The Ringer NFL Show - Brian Callahan Fired, Puka and Egbuka Hurt, and Week 7 Waivers

Episode Date: October 14, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hypertz. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Worldbeck, and we are going over waivers after week six. All the players you should pick up for your teams after week six, going into week seven. We're going to go through that. We're going through emails and going through a bunch of stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:27 But first, we're going to hit Brian Callahan, the head coach of the Tennessee Titans, has been fired by the Titans. I get it. They suck. They're kind of a joke. I have like a lot of thoughts on this, but I'm curious. What is your immediate reaction to Brian Callahan being fired?
Starting point is 00:00:40 I mean, obviously it's a bummer because turnover for a rookie quarterback is probably never going to be a good thing for Cam Ward. But at the same time- He had a lot of bad turnovers. Ha! Yes, turnovers and coaching turnover is probably never good. But, I mean, if you just watch the Titans, it was kind of the writing was on the wall. They were atrocious. So, I mean, I felt like the team just felt they needed to make a change. And it's been kind of like, there's been moments this year where people were kind of questioning,
Starting point is 00:01:10 whether like how prepared Callahan was and you know there was like that he didn't know the rules thing that happened for a couple weeks ago where they he thought the what would he say like one elbow doesn't equal two feet or something like that which was like actually directly incorrect um but you know things like that i think just kind of contributed to it but at the end of the day is like they're scoring 13 points a game and they're terrible i mean i agree with what you're saying because it's at the end of the day the titans are a joke and they're opening a new stadium in Nashville in two years. And Mike Vrable, who they fired, who's coming to town next week and was going to embarrass the shit out of them. And you can't be embarrassing because they have a lot of
Starting point is 00:01:47 tickets to sell at this new stadium in two years. You cannot be a laughing stock. And the truth is Will Levis was really embarrassing. And the pitch was Cam Ward. Give me a quarterback. Give me an offensive line. Give me a special teams coordinator. I'll fix it. And they're worse this year than they were last year. And I honestly, Craig, I think this is a true sense of the word like a, like half we have tickets to sell business. Half, we're super embarrassed that Mike Vrable's coming to kick the shit out of us. And we can't fire him. after Mike Brable embarrasses us? Yeah, I mean, it's pretty embarrassing either way.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Having an interim coach coming in to face Mike Brable is also going to suck. I think the pitch to Titans fans is that this is the low point, and now we will be, like, now you can start turn a new chapter. You're probably going to have a top three pick in the draft. Hopefully you get a good coach in the off season, and like this is the beginning of a new era with Cam Ward, and you can bring in somebody in Mina Kimes tweeted Joe Brady, who calls plays for the bills. Like, hopefully that this, like, I think what we've seen in the first six weeks is that
Starting point is 00:02:38 the Titans are a disaster, but I think Cam Ward has something. And so hopefully you can find the right pair for him in the offseason, and then Cam Ward's career can begin. Yeah, I mean, Cam Ward, you know, pro football talk had a thing this, you know, after the game, Jeffrey Simmons, the defensive tackle said that they actually had a terrible week of practice, had her in the game, and they lost this week. I just overall, though, I can't stress how bad the Titans have been. Like, they're awful. And I agree with what you're saying, Craig, where Cam Ward, obviously.
Starting point is 00:03:08 obviously they're bad, they're a terrible team, but he hasn't looked worse than like Jared Gough looked in 2016, and Jared Gough's had a perfectly great career. There's still something about Kim Ward that gives me hope that he can work out if everything around him is better. And look, big picture, six of the last eight first round,
Starting point is 00:03:23 first overall quarterbacks, their coach was fired that season, and it's because the team usually sucks. And you look, and again, the Titans were just a joke last year with Will Levis. Think for a moment, take two seconds to remember how bad the Titans were last year with Will Levis. With that said,
Starting point is 00:03:36 the Titans are worse this year. Like if you just look at this season and the idea that they're supposed to improve from the laughing stock last last last last in points per game, Tennessee's last in yards per game, Tennessee's last in first downs per game. Tennessee's the only team in the NFL under four yards per play. Tennessee is dead last and expected points added per play. And I love this super advanced stat. Touchdowns. Tennessee's dead last in touchdowns. So they have like three? Six. Six and six games. The entire team has six touchdowns and six games. And I know this is a little simplistic. Mike Vrabble, the Patriots, have 18. So the former Titans coach has three times as many touchdowns. And the other one that I think is underrated in this, Daniel Jones. The cults have 22 touchdowns this year.
Starting point is 00:04:19 That is the division rival of the Titans. That is almost four times as many touchdowns for quarterback Daniel Jones that I am sure the Titans evaluated in free agency. And they probably informed the owner. That's not worth signing this guy, Daniel Jones. He's no good. And then the cult sign them and they're like five and one. And I think that also goes into it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And I also absolutely think the emotions of Mike Vrable coming into town where the optics, whatever you want to call it, are involved. Because this is also the team that fired the GM John Robinson who traded away AJ Brown while they were in first place in the division because three days after A.J. Brown scored two touchdowns and had a buck 20 yards on the Titans. And then three days later, they fired the guy who traded away AJ Brown. So, like, if this is even the first time we've seen the Titans in the last three or four years make a really reactionary decision around a mistake that was embarrassing them when they
Starting point is 00:05:07 played them. My favorite Titan stat is that they have the most drives in the league and the least amount of red zone drives in the league. They lead the league with drives, 67, and they are dead last in red zone drives at 11. They are averaging less than two red zone drives per game. The team, I think that that is a perfect stat, Greg, and I keep thinking about even a team like the Jets, where how many times have we said the Jets have a terrible offense, but the garbage time, the Titans can't even move the ball in garbage time. Like, even when they're losing by two, three, four scores, they still can't move the ball. They get past the 20 yard line 1.8 times a game.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Think about that. Yeah. Yeah, I think overall, it felt like it was going in the wrong direction. There was no signs of improvement. Literally, the ball was going in the wrong direction. The ball constant. Again, Cam Ward just dropping the ball. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:57 At first in the early part of the season, I was like, okay, I'll give them some grace because they've been playing really, really tough defenses. But at this point, you know, they showed no really signs of improvement. I don't know if there's any, I didn't study it close enough to really know this, but like it just didn't feel like it was a super creative offense. I don't really know exactly what Brian Callahan was bringing in terms of like play calling and helping his quarterback out and things like that. But, you know, in the NFL, if you don't show improvement pretty quickly,
Starting point is 00:06:26 I think people are really apt to like just move on. There's a lot of teams that can turn it around pretty quickly and they've done that in the past. And I think owners will look at that and be like, well, you know what? I've given this long enough. this is not working. Hi Fitz, how would you rank, how would you grade the Titans on,
Starting point is 00:06:43 for a new coach coming in? Like, where do they, how do you, how would you grade them on how good of a team that you would be inheriting as a new coach? How bad is the situation? Is it an F? Is it a D plus? Is it a C? Kim Ward, does Kim Ward get you to a C?
Starting point is 00:06:57 That's a good question. I think it's probably, are you grading on a curve of your judging among, teams that are generally open? Yeah. Because it's like, obviously, if Andy Reid retired, you're like, that's the greatest opening of all time.
Starting point is 00:07:11 And I'm like ignoring stuff like that. You know, if you look at like all of the new head coach teams over the past five years, where does the 2026 Titans rank in your month? It's probably a C plus B minus. I, because it depends. It's really a rush-truck test in Campbell Ward because I think you do see quarterbacks all the time succeed. I do think the Titans, they have investments at the very least on offense and the
Starting point is 00:07:30 offensive line. I don't think it's perfect because I think you look at a, bunch of teams recently that have changed hands. Sometimes you get lucky. It's not entirely luck, but like, Jane Daniels for Washington, clearly is a special play. I don't want to diminish what the coaches have done there. But like Seattle, where you're like what Mike went down and walked into and you're
Starting point is 00:07:45 like, wow, that's a, that was a weirdly good amount of talent and first-run-based that have been invested. Tennessee, better talent than you think along the defensive line. Like, they have some harder spots that are able to fill the offensive line. But overall, it's not great. But to your point, TK, about the scheme and what they're running, there's a lot. You can go to Bill Barnwell had some good stuff on this this week of really basic stuff where, yeah, the players aren't great.
