The Ringer NFL Show - Brissett Dumps Dallas, Kyler’s Future, and Week 10 Waivers

Episode Date: November 4, 2025

The guys react to the 'Monday Night Football' game between the Cardinals and the Cowboys. Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 10. (00:00) Intro(02:04) ‘Monday N...ight Football’(16:06) RB waivers: Tank Bigsby, Blake Corum, Devin Singletary(30:24) WR waivers: Parker Washington, Alec Pierce, Christian Watson(47:54) TE waivers: Harold Fannin Jr., Colston Loveland, Isaiah Likely(01:04:25) QB waivers: Sam Darnold, Marcus Mariota, J.J. McCarthy(01:07:57) D/ST waivers: Seahawks, Browns, Bills(01:09:02) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Further. Find your kitchen dreams at IKEA.us/dreamkitchen. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hifat. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck, and we are going over all the players you should add. After week nine, entering week 10, we're also going to go over this really weird Cardinals Cowboys game. And also at the end, we got some crazy emails. They're worth it.
Starting point is 00:00:30 One guy named Luke has the most psychotic breakfast in the short history of breakfast on this show. I'm pretty concerned for his health, right, TK? I mean, it's the best and the worst. We also have a man who sexual exploits are so crazy. that we couldn't even read his name. Yes, we redacted someone who really wanted that. That is a hook right there. I love
Starting point is 00:00:49 that. So, well, we've got a great show for you tonight. Natasha Benningfield is here. So stick around. We'll be right back. Wait, hold on. Wait, while you're doing... My voice is correct. No, no, keep it. While you're doing the SNL thing, will you do the guy's voice, the intro voice guy that you're actually really good at? It turns out. Kristen Wigg!
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Starting point is 00:02:10 the game. And there is actually, I think, a lot to talk about. Cardinals win 2717. Craig, I feel like, did people even watch this game or what was going on YouTube TV and ESPN have this dispute?
Starting point is 00:02:18 And even we were trying to figure out, hey, how are we going to turn this thing on? Yeah, can I admit something embarrassing? So I have YouTube TV. I'm a paying customer. There is a dispute between YouTube and Disney
Starting point is 00:02:31 over carriage fee, so you couldn't watch the game. My building has cable. I couldn't figure out. I couldn't figure out how to get it to work. Oh. Couldn't figure it out Wait, what do you mean your building has cable?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Like my apartment building offers cable For free? Yes, for free. Basic cable. Do you have like a cable outlet in the wall somewhere That you plug a cable, actual cable into And then into your TV? I've been in my apartment for over two years When we first got in, there was cable
Starting point is 00:03:02 And we used it until we got YouTube TV set up And then since then I've only used YouTube TV. But it was free or you were paying for it And they just have the hookup for cable? what do you tell you it's free basic cable is free provided by like the HOA or it's like a part of the package of getting the apartment
Starting point is 00:03:19 but anyway the whole point is is that like there's three remotes I have like an Apple TV remote I have a Samsung remote and then I have the spectrum remote I couldn't figure it out so I was I had to stream the stupid game illegally because I guess I'm 100 years old so I was I was off the grid on some illegal site to watch
Starting point is 00:03:35 I had the same thing I had I had a certain kind of site up that it crashed. So I decided to pay the, it was five bucks for like Sling TV, day past, DK sent that. I was like,
Starting point is 00:03:51 what a boomer going to pay for this. And then I decided to, what a boomer. I know. And then I was like, so then I started, pulled that up on my laptop. And I,
Starting point is 00:04:01 for whatever reason now with the update to Mac, instead of just back in my day, put it, to HDMI to, just extend this display. It wanted to airplay the audio, but even though the thing was extended, it took me,
Starting point is 00:04:13 I missed the entire, where the Cowboys went through the Cardinals drive, like knife through butter. I couldn't hear or see it at the same time. Either hearing the plays or like watching, but I couldn't hear anything. And the whole time I'm just like fucking mad at airplay trying to get this game going.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And I also felt like an idiot. I got to say it was nice timing because I would probably say this was one of the more irrelevant Monday night football games to watch where it doesn't really matter if nobody had access. of this game because it was Cardinals, Cowboys. And for most of the game, the Cardinals just kicked the shit out of Dallas.
Starting point is 00:04:46 There was a moment there where it felt like Dallas was kind of building some momentum. Right. A brutal Giovante Williams fumble. Dak got sacked a bunch of times. And this game never was even within 10 points. The Giovante fumble was brutal mostly because whoever stripped the ball from him or recovered it then said really clearly on the microphone, Giovante's ass!
Starting point is 00:05:05 And they said it like three times. I did hear that. I got to say the microphone guy was cooking today. He was all over the place. I was catching everything. He was pointing that thing at everybody. The parabolic, like the giant... Yeah, the laser beam of sound
Starting point is 00:05:19 that he's just pointing at people. He was crushing it because I was hearing things picked up left and right. He was on his A game. I mean, also, frankly, the most entertaining part of the beginning of the game was that Stephen A. Smith was sitting next to Jerry Jones and did the real-life SpongeBob, all right, I'm going to head out when the Cowboys turned the ball over in the beginning of the game. And he just got up and left.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Also, speaking of that, so Jerry Jones, announced that they've already agreed upon a trade. And maybe two maybe one or two more, Craig. I think well, I think what happens, I assume, is that basically they wait, like sometimes instead of just calling us in Tuesday, they'll agree to it and they're like, all right, if no one involved gets hurt or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:55 But you're not supposed to say it, but he clearly is worried that people will stop paying attention to Dallas because he's talking again. What do you guys think the trade is? Do you want to guess right now? They'll probably get a trade for Kyler Murray because he's available. It's probably a pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:06:10 He said something along the lines of it's going to help us where we really need a lot of help, which is because they traded away their best player. Which is funny because Jerry Jones has also quoted this year saying no one player is going to change our team. It'd be funny if they said. Aikman was like, I think he should call, I think Jerry Jones should call the other team back and cancel it. Because one player is not going to make a big of difference. Like, damn. It would be funny if it was two firsts than Kenny Clark for Michael Parsons.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I wonder if they could pull that off. I know the Troy Eickman thing he really I love Troy when he just destroys the Cowboys it's really funny I mean Dallas we don't have to spend that much time on them they can't stop the run on defense they can't pressure the quarterback they can't cover and they can't tackle that's most of defense and then the offense has to be perfect and they come out today and they have two turnovers and downs they have two different they have two different the first again the first drive is awesome and they sum out and score then the next two drives
Starting point is 00:07:05 somehow both end on third and 17 and then they quietly have brandy and Aubrey try the field goal record that is like 26 hours old. And then the first half was over. And so when they're not perfect, like they come out and look like this. And so I think the way more interesting part is DK. I'm surprised actually how mainstream it has now become with, I mean, credit to Joe Buck and Troy talking about it all this whole second half of the Cardinals kind of seem like they are going to bench Kyler Murray for Jacob percent.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Soft bench. Soft. Yeah, it's a shadow benching here. Pretent he's still hurt, probably. No, I mean, Aikman was actually saying it as the game was ending. He's like, I don't think they can go back to Kyler Murray at this point. I think they shouldn't, and I don't think they will. And that's, yeah, that's a pretty strong statement.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And obviously he spent time with the team this week. Maybe he got some sort of insight information on that. But I mean, at the end of the day, the way that Brissette is playing, it doesn't really make sense for them to try and go back to Kyler right now. And it can just, like, extend this rehab a little bit longer and see how it goes. Keep riding Berset as long as he's playing well. And he played really well in this game. their offense is so different.
Starting point is 00:08:12 When he's back there, like he can pass from the pocket. He converted a couple really long third downs. You know, he's unlocked Trey McBride in the red zone, which is something that's been a huge problem for Kyler Murray his whole career. I think I saw,
Starting point is 00:08:25 I don't know what the status of exactly, but he had McBride now has, I think, four or three touchdowns. No, I took a photo of it because I thought it was amazing. Yeah, what was it? It was, Terry McBride, it's 10 straight games. with five catches,
Starting point is 00:08:40 which the only other tight ends to ever do that are just Tony Gonzalez and Travis Kelsey. Oh, the thing I was going to talk about was the touchdowns thing. He has like four touchdowns
Starting point is 00:08:48 with percent in like five games and in like 20 or 30 games with Kyler Murray, he had like three. Yeah, he famously had what, one last year? Yeah, similarly, Marvin Harrison, Jr.,
Starting point is 00:08:59 is one catch shy of his career high in a game like three minutes into the second quarter. And that's another thing, too. that's what I was talking to you guys about, I think, a couple weeks ago is just, like, Kyler is not a good fit for the type of receiver that Marvin Harrison is. And Brissette is because he throws-
Starting point is 00:09:18 Because Kyler can fit almost anywhere. Yeah. So I don't know. I really don't know what they do here. Obviously, you know, Kyler has a huge, huge contract. But that hasn't, you know, necessarily stopped teams from moving on for the crew. That doesn't matter. It's just if he's good or not.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And the reality is, Kyler said, every in the season, my knee is as healthy as it'll be. And now he's missing time. I just think that this is what happens with shorter guys. When, like, you have, again, I don't keep harpy on this, but I feel a little more vindicated when Tua literally says two weeks ago, I can't see over my offensive line. And he's six foot one.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And it's like, we never talk about six foot one, but the guy's six foot one and down. It's harder to see the middle of the field. It doesn't play on time. So you have to have superpowers to account for the fact of what D.K. just said that the rhythm of plays, it's like if you're not, you become functionally. like you become Kevin James and Hitch where it's like you have to stay in your strike zone.
Starting point is 00:10:13 You can't actually dance to every kind of song. Like you're just not able to play in rhythm for all the kinds of colors of the rainbow of all these different plays that they're calling. And then Jacoby Preset comes in and they're like, damn, he's not like more talented than Kyler Murray, but he can just run more versions. You can just play in rhythm. Yes, he can just play. You don't just do your job.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It's like if everything's working, like he can just keep the train moving. It doesn't have to be around him. when Kyler Murray is 24 and again had the athleticism of someone who's the ninth overall pick in the MLB draft and also the first in the NFL and he could just run around and extend every play by five seconds like Russell Wilson who could also do this in 2016 then that is better you're bringing more to the party than you are taking away when the athleticism starts to go you're just taking stuff away from the offense without the other worldly creation ability and then you're like holy shit Jacoby Preset's better than you actually It's been really strange. Yeah, unfortunately for Kyler, I don't think he's going to age well at all in the NFL. No. His size and his scrambling ability. I mean, he's already, I don't think people think of this about Kyler, but this is his seventh season.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Seventh season for Kyler Murray. He's been in the league a very, very long time. And I'm not sure how many more opportunities he's, I mean, he'll probably be a starter for another team next year if I had to guess. And he'll get one more crack at it. But like Kyler Murray at 33 years old, I'm not sure how that would look. I'm not sure how that would work. Eventually,
Starting point is 00:11:40 it'll kind of look like Russell Wilson a little. Kyler's a better throw of the football, probably. But I guess, and again, I don't want to bury Kyler. Like, obviously, he's really talented, he's really good. I think the flip side with Kyler is, it's weird that we're talking about this.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And this is kind of the two-a-thing too. It's not like people are in love with the intangibles. Like, we're still hearing stuff whispers about Kyler's, like, leadership and stuff. And it's like, that stuff doesn't fly if you're not good. Do you think Kyler and Bryce Young, who I would say Bryce Young has been fine. I don't know if like the ceiling is there for Bryce Young.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I feel like we all kind of know what he is. Do you think that the under six foot quarterback and under six foot quarterback will ever go first overall in the NFL draft ever again? No. Probably not. I don't think so either. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Even Baker Mayfield, it took five years for him to really look good. I mean, Caleb is not that much taller, though. This is the thing with Caleb. We joke about this, but the NFL draft, the GMs aren't that different than women on hinge, where it's like a guy's six foot flat. It's all we talk about. Caleb's 6-1.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It doesn't come up in the draft process. This is also Caleb Williams' issue. And that's not about him. It's like Aaron Rogers isn't that much tall. He's like 6-2, I guess. But like. But Kyler's like 5-9, right? 5-10, 5-10, yes.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. And so still, I mean, that's 3.4. into shorter than Caleb, which is a big deal. That's a lot, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, and again, watch Kyler come back. It'd be great. But overall, I mean, there's a reason there's Arizona, I mean, Arizona's, no offense, but like one of the more forgettable teams, generally speaking.
