The Ringer NFL Show - Brissett Dumps Dallas, Kyler’s Future, and Week 10 Waivers
Episode Date: November 4, 2025The guys react to the 'Monday Night Football' game between the Cardinals and the Cowboys. Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 10. (00:00) Intro(02:04) ‘Monday N...ight Football’(16:06) RB waivers: Tank Bigsby, Blake Corum, Devin Singletary(30:24) WR waivers: Parker Washington, Alec Pierce, Christian Watson(47:54) TE waivers: Harold Fannin Jr., Colston Loveland, Isaiah Likely(01:04:25) QB waivers: Sam Darnold, Marcus Mariota, J.J. McCarthy(01:07:57) D/ST waivers: Seahawks, Browns, Bills(01:09:02) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Further. Find your kitchen dreams at IKEA.us/dreamkitchen. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck,
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After week nine, entering week 10,
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Let's get into Cowboys Cardinals here on Monday night football before we even get into
the game.
And there is actually, I think, a lot to talk about.
Cardinals win 2717.
Craig,
I feel like,
did people even watch this game
or what was going on YouTube TV
and ESPN have this dispute?
And even we were trying to figure out,
hey,
how are we going to turn this thing on?
Yeah,
can I admit something embarrassing?
So I have YouTube TV.
I'm a paying customer.
There is a dispute between YouTube and Disney
over carriage fee,
so you couldn't watch the game.
My building has cable.
I couldn't figure out.
I couldn't figure out how to get it to work.
Oh.
Couldn't figure it out
Wait, what do you mean your building has cable?
Like my apartment building offers cable
For free? Yes, for free.
Basic cable.
Do you have like a cable outlet in the wall somewhere
That you plug a cable, actual cable into
And then into your TV?
I've been in my apartment for over two years
When we first got in, there was cable
And we used it until we got YouTube TV set up
And then since then I've only used YouTube TV.
But it was free or you were paying for it
And they just have the hookup for cable?
what do you tell you it's free
basic cable is free provided by
like the HOA or it's like a part
of the package of getting the apartment
but anyway the whole point is is that like there's three
remotes I have like an Apple TV remote I have a
Samsung remote and then I have the spectrum
remote I couldn't figure it out so I was
I had to stream the stupid game illegally
because I guess I'm 100 years old
so I was I was off the grid
on some illegal site to watch
I had the same thing I had
I had a certain kind of site up
that it crashed.
So I decided to pay the,
it was five bucks for like Sling TV,
day past,
DK sent that.
I was like,
what a boomer going to pay for this.
And then I decided to,
what a boomer.
I know.
And then I was like,
so then I started,
pulled that up on my laptop.
And I,
for whatever reason now with the update to Mac,
instead of just back in my day,
put it,
to HDMI to,
just extend this display.
It wanted to airplay the audio,
but even though the thing was extended,
it took me,
I missed the entire,
where the Cowboys went through the Cardinals drive,
like knife through butter.
I couldn't hear or see it at the same time.
Either hearing the plays or like watching,
but I couldn't hear anything.
And the whole time I'm just like fucking mad at airplay
trying to get this game going.
And I also felt like an idiot.
I got to say it was nice timing
because I would probably say this was one of the more irrelevant
Monday night football games to watch
where it doesn't really matter
if nobody had access.
of this game because it was Cardinals, Cowboys.
And for most of the game, the Cardinals just kicked the shit out of Dallas.
There was a moment there where it felt like Dallas was kind of building some momentum.
Right.
A brutal Giovante Williams fumble.
Dak got sacked a bunch of times.
And this game never was even within 10 points.
The Giovante fumble was brutal mostly because whoever stripped the ball from him or recovered
it then said really clearly on the microphone,
Giovante's ass!
And they said it like three times.
I did hear that.
I got to say the microphone guy was cooking today.
He was all over the place.
I was catching everything.
He was pointing that thing at everybody.
The parabolic, like the giant...
Yeah, the laser beam of sound
that he's just pointing at people.
He was crushing it because I was hearing things picked up left and right.
He was on his A game.
I mean, also, frankly, the most entertaining part of the beginning of the game
was that Stephen A. Smith was sitting next to Jerry Jones
and did the real-life SpongeBob, all right, I'm going to head out
when the Cowboys turned the ball over in the beginning of the game.
And he just got up and left.
Also, speaking of that, so Jerry Jones,
announced that they've already agreed upon
a trade. And maybe two
maybe one or two more, Craig. I think
well, I think what happens, I assume, is that
basically they wait, like sometimes
instead of just calling us in Tuesday, they'll agree to
it and they're like, all right, if no one involved gets hurt or whatever.
But you're not supposed to say it, but he clearly
is worried that people will stop paying attention
to Dallas because he's talking again.
What do you guys think the trade is? Do you want to guess right now?
They'll probably
get a trade for Kyler Murray because he's
available. It's probably
a pass rusher.
He said something along the lines of it's going to help us where we really need a lot of help,
which is because they traded away their best player.
Which is funny because Jerry Jones has also quoted this year saying no one player is going to change our team.
It'd be funny if they said.
Aikman was like, I think he should call, I think Jerry Jones should call the other team back and cancel it.
Because one player is not going to make a big of difference.
Like, damn.
It would be funny if it was two firsts than Kenny Clark for Michael Parsons.
I wonder if they could pull that off.
I know the Troy Eickman thing he really I love Troy when he just
destroys the Cowboys it's really funny I mean Dallas we don't have to spend
that much time on them they can't stop the run on defense they can't pressure the
quarterback they can't cover and they can't tackle that's most of defense and then
the offense has to be perfect and they come out today and they have two turnovers
and downs they have two different they have two different the first again the
first drive is awesome and they sum out and score then the next two drives
somehow both end on third and 17 and then they quietly have brandy
and Aubrey try the field goal record that is like 26 hours old.
And then the first half was over.
And so when they're not perfect, like they come out and look like this.
And so I think the way more interesting part is DK.
I'm surprised actually how mainstream it has now become with, I mean,
credit to Joe Buck and Troy talking about it all this whole second half of the Cardinals
kind of seem like they are going to bench Kyler Murray for Jacob percent.
Soft bench.
Soft.
Yeah, it's a shadow benching here.
Pretent he's still hurt, probably.
No, I mean, Aikman was actually saying it as the game was ending.
He's like, I don't think they can go back to Kyler Murray at this point.
I think they shouldn't, and I don't think they will.
And that's, yeah, that's a pretty strong statement.
And obviously he spent time with the team this week.
Maybe he got some sort of insight information on that.
But I mean, at the end of the day, the way that Brissette is playing,
it doesn't really make sense for them to try and go back to Kyler right now.
And it can just, like, extend this rehab a little bit longer and see how it goes.
Keep riding Berset as long as he's playing well.
And he played really well in this game.
their offense is so different.
When he's back there,
like he can pass from the pocket.
He converted a couple really long third downs.
You know,
he's unlocked Trey McBride in the red zone,
which is something that's been a huge problem
for Kyler Murray his whole career.
I think I saw,
I don't know what the status of exactly,
but he had McBride now has, I think,
four or three touchdowns.
No, I took a photo of it because I thought it was amazing.
Yeah, what was it?
It was, Terry McBride,
it's 10 straight games.
with five catches,
which the only other tight ends
to ever do that
are just Tony Gonzalez
and Travis Kelsey.
Oh, the thing
I was going to talk about
was the touchdowns thing.
He has like four touchdowns
with percent in like five games
and in like 20 or 30 games
with Kyler Murray,
he had like three.
Yeah, he famously had what,
one last year?
Yeah, similarly,
Marvin Harrison, Jr.,
is one catch shy
of his career high in a game
like three minutes
into the second quarter.
And that's another thing, too.
that's what I was talking to you guys about, I think, a couple weeks ago is just, like,
Kyler is not a good fit for the type of receiver that Marvin Harrison is.
And Brissette is because he throws-
Because Kyler can fit almost anywhere.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
I really don't know what they do here.
Obviously, you know, Kyler has a huge, huge contract.
But that hasn't, you know, necessarily stopped teams from moving on for the crew.
That doesn't matter.
It's just if he's good or not.
And the reality is, Kyler said, every in the season,
my knee is as healthy as it'll be.
And now he's missing time.
I just think that this is what happens with shorter guys.
When, like, you have, again, I don't keep harpy on this,
but I feel a little more vindicated when Tua literally says two weeks ago,
I can't see over my offensive line.
And he's six foot one.
And it's like, we never talk about six foot one,
but the guy's six foot one and down.
It's harder to see the middle of the field.
It doesn't play on time.
So you have to have superpowers to account for the fact of what D.K. just said that
the rhythm of plays, it's like if you're not,
you become functionally.
like you become Kevin James and Hitch where it's like you have to stay in your strike zone.
You can't actually dance to every kind of song.
Like you're just not able to play in rhythm for all the kinds of colors of the rainbow
of all these different plays that they're calling.
And then Jacoby Preset comes in and they're like, damn, he's not like more talented than
Kyler Murray, but he can just run more versions.
You can just play in rhythm.
Yes, he can just play.
You don't just do your job.
It's like if everything's working, like he can just keep the train moving.
It doesn't have to be around him.
when Kyler Murray is 24 and again had the athleticism of someone who's the ninth overall pick in the MLB draft and also the first in the NFL and he could just run around and extend every play by five seconds like Russell Wilson who could also do this in 2016 then that is better you're bringing more to the party than you are taking away when the athleticism starts to go you're just taking stuff away from the offense without the other worldly creation ability and then you're like holy shit Jacoby Preset's better than you actually
It's been really strange.
Yeah, unfortunately for Kyler, I don't think he's going to age well at all in the NFL.
No.
His size and his scrambling ability.
I mean, he's already, I don't think people think of this about Kyler, but this is his seventh season.
Seventh season for Kyler Murray.
He's been in the league a very, very long time.
And I'm not sure how many more opportunities he's, I mean, he'll probably be a starter for another team next year if I had to guess.
And he'll get one more crack at it.
But like Kyler Murray at 33 years old,
I'm not sure how that would look.
I'm not sure how that would work.
Eventually,
it'll kind of look like Russell Wilson a little.
Kyler's a better throw of the football, probably.
But I guess, and again,
I don't want to bury Kyler.
Like, obviously, he's really talented,
he's really good.
I think the flip side with Kyler is,
it's weird that we're talking about this.
And this is kind of the two-a-thing too.
It's not like people are in love with the intangibles.
Like, we're still hearing stuff whispers about Kyler's,
like, leadership and stuff.
And it's like, that stuff doesn't fly if you're not good.
Do you think Kyler and Bryce Young,
who I would say Bryce Young has been fine.
I don't know if like the ceiling is there for Bryce Young.
I feel like we all kind of know what he is.
Do you think that the under six foot quarterback
and under six foot quarterback will ever go first overall
in the NFL draft ever again?
No.
Probably not.
I don't think so either.
Yeah.
Even Baker Mayfield, it took five years for him to really look good.
I mean, Caleb is not that much taller, though.
This is the thing with Caleb.
We joke about this, but the NFL draft,
the GMs aren't that different than women on hinge,
where it's like a guy's six foot flat.
It's all we talk about.
Caleb's 6-1.
