The Ringer NFL Show - Dennis Allen Fired, Week 10 Waivers, and Booger Eaters Anonymous

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

The guys react to the Saints firing head coach Dennis Allen and the Raiders cleaning house (except for Antonio Pierce) (3:29). Next, SHOWDOWN TIME! Must-add players at each position ahead of Week 10 (14:08). Plus, emails (39:32)! RB: Braelon Allen (Jets), Trey Benson (Cardinals), and Blake Corum (Rams) (14:08) WR: Xavier Legette (Panthers), Ray-Ray McCloud III (Falcons), and Quentin Johnston (Chargers) (21:03) TE: Taysom Hill (Saints), Mike Gesicki (Bengals), and Hunter Henry (Patriots) (29:28) QB: Drake Maye (Patriots), Daniel Jones (Giants), and Matthew Stafford (Rams) (34:56) D/ST: Chicago Bears, New York Giants, and Atlanta Falcons (36:46) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up, everybody. Chris Vernon here and welcome to a new season of the NBA and the mismatch. And huge welcome as well to my new co-host, Dave Jacoby. I can't wait to link with you twice a week every Tuesday and Friday right here on the mismatch to break down everything that's happening in the league. Who's playing well, who we loved, who we loathed, trade rumors, team dysfunction. We've got you covered right here. So follow us, subscribe and hit us with those five-star ratings on Spotify or wherever you get you. your podcast. And also don't forget to follow us on social media. That's at Ringer NBA. And check out the full mismatch episodes with the two handsomest podcasters in the history

of podcasting, right on the Ringer NBA YouTube channel. Football show, my name is Danny Hyfordson. And I am joined by Danny Kelly and Kirk Worldbecker. Today we are going over all the must add players after week nine. Here's how it works. We're all going to go position by position. We're going to give our number one player at that position we'd like to add. And then if we have the same player, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker and then over wins the trivia tiebreaker. We'll get that player and the loser. We'll have to get someone else. It is not that complicated. I promise you'll figure it out as we go along.

Everyone listening, emails. Trivia questions at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Have to be a number so we can play closest to the pin when we inevitably get it wrong, whether it's about how big the bulge is in the battle the bulge or how much of cloud weighs or Jupiter's made a gas, whatever. A name, a year, no, not a name, a year, a date, an amount, whatever. Also, a lot of emails in this one.

We're going to get to stuff. We're going to get to all the trivia and waivers for everything. Because, you know, Tuesday night, I don't know what else you guys get going on on Tuesday. Just waiver priority is basically the biggest thing. everyone has going on on Tuesday. Can't think of anything else? No. I mean, Craig, you're not busy, right?

No, I'm making homemade Bolognais to sit down and enjoy the election. Lovely. There you go. Yeah. So, also, we will be, if anyone wants to watch something other than the news all night, we will be on live on YouTube and the ringer NFL YouTube this week. Competing against the election? We'll see. Yeah, we'll counter-program the entire U.S. election. Yeah, you never know. Do you guys want to play the song game tomorrow?

Or do you want to do that? We could do the song. Can you hear a song in one second? second. We could do that tomorrow night. That would be fun. We'll do that. That'll be like a little fun. We should go live all night, really. Let's just go live at 345 and stay live. We'll get a big screen. Until the election is decided. So maybe perhaps a week. For like a full week. Yeah. We'll do that on. If anyone who is interested, we're going to do that game tomorrow where you play the song for one second, see if we can get it. So yeah, we're going to go through. We also have a crazy, we're going to get to a bunch of news here in a moment, but also I have to say there's a lot of booger eating emails. We asked in the Sunday show for people who, because you saw who is it. More than I would have thought.

Aaron Rogers eat the booger and then the other guy in Sunday football ate the booger. And we were like, what's with the booger eating? And we asked for if anyone wanted to anonymously share. No, I'll tell you later. That's a tributary question. Oh, that's a own trivia question. Yeah. I, we asked, make the case for why do you eat your boogers and we'll keep you anonymous.

Yeah, we're testing a new podcast called Make the Case. Make the case. And so anyway, stick around if you want to hear why people do that. A lot of people share. Thank you everyone email the swinger fantasy football Gmail. I mean it's because they like to taste, right?

It's a lot There's a very diverse range of answers here. It's like our personal censor poll. Okay. Before we get to news, sorry no, before we get to waivers, a little news.

Saints fired Dennis Allen, head coach at the Saints. Saints started 2 at 0, lost seven straight. Dennis Allen batted his job. Players hated him. You can't lose to the Panthers. No.

I think that's the final straw. Is that the rule? Yeah, if you lose the Panthers, you're fired. I think that's like a fair rule. And then if every year, there should be one team.

If you lose to that team, you're fired. And it's the Panthers this year in 2024. Dickey, like that rule? Yeah, I love that rule. I was just thinking how Dennis Allen had, he just had such a weird year. He took this really rigid stance on just being extremely mean to his players

in every press conference. Like, you don't have to do that for any reason. Like, you very rarely see coaches do that for their players. Like, for instance, Kendrae Miller. Just every time Kendra Miller came up, sometimes he would just bring up Kendrae Miller out of the blue, like unprompted and talk about how bad he was and how he's always hurt and he's not you know like it was just like a very bizarre thing i just remember thinking this early in the year like and and every

and you they post the video and like you read the comments below the video and it was like everyone was like this guy fucking sucks like everyone hates him you know how politicians whenever they get asked a question can just like spin it back towards whatever issue they want to actually talk about it's just like anything you ask dennis allen he could figure out a way to just We've that back to Kendra Miller. Go frogs. I also, two other things I have to note here. The new interim head coach of the New Orleans Saints is Darren Rizzie.

The Rizzler? The Rizzler, who I have never heard of him in my entire life. Not even a phantom of a doubt. He is 54 years old. The photo they have on him, he looks like this photo was taken 15 years ago. He looks like 35. Darren Rizzler? No.

He's the Rizler. They hired the Rizler to coach the Saints. There's too much Riz in my life right now. You're going to see Baby Gronk beef with the Rizler? You see that? That was real thirsty for Baby Grunk. I'm going to avoid that and get back to real football. Do you guys think of the Saints are the worst team to be the head coach of right now in the NFL?

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe worse than Carolina. I think so. I think it's underrated how bad this. I think it's hard to even explain how bad the situation the Saints are in for the next three years. The Saints are in a death spiral. Like I wasn't being dramatic about that.

Like their financial situation without getting into like the basically the NFL salary cap is accounting and at the risk of I don't want to get too deep into the accounting. And if you guys have questions, like I'll do my best to fucking answer. I'm not a forensic scientist. But like the best I can say is they can't get rid of any of their players. Like there are four players than to get rid of this offseason. They can try to trade Derek Carr. They're probably going to trade Marshall and Latimore, if they're smart this week before the trade deadline tomorrow and Tuesday.

They're probably going to cut Cam Jordan the defensive end, but cut Jamal Williams. And Ryan Ramzick, the right tackle is not playing this season, is probably going to retire. They can't get rid of their other players. They literally have basically gone to all the players in the roster, and they have to basically borrow against their contracts. It's the only way they can get under the cap.

But when you borrow against the contract, you can't rid of the player, all that's sake. They have to keep all these players. can draft, that's it. They can't make cuts, so it's a rebuild, but you can't actually do anything other than get rid of the people who are too old to play football. So it's the craziest situation ever.

It's basically, no one can leave. It's like the bus. How long are they stuck with Derek Carr for? I think they're going to have to trade them in some of the money. He's currently 50 million guaranteed to left to even extend him, which seems crazy. Dude, I don't, Derek Car, line. I don't know.

Like, if they can't offload him, it's kind of a mess. But the same situation is a catastrophe. I think Taysam Hill's dead cap next year is like $20 million. They're going to have to, that's the point, though, is basically you have to, instead of cutting a player and not paying them, the other thing is to pay them for longer and extend the contract so you can punt the money into the future, which the Saints have been doing for 12 years. But then you have to keep them for the future. You can't get rid of them if you punt to the money. Tassum Hill, 35. They're going to have to extend Taysam Hill's contract again.

Like, they're going to have to extend all these people. Oh, Austin just texted us that they could frame Derek Carr for the murder of Chris Olive. Not really framed. I don't think they need to frame him. Yeah, that's true. It's on video. Yeah, that's good. Okay, so yeah, I don't, we don't have to go too much into it.

