The Ringer NFL Show - Championship Murderers, Fantasy Randomness, and Sneaky MVPs
Episode Date: January 3, 2023We recap Week 17 and highlight the players that murdered your championship, led by Justin Jefferson, Trevor Lawrence, and DK Metcalf. We then discuss the players like Mike Evans who randomly blew up t...his week, Tom Brady’s huge day, winners of the season, and the sneaky over-performers. We then add our final player this year to the Ringer Fantasy Burn Book. Email us! ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck.
Happy New Year.
I hope Larry David doesn't yell at me for saying that already.
but we're doing our sunny recap show on Monday.
It is what it is.
We're going to go through all our awards.
Championship week.
Oh, what a week it was.
Yeah.
Up is down, left is right.
Craig, how are you feeling?
I don't think I've seen a championship week
with lower scores across the board than this week
in fantasy football.
Like every friend's league I see online,
every league I'm in,
like the championship is like 80 to 90.
Like everything is just wonky this week.
But I wanted to point out,
I wanted to start today on a negative note.
I feel like we've done that for the past three weeks.
weeks and I wanted to continue that tradition.
We've been doing the fantasy murderers.
And, you know, to round out the season, I wanted to do the championship serial killer
starting lineup.
I wanted to go through the lineup you could have had this week, Phil the Stars, that
absolutely ripped the rug out from under you.
So I wanted to talk about a particular lineup here.
I'm going to read it.
This is a super flex lineup that is a super reasonable, real lineup of starters who have been good
for you all season.
This could be a championship roster.
Yes, very likely could be a championship roster.
Kurt Cousins, Justin Jefferson, D.K. Metcalfe, and Christian Kirk are your receivers.
Your running backs for Saquan and Dalvin Cook.
Your tight end is Evan Ingram.
Your flex, your super flex, Trevor Lawrence.
The last three weeks, weeks 14, 15, and 16, that lineup averaged 150 points per week.
This week, championship week, that lineup, so again, last three weeks combined, on average, 150 points.
This week, that exact lineup, 37 total points.
Someone email us if you had this exact lineup,
because this is an all-timer.
I mean, this is a lineup with Justin Jefferson
and Kirk Cousins who have been the number one wide receiver
and the number one quarterback in fantasy
the last three weeks.
Sequin Barclay, who's been putting up 20 points a game
for the last week.
Evan Ingram, who's been a top three tight end
over the last month.
Trevor Lawrence, who has turned into a fantasy superstar
over the last month.
All of them completely shit the bed.
Oh.
man. Yeah, I was complaining
to Hyphitz yesterday about
D.K.K. Metcalfe and Tyler Lockett
and at one point in the game
the running back was hurt
Kenny Walker and Hyphitz is like,
your team's winning. I'm like, well,
my fantasy team sure shit ain't right now. It's
freaking depressing. There's two games that really stood out, I feel like.
It's the Vikings Packers game and then the
Jags Texans. I actually don't know which one's
more demoralizing. It actually might
be the Jags game because they were playing
the Texans. They're like 28 to
nothing when Lawrence went out.
Right.
Like if you,
if you logged on to like ESPN app,
you know,
at halftime,
and you're like,
you have Trevor Lawrence
and Christian Kirk,
or Evan Ingram,
and you're like,
oh, great.
Like the Jaggs are up 21-0
and you check in Trevor Lawrence
has 40 yards passing,
no touchdowns.
The only person on the team
doing anything is Travis ETIN.
I would like to point out
that Trevor Lawrence was outscored
by like three backup quarterbacks
who entered in the middle of their games.
Like Sam Ellinger had more points
than Trevor Lawrence.
He entered in like halftime.
Freaking,
uh,
Nick Mullins came in for like the final five minutes of the game
when the Vikings were down 40 points
and he had more points in those five minutes
than Trevor Lloyd's did in the entire time.
I couldn't have told you what team Nick Mullins was on before this week.
But with all that though,
I think Justin Jefferson and the Vikings were more disappointing
because Justin Jefferson, they need,
first of all, when the Vikings fall behind,
like this isn't random.
This happened three weeks ago.
I think Kirk Cousins had like negative points
when they went down 33 to nothing against the cults.
Kirk Cousins had like negative points in the first half.
He finished with like 30, like the second half.
You're like, all right, Vikings are down.
He's going to pass it done.
That was the worst game of Justin Jefferson's career.
Like fantasy, you probably took him in the first round.
If you listen to us, you had him as the first wide receiver off the board.
And he got you to your championship.
He's literally the wide receiver won.
He's leading yet to fall in yards.
Yeah.
He literally has, I looked, he has not had one catch in a game since 2018,
one of his first games at LSU.
That is the last time.
He had one catch for 50 yards.
And then Craig almost understood.
D.K. Metcalf had one catch for like three yards.
It was his worst game of the season.
There was three guys on that lineup that I just listed
had their worst game of the entire year.
D.K. Metcap, Dalvin Cook, Trevor Lawrence,
had the worst games of their entire season.
Saquan, second worst game of the season.
Dalvin Cook, third worst game of the season.
It was a disaster.
It was a disaster.
And you know what?
Having Kirk Cousins on a fantasy team, which I did,
you know, I was in three leagues this year.
The one I probably paid attention to the least
was the one I ended up in the championship in,
which is hilarious.
Of course.
But Kirk Cousins was my quarterback in that league.
And luckily throughout the year,
because of my other leagues,
I didn't really have to ever focus on Kirk Cousins.
I could always watch my other quarterbacks.
I could watch Joe Burrow or whoever.
Having only Kirk Cousins this week,
you realize what you really feel about a quarterback
when you have to watch him and root for them.
Do you hate him?
Kirk putting up 25 a game the last three weeks meant nothing to me.
The second this game began,
I was like, man, I'm so screwed.
Kirk's terrible.
Well, you know why?
This was basically a national game,
because you've ever seen those maps of where local television,
which markets have the games,
I've never seen this before.
There's like 100 markets that they divide the NFL into.
98 out of 100 markets carried Vikings Packers at 4 o'clock Eastern over rims charges.
Literally, L.A. and San Diego had the charges in the rims.
The other 98 had Vikings backers.
So it was, in fact, prime time for Kirk Couss.
But here's the thing.
I would like to actually give the Vikings the George Santos Award, which is a new award we're doing here.
The George Santos Award for serial lying on their residence.
it may because the Vikings are i mean they lost this game 41 to 17 it was 41 to 3 with like nine
minutes left they were uncompetitive if you will high fits oh yeah the Vikings are not 12 and 4 at
a point differential of negative 19 they have been outscored by 19 points that's amazing and they are
12 and 4 and so basically by Pythagorean expectation which is very fancy math that books use to like
set wind totals and actually tells you their Vikings are literally the lucky
team of all time. Literally number one luckiest team in terms of like how they performed
versus what their record is. And so I think they did not, the Vikings did in fact not graduate
from college. The Vikings never worked at Goldman Sachs. The Vikings are not putting out statements
clarifying that they meant they were Jew-ish. And so I just think that they were serial liars
throughout the entire season. So George Santos Award. All four of their losses this year have been
absolutely just annihilation blowouts. And then all their wins have been one-score games.
Yeah, I mean, it's looking like the Vikings could face the Giants week one in the playoffs,
which we kind of always joked.
It was like the fraud game, but the Giants are no longer frauds, and the Vikings are even more frauds.
So I've been saying I can't wait to empty my bank account on whoever the Vikings play,
and I wish it wasn't the Giants, but I'm going to have to do it.
I am thrilled.
You know, if we can go out of order here for a moment, if you'll indulge me, the New York Football Giants.
Sure.
One of the winners of the week.
DK reminded me of how the Giants smacked the cults.
And it reminded me, D.K., of what you talk about when you talked about watching that Broncos Seahawks Super Bowl,
where the first snap of the game goes over, Manning's head, 41 to 8 or whatever.
