The Ringer NFL Show - Championship Chaos, Ref Debacles, and the NFL's Stupidity

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

We recap the NFL’s championship Sunday, beginning with the Bengals-Chiefs game, and debate if these two teams are now truly rivals. Also, we discuss the late flag on Joseph Ossai that put the Chiefs in position to hit the game-winning field goal and what went wrong for Joe Burrow. 49ers’ Brock Purdy injured his elbow, and then backup Josh Johnson suffered a concussion as the Eagles won the battle in the trenches and blew out the 49ers. Has the championship window closed for the 49ers? Despite Purdy’s injury, we explain why he is this weekend’s biggest winner while the Empire State Building is the biggest loser. Email us! [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Follow the show now on Spotify. And do us a favor. Give us five stars. And do us another favor and stay major. This will be fun. Let's just go. There's so much going on, I feel like everyone's mad. Check.

Check. Check, Jim. Checking the mic, Jim. I don't know. I don't know if I'm panned right, Jim. Mike's settings are important, Jim. This is a biggie. That could be the cold open.

Football show, my name is Danny Hypertz. I am joined by Danny Kelly Craig Whirlback. The Eagles and the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl. Burrow head my ass, baby. Do you hear Kelsey later tell the mayor of Cincinnati is a jabroney? He quoted the Rock. He's like, shut your mouth. Know your role.

Shut your mouth. Did you hear about Holmes take the shot of Burrow? He was like, we don't have any cigars. but I'll go to the Super Bowl. Oh. This is officially a rivalry, right? It's not a rivalry unless both teams have won. And Mahomes had never beaten Burrow.

So now this is officially a rivalry. And it was testy. Revenge. So all the quarterbacks like each other, like Josh Allen and all the 2018 guys that really got to know each other. And like, I always just assume Mahomes and Burrough cruel, they probably are. But that seems salty when Mahomes is actually called out Burrow. You don't see that anymore.

That was great. I don't know who's saltier. The players in the game or the players in the game or the people on fucking Twitter, man. Oh my God. People are losing their minds about like the calls in this game. The refereeing was pretty bad.

All right, we've got to get that. Yeah. Can I get one Craig, Tony Roman impression before we get to the refs? Jim, I don't know, Jim. I thought I saw P.Rine there, Jim. I thought P. Ryan was in the vicinity. Oh, my God.

Okay. I hate when we have to do this, but we have to start with the refs. I almost feel like we have to, like the refs spanning both games. There's so many crazy stuff. It sucks, but I'm getting text from people being like, so like, are games fixed?

Does the league decide outcomes? Is this like WW? I have multiple people asking me this, and I'm like, everyone's bad. DK., you hate referees. How did you feel? Honestly, I feel sad because I'm like, this is what we're going to talk about for this game instead of having to, like, instead of getting to actually talk about some of the cool plays that happened in this game because there were a lot of really cool plays.

We're just going to, it's just going to be just a giant orgy of talking about the refs this week. I can already tell. It's so annoying. Like obviously the Joseph Sai push out of bounds thing that kind of set up the game winning field goal. Like that was pretty clearly a foul, but like throughout the rest of the game

there was just a lot of stuff they were missing and there was even apparently a misholding call on that run. Like, it just sucks that it's like, this is going to be what we talk on. I don't think you can litigate missed holdings, I think. I know. Just have to let's almost go backward in time Because starting with the end of the game

The last play, the unnecessary roughness On one hand, dude, I get it. Like this guy's running full speed to save the Bengal season Invertly ends the season. And it's like, man, he like lightly shoves him. He's running like freaking 20 miles an hour to get. On the other hand, I hate, this is the exception of the rule of like, I always hate when slow mode determines something

that should be going full speed. but when he's got like his entire forearm on Mahomes' back and all four of their feet are out of bounds, it's like that's unnecessary roughness. Like, you know what I mean? Is anyone arguing that shouldn't have been the call because I felt like that was pretty clearly? The push at the end you're talking about?

Yeah. I think a lot of people are upset about it, but I personally feel like they've been calling that all year. I know it's the last play of the game, but I don't know. He pushes him like, Mahomes definitely like lays out, but he pushed him hard and he was like a yard out of bounds.

I don't know. I actually immediately, take back what I said about let's go backward because that's not how people think. The entire day, the seven hours of football, the refereeing was pretty atrocious throughout both games. And I think what happens is that when the referee incompetence hits a certain peak, you kind of just start doubting their judgment in general. And so even a play like what ended this game people are salty about like Baham's throwing that pass in the dirt. They're like, oh, was that, you know, intentional grounding because Burrow just got called for blah, blah, blah.

Here's the reality. The Niners Eagles game had bad refs. I mean, we're talking about a game. I mean, We're talking about a game where, like, there's a shadow conspiracy. So, like, did a punt hit Skycam slash? Like, we can't review it. They fucking broke the chains. We're unable to determine if it hit the wire. They broke the chains again at the link. It's called the link, which is funny.

They had seven days to fix the chains. First of all, how much is the chain, the Home Depot? And they had seven days for, like, one of the three most important games in the air. How are they breaking these chains? It's crazy. Two weeks in a row, they got lucky to broke chains and then the both games are plus. So then, but the, the, the, the, three. think the piece of resistance,

I don't know how to pronounce that, the French thing, but like, the, thank you. I don't think it goes that close, but that's fine. I don't want to be dramatic, but if it had decided a game, that third and nine into the punt, into actually, the chiefs get to just do the third and nine again.

That's the war over. It's not the push. It was the do-over. That sent everyone into a frenzy, and here's the thing. It kind of like, not that it didn't matter, it set the tone.

It didn't totally matter. because the chiefs punted anyway, and it was like, ball don't lie in a weird way. But, like, having said that, if that did decide the game, that's one of the five worst refereeing things I've seen in any sport in my lifetime. Like, if that ended up deciding a game. And like, Bengals fans. They didn't score. Yeah.

But how mad are Bengals fans still? It's like, that was crazy. So, like, what happened? Like, the ref runs on and it's like, we got to stop the play. And then they'd stab the ball. And he's like, uh, uh, actually, you guys can do the play. And then they changed their mind. There was more than one play where they went through the whole play

and then they realized that we realized later that the play was dead. There was a false start on a play that they called and they let them run the whole play. It's like you apparently you couldn't hear anything in there. Like you couldn't hear the whistle at all. So I don't know. Field Gates posted that tweet of showing all the refs. And it didn't look like any refs or blowing the whistle.

There was a ref that was like way up in the top side. top side, like 20 yards down the field, he was running in. You can see it on like the All-22 or whatever. Someone showed it. He was like running in, trying to stop the play. To me,

no one heard it. The broadcast did show it. If no one hears it and it doesn't interrupt any of the players, I don't know how you can go back. No, it's, I'm torn on this because I have to say, I think that what,

honestly what happened, I think, like the actual real answer to me is that the TV broadcast completely missed it. And so they showed it. And like the, worst possible way to make the refs look as dumb as possible. Because when they zoomed out, like after the commercial break, when the TV people were like,

what's going on, they showed what DK's talking about that zoomed out version. And a ref is, he is in fact, it was the furthest ref away possible. And he's running in like, guys, guys, we missed the clock. No one hears him. The other refs hear him. So it looks totally normal. Everyone misses it. And so the refs look really dumb.

