The Ringer NFL Show - Draft Needs for All 32 Teams, the NFL’s Plan for 18 Games, DOJ Case Explained, and Tom Harmon Is Missing Again

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

The guys run through team needs for all 32 teams ahead of the draft, mixing real roster-building debates with offseason chaos—from NFL streaming drama to why an 18-game season feels inevitable. (00:00) Intro (01:45) News (10:52) Team Needs (01:21:16) Emails Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out The Ringer’s 2026 NFL Draft Guide: https://theringer.com/nfl-draft/2026/big-board#content Email us! [e-mail] Shop Amazon and save the everyday. Visit amazon.com today. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Austin Gayle, Abou Kamara, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey everyone, quick note before we start. So right after we finished recording this, and we recorded this episode on Friday, April 10th, the Eagles traded a fifth round pick this year and a six round pick next year to the Packers for Dantavian Wicks, the receiver, which only makes us feel a little stronger that A.J. Brown is going to get traded.

We don't know when, but we talked about the pretty good amount in this episode, but only makes us feel stronger. We don't know when, maybe during the draft, maybe after the draft or closer to the season because of the timing of how it'll help the Eagles cap situation if they trade them probably a little after the draft. but just wanted to note that it is just more smoke that we do think the Eagles are probably going to deal

AJ Brown at some point. So without any further ado, we will get to the show. NFL draft show, a.k. The ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyphen today. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. And today we were going over the team needs for all 32 teams, literally what every team in the NFL needs in the draft, which is only in two weeks.

If you don't like listening and you like reading, which I don't think anyone in the world prefers that these days, these crazy kids. But if you do, if you're like over 6. years old NFLdraft.thranger.com. Haifitz has all of his team needs on the website. You can go through all this and look at it and scroll

and have a great time. And you could actually do that while listening to us. You could go and scroll through them with your thumb or on a computer with your mouse or D.K.'s guides and needs and mock drafts and everything there at NFLdraft.draft.orgia.com or you could just hear us talk about it. So we're going to go through all 32.

First, I want to start that with this news. D.K., the Department of Justice says it's too expensive to watch football. What say you, Daniel? I mean, I think I would agree. There's just too many places to watch the NFL right now. I mean, you have to buy, how many subscriptions do you have to buy to watch every game? Like eight?

Yeah, something like that, seven or eight. I think the number they put on it was if you actually want to watch every game, it's like $800 almost to watch every single game in the NFL. That seems a bit much. It's a lot. So I think this is a big enough story. I wanted to just mention it. And I didn't even know the right way to explain it without.

What this is all happening is basically, the NFL, this is obvious, but it's also the point. The NFL is 32 different businesses, but they all sell the same product, which is just they have football games. And then those 32 businesses collude to fix the price of what they sell football games as. And when businesses collude to set prices,

that's called a cartel, like drug cartels or oil and OPEC. And the NFL is legally a cartel, but you're not allowed to be a cartel in America. So they actually got Congress to make it legal for the NFL to be a cartel in 1961. But the problem is when Congress wrote this bill, there was no internet, and they put the word broadcasting in the bill.

So now what the Department of Justice is saying, he's like, these games on the internet, that wasn't included in your cartel legalization bill 60 years ago. So is the NFL putting football games on streamers? Is that actually broadcasting, if it's actually like a pretty narrow cast for money? my first thought

don't they have anything better to do I mean I'm happy that the Department of Justice Like it's just funny They have a finite amount of people Probably working in the Department of Justice And like right now they're like We're gonna fucking take down NFL streaming

I mean Pam Bondi gets fired And they're just like you know what Pam You weren't doing a good enough job I mean Trump negotiated a ceasefire So he could fix the portal Which I'm like that's cool Right It's a mess right now out there.

Maybe that's what we need to straight of our moves. We need a portal. Weird priorities. We do need a port. We really just need a transfer portal. It all comes down to a unit portal. What's funny about this whole thing is it seems like this. I don't think anything's going to happen here.

Like I don't think this is going to change anything. I think the NFL's going to win. But this investigation actually then could be good for the NFL. Shocker, everything's usually good for the NFL. Because the NFL is in the process of negotiating its rights with broadcasters and streamers. And they're basically just trying to get a bunch more money from all the people that air the games.

And this all happened because when David Ellison, the son of Larry Ellison, who has Oracle, when David Ellison bought Paramount, it issued a change of ownership clause that basically the NFL had a relationship with Paramount. But when David Ellison came in, he was like, I now own Paramount, that allowed the NFL to start renegotiating its rights with Paramount.

So now the NFL is like, actually, even though we have all of these deals set up with like Comcast and all Disney and all these companies through like the 2030s they're like we're just actually going to renegotiate right now and we're going to extend new deals right now and we're going to make you all pay more money right now and basically it's because the NBA kind of fucked everything up because when the NBA renegotiated its rights with all these companies right now Comcast which has like NBC Peacock all that's up Comcast pays the NBA $2.5 billion a year for basketball. Comcast pays the NFL two billion in a year for football.

They pay less for the NFL. That's crazy. It's the Christian Kirk deal. It's $19 million a year in Devante Adams and Tyrakeler. What did you just say? They pay less for football than they do for basketball. The Tyler Linderbaum deal.

All the other teams are like, fuck, we're going to have to pay so much for a center now. The brick went up. Right. So the NFL is like fuck that. And so, but back to the department. Basketball? They're like, are you serious? Basketball?

You're paying that for basketball? For tanking teams? And I love your point that the NFL and all these deals, they have. a, hey, just we have a, if you get bought for $100 billion clause, we get to do this whole contract over again. But the reason why this is good for the NFL is because this Department of Justice investigation is going to delay things because what the NFL wants is to go from 17 games to 18 games. They want teams to play 18 games and they want it done before 20, 27.

And they want to go from one by week to two by weeks. So an 18 week season to a 20 week season, the 20 week season, 18 games played plus two by weeks. and when they agree to that, which they're trying to negotiate with the NFLPA and J.C. Tredder right now, that's so many more games you can sell. So basically this Department of Justice investigation will delay these rights deals enough

that hopefully they can then agree with the NFLPA on an 18-game season before they start renegotiating these rights with all these broadcasters because if they do successfully, now they have a bunch more games. They can sell way more money and they can charge way more for these rights

if it's a 20-week season versus an 18-game season. And it's why the 20-28 Super Bowl, which is really the 20-27 season, they don't have a date yet. They're refusing to set a date for that Super Bowl because if they set the date, then they are committing on a 17-game season. So it just says February, 2028 in Atlanta,

and it will likely be, depending on whether the NFL, if they successfully do this, if they successfully get an 18-game season by 2027, the NFL is either going to kick off on Labor Day, weekend and we're going to have a February 20th Super Bowl or it's going to kick off the weekend after Labor Day and we're going to have a February 27th Super Bowl in 2028. Whoa.

Well, I think what they would do is they would put it after President's Day weekend, right? So you have a three date. So basically people would have the day off after like the Super Bowl. It depends when they start. The NFL doesn't like Labor Day weekend because they think no one's around to watch. But now that's like kind of changed because everyone's on their phones and stuff. So they might actually want to start Labor Day weekend. So they're deciding on that.

