you know, field and ground balls so you don't take a shot to the nuts. Well, this is the thing with the hurdling. This is the thing with hurdling where it's like some guy's hurdle. And I'm like, oh my God. Like, it's just the hebie jibbies if you miss, you know.

Do you remember the pole valter? whose dick hit the bar? Oh, could I forget? Dude, the ringer did a thing of the top sports moments of the year. You gotta get that guy to jockstrap. That's why John Hamm couldn't be a pole vulture. He wanted to be, but he couldn't.

That was his first passion. That's why he became an actor late. He was trying to be pole vulture in his 20s, didn't work. I thought you were kidding. I am kidding. Oh. Cut down. He didn't look like a pole vaulter.

I was like, what? Okay. All right, number three of Ted McMillan, receiver from Arizona, went to the Carolina Panthers. I just, I mean, Craig, this is your guy. I think they works really well in Carolina. I do too. I think I was putting together a checklist of what I want in a rookie wide receiver

if I'm willing to draft them highly. And I think there's four boxes they need to check. And it's for success. This is like basically the rookie wide receiver checklist. And it's do they have very little past catching competition, both with other wide receivers and tight ends? Do they have a good quarterback who doesn't run all the time? Like a pocket passing quarterback?

Is there not an elite rushing attack? Are they a fairly balanced offense? And then are they a first round talent? And I went and looked back at like the last three, four years of the drafts. And I wanted to see how many guys qualified for this. And then what happened that season? Malik Neighbors was that last year, fantastic year. Brock Bowers was that fantastic year.

Brian Thomas, same situation, fantastic year. And then Ladd McConkey, who was not a first rounder, but close, fantastic year. The only guy who didn't really work was Xavier Leggett, who was a first round pick last year. He came into Carolina and didn't really pan out. but he had all those other boxes were checked. If you keep going back, 22, Drake London, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olive. You go back to, like, Jalen Wallet, 100 catches when he had nobody around him in Miami in 2021. I think Ted McMillan and Carolina, zero competition, pocket passing, rising quarterback,

no elite rushing attack, and he's a first-round talent. So it's like, I really don't see a scenario unless Ted is just a massive bust. I don't really see a scenario in which he doesn't have like 900, 1,000 yards this year. as a rookie. It was also reported that Bryce Young was the ones like hardcore advocating for him, getting up on a table so they can see him. And, you know, pounding his, pounding the table is the expression that he was using.

Yeah, he really wanted to, so I think that's like a huge deal. He was pounding the bottom of the table because he was under it, but yeah. You know, it's like, you know, the scene in Lord of the Rings, Hyph, it's Craig, I want to ask you since you don't know. But when they go to, they go to the, Yeah, the first, no, the fellowship, the first one where they go to that bar and, like, they're running around after he puts the rig or whatever. And it's just like, some reason I just had that image in my mind. No, but I think this is going to be an interesting spot in dynasty drafts and just overall, when we're drafting next year, Travis Hunter versus Ted McMillan.

I know a lot of people in the dynasty space and the fantasy space in general like Travis Hunter a little bit more than Ted McMillan. And so I think this is going to be, in Hyphitz, you had him ranked a little bit. I have Hunter over him and here's why. Huge surprise. Here's why. No, no, no. I think that it, like, I acknowledge that Ted McMillan is probably a safer pick because he doesn't have like an entirely different position that gets no points that he wants to play.

And so I totally acknowledge that he's also not playing opposite the best rookie wide receiver of last year. Yeah. So you probably should rank Ted McMillan over Travis Hunter. What I'm trying to do more this season is acknowledge, you know, if it's a toss up and one of the players you fucking love, Just like, God damn it, it's fantasy football, enjoy yourself a little. And so I move Travis Hunter to third. And I, you know what, if I have to lose an entire season because he just decides to play cornerback one year, so be it.

Well, it's dynasty, so you could lose an entire decade. That's true. That's very true. So it's a little reckless. If you're getting really down to, you know, the nitty gritty about it, Ted McMillan playing 90% of the snaps versus Hunter playing like 70%, which is, I think, the number they threw out. Significant difference. It's enough to, like, make me just slight.

Lee and Ted McMillan. I really like both of them. If you have listened to me talk about Travis Hunter about how I think he's going to be the most wonderful, exciting player ever and you want to partake him the joy with me every time he comes up, you're like, wow, he's on my team. Take him over.

I don't think it's a bad pick if you do it. But if you don't, if you think I might not necessarily be tethered to reality, I would take Ted McMillan and I would not take Travis Hunter. And honestly, that's it. I get it. If you want to, if you were enjoying it, I think that's part of fantasy, though, is like there is something in the fact

You're going to spend like 200 hours with these fucking people and like enjoy yourself. Do you think you will, as if you draft Travis Hunter as a receiver, do you think you'll enjoy watching him play defense or will that kind of suck? Because you're like, I am betting that he would be a receiver. No, it's going to suck. That would be super. Yeah, you could argue Travis Hunter should go to 14th.

Well, he might be, it might be very stressful because if he's playing both sides of the ball in a game, every time he's on defense, you're like, ah, don't get hurt, don't get hurt. Or like, stop playing defense for. I just want a new feeling, man. I just want a new feeling. I think the novelty of what he's doing is more valuable, I guess, as a fan

than it is as a fantasy owner. Like, it'll be cooler for the Jaguars fans. But as a fantasy owner, the two-position thing doesn't really do anything for you. To me, when I feel like Travis Hunter's ceiling on the Jags, with Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas, who was incredible last year, to me, he's like in the Devante Smith range

where he's like awesome, but it's slightly more limited. if he's not exactly playing all of the snaps, if he's doing the two-side thing, he's got Brian, to me, it's like Devante Smith, like kind of 1,000 to 1100 yards a year, five to seven touchdowns.

To me, that kind of feels like the range he's going to be in, which is still obviously great. But Ted, to me has the like, you know, like unlimited ceiling, in my opinion. I have zero. Also, wait, I'm wrong. I put, no, that's not sure.

I had 10 after it. No, I just want Travis Hunter on my football team, but I'm fully acknowledging it is, that's kind of dumb what I'm doing. You seriously could argue I will say though It's like 15th in diamonds You are not you're not alone though

I've seen He goes ahead of Ted McMillan I think actually the majority I've seen He goes ahead of Ted McMillan so And it's funny last year We said people are sour on that But I think last year we were right Where we were said

I think Devon HM is one of the hardest players To rank ever Because it's like oh my and now I'm like Travis Hunter Travis Hutter is probably going to be the hardest player To rank ever As a rookie I'm going to figure out what

that looks like ahead of time is going to be kind of nuts. Also, wait, real quick in Travis Hunter. Some leagues do IDP, like defense and some people are freaking out because platforms are going to let you play Travis Hunter at cornerback, which is kind of cheating because you want to talk about weird porn categories. IDP. Yeah, I know. That one I've never clicked on that category for those who like it.

No king shaming, but like I'm not into that. My advice, but we've got a lot of people actually who are like, oh, freaking out. The answer is you have to do an auction draft. You just have to an auction draft, $200 budget or whatever. and if someone wants to spend $100 and Travis Hunter, like, cool, you get an extra position,

but like, it can't just be the first pick. That's kind of annoying, but, like, just do an auction and solves everything. Okay, number five, who Cam Ward. Obviously, you know,

what, Karen Carter Ward to Washington State to Miami, draft of the Titans number one. Probably the biggest disparity between a number one pick and a fifth round quarterback in terms of discourse that we'll ever have in the history of sports.

DK. Mm. Four, three or four years from now, the Titans have either, paid Cam Ward at like one of them $250 million contract extensions and he's good, or the Titans are declining Cam Ward's fifth year option and looking for a quarterback again. It's one of those scenarios, which are you picking?

I mean, if I was going to be very rational and just probably pick the best odds of that, it's probably the latter. Because, I mean, the first overall pick quarterbacks are, it's just putting a lot on your shoulders when you're going to have to try and lift up a team that had the number one pick for a reason. Very bad team. I like what they did in the draft, honestly, and I think they have a burgeoning offensive line,

but I don't know. I think if you're playing the odds, it's probably going to be he doesn't work out. I am pretty confident in him, though, like just from a biased point of view. Like, I just like him. I think he's going to be good. So I'm willing to take him right around this range.

I definitely would take Gentie and O'Hampton, Tett, and Hunter before him, just unless I was absolutely desperate for a quarterback of my team. I just think those guys have a higher floor. I kind of, what do you guys, what do you guys think about this? Because I don't, I mean, I don't know. He's, he's not your typical first overall pick either, you know? I think I felt bullied to put Cam Ward here. Like, it doesn't move me in any way.

