The Ringer NFL Show - Coolest Players in the 2026 Draft, an Eagles–A.J. Brown Theory, Zachariah Branch Thirst Trap, and Seaman the Dog

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

The guys kick things off with some league chaos—an early kickoff twist, international travel weirdness, and a sneaky “bring your best friend to work” signing that might actually matter. Then it���s time for the Cool Guy Draft. The Dannys run through the most electric prospects, including a do-it-all superstar back and beyond. (00:00) Intro (01:16) NFL season kicks off (04:59) The coolest players in the draft (05:37) RB Jeremiyah Love, Notre Dame (13:02) RB Jonah Coleman, Washington (16:45) WR Zachariah Branch, Georgia/USC (23:15) WR Germie Bernard, Alabama (28:56) WR KC Concepcion, Texas A&M (32:24) OG Vega Ioane, Penn State (34:58) OT Kadyn Proctor, Alabama (37:16) Edge Gabe Jacas, Illinois (40:27) LBs Sonny Styles and Arvell Reese, Ohio State (42:20) LB Jacob Rodriguez, Texas Tech (45:24) Cornerback Corner (56:52) Emails Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Vote for Tyler Taniguchi: https://nurse.org/articles/mariners-nurse-night/#nom Check out The Ringer’s 2026 NFL Draft Guide: https://theringer.com/nfl-draft/2026/big-board#content Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Austin Gayle, Abou Kamara, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer NFL Draft Show. My name is Danny Hyattford. I'm joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Rolbeck. And today we're going over the coolest players in the draft. So cool. Damn, these guys are cool. Craig, can you explain the Salty Spatoon? It's like SpongeBob has the Salterst Baton for toughness,

but this is kind of like that for coolness. It's the cool corral. I don't know what it's called. But yeah, only the cool guys are in this club, right, D.K.? Totally. I totally know what you're talking about. The thing, my reference, my generation, is if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.

That was what came to my mind for this. So these guys are cooler than pee in your pants. So we're just going to go through a bunch of Miles Davis's. Yeah, we're just going to go through the cool players that honestly, if you're like, I don't want to know anything about the draft, whatever I'll deal with it later. But we're like, these guys are sick. And you should know these guys.

Yeah, if you're despairing currently about this being a boring draft class, today is for you. So these guys are fun. A couple things in news that want to hit before we go into this. So the Schaefter posted, and the NFL really posted through Schaefter that the NFL season, the kickoff is going to be weird. They're going to do it on Wednesday night instead of Thursday night. So the Seahawks, the defending champions are going to play on Wednesday night.

And then Thursday night in Australia, which is Australian Thursday morning, the Rams and 49ers will play. So we'll have a Wednesday and a Thursday game. It'll be Friday morning for Australia, not Thursday. Oh, right. That's a good point. The game will tip off at, I believe, 10.30 or 11.30, I don't know the daylight savings, but 1030 or 1130 a.m. on Friday in Australia will be 8.30 Eastern for America.

So we can get to the Wednesday thing. On Thursday. It's very hard. It's very weird. Wednesday thing has happened before. They did it like 12 years ago. They did it in 2012 when there was a Democratic National Convention the next day and Obama was going to speak. So they moved the game up. It was Giants Cowboys. And so that's not as crazy to me. It's kind of like, All right, Wednesday, they're getting a little greedy with the amount of games. No, no, they're not getting greedy. But I kind of will be honest.

I actually like Wednesday, Thursday better than Thursday Friday. Watch them do Thursday. Watch them have a Friday game too. Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I think I agree with that. I think I agree with that. Probably better. I don't like that Chiefs Chargers starts on a Friday night.

And I'm like the first Friday of the end of, which was still summer at that point. But I will say for the Rams going all in, I think it's weird that they're starting this season where they're going all in to win a Super Bowl and their whole. home stadium in Los Angeles next year, Stafford's 38, and it's like, you have a long run with McVeigh, but this team is like the co-favorits in Seattle. I think it's weird that the Rams are starting this season in Australia. Like, that sucks for them. This is a lot of travel. Yes. And I know they have three days, but like that's a long trip. Like, no one's tried this before. Like it's, what is it? Like, it's a 20, how long is the flight, like 20 hours of flying?

If it was private direct. Well, from L.A., yeah, I think it's like 17 hours from L.A. It's just a weird way to start. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it doesn't matter. They're like, actually, we don't want to do this because we're trying to win a Super Bowl this year. Can people say that? I feel like they don't know. But they probably had agreed to it. Anyway, it's just.

Did you see our moves over the off season? Raj? Yeah. I'll admit the NFL is getting a little weird with it. But if there's no Friday game, I'll take it. If they're doing a Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday thing in week one, I'm fine with it. It's where it's during the, you know, holidays. It's during the holidays.

I'm trying to spend time with my loved ones. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Yeah, I'm like, Jesus Christ. Can you just give us one day to not do something? seven nights of games in nine days over Christmas. The Christmas fantasy championships are bad. Like you're trying to be with your family. We got the day before,

we have Thanksgiving Eve now, which is a new holiday, I guess. Yeah. Give you a break. The Eagles signed Elijah Moore, the receiver. This is not usually big enough news that it would matter for me to talk about Elijah Moore signing with the Eagles.

But I think it's notable because Elijah Moore is like A.J. Brown's best friend in the entire world on like a very deep level. And it's just like when the buck signed Janus's brother. Yes, it really is. And I don't know, this is the kind of thing that would be a smart thing for Howie Roseman to do, whether they want to trade A.G. Brown or not, because it certainly makes it look like they're going to keep A.G. Brown. I do think this makes A.J. Brown more amenable for the season. He's like, I just, I just, I'm not doing it unless my pals are there. I, I, yeah. So, you know what? It's probably smart. So should I, should I bet on a prediction market that A.J. Brown now will, we're not. remain on the Eagles because Elijah Moore is there. Is that what you're saying?

Or that if AJ Brock gets traded, Elijah Moore will be cut. Oh, okay. Yeah, there we go. Don't need you anymore. Let's put them in the deal. Okay, with that said, let's get to the coolest players in the draft. This list is mostly made, like, this is mostly a list of players that Danny Kelly is like, I think these guys are cool.

It's a subjective coolness by D.K. I agree with almost all of them. But, Craig, I'll let you drive here. And I think, uh, yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to go through this list. I'll decide if these guys are cool or not. I'll be the judge of that. I'll be the judge of that.

All right. D.K., you made this list of guys you think are very cool. The first one here is Mahomes or Joe Burrow, who's cool? I saw Mahomes working out. Look good out there with his knee brace on. Did he look cool? No. All right, we'll start with an easy one.

This is a layout that this is the most famous, one of the more famous players in the draft this year. Jeremiah Love the running back out of Notre Dame. objectively cool objectively cool why is he cool to you DK he's a freak he's the fastest kid alive have you ever seen him run

this guy does spin moves his spin moves have spin moves he loves spin moving there's more spin moves than his runs than I've ever seen than any other running back ever no but like to be serious

for a second he's extremely explosive he's extremely versatile he's a home run hitter he's big fast strong explosive he's everything you want at a running back it's like you know when you're growing up you want to be a running back because they carry the ball, they get to make all these cool moves,

like the Saquan jumping backwards over a guy. Everybody wants to do that shit. And Jeremiah Love is sort of that avatar that we all can imagine we're going to be able to be that fast and, you know, explosive and all that. So he's just a lot of fun to watch. He's going to be probably, it looks like a top 10 pick, maybe even top five pick. Well, that's what I want to get into. We basically talk about this every couple weeks.

I want to revisit it now because there's been a couple moves, right? Like the Saints got Travis A-chan. A-chan. E-T-N-A-chan. Don't forget. to call his brother A. Chan, too. Right. Trevor A. Chan, Travis A. Chan and Devon A. Chan. Very tricky. Do you think Trevor is going to go by just E.T.N.

Like, are they both? I think his brother made that move for him now. I don't know why. But his name, the pronunciation being changed makes me forget if he's Trevor or Travis. And I don't know why. For some reason, I... It's... Travis E. T.N. is in my head. But for some reason, it screws me. But anyway, E.T.N. H. is on the Saints. Now the Chiefs signed Ken Walker. The Saints have the eighth pick. The Chiefs have the ninth pick. So those two teams are eliminated.

