The Ringer NFL Show - Cowboys-Steelers, Week 6 Waivers, and Chicken Parm Heifetz

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

The guys start by recapping the wild ending to the Cowboys-Steelers ‘Sunday Night Football’ game, then talk about how yesterday was the longest football day ever (1:40). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 6 (10:00). Plus, emails (48:13)! RB: Tank Bigsby (Jaguars), Tyrone Tracy (Giants), and Trey Sermon (Colts) (10:00) WR: Josh Downs (Colts), Jalen Tolbert (Cowboys), and Michael Wilson (Cardinals) (22:48) TE: Tyler Conklin (Jets), Noah Fant (Seahawks), and Cade Otton (Buccaneers) (32:28) QB: Caleb Williams (Bears), Kirk Cousins (Falcons), and Daniel Jones (Giants) (40:09) D/ST: Denver Broncos, Philadelphia Eagles, Houston Texans, and Los Angeles Chargers (42:04) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producer: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Look, it's not that confusing. I'm Rob Harvilla, host of the podcast 60 Songs That Explain the 90s, except we did 120 songs. And now we're back with the 2000s. I refuse to say aughts. 2000 to 2009. The Strokes, Rihanna, J-Lo, Kanye, sure. And now the show is called 60 Songs That Explain the 90s, colon the 2000s. Wow.

That's too long a title for me to say anything else right now. Just trust me. That's 60 songs that explain the 90s, in the 2000s, preferably on Spotify. Football show, my name is Dan Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Borek, and we are going through our must add players after week five. Here's that's going to work.

We're going to go position by position. We're just going to take our favorite player at that position, but multiple of us pick the same player. We'll do a trivia tiebreaker, and someone gets that player, and then someone else have to pick a different player. It's kind of like waivers you'll get it. It's not that complicated. If you're listening, email, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com.

Send us trivia questions. Put trivia in the subject line. Fantasy courts. We do fantasy courts for our Wednesday episodes, but those are also live on YouTube Tuesday nights on the Ringer NFL YouTube if you want to go and subscribe there. You can watch. So emails fantasy courts as well,

and also you can do participate in the Sunday show by sending us or just commenting on the Instagrams or whatever TikTok and follow us. Ringer Fantasy Football on Instagram and TikTok. Okay, we're going to go through and we're going to do the Mustad players. But first, we have to talk about the Steelers Cowboys ending of Sunday football because the game went to like one in the morning.

And before we even do that, Craig, you're coming to us live from a hotel room where you got a noise complaint. You're there for the rewatchables in New York, the live show, and you got a noise complaint. Are you able to talk or do you have to whisper throughout this episode? I thought it was vintage Tomlin last night. I'm just kidding. It's 2 o'clock now, Eastern time. I think it's okay if I speak at my full volume.

I imagine people are at work. If they're not, then it's honestly on them to be in a hotel room at 2 p.m. That's like the weirdest time to be in a hotel room. So, yeah, look, I shouts out that guy. Maybe we got a new listener. He said he was kind of listening in the other room. He thought it sounded like a podcast. I made sure to point out to him

that I wasn't just a crazy person yelling at midnight about football on the phone to like my friend. Which is kind of funny because that's like how guess the line started. It was just Sal and Bill on the phone at night doing the lines. And maybe that guy was like, oh. People yelling at them in the hotels to be quiet.

And they're like, no. Yeah, but it's okay. It's okay now. Unfortunately, it's not okay for the Steelers. Terrible game. They look like crap. The defense doesn't look as strong as it used to be. And you know what?

We got a vintage Tomlin performance. Screwing up the timeouts is his bread and butter. Two timeouts used on the defense in the final five minutes of the game on a drive that they ultimately let up the game losing touchdown anyway and then had no time to potentially get back and kick a field goal with one of the best kickers in the league, Chris Boswell. So kind of a perfect vintage Tomlin performance. This makes sense. So the Steelers need to be close to 500 for Tomlin to feel something.

And one wouldn't have made sense. Dallas 1-20 to 17. But yeah, they actually took the lead by running the Travis Kelsey Kelsey Chiefs play with a little shovel pass to Kelsey right in the middle. D.K., were you more impressed by the Cowboys? Or were you mostly just kind of disgusted by the overall game? Or were you asleep because you're 42? Well, we forgot to mention last night that this was literally the longest day of football,

I think, on record. It started at 6.30 Pacific time and didn't get finished until, I don't know what, it was, 11 o'clock, Craig, our time, 1030. Because we had the London games all the way to the Sunday-day football game. game that someone made a joke that Dak Prescott is the first quarterback to throw a interception in the same game in two different days. Yeah.

Yeah. So, you know, it was a bit of a grind yesterday on Sunday. I don't know if I was 100% fully checked into this game. It was also kind of a boring game. Craig was offended when I said that last night. But it was a-picked up in the second half. It was a trash game.

Let's be honest. It picked up once it got to Monday. Monday night. The Monday morning football was better than the Sunday night football. Totally. It was like the after party. Everyone was punch drunk. Right.

But can I answer with neither? Like I wasn't really impressed with either team. I thought like, Dak Prescott, he had his, he had a couple of nice plays, but he also made some pretty big mistakes. Like he was getting into it with CD Lamb.

There was a clip going around where C.D. Lamb was like, we were trying to figure out with like read lips what he was saying. I have no idea what he said. Some people were saying like subpar pass or something. I don't think anyone, no one. He didn't say. I spent like a good five minutes trying to figure it out. I know he did not say subpar.

did a ringer investigation into it. Didn't get to the bottom of it. Pending, we'll find out what he said. Basically, I thought both offenses kind of inconsistent, kind of ugly. Literally, the leading receiver for the Steelers was Nagellors with 35 yards. Pickens, we had a, I mean,

Pickens was back to his old himself last night. Not running routes, throwing his hands up. He's fully back. Getting in a fight with a Cowboys guy at the very end of the game there. His eye tape, whatever that's called, read always fucking open,

which got him in trouble. So we're back to the pickings. Open fucking always, actually. Oh, open fucking always, right. Which makes less sense than always fucking open. Why did he write open fucking always? I don't know. Weird syntax.

I just thought overall was a weird game. One team had to win. Ultimately, the Cowboys did it. I don't know. I was just kind of glad it was over. Yeah, look, and now the Steelers play the Raiders next week. Devonte, you don't even have to leave your stadium. You could just stay in Vegas and join the

Steelers and be on a different team. Yeah. So if you want to keep things easy, just hang out in Vegas, just switch jerseys. Jacoby Myers did that when he like threw the ball to the Raiders and then joined them in the offseason. Yeah. Three weeks later. It's pretty easy.

Gotta say, you don't like traveling. To the Mike Tallinn point, I will say, this was the most classic Steelers game. I think it was kind of easy to come in the, yeah, like their favorite. Their Cowboys have no Michael Parsons and DeMarcus Lawrence, everything about this kind of said Steelers. And of course, they go down and they, it's actually great. I mean, Tomlin's been the coach for 17 years in Pittsburgh. And it's kind of crazy how consistently the, or 16 years.

But it's crazy how consistently it's, they're over 500 is the first thing you think of them. But they really are just always playing up or down to the competition. It is amazing. They are in many ways what D.K said of the Seahawks where they're always close, no matter what. It will be close. Best or worst team in the league, the Steelers playing close.