It doesn't come up in the draft process.
This is also Caleb Williams' issue.
And that's not about him.
It's like Aaron Rogers isn't that much tall.
He's like 6-2, I guess.
But like.
But Kyler's like 5-9, right?
5-10, 5-10, yes.
Yeah.
And so still, I mean, that's 3.4.
into shorter than Caleb, which is a big deal.
That's a lot, yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, and again, watch Kyler come back.
It'd be great.
But overall, I mean, there's a reason there's Arizona, I mean, Arizona's, no offense,
but like one of the more forgettable teams, generally speaking.
But, Kyler's tenure in Arizona is.
If you're playing the Cardinals, if your team's playing the Cardinals, wouldn't you rather
have Kyler, wouldn't you rather have them play Kyler than Brissette right now?
Yeah, I mean, Brisset, he did give a lot of sacks in this game.
Especially in the second half.
I mean,
Jadavia and Clowny really,
I mean,
Arizona kept having six offensive
linemen in this game,
and they still couldn't block
like Jadavian Clowny.
There were a lot of,
I mean, there were a couple,
I mean,
some of it isn't necessarily on percent.
There were a lot of just unblocked plays.
Like,
there was a lot of sloppiness
from Arizona in this game.
I do want to just before we move on,
shout out,
Arizona is some cool youth on this team.
I am a believer in Will Johnson
a cornerback,
the quarterback out of Michigan.
I'm a believer in Walter Nolan,
who I think got his first career sack
tonight at Ole.
He was a very touted guy
entering college.
But I don't care about them.
Callias Campbell ending this game.
His motherfucker was born in 1982.
Sorry, 1986.
You were born.
Right at the end there.
He just ended the game with the two sacks and what Dallas infeasably could have still come back and won the game.
Calais Campbell is literally the oldest defender in the NFL.
And he genuinely could have retired before COVID and had a long NFL career.
And it is crazy that Callas Campbell is actually impacting Monday night football.
Yeah, I love that guy.
He's awesome.
He did like the step back jumper after beginning that second sack.
He was slowing down the hurry up.
Like Dallas is trying to get to the line.
He's like, I'm going to fucking celebrate this sack.
It might be the last one he ever gets.
Yeah.
So yeah, shout out Calais Camp.
D.K., what were you?
Does it, does Kaleas Camp give you hope?
Because like even Kai the other day was lamenting that there are athletes like his age.
Does it make you feel better that a guy's getting sacks that's basically your age?
Yes.
does.
How old is he?
39.
Yeah.
Man, that's wild.
He turns 40.
Oh, he just turned 39.
Regardless, that's actually insane.
Okay, anything else from this game before we move on here?
No, I would say back to back, the Sunday night into Monday night, one of the more, one of the more forgettable back-to-backs, I would say, of the NFL season.
Yeah.
Pretty ass.
Cowboys suck.
Okay.
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All right. Let's get to waivers here.
Week 10, baby, man.
Week 10.
Dude, the playoffs are just around the quarter.
It's coming up to the house time now.
Yeah, it is.
Fantasy.
It's like do or die.
We're going to get into like, you know,
power hour over the coming weeks
where you get to trade targets.
I would recommend you go to your league settings
and actually look and check what your trade deadline is
and confirm you the commissioner
because sometimes people are like,
Oh, actually, I'm going to move it up a week or whatever.
But, like, yeah, it's time to start.
If you're in first or second place, it's time to start thinking about, like, you know,
oh, you're going to make the playoffs.
Like, what is your week 15, 16, 17?
Also, just the most basic of all, make sure your league has the playoffs set to week 15, 16,
because the worst thing ever is when buys are in week 14 and someone started the playoffs that way
because they didn't check or we get emails from people who are like,
my commissioner didn't know that week 18, whatever.
Just make sure the playoffs are just those three weeks.
Otherwise, it sucks.
With that said, we're going through waivers.
coming up here for week 10.
We're going to go position by position.
We're going to give our top pick at that position
that we would try to play for this week or beyond.
And if we pick the same guy,
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With that said, decent amount of injuries this week.
DK.
Yeah.
Starting at running back,
who's your number one running back pick,
you would play.
If you had to play for someone
for this week in week 10,
I think we could have a whole separate
little mini category here
for stashes for later.
But if you had to play someone
to get fantasy points in week 10,
who would you pick up off waivers?
Yucky, yucky.
I don't like that question
because none of these are really good options.
This is the nastiest week
at running back, I think.
I'm going to go out on a limb, I guess,
and say Tank Bigsby for the Eagles.
Just because good offense,
they're going to give him position to score.
We don't know yet
what the sequence or what,
what Sequin's groin is looking like this week.
Sorry, we all know what Sequin's groin looks like.
I don't know.
We don't know how healthy Sequin's going to be this week.
They're going to be playing the Packers.
It's a big game for both teams.
Bigsville great in this last game.
We know he has talent.
He's a good runner.
And again, this is a good offense that will give him situations where he can score.
So I guess I'm going to big people.
We don't even know if he's going to play that much because Sequin could just play.
Yeah, I mean, you could just probably, I mean, you have a whole other day before you
to submit your waiver claim.
So you can see it was reported that this Sequin groin injury does not appear to be serious
and that if the game were closer or more important last week, he probably would have stayed in the game.
So, D.K., if you knew that Seekone was playing in Week 10, who would you pick instead?
Well, the reason I just went with Biggsvies, because then I could do, we do the same thing with
Dylan Sampson for the Browns, who if he, you know, goes in for Quinchon Juckins, who hurt his shoulder,
Quintan Juckins back out of practice on Monday.
We don't know yet what his status is going to be for the game, but he's, I,
at least participating in practice.
So that's a good sign.
And then past that, honestly, like, there's nobody I feel confident about.
So to me, it was like, these are contingent picks.
If the starters are hurt this year or this week, I should say,
then we can definitely start them.
But otherwise, you're just kind of getting guys that are in committees right now.
So let's get two giant caveats out of the way.
We're recording this Monday night.
The NFL trade deadline is tomorrow.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
So please give it a massive caveat to like,
I mean, this is kind of a dumb example.
If the Titans trade Tony Pollard,
obviously Tosje Spears is the starter for the Titans.
Even then he probably still sucks
because the Titans' defense.
The Titans' schedule sucks.
That's the thing.
I was like...
If something happened to Alvin Camara,
I'm like, Devon Neal, it's like,
the state sucks.
I don't want these running backs on terrible teams.
Those are ones we can predict.
The obvious one is like Isaiah Davis for the Jets,
where it's like, if Reeshall gets traded,
Isaiah Davis is the starter,
Braylin Allen's injured.
Even then, I'm like,
Isaiah Davis is probably going to suck too.
But the point being,
if there's some running back backfield shift from a trade,
that obviously changes the conversation.
I don't think we can try to predict those right now.
Like, Isaiah, like, at this point, it's Tuesday, like,
just you're going to see the deadlines and you'll submit the claims.
To D.K.'s point, I actually think the argument for what D.K.
is saying is actually that if you're going to just play whack-a-mole at running back,
and you're basically just hoping to get a Tyler L.G.
ask like 11 points because the backup running back scored a touchdown.
You get lucky like Algier Voltring, Bejohn Robinson,
or really Devin Singletary taking a goal line carry to the end zone instead of Tyrone Tracy.
I kind of think D.K. has a point in that if you take Bigsby, it's a roll of the dice.
And if Sequin gets re-injured at any point in the next month and you have Tank Biggsby,
you have tripped into like a top 15 running back every week's Seekwant's out.
So I do think that's a, that that is actually more interested in me about than Tank Biggsby is like, what really is the difference between, like, I would, if I need points this week, I would pick Devin Singletary for the Giants.
Because he's a goal line running back and he's on waivers.
But what is really the difference between Devin Singletary when the Giants are trying versus Tank Bigsby when Sinkwin has to rotate out?
I don't know.
So.
I think you could also probably say the same thing for guys like Brian Robinson on the Niners.
Yes.
If McCaffrey were to get dinged up or, I mean, honestly, the other guy, I think, who's probably not quite.
on this tier. But Blake Corum on the Rams gets a lot of runs when the Rams are winning big,
when Kyran's tired. And he looks good and he seems like he's finally kind of earned the trust
of McVeigh a little bit. So I think the three of them are kind of in like, you might get
seven, eight carries out of them anyway next week. And if the starter were to go down,
they might change your entire league. I agree with that. Blake Corum, especially because
the Rams are playing the Niners this week. The Niners defensive line. So remember how we were
saying the only healthy linemen they had was Mikel Williams?
ACL, gone. He tore his ACL. Just no. Absolutely.
brutal. The Niners are down to their
I want to say four fifth and sixth string
defensive ends. Like the Niners have four healthy
defensive ends. Two of them were joined
the team last week. So it's like
they have no run defense. So I agree with Craig.
But it's the same thing where if anything
happens to Kyrod Williams, Blake Coral, be crazy valuable.
So what do we want to do? Who do we want to
choose? The other
massive caveat that we have to give, though, is if Kyle
Minangai is available, the Bears running back, you have to
add him. We're assuming that he's been added between
because he's rostered and like, he went from like
8% roster to like 80% roster.
If Kyle Minungai is available, we all agree Kyle Minungi from the Bears would absolutely be the guy you have to pick here.
Yeah.
Like, it's so obvious to us that we're not even going to include him this exercise.
We should also, we've mentioned nine guys.
I want to mention a 10th.
We should probably mention Terrell Jennings on the Patriots.
Ramandre's got a toe injury.
Those things can linger.
Terrell Jennings had 12 touches.
Got some goal line work.
Like, you know, that's actually a guy where, if you want to bank on somebody,
getting a touchdown next week.
If I had to bet any of these guys
to get a touchdown next week,
Terrell Jennings actually might be number one.
Yeah, but we don't know if Ramadry's going to play.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
But you basically have 24 hours
to make this decision. We're recording Monday night.
Like Tuesday night, when we get a better sense
of all these injuries, you're going to have to kind of make that call
for yourself. But what should we do?
Tank Biggsby?
I mean, probably Terrell Jennings.
If you actually had to play someone this week, if you're like
three and five and if you lose this week, it doesn't matter.
You're not thinking about the future.
Like probably Terrell Jennings,
if we're being honest.
But that's only a,
from Andre's out.
But yes, okay.
Yeah, he's a toe injury.
But it's not a toe injury.
It's turf toe, right?
Yeah.
So I'm like, okay.
All right, if you don't want to take Terrell Jennings, I get it.
Honestly, part of me does want to just do Blake Corum because the Rams, the Niners defense is
going to get, I think, pretty carved out by McVeigh.
Why don't we, this was, we should do this.
We should just do trivia.
And then whoever wins can just pick wherever they want because it seems like we can't
agree.
That is actually, yeah, there we go.
Wow.
Split trivia.
This is the first time we were just like, none of these guys.
I was super unprepared for D.K.
to say take Biggsby.
Yeah.
I like that, though.
You never know what he's going to do next.
The teams are not usually super forthcoming about injuries.
And so, like, we can see Sequin be limited in practice all week,
and then they just rest him because they want to save him for the playoffs.
Part of me does think it is worth being, like,
what is really the difference between trying to parse if a backup running backs
is going to get five or eight or ten points versus?
