The Ringer NFL Show - Bryce Young Benched and Waiver Wire Pickups for Week 3

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

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What's up everybody. Syriot Sohey from the Ringer here, and I wanted to let you know about a new show that I'm hosting, the Ringer WNBA show. We're breaking down and analyzing the latest happenings in the W, the personalities, the people who make the league as fascinating as it is, and we're going to be featuring some of the best guests and experts from around the league. Tap in with us every Friday through the end of the season over on the Ringer NBA show feed on Spotify

or wherever you get your podcasts. Football show, my name is Danny Hypeets. I am joined by Danny Killing and Craig Horlewreck. And today we are going through our must add players after week two. Here's how this is going to work. We're going to go position by position. We're each going to give our top pick at that position. And if each of us, or any of us, pick the same player,

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And also Sundays, we're also taking Sunday categories. We're doing this live on the Sunday show too. So, boom, emails from your fancy football at gmail.com. And for the trivia, it's got to be a number, a year, a date, whatever, anything we can get wrong in an order. I think we just got to dive into waivers today in a moment. But first, Bryce Young got benched. Yeah. Just going to dive right into that to start.

D.K., Panthers head coach Dave Canales says bench Bryce Young. Are you surprised that this has happened already, D.K. It's a little surprising that they, have given up on this experiment so quickly. But, I mean, if you look at what they did on the field, it's not that surprising. So I would say overall, like it felt like Canales was hired to fix Bryce Young. And they're already giving up on that, apparently, you know, after two games. Can't do it. Can't do it.

Can't do it. So that's surprising. But ultimately, like, you know, there's been a lot of talk. Like, he's going to lose the locker room if they don't make a change here. Like, the offense was by far the worst in the NFL through the first two weeks. like they were non-viable as an offense, basically. Craig, you have you have a condo. Have you tried to fix anything?

I'd give it up like immediately so far. Call the experts. I renovated a lot of this condo and I did it without a contractor. And it was a disaster. And so the quarterback is the contractor of an NFL offense. So if you don't have a good contractor, you're screwed. Well, yeah, so yeah, Dave Canales said that he benched, he basically watched the tape and they benched him.

We went to Andy Dalton. I agreed, Dickens, like, you're going to lose the locker room because it's not a serious thing. Dave Canales was asked if, Panthers owner, David Tepper, had any involvement in the decision to which Dave Canales said, and I quote, I'm going to keep that private. He should have been like, you're an adult. Do you take a guess? Yeah.

This also wasn't Dave Canales' experiment. He was not on this team when they drafted Bryce Young. So I feel like, you know, it's not working out. You can't lose the locker room. Andy Dalton is a viable starter. This probably makes sense. It's an absolute brutal. I mean, this is now going down.

It already was. but this is getting worse and worse every single day in terms of all-time bad trades and all-time bad first-round picks. Not only did they give Caleb Williams to the Bears, they passed up on C.J. Stroud, taking Young first while Stroud went second. There's so much to this trade that is so brutal

for TEPA, the Panthers, and Bryce. This is, you're 100% agree, Craig. This is the black star, black hole collapse that other teams are going to point to or be afraid of. Like, this is probably going to, frankly, be what owners, coaches, GM, are afraid of for the next five to ten years is like we don't want to end up like those guys.

You know what I mean? And I mean, there's also there's so many stats. It almost feels like we're picking on them, but just one that stood out to me this morning of just how bad this has been. Bryce Young became the third player in the past 20 seasons to average four fewer yards per dropback and four straight starts.

That one really. And then also just what Austin, Austin Gale here at the ringer told me yesterday what I couldn't believe of just the panthers success rate on offense the first two weeks of the season was the worst. Any team has had since the Texans, in 2002 when they were added as an expansion team.

So, I mean, that's, yeah, it's like you can't look the other 52 guys on the roster and be like, yeah, go out there and try really hard. Like it just put your health at risk for this, you know. I feel. So the Panthers are going to go with Andy Dalton. We can get to like what's next at them in a moment. I think it's worth lingering though on this on the, on just the trade for a moment because I kind of have like kind of a hot take.

I'm not going to lie. I've, so obviously the Panthers trade is going to go down in history, right? because they could have give up, you know, they gave it basically D.G. Moore, a first, two seconds, Caleb Williams, and all you got was Bryce Young.

I'm not going to lie. I think the trade was fine. The problem, like the trade's going to go down in history. The problem was that they took Bryce Young over C.J. Stroud. Because if they had taken CJ Stroud, which is, from what I understand,

what Frank Reich, the coach at the time wanted to do, from what I understand, to what Josh Mcown, the quarterback's coach at the time wanted to do. They wanted Stroud. And from what I understand, David Temper wanted Bryce Young.

Maybe I'm wrong on that. Because of the S2 test. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And so what I understand, David Teper wanted Bryce Young over Stroud. If Steechie Stroud had he been even 70% as good in Carolina as he was in Houston, we're like, wow, he's really good. And they probably don't deliver the number one pick to the Bears.

I actually think there's an alternate world. The Panthers took Stroud. We're all like, wow, Chicago could have had Stroud and now they have the fifth pick and they have to trade up to get Drake May or something. This could have played out very differently. We're going to make fun of them forever for the trade. but passing on Bright, like taking Young over Stroud, I think, is the actual lesson to learn, to be honest. Well, it's like, how good was that QB class now looking back?

Like, I know, I remember a year before that draft, it was kind of seen as though Stroud was the guy. And then the season, you know, the college football season went by. And then it was kind of like, oh, is it Bryce Young? Is it C.J. Stroud? Is there a third person in the mix? Do you feel like, D.K., that the Panthers felt so strongly that Bryce Young was the guy that they traded up for it? Or do you think David Tepper was like, I want to be relevant. I want to make a splash.

I don't really care who was the number one quarterback in the draft. I just want to be taking the number one quarterback in the draft. Oh, man. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I feel like there was a thought at the time that they just can't keep doing what they're doing at all. You know, they just need to make a move. They need to do something big.

Which is always a bad sign when you're like, we don't feel super passionately about the guy we're taking. We just need to take somebody to like change the narrative and get some good vibes in the building. so people can write about us and have some confidence, even though we don't really think he's the guy. The other team that did that was the 49ers, who moves up to the third pick in 2021. I hate that process. And they didn't know, they were like,

Mac Jones or Trey Lance, one of them will be there, we'll figure it out later as opposed to having an opinion. They probably thought we're leaning Mac Jones changed their mind to Trey Lance. Turned out both were bad, and they could have just sat there and got Mac Jones if they wanted anyway.

I kind of contend that Mac Jones would have been good in the 49er system still. Yeah, I agree with that. But to the point, though, the Panthers, when they did this again, they got rid of Donald, they got rid of Baker Mayfield, you know, we don't have to crown Sam Donald, it's been two weeks, but

clearly the Panthers are the problem, you know, the Panthers are like, clearly David Temper, you know, not breaking new ground here, but the impatience as an owner has been astounding. And I don't know, I think that it's easy, you know, it's easy to point to the front office of the team or whatever, but like, from what I

understand, David Tepper wanted Bryce Young. And so, like, this is his problem. It's funny. The thing that I keep thinking and coming back to is, how crystal clear this feels in retrospect at the time. Like everybody was pretty high on Bryce Young. Like you know what I mean? Like I had him ranked really highly on my drive.

I had CJ short higher, but I still had Bryce Young really high. You had Stroud as your number. You had Stroud as your number one quarterback in that class. Yeah. And then, but like, and we talked about it at the time.

We're basically like, look, this guy is an all time outlier for his size. There's never even been a first round quarterback, his size taken in the first round at all, not to mention the first pick. Shortest quarterback ever and the, and the thinest and the lightest quarterback.