So basically right now we have the Cardinals at three, you have the Titans at four, you have the Giants at five, you have the commanders at seven. We don't think the Cardinals are going to take him. I thought the Titans were. There's some reports that they're not going to take him at four. So we have Hyvitz's New York Football Giants at five and we have Washington at seven. DK, do you think he gets past that pick, seven? I think that is the over-under spot.

Because the next spot would be maybe Dallas at 12. but do you think he gets past Washington at 7? Probably not. I'm trying to remember because, yeah. I mean, the GM of the commanders, Adam Peters, knows firsthand what the value of an elite running back and a two-way running back guy that can do both passing game and running game stuff in CMC.

So, like, that could play a factor here. I don't know if that means that they'd be willing to pay up this high. They're also analytics guys, and it's like the Niners, maybe they felt they were one piece away. I don't know. They're basketball guys or whatever. Yeah. So I think that would be like what I'm circling right now is the commanders.

And they just decide this guy is the best player on our board, whatever. But if he does get past him, even if like a guy like Sunny Stiles is there, if one of these past rushers, David Bailey or Ruben Bain happens to fall Arvel Reese. God, the sky is falling. Arvel Reese, they posted a video of him running some bag drills that is pro day today. maybe he's going to fall into past people are, I'm losing my mind. We're in phase two, baby. Phase two.

These pro day reactions are going to fucking kill me. People, they're running around. Do you want me to do my rant again? They're fucking running around in shorts and a shirt with no defense. They're playing catch. They're literally exercising. Those are drills.

They're fucking exercising. The video of Arvill Reese running around that, that inflates. pin or whatever the fuck you call that. That is like something that people do on like the TV show wipeout. Like people do that in PE. You know what I mean? Like we can settle down if he looks slow doing something that you don't actually have to

fucking do in the NFL. Oh my God. It's fine. Have you ever seen him play football? Phase two, baby. There's no defense or offense in this case. Okay. Anyways, what way they're talking about?

Jeremy, I love. We can move on from him. I do think it's interesting that like it kind of feels like none of these teams are the right fit for him of the top seven. It's like, oh, the Giants, are they really going to take a run, do the Sequin thing again at the fifth pick? Washington does that really make sense from a front office perspective? Titans and Cardinals, maybe they're not there yet, and yet we think he's going in the top seven. I kind of like him in Washington. Hyvitz, I don't know if you want him at five. I think if the Giants take him a, I think Giants Titans, Washington, it's all the same argument.

You could make this case of, well, it's not really a good economic value to take a running back because the best running back in the NFL is going to get paid $20 million a year or $18, depending on account, and a receiver is going to make 50% or double that as much money. And so if they're elite, you're not getting as much surplus value, blah, blah, blah. But the moment your team, like when other teams do it, that's dumb. The moment your team takes cheer my love, you're like, shut up, nerds, like, this guy's sick, and you're going to have the best fucking time. And then he's going to be good immediately, and you're not going to give a shit.

And then three years later, your team might not be that much better. And then you'll be upset. but in the meantime, it's not like I was, I thought Sequin was a bad pick for the Giants. I had a great time watching the guy play football. You were devastated when he laughed. The human capacity. What the most beloved giants of the last decade.

Yeah, the human capacity for cognitive distance. It's like, oh, wow, look at this bad long-term financial move. Well, I'm going to have a great time. Also, I still think Tennessee should take him and might take him, but I think Washington is in a similar boat where I'm like, who, Jane and Daniels, we know. He's great. His rookie year was fantastic.

like one of the best quarterbacks in the league immediately. Right now he has a 30-year-old Terry McClorin, and that's it. There's no one else on this team. It's the same thing for all three players, which is for all three teams. Giants, Washington, Tennessee, I do think he goes one of their teams. It's for, it's within the context of you're trying to help a young quarterback establish themselves. As an elite guy, Jen Daniels getting back to rookie year, Cam Ward and Jackson Dart building on what they did last year.

Within that context, it's about giving them an explosive player and you're kind of bootstrapping them on the way to get, once you have franchise quarterback, who cares? I will say in terms of Jeremiah Love, the reason teams would take him is, pick your comp, depending how old you are. I think there's shades of Reggie Bush and Darren McFadden before he got hurt. I think there's Jimere Gibbs. I think there's Christian McCaffrey with Jeremiah I Love. I think I kind of see Jeremiah Love.

People have said Jimir Gibbs. I think he plays a, Jeremiah Love plays a lot like Christian McCaffrey with the Reggie Bush aesthetics because he has the spins, like D.K. said, and Jeremiah Love's going to bring herdling back. He got the spins. He's got the spins, baby. He's got the spins. Jeremy Love's going to bring hurdling back.

Like the Reggie Bush hurdles, like Jeremiah Love jumps over people. He is crazy. He's amazing. And I think the reason I think Jeremy loves like McCaffrey is there were questions. And like Gibbs, oh, well, he's so good as a receiver. He's so good in space. Can he run between the tackles? Yes.

Like the most important play of Notre Dame season a couple years ago, the championship is against Penn State. And he basically breaks five tackles at the goal line alone just to get through and score a touchdown. Like, people wondered if McCaffrey could play between the tackles. Like, you know what I mean? We thought he was going to score 20 touchdowns one season. I think Jeremiah Love is the three down back.

He's that he is like that good. He's elite. Fantasy is going to be a first round pick. He's also so fucking cool. He does the heart celebration for love when he scores. That's going to go viral. The name, love, everything about it. I think he's very cool.

And I think whether the Giants, Titans, or commanders take him, I think that will be a good pick. And I'm willing to stand by that. Okay. Let's stay at running back. We haven't talked about pretty much any other running back in this class outside of Jeremiah Love. DK, one of your coolest players of the year

is Jonah Coleman, the running back out of Washington, 5-8-2-120 pounds. This guy's all core. He's like one giant torso. He's a thick boy. Yeah, he's, yeah, thick as a bowl of oatmeal or whatever. He is really fun to watch. Obviously, we haven't talked a lot about running backs,

and I think he's actually maybe in danger of going on day three. That's like kind of where we are with the running back class. There's day three. Yeah, so like fourth round, maybe. He could sneak into third round, but probably more likely, like, late third, early fourth. He's not, he's kind of the polar opposite of Jeremiah Love in a lot of ways, because he's not super explosive. He's not going to be like the home run hitting type of player. But he runs really low to the ground.

He reminds me of like a thicker version of Bucky Irving, where he's quicker than fast. He's got good vision to kind of sort through the mess of bodies in front of them and scoot through the opening in the line. He uses his blocks really well. He's patient. he's really good in the passing game he's a great pass protector he's just a football player that's kind of like the way I look at him

he's just a ball player only one fumble in his career I think only one drop in his career he's just he he's just the rolling ball of butcher knives thing is like so apt for him I was wondering if you're going to say that for him he just runs through guys

he tries to run through guys his faces he was his production was a lot or he was kind of like higher up on I think people's rankings in 2024. And then in 2025, this last year, things kind of fell apart towards the end of the season. He's fallen down lists, I think, or just kind of not really people's focus. But if you look at some of the numbers, like broken tackles, yards after contact, he grades out really well, according to PFF. And so this is a guy that I would love to get on late day two or early day three.

Why is he a fourth rounder? I think it's probably the speed thing. He's not super explosive. And in fact, he hasn't tested any of, at any point in this process. So that's kind of like a red flag. Too thick. Yeah.

He was kind of fat last year. Like you could just say, he was kind of fat. And then he got really ripped last year last off season. And honestly, before last off season, it looked like C.J. Anderson. Like, you remember when he came back? Who was awesome, by the way? Like who was great.

But. See J. Anderson, who basically like won a Super Bowl? Yes. Like, that's what he reminds me of him. He's like the least physically impressive, but he's a three down back who's not fast, but he can catch, he can run, he can win with power.

In a way, imagine if Cam Scataboo wasn't like such a Tasmanian devil. I am not saying he's as powerful. He's probably a little faster than Scataboo. He's kind of slow. And he's not as powerful as Scataboo running people over. But like. He's a sophisticated Cam Scataboo. Yeah, he's like Cam Scadaboo.