You know what I mean? Like, I felt like I was, I was obligated to do this because he was the number one overall pick and he's a quarterback and we're doing super flex. So it's like, all right, I mean, you should probably take the number one overall pick at quarterback in the top five of a dynasty record draft. But like, I would take him and then feel nothing afterwards. I think that's a great way to put it. Because on one hand, you're like going to pass on them because it's a mea quarterback draft.

And then I'm like, okay, well, CJ, imagine if you, you had passed on CJ Stroud a couple years ago. Because it was like not a great draft as next year's class is going to be. And then you don't have C.J. Stroud. And you're like, damn, I could have had C.J. Stroud. And you're like, unlike in real football, like the Titans drafting Cam Ward. If Cam Ward is mediocre, they're probably not going to draft another quarterback next year if they suck. And Dynasty, if you take Cam Ward and your team's awful and you once again have another high. You can just take a quarterback again next year.

Exactly. And I will say, though, I, there is something I've been thinking about, you know, you always joke that teams need like the idiot test or someone doesn't know. It's not of the idiot. Actually, it should be a smart person just as no idea what you guys are talking about. You know what I mean? And the smart person, but uninformed walks into the room. And then, like, I was thinking if that person was listening to like our show all year,

Toma Cam Ward. I keep thinking about the fact that last year, the NFL advisory committee gave him a fifth round grade. And he went, he undeclared from the draft. because he was supposed to go the fifth round. And then he was the first pick. And then I'm like, that's kind of wild when some people are out here. Like, I actually think some of his best season was Washington State.

There's people saying that? Some people say that. Yeah, it is a red flag. I will say it's more common than you probably think. And that's why he came back. But yeah, it is, it is a red flag. It's just one of those you're going to file away if he sucks. That's all.

He is not, and I said this, but he's not your typical. first overall pick. Like everyone's so excited about it. Everyone's like super believes in this guy. He has incredible, you know, prospect profile, all that. He's like a fifth year senior who was a zero star recruit. You know, like this is not your typical. Was he a zero star?

Yes. Kimmer was a zero star. Yeah. That's like this is pretty rare. He ran the wing tea in high school. He's trying out. Yeah. That's why he was zero star.

The wing tea, which is like that was invented basically by Pop Warner. That's how I will. the fucking wing T is. That's how long he's been playing in college. Dude, yeah, he's only, he's a Bo Nix's age. No, I actually kind of like Camboard. I think he's gonna be good. I kind of believe in the Titans L line.

I kind of don't care that they don't really have any great receivers. I love that they add Xavier or Strapo. Like, I think that they built the, I kind of believe he was all in on Cam because they drafted a 4-8 guy or they took him in undrafted free agency. No, I'm in because I think the offensive line with Bill Callahan, like he's like the last like 30 years,

he's gone to a team and the year one, the O-Line sucked and year two is better. And I'm like, they have J.C. Lathen. They overpaid Dan Moore. But I'm kind of like, you know, I kind of just, I'll believe, but maybe I'm a sap. All right, number six here, we have Trayvion Henderson from Ohio State. He went to the Patriots. And then seven, we have Quinshaw Judkins from Ohio State who went to the Browns.

I might as well just lump him in because they were taken like... Hard to decide between these two, isn't it? Yeah, it really was. I thought it was super easy. I took Trayvion Henderson. I was surprised you guys actually had to... Just because you think he's better, probably, right? I think he's, I mean, so I'm torn because this is like the least sexy comp ever,

but I feel... Josh McDaniels is the offensive coordinator for the Patriots. To me, Trivion, it's just what if James White had just been Austin Echler the whole time? That's kind of how I'm looking at this. That was D.K.'s comp for him and his draft guy was Austin Echler. And it was tough because I was like, man, Austin Echler on the Pats and the Josh McDaniels offense with Drake May, if the page, and then the Pats offense takes off. I mean, Austin Echler was the number one running back in fantasy, I think, for one or two years

and was like basically a top five guy for like half a decade. So that definitely crossed my mind. but there was something about like how often do people, like the Austin Echler prototype is quite rare that I feel like that actually happens. And Quintan Jenkins is more of like,

I just kind of was like, what if he's Nick Chubb? And it's like he's going to get 300 touches a year. And that's like a safer bet to me that like the volume that he'll get is more reliable and dependable than like, what if Trayvion Henderson is Austin Echler?

I think. But they're very, very close in my mind. My only comment to what you said is when you're like, what if Quinn Chudhud Jenkins is Nick Chubb? Nick Chub before he had the knee injury in college, not the recent one, but the college injury.

Nick Chubb was going to be in that Sequin, Gen T, Rennie, running back tier. Like, Chub was as good as those guys and then he had the injury. And the fact that he had the career anyway, it's incredible. DK, what do you make of the, who would you, I feel like,

I'm surprised that you were into Judkins because I feel like you love Trayvon Henderson as much as anyone. Well, I, for the record, did put Trayvon over Judkins because I just think he's a better player, point blank. But that being said, they're so completely different. It's really hard because obviously Travian-Henerson, and this is maybe depends on what format you're playing.

I think probably we do this for half PBR. He's going to catch way more passes. He's going to be very involved in the passing game. And Nathan Yonke from PFF pointed this out. Like in all the years that McDaniels has been a OC or a head coach, he like his third down guy is almost never led the team in rushing, in terms of rushing attempts. So it's like he, in other words, Josh McDaniels usually has an early down guy and a third down guy.

But Danny Woodhead or. Right. And so he's going to be a complimentary back. And I think we already knew that coming into the league. He's not going to be like a heavy volume foundation back or whatever. But I just think he's going to be so efficient in the passing game. And he's going to be on a better team with a better quarterback. And I just think that just gives him a higher floor.

It's also more fun. I just don't know if I trust Judkins that much. Yeah. I think Drake May's quarterback is running back is just more fun than whatever the fuck the Browns are going to be doing. I think that honestly is also. And also because, you know, it's funny is like, The Browns then went and drafted Dylan Samson, the running back into Tennessee, who I love.

It was also very exciting, yeah. And I think Dylan Samson is Tony Pollard energy. And it's funny because now the Browns kind of did. I think the Browns are thinking of it as, what if we had discount Nick Chubb and discount Cream Hunt? But it also reminds me of like the Zeke Elliott, Tony Pollard backfield that what Cleveland has right now, where Quinn Chudson could be a three-down back.

Like the Browns, they drafted Judkins on day two. And they were like, yeah, I mean, Andrew Barry, the GM of the Browns used the term Belcow. the assistant GM for the Browns used the term, exceptionally strong, physical, tough, productive, three-down guy. Then they drafted another running back the next day. And I'm like, I mean, I think that makes sense. But I'm so curious how the Judkins-Samsant thing works out.

I'm still willing to bet on Judkins. But I'm like really confident Henderson as an NFL player. Like, I just, it's so hard to like of all these. Henderson's the abook of this draft, which I know is a little simplistic. Oh, how's state. But like, they both went back for reason. Like, Abuk and Henderson are the two guys.

I think people have the most confidence in will be in the end. NFL producing for like at least six years. Yeah, it's more fun probably to take Henderson. I think I'm just like, how many times is a third down back or like a third down plus back really become like a top 10 running back in fantasy? I don't think he's just a third down. And that's the thing is D.K., one of the other comps for Trevionn Henderson is Jemir Gibbs. I think that's the other really popular one.

And I think there's something about the idea that Jemir Gibbs, the knock on him was, it wasn't so much that he can't, he doesn't have the size to run between the tackles. It was really like a vision thing with Jemir Gibbs. You can learn that. I kind of think Trivon and Henderson like Gibbs and then by the, I think Gibbs kind of is it. He could be a three down back now. I think when Montgomery got hurt down the stretch,

I think Gibbs did a great job. I think Henderson could be that kind of guy. I don't maybe it doesn't emphasize. It's very close. And I would also like kind of just counter Craig. There are all, there's always a couple pass catchers like quote unquote pass catching backs that are sprinkled into the top 10,

I feel like every year, especially in half PPR and PPR. It's just the league is going into so much where they use the running back so much in the past game. The three downback guys, though. It's like, yeah, the guys who catch a lot of passes are also getting first down rushes. It's rare that I feel like it's like the guys who aren't on the field on first down. But maybe I'm wrong. Well, that's why Hampton is, I mean, that's why Gentie and Hampton are the top two picks

is because you're like, I think that those are three down backs the next five years. But I mean, I want to say Scott Barrett did a study on this like a couple years ago. And this is for PBR. So that's obviously a little bit more. but it's like every target is worth two and a half times every touch in terms of fantasy points. Sorry, yeah, compared to carry. So it's just, I don't know. It is tough, though.