That's what the office he said for. I feel like we don't have to parse the accounting. But the Saints are fucked. Darren Rizzing, we'll see if the Rizzler can help him. It's going to be interesting if they have the first pick in the draft and they're going to maybe try to offload Derek Carr somewhere, eat some of his salary and then take a shitty quarterback to come in and have a terrible career. That won't happen because the Giants are going to get the first pick in the draft. The Giants will have that correct.

Right. So one of you will get a shitty quarterback to have a terrible career. Yeah. You just know it. Like you can feel it heading in. You're like whoever the Saints draft with the third pick. It's not going to work. I feel the same way but the Giants.

Yeah. Speaking of another team that might have the first pick in the draft. The Raiders fired everyone except Antonio Pierce. I've never seen anything like this. Did Antonio Pierce fire all these people then? I assume. Antonio Pierce. Or was it coming from above?

No, he did it. He said 100% his decision. So Antonio Pierce, they coach fired. the offensive coordinator, Luke Getzzi, and the quarterback coach, Rich Skangarello, and the offensive line coach, James Craig, RIP to a Craig.

And to celebrate, he's not going to have anybody practice this week with all of the new coaches that have been promoted. I mean, just kneecapping a quarterback, O-line coach, and the offense quarter, that feels like everyone

who is planning every element of the offense. I think they're going to bring in, I think the only thing that makes this a little less nuts. I think Joe Philbin, who is a coach forever in the NFL, as like an advisor, and so he could step in, and he's been an offensive line coach

and a coordinator, so maybe he just would step in. But it's kind of crazy to be doing this weekend and just like everyone who's been running my offense. Actually, I hate them. There's a lot. I feel like there's like five,

like true unmitigated disasters currently going on in the NFL right now. It's like, well, Carolina, New Orleans, the Raiders, there's a lot of, of terrible situations right now. Wouldn't you say? We're halfway through the season.

And there are three to four, like, you know, Marvin Lewis is on the Raider staff as well Austin said is that right is Marvin Lewis still cooking getting that consultant you know little fee Is Tom Cable? There are a ton of teams that are just Huge Jackson, what's he doing?

Oh dude but the well I'm not going on there but the jets are a catastrophe You guys are objective I'm not Are the jets or giants a bigger catastrophe? Jets. Because I think you've got to throw the jets in with this too It's like the Jets have less wins than they did with Zach Wilson. The Jets were supposed to be good.

The Giants have been bad for them. The Jets are worse than they were as Zach Wilson last year. Yeah. So you have jets catastrophe. If you have to make the catastrophe top five, it's maybe the jets are at one or two. You got the Saints, Carolina, the Raiders. Who else is there? Are the Giants top five?

The Browns? Yeah, the Giants are probably maybe like this seventh war situation, which is kind of insane to think about. There's a lot of the Jags. The Jags are terrible. Jags are catastrophe. They have Lawrence, though, and I don't care how bad Lawrence has been. He's an NFL quarterback.

Like, at least you have an answer there. No, they kind of suck, though. That's pretty bad, actually. I mean, you could argue that what's going on in Miami has been a little bit of a catastrophe this year. Yeah. So, anyway, but I think the Raiders are right there with the Saints in terms of just taking the cake. Dallas. There's a lot of stuff.

Yeah, Dallas is a catastrophe. Should we just rank catastrophes tomorrow? I mean, like, you could argue the Niners in terms of expectation. You know that Jim Harba? Who's got it better than us? Should we do a who's got it worse than us? Who's got it worse than us? Nobody.

That's pretty funny, actually. Who's got it worse than us? Maybe we do that power out more. Who's got a worse than us power out? We should actually just figure out who's not a catastrophe. There's less teams. Okay, so the Raiders suck. The only thing I want to mention,

Dak Prescott, you mentioned the Cowboys, out multiple weeks with a hamstring injury per Ian Rappap Report, NCDLAMs a week to week. And again, when someone's week to week on a Monday, I feel like that means they won't play this week generally. And CD came back in that game called a pass and he got lightly, like, touched, like, glanced. On a touchdown, right?

Doubled over in pain. Yeah. So, yeah. But don't worry, Zeeke's coming back. I mean, just to say, the Cowboys were the top-heavyest team in the league, but they had DAC, CD, and now they don't have DAC, or Michael Parsons, and maybe don't have CD. Like, frankly, like, without those three people,

this is one of the worst rosters in the entire NFL. Micah might be back this week, but unless they play in a quarterback, I don't know if that's going to help. dude also what did you guys make if Micah Parsons leaving Dak off his list of top quarterbacks did you think that was clipped and like if you actually got the full context he would be like I'm not counting Dak or do you think he actually forgot Dak as a top six quarterbacks?

Did you see that Micah said that this that game against the Falcons was the game of the year for the Falcons and just a game of the week for the Cowboys that was like his diss leading into that game on his podcast. I feel like if you're injured in the NFL you shouldn't be podcasting. You should be recovering from your injury. Also the Falcons literally played the Chiefs at home this year, didn't they? Yeah. There's just a crazy thing to say for a team that's first in the division to say that's the game of the year for them and year three and four and it's not a game of the year for you. Interesting choice. I think you forget sometimes players

like fans also have internet brain rot like they're all you know what I mean they're also just they have no sense of reality it's like a requirement yeah they're little bit of choices football at home yeah so Dax's hurt CEDY's hurt Michael Parsons might be back we mentioned McCaffrey

McCaffrey might be back now there is a shot that McCaffrey will be playing this week for the first time this season Week 10 just in time for your ninth place team to get into eighth place does it feel a little bit I know that they lost Ayyuk for the year, but they're coming out of the buy.

McCaffrey might be coming back. I think Joanne Jennings is going to play. They obviously still have Debo and George Kittle. Are the Niners a bit of a buy low right now for you guys? Because I actually think they kind of are for me. Yeah, yeah. I know that the vibes have been terrible, but the Niners schedule and their health

is actually moving in the right direction right now. I feel like by definition, no, because now everyone knows McCaffrey's coming back. And so if you wanted, like, in terms of like pricing and like a, like, I don't know. I feel like the window to get Christian McCaffrey in fantasy was September and October. I'm not really saying a lilo for him.

I'm more mean for the team for like the NFL. I feel like now that there is news that McCaffrey's coming back in terms of like if you're going to bet on the Niners to make the playoffs, that probably is like kind of cool. I think everyone's kind of having that idea right now. I'm also curious what he's going to look like. Is he going to be good? Is he going to be explosive? How much is it going to play?

Did he lose weight? Got a weird new look? Yeah, weird new look. This might as well go right into running back. I feel like before you can give our number one running back. Where are you on like Isaac Gore-Rend? And like, because Jordan Mason's got a banked up shoulder, but he had a buy week. Christian McCaffrey's coming back.

Do you like want Isaac Wurando on a roster in like a 12 team league? He would be my first choice this week just because there every other choice at the running back spot on the waivers is a handcuff option essentially. And I think Garando has the option. He could potentially be the start of this week if it takes him a little longer to get CMSC back if he has any sort of, you know, if he injures it or pulls it or something. even if they just have to pull him back a little bit and not really get him going right away, Garendo could have some value in the short term. So Grendo was going to be my first choice

just because I don't trust the 49ers at all to like, I don't know how they're going to manage this thing. Like maybe they'll bring CMC back and he'll play 12 snaps. Who knows? So he would be my first choice and just to wait and see how this whole CMC thing goes. Remember, we didn't know anything about CMC essentially

not playing until Monday, night, like an hour before there was a cathetery until it wasn't. Yeah. So I just don't trust the 49ers. They're typically really good at keeping everything under wraps. And you know, right now they're saying that it's looking like he's coming back for week 10, but I would just

like want to see that with my eyes before I bank on it, you know? Craig, is Isaac Gorando the running back for the Niners this year, number one rate we've read for this week? Yeah, I mean, you obviously got to pay attention to what happens this week. I mean, if we don't really know what's going on with Jordan Mason, a week ago they said he was day to day. So

if he practices in full today, Jordan Mason, maybe I would move away from Gwendo, but right now I'm saying, I'm starting Jordan Mason ever again. I just have like two straight weeks or three straight weeks or whatever where he just kept re-injuring his shoulder. I'm like, dude, just stop playing.