And it's like, there's something beautiful when your team plays a perfect, stress-free football game.
You can actually enjoy it.
Yeah, you're not sweating every snap.
The Giants beating Washington two weeks ago was their most important win in a very long time.
This was the Giants' best win in years.
It was incredible.
They clinched the thing.
And, like, honestly, I feel really good about them playing the Vikings.
I feel great about this.
And the irony is that for weeks,
Giants fans have been like,
if the Eagles just clinched
that number one seed in the last game of the season,
then, like, they could bench their starters,
Giants will be able to win.
And that was the opposite.
Giants are clinched.
They could bench their starters
and the Eagles needed win the game.
It's like, this is crazy.
The Giants kind of gave themselves a bye week
if they want one.
It's crazy.
I'm thrilled.
You are a Ryan cloud,
what's like cloud nine?
Is that it?
You're on Cloud 9 right now.
Let's zoom out a little bit.
There was reports this week,
and forgive me,
I don't remember who it came from,
but the Giants are going to look
to re-sign Sequin and Daniel Jones
this off-season, how does that make you feel
in the afterglow of this game?
I don't know what that means because, honestly,
sometimes front office will leak that.
Yeah, well, sometimes front office leak that stuff
so the player looks bad if they don't play ball,
basically, you know what I mean?
So I don't necessarily think that that means they'll sign back.
However, dude, Daniel Jones got a standing ovation leaving this game.
He looks really good.
I can't tell you.
He looks really good.
I have not, I can't remember quite rooting for a play.
in any sport that took me on the journey that Daniel Jones has.
But it is, I would say in just a couple months, it's gone from, I don't want to
resign him to, I think they have to, to I think they should, to now it's like, yeah,
they obvious have to bring this guy back.
For better or for worse, he's the heart and soul of the team.
And I will say, that's so weird to think about the heart and soul of the team, the guy
who shows zero emotion ever.
Well, that's, but he is, though.
You know what the irony was the whole year, what did we say?
Brian Dable will try to do with Daniel Jones
with Josh Allen.
And the whole thing is, well, he's not Josh Allen,
but he has been in that, you know what?
Everyone thought he sucks and he's better than he thought.
He's not Josh Allen and he's not ever going to win MVP.
Yeah.
He's just, first, also Brian Dable,
I've got to send you guys this picture.
I want,
have you seen Brian Dable with this goatee?
Is there ever in NFL history,
has there ever been a head coach
who looked more like a fan
who just wandered in from the tailgate
than Brian Dable?
in your life.
Have you seen him?
Google Brian Dave with this goatee.
He just looks like a Giants fan
who is grilling sausages
in the parking lot
and somehow wandered under the field.
Just in a giant windbreaker,
big ass beanie.
It's ridiculous.
Oh, wow.
And he's not getting rid of the goatee
till we lose.
His whole head is just like
extremely round.
His head's a circle.
I can't believe the Giants
are doing this with the receivers they have.
I can't remember
the worst receiving corps
making the playoffs.
Isaiah Hodgens
might actually be good.
It took me three months to figure out
what the right metaphor is for this Giants team,
but it's, it's,
it's kind of like they have to make dinner every night,
but like they don't actually have any ingredients.
So it's like, okay, Trader Joe's Frozen Meal one day.
And then it's like, okay, you know,
I can just kind of, you know,
maybe like the Whole Foods hot bar one day.
And then like, oh, these microwavable from the frozen things.
It's like Brian DeBall is on the show chopped,
but for football?
Yes.
Yeah.
And they're like, all right,
you have to make the playoffs with Isaiah Hodgins,
Daniel Jones,
Richie James,
and Daniel Bellinger.
Yeah,
she gave this
Michelin Star chef,
but it's just like
go to the frozen
at Trader Joseph.
You're like,
Jesus Christ,
quail it?
I'm not going to do this.
It's unbelievable.
Put it in the air fire.
Also,
I will say,
the Cave on Tibito,
Snow Angel by Nick Foles.
Tough luck.
Riving body was awful.
I don't really.
I believe that he doesn't,
he didn't realize that.
He didn't realize it.
You can see,
like,
his vision never got,
his,
never saw Mick Fulz.
Nick Fulz is just writhing.
I'm not laughing about that,
but just the optics of this were very tough.
It was objectively funny
to see someone like convulsing next to a guy
doing Snow Angels on the ground.
I hope everyone's healthy.
With that said, it was hilarious.
All right.
Giants are incredible.
One random note about this.
I saw this with the Giants making it.
Now, the NFL has gone 33 straight seasons
with four new teams making the playoffs every year.
Love that parody.
It's all made up.
Plains don't matter.
And one of those teams
that clinched,
repeat,
the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
And do you know how many people
were facing down
the toilet bowl,
maybe last place in their league,
and Mike Evans was there to save them?
Because I assume zero people
won their championship
if you had Mike Evans got there,
but in the end,
he saved you with one of the best
week 17 performances from a receiver.
I was in a final this week.
I have Mike Evans on my team.
I benched him.
And now I'm probably going to lose
this fucking finals.
because Mike Evans, who didn't do anything for me on the way there,
scored 48 points.
Seeing 48 points on your bench,
there's not much worse than that.
And then obviously, of course,
Ty O'Lock goes out there.
That's more than the team, Craig.
48 points is more than the team Craig outlined at the beginning of the show.
Yes.
Which was practically my dynasty championship team.
Oh, my God.
So that's more than Kirk, Trevor Lawrence,
Justin Jefferson, D.K. McEff, Christian Kurt, Sequin, Dau, Davel Cook,
Evan Engel combined.
That's like 10 fewer points, actually, just Mike Evans.
So, while we're on the,
Wait, hold on.
If my rough math is correct,
Mike Evans, 43 points on week 17,
is more than he had in weeks nine through 16 combined.
Yeah.
This makes sense, though,
because if you've been watching the books, though,
there have been so many just shots from Brady,
40 or 50 yards down field that for whatever reason,
he was flagged for defensive pass interference or overthrown.
And they just all hit this week.
Yeah.
Regression, slant, like, freight train.
right into us here.
So Mike Evans this year,
weeks 1 through 16,
three touchdowns.
Week 17, three touchdowns.
Mike Evans, points per game
in the fantasy play.
So it was 14 through 16 in the fantasy playoffs.
He was averaging 9.2 points per game before today,
which was 46.
He was the 46th receiver in points per game
during the fantasy playoffs before today,
or before Sunday.
And then he scored 48 points.
Tom Brady's longest touchdown pass
all season was 31 yards before today.
he had three to Mike Evans today,
63 yards, 57 yards, and 30 yards.
He had one touchdown pass of more than 20 plus yards all season before Sunday.
And then he had three to fucking Mike Evans in this game.
Can we just talk about Tom Brady now?
Let's talk about Tom Brady now.
Tom Brady, what's the stepbrothers quote?
Dad, I'm doing this because I love you.
Fuck you.
Tom Brady waits until week 17,
a time when no one who drafted him is still alive in fantasy.
It was like a ninth plane.
to look like
Finnitch Brady again.
He had 400 yards,
three touchdowns.
He added a rushing touchdown
just to fucking twist the knife.
Quarterback won on the day.
You know what's funny about that is the rushing touchdown.
It was like originally a four net touchdown.
Yeah, I know.
And then they just zoom in to the 1,000th pixel
and figure out that he actually wasn't in.
And of course, Brady comes in, punches in a QB sneak.
He looked great, Tom Brady.
This is what I drafted him for, unfortunately.
We used to have that award.
This is why I drafted you award.
Well, I guess he wanted to wait, let all the doubters die,
and then show up in week 17 and just rip your soul out,
be the number one quarterback of the day.
Never again.
I don't care what team he's on next year.
I don't care if he's on the fucking 49ers.
I'm not doing it.
Craig hates Tom Brady so much.