Because Kyler is obviously very sharp, but you're talking about combo, high, and weight. Because Bryce Young, even now is listed at 510, 204, and like, he was, he was probably 188, if we're being honest, when he was playing at Alabama. Kyler at least has some thick to him. I think at the time, we had very legitimate concerns about the lack of size, but we were so kind of enamored, I think, with his processing skills and everything like that, that we kind of looked past the very clear and obvious physical downside to this pick. And so now, obviously, two years later, or not even two years, a year later, you know, it's so very clearly was never going to work, I feel like. But, you know, that's, I guess the process. And, you know, especially, you know, Anthony Richardson also went in this draft,

who is like a polar opposite physically than Bryce, to Bryce Young. You know, he's still going through his growing pains as a, as a passer. But he certainly has much higher upside, much higher potential right now than Bryce Young, who feels like, it feels like his career is over. His career is not over. He might, he might get another chance, but this decision is monumental for his career.

And what's, and here's the thing, too, I think a perfect juxtaposition, because again, Kyler is 510 on paper, Bryce Young's 510 on paper. And what's,

you know, why is one guy maybe out of the NFL in a few years and Kyler Murray is, I mean, honestly, I think playing as well as almost anyone right now. Kyler Murray had that play this week where he dodged what felt like 17 defenders in the pocket

and then scrambled around and found Elijah Higgins that, tight end of the end zone. Carla Murray, the escapeability, the scrambling, he makes up for the height. The same way Drew Breez had this otherworldly footwork in the classic pocket passer style. Kyler Murray has a better version of what Russell Wilson had when he was young. Russell Wilson's short, can't really see over the offensive line.

But the scrambling, the improvisation is a 10 out of 10. Bryce Young, I mean, I think what got a bench. Shout out Stephen Reeves, who was on this. Like, I'm Bill Simmons podcast a couple weeks of saying this would happen. Stephen Reese is saying yesterday they're going to have to bench Bryce Young. And we're recording this on Monday, September 16th. but Stephen had a great thread. But basically, Bryce Young, he's on his tippy toes,

just like he was at Bama. But he's like, I'm talking like checkdowns, like third and 20 or fourth and three. Like he is really having to tipy toes just to throw a checkdown over the tackle. He's almost jump throwing like Derek Henry does at the goal line. He's like jump throwing over the offensive line to check it down to the running back in front of him.

And that's one of those where you're like, yeah, like how the fuck did we think this was going to work? A little bit of a dead dove, A little bit of a hindsight is 2020. Very much so. This is where I get my takes from like, we're like, oh, why are we so bad at picking quarterbacks? To me, there's two answers.

Part of it, there's no industry in the entire world that's good at hiring. Like, I've never heard of an industry where everyone's like, they get all those picks right. And the other one is they don't actually let the real job interviews would be if Bryce Young had come to OTAs. If the process was different and Bryce Young had spent three days at OTAs, the coaches would have watched it, but like, nope. Shadowing the veteran.

Yeah. Job shadow. Yeah, he wouldn't have been a first rounder. And actually, it's going the other way now where Marvin Harrison Jr. is like, I'm not doing any your little events. Exactly. But if they actually had to show up, then like, yeah, I think that the price show wouldn't have been a first rounder.

But yeah, you get into the cover. Yeah. It's like, your point is very true. It's so wild to me. And this still happens like all every year. And I, and you've heard GMs talk about it like where, you know, relatively high pick, first, second, third rounder pick. They come in and on day one at train, at not even training camp, like pre-training camp,

OTAs. They're like, oh, this was a bad pick. Like, this isn't going to work. Imagine all the work that went into that guy. Like the tape study, the background study, the analytical stuff, like all the combine stuff. And it's just all out the window immediately, like day one, they're like, oh, wait, this is a terrible pick. Yeah. So, I mean, in terms of what's next, so Andy Dalton's going to play for the Panthers, I actually think if you drafted like a Deontay Johnson and you've just been like sad.

I actually think the Panthers offense, it's not going to be great, but I think the Panthers will be. it'll be more functional. They might be fine. They might be okay. Like, we'll see what happens. But Andy Dalton, you know,

he's the exact opposite. He's going to be able to run a normal offense. So I think you- remember what Flacco did last year? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I think it's worth keeping an open mind.

Like that was Flacco with, I mean, the Brown's third string offensive line. It's not that far off with the Panthers. You know what I mean? There's something to be said. So we'll see what happens. The Panthers,

you know, they're not going to be as, you know, the Houston Texans level from 2002 that they were now. So, all right, Peter Bryce Young. You guys want to get to waivers? Let's do it. So again, we're doing this way.

We're going to go. Everyone's going to give their number one pick at each position. We'll do trivia tiebreaker. DK. A lot of injuries at running back this week. Isaiah Pacheco, the chiefs running back. Broken fibula, but I don't know if it's like a broken leg as much as I don't know exactly, but it's ankle. But we actually just got word. So he, Pacheco is going to be out approximately six to eight weeks and he's going to go an injured reserve. And then he wants to come back this season. But for fantasy purposes, I have no idea if Pacheco will be back earlier than like, I don't know, the playoffs. like the fantasy playoffs or maybe at all. So, anyway, so Pacheco's out.

We also currently don't know the status of Joe Mixon. Texan's running back. He got hurt. Last thing, really weird tackle, came back, left again. He could be fine in playing this week. He could be out for a month by the time you're listening to this. So check that. But given what we know right now, DK, who's your number one running back?

You would pick on waivers. Oh, my God. The chief situation, I think, is an absolute mess. I almost just want to stay away from it. You have to, I think, like, take your, like, throw a dart at one of these guys Samajai P-Rine, Carson Steele. There is a report out today that just happened that Kareem Hunt is coming into Kansas City for a visit.

C-EH, still in the picture. Somehow he's on the P-U-P list, so he'll be back after week four. The Chief situation is an absolute mess. I think I would lean very, very slightly that Somaget P. Wright is the guy over Carson-Steel because he's going to get most of the passing down work. But I think I'm just going to stay away from that whole situation in this case. I think I'm going to go instead. Oh man, I'm choosing between between two guys.

I guess I'm going to stick with Bucky Irving for the Buccaneers. You know, we talked about him on a previous show. He just continues to impress me with the way he runs the ball. He's cutting into Rashad White's snap load a little bit here. And he also, Rashad White also sustained a minor groin injury in this last game. And, you know, obviously those, he continued to play. He came back, but groin injuries are a little bit tricky. Well, the Giants kicker had a groin injury.

injury over the weekend. And that was fine. The groin injuries worry me. So I'm just, I'm, I'm kind of zinging when everyone else is zagging here. And I'm going to go with Bucking Irving for the Buccaneers. I just think he's looked good. He has 98 scrimmage yards on 18 touches. Rashad White has 129 scrimmage yards on 32 touches. And so, you know, as the season goes along, maybe we see that, that trend towards more of a 50-50 split. You're kind of like, you're, sitting out the day trading trend. You're like, this is like when everybody is on Robin Hood in the pandemic. And you're like, I'm just going to put my money in a mutual fund. And I'll check at the end of the year and Bucky Irving will be the right guy.

It's so hard with the Chiefs because, I mean, it's like, you're like, something's got to be there. Like, this is the Chiefs. I could have a running back. Yeah. This weird Carson Steel such a guy who really doesn't look that good.

He's like a fullback. He's a fullback. He literally has been talking about him as a fullback. He's a fullback with an alligator. He's a pet alligator. Yeah. To be honest, if I knew Joe Mixing was going to miss week two or week three, maybe week four,

I think I would pick Damien Pierce. Pierce didn't even play this week because he had a hamstring injury. He was limited this week. Cam Acres played, but Pierce has been the backup. If Aker's is, if, if Mixin is out, I'm taking Damien Pierce first, I think, out of any of these guys. Do you agree with that? It's funny you say that. If Mixing's out, I actually, I feel like Cam Acres will keep the job over Damian Pierce.