Starting point is 00:13:20 But, Kyler's tenure in Arizona is. If you're playing the Cardinals, if your team's playing the Cardinals, wouldn't you rather have Kyler, wouldn't you rather have them play Kyler than Brissette right now? Yeah, I mean, Brisset, he did give a lot of sacks in this game. Especially in the second half. I mean, Jadavia and Clowny really, I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:37 Arizona kept having six offensive linemen in this game, and they still couldn't block like Jadavian Clowny. There were a lot of, I mean, there were a couple, I mean, some of it isn't necessarily on percent.
Starting point is 00:13:45 There were a lot of just unblocked plays. Like, there was a lot of sloppiness from Arizona in this game. I do want to just before we move on, shout out, Arizona is some cool youth on this team. I am a believer in Will Johnson
Starting point is 00:13:55 a cornerback, the quarterback out of Michigan. I'm a believer in Walter Nolan, who I think got his first career sack tonight at Ole. He was a very touted guy entering college. But I don't care about them.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Callias Campbell ending this game. His motherfucker was born in 1982. Sorry, 1986. You were born. Right at the end there. He just ended the game with the two sacks and what Dallas infeasably could have still come back and won the game. Calais Campbell is literally the oldest defender in the NFL. And he genuinely could have retired before COVID and had a long NFL career.
Starting point is 00:14:26 And it is crazy that Callas Campbell is actually impacting Monday night football. Yeah, I love that guy. He's awesome. He did like the step back jumper after beginning that second sack. He was slowing down the hurry up. Like Dallas is trying to get to the line. He's like, I'm going to fucking celebrate this sack. It might be the last one he ever gets.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Yeah. So yeah, shout out Calais Camp. D.K., what were you? Does it, does Kaleas Camp give you hope? Because like even Kai the other day was lamenting that there are athletes like his age. Does it make you feel better that a guy's getting sacks that's basically your age? Yes. does.
Starting point is 00:15:03 How old is he? 39. Yeah. Man, that's wild. He turns 40. Oh, he just turned 39. Regardless, that's actually insane. Okay, anything else from this game before we move on here?
Starting point is 00:15:18 No, I would say back to back, the Sunday night into Monday night, one of the more, one of the more forgettable back-to-backs, I would say, of the NFL season. Yeah. Pretty ass. Cowboys suck. Okay. ass. Just like Javonte. We're going to keep rolling here, but first, this episode is brought to by IKEA when you're hosting on Game Day and it comes to cooking. You want a kitchen that everyone there will be a
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Starting point is 00:16:09 Week 10, baby, man. Week 10. Dude, the playoffs are just around the quarter. It's coming up to the house time now. Yeah, it is. Fantasy. It's like do or die. We're going to get into like, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:19 power hour over the coming weeks where you get to trade targets. I would recommend you go to your league settings and actually look and check what your trade deadline is and confirm you the commissioner because sometimes people are like, Oh, actually, I'm going to move it up a week or whatever. But, like, yeah, it's time to start.
Starting point is 00:16:31 If you're in first or second place, it's time to start thinking about, like, you know, oh, you're going to make the playoffs. Like, what is your week 15, 16, 17? Also, just the most basic of all, make sure your league has the playoffs set to week 15, 16, because the worst thing ever is when buys are in week 14 and someone started the playoffs that way because they didn't check or we get emails from people who are like, my commissioner didn't know that week 18, whatever. Just make sure the playoffs are just those three weeks.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Otherwise, it sucks. With that said, we're going through waivers. coming up here for week 10. We're going to go position by position. We're going to give our top pick at that position that we would try to play for this week or beyond. And if we pick the same guy, we're going to do a trivia tiebreaker. It's not that complicated.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I promise you'll figure it out. Email us at ringer fantasy football gmo.com. If you have trivia questions, they're getting good. The trivia questions have been, you guys have been on fire. Thank you for that. Make sure there are a number so we can go closest to the pin. Also email us your fantasy course for Power Hour. With that said, decent amount of injuries this week.
Starting point is 00:17:25 DK. Yeah. Starting at running back, who's your number one running back pick, you would play. If you had to play for someone for this week in week 10, I think we could have a whole separate
Starting point is 00:17:33 little mini category here for stashes for later. But if you had to play someone to get fantasy points in week 10, who would you pick up off waivers? Yucky, yucky. I don't like that question because none of these are really good options.
Starting point is 00:17:42 This is the nastiest week at running back, I think. I'm going to go out on a limb, I guess, and say Tank Bigsby for the Eagles. Just because good offense, they're going to give him position to score. We don't know yet what the sequence or what,
Starting point is 00:17:57 what Sequin's groin is looking like this week. Sorry, we all know what Sequin's groin looks like. I don't know. We don't know how healthy Sequin's going to be this week. They're going to be playing the Packers. It's a big game for both teams. Bigsville great in this last game. We know he has talent.
Starting point is 00:18:12 He's a good runner. And again, this is a good offense that will give him situations where he can score. So I guess I'm going to big people. We don't even know if he's going to play that much because Sequin could just play. Yeah, I mean, you could just probably, I mean, you have a whole other day before you to submit your waiver claim. So you can see it was reported that this Sequin groin injury does not appear to be serious and that if the game were closer or more important last week, he probably would have stayed in the game.
Starting point is 00:18:35 So, D.K., if you knew that Seekone was playing in Week 10, who would you pick instead? Well, the reason I just went with Biggsvies, because then I could do, we do the same thing with Dylan Sampson for the Browns, who if he, you know, goes in for Quinchon Juckins, who hurt his shoulder, Quintan Juckins back out of practice on Monday. We don't know yet what his status is going to be for the game, but he's, I, at least participating in practice. So that's a good sign. And then past that, honestly, like, there's nobody I feel confident about.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So to me, it was like, these are contingent picks. If the starters are hurt this year or this week, I should say, then we can definitely start them. But otherwise, you're just kind of getting guys that are in committees right now. So let's get two giant caveats out of the way. We're recording this Monday night. The NFL trade deadline is tomorrow. Yeah, that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So please give it a massive caveat to like, I mean, this is kind of a dumb example. If the Titans trade Tony Pollard, obviously Tosje Spears is the starter for the Titans. Even then he probably still sucks because the Titans' defense. The Titans' schedule sucks. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I was like... If something happened to Alvin Camara, I'm like, Devon Neal, it's like, the state sucks. I don't want these running backs on terrible teams. Those are ones we can predict. The obvious one is like Isaiah Davis for the Jets, where it's like, if Reeshall gets traded,
Starting point is 00:19:49 Isaiah Davis is the starter, Braylin Allen's injured. Even then, I'm like, Isaiah Davis is probably going to suck too. But the point being, if there's some running back backfield shift from a trade, that obviously changes the conversation. I don't think we can try to predict those right now.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Like, Isaiah, like, at this point, it's Tuesday, like, just you're going to see the deadlines and you'll submit the claims. To D.K.'s point, I actually think the argument for what D.K. is saying is actually that if you're going to just play whack-a-mole at running back, and you're basically just hoping to get a Tyler L.G. ask like 11 points because the backup running back scored a touchdown. You get lucky like Algier Voltring, Bejohn Robinson, or really Devin Singletary taking a goal line carry to the end zone instead of Tyrone Tracy.
Starting point is 00:20:35 I kind of think D.K. has a point in that if you take Bigsby, it's a roll of the dice. And if Sequin gets re-injured at any point in the next month and you have Tank Biggsby, you have tripped into like a top 15 running back every week's Seekwant's out. So I do think that's a, that that is actually more interested in me about than Tank Biggsby is like, what really is the difference between, like, I would, if I need points this week, I would pick Devin Singletary for the Giants. Because he's a goal line running back and he's on waivers. But what is really the difference between Devin Singletary when the Giants are trying versus Tank Bigsby when Sinkwin has to rotate out? I don't know. So.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I think you could also probably say the same thing for guys like Brian Robinson on the Niners. Yes. If McCaffrey were to get dinged up or, I mean, honestly, the other guy, I think, who's probably not quite. on this tier. But Blake Corum on the Rams gets a lot of runs when the Rams are winning big, when Kyran's tired. And he looks good and he seems like he's finally kind of earned the trust of McVeigh a little bit. So I think the three of them are kind of in like, you might get seven, eight carries out of them anyway next week. And if the starter were to go down, they might change your entire league. I agree with that. Blake Corum, especially because
Starting point is 00:21:40 the Rams are playing the Niners this week. The Niners defensive line. So remember how we were saying the only healthy linemen they had was Mikel Williams? ACL, gone. He tore his ACL. Just no. Absolutely. brutal. The Niners are down to their I want to say four fifth and sixth string defensive ends. Like the Niners have four healthy defensive ends. Two of them were joined the team last week. So it's like
Starting point is 00:21:59 they have no run defense. So I agree with Craig. But it's the same thing where if anything happens to Kyrod Williams, Blake Coral, be crazy valuable. So what do we want to do? Who do we want to choose? The other massive caveat that we have to give, though, is if Kyle Minangai is available, the Bears running back, you have to add him. We're assuming that he's been added between
Starting point is 00:22:15 because he's rostered and like, he went from like 8% roster to like 80% roster. If Kyle Minungai is available, we all agree Kyle Minungi from the Bears would absolutely be the guy you have to pick here. Yeah. Like, it's so obvious to us that we're not even going to include him this exercise. We should also, we've mentioned nine guys. I want to mention a 10th. We should probably mention Terrell Jennings on the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Ramandre's got a toe injury. Those things can linger. Terrell Jennings had 12 touches. Got some goal line work. Like, you know, that's actually a guy where, if you want to bank on somebody, getting a touchdown next week. If I had to bet any of these guys to get a touchdown next week,
Starting point is 00:22:53 Terrell Jennings actually might be number one. Yeah, but we don't know if Ramadry's going to play. Right, that's what I'm saying. But you basically have 24 hours to make this decision. We're recording Monday night. Like Tuesday night, when we get a better sense of all these injuries, you're going to have to kind of make that call for yourself. But what should we do?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Tank Biggsby? I mean, probably Terrell Jennings. If you actually had to play someone this week, if you're like three and five and if you lose this week, it doesn't matter. You're not thinking about the future. Like probably Terrell Jennings, if we're being honest. But that's only a,
Starting point is 00:23:19 from Andre's out. But yes, okay. Yeah, he's a toe injury. But it's not a toe injury. It's turf toe, right? Yeah. So I'm like, okay. All right, if you don't want to take Terrell Jennings, I get it.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Honestly, part of me does want to just do Blake Corum because the Rams, the Niners defense is going to get, I think, pretty carved out by McVeigh. Why don't we, this was, we should do this. We should just do trivia. And then whoever wins can just pick wherever they want because it seems like we can't agree. That is actually, yeah, there we go. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Split trivia. This is the first time we were just like, none of these guys. I was super unprepared for D.K. to say take Biggsby. Yeah. I like that, though. You never know what he's going to do next. The teams are not usually super forthcoming about injuries.