I think it's a really tough decision. Generally speaking, the strongest correlation year over year is just touches. So, yeah, you want to get the guy that gets the most touches. As long as we're doing the participation trophy thing for catches, you do want guys who can catch the ball. Can I read you one quote on Henderson here? I saw that Mike Reese that he has been covering the Patriots Forever. had a quote from Keenan Bailey, who's the other offensive coordinator

at Ohio State after Chip Kelly. And Keenan Bailey, who's, you know, helping run the Ohio State offense was talking about how Trivian Henderson came back for this year. It was like basically like found his, found religion, a lot more, like faith in his life. And then also, and he was like doing things that like seniors never do when they come back,

who could have gone to the NFL, like offering to play special teams. And he was talking about how like his faith kind of made him a better football player. And Keenan Bailey said, he told, ESPN. There's a neat juxtaposition there. Trevion's an off-the-charts man of Christ, literally holding baptism services

and preaching in the local community. And then he steps between those white lines and he will rip your face off. And I was like, I read that. Trayvion Henderson is baptizing babies? Dude, he's like Arthur from Peaky Blinders. Oh my God. I kind of love that.

Oh, man. I was just thinking of like every time he does like a stiff arm, we got to say he's blessing someone. Oh, nice. I do think that... Baptize you in the name of the Lord. The power of Christ compels you. I do think that if I was in a draft, even though right now I have Quinshawn one spot ahead of Trayvion,

if it's my turn to pick a player and they're both there, I'm like, I'd probably take a Trayvon. Yeah. I think there's also a latent sort of just... I had Trayvon. Our side, Judkins, way lower in my rankings. So there's just like kind of a... I was just sticking to my guns a little bit on this.

You mean on your big board? Sorry, on my big board, yeah. I just didn't think he was as dynamic in any way. So, I don't know. It's hard. You don't want to overreact to landing spot, but you definitely have to react to it, you know? I also think I just want players on the Pats more than I do players on the brands. So, again, number one, we have Ashton Genties his own tier.

And then we have a tier two with Amerian Hampton, Tett McMillan, Travis Hunter, Cam Ward, Trivian, Henderson, Quinnshod Judkins. Number eight, we have Luther Burden, the receiver from Mizzou. who went to the Bears. I have to ask you, where do you guys think the tier ends? Does burden in this tier? I don't know if it ends here

or if there's five more players in the tier. But if anyone wants to end the tier, just give it a shout and we could talk about it. I kind of think the tier ends at Judkins, and this starts a new tier. Because I think that Burden's the first one where you actually are kind of like, is he going to make it?

Yeah. Even though there's no question about Burden's talent. Right. But there are questions about like, but can he like play receiver? Like, you know, was he gadgeting it up because of the quarterback situation or because of him?

Yeah. Anytime the low-end comp is Cadarious Tony, I feel like they should not be in that tier above. I think that's super fair. If you can crash and burn into nothing and completely fizzle out, they probably don't need to be with Trayvion. Also, for what it's worth, he's landing in a very target. There's just a lot of guys in this offense now. And we don't know how it's all going to kind of shake out in terms of like who's going to get the most. Obviously, Roma Dunesay, he could ascend to top. tier levels next year, and it wouldn't surprise anyone, I don't think. Well, maybe some people,

but it wouldn't surprise me if he turns into like a true, legit number one. DJ Moore is still there. They're kind of redundant. They just drafted Colson level. And Burden are redundant? Right. Well, they have this, they have a similar skill set. Yeah, no, I'm just wanted to clarify. Yeah. I mean, DGi Moore was the first round with 24th or something. Roman Dunez was ninth. They took Colson Loveland the tight end 10th. Burden with 35th. Caleb Williams, the first pick. Like, they better be good. Right. But I guess my point is, even if you really believe in Burden's talent and his fit. And I've just got these visions of, you know,

Brian Johnson turning him into, I'm on Ross St. Brown. I'm just like, oh, I got to get this guy. Sorry, Ben Johnson. Brian Johnson was the Eagles coordinator who could prepare for blitzes in the playoffs. Right, thank you. But at the same time, sorry, my dog is barking in the background if you can hear that. But at the same time, he was like, how dare you, sir? But at the same time, yeah, I think you have to be a little bit pragmatic here and say

there's a lot of mouths to feed in this offense. And Luther Burton had the right. reputation of being kind of a crybaby or whatever it is. And that just worries me a little bit. So I'm kind of all over the place with Burton. I don't know what to do with him. I think I'm going to end up being pretty excited if I take him, though, because just the upside is so scintillating. After Travis Hunter, who certainly has the widest delta of weight. You could take him third and had no problem. You could take Travis Hunter 15th. He'd be like, he's a defender. And I wouldn't argue. After him, though, I think Luther Burden probably is the widest variance where I'm like,

you can take a fifth if you wanted to. Like, he's incredible. Like, he's an incredible athlete. You could also be like, I don't think he's going to work. I agree. And I get that too. Yeah. If you're one of those upside swing for the fence drafters, then he's the guy you want.

Yeah. Craig, by the way, breaking news that just happened. Robert Woods, Bobby Trees, our beloved Bobby Trees, signed with your Pittsburgh Steelers.

Oh. Wow. I don't know if that gets you going or not, but I like one year, $2 million deal. Yeah. I like that we have a veteran

professional presence. in the wide receiver room. I think that will be beneficial to the current Steelers wide receiver room. Craig's team having Robert Woods, Jack Sawyer, and maybe Aaron Rogers,

is pretty incredible. D.K. Metcalfe George Pickens. Yeah. It's kind of insane. The collection of people is just like incredible. But yeah, in short, I guess,

I told you one of these was a top five receiver. A receiver in this class was like a top five fantasy receiver in two years. You'd be like, well, it's probably Tet, Travis, or Luther Burden. Yeah. But also, if I told you one of these guys is not in the NFL anymore in five years,

you'd be like... I'm willing to take that gamble for Luther. By the way, that reminds me, Ben Johnson, not Brian Johnson, Ben Johnson, during his presser after the second round or second and third round or whatever, they were talking about the selection of Luther Burden, and he goes, yeah, my buddy, or my buddy Jamo or whatever,

Javison Williams, text to me right after we made this pick. And he goes, you just got a dog just like me. And I was like, is that what you want? Like, you want to compare him to Jameson Williams? I know James and Williams is exciting,

but it took you two years again on the field, pal. I was just like, I just remember thinking like, is that, is this complimentary or derogatory that he's just like me? I did love that Luther Burden after round one of the draft

posted an Instagram story of him working out out of field. I'm like Shador's at the club. Yeah. I respected that. Love a good performative work. out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's great. Do you think he did anything or just showed up and sat down and took the picture and went home? He's like, it's one in the morning. I'm leaving.

Oh, man. That would be cold. I mean, at the end of the day, it took, it took him effort to go to that field. So I respect it. That's true. Baby steps. All right. Next one here. Number nine, Caleb Johnson, the Iowa running backs. Now once again, like everyone else in your Pittsburgh Steelers, Craig. This is where it gets murky, right? Yes. I feel like already Caleb Johnson is becoming like a cool hip, not hipster, but like, people in the know are like, this is going to work. And I'm tempering my expectations. And I'm kind of, once again, I feel bullied to put him here because I didn't love Caleb Johnson in the pre-draft process.

But I know it's like, oh, he's mini Derek Henry. Now he's with Arthur Smith. The zone offense running scheme is going to be perfect for him. And it's all going to be great. And that's just what everyone's telling me. Last year, we kind of heard, it was like, oh, Naji and Warren. are actually the secret one-two punch of fantasy that no one's talking about. And that didn't really work out.

And so I don't know. I guess I'm really in wait and C mode with Caleb Johnson. I'm not going to get over my skis trying to draft him, I think. Dika, do you think this is one of the best, like, skill set, like, of the player to the situation landing spots of any skill player in the draft? And also, can we overrate that fact? But do you think it's, like, properly? Yeah, we can certainly overrate it for sure.

I think the in terms of landing spots for Caleb Johnson, he needed to land in a system where the coach is going to kind of like know how to utilize his skill set. Obviously the comp, even though it's totally unfair for Caleb Johnson to be compared to Derek Henry.

But like stylistically, I came up with that and I know Nate came up that totally separately. Like there's a reason we thought of it is because he kind of does need that runway to get going. And there's times... Which Nate? Nate Dogg? Nate Tice.

Yeah, Nate Dock. And so I think he landed in a great situation for him. Like, of all the places he could have landed, I think this is one of my favorites that he could possibly have landed in. And I think Jalen Warren was probably never going to be like a big high volume runner for them. He just doesn't have the size. He's dealt with injuries. Hasn't he, Craig?

Like, he's been nicked up. He's always pulling something. Yeah. And so... It's a perfect one-two punch. It's like, I mean, it's again, like, he's not nodgy really stylistically, in terms of like the roles they're filling of like the first and second down guy and then Warren comes in on third down. He is filling that role.