So it's just clear as mud this week, isn't it? Yeah, it's really hard. I think this is representative, though. We can't even agree on anything. I think that it's very strange. It's not, you know, this isn't a week to spend a ton of money on a waiver budget or whatever. But there's a lot of money. But there's a lot to do.

Like everybody will be adding all these guys. So it will be very busy. It's not going to be a quiet Tuesday night. My perspective on this that I think people should take away is that hopefully that because we're not at buy weeks yet, you're not actually urgent enough that you need to plug someone off waivers and plug them into your lineup for this week. Hopefully not. And so if you're able to take a longer term perspective view, I think you should do that.

Either that's claiming someone or keeping a waiver claim for higher, you know, if you can move up the ranks. To Craig's point, Dick, I'm curiously. I think Cam Acres actually ran really well in relief of Joe Mixon. And I actually think that Damien Pierce is not, I don't think he's played very well at all since the Texans went to this Kyle Shannon San Francisco 49ers scheme, which is what they run. And I just feel like Damien Pierce, I actually think he's still a good running back. But Cam Acres just did his job.

I don't know how he's coming off the Achilles injury and like running so well, but he is. He ran really hard. I feel like Cam Acres, I'd be surprised to see Damien Pierce come out of nowhere after not playing and then out playing Cam Acres. Meanwhile, Cam Acres has been played for McVeigh in the Rams and then the Vikings with Kevin O'Connell come to this. I just feel like he knows what to do

and he's running sharper, harder, more discerning. So I actually think Camacres would replace Mixin, but it's really hard. Yeah, and I mean, I don't disagree with you about the performance, but it just depends on what the coaches decide to do here. Like they came into the season with Damien Pierce as the backup. Yeah, Pierce is listed as the backup.

And I think he is better than Camakers. Camakers coming off two, back-to-back he also fumbled last night. On that note, all these fucking picks fumbled. Carson Steele fumbled. Carson Steele fumbled. Actually, if any team, it's like, you know, Bruce Ariens would just bench someone for the game if they fumbled.

Andy Reid's very forgiving of that. Deontay Foreman for the Browns fumbled at like the one yard line. Acres almost lost the game for the Texans. I mean, he fumbled on the four yard line. And that was to put the game away if he had held on the ball. Yeah, no, it's not like half the people we're going to talk about for running backs fumbled. So like that right there. but I so we'll see maybe this is all for not if mixing is fine and I so you know we'll see what happens

there but glad we could clear that up for people I vote acres but I to Craig's point you know it could be peers too I think if Mixon's okay just coming back to what D.K said about the chiefs I agree with you DK because it's so the chiefs I just feel like there is no one for one replacement with Pacheco and the answer's really simple Carson's steel will get the goal line work and if they're on the one yard line. I feel like Mahomes is not a quarterback sneak guy. They're like the anti-egals. And so they're probably going to be giving the ball to Carson Steel at the one yard line. But I also do not think the rookie fullback is going to be there like on all pass protection. That's what Samaji P. Ryan was signed for. So Samajip run is going to get all this passing down work.

Carson Steel is going to get the goal line work. And we'll see who gets the early down stuff. But part of me is like, I don't feel any of these guys are going to be reliable in any way. They're all going to be like flex week by week fill-ins if you're desperate. And you just hope they get a touchdown or not. And Carson-Ste. probably more likely to get a touchdown. So Majee P. Run is going to be more likely to get a bunch of catches. But like, it just feels more like whackamol than anything. It's not going to be like exciting.

They could sign Jerich McKinnon. They could get Kareem Hunt. Like I, it's not, I don't see this as some like awesome opportunity as much as just like, all right, you'll have this guy. You never know what to blame. Yeah, exactly. So, uh, so what do we doing? Are we do?

No trivia then because we'd all disagree on everybody. Well, I don't even. Hyvitz, who, so who is your selection? I actually would take Tide Chandler. the running back for the Vikings. Because I look at it. Yeah, why not? I like that.

Because here's why. It's similar to Bucky Irving in that you have, I think the Bucky Ervin thing makes a lot of sense because you have a two-man backfield. I don't think anyone has gotten a carry for the Buccaneers other than Bucky Irving and Rashad White. Rashad White is a great injury. You're like, all right, well, if he got,

Rashad White got hurt, Bucking Irving's going to be the guy to some extent. The difference to me is Tide Chandler, I think, is more advanced in his career. So he's like 26. If Aaron Jones is one of the oldest starting running backs in the NFL right now. Now that Rahim Moster is hurt. Aaron Jones is 2930 and like he, you know, he always has hamstrings or stuff. He's going to always be a limit. You got a little nicked up in this last game too.

Exactly. So I think Ty Chandler is a mix of you can play them in your flex. Like, you know, he got 10 carries for 82 yards this week. You can play Ty Chandler right now and you can survive. Flex with benefits. Ty Chandler, Bucky Irving. These other guys are exactly like you said. It's whack him all.

Maybe you'll hit on Smudge AP, right? Maybe Carson Steel will be the guy. maybe Kareem Hunt will be the guy Maybe a CEEH will be the guy But the difference is if Aaron Jones gets hurt I think Ty Chalner would be getting like a pretty good size work loan For Minnesota Yeah, exactly

So that's to me I think Ty Chilner you're kind of cheating and getting You know having your cake idiot too You could play Tide Chandler as soon as the buys start in week four But also yeah Aaron Jones probably gonna miss a game at some point I think I think I'm gonna go with Bucky Irving Oh yeah

I picked him last week I think I'm gonna stick with him again this week I think that makes sense I still would rather have Buck. And again, watch Carson Steel go and have three touchdowns this week or Samasha P. Ron. I know. They're playing Atlanta.

Yeah. And that's the thing. It's like, I think that the point is like you're not going to know. And also those are fine ads. If you're desperate for running back, you can go and get Carson Steel or Samajie Pryan. Would you rather have P. Ryan or steel next week? Let's say you have Joe Mixon. You have Isaiah Pacheco.

You need to fill in. Yeah, Chiefs are playing Atlanta. I would do, I would do P. I would do P. Ryan. I think P. Ryan will be on the field more because I think the chiefs are going to pivot to passing more. But I think Carson, steal is more likely to get a touchdown just because of the one or two yard line.

But I probably agree with DK. We're just, I mean, damn, if you look at, I mean, there's a whole wider passing conversation to have right now about the league. But if you just look at where Mahomes is throwing the ball right now, it's all within the line of scrimmage. I feel like it's just like one of those P runs. We don't have a name for this, but there's a type of running back that sometimes you just need like one drive where they just check it down to the running back like three times

and they get like 30 yards. And you're like, all right. That was like seven points in my PPR league. and like now I'm not going to like be embarrassed I played this guy. I think P. Ryan has that potential for like the one passing drive from a home just gets it all done. It's hard. It's going to be. It's not going to be cool or sexy because it's Kansas City.

Pryan hasn't played 10 snaps in a game this year. Well, they just signed him like three weeks ago. He's on the Mike Willis timeline. Like he was on the Broncos to like three and a half weeks ago. I think if it's next week I'm taking steel. I think long term maybe Pryan. So yeah. All right.

Cool. So yeah, we all agree on everything then. Do you want to do the Bucky Irving Showdown time or do you want to talk about a few other guys first? We'll do the showdown time

and we'll make someone else pick. What's nice here is like there's so many damn options even if we don't get Bucky Irvin. This is exactly the fight for Bucky Irvin versus one of those chiefs running back. All right. It is the Bucky Irving

showdown time. We just heard the gong in our ears. We don't get to hear that. Hell yeah, Kai. Kai has leveled up. Kai, you standback and son of a bitch. He didn't tell us that he could do that. This is from Luke.