To your point, Craig, it was, I hate when teams just kind of like mindlessly used timeouts to preserve five-yard pounds, like flags. And I know sometimes you do have to take a time out. But the idea that 100% of the time you have facing a five-yard penalty that you should just take a time-out is crazy to me in the end-of-game situation. They're like, oh, it's second to 10 and there are 12 men in the huddle, take a timeout. Just take the 12-men in the huddle and preserve the timeout. Like, the Steelers might have won the game if they had just done that.

100%. I mean, they even called the timeout in the final play of the game or the final play of Dallas's series. Clock wasn't even running, right? Nope. That was also a crazy decision. Yeah, to get a read on what Dallas's offense looked like so they could then adjust their defense and they let up a touchdown anyway. That's the defensive coach mentality of like it's the opposite of someone who's played madden. It's someone who's just actually really thinking about no, no, no, we're going to stop him right here.

This is the game. But I also have to shut out that almost one of the most incredible plays I've ever seen. Sure. Landon Roberts. The Landon Roberts. Like, you know what it reminds me of? You know, I'm fast and the furious when I think Vin Diesel is fighting one of those nameless henchman and the 18 wheeler of a truck.

We're in a cargo plane. And he just jumps from like 20 feet away over some boxes and head butts him. But like from like comically far away. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah. Every Fastly curious scene is kind of like that. But he just headbutts it. But it was that.

He jumped like 10 feet and just headbutted the ball out. And it was like my favorite football play ever is Detroit Palomalu when he got a sack on a quarterback sneak and he timed to snap. But Atlanta Roberts like did that. He got he freaking forced to fumble. With his face. With his face. Yeah.

That was one of those situations where it's like a physics experiment where the person is going forward. but the ball just stays in the right in the exact same spot and just goes it just like falls straight down. It just landed behind the pocket right where it had been snapped essentially, right where it had been handed off. Luckily, Dak was there to land on it.

But that would have been like record scratch freeze frame. Yeah. And they got so lucky. They got so lucky. The ball basically just fell right next to them. Like it didn't bounce any weird way. I mean, that would have obviously ended the game.

So a massive bummer because that play is going to be forgotten because they lost, but it was incredible. It's one of those where that would have been the one of the greatest regular season plays ever if the ball had just bounced slightly differently, the Steelers recovered, the Steelers win the game because Landed Roberts forced to fumble and then, yep, well, they lost. Yeah. And again, I know this is different, but I also think, it also, it kind of reminds me

the Malcolm Butler play with the, sorry, did get the Seahawks where all we would ever talk about is how Belichick didn't call timeouts on the goal line. Yeah. If the Seahawks just run the ball in where that ball falls incomplete and then the Marshall Lynch's scores, all we would ever have talked about is Belichick didn't call timeouts there. But it weren't. You know the meme where it's like, the world, if so-and-so hadn't it's just like this perfect like space-age

pictures. Like if Malcolm Butler just hadn't done that, that would be my world right now. We'd have flying cars. That's the world I would be living in. But alas, here we are. Yeah, so that was the Sunday longest day ever. And also, we didn't even mention that it was actually extra long because if you watched the Cal Miami game, that was college game day and that went to one of the morning

Eastern into a 9 a. London game. So it actually was kind of almost too wall to wall a day. This was pretty crazy. So I'm expecting Craig to be like, too much football. we got a little too much football especially on the East Coast man I don't know what you people are doing out here yeah it's it's worse what you people are doing out here

it is worse okay so we're gonna get to all our most ads for week entering week six I can't believe we're here already that's insane so Chiefs Rams, Dolphins, Vikings are on by honestly my God the Rams and Dolphins really need a freaking buy just goodbye yeah and then obviously we haven't Monday Night Football has done happened yet so if something crazy happens in Chief Saints

obviously take that into account. DK, give us your mustad running back, number one mustad running back entering week six. I'm going with Tank Biggs for the Jags. Every time he carries the ball, he looks awesome. I think that's about all I need to say here. Yeah. He's been incredible.

He's still, I think technically the backup, but they're utilizing much more on the ground early downs. He's got a really good explosive run rate, broken tackles. He continues to sort of just take over snaps for ETN. E.N is still going to be the guy on passing downs, I think, because they trust more in that situation. But I don't know, man, Biggsby looks pretty good running the football. So now's the time to grab him before it's too late. I have him as well. We're in a real crisis right now. Every backup is better than the starting running back on their team. Bigsby has more yards than Eton on 20 less carries. He leads the league in yards yards per carry.

First in rushing yards over expectation. I mean, he's good. Wow, really? And not even just that, yeah, Adam Levitton had established the run. He's first in rushing yards over expectation. Travis E. Etienne's 18th. And then Tank Biggsby's third and PFF Russian grade. And Travis AetN is 55th, which I find hilarious. As you can't convince me, Doug Peterson doesn't secretly deepen his soul kind of hate Travis CTN a little bit. Yeah, I think you said this in the preseason.

I'm like curious what you're picking up on. I just, Doug Peterson just likes Tank Bigsby more and he wants to play him more. And I think he resents that the front office drafted ETN before his time. The Bigsby Renaissance is so, it reminds me so much of like the Swift thing that's happened this here where the first two games of the year, Swift looked like the worst running back in the NFL. And then all of a sudden, he's now the top three running back in the NFL. Bigsby last year had, I mean, I'm not even kidding, an all-time terrible rookie season. It was like you couldn't have scripted it worse for him.

Every time he got a target, it turned into a pick. And he was like one of the worst runners in the NFL. I had given up all hope that he would be any good. And now he's amazing. I don't know how that works. I don't know what happened here. There is no difference between good and bad things. No, I'll tell you what happened.

This is the redhead, the hot redhead Hollywood theory. There can only be one hot redhead in Hollywood at a time. There can only be one good person named Tank in the NFL at a time. And it was Tank Dell. And now it's Tank Bigsby and Tank Dell sucks. Yeah, Tank Dell broke his leg and then got shot. And we were like, eh, we still like Take Dell. Exactly.

We should have sucked coming. Yeah, I have Tank Bigsby too. So we can do a little Tank Bigsby Showdown time. All right. I love when all three of us are involved. It is the Tank Bigsby Showdown time. Hyphitz, do you have anything to address about the way you kind of handle the trivia answers thing?

Yeah, I do. I think I do an exemplary job. I think the allegations of Trivia Gate about me cheating and trivia are unfounded, borderline insulting, and my record of service is exemplary, and I look forward to various apologies from everyone coming forward and accusing me of these baseless accusations. that I've been incorrect on two questions this year.

I don't find that baseless. I've been incorrect on two questions. You have offered, you have told us the answer that ended up being incorrect twice this year. It's week five. How is that cheating? Isn't that me getting worse at my job? Regardless, you are not an exemplary trivia host. If the answers you are giving are wrong.

Exemplary, it's a sliding scale. I would argue. Also, in both times where you were incorrect, You won that round of trivia. Curious. And it was refunded when we, I would argue, fact checking is difficult when you're not allowed to know the answer. When you're not allowed to know the facts,

it makes the fact checking quite complicated. But I thought what you do is, it's like what Sal does with Guess the Lines. He guesses beforehand, then checks the lines, and prepares for Bill. I thought you checked, you read the question,

you gave your answer, then you found out the answer, and then fact checked it. I feel like that's what you should do. That is what I do. And that is what I will now do. that more transparently going for it. I will do the Sal where I already have my guess

and I will just admit that. We also could just have you know like Kai give the question. It's just too complicated. But yeah, no, I have, yeah, I have my guesses that I give my guesses. Or maybe we could have Kai as a second fact checker.