But long story short, that is why this whole delayed investigation thing might help them actually negotiate an 18-game season and then get even more money from all these broadcasters and streamers. Whoa. Interesting. Thanks for making the NFL more money, DOJ. There we go. That's- I know. Are they colluding with the DOJ? Is the first question I have. Also, second question. This is all one big procrastination, maybe. Second question. Did you cover this on the town? Because that was extremely well researched, Craig. Good job. Not really, but Puck, Matt's company is covering it. John O'Rond, who has a sports newsletter for Puck, does a good job covering it. And we've talked about it a little bit on the town. We talked about the right stuff mainly.

Yeah. 18 games already coming up. I feel like 18 games is sort of just on the horizon, but it feels further away. I know. Like not next year, but the year after that, they go to an 18 game season. That's kind of crazy. It's going to add two weeks of the season. It's going to make fantasy kind of a weird nightmare, and we're going to have to figure out when to do the play.

No, it'll be better. It'll be better for fantasy that by weeks will be annoying, but it'll be better that the championship's not on fucking Christmas anymore. Championship Week doesn't go for Wednesday. That would be nice. The other thing I heard, somebody was saying, maybe this was just an idea of how to negotiate with the NFLPA, but it was like all players only play 17 games.

So then they have to figure out how to rotate it. You know what I mean? This is just an idea. I don't think it's actually going to happen. But to make it easier on the players, you only can play 17 games. And then NFL teams have to figure out how to kind of, rotate their guy. Well, that's, well, no, no, it's because the players, the players don't want

another game. No, it's because the players want more money. Because when you go from this five year, six year period, you've gone from a 16 game season to an 18 game season over the course of a four year rookie contract, that's half a season. So basically now players are playing four and a half years instead of four years under contract for the same amount of money. So the NFLPA is like, you're going to have to give us a raise. And then if loaners are like, fine, fuck it. Just play less games. We don't care. Like anything other than a raise. They won't even pay the referees to avoid a rep lockout. They're not going to give the player. So that's what that whole like, oh, players only play 17 games thing.

It's so that the reunion can't bitch and moan about like having more games over the contract life. Anyway, the point being is I think it'd be cool if the Super Bowl was a three-day weekend and imagine if you could drink and party. That would be nice. Like, there was no work the next day. And they're going to create a, like honestly, I think of it as winter. You're like a national holiday.

To me, that's not worth adding two more weeks. Craig, we know. Hate money. 20 week season? This guy hates money. Craig's like, I want shorter movies and shorter seasons. I want a 16 game season. I liked when you could go 8 and 8.

16 was good. I like when you could go 8 8. Now, I don't want to see 9 and 9. That's nasty. Can we discuss what the records would look like? So now you can be 14 and 4. Do we like that? That's better than 4.

I mean, the odd numbers is horrific. I just don't really, I don't like the 17 game season. No, it's bad. It's weird in between. We're going to, like, this is just a weird, awkward phase because the NFL didn't they never no one ever ever wanted an adolescence of the NFL right now everyone's got braces it just looks weird the records it's how people got some of the kids aren't using deodorant you're like dude you got the greasy ass hair they got shin splints oh yeah

it's horrific yeah okay with that said growing kids get into the team needs here uh again so i wrote just the breakdown of the team needs for every team which and just to reiterate why this matters beyond the obvious because I think a lot of people emails over the years and they're like, why do you talk so much about what a team needs when you always say and everyone always says you should just take the best player available? And it's a great question. And the answer is because most teams are lying when they say we take the best player available. They usually just take what they need. And every team when the first round ends is just taking positions they need unless a crazy value falls and D.K. Tell me if you disagree. Honestly, it's actually a lot rarer than you think that a team just takes the best player

level regard to the supposition. I think, yeah, that is an interesting point. I do think there's surprises every year, though. You know what I mean? Like, maybe it's not always our common or maybe the most common thing, but I feel like every year in the draft, we're like, oh, they took that position. I was not expecting that. No one really put that in a mock draft.

It feels like it happens every year. Well, things change. When players fall that you had higher on the board and they fall to, I mean, it's, it happens in a fantasy draft. Like, you could start, you could start wide receiver, wide receiver. And then the third round rolls around and Pooka's there. And you're like, shit, I guess I'll take a third one now. Yeah, yeah.

Just because it's the right guy. And the thing other with needs is some teams use free agency to be like, we can take any team now. Some teams look at the draft and they're like, you know, there's no running backs. The Texans need to trade for David Montgomery because we won't get a running back in the draft this year and then they can look at other positions. The other thing I'd say is the idea of a need is different for other teams. Some teams are like, I want a starter this year.

Like Dave Canales just said that two weeks ago, the head coach of the Panthers. He was like, why would I draft not a guy who's not going to start for me this year. Kyle Shannon for the 49ers is like, I want starters. Even it's a kicker in the third round. Shannon's like, well, he would start. Other teams like the Eagles are thinking a year or the Bengals are looking at needs next year. They don't necessarily expect rookies to play all the time. The Bengals are usually looking at this guy can red shirt for a year and then play the following series.

Like the Eagles. The Eagles do that a lot. Yeah, the Eagles took Cam Yergens before Travis Kelsey retired. Then when Travis Kelsey retired, who's already on roster. So when I look at the needs and if fans are mad at me, I try to keep in mind what the team actually considers. like how they think of themselves instead of just like what holes they need. So with that said...

The other thing to add to that real quick, I think I heard Daniel Jeremiah say this, but some teams just kind of game it a little bit where they give, they make their board have players that they need a little bit more, a little bit higher. So they're like,

we took the best player on our board, which just so happened to be a need that they have. What a great coincidence. We need a left tackle. Seven of the top nine players are left tackles. How great. So with that said, we can go through the teams.

I'm just going to go in the order the draft roughly with slotting in the actual teams that aren't picking in the first run, too. But I want to start the Raiders. They're taking Fernando Mendoza first. We don't have to pretend they're not. I feel like the biggest need for the Raiders is like you have to just make Fernando Mendoza's life easy. And I feel like the answer here is like maybe they want to right tackle. They probably need a number one receiver reel that isn't just Brock Bowers or Michael Merrittite end. But honestly, like I still think they need defense and nose tackle and trenches. Like I just think that that is the key. Like they did a lot of defense. But I think, D.K.

we'll talk about these guys a lot, but like Caden McDonald from Ohio State or Peter Woodson, I think they need a beefy boy right there in the middle. But I also just think Elijah Serrat, the receiver from Indiana. Like the Raiders should actually take him on the... You've kind of radicalized me on this a little bit in terms of why that makes so much sense. Obviously, the chemistry that he has, Elijah Serrat has with Fernina Mendoza in terms of just like that back shoulder connection that they have. He's a big possession receiver.

They don't really have another guy like that at the receiver core. I guess you could say Jack Bess was supposed to be that. but he has not turned into that whatsoever. They don't have any wide receivers. I mean, I mean, yeah. They have a bunch of guys who are like fill-ins or dudes, you don't know if they're good.