Luke. How many ships and planes combined have disappeared to the Bermuda Triangle? Oh, great question. Ever? I don't think we're going up like Ponce de Leon. Ships and planes. Man.

Wow, this is a really hard question. I know. I know. I don't really know what to say. How many ships and planes have disappeared? The beauty of these questions is we never even have. having any fucking clue whether we're going to be like astronomically high or astronomically low.

And these are just like reported stories of planes and ships that were never found again? Sure. I mean, that's what disappeared means, I guess. Okay. I don't know. I got, D.K's going to say 700. Maybe. All right.

I guess, I guess I'm ready. Man, I got no idea here. Three, two, one. 55. No, shit. Fuck. I said 50. You said 50.

I said 500. DK's going big. All right, I got a nice window here. I got a nice window here. Wait, you know, we should do something where you get to change if you want, if you're freaked out. Is it going to be like 12? No, it's got to be more than that. The answer is 70.

Let's go. Damn. 50 ships, 20 planes. That's it. I mean, you know, that's a lot of ships, but still. We should say, all of recorded time. We're keeping track of all of our. trivia results this year. I believe each one of us got a win, got a tally last week.

So it was even heading into today. Carlos and Cai are keeping track for us. All right. So Craig, you get Bucky Irving. I'm taking Tide Chandler from the Vikings. You get Bucking every from the Buck. D.K., you have to pick someone else. So we talked about the Chiefs running backs. P. Ryan Carson Steele. You'd take P. Ryan and the Chiefs, would you take him over. Is there anyone else you'd consider? I mean, the other people that I would consider are either Damien Pearson came anchors, like we mentioned. Braylin Allen for the Jets, who, to me, me as more of just a really high outside

handcuff at this point. Blake Corum still out there, just the way the the ram season's going. Just saying, just saying. If you're trying to, like, add the upside profile of your bench, if basically you have two or three running back because you don't need to play any of these guys, but you want to just have like one guy at the end of your bench. I think Braylin

Allen's the guy to have on the end of your bench because I mean, so he had seven carries, 33 yards in a touchdown, and he had two catches, 23 yards in a touchdown. He's amazing. He's big. He's 6'1. He's 2, 35. He's fast. He looks really good. They actually used Bruce Hall as a decoy on one of the plays where Braylon Allen scored. If Briece Hall got hurt, I think we would have to rank Braylon Allen in the top 15, like every

week that Bruce Hall got hurt. Yeah, these backups where it's like, they will be the guy and get the bulk of the carries. You can't really, there's nobody on the chief or you can say they will for sure get 20 carries in a game. If Braylon Allen is playing, Blake Corum is playing and Kyron Williams goes down, like, I think you can slot those guys in for like heavy double-digit carries. So it's easily the best long-term play you can make if your team is okay right now. And Braylon Allen is the youngest NFL player to score touchdown since Arnie Herber.

He's the youngest player in the NFL full stop. He's 20 years old, right? Arnie Herber, who was born in 1910. He was Arnold Charles Flash Herber. That's cool. All right. Well, I really like the Braylon Allen one as a stash, but I'm going to just say, Smajai P. Ryan, and take a stab at this Chiefs backfield.

I don't feel super confident about it as we've fully discussed. But I'm going with P-Rine just an edge over Carson's steel here right now. And then keep an eye on Cream Hunt, obviously, this week. I'm guessing they'll probably sign them to their practice squad. And then, like, two weeks down the line, Cream Hunt, it's like starting for them. You know what I mean? But if we're just talking about this next week, I guess I'm going to go with Pryan. The other person just wanted to mention, too, is just Deonté Foreman for the Browns,

who had one snap in week one, one snap. And Deonté Foreman led the Browns and touches in week two. And twice as many touches as Jerome Ford. and then he fubbled near the goal line. I didn't think he looked great. No, he had twice as many carries half as many yards as Jerome Ford. I don't understand what they're doing. I don't get it either because he's super north south.

And then you watch Deonti Foreman and you're like, okay, you can't know south. He watched Jerome Ford. Jerome Ford looks has so much juice. He looks like, yeah, it looks like Deonté Foreman hit the quicksand and Mario card or whatever. Like he's running on the grass. And then Jerome Ford's whizzing by in the actual pavement. But then I don't know why. But I mean, if that keeps up, like, Deontte Foreman at a deeper league is like viable.

But like, I don't know. It's really strange to me. Also, Antonio Gibson, keep him on your radar. If Ramandre Stevenson ever got nicked up, he could be potentially very valuable. So another deep stash type guy. I don't think you probably want to start him. He did have 11 carries in this last game, though. All right.

Any of the running backs, he guys want to go to receiver. It's got a receiver. Kind of a bloodbath at wide receiver. Yeah. Jeez. So we didn't even mention the Sunday to show the AJ Brown drama of like eventually he was ruled out before Monday football, but right at the buzzer for news. I think it was a lot of stress that AJ Brown, we didn't know if he's going to play or not.

So he's out for Monday of football. We're recorded this before Monday at football. Cooper Cup got injured before halftime of the Cardinals blowout. We still don't know exactly what's up with Cooper Cup. Hollywood Brown for the Chiefs is out for the season. Justin Jefferson is the thigh bruised. He's probably okay. And then Tyree Kill and Jalen Waddle, like, they're healthy, but the Tua.

He's in the concussion protocol. We've no idea what's going to happen there. So just overall, crazy start the season for receiver. Obviously, Pooka de Koo is on IR. Amon Rae St. Brown hurt his name? He's banged up and he's playing, but he's clearly not 100%. And another wide receiver injury that happened right after we stopped recording is Debo Samuel, who apparently has a calf strain and will miss a couple weeks, you know,

just like Christian McCaffrey missed just the preseason with his calf strain. So if we had known that, we definitely would have talked about Joanne Jennings as a potential ad for the 49ers or for your fantasy team because Joanne Jennings would be one of the next man up for the 49ers. Craig says that Joanne Jennings might have been his top receiver pick. I don't know if Deakin I would have had Joanne Jennings as our number one receiver pick this week, but Joanne Jennings would absolutely be in the conversation with these top ads, especially considering we don't know how long the timeline will actually be with

Debo. So if we had known that, we would have talked more about Joanne. Okay, back to the rest of the show. Packers wide receivers are like essentially dead with Malik Nebuch Willis until Jordan Love comes back. Yeah, until Jordan Love comes back, you're just totally rolling the dice with the Packers guy. It's just been totally crazy stuff at receiver. Having said that, I think the difference is it's not necessarily one-to-one where a receiver goes down and then you can be like, Oh, well, you add this guy and it'll be like that. It's a little harder with receivers. So with that said, DK, who's your number one receiver you would add this week?

To Marcus Robinson from the Rams feels like the highest floor slash potentially even highest ceiling guy on the waivers right now. He's gone from the Y receiver 3 to the Y receiver 1 on the Rams in the process or in the in two weeks basically. Fuck, I just became the most important guy at work. Yeah, Pooka Nakua is gone for, I mean, at least four weeks. It sounded like maybe even longer than that. I don't know exactly what Cooper Cups' diagnosis is right now. He could be out multiple weeks. But to Marcus Robinson all of a sudden is like the number one guy,

and it feels like Stafford has pretty good trust with him. He adds an element of explosiveness. They pass to him down the field. Yeah, he's just kind of the obvious guy standing here right now. The last guy standing in the Rams offense. I also think Tyler Johnson and Tutu Atwell are worth stabs, you know, on the waiver wire if you can't get Robinson. but I would put Robinson first on that list.

What do you think, Craig? I did the same thing. DeMarcus Robinson is a little bit proven. 2-2 is as well a little bit. But last year we saw this in the latter half of the season with DeMarcus Robinson. He was actually like a top 20 guy as Cooper Cup and Pook and Nukkah were banged up at the end of last season. I mean, they're playing the Niners this week. Like, in general, the Rams should probably just like take a week off.