Yeah, exactly. The thinking man. He believes in CTE. He believes asthma is real. Right. Yeah, exactly. What if Kim Scadaboo thought asthma wasn't just being a bitch? As somebody who had asthma growing up, how dare you, Ken's going to tell you, I've never

cared less about any athlete's thoughts about the world. Can't add he's? Well, we're going to listen to the guy who runs into phone polls or whatever. The guy who used to want it to telephone polls. But yeah, I, I got to be honest, of all this list, he's okay. He's heartwarming. I don't know if he's cool. Oh, I think he's cool.

Just go watch some highlights of him and he's cool. Do you guys remember how good CJ Anderson was for the Broncos? Was that one season? Yeah. That was crazy. You remember him coming for the Rams? And then being like, I gamed a man pregnancy weight out of solidarity with my wife. And then he wanted, and then they like made a Super Bowl.

Okay. Next cool guy. Yeah. Zachariah Branch. Wide receiver. Low guy, 5-9, 177 pounds. Yeah. DK.

Why is this guy cool? College is Georgia. He is cool. I compton, by the way, to Maverick from Top Gun. He feels the need, the need for speed. Also, by the way, the way he runs, he either is, Tom Cruise. He's either hitting, yeah, like, you know the memes of like Tom

Cruz running extremely fast like through a, through like a parking garage or something? That's in collateral, right? That's him, but he also is like, he's a, he's a, he's a receiver in name. He is basically a gadget player. That's what he was in college. His A-DOT, his average death of a target

was something like five yards on average over his career in college. So he was getting a lot of screens, a lot of end-arounds, basically get the ball in his hands and let him create. And he did a lot of that. In fact, he led, I believe he led the SEC and catches last year. But it wasn't just a lot of screens. Half of his, half of his targets were behind the line of scrimmage. Right.

At Georgia. His A-DOT was five and a half career. At Georgia, it was less. It was three and a half a-dodd yards down feet. Exactly. That's 10 feet. So that is, that is the fear here. But first of all, the usage with Georgia was a little different than it was at USC.

I think there are flashes of where you see him running routes down the field. I don't think he's like a great route run or anything, but he obviously, he lacks size. He lacks catch radius, but he's big, strong. He's not big. He's short, not small. He's pretty thick, pretty strong, tough guy. And he, like, basically my whole thesis with this, and I know it's stupid, it's like the sirens. I know that I'm being stupid about this.

I know I shouldn't like him. I know I shouldn't want him on my team. Heart wants with the heart wants. But I fucking do. I want this guy on my team. And the reason is, because there's just 1% chance. Maybe he's just Tyree Kill.

And he's extremely explosive. Like he does have special speed. He has incredible maneuverability in terms of acceleration and deceleration. The reason I thought of the Maverick thing is like, there's so many times on tape where he's like, I hit the brakes and he just flies right by. You know what I mean? I don't know if you remember that scene from the movie.

But basically like, he's just so adjunct. agile and so smart with spatial awareness in terms of like beating guys in terms of like their angles or whatever pursuit angles. He is, I think at the very least, a special special teams player. Like he was a good returner early on in his career. And I don't know. To me, if like Wondell Robinson can have a thousand yards receiving in a season and then

fucking get a huge contract, like I'm willing to take a bet on Zachari branch. D.K., you're burying the lead here. This is cool players. you're jumping to the deficiencies because you're, you're ashamed to talk about all the cool parts. Zachariah Branch is like one of the most agile people I've ever seen in anything I've ever in my entire life. Like he was,

there we go. It's like the shortest of short lists like Tyree Kill, Tavon Austin, Lamar Jackson, like like he kind of reminds me of Percy Harvin, like a little smaller version of Percy Harvin. And I look back at Harvin's time, especially during his four years or three and a half years or whatever in Minnesota, his A dot with them, and this was like an all pro type player. And he was, you know, I think in the MVP conversation for a little bit for them. And his A dot was seven yards in that stretch.

I mean, he was basically a gadget player in a lot of ways. I mean, he was, you know, running out of the slot and catching, catch and run. He was being utilized as a running back in a lot of senses. I think Jeremiah Branch has that skill set. I don't think he's Percy Harvin. Percy Harvin was a special, special athlete. But I think Zachary Branch, I don't know, even though I know I, even though I know I shouldn't do this and I shouldn't believe it in him. It's probably stupid. He's going to make me look dumb.

I just think he's so fun. He's so fun to watch. So explosive. Let's do this. Put him on the Seahawks. Let's make some magic happen. He's a thirst trap. He's the ultimate go home to your wife. Like the flesh is weak. Like it's literally like you're like this guy sucks. He can't do anything. He's a gadget player. And then you turn it on and you're like this is actually like one of the most special athletes I've ever seen play. He was the number one recruit as a receiver in his class. He was the number seven overall. He was the number one player in the country. Five star went to USC. Like every time he touches the ball, like college football players at big programs, they have no idea to tackle them. Like the procedure angles are all wrong.

Like they've never seen anyone this fast. Or like agile. He could win the flag football game. The problem is he cannot catch. Like he cannot catch. He's not a receiver. He cannot. He's no hand-eye cord.

Like he cannot catch a football. He's 5-8. He's 177. He had like a 5% drop rate this year. Yeah. I don't know. Half his catches are behind the line of scrimmage. He's catching the ball.

He doesn't run routes. It's actually insane. Like Ham to Gilmore, he can't skate. Yeah, it literally is like that. It's literally like you can't skate. He can't do anything. But you ever touch my puck. It's, but then you watch and you're like, this guy sucks.

Obviously he'll never be an NFL player. And then you watch him and you're like, holy shit. It's kind of like if Tavon Austin's highlight reel didn't have any long catches. He was before his time. Tavon Austin has long catches on the highlight reel. Pull up a Zachariah Branch highlight reel. It's all just fucking screens that he then does not get touched and runs to the end of It's insane.

I know. Look, the heart wants with the heart wants, as Craig said. And I just want him on my team. I don't care. So, like, worst case, he's like Kavonte Turpin and returns punts. Yeah. Sure. That's like not the most confidence-inducing, but yes.

It's like sliding in Sidney's Sweeney's DMs. It's like, you have no shot, but you're like, man, what if? But, man, he's fun to watch. I got to tell you. Yeah, just like Sidney, I bet to you, too, you little freak. I'm the only one, Craig, that's looked at Sydney Sweeney's Instagram account, all right? I'm not even on Instagram.

Also, I got to say, I feel like Wandao Robinson is like officially the Black Sheep of the League. I feel like everyone just shit. He's like the new. Christian Kirk. I'm glad he got paid. He can all tell us to go fuck ourselves. I just feel like everyone despair.

Every bad comparison is like, if Wando Robinson could get a thousand yards, if Wondell Robinson gets paid 19 million. Catching strays. Yeah, we need a name for that because sometimes Tim Robinson meme where he's like, what the fuck? Sometimes we only acknowledge a number one receiver when they're like, well, if this is their best receiver and that's the only time we ever talk about the guy.

Well, Wandae Robinson was literally a running back in college. I think Zachary Branch should be running back. I think he should just be an offensive weapon or whatever you want to call it. All right, the next guy here, D.K., is this man's name Jeremy? Jeremy? Is it Jeremy or Jeremy? I think the idea is Jeremy.

Oh, really? No, he hyphids put in an extra syllable there. It's just Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Just say it quickly. For those at home, it's spelled G-E-R-M-I-E. I think it's Jeremy.

But it's Jeremy. No. It's Jeremy. Oh, Jeremy. Yeah. Not Jeremy. Jeremy. Oh, it's Jeremy?

We should just call him, Bernard. Can we get to Austin? Somebody looked this up. Let's show we're saying. No, it's Jeremy. It's Jeremy. It's Jeremy. You're adding a syllable every time.

I think it's two syllables. You're making it three syllables. D.K. saying it's two. It's like the name Jeremy without the middle syllable. There is no E in the middle. Jeremy. Exactly.

Jeremy. You're saying Jeremy. I, I, I, I, somebody is Jeremy on the Alabama. However, it is spelled like Jeremy. Austin says he's seeing germy. Yeah. That's how it's spelled.

If it was, it's always sunny, it would zoom out. And he would be like in the room with us just listening, waiting for us to talk to Anyway, Jeremy Bernard. I think Jeremy's the coolest name out of all of them. Jeremy Bernard is cool. It sounds like he's in the 1950s. I like that. It's going to go viral.