Wait until your shoulder gets better. Can't start him. The only other guy, I mean, you're so right. It's all, I mean, this has been handcuffed city for like three straight weeks here for running backs. Fraylin Allen is the only guy who's like both a handcuff and also a guy who kind of plays, he's the only one I'd be like,

if you don't want to do the whole Niners running back situation, Braylon Allen is still a guy who's under 40% rostered in leagues. I'm like, is playing depending on kind of the matchup and the vibes and how shitty Breece Hall is playing in a particular game. I agree. I think Tyler Al Jir is the other guy, the running back for the Falcons, but frankly,

he's probably rostered in too many leagues to really count for this exercise. So, I mean, I just want to shut them out because they're playing the freaking Saints this week. And we'll see if the Saints, I guess the Saints won't quit now because Dennis Allen got fired. Ding Don, the Witch is dead. but so I guess if we take Tyler Elger out of it who I'd take over Braylon Allen

and these other guys because frankly the Falcons offense is better than the Jets. I don't really trust Trey Benson for the Cardinals. I feel like he came in because James Connor like did a freaking double reverse and landed on his face and then like he plays in a loss. That's all he does. Yeah, exactly. I don't trust Trey Benson. Honestly, it's another

handcuff just if you're going to make the playoffs and you just want the potential for running back to pop in December. It's still Blake Corum for the Rams where it just again, Kiron Williams has multiple foot and ankle injuries every season he's played and he's been healthy right now

and again it's just I feel every time Tim Robinson like you gotta make money on this and I feel I'm shorting like a very lovable player but Blake Corum's the guy where it's like if Cardin Williams got hurt it would be very easy to see Blake Gorham just being like a top five running back

for like the month of December so yeah but running back overall it's just a weird it's stashed there's nothing really going on right now at the business we've been talking about so is the trivia for Grendo are we doing it for Braylin I don't even want

Do I get Algeria or see two, we see two rostered? I'll take Braylon Allen then. Grendo, he's third on the Niners' depth chart right now. I'm kind of like, I don't want him on my deal. I would take Braylin. Let's do Braylin. Let's do Braylin. I think, yeah.

All right. I'm always going to give this a full-throated showdown time because running back is a sleek right now. Half-ass it. Yeah. All right. It is the Brailin-Alan Allen, who is better than Breeze Hall. Showdown time.

Can we get a Gog update? Does anyone follow it up on the gong? No, no one's followed up on the gong. Oh, shit. Well, I better do it. Get me a gong for Christmas, okay? No, we can get a gong for free. Someone offered to give us a gong. How many gongs do you think we can get?

How many of our listeners can provide us with a gong? Should we do a poll? Can you get a gong? Do you have a gong that you want to give to us? Do you think we get like eight gongs? It would be nice if all three of us had a gong. I think you'll be surprised. All right, this one is from Aaron.

Aaron. Aaron. You guys, so we were talking on the Sunday show about, Craig mentioned how Anthony Richardson, you know, he came off the field because he was tired, and then they benched him, and then they cut to him on Sunday football, and he was yawning.

Yeah. To which D.K. unveiled his theory that actually, I feel like they saved that shot for the right moment, and that's not live. Yep. So Aaron writes, your guys points on saving quote unquote shots was actually not too far off it's and he he

Aaron has a job that he would know. Aaron says it's fairly common practice in the TV truck for replay operators to save or sit on shots that the producer wants and then you can fake in I knew it if live shot if it's relevant to what the commentators are talking about i.e. two former teammates for uniting a coach getting upset on the sideline, etc. a bunch of stuff you end up seeing on your screen is definitely the product of good planning and coordination by folks in the TV truck, the beauty of TV magic. And so as a follow-up for trivia, some cursory research looks like the average NFL game is

between 40 to 70 cameras on any given Sunday. How many total cameras were available in the Super Bowl 58 broadcast this year? So how many TVs did they bring to this? How many cameras did they have on at the Super Bowl for the television network? And you're saying that the average NFL game has 40 to 70? Yes. Interesting. Okay.

Three, two, one. One, forty, thirty. Ah, damn it. I got one. What you? I said one thirty. You said one forty?

Yeah. I said one fifty and I really have to thread the needle here. You got fucked. Holy cow. Cow's brutal. Never know. The answer is 165. Yes.

All right, D.K. You get, we did, Braylon Allen, who he didn't even want. Congrats. No, that's like. Yeah, I'll take it. Craig, you get whoever. I'll take Trey Benson.

Okay, I'll take Blake Orham. Okay. Who's not going to play while this week. After all that, none of us a stash. Sure, I don't know. It's all weird. I guess you take you really need someone for this week. Sure, take Isaac Gorrondo.

He's barely going to play, probably. Good, Godspeed. Receiver's a little more fun. Receiver's a little more fun. I mean, I think the number one guy we would all take if he's available, still is Cedric Tillman for the Browns. I feel like he's probably been added in your league so we can take him out of this, but for the purpose, this exercise.

They're also on by. Yeah, we can take him out of this. But he's still worth out of it. It doesn't matter, though. Like, you should have Stetard Selman. Like, he, James is going to be a setterianian star, like, actually. Yeah. So in that case, my guy's Xavier Liget for the Panthers, because you know what?

Sparks Joy is fun to play. He's going to be the number one procedure for the Panthers. Price looked better. It's Spurgis. It's Burgus. He also said he's allergic. It's so good. Wait, does, uh, does Jwan Jennings

count for this because if he's still out there for people, I think he's worth picking up as well. Yeah, I don't think he counts, but he's good. It's good to mention him at the top. He's about 50% rostered, but yes, Jeff Juan Jennings is available. I do think he's going to play this week. I agree with Leggett then, or Legette. I do too. Touchdowns back-to-back week. She's playing a ton now, like 90% of snaps. Looks good. He had that one, the one play where Bryce Young actually dropped a perfect ball in his lap and then the quarterback, like, ripped it out from it and intercepted it. It was pretty crazy regardless.

It's what fantasy football's for. He's viral every week with the accent. Like, come on. It's fun. At Xavier Legate. I also think he'll actually get a lot of the stamps. All right. So there you go. Showdown time, Craig. It is the Aspergus showdown

time. Okay. This one is from Danny. Oh, nice. Almost talked over the gone. This one's from Danny Hyphitz. Okay. I can't wait. So we talked yesterday again about people eating boogers and we asked people if you eat boogers, not like you used to when you were a kid, but you currently eat boogers.

Yeah, an active booger eater. Active booger eater. If you're a card carrying booger eater. Make the case and explain why. I would like you two to guess how many people emailed our show admitting that they do it currently. And you're just taking yourself out of this? I mean, obviously I know because I counted. Yeah.

So for the content, you are taking yourself out of the I'll just be third. I don't care. We have to do this. You're a man of the people. You really are. Okay. God.

I have a number in my head. Same. All right. Three, two, one. 31. We both guessed pretty high, I feel like. Did you go through the email, D.K.? No.

Oh, is it 31? It's fucking 31. Really? Get out of here. Are you kidding? It just came to me. I would think you were cheating, but there's... Midnight last night was searching through and counting all of the booger-eatery...

No, because I refreshed it as of 10 minutes ago. There's zero... I actually would accuse you of cheating if there's zero chance you do that I was doing that. No, I... 31, which I think that we've uncovered something like Anthrop a lot. We created like booger-eating AA. Like, everyone admit it was like very... People really want to get this...

It's like... Whatever. Were we talking about fantasy confession? People want to get things off their chest. It was a confessional. I think it was for a lot of people. It's the first time that ever written any of this down. Now we have a whole lot of compromising information on you, by the way.

No, it stopped. No, it's a safe space. I would never use that. It's completely anonymous. You can bear your soul to us. We can learn about our listeners. We can learn about each other. It's a safe space.

Should we get to tight ends or should I just read all the booger eating emails right now? I want to kind of really dig into the booger eating things So I say let's finish up receiver So DK gets Liget I get to pick next year By the way, real quick before Craig picks Liget did injure his hand Or wrist in this last game

But he came back and played And all indications right now For what we know is that he should be okay But just like keep an eye on it Before Tuesday night or whatever If we find out more about the wrist thing Obviously then I resent this choice But yeah

Heart of a Warrior I have an idea for tight end Mike Gisicki, obviously, because I talked shit about him last week, and he was the number one tight end this week, and Jermaine Burton refuses to play for the Bengals. So Mike Kosicki is all our number one, and then after him, I take Deasem Hill. Are we all on the same page there?