I think they should just like skip this week. But DeMarcus Robinson led the team in Rout's run on week two. 92% snaps, 87% routes per team dropback. So he's running a route on 87% of the times they throw the ball. I'm curious to you guys think. Generally speaking, for week two, the standard of week two, I feel worse about this group of receivers than I have it a minute. Like I don't feel...

It was bad, yeah. Like, I think that the bar for who you would cut for these guys, I think is lower than it would usually when we talk about. I don't know about you guys, but like, I don't feel... Like, I agree with everything you guys said. I think DeMarcus Robinson's the safest guy in the Rams. the Rams are going to need the most, especially if Cooper Cubs out. But I look at the Rams that I'm like, this team just might just be awful.

Like there was a stretch a couple years ago where Stafford was just throwing for like 190 yards every week. And like it was kind of a mess. The Rams offensive lines are mess. Even they get Alarick Jackson back at Lift Tackle this week. I'm kind of like it might be a little bit of a disaster. I think DeMarcus Robinson is the most trusted. Tyler Johnson's the most talented Jordan Whittington seems like he tries the hardest.

So I don't know. It might just be a lack of malcolm all there. Just bless his heart. Yeah. But I, yeah. So I guess DeMarcus Robinson. Craig, I'm not going to lie. I thought you were going to take Quentin Johnson for the Chargers.

Five catches, 51 yards, two touchdowns. I thought about it. They're playing the Steelers this week in Pittsburgh, and I don't know. This could be really funny throughout the rest of the season if this works out. I think right now where my head is at is like, look, DJ Charks on IR, Palmer was banged up. He was even in the medical tent during the game. Ladd McConkey's a rookie, and he's coming on. He's actually been pretty good the first two weeks.

I think there's two worlds. One is five weeks from now. It's like Ladd has emerged. Chark is back in the mix. Palmer's healthy and playing all right and Quentin Johnson kind of moves back to the four slot where everybody thought he would be. And then the other world is that

this is a first round talent that they've actually figured out and he's kind of adjusted to the NFL level and actually has some chemistry with Herbert and he is the most physically gifted player catching passes on this team and he's a real guy. I don't think Quentin Johnson is good. I think this will probably be the best game he has the entire season.

Having said that, I think that my brain is telling me to agree with you guys. Go to Marcus Robinson. he's in theory the best receiver on the Rams, he's going to play. My gut is kind of like, what if I'm wrong about Quentin Johnson? Because he's the first round pick in his second year. We've seen the story over and over and over again where the first run pick, you didn't think was good, comes back, has the second year, gets a little bit of confidence, which I think

we forget how much that matters. And new coach, all this stuff. And we're like, yeah, but he sucks. I'm like, yeah, but we always think these guys are bad. That's why they're free. Hi, Fitz, you have to, I do this all the time. You have to hedge against your own biases. Yes.

Even if I don't like a guy and think he sucks, sometimes I'll pick him up and just. be like, just going to let's see how this goes. See how this works out. That's kind of where I'm at. If you have someone on your bench that you're kind of sick of, like, you know, if you had had a freaking Jeff Wilson, and then you're like, all right, well, he had two carries on Thursday and he got hurt anyway.

It doesn't even matter. Like cutting his ass, no matter what. I think Quentin Johnson is that I will take Quentin Johnson just because if I have to cut him next week and he does nothing versus the Steelers, as Craig said, Palmer could, Palmer is going to get healthier, you know, Ladman Kanky will come back, DJ chart. But if Quentin Johnson has another good game against the Steelers, thing, like, oh, shit. So I think

I would take Quentin Johnson because I think there's more upside. But I also don't want to play up this week. I just don't think I can, in good conscience, select Quentin Johnson. After your summer of Palmer. After my summer of Palmer. Nobody should play Quentin Johnson this week. But I would add him just because I think that the upside,

there's more upside to me of a first rounder in his second year for the rest of the season. But I'll take, but I guess maybe I'm cheating. One little tidbit that I saw from FantasyPoint.com today, 39% first read target rate for Quentin Johnston, which is third most among all receivers in the NFL. That's a small sample. We're in dangerous territory where five weeks from now,

Quentin Johnson might just be like good. Yeah, probably not, but you never know. You know, just a little hedge. Okay. So we have a we've showdown time now. That's right. Thank God it's not the Quentin Johnson showdown time. It is the Demarcus Robinson showdown time.

D.K. doesn't put the hands up anymore. He used to. I am. I'm doing it. Oh, are you? Oh, okay. Sorry. The gong hits like,

Tompun. It's kind of like I was a premature on the whole hand movement thing. Yeah. All right. This one's from Josh. Joshy. Joshua. How many studio albums have been released by the Wiggles?

Oh, for fuck sake. Whoa. Who are the Wiggles? Come on. You're the dad. This is your thing, D.K. Famous Australian Children's music group. D.K., this was like your category, bro.

Is that right? Are you screwing with us? No, I don't know who the Wiggles are. I believe they're the most popular children's TV show band, like ever. Yeah, I think they probably are. They all wear different colors, like solid colors. So like the Telitubbies? If they were people.

Well, yeah. But the color scheme is very Teletubbies-esque. The Telethubbies freaks me out. Yeah, they're weird. They're like the thumb kids and spy kids. Dude, I was just about to say they feel like they should be in spy kids. That's crazy. They're freaky.

Emails at Ringer Fantasy Football at Gmail.com. if you know what the fuck is up with the telitam they do feel like they should be on like willie walker or spy kids or something dkay do you do you know that song um by the wiggles you know fruit salad yummy yummy yummy no i've never heard this i don't know what that is maybe show calvin maybe he'll like i feel like i'm doing pretty fine without it right this is right you have been singing more is it uh she's gonna be like fruit salad what is he talking about uh no i've never heard of the wiggles I feel like I've been blessed to not have that in my life or is it actually good?

I mean, look, I'm not the judge of children's music, but I think they're good at what they do. And I don't really listen, but I respect that they're doing it. All right, how many albums have been released by the Wiggles? Oh, come on. Okay, I got a number, I guess. All right.

Three, two, one. 61. 60, 30. What did you say, D.K.? Seven. They've been around a while. I don't know. They've been around a while

and I just feel like you crank out albums. Get the fuck out. The answer is 62. Let's go. Oh my God. Geez. Crank out it exactly right? No, I said 60.

It was 62. But I mean, I'm kind of on, I'm kind of dialed today, boys. D.K., you got bodied. This has been a rough day. It's been a rough life for trivia for me. I feel like I'm by far the worst set trivia. All right. I got to Marcus.

High Fitz gets Quentin Johnston, D.K. I think there are actually a lot of viable options left. Okay, so DeMarcus Robinson, Quentin Johnson are gone. The other guys that I would consider here are Jerry Judy slash Elijah Moore for the Browns. I don't really love the idea of taking any of these guys, but they've been somewhat, Jerry Judy has been somewhat consistent to start the year, which is kind of wild. 14 targets through two weeks. Yeah.

And Amari Cooper has not been good whatsoever. I was checking. I was looking at this and I was like double checking to make sure I had it. I had my search set correctly. He has seven, Mark Cooper has 17 targets, and he only has five catches for 27 yards. Like,

brutal, Brutal, Brutal St. Sean Watson has sucked. He's always under pressure. The Brown's offensive lines is a disaster because everyone's hurt. But Watson,

he looked, I mean, he looked better on week two. I don't know if he could have looked worse after week one. Right. He did look a little bit better. Alec Pierce for the Colts,

who is currently the wide receiver four. I feel like we have to actually mention that. This is fiduciary responsibility. Should we always be like, actually take the guy who's got the fourth most most most most best receiver in the NFL. Yeah, he's like him. He could be last year's Rashid Shaheed where every week it was like, man,

another 50-yard touchdown for Shaheed. Like this can't keep up. But so far, Alec Pierce, what, two touchdowns and two games? Yeah, maybe take that guy, DK. The guy with more points than the other guys. Sorry, he's the wide receiver five. Nico Collins. Nico Collins took left over him last night.