Starting point is 00:08:04 A lot of these rookie receivers aren't blocking well. but also even when you're schematically being matched up in ways that should be advantages on paper or with X's and O's where they're just outnumbering them in blockers, the guys are getting outplayed. Like there are screens where Callahan's designing up. And then Raiders, cornerbacks are just fighting, like two guys are breaking through three blockers and just tackling a guy for a screen. And that's one of those where you kind of remember that every now and then sometimes the secret
Starting point is 00:08:30 in football is coaches or experts in schemes, but not necessarily technique. and coaching. And coaching and teaching, yes. And that is one of those things. Like coaches are not necessarily experts in coaching. And I come, yeah, and I come back to,
Starting point is 00:08:43 again, Brian Callahan, and there's so much that goes into it, but also his background was Peyton Manning's Broncos into Matt Stafford at 28 to 31 in the Lions into Joe Burrow. And admittedly,
Starting point is 00:08:55 Joe Burrow was the number one pick and young, but also Burroughs great. And is Joe Burrow? How do you attribute, yeah, how do you attribute what he was bringing? into the equation is essentially what you're saying. Like, you know, he's been with his really good quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:09:07 I think he came in as a pretty strong unknown. And again, this is kind of what I was saying. It's like, it just feels pretty clear. This wasn't working. Maybe he'll get another chance at, well, he might not get another chance at head coach. But maybe he'll go back to being a coordinator some point. But, I mean, it was just pretty clear that the team wasn't responding to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And, you know, they just needed to go in and get some new leadership going because I think the vibes were just absolutely atrocious at this point. So you also know it was a reactionary decision from ownership. And that is ultimately where I want to place it at the feet is the Titans ownership has just been scrambling for years. And like firing Vrable was a mistake. And I don't have a lot of confidence in that. And I do think it's, this is blatantly a PR thing.
Starting point is 00:09:50 And you know that because they didn't even have an interim coach announced when they put it out. They just kind of were like, we can't have Callahan lose to Vrable. That's embarrassing. I'm like, that's not a good place to be coming from. Callahan also lost the confidence of the fan base. Like the fan base was out. Okay, so otherwise, going forward, we can get into it. So how much money do you think they pay Bill Belichick?
Starting point is 00:10:08 What is Jordan Hudson going to do on Broadway, Nashville? And they hire when they hire him. They'll pay the $1 million buyout. I know. I'll be the cheapest hire in the NFL, $1 million. Easy money. It's just, Gordon Hudson makes that in a weekend. If you were, you remember how the bit was if you were a GM, you would simply hire Bill Belichick.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Do you still feel that you would do that? I admit. Or have you lost confidence? He seems old. He's too old. It's kind of like Pete Carroll and the Raiders. Like, I kind of keep waiting for Kamala Harris to take over the Raiders. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like at some level, it's just kind of like, come on. Pete's the most energetic coach in the NFL right now, I feel like. Yeah, he's all hopped up on not new. He is old. He's old. Yeah. Titans can't do worse.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I mean, they're already last in every category. So, if anything, Belich could have bottom four offense that go up, you know? I mean, it's obviously a long season, but I mean, the Titans could have the number one pick in the draft again. I have been thinking that. I agree. It is funny to think that. When's the last time the team had back-to-back number one picks? It's happened more than you think.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I think it didn't used to happen, but then I think the Jags and the Browns have done that recently? Or the Panthers? Did the Jags go Trevor Lawrence and then Trayvon Walker? Oh, now I feel like my memory is failing me. This just happened recently, though. Wait, I'm not. The Jags did it? The Jags did it, Lawrence and then Trayvon Walker, because that was the Urban Meyer year.
Starting point is 00:11:34 And then the Browns also did it with Miles Garrett and Baker and Mayfield. So my knowledge before that, it was quite rare. The 2017-18 Browns. Sorry, did you just say that? I was reading this. 1999-2000 Browns, 94-95 Bengals. I mean, the Jets are winless, so technically they have the number one pick right now. But they'll be, Titans are going to be right there in it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 I have a quick question before I move on here. Because, look, this is, he, Bright-Callon was hired a sense. because he's an offensive mind. He'd helped mold quarterbacks in the past and blah, blah, blah. And now it feels like the culture and, you know, whatever. That whole, like, team-building aspect of it is really where everything kind of fell apart. Do you think they should hire some offensive guru or do you another different one? Or do you think they should go like culture coach, hire Bill Belichick, whatever, you know, where do you lean on this?
Starting point is 00:12:23 I feel like we've learned that the best case scenario is you get Andy Reid, you get Ben Johnson. You get the play caller who can, you get the, you get the, Kyle Shannon, you get the Sean McPay. Obviously, you want the combo of everything. But like, you should get a head coach you can call plays, right? I think. I, my very unsexy answer is it depends. Like, I, this isn't just a football thing. This is every organization. This is just people. People swing back and forth and want the opposite of the leadership that just is perceived to have failed them. And so whether that is in football, that's discipline, which when it works is cool and when it doesn't work, the guy's an asshole,
Starting point is 00:13:00 and then they want a players coach, and back and forth. And then the other axis is offense versus defense. And literally one of the reasons they bailed on Mike Vrable was because Amy Adams-strunk, who owns the team, was frankly upset that Matt Lafleur had done so well in Green Bay, and that Matt LaFleur was up there with like John Madden, a winning percentage, and then they get rid of Rogers,
Starting point is 00:13:19 and then they get rid of Rogers, and then Jordan Love and then still make the playoffs and the Titans, but five and 11 or whatever, and there was anger that they had let Lafleur and the idea of, why didn't we just hire Matt Lafleur as the head coach? Like that, they were upset up that they had let LaFleur. walk. Now, guess what? They hire a Brian Callahan to try to be Lafleur and guess what? Now you want a Vrable, don't you? And so the answer is, sure, have an eye for those archetypes, but when you start looking for something specifically, you just find it and everyone you talk to as opposed to just
Starting point is 00:13:44 paying attention and being like, who's actually available? Because Rable was clearly the best candidate on the market. Or along with Ben, I guess maybe not the best. Ben Johnson is also exciting. But you start with the pool of candidates. And then you, you start with the pool of candidates. And then you, you say what is actually available and who could, because there are different ways to win. But I think owners all the time laser in and I need this kind of guy and then wishcast that someone available
Starting point is 00:14:08 could be that person as opposed to just paying attention and being like, who's actually in front of me and what are their odds of being this? TK. Clint Kubiak, you nervous? I know. I mean, honestly, right now he's probably a hot name. Yeah. He will be. But I guess that's my main point.
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm a little worried the Titans are going to go and hire a defensive coach to reset the culture, blah, blah, blah, get everybody back on board. And then you're going to have Cam Ward, have three coordinators in the next four years, and it's going to be very difficult for him and whatever. But, like, you know, at the end of the day, they just need to find the right guy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I will just say, you know who it doesn't call place? Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Mike Grable. Yeah, but those guys are so hard to find. Yeah, I know. And there's a million guys that have been hired to change the culture and just are not good at it. I think we can move on after this. It's interesting because, again, the Dolphins,
Starting point is 00:15:01 I feel like Michael Daniels going to get fired soon eventually, and it's worth saying at some point, though, with the coordinator thing, I forget the exact stat, but the idea that I think every single team has swapped out its play caller offensive coordinator in the last three years, not counting like the Chiefs where Reid's doing it
Starting point is 00:15:17 or Sean Payton the Broncos, every play calling offense coordinator has swapped out. None of them have been there more in the three years to a point where it's like, haven't all the good ones have probably been sniped? Like, at this point, they don't have any experience doing it. Like how, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:29 It's like you're going to build an entire culture and run game day on top of play calling. I'm like, part of me wonders if it's just kind of been tapped and you need you to let people sit there. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, Andy Reid wasn't even a coordinator. He was a quarterback's coach. No one knows what the fuck's going to happen. Anything else on Titans coaching, anything before we go into waivers here? No.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Okay. We're going to hit Monday Night Football on Power Hour this week. So we're going to do that on Wednesday. So if you're looking for recap of the Bears game and the Bills game, then we're, we will go through that on Wednesday. But right now we're going through waivers after week six. And reminder, email us questions for Fantasy Court also for Wednesday's episode. Email us trivia questions if you want.
Starting point is 00:16:07 So, yeah, we're going to go through waivers. And again, going to go position by position. Going to give our top pick from the position. If we pick the same guy, we'll do a little trivia tiebreaker. It's not that complicated. You'll figure it has to go along. Teams that are on buy this week, Bills and Ravens. Actually, I guess they're playing tonight.