Okay, anyway, sorry, Jeremy Bernard. Go ahead. By the way, the team calls him Unk because he's got the leadership. It's a leader. Unk Bernard. I think Jeremy Bernard is like if Debo Samuel and Robert Woods had a baby. See, that is, to me, a great comp. Because calling him Debo Samuel is a bridge too far.

He's not that explosive. He ran the same. 40 yard dash and 10 yard split is deba, but there's no way he's as explosive or fast. I do think, however, and this was, when I was watching him, I kind of kept coming back to him. I'm like, man, this guy has really natural running talent. He could be a running back, I think.

But he's, he, because like the way he weaves through traffic, the way he lets blocks set up and then cuts off of them, sets up second level defenders, kind of, you know what I mean? He has that natural vision and talent as a runner, and then he can explode away and pursue angles and things like that. So he's really good after the catch. But he's also got strong hands. He blocks his ass off.

And he lines up everywhere in the offense. Like whether that's in the slot on the outside, in the backfield, sometimes in Wildcat. He's just a really fun place. Again, just another football player just does a little bit of everything for him. And yeah, I like the Debo Robert Woods kind of con. Because he's not quite, he's not as big as Debo. And he's more athletic and explosives than Robert Woods. He's 61-206.

He's not as powerful as Debo. And he's not as fast as DBO, and I'm not trying to argue he is. But he lines up everywhere. He literally can play X. He can play Y. He can play in the slot. He can literally, they line him up as a running back offset. They give him inline pitches like Travis Kelsey up the middle.

They give him outside zones as a running back. They let him play quarterback. They let him throw on trick plays. They let him take this. There was a play late in the game on third and ten in the late in the fourth quarter where the game was on the line. And they let him take a direct snap. And they let him basically have like an RPO or.

or like a quarterback keeper. Like, do you know how much a staff has to trust a receiver to let him handle a third and 10 with under three minutes left in opponent territory? Like, he literally can do anything. Like he's so, it's competency porn. It's like we joke about John Wick reloading. It's he can do everything.

He's probably the best blocking receiver in the class. I think he has some of the best hands in the class. He ran for more touchdowns than he had drops in college. He's probably the best guy catching along the sidelines in the, he's got a good awareness of the sidelines too. he gets his feet down, yeah. Yes, he has yards after the catch. He's not that fast, but yet he always is going.

He's like upfield yards after the catch. Like some fast guys will go like backwards or sideways, like Zay Flowers going around. He just gets up field. Like he does everything well. And so I know he always brings this up. He's like a switch everything. Like he's B plus at everything. And I think that there is no elite trait, but the elite trade is that he actually

can do everything as a B plus. So it's like the Robert Woods does everything little. But the Debo is like he actually can do every. He can get the ball in any manner. It's really cool. Yeah. He looks, I understand the Robert Woods comp mixed with Debo because you're right, he's really not that twitchy,

but he's just kind of big and fast enough and just like the momentum is always moving downfield. It's like if you convinced Robert Woods he was Debo Samuel. Right. And then he just did it. But I, yeah, I love Jeremy Burnett. So where do you think he's going to go, D.K., in the draft? That's a good question because the, I think,

opinions on him are pretty widely like they're anywhere from day two like early day two sort of second round area all the way to late day two early day three because what's the downside he's like Traylon Burks or something even though Traylon was just injured a lot right

yeah I kind of I think Berks is more athletic we can fix him I think he's a third round pick Jeremy Burner is a third round pick but I think it's because they want like crazy athletes in round one and then like valuable positions where there's like production but not crazy athleticism at pass rusher.

And then they're like, oh, we'll take some receivers here. But I think guys that without the athleticism fall the third round, but they're like guys who just know to play football. He's the classic example of a third round pick and then you're going to look past them

and you're like, oh my God, how did some of these guys go ahead of him? I love Jeremy. I want him. I want him on Steelers. He'd be a great stealer. Yeah. Number three guy behind Pittman and DK,

just a bunch of dogs. Kind of like that. I think, yeah. I think a lot of teams could use it. The Dolphins is a perfect example of a team that could use him. No, Steelers. Okay.

He doesn't make any sense for Miami, no way. All right, the next guy, the wide receiver. Casey Concepcion, D.K., this is a guy I know you're very high on out of A&M. Why is he cool? We should say he is six feet tall, 196 pounds. Almost seems a little smaller when you watch him to me. Yeah, he, well, I think that's because he's so sudden. The way he moves, he's very, very sudden, explosive.

And I think just if you're looking for a guy, to me who just pops when you watch him in terms of his suddenness, his smoothness, is getting out of breaks and running after the catch without hitching. So basically catching the football, not hitching and just smoothly transitioning to run after the catch.

I mean, that is him in a nutshell. He reminds me so much of Brandon Ayyuk when he was coming out of Arizona State, basically just like kind of a raw guy, a little bit raw as a route runner, maybe not like the most technical route runner, but you just saw the movement skills and the explosiveness and that translated to the league.

Obviously, Brandon Ayuk's in a weird spot now, but also Craig you'd like this. I was talking to Greg Rosenthal about it. He said he saw a little bit of Luther Burtain when he was watching Casey's Concepcion. And so I think it's just the suddenness, explosiveness. When he gets the ball on his hands, good things happen. He plays inside, outside. You know, and I think he's also a good Palmer Turner.

He's just the type of guy I think that's going to make a difference right away for a team. By the way, Casey Concepcion is a little bit misleading because Casey is just, it's like calling me D.K. Kelly. it's Casey is just Kevin Concepcion. But Concepcion's a sick day. Wait a second with Jason Concepcion here at the ringer. Concepcion's a great name. D.K., would he be a first rounder to you if his name was Kevin? That's a great question.

Kevin Concepcion. I think Kevin Concepcion is like the last take of the first round. Yeah, yeah. But Casey Concepcion might be like the 19th pick. Very high. Casey Concepcion, I mean, our friend Matt Harmon called him the best. separator in the class, and I agree. It's just like the Jeff Goldblum, like life finds a way.

Like, it just, I don't know how, but Concepcion is always creating huge plays, and that's all these coaches want. And I, I, you know, like, the phrase zero to 60. His zero to 60 is really fast, but it's probably, he can't really get to 60. It's just 50, but his zero to 50 is incredible. Like, he's the most explosive player that isn't that fast. His tops, like, Concepcion's top speeds fine, but he can get to it instantaneously, which Kind of all that matters.

Yeah, for sure. He's also got great body control. The way he goes up in traffic and catches the ball, and again, like, he transitions from catch to run so smoothly. I just love it. He's like, there's just no wasted movement with him. Do you want the ick, Craig, or no? About KC.

Yeah. Sure. The only ick is Ryan McChrystal had this at Sharp Football, which is from Sports Info Solutions. Casey Concepcion's catch rate over expectation would be the lowest for a first round receiver in six years since Jalen Rager. Ooh, a lot of drops. But I do think the drops are youth concentration.

I'm not focusing because I'm trying to make a huge play drop, not like I'm dealing with another defender and can't catch it with, which is actually easier to fix a guy. He's not concentrating, like just that's youth. I think it's a bigger problem for Quentin Johnson and can't catch a contested catch. So I actually think it's okay. D.K. has him as the third wide receiver on his big board. He has Carnell Tate, Mackay, Lemon,

and then Casey Concepcion is his number three guy in front of, Jordan Tyson and Denzel Boston and Omar Cooper. I like him. You stand by that? Okay. Yeah. Next guy here, we're going to move off of wide receiver. Vega Yawani is how you pronounce it, correct? Yeah, Yawane.

Yonne. I think. I can already hear Chris Berman. You want a piece of this? The guard out of Penn State. You can do a better Berman than that. Vega, you want a piece of this. I don't know.

That was a little Chris Hanson. DK, why do you like Ewan A, the guard out of Penn State? Why is he, tell me why a guard is cool. He makes being a guard look cool. It's like the old Will Smith thing. You know the difference between me and you? He is, first of all, he just kicks your ass. He's a big, strong, physical guy who is going to create movement online,

displace the line of scrimmage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the, here's the real deal. We're bearing the lead. He's me. He fed sent me a video where he was running, he would line up. in the slot and then he ran like a slice block and just annihilated a guy. Dude, he said this guy into the shadow realm.