Jack Best, Trey Tucker, Jalen Naylor, Dante, yeah, they paid a bunch for Jalen Naylor in the off season. Yeah, so I would say either second or third round,

you've got it laid out like a defender and then a receiver here and your team needs saying, I think maybe just flip those either way because there's going to be a good receiver at 39 too. So I think that makes a lot of sense. This is why Austin was apoplectic once the Max Crosby.

trade went back because he was like, oh, we get Mikey Lemon at 13. We get Jordan Tyson at 13. They kept calling Vegas Juanae because vague you want to the Penn State corner. It was like, great, plug them in. And then the, so that's my other question for you before we move off the Raiders. DK, we'll give you three options. Max Crosby has traded on draft day or draft weekend. Max Crosby has traded Michael Parsons timeline like a week before the season or Max Crosby

plays for the Raiders this year. Which of those options would you pick? I think he's going to be traded. I still think it makes the most sense to trade him. It makes the most sense to trade him, but I mean, how much value are you going to get from him after he failed a physical? And now, like this knee issue is just so much more of a thing. I mean, not two first round, not two first rounders, probably. Like, no matter what you're going to be taking a cut and it's going to look bad.

Yeah, but I still think it makes sense for the health of the franchise long term. I mean, like you said on the last show, a couple shows ago, they're not fucking beating the Broncos, the Chiefs and Chargers this year. It just makes so much more sense, even if you are taking, you know, cents on the dollar or whatever in terms of what you can get back. Did anyone think they were going to get two first rounders before the Ravens did that? I don't think anyone thought that. So it was great that they got it and it felt awesome and it felt like a great deal for the Raiders. But now we're back to reality where it's probably not going to happen.

It's going to be a first and change. Yeah. But also next year's draft is so good that I think the 20, the first and the second next year, I think the Raiders still might want to do that. We'll see what happens. Yeah. The Jets have the number two pick. I put the needs as, I mean, a quarterback, but there isn't one to take a two.

They need a receiver who can get 400 yards because the Jets were the first team did not have a forgered or receiver of any team that's ever played. They have a receiver that can get 400 yards. Well, they need another one. Yeah, yeah. Unless you'd look like 80 Mitchell. And then I also think the Jets need an interception. I'm not a flip-ball ex. Just one.

One. Just give me one. Only team did not intercept a pass since they started keeping track before World War II. But I just think the number, they just need disruption. The Jets literally they were dead last in pressureing quarterback last year, which that's the real problem with the interception thing, is they had the second few as sacks and the few as quarterback pressures. So, D.K., what do you think the Jets do here with Arvill Reese,

the Ohio State linebacker, edge rusher, hybrid player versus David Bailey, a more traditional defensive end, outside linebacker pass rusher? I feel like David Bailey makes more sense for Aaron Glenn, but Ravelle Reese probably makes more sense for the Jets franchise. And I'm curious what you think the Jets should do, but also what the Jets will do. I think they should draft Rvel Reese. I think whether you see him as an offball linebacker or an edge rush or kind of a hybrid

between the two, I think he's the best player. And I think they've done actually a pretty good job of what we call like draft hedging where you don't have to take any particular position. And I think the fans will be fine with whatever they end up doing here. But from a roster point of view for being a very bad team and having been a bad team for a long time. Like, they have some pieces. They have like a good offensive line, at least in theory, the theoretical what this

offensive line could be, I think is a top 10th unit potentially, you know, pretty quickly here. They have some good skill players in Garrett Wilson and Reese Hall. You know, I think that they're set up to basically choose what they think is the best player. I know that we just talked about how teams don't really do that. But I really do think in this case, Arvel Reese is the best player. He has the highest upside.

David Bailey. Do you think that's like, yeah. Yeah, different flavors. And you're like, that's dumb. I don't think it's a dumb pick. I think it's, but I think they should pick R. Vell Reese. I'm not going to, because he's like right up there with Rvel

Reese on my rankings. I've got him sixth overall or seventh overall. Sixth. Yeah, and Reese number two. So it's not like a reach or a crazy pick or anything like that. He's more of a traditional and proven just edge rusher type. But I do just think Reese has a higher upside overall in terms of his versatility, what he can do.

The Jets have four picks in the first 44. picks of the draft. They're in a good spot because they have 102 and they have 116. That's a great spot for a wide receiver. Yeah.

The 16 is a perfect spot to go get like your Jordan Tyson, Mackay Lemon, Casey Concepcion, pick your preference. From a team building point of view, I know a lot of people are kind of connecting them

to Tyson's at 16 or maybe try and trade up into the late first round and get him, I'm like, man, I just think they're going to be so much better off if they just take a, you know, Enn's Russia early on, a receiver,

you know, maybe another offensive lineman or whatever, just build through the trenches. And then take your quarterback next year. They're loaded up for next year. They can move around. Even if they don't get the top guy, they still can get a very good quarterback because in theory, again,

this is all theoretical, but there's going to be like a multiple quarterbacks, I think, worth taking in the first round next year. I just think from a team building point of view and process-wise, they should just load up this year with those top, you know, 116 picks or whatever. They have two or three first rounders next year.

They have the Colts one. They have their own. Do they have a third? They have three. You're right. They have the Colts one from the sauce gardener trade. And they have the Cowboys first rounders. So the Jets have three first rounders next year in a huge draft.

So they can get a quarterback. And I think that's the thing is like when you don't have the quarterback, you build the bird's nest so the guy can succeed. The Jets also at the first pick of the second round this year, which is also a great spot to collect more picks because you can, usually a team gets all frothed up over some guy that fell out of the first round. And you can usually get a pretty good trade package to only move down a few spots in the top of the second round too.

So the Jets are vibes, vibes gonna be great after the draft for the Jets. I mean, look, are the Jets gonna be a top, a bottom 10 team in the NFL next year? Probably, I mean, the Colts could be a bottom 10 team. I mean, they could have two top 10 picks next year. There's a world, the Colts, yes. I think the Colts could come at last in the division

to give them up the top. It's like the Falcons thing from this last year. 100%. Yeah. The next, so number three, the Arizona Cardinals. I think this is like the same position as the Jets. They want a quarterback this year. They don't have one.

So your alternative is you go get a veteran and you just build around them and try to get a, a quarterback next year. So the Cardinals, it's like I have right tackle, defense, trade down. I don't think anything crazy here. They have some, they have, you know, they could go get a right tackle, pair them with Paris Johnson.

DK, I'm curious if you, what would you do if you were running the Cardinals? Would you want to take, let's say the Jets take Arvillis? Would you take David Bailey, edge rusher here? Would you want to go right tackle? Or do you think like Francis Marinoa is a reach? I think they should take a right tackle, whether they like Fano or Fano or Maui Noah more. That's up to them. I've got those two guys right next to each other.

I have Maui Noah just slightly higher. But I think they should take a right tackle, build out their offensive line, you know, and be, have the ability to be prepared for when you do land your quarterback of the future. You have a good offensive line. You can use those guys and they're helping out in the run game. I think, Hafeitz, you said something, the quote where the offensive lineman help everyone else on the field. Only position that helps everybody, even offensive defense. And so I think having the foundation, I mean, it's just like a cliche at this point. But just build a foundation before you build the house.

And that's where you get the quarterback later. You have good offensive line. That's, I think the best way that they can do this. I think it's not a reach to take either of those offensive linemen at that spot in this draft, particularly in this draft, because I don't think coming back into the second round, they're going to be anybody worth starting at offensive line, at offensive tackle in particular. So I agree. I think that's the smart thing to do.