Starting point is 00:16:22 I don't know the deal. Ravens obviously need a buy as much as any team in recent memory. needs a buy. Not a huge issue for fantasy, honestly. Like just Bill's Ravens. Like I feel like weirdly for two on paper good teams. Not a massive letdown for fantasy with buy weeks, but there were a bunch of injuries.
Starting point is 00:16:39 We'll go through all that. But yeah, we'll start with running backs here. This one's probably an easy way to start. But DECAD number one running back pick after week six. Yeah. Remember last week when we were waffling between Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal? Well, it was Kamani Vidal was the one you really wanted in this one. He was the big winner this weekend.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And he's still rostered in just 27% of Yahoo leagues. He had 18 carries, 124 yards, plus three catches. You know, he played the vast majority of the snaps. He looked the best. I think, you know, early on, they were kind of switching them back and forth. It was like they were going to see who kind of got the hot hand and run with it. And it was definitely Vidal. Vidal, sorry.
Starting point is 00:17:15 So he would be my obvious clear, number one. And it sounds, now there's reporting coming out that O'Mari and Hampton might not even be ready once to four weeks of IR are over. I think he's out for longer. There's also reports that the charges are looking at acquiring a running back. Right. I think Hampton's out for longer. And that makes a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.
Starting point is 00:17:36 One, because rushing him back makes no sense. Vidal. I can't say his name. Vidal. Honestly, he doesn't listen to the show. Like, it's just say whatever. We don't, you know, I'll try to get it right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You know, it's okay. Kamani. But yeah, Kamani, Vidal, V-I-D-A-L, if you have spell it to find him. If he's available, he's definitely the guy, 120 yards. And also, the important part, they were winning, you know, he got a lot of carries and the charges won, but the flips, and I know they had to come back. But I think he's, the fact that he's getting the starts and the carries,
Starting point is 00:18:05 I also think if the charges are losing by a lot, he's the past catching guy. I do think that he is, quote, unquote, game script proof. I don't think it's necessarily like a Woody Marks for the Texans, where if the Texans are winning, Nick Chub will just get the ball. I think Vidal will get the ball quite a bit. Maybe a hot hand thing, but I think he's going to be the guy. It sucks that to this day, we cannot figure out through any reporting who will be getting the football in a game a week before it happens.
Starting point is 00:18:32 We actively hide it. It's worth it's like Shanahan when McCaffrey got hurt and Jordan Mason, they were like, when did you find out? And he said Friday and they flipped out that they like they don't want to tell people. I overthought that Vidal didn't make the opening day rostered practice squad and Haskins was third string. And I overthought that because Vidal just looks better as a player. and I remember sometimes when you have Hampton and Najee that they're kind of just thinking about special teams and stuff and they're like not actually counting about your running back skill
Starting point is 00:18:57 for that third string spot and I wish I had remembered that. Down the first two guys, it's just a running back thing again. It's almost like a reset. There was also reporting from a couple different sources that it was going to be Haskins. That's the next fan up. It was supposed to be Haskins starting and they didn't start Vidalden. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I'm like, it's funny that everybody had decided it was Haskins and of course it was. And maybe it'll probably end up being Haskins next week. But the same thing happened in Arizona this week. Adam Schepter reported that Bam Knight would start the game and he didn't. Michael Carter played the whole first, started the whole first series. It's just funny. That happened last year with Remandre.
Starting point is 00:19:36 There was a game where Gerard Mayo said, I forget who was who, but he basically said like Ramandre would start and then he didn't or I forget who it was. Yeah, yeah. It happens all the time. Coach is live about this shit. It's weird. We try. They love.
Starting point is 00:19:48 or just being wrong. It's nice to know that even Adam Schefter is just dead wrong. Yeah. By the way, speaking of Brian Callahan, Schaefter was on with Pat McAfee today. And Schefter is right like 98% of the time. So like don't take this like I'm slandering him. But he was at, I think one hour before the firing happened,
Starting point is 00:20:07 he was like, I'm not hearing anything about this. If I to say right now, I think he's safe for the time being or whatever. And then like one hour later he was fired. It's just like, man. He also reported that the Steelers are looking for, Widers here. They had one.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Oh, I could tell you right now who it's going to be. Jacobi Myers? Oh, maybe. That's interesting. Who did you think I was? Alan Lazzard. He's not even playing for the jazz. That would suck.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I don't want it. Well, it's because you don't, well, here's the deal. What do the Steelers want? They're running all these, blockers. You were just saying on the Sunday ship, Blockers.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Lazzard is huge. Yeah. A bunch of tiny guys. Already knows what, already knows everything Rogers needs to do, where to be him. You don't have to train them up to play with Rogers. He knows probably how to play with Rogers.
Starting point is 00:20:46 he knows probably how to play with Rogers better than anyone on the roster. He's just huge. He's not that good. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter? He's the biggest receiver. He's the biggest. I want the guys who are good.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You want something sexy. How do you know he's not good? He's been playing with Justin Fields. He's not good. Alan Lazard, it's over for Alan. He was, he looked fine with Rogers last year. I'd rather have Jacob Myers. Craig, unfortunately, I think Haifitz might be on to something here.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Oh, I don't think he's incorrect that Lazard is, I mean, probably the top candidates. I'm just saying I would rather have Jacobi Myers. I think Luzard's like one of those little fish Romora that swim underneath the shark.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I don't think he's going to look good with anybody except Aaron Rogers. But he knows how to do this one thing where he eats the meat between the meat
Starting point is 00:21:28 between the teeth and he's good at that. So he can hang out with Rogers. He's like the guy who stands by in Rogers is a movie villain
Starting point is 00:21:34 in the thing. Sympiotic relationship. I have higher hopes. I wanted to get somebody better. Lazar would be fine. Anyway, let's do the Vidal
Starting point is 00:21:42 showdown time. Tommani Vidal Showdown time. Gong, gone. It is the, oh yeah, okay, right, I have to do my thing. It is the Kamani Vidal showdown time. This is actually a pretty good one. Like, Vidal is important and we'll be starting probably for a month unless the chargers require somebody.
Starting point is 00:22:06 We were talking a lot about nicknames and cities, and you started talking about bridges. And Brian emailed him. Brian. Bebonne. Brian. He said Portland's Bridge City. And we're like, Pittsburgh is more bridges.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So Brian said, It's yeah, they say it's bridge city, but no one uses it kind of deal, I think. Well, that's all of who they are. I have emails about that too. Brian said, how many bridges are in Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh. Okay. Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Never been there? Well, the point B has the most bridges in the world, if any city is the claim. Any city in the world? In the world. Oh, Jesus. Okay. I know there's three rivers. At least.
Starting point is 00:22:48 So it's probably least like three bridges. at least three. Probably, no, probably six. Let's double it. Yeah. Minimum six. Okay. I have my answer.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You guys ready? Same. Sure. Three, two, one. Ninety- I said 90. What did you say, D.K.? Fuck, I said 200.
Starting point is 00:23:09 The answer is... I said 42. Says a lot. The answer is 446. Wow. Just goes to show. The dumbest answer usually is the best answer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Is a lot of bridges. 400 bridges and one city? You know, that's too many. Bridges are amazing to me. I'm amazed by every bridge. I see.
Starting point is 00:23:27 Bridges are wild. Why is it too many? Too many bridges. Do you think anyone was just like adding bridges for fun? Yeah. You know what? We got 399. I think we need one more.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Of everything. I guess they're trying to avoid traffic. I feel like there's never been an unnecessary bridge. I agree. No one just built a bridge for fun. Seems super hard. They went a bridge too far. We're going to get so.