Starting point is 00:24:00 And so, like, we can see Sequin be limited in practice all week, and then they just rest him because they want to save him for the playoffs. Part of me does think it is worth being, like, what is really the difference between trying to parse if a backup running backs is going to get five or eight or ten points versus? Part of me is like the extra value of if Lake Quorum of Kairn gets hurt and Tank Bigsby if Sequin gets hurt and the third guy that I'm, Brian Robinson, if he's available, if McAfee gets hurt.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Those guys are just so much more valuable if there's an injury. The fact that Sequinor has an existing injury, this is how we got to the Kyle Benang guy's situation because we've talked for a month that, well, Dianjus was playing through a groin injury or quad, whatever. If he aggravates it, he'll be great. So actually, I just talked myself into Tankbeek's week.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah, I think it's, I agree. I think it's Chang. All right. Fuck it, Tankbeksby showed him. All right. Full circle. It is the cake Biggsby Showdown time The only piece
Starting point is 00:24:59 Let that linger for a while I like that To let it linger God dude I love Love that song Also love the gong This one's from Camille Camille
Starting point is 00:25:09 Camille is that a C Cbone Is it a K C C C bone What's up Breakfast is this
Starting point is 00:25:19 I don't know how to pronounce The Siggy's plain Greek yogurt blueberries and granola with a black coffers. I thought you were saying cigarettes. Oh, no. I mean, some people actually do say that in the breakfast. Wait, so what did he have? Siggy's and what else?
Starting point is 00:25:30 Or she. Okay, sure. What did they have? Sorry. Siggy's plain Greek yogurt, blueberries and granola. Wow. Pretty healthy.
Starting point is 00:25:39 What a nice, lovely breakfast to begin your day. So Camille writes about how we always joke about Chris Collinsworth, including how Chris Collinsworth's father was Abe Lincoln, Collinsworth. Yep.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And so Camille wrote, but nobody ever talks about how next to Chris is this angel Mike Tariko so Camille asks how many professional sports has Mike Tariko done play by play or in-game commentary for not including the Olympics oh no I was going to ask about that not including the Olympics how many different sports has Mike Tariko done play by play by play or in-game commentary do they have to be professional or no I don't think so like if he started out doing like minor league baseball or like high school baseball as a 20-year-old accounts.
Starting point is 00:26:24 I don't know. Okay. Now, and then, yeah. Shit, okay. All right. Three, two, one. 17. God damn. What did you say, Craig?
Starting point is 00:26:37 I said 18. Craig said 17. Oh, wow. I said 12. Yeah, I kind of was like he was five. I got sandwiched then, damn it. I was just thinking before we read the answer, I'm like, doesn't he do Olympic stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like, wouldn't there be like, you're banging out like six or seven sports in a day. We just said no Olympics. No Olympics, though. Oh, fuck, I didn't hear that part. He just doesn't listen to anything. You say a lot of stuff, man. I can't listen to every word you say. You're always saying stuff. Listen, you say a lot of words. That's what Collinsworth says in my brain. I don't know. You're always talking, Mike. The answer is, I have to count. one PGA tour ESPN Monday football NBA NHL World Cup
Starting point is 00:27:18 Golf Indy 500 college football Stanley Cup that's nine I don't think we football night in America I don't think that counts as separate oh yeah we didn't count that is Monday and Sunday football different doesn't matter I think I won here
Starting point is 00:27:34 nine or 10 see sometimes when I don't read the answer in advance it's not as interesting as I thought A very normal number like oh yeah 10 all right That's okay. All right. Well, you know what, Camille? I appreciate your breakfast.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Whatever. The candle be winners. I'll take Tank Biggsby for the same reason as Kylemanungai, which is if Seyquins growing gets worse over November and you have Tank Biggsby on your roster, you will maybe win your league. I want Blake Corum. Also a great pick. Because I kind of think that if, I think if Kyron Williams gets hurt, I think Blake Corum can do like or recreate 90% of the fantasy production of Kyron Williams.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I don't if McAfrey gets hurt so much of his of his role is receiving not that Brandon Robinson can't do that but I just question I don't know if he'll be able to replicate that and the offense is like you know I don't think I'd rather go super accurate the irony that DK after all this gets stuck having to pick between these guys anyway is really funny yeah there's not a lot of great I don't know where I'm going here I guess I'm going to go with Dylan Samson just because another guy he if Judkins doesn't come back or if he re-entered his Shouldkins is expected to play this week. Kevin's DeFancy's already said that.
Starting point is 00:28:47 You're no interest to David Singletary. He's the goal I'm back for the Giants. I get that the Giants suck. All right. I'll take Singletary. I feel like that's the floor pick. They're playing Chicago. Yeah, that's the floor pick.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I'll go with Singletary. I think Samson, though, like, it wouldn't be super surprising to see Judkins aggravate that. Shoulders, you know, shoulders can be finicky, so, but there's no good option here. You can't lower your, like, four on the head of defender. It's tough out there for what running back. Yeah. Do you guys feel like it was harder? Like the running back, for lack of a better term,
Starting point is 00:29:20 it's just less liquid to find snaps at running back this year than any year to remember? Well, once again, knock on wood, been a pretty healthy running back year. There has, I would say across the board, help me, but there has not really been like a true, usually there is a couple waiver wire explosions every year. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Has there been one? I guess Camani Vidal has been good for a couple games. I think it was confused. Doudel. Rico Doudal. But it's only been like three games, really. But Dowdell was even then, Chuba was not really supposed to be like a huge injury. And I don't think anyone saw that all thing coming.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Hampton going down, it was confusing because it was Haskins or Vidal. And I don't think people played. And then Vidal. And then the other one was James Connor. Really, the frenzy was for Trey Benson, who then was immediately injured. Yeah. And, you know, like, Rashad White's been okay when Bucky Irving was out. He was rostered.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah. He was like, no, I don't think anyone added Rashad White. I feel like he was mostly already in Yeah, hasn't been a lot of waiver wire league winners this year. Maybe that'll change. Maybe everyone will get hurt this week. That'd be cool. It'll probably be Terrell Jennings, who no one picked.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Wide receiver. I think the wide receiver depth this week is actually pretty solid. My receiver is much better, I think. Who's your number one receiver entering week 10 that you would take over? There are three guys that I think are really good picks. And I'm going to go with, I'll just go with the safe one here, I guess,
Starting point is 00:30:41 Alec Pierce for the Colts, who is quietly having a pretty solid season overall. The last couple of weeks, he's had five targets, 10 targets, four targets. Sorry, that was before this week we were at 13 targets. And he is a deep threat on a very good offense in the Colts. Daniel Jones likes to chuck it up to him downfield. He's had at least four targets in every game except for week one. So he's averaging almost nine points per game. I mean, it's a floor play here because there's a couple of,
Starting point is 00:31:11 other guys who I like also, but I guess I'll just go with like the consistency that Alec Pierce brings here. He's on pace for over a thousand yards this year. He has 501 yards through seven games. Yeah. He's good. I think he's a good player. I'm going to do the stupid thing. I guess if we're just going for next week, things changed a little bit because they're playing Houston. But stupidly, I'm thinking about Parker Washington on Jacksonville, but I just know the game's going to start. And I'm going to be like, why the fuck did I take the Jags? But Diommy Brown had a concussion in this game. Brian Thomas didn't play in overtime because of an ankle injury. Travis Hunter's out for a while. So I'm like, Parker Washington, he's kind of like, someone's got to get passes
Starting point is 00:31:50 on this team, but that doesn't always work out. But Parker Washington has been okay the last couple of weeks. So that's where I'm meaning. What he would, he was the other guy I liked the most here. I like neither one's perfect because the Colts are in Germany next week and how many times you turn out the European game and you're like, why did I pick a player in this game? Like, you know what I mean? Like that. And then the Colts go on by. So, That's the issue with Alec Pierce, too, where you're like, oh, I'm going to add a guy. He's going to get two catches because it's like the fucking Germany game
Starting point is 00:32:17 and Daniel Jones or whatever. It looks weird. And then he goes by and you cut him. And I'm like, I get, because I agree with everything you said, DK. I'm just saying sometimes you pick a guy in that European game. You feel stupid. But I agree with what you're saying, too, Craig, where it's like, oh, cool. I picked up a third string receiver against the best defense in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:32:32 It's not ideal. I am going to lean to Parker, Washington because. I think I want to change my answer, actually. Yeah. Here's the deal. I'm going to go with Washington, too, because Travis Hunter, on the IR. Brian, Thomas Jr. has an ankle injury. He's probably not going to
Starting point is 00:32:45 play. Diombe Brown has a concussion. Tim Patrick was already hurt coming into this last game with a groin injury. They like actually don't have anyone else. They're starting tight ends been out. Strange. Strange. That is why I'm taking Parker Washington because the only reason put stingly on him and he's fucked.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Well, that was the only reason I looked at the schedule and I was like, God, it's the Texans. It's going to be Davis Mills versus Parker Washington. Yeah. But I think ultimately he gives you like more upside down over more than one game I guess
Starting point is 00:33:17 they'll have three catches on screens alone for Parker Washington let me ask what if we just pick Christian Watson now that Tucker Kraft turns ACL Matthew Golden might not play and it's like all right you have Dobbs and Christian Watson going against the Eagles this game matters for the backers
Starting point is 00:33:30 that's the funny part about the receivers this week I actually look at them all individually and there's all like glaring like Christian Watson's clearly the most talented guy here when healthy but then you're like Watson's still on a snap count. It's also funny to pick a guy still in a snap count
Starting point is 00:33:45 is also the most explosive player in Green Bay. Tori Horton for Seattle where you're like, is he going to just take Cooper Cup's role? But then you're like, okay, so I'm just banking, this rookie to take catch touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:33:56 All he's Tori Horton does is to catch touchdowns. What if Cooper Cup comes back and then Tori Horton doesn't play in two receiver sets, goes back to three receiver sets? Trey Tucker is like an awesome receiver of the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Brock Bowers is clear of the one. If Jacoby Myers gets traded, you'd be like, oh, Tray Tucker, if he's available, maybe he's been cut. But then they're playing the Broncos. And I know Patrick Sturtain's probably going to miss that game, too. But if Jacoby Myers doesn't get traded, you're like, why am I adding Tray Tucker on my team? But all those guys could work out. Toro Horton could take Cooper Cubs role, and then he's going to be great.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Trade Tucker could just be the number 200 Raiders team that's way better with Bowers. And then all these defensive coordinators are going to see Bowers last week and be like, we'd rather trade Tucker of the football. Watson could just easily be Christian Watson. All these guys are good options. Alex Pierce to me is easy I agree, DK, if I actually
Starting point is 00:34:41 to pick a guy of like your life depends on this guy getting double digits this week or you'll die, I'd pick Alec Pierce. The combo of like, he's the perfect kind of replay. The fact that he goes on buy next week,
Starting point is 00:34:52 I feel like I'm not necessarily getting the juice. So I'll probably go with Parker Washington solely because the staying power of Travis Hunter being on injured reserve. I'm like Parker Washington will probably be playable for the coming games. But I mean, Maybe I'm also like, I have Christian Watson in the Ringer League, and I'm not cutting
Starting point is 00:35:11 up for these guys. So maybe the answer is Christian Watson. I think I, I'm also not, yeah. I think Christian Watson, if you're factoring in the rest of the season, Christian Watson has to have the most upside for the simple reason that Jordan Love is going to keep chucking the ball downfield all year. And Watson in theory is going to get healthier as a larger role. So maybe actually, now that I'm saying it, Christian Watson should be first for me.