The judges. The judges on Jeopardy when they check them. Maybe we're going to accept that answer. Why don't you guys throw a challenge flag when you want to be mad? Maybe can Kai be our David Muir and he's just sitting there, fact-checking the second we say something? They're eating the dogs. Who's David Muir? Oh, the ABC News guy?

Yeah, yeah, who's just fact-checking after everything. And we just ignore everything. I thought there would be no fact-checking. I was told 40,000 muscles in an elephant's trunk. I was told there'd be no fact-shed. Did Vance say that? He did. Man.

It's like straight out of the Chevy Chase. I was told there'd be no math. This is from added the pronunciation in the email, which is incredible. Spelled O-I-S-I-N-A-N-A-S-E-E-E. Ashin. Ashin, I am from County Dairy in Ireland. Oh. Where Dairy Girls is filmed.

And we talked about Dairy Girls yesterday. I did. So, A-S-E-N would like to do trivia about my wonderful county. And my question is, what is the population of County Derry as of 2021? Oh, wow. Okay. I have no idea. I'm ready to get.

County Dairy. I'm ready. I would tell you my answer, but I feel like I would just anchor both of you. Okay. Also, Hyvitz has had like a day to think about this. D.K. and I had 10 seconds. Sure.

Also, Hyvitz watches Dairy girls. Like, is that in the show? You want me to give you my answer? He has a better grasp of how rural is it is. 50,000. I said 50,000. Oh, man. Now you, no, no, no.

Now I can't hear shit. If I go first, then you guys have no fucking excuses. I just figured that. That was literally. the number I had in my mind. Hi Fitz. Really? Wow. Yeah. Like on the dot. So now I'm going to have to like price is right his ass. I'm ready whenever you are. I actually feel so freed by the idea that I'll just go first.

And then when you guys lose, you have no. All right. Since it's kind of my thing, I'm going to take the under 49,999. Craig, what do you got? To do the 49, 99, 98. Trapp them there. Don't you fucking dare. This is to get Hyphitz. Trap them. 10,000. Oh, shit. The answer is 252,000. Ah, Craig, hyphets one. Wow, look at that. Craig, you had a chance to limit him to literally one answer, and you didn't do it. I don't play that way.

I thought it was going to be like a thousand people. I thought that was the joke of the question. 250K? Okay. Usually people don't send in a trivia question unless there's like a unique answer. The unique part was that they're from dairy. I know, but I was like, I don't know, 250,000 people in a county sounds normal to me. I'm like, that's, trivia is usually about abnormal things.

things. I made a miss there. A Sheen got me. I went low because I always feel like there's fewer people in Ireland than you think. That's right. That's what I was thinking is like. It's like there's more Irish heritage people of Irish heritage living outside of Ireland than in Ireland. There's probably more Irish heritage people in New York, something like that. My wife is like 100% Irish. If this doesn't have anything to add to this.

I just feel bad that we're like persmurching Oshed in her county. I'm not besmirching. You're disappointed. there's so many people there. I'm disappointed. I am that it's a normal amount of people in that. Hafeits. My last name is Kelly.

I also saw a TikTok from an Irish guy who said, don't fucking tell anyone in Ireland if you're Irish. They don't care. Oh, yeah. That guy's really funny. That guy who just gives you tips to go to Ireland. So like, if I go to Ireland, I would be like, hey, I have Irish heritage. They're like, yeah, so does everyone I know in my life.

Deadline. Nice. Cool, man. That's awesome. I get Tank Bigsby, D.K. Who's your number two running back then? Well, this is funny because I'm going to go with Tyrone Tracy, I guess, from the Giants, who looked pretty damn good, 18 carries, 129 yards.

I think I saw it was the most rushing yards. Maybe you said this yesterday. It's most rushing yards by a rookie running back in the Giants debut. In a start, yes. In a start. First, in a debut start. He had played, but like he started the game. 19 touches, average 6.8 yards per touch.

Like, he looked pretty explosive. I think there's still meat on the bone in terms of the passing game, too, because he wasn't really utilized in the passing game that much in this game. Obviously, Singletary is due. back and they'll be in a split. But in terms of the other options here, Craig, I'm guessing who you're going to go with here. Trace Serman was the other one

that was kind of at the top of my list. Tracy was a receiver in college and I feel like that's going to be the new Jimmy Graham played basketball, but the whole thing is, well, I don't do. They do that more. The vision is hard. You can't just have running back vision. But Tracy, he has vision. He can not pretty legit. Yeah, he looked legit. So that's exciting. Yes, D.K., you're right. I went with Trace

Arman, who, you know, I don't know how good Tray Sermin is, but he had a decent fantasy day because he had a touchdown. He weirdly caught six passes with Flacco. He was actually stuffed from the one two other times, so his day could have been even much bigger. Oh, wow. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor, high ankle sprain, still questionable. I'm not sure he's going to play next week. They're playing the Titans. So I will run it back with Trace Sermon one more week. It's not a great week at running back on waivers. And I will, yeah, I think the difference, too, is that Tracy, Sermon's probably a better play for this week. Right. If you need this week.

Tracey. Long term, definitely, Tracy. Tracy, because they can't just go back. to Devin Singletary, just being Devin Singletary. Tracy clearly has a lot of juice. And also the Giants played the Bengals this week, which on Sunday at football, and Bengals defense just keeps taking hits. I mean, they also, Dax Hill towards ACL. So that's another, he was a safety or cornerback converted safety. So they just, Bengals keep losing people.

So their entire defense is injured at this point. I will also shout out if you don't, those guys might be added. And if you don't need someone this week, but you do want to stash Jalen Wright for the Dolphins, because Jalen Wright, 13 carries 86 yards. shout out Tyler Brooke who listens to the show. He called him months ago that go home to your wife running grab prospect and this year's draft as a rookie because he's basically Rahim Moster's 5'10, 20010 pounds and runs a 4-4.

But he's a perfect Miami Dolphin. But he looks like he looked good in this game. And the dolphins are on by. So Moster came back. Maybe A.C.N. gets back. All these guys are paper machet though. Jeff Wilson keeps getting hurt and pre-game warmups. Moster, you know, he played one game and got hurt and came back.

A. Chan keeps leaving games with issues. So Jalen Wright looks to me like a guy, especially if two, it does come back. a month. Jalen Wright is that guy who I wouldn't be surprised that if Tua comes back and the Dolphins offense is solid. Jalen Wright has flavors without league winning potential. So Jalen Wright's about as high upside of my handcuff. I had him in my list as well as like a stash. Probably don't start him right away. No. They're on buy anyway next week. But I think this is like the most basic analysis ever.

But Jalen Wright just looks so much bigger than all the other dolphins players. I feel like this is something that I've seen on Twitter. People have been talking about like the Dolphins. are just the smallest team. They're just too small. Everyone is tiny on that offense, and they need some guys that will just bring an element of physicality

to the offense. And I feel like Jalen Wright, every time he runs the ball, I'm like, he's just so much bigger than all their other running backs. I don't know, I don't know, if that's going to matter a lot or not, but to me it's just like,

he's very different than what Rahim Moster and A. Chan bring. Yeah, and then the exact opposite of if you need something down and dirty, but you need it for this week. Alex Madison for the Raiders has a long touchdown streak. I mean, he's awful,

but like he's a true one-night stand. I don't even like him. They're playing the Steelers, too. Exactly. It's not good. Over him, I would do Rocheon Johnson for the Bears, who basically vultured a couple touchdowns from DeAndre Swift. I do think he's going to get the goal line touchdowns.