Part of me is like the extra value of if Lake Quorum of Kairn gets hurt and
Tank Bigsby if Sequin gets hurt and the third guy that I'm,
Brian Robinson, if he's available, if McAfee gets hurt.
Those guys are just so much more valuable if there's an injury.
The fact that Sequinor has an existing injury,
this is how we got to the Kyle Benang guy's situation
because we've talked for a month that,
well, Dianjus was playing through a groin injury
or quad, whatever.
If he aggravates it, he'll be great.
So actually, I just talked myself into Tankbeek's week.
Yeah, I think it's, I agree. I think it's Chang.
All right.
Fuck it, Tankbeksby showed him.
All right.
Full circle.
It is the cake Biggsby
Showdown time
The only piece
Let that linger for a while
I like that
To let it linger
God dude I love
Love that song
Also love the gong
This one's from Camille
Camille
Camille is that a C
Cbone
Is it a K
C
C
C bone
What's up
Breakfast is this
I don't know how to pronounce
The Siggy's plain Greek yogurt
blueberries and granola with a black coffers.
I thought you were saying cigarettes.
Oh, no.
I mean, some people actually do say that in the breakfast.
Wait, so what did he have?
Siggy's and what else?
Or she.
Okay, sure.
What did they have?
Sorry.
Siggy's plain Greek yogurt,
blueberries and granola.
Wow.
Pretty healthy.
What a nice,
lovely breakfast to begin your day.
So Camille writes about how we always
joke about Chris Collinsworth,
including how Chris Collinsworth's father
was Abe Lincoln,
Collinsworth.
Yep.
And so Camille wrote,
but nobody ever talks about how next to Chris is this angel Mike Tariko
so Camille asks how many professional sports has Mike Tariko done play by play or
in-game commentary for not including the Olympics oh no I was going to ask about that
not including the Olympics how many different sports has Mike Tariko done play by play
by play or in-game commentary do they have to be professional or no I don't think so
like if he started out doing like minor league baseball or like
high school baseball as a 20-year-old accounts.
I don't know. Okay.
Now, and then, yeah.
Shit, okay.
All right.
Three, two, one.
17.
God damn.
What did you say, Craig?
I said 18.
Craig said 17.
Oh, wow.
I said 12.
Yeah, I kind of was like he was five.
I got sandwiched then, damn it.
I was just thinking before we read the answer, I'm like,
doesn't he do Olympic stuff?
Like, wouldn't there be like, you're banging out like six or seven sports
in a day. We just said no Olympics. No Olympics, though. Oh, fuck, I didn't hear that part.
He just doesn't listen to anything. You say a lot of stuff, man. I can't listen to every word
you say. You're always saying stuff. Listen, you say a lot of words. That's what Collinsworth says
in my brain. I don't know. You're always talking, Mike. The answer is, I have to count.
one PGA tour
ESPN Monday football
NBA NHL World Cup
Golf Indy 500
college football
Stanley Cup that's nine
I don't think we football night in America
I don't think that counts as separate
oh yeah we didn't count that
is Monday and Sunday football different
doesn't matter I think I won here
nine or 10
see sometimes when I don't read the answer in advance
it's not as interesting as I thought
A very normal number like oh yeah 10 all right
That's okay.
All right.
Well, you know what, Camille?
I appreciate your breakfast.
Whatever.
The candle be winners.
I'll take Tank Biggsby for the same reason as Kylemanungai, which is if Seyquins growing
gets worse over November and you have Tank Biggsby on your roster, you will maybe win your league.
I want Blake Corum.
Also a great pick.
Because I kind of think that if, I think if Kyron Williams gets hurt, I think Blake
Corum can do like or recreate 90% of the fantasy production of Kyron Williams.
I don't if McAfrey gets hurt so much of his of his role is receiving not that
Brandon Robinson can't do that but I just question I don't know if he'll be able to replicate
that and the offense is like you know I don't think I'd rather go super accurate the irony that
DK after all this gets stuck having to pick between these guys anyway is really funny yeah there's
not a lot of great I don't know where I'm going here I guess I'm going to go with Dylan
Samson just because another guy he if Judkins doesn't come back or if he re-entered his
Shouldkins is expected to play this week.
Kevin's DeFancy's already said that.
You're no interest to David Singletary.
He's the goal I'm back for the Giants.
I get that the Giants suck.
All right.
I'll take Singletary.
I feel like that's the floor pick.
They're playing Chicago.
Yeah, that's the floor pick.
I'll go with Singletary.
I think Samson, though, like, it wouldn't be super surprising to see Judkins
aggravate that.
Shoulders, you know, shoulders can be finicky, so, but there's no good option here.
You can't lower your, like, four on the head of defender.
It's tough out there for what running back.
Yeah. Do you guys feel like it was harder?
Like the running back, for lack of a better term,
it's just less liquid to find snaps at running back this year
than any year to remember?
Well, once again, knock on wood,
been a pretty healthy running back year.
There has, I would say across the board,
help me, but there has not really been like a true,
usually there is a couple waiver wire explosions every year.
I don't know.
Has there been one?
I guess Camani Vidal has been good for a couple games.
I think it was confused.
Doudel.
Rico Doudal.
But it's only been like three games, really.
But Dowdell was even then, Chuba was not really supposed to be like a huge injury.
And I don't think anyone saw that all thing coming.
Hampton going down, it was confusing because it was Haskins or Vidal.
And I don't think people played.
And then Vidal.
And then the other one was James Connor.
Really, the frenzy was for Trey Benson, who then was immediately injured.
Yeah.
And, you know, like, Rashad White's been okay when Bucky Irving was out.
He was rostered.
Yeah.
He was like, no, I don't think anyone added Rashad White.
I feel like he was mostly already in
Yeah, hasn't been a lot of waiver wire league winners
this year. Maybe that'll change.
Maybe everyone will get hurt this week. That'd be cool.
It'll probably be Terrell Jennings, who no one
picked.
Wide receiver. I think the wide receiver
depth this week is actually pretty solid.
My receiver is much better, I think.
Who's your number one receiver entering week 10
that you would take over? There are
three guys that I think are really good picks.
And I'm going to go with,
I'll just go with the safe one here, I guess,
Alec Pierce for the Colts, who is quietly having a pretty solid season overall.
The last couple of weeks, he's had five targets, 10 targets, four targets.
Sorry, that was before this week we were at 13 targets.
And he is a deep threat on a very good offense in the Colts.
Daniel Jones likes to chuck it up to him downfield.
He's had at least four targets in every game except for week one.
So he's averaging almost nine points per game.
I mean, it's a floor play here because there's a couple of,
other guys who I like also, but I guess I'll just go with like the consistency that Alec Pierce
brings here. He's on pace for over a thousand yards this year. He has 501 yards through seven games.
Yeah. He's good. I think he's a good player. I'm going to do the stupid thing.
I guess if we're just going for next week, things changed a little bit because they're playing
Houston. But stupidly, I'm thinking about Parker Washington on Jacksonville, but I just know the game's
going to start. And I'm going to be like, why the fuck did I take the Jags? But Diommy Brown had a concussion
in this game. Brian Thomas didn't play in overtime because of an ankle injury. Travis Hunter's
out for a while. So I'm like, Parker Washington, he's kind of like, someone's got to get passes
on this team, but that doesn't always work out. But Parker Washington has been okay the last
couple of weeks. So that's where I'm meaning. What he would, he was the other guy I liked the most here.
I like neither one's perfect because the Colts are in Germany next week and how many times
you turn out the European game and you're like, why did I pick a player in this game? Like,
you know what I mean? Like that. And then the Colts go on by. So,
That's the issue with Alec Pierce, too, where you're like,
oh, I'm going to add a guy.
He's going to get two catches because it's like the fucking Germany game
and Daniel Jones or whatever.
It looks weird.
And then he goes by and you cut him.
And I'm like, I get, because I agree with everything you said, DK.
I'm just saying sometimes you pick a guy in that European game.
You feel stupid.
But I agree with what you're saying, too, Craig, where it's like, oh, cool.
I picked up a third string receiver against the best defense in the NFL.
It's not ideal.
I am going to lean to Parker, Washington because.
I think I want to change my answer, actually.
Yeah.
Here's the deal.
I'm going to go with Washington, too, because Travis Hunter,
on the IR. Brian,
Thomas Jr. has an ankle injury. He's probably not going to
play. Diombe Brown has a concussion. Tim Patrick
was already hurt coming into this last game
with a groin injury. They like actually
don't have anyone else. They're starting
tight ends been out. Strange. Strange.
That is why I'm taking Parker
Washington because the only reason
put stingly on him and he's fucked.
Well, that was the only reason I looked at the
schedule and I was like, God, it's the Texans.
It's going to be Davis Mills versus Parker
Washington.
Yeah. But I think ultimately
he gives you
like more upside down
over more than one game I guess
they'll have three catches on screens alone
for Parker Washington
let me ask what if we just pick Christian Watson
now that Tucker Kraft turns ACL
Matthew Golden might not play
and it's like all right you have Dobbs
and Christian Watson going against the Eagles
this game matters for the backers
that's the funny part about the receivers this week
I actually look at them all individually
and there's all like glaring like
Christian Watson's clearly the most talented guy here
when healthy but then you're like
Watson's still on a snap count.
It's also funny to pick a guy
still in a snap count
is also the most explosive player
in Green Bay.
Tori Horton for Seattle
where you're like,
is he going to just take Cooper Cup's role?
But then you're like, okay,
so I'm just banking,
this rookie to take catch touchdowns.
All he's Tori Horton does
is to catch touchdowns.
What if Cooper Cup comes back
and then Tori Horton doesn't play
in two receiver sets,
goes back to three receiver sets?
Trey Tucker is like an awesome receiver
of the Raiders.
Brock Bowers is clear of the one.
If Jacoby Myers gets traded,
you'd be like, oh, Tray Tucker, if he's available, maybe he's been cut.
But then they're playing the Broncos.
And I know Patrick Sturtain's probably going to miss that game, too.
But if Jacoby Myers doesn't get traded, you're like, why am I adding Tray Tucker on my team?
But all those guys could work out.
Toro Horton could take Cooper Cubs role, and then he's going to be great.
Trade Tucker could just be the number 200 Raiders team that's way better with Bowers.
And then all these defensive coordinators are going to see Bowers last week and be like,
we'd rather trade Tucker of the football.
Watson could just easily be Christian Watson.
All these guys are good options.
Alex Pierce
to me is easy
I agree, DK, if I actually
to pick a guy of like
your life depends on this guy
getting double digits this week
or you'll die,
I'd pick Alec Pierce.
The combo of like,
he's the perfect kind of replay.
The fact that he goes on buy next week,
I feel like I'm not necessarily getting the juice.
So I'll probably go with Parker Washington
solely because the staying power
of Travis Hunter being on injured reserve.
I'm like Parker Washington will probably be playable
for the coming games.
But I mean,
Maybe I'm also like, I have Christian Watson in the Ringer League, and I'm not cutting
up for these guys.
So maybe the answer is Christian Watson.
I think I, I'm also not, yeah.
I think Christian Watson, if you're factoring in the rest of the season, Christian
Watson has to have the most upside for the simple reason that Jordan Love is going to
keep chucking the ball downfield all year.