Starting point is 00:35:33 I would have Parker Washington second and Alec Pierce third. but if you're in a do or die matchup this week, I would actually take Alec Pierce. Parker Washington has 19 targets in his last two games. He's the top receiver. Also, we've been saying Brian Thomas looks like ass all year. He finally looked good last week. He got hurt.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, maybe I'll do Parker Washington. I think it's Parker Washington. Yeah, I'm going to go with that too. All right, fuck it. All right, fine. I'll do. But I think, yeah, I mean, the reason we're so wishy-washy on this is because there are three good options, actually.
Starting point is 00:36:05 There are. Yeah, you know what? know what else I don't want. Christian Watson, if you have the luxury of waiting for the season, I don't like that the Eagles and Vic Fangio playing the Packers this week, they just added two cornerbacks. And it's like, I kind of think they're going to throw Joy in Love really off his game. Like, Vic Fangry just has a lot of new pieces.
Starting point is 00:36:20 They have a new nickel, Michael Cart. Like, they can do a lot of new stuff now. So I don't love that either. So yeah, we'll do Parker Washington showdown. We'll trust Parker Washington going up against the Texans defense. Let's do that. All these guys are so flawed. It is the Parker Washington.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Showdown time. All right, give me something good. And start with a breakfast. It's from Sean. Sean A. S-Bone. Is it S-E-A-N or S-H-A-W-N or S-H-O-N-E like Sean Green, former running back? Was there, was S-H-O-N-N-E?
Starting point is 00:37:04 I thought it was just S-H-O-N-N-E. Sean Green was S-H-N-E, wasn't he? It was at least S-H-O-N-N. Oh, no, we're both wrong. wrong. S-H-D-K is right. S-H-O-N-N. No.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Oh, there was no E on the end of the green. Oh. Just throwing E's out willy-billy. Got it. Wow. Yeah, look at that. I was good. I see how they tripped up.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Anyway, it's S-H-A-W-N. Got it. What do you think is more common? S-E-A-N or S-H-W-N? S-E-A-N. I think I've seen S-E-A-N more. Yeah, that's right. Anyway, it's from Sean.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That could be the question. Sean. What's the ratio? How many Sean's were boring Someone send that in Don't actually Sean's breakfast is a protein coffee shake Made up of a cup of cold brew
Starting point is 00:37:51 A cup of water Two scoops of protein powder That's just adding Protein powder to coffee That's not a shake That's like the workout bro's version Of a vodka water Yes
Starting point is 00:38:01 You know That does not sound appetizing to me Cold brew Yeah I don't think he's doing it for the taste I don't like cold brew either Really So birds one stone Sean sent it
Starting point is 00:38:12 I love this question. Sean sent in he was inspired by Craig's story about just smoking cigars in your room with your college roommate Chris and just making your fucking room smell horrible. Yeah. So his trivia question is
Starting point is 00:38:25 what's the average temperature of the tip of a burning cigar? Jesus Christ. What a disastrous question. How hot is the orange part of a cigar? What a sick and cruel question from Sean. But look, how hot is like a fire? I love that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't know. I've never thought of this. Oh my God. How hot is the orange part of a cigar? So like right after it's lit, we're saying? I don't know. It's the tip of a burning cigar. I assume the fact burning, in my head,
Starting point is 00:38:59 I'm like the orange part. How hot is, when you inhale, with the orange part, how hot's the orange part of a cigar? These questions make me feel so dumb. Like, now I'm like, I don't actually know how hot fire is. Do you guys think everyone driving in their car right now was like, I know the answer to this? How hot is fire?
Starting point is 00:39:17 I hope not. What the fuck? I wrote my answer down because when I read this, I immediately had a random number pop in and I'm like, I'm going to go with that. I feel like all three of us are going to say the same number. You think? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:29 I'll see. Now I'm going to change my number. Okay. Three, two, one. $8. $2.25. $2.20? I said $2.75.
Starting point is 00:39:41 How? Craig, or Hafe had said 800 something? I said 800 because that's the pizza oven company that LeBron has. Yeah, that's probably, and that was the only reference. Yeah, that is supposed to be like an incredibly hot pizza though, right? That's like, it's like ridiculously hot. Is that?
Starting point is 00:39:56 I didn't know that part. I think. Okay. All right, so what's the cigar? I mean, think about like you can bake a pizza at 300, 350 or 400, like if you really wanted to, right? It would not be good, but you could. It would suck, but you could. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:11 But, like, that's in the oven, though. But is that the fire of the oven? Or if you touch the hottest part of the oven, it's hotter than that. Yeah. Because when you make pizza at home, it's like, what, $450, $500 is how hot you would go? Right? Oh, my God. I've never felt bummer.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's like a thousand. 1,650 degrees. Oh. 165, 1,600 degrees is the type of a cigar. Okay. That's hot. That's dangerous. Double the pizza oven.
Starting point is 00:40:38 I was unfamiliar with your game, fire. Dude, fire is hot. This is like a stupid question, but can fire be like a lot of different temperatures? Or is it just one temperature? That's such a dumb question. Hold on, I'm going to Google that now. I will say, yeah, we should put that out as a book. It can be different temperatures, it seems.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I mean, definitely can be different temperatures. Also, it says you can bake a pizza at 400 degrees if you wanted to. How hot is fire? there's a lot of, there's a lot of answers. You can do fire temperature by color. Oh yeah, right. By the color. This is, I feel like you learn.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Right, right. Yeah. Red is six. Red is 1100 to 1,800 Fahrenheit. Orange to yellow is around 2,000 Fahrenheit. White is 2,400 to 27 Fahrenheit. We went way too low. My brother was a firefighter.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He will listen to this episode and he's going to be really mad. But we're recording this too late. He's definitely asleep. I can ask, I ask my brother about fire. Candle flame. 1,100 to 2,500 Fahrenheit, wood fire, 2,000. God, dude, there's a lot of variation. Fire, all right.
Starting point is 00:41:48 The only thing that's constant here is Craig and I were way, way, way, way, way too low. Because went to the boiling point of water. I was like, I don't know. Yeah. Fire's hot is the lessen here. Fire's hot right now. So hot right now. Fire.
Starting point is 00:42:03 1,600 a fucking cigar. You're just waving that thing around? Okay. Putting it in your mouth? So I win. I'm not 2 and 0 right now. I guess, So I'm taking Parker Washington,
Starting point is 00:42:13 which is a little... You know what's crazy about that? Hold on. Boiling temperature of water is two, what? 10. 220. 220? Boiling water is fucking hot. If you put boiling water on your hand,
Starting point is 00:42:26 it would be... It's 212, by the way. 212. It would be extremely painful. And yet a cigar is eight times that. If you were to put a cigar into your hand, that's eight times worse hotter than boiling water. That feels wrong to me.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It does feel wrong. That does feel wrong. I see what you're saying. I think specifically it's just like every discussion on the internet. It feels wrong. Therefore, I think it's no. It can be eight times hotter than boiling water. Something I don't understand feels wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:56 So therefore, maybe they're wrong. Is it really 1600 degrees? If somebody was like, hey, would you rather pour boiling water on your hand or put a cigar into your hand? I'd think about it. Like, I don't think there's an obvious answer to that. No, because if you pour boiling water on you, it will, you will get a, like, a, burn. If someone puts a cigarette out on you, it is there for years. Yeah, but yeah, I guess it, but if, like, if you just like a stamp, if it's a stamp versus boiling water, which would you pick?
Starting point is 00:43:24 Well, the size, but that's kind of the point. Yeah. I don't know. I guess in my head to me, the cigar is not eight times hotter than the one. Now I'm, see, now we're back to how hot is fire. Okay, Craig, I did do, I did do a little more research. Just now in the last 30 seconds. Yeah, which is kind of, It's confirming a little bit like your, I guess, like, uncertainty about this. And again, the tip of a cigar can vary dramatically, according to the AI overview here. Peak temperature can go over 1,000, so like 1,800 Fahrenheit. That seems in... The temperature fluctuates.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Craig is right. It changes dramatically during a puff with variations between 200 and 300 Celsius. So, like, 400, whatever. Craig's right. This has to be a wrong answer. Here's why. When you smoke a cigar and you get down, there's no way that when you're holding the cigar, it's 1500 degrees in your hand. That's fucking crazy. How are we even entertaining this? Imagine holding the cup of boiling water. How hot that is? What's the highest setting an oven goes to? You clean it like 500, right? It's like 600 maybe 600 degrees when you clean an oven. Yes. They lock that shit because you can't even open. open it because you'll fucking hurt yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:42 The idea that you would be holding 1,600 degrees, near your fingers is ridiculous. I read this wrong. There's variations of 200 to 300 Celsius. So like it varies by 400 or something like that. This is a great reminder. It's still quite hot. It's a great reminder for
Starting point is 00:44:57 people to include the fact checks to your answers because this is what happens when I got all worried about you guys fucking thinking I'm cheating is I don't actually lock down on whether people have fact check these answers. Bottom line, We were wrong. Craig.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Anyway, I won the point, though. So, anyway, Parker Washington. I get him. So who's second? Two, I don't know. Craig, the DK said 275, I think. Yeah, so DK's second. So you want Christian Watson or Pierce?
Starting point is 00:45:22 I feel like I bullied you out of Alec Pierce and he's going to have 150 yards and two touchdowns. So you should just take him. I'll take Alec Pierce. Wait, great. I'll get Christian Watson for being a moron. I feel like we all liked all these guys. Yeah. I think this is good.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I think all these guys have huge potential this week and the rest of the season and they're actually real-life talented. I have multiple times, there's always a funnier intrusive thought, but I have multiple times just had an intrusive thought the Parker Washington's the best receiver in the Jaguars. I've thought that multiple times watching these games this season. But Alec Pierce also just has this, like, very unique role in Indianapolis where he's, I just, it's shocking, he doesn't have a touchdown yet this season.