The Cardinals could be the team that might trade back up for Ty Simpson. I don't know who was going to like them. But the Cardinals are the second pick of the second round. I wouldn't be shocked if they do with the giant. last year we're given a couple thirds and you move up 10 spots and you get like the giants got Jackson dart in the late first i think the cardinals may be one of those teams that do that for ty simpson i wouldn't be shocked uh the fourth team here is the titans we've talked about them a lot i think but just the tight they need weapons for cam ward whether it's a running back like jeremiah

i love or receiver like cardinal tate or receiver later in the draft they need another receiver because they don't have really have a big body at receiver or an explosive guy like jeremiah They need someone to sell season tickets next year. Private seat licenses, baby. Someone on their ticket other than Cam Ward, whoever that is, and a defensive lineman for Robert Sala. I think the question's going to be, is it like David Bailey,

as in like a great prototypical defensive lineman first step, get upfield guy for Robert Sala? Where do they go, Jeremiah Love? It probably makes more sense to go D-Linman and then a receiver like a Denzel Boston in the beginning in the second round, or maybe you trade up for him because they need a big body like that. But, Deky, where are you out on if,

If Jeremiah Love and David Bailey are somehow both in the board for the Titans, what do you think they actually do? I think right now I feel like they take the pass rusher. And the only reason I lean that way, I think I saw Adam Schaefter report maybe it was a week or two ago that he does not think the Titans are leaning towards Jeremiah Love, which I think is the right move for them. As much as I, you know, as much as I'm sure Titans fans would love to see Jeremiah Love there,

he's an exciting player. There's something to get happy, like excited and happy about. And you get to, that sells tickets, blah, blah, blah. I just don't think it's the right move for the franchise in the long term. I think they'd be much better off. It's like they made all these moves in off season. How much better is their pass rush? I mean, if Jermaine Johnson is healthy and really good, that helps, but they still need pass rushers.

So I would probably just, I would go Bailey or, you know, if they like one of the other pass rushers a little bit more, have that. But like, I don't know, to me, taking a running back is we've just seen this so many times. It's not going to help you. It's not going to help your team long term. Yeah, yeah. I mean, then they have to take a wide receiver at the third pick of the second round, whether it's like a Denzel Boston or something like that. But if there's no one there, like if they get screwed at that point,

they're really heading into this year with not a whole lot. I mean, you have Calvin Ridley, you have Elyke I.O. Manor. The running back is still Tony Pollard. Or tied in his gunner helm. Like year two under Cam Ward, that is not what you want. What about Colonel Tate? Is it too early for current? Cardinal Tate here?

I think, yeah, I think that's, I personally, I mean, this is the same conversation with the Giants at five or the Browns at six. I'm like, I like, I like Cardinal Tate a lot, but I just think the history of receiver in it. It's also just scarcity. It's like it's the deepest position in the draft. You can get a serviceable receiver at the top of the second round. Yeah. But you aren't going to get an offensive tackle. There are defensive ends.

But the defensive ends in the second round are not as high. It's completely different than the defensive ends available in the top of the first round. It just makes more sense to me to get receiver later. Also, AJ Brown's available. if you want to trade for him. And also Chris Bell, who's like maybe Tennessee's best shot at A.J. Brown since A.J. Brown. Like, that could be the guy the Titans take in the second round or depending on the medicals go. Maybe they trade up from the third.

So I think David Bailey is the best plan. And then the Titans just go for a receiver later. Well, what if it starts Mendoza, Reese Bailey? And then they're deciding between Ruben Bain and Jeremiah Love or whoever else, Sonny Stiles. What are they doing? I think the Titans would take Jeremiah Love in that situation because I don't think, I think Robert Salo will care about Rubin Bain's arm length. I think that Robert Sal is more likely to care,

but Robert Sal would probably prefer David Bailey, is my guess. And then I think if Bain is, but I do think Ruben Bain most, I think if Ruben Bain gets to Washington, I think that's the lowest they'll go. I think Ruben Bain could go really high. Could they take an offensive lineman? I know that they've got some guys already, but.

Titans, no, I'd be really shocked because they have, they've spent a lot of money in picks there. I mean, maybe, but I think the defensive players, Sala needs a stable defensive line. Greg brought up Sonny Stiles. That's an interesting one. It'd be like the Fred Warner thing for San Francisco, and it depends how they feel about him.

But I just feel like it's about Cam Ward is the priority. And I just think Daibald's going to be like, I want a Sequin. And Jeremiah Love might even be a better. He's probably a better receiver than Sequin. I mean, Jeremiah loves different runner, different build, but he has better hands than Saquan for sure. Yeah, I was listening to the McShay show the other day.

And he was talking about how Daibol had two picks he really wanted. And it was the quarterback and the running back. It was Dart and Scataboo. Obviously, Scataboo, this is like a fourth rounder, but he like basically got on the table, pounded the table for those two guys. And he could see, McShay could see that happening here.

Especially if the guy that, you know, the GM or the coach, the head coach really wants is gone. Maybe they do end up going with Jeremiah Love. So, and speaking of Daebel and Seekwon, the Giants are not picking number five. This is funny.

I mean, if they trade Dexter Lawrence, the Giants certainly do defensive tackle. You know what's so funny. I feel like I have team blindness here. I feel like I've done so much research on all these other teams. I still have no idea what to do

with the Giants at number five. Just to tell you guys, the truth is a fan. My analyst brain has studied this and is like taking it running back at five is a mistake. My fan brain is like, I want them to do it already so I could just be excited

that the Giants of Jeremiah love. I don't care if it's bad for the cap. When you were celebrating the freaking Tommy Cutlets Ws. You know, you know that meme of Elmo? And Elmo on one hand is looking at all the rotting vegetables and the other one's just the pile of just white powder and elbows just like shoves this thing.

I'm like, give me the cool running back, please. Is there, do they need a right tackle? I think yes. They surmime. They start a right to make an element of order to a deal for 13 million a year. He's 32 years old. Right.

Why would you pass up a good right tackle because you're right tackle? Take a right tackle. And also corner. Go home to your wife. The Giants want to trade down, really, because they could use a cornerback and they could get later a right tackle.

I think the Giants could go with all these things. But I'm like, you probably, I don't know. I don't know why teams, well, we have a 30. two-year-old right tackle. We can't take one. I'm like, just fucking do it. But no one does. There's going to be one there, I think. And I think you should just stay there and take one. I feel like with what this team wants to do, I don't know, the Harbaugh era, they're going to run the ball, get an offensive line.

And you have like Patrick Ricard coming in. Like, it's a different team now. I feel like you got to bulk up the offensive line. But which one? They have, they have, they have two tackles. And they probably isn't a guard good enough. So it's like if you trade down. But the problem is like, it's kind of a reach to take, like, you can take a cornerback here is safety. It's, it's there's not, they're not, they're not, they're kind of in between. two things. Part of me is defensive line makes sense, but they have Abdul Carter and Brian Burns. They're like, well, we can't take Ruben Bayne because we have two edge rushers.

And I'm like, man, just take it another great one. Who's been upset with how many great edge rushers you have? That's never happened. Yeah, no one's been, like, dude, the Giants, I was watching this weird documentary NFL Network has on the 1984 draft where long story short, the Giants could have had, you know, Reggie White's probably the best pass rusher ever up there.