And Watson in theory is going to get healthier as a larger role.
So maybe actually, now that I'm saying it, Christian Watson should be first for me.
I would have Parker Washington second and Alec Pierce third.
but if you're in a do or die matchup this week,
I would actually take Alec Pierce.
Parker Washington has 19 targets in his last two games.
He's the top receiver.
Also, we've been saying Brian Thomas looks like ass all year.
He finally looked good last week.
He got hurt.
Yeah, maybe I'll do Parker Washington.
I think it's Parker Washington.
Yeah, I'm going to go with that too.
All right, fuck it.
All right, fine.
I'll do.
But I think, yeah, I mean, the reason we're so wishy-washy on this
is because there are three good options, actually.
There are.
Yeah, you know what?
know what else I don't want.
Christian Watson, if you have the luxury of waiting for the season,
I don't like that the Eagles and Vic Fangio playing the Packers this week,
they just added two cornerbacks.
And it's like, I kind of think they're going to throw Joy in Love really off his game.
Like, Vic Fangry just has a lot of new pieces.
They have a new nickel, Michael Cart.
Like, they can do a lot of new stuff now.
So I don't love that either.
So yeah, we'll do Parker Washington showdown.
We'll trust Parker Washington going up against the Texans defense.
Let's do that.
All these guys are so flawed.
It is the Parker Washington.
Showdown time.
All right, give me something good.
And start with a breakfast.
It's from Sean.
Sean A.
S-Bone.
Is it S-E-A-N or S-H-A-W-N or S-H-O-N-E like Sean Green, former running back?
Was there, was S-H-O-N-N-E?
I thought it was just S-H-O-N-N-E.
Sean Green was S-H-N-E, wasn't he?
It was at least S-H-O-N-N.
Oh, no, we're both wrong.
wrong.
S-H-D-K is right.
S-H-O-N-N.
No.
Oh, there was no E on the end of the green.
Oh.
Just throwing E's out willy-billy.
Got it.
Wow.
Yeah, look at that.
I was good.
I see how they tripped up.
Anyway, it's S-H-A-W-N.
Got it.
What do you think is more common?
S-E-A-N or S-H-W-N?
S-E-A-N.
I think I've seen S-E-A-N more.
Yeah, that's right.
Anyway, it's from Sean.
That could be the question.
Sean.
What's the ratio?
How many Sean's were boring
Someone send that in
Don't actually
Sean's breakfast is a protein coffee shake
Made up of a cup of cold brew
A cup of water
Two scoops of protein powder
That's just adding
Protein powder to coffee
That's not a shake
That's like the workout bro's version
Of a vodka water
Yes
You know
That does not sound appetizing to me
Cold brew
Yeah I don't think he's doing it for the taste
I don't like cold brew either
Really
So birds one stone
Sean sent it
I love this question.
Sean sent in
he was inspired by Craig's story
about just smoking cigars in your room
with your college roommate Chris
and just making your fucking room smell horrible.
Yeah.
So his trivia question is
what's the average temperature
of the tip of a burning cigar?
Jesus Christ.
What a disastrous question.
How hot is the orange part of a cigar?
What a sick and cruel question from Sean.
But look, how hot is like a fire?
I love that.
I don't know.
I've never thought of this.
Oh my God.
How hot is the orange part of a cigar?
So like right after it's lit, we're saying?
I don't know.
It's the tip of a burning cigar.
I assume the fact burning, in my head,
I'm like the orange part.
How hot is, when you inhale,
with the orange part, how hot's the orange part of a cigar?
These questions make me feel so dumb.
Like, now I'm like, I don't actually know how hot fire is.
Do you guys think everyone driving in their car right now
was like, I know the answer to this?
How hot is fire?
I hope not.
What the fuck?
I wrote my answer down because when I read this,
I immediately had a random number pop in
and I'm like, I'm going to go with that.
I feel like all three of us are going to say the same number.
You think?
I don't know.
I'll see.
Now I'm going to change my number.
Okay.
Three, two, one.
$8.
$2.25.
$2.20?
I said $2.75.
How?
Craig, or Hafe had said 800 something?
I said 800 because that's the pizza oven company that LeBron has.
Yeah, that's probably,
and that was the only reference.
Yeah, that is supposed to be like an incredibly hot pizza though, right?
That's like, it's like ridiculously hot.
Is that?
I didn't know that part.
I think.
Okay.
All right, so what's the cigar?
I mean, think about like you can bake a pizza at 300, 350 or 400, like if you really wanted to, right?
It would not be good, but you could.
It would suck, but you could.
Yeah.
But, like, that's in the oven, though.
But is that the fire of the oven?
Or if you touch the hottest part of the oven, it's hotter than that.
Yeah.
Because when you make pizza at home, it's like, what, $450, $500 is how hot you would go?
Right?
Oh, my God.
I've never felt bummer.
It's like a thousand.
1,650 degrees.
Oh.
165, 1,600 degrees is the type of a cigar.
Okay.
That's hot.
That's dangerous.
Double the pizza oven.
I was unfamiliar with your game, fire.
Dude, fire is hot.
This is like a stupid question, but can fire be like a lot of different temperatures?
Or is it just one temperature?
That's such a dumb question.
Hold on, I'm going to Google that now.
I will say, yeah, we should put that out as a book.
It can be different temperatures, it seems.
I mean, definitely can be different temperatures.
Also, it says you can bake a pizza at 400 degrees if you wanted to.
How hot is fire?
there's a lot of, there's a lot of answers.
You can do fire temperature by color.
Oh yeah, right.
By the color.
This is, I feel like you learn.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Red is six.
Red is 1100 to 1,800 Fahrenheit.
Orange to yellow is around 2,000 Fahrenheit.
White is 2,400 to 27 Fahrenheit.
We went way too low.
My brother was a firefighter.
He will listen to this episode and he's going to be really mad.
But we're recording this too late.
He's definitely asleep.
I can ask, I ask my brother about fire.
Candle flame.
1,100 to 2,500 Fahrenheit, wood fire, 2,000.
God, dude, there's a lot of variation.
Fire, all right.
The only thing that's constant here is Craig and I were way, way, way, way, way too low.
Because went to the boiling point of water.
I was like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Fire's hot is the lessen here.
Fire's hot right now.
So hot right now.
Fire.
1,600 a fucking cigar.
You're just waving that thing around?
Okay.
Putting it in your mouth?
So I win.
I'm not 2 and 0 right now.
I guess,
So I'm taking Parker Washington,
which is a little...
You know what's crazy about that? Hold on.
Boiling temperature of water is two, what?
10.
220.
220?
Boiling water is fucking hot.
If you put boiling water on your hand,
it would be...
It's 212, by the way.
212.
It would be extremely painful.
And yet a cigar is eight times that.
If you were to put a cigar into your hand,
that's eight times worse hotter than boiling water.
That feels wrong to me.
It does feel wrong.
That does feel wrong.
I see what you're saying.
I think specifically it's just like every discussion on the internet.
It feels wrong.
Therefore, I think it's no.
It can be eight times hotter than boiling water.
Something I don't understand feels wrong.
So therefore, maybe they're wrong.
Is it really 1600 degrees?
If somebody was like, hey, would you rather pour boiling water on your hand or put a cigar into your hand?
I'd think about it.
Like, I don't think there's an obvious answer to that.
No, because if you pour boiling water on you, it will, you will get a, like, a,
burn. If someone puts a cigarette out on you, it is there for years. Yeah, but yeah, I guess it,
but if, like, if you just like a stamp, if it's a stamp versus boiling water, which would you pick?
Well, the size, but that's kind of the point. Yeah. I don't know. I guess in my head to me,
the cigar is not eight times hotter than the one. Now I'm, see, now we're back to how hot is fire.
Okay, Craig, I did do, I did do a little more research. Just now in the last 30 seconds. Yeah, which is kind of,
It's confirming a little bit like your, I guess, like, uncertainty about this.
And again, the tip of a cigar can vary dramatically, according to the AI overview here.
Peak temperature can go over 1,000, so like 1,800 Fahrenheit.
That seems in...
The temperature fluctuates.
Craig is right.
It changes dramatically during a puff with variations between 200 and 300 Celsius.
So, like, 400, whatever.
Craig's right. This has to be a wrong answer. Here's why. When you smoke a cigar and you get down, there's no way that when you're holding the cigar, it's 1500 degrees in your hand. That's fucking crazy. How are we even entertaining this? Imagine holding the cup of boiling water. How hot that is?
What's the highest setting an oven goes to? You clean it like 500, right? It's like 600 maybe 600 degrees when you clean an oven.
Yes.
They lock that shit because you can't even open.
open it because you'll fucking hurt yourself.
The idea that you would be holding
1,600 degrees, near your fingers
is ridiculous. I read this wrong.
There's variations of
200 to 300 Celsius. So like
it varies by 400 or something
like that. This is a great reminder.
It's still quite hot. It's a great reminder for
people to include the fact checks
to your answers because this is what happens when I got
all worried about you guys fucking thinking I'm cheating
is I don't actually
lock down on whether people have fact
check these answers. Bottom line,
We were wrong.
Craig.
Anyway, I won the point, though.
So, anyway, Parker Washington.
I get him.
So who's second?
Two, I don't know.
Craig, the DK said 275, I think.
Yeah, so DK's second.
So you want Christian Watson or Pierce?
I feel like I bullied you out of Alec Pierce and he's going to have 150 yards and two touchdowns.
So you should just take him.
I'll take Alec Pierce.
Wait, great.
I'll get Christian Watson for being a moron.
I feel like we all liked all these guys.
Yeah.
I think this is good.
I think all these guys have huge potential this week and the rest of
the season and they're actually real-life talented.
I have multiple times, there's always a funnier intrusive thought,
but I have multiple times just had an intrusive thought
the Parker Washington's the best receiver in the Jaguars.
I've thought that multiple times watching these games this season.
But Alec Pierce also just has this, like, very unique role in Indianapolis where he's,
I just, it's shocking, he doesn't have a touchdown yet this season.
And they'll probably have one this week.
So I actually feel good about these.
And again, if Jacoby Myers is traded from Denver, Troy Tucker is absolutely worth an ad.
So there's good receivers.
Hold on. Do we want to mention any other guys like Torrey Horton in case Cooper Cup gets,
stays hurt. I think it's a good ad. He's going to get old Yellard.
Well, I think Cup will still play, but there's a potential Tori Horton could see more time.
DeMario Douglas and or Kyle Williams on the Patriots, if Kishon Booty misses time, which he probably will.
I think Kyle Williams sucks, and I don't think you should add him. I think if Pop Douglas is there,
he's talented. Kyle Williams has been bad.
I can drive by on Kyle Williams.
he's been he's been the worst they're gonna trade for receiver because he hasn't
booty in the ex receiver is actually talented and able to make
I don't know I have no what are you judging this he sucks on
he's made you go to practice what does he suck on hyphids
by what metrics are you judging that he sucks
or what evidence do you have organically walked in the sucks on booty
can't believe that I think well I don't mean sucks I mean it was a good prospect
you like him coming in I just
he's had no impact on Patriots games this year
and he's just never on the same page.
He's just never doing the right thing on the field.