You can do Rochon. I don't think it's super exciting compared to some of these other guys who talked about. Antonio Gibson, who, and if you're really disgusting, I don't like Antonio Gibson. He was announced as the starter and still suck to how you're going to play in, but if Drake Mays the starter, maybe something happens there. And then I think just want to mention Tide Chandler, but honestly, I don't even, I think he's like,

a fraction as exciting as Jalen right because Tide Shilner, Vikings are on a buy Aaron Jones got banged up, but I don't even necessarily I think Tide Shailner, I know I've talked about him a couple weeks ago, I think Tide Shielner you can cut for right now because it's like, I feel like he's to me he's a stash type of player just because Aaron Jones has a

he's getting up there in age, he has a history of injuries. Last year he missed multiple games with, I believe, hamstring and knee injuries or something like that. Tai Chilner fumbled as soon as he got in the game. He dropped the pitch. He didn't even fumble. He just dropped the pitch that was in his hands. then they brought Miles Gasket in. And then these unbyser and Jones will be back.

So you can, you don't feel bad if you cut tight jail there. Although, yeah, but any week, Aaron Jones misses, he'd be good. Any of the running backs?

You guys want to move on. Dari and Gumbowalee? That's like deep, deep leagues. And that's about it. Yeah. All right. Wide receiver.

DK. is your number one wide receiver anyway, week six. Darnow Mooney from the Falcons who. Best player in the league. Essentially like a one A and one B. This is one of the more, I think,

surprising storylines. in fantasy this season is that Darnow Mooney is like a huge focal point for the Falcons. 24% target rate, Drake London has a 26% target rate. So they're very close to just being sort of a one A and one B. Kirk loves them. They use them on bubble screens. They use them on quick throws. They throw deep to him.

He had two touch, two more touchdowns in this last game. 16 targets from Kirk Cousins. Last week, obviously they threw a ton. I think it was like 58 passes. That's not going to happen every week. But, but yeah, Darno Mooney. he's turned into like an every week starter at this point. It's very shocking to me, but it's kind of the case.

I have him as well. If he's eligible, I'm definitely taking him. He's a guy who I always thought actually looks good early on in his career. And he's just been kind of stuck with a lot of bad quarterbacks. He was injured. So it's nice to see him actually kind of show the potential I thought he had. But it's definitely him.

He had a thousand-eared season. Yeah. Yeah, we can do, do we even want to just graduate him to like obviously it's him and then go to the next guy. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think we can just graduate him because I, yeah, I think, you know, he's all.

just like the guy who pops up on waivers and he's sorted to the top because he had 27 points. I think if Mooney's available in the league, you can go get him. I was going to say, I think the real question with Mooney is like, if you have Mooney, it's like, who are you playing him over? Maybe we can get into that on Thursday. But like, Tyree Kill. Jalen Wattle. Yeah. It's crazy.

Like maybe we can do that on Thursday. But there's a lot of guys that you're like, man, like I'm starting him over Michael Pittman, right? Just like do the blind taste test or whatever, start. The blind start test. Yeah. Like, am I starting him over George Pickett? Like maybe. Yeah, I think so.

Okay, so my second guy on this list would be Josh Downs. Is he eligible for you guys too? Yeah. The last two weeks, he's outperformed Michael Pittman. The big caveat here, of course, is that Joe Flacco is massively, massively important to Josh Downs' production. So I don't know, like, I guess I'm just assuming that Flacco might get another shot at this, but that's probably, that might be wrong. They may just end up going straight back to Anthony Richardson. It sounds like Richardson wasn't the.

really that close to playing last week because of this hit pointer issue after another week off, maybe he'll be ready to go again. But Downs, I mean, regardless, Downs is going to get a pretty high target rate,

whether it's Richardson or Flacco. I think Flacco obviously just raises the ceiling in terms of the past volume. But ultimately, I like Josh Downs as a player. I think he's good. And I think he's sort of the number two slash 1A1B

with Michael Pittman in this offense right now. Downs has been fantastic with Flacko. There are a lot of numbers that put him on, like Malik neighbors levels in terms of like first downs per route run targets per route run. He is like really really performing with Flacco. Nine catches a game with him. But yeah, I mean, what a weird scenario where they're going to bring in their starting

quarterback probably lose to the Titans and then have to figure out what they want to do going forward here. Craig is down to your number one receiver. Yeah. Although it's close, but yes. It's all dependent on Flacco because I think there's another guy. I think Jalen Tolbert on the Cowboys is a close two for me. me. Yeah, I'm going to take Jalen Tolbert just because I think Josh Downs is every week

Josh Downs plays at Joe Flacco. I would rank downs over Flacco, but the difference is I think Jalen Tolbert. I feel like you're basically just adding Jordan Annison. Like, or you know how like the first month of the season, it was whoever was the number two receiver to Justin Jefferson just caught a touchdown like for five weeks in a row basically. It was like Jordan Addison. Sorry, he wasn't playing, but then it was like Jalen Naylor, Jailer, Jalen Jailor, Jordan Nasson, Keebuck. Like whoever's the number two to Justin Jefferson's just vacuuming touchdowns. That's how it worked with Julio Jones. Brandon Cook's his uninjured reserve. He got an infection after a knee injury. The Giants played Thursday at football versus Dallas.

Brandon Cook was supposed to get a routine knee surgery and he got an infection as an IR. I don't know when he's coming back. He's eligible in a month. I don't know if he's going to come back in a month. So I think Jalen Tolbert's basically like adding a Jordan Addison on waivers. And he's seven catches, 87 yards in the touchdown last night. Sorry, Craig. But I think Talbert's just like a perfect. He will be able to contribute for like all season for a high high octane offense in a way, and especially if the Dallas defense is bad, a lot of shoot. So I'll go to over. I think I'm going to switch. I want Tolbert.

Okay. All right. I convinced you. But we're going to still do trivia? Yeah, but it'll be for Tolbert. Also, High Fitz, I respect your attempt for fairness, but I don't think you should give us the answer early. That feels my answer.

Yes, I don't think you should give us your answer early and let us anchor. Because then we can just screw you every time. I don't think that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. All right. I appreciate your trust. Even though we did not take the opportunity to screw you at all. Yeah. Well, you did.

I tried. Craig was not doing it. You said we. You did, though. He denied the opportunity. I took the high road. I respect the game. DK took the low road and it's noted.

Okay. All right. Next up. All right. So we have we have a showdown time. Yeah. It's a Jalen Tolbert. Sorry everybody in this hotel.

Showdown time. It would be so amazing if Craig got a noise complaint. Hey man. Sorry, I'm just trying to work. I'm taking much of Zoom meetings. And I guess you have Jalen Tolbert and a gong in there. Turn the gong up, Craig, in there and see what they do.

They're like, hey, man, I heard you talking about Jalen Tolbert. You're nuts. It's definitely Michael Wilson. I'm like, okay. All right, this is from Mike. Mike. For 14 seasons of the Great British Baking Show. Jesus.

All things Hyfitz mentioned on last night's show. How many Hollywood handshakes has Paul Hollywood given out to contestants? Wow. So, D.K., do you know what that is? No, I don't even know what that is. Well, you know what? You got all the wars. I don't know what the Bulls and the Battle of the Bulls was.