However, I'm kind of like, well, once a ref is blowing his whistle running on, I don't know if one player hears a ref try to stop a play you kind of can't let him go it's fucked up and like i think it was it's an accident it's weird like when the saints you know the saints mess up with the the pass interference that wasn't called five years ago and the rams go to the super bowl and the saints can get it yeah that's like a mistake that was a missed call this was like a procedural error that just gate you know what i mean there's no fix it was just like this it was a whole cavil everyone was messing up today like the players the refs everyone just made a litany of mistakes. I don't know. No one was on their

A game today except for like more against from this. I don't know. Obviously like it was exciting and everything and the finish was fine. I thought both of the games kind of sucked if I'm being totally honest. Like I just didn't, I don't think they were very fun. It was just constant penalties. Well, the first game was completely depressing.

At least this game, the second half of this game was pretty compelling because it was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like an ugly off. Nobody was like slinging it. It was like third and longs. And if you, if you completed one, it felt like that just won the game. But to be honest, the refereeing was terrible, but it seems like every playoffs now, there's always something. There's always one controversial play. To me, it's like the fundamental problem with all of this.

It's not the refs. It's not the players. It's the fucking game of football. Football is exhausting and it's dumb and none of it makes sense. And everything comes down to these weird subjective plays that we try and turn into explicit rules that nobody can ever define and they have to rewrite every five years because nobody gets anything. The catching rules. Jesus Christ. It's just too complicated of a game, honestly.

I also think that this game, I think that what was cool about the Chief Bengals at the end was, I agree, D.K., they were kind of boring overall. It was a little underwhelming. But I think that this game actually is true to the rivalry sense of Mahomes and Burrow in that we lionize rivalries, but a lot of rivalry games are ugly.

Or weird, and they come down to the end. Like, you know, the LeBron versus the Warriors is always lionized. But, like, Bill always points out, you know, game seven, when LeBron won with the Cavs was the Warriors, That game sucked to like, it was sloppy. Like, you know what I mean? And then the final two minutes were like epic. But like the game was kind of awful.

And then like this game like it was sloppy like Mahomes. On one hand he looked. On the other hand, like he looked, he was hurt and like it ended on this weird 15 yard penalty. And it just the whole thing's a little odd. But nobody seemed to get into a rhythm in any of the games. No, no. It was just like really fractured plays here and there to like, you know, like do the coming of the game. Credit though, the Chief's defense

played great. Yeah, Chris Jones. Chris Jones was incredible. He legitimately was like triple teamed on a couple plays at the end. The Chiefs rookies, if you told me the Chiefs were going to lose legious need for injury immediately in a three-record cornerbacks the whole game. I mean, they just played great. I mean, they gave up that deep touchdown

to Jamar Chase at 4th and 6. But that was bracketed, but, you know, Burr gave a touchdown. Well, they all... It turned a deep shot, yeah. Yeah. I think the right team won, to be honest. I wanted Cincinnati. I wanted Burr. I wanted Burrow in the Super Bowl. I was rooting for them.

I wanted them to go all the way. But I think the Chiefs played a better game, to be honest. I think they were the better team. The Bengals had nine penalties, however many you think were bad calls. They took a bunch of sacks. They took five sacks, Burrow through two picks. And Mahomes, on one fucking leg, he had his weird fumble. But, like, throwing the ball, Mahomes was, like, pretty damn impressive for having two receivers out.

You know, I think the Chiefs actually played the better game. Well, Roger Goodell agrees. that's why he had them win. That's right. Roger Goodell could not have Josh Johnson, by the way, in the Super Bowl. The second, he got hurt. He was like, we're not doing this. Hit the button.

Shut it down. Shut it down. The actual NFL didn't use to rig games, then they watched the Buffalo Wild Wings commercials, and we're like, we should have one of those buttons. Why didn't we think of that? Oh, my God, I forgot about those commercials. Speaking of commercials,

did you guys see in the Niners game, the Appleby's commercial that was split-screened, while one of the linemen's shoulder got like popped out. out of his socket. And he was on the ground, writhing in pain as they were playing the replay. Meanwhile, the split screen, the audio you hear is like,

stop me up. Yeah, we'll stop. And it's like some Apple box two for one apps thing. It's the most American 30 seconds I've ever seen. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Stop me up. And he's like on the ground, writhing and pain.

I always wonder if they show your commercial with some of hers. Like, they've got to give them a refund, right? No, that was probably great. I'll never forget it. That's the next step with the Wopper commercial. It's going to be like, this injury is sponsored by Burger King. That happened. What was the team?

Someone sent out their injury reports sponsored by, like they used to send out like their tweets. God, everything is sponsored. Yeah. Did you break your leg? Break a piece of that kickcat bar. Just shameless. Email some ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have a good spawncon.

segment's rest. Oh, Mahomes is down. Looks like he hurt his foot. My homest his foot injuries brought to you by Subway, $5 foot long. This actually does happen 100%. Can we talk about how Cadarious Tony got hurt again? That guy's trying to tear his ACLs. I'm now convinced.

No one plants harder than that guy. The Tony dropped touchdown into the injury and to the team believed in him and through the challenge and wasted the challenge was like the trifecta. Yeah. Just the perfect. I could see Hype. It's just a shit-eating grinned. on his face throughout the whole process.

I'm not happy he got hurt, but it did, I just, I will say. You're happy he didn't catch that touchdown, though. I think I, I have been watching for football, yes, I was. I've been watching football a really long time. How many times, I mean this in your entire life, have you watched a football game at any level, where the team challenged a catch that the receiver kind of acted like he didn't catch the ball? Yeah. Because Cadarist Tony didn't act like he caught the ball at all.

And the Chiefs wasted the time out. It didn't end up mattering. It almost did at the end. But weirdly, Berquezval, this scantling was incredible in this game for the Chiefs. Like, he kind of saved them. My mom texted me. The MVS game. Yeah, he was like, MVS, real gritty.

One of my fantasy team. I was like, hey, mom, D.K. fucking hates this guy. Hate is not the right word. I just doubt him. Long memory. If we were still doing that award where it's like the statelines I refuse to acknowledge, it's MVS's game today.

I'm just not going to factor that into anything in his career. Well, here's the deal. Everybody else on the team was hurt. Hardman got hurt. Tody got hurt. Juju got hurt. Jared McKinnon retired before the game. That's crazy. What happened to him?