He was texting us during the day yesterday,
just like, fuck Tom Brady.
The dude put up 14 fantasy points a game for 16 weeks.
Oh, my God.
It did feel like they got their mojo back, though.
Like, this makes me actually believe in the buck
ears a little bit going into the playoffs.
Yo, I got to tell you, everyone's desire to just write off the Buccaneers,
I kind of think it's incredible that they genuinely, now Tom Brady is genuinely has the
nobody believes in this thing for the playoffs because how many consecutive, how many consecutive games
have the Bucs looked awful when Brady just brought them back by the skin of his teeth?
Like, right?
I mean, they did it basically in prime time and back-to-back weeks, right?
Yeah.
What was the Colts game?
I can't even remember.
Yeah, the Colts game where it was like 17.
He did it twice in a row.
It's almost like they're getting,
they're in mid-season form.
They're in mid-playoff run form.
They've already had six-comeback.
It feels like six-comeback wins
in the last seven weeks.
Yeah, he came back.
Remember, he beat the Saints
and then he did it against the Cardinals.
So, you know what's so funny
after this whole season,
we've just been like Brady Rogers,
I don't know.
If the Packers make the playoffs,
and the Packers just rock the Vikings.
Now it's just Brady and Rogers
in the plus, who wants to play them?
And no matter what the NFC playoff matchups
end up being, if Giants Vikings
seems mostly locked in,
whether it's count,
I mean, whether it ends up being
Cowboys Packers, that is delicious.
Cowboys' bucks is delicious because that was week one.
And then with those bucks,
whatever ends up happening,
these matches are incredible in the NFC.
If you had to rank the NFC
playoff teams in terms of confidence,
just straight up confidence scale.
I think Eagles and Niners are my top two.
Yeah.
And then you could make a legitimate case
that it then goes to the Packers and the Bucks after that.
Not the Cowboys?
I mean, I don't know, man.
If it was just straight up bucks cowboys
and your gun is to your head,
What are you picking?
Right.
Brady, Brady.
No, I'm serious, Brady.
Dude, I'm not picking.
This is such a good example of Brady.
This is, to me, the perfect encapsulation of the, like, the term and the expression, it's a long season.
Like, it's a long season.
We had completely written off the Packers.
I believe they were 4'8 at one, at one point.
The Buccaneers looked like garbage.
I don't think we wrote them off because they were in such a terrible division, but, like, still, we were just like, they look terrible.
This is like Brady, we're already talking about where Brady's going to go next year.
You know what I mean?
And then these teams could sneak in and make some real noise in the playoffs.
Like the Packers' defense is playing well now.
You know, they got Jayara Alexander out there shutting down Justin Jefferson.
I don't know, man.
Long season.
I mean, we vowed not that long ago that we would never doubt Tom Brady again.
And I'm just saying, like, I think it's incredible.
You have to renew those vows a lot.
At some point, these guys just do what they've been known for.
Aaron Rogers, I feel like his thing is starting.
terribly. And then just
December happens. And then you're like, oh,
they're in the playoffs and they look great. And this
was the year, yeah, but not this year. And it just
happened again. And Brady again, wow,
they look terrible. And it's like, okay, cool. He's just had
low key five of the bucks wins. The final five minutes have been
some of the best football in any other quarterback's
career have just been like what Brady's been
orchestrating. We barely care. So I don't know.
The NFC playoffs, you go back
four months to where we were with like the AFC being better.
And suddenly it's like the NFC playoffs to me are like so
much more interesting. The AFC is like,
three teams I want to watch and then just other teams.
And then the NFC, they're all interesting.
Speaking of which, there are so many people to shout out, but I do want to think a big
loser this week is Derek Carr.
Yeah, that's tough.
Remember, like, very, not that long ago when we were like, oh, my God, you don't have to play
Josh Jacobs and Devante Adams.
Oh, no.
Against the best defense in the NFL.
First of all, how happy you must have you have been if you had the Niners defense against
the guy making his first career start.
And it turns out, I can't, I mean.
Jared Stidham basically was it was like a Peyton Manning Brady matchup.
He had 365 yards, three touchdowns.
The only two quarterbacks to throw for three touchdowns against San Francisco this season are Patrick Mahomes and Jared Stidham.
And after the entire season, Derek Carr had not had 310 yards in a single game.
Jared Stidham goes out at his first first start against the best defense in football and he gets 365 yards.
Best defense, by the way, which was pretty healthy.
Dregg Greenlaw got hurt during the game
but for the most part they had like their guys
This was not like a fluke
I mean it probably was a fluke
But like it wasn't like they were just really
Really banged up or whatever you know what I mean
I want to say they had over 500 yards in this game
They had exactly 500 yards of offense
This is why football is great
This is why football is just the best
You could take the top 10 smartest NFL minds
analysts in the world
And have them preview this Niners Raiders game
And not one of them
Could have even fathomed this happening
Oh, man.
There are Black Swan events every season.
There's always like, honestly, there's one a month where it's, you know, I remember saying,
not to tip my own horn, but like, people were asking like, well, the Eagles go undefeated.
I'm like, this happens every year where the undefeated team always loses the dumbest game
left on their schedule.
Always.
Yeah.
And then they, and it's like that's like the Washington being Philadelphia at the time was unfathomable.
This game.
But there's always like six things that were unfathomable every season.
The Texans.
going with the Cowboys and Chiefs at overtime.
Two weeks.
Should that be Jared Stidham's nickname?
In Vegas, the Black Swan?
Ooh.
That's actually pretty good.
Here's a couple notes.
Number one, the Raiders did lose the game.
I want to give a shout out to the 49ers.
Come on, no, come on.
It was like 30 for all.
It was like two minutes left.
Dude, that was honestly the best outcome.
Oh, yeah.
No, it was the best outcome for the Raiders because they actually were like,
oh my God, is Jared Stim good?
It looked good.
It kind of gave everyone something to rally around so the team chemistry wasn't poison,
but they lost in their best.
better position for the draft.
So kind of better.
Absolutely.
I'm still going to get a top-ded pick right now.
The other thing I wanted to ask is,
do you think there's a world in which Stidham
is actually like a starter next year?
Or is this just kind of one of those things that is funny?
And we like look back on that.
Hey, remember that Stidham play game or whatever?
It says Matt Flynn vibes all over it.
Totally, totally.
I think that's a good, that's a very good comparison.
I think someone, I forget who,
someone on the Raiders made the point that Jared Stidom
knew the offense better than anyone because Josh McDaniels
and that Jared Stidham basically came over
to teach other people the offense.
That's, like, more or less why he was signed.
And so that combined, I don't want to say
he knew it better than Carr, but like, probably.
But then combined with, honestly, he took hits.
And again, we told us.
Yeah, he was tough.
He was sitting there in the pocket and, like,
staring down the gun barrel.
The only reason I bring this up,
the only reason I am leaving a sliver of hope
that Stidom is maybe like an actual NFL starter
going down the line is the fact that the guy
who's playing against Brock Purdy
looks like he might actually be
an NFL starter.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's going to be talk before next year of the Brock Purdy versus Trey Lance,
you know, QB competition.
Trey Lance just had another surgery on his ankle.
Oh, my God.
It's going to happen.
The Niners.
The Niners are just sick.
Every fucking year, man.
I have to say, Brock Purdy is playing well enough because my dad was like, is this kid,
he's great.
Why don't we just go get it?
Why can't teams just go get Brock Purdy?
And I'm like, he's not actually.
There's a lot of quarterbacks this year.
It would only be good on this team.
That have just seemingly come out of absolutely nowhere.
Kyle Shanahan is almost too good of a coach for his own good.
Because no matter who's playing quarterback, they become great,
and the fan base falls in love with them.
And then it's a new player added into the competition mix.
I will say part of me wonders if he's played well enough that I've been wondering
if the Niners will sign Tom Brady next year.
Right.