Wait, Craig didn't get to pick his receiver. We didn't finish receiver. Sorry, I was so excited about the boogers. You really are. I'm going to go with Ray Ray McLeod for the Falcons. He's kind of passing every game this year. He plays a ton of snaps. He's like their slot guy.

He's actually been good. 32 catches on the year. Drake London hip injury might not play this week. I don't think this is going to make Ray Ray Ray play more. I just think it'll get Ray Ray more targets. They're playing the Saints. So he's been involved since day one. They like Ray Ray Ray and Mooney being like legit fantasy options for the Falcons.

What a world. Oh, my, yeah. I mean, to the Ray Ray point, I think that's fair. I'm surprised you to go Quentin Johnson for the Chargers who all scoop, who again, he had another, you know, he had a long touchdown in this game. Another four catches. I think Ladd is still number one. And of course, Josh Palmer's like the go-to-v-v-old-out receivers.

But I think Quinn Johnson's like, fine. Like, he's a serviceable fantasy option. Like, I think he has the big play. He's just incredibly reliant on the big play and they're playing the Titans. I like Ray Ray because he just like has a more guaranteed volume. I'm increasingly like fine with boom bust players. I'm increasingly, I've changed my mind on that. I think it's actually like it's, this is a different conversation for the off season.

But I think that the, I think that consistency and getting nine points is extremely overrated. It depends what you want. If your team is volatile or if like, if you're already in first place and you're like, I just don't want a guy to put up zero. The rest of my team is good. I need nine, ten points. I understand playing Ray Ray. If you're like,

I'm in desperation mode, I need to pop. Yeah. I understand Quinn Johnson. Yeah. I think the thing, we'll talk about this all offseason, go to literally any of your leagues

and go to any week and just scroll through the scores. Almost none of them are close. Like most fantasy matchups are blowouts. And like the ones that are really close stick in your head, but if you actually go through your schedule, there are every week, just look at all the matchups in your league.

The ones that are under 10 points, there's just as many, if not more, blowouts every single week. And I'm like, you actually need guys who could explode. And if people can't do that, I don't want them on my team. That feels incredibly anecdotal. It's not.

It's actually deep. No, it's not anecdotal. It's actually like deeply, it's more research than you could imagine. That sounds like man on the street reporting right there. Every single fantasy football team in history, every year is different. Every matchup is different across every fantasy. Like, how can you know if you know if it's about, it's if you look at like platform data, if you can actually just look up like margins.

You can actually look up league margins in certain platforms. You can just look it up. And most all games are brought. This is people much smarter than me who have come. Where did you read that? Adam Harsstadt, who's like the smartest fantasy person ever. He's like Fantasy Yoda. And I've been interested in this.

Okay. And you're saying you'd rather, you either want to win by a lot or lose by a lot is essentially what you're saying. You need people who can hit a high ceiling because you want to stay. I've been basically in the scheme of a weekly matchup, someone who could hit five to nine, if you had five points, oh, four points is a failure.

nine, they almost got double digit. That doesn't matter. Like the five points doesn't matter. Like that really is what it comes down to. Like you need someone who might be able to hit you like 25 points. Okay. That's interesting. I don't really know how I feel about that.

We'll talk about it more when it's not in the middle of week nine. Because it sucks when you have Alec Pearson. He has 0.8 points in the game. It does, but he's the perfect example. But someone who can get you 25 points is actually better. Yeah. Quinn Johnson's last two games, three and one. No one's going out on a limb here.

for Nick Westbrook Aquine? Nope. Keep the streak alive. I also go kind of like Noah Brown on Washington. Sneaky been very good all year. If you're really desperate, Jalen Tolbert, the number one receiver for the Chiefs, maybe,

or I guess Brandon Cooks may be coming back. No, as a rule, anyone who's 30 and looked washed before they knee injury and then have, he had an arthroscopic knee procedure that, I don't know if it became infected, or there was some issue with the surgery itself. supposed to take a week or two and then he's now

mid out a month like the idea that he would come back and look better stretches the imagination to me Tolbert's another guy who's been like pretty solid

for a lot of the year I would take toll I like the Tolbert part DK but we don't know who the quarterback is going to be is it going to be Rush or is it going to be

Rush? Probably Cooper Rush. I should just play Tray Lance I know he's not very good but it would be more interesting

to me personally tight ends Tazam Hill Mike Kisicki? Uh, yeah, he's shit. Mike Kisicki's number one

Tide end What happens? What's happening with T. Higgins? How close is T. Higgins? He's probably not that close, right? I think he's close. I'm going to believe he's close. But, you know, his quad is still throbbing.

But a lot of people emailed in when you were like, what's with a quad injury? And people were like, your leg physically can't move. You can't get out of a chair. I'm just saying, I'm not, obviously like he's an NFL player. And if he has an injury and can't play, I believe that. I'm just saying that when I hear quad, I'm like, really? It's a quad moves your femur back is what. I learned from reading all the angry emails I spared you from.

But basically, quad moves, it enables your leg to move. Yeah, again, I'm not claiming that any athlete is faking an injury. No, no, you just called them being a bitch. Yeah, I was. Yeah. When I hear quad, you don't hear a lot about a lot of quad injuries in everyday life. Maybe that's because we're not, you know, in a collision sport as our job. But, yeah.

Well, podcasting is pretty physical. Yeah, sometimes. It's grueling. It's demanding. I bang my leg on the chair as I get out of my desk. Okay. But, but, I think, are you taking someone other than Mike Kisiki, who had 29 points this week?

I mean, Taysam Hill. Goal line quarterback for the same. It would be my other choice, yes. I think he's like, especially with the injuries that they have, they're like going to be using Taysom Hill quite a bit, I think, going forward. So it just depends on who you, like, I think Mike Kiskeye has a higher ceiling this week if T. Higgins is out. Otherwise, I would take Taysom Hill.

Yeah, I mean, I agree. I mean, literally Derek Carr is the most abominable quarterback inside the red zone. And maybe my entire career covering the NFL, like, no one is more consistently bad inside the red zone. Every fan base hates him. And Taysam Hill is so good as like just running these, you know, plays where 10 men can block and just, you know, basically just sweeps. Yeah, he's going to, he's going to throw, he's going to catch it. He's going to run inside the red zone. So he's basically like a goal on running back at Tite end.

So, yeah, I like Taysam. Yeah. Tayson. All right. Taysom Hill. It is the Taysom Hill. Showdown time. Taysom is so back.

Taysam might be like a top six tied end the rest of the season. Yeah. Feels like we've done a lot of Taysom Hills this year. But this time it actually feels real. I feel like half of those were kind of bit. It's going to take. It feels legitimate.

Tase him real. All right. This one's from Alex. Alex. In honor of RFK Jr. Lex. Yeah. In honor of RFK Jr., who as we mentioned,

His daughter gave an interview where she talked about how her dad, RRFKid Jr., cut the head off of a dead beached whale and tied it to the top of the car. Wait, was that real? Yeah. It was. And if you, yeah, there's literally, I mean, she describes it in an interview. And people could quibble with less that, but she says it. He's transporting a lot of dead animals.

And it's from 12 years ago. That's two more dead animals than I've ever transported in my car. So, Alex asks, in honor of RFKJUner, approximately how much does the skull of a humpback whale weigh? Oh, damn. A humpback whale? I gave my answer already. I'll spare you guys to not anchor you, but... The skull.

The skull. Which is a whole other question of where does the head of a whale begin and end? That's a whole other question. Okay. You already gave your answer, right? I'm afraid I'm going to guess... No, I don't want to say anything. Are you ready, Craig?

How long is a humpback whale, like fucking 50 feet long? Or beneath a fish big? what's this guy's deal? Yeah, Craig. You can't think about it too much. Right. Okay. Three, two, one.

Ten thousand pounds. Wow. I said 400 pounds. I said 500 pounds? Yeah, that was what I went with. You said 10,000 pounds? Yeah. I said 500.

Yeah. I guess bones are light. No, bones are not light. I will say my friend is a, she's in resident. 400 seems insane. to me. A humpback whale must weigh 100,000 pounds. How much is a fucking whale way? My friend's in residency

and she's in the orthopedic part of residency where they're doing surgeries. He just scoffed me saying 100,000. How much is a humpback fucking whale mate? That's a high number. But the, anyway, she's telling me bones are soft. 56,000 pounds. That's not that much crazy. Anyway, the answer is 1,300 pounds. Nice.