He was like the best player in 50s. No. In the month of December, he's disappeared. I love that when like everyone gets hurt, Kelsey's playing, but has this back injury. And then MVS steps up and has, what did he have? He had six catches for 160 yards. Yeah. And Dick is like, well, that's the only reason he got the ball.

I'm like, that's called stepping up for your team at the most important. part of your season. I mean, he looked good today. He looked good today. I'm not falling for it, though. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, sure, fall for it. I think these teams could run the ball either in this game.

I feel like these teams had more running rushing yards in the final, like 10 minutes than the previous game. I don't know. It felt like the most successful runs. Joe Mixed an 8 for 19. Yikes. I mean, Burrow was the one making stuff happen with his legs. He was awesome today on the ground. I just, doesn't it feel like in general that the biggest, the biggest,

Bengals just didn't use their best players. Like, I don't know. They don't throw to Jamar Chase enough, in my opinion. I know I'm sure he's getting doubled and they- spam the shat-at-hap-at-past-a-hast-a-old but, like, throw to him more. Overall, I actually think overall, we all, like, most people, including me, really underrated.

We kind of, like, saw the Bengals play last week, basically let Joe Burrow come under zero pressure from the bills. And we're like, yeah, that's normal. The three, four offensive linemen out for the Bengals. Yeah, great. They played great. be fine and just totally underrated how the snow completely helped mitigate

the Bill's pass rush. And then they come out and the Chiefs just sack Burrow four times in the first two drives. They sack them to end their final drive and the Chief's pass rush changed everything. They're like, oh yeah, right. The three backed up offensive linemen and the Bengals weren't just magically great and I think that changed everything. Like

the Bills game last week, one of the reasons the Bengals looked so good. They were breaking off these first and 10 runs at a shotgun for Mixing. Like nothing last week. They didn't have one. I mean in this whole game What did Bixen have? Oh my God. Yeah, eight carries for 19 yards from Joe Mixon.

Joe Mixon had like, what, 11 for like, or like 16 for like 120 something crazy last week? Like that to me is like quietly the biggest difference. It's like I don't think they had one 10-yard run for mixing the whole game. No, I don't think they did either. He had 20 for 105 last week, but he had like seven first downs. It's like they couldn't run the ball. Burrow was getting hounded. I just don't know why you don't manufacture more plays to get the ball and chase his hands a little bit easier.

Like, turn him in a defense. I think it's the chief's defensive line, I think, was so much better. And honestly, the whole chief's defense is better. And they look discombobulated. But I will say, though, and if you're Bengals fan listening, I get, that's all right. They'll, they have it all a half season to be mad. But holy shit. You do have to, you must be pissed at the refs, though.

Like, I, it's just a shitty way to lose. It's a really shitty way to lose. I think it's the right call, but it's a terrible way to lose. I feel really bad for Joseph the Sy, who had a phenomenal game. That was awful. Yeah. He hurt his knee. I mean, he might have, like, really injured his knee. What's that, what was that show? The world, it was before our time, Craig, but it was the wide world of sports.

And, like, the intro was like, you know, the ecstasy of victory, the agony of defeat. That was, like, the embodiment to me of, like, the agony of defeat was him just sitting on the bench and his team, that one teammate was, like, trying to console him. And, like, he wouldn't move. That was really sad. I mean, I feel like the truth of sports is you play, you play so you never, like, you want to win the Super Bowl. just so you don't have to experience what it feels like to lose the Super Bowl, because the feeling of losing is so much worse than the feeling of winning, in my opinion. You know what I mean? I've never seen somebody celebrate and look so happy as I do see Joseph Asai look so sad.

Like that type of emotion is so much more powerful to me than any victory dance or cheer. It's miserable to see. I feel so bad for him. And it's crazy how much like a team success or failure is viewed in hindsight, and we organize life into these nice, tidy narratives of like, here's why teams are successful and here's why teams are failures, blah, blah, blah. When it's like, dude, sometimes it just comes down

to like Joseph's side, just kind of like overran it by like a step. And now like everything in the Bengals, you know what I mean? Now it's like, oh, well, the chiefs made it, Patrick Groom was greedy. And it's like, damn, there are so many players who like look back

at their season, like, oh, what did I fail? blah, blah. And it's like, dude, sometimes it just comes down to a step or two. It's out of your control. And it's like, your victories, your failures are like kind of out of your control. And it's like, oh my God.

I think that's the thing that exactly what you're saying is it's one step and you're running at 100 miles an hour. It's like, it happens in the blink of an eye. And it's so, like, for instance, this is probably going to be like legitimately life changing for him just because he's going to be known as the guy. You know, this is like the D Ford off sides back a couple years ago for the Chiefs where like you're, you're just going to be remembered for that play. You know what I mean?

And it sucks because it just happened in the split second in the blink of an eye. And you can't ever take it back. It's just so profoundly, like, sad. It's very, like, that's the hard part about watching sports. Sometimes I feel like when they have those types of plays. And the flip side, dude, because at first actually I thought, it was Joseph Osai. I thought the person who did the penalty at first was Jermaine Pratt. And Pratt was the guy who made Tyler Huntley a fumble.

But, like, that's another person where it's like, dude, Tyler Huntley, prop. Oh, yeah, the goal line thing. Yeah. He's going to remember for fumbling ball at the goal line. And it's like, you know what I mean? It's just tough. It's also tough because. like guys like Joseph Asai, you know, a quarterback making a tragic mistake, you know, a quarterback is

super famous. Every single game, they have a million highlights that you can remember. Guys like Joseph Asai are not ever going to be household names. So usually those are, it's like, you know, defensive players or random linemen are the ones who screw up randomly and have these horrible plays attributed to them and then follow them for the rest of their career because that's the only Joseph Asai play anyone will probably ever remember. Yeah. And that's, it's what you sign up for though, if you want the glory, right? Like you sign up and you're just in your, trying to like, you know, defensive play, you can work your whole ass off your whole career just to be listed on the list of defensive MVP prop bets for the Super Bowl MVP. And then it's like,

but that's what you, you know, you're signing up also for infamy, but it's like, it sucks, like your whole life. Did you guys think it was grounding on Burrow? Yes, I actually said it before. I did, we need the pronounce, whatever the word is. I said it as soon as he threw the ball. And I was very happy when Romo said it, because it was. Like, I'm, like, my homes was aiming for Kelsey on the next drive and then got hit while aiming for Kelsey. Burrow was aiming at the ground. He was checking it to the ground as hard as he fit because he saw guys coming.

In the spirit of the rule, it was definitely grounding. You know what I mean? The refs had not messed up a refereeing call about the Bengals in like a historic fashion. Like 10 minutes earlier, we wouldn't be wondering.

It just happened to be a correct call on a team that had just been wronged. But anyway. It looked like Brady out there. Just chucking it in the ground. Pissed up at his line. Everybody got fucking hurt this game. Everybody's keeping in this entire game today.