Starting point is 00:23:53 If you know the fast... Guys, guys, stop. This is all water under the bridge. Let's move on. Oh. The fact that that phrase exists, D.K., bridge too far means, you know what? Maybe he's right.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Anyway, who gets... D.K. gets Kamani Vidal? Get it. Bridge too far is in reference to Operation Market Garden in World War II, I believe. Like, they blew up one too many bridges? I think they, like, went too far or something like that. Quite literally.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I need to watch that movie again. Okay. It's a movie, I believe. World War II? I learned about World War II. I learned about World War II through Call of Duty two and three as, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:27 history books and movies and its video games. I know. I was there. Market Garden. Anyway, I'm going to take Bam Knight running back from Arizona. And also, if you're on Sleeper, I think he's under Zanavan. Yeah, Zon. And so, you know, with a Z.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So searching that might change, literally does change defending on the platform. Night with a K. Night with a K. James Conner's an injured reserve. Trey Benson's on IR. Michael Carter is probably leadback. But I do think Bam Night. I mean, Amar de Mercado has an ankle injury.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I know that this is all a little scary. The Cardinals' offense per set, maybe they float back to Earth. I know it's not ideal, but I do think there's a bunch of flawed options here. There's not a lot of good ones. Undoubtedly great, but I do kind of just think Bam Knight's good, and I do think in the two-minute drill, I do think he's going to be passing down back. I admit that as if DeMarcato is like fine, but maybe that would be a concern, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I kind of like Bam Knight, the way he plays. Like his name's Bam, I won't pretend like our other running backs might not score him, but I will go with Bam Knight in Arizona among these horrific options. I have, this is horrible. I don't think there is anybody who I would start next week who's left. Like I could say Tadj Spears, like the 1B in Tennessee, but like, it's just horrible. I would not recommend it. I would rather, if you have Derek Henry or James Connor on by, I mean, James Cook on by, I don't know. Figure something else out. I don't, I don't think these two are like Tajay Spears or Kyle Minungai. Like, I don't, if you want to add somebody who's out there, I would go add like Kendry Miller or Brian Robinson or somebody who could be a very value.
Starting point is 00:25:52 stable stash if the starter were to go down. It's so brutal. So we are doing this for Monday football. Obviously, if D'Andre Swift got hurt in any way, Kyle Monongai is probably there. But if Kyle Monongai has, the only thing I'd watch is if Kyle Monongai gets more snaps or play in this Washington Bears game after the buy, I'd be interested.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But yeah, it's brutal. Kendry Miller is getting more snaps to the Saints. But it's like, okay, Alvin Camara says he doesn't even want to trade and wants to retire as a saint. And it's like, okay, well, then that's not good because Kendry Miller's not going to get the pass catching work as long as Camer is healthy. and so Taysson Hills, they're stealing goal line work. That sucks. Taji Spears, how many Red Zone trips did the Titans have this year, Craig?
Starting point is 00:26:27 11. Yeah, that's not cool. So, yeah, there's not great options. The other one to throw out here is a stash, but Isaiah Davis for the Jets in case Bruce Hall gets traded. Yeah, it's just like a lot of handcuffs now. It's just a lot of, it's frankly a lot of guys on bad offenses that, in theory, if something happens to the starter, like Titans, Tadier Spears, it's like the Jets of Isaiah Davis, the Saints and I'm like, these are bad offense.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I'm telling you, it's not exciting. Brian Robinson, 35% rostered. That's a good one. He has insane upside if McCaffer. And he's probably getting enough touch. That is probably the best answer.
Starting point is 00:27:02 He gets like five carries a game. He's like the clear backup. He's probably as likely to end up with a random touchdown as any of these guys. So that's, yeah, honestly, Brian, that's a good, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:10 just take Brian Robinson. And with how much they're leaning on McCaffrey, I mean, McCaffrey's getting the shit kicked out of them every single week. Yeah. We're going to keep rolling here. But first,
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Starting point is 00:27:50 injured and it's one of those where they try to spin it as a good thing where they're like, it's not season ending. We're thrilled, but it sounds like he has a high ankle sprain, which I mean, I don't think of as great news. It was weird because- He's a maniac.
Starting point is 00:28:04 I know. They're playing in London this week. McVeigh's already like, we're not ruling him out for London. I'm like, dude, let the man rest. Well, that's some shit they say one.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Sometimes I'm like, oh, they're saying this to mess with the other team. And I'm like, they're half saying it because the guy doesn't want to be ruled out in his own head. They have a buy the week out. after. If they were smart, they would let it. If they play Puka with an ankle sprain this week when they could just get them three weeks
Starting point is 00:28:27 of rest basically, right? I'm doing math, right? Run. Yeah, it's just do that. So I think Puka won't play this week. Also, like, the difficulty of going abroad, there was a good piece in ESPN about how horrible the time Minnesota had playing two games out there in a row going from Ireland and then to London. It was like, just like the commute to get to the practice field, the conditions of the practice field, not being able to bring like the full medical staff. You're away from your Family. Yeah, it was just like, yeah, all the players, nobody was sleeping well. It sounded really tough to do two weeks.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. Yeah, it's probably shouldn't do that. That's just, that's a lot. So with that said, if you need a receiver this week, DK, number one receiver, you'd out off waivers entering week six. Sorry, after week six, entering week seven. Yeah, I think it's still Kendrick Borna. He was my top choice last week, I think, and going into this week again,
Starting point is 00:29:15 Jennings, Juan Jennings is battling Five broken ribs. Five broken ribs, a high ankle sprain, and a low ankle sprain. I assume on different feet, but I don't know for sure. You know what's so funny about that? That's one of them where I actually understand why players lie about injuries. Not just for everyone in the world knowing about your health, but would you want all these linebackers knowing you have five broken ribs?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Right. As if they don't have enough incentive to hit you in the goddamn gullet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's not 100%. He played a bunch, but obviously he doesn't look 100%. I don't know if Pearsall is close to coming back. They are probably going to probably take it pretty slow with him. So right now, and by the way, Kendrick-Born just has great chemistry with Mac Jones.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like, Mac Jones clearly trusts him. It's gone over 100 yards the last two weeks. 142 yards, actually, exactly, in each of the last two weeks. So he to me seems like the clear top guy to get on the waiver wire. There's a bunch of players here for receivers that I'm like, feel okay about, but Kendrick Bourne, I would definitely feel good about plugging into my lineup this week. I agree. It's Kendrick Bourne. I 100% agree. I mean, he's a top five receiver, I think, the last two weeks. I mean, at some point, just pick him up. It's simple. And if
Starting point is 00:30:30 he's available, maybe he's not available. People are like, yeah, it's obvious. But if he's there, Kendrick Board is absolutely the answer. All right. So let's do it. That means it's time for the Kendrick-Born showdown time. All right. Gong's the only thing. I got to bounce back here after bridge debacle. You keep in track, right? I am, yeah. Gong's the only thing gives me peace.
Starting point is 00:30:54 This one's from Dylan. Debonne. In honor, this is an honor of Craig guessing a random guy's name on the show is Ed. And then D.K. just completely not getting it at all.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I apologize. All right. Well, he's not making fun. He's just saying in honor of that moment where D.K. was like, a lot of guys named that is the 50s.