The Giants were going to pair Reggie White with Lawrence Taylor. And they were like, man, man, we already have like all these other guys. Oh. They literally could have got the two best pastures ever. And they're like, we already have people. Like, who cares? Just get good people.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Also, Harbaugh has a history in the past of kind of like double tapping at positions and doubling up on guys. And, you know, even when they're, I don't know if he was in charge, obviously. So with the Ravens, they did that a lot. We can keep rolling here. The Browns are at number six. So the Browns, this is simple. They need everything on offense except running back.

Everything. You can argue they need running back. I could argue that Browns. Coming off that injury. Well, yeah, Dylan Samson last year. I would argue the Browns kept all their bad offensive linemen and lost all the good ones. And then Cleveland's number one receiver is Jerry Judy, who had 12 more catches last year than Keon Coleman did for the bills. Oh.

So not great. So I personally think common sense is just go offensive line than receiver if you're Cleveland. Because if you go receiver and then you might not get offensive line. They have the sixth pick and the 24th pick of the first round. From the Travis Hunter trade. So, DK, I'm curious. If Cardinal Tate is here and Francis Maui is here, what would you do? Because I love Cardinal Tate, but I would go at lineman, but maybe I'm biased.

Yeah, probably Lyman on this one, I think. It's hard, though, because it's the same proposition you had when I remember it was like that Joe Burrow meme where it was like a receiver versus offensive line was Penn A Sewell versus Jamar Chase. and there was like the two pictures of like which one is more useful, getting sacked or throwing it to the elite receiver. I'm like, I don't know. Which one is more helpful to the next quarterback,

whether that Shadur or whoever is going to be down the line, probably offensive line, I think. I'm sure Cardinal Tate is crossing his fingers that they go off. God. Yeah, seriously. You know that meme of Hillary Clinton walking into like an apartment? Like, what the... It's like, hey, here's Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel and Sean Watson.

Welcome to Cleveland. Cardo Tate walks in and he's just like, man, can I go back to Ohio State? I'm so close to Ohio State. Can I just go back? Yeah, it's like that G-League guy we got to Bama. It's like, I didn't even play the game yet. I hope they go offensive line. Yeah, me too.

The Browns are going to be in contention with, it's going to be the Browns versus the Cardinals for who is the worst team in the week next year, I think. That should be a podcast. That's funny. Just piss everyone off. The next team, Washington is picking seven. It's funny. And then the Saints are eight. and I think they're very similar teams than what they need.

But the Washington, they just, offense, they're pretty set, but they need a running back maybe, but they all just need a number two guy behind Terry McLaurin. They need a weapon, whether it's running back a receiver. The receivers behind Terry McLaurin are like, there's nothing there. It's like Luke McCaffrey and Dan McAfric's Van Jefferson.

Yeah, like guys that really fourth receivers rotating in would piss you off. Like you got to go Carnell Tate or Jeremiah, I love. You have to be one of these two guys. Really Washington should go Ohio State because Carinell Tate's perfect. And if he's gone, then Sonny Stiles, the linebacker.

he could replace Bobby Wagner. That's, you know what I mean? Like, that's incredible. And then Or just Front 7, Ruben Bain for Washington. Like Washington is the most set of they're going to get someone they really need. Jeremiah Love, Carnal Tate, Sunny Stiles or Rubin Bain. One of those guys will fall to them. And they all would, that's exactly what Washington needs.

The commanders have Rashad White, who is like a great complimentary piece at running back. They need to slot in a 1A. Who's their other running back? It's Jerome Ford now. Oh, yeah. They signed Jerome Ford. Okay. But it's like.

See, to me, the. commanders are the first team in in this draft where I could talk myself into Jeremiah I love being a good pick for them because I think like I said oh brother I could talk myself into pick four pick five oh I can't and I can't get there with those I mean I think I would if I would if they pick if the titans pick Jeremiah love I'm getting that a terrible grade if the you just don't want me to be happy you don't have fun you don't want me to be happy the only reason I say this is because I think there's a world in which the commanders get back to being what they were two years ago with a healthy Jane Daniels with some of these off season free agents kind of helping fill the gaps that they need,

there's a world in which there are a very good team. I don't think there's any world in which those other two teams are very good teams. The Giants, just say, say their fucking name. There's no world that the Giants with John Harbaugh and Jackson Darry, Malik neighbors tour his fucking ACL. There's no world. We're Jeremy in love Jackson, Dard, and the neighbors is good. How about this? No world in which the Titans are a very good team. The Giants, there is a universe where that happens and everybody's healthy. For sure. And Harba is like a big difference.

Okay. I'll give you that. I still think it's a dumb pick for them. I still think it's a dumb pick for them. With Washington, to me, it's like what? Fifth or seventh was the difference. What? See, to me, we just did this with Seekwon.

That's why. Who was the Giants quarterback when they drafted Seekwan? Eli? Eli was still there. And also the other issue with the Seekwan pick was that the Giants could have traded Sequan for like, they could have moved down four spots. It got three second rounders for the Jets. That's a 15 sport.

You should take the sixth pick in three seconds. instead of Sequin Parkley. If the Giants were offered three second round picks to not take Jeremiah Love you do that every day. To me, it's like, once you already know

you have the quarterback, which I feel much more confident, obviously, about Jane Daniels in Washington than like, I guess what Jackson Darts is going to be. But like, once you know you have the guy, to me, it's time to start looking for some, it's time to start fucking shopping.

And it's like, you have Jane Daniels and you have a 30-year-old Terry McClein and nobody else. Like, you have to go get somebody good that Cardnell Tater, Jeremiah Love. What's the fucking? I can see it with the Giants.

The other variable that I think is interesting here with the commanders, and I heard this the other day, and I was like, oh, that makes so much sense is a lot of people are pairing Brandon Ayuk to the commanders. This is Jane Daniels' former college teammate, Brandon Ayuk, which is also just crazy to think about. They played together at Arizona State early on in Jane Daniels career. So on draft weekend, I think right now the 49ers are like, look, we're going to try and get something for Brandon.

Also, the GM of the commanders drafted Brandon Ayu. Right. There's connections with the 49ers. Good luck. I'm just saying, you think he's crazy or whatever? Good luck trading for him from the Niners. I'm good luck. I'm not kidding. I don't know. We'll see what happens with Brandon Iuk. I don't know enough about this situation. But obviously, yes, there's major red flags there with the things that he was doing towards the end of his tenure in San Francisco. But I'm just saying that could be a variable here that we see instead of them taking Carnell Tate, they go trade for Brandon Ayu.

and take something else at this position, or at this spot in the draft. They're taking Jeremiah Loveviths there, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's the lowest he goes. New Orleans. Poor Bill. Poor Jacori Kroski Merit.

Just out of our lives forever. We'll never forget him. Yeah. What was his name again? Bill. The Saints, speaking to that, the Saints probably signed Travis H.N. Artist formerly known as Travis E.N.

Because they didn't think Jeremy Lever would fall to them. I think the Saints may need, they did it. It's spilled around Tyler Shuck. They did it. The Saints, they need a number two receiver behind Chris Olava. It looks a lot like Washington's depth chart where it's not serious. Everything else, the Saints look good. They just need defense, man, front seven.