Did I go 3 for 3 today? You did. Ooh, make it up ground. You're a burger eater. Yeah, hell yeah. Dude, a mature humpback whale can weigh 80,000 pounds, Hyphids. So eat that. Oh, my God. Still high.

Okay, so, D.K., you got Taseem Hill. Yeah. Second straight week, by the way. I'll take Mike Gisicki, which feels appropriate. Craig. Hunter Henry. Yeah. Every single week, it works.

I guess he's kind of the opposite. If he's the guy Hyphitz doesn't like, because he just gets you like nine points every week. I've taken Hunter Henry a bunch of times this year. I know. We're just like regurgitating the same like five guys every fucking week. That's how Weaver's works, man. It's like that would be it this time of year.

Hunter Henry literally nine points last week. Stud. All right. Just streaming quarterbacks. You mentioned Drake Mae DK. I mean, he's playing again. He's running again.

Eight carries for 95 yards. I thought that was a typo when I first saw it. Actually, now I want to think about it. I want to double check. That is what he did, right? It just every time I say that it like stretch. as the imagination.

Wait, who are you talking about, Daniel Jones? Drake May, yeah, he had eight carries from 95 yards last week, which is insane. Drake May is like,

he's scrambling at an extremely high rate. Yeah, so Drake May, I think is a really good one. And also Daniel Jones, who sucks, but he did truck a defender, two defenders,

actually, it was really cool and he ran out of that. Did that make you decide that you want to keep him long term, actually? I just have to, he stopped embarrassing me for like five seconds.

Imagine if you guys get a couple wins, though, that would be really fun, kind of a great few weeks you could kind of get behind. pick things up, you know, emotionally on the season. That'd be cool.

You guys should get a couple wins. You never know. You're Steelers' ass just out here winning nine games every year. You're playing Carolina this week. It's a great opportunity to get a win. Turn things around for the season. You've never had to root for like a bad team. I mean, Duck Hodges was our quarterback.

And you still won nine fucking games, didn't you? Duck Hodges, I forgot about that game. I would argue it's worse to be stuck in 500 purgatory than to have the hope that you could get a generational quarterback in the draft every year. So you're saying you do want boom or busts as a concept. Yeah, I mean, I'm having fun right now, but I'm like, am I stoked with Justin Fields and Russ long term?

Or do I want to like try to get, you know, Arch Manning? Probably Arch Manning. He's a giant. Which you could get if you just keep losing games. Jesus. All right. So yeah, Daniel Jones, Rickman, and then also, I guess Matt Stafford.

I mean, you know, Pooka won't be ejected this week, probably. Cooper Cup. Hobbled Herbert. Hobbled Herbert. Habled Herbert. defenses if you need a defense the bear's defense is playing the patriots i do i know the bear's defense has had a rough go and they're probably borderline going to quit soon but the patriots suck and drake may's still throw in picks and he had two interceptions last week against the titans i think the bear's defense

in theory is better than the titans so i bear's defense is sell giant's defense playing the panthers and brys young giant's defense is good giant's defense versus the panthers i think that's an easy one um and falcons defense versus the saints i think i think those are the three I would look at. But I think Giants and Bears are pretty strong options for streamers. Okay. Yeah. I mean,

Giants Panthers at 630 in, uh, where are they, Berlin? Man. That game is weird. Everyone's making fun of it. The game's weirdly important now.

The loser of that game has a real edge for a quarterback. Yeah. The loser could have first dibs at a quarterback that will set you back for five years. That's so awesome. Carson Beck season, baby. This is like I actually have this question. I know.

this is a totally ridiculous thing to ask it, but do you actually want the top pick? I feel like there just comes with so much pressure with the top pick. I feel like this year you want it, you trade out. Yeah. Well, yeah, but if you had to take the number one pick,

I feel like there's just, it's just like bad juju. You want the second pick? Yeah, you want the shirt. Give me the fucking, it makes no sense. It makes no sense, but I just like, yes. You have the most pressure to hit on a quarterback

in a terrible quarterback class. That's just like the worst position to be. You're right that like... You have to make really tough choices. The second pick is easier because, yeah, you don't have to make it a decision. I don't know why. It doesn't make any sense. I just want to make sense.

It does make sense. I just want a fucking quarterback, though. I want to be able to get a quarterback without having to make a goddamn trade. That's what I want. We got a long way to go with this quarterback class. We might end up buying in with a lot of these guys, I feel like. They're not going to be as good as the Caleb, May, and Jaden trio, I think. I know.

He's been talking up Cam Ward, which is actually surprising. I feel like Cam Ward is not the number one overall quarterback I'd rather have Cam Ward than Carson fucking back, let me tell you right now Nesmire. Nesmire might be the guy. Yeah, I actually think he's the one.

I don't know if it's Cam Ward though. Anyone but fucking Daniel Jones. I mean, that's fair. He trucked two guys last week. All right. You'd probably just take Travis Hunter first. Are you guys trying to needle me? No, I don't know.

I think you should take Ashton Jonti. bring back Daniel Jones. Kind of relive the glory days. Just him and Seque One together. Yeah, Gentian Seekone. Just together. Just have them run the offense, just two guys. That'd be cool.

All right. Let's talk about boogers. All right. We need to do a little bit of warning. We're about to talk about boogers for a significant chunk of time. If you have a queasy stomach or if you're prone to getting nauseous listening to conversations about gross things, you might want to stop listening or skip this part quickly. Fair warning.

we talk about boogers and eating them. Okay, thank you. Yeah, you wanted to talk about boogers? And then we can bring Kai in the end. I got to hear this market research because this is fascinating to me. I honestly didn't think this many people would be. 31 brave souls, thank you.

If 31 people emailed us, just think about how many people are out there eating boogers. I had to put them all in a Google Doc because there were so many. So again, once again, we asked people to make the case for eating boogers because we were kind of talking about, you know, they catch the guys picking their nose on the sideline and a full game,

I get it. Eating the boogers is different. And so we were like, you know what, will anyone make the case for eating boogers? 31 people emailed us making the case for eating boogers. So I'm just going to, I'm just going to, I'm just going to just go, I want me just roll through these. Yeah, I want to know some of the main reasons. Okay.

I'm going to start. This is a redacted number one. Come on. Redacted, number one. All caps. Please don't use my name. All right. because my friends listen to the show.

I didn't make it a burner email account if I was doing this. I know. My friends listen to the show. Forgive my fantasy fathers for I have sinned. I may have overcome my booger eating, but I cannot stop mining for gold. As a child, I was so bad for biting my nails and eating my boogers that my mom bribed me with an iPod if I would stop for three months. My theory is that both nails and boogers satisfy a mouthfeel because nails are crunchy, boogers are salty. Oh, God, it's such an awful sentence.

Jesus. Salty. I'm trying not to be judgmental here in the confession grossing me out. There's like these little salty clusters.

Biting nails is still my nervous tick. Picking my nose still feels good. I have the willpower to only do it in private. Okay, so that's kind of... Yeah, but he's not saying he's eating it. He's saying he's picking his nose, which I would admit. He said he's graduated from eating. Yeah, you're right.

All right. All right. This is redacted number two. Redacted number two. we're not going to do that for everyone. You're going to do it everyone. 29-year-old booger-eater here. Here's the thing.

First, I totally agree it should be more acceptable. Here's the thing. Wait, did we say it should be more acceptable? No. No, we said picking your nose should be a little more acceptable. And he'd say, booger-eating. That's different. Those are taboo too.

Yeah. Publicly eating them, I'm not sure. This is wild. Okay. This is I agree. The detective number two says, we first say that to be clear. First, I totally agree it should be more acceptable.

It's just satisfying to get one out of the nose. Honestly, I kind of like the taste. A little salty, but it's really a habit of convenience. Don't have to get up to grab a tissue. Don't have to flick boogers anywhere. Is it really that gross? Question mark. Yes.

And he says, I don't know if I want to keep going on this. They just came from the nasal passage throat area anyway. And as I write this, I'm ashamed and also realizing boogers carry germs and I should wash my hands more. I mean, it's like, I understand it comes from your body, but it's like, do you want to eat your hair when it falls off? Like, there's other bodily fluids. I'm not trying to put in my mouth.