They put a fucking guard in the slot just to hit a goddamn quarterback. I was like, I want that guy on my team. That's what I want. Dude, he's so mean. Like all these dudes. Like just, like, he people are just on the, we don't have a word.

We have a word for panicking when an offensive lineman knocks a defender to the ground. And I'm watching this guy and I was like, why don't we have a word for in the lineman knock the defenders to the ground? Is it a flapjack? Isn't it a fucking waffle? Like, what the fuck? Like everyone just, he just knocks everyone's ass over. He's so he's he's he's a badass

He's just there's so much shoving to the whistle He's always hitting people and it looks so hard Shaves a lot looks painful Like it's just sick All right so he's just he's just your favorite meanest shover in the draft Dude he hits you gotta watch here wait you got to watch him hit this fucking guy But he's also nice this video of him helping an equipment guy because it was like I guess on a road game Someone's tunnel was kind of uphill and the guy couldn't push this like giant back

of like the helmets up. And so he just hopped the fence and like starts pushing the guy. And the guy's like trying really hard. And then he is like one hand. It just starts helping him. That stuff goes a long way. Those videos, you got to help one guy out on camera and you're,

you coast off that for a year. Yeah, we got to stage that guy's next year. Craig, watch him, watch him hit the, watch him play out of the slot. Watch this play.

He's, oh, he's motioning across and he, oh, wow, he just, oh, he double.

He double pancaked him. It's fucking mean. Did he jump on him afterwards? He just like, Hit him to the ground, teased him, let him get up a little bit, and hit him again. Damn.

That's like asserting dominance over your little brother type shit. Yeah, it's great. You have him 11th on your big board. Okay. He's good. Next guy here. Caden Proctor, the tackle out of Alabama.

6-7-350, Craig. D. He can run like the wind blows. Can I tweak this, D.K.? Yeah, yeah. Left tackle for Alabama, 6-7-350. D.K. left out. He got five carries last year.

Yeah. Five years. He didn't even get into it yet. Maybe he was getting there. This is the exact same thing we did with Juane, which is basically like get him to football in space and he's going to fucking rush shop. People trying to tackle him. It looks like youth football.

It's like there's a famous video of Tyler Warren when he was in high school and he was five times bigger than everyone else. This is like what it's like when he gets the football on that, you know, in the SEC. And I remember he had a touchdown catch and run. Or maybe it was like a just a handoff or whatever, but he rumbled down the line. And there was like five guys trying to like bring him down. And he just kept going.

And then he like ran over a poor quarter at the very end and then went into the end zone. It was great. So this is why he's cool because he's a very large man. Absolute fucking unit. Look at the size of this lad. They lined up Proctor. They gave him a, it was a screen,

but against Georgia, like a real game. And then they ran a Wildcat direct snap in the goal line versus Missouri. Like the left. The starting left tackle at Alabama was put in the Wildcat and just took a snap and ran as a running back. They brought him as a fullback and then actually gave him the ball versus Vanderbilt.

And then they had to watch this video now too. Vanderbilt they had him as just an offset shotgun running back and they just handed him the ball. It's like you think it's cool and they give Pena Sewell like they throw the ball to him in midfield. Bama's just like actually gave him the balls a running back, a fullback. And they're motioning him into trips and throwing him a screen.

It is funny because I feel like every time I watch one of these, in my head, I'm like, oh, this is not going to work. He'll get knocked off his balance and fall down. And then they actually just topple through like five guys like their children. Yes. Like, maybe this should be more incorporated. This should be more common. Make them eligible receivers. Why keep the line to be eligible?

It's a lot of be eligible. Okay, D.K., do you have anything else on Caden Proctor? No, that's it. Okay. I don't think he's that good as a left tackle. but I do like when he gets the ball. The next guy here, I'm going to do my best,

Bert Reynolds from S&L Jeopardy impression and get this guy's name wrong on purpose. I'm going to go, Gabe Jackass. So you're happy Gilmore. Is that this guy's name? Jackass. That's the pen is mightier. No, it's A-S-A-S.

I got it wrong in the last one, too. That's definitely to get away from people saying jackass. This guy's name is, Gabe's last name is spelled J-A-C-A-S. When you watch him, the jackass music just starts playing in your head. It's like, hi, I'm Gabe, and this is jackass. And then he just absolutely fucking destroys someone. So it is Accus, it is a silent jackus. Accus.

I think they made it. I think they silenced the Jay. Was the Jay silent or was the Jay silenced? I don't know. Okay, Gabe Jackass, Jacket. You don't believe. I might have to change. You know who he reminds me of.

My comp for him is. sack lodge from wedding singer or sorry from wedding crashers you remember the scene where he hits Vince Vaughn when they're playing football and he's like yes sack lunch baby yum num num num num the way that he clobbers quarterbacks I feel bad for them legitimately any anytime he gets near a quarterback I'm like run hide like lay down pretend you're dead because he just absolutely takes over and clobbers people he looks like he's made out of cement um nature versus nurture Lodge. Nature always wins. He's just great. He's not very explosive.

He is not very bendy. He's just strong as hell. He also doesn't do any moves. He kind of just like runs at the tackle. Well, he's good with his hands. He's a two-time state champion wrestler. And so he understands leverage. He understands body control. He understands how to get under a guy's pads and lift them off their spot, essentially. He's like a sumo wrestler. You know what I mean? He just goes through a guy. And I think he does have some moves in terms of like clubs and hump moves and things like that where he's useful with his hands, but he's just not the most explosive or bending guy. So he has to win with that power.

But he's just fun to watch because, I mean, I'm not kidding. He had some of the hardest looking hits I've seen in my draft prep this year, just guys going down like a sack of potatoes. I mean, he's a runaway beer truck. He, Akis seems really motivated by like the pure violence of hitting another huge person. Yeah. And the reward is he gets to hit the quarterback. But he seems just as invested in hitting the tackle as he does as hitting the quarterback, which I can't really say I've seen.

Crapcakes and football. I'm trying to find this guy's name and this actor. I don't know who he is. Where is he? I can't find him. What round, D.K., like the shortcomings you described that Ackis has, where will he fall, you think? He probably falls into the second round because of all. Because of the lack of explosiveness, he's not quite, you know, that first round caliber.

but I do think he could sneak into the late first or probably somewhere in the second round. I don't, yeah, I don't think he also has the highest football awareness, but he does love hitting people. I love that. I mean, so he basically, he should be on the show Jackass. That kind of describes them, right? Not great awareness, but they love hitting people.

Yes. Okay, the next two guys, these are, we're almost just adding them as a formality, Sunny Stiles and Arvel Reese. Yeah, I don't know about this after the pro day, though. Maybe not. Was that a nick for you, D.K.? Did that move the needle?

We are in phase two, so. No, I just No, I'm 100% kidding. I think these guys are fucking cool. Maybe the two coolest players in the draft. It reminds me of the Bash brothers like Maguire and Konseko. Just two of the coolest teammates.

You just want that aesthetic. They're both like fucking explosive, big, fast guys that can do a little bit of everything. They're just awesome. I don't even have any analysis. They're just cool. I think Sunny Stiles and Arvill Reese both playing linebacker at Ohio State.

in college together. We will look back on, like Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, played receiver at LSU with Joe Burrow and, Caleb Downs, Arvo Reese and Sunny Stiles.

But the fact that Sunny Stiles and Arvel Reese were both at the same position, I actually think they might just both be Hall of Fame linebackers. God, that'd be wild. And I don't know

if we'll ever see two defenders quite that good play linebacker. Like, again, they remind me of the Breaking Bad Twins. Like, they're just like hit men. They're assassins. That is cool. I don't know and give a fuck about them.

I guess those guys are, Cool. I haven't watched enough Breaking Bad, to be honest, to know what that reference means. But, yeah. I guess my question is, do you think they're cooler than Jeremy? I love DK. Are these the coolest people in the draft? Are Val Rees or Sunny Stiles?

Together with their powers combined, they're the coolest player in the draft. Sonny Stiles, nicknamed up to the fuck. Sunny Stiles is pretty fucking cool. I know his name really gets in the edge. Sunny Stiles? Come on. It's sick. It's like a movie name.

Yeah. It's not Kevin. Sonny Stiles is pretty good. It's a good name year. Sometimes we have bad name years. I agree. Good name year. Why receivers have cool names?