Because the only question to me is whether he'll be in a completely different time zones
from his son and...
Other than that...
Why wouldn't he?
Yeah, but other than that, he's from the Bay Area.
He grew up a huge Niners fan.
Like, why wouldn't you try...
Like, it's objectively one of the
at least best three situations for him
if he wants to play next year.
I would argue it's very easily, actually, number one.
It's just whether he wants to do it.
But I'm now, if you're the Niners,
it's like, okay, well, it's not actually a terrible option
if you have to go in the next year
with Brock Birdie and Trey Lance,
whereas it kind of seemed like they were screwed
and they're not, which is nuts.
Also, you just get to check down at Christian McAford.
It seems like a good job.
McAfri's insanely good.
Also, wait, sorry, before I get off Brock Perny, it's from NFL research.
He has won each of his first four NFL starts, becoming the fourth rookie quarterback ever to do that since 1950.
And the last people who do that are Ben Rothesberger, Phil Sims.
And then Mike Cruczech, which is like a coisbach, but the opposite.
It's just not a good thing.
no idea who there is.
No.
Yeah, the Purdy thing, I feel like,
just gets more and more unlikely every week.
But this is what we do.
This is what Shane of hand does.
I mean, like, pretty looks good.
I, you know, it's just like,
I don't have any explanation for it.
Like, this guy was literally the last pick in the draft.
No one wanted him.
I heard Greg Fosell talking about how a lot of teams,
he had heard, a lot of teams had,
didn't even have a PFA,
a priority free agent grade on him.
In other words,
they weren't going to sign him regardless of what happened.
Like, they aren't even interested in a free agency.
That's the Shanahan thing.
And I know we always talk about Shanahan, like, it's magic.
But, like, there's a reason every player who's ever played for him is basically like he's the best guy at this.
Nick Mullins?
The way Joe Thomas, well, the way Joe Thomas explained, you know, the Hall of Fid left tackle, and he was like,
Kyle Shannon turns your brain into a computer.
Is it a zero or is it one?
If that, then do that.
There's no.
And so when you completely remove all doubt and hesitation, you just can just execute, he makes it very simple.
And I think that it's actually similar to the running backs
where sometimes we don't know which running backs,
the higher draft ones do it, do it because it's not about
who's the most talented, who's the best.
It's just, do you just do exactly what they want,
exactly the way they want it.
And quarterback is kind of the same way
where that's why Kirk Cousin succeeded with Shannon
where it's like, just do exactly what you're told.
Now, when Cousins doesn't have Kyle Shanahan
and he has to do some shit on his own,
he doesn't do very well.
But I think that's Brock Bertie just has incredible skill players around him.
And he's just doing exactly what Shannon
wants. It's like, all right, cool. This is what it looks like.
I really like that purdy has a
what seems like a burgeoning
repertoire or
chemistry with Kittl. Like
the Kittal Purdy connection is pretty
awesome. This is way too late
in the show to just be bringing this guy out because he deserves
some flowers. Winner
of the week, since this was a big negative
show most of so far.
Austin Echler,
incredible. Number one running back on the week.
Number one running back in the entire season
and it turns out the best fantasy pick
of the
at least of the first round
was the guy who actually
plays fantasy football.
I think the strongest
indicator that you need to focus on
when drafting a player
in fantasy football
and this may seem counterintuitive
but if they were
really fucking good last year
just draft them again.
If they scored a ton
of fantasy points last year
just draft them again.
Just a general rule.
Austin Declan 20 touchdowns last year
at 18 this year,
he'll probably end up with 20.
Yeah.
He will probably end up
up with 20. He also has the fourth most
catches. The only people who are catches than Echler
or Justin Jefferson, Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey.
That's literally it.
Not Chevy. He's just been incredible.
This is also the every time
you look up award. There's
someone that has this every year. Every time you look up,
Echler's ripping off like a 50-yard
touchdown. I swear to God. And I was going up
against him in a championship and it was just so depressing
because he absolutely destroyed me.
He's also been tough on Herbert managers
because in the red zone, like
it is Echler City. They do not.
They run the ball a lot inside the five with Echler.
Despite their best efforts,
they have failed to find anybody even remotely worth giving the football to besides Echler.
Like the other running backs on this team are just so bad.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah, Echler had 122 rushing yards in this game.
Do you know how many carries he have?
Eight.
11.
10 carries for 122 yards.
Yeah, sounds about right.
But no.
And I have to say, Echler has a little bit of the Jalen Hertz.
He's actually just gotten better every season.
Like, just like small improvements.
Like, even if his number, some of his numbers are better than last year, some of his numbers are worse.
He's a better player.
He's incredible.
I don't know, Eklare is incredible.
He's invested in fantasy.
Like, he does the fantasy podcast.
Yeah.
He's, like, really aware of, like, how much people depend on him in fantasy.
I think that matters.
I think that's a big deal.
He knows.
He knows we're all, like, counting on him.
I respect that.
That he's, like, kind of taken us.
Like, he's finally, like, trying to merge the two.
Yeah, he's the ambassador for the NFL.
he's going to be like the first player to like
Twitch stream the game from his helmet live
Should we
Should we make that a badge
A next year's draft guide for like some guys like Miles Sanders
Who it's just you can cover over and be like hates you
Hate your fantasy players
And that it's like Austin Eccler loves you
The care's metric I actually really like this
Because you could we could go and like find all the tweets of like them
Just telling people to shut the fuck up in their mentions and stuff
I wonder if Ackler is a fan of PPR
Oh, 100%
Obviously.
There's 100 catches this year.
I will go ahead and guarantee you
that Austin Ekler does not play in a standard.
Like, no.
But do you think the PPR format is like
too, you know, advantageous for...
I actually, I'll say this.
If we get to talk to Austin Echler in 2023
and he admits PPR is dumb,
will you guys concede?
If Austin fucking Echler is like, yeah, this is dumb.
I think it's dumb.
I just like half.
I think half is dumb.
How about this?
I just like PPR, and that's my opinion.
and I'm going to go, I'm going to stick with that.
I enjoy it.
It's okay.
Half PPR is fine.
Half PPR is fine.
Standard is stupid.
That's my opinion.
You'll never get me to enjoy standard.
Half PPR is fine.
It's perfectly acceptable.
You can enjoy dumb things, D.K.
It's all right.
We play fantasy.
I mean, so I mean, obviously.
Dude, there's a lot of fucking terrible TV out there that people enjoy.
I just couldn't believe D.K. was bad.
The Seahawks literally were like going to be out of the playoffs if they
lost that game. They're up 20 to 6. This is a fantasy
what's going on. Podcast.
Hyfitz.
Our text messages aren't. You were mad.
Well, I was mad because
D.K. Metcalf was getting skunked. I think that's fair.
I think that's fair, too.
Yeah. I wasn't mad the Seahawks
were losing. I thought Gino Smith played well.
D.K. Metcath just got absolutely
dominated by Soss Carter. Look, money's on the line.
Hifitz, all right.
Speaking of the Jets, I think
what it,
it, I mean,
it's a little contrarian to be like
this is probably a good thing for the Jets.
You could argue that.
But, like, I mean, they basically end the season
of five-game losing streak.
They literally are eliminated by Gino Smith,
who's the only good quarterback that they've drafted
in the last, you know, 12 years.
Revenge is a dish special of coal.
It'd be even funnier now that Gino is a free agent next year
if the Jets fucking signed him.
Well, the funniest thing is that they,
and Sam Darnold's out there.
And it's like, oh, oh, well, how credible is that?
So I just think overall the Jets, I mean,
This makes me hopeful for Zach Wilson's next team.
Let's not get out of hand here.
Was the last play of the game...
DK, tell me from wrong,
I think the last play of the Jets Seahawks game
was literally like the Jets were trying to run
some bizarre circus Hail Mary thing.
And Mike White just got creamed.