Starting point is 00:31:14 They're like five names. Dylan. Dylan said, according to the Social Security Administration. Oh my God. Where does Edward rank among most popular boy names in the 1930s? DK, out of principle, you have to say top five.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Wait, yeah, what, sorry, what is the number we're guessing here? So it's boy names, not all names. What rank? The rank. Yeah, where does it rank among the most popular boy names? I feel like if DK guesses any higher than five, he's a coward. I agree with that. Any higher or lower? Higher. One, two, three, four, or five should be your answers.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Highest is one is what I was thinking, but yes, okay. The highest rank. You should be guessing between one and five or your, or your. All right. Well, let me do what I want to do, but you're right. I probably should. It'd be funny. You'll probably be right.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Then, well, I feel like the reason this question was asked is because I'm an asshole. So. You're not an asshole. You're the nicest guy, I know. Well, okay, I was being an asshole. You were doing high fits cosplay. I think of it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Actually, I think Kai is pretty nice. Kai's a nice guy. Kai is 100% nicer than me. That's a nice guy. That's actually true. Kyes is nice. Okay, I guess I have a guess. All right, cool.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Three, two, one. Four. Oh, we all went hot. Damn, that's, I just thought it'd be fun of this. Probably low. Fuck. What did you say, D.K.? I said four.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Damn, Craig. You said six? So Craig just gets basically between like 11 and 1,000. That's pretty cool. Of all names. It's pretty well played by Craig. I want to get the rank here. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:42 The answer is, if you guys could change your name, your answer, what would you change it to? it sounds like you're going to say it's it's like top five is it not that is it not that popular edward is 12th oh so i actually i actually win this one you barely i had six away seven away yeah oh that is really funny so can we do we can we do you have the list i'd be curious what you want to top names in the thirties thirties robert oh this is really boring actually robert james john william richard charles donald george thomas joseph David, Edward, Ronald, Paul, Kenneth, Frank, Ray.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Which way, which direction? Just give me the top five. What direction are we going in? Number one was Robert, number two is James, number three. It's all, yeah, it's the one you think. It's just like, yeah, Robert James. John, William, Richard. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Gotta say, it kind of makes me feel like I'm a little bit right. It was 11th? Edward is. It's up there. It's up there. Yeah, it wasn't hard. No, I'm not doubling down. Anyway, I can find Kendrick on here, but Kendrick is my answer.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I go with Kendrick Bourne. Craig, you're a second. Yucky. I'm going to do... Is Trey Tucker still on the board? Yeah. This guy's good every week. So I'm going to stick with Trey.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Oh, wow. He's up there. Damn. I like that. He's the number one receiver on the team. And to your point, I don't think Myers goes to the Steelers, but I don't think Jacoby Myers is on the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:34:08 He requested a trade this off season. Yeah. I don't these on Raiders in three weeks. So I think... Rock Bowers, like, I don't think he's going to play again. I think he's going to be out for a little bit. I think they're going to hold him out for at least three or more weeks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:18 They're just protect. him. I think Trit Tucker is a really good answer. All right. So I would definitely agree with Craig's choice of Tray Tucker if he's out there on your waiver wire to go get him. Josh Downs for the Colts. If he's out there, I think he's a solid option. He's been good. He's 20% target rate in last two games. I think he's a really good player. The problem is he just doesn't play a ton of snaps. He's only 50% to 60% snap rate. But right now he's got a good connection with Daniel Jones. And then as we get into the more speculative guys, these are lower rostered guys. Jordan Whittington for the Rams. is ostensibly the Puka replacement. If Puka misses this next game, he played 92% of the snaps for the Rams this last week. Three catches, 23 yards, nothing to write home about. But I think he's the guy that will sort of get the replacement snaps for Puka. I think I'm going to go with Tess Johnson.
Starting point is 00:35:05 This one is kind of a leap of faith because we don't really know how the rotation for the Buccaneers is going to shake out. But it sounds like Evans, Mike Evans has a chance to get back. But Godwin is out next week. the coach already said that. Buka is hurt. He's not going to be back. It's almost impossible to come back on a hamstring injury. I know.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And so Tess and this other guy, Cameron Johnson, were the two main guys to see a significant snap increase after Buka went out last week. And I just like Tess. I personally just think he's a good player. So I'm going to roll with Tess here. He had a team high 21 routes last week. Sterling Shepard is another option if you want maybe a higher floor option for the Buccaneers. And so that would probably be my choice.
Starting point is 00:35:48 choice. Elyke, I'm an O'R for the Titans. I said yesterday I don't want anything to do with the Titans' offense, but he is sensibly now the number one receiver for that team because Calvin Ridley is set to miss time. Zay Jones for the Cardinals with Marvin Harrison missing time. Jones caught five balls from 79 yards this last week. And then Kishon Booty's still out there for the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:36:08 He was quiet the last few weeks, but went off with two touchdowns this last week. The other guy, and we haven't seen the Bears play yet, but Luther Burden might be a good time to stash him, post-by, rookie bump, all that stuff. We can see them start to kind of transition him into the offense more going forward. So those are some options. I think I'll just go with Tess Johnson, but that is just a flyer at this point. Luther Burden certainly has the most upside, I would say, of all these guys in terms of who could be like a household name in week 12, it's probably Luther Burden.
Starting point is 00:36:37 One week, and the flip side of that is if it's one week and you actually just need a guy for one week, I agree with Dick at Jordan Whittington for the Rams because he actually played the first half. He actually played the whole, shout out Nate Yonke. This great stuff of PFF with the usage and snap rates. And he actually, when Pooka Nuku was hurt, Jordan Wittington was already part of 11 personnel and all the three series sets because two out also has a hamstring. So that's right. Yeah, yeah. So when Pukinukua got hurt, Jordan, like Jordan Wittings definitely going to play a lot because he was literally on the field at 21 of 22 snaps before Puka was injured. You never know exactly where a ball gets distributed.
Starting point is 00:37:10 It's not like a running back. It's not as easy. But I think Wittington, I also just think it looks good when he plays. So I think, and again, he has a buy in week eight too. So that's a one week stop gap. Tight end. This one's quite easy, D.K. Number one tight end you would add after week six. Harold Fanon for the Browns.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Seven catches 81 yards. David and Joku went out with a knee injury. Fanon already was the tie. 10 14 and target rate on the year before in Joku got hurt. And obviously now that could increase if he sees more snaps and more time. Dylan Gabriel, I think he threw 50. two passes in this in this game that's not going to happen every week probably hopefully or else the browns are doing horrifically um but when he plays gabriel he's it's a lot of checkdowns
Starting point is 00:37:55 it's a lot of stuff under 10 yards it's a lot of quick get rid of football quickly he's not pushing the ball down the field and this is the kind of area where fanon is going to make his mark and so i think he has a he has a chance to be one of the top receivers on this brown team obviously that's a that's not like a super inspiring thing to say but he has also missed He's also forced 11 tackles missed per PFF, which is most among tight-ins and receivers. So he's out there making guys miss. He has good hands. He's probably not going to explode for a ton of yards, but he could be in PPR and half-peepard are a pretty valuable pick.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah, I would take Fannan, too. What do you think, Craig? Yep. Okay. Harold Fanon Showdown time. All right. It is the Harold Fanon Jr. Showdown time.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Give me something good, Hyphitz. Give me something good. This is from Redact. Well, I could give you one about something we talked about recent. Well, yeah, I don't want to trade it. I'm wondering if this is good enough for you. Well, I don't know what it is. We can't answer that.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Only you can answer that. This is from Redacted. Redacted. They didn't redact their name, but I did it for them. Because they start with, I work in broadcasting for multiple networks. So every time you guys bring up something you see. Chris Collinsworth. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah, sorry. is from... Tom Brady? Chris C. Tom? Tommy B. Phil? Every time you guys bring up
Starting point is 00:39:24 something you see during a game and start guessing what happened, I find myself screaming into the ether redacted rights. It gets me every time you mention the cameras
Starting point is 00:39:32 on the goal line thing. I keep screaming. That's mainly high fits for the record. Well, I'm like, they have all these things where they're like trying to figure out if a guy crossed the plane
Starting point is 00:39:41 and the camera's like four yards off set. And I'm like, how could we have ever known that you would need a camera on the goal line? How could we have predicted this. So,
Starting point is 00:39:50 I feel like if I was, if I was building my own broadcast network, if I was like going to shoot my first NFL game, one of like the first five cameras I set up would be at the goal line. I actually, so I actually did get an answer to why they don't do this, which someone else who works for a broadcast network's emailed in and
Starting point is 00:40:05 said that their belief was that it's actually because there are stationary camera stations, obviously, in the stadium that are built and they were construct, obviously all the stadiums are older. and they did not build them for this world of crazy instant replay. They're positioned around putting the game on television,
Starting point is 00:40:24 but selling seats. And frankly, it would just be really expensive to reposition the cameras because you have to construct, you have to move them into an area where there's currently seats, and it would just be a lot. And so they just don't care enough to do it because it's not like NBC or Fox owns the stadiums,
Starting point is 00:40:40 obviously you have to convince an owner to move a fucking camera station, like 10 yards. They're like, no, they don't want to do that. So they were like, That's kind of the answer. That's funny. I have a guy with like a phone. I was like, throw it on a fucking tripod.