It doesn't even matter. Pierce has 181 yards and two touchdowns in two weeks. I don't know if the Giants have that. Well, Neighbors does. I don't know if the other giant. But anyways, that feels very fraudulent. The Alex Pierce thing. I got his name wrong last night, Alex Pierce.

Jalen Naylor for the Vikings, if Justin Jefferson misses any time. I don't think he said it's a bruise that happens at the time. Well, that's true. But also, Kenneth Walker went into a post-game press conference and said, I'm fine last Sunday. And then now he's maybe going to miss multiple weeks. So the lesson here is don't always trust what the play. players say because they're always like, you know, super amped up on adrenaline and feeling pretty good. And then, you know, as the week goes on, they start to really hurt more. So I would say,

man, I guess I'm just going to like play it safe here. Go Jerry Judy. Don't love it. I need to get better at trivia. Let's, uh, let's do this. The funny thing is, I feel like I'm good at actual real trivia, but these, these, these is what? Fake trivia? Yes, this is fake trivia because you're picking, you're asking impossible questions. Yes. I can deduce things pretty well. like in real trivia situations, but I have no fucking clue with these trivias. I guess I'll go with Jerry Judy, but I don't feel great about it.

We're going to contact the Wiggles and tell them you said that they're fake-ass trivia. Yeah, let them know. I feel like how many ships and planes were lost in the Bermuda Triangle is legitimate trivia. That feels like the definition of trivia. I have tried to start picking questions that are more like that than the...

You're saying like the how many stars are in the universe and you're like, all right. How many, yeah, how many protons are there in like the Statue of Liberty, I think that that's something where, you know what, I think we're not even guessing a number as much as we're guessing like how many commas are in the number.

That's, you know, it's tough. I always used to hate in like middle school when they would make you guess how many M&Ms are in the jar. I hated that. Oh, I would, oh, you just, I just bribed the people to tell me the number

and that I would guess and then I would win the M&Ms. You would bribe them? Why didn't you just buy M&Ms then? I don't know. The glory. You want the glory of getting it. I actually, that's worth it.

I get that. Forgot to mention here. feel we should mention is Josh Reynolds for the Broncos. Yeah. Pretty solid. I almost want to just change my answer. Would you play Josh Reynolds in a week? No, and I wouldn't want to play Jerry Judy either.

Play Alec Pierce. Why is no one playing this guy? Take Alec Pierce. Take Alec Pierce. He's going to catch a 40-yard touchdown. You know what? This is actually a great point. This is a great point.

Shout out to my friend Brian who was talking to me about this. And he has Ricky Pairsol in his team. And I was like, well, he got shot. I don't know he's going to play. I don't know what's going to happen with him. And he was like, yeah, but I was Marie Condoing my team. And I was like, I was going to cut him and I was like, Ricky Sparks Joy. I like him on my team.

Clue guy. And I was like, you know what? You're right, D.K. Like, you know what? Jerry Judy. And who was the other guy who you just talking about? Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds does not spark joy.

Alec Pierce, I think if you're watching Anthony Richardson and he connects with Alec Pierce on another 60-yard touchdown, I think that's more likely to spark joy. We're parsing receivers. All right. I think that matters. I'm going to go with the overall wide receiver five. Yeah. fantasy football. Fuck it.

Even though I feel very confident he's going to get like one target for no catches this week. But let's just do this. Let's let it rise. He uses his fucking hands. I'm like Jared Judy. He just catches his goddamn belly button. I've won both trivia as and I'm like damn, D.K.'s team is pretty good this dude. Yeah. I feel like that actually happens a lot, Craig. Like we almost galaxy brain like the picks.

And then you just end up taking the guy who's literally scored the fifth most points in fantasy so far in every see. It's fucking incredible. All right. Tight ends, again, just, oh my God, the injuries, the tight end are insane. So David Injoku's hurt. Jake Ferguson missed last week. Evan Ingram was a very late scratch, got hurt in pregame warmups,

Tase him Hill as a chest injuries, just a ton of issues of tight end. George Kittle left. I guess he was cramps. D.K., who's your number one tight end pick for this week. Hunter Henry for the Patriots, who was basically the entire Patriots passing offense in this last game. He had 12 targets, eight catches, 109 yards. He was one of my sleepers coming into the season. I remember just, you know, they don't have a lot of veteran experience.

guys in that passing game. Jacoby Brissette definitely leaned on him. They were drawing up plays for him in this game. And so I just, you know, he's going to be very volatile. This Patriots offense is volatile in general. But, you know, tight ends suck so far this year. Like there's like been almost no tight end touchdowns this season. It's crazy.

I think it's been, well, there's been almost no touchdowns. There were 110 passing touchdowns through two weeks, three years ago. And now there's like 66 entering one in their football. So that'll do it. Hunter Henry is my guy too. I is no question. Nate Junkie at Pro Football Focus. He does a great job.

I thought this was a typo. New England targeted their wide receivers in week two on just five of their 27 pass attempts. Oh, wow, yeah. Five of 27 attempts went to receivers. So, yeah, I think tight end, yeah, I think Hunter Henry's the guy. Craig, did you have him?

You have to pick him. It's still, it's bleak. He'll probably have three catches for 20 yards next week, but against the Jets on Thursday night. Yeah. You don't know. Tight end six on the week, yeah. All right.

That means it's time for the Hunter Henry. Showdown time. Fuck, that's so much better. It's actually such a satisfying sound, isn't it? Yeah. All right, this is from Otis. Otis. How many muscles are in an elephant's trunk?

Whoa. I feel like it's either a lot or one. Trying to tell me this is real trivia? This is not real trivia. Dude, I like that. DK, give me an example of real trivia. Oh, just off the top of my, I don't know. Was the battle that won the war or whatever?

I knew you were going to go. You just want You just want world because you like random ass number that no normal person could figure out. I'm not complaining

because look, I need to get better at this. All right? I'm just saying this shit is impossible. Maybe, yeah. Okay,

so how many muscles does an elephant have in its trunk? Yes. This is like, how many muscles does a human have in its face?

It's like a thousand. Like different little, like micro expressions. It takes 43 muscles to smile, right? Yeah. It takes more. to frown than to smile, isn't that the

axiom? Yeah. Okay. And elephants use their trunk as like another hand, essentially. Among other things. To drink. Bathe themselves. Fight maybe.

Craig, you saw one. You went to Africa. Saw many. I actually, to be honest, this is biased towards Craig. I don't know this answer, but I remember them telling me on a game drive. They mentioned how many muscles was in a trunk, but I can't remember. You guys want to go? Not really.

Oh. This is your 700 moment. I'm demoralized. All right. Three, two, one. 210. All right. I said 150.

What did you say? I said 2,000. I said 210. High fits went high, real high. 40,000. 40,000. The answer is 40,000 muscles are in an elephant's drug. That's a lot.

That's a lot of muscles. Wait, the answer is 40,000? 40,000 muscles are in an elephant's truck. That's a lot. Wow. I want a diagram of this thing. That is unbelievable. Dude, that's crazy.

Craig, what did you say again? 210. Son of a bitch. You even last again. All right. It's a brutal week to come and last. I get Hunter Henry. Craig. I can't wait.

One day I'm going to tell Hunter Henry that I added him in week two in waivers because there's 40,000 muscles involved in the front. What did you guess? $2,000? Yeah. You're 38,000 off and you won. Well, you know what? You know what?

It's all it takes to win. I've actually, it's really cute. Seeing baby elephants, they're like clumsier with their trunk and they like struggle to put the food in their mouth. They're like how most of it drops out, all the grass. It's pretty funny. Baby elephants are among the cutest things in the world. They also eat like all day because elephants aren't great at digestion.