And he's like, like, Big Falls like on the ground,
just absolutely in pain.
And some Seahawks defense attack
who picks up the ball and he's like 300 pounds
and he was just like barreling to the end zone.
And it was just this wide panshon of,
Mike White, writhing as this guy runs,
and I'm like, yeah, I think this team officially
is going to need a quarterback in the off season.
It was like, if there's any doubt.
There has been some incredible shots from games this year.
Remind me, there was one early in the season
where a guy was literally, like, diving into the end zone,
like doing a front flip into the end zone.
And in the foreground, yeah, in the foreground of the shot,
it was like Andy Dalton being so sad.
It was just like the most incredible shot.
And then there was one from this week where Kurt Cousins got thrown out of the club on the pick six, like right in front of the guy who scored.
Do you guys remember this?
He just thought absolutely shoved into the end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he was getting stuffed into a locker.
There's been some incredible, just like, just the imagery of that is great.
So yeah, RIP to the Jets.
I actually think they should keep Robert Sol as the head coach.
I'm curious who you think, D.K.
I think they should absolutely keep solid.
Joe Douglas and just give them another shot.
I agree.
I'm pretty agnostic.
about it. I don't have a strong opinion
either way. I don't think he's done like an amazing job.
It definitely
helps that their defense was the strength
of the team in terms of solid's job security
because that's like his thing.
But
I don't know.
It's, yeah, it's been tough.
Any quarterback, or sorry,
any coach is going to struggle
when they have the quarterback situation that they have.
They've been rotating Joe Flacco.
You know, Zach Wilson's been absolutely atrocious.
Mike White came
back.
And, you know, obviously, he was good early on.
His, I think his rib injury probably still affecting him, but he was terrible in this
game.
It's like, it's just very hard to win in the NFL when you have shitty quarterback play.
So, yeah.
I'm pretty agnostic about Sala in terms of next year.
He punted on fourth and two down 14, the fourth quarter.
People are mad about, I think we're going to stake.
That's a solid bad.
He's a really good job.
All right.
Speaking of coaches, though, dude, can we do the, I have the worst fucking attorneys.
I love that.
For the, the, the, the, the, the,
Ron Rivera benching Wentz
and then the whole press conference thing, DK.
So this was tough.
I go back and forth on how big of a deal it is.
At the end of the day,
so here's the context.
Ron Rivera did not realize
that the commanders could be mathematically eliminated
from playoff contention on Sunday.
Can we play the clip?
Yeah.
Basically, he's asked if there was going to be any consideration
for playing Sam Howell next week
if they get eliminated.
And he was like, wait, we can get eliminated.
To clarify, you said you would talk about quarterback next week.
If you guys are eliminated today by what happens at 4 o'clock,
is Sam Howling consideration?
We can be eliminated?
Yeah, if the Packers beat the Vikings, then you guys are eliminated.
I think the last seven days are grounds.
How Rivera has coached this team the last seven days,
everything he's done, his decision, making his grounds from firing him.
I think that's fair, like the whole body of the world.
I don't think him not know.
Like, ultimately, look, I think personally,
he thought that Carson Wentz gave him the best chance.
to win. So that's why he started Carson Wentz. He wasn't like, oh, we can like punt this week,
whatever. That's not how he was operating. He thought Wentz would give them the best chance to win.
I disagree with that. Craig, I know you just, I think you disagree with that choice. The fact that
he didn't know that could be eliminated is like that something a head coach should know, I think,
but it's not a fireball. But like everything together, maybe. Yeah, also, I misspoke. I said he benched
what he did was he benched Taylor Heineke and he started Carson Wentz. And on one hand, obviously,
Taylor Heineke kind of became like a rally point for the team's comeback.
He gave them some energy.
He beat the undefeated Eagles.
He embodies the grit of your team, not to mention that straight up statistically,
he's just been better than Carson Wentz.
He has a two to one interception ratio, unlike Carson Wentz, who has thrown nine in six games.
I don't understand.
This makes no sense.
There is no quarterback in the NFL, I think, more associated with absolutely just crumbling
in the face of pressure.
like absolutely just
sucking when things are like
the most important.
I think
to be fair,
Taylor Heineke had been like extreme
the offense had been really bad
within the last few weeks.
And they were 02 and one
and three.
Previous games.
Yeah, but they were five and one with Heineke.
That's the thing.
You know what they were with Wentz?
One in five.
Well, that's the thing.
Watching Wentz,
that's the only thing I'll say about it
is Heineke had been struggling.
But when your other options,
Wentz, one,
we were joking about it,
but it's true,
where it's like,
he's not an inspiring.
choice for fans or alike.
But I have to say the first throw the game,
but the reporting, the reporters of the game,
the first throw of the game, Carson
went through, was high, and
fans started booing him.
After the first throw of the game, never a good time.
His second throw of the game was
a pick, and then fans
started shanning for Taylor Hine.
Two throws into the game.
I'm just going to say this, because I feel like
people get mad when
fantasy folks are like
bitching about one thing or the other when
when teams are making decisions based on
how it's going to affect our lives and fantasy.
I think there's something there
when we knew that Wentz was going to be the starter,
we immediately start worrying heavily
about their best receiver in Terry McLaren,
their second best receiver in Johan Dotson,
and then talking up Curtis Samuel,
whose A-DOT is like zero.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's something there.
This wasn't a sound decision.
Like Taylor Heineke gives his team more of a chance to win
because he gives the ball to his best players.
You know what I mean?
Like, I think there's, like, there's not,
it's not black and white.
Like, fantasy people, I think,
can have a good beat on, like,
in terms of, like, what's best for the team sometimes.
D.K., you've been saying this all year.
Know who your best players are.
That should be the role of a coach.
Give the fucking ball to your best players.
Yes.
That's Taylor Heineke.
I really, it's so funny,
not to, like, dwell on this,
but Ron Rivera not knowing the elimination thing.
I will just, again,
to be charitable for a moment.
On one hand, it doesn't totally matter, right?
because they need a win instead of lose.
It doesn't totally matter.
It's like, you know, there is some truth to like the being 1 and O every week
and just focusing, having said that.
It is like the entirety of your job, isn't it?
It's kind of incredible.
I think it's more, honestly, more interesting to me.
How can you actually build like a staff and an organization where no one puts that on
your desk?
Like, that's my real question is it's not actually, in my opinion, Ron Rivera's job.
He doesn't have to be like sorting for like the New York Times playoff regime,
but it's like, did he go to the whole?
Like, you know, that someone has, how, is no one handing it to him?
Or like, did he not read it?
Did he not remember?
Because it's kind of incredible.
And I, again, it's very easy to say this.
You know what Brian Dable handled that shit this week?
Brian Dable's his first speech to the team, they literally go there.
I don't know if they had a day off, but Monday or Tuesday, whatever the first practice was for the cults.
It's like five days.
Giants?
He says, yes, the Giants when they were playing the cults.
The first thing Brian Dable says, to open the meeting is like, all right, let's get the elephant in the room by the way.
You guys know what happens if they win?
If we win this week and everyone's,
He's like, no, it's like, okay, yeah.
So everyone knows.
We beat the Colts this week.
We're in the playoffs.
Everyone got that.
And everyone, he's like, affirmatively.
Everyone has to say yes.
He's like, all right, cool.
Let's, now that that's out, let's just focus on the game plan.
And he just went and just set it and moved on.
And it's like incredible to juxtaposition of like the coach for Washington didn't know.
But maybe Dan Sletter wants to sell the team.
So I don't think he is the bandwidth to be firing Ron Vera right now.
I guess like if you're defending Rivera, I kind of get it like, it doesn't, like he's not
coaching under the idea like, oh,
if we lose.
Like,
he's coaching to win.
It doesn't really matter.
Like,
the alternatives don't really matter
if you lose
because he's coaching to win.
It's a really bad look.
The fact that it happens
in the post-game pressure
is a really bad look.