Starting point is 00:40:52 What are we talking about? And they made the point surprisingly high definition these days. They made the point about the bugger mobile. I know. Meanwhile baseball is doing games. Whatever. Literally throw that thing on sticks.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Anyway, we'll be fine. So with this said, he says every time I talk about this, it makes it mad or she. Actually, I don't know. So redacted says, Thursday,
Starting point is 00:41:10 Sunday, Sunday, Monday football, have more money, so more cameras than an early window game from like the Titans and the Jaguars. So with that said,
Starting point is 00:41:16 the trivia, question is how many cameras are on Thursday and football, Sunday football, Monday and football broadcast? I've taken the average of the three shows. What is the average number of cameras between Sunday football, Thursday and Monday and football? I feel like you know this. Don't you know the answer to how many cameras are at the Super Bowl? Haven't you said that before? It's funny you said that I actually, so I'm writing down my answers now ahead of time when I guess so that I don't get accused of cheating anymore. Well, you know the answer to this question, right? I think I know the answer of how many cameras are at the Super Bowl and I based my guess off
Starting point is 00:41:45 that. And I'm close, but by no means not like I can. So I haven't shows an answer. The question that he knows the answer to you. No. I almost want to tell you how far I'm off, but then I know that I'll throw you off the scent. What do you mean? You know the answer? I wrote down my answer and then I looked up the answer. Pulled the answer. Well, he has the answer in email. So I guess and then I read the answer. So then I can do the show. Did he hide the answer? Uh, it's some people put it all way at the bottom they put like a bunch of like lines lower and then some people put it in white and then some people try to put it in white put it in gray so you know it varies yeah it's not a
Starting point is 00:42:23 perfect system no we're working on it's like it's like the cameras at the goal line it's hard to figure out they're like how's too much money like just how could you possibly anticipate that there would be answers when we get in prime time we're going to up the ante here um all right i think i got an answer in my head okay three two one four eighteen Oh, there you go. Look at this. This is what, so I thought, I think the Super Bowl has 200 cameras, so I want to 6. 200?
Starting point is 00:42:55 The answer's fucking 41. So there you go. Oh. Fuck. That's a lot. No reaction, Craig almost nails it to the number after accusing me cheating. He has no reaction whatsoever. Well, after the Ed thing, I'm gun shy now to gloat.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It was obvious. How could you not know that, Craig? How did you not know that there's 40? I can't believe you were one off. That's embarrassing. It's really easy. After the Ed incident. I'm nervous.
Starting point is 00:43:16 The Ed. saga. Craig, that was incredible. How did you do that? Amazing. Thank you, D.K. It's crazy. There's so much.
Starting point is 00:43:24 You're extremely smart. I guess way low. Fanon is mine, which means high fit said 60? Yeah. I said 18. Yeah, I'm second. I will take A.J.
Starting point is 00:43:37 Barner for the Seahawks because there are a lot of slop tight ends you can take. And if he's available in your league, I just like A.J. Barner. I don't think it's the worst tight end week. I got to say. I just at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:43:49 I just maintained what I said the last couple weeks, which is all these guys are lottery picks. The Seahawks offense is good. Sam Darno looks to him in the red zone. And again, last week's a good example. Like he didn't score,
Starting point is 00:44:00 but he's three catches, 71 yards. I'm like, yeah, I don't know. A lot of the other tight ends are on offenses that I actually struggle to watch.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like I actually get like antsy. I would say I got two names here that are on offenses that I actually think are enjoyable to watch. So, Tiki, who's your third pick here? at the risk of picking two Buccaneers here, K. Doughton for the Buccaneers, plays a lot of snaps. We have multiple options hurt. When last year, I think it was last year when they had multiple receivers that went down,
Starting point is 00:44:33 K. Dotten was like the number one tight end in fantasy. You're right. So I am going to go with KDot. And even though I don't think that's going to happen again, I don't think he'll be the number one guy. But this last week, he had 26% target rate, five catches, 51 yards. again, he plays a ton of snaps and he has chemistry with Baker Mayfield. It's going to be out there. He's going to be a big option for them.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's a good pick. And you could very easily argue that I made a mistake taking Barner of Rotten because not only that, the Buck's next two games are the Lions and the Saints. And so, I mean, those are pretty scoreable games. So yeah, I mean, Kate Otten, honestly, maybe a better pick than A.J. Barner one. He had a really big play this last week. He's been really utilized in the Red Zone. Michael Mayer for the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:45:13 As long as Brock Bowers is out, I think he's bankable. He could play him every week. He had 30% target rate this week, five catches, 50 yards, and a touchdown. He was a really good pass catcher in college. I think he's basically just been buried because Bowers is here. I mean, he was a top 40 pick in the NFL draft. Yeah, and he was gone from the team for a while last year. So he's kind of flown on the radar, but he's a very talented pass catcher.
Starting point is 00:45:37 And, you know, as long as Bowers is out, I think they're going to utilize him. So he would be my other choice there. I think you guys are right that by the standards of tight end, this is an unusually good week. You're right. I was probably being a little harsh when I'm talking about bad offenses. These are all, they're weirdly,
Starting point is 00:45:51 they're just frankly like better situations that we're used to because KDOT and the Bucks is good. Michael Mayer, Raiders are tough, but I agree. We're the good quality. I think you could also toss out a Ronde Gadsden to tie-ins for the Chargers who has been pretty good. He had seven catches, 68 yards this week.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Like, he has beat out Tyler Conklin, came back this week and Gadsden still had the week he did. So I do think he's kind of trending in the right direction. Yeah, you guys are right. I was probably negative because I was thinking about like Taysom Hill and Mason Taylor and I'm like, I hate the Saints and Jets offense. It'd be right. These are pretty good options.
Starting point is 00:46:22 And also I think they're widely available. I think that's the other thing. Wait. Didn't you take, uh, you took Taseom last week. And he scored his touchdown. He did score. He had one, my little weird on Taysam Hill. One touch, one carry.
Starting point is 00:46:32 One yard, one touchdown. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's so funny. Remember we argued about Mason Taylor, Tayson Hill. Yeah. Tason Hill touchdown. one yard.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You know how many yards? You're right. You were right. No, no, I'm saying it's the exact opposite of when Craig and I argue about Hunter Henry and Mark Andrews, and they ended up number one and number two. I didn't think the opposite.
Starting point is 00:46:49 They had three yards combined those two people. Yeah, I didn't think the Jets were going to have negative 10 yards passing. I didn't think they were going to be that bad. I was wrong. But no, this is a good week to reset a tight-ed. Fanon, Barner, Otten, and Michael Mayer, those are all good options.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Fant for the Bengals with Gisiki out an extended period of time, you might get more snaps. He's another option for you. Okay. So those are the tight ends. All right, cool. So quarterbacks real quick.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I think this is easy. If you need a quarterback, there's Jackson Dart, if he's available, if he's available, Trevor Lawrence, if he's available. I think all those guys
Starting point is 00:47:25 are perfectly, perfectly reasonable. And I do think some of those guys are available. If you really need to dig deep, there are other guys we could discuss, but am I wrong? I feel like one of those guys
Starting point is 00:47:36 is probably out there. If not, I mean, you could talk me into, you know. What about Flacco? Yeah. Our boy Joe. I was going to ask. I feel like if you could do worse because at the end of the day, Flacco's job is to throw a lot of passes to Jamar Chase and T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah. And like, you could do worse. So I give you permission if you're really in a pinch. Like if you have Josh Allen. Playing the Steelers on a short week. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So Thursday is not great.