And he just had made very little impact to me this season,
even though Drake May is playing an unbelievable level.
And so...
Right.
You heard of for Hyvitz, don't take Kyle Williams.
That's probably me that you should get Kyle Williams.
And Camere D.K is like, for the Titans is there.
I'm like, I don't want these guys.
Washington, all these guys are dead to me now.
Marcus Marriott is going to play instead of Jane Daniels.
Luke McCaffer's hurt.
I don't want any of these corpses in Washington.
Like, I don't know.
I'm going to stay well.
I'd rather have good guys and good teams.
I'm kind of want to, I don't want to even like, you know, T. Higgins that are literally in the red zone.
Yes.
Go to, yeah, teams in the red zone.
Okay.
Tight ends.
Not a bad week for tight ends.
I think it's actually a pretty good week for tight ends.
Colston Loveland for the Bears, who had his big breakout game.
And I think importantly here, he was playing ahead of Cole Komet, even before
Komet went out with a concussion.
I mean, I would assume Kemet misses at least one more game.
The bears get the Giants next.
But this could be, I think you have to take the chance and grab him if you can.
In the case of this is like his breakout performance, and then he continues to, you know,
be one of the focal points of their offense.
I first I put Loveland first in Harold Fanon on the Brown second.
And then I switch and I put Fanon first and Loveland second.
And I'm going back and forth because Lovelin is still a rookie town.
end and if Kemet comes back and all these pieces, I just don't know. I think Fannin is much more
the centerpiece of the offense. The Browns could trade in Joku tomorrow. And then Fanon is really
the centerpiece of the offense. However, then I'd be betting on Dylan Gabriel and whatever the
hell the Brown's offense is versus the Bears and Ben Johnson and how they continue to get better.
So it's very, very tricky for me. Where are you leaning?
Everything you just said, I feel I totally co-signed it. The same thing. I almost wish,
David and Joku would get traded because then it's like Harold Fanon, it is so much clearly
the right answer here. But I agree, Craig, with everything you just said. I think the short answer
is like they're both kind of betting on rookie tight ends with unusually good receiving profiles.
Loveland because he was taking really high and just had an awesome game and fanning because
he's just like a receiver who led every conceivable metric and dumb stats and advanced
stats in college. He's just a receiver who plays tight end. Harold Fanon is. So I will probably go with,
Like, again, if you tell me about this week,
I kind of think Harold Fannin, I mean, I don't really, I mean, again,
the fact that both these teams are going against New York teams, I think is really funny.
I kind of think Harold Fadden probably matches up a little better against the Jets.
But again, it's like, would you rather have the kind of number one option on a bad offense
or like the number three offense, the number three option on like above average offense?
I don't even know if the bears, you feel that way necessarily.
Well, I would say to answer that, in fantasy typically a tight-e-eat-eat-e,
end to reach really high levels in fantasy, they need to be the number one or number two option.
That is usually what you're looking for when you want a strong fantasy tight end.
Part of me just thinks that frankly, part of me just, I would probably lean Harold Fanon
for the simple reason that he was able to contribute so early that there is a chance to me
that coming out of Cleveland's buy that he just has this like bump as a receiver and that
Colts to level it while he was awesome. He has had exactly one game of impact against the worst
defense in the NFL and he has 27 points last week. Half of those were basically had one play
where it was a total fluke touchdown. And if Colson Loveland had nearly had 14 points, we'd probably
say he was like second to Fanon. I'll go with FAA. But it's totally like dealer's choice.
Like I'm, we can barely make up our minds. But I'll say Harold Fanon, but frankly, they're
both crazy talented and way better than usual waiver wire picks and we tend to 10 is the real point.
I'll go Fanon as well. I like Fanon. All right.
You want to love Lovlin or Fannin?
Well, I'll, we can do the trivia on a Fannin.
Okay.
But you can, you're allowed to take Loveland.
Just, let's just do this.
Let's do this trivia.
All right.
Guy loves trivia.
Let's do it.
Let's do it.
Herald Fanon Jr.
Showdown time.
This email's from Luke.
Luke.
Elbone.
It's a little long.
No, Luke.
I am your father.
You guys seen that movie?
Does that,
God damn.
That was really accurate.
Took me right back to that scene.
Also, didn't they, don't he?
Doesn't he never actually say,
Luke I am your father?
He says, no, I am your father.
Yeah, the Luke I am your father is not actually in line.
Funny.
Anyway.
Yeah, I have, they should just fix them.
I've seen that movie.
Luke's breakfast with sausage egg and cheese biscuits,
slice of pepperoni, sausage pizza,
24-ounce sugar-free monster, athletic, free,
wavy, hazy, IPA, non-alcoholic.
What the fuck?
I kind of just skipped over that part.
That's insane.
Wait, he had all that.
Can you read that again?
Sausage egg and cheese biscuit.
Slice of pepperoni and sausage pizza.
Okay.
I'm worried about you.
24-round sugar-free monster.
And then an athletic freeway of hazy IPA non-alcoholic.
That's kind of wild.
He had an athletic beer for breakfast.
Whoa.
I haven't heard of that before.
This is why we do this.
This is why we get the breakfast.
What are you talking about?
What are you doing a non-alcoholic?
free wave hazy IPA in the
fucking morning with a slice of
pizza and a sausage chicken cheese on a biscuit.
I kind of
maybe that's like his Monday morning move
he's like I still want it to be the weekend in my
head. So.
This sounds like a bachelor party.
I don't understand this.
Sausid chicken cheese.
Just everything in the fridge. Oh my god.
What the fuck? I've never heard that.
He's drinking an athletic
N-A beer in the morning. I can't tell him
that's a problem or not. I'm like I get
That's cool.
I don't know.
Like, is he doing a good job or is this, like, concerning?
When those athletic brewing people started making free wave, hazy, non-alcoholic IPAs,
do you think anyone was like, we should sell this for breakfast?
They're like, no, you morons.
Nobody's going to have this for breakfast.
Well, he's just having pizza and beer for breakfast.
He's just and beer.
Don't forget the sausage and cheese.
And a monster.
Sugar-free, Craig.
Sugar-free monster.
24-out-out.
That's a big boy.
He's insane.
Oh, my God.
Luke, you're a psychopath.
Oh, my God.
Anyway.
It's like Danny McBride and fucking
What's the what this is the end?
Yeah making the breakfast
The whole fucking spread
Wild anyway so Luke writes
I've long thought so he's talking about how
We always say there's SpongeBob millennials and DK succeed by the Bell
Millennials DK you're 42 right
43 43
Craig and I are 30
No you're 31 yeah so there you go 13 year 12 13 year age gap
So Luke writes I've always thought the pod needs a middle generation
and millennial do the niche
and finesse of some of the generational questions
because Luke says I'm 38
and the number of times I've screamed like
a ghost that I'm a boy meets
world millennial.
I want to let me. Damn it.
And Luke says that there are multiple times
we've talked about something that actually threads the needle
that neither of us understand. And Luke says
they bring this up because it happened again this week
with the discussion about textbook covers.
Because D.K. says he's never heard of them.
I was like, I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about.
I saw a picture of it on the no-context ringer fantasy football show
Instagram and I still didn't know what they were.
I mean,
I understand what they are,
but I'd never seen those before.
So Luke was mad that DK never heard of him.
Craig was,
Luke was mad that Craig and I bought them.
Luke says,
me and all the other boy meets world millennials,
we made our own.
He says,
that's right.
Yeah, we did too.
We used paper.
Oh, yes.
People used to make,
I remember people making the paper ones.
Yeah.
I feel like you do know what we were talking about
No I just didn't know I didn't know what the
Specchy elastic thing you guys were talking about I didn't do those
And also I did I watched poymies world like Topanga was a legend
Yeah, you didn't fucking Cori and Topanga
I can still think of the theme song in that show great show
Mr. Feeney what what generation do you think watched
Is Mr. Feeney the guy in Piki Blinders?
I don't know
Don't think so no way those have to be
different people.
Which one are you thinking?
No, super different people.
No, he just looks like him.
Which guy in Piki blinders are you thinking of?
Inspector Campbell is super different people.
No, no, no, no.
That's the guy for, he's the guy from Jurassic Park.
Um, one time.
Who?
You're lying?
That's not true.
No, look up his fucking name.
I'm on there right now.
No, that's not true.
It's true.
Who is?
Are you talking about Inspector Campbell?
I'm trying to remember his name now.
Yeah.
his name is Sam O'Neill
Oh Sam O'Neill
Sorry Sam Neil
Sorry
Yes Sam Neil
Who was in
Jurassic Park
Who was like the cool
Hot friend?
I actually did not know this
This is blowing my mind
Who was like the cool hot friend
He's one of three brothers
In Boi Mets's Corey's best friend
You know what I'm talking about?
Well I'm blanking on his name
Don't remember that
Lawrence
Are the Lawrence brothers
is that them?
Maybe.
Come on.
Actually, now I can't remember the show well.
I guess I didn't watch you.
And his brother, Joey Lawrence and Andrew Lawrence.
You know those guys?
One time when I was like 8 in Hawaii, I ran into them at a hotel.
Do you say anything?
Yeah, I think I did.
I think I loved that show.
I might have been, I don't know how old it was,
eight, nine, 10 years old.
And I did say something to them.
Which was the guy?
Which one is the one that said, whoa in,
in
like, I think it was in Blossom.
I don't remember this show very well.
Matthew Lawrence was also in Miss Doubtfire.
He's one of the kids.
Joey Lawrence was like, whoa.
That was his catchphrase in Blossom.
You guys ever watch that show?
I did not.
I'm going to go ahead and finish the trivia.
Okay.
This is uninterested now.
Okay.
I mean, we've been on this email for quite a while.
Yeah, let's do it.
Luke writes,
how many calories was my brain?
No, I'm kidding.
Luke writes,
What is the cost $3,000?
Of the current soul-sucking cheapest single textbook cover on Walmart.com.
You know,
the whole thing about, like, how annoyed it is that these get sold and they don't get made and newspapers, but I'm not going to wait.
The cost of the cheapest text book cover?
How much is the cheapest textbook cover cost of the wall?
Are they sold in packs or is a single?
Single.
I'm surprised they do that.
Okay.
Well, it's Walmart.
I don't know.
They have every product imaginable.
Yeah.
We're all going to guess, like, between zero and $3.
I'm imagining.
I wrote down my answer when I saw this.
Okay.
3, 2, 1.
984.
I said $7.
How much could have been at a cost, Michael?
It would be probably more expensive than you.
The correct answer is $4.75, which actually...
What is it?
475, which I actually think I actually won, which is hilarious.
That's a rip-off.
I can make you one of those.
those for free.
So, I was, I was within $2.91.
What did you say?
I said, $184.
$1.84.
Yeah, I think I beat you.
What did you say?
I said seven bucks.
And then what was the price?
$4.75.
Are you to calculator app?
I am doing that.
$2.25.
What did I have?
Fuck, I forgot already.
Yours is $2.25.
All right.
Sorry.
One more time.
How much did it cost?
$4.75.
Let me get out my, let me get it out.
Let me get out my abacus.
D.K.
Or Hyvitz says he's 2.25 away.
2.91.
Fuck, I was farther away.
Okay.