Starting point is 00:46:00 And they'll probably have one this week. So I actually feel good about these. And again, if Jacoby Myers is traded from Denver, Troy Tucker is absolutely worth an ad. So there's good receivers. Hold on. Do we want to mention any other guys like Torrey Horton in case Cooper Cup gets, stays hurt. I think it's a good ad. He's going to get old Yellard. Well, I think Cup will still play, but there's a potential Tori Horton could see more time. DeMario Douglas and or Kyle Williams on the Patriots, if Kishon Booty misses time, which he probably will.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I think Kyle Williams sucks, and I don't think you should add him. I think if Pop Douglas is there, he's talented. Kyle Williams has been bad. I can drive by on Kyle Williams. he's been he's been the worst they're gonna trade for receiver because he hasn't booty in the ex receiver is actually talented and able to make I don't know I have no what are you judging this he sucks on he's made you go to practice what does he suck on hyphids by what metrics are you judging that he sucks
Starting point is 00:46:58 or what evidence do you have organically walked in the sucks on booty can't believe that I think well I don't mean sucks I mean it was a good prospect you like him coming in I just he's had no impact on Patriots games this year and he's just never on the same page. He's just never doing the right thing on the field. And he just had made very little impact to me this season, even though Drake May is playing an unbelievable level.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And so... Right. You heard of for Hyvitz, don't take Kyle Williams. That's probably me that you should get Kyle Williams. And Camere D.K is like, for the Titans is there. I'm like, I don't want these guys. Washington, all these guys are dead to me now. Marcus Marriott is going to play instead of Jane Daniels.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Luke McCaffer's hurt. I don't want any of these corpses in Washington. Like, I don't know. I'm going to stay well. I'd rather have good guys and good teams. I'm kind of want to, I don't want to even like, you know, T. Higgins that are literally in the red zone. Yes. Go to, yeah, teams in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Okay. Tight ends. Not a bad week for tight ends. I think it's actually a pretty good week for tight ends. Colston Loveland for the Bears, who had his big breakout game. And I think importantly here, he was playing ahead of Cole Komet, even before Komet went out with a concussion. I mean, I would assume Kemet misses at least one more game.
Starting point is 00:48:14 The bears get the Giants next. But this could be, I think you have to take the chance and grab him if you can. In the case of this is like his breakout performance, and then he continues to, you know, be one of the focal points of their offense. I first I put Loveland first in Harold Fanon on the Brown second. And then I switch and I put Fanon first and Loveland second. And I'm going back and forth because Lovelin is still a rookie town. end and if Kemet comes back and all these pieces, I just don't know. I think Fannin is much more
Starting point is 00:48:45 the centerpiece of the offense. The Browns could trade in Joku tomorrow. And then Fanon is really the centerpiece of the offense. However, then I'd be betting on Dylan Gabriel and whatever the hell the Brown's offense is versus the Bears and Ben Johnson and how they continue to get better. So it's very, very tricky for me. Where are you leaning? Everything you just said, I feel I totally co-signed it. The same thing. I almost wish, David and Joku would get traded because then it's like Harold Fanon, it is so much clearly the right answer here. But I agree, Craig, with everything you just said. I think the short answer is like they're both kind of betting on rookie tight ends with unusually good receiving profiles.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Loveland because he was taking really high and just had an awesome game and fanning because he's just like a receiver who led every conceivable metric and dumb stats and advanced stats in college. He's just a receiver who plays tight end. Harold Fanon is. So I will probably go with, Like, again, if you tell me about this week, I kind of think Harold Fannin, I mean, I don't really, I mean, again, the fact that both these teams are going against New York teams, I think is really funny. I kind of think Harold Fadden probably matches up a little better against the Jets. But again, it's like, would you rather have the kind of number one option on a bad offense
Starting point is 00:49:56 or like the number three offense, the number three option on like above average offense? I don't even know if the bears, you feel that way necessarily. Well, I would say to answer that, in fantasy typically a tight-e-eat-eat-e, end to reach really high levels in fantasy, they need to be the number one or number two option. That is usually what you're looking for when you want a strong fantasy tight end. Part of me just thinks that frankly, part of me just, I would probably lean Harold Fanon for the simple reason that he was able to contribute so early that there is a chance to me that coming out of Cleveland's buy that he just has this like bump as a receiver and that
Starting point is 00:50:34 Colts to level it while he was awesome. He has had exactly one game of impact against the worst defense in the NFL and he has 27 points last week. Half of those were basically had one play where it was a total fluke touchdown. And if Colson Loveland had nearly had 14 points, we'd probably say he was like second to Fanon. I'll go with FAA. But it's totally like dealer's choice. Like I'm, we can barely make up our minds. But I'll say Harold Fanon, but frankly, they're both crazy talented and way better than usual waiver wire picks and we tend to 10 is the real point. I'll go Fanon as well. I like Fanon. All right. You want to love Lovlin or Fannin?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Well, I'll, we can do the trivia on a Fannin. Okay. But you can, you're allowed to take Loveland. Just, let's just do this. Let's do this trivia. All right. Guy loves trivia. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Let's do it. Herald Fanon Jr. Showdown time. This email's from Luke. Luke. Elbone. It's a little long. No, Luke.
Starting point is 00:51:35 I am your father. You guys seen that movie? Does that, God damn. That was really accurate. Took me right back to that scene. Also, didn't they, don't he? Doesn't he never actually say,
Starting point is 00:51:53 Luke I am your father? He says, no, I am your father. Yeah, the Luke I am your father is not actually in line. Funny. Anyway. Yeah, I have, they should just fix them. I've seen that movie. Luke's breakfast with sausage egg and cheese biscuits,
Starting point is 00:52:09 slice of pepperoni, sausage pizza, 24-ounce sugar-free monster, athletic, free, wavy, hazy, IPA, non-alcoholic. What the fuck? I kind of just skipped over that part. That's insane. Wait, he had all that. Can you read that again?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Sausage egg and cheese biscuit. Slice of pepperoni and sausage pizza. Okay. I'm worried about you. 24-round sugar-free monster. And then an athletic freeway of hazy IPA non-alcoholic. That's kind of wild. He had an athletic beer for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Whoa. I haven't heard of that before. This is why we do this. This is why we get the breakfast. What are you talking about? What are you doing a non-alcoholic? free wave hazy IPA in the fucking morning with a slice of
Starting point is 00:52:49 pizza and a sausage chicken cheese on a biscuit. I kind of maybe that's like his Monday morning move he's like I still want it to be the weekend in my head. So. This sounds like a bachelor party. I don't understand this. Sausid chicken cheese.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Just everything in the fridge. Oh my god. What the fuck? I've never heard that. He's drinking an athletic N-A beer in the morning. I can't tell him that's a problem or not. I'm like I get That's cool. I don't know. Like, is he doing a good job or is this, like, concerning?
Starting point is 00:53:19 When those athletic brewing people started making free wave, hazy, non-alcoholic IPAs, do you think anyone was like, we should sell this for breakfast? They're like, no, you morons. Nobody's going to have this for breakfast. Well, he's just having pizza and beer for breakfast. He's just and beer. Don't forget the sausage and cheese. And a monster.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Sugar-free, Craig. Sugar-free monster. 24-out-out. That's a big boy. He's insane. Oh, my God. Luke, you're a psychopath. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Anyway. It's like Danny McBride and fucking What's the what this is the end? Yeah making the breakfast The whole fucking spread Wild anyway so Luke writes I've long thought so he's talking about how We always say there's SpongeBob millennials and DK succeed by the Bell
Starting point is 00:54:02 Millennials DK you're 42 right 43 43 Craig and I are 30 No you're 31 yeah so there you go 13 year 12 13 year age gap So Luke writes I've always thought the pod needs a middle generation and millennial do the niche and finesse of some of the generational questions because Luke says I'm 38
Starting point is 00:54:21 and the number of times I've screamed like a ghost that I'm a boy meets world millennial. I want to let me. Damn it. And Luke says that there are multiple times we've talked about something that actually threads the needle that neither of us understand. And Luke says they bring this up because it happened again this week
Starting point is 00:54:37 with the discussion about textbook covers. Because D.K. says he's never heard of them. I was like, I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about. I saw a picture of it on the no-context ringer fantasy football show Instagram and I still didn't know what they were. I mean, I understand what they are, but I'd never seen those before.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So Luke was mad that DK never heard of him. Craig was, Luke was mad that Craig and I bought them. Luke says, me and all the other boy meets world millennials, we made our own. He says, that's right.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, we did too. We used paper. Oh, yes. People used to make, I remember people making the paper ones. Yeah. I feel like you do know what we were talking about No I just didn't know I didn't know what the
Starting point is 00:55:18 Specchy elastic thing you guys were talking about I didn't do those And also I did I watched poymies world like Topanga was a legend Yeah, you didn't fucking Cori and Topanga I can still think of the theme song in that show great show Mr. Feeney what what generation do you think watched Is Mr. Feeney the guy in Piki Blinders? I don't know Don't think so no way those have to be
Starting point is 00:55:45 different people. Which one are you thinking? No, super different people. No, he just looks like him. Which guy in Piki blinders are you thinking of? Inspector Campbell is super different people. No, no, no, no. That's the guy for, he's the guy from Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Um, one time. Who? You're lying? That's not true. No, look up his fucking name. I'm on there right now. No, that's not true. It's true.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Who is? Are you talking about Inspector Campbell? I'm trying to remember his name now. Yeah. his name is Sam O'Neill Oh Sam O'Neill Sorry Sam Neil Sorry
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yes Sam Neil Who was in Jurassic Park Who was like the cool Hot friend? I actually did not know this This is blowing my mind Who was like the cool hot friend
Starting point is 00:56:34 He's one of three brothers In Boi Mets's Corey's best friend You know what I'm talking about? Well I'm blanking on his name Don't remember that Lawrence Are the Lawrence brothers is that them?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Maybe. Come on. Actually, now I can't remember the show well. I guess I didn't watch you. And his brother, Joey Lawrence and Andrew Lawrence. You know those guys? One time when I was like 8 in Hawaii, I ran into them at a hotel. Do you say anything?
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah, I think I did. I think I loved that show. I might have been, I don't know how old it was, eight, nine, 10 years old. And I did say something to them. Which was the guy? Which one is the one that said, whoa in, in
Starting point is 00:57:12 like, I think it was in Blossom. I don't remember this show very well. Matthew Lawrence was also in Miss Doubtfire. He's one of the kids. Joey Lawrence was like, whoa. That was his catchphrase in Blossom. You guys ever watch that show? I did not.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I'm going to go ahead and finish the trivia. Okay. This is uninterested now. Okay. I mean, we've been on this email for quite a while. Yeah, let's do it. Luke writes, how many calories was my brain?
Starting point is 00:57:42 No, I'm kidding. Luke writes, What is the cost $3,000? Of the current soul-sucking cheapest single textbook cover on Walmart.com. You know, the whole thing about, like, how annoyed it is that these get sold and they don't get made and newspapers, but I'm not going to wait. The cost of the cheapest text book cover? How much is the cheapest textbook cover cost of the wall?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Are they sold in packs or is a single? Single. I'm surprised they do that. Okay. Well, it's Walmart. I don't know. They have every product imaginable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:10 We're all going to guess, like, between zero and $3. I'm imagining. I wrote down my answer when I saw this. Okay. 3, 2, 1. 984. I said $7. How much could have been at a cost, Michael?
Starting point is 00:58:30 It would be probably more expensive than you. The correct answer is $4.75, which actually... What is it? 475, which I actually think I actually won, which is hilarious. That's a rip-off. I can make you one of those. those for free. So, I was, I was within $2.91.