Starting point is 00:48:06 That's the worst part about. Flacco is like you don't want to have to make that, you know, if maybe, I'm trying to think of the guy, Kyler maybe, and you're like, oh, I need to backup, but no, Flacko is if you're really desperate, like, you know. Or if you're, like, waiting on Mac Jones news. It's like, exactly. Black or Mac Jones. Defense, this one's easy, the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:48:21 I mean, my God, if they're available, like, playing Tennessee, Tennessee fire. I wrote this down before they fired the fucking Brian Callahan, but I'm like, I, not only is Cam Ward playing horrific and just dropping passes, like, dropping the ball and just dropping it. Mike Vrable Revenge game, like, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I am going to rank the Patriots is my number one defense this week. Like, I just, I really am. Seahawks defense, it's just good. I saw in a lot of my leagues that people drop Seattle because they had injuries
Starting point is 00:48:47 and they didn't look great a couple weeks ago in the injuries, but they're playing Houston. I just think that the Seahawks defense line is so talented and they're getting healthy. They had seven sacks this week. And now they play Houston. I don't care that Houston's coming off a buy. Like the Houston line's not ready for what, like, I think the Seahawks defense is a whole. Vikings, Vikings are a defense that probably,
Starting point is 00:49:07 widely available because, you know, they were on by. I think just they're chaos defense. The Viking ceiling of how many points they can score is probably higher than any of their teams because of the nature of they're just trying to get pixesses. They're trying to get crazy plays. They're trying to turn the ball over. It's chaos. Playing the Eagles, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Obviously, Eagles, the whole thing is, you know, hurts really is trying to not turn the ball over. But I just think the Vikings are just, it's such a good defense to be available. I would take them. Panthers, which is not something ever thought I'd say, but they're playing the Jets, dude. And the Jets are horrific. I just, I can't say enough how bad.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Dude, Justin Fields is, and Fields will probably be better going forward because the Broncos are weirdly good at limiting rushing quarterbacks to not running between, you know, this is, they've just really been good at it, but I never thought it's history
Starting point is 00:49:52 in the Panthers. But the other one way above the Panthers I wish it said them higher is Houston. Not great analysis. Obviously Houston's a good defense, but they're only like 45% roster another team that was on a buy. Like, just it's a check
Starting point is 00:50:03 because between the Texans and, um, Vikings, those are just two high caliber defenses that aren't usually available. And people drop defenses all the time when there are by. So Houston is also just a, wow, you might get really lucky if Houston's available this week. I would just hold them. So. And also, yeah, I'm also sorry, they're playing the Seahawks. And I, Houston's playing Seattle.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Yeah. That's a little scary. But I still think there's something too when you have a really high quality defense. I just do it. And don't think about it. Okay. Any other waivers, any of the football stuff where you hit a couple of emails? We can get out of here.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Don't think so. Okay. Emails. emails. Got an email from Marissa. Marrine. M. Bone. Marissa really.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Right? What? You said Marissa? Yes. Yeah. Okay. Mbone. Marissa really combined two prompts here, which was what people thought of the guy who
Starting point is 00:50:59 went to the hospital and wanted credit. He got home from the hospital and then slept 10 hours and woke up and took in football started. He wanted to bench his guys, wanted to change his lineup. And also, he wanted stories about labor. Just what husbands were doing your labor. So anyway, Marissa emails in and said, that one guy that had to go to the emergency room and couldn't set his lineup gets no sympathy from me.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Picture, it's December 25th, aka Christmas, championship week. I've been in labor for 30 hours. Kansas City's playing Christmas Day. I have Kansas City's defense. What do I do? Review Shreds us in all caps. Review and set my lineup while in labor. And I end up winning my league,
Starting point is 00:51:44 win my championship, and she attached pictures of the transactions for proof. No excuses. Play like a champion. Wow. I think that game was against the Steelers. The Steelers are like shit.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Yeah. Once again, men are kind of weak. What did we end up deciding? I can't remember. We gave him all again. Whatever we said, I'm like, yeah, soft on crime. Marissa's right.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Marissa's right. Unfortunately, I think we did give him a mulligan, but I'm sure by now they heard that and they did give him a mulligan. No, let's rescind it. They changed it once. They'll change it back.
Starting point is 00:52:14 You know, it's an appeal. Snip snap. Snipsnap. Courts changed the decision all the time. We appeal to this. It's fine. Sure. Yeah, Maris is right.
Starting point is 00:52:23 Another one here. This is just from Louise. This is just our annual Misty Mountains PSA. Elbone. This is from Louise. He says, My breakfast, spinach, blueberry, strawberries, almond milk, smoothie. Very healthy.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I guess the smoothie is spinach, blueberry, strawberries, almond milk. Wow, that is healthy. Putting spinach in a smoothie just doesn't sound very good to me. I don't think the point is to make it good. I think the point is to get spinach in your body before your brain realizes it sucks. That's fair. Yeah, I used to put spinach in my smoothies a whole time. And it was bad?
Starting point is 00:52:54 Well, the whole point is you mask it with fruit and other things, so it doesn't really taste that bad, but you're getting spinach. Okay. So, Louise says, my son turns out. one on Monday and he was having a bit of a freak out, refused to calm down. My wife and I finally tried out. The Misty Mountain Advice, D.K. has been saying for years and it fucking worked. Hell yes. Instantly stop flailing. My son instantly stopped flailing. Look towards where I was playing the song. A few minutes later, he was sleeping. Incredible, thank you. This is just our
Starting point is 00:53:21 we just have to do this every three months because everyone's like, this doesn't apply to me. And then you have a kid and you're like, I would do anything for this child to stop crying. And you're like, the podcast, said the song. We should make it our intro music so that when are driving with their kid, the kid falls asleep before the episode starts. Should we have like solicit stories in the back? Should the gap be Misty Mountains so the kids fall asleep and then they can listen? Is it instantaneous? Does it work in five seconds?
Starting point is 00:53:46 But, Dick, wait, give me, I mean, I don't know. D.K. knows. Wait, what was the question, the pitch? How quickly does it work? So I would say I would clarify that in my experience, it wasn't necessarily to make Calvin go to sleep, not my son go to sleep. it was when they are crying and freaking out, it's a soothing mechanism.
Starting point is 00:54:05 It's like the humming. It's like deep guttural humming. They're like, mm-hmm. And no, you got to do it. Give us a little. I can't remember the song.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I can't remember the lyrics. It's like, do-do-do-do-do. It's like very low guttural humming, which babies just can't get enough of that shit. You guys should play that when I'm crashing out about the giants. I'm like freaking out. Jackson Dark got concussed.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Turn on Misty Mountains. Just put it next to your ear. No, but yeah. Just hit the gong over and over for hyvins. I even tried pulling this on my friend Jackson, has probably listened. I picked up from the airport. They flew like across the country with their,
Starting point is 00:54:42 I don't know, seven-month-old child. And then we were trying to get him, and I just kind of put on the song. I was like, I was like, I was going to go. And then I was going to take credit,
Starting point is 00:54:50 but I was like, that's kind of cool. When you're a parent of a young baby, there's like nothing more, I don't know, like intimidating and then traveling with your baby and going on a plane and stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:59 So having tools at your disposal is very important. This is one of my favorite things we talk about because for like the people listening who don't have any kids, they're kind of like, why are they talking about this? And the people listening who have a child under one and a half are like, how has the most important thing in my life come from this part of this podcast? This is the most actually useful thing we've ever said probably on the show. Not even close. Here's how your baby will stop crying. Also pick up A Ronde Gadsden. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:27 We should really have put that in the first. front. The first thing, here's how your baby stops crying, Brian Callahan got hurt. Here's waivers. That really should. Maybe we changed that in post. Anyway, I wanted, I just love my favorite thing. If you guys use this, please emails. My favorite emails we get, basically, bar none are people who just say, hey, I remember
Starting point is 00:55:43 you said this six months ago and that it worked. So, email us that works for you. All credit to Skippy. She's the one to figure it out. Shout to Skippy. A couple emails. Just other labor stories, because we talked about it. And this one's from Doc Pete.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Doc Pete Peabone Doc Pete D.P. Bone, if you will. Doc Pete. D.P. I don't think we're saying that. D.P. Bone.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Jesus. What's wrong with that? Nope. What's wrong with that? High if it's Google it. D.P. No, no. Definitely don't Google me that.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe not on your work computer. Doc Pete writes, Doc Pete writes, I'm a pediatrician. And over the years, I've attended many baby deliveries. And surprisingly, a surprisingly common occurrence that I've seen
Starting point is 00:56:29 is parents coming to the birthing floor with the pregnant mom walking and carrying her overnight bag while the dad has on a wheelchair a 40-inch flat screen TV and his PS5 or Xbox or something gaming system. Headset, everything. And the nurses tell us
Starting point is 00:56:50 that the dad has been gaming all night with his friends waiting to get to the birthing floor. Wait, this was a one time thing or he sees it a lot. The quote he said was a surprisingly common occurrence. Wow. What the hell? Men, are you okay? No, no, no. Women, how are they
Starting point is 00:57:06 allow, how are these women allowing their husbands to do this? So it's not the men's fault, Craig. Look, we're just being who we are. Yeah, I'm ashamed on all those pregnant wives who let their husbands bring the PS5s. How dare they? Oh my God. I'm actually shocked that that was allowed
Starting point is 00:57:22 because, I mean, like, sure, I'm, like they probably ask, hey, can I bring the PS5? I'd be saying yes. Why would you say yes? Well, God, I'm going to, you know, you want to call me a soy boy beating up. I'm going to go ahead and blame the dads on this one. I'm going to go out of the limb and say who the fuck thinks it's okay to bring a PS5 and a fucking TV? Also, why is she carrying the bag?