I think the Saints could like totally try to win the NFC South this year. They just kind of need a little bit everything. They need defensive line. They need edge rushers. They need linebackers, cornerback, like nickel cornerback. I could see the Saints going any direction. Like they could take Sunny Stiles. They lost tomorrow Davis.

They signed Kada Nell is 30 years old. I'm like, you know what I mean? But I actually think Caleb Towns makes a lot of sense for the Saints. But the Saints are another team like Washington. All the positions they need are going to fall to them. And it's dealer's choice of do you want Ruben Bain? Do you want Sonny Stiles? Do you want Caleb Downs?

All the go, those Cardinal Tate, pick your Ohio State guy or Rubin Bay and I think they all make sense. Yep. Yeah. Could they be a trade down team since that, since that is the case? They trade back a few things and they'll still get a guy they like. I don't think the Saints think that way.

I think this, I don't think so. Yeah, they're the trade up team. They're a trade up team. In the past. The Lions are a trade up team. The Saints are like, we're going to come out of this with four players. The Saints are go big people in the beginning of round one

and then round two, I think the Saints could take like Chris Johnson, the San Diego State quarterback, you know what I mean? Like he could, I think the Saints go big people round one, lower little people round two. Speaking of it, the Chiefs pick nine. So when you look at needs, the obvious, the ones that jump out of you go like,

well, they lost their whole secondary and the Chiefs need that and the receiver corps, blah, blah, blah, blah. The more I think about this, the Kansas City Chiefs need a freaking right tackle. Like they need to protect Patrick Mahomes. And I really think that this, This is the one that hasn't been talked about enough. When Patrick Mahomes did that quarterback sneak like in 2019, 20, when they won the Super Bowl,

and he like dislocated his kneecap. Yeah. D.K., how did Andy Reid respond to Patrick Burm's dislocating his kneecap on a quarterback sneak? Never sneaking him again. Literally he has not done it since. Seven years. He's like, I ain't never doing that shit again. I still remember where I was that exact moment that happened.

It was like just a monumental like moment in the league. Yeah. He stopped, he stopped sneaking him. Who do they do it now with, like Kelsey or whoever? Well, now they have Justin Fields. And yeah, they had Blake Bell do it. They would have Titans do it. It's so funny because, like,

quarterbacks really don't get hurt and sneaking usually. I know. It doesn't seem like, it's just like, it was such a knee-jerk reaction, no pun intended. Yeah. It's very like parents sitting in the stands energy of like, like my son's not allowed to do it. Well, it's like taste aversion or what's it called?

It's like, if you like get food poisoning, you're like, you know, I don't drink shit. I threw up in college once. That was a long time ago. That's cinnamon toast, brunch for me. Oh, really? Really? The cereal, yeah. You won't eat it? You had a bad experience? I had, I puked after eating it. I'm like, now I see it, I'm like, oh, God.

This was like 30 years ago. And I still have that feeling. Well, that's why I think the Chiefs are going to take a sailor jerrys. Ooh. Sailor Jers, I don't even know what that is. What is that? bar? No, Sailor Jerry's the alcohol. You never had Sailor jerrys? Oh, I thought it was a cereal. It sounds so classy, Craig. I can't imagine. It's rum, which is at the bottom of my list. Yeah. Spiced rum.

I would ask people to email us, but I feel like they're all the same story. It's like I had a lot of the cheapest thing imaginable in a plastic bottle and then I threw up everywhere. Yeah. Yeah, Vladimir was, yeah, it's not great. Anyway, I think Patrick Mons tore his ACL and Andy Reid thinks about it every day and they're going to take a right tackle because you know what the chiefs did after he tore his ACL? They cut the right tackle, Joanne Taylor.

So they're like, yeah, Jalen Moore. He's good enough. I'm like, no way. They're going to take a right tackle here, I feel like. And I think it's going to be Spencer Fano. You think of, you think there's no. No shot of Cardinal Tate is there that they'll take him. I think it's possible.

Like, I think it's certainly possible, but I just keep thinking. It just occurred to me the other day. It was like, this guy, Andy Reed, has refused. It won't even sneak Mahomes anymore when he got hurt seven years ago. He's fine. He won the Super Bowl that year. Mahomes is like, I'm going to play week one. He's not going to be able to protect himself.

You're going to have, this was Trent Williams's backup left tackle. It's not going to be the chief starting right tackle. And they're like, great, done, fixed it. That doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, I agree with you. It's a bad plan. We should also say, correct me if I'm wrong. Did the NFL clear Rishi Rice of the abuse allegations?

Yeah. They did, right? Yeah. Well, that's what I saw. I think that that investigation is over and they decided not to discipline him. It's a civil, it's a civil lawsuit Rish Rice is facing, and the NFL has basically decided that they will, it's a much higher bar for them to look into civil cases than criminal. So it's very likely that Rish Rice is playing week one. Yeah.

And then they also used a first-arm pick on Xavier Worthy. They probably go trenches here. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. or corner, but that's kind of against what they've done in the past in terms of like building their defensive backs group. The chiefs could take the cornerback here. The later rounds.

The chiefs have found cornerbacks in the first round, the third round, the fourth round, the sixth round, the seventh round. They can find them anywhere. So I'm like, take a tackle. But maybe that's just me being like stop trying to cheap out a tackle for my host. The Bengals attend, this is the easiest one in the whole list. The Bengals, they let, Bengals allowed 147 rushing yards a game last year. Yeah. Defense.

It's again, they could go any position. But like they went in a boy, Moffey this year. They got Brian Cook, the safety. Jonathan Allen. The thing I wish we had talked. Yeah, Jonathan Allen. So they could go D-line. They could go, I think they, I mean, cornerback, nickel. I think Caleb Downs is also. Downs is the one that. Yeah.

The thing we didn't talk about enough last year is that the Bengals, it's hard to look this up. But the Bengals might have been the only team in 70 or 80 years to start two rookie inside linebackers next to each other as the without a veteran. Like maybe there's been three linebackers back in the day when you'd start three with a veteran, but like the only linebackers in the field, both being rookies.

Like the field generals. Yeah. May have never happened before and that, and it was horrific. So the Bengals kind of need a linebacker, but adding another 22 year old linebacker is kind of dumb, but I don't know what they're doing. If Sonny Stiles is on the board there,

I think they'd take him. Yeah, I don't know. But anyway, yeah, this is defense for the Bengals makes sense. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises, like spilling coffee everywhere, five minutes before a meeting,

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This is really fun. The Dolphins number one receiver is Jalen Tolbert, and I think their number one cornerback is Storm Duck. Storm duck. I should have added the dolphins in the race for the worst overall team in the league next year with Arizona and Cleveland. My apologies. Yeah, Dolphins, Carlos is going to forgive you.