Glad we got there.
Hyvitz with the sweet.
So now the trivice.
Did you know those without using a calculator?
You knew exactly how much it was?
Roughly.
What?
I was just trying to do the math.
Like, fuck off.
I guess I thought.
This is a fucking calculator brain over here.
Okay.
You won.
I got second.
I'm over here just slamming an athletic brewing
trying to get through this show
No, so now the trivia stands at
Hyvitz is at 10 after the clean sweep
I'm at 8, DKs at 7th
Damn, wow
Okay, so wait, who are you taking Hyvitz?
Fanon. I'm gonna take Harold Fanon.
Okay, I'll take the Loveland.
That sucks for me. I'll do
Nobody say a word.
We also didn't even mention, well...
This is my decision, hold on.
Okay.
That's my decision.
All right.
Don't tell me what I'm going to do with my pick.
Hmm.
I want Isaiah likely.
I want Isaiah likely on the Ravens.
Baltimore Ravens,
tight end.
Isaiah likely.
This is a big week because Tucker Kraft from the Packers
tour as ACL and he's out for the season.
And I think an interesting thing to keep an eye on is Luke Musgrave,
who was actually a tight end drafted higher than Luke Musgrave.
He was the second round pick.
Tucker Kraft was third.
Tucker Kraft, yeah.
But frankly, Tucker Kraft has become.
but more overall valuable tight end, obviously.
So I think the interesting thing is I feel like
Luke Musgrave is going to play for Grebeye Bay
because they're kind of running out of guys
because Dante Vicks has an injury
and Matthew Gold's got an injury
and Christian Watson's still on a snap count
and Tucker Kraft's confirmed out for the season.
But they have John Fitzpatrick
who's like the blocking tight end.
Luke Musgrave who's kind of the Kyle Pitts
like he's a tight end, but is he really?
If you can't block, are you a tight end?
Luke Musgraves seems like a receiver,
but also in fantasy, that's good,
but how much he's going to play.
So Luke Musgrave, that means the idea
of like a guy that
I would not be shocked at all
if Luke Musgrave is like a total
serious top 10 fantasy tight end
the rest of the way
and better than everyone we just talked about
better than Fan and better than Loveland.
I also think Luke Musgrave
could just not catch a pass next week,
straight up.
And so I think he's the biggest boom bust guy.
The idea of throwing Luke Musgrave
into your lineup like terrifies me.
I'm not even sure you could add Luke Musgrave.
I also think it's entirely possible
Luke Musgrave is the number one fantasy waiver
pick overall next week.
Yeah.
So it's weird.
So likely is like a way safer pick because likely has like a three-year track record of actually
being a great NFL player or not great but just looks like good to watch play football.
I know.
I feel like with tight end, it's not like running back.
It's like you can't just slot it in the backup and it's the same thing.
Well, really it gets distributed elsewhere.
Like I think that there's an argument when because there's, you know, when Tucker Kraft gets hurt,
it's kind of like that's kind of one of the reasons Christian Watson's probably better.
It's just there's more passes to grow around.
It's like running backs.
The only other guy I want to say is if you're in a deeper league,
A. G. Barner for the Seahawks.
He's not like a traditional
great profile of a tight end
against a lot of targets. But Donald's cooking
and honestly, Barner gets the tush push
for Seattle. He's doing that now.
Like Mark Andrews goes to the Ravens.
He scored a touchdown this week. Obviously
he can't count on that every week.
But all the tight ends we're talking about are just
like fucking lottery picks anyway.
The combo of the Seahawks are going to be in the red zone a lot.
Barners plays a lot.
And the fact that he's the tush push guy,
just means he's going to be on the field
for the goal line to threaten it.
I just, I don't know.
I'll take that however I can get it.
If you're in a deeper league
and you really,
all these guys were talking about are taken,
you could do worse than a guy
who might actually get a rushing touchdown.
Did we mention Dalton Schultz
for the Texans?
We didn't, and I think we didn't
because fucking Davis Mills
looks horrible.
But it's up to you.
I mean, Dalton Shultz are,
he did.
He has a ton of targets.
Dalton Shultz is totally serviceable
of your truly, truly, truly
truly out of options.
Like, if you have Tucker Kraft and you are fucked
and you don't have any options that all these people are talking about,
I could totally see Dalton Shultz over AJ Barner.
I just watched Davis Mills
against the Niners defense that's depleted
and he couldn't do anything.
But maybe with a week of practice, it'll be way better.
Anything else in tight ends?
No, I'm still thinking about his breakfast.
Can I read it one more time?
The athletic beer for breakfast is deranged.
Sausage chicken cheese and a slice.
a pepper and sausage pizza.
I think he was at a bachelor
party when I wrote this.
This is just what's in a fridge
at a bachelor party.
Can you look at Jimmy Dean and...
What was the day of the week
that he sent this email?
Oh, that's a good question.
Luke.
If it's Thursday to Sunday,
I can get behind it.
Monday.
Psycho.
What a stunt.
Oh my God.
Psycho, what a stud.
An 11-11.
Make a wish.
My God.
I wish for Luke's...
At 11-11 on a Monday.
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to feel about this. Okay.
Quarterbacks, obviously a lot of quarterback news this week. C. Ch. Stratocan
Cust, I feel like he won't play this week. Obviously, the big one's, Jaden Daniels with the elbow.
I know that happened while we were recording. I didn't actually see the play because I actually
had turned the game off. And yeah, it's horrific. They were saying Jadenal's might not be out for
the season or whatever. I sure. I mean, I actually think Washington fans would riot if you brought him back.
it doesn't matter. Marcus Bernardov's not going to play
for probably the rest of the season, we'll see.
They're claiming, they'll have more information
on Jan Daniels the rest of the year.
Did you see, sorry, the rest of this week,
did you see that, I kind of actually, we whiffed on this
because it happened live, that Robert Griffin III
also got her in his second season against Seattle.
And it was kind of like the same area of the field.
Which obviously it's different
because it's not the tourist fault, like it's his arm getting stuck,
is it the same as a knee?
Did you see that he didn't fracture anything?
Yes, he didn't fracture anything.
He dislocated it, right?
But I don't think that's the point.
No, no, I'm not saying he's fine now.
I'm just surprised at that.
That's true.
I think a dislocation, the fear, though, is not necessarily a fracture.
It's all the ligaments rip and tear.
Yeah, it's like when you dislocate your knee, they're not like your knee's broken.
They're like, oh, you have to go to the hospital because your fucking arteries might be severed.
I don't, I'm the sentence what happened with him.
Yeah.
Yeah, just the idea that it could go in that direction and nothing.
broke. No bones cracked.
He's the limber. He's the limber guy.
Anyway, so Marcus Mariotta, I think is a really, really, really ugly
quarterback that you could add and just like, don't, in the Trubisky.
Well, he's, he's an attractive man, but don't watch him play football.
He'll just get you 16 points with rushing, right?
I think he's the guy to add, like the Bengal. I mean, you can add Joe Flacco,
the number one quarterback on the last month, but he's on by.
It's like, I think you can have Flacco.
If Donald's available, Fields? Sure.
What do you think about McCarthy?
Are you guys adding McCarthy or are you not buying it?
McCarthy to me is kind of a matchup-based play.
Clearly, Baltimore, who I think is actually a little bit better right now
defensively than their numbers on like Yahoo would suggest.
So I don't know.
If Darnold's available, I'd take him first.
For sure.
If Mario is available, I would take him second.
And then...
And then...
Well, no, there's a problem.
Well, it's tough.
Flacco, if he's available, he could grab...
He's the number one quarterback.
That's four weeks.
the Bengals are going to be in the shootouts every week.
You can add Flacco.
I feel like he's probably taken, I don't know.
But Flacco is worth it.
If you need someone this week,
the problem is Justin Fields or Tarad Taylor.
Either one, I don't know he's going to start.
Aaron Glenn is making a game of it with the New York Media
about like who's going to play or not.
He literally, he literally is like,
it's so funny.
You guys keep asking,
keep giving me the same answer.
I don't know because part of me thinks
he's going to go with Fields
because they have the game winning game.
I don't know.
They got to.
I feel like they have to do.
But Tarad Taylor had a knee-ish.
shoe, that is what kept him out. So it would suck if he couldn't run, because honestly,
if you're the Jets and you can't run, he's not going to be good, but it was two weeks ago,
so he's probably fine if he's playing. But yeah, Fields is, if Justin Fields is the starter
again every week, Justin feels like he's going to get you five points or 25. So there are options
a quarterback, but it's weird because when the waivers go through, you might go and put a
claim in for Fields and then it's Toronto Taylor. So that's kind of odd. But I would say,
you know, Darnold, Mariotta, Jets guy.
McCarthy and then Flacco,
but he's in a different category
because he's on by.
Defenses, I think it's actually pretty simple.
Seattle is still not rostered as much as I would think.
I feel like Seattle has the top three defense in the NFL.
And they're kind of like half rostered
on certain Yahoo platforms.
I think that's just amazing to me.
I would just add Seattle.
You can have them all year.
The Browns are just super available
because they're on by.
They're good defense.
They're playing the Jets.
Justin Fields, Stroud Taylor.
Browns are super available.
I would go get Cleveland.
Buffalo, because they're playing Miami.
way healthier. I feel like just Buffalo just usually just really well against Tua.
And I know they didn't do amazingly this season, but Buffalo, like, they're getting
healthier. I would, I, I'm okay with Buffalo against Tua in Miami. And I would also say
Baltimore, which, again, seems yucky, but getting healthier and they're playing the Vikings.
And J.J. McCarthy, like, had some good throws. But overall, wasn't asked to do a ton.
And I do think the Ravens against the Vikings could be very lucrative with J.J. McCarthy.
So I think one of those teams available, Seattle, Cleveland,
Buffalo, Baltimore.
One of those teams are available.
So I would go with one of those four.
Any other thoughts and streamers for you guys?
Nope.
Okay.
Let me do a couple emails.
We'll get out of here.
Okay.
Great email from Gabriel.
Gabe.
G-bone.
So on the Sunday episode, I kind of had a whole rant about how socks, I just don't
know how to wear socks.
And I feel like I don't know, I just have no socks situation awareness.
And it started with Craig talking about how he puts his socks on before his pants.
Got a couple of tweets saying,
and they do that too, so I'm good.
The poll is kind of like 50-50.
There are dozens of us.
What is it really?
The poll's 50-50.
Yeah, D-K and I do pants and then socks.
You guys shamed me.
50-50.
That's shocking.
I think, you know what's funny though, Craig?
Everyone had the same reaction,
which is just complete shock that people do it any other way than the way they do it.
Just people can't believe that.
Yeah, that's wild because you're putting on your socks like when you're getting dressed.
We got 1,600 votes right now.
It's 56 in favor of putting.
socks on first, 5643.
That's amazing.
This is, I, that's just, that's crazy.
Join the dark side.
It's wild.
I just like, I don't put my socks on right away.
Like, I'm walking around my house for a while with no socks on.
It's bizarre.
You put your socks on.
If you were, if you were getting out of the shower and then it was time to go get
dressed to go out.
Pants.
Pants.
Try socks next time.
And then because like my shoes are in a different room.
I'm like, I get my socks.