Everyone learns about World War II. in school. No one fucking learns about British baking show. Dude, I bet you a lot of people. You know how many people watch the British baking show

on Netflix? More than the people who watch the history channel, bro. That's definitely true. It's not mandatory in school, though. It should be.

So, D.K., Paul Hollywood is one of the judges on Great British baking show. It's like Simon Cowell of baking. Is he the blonde guy? Yes.

Is this name really Paul Hollywood? Oh, he's white hair. White hair. He's white hair. No, that's Gordon Ramsey. Wait, his real name is Paul Hollywood? Is that right? That's incredible.

but it's it is what he goes by. Anyway, he's one of the two judges on the show, and he very rarely gives out a handshake if somebody bakes a perfect item. So it's like the highest honor for to get a Hollywood handshake. By the way, I think his real name is Hollywood. That's incredible. What's Tom Cruise's real name again?

Tom Mappother. I bet he's Paul Mappither. Paul John Hollywood, MBE. I can't believe him and Tommy Shelby both got an MBE. That's such bullshit. OBE or MBE? This one says MBE. most excellent order of the British Empire.

Emails at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Someone in England explained to us the difference between OB and M. Yeah, how do you get, does this mean we should be calling him Sir Paul John Hollywood? I won't call him SBJ now. Yeah, it's a rare, it's a rare thing. How many seasons? You said 14 seasons? 14 seasons.

Man, okay. It's such a good show. I want to go on it. I can bake. Definitely not at that level. You sent us banana bread once. I did across the country. So you didn't even have it at its peak freshness.

Craig and Hyfe had sent me cookies for my first. by the way. Thank you for that. We didn't bake those, but yeah. Yeah, but still they were good. All right, you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. Okay. Three, two, one.

22. I said 50. I said 42. I said 28. I just triggered three a season. I think he's, I said two a season. I think he's been giving them out more lately. I think he used to be very strict with him.

He used to be a withholding father. Now he's a little more. It's getting a little softer in his old age. Like the Netflix are made more visual. Okay, the answer is 53. Yes. Look at that. See, D.K.

when you know less about stuff. I know. Actually, I almost, Hifis, I almost said before we did the trivia, I'm like, I'm probably going to win this one

because I have no fucking clue. There you go. Like fantasy football. Yeah. Honestly. Well, you get downs anyway, so hyphets,

that means you get Tolbert. God damn it. Oh, yeah. Good luck. I wasn't even, I wasn't even, this is, I don't love where I'm at.

This is kind of a two, a two player tier here. I think there's one person you should just take. Well, I think long term, I should take Jalen Polk. Every year there's a guy

who's available that we're like, fuck that guy. Alec Pierce for the Colts, he now had a great game with Joe Flacco. Alec Pierce went out and had three catches for 134 yards and a touchdown. And it's like, oh, the target is not good. He's not getting the ball enough. He's the only one of the Colts who has had an awesome, awesome, awesome performance of Flacco and Anthony Richardson. You just got done tucking me out of Josh Downs or tucking Craig out of Josh Downs.

And now you want to go to the guy that gets fewer targets? Downs and Tolbert are going. I don't know, at some point, it's funny that Alec Pierce is like, is he still a top 15 receiver on the entire? entire season. Yeah. At some point we're like, no, not that guy.

I'm like, I don't know. The HR meme. I love it. At some point, just take Alec Pierce. He's Deshawn Jackson, basically for fantasy per spreadsheet terms. He's basically Deshawn Jackson.

He'll get you 22 or 2.2 every week, which is actually pretty useful. Yeah, which is actually pretty helpful. Eh. He's the 23rd receiver or Y receiver 23 on the year so far. Just on waivers. I still think long term you should get jail and pull.

because Drake May might be back this week and Jalen Polk I think is going to be the number one on this team. He's playing 100% of New England snaps last week. Almost had a touchdown. Probably should have had a touchdown. Great ass. Average separation score. Shut of fitness points.

Amazing. Jailen Polk. Dairy air. Extraordinaire. I'm going to go with Michael Wilson on the Cardinals. You made up that name, right? Michael Wilson has more catches and targets than Marvin Harrison this year.

And they're playing the Packers and it's going to be a shootout. And Michael Wilson has been relatively consistent this year. So I'm going to play it safe. Michael Wilson, aka Demure T. Higgins. Is that what you said? He's a good player. He was one of those guys that prior to the Senior Bowl, no one really knew much about him. He would not done a whole lot in his career at Stanford because he was injured a bunch of times.

And then he dominated the senior bowl and everyone was like, who the hell is this guy? He's so good. Basically, you know, he parlayed a really good performance. at the senior bowl into, I think he was a third round pick, and now he's a starter for the Cardinals. I think that the other factor here is they're not really scheming up looks for Marvin Harrison. It doesn't feel like he's just kind of a part of their offense.

He's third on the team and targets behind Tray McBride and Michael Wilson. So that definitely benefits, you know, the number two guy in this offense where defenses are going to tilt their coverage to Harrison and open things up for Wilson. Tight end. Not a great week. God, tight end. I don't even know why we do the tight end thing. I don't know either.

I mean, again, Monday night football, I don't know what you guys have. Saints Chiefs haven't played yet. Tacey Mills out this week. Do you guys have Tastom Hill? If Taysa Mills healthy and I know it's tough because he's going to play next week. But every tight end could have one point. And if we're in a league, if you're in a world now where tight ends, all of them could just go one or two catches in a game.

I'm like, you might as well have Taysam Hill, who has now rushed a touchdown in for the Saints as a quarterback and a running back. And I'm like, I would just go. We all have them right. Let's put Taysam Hill as our obvious candidate to be top for the rest of season. But then, like, I think we should choose guys that we know we'll be playing next week. for people that need to like stream tight ends. So if you,

if Taysadil's available, you should add him just because he's the guy. Well, rest of the season, I would say he probably has the highest odds of being something. Not even close. The first guy I had on my list, and this is based on the fact that multiple other players

have bi-weeks coming up, but I guess Tyler Conklin for the Jets. The tough part about Conklin is in this last game and shouts to Nathan Yonki at PFF for pointing this out. Like he, the Jets started using a heavier rotation. And he wasn't, Tyler Conklin at tight ends,

I should say. And Tyler Conklin wasn't really playing on two tight-end sets because he's not as good of a blocker. He's basically just a pass-catching type of tight-end. And so previously he'd been playing a ton of snaps. This last week he didn't play nearly as many. So again, once again, like pick-ins are extremely extremely slim. But Conklin, I actually picked him up in a couple of leagues.

And he kind of got me through the week with a 6-55 line, six-sketches, 55 yards. I mean, that's like about as good as you can hope for at this point with like any of these tight-end streamers. Food, water, atmosphere. I feel like that's... Yeah, I don't know. His last three games, nine targets, six targets,

eight targets. Yeah, he sees a lot of work. It's Conklin, if I have to pick somebody other than Tays and Hill. I would say also Colby Parkinson, but the Rams are on by this week. Parkinson had 13 targets in this last game.

So if you don't need one for this week, Parkinson going into week seven would be better. So depressing. Yeah, this is tough. I would take Tyler Conklin, I guess. sure, fine, whatever, man. Biggers can't be choosers.

What do we got? Who else do we have here? Dude, Kate Otten? Yeah, right. My nemesis, Kate Otten, not doing that. So this is showtime times from Dave. Are you going to do the thing, Greg? It is the Tyler Conklin.