I still actually kind of think, though, the Dolphins have a lot of picks in this draft. They have the 11th pick. They have the 30th pick after trading Jalen Wattle in Denver. They have four picks in the third. round. I actually kind of think the Dolphins should get a guard, Vega, Yawane, and then you have four picks in the third to use one to trade up and you have three picks in the third. I think they should get receivers later. Like if Cardinal Tate falls to Miami, sure, but I actually think Miami should go O-line or edge, and then they just load up on receiver. Receiver cornerbacks the

deepest position in the draft. I think that's what you should do in all the second, third round picks. So remind me some of the things that the Packers, Packers that were just always constantly picking defensive players, trench players. And now this is like basically, you know, Packers South. And so yeah, to me it's like invest in the trenches, invest in the big guys, invest in big, large human beings that could move very fast. The Packers are the type of team they're going to be. I mean, this is Devon A. Chan and Malik Willis and no receivers.

Maybe Devon A. Chan. I don't know if you saw Craig, but he's, he's quote, holding it. It's voluntary. So I don't think that's really counts as a whole. out, but he did not show up to the offseason voluntary OTAs or whatever it is they're holding right now. So there's a lot of, I guess, thought that he may be trying to force a trade or maybe trying to get a new contract. Yeah. I mean, the orphans are doing a long-term big boy rebuild. They need everything. H.M. C's the leverage he has right now as like the only exciting player

left on the team. I mean, good luck. That's probably a stretch. But like, yeah, he's one of the top guys now. Dallas is picking 12th or exactly like Cincinnati defense. I mean, the bank i mean the cowboys i actually think the cowboys offense might be underrated because i think their offensive line is the chance to like every year yeah and could be really good the cowboys allowed the most points in the NFL last year so yeah they need defense everywhere i mean inside linebacker safety cornerback edge rusher shockingly like the cowboys literally need anything they have the 20th pick two from the micha parsons trade so congrats defense defense is what i've been giving them in mock drafts and i think that's probably what they'll do the only thing i want to note on the cowboys other

than again obviously edge rusher the cowboys have three linebackers on their entire team but one of them is de Marvin overshone, who has been in and out of the lineup with injuries. So that, I mean, the Cowboys have to take a linebacker in the first three rounds. Like they literally, three linebackers is you can't do that. Jacob Rodriguez would be a lot of fun on the pack, on the, on the, on the Cowboys. Maybe in the second round. I wouldn't be, yeah, they're going to have to do it. This is where things get really interesting.

The Rams of the 13th pick, and I just put the biggest need is the Rams, whatever will us win a Super Bowl immediately as soon as possible, please. They like to make big, they like to make big moves. Fuck them picks. Big sexy, splashy moves. 100%. I mean, I remember a couple years ago on draft weekend, they were trying to move up for for Brock Bowers.

The Rams terrified me. I hate the Rams. They always make these cool ass moves. And I can see that absolutely happening here. Who does that, who do you think is this like an AJ Brown spot? I think AJ Brown's going to go to the Patriots. I really do. I think AJ Brown's going to go to the Patriots.

and I think the Rams, I don't think the Rams are going to do this, but I think the Rams should take one of their young defensive linemen and put them in a trade with a first-run pick to the Raiders. I think they should send the Raiders a player in a first-round pick. Kind of like when the Bears traded, the Caleb Williams trade-up, the DJ Moore was kind of counted like a first-round pick in value.

I think the Rams should trade for Max Grosby, honest to God. Oh, God. I have this, like, running joke that all the great players end up in the NFC West, And it's just like just to make me upset. And it's because if you go back throughout the years, like all these great players always get traded to the NFC West teams. You're right. Hype is that a couple things line up nicely with that.

Rams don't care about picks. The Rams need to win right now. Matt's staff is 37 years old. Max Crosby, regardless of like his health and whatever, he's good right now and he's 30 right now. And that's fine because like, cool, you just need him for like a year or two. Yeah. And just and also he's super motivated. And it's like, I mean, I used to they've got the airstream thing.

They could throw him in at all times during not practice. Heal them up in the back to tank, whatever's in there. I don't know. Easy drive. I mean, shit, four or five hours. The dry, the dry nice weather could be good. No, actually, he's already in Vegas. So that doesn't matter.

The weather, the weather's a little better in L.A. It's not as hot. Yeah. I was thinking about the other day with the A's guy building a baseball stadium in the strip. And I'm like, would you go to Vegas in July and be like, you know what I want to do right now? Let's sit in the sun for three hours. Well, it's going to be in a dome. The stadium's going to have a dome.

I fucking has to It's gonna be 110 degrees every day Which I don't like dome baseball stadiums It's not what baseball is about No, it's not as fun That's the losing recipes All these NFL stadiums getting domes makes sense But it's sad

Well at least with the NFL they're doing retractable roofs But then it still takes away from like The whole point is that if it is snowing You got to play in the snow If they just put the roof up and it's like well People get so mad about the weather and football now in that Broncos Patriots game. Also, as if that Broncos Patriots championship game

was great before the weather started snowing. Like that game sucked before it started snowing. But I love about football as it's anywhere, anytime. It's just no other sports like that. You, me, on the field, we're doing it. It's rare. It's rare in 2020, in the modern age that, like, you can't pick exactly what you want.

You can't have exactly your preferences, and it's cool that football specifically is still just like at the winter. of Mother Nature. Yes, it's literally, it's just been doing war cosplay. It is. And they're like, well, it's raining.

It's like, well, suck it up, man. Who cares? That's baseball. The ball is slippery. My fingers hurt. Ravens are picking 14. Ravens need more than you think, man. Well, they lost a lot.

They did. This off season, yeah. They lost Max Crosby. That must have been brutal for them. He was there for almost 12 hours. I know. They kicked him to the curb. They got Trey Hendricksson.

Hey, what's up? Less good Max Crosby. Yeah, now they need it. Now they need a puzzle. They call them Max with one X. But they're kind of like the two first round picks are like right behind Hendrickson. So it kind of works out really well. More like sign Hendrickson.

Yeah. Trey Hendricks. When do you think the Ravens have not been great at draft and wide receivers? When do you think they're going to take another whack at this? Because it's still kind of Zayflowers and Rashon Baton. Everyone says this about the Ravens in this draft. And I'm actually, I think that's like Zayflowers and Bateman were first rounders. I don't think the Raven should take a receiver here.

I'm like, you're going to have three men first. Like you've already tried this. Please stop trying. Yeah, I don't know. The Ravens, here's the thing. They need a lot. They have two tight ends on the roster. They literally have Mark Andrews and one other guy.

Like because they lost this. So they have two tight ends. They need a center because Tyler Lindelbaum left. They still need a left guard because I don't think Andrew Vorties is very good. And then they need like a lot in defense. They need an edge rusher who can actually defend the run, which Trey Hendrickson can't. he can't he's nobody on the Ravens had five sacks last year

not one who is the really good player who's going to fall into the Ravens lap like we see every single year what's like the Jesse Minter pick what is like the versatile defensive player that makes sense defensive back like a nickel back like a yeah who's that guy

is it Caleb Downs but they've already done that with safety I feel like they probably wouldn't do that again would be so good together I think the Ravens the Ravens thing where the Ravens just sit there and get a good player fall with the lap is, I think, Vega, Yuane, the Penn State Guard, who's kind of like a Linderbom where he's, like, a great player at a man position that would fall to them. Or Ruben Bain.