To hear your head coach go,
wait,
what?
To find out something from a reporter
is a bad look.
Seriously.
Yeah, that's bad.
Yes.
Yes,
yes, it is.
But you know what?
Maybe that's why
he's the right coach
of the Washington commanders.
They're a team of bad looks,
if you will.
The Washington Browns game,
stunningly,
no good looks
in the Washington,
Cleveland Brown games.
Okay, most important one of the whole episode,
which is that Russell Wilson finally has more touchdowns
than he has bathrooms in his house.
What is it?
What has it?
11 or 12.
Our long national nightmare is finally over.
It's more like daydream, I don't know, it was kind of funny.
But yeah, so Russell Wilson now officially has 13 passing touchdowns.
He had 12 bathrooms in the house.
And the Bronco season, if we had to rank fan bases who are most upset after this year,
Broncos number one?
Yeah, because of the pick situation.
It's not even after.
season. I actually, but it's not
Broncos fans after the season.
I think Broncos fans have been the most
upset literally since week two.
Do you guys, the most stunning part of the whole Russell Wilson thing,
all the numbers, all the Tim Tebow
Broncos being a better offense, like all,
the draft pick being, you know, that they're
sending Seattle being however high, of all the things.
The most incredible thing of the
whole Russell Wilson saga
was he was getting booed
at home in week two and his own
fans were counting down the
snap, the play clock to the home.
team in September.
Which I've never seen.
That's foreshadowing, if you will.
So you're right, Craig.
I think the Broncos fans are, but it's not like,
I can't actually remember
home team counting on for its own.
In high school basketball, I've never seen that.
Never mind, like.
Passive aggressive. It was like sarcasm.
Yeah.
There is no greater chasm between
expectation and reality for what
happened to the Denver Broncos this year.
I think maybe an NFL history.
I actually, you know what,
now that you say that, Craig,
I'm going to send you guys, let me send you a little picture.
It doesn't matter.
I'll just describe it.
But basically, someone made a cool chart that's like,
it's just the expected points added for every unit on every team.
So it's like, it's just a line over the course of the season.
It's cumulative.
So it's offense, it's defense and special teams.
And it's just a chart so you can see where it goes.
So like, you know, the Vikings are very average.
It's funny.
All three lines are just the X axis.
And then like the Cowboys offense, it's like very small.
And you can tell us when Dak came back and it just shoots up.
The Broncos chart is a sizzling.
It is literally the defense
is just going completely
45 degree angle up
and the offense for the Broncos is going a 45
degree angle down. It looks like a gator chump.
It is the most funniest thing on the whole chart.
You can just see it. No other team in the league
looks like it and it's so nice
when a stat like that captures what you're seeing
with your eyes. Yeah.
Do you think he's ever going to say Broncos
country let's ride ever again?
I sure hope.
I didn't fix this a lot. If they started
6 and 0, I will say Russ is almost
like almost like underrated fantasy next year
because like if you could get him
in like the last route, I don't even know if he'll go drafted.
No. He starts running.
He actually was pretty good today
or Sunday in fantasy. So yeah.
He ran for a touchdown. Do you run for
two touchdowns or just one? I can't remember.
He ran for at least one touchdown, which is,
whoa, that's weird. Yeah, I think he's going to
make, I already saw this. He's number one
in the odds next year for comeback player
of the year.
But I don't understand.
What are you coming back from? Your 250 million
I'm trying to curse last.
I'm not going to say,
get out of here.
What is your adversity?
I agree.
That you like forced a trade
and made a quarter of a billion dollars.
You're so inseparable to your team got rid of you.
Yeah.
In all seriousness,
they need,
need to change the rules for comeback player of the year
and give it to Brian Robinson.
Because like he's not eligible because he's a rookie,
but like he got shot in August
and he actually was a good running back.
Yeah.
Like a month later.
Like he should just get it.
I don't know.
It's going to be Wilson.
It's going to be funny.
Oh, my God.
Who's it this year, Gino?
But that's the thing.
It's like, what does come back from?
I mean, though.
He's like the out of nowhere, guy.
But the NBA has the most improved player, right?
The NFL really needs that.
Hypatth, you essentially are saying
it should just be which player
came back from a devastating injury and succeeded.
I think that's usually how it works.
I've always thought of it.
Yeah.
Maybe that's like grotesque,
but maybe that's not.
I've always thought more like,
hey, Alex Smith, you're back.
You know what I mean?
That's kind of always how I thought about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, look, Gino.
I love Gino.
Chino wins.
So, yeah, and then the playoff race.
So we basically just have the last spot in each conference,
and then there's like some division title jockey.
Well, yeah, so in the NFC, it's basically everybody has clinched except for the seven seed.
That's going to come down to the Packers, Seahawks, and Lions.
Packers win next week over the Lions and they're in.
That's like the game, the playoff clinching game.
If they lose, the Seahawks can get in.
If they went, so sorry, Seahawks have to win and have the Packers lose.
And then the Lions can get in if they beat the Packers and the Seahawks lose.
So kind of complicated, but it's coming down to the Packers, Seahawks, and Lions.
In the AFC, the four seed is going to go to whoever wins the Jags versus Titans game.
There's a chance that the Jags can still get in at the wild card, even if they lose,
but it's like they have to have everybody else lose.
But the seven seed is coming down to the Patriots, Dolphins, and Steelers.
The Patriots need to beat the Bills and they're in.
That's a taller because the bills I think are going to be trying to get the number one seed.
The dolphins need to beat the Jets in order to get in and have the Pats lose the bills,
which, again, it's realistic, but the dolphins are going to be playing with Skyler Thompson.
Go check out his merch at his website.
That's going to be tough.
Like, he has not been good.
And so that leaves Craig's team.
The Steelers may be like the favorite to get in.
Not really, but like.
But like, kind of.
I mean, it's.
If the past loses the bills, if the dolphins lose to the jets with Skylar Thompson,
and the Steelers beat the Browns, they're in.
Right.
Craig, what did you think of Kenny Pickett who had, I mean, the two best moments of his career as a pro?
I mean, I was there at Christmas Eve.
He drives down and beats the Raiders.
And then the dealer friend seals it with a pick.
And then the same thing happens on Sunday football against the Ravens.
The biggest rivalry in the NFL, Kenny Biggitt just steps up and has, I mean,
they couldn't do anything for 50 minutes.
And then he comes down and he just does the thing.
Like, were you freaking out?
How'd you feel like Kenny Pickett now?
I thought Collinsworth actually nailed it by saying that was a Mahomes escrow.
It was.
I mean, that was one of the best things.
Shumbling to his left.
Yeah.
Threads that right to Najee in, you know, circumstances that couldn't have been more intense.
I don't know.
You know, I think he's doing a good job as a game manager.
I think he has flash plays.
And he's been really good at the end of games.
I think that is what you have to take away from all this.
His numbers are not going to blow you away.
And they're not asking him to do a whole lot.
What's really exciting about him is that when the game comes down to the wire,
He doesn't really look like a rookie.
He actually composes himself really well and it also seems like his teammates really like him.
Naji's talking him up.
The defense talks him up.
He actually seems just like a really likable guy who I think is kind of outperforming his physical skills right now,
which is like a really fantastic sign for what we all thought about him coming in.
I don't know if it's like he's the guy of the future, but like he's certainly warranted a full year of starting next year.
Yeah.
I think, yeah.
The metric by which I think you could match.
measure him right now. He feels like a guy you can win with. You know what I mean? He's not
necessarily going to be a superstar in the league. I mean, it's still certainly with like in his
range of outcomes. But I've been pretty impressed with him throughout the season. I don't think
his numbers are all that great. But just the like you said, like sort of the poise that he's
shown is pretty impressive for a rookie, especially considering like the offensive line hasn't
good. The run game hasn't really been that good. Well, it has this late. I mean, one thing you
have to give it up to is Tomlin and this team in general has really surged in the last. I mean,
they're six and two over the last eight games.