This is my big take from these two games today, and then we can talk to these Eagles. The Eagles are winning the Super Bowl, and I feel this way because at the end of the day, I think my takeaway from today, like at 10,000 feet, is the Eagles came into this game, all 22 starters on this field. They literally had 22 of 22 starters playing this game.

How do you count like that from like the beginning of the year? Of the guys that they want. Yeah, they're preferred starters. Like the team, the players that the team wants to start are all starting. They're all healthy. That's crazy. Like, I think the chase a few years ago had 21 of 22 and it was like the most in years. And it's like, but generally speaking, the teams that make the Super Bowl are the fucking

healthiest teams. Yeah, the Brady Bucks were super healthy when they won. The Bengals last year were like the healthiest team in football other than the Rams, who were the other healthiest team of football. These are the teams that make it. If anything, the chiefs are the outlier, because the chiefs are banged up. Like, sure, you can think off the top of your head the last thing the Eagles made the Super Bowl. They were banged up because they had Wentz, but like otherwise they had all their guys.

And that's, I look at this and it's like the Eagles, the Chiefs, dude, so Mahomes is gimpy with his ankle. Coachko was running around. Pacheco, you know, he was banged up, right? Well, he got evaluated for a concussion, but he came back in. So I think he'll be, he'll be okay. So Ligeria Sneed, who's their best quarterback, he had an injury. The, what, they had juju. Jujuv Miko.

Miko got hurt. Tony obviously always gets hurt. Like, this is a banged up team. Here's a couple guys that were playing, like, late in the championship game for the UFC. Like, Marcus Kemp, Jody Fortson? Like, who are these people? I mean, I-Jord.

He outscored Russell Wilson and Kyle Pitts. So you know he's good. So what is the lot? Do we want to do a quick bill, Sal, Rippoff? I guess the line before I Google this. Yeah. Let me think.

Let me think. Let me think. I think it's going to be Eagles minus, oh, sorry. I mean, I've already seen it. Should we text each other? I'll be out. I was going to say Eagles minus one and a half. I just literally what I was going to say.

Shit. You want to go, I was literally going to say Eagles. It's so funny. And I'm going to take the Chiefs. The line is, where's the line? The line opened at Casey minus one. Oh, it did. Quickly moved to a Pickham, then went to Philly minus one.

Now it's back to Pickham. This is the email I got for that online. A Kickham Super Bowl would be. pretty awesome. Oh my God. I think it's moved a lot, like, in the hours since the game. I'm fine with the pick-em. So basically, if I said, Craig said, it said Eagles one, we both would be right.

So let's talk Eagles Niners. God. This was one of the weirder games, I feel like, I mean, I guess we should just start right away with the quarter. I mean, I mentioned at the time, I mean, all the weird shit that happened. Like, oh, sorry, Jesse. Jesse. Sorry, Jesse. Come on in here,

Jess. Jesse. Come on in here, Jess. producer Jesse. It's easier this way though, right, Jesse? Like, you'd rather this than, like, they just got blown out with their quarterback healthy. Yeah. Jesse, would you rather have lost on a last second field goal or lost this completely non-competitive goal now?

You would have won the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, I'm still, like, I went into this game not really knowing. I think I would have taken the last second field goal because I would have at least gone to see and been like, all right, something. Like, the whole game, I was just like, all right, let's see, what can happen?

All right, Brock Purdy's out. Josh Johnson, let's see, and then he couldn't do nothing. And then he got a cushion, and then they brought back Purdy. And I was like, what the hell is going on just to basically hand the ball off? And then they did all the, the, the game was over relatively, like, in the middle of the third quarter. And it was just, yeah. It was just kind of, they were just rolling along and not really doing much. The beginning was kind of like a sports movie where it's like, oh, man, everything's going wrong.

But, hey, it's still a game. Seven-nothing, seven, seven, it's tied. And the second, it's like, maybe there's a company. back and then at the end it was like actually this is like a Game of Thrones. It's like there's no hope and all the good people are just going to get absolutely rocked. When Josh Johnson kind of marched down and they scored that touchdown, I was like, I wonder if Shanahan secretly kind of loves this. He's like, this is going to be the greatest trick I have ever pulled to bring Josh Johnson to the Super Bowl and beat the Eagles.

They're like, he's just in a BDS. Yeah, this is like pleasurable to him. It's got like a big. That's great. Playing a lot, actually. Yeah, dude. Yeah, it would. So just to go to the obvious,

so Brock Purdy, his third, like the fifth or sixth play of the game, or at least the Eagles got the ball first, but the fifth or six play of the game. Well, I'm sorry, first. The Eagles first drive,

they go down, and fourth and three, they go for it, Devante Smith, catches this ball, and then it turns out that, you know, it wasn't a catch,

but they had already scored a touchdown until they showed the freaking replay. It was the whole thing. So then the Niners get the ball. Brock Purdy gets it by Hassan Reddick, who's being blocked by a freaking tight end, and then he's just out. And his elbow, and also every time you think the quarterback's always, like, fighting to get back in.

Like, Bahamas when he sprains his ankle against the Jaguars, he's like screaming people. And Brock Party actually goes up to Shannon and it's like, I can't throw the ball. And they put Josh Johnson. Like, the whole thing, I'm like, I'm good on him if he can't do it. Like, there's a selflessness to that. But you also just don't see it a lot. I thought that Olson, Greg Olson did a really good job in the moment of explaining exactly what was going on because he was basically saying it's not like a pain thing. You just like can't grip the football.

And that it'll come back, but just. not that quickly. Right. You know what's messed up, Jesse? This is also what happened to you last season. Like Jimmy Garoppolo had a thumb injury and couldn't throw a football, at his shoulder injury. Trey Lance had a finger injury and had to relearned how to throw football.

And that's what your season ended last year. And then Jimmy G. down, Trey Lance down, Brock Purdy down, Josh. And then Josh Yon gets concussed and he's out in there back to Brock Purdy. And McCaffrey gets a radio helmet. How weird is it for you to just like basically three years in a row, your Jimmy G or like multiple quarterbacks got hurt? I am convinced that the 49ers are cursed because it's constantly the quarterback and it's what it constantly gets in the way. Like you, it baffles me because it's, they just can't catch a break for injury at that position.

They're literally on their four-string quarterback. Yeah. Like, you know, of course you don't want any injuries, but it's like, come on. You hit another position, even now. It's not hitting the quarterback every day. time because it's like, yeah, at some point you're just out of options and it's like when you're down to the

not even the backup's backup. It's like what more can you really do except for just, you know, hope, hope something happens and in the end up, and they just, they couldn't and the Eagles knew that Bert Purtt he wasn't going to throw. So it's like they go over from there and the Niners

were just trying to do something, make something out of nothing and it just never happened. Who is the Niners' fifth string quarterback? There is not one. Well, it was going to be McAfrey. Yeah, they didn't suit up three quarterbacks, but some people thought was questionable considering. On that note, well, that's, that's part of the thing of like, there's 43 man roster and there's like 46 players active in game day. And part of it's like, well, they don't want them more active because you can stash injured players something.