It's a decent pitch. It's a decent pitch. You know, people, people, if they, like, cut their finger, will suck their blood. People kind of swallow mucus. There are bodily fluids that people consume. The booger, it's tough that the booger is literally like a, collection of like things your body is trying to expel. And you're just kind of putting it back into your body.

Austin just texted. Kai has to eat his own boogers for guys, guys. So redacted here. Let's just let's go into less detail here. We got more of the reasons. Less details? I don't want the summary I would say from reading them is the convenience. All right.

Can I give you the worst pitch? The convenience is a deal. I'm willing to hear out the convenience. Oh, I thought this was the worst pitch that I heard. Okay. Was the worst one. The best and worst. Redacted number seven.

Number seven. Anonymous 35-year-old man here. I'll defend eating boogers with two points. Number one. What you decide to do in privacy with your own body is your own choice. No one's being hurt physically or emotionally. You're right as an autonomous. individual should not be abridged by any human institution or judgment.

So he's going political. He's literally saying this is pro-choice, got it. My body, yeah. Make your own decisions. I don't know what I like that. And he was cooking. Then he said, number two, they need to come out and then where are you going to put him? Which, dude, that's what fucking tissues are for, bro?

What if you're not near a tissue? Be near a tissue. Let me be near a tissue. Have a tissue. It's what you're picking your house. Handkerchiefs used to be for this. People need to bring back. handkerchiefs. That's the worst take you've ever had. I think the dirty handkerchief that

sits in a pocket and you blow your nose in it for like 24-s, I think is the grossest thing. You lend it to something else. I would rather eat my own boggers than have a dirty snot rag in my pocket all day. I would absolutely not. I'm going to disagree with you vehemently on that one. Dude, I think the hangers- Do you'd rather eat your buggers than carry a handkerchief? There's a reason why the handkerchief has gone extinct because it's nasty. It's pretty nasty. You can fold it. Yeah, dude.

How many times? Once, twice? People blow there's nothing 30 times. You can't fold it three or four times and be fine. Max. Dude, the handkerchief thing. Three times. You'd rather eat your own boogers than carry a handkerchief.

My whole life? Yeah. Yeah. I would. My God. I look. I mean, sometimes you're in it. Look, we've all done it.

You pick your nose. You have nowhere to put it. You like throw it under a table. or wherever you see, you know, that's not a great solution either. You know, it's funny, none of the people emailing us made that case, but the case they should have made is that if you stick a burger somewhere else, that's actually fucked up. It is very fucked up.

It's like people putting gum under a table. Like, a lot of people just have to get rid of something. So redacted number six writes, have you ever done it? Because the flavor, the crunch, into a chewing little nugget. Jesus Christ. I'm starting to get a little nauseous here. The flavor, the crunch? All right.

I'll read one more. I think maybe I'm grossed out by buggers more than you guys are. I'll read one more. I'm not having a great time, either. I'll read one more. I'm straight up not having a good time. Redacted number nine writes, hey all, you promised to redact my name,

so I won't bother including it. Although I'm going to mention third eagles fan. I'm going to say that. Redacted number nine. You didn't do the redacted number nine. Redacted number nine. I'm writing in because I'm a 31-year-old lifelong bugger eater. Okay. I've been doing it as long as I can remember.

Craig just. Heavy size. I really, honestly, from the bottom of my heart, I want to say, like, thank you to all the brave people who emailed us today. Courageous. I know. You're a bigger person than I am. And like, even though we're redacting your name, the fact that you're willing to, to, I don't know, make this claim is awesome. There's no, yeah, no, it is. It's radical transparency. There's no chance anyone has, like, written any of this down before. I know. So we're not shaming you. I'm truly just like a little grossed out. We're learning this for the first time. Yeah, this is all new for us.

You know, like this is, I didn't actually, I, I truly didn't understand that that many people ate their boogers still. And don't tell Bill Simmons because apparently all you people like snake drafts or I always got like the only booger eaters to snake drafts. Oh my God. Our market research is actually confirming that this might be true. Redacted number nine says, I've been doing, I've been eating my boogers all my life as long as I can remember. And throughout my adult life. I've made many attempts to stop, but I've been unable to. But that's not why we're here.

You ask someone to. Okay. That's not why we're here. It's like some booger zins. Yeah. Wow. Interesting. Bugger,

you ask someone to sell you guys and why someone would do this, so I'm going to try. I personally think the reasons of mine picking your nose are totally justifiable for anybody when hard or big burgers get stuck in your nose, they just need to come out. Any person who's had this discomfort, this discomfort doesn't do anything about it to me. easier than the person who does. Eating the booger depends on the texture and size. Yeah, I didn't want to bring it up, but I was going to say, like, there's got to be lots

of different variations on what kind of boogers one's going to put in their mouth. If it's a wet, mucusy one, no way. You want one kind of dry and crunchy. But when a nice one comes along, it is admittedly pretty satisfying. And they say, usually the texture is nice, similar to a chewy candy like gushers or nerds.

The flavor of them is usually bland, but mildly salty. there honestly isn't really much difference between the taste of most boogers and shellfish like squid octopus and some low salinity Pacific Coast oysters What the fuck is this is supposed to be a He's trying to sell us on eating them

And he's like they taste like shellfish I've been on record saying I don't like oysters That was the funniest sentence I've ever That's a sentence scorgami No one's ever been like eating buggers really like Low Salinity Pacific Coast oysters Yeah he's like wait wait wait If you're not sold let me just add one

piece. They taste like shellfish. Carlos timed in on the chat here. I'm getting major closeted booger eater vibes from Craig. Wow. I had the same thought. How dare you? Look, you know what? I'm not shaming the people who do it. I have never eaten my own booger. We should do a poll on Spotify. We should do a poll like do you eat boogers just yesterday. But I am advocating for picking your own nose because I do pick my nose and we all do it and nobody wants to talk about it.

Yeah, everybody picks it. That's fair. I'm okay with picking your nose. I want to say, I think the most compelling argument to date was the bodily autonomy thing. Like, I want to do what I want to do with my body, leave me alone. The rest of these, I'm just like, I'm kind of grossed out. Do you think this is mainly born out of people genuinely liking the taste and it being like a fun oral fixation? Or do you think this most, this is mostly born out of laziness and they like literally just don't want to get up and get a tissue? I think it's both. And it's also like a little addiction like you can't stop. Yeah, it's like something you start when you're a kid. So I, redacted number nine continues. I have to assume this.

habit is some fucked up manifestation of OCD that I've never addressed. However, sometimes I genuinely wish everyone else also ate their burgers, so I wouldn't feel like such a piece of shit. And writing into this podcast publicly, but anonymously, please for the love of God, don't say my name. Admit how disgusting I am, because this is probably the closest thing I'll ever get to therapy. So I appreciate the opportunity your show has given me to open up up about this.

Go birds. I'm sorry for being so judgmental initially. I support you and your. bodily autonomy. Maybe give the handkerchief a shot. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, it's maybe a little bit gross, Craig,

but I think it's less gross than eating it. I don't know, man. Putting it in your pocket on a piece of fabric is less gross than putting it in your mouth. At least you put it in your mouth, you're like kind of like an efficient process. You know, there's no waste. So is drinking your own urine.

but it's sterile and I like the taste The handkerchief is nasty I feel like also it's like I can't believe you're trying to make the argument Putting it in a handkerchief is gross Grosser than eating it But you know why? Yeah no that's a bad take

That's a bad thing I just I feel like if it was like I mean I really don't want to eat them But the handkerchief just sounds like such a hassle time Craig's kind of a germaphobe I don't know about that I think you guys think that just because I like to be healthy but I don't think I'm a germaphobe.

I mean, yeah, I agree. Hyvitz really applies some like West Coast Woo-woo California bias towards me. I feel like a lot, but... I do too kind of sometimes. I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, kind of make fun of, like, the whole California thing. I like, eat salads and jog, and you guys think I'm like Shailene Woodley.

He's eating taste. Yeah, honestly, yeah. I feel like, you mean clay probably, yeah. Oh, man. Look, we don't do pop. It's a California high school. All right. All right.

Let's, uh, you want to bring Kai in here. We'll do little Kai's guys. And then also I, I want to, I kind of want to get Kai's opinion on the book. I want the Gen Z take on the booger eating. Interesting. Yeah. Okay. Do you think older people are more accepting of it than younger people?

Oh, they don't talk about their feelings or emotions. They certainly don't talk about this. I think they all do it. But I don't think they talk about it. Yeah, this can't be like a new thing. No, there's no. New generation. Picking your nose is probably the oldest thing.