A couple of the edge rushers have cool names. I agree. All right. The next guy here is Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker out of Texas Tech, who has an absolute pillar on his upper lip. He has a what? Oh, good mustache.

Yeah. He does. He really does. He looks like he's about 35. He's 24. He's been married for three years. He's 24. He's been married for three years.

That's the face of a man who's not married for three years. He'll be 24 in September when the season starts. He's been married three years, and his wife is a Army Black Hawk helicopter pilot. Wow. Okay. Well, he's a good football player. Here's why he's cool. He reminds me of Mickey from Snatch.

You guys have seen Snatch, right? The Brad Pitt character who just fucks around with people and then punches him one time and knocks him out. That is... Like feels no pain. I think about him all the time. The way he talks, I think about him all the time. Yeah, Padrainkabit, it's probably my. But he is, he's so good at the peanut punch.

I think he's had 13 career force fumbles. Six most ever in college football history. Lightning quick fist. Just lightning quick punch. He can be coming up to you and looking like he's about to tackle you and then he just punches the ball out. It's crazy how like effortless and consistent he is at doing it. So basically anytime you're around this guy, which is a lot because he's really

rangy has a great instincts in terms of getting to the football, sifting through the trash of the second level to get the ball. Great vision. He's a former quarterback, actually. So he had high school quarterback. And he played pretty much every offensive skill position before switching to linebacker after a couple of years in college. So he's a little bit older. But he just has a real knack for being around the football.

And anytime he's around, you got to be like two hands on the ball because he will just punch that shit out. So he's just a really fun player to watch, really rangy. And I think he's the type of guy, you'll probably hear his name a lot next year, wherever he lands because he's just racking up a lot of stats. Hyvet, do you agree? You like this guy? Yeah, he's pretty sick. I mean, he won the Buckus Award at linebacker, which is always like usually a pretty cool player. And then he's kind of like the explosive player of defense where you're like,

I don't know if on a down-to-down basis, Jacob Rodriguez is going to be like an amazing linebacker in the NFL. But he really just might be the best linebacker to ever come up through college football doing the peanut punch. Like, I don't know. Like, it's hard to be like, is that a skill or did you get lucky? But he literally had the sixth most ever,

I believe four fumbles of any football player ever. And so kind of like, he might be a liability at times, but then he also might just be top five in turnovers in every season of the year. He'll be responsible for a couple crucial turnovers every year and that's probably worth whatever he lacks. Like every single play,

he's going to be punching. You're like, oh my God. Like, it's pretty cool. Yeah, those ball skills don't really go. Like, that trains. I would imagine. It typically does, yeah, especially in on defensive players like corners. You typically see that transfer or translate to the NFL linebackers, things like that.

It's just a nose for the football. So that's that's Jacob Rodriguez at a Texas Tech. All right. A few of the guys here, you kind of bucketed these dudes together. Cornerback corner is what we'll call it. Yeah. There's three cornerbacks here. You have Avion Terrell.

You have DeAngelo Pons, unbelievable name. And then Keontes Scott. What makes all these guys cool to you? You could just, you could almost mix. and match their scouting reports and put them together and come up with the same guy because it's number one absolute fucking maniacs on the field just high energy high intensity raise the you know the tempo and energy of the whole defense reminds me of like the what devon witherspoon kind of brings to the field why i loved him coming out is that he just every play is like the last

play on earth kind of deal he just plays so hard and that that's i think you see that a lot with Torel, Avin Terrell from Clemson, DeAngelo Pons from Indiana, and Keontay Scott from Miami. And so these three guys, they're all kind of in that undersized outside corner slash nickel corner bucket. We're probably going to be Nichols at the next level. But we've seen so many guys be really high impact players at the next level in that mold, like Jalen Petra. Or I always get his name wrong. Petri. Petri.

Petrie. Yeah. Accus. So in that mold where they're kind of just defensive. of players that they do a little bit of everything, blitzing, tackling, hitting, and covering, and just have, like, good instincts and coverage. I love cornerbacks and receivers that are, like, small

and play way above their weight, way above their size. Jaden Reed is one of my favorite receivers because he's a small guy and he beats the shit out of people. And, like, all these DeAngelopons, Avion Terrell is thinner and then Countess Scott are, like, maybe too small, but they just play huge, and I love them. Toreau and Scott are both listed at 511

DeAngelo Ponds who's from Indiana who followed Signetti from James Madison to Indiana 5-9 And he had the pick he sent Dante Moore back to college He had the pick six on Dante Moore On like the first play of the game On the first play of the game and he's just He's just played

DeAngel Pons plays like a grown ass man I have no idea where you take him I don't know where you take a five foot in quarter If he was two inches taller he'd probably be a first rounder Yeah and 5-8 he's like short arms Like there's a lot of issues Those type of guys DK when you can't you're like, this guy has all the skills.

He would have been a first rounder, but he's just two inches short. I feel like that guy will still work out and be a later round pick and will be productive in the end. If you get the Angelopons in the fourth round, I will be so thrilled. Like, that is like, you're, you are so happy to have a guy like that in your team. And I get if you don't spend a first three, like one of the first three round picks on him. But he's the man. I will say, I want to talk about Keonté Scott, the quarterback from Miami. More and more than I, L, I feel like I'm saying more, I don't remember a player like this.

I don't remember a player like Keonti Scott. He is 20, he's going to be 25 years old as a rookie as a cornerback. He is 193 pounds. He ran a 4-3-3 at his pro day. He is, he plays that fast. I think he is the fastest player I have ever seen who genuinely loves tackling. Oh, yeah, he's a great tackler. He's like a linebacker in a corner's body.

Yes, he's like a 1990s neck roll linebacker woke up freaky Friday in a cornerback's body. He doesn't really know what to cover. Like he's a bad cover corner. but he runs a 4-3 and he's great at blitzing and run-D. And I don't, like, I don't know the last player that is as fast as him that I'm like, is as good at maybe Champ Bailey who's like as good as tackling at him. It's crazy to watch him play. Also, we should say, Keante Scott has, he was on Miami last year.

Before that, he was on Auburn. And before that, he was at a college that's just called Snow. Yes. San Diego Kid went to Snow. Snow. Snow college. DK, what state do you think snow college is in? It's a community college.

Pittsburgh. Sorry, that's no state. Pennsylvania. Utah. I looked at, he said that there was one Walmart and one McDonald's in Snow, Utah. Living in San Diego and moving to snow is one of the great culture shifts.

So you know what? He's got a grit, man. You know what Cantis got started doing after he had to spend a year in Snow, Utah? he would buy air mattresses and sleep in the facility, which even if you got NIL money, he continued to do. So like last year at Miami,

this guy's fucking awesome. Dude, he, like at Auburn, he was benched in 2024 in Auburn. And then there was this court ruling for Diego Pavia, the quarterback at Vanderbilt, that was like, Juko doesn't count towards your eligibility, so you get another year of school.

So Keontes Scott got a text that was like, Juco ruling, you have another year. And he went to Miami and he basically was like, this is my shot to make you the NFL, like I kind of fucked up last year. So he literally just bought an air mattress. and slept in the Miami facility. And he said,

I just kind of wanted to stare up at like Ed Reed's jerseys and all their numbers and the banners of this guy. Just wanted to sleep and look at their names. Yeah, yeah. He lives football. This is what you talk about when, when you hear GMs and coaches talk about like he loves ball. Now, some people would say that's all about ball.

Toxic relationship to work, maybe. But also, uh, it's crazy to watch a cornerback at 190 pounds be at full speed running to like the middle of the line of scrimmage and just getting around a guard because the guard like he's going, he's so fast and he just, I don't know, he's, I'm fascinated to see what he's like.

Also, where do you take a 25 year old cornerback? And I was going to say, D.K. Second third round. He's 24. Where do you think he'll go? Second or third round? Maybe third. I don't know. He's like, yeah, he is like that type of guy where the size concerns, the age concerns,

um, miss some mistackles on tape and, and like, I think he's a pretty good coverage guy, but not, maybe not as good as the other two corners that we were talking about here, Terrell and Ponds. But it just depends on the coach and the team that thinks that they can utilize his skill set. I mean, like, like Hafeitz alluded to, he led all corners in pressures and stops this year. So he's a great blitzer. Yeah, great blitzer gets into the backfield. He just like has a knack for ducking and jukeing around would be blockers and getting into the backfield.