So most of the food they eat actually doesn't get digested properly. So they are just shoveling grass into their mouth like all day every day. They eat like thousands of pounds of food. I never realized that that's a huge. part of cooking. Like, like, so much of what, like, monkeys is the same thing. Breaking it down. Yeah. Monkeys eat like 12 hours a day because like, if you ate raw potatoes, you wouldn't really get any nutritional value from it whatsoever. But like cooking, it's just, you spend less time eating because like all, when you eat it, it's actually nutritional.

Um, all right. So you're taking, anyway, so I'm going to go with it. Yeah. Yeah. Big gulps, huh? God. It, where are we? out with Evan Ingram. How's Evan Ingram doing? How's his hamstring? He's week to week. Can we get him on the phone? He's week to week. Week to week is always a bad thing for me. That sounds like a long time. Week to week to me, I think his coach speak for, he won't play, but the player doesn't think that yet. Yeah. We're going to let him have help. We're not going to tell him that. Like now. I think I'm between, I'm not taking Zacherts out of principle. I can't do that. I'm Between Brent, Brenton Strange on the Jaguars, a real person.

Made up name. Or Colby Parkinson on the Rams. Kobe Parkinson had one catch for 12 yards, but 66 routes run are the second most among tight ends this season. And there is nobody to catch past this. And he's a veteran who's running a lot of routes. But without Evan Ingram, Strange had a 25% target share this season, 2.3 yards per run.

Both those metrics better than anything that Ingram has done in his last two seasons on the Jags. I think I'm going to go with Brenton Strange. They're playing the bills. Nice. All right. Okay, so I'm going to go with Zach Ertz, even though it pains me to say so. Why are you guys so down on Zach Kurtz? He's old. He had 62 yards last week at tight end standards? Yeah, he's just, he's running, he's run 84% of his routes on the team's dropback.

So in other words, he's out there running routes when they're throwing the ball. That was the fourth most among tight ends this week. Four catches, 62 yards. 62 yards is 63 yards more than Christian Kirk had this week. Yeah, Ben Sinnet. Ben Sinat is the tight end that they drafted. He's like a non-factor so far. He's not even playing barely.

The only other guys I would choose here that I'm like debating choosing here are Colby Parkinson, like Craig mentioned with the Rams. Again, he's just running a lot of routes. Now they don't have anyone to catch passes. And so he could have a little bit bigger role going forward. And then Mike is sickie for the Bengals who's only playing like 50% of the snaps. But on the place he's playing, he's the first read on a lot of these. plays. They're drawing up plays for him. He actually leads to Bengals right now

after two games in first three target share according to fantasy points. So I think he's just going to be so volatile. It's really tough to play him, but if you're in dire straits at the tight end position, you know, he's at least a little bit of like an upside gamble because he's been a big part of their passing game, honestly, so far,

even though he's only playing like half the snaps. So I'm going to end to ultimately go with Ertz, but Gisickey was tempting. This is all just nasty. Yeah, it's week two, baby. Week two. We're right. We're right back to where we started. Quarterback. If you need a quarterback, and again, I know a bunch of guys are hurt.

I feel like number one. So, I mean, Justin Fields, if he's available, I think you definitely want to add him. He's pretty available, and he has been Yahoo. He's going to run more as the season goes on. I feel pretty confident about that. So I think Justin Fields, in terms of upside, having a backup quarterback, that's a guy you want just because, again, he's very hard to add a guy on waivers who can be top five. I guess we have to acknowledge that Derek Carr is playing very well.

I just ride the wave until, uh, till it ends. My favorite quarterback in the NFL. Derek Carr. I've never disparaged him. 243 yards at 11 completions is pretty fucking hard to do. They're averaging like 32 points a half. They're in the first half of games so far.

So that will continue. But no, they're playing the Eagles and the Falcons at the Chiefs next few weeks. So I mean, if you need, yeah, Derek Carr, it's hard to, yeah, I guess if the worst thing that happens is I recommend Derek Carr and then he sucks, then I guess they'd be happy. So it's kind of a win-win if you think about it. You'd be happy if you suck?

Hater. A little. If I had to pick one player that I, that would be my least favorite player. Not saying he's my least favorite player, but if I had to pick someone who wasn't If I had to pick a least favorite player, it hasn't done anything wrong. You could add Derek Carr and Alec Pearson get the wide receiver 5 and the QB5. Yeah, you should probably do that. It's probably a good idea.

Oh, man, I love small samples. Probably just add those guys. Also, Gino Smith, the Seahawks is playing great well. Shout out D.K. There you go. He is playing really well. defenses. Dude, Raiders.

Raiders defense kind of sucks, but you know what? To play in the Panthers this week, maybe that's not as sexy now with Annie Dalton, so maybe we can scratch them off. I kind of had that, you know,

now that Bryce Young's, I guess we can take the Raiders off this list now. Is there a new auto play? Is there a team now that is above the Panthers in terms of auto play the defense opposing them?

Is it Denver? I think it's the Giants. I think so the Denver, the Buckingiers are playing Denver. Oh my God. They haven't done anything much the Buckingiers defense this year, but dude,

Bo Nick's going to lift the shit out of him. Yeah. the Packers defense versus Will Levis. I don't even love the Packers defense, but dude, Will Levis, as long as he's still playing, I don't know, he's doing dumb shit. But the team that I would pick, if they're available, the Bears, if the Bears are available, dude,

they're playing the Colts and Anthony Richardson. The Bears' defense is legit. The Bears' defense is legit. Richardson is not the most secure at the ball. Then they play the Rams and the Mash unit that are the Rams right now and then Carolina. I think the Bears defense is a really good ad. Where do we follow with the teams going against the dolphins?

It's like so funny because A-chan, Tyreek, Waddle, but like the quarterback situation is still very... If they're available, yeah, you definitely... Seattle, they're playing Skyler Thompson and Miami, yes, I think that you want that. As much as I hate to say it, yeah, because I want the dolphins to feed all their skill players, but Skylar Thompson's starting, that's tough. I'd also say the bills defense. I think a lot of people cut the bills, and the bills, they have 10 days to prepare for

the Jacksonville Jaguars, and the Jaguars are a fucking mess on offense between the sacks and the turnovers and the just general lack of energy and Doug Peterson seeming extremely sad in all of his press conferences. I think, yeah, I think the bills are pretty solid. So, those are a bunch of teams. God, this was like a, this was a messy, messy waiver wire. It's ugly. It was a messy week too.

Yeah. Are we, are we going to have Kai picket some teams? We're going to make Kai eat some food next week. Are we making them? Guys, guys. Do you even have to bring him? He's picking my, I have Quentin Johnson. He's going to pick my team with the TCU.

Right, Kai? Go with your head, not your heart or your stomach. I mean, I got to tease it out a little bit, right? You want to hear the teams? What do we want to do here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make a show out of it. Exactly.

So, D.K.'s got Samajai P. Ryan, Alec Pierce, and Zach Ertz. I hate that team so much. It's going to win. Hyphitz is Ty Chandler, Quentin Johnson, GoFrogs, and Hunter Henry. That's good. I'm going with Hyphids. I'm going with Hyphids. It's just blind.

I don't remember what Craig had. Craig has Bucky Irving, DeMarcus Robinson, and Brenton, Strange. and then in keeping, you know, up with the trivia, Craig has two dubs today and Hyphitz has one. Where did I land? You didn't have any wins this week, unfortunately. Dead last? Yeah, dead last week.

So what's the total? Is it total 3-2-1 right now? Oh, I don't know what it was last year, or last week. I believe it was 1-1-1. That's your job, Kyle. You got to keep up with that. I wasn't on the record last week, right? Yeah, listen.