Shout out time. Yeah, that he deserves a whisper. We can't let other people hear. We're talking about that. I should have whispered his name. Someday, if we get big enough, can we get a real gong? Absolutely. I have a real gong.

You have a gong? You have a gong? Why have you not told us this? Oh, I bought it. I actually bought it in case I would do it. No, I did buy it only one time. But I bought it actually in case we would use it for the show. Oh, you bought a gong for the purposes of the show.

Yeah, I did. How big is this gong you're talking about? You know what's so fucked up? What? I threw it away two days ago because Jack was like, are you ever going to use this? How big was the gong? It wasn't big. It wasn't like cool.

It was like this big. And I threw it away to Jack was like, are you going to use this? We've had this for like a year. For reference, Hyvitz made like a square, like maybe a foot. It's like the size of a, yeah. It's like the size of a... The circumference of one by one. Yeah, like an open laptop.

I don't know. No, it's small. I closed laptop. But yeah, I actually just threw it away because I was like, I'll never do this. I can't really like him up. I just love the idea of Hyvet's like walking out to his trash can tossing a fucking gong in there. Yeah. I know.

There's a guy across the street looking at him. He's like, the wife. He was like, what? You guys ever seen scrubs? the sex gung no I don't know anyway

what were we talking about oh that's why Hyphids bought it originally is this from Dave this from Dave Dave Dave David David the Adams family

had two creepy seasons on TV in 1964 and 1965 how many total episodes were there of the Adams family they only two seasons I know I find that shocking but yeah 64 65

for the record I was not alive at this time for those of you No one was thinking it but I don't think anybody assumed that

all right how many episodes in two seasons of the Adams family in the mid-60s? You guys seem thinking. Seasons used to be a lot longer. Oh, well, now I had my note. You're probably right. But again, I'm like, is there anything interesting about this trivia fact? Or is this just, like, is there something special about this?

I guess. It's just topical. Okay. It's more topical, not unique. Well, I was going to say a number. Now, Dikis got me thinking. Yeah, I feel like we're all going to be closer. but someone just guess a thousand

alright I got a number in my mind 3, 2, 1, 30, 30 70 you said 70 30 I said 36 what you said TK 32 I was gonna say 24 because I feel like I'm like I don't know like there's 12 sub or no I mean it's typically sitcom is around 24th season wait wait no I want to choose my interview by math wrong I was gonna say they used to be 24 episode seasons Dika said older so I was thinking oh there's probably 30th season

that's why I said 70 I was like hey maybe they were really cramming them in all right I really screwed that it'll probably be 15 and you'll and you guys will be right okay whatever what did i what did i say i don't know 36 i said to say 36 a season oh i see oh 72 okay all right the answer is 64 nice don't come from me in tv would you say dk i got last oh what'd you what you guess i guess 32 oh tough hooray i get tyler conklin you get tyler conklin so do i get tase him hill if he's healthy? I think the point was nobody gets Taysa Mill. Okay. But we all get Taseomil.

Great. So Craig gets Conklin, hyphets who you take in. This is great. You got to scrape the bottom. I guess if Drake May starts, I guess Hunter Henry just on the off chance, Drake may revise Hunter Henry's career, but man, is that depressing and shit? Yeah, yeah. And then Kate Otton, I would, Kedon's probably a better pick for this week just because at least the bucks do stuff on offense, man. The buck's score.

The bucks throw the ball. Well, who are you picking? I'll just roll the dice that Drake me. I'll start and I'll take Hunter Henry. All right. I'm taking Otton. 20% target rate over the last three weeks. He didn't really do much this last game,

but he actually leads the team in total catches over the last three weeks. Kate Otton does. Again, he's catching the ball and falling down, so it's not like super valuable. But what are we doing here? This is tight ends. Yeah, it's awful. Also, wait, did none of us take Noah fan?

I would have taken Noah fan. Forget on Hunter Henry. I would take Noah fan. Playing the Niners? Yeah, I don't care. I would take Noah fan. He's talented. Okay.

Interesting. Tight ends. They all suck. Quarterback. If anyone cut Caleb Williams, I feel like you got to, Caleb Williams, if you need a quarterback, like if you have my homes, like, Caleb Williams is, he's running again. I feel like Caleb Williams is going to be good.

Kirk Cousins, obviously, you don't need to tell you that. 500 nine basing yards. I also think Daniel Jones is like an incredible streamer. He's playing well again, though Giants are blocking. He's still running. They're playing the Bengals this week, so it's a shootout. I'm not going to lie. If your life dependent on getting this right,

more fantasy points for the rest of the season. Daniel Jones or Patrick Mahomes. Who would you take? Mahomes. Would you though? That's the point though. Would you? Yes.

You want to know why I feel that way? The way they treat Daniel Jones is they're trying to get rid of him. He gets absolutely clobbered like three times a game on designed runs. I don't know. It's bizarre to me that they run him. Fine. Points per game. Mahomes.

What are we doing? He hasn't had. had more than 17 points in an entire game. He said 15, 12, 16, and 13. I just think you shouldn't have, if my life depends on it, I'm taking the best quarterback ever to play football. All right, fine, if your team depended on it, to win a fantasy league. Like, I'm just saying Daniel Jones, like, if there were no

stakes at all, Craig, who would you take? Yeah, you should have asked it the other way. If there were no stakes, I would take Daniel Jones. Fine, no stakes, fine, because his worst game was, Ryan O'Hanlon texted me this morning reminded me the week one was against the Vikings, when the Vikings have destroyed every quarterback they've faced. If you throw that out, and also, if you want to throw out Thursday and football, which is, I thought, is the worst game to season since week one.

Which, I think we should do a thing with stats, sometimes we throw out all Thursday games as a matter of principle. All his other games. I don't know. He's been pretty solid. Like he's had more points three times than Mahomes season high. You guys should keep them. That's not what I said.

It's better than Mahomes. Like the record state, that's not what I said. Not what I said that. Anyway, I think Daniel Jones is a really good streamer. And if Patrick Bum's had a different name, we would be like cut moms for Daniel Jones. Obviously, you don't do that, but you could. Not really. You should trade neighbors is just so good too.

Yeah. All right. Defense. The Denver defense, if they're available, I think they're one of the better defenses in the league. We've been talking about for a couple weeks. Now it's probably too late. But I would get the Denver defense if you can. If you cannot, the Eagles are playing the Browns. Browns suck.

DeShon Watson sucks. The Eagles are off a by playing the Browns. I bet people cut the Eagles because they're on by. So I would take the Eagles versus the Browns. Texans defense, if they play the Patriots, especially if the Patriots do play Drake May. I would play the Texans defense versus the Patriots and Drake May. And also, Chargers defense off a by playing. the Broncos and Bo Nix.

Did you guys see it Sean Payton call Bo Nix Ferris Bueller? For what reason? How so? I don't know. They were screaming at each other. And then after the game, Sean Payton was like, why are you screaming Bo Nix? He said, it's part of the deal.

There's still a little Ferris Bueller in this player that we got to get rid of. Like he's like disobeying and not listening to authority? I wanted to ask you. I don't know what that means. There's a little Ferris Bueller in this player we got to get rid of. And he says, talking about Boe. And I love him to death. Sometimes it's my love language, which is screaming at people.

but what does that mean Ferris Bueller? Is it troublemaker? Yeah, like he's not listening to his superiors. Yeah. But that's a very weird comp. Like Ferris Bueller's beloved. Yeah, everyone's just, yeah, you're like, oh, so you're the teacher?