Eating them. I'm talking about eating them. Kai, what are your thoughts on that? What are your thoughts on this burger eating stuff? What have you learned here today? I think that it's quite foul. Maybe the most unhinged segment you guys have ever done. Yeah, that's true.

It's not therapy. I'm kind of judging them. There's a different. I don't know what I was expecting, to be honest. I guess there was no. Dead dove, do not eat. Yeah, there was no argument that I guess. anyone could have made, but I was prepared for somebody to kind of blow me away with like,

reasoning. And instead they were just like, I don't know, it tastes good or it's like, I'm lazy. But I think the thing that blew my mind is that it's salty. I can't get over that. Yeah, I didn't like how graphic they were. That was really, that was pretty vile. But good for them. Happy for them.

Keep doing it. I'm not going to. The best argument anyone made was like when you like have to swallow like phlegm or whatever from your nose, that's like that's just like the same thing. but also... I mean, that's fair. That's fair. But it's not...

I don't find it very compelling. Also, I feel like when you swallow phlegm, it's kind of because you feel like you need to or else you wouldn't be able to breathe. Yeah. Yes. You know what I mean? I'll die if I don't do this.

It's like a fight of flight. It's not like going across your lips and tongue either. It's going in through the back door, kind of. You know what I mean? If you inside, you're still following it. If you eat burgers one, we don't actually judge you. It's a loophole. We're all on the, you know,

the autonomy here. So if you guys eat boogers, if you think you can make a better case, please email us at Rear Fantasy Football atcom. we swear into anonymity. And if anything, I think that the 30 plus people emailing us

should be an affirmation that you guys are not alone and that this is a pseudo safe space. Safe for the anonymity, pseudo safe for the making fun. I feel like you guys are bugger eater enablers. I feel like that's where we're at now. We're enabling?

I don't know. We're encouraging this to the light. Yeah. This is scattered to the darkness, Guy. I don't think we're going to have any. It sounds like most of these people are like addicted to it. Look, yeah, they're not stopping now. It's too late now.

These are adults. They are aware of the public perception of their habits. And they don't care. They've chosen to live this. The only person who included their name was actually was named Danny. And it didn't really count because it was when they were kid. But their brother told them they were like seven and they found out their brother was like, no, if he'd of those are going to die.

And so Danny counted out nine and then never ate one again. Oh, wow. Wow, cold turkey. That's like, I remember the whole, I remember as a kid, the watermelon seed, the watermelon seed, a watermelon would grow in your stomach, you ever hear that? God, do. Rugrats. Oh, is that from Rugrats?

Well, there's an episode about it. I'm sure that predated Rugrats. Yeah. All right. Anyway, Kai. Yeah. Honestly, that's a good email prompt. Like, myths you were told as a kid that you, like, abided by for way too long.

Yeah. Email, yeah, emails misses from childhood. Like your palms will grow hair or whatever, or hair if you jack off too much. That old chestnut. Never heard that. Harry palms. That one, yeah. I haven't heard of that one.

Hold on, let me look at this up. Careful what you Google. That's a work computer guy. You know the whole one about like a hairy palms jerk it off. That's a D. Yeah, there was a myth that excessive masturbation causes your palms and fingers to get hairy. I remember hearing this when I was growing up. It's a thing.

Maybe that wouldn't be so bad. There's a lot of, you know, I grew up in a Catholic household. There's a lot of guilt around masturbation. I was going to say. And that's when you headed off into the woods. Yeah, that's when I was like. In search for answers. Yeah.

And you found them. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not going to go into detail. You remember the one as a kid about the wind change directions while you were frowning, or you're making a dumb face, your face would freeze that way? You ever heard that? Yeah, if windchered directions, your face stays the same? You never heard that?

What? No, I've never heard. though. These are all just elaborate lies to get kids to stop being little shits, aren't they? Oh, of course. My God. All right, Kai, give us a little recap on waivers right here, and then we're going to make you, do. Do you have Halloween candy for us to make you eat? I do. It's kind of insane that I have to eat food after that, but you know, it's fine. I actually am queasy after that Congress. Yeah, it was actually, it was worse than I thought it would be. My stomach is like a little uneasy. I thought it would be funny. I had 10 and I'm like, we should have a

trigger warning on that. It was kind of terrible. Austin literally texted me that. I think that's, yeah, that's a good idea. A bugger warning is he named it. If you haven't like, yeah, if you have like a very uneasy stomach, probably just don't listen to this part. We just clip that right there

and then move it to the beginning. And then now it's like a little Tarantino, people will be like, oh my God, I got to that point where he said it. The subtle foreshadowing. There you go. Nice.

Okay. So last week, I lost again by quite a bit. Who did you pick? I picked Danny Hyphitz. Yeah. You know, got to stop, got to quit that guy. He had 6.5 points.

DKU had 26.1. Yeah, total. Tough week. Not great. DKU had 26.1. Craig had 32.9. Damn it. Craig.

In a rare... I'm kind of cooking this year. I'm cooking. Craig, who did you have? Wrapped up by Monday night football, which is kind of nice. I had Algeria more and Tassum Hill. I thought I only won one of the three trivia questions last week, so... Well, Cedrico.

Who did Craig had 16.5. points. So that kind of tilted it. Who are you taking this week? Craig, you had Justice Hill and Hunter Henry. And also, before I reveal who I'm going to take this week, trivia. This is a huge development here. D.K., sweeping today, took the lead with 11.

Let's go. Craig, who has 10 in 5'06. So big, big, big change. Nice. Are you doing the math on my numbers, Hyphids? I was. Fair enough. I'm terrible enough, honestly.

I'm surprised they haven't messed up with these numbers yet. This week I'm going to go with D.K. I mean, it's pretty obvious. Quentin Johnson was, you know, a siren song, but no. Three Ws can't go anywhere else. I got Braylon Allen, Xavier Leggett, Taseom Hill. That adds up, right? 10, 11, and 6 is 27.

We've had nine weeks, nine times three is 27. There you go. Nice. You're good. Pass the vibe check. Let's go. past. Okay, so I told the guys beforehand,

I was unable to acquire an Abba Zaba. It's disappointing? If you know. Yeah, I know. I let everyone down on that front. But I do have a surprise candy that hopefully we'll somewhat make up for. I think we'll end with that one.

What do we think? Yeah. What do you guys want me to start with? I have a Rises take five right here. We should end on that. I tried this for the first time. Oh, end here. I think we have never had more.

Because I feel like it's going to be a winner. Okay. Okay. And then we've got an almond joy right here. Wonderful. Yeah, I bought a lot of them, so if I don't like it, it's kind of tough. And then I got some good and plenty.

I got bad news guy. I don't think you're going to like it. Oh, good and plenty. What is a good and plenty? What do you mean? I don't know, but Craig mentioned them. What is a good and plenty? It's black licorice.

That's disgusting. I hate black licorish. Yeah. Wait, good and plenties are black liquorish. I feel like I'm misremembering. That's why is the box white and pink? Because they don't want you to think it's black licorish. Oh, you're right there are licorish.

That's like how they hide cold. They're trying to trick you. I think I was thinking of Mike and Ikes. Similar little... I remember similar. Yeah, yeah. Little pill-shaped candies. I mean, good employees really look like...

Hot tamales? Anyone like hot tamales here? That's like my weirdest. No. I love hot tamas. I think hot cinnamon sucks. Yeah, I do too. Fair. If you don't chew being red, then fuck you.

All right, Kai. Like fireball? I can handle fireball, but I'm not craving it. I know. It's like if I'm like forced to do it. The college drink was the fireball and red bull called it fireball. That was, that was, I, I worry what that probably gave me ulcers. You ever done fireball and angry orchard?

Yeah. Angry balls. Yeah. I almost died in a fireball gimp suit that they sent us for this podcast. The fireball sponsored us. It was a onesie. There's a onezy. I almost died in a fireball gimp suit.

That's a set in scourgum. It was a onesy, but it was like weird because it zipped up all the way to the hoodie, which I've never seen before. So I did it as a bit, but it was like kind of cheap. And so I couldn't zip it back down. And so I'm like alone in my apartment wandering around, like trying to unzip this fucking onesy. And I was like, suffocate.

I was like, I think I'm going to die in this fucking thing. Because I couldn't undo it. The panic set in. Imagine how disappointed your parents would be. How did it go? Well, funny ass. Five, he was draped over the kitchen table and a fireball gimp suit. Just pulled trig.