The defense has been spectacular
ever since T.J. Watt came back.
And they're running the ball well.
We have a section here
where we want to talk about players
who are kind of under the radar
been really good for the last half of the season.
Nagy Harris, for how much shit we gave him,
since week 11, he's been the eighth
best running back in fantasy.
He's averaging 15 points a game.
From where he started with the foot injury,
he looked like he was running in mud.
We were wondering if Jalen Warren
was maybe just as good as him.
The Steelers were losing.
This offensive line has been a lot better.
The defense has been great.
So Pickett has been put in opportunities to succeed with the, I mean, they're scoring, they're winning, putting up 16, 17, 18 points a game.
But he's not losing the games. That's what's important.
It's a lot of these other quarterbacks will come in and throw that, like, crushing interception that Carson Wentz pick in the fourth.
Pickett's not doing that.
And again, the arc of the Steelers season is more so than, I guess the Cowboys with Trayvon Diggs and Michael Parsons, but the T.J. Wattmanke-Fittsacritz-Pitcher combo are the two best playmakers on defense in the league when they're healthy.
and like the arc of the season of their season is
they had the crazy win against the bagels week one
and they had Chubisky and Chubisky was horrible.
They play Kenny Pickett and Kenny Pickett's first career starts
against, I mean these defenses like the jets,
the Bills, the Buccaneers, the dolphins,
the Eagles out of the buy end of the Saints.
And like they go through that stretch
and they, you know, they started freaking two and six
this team. And then after the buy,
again, Kenny Pickett starts his career
thrown into the fire, wasn't getting all the first team reps
and just thrown half the top 10 defense
in the NFL was awful.
Since the buy, what are they?
There's six and two since the by week.
Tomlin.
Tomlin's so good.
He's the best.
Eight and eight right now,
and if they win,
still no losing seasons for Mike Thompson,
even through a rookie court.
That would be incredible.
Craig,
you mentioned, though,
that a bunch of players this season
that randomly were really good.
I do want to just shout out
someone we haven't hit up
in this episode so far.
Dude,
Jerich McKinnon.
Yeah.
Dude, he came out of nowhere.
He scored again.
Jared McKinnon has eight touchdown
since December.
This is who we wanted.
GEH to me.
This is why people were drafting C.E.A.
so high.
Yeah.
Derek McKinnon.
So last four games,
so it's basically since he,
you know,
Clyde went down basically,
or kind of the timing's not exactly,
but his last four weeks,
he had 29 fantasy points was the number one guy on the week.
30 fantasy points was number one of the week.
He had 11 and they had 20 this week in championship.
He is.
It's all in the receiving game too.
Yeah.
He's like the waiver wire winner of the year.
Yes, he is.
Absolutely.
And honestly, all the old running backs kind of did well too this week.
Honestly, it was a little weird.
Like age before beauty, oddly kind of won the championship round.
Diadre Swift had a good game.
I assumed no one DeAndre Swift made it.
But like Austin Echler and Christian McAfruh, top two, they're not young for running backs.
Rahim Moster, 30 years old, more than 20 points.
Jamal Williams, almost 28.
Jared McInnan is 30.
Corderole Patterson, 31.
This is crazy.
This is an average.
This is like the oldest guy's left.
This is going to be a huge aberration in terms of what we normally see.
But yeah, it's absolutely like, I feel this.
This is, it's crunch time.
This is where teams really rely on the guys that have experience.
Maybe that's playing into this.
But yeah, I think this is a historical aberration.
I can't wait to talk myself out of every single one of these guys
because they're seven months older next in July.
No, we have memento tattoos to not talk about age.
Speaking of age, though, D.K., you get the next award here.
Speaking of late season, league winners,
this is the quietest league winner of the year.
Devonte Smith, all of a sudden, over the last five weeks,
has absolutely exploded.
He's the wide receiver three in that stretch.
Guess who's the wide receiver one, Justin Jefferson?
Sorry for everyone at Justin Jefferson this week.
But yeah, Devonte Smith has come out of nowhere.
He's averaged 21.6 points per game in that stretch.
He did that with Gardner Minchua at quarterback, too.
He's just been amazing.
AJ Brown's been really good, too.
Yeah, very under-discussed Devonte Smith.
The entire year has just been like a very consistent number two guy on this team
that's actually been putting up numbers closer to a wide receiver one.
I haven't heard hardly anyone talking about Devonte Smith in the last month.
In the last five weeks, he's literally the wide receiver three.
I think it's not an accident that this has coincided with the Eagles getting injured.
And that's a struggle.
More competitive games.
Yeah, the Eagles before were just winning by so much so fast that they kind of weren't throwing.
And they have a quarterback now.
I mean, Jaylen Hertz is getting benched.
Well, yeah, and they have a quarterback now who's not running for 100 yards a game.
So it's like there's a little bit more ground to make up.
And so mention, again, Hurts, it helps when Jalen Hertz doesn't have to get benched in the fourth quarter
because they're up by 30 points, which kind of was an issue as well.
But no, it's...
So does this mean we're out on Devanti Smith next year?
It's an aberration.
It's a fluke.
No, he's incredible.
I'm still mad he's not a giant.
He does look amazing.
It's more than just the numbers.
He looks incredible.
He always makes these just like impossible looking catches.
It's getting smack around.
He is skinny.
You know what I think about a lot is that the giants basically got bamboozled and got
sandwiched where the Eagles got Devonte Smith.
The Cowboys got Michael Parsons and the Giants traded back to Cadarist Tony.
This is why you hate Canaris Tony so much.
At least they picked up another 10th.
Jerry's Tony had a touchdown this week.
No, he didn't.
Did he?
Oh, maybe not.
I think he just had like 70.
He was last week.
His last week.
Yeah.
Did he play?
Yeah, he played.
He had 70 yards this week.
He led the Chiefs in receiving yards.
Two games in a row, is that legal?
Putting up more points than Justin Jefferson.
I mean, in High Fitz's defense, he's probably going to get her in this next game.
Yes.
It's because Justin Jefferson also fake the hamstring injury and his celebration, and that's what happens.
That's the death now for anyone who does that.
Really?
Yeah.
Holy shit.
Well, on that note,
this is very important.
Fantasy Carmel.
The final burn book of the year.
There's an obvious pick you could just say,
like, should we base this off of
just who murdered you in the championship?
Because you could say Justice Jefferson or Trevor Lawrence.
Or are we kind of basing this off of
maybe the fantasy playoffs?
Because if that's the case,
there is a running back
who I think qualifies perhaps more than any other running back.
Do you guys have the same person,
or do you have somebody in mind?
Who do you have?
Miles Sanders.
Wow.
Miles Sanders in the week's 15, 16, and 17 this year has scored 1, 5, and 6.
I think that's the right answer.
This guy was the top 10 guy all year, like legitimately.
Miles Sanders was the running back 8 heading into the fantasy playoffs.
The 8th best running back in the league and then puts up 12 points combined in your fantasy playoffs.
This is a event.
He's doing it because he hates you personally.
Well, no, did we ever figure out the splits on Miles Sanders' Dome and non-Dome games?
If you know what I'm saying.
Oh, you're talking about, oh.
Said DMs that leaked on TikTok?
At first I was like, wait, Dallas plays in a dome.
And then I was like, oh, I know what he's doing.
Oh, I don't know this story.
Just saying.
At lighten the people that don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, I don't think I know this.
Enlighten the people that don't know this.
I live close enough to Canada to know this.
Us young ins refer to blow jobs as dome.
Oh, getting dumb.
Yeah.
Okay.
Getting brains, if you will.
I don't think that's right.
That's, definitely.
That's, that's older.
A social media.
Jesse says, ding.
Influencer,
release some DMs with Miles Sanders.
Ah, okay.
Discussing certain acts.
Activities.