Starting point is 00:58:50 What did you say? I said, $184. $1.84. Yeah, I think I beat you. What did you say? I said seven bucks. And then what was the price? $4.75.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Are you to calculator app? I am doing that. $2.25. What did I have? Fuck, I forgot already. Yours is $2.25. All right. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:59:12 One more time. How much did it cost? $4.75. Let me get out my, let me get it out. Let me get out my abacus. D.K. Or Hyvitz says he's 2.25 away. 2.91.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Fuck, I was farther away. Okay. Glad we got there. Hyvitz with the sweet. So now the trivice. Did you know those without using a calculator? You knew exactly how much it was? Roughly.
Starting point is 00:59:35 What? I was just trying to do the math. Like, fuck off. I guess I thought. This is a fucking calculator brain over here. Okay. You won. I got second.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I'm over here just slamming an athletic brewing trying to get through this show No, so now the trivia stands at Hyvitz is at 10 after the clean sweep I'm at 8, DKs at 7th Damn, wow Okay, so wait, who are you taking Hyvitz? Fanon. I'm gonna take Harold Fanon.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Okay, I'll take the Loveland. That sucks for me. I'll do Nobody say a word. We also didn't even mention, well... This is my decision, hold on. Okay. That's my decision. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Don't tell me what I'm going to do with my pick. Hmm. I want Isaiah likely. I want Isaiah likely on the Ravens. Baltimore Ravens, tight end. Isaiah likely. This is a big week because Tucker Kraft from the Packers
Starting point is 01:00:35 tour as ACL and he's out for the season. And I think an interesting thing to keep an eye on is Luke Musgrave, who was actually a tight end drafted higher than Luke Musgrave. He was the second round pick. Tucker Kraft was third. Tucker Kraft, yeah. But frankly, Tucker Kraft has become. but more overall valuable tight end, obviously.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So I think the interesting thing is I feel like Luke Musgrave is going to play for Grebeye Bay because they're kind of running out of guys because Dante Vicks has an injury and Matthew Gold's got an injury and Christian Watson's still on a snap count and Tucker Kraft's confirmed out for the season. But they have John Fitzpatrick
Starting point is 01:01:04 who's like the blocking tight end. Luke Musgrave who's kind of the Kyle Pitts like he's a tight end, but is he really? If you can't block, are you a tight end? Luke Musgraves seems like a receiver, but also in fantasy, that's good, but how much he's going to play. So Luke Musgrave, that means the idea
Starting point is 01:01:16 of like a guy that I would not be shocked at all if Luke Musgrave is like a total serious top 10 fantasy tight end the rest of the way and better than everyone we just talked about better than Fan and better than Loveland. I also think Luke Musgrave
Starting point is 01:01:30 could just not catch a pass next week, straight up. And so I think he's the biggest boom bust guy. The idea of throwing Luke Musgrave into your lineup like terrifies me. I'm not even sure you could add Luke Musgrave. I also think it's entirely possible Luke Musgrave is the number one fantasy waiver
Starting point is 01:01:45 pick overall next week. Yeah. So it's weird. So likely is like a way safer pick because likely has like a three-year track record of actually being a great NFL player or not great but just looks like good to watch play football. I know. I feel like with tight end, it's not like running back. It's like you can't just slot it in the backup and it's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Well, really it gets distributed elsewhere. Like I think that there's an argument when because there's, you know, when Tucker Kraft gets hurt, it's kind of like that's kind of one of the reasons Christian Watson's probably better. It's just there's more passes to grow around. It's like running backs. The only other guy I want to say is if you're in a deeper league, A. G. Barner for the Seahawks. He's not like a traditional
Starting point is 01:02:20 great profile of a tight end against a lot of targets. But Donald's cooking and honestly, Barner gets the tush push for Seattle. He's doing that now. Like Mark Andrews goes to the Ravens. He scored a touchdown this week. Obviously he can't count on that every week. But all the tight ends we're talking about are just
Starting point is 01:02:37 like fucking lottery picks anyway. The combo of the Seahawks are going to be in the red zone a lot. Barners plays a lot. And the fact that he's the tush push guy, just means he's going to be on the field for the goal line to threaten it. I just, I don't know. I'll take that however I can get it.
Starting point is 01:02:51 If you're in a deeper league and you really, all these guys were talking about are taken, you could do worse than a guy who might actually get a rushing touchdown. Did we mention Dalton Schultz for the Texans? We didn't, and I think we didn't
Starting point is 01:03:03 because fucking Davis Mills looks horrible. But it's up to you. I mean, Dalton Shultz are, he did. He has a ton of targets. Dalton Shultz is totally serviceable of your truly, truly, truly
Starting point is 01:03:14 truly out of options. Like, if you have Tucker Kraft and you are fucked and you don't have any options that all these people are talking about, I could totally see Dalton Shultz over AJ Barner. I just watched Davis Mills against the Niners defense that's depleted and he couldn't do anything. But maybe with a week of practice, it'll be way better.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Anything else in tight ends? No, I'm still thinking about his breakfast. Can I read it one more time? The athletic beer for breakfast is deranged. Sausage chicken cheese and a slice. a pepper and sausage pizza. I think he was at a bachelor party when I wrote this.
Starting point is 01:03:52 This is just what's in a fridge at a bachelor party. Can you look at Jimmy Dean and... What was the day of the week that he sent this email? Oh, that's a good question. Luke. If it's Thursday to Sunday,
Starting point is 01:04:08 I can get behind it. Monday. Psycho. What a stunt. Oh my God. Psycho, what a stud. An 11-11. Make a wish.
Starting point is 01:04:16 My God. I wish for Luke's... At 11-11 on a Monday. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to feel about this. Okay. Quarterbacks, obviously a lot of quarterback news this week. C. Ch. Stratocan Cust, I feel like he won't play this week. Obviously, the big one's, Jaden Daniels with the elbow. I know that happened while we were recording. I didn't actually see the play because I actually had turned the game off. And yeah, it's horrific. They were saying Jadenal's might not be out for
Starting point is 01:04:42 the season or whatever. I sure. I mean, I actually think Washington fans would riot if you brought him back. it doesn't matter. Marcus Bernardov's not going to play for probably the rest of the season, we'll see. They're claiming, they'll have more information on Jan Daniels the rest of the year. Did you see, sorry, the rest of this week, did you see that, I kind of actually, we whiffed on this because it happened live, that Robert Griffin III
Starting point is 01:05:05 also got her in his second season against Seattle. And it was kind of like the same area of the field. Which obviously it's different because it's not the tourist fault, like it's his arm getting stuck, is it the same as a knee? Did you see that he didn't fracture anything? Yes, he didn't fracture anything. He dislocated it, right?
Starting point is 01:05:23 But I don't think that's the point. No, no, I'm not saying he's fine now. I'm just surprised at that. That's true. I think a dislocation, the fear, though, is not necessarily a fracture. It's all the ligaments rip and tear. Yeah, it's like when you dislocate your knee, they're not like your knee's broken. They're like, oh, you have to go to the hospital because your fucking arteries might be severed.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I don't, I'm the sentence what happened with him. Yeah. Yeah, just the idea that it could go in that direction and nothing. broke. No bones cracked. He's the limber. He's the limber guy. Anyway, so Marcus Mariotta, I think is a really, really, really ugly quarterback that you could add and just like, don't, in the Trubisky. Well, he's, he's an attractive man, but don't watch him play football.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He'll just get you 16 points with rushing, right? I think he's the guy to add, like the Bengal. I mean, you can add Joe Flacco, the number one quarterback on the last month, but he's on by. It's like, I think you can have Flacco. If Donald's available, Fields? Sure. What do you think about McCarthy? Are you guys adding McCarthy or are you not buying it? McCarthy to me is kind of a matchup-based play.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Clearly, Baltimore, who I think is actually a little bit better right now defensively than their numbers on like Yahoo would suggest. So I don't know. If Darnold's available, I'd take him first. For sure. If Mario is available, I would take him second. And then... And then...
Starting point is 01:06:43 Well, no, there's a problem. Well, it's tough. Flacco, if he's available, he could grab... He's the number one quarterback. That's four weeks. the Bengals are going to be in the shootouts every week. You can add Flacco. I feel like he's probably taken, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:55 But Flacco is worth it. If you need someone this week, the problem is Justin Fields or Tarad Taylor. Either one, I don't know he's going to start. Aaron Glenn is making a game of it with the New York Media about like who's going to play or not. He literally, he literally is like, it's so funny.
Starting point is 01:07:06 You guys keep asking, keep giving me the same answer. I don't know because part of me thinks he's going to go with Fields because they have the game winning game. I don't know. They got to. I feel like they have to do.
Starting point is 01:07:17 But Tarad Taylor had a knee-ish. shoe, that is what kept him out. So it would suck if he couldn't run, because honestly, if you're the Jets and you can't run, he's not going to be good, but it was two weeks ago, so he's probably fine if he's playing. But yeah, Fields is, if Justin Fields is the starter again every week, Justin feels like he's going to get you five points or 25. So there are options a quarterback, but it's weird because when the waivers go through, you might go and put a claim in for Fields and then it's Toronto Taylor. So that's kind of odd. But I would say, you know, Darnold, Mariotta, Jets guy.
Starting point is 01:07:52 McCarthy and then Flacco, but he's in a different category because he's on by. Defenses, I think it's actually pretty simple. Seattle is still not rostered as much as I would think. I feel like Seattle has the top three defense in the NFL. And they're kind of like half rostered on certain Yahoo platforms.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I think that's just amazing to me. I would just add Seattle. You can have them all year. The Browns are just super available because they're on by. They're good defense. They're playing the Jets. Justin Fields, Stroud Taylor.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Browns are super available. I would go get Cleveland. Buffalo, because they're playing Miami. way healthier. I feel like just Buffalo just usually just really well against Tua. And I know they didn't do amazingly this season, but Buffalo, like, they're getting healthier. I would, I, I'm okay with Buffalo against Tua in Miami. And I would also say Baltimore, which, again, seems yucky, but getting healthier and they're playing the Vikings. And J.J. McCarthy, like, had some good throws. But overall, wasn't asked to do a ton.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And I do think the Ravens against the Vikings could be very lucrative with J.J. McCarthy. So I think one of those teams available, Seattle, Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore. One of those teams are available. So I would go with one of those four. Any other thoughts and streamers for you guys? Nope. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Let me do a couple emails. We'll get out of here. Okay. Great email from Gabriel. Gabe. G-bone. So on the Sunday episode, I kind of had a whole rant about how socks, I just don't know how to wear socks.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And I feel like I don't know, I just have no socks situation awareness. And it started with Craig talking about how he puts his socks on before his pants. Got a couple of tweets saying, and they do that too, so I'm good. The poll is kind of like 50-50. There are dozens of us. What is it really? The poll's 50-50.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Yeah, D-K and I do pants and then socks. You guys shamed me. 50-50. That's shocking. I think, you know what's funny though, Craig? Everyone had the same reaction, which is just complete shock that people do it any other way than the way they do it. Just people can't believe that.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Yeah, that's wild because you're putting on your socks like when you're getting dressed. We got 1,600 votes right now. It's 56 in favor of putting. socks on first, 5643. That's amazing. This is, I, that's just, that's crazy. Join the dark side. It's wild.