I don't totally understand the rule. But now that they've got the concussion protocol, they got a lot of teams of three quarterbacks game day. This is crazy. Yeah. Well, they could have, right? The Niners could have done that. Yes. But I'm trying to figure out who their string quarterback even is. I'm not sure he exists. Well, the receiver, Joanne Jennings, was a four-star recruit to play quarterback out of high school. There we go. And he got no consideration. I was very surprised at that.

I know. Okay, but like, dude, first of all, Josh Johnson's been on like 10 teams in like six years. No, he's been on like teams. 13 teams. It's a third time with the 49ers. I think his first thing with the 49ers when John Harbaugh was the coach. Josh Johnson was drafted by the bucks when like they had Cadillac Williams and running back. Like, this was a long time ago.

Like, we even had a guy named after Carr. years. Every time Josh Johnson does anything in this league a tweet of mine from 2018 resurfaces, because I tweeted literally five years ago that Josh Johnson was signing with teams before you're born and he's going to keep signing with teams

well after you're dead. This was five years ago. He's still fucking doing it. Wasn't that when Washington played Josh Johnson? Like this was 2018 on like Monday night's football and we were like, oh my God, Josh Johnson finally got signed. You should see the transaction.

The transaction history for Josh Johnson is like 30 pages long. It's just like him getting released, signing to the practice squad, signing to the active roster getting released. It's like incredible. This guy's at the most extraordinary career I've ever seen. I'd love for him to like power rank organization. He's like the only one with that kind of insight. Seriously?

Like, hey, what's it like being on all these teams? Well, I don't, I think he just sees the practice field for the workouts. Like, it's just like, he's crazy. He just Uber's to the field to practice. Uber's home, that's it, no interaction with anybody else. Oh my God. Think of all the expenses he has to file. Oh, my God.

But yeah, no, I'm literally on a spot right. Like, I'm just looking at like his list. And it's just signed to practice squad by Denver, released by Denver, signed to active roster by Baltimore, signed by practice squad by New York, released by New York, signed with New York, released by San Francisco, signed by San Francisco.

That's just last two years. Yeah. That was like, that's just like, I'm tired of doing all this paperwork, man. Can you just go work? I mean, he probably has like a, template saved, and he just had to

switch up the teams. Yeah. Just cross out the first name. It's like Josh Johnson Free Agency team template. Can you imagine if Purtie got hurt,

like if the Niners were winning and Priddy got hurt at the end of that game and he was out and they had no other option but to start Josh Johnson in the Super Bowl. Like I don't,

I actually think the Super Bowl are like, Goodell would have stepped in. I don't know what would have happened. I just don't believe that they would have said, Yep, it's Patrick Mahomes versus Josh Johnson. No, I think that there would have been more interviewer question,

Josh Johnson than like any player in Super Bowl history because he's had more contact with different team reporters than any player in the history of the game. I don't know. They bring in Matt Ryan, they just sign Phillip Rivers something. They just allow it to happen. Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's out there. Ryan Fitzpatrick, they like Shanahan play.

This is crazy because, so we told me a lot of the Niners, and it's true, but the Eagles, dude, Hassan Redick absolutely destroyed this game too. like shut up. The Eagles, I feel bad because the Niners' defense actually played great because the first drive the Eagles said they scored a touchdown.

But like, Devonte Smith dropped the ball. So let's just say the Niners didn't give up a touchdown. There's three drives. The Eagles like gained like zero yards net. Like they basically, the Niners first four drives on defense were flawless. And then you could tell that they were like losing their minds.

Like they just, I mean, Dre Greenlaw of the line. And like he just do like left hooks to the running back with getting a game ball with the ball, which all connected by the way. And then like everyone got, They were shoving.

The Eagles got seven first downs by penalty, which is the most in the playoffs in like 20 years. Yeah. And it just, you could just tell. They were self-destructing a little bit, yeah. Yeah. Did you see Quinn and Williams,

the Jets defensive tackle, tweeted that now Nick Bosa sees what I've been dealing with all year? Like about Zach Wilson? Jesus. I thought you were talking about penalties for a second. No, no, he was talking about the quarterback situation. But that's the defense was just mad. Like they couldn't believe it.

You imagine Trepping for this. You're like, oh, we just don't have a quarterback. We're going to lose. And then Trent Williams happened. Oh, my God. Trent Williams. Dude, he's going to be like a professional wrestler after this, I think. He just chokeslam the guy.

Like, that was insane. Can I give you a hot take? I get it. I was kind of fine with it. That's all the Natives fans are like, I love it. But if it's like, if happens against you, you'd be absolutely livid. But of course, you're like, fuck it. Do it.

You know why? So I feel like all the players are pissed because they're going to this so we can win the super bowl. It's like your whole life you dreamed of this. And then you go in and it's kind of like when your flight gets canceled because like the flight attendant just didn't come. You're like, we're just out of quarterbacks?

Like can we just like, we don't have another one? That's why we're not going to get on this plane except it's your entire life aspiration. Yeah. It's like, yeah. Fight people. Speaking of Reddick, though, I do think we should give some credit to the Eagles.

And the first thing that came to my mind when I was watching this game is like, dads across the country are going to love this shit because it was like the cliche, they just dominated in the trenches. This was like a trench warfare game for the Eagles. Dads across the country are going to be talking about how the Eagles are going to win the Super Bowl

because they just dominate in the trenches. But it was absolutely true. They rushed for 148 yards and four touchdowns on like legitimately, probably the best defense in the NFL this year. And obviously it's like, you know, their past game wasn't really working. but they just had that backup.

They had that other pitch that they could use. They could just grind, essentially grind 49ers down throughout the rest of the game. And I saw this from Field Yates. The Eagles have brushed for 39 touchdowns this year, which includes the playoffs. That's the most by any team in NFL history. Jalen Hertz has 15 touchdowns, rushing touchdowns,

which is most by any quarterback in NFL history, including playoffs. Cam Newton in his MVP season had 14 back in 2015. And then on the other side of the ball, the Eagles absolutely dominated. Obviously, it helped a lot that, like, Purdy got hurt and then Josh Johnson. But, like, that, that's, however, I will say, they still did their job unbelievably well.

Reddick sacking Purdy and hurting him, essentially. Like, that's ultimately, like, a good job by the defensive line. Like, you took out his quarterback. Well, it was a strip sack. Like, it was, like, I think, also to your point, they gave up seven points of defense, but realistically, it was just an amazing play by McAfee, They had McCaffrey wrapped up for like a loss or two-yard gain or something,

and he's kind of like broke the tackle and ran. It's like one person missed to tackle. Other than that, kind of flawless game by the defense. I know like, but that's the point like you're supposed to. But just because they have a backup quarterback doesn't mean they basically had one play where they didn't do their job. Like otherwise the defense was perfect. I guess more of my point is just this is what they've been all year,

like really good on the ground, really, really good up front. Including the playoffs, they have 78 sacks. here, which is third all time. The two teams ahead of them, the 84 and 85 bears, which is generally considered the greatest defense of all time. And they had the extra game to get the sacks, but even if you just go by sack rate, the Eagles have the best sack rate of the 21st century.