And so we were trying to look up the splits of, you know,
his performances within the dome games.
I think this is ringing a bell.
maybe we did talk about this, but yeah.
Miles Sanders.
Do we agree?
Is he in the book?
I mean, 12 points in three weeks.
No, that's a really good one.
All right.
That's the last one of the year.
All right.
I think it was a tough year for the burn book.
A lot of these guys kind of like
a long season, Craig.
Long season.
It's hard to burn people.
CalPetz was fine, though.
He stayed there.
Hamakers is like a top five running back.
Yeah, what are we doing?
Do you guys want to know the top running back since December?
Because it's like Christian McCaffrey,
Jerich McKinnon,
Eckler, and then like,
Khamackack.
Wait, I want to run through all of our burn guys
and note all the players who we kind of like screwed up on.
Camakers, please.
I guess it's fully back.
Number one.
In our defense, he literally wanted to retire
while the Rams were the worst offense.
I don't feel the need to apologize for Camer.
He like leads the league in rushing last three weeks.
Week two, Colt, Darnel Mooney, that paid off.
Week three, Baker?
Yeah.
It's in the same case.
It's in the Camakers category.
It's like, yeah.
Week four.
Baker won a Heisman.
trophy and then said that him like
beating the Raiders on two days notice was the
most rewarding and surprising thing of his career.
So, week four, Kyle Pitts.
That one held true.
Yeah.
Week five, Alan Robinson, we started great.
Our first five, other than Cam Acres is really good.
Rams, Rams, Rams, okay.
Then we kind of start to falter.
Week six, DJ Moore and Elijah Moore,
DJ Moore is kind of back.
I think that was right.
No, as soon as Donald came back is when he fixed it.
Yeah.
And we talked about that.
Week seven, AJ Dylan.
AJ Dylan's been pretty solid last month.
Dylan, he's the walking cliche.
He is, I'm just going to call him the cliche from now on.
The longer the season gets, the colder it gets, the more power he gets.
He's harder to tackle when it's cold.
He's baby Derek Henry.
Yes.
Justin Herbert, he's been better once his receivers came back.
Who would have thought?
Week 10, we gave it to Russell Wilson, who, I mean, still qualifies very much so.
But, you know, he's been all right.
Kareem Hunt, great burn.
He's been nothing.
Alvin Camara has been pretty up and down.
I still think he's perfectly fine.
George Kittle, kind of fully back.
We just didn't see the Broner.
Mark Purdy thing coming.
Yeah.
George Kiddell's been
like the best
tight end of fantasy
since we burned him.
Week 14.
Take him out.
It's like the Giants
photo on the boat.
But the opposite.
Week 14, Mike Evans.
You know what?
I think him putting up 47 points
this week is actually
qualifies him more for the bird book.
Him being in the burn book
makes me feel better
about him being on my bench
getting 48 points.
Yes.
It's insulting that he did it at the end.
Yes.
Week 15 we give it to Mark Andrews
who like randomly had 100
yards yesterday.
But other than that, he's been terrible.
And then week 16, we gave it to the weather, which I stand by.
Kind of a cop-out, but that's fine.
Now, Miles Sanders.
Yeah.
There's your burn book for 2022, or I guess now 2022, 2023, whatever.
I like how it's been, we've been doing the burn book now for, I don't know, two or three
years.
And we still don't really know how to define what the burn book is.
I just like the vibes of it.
It's people who've wronged us.
Yeah.
It's just people that we don't want to have to think about again.
Get them out of our lives.
It's like an anti-yearbook.
It's like a bizarre yearbook.
You don't want to see anybody in there.
Yeah, exactly.
You look back with regret.
All right.
So rest of this week,
we're going to do the fantasy rewatchables
next week when the whole season concludes.
So this week we're coming,
the NFL draft show on Thursday, right, Craig?
Yeah.
And then we're going to have fantasy rewashedibles for you next week,
and then we're in playoffs.
So more NFL draft show.
If you have to check that out,
please check it out.
It's really fun.
It's a really good time.
Please check out.
It is on our feed.
Let's make that clear.
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If you hit follow or subscribe or whatever right now with this feed,
then you're going to keep getting us in the draft show.
It's really fun.
So it's us.
It's so luck.
We have a great time.
So that's all we got for today.
We hope you won.
If you did win,
emails to ringer fantasy football at gmail.com.
If you did have winnings,
a lot of people email us and like some people want to thank us,
whatever.
I do recommend, we can post this on Twitter,
but there's actually a list of all the player charities
and their preferred charities.
If you have Austin Eckler,
if you have any of the players that you want to
particularly thank any portion of your winnings.
You can split.
I'll post the Twitter, the link on Twitter, and just like 100 players and all the charities
that they prefer.
And if you have like Justin Jefferson or Mike Evans, you could actually invoice them if you
want.
Sure, they really love that.
Their money.
Yeah.
Didn't Justin Jefferson?
He's off social media.
Good thing he is.
Too many of that number requests.
Also, wait, if anybody has that lineup that I read out to start the show, please.
Be amazing.
To be clear.
Craig in our Dynasty League had almost that exact lineup.
He had, there's 10 guys in our starting lineup.
This is the Superflex.
One player.
Craig, mind, Craig is in the championship.
He was the second best team all season.
I was the favorite heading into this week.
I scored the most last week with this team.
That's the thing, yeah.
He has 10 starters.
One player over double digits.
One player.
It's like if you tried to do that, it's actually hard.
I know, it's like mathematically awesome.
It's difficult.
It's like winning the lottery.
Essentially what I read where it was like the last three weeks,
that lineup average 1.50.
And this week they scored 37.
That like literally all pretty much happened to me.
Unbelievable.
You can invoice people.
All right.
But in all seriousness,
thank you to everyone for listening us through the season.
This is a lot of fun.
I hope that you guys have enjoyed the season.
I hope that you guys won.
If you didn't, I hope you had a good time.
Really appreciate it.
Email us to ring your fantasy football at gmail.com.
If you want to let us know you won.
Yell at us if you lost, commiserate, whatever.
Thank you.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, D.K.
Thank you, Craig.
Thank you to Jesse for production help.
Thank you, Lord.
Lord.
I'm going to shout to Mariah Carey.
Thank you, Mariah.
Fantasy.
The Queen of Christmas.
We want that fantasy song.
We're still waiting.
Get in touch with our people.
I was really excited this year.
I woke up on Christmas morning thinking maybe.
She'd give us the rights to the song, Fantasy.
But no.
Another year.
Another year without fantasy.
Barbara Walters passed,
and I saw some clip going around at Barber.
Walters interviewing Mariah Carey.
Oh, I saw that.
That was really funny.
It was funny.
I don't know who the, do you know who she had beef with?
I actually don't know.
It's actually, it's me who she has beef with.
Oh, it was Nikki Minaj.
Oh.
I feel like they're not in the same kind of category,
relevance-wise.
I'm just in different eras a bit, you know?
Mariah Carey was like a 90s star,
and Nikki Minaj was just like killing it in 2010.
Well, Mariah Carey just does, I mean,
Have you seen the memes of her
when her Christmas songs
start going up the charts
after Thanksgiving every day?
Like every Black Friday,
just like you could just start
to see her numbers quite.
For the last,
I think four years in a row,
all I want for Christmas
has been number one of the charts
at one point in the year
for four straight years.
Yeah, it'll probably just be that way.
Forever.
Craig, I've been thinking so much
about what you said
about why is there no just great
like electronic Christmas album.
We had people.
People sent us stuff for that.
I listened to some of them though.
They don't,
They don't really connect.
They don't hit that hard.
Somebody can do it.
You know, I wish Avici was still around.
Rest in peace, because he would have nailed it.
You're so right, where even if it wasn't good,
I don't know why Calvin Harris or someone hasn't just tried.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's like odd.
We got one year.
Figure it out.
Mystery.
All right.
Goodbye, everyone.