Starting point is 01:10:00 I just like, I don't put my socks on right away. Like, I'm walking around my house for a while with no socks on. It's bizarre. You put your socks on. If you were, if you were getting out of the shower and then it was time to go get dressed to go out. Pants. Pants.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Try socks next time. And then because like my shoes are in a different room. I'm like, I get my socks. I go get my shoes and then I put them on at the same time. Oh, interesting. Yeah. What do you do? I just think it's wild.
Starting point is 01:10:26 My socks are not in the same room as my shoes. 56. More people are putting in the same room with your shoes, DK. What? Are your socks in the same room as your shoes? No. I know what D.K. means, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Well, anyway. So this is from Gabriel. That's wild. Breakfast. So this is a quote. He says, my breakfast is Celsius and a vape. I know. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:10:52 It's not even in the top 20. 20 things I need to change. I'm not even going to say it, but you know. I want Celsius to sponsor a segment, and we have to scream the whole segment. Yeah. That's the bit. We just yell the whole segment. I love that he literally wrote, it's not even in the top 20 things I need to change about my life
Starting point is 01:11:09 from starting his day with the Celsius in Babe. Okay. Okay. So Gabriel writes, I was today years old when I realized there are people in the world that put their pants on before their socks. That is psychotic. Simply put, it's easier to touch your feet when you're not wearing pants. Hell yeah. Preach, Gabe. All right, why don't you fucking stretch?
Starting point is 01:11:26 I don't know. Anyway. Just picturing people walk around with those like socks suspenders, you know, the things back in the day that would like hold your socks up. See, those?
Starting point is 01:11:35 Every time I wear a suit, I totally wish I had those. Oh, the suspenders? No, the socks suspenders where they hold your socks up so they don't fall down. I completely understand why those exist. What's a socks suspender?
Starting point is 01:11:49 Highfits doesn't know anything about socks. That's true. Google socks. suspender. It's like what you, I feel like it, you, you like, and it's like old movie characters. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 Yeah. But I get it. Like, isn't this like, they're the, they're the least sexy thing I've ever seen in my life. What is this? Uh, yeah, they, you just pin them around your, your shin to keep your socks
Starting point is 01:12:17 from falling down throughout the day. I really don't know anything about socks. As a woman, let's, let's hear from the women of the listening, audience here, which are probably like six or seven, email in and let us know. If you saw, if you were like going to hang out with a guy and
Starting point is 01:12:35 he took his pants on and he was wearing that, how quickly do you leave? The answer to that question is just always, are they hot? Yes. When hot people do it, it's cool. If Jacob Alluredy was caught in those, they'd probably become incredibly popular. Yeah. So, these things are so. We'll get Craig's from socks, spenders. Anyway, so, So Gabriel writes,
Starting point is 01:12:56 I think Heifitz's sock rules meltdown is perhaps the most unhinged crash out in the history of the show. You clearly haven't been listening for very long, dude. And Gabe Wright said, I feel compelled to release Heifitz from this panic prison he's built for himself. Ooh, did he build a rubric here?
Starting point is 01:13:16 Well, Gabriel writes, I am not a fashion expert. I am simply a stylish bisexual man. And this is tailored specifically to Danny Heifitz. Nice. Rule number one, long pants and or boots. If people aren't going to see your socks,
Starting point is 01:13:30 doesn't matter one bit. Okay. This guy assumes my pants in the right length, which right there, you know? Well, you have to factor in that when you sit down, sometimes your socks are exposed.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Yes, as I have learned over the years. So, Gabriel writes, rule number two, color matching, light with light, dark with dark, black only with black shoes. Okay. I'm like okay. Rule number three, socks as an accessory.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Here's the one upgrade you did to make to your wardrobe that's really going to open things up for you. Cute, colorful, patterned, socks white and black, not nearly enough variety in your sock drawer. Fun socks always work. As long as they have at least one common color with the rest of the outfit, they're perfect for a blue suit, brown shoes combo. I do have fun socks. Yeah. I have worn fun socks to the live shows. I think fun socks actually work more with a suit than they do with regular clothing.
Starting point is 01:14:20 I think that's true. So Gabriel finishes this with fun socks. We're also a great conversation starter. and we know High Fitz loves the conversation. So go nuts. Have fun with it. High Fitz take literally any woman or gay man with you to a target. Drop 30 bucks on fun socks. You won't regret it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:40 I have a sock brand that I'm in love with, but I want to get them to sponsor the show, so I'm not even going to say the name. But if you say the name, maybe they'll sponsor the show. Should I be sure to say the name? Yeah. Stance. They make the best fucking socks.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Stance? Oh, they're the best. Who is stance? What's so good about them? They are just the most comfortable socks. They last forever. Their athletic socks are phenomenal. Their regular socks are phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I love Stan's socks. They used to be like this official sock of the NBA. I don't know if they still are. They're the official sock of the MLB right now. MLB? Yes. Phenomenal socks. You know, the NBA is how I got in this mess.
Starting point is 01:15:14 Nominal socks. I think my crisis of confidence started two years ago and John Wall, John Wall gave some random interview talking about how I think he was like, I think people who, I can't remember exactly what he said. He basically was like people who wear socks and shoes that are different colors should be shot. He didn't actually say that. But I heard him say, he's like, I literally think people are crazy if your socks don't
Starting point is 01:15:36 match your shoes. And I just, I think I actually haven't been. I've had the yips ever since then. I'm on this site right now. There's kind of fun socks on it. They're not cheap. But let me tell you, they will last you four times longer than whatever cheap socks you buy.
Starting point is 01:15:51 So it'll end up being worth your money. See, right yet, there's so many. lengths. Oh my God. What is the midcaf for? Okay. Let's calm down. What length do I get? Gabriel again? Is it Gabriel? How tall do they go? Just email Gabriel. I'm going to email. Gabriel. I'm going to email. I'm going to fucking said Gabriel's this goddamn site. I couldn't remember. Gabriel, go to wide open, it's wide open socks.com. Take this offline with Gabriel. I'm telling you. We don't need to. Sidebar with Gabe. Yeah. There's so many, there's heights. What are these four? Gabriel. Hi, Fitz is
Starting point is 01:16:25 going to call you at home. And then Gabriel, please provide us with your phone number. Let's go to Target. It's just like, there's so many lengths. There are. Which do I want? Just pick one.
Starting point is 01:16:41 That's been the problem. It shows you how high up on your leg they go. I don't know which one is appropriate. Just pick one. That's been the problem, D.K., just pick one. And then people are like, those are wrong. You've had a girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:16:55 for a long time. What does she say? Fianza, she's just like... Sorry, I'm saying. You've had a partner for a long time. What does she say? She's overwhelmed by this. Can she not advise you on your socks? She's supportive. Okay. What does that mean? She's understanding. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:17:13 She agrees. Like, this is a cry for help. She's like, yeah, you need help. Why doesn't she every time you get dress to wear those? She's not good. She's not holding his hand when he gets dressed. She's decided that she's going to help me with my sock crisis. She's going to take the wheel. Crisis. Gabriel and her, I sent to see him to her. She was like, this is pretty great. I agree actually with Gabriel now. This is the most unhinged thing you've ever done. It sucks. I know. I can't spend my time on this anymore. Just pick one. On the scale
Starting point is 01:17:47 of like insignificant. Which color? Because they have to match your pants. I don't care. It doesn't matter. Just pick one. You're thinking about it too much. You're doing too much. I get why Jim Harbaugh is sick closing. You can wear less. You can wear white socks like 90% of the time. You'll be fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:02 You just got to do less. Yeah, I don't care what John Wall thinks. Fuck you, John Wall. Yeah. He might be listening too. John Wall, you fucked me up with the socks. Can match my shoes. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Why can't you just match your socks with your shoes? Because you're supposed to match it with your pants. That's what someone else emailed in. And I'm like, you have to factor in both. Do you guys think that a single professional athlete has ever listened to one second of our show. By accident, for sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I'm not talking about Instagram. I'm saying hit play on like Apple or Spotify or YouTube. I think certain athletes that we have shit talked have been sent segments of us talking shit. For sure. We about to talk shit. But I'm sure like active players. I don't know. Anyone who's played professional sports.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Honestly, if Otani was listening, that'd be great. Not Otani, probably. Since he speaks English. Anyway, one more email here. Let me get out of here. Well, actually, maybe we just ended the socks. It could be this one tomorrow. We have to have a pallet cleanser.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Come on, do we one more. All right, fine. This is a great update on just the general, like, hooking up stories we've been doing for the last couple weeks. Okay. This is from, I'm going to, the guy didn't redact his name.
Starting point is 01:19:23 I was like, I'm going to redact your name for you, buddy. You know who you will. So this is like 1996, this story. Pre-internet, this is essential. Email is like 22, 23 years old. He's work in New York City. At the time? Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Yeah, sorry, yeah. Yes. 22 in 1996. He would be quite young. He would be zero then. Now like 50 years old. Craig, do you want to get my fucking calculator again? All right?
Starting point is 01:19:49 Quite young. You'd be quite young in 1996. So, yeah. So email is, I'm out in East Village. with coworkers. I meet someone. Place is dark, filled with smoke. She and I, we hit it off. Eventually, the co-workers are ready to move.
Starting point is 01:20:05 So I told her I'm leaving. She says she would come along. We'd go to the next spot. Back to someone's house, nightcap. Eventually, she comes back to my place with me. We hook up. And he literally writes, by hook up, I mean, we have sex. Like, congrats.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Congrats on the sex. And he's like, I'm 22 years old. And let me tell you, this woman rocked my world. And it wasn't my first. experience ever, but at the time it was absolutely my best experience ever. And it's probably still like a top five sexual experience for me.
Starting point is 01:20:36 He's like, anyway, love the show. Where's this going? Well, there's a reason I'm reading it. I know it's a little. He says, she tells me I have potential, which I think is a little funny or weird. And she's, so we hook up on and off for like several months. And it was quite, it was pretty casual.
Starting point is 01:20:55 and he says she taught me a lot which made sense because I figured she was like 35. Oh, okay. So late one Friday night, he says my parameder. He didn't ever find out how old she was? Well, he says late one night. Oh. My paramour comes over. We hook up. She's in the kitchen
Starting point is 01:21:11 the next morning. I know. My fuck, buddy. Yeah. She's in the kitchen the next morning and she sees this Polaroid picture on my fridge or on the table. And it's like the Polaroids of my sister and step siblings. And she says,
Starting point is 01:21:27 Oh, no. Picks up. She's like, what is this photo? Oh. And I'm like, is this my sister and our step siblings? She's like, are their names? And then gets the names right. And he's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:21:40 How do you know their names? She's like, these are my kids. What? Oh. He was fucking his stepfather's ex-wife. Wow. So, wait. So, not.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Nothing wrong with that, technically, right? That related, not related. Hold on here. Just running a few calculations. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Get out of my calculator one more time.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Okay. So, wait. The children, so this woman's kids were like, they were young kids in a photo. Yeah, yeah. So his mom, divorced. Yeah. Marry's a guy. Stepdad.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Stepdad has a previous family as well. Right. So all the stepchildren are like roughly the same age. But he never ended. up meeting their stepmom. Like he never, it was like the internet, like pre-internet never even saw a photo of the stepmom.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Right, that makes sense. Why would you? So it's a step-siblings mom. It's the, yeah, the step-sibling. Yes. Oh. But he had a relationship with the step, like, and he fucked her mom like a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Like, did he live in the same house with the step-siblings for an extended period of time? No, they live with her. I don't like you saying fucked her mom a lot. Don't say that. Have some decorum. he made sweet, sweet love to their mom. To the paramour.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Anyway, I thought this was unbelievable. He dined him and dined him. Oh, God. Hell, that's okay. That is wild. So anyway, I didn't read this at the beginning of the email. But the step siblings lived with the mom, so they didn't live together in the same house. Not that it really matters, but that's just like.