Yeah, like in the end was the principal the one that people thought was right? Everyone's like, yeah! He got him back to school! Yeah, that's odd. That just makes me think that Sean Payton hasn't seen a movie since Ferris Bueller.

That's true. When coaches start coaching, they go into a pop culture vortex. None of these coaches have seen any movies that have come out since they were 23. Yeah. No, but like, you're up. You watch more movies.

I'm hip. I'm with it. But there's a chance that the last movie Sean Payton saw in a theater was Ferris Bueller's Day off. I think that's true. I think that's true. That is a very straight.

That's a weird reference. What if he's actually been secretly comparing every player to Ferris Bueller that he's ever had because he doesn't have any other touch points? All the different characters. Yeah. Chavonte Williams is like Cam from Ferris Bueller this week. It's just like basically a rewatchable's

category. Oh my God. All right. Wait, do we need to get Kai in to do. Oh yeah. Yeah, Kai. Let's go on here.

Come on in. What's up, guys? The Kai's guys is going to be close this week, Craig. It's going to come down to the wire. I think we got the dub DK. I'm feeling good. Oh, good.

Okay. Confident. All right. Give us the rundown of last week, Kai. So last week, Hyfitz came in dead last. Tyler Algear had four points. Dontavian Wix had three points in Taysam Hill didn't play,

which is. Wicks really fucked everyone. Wicks can't catch the football. Someone's email. Alex emailed in and said, I think you should have a new Sunday category called Dantavian Ix for players you hyped up. That actually sucked. I started Wix over Ayuk this week.

So as someone who just... Why did you do that? Because I can't stand Brandon Ayuk. He upsets me because I played him for four weeks straight. And I was like, I'm done. We're running with Wix. That's not what you should do. If it's that's not what you should do.

That's not what we meant. It's fine. We didn't say that. I was taking a swing. Don't put it in the record that we said that. It's fine. whatever. I'm off of it. Craig had Trey Sermann with 15.3 points.

Josh Downs, 11.4, and Tyler Conklin with 8.5 for a total of 35.2 points. Good week. That's work, Craig. Dude, what a week. Not as good as DKs. DK had Wondale Robinson with 13. Tucker Kraft with 22.8 and still has Cream Hunt with 35.8 points.

So just, just beat you. Edge you out there. That's going to go in the cut. But there is a chance Cream Hunt could just like, I don't know, know, get nailed, fumble the ball. There is a chance he could fumble twice. Yeah, the old fumble and bench, or the fumble and hurt? Do we just put him on the bench, Kai, before this game and just like ride the dove?

That's what I would do. I feel good. Unless there's like a stack correction, I don't know, it's a little scary. No, we're going in without fear. We're going to start him. We feel good. I agree. There was a report this morning that he's the starter, so let's do this.

So does this mean I get to choose something for you guys to eat, or is that, do I need to win like multiple to get to that point or how does that? Didn't you come in last? Oh no, you came in first. Last week I still do owe you something to eat because I did lose. This is the first time I've won. Are we keeping track or is everything he wins an item? He has to order for us a quarter week when we see each other in a couple weeks.

Oh, that's fun. That's good. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get lunch. Now you get to pick our lunch orders. Cool. You get to pick our lunch orders or something. We'll share with the world on Earth. It looks like when you take us to Chipotle. Plain and dry. I had Chipotle this weekend. I switched it up. I got steak and Nice.

Nice. Yeah. And to be clear, nothing else on it? Nothing else on it. It's so funny, whenever I go to, like, a place like that and they're just like, you have to go through, it's like a subway or something like that where you go through like kind of that conveyor belt kind of thing. It's like, they always look at me weird.

Where they're like, do you sure you don't want beans? Are you sure? I'm like, yeah. Kai, don't take this the wrong way, but like if my dog is sick, that's like what I would feed my dog. I'm not taking that the wrong way at all. I take that as a compliment. I love George.

Kai is a dog. Just to settle his stomach. Dang. I missed it. Okay. You want the recap of this week? Yep. Okay.

High Fitz has Tank Bigsby, Jalen Tolbert, and Noah Fant. D.K. picked Tyrone, Tracy, Josh Downs, and K.aten. Craig has Tray sermon, Michael Wilson, and Tyler Conklin. I'm going to run it back. Let's go, D.K. Let's get a, let's get a streak going here. Can we get like a measure going that we start Flacco this week again?

a valid measure some sort. What is the, what's the current trivia standings? Current trivia standings. Craig, you're in first with six. D.K. has five and hyphids has four. And those are after the corrections. So you guys are, it's neck and neck. All right.

Good for us. Thank you, Guy. Yeah, we still have to figure it. You're going to try something when we're in L.A. too. You're going to try something. We'll do it in L.A. And then we're going to eat whatever. Yeah, the stuff that settles dogs.

We're going to take you on a food tour through Korea town. It'd be really funny if we went to Chipotle and then we eat the chicken. chicken and rice, but he just gets a totally awesome Chippoly order, and then we're like, he's equally miserable. Oh, I would be in hell. Cheese, guacamole and corn. Just I couldn't finish it. It would be impossible.

Thank you, Kai. We also got an email here from Mark. Marky, Mark, baseball. Mark emailed us that he fell down a major league baseball no hitter rabbit hole and came across a couple epic names he wanted to send our way. Oh, 1880, no hitter was thrown by Pud Galvin. is it PUD or PUDD D PUDD PUD GALV PUD GALV. I think I could have thrown a no-hitter in 1880.

How far back in time do you have to go? Yeah, before they had 17-100s, that was hit that thing. Was the mound the same distance away from the plate in 1880, or have they moved it back? I think they definitely moved it lower. It used to be higher and love Bob Gibson. I don't know. Used to be higher and lower and they changed. But same distance?

No, I think they moved it back at some point. Is it 60 feet, right? 60 feet, six inches. And then they lowered it. Now the bases are big. It's a whole thing. Pud Galvin. 1885.

No hitter by Frank Mountain. They don't name them like they used to. Frank Mountain. That sounds like a detective. I know. Frank Mountain. He's a character in the, what was it? Clark Hoggback.

There's a character named Frank Mountain. Clark, God, back, and Frank Mountain. Solving crimes. How did that work? Like, did he come through, Island. His last name was like Montaania and they're like Mountain. Mountain.

Probably. Probably. 1884, there's a catcher named Joe Crotty and there was a no hitter that he threw to Joe Crotty by a guy named Dick Burns. Dick Burns. Come on. That had to have been tongue and cheek even at that time. 1888. Adonis Terry.

Ooh. Adonis. 1890. Yeah. No hitter in 1893 by Liddell Titcombe. Oh, I've heard. about this guy. Tickcomb used to be like a common surname. Tickcombe great. Tickone. 1892, no-hitter thrown by Bumpus Jones. Bumpus Jones throwing a catcher named Farmer Vaughn. That's a Simpson's character. Farmer Vaughan. Bumpus to Farmer Vaugh. Farmers to Farmer Vaughn.

B-U-M-P-U-S? Fuck, we should do it announcer a bit where we're announcing a game with all these people. Last no-hitter here on this list. 1900. July 12th, 1900. No-hitter thrown by Noodles Han. Noodles. Noodles. That's probably the best one.