Yeah. They're just, like, ludicrously good up front. Battle at trenches. Dads across the country. We love this shit. And also, it's so weird because, this is a little football nerdy, but there's such an interesting through line of, like,

the RPO, like the run-pass option. it's like 10 years ago, they hired Chip Kelly and everyone's like, oh, and it's like Chip Kelly comes out and has a very weird roller coaster arc as equals coach. But he accelerates all the college shit in the NFL, including like the RPO and Michael Vick and all that stuff. And then

he's fired, flushed, blah, blah, blah. Then five years later, like, the Eagles just win the Super Bowl running, among other things. RPO's with Nick Foles. And then new quarterbacks, God, Wentz is gone, Foles is gone, Doug Peterson's fired. Five years later, the Eagles are back in

the Super Bowl, running RPO's with Jalen Hertz, and like, the Howie Roseman, the gym, the Eagles is going to get a lot of credit the next two weeks. It's a little infuriating, but it's true. Like, they flushed a Super Bowl team. They did a little retool, and they should have the best defensive lines in the NFL.

And, like, their cornerbacks are the best in the NFL. They found a second round quarterback who just took them the Super Bowl. Like, they kind of did everything, right? They'd wait, and like all the analytics stuff, like they didn't spend any money on running backs and linebackers, which is whatever one says to do. It's like all the, it's like all the,

old school and new school football wisdom is kind of in this state, you know what I mean? I liked how after the game, I think I saw Hurd said something along the lines of like, when I got drafted, people didn't really even want me to be here. Because, you know, it was like controversial. That's true. Yeah, that's true. You're coming. Why are we wasting a second rounder on this guy?

We have, we have wents. You know what I mean? And so. So much draft adversity is manufactured. Like, like, Jamal Adamsman said, like, I remember everyone who went before me. And like, someone was like, dude, you went sixth. Like, it's not hard. Yeah, yeah.

But, like, that's true. Like, Philly did not watch Jayloris. I know. It's totally cool when, like, Draymond Green, who got picked, like mid-second round can do it. But if you're a lottery pick, I don't think it really counts.

Exactly. But, like, that's true. Jaylon Hertz is, um, also, I feel like he's probably, like, top two with Jimmy Grable, the hottest quarterback in the NFL. And he's now going to get,

like, the national recognition of just being, like, an attractive person. And he's got, like, an attractive aura as well, which don't always, go together. But I think he's going to get like mega famous over the next two weeks. It's a bummer that both these guys are hurt, to be honest. It sucks. But like,

and Hertz are not going to be at 100%. Harts is openly stated, I'm not 100%. And so it's going to be hard to prognosticate a little bit that these guys most likely aren't going to be at full strength in two weeks. Well, you're, you're dead on because look, we obviously have to, you know, have a lot of thoughts on a lot of games doing predictions and fantasy predictions during games. In my opinion, easily the hardest part is predicting how people will do with injuries. Like it's to some degree,

like it's unknowable. Like another person's like healthcare, you know what I mean? Like you can't. Like we're not supposed to know that to a degree. And like, now we have to do that for two weeks with the quarterbacks of both teams where everything you say has to be couched with, but I don't know how much they can throw. It's weird.

I mean, ironically, Mahomes actually looked way better than I was expecting this game. I think he got worse. I think it looked like he was in more pain as the game progressed. Yes. He was limping much more at the end than the first half. Well, that play where I think Mikul Hardman got not.

That play I thought was going to change the entire Chief season, where Mahomes kind of rolled left and made an incredible threat. Mahomes just breaks more rules that you're not supposed to do and gets away with it than anyone. And he rolls left and he threads a pass going across his body, like tow to the middle of field through four defenders and gets to Mikol. and they cut, and Miko looks, I don't know what happened him,

but he was very hurt. And then they cut to Mahomes, and Mahomes is hopping because he put all his weight on that ankle, and I'm like, this season just ended right here. They lost Mekul. Mahomes is hopping around. I'm like, I thought they were going to lose

at that point. But regardless, I think you're right, Craig. I think that no matter what happens with two weeks, it's important to remember that during the game, the ankle can get worse at literally any point.

And so it, but he also obviously is willing to just run and he doesn't care in the moment. Like he scrammy's doing anything, but it's crazy. I thought the whole Purdy injury was so weird today.

Like, he was on the sidelines just kind of sitting there and not doing anything. And I was like, why are they working on him? I guess perhaps his injury didn't require, you couldn't do anything to him.

But it looked weird because he was just kind of sitting kind of complacently just like on the bench or he had like the coat on was just kind of standing there. The optics. Yeah, I agree. And he was like throwing passes

on the sideline. They kept cutting him throwing passes. But then when he was in the game, he wasn't throwing passes. and I was like, what's going on? That was the weird part. It was also the first time I feel like Terry Bradshaw has had an actual analysis in like seven years

where he was like, oh, it's your grip thing. He's like what Greg Ellison said. It's your grip. I'm like, okay. But then he's throwing the balls. And then after the game, they're like, he told Kyle Shannon immediately because he was talking to Kyle.

You saw the video where he's like, I can't go it. And he said, I can't throw deep balls. And I'm like, why the fuck are they giving Christian McCaffrey a helmet if he can throw short balls? Why are throwing more screen passes? I don't understand. It almost was people were joking. Like he had no hands.

hand. You can at least check it out to the sideline. Yeah. His hand's gone, Jim. He's got no hand, Jim. I just like, it is, I, I, look, we got to be careful not to be like, he didn't, he wasn't actually hurt. Obviously, he wasn't actually hurt.

I'll do the caveat. Obviously, he couldn't play and he wanted to go to the Super Bowl. And he wasn't just like, my arm hurts. Like, we obviously are not calling him a bitch. Like, ow, my elbow. I can't throw. I can't throw anything. I can't even throw it five yards.

I was kind of like, so if he literally can't throw, then fucking just have McCaffrey, just do RPO's with people. I don't know. Run options with like a wildcat. If he can throw on, like I see him doing on the fucking sideline, just start throwing screens to Debo or George Kittle.

I didn't understand what was going on. It was, it was weird. I have to ask you a couple of things. I love SkyCam. I love SkyCam. It's not a question. I think that this is like, a conspiracy.

I think it's insane that this Niners Eagles game that the ball hit the wire and they didn't show the angle of SkyCam. They're like, yeah, I get it. They have no cameras

pointed at the camera. But wouldn't the SkyCam feed shake? Yeah, somebody made a great point. Couldn't you just watch the Sky Cam feed? If it rattled in the middle of the punt, you would know?