Yeah. So I don't know. But when it comes to the draft position for this, like this is where maybe Luther Burden is kind of his own tier. And then the next tier starts where I think you could go any, you could go with like five or six different guys at this spot. And I would be totally fine with that. If you're really high on Caleb Johnson, you want to go for him. I probably wouldn't take him here. In fact, I didn't put him this high.

But I kind of understand why people would be bullied. on this because Arthur Smith loves to run the rock. Who's the guy in Atlanta that he loves so much, the slow dude that was like getting it just as many carries as Bijan Roder. Tyler Al Jir. Yeah, Tyler Al Jir. He doesn't care if you're a little bit slow. He just wants you to pick the right lane,

get forward, pick up yards, pick up hard yards. That's like all he gives a shit about. He's all about that stuff. And I just think Caleb Johnson kind of fits that perfectly. So, yeah, I mean, I'm probably not going to have like a ton of Caleb Johnson in Dynasty, even though I like him just because I think it does take a little bit of a leap of faith. I'm kind of with Craig on this one. Even though I think I like him a lot more than you, I just think, I don't know,

he's going to be in a committee for sure. What do you think about my best? Yeah, well, I think so, because I think they're going to use Jalen Warren a lot. I, can I tell you what I really think? Can I admit how stupid I feel about this? And I realize this today. I think I would be less excited about Caleb Johnson if you spelled his name with a C instead of a K. And I swear to God, something about Caleb with a K. Got a little pizzazz.

Cook. And I'm like, like Caleb with a K, I'm like, I kind of got him right after Quinn shot Judkins. Caleb with a C? I have him like down by like

fucking Tyler Ward. I have him like 14th. Yeah. I swear to God. And I would like to think I'm like a very smart football analyst. In reality, I'm a dumb,

like, I'm just an ape. You know, we're all just monkey brains and something. The K looks so cool. Look, you never. ever been more right. I'm so jealous of this take. I completely agree. You're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're knocked it out of the

part. There's also something cool. This is, again, totally meaningless. And I don't know why it matters, but it does. I can already picture him in a Steelers uniform because the Iowa uniform is so almost identical to it. So just like he looks cool in that uniform. I already know that. This, I'm telling you, this is a, this is kind of a happy Gilmore, but there's just one problem happy situation. It's like every, I mean, we're like Arthur Smith. He's got the cool name, the Iowa black and yellow. And then he gets on the field and you're like, this guy's Nodgy Harris. I don't know. We'll see. I'm going to. I'm going to send you guys here. This is the Google dot come on.

I'm going to hear, I'm saying these guys, look at this. I'm highlighting it. See Caleb Johnson, you see this? Now I'm going to do a C. Where are you fucking taking that guy? Caleb? Yeah. Yeah, that's tough.

Ugh. Changes everything. Over RJ Harvey? No way. No chance. Hell no. Caleb with a C. I think I've seen in drafts.

The drafts I've been in, I think there's a mix here. but I think people are a little more excited about Harvey just because he's got more exclusiveness. We have RJ Harvey number 10. So he went to Central Florida and he was drafted by the Broncos. Yeah. You guys have RJ Harvey 9th.

I haven't 15th. I'm in to Harvey. What'd you say? I'm in. I'm into Harvey. You're in? I'm into Denver. I have to shout out Dane Brugler

at the Athletic who does the incredible thing to be. They scouts 400 players. Dan's the sickest of all the sick ones. No, he scouts like 2,600 players. Yeah, that's a good point. I think he said there was like 2,600 players in the beast. That's fucking nuts. Like insanity.

He's like, yeah, he's the gold standard. That's, I don't know how that's insane. So anyway, so he, but he, I'm not, it's like an almanac. It's kind of incredible. Yeah. And so, uh, his thing on R.J. Harvey was fascinating. And so R.J. Harvey was quiet as a kid. So his dad, he, he's dad, RG Harvey had a baseball in his crib.

Like his dad put a football in his crib. And then he's playing flag football as a kid. And RG Harvey was. Yeah, it didn't really work. Isn't it like my one plaza, fumbles? Yeah, well, anyway. But so it's because he was quiet. So his dad made him play quarterback

because he wanted to force RJ Harvey to talk. So he started playing quarterback and then got obsessed with quarterback and then demanded to stay at quarterback. So UCF offered him as a running back and Virginia offered RG Harvey as a quarterback. So he went to Virginia to play quarterback and then sat for you, it didn't really play.

And then UCF came around and was like, hey, do you want to play? And RJ Harvey's like, I'm homesick. Also, five foot eight, probably not going to play quarterback. Right. So he went to UCF and played for three years. But he did not play running back until 2020, until 2021 is a quarterback. He's now been drafted by Sean Payton. Do you guys see where I'm going with this?

RJ Harvey's role with the Broncos is going to be if Darren's rolls could throw football. Oh. He's Tayson Hill. The Taysom Hill now is RJ Harvey can throw, not like incredible. Well, but he, well enough He was like an quarterback offer to a D1 school. And so I kind of think

if Darren Sprouls could throw twice or three or four times a season, I think that's what R.J. Harvey will be at this Broncos offense. Are you complimenting him or not? That's why, well, that's what I'm saying. I don't, I don't know if that's a compliment or not. Because you ranked him 15th, we had him ninth.

Now you're saying he's Darren Sproul's, but he can throw. Which is a good thing. It's good. But also how great was Darren Sprouls in fantasy. I think... Here's the deal.

What's the first thing you think of when you think of Bo Nix? Checking downs. Even though it's not fair and Broncos fans are just

fucking like sick, fuck you. All the Broncos ghosts are haunting us. I'm picturing Bo Nicks at Oregon, all right? He was a little bit better about it in the pros.

But like he is 100% going to take what the defense gives him. I think checkdowns are going to be a huge part of it. He's going to be a big part of the passing game. Sean Payton has always

utilized his running backs really, really well for fantasy, especially when you have a highly drafted running back. So I'm super excited about Harvey. There's no company. I mean, he has Adrick Estimate, Julele McLaughlin. There's very little competition. The team is good. You have the Sean Peyton rushing attack.

You know, to me, this is kind of like, I guess I'm doing the same thing that people are doing to Caleb Johnson on Pittsburgh that I'm doing to RJ Harvey in Denver. But I do trust it more, to be honest. I trust what Sean Payton is doing more. I think that's the best argument is that as I went through this list, I went through and I was like, how much do you trust the coaching staff? So, I mean,

we'll get to this in a second. Like, Colson Loveland is the next player we have at 11. And, you know, obviously the Michigan tight end who went to Chicago. And like, for me, it's more than a tiebreaker of like,

who picked you? Like, was it Sean McVeigh? Or, you know what I mean? Like, or was it not? And I do think it's fair to be like,

Caleb Johnson went to Arthur Smith and, like, who frankly, like, if the Steelers are bad again, maybe he gets fired as coordinator. Maybe the Steelers don't want his own scheme in a year or two from now, especially if Aaron Rogers, the quarterback would have they get a different quarterback.

Arthur Smith famously, the guy who ignores his good players and chooses to give the ball to the other guys. Yeah, to make a point. So if you're like, Sean Payton, when he drafts a player for better or worse, has a vision for said player. Yeah. So, yeah, I have no problem. Usually. He really high. Also, it's an exciting player.

But everyone wants to say Archie Harvey's Buck Eirving. I really think he is Darren Sprouls in this Sean Payton offense. That's a fun one. So the next player we have here is Colston Loveland, who was quietly, I think he was actually one of the more, I mean, we didn't have huge disparities, but I had him top, I guess I had him ninth, maybe that's fair. But I'm like, he's the 10th pick in the draft.

I know. And Ben Johnson compared him to Sam Laporta, and tight ends don't always do great in their first year in the NFL. And we're doing, you know, this is Dynasty 2, but overall, I think this is going to work. Like, who knows Sam LaPorter better than Ben Johnson? And the other thing about this, Sam Laporte had five touchdowns in four years at Iowa.

And then Sam Laporte had 10 touchdowns this rookie year in the NFL. So when we look at the Colson level thing, we're like, well, he didn't really produce. And like, you know, it's Michigan. It wasn't really a passing offense. I'm like, all right, we just saw Ben Johnson do this two years ago. And then he feels so strongly about Colson level. And he's taking him 10th in the draft. I am going to trust Ben Johnson's one.

Maybe it's to my detriment. Yeah. I think we talk about Sam LaPort as rookie year. What happened last year? Yeah, like seven yards, seven touchdowns. He was like the third or fourth option in the offense. This is the same thing I worry about with the Bears, where if everything goes right for the Bears,

it's DJ Moore, Romadunes, a Luther Burden are getting the rock the most. I agree with that, D.K., that's why I have. Look, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I have an insane amount of Colston Loveland in my leagues right now because I've taken him pretty much everywhere I can. And I play in a lot of tight-end premium league, so that's going to be a big difference for me.

but I do worry that it's going to be frustrating because they have other options in the offense. And so, I don't know, that's my big word with him. But push comes to shove, 10th pick in the draft, like he said, Hivitz. They love him. They think he has elite upside. And if Caleb Williams can develop a good rapport with this, like the sky's limit, he could be the tight at one.