I think he's got good instincts and coverage. he maybe he's just a little bit stiff. Well, maybe he's because he's sleeping on a fucking air match. Maybe he should get a real bed. Yeah, get a real matches in there. Miami, you get a lot of money. It's fine. Shout out.

Shouts out La Mesa, where he's from, San Diego. Nice. Home of San Diego State. I don't know why, but a 20, he's going to be 25 in August. A 25-year-old cornerback drafting him feels so much different. A key message. Look at how Miami and Indiana won. They have 24 and 25-year-old men playing college football.

And it's like Indiana is like the almost as old as the Packers. Miami, we're talking about a key. Messador is 24 going on 25. Keontes Scott's 24 going on 25. They're in college. And I'm like, you could have been done with a, like, a master's degree by now. But like, it is weird. At a position like cornerback where it's so speed-based and like by the time you're

in 29, 30, you're kind of aging out at cornerback. It is the kind of position where I'm like, I actually do think about the second contract thing. What are the odds? He has a great rookie contract. And you're like, all right, cool. So he'll turn 29 and then you're going to give him a second deal. But I also fucking love the way he plays.

And I'm kind of convinced Keonti Scott, all the things coaches say you can't coach maturity and like the work ethic speed and the willingness to tackle and be dirty in the running game and do dirty work and I'm like well teach him to play coverage he has all the other things you wish you all the other cornerbacks add so I don't know but also he's old it's weird well the teams you need to win now

like it seems like Seattle things like that I wonder if he'll end up in one of those teams where you don't really have to worry about the second contract as you get him in the building you have them on a rookie contract and you can just like scheme him up and coach him up right now especially if he's there in the late second early third or whatever, where it's not quite as big of a commitment. Yeah. So if you guys both had to choose one player from this list that you say,

is the number one coolest player in the draft to you, who are you picking? Hyphids, I'll start with you. It seems like you really like Keante Scott. I guess by the nature of being cool, if you pick something mainstream, that's kind of late. So I guess the mainstream, it's easy to say, Jeremiah Love or Sunday styles or Avilries. But I'm going to say Keante Scott. I want the 25-year-old cornerback who runs a 4-3. and just fucking love tackling people.

I'll say Zachariah Branch because I know I shouldn't like you, but I do, man. You're just too cool. He's just too cool. Yeah. Not a good actor, just hot. Just something about the way he runs.

Bunk. Love when the cars go by. Not a good actor, but you're saying Sidney's not a good actor on the record? That's not what I said. I saw the housewife. You didn't.

It's good. It's called the housemaid. Whatever. Well, you know what? I turned it on. You were clearly paying attention. I've found the movie. Okay.

Mine is Jeremy Bernard. I like the way that Craig corrects people. The name is actually housemaid, but that's fine. You do have a little bit of the Will Ferrell Jeopardy thing going on there. It's not ape tit. It's a petite date. Never mind. It's not housewife.

You know what? Never mind. Ape. It's not. I'll take. ape debt for 300. I'll take the condom thing. Wait, can I tell you one other, I'm sorry, before we move on from cool players,

I have to tell you guys one other thing. So you guys know Elijah Sarah Sarat, speaking of names, I always get wrong, Sarah at Sarat. Receiver at Indiana, who I think is very good, but he's the one at the combine we talked about, he was like, oh, who's my first jersey I owned, Michael Vick? And he was like, man, Michael Vick, he's a dog. Right. I have found out that Ali Connolly, shout out,

I pointed this out and I'm stealing it. So he has a, Elijah Serrat has a brother. Brother is named cheese. What do you mean? What do you mean? I don't know if it's government name, but they call him cheese. What do you mean?

Just cheese. What do you mean? Like Method Man in the wires. Just named cheese. What is his last name again? How do I look to Sarah? His real name's cheese? How do I look this man up?

Cheese Sarat. S-A-R-A-T. Oh, I see him. Elijah. No, wait, that's his brother? Elijah is the receiver at Indiana who just wanted. And Elijah's nickname is Waffle House. That is also true.

Because he's always open. Even though he's not really always open. This is an article in a newspaper that covers James Madison in Virginia, where his brother plays. And they literally say, he was a defensive back. The younger Sarah on the outside of receiver, cheese was at defensive back in the slot. And he just talks about his, yeah, Elijah's older brother, cheese. Great name. Great, great name.

Cheese. Cheese. I can't find anything that suggests his name is not cheese. Cheese is not on the internet. He's off the grid. Yeah, he's the one person on earth that's not on the internet. Yeah, he's disconnected from it all. Good for him.

Yeah, I can't prove that his name isn't cheese. Well, I think his name is Josh, but apparently everyone just calls him cheese. And I'm talking like the people around him, even if they use his government name Josh, then the rest of the article, they just call him cheese. His government name. Cheese became both mentor and motivator. I found his Twitter account, Craig. What is it?

It's cheese sarat. Is it? Serat. Well, it's F, F, F, sorry, F-T-F-C-Chease is his, like, account. I'll give him a follow. It just says cheese. You know, it's ironic, because he's not smiling in this picture, which is kind of funny. I can't find him.

I don't know what to say. I'm like, I keep Googling that. I can't find him. All right. Well, here, I'll find, we got an email here, and this is in part for you, Craig. Okay.

This is from Rye. Rye, our bone. Rye breakfast, spin drift raspberry, lime water, and double espresso. Whoa. So Raya had the rare email

where he hit multiple topics and all the topics were like, I'm going to put this in the show. I'm not discouraging anyone, but sometimes I'll pick a- triple axle. Nice.

He actually landed everything. I'm like, all of this is actually worth discussing. Okay. So Rye started with just, we did the free agency hangover last week and we talked about the movie The Hangover. Rye wrote one important point regarding the original hangover movie that I haven't seen a dress anywhere is that the hangover is a complete remake of the Wizard of Oz. Okay. Oh.

Vegas is Emerald City. L.A. is Kansas. The drugs on night one are the tornado. The scarecrow is. obviously Zach Galvinakis. The tin man with no heart is Bradley Cooper. The cowardly lion is Ed Helms.

And then Doug is Dorothy because he just wants to go home. Mike Tyson is the good witch. Ken Zhang is the flying monkey and maybe also the Wizard of Oz. And the baby is Toto. Okay. Is this like confirmed or is this just an awesome theory? I don't fucking know,

but I couldn't really believe how well it all lines up. It all lines up. I wanted to talk. you guys about it because it rattled me quite a bit. Wait, who's Mike Tyson? He says, he's the good witch. I guess. I guess.

Okay. I'm sure there are holes of this, but I read this and I was like, I have to tell. That kind of blew my night in that mind. You know, it's funny. We just did, um, the characters thing is good. Yeah. We just take the rewatchables that's coming out next week on LA Confidential. And there's also a theory that that movie is just a retelling of Wizard of Oz, basically.

And maybe there's just like a archetype story that, that Wizard of Oz fits into too. I mean, yeah, there's only like seven stories they say. Yeah, but,

because Ted Lassow, there's a good argument, that Ted Lassow is also actually entirely based on like the Wizard of Oz. Yeah. Because Ted is Dorothy and England is like Emerald City

and then Nate is the cowardly lion. Roy is the tin man with no heart. And then, um, is the older blonde woman the owner? Is that the, is that Oz? She's sorry,

she's the tin man. Oh, she's the tin man. Who's Oz? And then, uh, I'm forgetting who Oz is. I forget.

There was a really good theory. But the other point was that would seem like a stretch, but Ted is from Kansas and they talk about the Wizard of Oz all the time in the movie. They reference it constantly. In the show, yeah.

In the show, sorry. The show, the housewife, the movie. That is really good, though. I like that. I wonder if Todd Phillips, I wonder what he'd say if somebody brought that up to him. Well, if you ever talk to him in the town, Craig, bring it up.

Rye's second part of this email. Point number two, as a 60 year old American male, no, I do not drink water because as a child 60. 60, 60, 60. 60, got it. As a child, there was no bottled water

or purified water. If you were to gas station, you drink it from the fucking sink or you bought a Coke like a regular person. We could not buy $3 bottles of water because they did not exist.