Is that not clear? What are you? What are hiding? Obvious visual evidence? Or can they not use context? This is what I'm saying. The NFL sucks. The game itself.

is stupid. We're arguing about what did the camera rattle if the ball is 50 feet in the air? What are you talking about the sport? Everything has to be a fucking conspiracy in this country. It's so ridiculous game. It's true though that like football for whatever reason begets conversations that

just don't happen in other sports. Like baseball and bat baseball it's like did the fan hit the like that's as complicated as a get and then someone always has to explain what a balk is to me. Basketball is like who's hand did it touch when it went out of bounds? That's pretty much as bad as it gets in basketball.

Football, we're like bringing in technology is a factor. There's, like, cameras being worked in. The rules were like, Craig, the rulebook is like 90 pages long. It's almost as long as Josh Johnson's employment history. It's like Josh Johnson's W2 and then the NFL rulebook. It's a bummer that America loves football so much because if we just all liked basketball, it would be way easier. Our lives would be so much easier.

Well, it's just too complicated. It's too complicated. Yeah. Well, a catastrophic basketball. basketball delay is like when they're, oh, someone like bent the rim and we have to fix it, which sucks, but it's super easy to understand. It's like a sweaty guy falls on the floor and they're like, hold on, we got to wipe down the floor.

That's pretty much as long as delays get in the NBA. The play clock was supposed to be reset, but the crowd is so loud. We didn't hear. And so the play ended, but we have to do it again. Can you imagine? This is the only part where the refs like turn to the audience and like explain something for like a full minute. Also, now that's so true.

Also, now that I'm saying it, I just, I think I just realized, are you telling me that the quarterbacks have radios to the coaches and the head refs can radio to the main guy, but the refs don't radio to each other? I think I just realized this. The refs should have walkie-talkies.

I just realized, I always was like, oh, the refs whistle for the players. I'm like, do the rest whistle to the other refs? Like, did the ref have no other way to communicate to the other refs that the play was over? I'm just realizing this. Can you remember a time when the refs came out and basically were like, we don't know. We all talked about it.

We don't know. Even when they don't know, they just make a call, right? They'll just say, like, we decided this is what happened. That is an essential part of a functioning society. There would be chaos and nobody needs to make a fucking decision here. Well, usually it's like, is it indisputable evidence, right? That's the rule that allows you to, if you can't tell, then it's not indisputable so you can't make the call. But this, because there's nothing about hitting a fucking wire.

It could have been anything. Can't trust eyewitness testimony, you guys. Why are we trusting these guys? I know that we said this earlier, but I'm bringing it up again. They broke the chain again. Again. It's the same one. How did they use the same one?

The tensile strength of these chains is that pretty good. If it was a high school, I get it. You know what I mean? Like, you can't just take it. a couple hundred bucks out of a high school budget to fix it. This is the NFL. They make $17 billion a year. They use the same broken chains.

How much does a chain link cost? You could go to Lowe's. You could get like 100 feet for $7. Stop me up. Like, let's be real. That has to be the cheapest part of the entire field, right? Is the chain links? This is the most, if you really think about it,

I mean, obviously, we talk football for like thousands of hours together. Like, it's the most absurd sport. It's so absurd. Everything about it is absolutely absurd. It's beyond analysis. But the best part, it's at Lincoln Financial Field. It's called the link. It's the name of the stadium.

Anyway, I can't. We didn't even, there's so much dumb shit that happened. And we even mentioned, Nick Bosa got fucking stabbed by a cleat. Oh yeah, he got on the sideline because some guy, like, kicked him. I swear, there's something in the water for the Niners. All of them just get hurt all the time. Dude, I think Jesse's right.

Jesse, you, Jesse, come back for a second because you guys are cursed. I'm just curious, just to button the Niners up one quick. Are you worried that your Super Bowl window's over? Because I hate to talk about contracts and bullshit, but it's like, saw how Brock Bertie is, like, the most solid part of your team. Because, like, Nick Bosa's going to get,

like, he's going to be the highest paid guy. You have, like, five starting defenders that are going to have to leave? and usually it's like whatever, but you gave up your first three picks. You gave up the Trey Lance pick. You gave up your first second and third rounder. I know the compensatory, but it's like that's outside the top 100. You're like, yeah.

Like, you're losing like seven starters and you don't have any good picks. What a brutal question to ask Jesse. He's like fresh off a devastating loss. You're like, do you think it's over? It's not even like, it's not even a question. So how do you feel you have no picks and your salary cap is fucked? So, Jesse, you just got divorced. There's not going to matter when they side's all the last season, all right?

Do you think you deserve love? Jesse, so you got divorced, what, last night? Yeah. You ever going to find love? Odds are no. But let's check it. It was actually two hours ago. Thanks for bringing it up.

Oh, my God. He's lost all hope. Hyphitz is an amazing interviewer. Jesse, who do you want starting for you week one next year? Triswitt, right now I would go Brock Purdy. Wow. Not Josh Johnson? No.

He can remain stash in the practice squad. All right. This is a dumb question. but would you rather have Tom Brady? Not a dumb question. You can convince me of it, but I feel right. You can be convinced that you'd rather want Tom Brady over Brock Birdie?

Yes. I would take some convincing. Okay. All right. Right now, I'm going to stick with what's been pretty good. Is Brock Berti like a cult leader or something? They will might be. Col of Port personality.

I haven't been on the pod since I've been gone for a couple weeks. I haven't been on the pod since Brock Fordy's done on his bullshit in the playoffs. Am I taking crazy? Brock Purdy is mediocre, folks. Brock Purdy is fine. Brock Purdy can throw a slant, and Brock Purdy does what Kyle Shanahan tells him to do,

which I get is the point. But the fact that, and Jesse, you're not alone. There are plenty of people who I talk to who are like, I don't know, like, yeah, we can get Rogers or Brady, but like, purdy. I'm like, are you guys out of your mind? You just want to shake them. It goes back to what Hypert said is the fact that our windows

kind of lost. We're going to lose a lot of players. Nick Bosa is going to get paid tremendous amount of money. You're not going to have to make Brock Party that much. You can save so much and he's shown that he can at least get the ball out to the, you know, Debo and, you know, we'll see if

CMC stays. AYUK. So, I mean, we'll see. It's not really bright, but, you know, it's, in the off season, you never know what can happen. So I'm going to wait to see what happens in the off season. But right now, I'm rocked.

I'm rocking with Purdy. I can't think of anything funnier than Tom Brady signing this offseason with the 49ers for this homecoming that he's always wanted growing up watching Joe Montana as a kid. He comes back. And the whole year the 49ers fans are like chanting. Purdy! Purti!

Skip A list is like, I don't know. I think Purdy was, I think they should have stuck with Purdy. It's like leading first take. 49ers go like 15 and 2 and like at the number one seat and fans are just like the first time Brady throws a pick. They're like, you know what? This never would have happened.