Starting point is 01:23:23 No, no, no, no. No, they did not. But now I'll reach you the beginning because I thought it would be. too spoiled. But the beginning of this was I can't believe I'm going to reveal this to your listeners, but I'm going to come clean to something I've told nobody.
Starting point is 01:23:36 He's never told anyone this. And I think he was like actually pretty excited, because this is a 30 years ago. And he was like, I'm actually pretty excited to like finally share this and get this off my chest. And he says, you have full permission to tell the story. I am redacting his name. He was like, say my name. It's 30 years ago. I'm like, I'm not going to say your name. He wants you to say his name.
Starting point is 01:23:54 He does. Say it. It's really unique. Well, okay. It's 30 years ago. He told you to say it. Why are you redacting it? Let me just double check.
Starting point is 01:24:03 He said read my name. I don't think you need to, you don't need to protect. He knows what he's doing. So wait. It's called him. His mom's, B-bone.
Starting point is 01:24:14 It's his mom's boyfriend's ex-wife. His mom's, no, his mom's husband's husband. Not his father's ex-wife. His stepfather's ex-wife. his stepfather's ex-wife. Did they enter, how did that go? Was that discovered in the family?
Starting point is 01:24:31 Did he have a conversation with the stepdad? Like, hey, I see why you married, Cindy. What a firecracker. Like, how did that go? I'm glad you have. Craig, have some decorum. Firecrackers. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:43 I'm glad you asked that question, Craig. He said, as soon as, again, she's holding a photo of her kids. And she's like, oh, my God, these are your step kids, your step brothers and sisters. He says, I think I went into a, coma when she said this. What does she do?
Starting point is 01:25:00 He says, I literally don't remember anything else. I kind of came to and she was just gone and I literally never saw her again. Wow. And then he never told anyone about this ever. She chloroformed him and left. Yeah. I guess that's fair that he said no one. I never told anyone about this until this show right now 30 years ago.
Starting point is 01:25:19 He kept that to himself? Yes, he says he's never told anyone this. Wow. Not even like an incredible restraint. Why are you telling us? Because he's clearly been weighing on it. Just wanted to get it off his chest. You didn't do anything wrong.
Starting point is 01:25:32 No, I don't think so either. No. It's definitely just like kind of an awkward thing with your step siblings. It's unbelievable bad luck, but nothing wrong. Well, he had a good time. But yeah, no, it's pretty insane. I mean, think about the things that she taught him.
Starting point is 01:25:49 And her lifetime of lessons. God. They know the same moods now. Oh, God, Craig, don't do that. Oh, no, don't make that connection, Craig. Right. Yeah. See, can you imagine this after?
Starting point is 01:26:02 Because it's the key, it's not one time. It's like several months. And she's like, who are these? How do you know my children? So this woman must have been significantly younger. Oh, oh, not 30. She was 45. He was wrong with the age.
Starting point is 01:26:16 She was old. Oh, she was 45. He was, yeah, he's 22-year-olds. Don't know how old people fucking are. He thought, like, oh, he's the same way. Ask a 22-year-old at work. You're like, how old do you think I am? Like, you won't like.
Starting point is 01:26:26 the answer. Like, they can't get anything right. I guess so. 22-year-old. People, like, it's like, they don't know how old people are. Craig just. I'm like, I guess. Like, if I went to Kai and I was like, how old is Sean
Starting point is 01:26:40 fantasy? It's Kai going to be like, oh, 64. I don't know. I don't know. Well, he was wrong. He's the point. I don't know. It was dark. I don't know. Yeah, I guess. Well, it's dark. They hooked up for months. Yeah. That's a great story. That is a phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:26:58 an all-time email right there. Yeah. Shout up B-bone. Man. Okay. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Greg. Wait, before we go, I want to shout out.
Starting point is 01:27:07 We just put up our rewatchables on Monday night with Glenn Powell. Yeah. We did the Truman show with Glenn Powell. And it was great. He honestly crushed it. He's the best celebrity guest we've ever had. So go listen to that. Boomtown.
Starting point is 01:27:18 That's not even a shameless plug. When I asked how it went, you said, best celebrity guest we've ever had. That was your actual reaction. He was clearly prepared. We had heard that he had listened to the show before that he was a fan of the show. He was not lying. He knew all the categories,
Starting point is 01:27:32 had like a full dock of notes. Did he know what Apex Mountain was? Yeah, I mean, as best as anyone can, yeah. That's sick. That's, he's in on the bit. Yeah. Like, he was like throwing out the jargon. He's like, oh, my Dian waiters is this guy.
Starting point is 01:27:45 Joey Pants? Oh, no, this is the Joey Pants. It was great. All right. Well, there you go. Glad Powell, rewatchables. Cool. Thank you, DK.
Starting point is 01:27:52 Thank you, Kren. Thank you to this guy for reading this email. This email. This incredible. Thank you to Gabriel, who, just is going to be my sock consigliary going forward. I was going to email this motherfucker from any store. I mean,
Starting point is 01:28:04 he doesn't know what he signed up for. Thank you to that maniac Luke. Is it Luke or Sean drinking the athletic? Luke drinking the the combination of a sugar-free 24-ounce of monster and an alcoholic-free beer
Starting point is 01:28:19 at like 8 in the morning. I feel like you kind of figured it out. I can't tell if this guy's just mainlining the secret his like secrets to the universe or what? Did Luke kind of discover the secret sauce of the universe? I feel like you did.
Starting point is 01:28:34 No sugar, no alcohol, but you're crushing beers and monster or something like that? What the fuck? It's kind of on to love. Pizza, yeah. I tell people I don't drink alcohol and I don't have sugar. What do you eat for breakfast? He's on like a 9 a.m. Zoom call and he's like
Starting point is 01:28:52 cracking the athletic brewing. He's like, so catch me up. Where are we at? Those numbers come in yet? Thank you, Lauren. Lord. Thank you, Natasha Beddingfield. Oh, my God, dude.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I think the wedding, was at this weekend, like, when that song comes on. Unwritten? Yeah, it's just, it's just, I think it's actually become borderline top 10, maybe even a top five crowd pleaser for at least our specific age. Really? It's really up there for white people wedding songs. Yeah, the white people, like gets white women going. play, which is always like, if you ever
Starting point is 01:29:29 struggling what to play, if you have to DJ, you just type it like songs that get white women excited. It's just like, it always hits. I agree. Mr. Brightside for men. Brightside for men. Yeah. Yeah. Unwritten is Brightside for, for, for, also. Craig, that was an homage to your boy, though.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Well, I was going to say to tie it all together. That song is featured heavily in anyone but you, the Glenn Powell Rock Kong. Is that why you did that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. What do you like about that movie? Yeah, what do you like about the movie, D.K. I mean, I think it's a fun rom-com. A lot of really good-looking people that run around on the beach and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:30:08 That is true. Craig, did you have any thoughts on City's Swedish Dress? I don't know what you're talking about. Glenn Powell. Sal and I talked about it at length on the Friday Gambling show. I thought it was really cool. She has a Bob. I like the haircut.
Starting point is 01:30:26 I think City Sweetie's haircut. was a good look. I think there's a better rom-com that Glenn Powell has been than anyone but you. It's called Set It Up with him and Zoe Dutch. That movie's a better rom-com, I need to see that.
Starting point is 01:30:38 It's really good. Set it up? Set it up? 18? I'm not letting us get off this. I clicked on the Sydney-Sweeney Instagram and I actually just looked through all my friends. I was like, who liked this?
Starting point is 01:30:49 And I wanted, I actually, and I just looked through it. I was like, what friends do I know that have liked this photo? I will never understand why people like those photos. You cannot explain it to me. It doesn't make sense. They like the attention?
Starting point is 01:31:02 From who? They're friends? I don't know. So I'm going to throw someone under the bus and they have the power to remove this. No, I can't because Carlos liked the photo. And if he doesn't want that in the show, he can fucking delete it. Oh, my God. This is the greatest moment of my life.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Why? I don't know why. Why? Is you going to see it? What's the goal? Because he liked it, Craig? It's free to look at Does Carlos dare want to come on right now
Starting point is 01:31:32 And explain himself Carlos is going to delete that shit This shit's not making the show I genuinely have no idea What you're talking about? What? What are you talking about? Smart play, smart play.
Starting point is 01:31:45 Deny, deny, deny, deny. The reason it took him so long to get here is because he had to go unlike it. Yeah, he had to go unlike it. He had to go unlike it. He's like, get rid of the paper trail. The internet doesn't forget. Hold on. Did I screenshot this? I think I did. Let's see here.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Which pick what which one are you talking about? Sydney Smith. You ever heard of her? Yeah, I know. I follow her. I think. Yes, I do. 25 million followers. So you're telling me there's a chance. Oh, I'm wrong. He does. It's definitely not Carlos. You fall. You're wrong? He didn't like the photo? He follows her. Oh, hi Fitz. There's a very big difference. thought I had him that was good
Starting point is 01:32:35 oh my god no I'm sorry confused even better Rick Johnson liked it and you thought it was Carlos you know because he he follows her but yeah you know brick Johnson might be in the same circles for all we know Rick Johnson should
Starting point is 01:32:49 like brick Johnson should actually slide in like that if anyone's gonna like that it's someone named brick Johnson yeah brick Johnson should in fact slide in that would be smart all right Carlos I'm sorry to slander you yeah Jesus he left he's got
Starting point is 01:33:06 he's unfollowing I'm just trying to figure out if I'm like going to remove this conversation from the bottom oh my god that's so funny okay
Starting point is 01:33:19 all right well wrong again I Fitz confused Brick Johnson and Carlos well no it's because I had the photo and it was like I confused
Starting point is 01:33:28 that the followed by tab and the like tab and I guess I'm a boomer I wanted to believe. All right. Well, God, that was good. Carlos is going to make me look like an idiot in this edit and every edit going forward. He has that power.
Starting point is 01:33:46 He does. All right. Well, Natasha Benafield. Yeah. I guess we should do say now for when he edits that all out. Right. Right. So check out, set it up, D.K., it's a good run.
Starting point is 01:33:56 Check out. Set it up. Great movie. Lucy Lou, Tay Diggs, Zoe Dutch, who's great in it. I'm in. Wait, also, what's the thing he's promoting? He's promoting Chad Powers? What is he promoting?
Starting point is 01:34:08 No, he's promoting The Running Man, which comes out in a couple weeks. Nice. It's an egg remake. Remake of Ardenal Schwarzenegger, right? It's a remake of the Schwarzenegger movie, but it's based on a Stephen King book. Apparently, the Schwarzenegger movie
Starting point is 01:34:19 is really not at all super close to the book, but this movie apparently is much more authentic to the book. Who else is in it? Josh Brolin. Oh, Edgar Wright. Oh, this is the Edgar Wright movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the Glenn Powell movie.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Michael Sarah? Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Oh, wow. Sean Hayes, Coleman, Domingo, Josh Brolin. Damn, okay. Yeah. Here we go.
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