Well, if only someone had kept track of what we talked about in recording. Fair enough, fair enough. I'm going to go with Hyphitz. I'm going to go with the frogs and Quentin Johnson. So we'll see. That's definitely going to burn me. So can't wait. Would you tell me horn frogs bleed from their eyes?

Yeah. Fun fact, it's like a defense mechanism. That's why like on some of our jerseys there's like a red accent. It's the red blood in their eyes. I can't wait to bleed from my eyes after watching Quentin Johnson. Hey, man. So let's say Hyvitz's team does not win. Maybe we should do it where the winning team, whether it's me or D.K.,

we get to decide the food that Kai eats. Is that how we've done in the past? Yeah, I think that's something like that. Yeah, okay. If Bucky Irving cooks you, motherfuckers, I'm, Ty's going to eat. I don't know what. Red grapes.

I hate red grapes. He hates red grapes. You already know, well, if he already knows he hates them, we're not going to make him eat him. We need him to try things he's never had before, right? We're not, then that's just torture if we're making him eat something we know he hates. No, no, I haven't had red grapes in a while.

That's pretty inoffensive. I'm down if that's what you choose. Okay. That's the thing. We're not bullying. We're kind of more. like if you didn't like them when you were six, maybe try them again now that it's been 20 years. Yeah, I just don't want him to have to eat things that he's like, I actively hate this and

it repulses me. I think the number's 10 years. I think if you haven't had something in 10 years is worth it. I probably haven't had red grapes in 10 years. I think that's worth it because your taste buts quite literally change. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm currently in the process of starting to like blue cheese. I'm the opposite, Craig. I got the ick with blue cheese and I'm like, I don't think I can eat this anymore. I've basically been practicing immersion therapy on foods I don't like. I've just been kind of forcing myself to eat them and my palate is honestly adapting. I used to not like blue cheese.

There's a restaurant in L.A. called Father's Office and they make a phenomenal burger. Great burger. But you cannot make any alterations. You cannot add or take away anything from the burger. I actually had an argument, like a polite argument with the waiter one time. The first time I went there and he was like, what do you want? I ordered the burger.

And I was like, can I get no blue cheese? and he's like, sorry, no changes. And I was like, I know, but I'm not asking to add anything else. Just remove the blue cheese. I'm saving you blue cheese. I'm saving the restaurant money. And he was like, no. Like, you have to have blue cheese.

So I was like, fine. So now I order it all the time whenever I go. And I'm like starting to like it more and more. So that's kind of my plan. I used to hate almonds when I was a kid. Now I love almonds because I just started eating a lot of almonds. I would never go to that restaurant. Well, I might have to tweet the picture of Kai,

the lunch we got Seattle, where it was like, it was like this elaborate sticks. sandwich and it was just like the ticket was just no cheese, no onions, no arugula, no mayo, and it was just like- No tomatoes. All the ingredients listed out. It was like a CVS receipt of everything. It's like the Meg Ryan scene in Wen Harry Metzalley. That is kind of at every restaurant.

It's just like a peek into my daily life. Like that's just every single time I order food anywhere. It's just like that. So yeah, excited to bring this back though. Can't wait to try to kiwi last year, mac and cheese. Kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. You're in for a wild ride. you want to do a couple of emails now emails all right we got an email got some emails in the bremeter triangle we have an email from leila Layla Layla incredible email all right Layla writes turns out until the last five years

scientists did not know where or how eels reproduce yeah I've heard about this we've I think we've talked about this on the we have so yeah eels I it was a good explanation so and she linked to like actual studies and stuff Eels that have lived in rivers across Europe and North America for centuries had never been observed spawning, and nobody had ever seen a juvenile eel throughout history. People have had all sorts of theories about where eels came from. Some people thought they were formed of mud and rainwater and some people thought they emerged from seafoom, or they were later metamorphosis stage of beetles. Nobody fucking knew. And people had seen adult eels leave river systems go out into the ocean, but they hadn't been able to track where they were going and they couldn't observe younger eels re-entering the river systems a whole thing. Whoa. So scientists have slowly over past decades

been able to slowly trace migrating adult eels farther and farther and farther and farther out along their migration routes across the ocean. And horrifyingly in 2022, they discovered all the eels in the Atlantic Ocean converge in one place. And it's in the Bermuda fucking triangle. Oh, wow.

All the eels. It's called the Sargasso Sea, the Sargasso Sea. I'm not the pronunciation guy. But it's in and around the Bermuda triangle, which is where all the shipwrecks in the down plains are and it's the birthplace and graveyard of basically all the eels in the Atlantic Ocean. Coincidence? I think not.

So it's like the Olympic village for eels essentially. Exactly. Bingo. Why? Why do they go there? That is fascinating. Dude, imagine stumbling upon that place. That would be terrifying. Just a giant eel orgy. And they spawn? Is that how they reproduce them? Yeah. Giant eel orgy for the entire ocean.

Imagine, you know, anchoring the boat, hopping off for a quick swim. You realize that you're just surrounded by eel eggs and spur. And other things. I think whales do this kind of stuff, too. There's like convergent spots in the ocean that like all the whales just go to and hang out. Yeah, and the crabs on that island that all the nature shows now show, the Christmas crabs. Oh, yeah, when they all climb up on shore. Yeah, I feel like I watched those nature shows as a kid.

I didn't realize it was like they're all just orgies. The penguins do the orgy. Like everyone's, you know, it's just kind of nuts. Sex makes the world go around, Hyfitz. And that's the new USC quarterback. No, not the USC quarterback. Who's the orgy kid playing? Well, Michigan.

Michigan's new quarterback's orgy. Oh, yeah. His name is Orgy? Yeah. His name is Orgy. Well, not the last thing. Alex Orgy. Yeah, yeah.

Would you rather be Alex Orgy or Michael Pennix? Do I have all the seasonending injuries if I'm Michael Pennings? No, no. You're you. But you're hosting this podcast and you're Alex Orgy or Michael Penix. Alex Orgy really rolls off the tongue. It does.

Orgy, by the way. And just like, you're on a like a roster and just A-Orgy? All right. We should probably get out of here now. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carl Sikai, for producing this episode. Thank you everyone for emailings at Rear Fantasy Football.g.com.

Emails, trivia questions. Emails. Thoughts on eels or, I don't know if we want orgy stuff for power. Animal orgies, yeah. Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, animal orgy facts. And then, yeah, emails for the Sunday categories and the Sunday episodes.

We'll read a couple during the show Friday. And then, yeah, our rankings for week three, oh my God, starting week three. Go up Thursday morning so you can have our starts-it rankings for week three. Thank you, Lord. Lauren. Thank you, Suki Waterhouse. Oh, yeah, Robert Pattinson.

Wife now? Oh, yeah? I don't know who that is. Suki Waterhouse? She's a musician, but she's been with Pattinson. for a while. I'm surprised you don't know her. I guess I think I've seen her. Suki Water. Four million follows an Instagram. Are you a fan of hers?

D.K., do you listen to her music? I've heard that one song, that's famous one, but I can't say I'm like a big fan. I'm not against her music. I've just never listened to it. I just ran across her name. I think she was the opening act for Swift on one of her shows in Europe. Great name, though. Got to say. Suki Waterhouse is like all time.

Is it Suki or Suki? You asking me? Yeah, it's good. Good call. Good point. I'm seeing Suki. I tried to to like, you know how YouTube will like play pronunciations of words, but I just kept getting ads. So I was like, all right, fuck this. Why didn't she pull up a video of her being interviewed? Yeah, like on the Tonight Show or something. Okay.

I think it's Suki. Well, this is a, this is a YouTube called Celebrities Saying Their Own Names. Oh, that's honestly a fucking great idea. I know, and I'm going to find out what it is here. Hold on. Suki Walter House? She's British. So anyways, it's not Suki like in True Blood. It's Suki. Suki Walter House.

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