I go get my shoes and then I put them on at the same time.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah.
What do you do?
I just think it's wild.
My socks are not in the same room as my shoes.
56.
More people are putting in the same room with your shoes, DK.
What?
Are your socks in the same room as your shoes?
No.
I know what D.K. means, though.
Yeah.
Well, anyway.
So this is from Gabriel.
That's wild.
Breakfast.
So this is a quote.
He says, my breakfast is Celsius and a vape.
I know.
Leave me alone.
It's not even in the top 20.
20 things I need to change.
I'm not even going to say it, but you know.
I want Celsius to sponsor a segment,
and we have to scream the whole segment.
Yeah. That's the bit. We just yell
the whole segment. I love that he literally
wrote, it's not even in the top 20 things I need to change about my life
from starting his day with the Celsius in Babe.
Okay. Okay. So Gabriel writes,
I was today years old when I realized there are people in the world that put their
pants on before their socks. That is psychotic.
Simply put, it's easier to touch your feet when you're not wearing pants.
Hell yeah.
Preach, Gabe.
All right, why don't you fucking stretch?
I don't know.
Anyway.
Just picturing people
walk around with those like socks suspenders,
you know,
the things back in the day
that would like hold your socks up.
See, those?
Every time I wear a suit,
I totally wish I had those.
Oh, the suspenders?
No, the socks suspenders
where they hold your socks up
so they don't fall down.
I completely understand why those exist.
What's a socks suspender?
Highfits doesn't know anything about socks.
That's true.
Google socks.
suspender.
It's like what you,
I feel like it, you, you like,
and it's like old movie characters.
Yeah.
Yeah. But I get it.
Like, isn't this like,
they're the, they're the least
sexy thing I've ever seen in my life.
What is this?
Uh, yeah, they,
you just pin them around your,
your shin to keep your socks
from falling down throughout the day.
I really don't know anything about socks.
As a woman,
let's,
let's hear from the women of the listening,
audience here, which are probably like six or seven,
email in and let us know. If you saw,
if you were like going to hang out with a guy and
he took his pants on and he was wearing that,
how quickly do you leave? The answer to that question is just
always, are they hot? Yes. When hot people do it, it's cool.
If Jacob Alluredy was caught in those, they'd probably become incredibly
popular. Yeah.
So, these things are so. We'll get Craig's from socks,
spenders. Anyway, so,
So Gabriel writes,
I think Heifitz's sock rules meltdown
is perhaps the most unhinged crash out
in the history of the show.
You clearly haven't been listening for very long, dude.
And Gabe Wright said,
I feel compelled to release Heifitz
from this panic prison he's built for himself.
Ooh, did he build a rubric here?
Well, Gabriel writes,
I am not a fashion expert.
I am simply a stylish bisexual man.
And this is tailored specifically to Danny Heifitz.
Nice.
Rule number one,
long pants and or boots.
If people aren't going to see your socks,
doesn't matter one bit.
Okay.
This guy assumes my pants
in the right length,
which right there, you know?
Well, you have to factor in that
when you sit down,
sometimes your socks are exposed.
Yes, as I have learned over the years.
So, Gabriel writes,
rule number two, color matching,
light with light, dark with dark,
black only with black shoes.
Okay.
I'm like okay.
Rule number three, socks as an accessory.
Here's the one upgrade you did to make
to your wardrobe that's really going to open
things up for you.
Cute, colorful, patterned,
socks white and black, not nearly enough variety in your sock drawer. Fun socks always work.
As long as they have at least one common color with the rest of the outfit, they're perfect for a blue suit,
brown shoes combo. I do have fun socks. Yeah. I have worn fun socks to the live shows.
I think fun socks actually work more with a suit than they do with regular clothing.
I think that's true. So Gabriel finishes this with fun socks. We're also a great conversation starter.
and we know High Fitz loves the conversation.
So go nuts.
Have fun with it.
High Fitz take literally any woman or gay man with you to a target.
Drop 30 bucks on fun socks.
You won't regret it.
Yeah.
I have a sock brand that I'm in love with,
but I want to get them to sponsor the show,
so I'm not even going to say the name.
But if you say the name, maybe they'll sponsor the show.
Should I be sure to say the name?
Yeah.
Stance.
They make the best fucking socks.
Stance?
Oh, they're the best.
Who is stance?
What's so good about them?
They are just the most comfortable socks.
They last forever.
Their athletic socks are phenomenal.
Their regular socks are phenomenal.
I love Stan's socks.
They used to be like this official sock of the NBA.
I don't know if they still are.
They're the official sock of the MLB right now.
MLB?
Yes.
Phenomenal socks.
You know, the NBA is how I got in this mess.
Nominal socks.
I think my crisis of confidence started two years ago and John Wall,
John Wall gave some random interview talking about how I think he was like,
I think people who, I can't remember exactly what he said.
He basically was like people who wear socks and shoes that are different colors
should be shot.
He didn't actually say that.
But I heard him say, he's like, I literally think people are crazy if your socks don't
match your shoes.
And I just, I think I actually haven't been.
I've had the yips ever since then.
I'm on this site right now.
There's kind of fun socks on it.
They're not cheap.
But let me tell you, they will last you four times longer than whatever cheap socks you
buy.
So it'll end up being worth your money.
See, right yet, there's so many.
lengths. Oh my God. What is the midcaf for? Okay. Let's calm down.
What length do I get? Gabriel again? Is it Gabriel? How tall do they go? Just email
Gabriel. I'm going to email. Gabriel. I'm going to email. I'm going to fucking said Gabriel's this
goddamn site. I couldn't remember. Gabriel, go to wide open, it's wide open socks.com.
Take this offline with Gabriel. I'm telling you. We don't need to. Sidebar with Gabe. Yeah.
There's so many, there's heights. What are these four? Gabriel. Hi, Fitz is
going to call you at home.
And then Gabriel,
please provide us with your phone number.
Let's go to Target.
It's just like, there's so many lengths.
There are.
Which do I want?
Just pick one.
That's been the problem.
It shows you how high up on your leg they go.
I don't know which one is appropriate.
Just pick one.
That's been the problem, D.K.,
just pick one.
And then people are like, those are wrong.
You've had a girlfriend.
for a long time. What does she say?
Fianza, she's just like...
Sorry, I'm saying. You've had a partner for a long time. What does she say?
She's overwhelmed by this.
Can she not advise you on your socks?
She's supportive.
Okay. What does that mean? She's understanding.
What are you talking about?
She agrees. Like, this is a cry for help.
She's like, yeah, you need help.
Why doesn't she every time you get dress to wear those?
She's not good. She's not holding his hand when he gets
dressed. She's decided that she's going to help me with my sock crisis.
She's going to take the wheel. Crisis. Gabriel and her, I sent to see him to her. She was like,
this is pretty great. I agree actually with Gabriel now. This is the most unhinged thing you've
ever done. It sucks. I know. I can't spend my time on this anymore. Just pick one. On the scale
of like insignificant. Which color? Because they have to match your pants. I don't care. It doesn't
matter. Just pick one. You're thinking about it too much.
You're doing too much.
I get why Jim Harbaugh is sick closing.
You can wear less.
You can wear white socks like 90% of the time.
You'll be fine.
Yeah.
You just got to do less.
Yeah, I don't care what John Wall thinks.
Fuck you, John Wall.
Yeah.
He might be listening too.
John Wall, you fucked me up with the socks.
Can match my shoes.
What the fuck?
Why can't you just match your socks with your shoes?
Because you're supposed to match it with your pants.
That's what someone else emailed in.
And I'm like, you have to factor in both.
Do you guys think that a single professional athlete
has ever listened to one second of our show.
By accident, for sure.
For sure.
I'm not talking about Instagram.
I'm saying hit play on like Apple or Spotify or YouTube.
I think certain athletes that we have shit talked have been sent segments of us talking shit.
For sure.
We about to talk shit.
But I'm sure like active players.
I don't know.
Anyone who's played professional sports.
Honestly, if Otani was listening, that'd be great.
Not Otani, probably.
Since he speaks English.
Anyway, one more email here.
Let me get out of here.
Well, actually, maybe we just ended the socks.
It could be this one tomorrow.
We have to have a pallet cleanser.
Come on, do we one more.
All right, fine.
This is a great update on just the general,
like, hooking up stories we've been doing
for the last couple weeks.
Okay.
This is from, I'm going to,
the guy didn't redact his name.
I was like, I'm going to redact your name for you, buddy.
You know who you will.
So this is like 1996, this story.
Pre-internet, this is essential.
Email is like 22, 23 years old.
He's work in New York City.
At the time?
Yes.
Yeah, sorry, yeah.
Yes.
22 in 1996.
He would be quite young.
He would be zero then.
Now like 50 years old.
Craig, do you want to get my fucking calculator again?
All right?
Quite young.
You'd be quite young in 1996.
So, yeah.
So email is, I'm out in East Village.
with coworkers. I meet someone.
Place is dark, filled with smoke.
She and I, we hit it off.
Eventually, the co-workers are ready to move.
So I told her I'm leaving.
She says she would come along.
We'd go to the next spot.
Back to someone's house, nightcap.
Eventually, she comes back to my place with me.
We hook up. And he literally writes,
by hook up, I mean, we have sex.
Like, congrats.
Congrats on the sex.
And he's like, I'm 22 years old.
And let me tell you, this woman rocked my world.
And it wasn't my first.
experience ever, but at the time it was
absolutely my best experience ever.
And it's probably still like
a top five sexual experience for me.
He's like, anyway, love the show.
Where's this going?
Well, there's a reason I'm reading it. I know
it's a little. He says, she tells me I have
potential, which I think is a little funny or weird.
And she's, so we hook up on
and off for like several months.
And it was quite, it was pretty casual.
and he says she taught me a lot
which made sense because I figured she was like
35. Oh, okay.
So late one Friday night,
he says my parameder. He didn't ever find out how old
she was? Well, he says late one night.
Oh. My paramour comes over.
We hook up. She's in the kitchen
the next morning. I know.
My fuck, buddy.
Yeah. She's in the kitchen the next morning
and she sees this Polaroid
picture on my fridge or on the table.
And it's like the Polaroids of my sister
and step siblings.
And she says,
Oh, no.
Picks up.
She's like, what is this photo?
Oh.
And I'm like, is this my sister and our step siblings?
She's like, are their names?
And then gets the names right.
And he's like, what the fuck?
How do you know their names?
She's like, these are my kids.
What?
Oh.
He was fucking his stepfather's ex-wife.
Wow.
So, wait.
So, not.
Nothing wrong with that, technically, right?
That related, not related.
Hold on here.
Just running a few calculations.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Get out of my calculator one more time.
Okay.
So, wait.
The children, so this woman's kids were like, they were young kids in a photo.
Yeah, yeah.
So his mom, divorced.
Yeah.
Marry's a guy.
Stepdad.
Stepdad has a previous family as well.
Right.
So all the stepchildren are like roughly the same age.
But he never ended.
up meeting their stepmom.
Like he never, it was like the internet,
like pre-internet never even saw a photo
of the stepmom.
Right, that makes sense.
Why would you?
So it's a step-siblings mom.
It's the, yeah, the step-sibling.
Yes.
Oh.