You know what I mean? So maybe not, maybe I don't think he's Brock Bowers, but like, you want to, yeah, exactly. the best tight ends are just the number one receiver on their team like Bowers and Loveland. The first or second receiver, yeah. Yeah, he'll never be the number one on this team. But to your point, High Fitz, it's Tyler Warren might be the number one or number two option on the Colts, but we don't have him higher than Colson Loveland because we're trusting the quarterback and the offense and the play caller.

And I do think that matters with Loveland, where even if there is a lot of competition, I trust, like I would feel dumber betting against Ben Johnson than betting on him. But are we making a mistake just talking about that? Because we have a level at 11. spoiler, we have Tyler Warren 14th. And that's actually another huge disparity we have. Actually, no, actually, we're kind of similar on that one. Craig, you're 15th, I have him 10th.

But like, is that a mistake on our end? Because situation can change faster than talent. If we all think Tyler Warren's talented, then, okay, we're basically saying, by being scared of Tyler Warren go to the cults, we're basically saying we don't believe in Anthony Richardson, right? And I actually think Anthony Richardson could totally rebound. I think that, like, you know, I think Anthony Richardson, like, could absolutely become a great player,

but we're afraid of it. But if you follow our own logic, then Anthony Richardson would get replaced and maybe the coaching staff would get replaced, whereas this Bears situation of what we just described at Loveland is pretty set for the next two or three years. It's pretty set in that situation.

The Colts, in theory, could be more fluid, but Tyler Warren's going to be there. Yeah, like, could the Colts be terrible this year, have a top three pick, get a great quarterback, turn everything around, and Tyler Warren takes off, yes. But I still think that knowing that, if you believe in Caleb and you believe in Ben Johnson,

I'm just betting on an offense that I think is going to be good for a decade that I feel like I know right now. Indianapolis, you have no idea. Also, like three years down the line, DJ Moore might be gone. Digi Moore might be gone in three weeks, really. One of Roma Dunzee or Luther Burden might not have panned out. And then you've got Caleb Williams hopefully ascending into, you know, or obviously hopefully just developing at all.

But like if he ends up being like a top 10 type quarterback down the line, now you're really talking about like a top tier tight end that you have for the next 10 years, especially in Dynasty. So I don't know. These are the decisions that make dynasty so fun for me. It's just like you have to kind of weigh all the different variables, short-term, long-term position, like, you know, situation

and how much is the coach entrenched? All that stuff is such like a big deal with all these guys. So, yeah. While we're here, so we have, I wanted to lump two guys together. We have a mecca, Buka from Ohio State, who ended up going to the Tampa Bay Buc. because we have him 12th, and we have Matthew Golden,

who, you know, from Texas and Houston before that, he went to the Packers. And there are similar-ish situations where they're both guys that, like, I mean, if one of these guys got into Dallas, you'd be like, oh, they'd be starting, literally number two behind C.D. Lamb, just vacuuming up targets like Jordan Addison

behind Justin Jefferson or like Calvin Ridley did behind Julio Jones a few years ago. But then Abuka goes to the box where you're like, damn, they got Mike Evans, they got Godwin, whatever he was back from his injury. They got McMillan. You got Golden and Green Bay, where they have Jaden Reed and, you know,

Dantavian Ix and the two tight ends and everyone. Like, D.K., who are you more excited about? I think long term, we could be like, oh, these are enoughful players, but short term, who do you think is actually on the field more this season, Abuka or Matthew Golden? Who, probably golden. Dude, here's my deal.

I just, like, get so frustrated at having the Packers receivers on my team. It's just, like, so hard to predict who's going to be the guy in any given game, and you have the coach literally saying he makes him want to puke when he talks about a number one receiver. That is just a huge red flag for me. And that's just, you know, that's ignoring how good you think Matthew Golden is.

Like this is just the way the team operates. That makes me very nervous. And, you know, like, Jaden Reed is really good. I think he's a really exciting player. It feels like every time he touches the football, something good happens. And he's like playing whatever it is, 70% of the snaps or I don't know what exactly it is. He's not playing in two receiver stats.

I don't know what Golden's going to do. I'm guessing Golden will be one of the two receivers that plays most of the time. But I don't know. There's just so many mouths to feed in that offense. And they'd love to spread it out. They love to kind of rotate their guys. It's like, oh, God, I just don't want any part of this at all. I don't know.

You know what I mean? I think if you want to win now, I think if you want immediate returns, Golden feels like perhaps a better bet because I think the competition is less steep. All these package receivers are super frustrating. Maybe Matthew Golden just steps in is better than all of them, and then he's the guy who's on the field the most. but if you're like long term, you're a team that's rebuilding

in dynasty. Emeka Abuka feels like a more sure bet to be a reliable pro. It might take a few years. Godwin is hurt. He's turning, I think he's around 30 years old. Mike Evans is 32, 33. Like, it does feel like in two, three years

they have set up Abuka to be the heir apparent to those guys. So it's like, I trust that long term more, but it's like, if you need to got to pop off this year, Golden's probably more likely to have a thousand yards this year. And yeah. And to D.K.'s point about the Packers thing being frustrated, to me there's a similarity between DK, you get really frustrated by Matt LaFleur,

for fantasy purposes. They win a lot of football games, but then it's unpredictable who's going to get the ball. That's kind of the point. Like they want to, like Sean Payton, Matt LaFleur, the way they construct offense is they don't want to know where the ball's going. The idea is that, you know, the puck can go anywhere. And then there's another style of offense, like, you know, that season Cooper Cup won the Triple Crown. Cooper Cup is 191 targets And no one else has 91 targets

And it's like instead of never knowing what's go It's gonna go to this guy But you don't know how we're gonna get it to him And it's like Cup, Devante Adams, Justin Jefferson Like those kind of offense And fundamentally there is something to be said Of you're never like there's just You're never gonna know when to play the guy

And does that bother you or not? And if that kind of is if you're one of those people Like where it annoys you That you just have to do this fucking start sitting every week. Yeah move Matthew Golden down I think that's a super fair point because it's not Matt LaFleur is not getting fired in the next three seasons. Yeah.

You remember a couple years ago? I think it was two years ago. The Broncos, and I want to say this was maybe it was Sean Payton's first pick, but they took Marvin Mims. And then how's that gone? Trade it up for him. Didn't play. Yeah.

How's that gone? That was the second round, right? Yeah. He had more touchdowns in December or the last three weeks of season than he did the rest of his curriculum. Maybe I'm talking myself out of R.J. Harvey now. I don't know. Sean Payton

Sean Payton's been the main of my existence Why am I excited about RJ Harvey again? I can't I don't know what to do I don't know what to do with this 13th we have Jackson Dart The quarterback at Ole Miss for the Giants I'm just gonna lump him And we also have Scada Bow

Cam Scataboo my beloved Ajax Is it Scadaboo or Scadabo? I say it wrong every time It's definitely Scataboo He's on your team now so you better start getting right I gotta start getting right Scadaboo Dart at 13

I feel like we're on the same page It's like I don't know if any of us individually believe in Jackson Dart but he's a first-round quarterback and he can run. So it's like you kind of got to take him even if he might not play this season at all. Right? I feel like I'm being forced to draft all these quarterbacks, but yes. Yeah, no, that's the thing.

It's kind of like, you know, it's our joke of the fiduciary duty. Yeah. Like you have a fiduciary duty? My shareholders expect this of me. If I'm on the clock, am I taking him? Absolutely fucking not. But yeah. Second.

I'll trade my pick for a veteran quarterback. I'd rather do anything, but I will tell people I'll take him. It's waiting for a blackout. period so you don't have to take checks and tart. Yeah. And then Scataboo is the opposite where it's like, I don't know if I should take him, but my God, I want to take him. Yeah. Yeah, this is the range. So we're now

in like the middle of the second round. And this is the range where famous like the famous thing in dynasty circles is when you get into this range where you're taking day three running backs who could have a ton of volume and you're excited about or day two receivers

who have a much better hit rate. And even though it's way more exciting to take like the Byshal Tutin from the Jags. We've got ranked right in the spot. Oh, yeah. Cam Scataboo from the Giants. Oh, I could totally see these guys end up being the number one running back on their team. It's going to be amazing.