But if they did, our dads would have beat our asses for not drinking from the hose. You guys are just too young to understand. The high five was invented by the Dodgers in the late 70s for fuck sick. The high five was invented by the Dodgers in the 1970s.

Well, I think it was the Reds, but yeah. That's like a old, that's like a 60-year-old man claim. That's like a Dusty. My dad invented the jump shot. We've talked about this because Dusty Baker claimed that he received the first high-five ever. There was a Reds player, Dusty Baker was like, just kind of had his hand. And Dusty Baker got high-fived.

And Dusty Baker was like, I was like, what the fuck was that? In 1970, I don't buy that. High-fives? We talked about this. You don't remember Dusty Baker saying he received the first high-five. But then we looked into that. That's obviously fake. And we're like, he might have got the first high-five.

You don't think gladiators were high-fiving? No. Along with the L.A. Dodgers teammate Glenn Burke. Yes, Dustin Baker was on the Dodgers. And his teammate Glenn Burke high-fived him. October 2nd, 1977. There's nothing new under the sun. The high-five was not invented.

You don't think Kay's men were high-fiving? Come on. We looked into this and we were stunned. If you weren't, listen, if you were 60 year older, the high five is way too strong. Way too strong. Cave men, the second they figured out fire, they were high fiving.

Email us if you remember the first, like, when high fiving came to be? If you were like, grew up with the early, we should ask Bill if there were high, when was he born? Oh, he might be too much. He was like eight. No, he's, we need, ask your parents

or if you're old enough, ask him if people were high fiving in the early 70s. It's a good question. The earliest, we got to use like actual memory here, not just the internet search. The earliest memories of our high-fiving.

Beat 1977. Early 70s. Yeah. Okay. Caveman high-fiving. And then the last point here from Rye. Rye says, as a longtime Packer fan, I want to prep Craig for life under Mike McCarthy.

Oh, no. It's third and nine. You run a six-yard out to D.K. You run a six-yard out to D.K. Metcalfe. Fourth and third. fullback dive gains two yards stupid penalties now using your shittiest Elvis voice you say we're going to get that cleaned up 73 times and you won't have to bother with his post game press conferences to be honest that sounds that sounds par for the course for the Steelers have been doing

the last five years on offense that's some Matt Canada shit so I'm down why not that sounds horrible god damn it I hate this you know what though Jeremy Bernard or Jeremy Bernard If he's on there. If Jeremy's there, it's all going to be okay. I will be excited. But yeah, Aaron Rogers and Mike McCarthy reuniting is, I don't know what's like, it's like the sad version of a Hollywood duo getting back together. You're like, uh, Clint Clint Eastwood's making another movie.

Great. The last one here that I want to read was about Lewis and Clark. Oh, yeah, right. It's from Brendan. B-Bone. And Brendan writes breakfast, a cup of coffee and a six milligram velo. Velo, God, I feel old because I don't, that is. Is that a Zinn?

Don't know. Vela? That's a Zinn. Nick a kick. I don't know what that is. I don't know if it gets you off Zinn or is Zinn. Medium strength nicotine pouch. There's a Zinn for Zinn?

I don't know. It's a nicotine. It's off brand Zinn. Expensive Zinn. I don't know. Anyway. Brendan Wright, you guys are talking about Lewis and Clark. I don't have much to add, but I'm from Illinois across from St. Louis.

So long so short, they learned about Lewis and Clark a lot in high school. And he says, unfortunately, I don't remember much, except that their dog's name was Seaman. Okay. Now, it's Seaman. Right. With an A. But the dog's name was Seaman. And there is a lengthy Wikipedia article for Seaman, the Lewis and Clark dog.

Do you think anyone made fun of them for that on their expedition? That was exactly where I wanted to go, Craig. I was wondering, speaking of how old the high five is, I was wondering if this was funny or not. I'm Lewis. This is my partner, Clark. And this is our dog. Seaman. You think a guy's like,

a guy's like, how are we going to get the people that we encounter to respect us with a dog named seaman? The wax hat you just fucking cackling. It was a newfy,

a Newfoundland. It was a newfoundland. Oh, wow. Big boy. Big boy. It was a huge dog. In fact, many Native American tribes

were shocked by how big the dog was. Over under on how many years that dog lived? Five and a half? No, I think it wild, made it a while. Really?

At one point, one of, the dog survives, so it's okay. But one of Siemens arteries in his hind leg at one point during the trip was severed by a beaver bite. Oh my God. Wait, man. A beaver bit semen.

Oh, God. You get rabies or something like that. Seaman got rabies. Stop calling him semen. Seaman got rabies. I don't know why I can't handle that. Oh, that's good. The dog outlived Lewis.

Oh, damn. Wow. It made it back. Dude, he was 150 pounds? That has to be a lie. There's no fuck. Actually, well, no. No, I have friends.

I have a new fee. And no, it probably was 150 pounds. The dog patrolled all night to Warren of Bears. I love this dog. Yeah, it's a pretty great dog. Once had to drive a buffalo off their camp. Yeah, so anyway. By the way, my mother-in-law emailed me after we did the last pot.

She has the book, Courage, Undaunted. It says it's great. Undaunted Courage. You should read it. We also have to decay. Next episode, you have to start bringing the book we have, on famous war heroes who are also athletes. You're gonna have to start doing,

tell me about the war grandpa as we get closer to the draft here. Hell yeah, I can't wait for that. There's some good anecdotes in that. Yeah, that one's great. Okay. I believe there's also a book called Of Courage Undaunted. Really?

What? Is it also about Lewis and Clark? Is that about the Chris Farley journey to beat them? These are two different books about Lewis and Clark, I believe. Undaunted Courage and then there's courage undaunted courage. And there's courage undaunted? It's of courage undaunted. No, wait.

Well, courage undaunted is written by Stephen Ambrose. Of courage and daunt is written by James Dardy. Yes. And then there's also undaunted courage. So is that like the name of their ex... Did they name it? That's kind of wild. Do you think they'd call it something else?

Yeah. Well, one was published in 1951. The other was 1996. Yeah. Of courage undaunted, 1951, undaunted courage 96. And the... The guy who wrote it in 96 was probably like, thank God he didn't use of courage. Like he can't believe he left undaunted courage on the table.

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe it's just like a shout out to the original book. Probably. Okay. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to everyone email to email us.

I'll take other famous animal Wikipedia's as always. Still looking for a Voitek the bear. If anyone wants to tangle with Voitech. Email us. We're looking for somebody who can unseat Voite Tech. Still looking. Or Mike the Headless Chicken. We'll take either war hero animals, expeditions, or Mike the Headless Chicken, if anyone wants to compete.

Find me something better than a headless chicken choking on a colonel to his death. You have to read that again. He joked to death. Also, thank you to the guy in the part of Colorado where Mike the Headless Chicken died that sent us the shirts from the festival. Yeah. Thank you to other people emailed us. What are the email prompts again? I don't know.

Oh, if you have anything else on the other movies being The Wizard of Oz, but I really do want the animal Wikipedia articles. The most interesting Wikipedia animals. Yeah, yeah. The most famous animals in history. Yes. Or animals who won medals. I love that. War medals.

And I want to thank you to the Discord mods. We have Swish, Beef, BFP, Moose, S-Bone, and K-bone. Shout out to the mods. And cheese. And cheese. Cheese is going to become a mod too. Join the Discord. And thank you, Lord.

Lord. Thank you, three dog night. Nice. Do they sing? Shambola, or however that's pronounced? I don't know. Three dog night. What do they do?

Shambola? Yeah. So do you know them? Are you Googling dog band frantically at the end? Three dog night. They do. They do. They do do shambola, right?

Yeah, they do. Yeah. You like that pull? Come on. That was incredible. That was impressive, Greg. That's a great song. Seaman would have gotten that.

Seaman's still alive, I think. In spirit. Dude, Jean-Bello is a great song. Throw that on. I can't picture it. You'll have a blast. I do that Mama told me not to come one. That one's good.

Excuse me. Mama told me not to come. I didn't write it. Look, I don't know. I'm not interpreting the lyric. Wow. I didn't say Mama don't come. Okay, sorry.

What did you say? Mama told me not to come. Right. That's so much better. Mama, don't, Mama said don't come. What the fuck is the difference? Mama told me not to come.

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