Pull tring on the almond tree. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm not going to eat the whole thing, right? Just to buy it. move on. That's what we're thinking. Why did you buy so many? Did you only come in a bag?

You got to get the almond. Yeah, it only came in a bag. Okay. How's it going, Kai? Got the coconut. It's not bad. The coconut's a little strong. Not getting a lot of almond.

Maybe I didn't bite yet. Yeah, it looks like it's in the middle. So I miss that. They really skimp you. There's one almond. It's like one almond. It's like a side pod on a rocket. It's like a weird.

Hmm. Still don't like coconut very much But it's not horrible Okay Not the worst thing ever Perfect That means that we can move right into good and plenty Which I fear you will loathe

Oh I will I absolutely will Oh there This is not the color I thought they would be though Hold on Good and Pletties look like the first candy ever invented They might be Yeah

Dude they were introduced in 1893 Craig 1893. They haven't updated the branding since. They literally look like, they look like, like if you wanted to play doctor as a kid and you needed like fake pills and fake medicine,

you would use good and plenny's. They were introduced by Quaker City Chocolate and Confectionary Company. Yeah. It's a red one. Confectionary. I feel like I'm in the matrix. That's a word you don't use enough anymore.

I was a good guy. I picked them on that. Thank you. I just have 30 years older than close box. I think you got a talk. I believe they both taste the, Oh, do they taste different? I don't even know.

I think you should toss a white and a pink in there. Same time. At the same time. Yeah. Double bubble. Here we go. You take them like their pills. Is this water?

Oh. Right to the gullet. That's so bad. That's horrible. No, they're good. They're kind of sneaky. No. How do you eat that?

That's disgusting. I kind of like black licorish. It's kind of a refined palate situation. If I had someone to spit this out, I would immediately. They're kind of like low solidity Pacific. I need water. I feel like licorice candy is like what people used to eat before they discovered sugar. DK., would you rather eat black licorice or boogers?

I mean, black licorish. That's a good question. It's close enough. I don't know. That's my line. My grandma used to just have like a little bucket of like licorice candy in her house. It just reminds me of my grandma. You want to toss in two more?

Kind of maybe double check, make sure. No. No, I'm done. I'm tapping out on that one. That whole box is going away. very quickly. That was one of the worst candies I've ever had in my life, for sure.

Hands down. Not even close. 1893. How are they still around? How do people like these? Craig, I don't like these. I don't understand.

I don't seek them out. I just don't think it's horrible. I kind of just, I like licorish and black licorice is okay sometimes. So California of you. Right. That's California can't get enough black licorish. All right.

This is the take five. I get a green juice and a black licorish. to start my day. Eat your clay, raw milk. Take five Rises. You're gonna go on a flavor journey. You're about to go to play the town.

I think I'm gonna like this. Yeah, I think I'm gonna like this. So we'll see. Those are unbelievable. Yeah. I still think a take five is better, but I,

it's great. It tastes like a Reese is. Yeah. What is it? In the middle? It's just, it's a Reese's with pretzel, essentially.

Yeah. Caramel, I think. I feel very strongly that you can't go. wrong with Reese's peanut butter. Like anything, like put that in anything and I'm going to eat it. And the, the Reese's pumpkins have the best ratio. The special Reese's, like the Christmas trees or the pumpkins of the Easter eggs,

they have like the best ratio of chocolate to peanut butter. Yeah. Perfect creation. This is fire. Yeah, it's good, right? Yeah. This made up for the terrible good planties. Yeah, yeah.

Good choice in the order. So, yeah. I'm out on almond joys, but not terrible, completely out on good and plenny's. Those are just, those should be banned. that's a band substance. And then I do like, I do like to take five quite a bit. Those are my reviews.

All right. All right. I kind of want to go. Why do people like good in plenny's? You like one. You can't even explain it. Tradition mostly. TK., this is your chance.

If you need a music advice before I end the show, like you should, you should ask for a take from Kai if you need a band. I know you're running out. Oh yeah. Kai, give me a good band. No,

one second. I mean, he's just a bunch of good at plutties in his mouth. No. Well, you're doing that. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Craig.

Thank you, Kui for eating all the food. Thank you, Carlos, for producing this episode because I don't know what Kai's going to do after he vomits all this up. Thank you, awesome. Thank you, honestly, from the bottom of my heart. Thank you. Have you ever to email this at ringerfantasy football at gmail.com and bear your soul. One, just trusting that I wouldn't docks you.

I promise I won't, but I appreciate the trust. Thank you. You know what? I appreciate the courage you took to put all that in writing. Thank you. Emails at ringerfancyfootball atcom. Thank you, Lorne. Lauren.

D.K. Tyler, Tyler, the creator. Thank you, Tyler, the creator. New album, Kai. Mixed reviews? What do people think? I think people are generally positive on it.

Okay. It feels like a really, really big Tyler moment in a slew of many big Tyler moments over the last, like, five years. And I listened to it twice all the way through, really enjoyed it. I was talking to Hyphitz about it, off mic, off mic, obviously.

And I think that it's like simultaneously his most vulnerable and most like soft album with still like the very sharp moments that Tyler Creator brings. But there's moments on there where he's like talking about, you know, having a kid or not having a kid or, you know, having all of the success and money and fame in the world. Yet there are things that elude him like a family in that like a traditional sense. So I love the album, but I'm very partial to to everything that has, Tyler has done. since like Flower Boy in 2017. Kai, can you like explain Tyler the Creator to D.K.? Sure. I feel like Tyler is low-key one of the most influential artists.

Oh, absolutely. Of anyone in the last five or six years. Before I go on a Tyler Creator tangent again, what do you know about him? Very little. What's your relationship to him? You called him Tyler Creator and I was like, did I fuck it up? Is it Tyler the Creator? It's like Slurred.

It's like talking heads, but the opposite. Right, right, right, right. It's Tyler Kama, the creator. Right. I mean, in short, I'll try to keep this brief. He's a very polarizing figure, but he's been around also forever. Like, he came up when he was really young, 2013 with this music collective entertainment thing called Odd Future, who like Frank Ocean was a part of, and Sid was a part of, and Lionel Boyce, who's in The Bear Now was a part of.

So that's kind of crazy. Oh, really? So came up with that. That explodes. Earl Sweatshirt, and they all kind of find success in their own ways through that. And then Tyler is just a standout star in a lot of ways, one, because he's been consistently making music since 2013. And to what Hyford's saying earlier, there's like, there's an intentionality around what Tyler does, the way he rolls out an album, the way he sequences songs,

the way he has a concept for an album and executes that, like said concept. So I think it's just like... of artists. What Carl said the other day was Tyler never puts the same album out twice. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Which can be polarizing because I think a lot of people when they love an album and they love an artist, yes.

They want you to put out. Like the same thing that's just slightly different. And if you try to reinvent yourself or come up with new things, a lot of people are upset by it. I do remember hearing about him a lot. I just like, for whatever reason, never got into it. Craig, do you remember the Yonkers video? Yeah, with the Buzz. The cockroach eats

And I feel like that is like you could release that now And that was just so ahead of its time It was just crazy Did he have like contacts in? It was that was a very I was like one of the more visceral music videos I had ever seen I don't know how old I was when that came out

But yeah that really stuck with me Would you rather eat one cockroach or a hundred boogers 100 boogers? DK Yeah I'm cockroaches is like my biggest Cockroaches are disgusting I can't do cockroaches

And it's what just sucks Because I live in L.A. And there's a lot of cockroaches Kai, would you rather eat one cockroach or a thousand boogers? A thousand? You just upped it for Kai. Yeah, what's the deal there? They answered really quickly.

Probably, probably boogers still. Ah, cockroach. That's, yeah, it's vile. Can't do that. I'm just going to do it once to get over with. Could I combine all the boogers into one? Ugh. Oh, like the nerd clusters?

Oh, like the new nerd clusters, how they combine them. Yeah, could I do that? Could I put Reese's computer? Or is it a thousand days eating one booger a day? It's up to you. I guess either way. Either way, I'm still doing. Like gold member in Austin Powers,

you keep a little box and then just down the whole thing. Earlier when someone described the boogers as a salty cluster, and that I will never, that will never leave my brain, ever. It's the new honey bunches of oats flavor. All right, goodbye, everyone.

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