And then they get a little bit of action. And then they just get replaced the next year by a second round running back. You know what I mean? Like this is Tyrone Tracy. He's literally, this is what's happening to Tyrone Tracy. So I don't know. This is like a risky spot when it comes to Dynasty drafts. Like, do you just take the guy that's probably.

going to end up being in, have a longer career in one of the day two receivers, or do you kind of go and shoot for the moon with one of these day three running backs? That's, that is like what's always kind of difficult in this area. Do you want to know the deep, dark, horrible truth and take Jaden Higgins from Arizona State

which basically was a first round pick? Or do you want to take scam fucking scataboo? Sock some dingers. Sock some dingers. Yeah. And Tudin's the same way to me. Tudin's also just a perfect dingers pick. It's like,

Jags. Kind of cool now. Lawrence, Travis Hunter, Brian Thomas, want to go fast. He's fast. Fast guy.

I heard someone called him Devon A-chan once and it's like, oh, yep, cool. I'm in. I'm not thinking with my head.

So, ETN just like doesn't move the needle at all, honey. Like, the ETN is the most disappointing, never did anything, like middle of the road.

The new coaching staff has no allegiance to him. He's in the last year of his deal. Like, I feel like it could be week four in Tutin is just the number one of this team. Yeah. But again,

but again, in 2026, 2027 when they draft that second round running back here, shit out of luck. E.TN really is to me just a decade later C.J. Spiller.

We tried to move every year. Honestly, it's an interesting comp. I'm trying to remember C.J. Spiller on. First round, Clemson running back. I mean, I remember of him, but I can't like picture one of his plays. Like, more of a freak athlete. Like, more twitchy and explosive

and, like, exciting in that way. Get more wiggle. Yeah. Yeah, I just, ETS. I mean, to be fair, the foot injury. I mean, he missed his entire rookie season, Urban Meyer, all that.

It was funny. Someone asked him about Urban Meyer. He's like, yeah, I missed all that. Thank God. But I don't know. I'll be curious where E. I don't know if he's going to be on the Jags this season.

I would be surprised if E.T.m was on the Jags next season. And that's why I think Tutin's going to be really fun. And they also got LeQuinn Allen, who's like incredible pass catcher. So I think that Tootin and him actually kind of paired well together. So Tudon's really fun. But he's exactly where we're talking about. Tutton and Scataboo are this the classic two,

like really fun guys. who you're kind of way focusing on the potential best case scenario and the worst case doesn't even come across your mind. Yeah. So, but in this area, then you also have Jaden Higgins from the Texans who got, who was an early second rounder. That's usually a really good sign. And Trey Harris from the Chargers is another second rounder. You have Jack Bash, a third round, I believe. Or was he?

No, he got into the second round, didn't he? Yeah. That's just a vibes pick. So you got like a good vibes fantasy football pick. Yeah. You've got three second round receivers here. Now you're getting into guys who are going to be like the number two, number three on a team. Do you believe in the offense?

Who's going to pop? And these all become kind of like dart throws. Higgins and Harris are both attached to young, good quarterbacks with big arms. So that's always like a big plus. That's the thing at the end of the day. I think we all have Higgins above Tut and Scataboo, not because Higgins is cooler, but because he plays with C.J. Stroud. And you should probably just take a guy that was almost a first-run pick that plays with C.J. Stroud.

even though other parts of your body what's Gadaboo. And then yeah, Trey Harris, I'm torn. I don't think I like him as much as other people. But yeah, I think, so that's our top 20. And then I kind of want to mention, unless you guys have anything else in those guys.

I want to mention, 21, we have Tyler Shuck. Yeah. From Louisville, which did you see that Derek Carr, at his church, went off about his shoulder and kind of shit talk to the media? Yeah, he was like, Get is a guest pastor or something?

What was he doing? Yeah, he gave, I don't know if a servant. A servant. He went, he was on stage and he was talking to his church. And again, so a couple weeks ago there's a story that his shoulder, you know, he might not be ready to play this season. And there was confusion about it. And then he basically was like, my shoulder is actually hurt despite what ESPN

says. And then he like took a shot at Diana Rossini. And he just like, it was totally like a very much like a, you know, he, I think, Derek Carr hates the media. Like, he just hates the media. Yeah. But the irony that he's hurt and now so they drafted Tyler Shuck, who's just a very similar Derek Carr guy, he's always hurt.

It's just very funny to me. That's all. Yeah, he, uh, Austin sent me another different clip. You know, we were passing around the, uh, the clip of Tyler Shuck doing the underhand in the face of pressure, just getting rid of the ball as quickly as possible. Austin sent me a different one, almost exactly the same where you just hooked it out of bounds, like, like an underhand. It's just so hilarious that this is the guy they got to,

to replace character. Yeah, he, it's just so perfect for me. If I had also broken my collarbone or leg every season for like four years in a row, I would also throw me to football. But that's not what you want at quarterback. So I got to, I know I keep talking about how old Tyler Shuck is. I've talked about his same class as Trevor Lawrence. He was like friends in high school with, then Brock Purdy.

He's older than Brock Purdy. He's old than Brock Pardt. So long that Brock Pry went from Mr. Irrelevant to now get a quarter of a billion dollar contract and Shuck hasn't played in the NFL yet. But there's one that I learned today that blew my mind. And I'm going to, wait, I'm going to double check. that this is correct right now. But, yes, that isn't true.

Tyler Shuck went to high school with Cody Bellinger. Cody Bellinger was rookie of the year in baseball in 2017. Oh my God. Tyler Shuck went to high school with Cody Beliger. And were they in the same class

or they just were at the same high school at the same time? Let me, let me, let me see. Because if it's a freshman senior thing, I feel like that's kind of cooking the books to make this comparison work. All right, but I know, but that was 2017 was eight years ago.

Cody Bell. Tyler Shucks, Tyler Shuck's father was in the Civil War. That's how old he was. Tyler Shuck's father is Pop Warner. Okay, it is cooking the books. Yeah, Bellinger graduated in 2013. But still.

It's still fun. They're overlapped. Still allow it. Yeah. And look, with the NL rookie of the year from nine years ago. Yeah, I mean, Bellinger's been in the MLB for a long time.

His son is third. A long time. I have a question. for you guys. And this is probably, I feel like I already know the answer to this. Push comes to shove. And this is a fiduciary responsibility type discussion because I think you have to rank Shuck a little bit higher than Jalen Milrow.

Just because he has a much better chance of starting sooner, I think. But is there any world in which you're, Jalen Milrow and Tyler Shuck are both there and you're not taking Jailen Milro? It's, Shuck is like going to play at some point. I know. I'm pretty confident Tyler Shuck will play quarterback, which I can't say about Milgram.

You could start year one. And Milrow's like, you probably have to sit on it for two years. But like, yeah. No one's fantasy in fantasy football is to play Tyler Shuck in your lineup. Jalen Milrow is kind of why fantasy football is invented. So.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting. I think Jalen Milrow is one of the more interesting picks in like that second third round turn area because obviously his upside is through the roof. I remember the, exact same sort of discussions we had when Jalen Hertz was taken in the second round for the Eagles. That was when Carson Wentz was the starter.

There was like, it didn't look like there was any chance he was going to be a starter anytime soon. And people were still taking him in the second round. Well, that's the difference is Hertz got taken with like a Tyler Shuck-esque draft slot. Also, Hertz was much more productive in college in terms of a passer. But I don't know. It's still, it's just, yeah. I think he's which one of the more interesting picks is like you have to kind of burn that second round pick and really hope it works out. but the upside could be,

it's like a lottery ticket. It could be like through the roof. It is a scratch off. Yeah. Any other players you want to shout out while we're here. I think the other discussion or decision that's going to be hard for people is Terrence Ferguson and the Rams, Elijah Oroyo for the Seahawks and Harold Fandon for the Browns.

Those three tight ends are all kind of taken in a similar area. Obviously, Fanon went in the third. The other two guys went in the second. But I don't know. I just think those three guys have the potential to end up being top 10 tight ends down maybe two or three years down the line. But who do you feel the best about it? They're all three of them, Hyfitts.

The A word. They're all athletic. Well, to me, the answer is easy. One of them was plucked by Sean McVeigh. And I want that guy. Terrence Ferguson going from Oregon to the Rams. Sean McVeigh has been so thirsty for a tight end for like four years now. He compared him to Travis Kelsey.

Dude. which is something we usually do and then coaches make fun of people. I'm like, don't do that, dude. Don't do it. But no, it's, and McVeigh, it's needed a tight end for so long, like the fact that Tyler Higby came back

and they were so Thursday. Like, he just, they so need to replace Tyler Higby in this offense. I have no idea if Ferguson does anything this year. Oh, no, what's going on? Craig dropped his ring. Craig, I don't know why. Oh, I dropped this.

I'm playing with this stupid thing and I dropped it. I always, D.K always noticed it. I dropped my wedding ring and then I look up and then D.K.'s staring at me. It's like the clang, like the really, distinctive clang from Lord of the Rings. Are you fuddling with, do you follow with your ring during the show, Craig?