Starting point is 00:57:41 I love that there's a four-year-inch flat screen on the fucking wheel. He has a wheelchair for the TV. She's carrying the bag. Oh, that's funny. Craig's Lucky Luce doesn't listen to the show. I mean, it's obviously dumb as hell by these men doing this, but I just like, don't understand how it was approved. I'm confused by that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah, that's a good question. Good question. Like, how was that approved? Because it has to be approved. I think, I think the fact that, like, men are one, have the urge to play video games while their wives are giving birth.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And we're like, well, do they get approval? It's just men are just boys that got over. Like, at a certain point, if the dog keeps shitting in the house, like it starts out, it's like, eventually it's like, hey, it's on you. You're allowed to happen. Oh, my God. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:25 I'm just thinking about, like, just it's a boy you want to cut the umbilical cord or he's like I'm playing the ghost of Sashima sequel hunt calm down that makes me upset you guys don't know what that is but it's fine no I know it's a video game
Starting point is 00:58:38 it's good these are these are cool lives I'm gonna say I was gonna say I'm just like man I should try to get away with more stuff that's kind of unbelievable that's a common occurrence I didn't know you could do that you guys did this happen if I brought my like Xbox with me in a TV
Starting point is 00:58:52 into the room I'm trying to think about what happened again I think I to say, I would be more, I would immediately go to Jackie and you're like, how did you allow this? Why did you allow this? Well, I think she would actually cut my dick off. I think that would, like, genuine. Right. Not even kidding.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I think she'd grab the sharpest thing in arms. There's a lot of those elbows in the room at the moment. My point is, is you couldn't get the TV in the damn car without your partner being like, you think you're bringing that? Like, I don't know how they actually got it to the hospital. I actually, I don't know. I'm putting it on the women. I think he's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:59:27 We got a lot of stories too that are like He's not blaming the women But he's got a point here. How did he even get to that point? How about this? Maybe be interested in having a like a kid. How about that? You know it's funny though?
Starting point is 00:59:41 I wonder if I wonder if the answer is yeah Can you imagine if he was sitting there talking to me the whole time And he's telling me how he's nervous? I'm like yeah, just sit there, I wonder if they're almost thrilled that he's going to just sit there. Well, that was actually I did get I got one I got one tweet from somebody who pointed out And this was a woman recounting her labor and birth or whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:01 And she said essentially the same thing. She just didn't want her husband to bug her. So she told him to go on his phone. That's incredible. I think it is naive to think that the wives are not in control of the situation. Control. Is it too much to ask for the man to be a little interested in helping out with the fucking birth? In defense, he's clearly a little interested.
Starting point is 01:00:23 He showed up. You know, he's a little interested. You know what, that's all it is in life is showing up and playing video games. That's 90% if anything, he's a lot interested. Dude, she'll get the wheelchair on the way out. What's the big deal? Will she? How are you going to get that fucking TV out?
Starting point is 01:00:36 She's walking out with the kid and he's like got the TV on the oh my God. That's so the oh, I can't find it there. Oh yeah, here I got it. This one's also from Daniel. Similar is, not the thing. But he was talking about like, I won't read the whole thing, but he's basically just like, you know, they were doing the labor and they had to go to the C-section and he walks in and they let him go in and he takes one peek over and he sees the surgery and he like immediately like almost passes out and a nurse grabs him and is like here you go honey and puts him in a chair
Starting point is 01:01:06 and then his wife they were trying to talk to him that he basically is like I was getting medical attention during my wife's fucking C-section I've never felt like yeah yeah yeah it was I think that's pretty common it's honestly pretty common I don't mean to make light of it obviously his I mean his point he was making light of it too but his point was like you know it's seeing that person, you know, being surgery. It's a, it's a very intense situation. You're, I mean, you're in a freaking, you know, surgery room and shit's happening. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Speaking, yeah, email me, these are, I mean, obviously if you're comfortable, you wouldn't email if you're not. Emails that ringer fantasy football. These are, people are thrilled to share these. Check with your wife to make sure we can read it. No, no, she's fine. Just play the video games and so did it. Put her name to put her social security, put everything.
Starting point is 01:01:47 All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Kew, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kaj. Thank you, Ron. Austin. Thank you everyone for listening. Thank you to everyone who didn't bring their gaming console to their children being born. Shout out to women for dealing with men. That
Starting point is 01:02:03 probably sucks. Sorry about that. And thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Why not? I feel like I haven't really hit him before. No. I was trying to think of things that you could, like music, you could play in the labor room to calm people down. I don't think, I don't know if Mozart is really the vibe you're going for, but I was thinking of classical music and, yeah. Well, you could kind of two birds, one stone it.
Starting point is 01:02:33 If you want to kind of capture that gutterole Misty Mountains vibe, you just play Halo out loud. And then you get the, oh, oh, that transports me back. That's nice. Wait. Fuck, that's sick. Do you think babies would calm down with the Halo soundtrack? That's sick.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I love the Halo sound. Running riot Dude, you're in that video of the guy Just being like, Slayer It's a killtacular, killpocalypse, Kill Mincharro Yeah, damn, you saying Slayer, slayer, slayer,
Starting point is 01:03:06 Slayer, running riot. It's the, that I actually Dude, Craig, I think I've mentioned this before, but you remember the ghost, the vehicle was like a little motorcycle thing that flies around. It sounds just like all electric cars now. Oh my God, you're right. They all just sound like the ghost.
Starting point is 01:03:25 They used the ghost noise for all electric cars now. It's like, do we all love Halo and have never talked about this? Oh, we've talked about it a little bit. Halo is my favorite thing I've ever done. Halo is like the only video game that I really remember playing a lot and like loving. I only played at my friend's house. My parents like never really were into allowing us to have like shooter games growing up. That was, that was, I mean, not for the same.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Well, I had a funny experience where my mom was like, there's no way you get a Grand Theft Auto, but didn't, so then we got Saints Row, because I don't think she, Saints Row was basically an entire franchise, a video game built on parents who didn't want to give their kids GTA, but didn't know Saints Row was a knockoff of Grand Theft Auto, so it was kind of like worse or we're weirder.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So we got that. But Halo, though, was, like, the best, I mean, honestly, probably I peaked. It was just like playing Halo 2, an Xbox Live after school. You peaked? Yeah, I think so. probably. Yeah, it was a great game.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I've told this story before on the pod, but like we used to put like the cardboard. The cardboard alone on the TV. That's necessary though. Because the screen, because like it was one of those where obviously there's blatant cheating, but there's also the thing ever, you couldn't like not see anything.
Starting point is 01:04:40 You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, it's necessary. Good old days. What was your, what was you guys? What was your move? Could you go sniper or were you one of those people?
Starting point is 01:04:49 I was a rocket launcher. the Rock Launcher fucking Rocket launcher man So did you play Halo 1 DK? Yeah mainly You never saw the battle rifle Did you? Battle rifle?
Starting point is 01:05:01 I don't know I think I did play Halo 2 But I definitely like Cut my teeth Playing Halo 1 I was never like I didn't play a ton of video games So I was never that
Starting point is 01:05:11 The only video game I was ever really good I was like Super Smash Bros So when I played Halo with my friends It always kind of suck It's like fucking annoying It always sucked Because like everybody else was so good that I would just be like the dead duck
Starting point is 01:05:22 getting sniped left and right? I didn't have a GameCute, I didn't have a Nintendo, so that's how I felt going to college because I feel like Halo, the game that I think is probably was the most prevalent in college at the time was definitely Super Smash Brothers.
Starting point is 01:05:36 And I feel like that was also a game that I could participate and try to beat Kirby and just not die first. You just float. People save you, it's like Survivor. People would save you for last because they're like, I'll definitely beat him.
Starting point is 01:05:49 But like, this curve of trying to get good enough in college to someone that has been playing forever is impossible. Yeah, it's tough. It's just hard, yeah. I was pretty good at Super Smash. Not the best at Halo or like, Call of Duty.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I've played less than 10, 15 times in my life. It's like, it's no point. I'll get destroyed. But Call of Duty, I just, it's funny how quick, I feel myself so left in the dust in all these games. Like, even Madden, I can tell them a specific era of age where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:06:16 why would I want to people why would I want to play people online ultimate team I'm like I just I feel like unnerved by the idea of like setting up an ultimate team and I feel like kids younger it's like all they do and I'm like I want to disconnect from this entirely from the internet I want to play
Starting point is 01:06:35 call of duty just for the historical lessons that you learn like I don't know what's the version called campaigning or something like that you don't play the you're not like playing online or whatever. You're just actually playing the game. Imagine that. You're actually playing the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I want to do that. The World War II one looks great. One more time, Craig. Do it one more time. What? The Hala nice. Oh. Goodbye, everyone.
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