Noodles-Han. Noodles-Han. What was his real name? His name was Frank. Frank. Craig, like 39% of everyone was named Francis in the early 19th. 39. Is that right?

Or did you just like Bill Simmons that percentage? Frank Hahn and they were like, the guy loves noodles. 41 complete games in 1901. That's crazy. 41 complete games. His arm was a noodle at that point. No,

Han lived to be 80 years old. D.K., you do know that if you were a pitcher in 1900, your name would be Casadilla Kelly. Kastity Kelly. Yeah, yeah. And I would accept that.

Should we do that? Your baseball name's just like what you eat or smoke with your last name? Kastadia. Cancadia Kelly is awesome. There's a ring to it. Oh my God, that's so funny.

So Hyvitz, what would you be? What's your favorite snack? Craig, Craig, you would be popcorn horolebeck. I would. Popcorn Holbeck kind of rich. I want to start calling you popcorn. Unsurprised or isn't a guy in 1903 who his nickname is like, Popcorn Jones. That kind of actually works really well.

In February 1903, Noodles Hahn was a student at Cincinnati Veterinary College. asked how long you plan to play baseball. You replied that he would like to play a few more seasons. Southpaw, too. Oh, my God. That's so funny. All right. What's your snack?

What is my favorite? I don't know what I'd be called. What's your go-to comfort food? What's your favorite snack? Yeah. Snack? Those are different foods. Either one versus snack.

I love steak with just plain rice from Chipotle. Okay. No, I just loved, my last meal would probably be like chicken parm. Okay, no, but like, if you're just like want a snack in your pantry, What's your go-to? My last meal wouldn't be. Raspberrys?

For the record. I like raspberries? Yeah, I like, I like that. Raspberrys high fits. Yeah, because like I'll bunch of like pistachios or almonds, but they take up so much water. And honestly, a lot of very calorie dense. It's too much. I'll snack.

But right, I like snacking on raspberries or banana. Okay. Why is that weird? Is that weird? It's not weird. No, no. I guess I don't really think of fruit when somebody's like, if someone's like, what's your favorite snack?

I wasn't expecting raspberries. I don't keep that many snack. I work from home, man. I can't have good. snacks here. I know. That's a thing. A snack is like a high volume food to me and raspberries don't come off as high volume. I can't, no, they're not. I can't have high volume snacks. I live here. Yeah, yeah. I totally get that. High Fids. You can't have, I can't have like chocolate in the house or all just eat it constantly. Yeah, I guess chocolate, but chocolate high fits doesn't really have a

ring to it. Yeah, you guys kind of threw me off my normal, my normal diet because you guys sent me a huge box of cookies. I ate all of them already. And there were a lot in there. Yeah, 13. I'm going to have to go on a diet now. Honestly, now I'm coming back around. Maybe it should be Danny chicken parm hyphitz. That's pretty sweet. Chicken parm hyphids. Chicken parm hyphets sounds like he was in the, that sounds like a character from the sandlot. Yeah, it does. Chicken parm hyphids. Oh, wait, that reminds me. Wait, oh no, I just forgot again. No, what did it remind me of? Chicken parm, hyphitz, sandlot, nicknames. Uh, you know the Colorado School of Mines? Yeah. And then we also thought it was the Colorado School of Mimes.

Yeah. Well, there wasn't one. There's a South Dakota school of mines of mines. There's a South Dakota school of mines. And I saw a video, they had an 89-yard punt. They were at their own 10 and they punt it to like the one-yard line. But there's a South Dakota school of mine. 89-yard punt. The Colorado school, I know, it's crazy.

But there are way more schools of minds. Yeah, there's more than one mine school. What is their mascot? Oh, that's a good question. Because the Colorado mascot, what was it again? The ore diggers The ore diggers The ore diggers wasn't it that?

Yeah South Dakota School of Mines South Dakota It is Grubby the Minor Okay No no They're the hard rockers Oh the hard rockers

And the mascots grubby the minor Got it Yeah and the South Dakota Mines hard rocker Grubby is the minor Dude hard rockers is kind of badass Hard Rockers is pretty cool Hard Rock and Hyphitz

It'd be pretty good You can't come over here own nickname, pal. You asked me. Sorry, buddy. You like chicken parm. He wants hard rocker, hard rock and high fits. We're giving him chicken parrime.

That's like, who is the guy who was called? Oh, sloppy thirsted was the, you're super organized. Because he was really neat. Yeah. It's like how Tank Dell weighs 165 pounds. All right. Next, next thing is, this one's from, well, first of all, from Noah,

Noah wanted to know. If you guys haven't listened to Craig at the end of the Sunday show, highly recommend. Noah just emailed in Craig whispering to the guy who was asking him to be quiet in his hotel room. This doesn't make it any better, but I do have a podcast. It's the hardest I've laughed at a long time. This doesn't make it to be better, but I have a podcast.

I'm filled with shame saying this, but. It's one percent better than me just doing this for fun. At least something, at least your wires are plugged in, Craig. There's somebody at the other end. Practicing. Ryan, last one from Ryan, Ryan, Ryan emailed in last episode, we talked about Stacey's mom Fountains of Wayne. Ryan says, I, I'm a little younger than D.K.

so like most people, I only knew about Fountains of Wayne through Stacey's mom. I was blown away to find out more about the singer Adam Schlesinger. Schlesinger, I don't know to pronounce it, but he's a multiple time Emmy and Grammy Award winner for songwriting. He's been nominated for Tony, Golden Globe, and Academy Awards. He wrote the main song from that thing you do,

which I think is one of the best songs ever written for a movie, obviously along with Scott I doesn't know. And he was also in a side band that at one point was with one of the Hansen brothers. And he's a cousin of the actor John Bernthal and unfortunately, tragically died of COVID early on in the pandemic,

but for his band being mostly known as a one-hit wonder, he truly had a remarkable career. Wow. Yeah. Didn't know any of that. Very cool. Cousins with John Bernthal.

Interesting. Yeah. It's crazy. Nominated for Tony Golden Globe and Academy Award is one of the harder things you can do. Yeah.

Incredible. Almost an Egot. That's crazy. What's his name again? Adam Schlesinger. Adam Schlesinger. Schlesinger. Okay.

Cool. Fountains of Wayne. Shouts out. Make the movie. There we go. Boom. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Karek.

Thank you, for emailings at Rear Fantasy Football. Gmail.com, send us fantasy courts. And follow us on Instagram and TikTok, ringer fantasy football. Thank you, Carl Suckeye for producing this episode. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Kira.

Thank you, everyone for help behind the scenes. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Hanson. You guys just nod. Mbop. It's a hard song to sing. Hey, that was like, you got the Mbop right.

It only took 10,000 tries. You didn't say Mbop. I know. I had to think about it, though. That was the pause. It is kind of the hardest song to like describe to somebody. They're like, how does Mbop go? It's like, ah.

Mbop. Dibba da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. And they're like, no, but what are the lyrics? And you're like, those are the lyrics. They have a brewery. Should we bring them on the show? It's like in the Midwest, right? Where is it?

If they probably want to plug their beer. Like Oklahoma or something? Yeah. I think we could get them. And I'll just be like, I didn't know about your stuff. Yeah, you'll be in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Yeah, yeah.

Do you guys like my chemical romance? They probably do. The funny thing is, I do like my chemical romance. Yeah, I wasn't saying they were a bad band. Or that that song is bad teenage. I just never heard of it. I don't know. I don't know.

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