I fiddle with it all the time. I have this stupid Snoopy thing on my desk. I was fuddling it and I just dropped it. And so I dropped it. It was one of you guys noticed was right when Craig dropped his ring. It's such a loud like I always try to pretend nothing happened like I'm a kid in class.

And it's so loud clanging. Wait, that was me, wait, can you hear, wait, can you hear this? It was like, it's because we're professionals. I shake my head at Craig every time he drops it. Like a discerting teacher. Craig, anything to share with the class?

Nope. He's being a distraction at the back. Craig, do you have enough for the whole class? No eating. Did you have enough pretzels for the whole class? Oh, man. The other guys, the other guys real quick, before we finish up, Jalen, Noel, and Kyle Williams. Kyle Williams, I'm really thinking about.

These are interesting players in the second, third round area, early third, second. late second. The lack of competition. That's the end of that top, that third tier to me. I don't know where the third tier ended or second tier or whatever, but I agree.

Fanon, because he's really, I mean, the most tight end yards ever in the FBS, which is just at some point you have my attention. Ferguson, because Sean McVeigh was like,

that's my guy. And I'm like, that's enough for me. And then, yeah, Jaden Blue for the Cowboys wear quite that. Oh, that's another one.

Yeah, it was like a 28 guy. Dylan Samson from the Browns. Kind of like that one. Let's keep naming guys and then saying, oh, yeah, oh,

that's another one. That's another one. Devin Neil, New Orleans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jordan James on the 49ers. Oh, yeah. Another one. Christian McCaffrey with Jaylon Oils.

Sure. He has gangrene. Hellic Ayamina. Minor. Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's another one. Savion Williams.

Yeah, Mason Taylor and the Jets, Tideon. Oh, yeah. Isaac Tislah. Oh, yep. He's another one. Shador Sanders, Browns? Eh. Eh.

Man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um. So last one here And then a couple emails And we get out of here

Yeah See the Belichick video? Oh yeah What do you think? Explain it to me Explain it to me Well I've only seen a like minute clip The famous clip

Same With the girlfriend Um Who is he sitting down with What news program is this for? I didn't even I don't even know CBS CBS he did a CBS

Which is ironic because they have quite a lot going on At this moment in time Right there yeah With edited interviews Well Allegedly. Belichick is sitting down doing this interview

and the guy asks, he's just starting to ask about his relationship with Jordan and how it's been dealing with all the media going on and all the publicity it's brought. And he's basically doing

the classic Belichick like downplaying everything like I don't really pay attention to that or whatever. I'm just doing what I do. And then the interview asks, how'd you guys meet? And then it just cuts

to his girlfriend, Jordan, who's sitting off in the corner, like at a desk, like Andy Richter on the Conan O'Brien show, it just cuts her and she goes, we're not talking about that. And the interviewer's like, what?

She's there, really? It just cuts. It was like a fucking sitcom. It just cuts her and she goes, the office. Yeah, she's like, no, we're not answering that question. She's kind of like his momager,

where she's like, I don't know how to pronounce that mom, you know, but she's kind of like his manager, agent point of contact for a lot of things, which I think is one of the reasons the NFL teams were kind of like what's going on here. But then to see it in action, though,

of her just basically being Belichick's PR guy. Yeah. Which, I mean, no shade to her. Like, she's an adult. But I just, the idea that Belichick, he's been in the NFL for like 50 years. I'm kind of just surprised he doesn't know how to evade a question. That wasn't really, if I could pick everyone I know who I thought could answer questions

for themselves, it would be Bill of Belichick would be the first pick. That also, like, by not having an answer ready, that begs the question, like, how did they meet? Like, what are they hiding? I know. I wasn't interested in at all. Strike stand-up back. I totally bought.

I thought they sat next to each other on an airplane and that was a cannon. And now I want to know. Now we've got, now we've got 35 investigative reporters getting to the bottom of this. Yeah. This is why she hasn't learned from the school of Belchick. Don't answer, don't do that.

Just say on to Cincinnati. Well, she kind of tried, but like, I don't know, we met through a friend. Oh, okay. Great.

We're not answering that question. What does that mean? we met at a cult gathering. Like, what are they hiding? And also, you know, CBS, you know, because I know they're having some issues over there at the moment. They should have asked how much, you know, because sometimes you got to butter up an athlete

to get them to ask a different, you know, answer a different question than the one you were kind of thinking about because you can't just ask. So what's with that photo of you on Instagram where you just put her up in the air, like an airplane? Which he did ask for your child. Yeah, so what is up with it, though?

Belichick had no answer. for any of that. He was just like, I just, you know, I'm just, I just live my life. And they were like, okay. How did they get him to do this interview? I know. I don't. Why do an interview if this is what you're going to do? He said, like, I'm on the social media platforms, but I, I don't follow. Man, I just want to show these photos to Belichick from 12 years ago when he was talking about, like, I'm not on like face, snap face or whatever. Behind every great man. He's a 28-year-old model running the show. At a desk.

Yeah, we're not, we're not answering that. You're not answering the question of how you met? Okay. The only question you're supposed to ask like The most like innocuous,

easy answer of all times. It's like one of those like white, it's like quite truly, literally small talk. They literally were, they treated her like the White Lotus party when she's like,

how'd you guys meet? And it's like, he's like, oh, this is the one that like turned in the story? Oh, wow. Okay. What are you?

We met at a Scientology meeting. What are you just? I don't know. We met at a party. We met through a friend. Just say anything. I thought they met on a plane. That was the story.

Oh, was it? Yeah. It's like, what is, okay. All right. Other, anything else on that? All right.

We got a bunch of people emailed this as a story. This is from the San Antonio Express News. Shout out. The headline is, funeral home mogul, Dick Tips, takes on San Antonio HOA over billboard removal

Dick Tips I think you figured out the story The name that you can trust in burying your loved ones Dick Tips They took his billboard down Nothing but the tip What's this catchphrase?

Just the tip? Just the tip? Everything but the tip is buried He didn't want to go with Richard in his defense he's like 80 so I think back in his day you know the word they used was Peter and then you know times just caught up to him no they always said Dick did they well they've been saying for quite a long time how did the guy named Dick Nixon get elected president if that meant Peters at the time because people like an alpha

people like a man who's named his dick that's all yeah actually like if you are powerful enough, the name Dick becomes actually an advantage. Right. It's like you're immediately just picturing something phallic. A source of palis. A source of virility. President penis. There's like 0.1% of the population can actually use the name Dick to their advantage. Everyone else is a fit is.

It is a force multiplier. Let me tell you. If you can pull off being named. name Dick Tips? You could do anything. Truly. The world is your oyster. It's honestly probably why he's a mogul is because when he was probably 21 years old,

he graduates college and he's going to start his own business. And they're like, you want to go by Richard Tips? And he goes, no. Dick. And that's why he's a mogul. He runs a funeral home. Oh, my God. I want to point out that Austin sent us an AI overview, which means automatically it's

wrong about. when Dick, the name, came into existence or whatever. I don't know if this accounts for my father's life experience, but he went by Dickie when he was a kid and he hated it because he was like, you know what they call a dick, right? Like, why are you calling me Dickie? And he was born in the 50s. So I think this AI overview thing, which says the 70s, is incorrect.

Shocker. Wikipedia says that the term came to be associated with the people. through usage by men in the military in the 1880s. There we go. I'm going to go with that one. I like that Google Gemini couldn't read Wikipedia. That makes me really dubious about all these products. It's impressively incorrect.

It's actually hard. It's hard to be this wrong. It's just like it gives you a random answer that it finds. I'll never get over just like three weeks ago when you were like, what was the Chili Peppers song? Under the Bridge was on California Cation. And you were like mad at me.

Just picked out some random Spotify playlist for you. No, it's not. And I just Googled it and it came up. And I'm like, of course it could get that right. What songs are in an album. And it's just there. Well, yeah. Jesus.

All right. Honestly, wait. It's a bubble. Email is at Ringer Fancy Football Gmail.com. Other things Google Gemini's gotten wrong. Steve Correll. Hi, it's a bubble. You know what?

I'm going to just say it. Steve Grohl's voice in that movie. movie bothered me. It just felt so much like he was acting, you know? It's a lot. You like that.

When he walks in that AA meeting in the beginning, he's on the phone, and I'm like, the voice is kind of what you're noticing. Junk bonds, sub-mortgage bonds.

I don't know. I don't know. Just stuck normally. And I feel like he's because he's always trying to not be Michael Scott, so he's doing other things. It's tough.

Because they'll just give him a hair piece in any movie just so it doesn't look like Michael Scott. anything they can. In that movie Fox Catcher, he had like the prosthetic nose on, like anything. And I know that was based off a real guy. They have to physically transform him in some way. So he's not Michael Scott.