But he had a relationship with the step,
like, and he fucked her mom like a lot.
Like, did he live in the same house
with the step-siblings for an extended period of time?
No, they live with her.
I don't like you saying fucked her mom a lot.
Don't say that.
Have some decorum.
he made sweet, sweet love to their mom.
To the paramour.
Anyway, I thought this was unbelievable.
He dined him and dined him.
Oh, God.
Hell, that's okay.
That is wild.
So anyway, I didn't read this at the beginning of the email.
But the step siblings lived with the mom, so they didn't live together in the same house.
Not that it really matters, but that's just like.
No, no, no, no.
No, they did not.
But now I'll reach you the beginning because I thought it would be.
too spoiled. But the beginning of this was
I can't believe I'm going to reveal this to
your listeners, but
I'm going to come clean to something I've
told nobody.
He's never told anyone this.
And I think he was like actually
pretty excited, because this is a 30 years ago.
And he was like, I'm actually pretty excited
to like finally share this and get this off my chest.
And he says, you have full permission to tell the story. I am redacting his name.
He was like, say my name. It's 30 years ago. I'm like, I'm not going to say
your name. He wants you to say his name.
He does. Say it.
It's really unique.
Well,
okay.
It's 30 years ago.
He told you to say it.
Why are you redacting it?
Let me just double check.
He said read my name.
I don't think you need to,
you don't need to protect.
He knows what he's doing.
So wait.
It's called him.
His mom's,
B-bone.
It's his mom's boyfriend's ex-wife.
His mom's,
no, his mom's husband's husband.
Not his father's ex-wife.
His stepfather's ex-wife.
his stepfather's ex-wife.
Did they enter, how did that go?
Was that discovered in the family?
Did he have a conversation with the stepdad?
Like, hey, I see why you married, Cindy.
What a firecracker.
Like, how did that go?
I'm glad you have.
Craig, have some decorum.
Firecrackers.
I don't know.
I'm glad you asked that question, Craig.
He said, as soon as, again,
she's holding a photo of her kids.
And she's like, oh, my God, these are your step kids,
your step brothers and sisters.
He says, I think I went into a,
coma when she said this.
What does she do?
He says, I literally don't remember anything else.
I kind of came to and she was just gone and I literally never saw her again.
Wow.
And then he never told anyone about this ever.
She chloroformed him and left.
Yeah.
I guess that's fair that he said no one.
I never told anyone about this until this show right now 30 years ago.
He kept that to himself?
Yes, he says he's never told anyone this.
Wow.
Not even like an incredible restraint.
Why are you telling us?
Because he's clearly been weighing on it.
Just wanted to get it off his chest.
You didn't do anything wrong.
No, I don't think so either.
No.
It's definitely just like kind of an awkward thing
with your step siblings.
It's unbelievable bad luck, but nothing wrong.
Well, he had a good time.
But yeah, no, it's pretty insane.
I mean, think about the things that she taught him.
And her lifetime of lessons.
God.
They know the same moods now.
Oh, God, Craig, don't do that.
Oh, no, don't make that connection, Craig.
Right.
Yeah.
See, can you imagine this after?
Because it's the key, it's not one time.
It's like several months.
And she's like, who are these?
How do you know my children?
So this woman must have been significantly younger.
Oh, oh, not 30.
She was 45.
He was wrong with the age.
She was old.
Oh, she was 45.
He was, yeah, he's 22-year-olds.
Don't know how old people fucking are.
He thought, like, oh, he's the same way.
Ask a 22-year-old at work.
You're like, how old do you think I am?
Like, you won't like.
the answer.
Like, they can't get anything right.
I guess so.
22-year-old.
People, like, it's like,
they don't know how old people are.
Craig just. I'm like, I guess.
Like, if I went to Kai and I was like, how old is Sean
fantasy? It's Kai going to be like, oh, 64.
I don't know.
I don't know. Well, he was wrong.
He's the point. I don't know. It was dark. I don't know.
Yeah, I guess. Well, it's dark. They hooked up for months.
Yeah.
That's a great story.
That is a phenomenal.
an all-time email right there.
Yeah.
Shout up B-bone.
Man.
Okay.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you, Greg.
Wait, before we go, I want to shout out.
We just put up our rewatchables on Monday night with Glenn Powell.
Yeah.
We did the Truman show with Glenn Powell.
And it was great.
He honestly crushed it.
He's the best celebrity guest we've ever had.
So go listen to that.
Boomtown.
That's not even a shameless plug.
When I asked how it went, you said,
best celebrity guest we've ever had.
That was your actual reaction.
He was clearly prepared.
We had heard that he had listened to the show before that he was a fan of the show.
He was not lying.
He knew all the categories,
had like a full dock of notes.
Did he know what Apex Mountain was?
Yeah, I mean, as best as anyone can, yeah.
That's sick.
That's, he's in on the bit.
Yeah.
Like, he was like throwing out the jargon.
He's like, oh, my Dian waiters is this guy.
Joey Pants?
Oh, no, this is the Joey Pants.
It was great.
All right.
Well, there you go.
Glad Powell, rewatchables.
Cool.
Thank you, DK.
Thank you, Kren.
Thank you to this guy for reading this email.
This email.
This incredible.
Thank you to Gabriel, who,
just is going to be my sock
consigliary going forward. I was going to email
this motherfucker from any store. I mean,
he doesn't know what he signed up for.
Thank you to that
maniac Luke. Is it Luke or Sean
drinking the athletic? Luke drinking the
the combination of
a sugar-free 24-ounce
of monster and an alcoholic-free
beer
at like 8 in the morning.
I feel like you kind of figured it out.
I can't tell if this guy's just mainlining
the secret his like
secrets to the universe or what?
Did Luke kind of discover
the secret sauce of the universe?
I feel like you did.
No sugar, no alcohol,
but you're crushing beers and monster or something like that?
What the fuck?
It's kind of on to love.
Pizza, yeah.
I tell people I don't drink alcohol and I don't have sugar.
What do you eat for breakfast?
He's on like a 9 a.m. Zoom call and he's like
cracking the athletic brewing.
He's like, so catch me up.
Where are we at?
Those numbers come in yet?
Thank you, Lauren.
Lord.
Thank you, Natasha Beddingfield.
Oh, my God, dude.
I think the wedding, was at this weekend, like, when that song comes on.
Unwritten?
Yeah, it's just, it's just, I think it's actually become borderline top 10,
maybe even a top five crowd pleaser for at least our specific age.
Really?
It's really up there for white people wedding songs.
Yeah, the white people, like gets white women going.
play, which is always like, if you ever
struggling what to play, if you have to DJ,
you just type it like songs that get white women excited.
It's just like, it always hits.
I agree. Mr. Brightside for men.
Brightside for men.
Yeah. Yeah.
Unwritten is Brightside for, for, for, also.
Craig, that was an homage to your boy, though.
Well, I was going to say to tie it all together. That song is featured
heavily in anyone but you, the Glenn Powell Rock Kong.
Is that why you did that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nice. What do you like about that movie?
Yeah, what do you like about the movie, D.K.
I mean, I think it's a fun rom-com.
A lot of really good-looking people that run around on the beach and whatnot.
That is true.
Craig, did you have any thoughts on City's Swedish Dress?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Glenn Powell.
Sal and I talked about it at length on the Friday Gambling show.
I thought it was really cool.
She has a Bob.
I like the haircut.
I think City Sweetie's haircut.
was a good look.
I think there's a better rom-com
that Glenn Powell has been
than anyone but you.
It's called Set It Up with him and Zoe Dutch.
That movie's a better rom-com,
I need to see that.
It's really good.
Set it up?
Set it up?
18?
I'm not letting us get off this.
I clicked on the Sydney-Sweeney Instagram
and I actually just looked through all my friends.
I was like, who liked this?
And I wanted, I actually,
and I just looked through it.
I was like, what friends do I know
that have liked this photo?
I will never understand why people like those photos.
You cannot explain it to me.
It doesn't make sense.
They like the attention?
From who?
They're friends?
I don't know.
So I'm going to throw someone under the bus and they have the power to remove this.
No, I can't because Carlos liked the photo.
And if he doesn't want that in the show, he can fucking delete it.
Oh, my God.
This is the greatest moment of my life.
Why?
I don't know why.
Why?
Is you going to see it?
What's the goal?
Because he liked it, Craig?
It's free to look at
Does Carlos dare want to come on right now
And explain himself
Carlos is going to delete that shit
This shit's not making the show
I genuinely have no idea
What you're talking about?
What?
What are you talking about?
Smart play, smart play.
Deny, deny, deny, deny.
The reason it took him so long to get here
is because he had to go unlike it.
Yeah, he had to go unlike it.
He had to go unlike it.
He's like, get rid of the paper trail.
The internet doesn't forget.
Hold on. Did I screenshot this? I think I did. Let's see here.
Which pick what which one are you talking about?
Sydney Smith. You ever heard of her? Yeah, I know. I follow her. I think. Yes, I do.
25 million followers.
So you're telling me there's a chance. Oh, I'm wrong. He does. It's definitely not Carlos.
You fall. You're wrong? He didn't like the photo? He follows her. Oh, hi Fitz.
There's a very big difference.
thought I had him
that was good
oh my god no I'm sorry
confused even better
Rick Johnson liked it
and you thought it was Carlos
you know because he
he follows her but yeah
you know brick Johnson might be in the same circles
for all we know Rick Johnson should
like brick Johnson should actually slide in
like that if anyone's gonna like that it's someone named
brick Johnson yeah brick Johnson
should in fact slide in that would be
smart all right Carlos I'm sorry to slander you
yeah Jesus
he left
he's got
he's unfollowing
I'm just trying to figure out
if I'm like
going to remove this conversation
from the bottom
oh my god
that's so funny
okay
all right well
wrong again
I Fitz confused
Brick Johnson
and Carlos
well no it's because I had the photo
and it was like
I confused
that the followed by tab
and the like tab
and I guess I'm a boomer
I wanted to believe.
All right.
Well, God, that was good.
Carlos is going to make me look like an idiot in this edit and every edit going forward.
He has that power.
He does.
All right.
Well, Natasha Benafield.
Yeah.
I guess we should do say now for when he edits that all out.
Right.
Right.
So check out, set it up, D.K., it's a good run.
Check out.
Set it up.
Great movie.
Lucy Lou, Tay Diggs, Zoe Dutch, who's great in it.
I'm in.
Wait, also, what's the thing he's promoting?
He's promoting Chad Powers?
What is he promoting?
No, he's promoting The Running Man,
which comes out in a couple weeks.
Nice.
It's an egg remake.
Remake of Ardenal Schwarzenegger, right?
It's a remake of the Schwarzenegger movie,
but it's based on a Stephen King book.
Apparently, the Schwarzenegger movie
is really not at all super close to the book,
but this movie apparently is much more authentic to the book.
Who else is in it?
Josh Brolin.
Oh, Edgar Wright.
Oh, this is the Edgar Wright movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, the Glenn Powell movie.
Michael Sarah?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Oh, wow.
Sean Hayes, Coleman, Domingo, Josh Brolin.
Damn, okay.
Yeah.
Here we go.
Check it out.
We're just doing SponCon.
Yeah.
All right, cool.
Goodbye, everyone.
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