They're like, Purdy could move. At least Purdy was mobile. Yep. You're 7-0, guys. This one doesn't count because he got hurt. What a great ending for Purdy, to be honest, because now he's like frozen in undefeated Amber right now. He's the mosquito in Jurassic Park.

Yeah. It's so true. He's the big winner of the day, honestly, by far. Yeah, he really is. His elbow looks like, it'll be fine. Just banged up the nerve. And now he's, look, he's undefeated. They would have won.

Perfect. All right. Also, I actually would like to throw out the single. biggest loser of the day. Okay. The Empire State Building has like this official Twitter account, but also the Empire State...

Of course it does. But it happened in real life, though, which is the problem. The Empire State Building went Eagles Colors in real life, in Manhattan. And they tweeted out, go birds. The Empire State Building! If it's you're talking to West Coasters, we don't really get it. Okay.

I mean, it's the same division. I get it. What are we talking about here? I mean, we get it. Imagine if the Seattle Space Space needle lit up 49ers colors for like solidarity with Brock Bernie's injury. That's what happened. It said like Brock hard. Okay, I understand. We're Brock hard in Seattle. It's like this is the epicenter of this is our thing. It's like it's like treason. It's literally

sports treason. It's the only way to describe it. Well, we've all gone soft here. Why did they do this? We've gone soft as a country. No one knows. Like that's the thing. They didn't have to do it. They didn't have to do anything really. No. Not to state the obvious, but this is a the most famous fucking building in New York City and it's the New York Giants and their division rivals with the fucking Eagles and they're like, yeah, go Eagles. It's like,

dude, what are you doing? DK touched on the issue. DK. said it in plain sight. Didn't even realize it. He's like, they didn't have to do that. The whole fucking problem with social media. Nobody has to do any of this. You can simply don't tweet. It's not a social media thing. They did it in real, oh, maybe you know. That's true.

Empire State Building. But they probably did it to post it. They light up lights. No. This has been at, they light up lights all the time. No, I know they do that, but I'm saying they probably turned it green so they could promote it to people who live in Philadelphia who can't fucking see it. But also in real life,

they have to put it off in social media. They promoted it to the entire city of New York, which is a real place with people who hate the Eagles. I'm just saying, this is all because nobody likes to sit on the sidelines anymore. When anything big's happening, it's like, how can we be a part of the conversation? It's that, you're right.

Let's make it. Green. Who cares? The Empire State Building's a fair weather fan. That's what I looked. They just beat us seven days ago. I know! By like 30 points! Okay.

Well, stop me up. Don't tweet is the lesson here. You guys got to go back and watch the Rolling Stones. Start me up. Applebee's commercial. They just shoulder. Riving on the ground. Rotated 360 degrees.

It's like Mick Jagger's singing about buffalo wings. It's so good. All right. I think that's all we got. All right. A lot of Eagles Chiefs companies in the Super Bowl. We're going to be at the Super Bowl. We're at Mobile, Alabama, this week.

Dicke and I are going for the Senior Bowl. And then we're going to be all of us going to be in Phoenix for the Super Bowl. So a lot of fun stuff coming to you guys. Hit us up with, um. Draft stuff, Super Bowl stuff. Hit us up with Phoenix. Glendale, Scottsdale, Phoenix. You got restaurants, bars, anything you guys think is fun.

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So emails at Ring and Fantasy Football at Gmail.com. Also, any questions, the Senior Bowl, the Super Bowl, the Super Bowl, Eagles, Chiefs, anything. You want us to do something dumb at Media Day? We'll consider it. Like, whatever you want. So we can embarrass ourselves. You want us to do something dumb, maybe?

maybe we'll do it we'll laugh about it and then not do it we'll see all right high fits will do anything so except light up eagles colors

that I will never do thank you thank you tk what are you saying k what are the odds that you didn't lose you won trivia right you won showdown time year long trivia if DK lost that damn I was going to say we should just throw you

in an eagle's jersey all week if you would have lost that we did some bet And yet I want. Put you in Eagle's gear. Maybe I'll just put D.K. N 49ers gear. And then he'll just, he'll get it. Whatever. Okay, it sounds like a yes.

Glad he accepted. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Jesse for production. Sorry I asked you. That really mean question. Empire State Building. Yeah, he's got it out.

Empire State Building. We're going to cut you out from just, you're cut off. We're sending you to New Jersey. You're disavowing the Empire State Building. Yeah, I disavow the Empire State Building. Yes. Okay.

Excommunicating it. Yeah. Send it to Philly. Philly, you can have it. Exile. They can have it. You know how France gave a set your liberty? We're going to give Philly the Empire State Building.

You can just have it. We are. Yeah. Thank you, Lauren. Lord. Thank you, Rolling Stones. Stop me up. Two for one apps.

Never stop. Does they have the audio of the guy getting his like shoulder snap back in? No, the audio was just all Applebee's. And it was just hilarious watching Mick Jagger singing will never stop. As we're watching some NFL guy's shoulder tear it, it's like, never stop. Oh, boy. Oh, you know, it's a little moments like that. No one could have ever seen that coming.

It's great. The last few moments of Unpredictable. the ability we have left these days. Everything's curated. Not that. I do want someone from the Empire State Building get fired, though. If it sneeds this pound of flesh.

They should lose their job. I'm just saying, like, I don't like to call for people to lose the job. Whoever's in charge of the Empire State Building should lose their fucking job. Well, do you think they were giving the okay to light it up green? Do you think it was the guy who runs the Empire

State Building is in charge of that? Well, to tell you the truth, I don't know who runs it. Does somebody run the Empire State Building? I don't know. I don't. You said it. What I'm saying is they either need a promotion or to get fired because either the jobs to be part of New York or their jobs to like get cloud.

The cloud has been achieved. Yeah. Who runs the Empire State Building? I actually don't. I don't know who owns it actually. Does somebody run a building a person? It's like a holding company or something. It's like got its own zip code.

It's like the Empire State Realty Trust. There you go. I guess there's a guy who runs that. I mean, I assume so. Team. Tony Malkin is the chairman, president, and CEO of Empire State Realty Trust. Anthony Malkin. Oh, yeah.

Who's this guy? Now we know. Trader. Where's he from? If he's in Philly, that would be hilarious. Oh, my God. Malkin Holdings. I'm going to learn everything about this guy.

What can I find out about you? I'm going to go to his LinkedIn. You used to work for the Clinton Climate Initiative, urban land institute. He went to Harvard. Cool. Yeah, you're right. This guy went to Philly.

I'm, oh. I don't see any Philadelphia. I don't see any Pennsylvania in his resume. Hmm. All right. All right, Anthony. We'll let you go this time. It's going to skate.

Yeah. I can't keep getting away with this. All right. Email us at ringing fantasy football at gmail. if you know how deep this conspiracy guess. If you have any information on Anthony Malkin, please reach out. He's super powerful and rich. We probably shouldn't call him out my name.

Whatever. All, goodbye, everyone.