Oh my God. All right. We should get that character. How would that character say Dick Tips, Craig? Dick Tips. All right. Dick, the name Dick, it's a bubble. It's going back to Richard.

Don't name your kid's dick. It's not going to pan out. All right. We got an email. What should people say at the beginning of their emails? Craig, you were saying we should do the thing where Rosillo has people email them in

and then they're like, they like height, wait, how much they can bench. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I suggested maybe like what they had for breakfast,

something. We had a couple emails, a couple emails that were solid. One person, this was Raymond's suggestion. Right. The rest of you sucked, though.

Raymond, of the Minneapolis Miracles suggests people should give their fantasy team name. Don't mind that. I'm against it. I'm against it on principle. So this is from Shane, favorite player Walter Payton.

Okay. Says, I think people should list their all-time NFL favorite player. Easy takes no time for anyone to think about, tells you something about that person. That's good. I kind of like that. Craig from Los Angeles, Mike Williams.

Mike Williams. Mike Williams. I don't know why that's so funny to me. I just want to know who's the worst player that you fucking love. That's good. Who is the worst player that someone's favorite player? That's a good question.

Who's your guy? I think Pat McAfee. Who's your, you know, shittiest favorite player? Like my, no, no, my favorite, like the person's favorite player who's the worst favorite player? Who do you love? That's not that good.

Oh, the Steve Smith, the other Steve Smith who was on the Giants and that was like, like everyone loves that. Everyone Giants fan loves Steve Smith And Victor Cruz, but Victor Cruz is super famous Yeah, Victor Cruz is like, O'Dell Beckham stole Victor Cruz's life.

He like, he freaky Friday at his ass. But other Steve Smith was sick. Chris and Michael. Oh, yeah, the running back. Oh, the running back? Like he was actually never good at all. All right, email us this. Email us this is what I want.

Email us your favorite, your worst favorite player. That's a good one. Because this is kind of related to just like the, like, dudes, naming players. It is dudes. The first person that came to mind, Craig, that you guys probably have never even heard of this guy,

but it was sort of like the joke, the punchline when I was growing up is, and he was a Sonics guy, the last guy in the Sonic, Steve Schephler, just this awkward white guy. And it's like one of those players was like, how is this guy in the NBA?

I don't understand this. There's no way this makes any sense, but he's probably the best player that ever came from his hometown, whatever. But we used to always like make fun of him, but like he was obviously in the NBA. So it was like very impressive. Scalobrini.

Dude, email us that. Email us your worst favorite players. I think, yeah, the other, Steve Smith is a good example. The picture right here, I'm going to have said to you, the picture of Steve Schaeffler.

Craig, do you have any, I will take basketball players too. Craig, who's your worst favorite player ever? Moe Spates. I used to love most fates. Most Spates.

He's awesome. That's good. He was like pretty actively bad, but I loved Mo Spates. Loved what he brought to the team. Kais says Jordan Farmer. Oh, yeah, Farmer. Oh, Farmer, sorry.

UCLA. Dude, you know what it is for the, You know who the Knicks answer is? The Knicks answer is Landry Fields. And that's why it's so impressive that Tim Salome has that photo of him in Grand Central with Landry Fields. It's like, that's how I know he's a real Knicks fan because that is like Knicks fans of my generation's answer is Landry Fields.

Yeah. Like, you can't make that up. Jake Bobo. Jake Bobo. Okay, a couple other emails here. Last, last one. This is from Matt. Mattie.

I miss the crucial thing. So I mentioned that that guy Desmond Watson, the buck signed from the University of Florida who's 464 pounds. Oh, yeah, yeah. I forgot that the, he was an undrafted free agent.

I forgot the buck's seventh round pick was Tess Johnson. Oh, my God. Under and 54 pounds. 154 pounds. 154 pound receiver. Oh, that's great. Desmond Watson's 4164.

There was a 310 pound difference between two players the bucks acquired consecutive. I want, the bucks need to do hard knocks just so we can have them do like Robin Big spin-off shows. Hell yeah. I would love that. Dude, Aaron Donald's playing weight was 280. The difference between these two people is 3.10. Do you think they want, what's his name Desmond Watson?

Desmond, yeah, let me double. Yes, Desmond Watson. Do you think they're going to tell them like, hey, 464 is a lot. It's too much. It's like the knocked-up thing. Go home, get on a scale. We're not telling you to lose weight. Look at the number and then weigh not that much.

It's too much. That's just a little much. A little much. All right. I think that's all we got for today. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Troy. Thank you, Austin. Thank you for listening. Follow, subscribe, whatever. We are not missing any time. We're going to have shows all summer, all year.

They were literally not going to be a week. where we don't have shows. Email us or your fancy football at Gmail.com for your worst favorite player ever. Email us other things you think people should eat. I think maybe that should just be it. Maybe that is the answer for the email. Everybody should always send their worst favorite player.

That's not bad. That's pretty good. Yeah. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you, Nate Dogg. Nice. We were talking before the show started about how I can't get Nate Dog out of my head. And I don't know why.

I've been singing, I Got Love. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. Well, it's been too long since he's saying on the show. Oh, my homies who are rolling with me. You got that beautiful, deep, velvety voice. R.

IP. But, yeah, we were, go ahead. No, the till I collapse with date dog, I think, is one of the most iconic. But we were talking about, because Nate Dogg is not alive anymore. And we were like, oh, when did he die? And I was like, I was like 15 years ago. And D. D.K. was like, no way.

And we went, look. And it doesn't feel like it's been that long. He died in 2011. And the only reason why I, remember that specifically is so he died in 2011 which i was a junior in high school and at our junior prom um you know kids are like sneaking in alcohol drinking on the bus doing that whole thing what what this is a comedy podcast okay don't come after me but yeah so it's like kids are like sneaking in flas and like plastic water bottles of vodka stuff like that one guy got super drunk and got on

stage and just yelled Nate dog rest in peace motherfucker and like took the mic from the DJ. And then after that, we everybody got like checked and breathalized after getting off the bus for dances because of that guy. He ruined it for everyone. Yeah.

So we had to get really creative like sneaking in alcohol after that because that guy just, he missed Nate Dog that much, which I respect. What were your methods? To sneak alcohol in? Well, if the dance was on campus,

we would like, you would like plant it beforehand like the gun and the god, like the God, like in the tank and the toilet. Freshman year of college, I had a flask tie. So I would, like, it was a tie that you could fill up with like alcohol. Oh, that's good. And then like, and the tail of the tie was like a camel neck,

like a camelback. Camelback, yeah. Also like they had bra versions of that too. Yeah, I was going to say it's a lot easier to pat down the men. A lot of the girls would often smuggle stuff in because they could kind of get away with it in ways that men could not. Oh, what? They don't honestly kind of work.

Oh, you have no response to that. D.K. Just silenced to that. I was, I'm not touching that. I'm not, I'm not going there. Quite literally.

That's actually exactly what he was saying. That's why I worked. D.K., you would have been the chaperone or the teacher at the fucking high school and be like, you know what? You can just head right on in there, ma'am. I tried. Yes. Right this way.

Enjoy the dance. The giff of the guy patting down people at the, at the game. That's me. I'm like, I'm not, you know. This is not worth

not getting paid for this. Right. I'm a volunteer. He's like that photo of me from Chicago with the hand. Oh, yeah. Oh,

that's the best. If it's was being such a gentleman, but then Craig was like pointing and laughing. Someone took a photo like some of the. Someone, it was Austin. Yeah, yeah.

But I pose, you know, we did the photos after the live show. We posed with someone, and I had my hands so, like, from straight on, it looked like our hands around, but then someone caught the side angle, and my hand was so. Hovering. I did the, who's that football coach that had that? Was it Mac, why I'm I forget, Texas, UNC, Mac?

Mac Brown? Yeah, Mac Brown has that photo where I think he's like, hands are, like, levitating. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the savvy move. It's the savvy move. The fit, like the bundle up your fist, so you don't really have to grab anything. It's like the Obama with the fist.

It's like Bill at the WWE event. Just staring forward. You know? There was, this is, there was a picture of Sean Payton that was circulating and it was like he was. Oh, yes. Really hugging hard and his hand was like straying down quite low on the back of a woman. It was. It was on the woman's butt.

It was. Yeah, it was on her ass. And all the comments were like, Sean, that hand placement is insane. And then I was like, I literally like sent it to you guys. and then I was like, oh, it's his wife. We're like, okay, cool. That's fine. He loves his wife.

I just still remember the top comment was Sean, that hand placement is insane. I just love the idea of D-Cat to dance. And he's like, hello, Jessica, right this way. Have a great, have a great night. Be safe. I'm not going into anyone's personal bubble. Goodbye, everyone.