If Ruben Bain did fall because of the short office, I actually don't think he will. Ruben Bain, I think this is the lowest, there's no way Ruben Bain falls below 14. He's a guy we haven't really, I feel like he hasn't been on any of these lists, these last 13 teams. Like, we haven't really mentioned, like, oh, this might be the Rubin Bain team. We haven't really done that yet. I think some teams have Rubin Bain listed as, like, a three tech, a defensive tackle that they won't take in the first round. And I think some teams have Ruben Bain third.

Like literally third on the entire in the entire draft. Bain would make a lot of say. He would look great in a Ravens uniform. I feel like he's that he's a Ravensy type of player. Maybe outside of the arm length thing, but just in terms of the power and just, like Hyvet says, the violence that he plays with, it just makes so much sense that he would be on the Ravens. He does play like a Raven.

There's a lot of, it's just funny. It just depends on teams and whether they care about the. the arm length thing. It's just the hinge. It's the do you actually care about that setting of the, no, actually he can't, like he has to be six feet tall. He can't be shorter than me. But with the arm length. It's how you use it.

It's how you swing it. The motion in the ocean. I really do think the room is going to be great. Tampa Bay Buccaneers may need save Todd Bowles' job. Yeah, the buck's defense has negative EPA per play the last two seasons. It was positive the previous five years.

I just think they need an edge rusher. They don't They don't, they can't have a project. They need someone that's going to contribute. I just keep thinking about a key messador. Again, the running partner for Miami is the defensive end. Or a tight end like Kenyon Sadiq, but I do think they need someone who can contribute, D.K. Keldrick Falk would be an interesting one for them. Yeah.

Tons of upside there. Tackle. I don't think they're going to take a tight end. Didn't they, they re-signed Otton. No, I mean, their offense is fine. I mean, they have Ibuka, Godwin, you have Bucky Irving. Well, they lost Mike Evans and Levanta and David. where it's like the best offensive player in team history

and Levanti David's the best one defensive player in 20 years. Evans, they kind of, I mean, they have a Buka. They have got they have those guys. Yeah, they had they've been like loading up at the receiver position over the years. So they should they should be okay there. I got to tell you as I keep going through this all the team needs the bucks on the most like weird spot. You never know what to do with them.

Historically they've taken a lot of trench guys. Yeah. The Colts are not picking 16th because they traded this pick to the Jets. So the Colts have a second. rounder, a third, a fourth, kind of need a lot for this team that went all in. I mean, I think a linebacker, they still haven't really replaced Shaq Leonard as their inside linebacker. He was rookie the year in the second round. I feel like they need. And they've lost quitty pay, an edge rusher. And I think they probably should go edge rusher just because it's a

deep draft. They might get one in the second round. But they're not really in position to trade up. So kind of good to take whatever they can get. But I, yeah, I don't think. I mean, Chris Bell, it does seem like a guy that Chris Ballard might like. I don't know. Yeah, he likes big fast guys. That makes a lot of sense, actually. And he has, I don't know if maybe this is like something he's learned. He's learned doesn't work, but he's a guy in the past. I think that's taken injured guys and like look to benefit from the discount that an injured player brings.

And then, you know, a year or two down the line, they look like great values. He's done that a handful of times. I'm looking at the edge guys at this area in the middle of the second round or whatever, Gabe Accus, Malachi Lawrence, R. Mason Thomas. T.J. Parker, some of the names that might be there. T.J. Parker might go earlier, but Zion Young. There's a lot of, you know, big physical,

defensive end type players. I think Ballard would like that would kind of fit into what they were doing. The Detroit Lions pick 17th. I'm calling my shot. I think the Lions are going to, like, not only take an offensive line here, I think they're going to trade up to do it. Because the Lions, they just, the number one need.

Like, the Lions have needed an edge rush and a quarterback for three or four years. The Lions need to be the Lions again. They need a mauling tackle, whether it's Penesu goes left tackle, right tackle, whatever. I think they need a fucking ass kicker. Like they need a motherfucker either guard or left tackle or right tackle, whatever they, Penneous was going to play. Maybe the trade up from Monroe Freeling. I don't know who it is Vega, you want it, but I think they're going to have some player that Brad Holmes, the GM loves and Dan Campbell loves. And they're just going to go get him, even if it's a crazy price.

Yeah. That's something they do every year. I mean, even the trade up for Isaac to Slaw was expensive. They just have, when they have conviction on a player, they're like, I don't care. Let's just go get him. There's been so much turnaround on that offensive line

since the days of only what, two, three years ago when they were a fucking juggernaut. But the offensive line has completely been turned over outside of Penaiseau. May need. Return to Danny Kelly calling the lion's the most aesthetically pleasing

football team of all time. No, I miss it. Vikings are picking 18th. Honestly, I'm going to lump him with the Panthers picking 19th because these teams are just oddly similar. They both really need a safety.

And I think both these teams really want Dylan Teanaman, the safety from Oregon, to follow them, and the Vikings are just picking first. And I think the Vikings will get them because they don't think the Panthers are going to trade up. So I really do think the Vikings take Teanaman or a defensive tackle. And I think the Panthers maybe get a defensive tackle too. Like both teams, I think could use a safety or defensive tackle.

And I think that it's Dylan Teanman, Romano, Romano, McNeill-Warren, the Toledo guy. And then it's just Wood-Peter Wood's the Clemson defensive tackle. But I think both these, and they also kind of need a number of three receiver. They both have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addiston from Minnesota, Jalen A third receiver left. Panthers have Jalen Coker and Tett McMillan, but like, Nover, Xavier Lidd get third receiver kind of sucks. So they're both kind of similar spots. Is Caden McDonald an option here potentially?

I know that he's more of just like he's known as a run defender, but I feel like he's getting a lot of hype right now as a sleeper that's going to go a little bit higher than people think. Teams need defensive tackles. We were talking about this the last episode, but if you want, again, the too high safety thing, it's not that. If you want to have more players in pass coverage, you need to be able to fit the run with six and fit of seven people. Not to make it all fucking six, seven. God damn it every time. But you need to- No one would have noticed it if you hadn't said anything.

I need to stop acknowledging it. Do you think Harrison Smith having such a successful career as a white safety in Minnesota will make them think about Dylan and Tiananman? Yes. A little bit more. Absolutely. It's human nature, Craig. You know, Dylan Tiananman, you know, does the athleticism, matter. No, it's the cerebral nature. Jim rat. Cerebra. The coach's son. Game feel.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Tinaman, honestly, is, I think he's kind of like Mika, Fitzpatrick. Okay. Honestly, the Vikings Panthers are weirdly similar to me. So, they're 18, 19. Packers pick 20. Well, they don't pick 20. They traded this pick for Michael Parsons. They don't have first run pick. The Packers have a second rounder. I actually wanted to flag the Packers as I feel like, if you guys agree, I feel like I don't look at the Packers as a Starr's team. They're like a depth team. It's like they always have been.

It's been Rogers in depth. Packers have no depth. Like it is, they lost Malik Willis is their backup quarterback. They lost Rashid Walker as their left tackle. And they have, you know what I mean? They lost cornerbacks.

They lost the most players of any team in free agency, Green Bay did. And so you actually like, you know, they lost Romeo Dobbs. Well, they have receivers there. They lost their left tackle. Well, we've a first rounder who can slide over.

But like, they just kind of need everything. They lost Kingsley and Ibarry and Rashon, edge rush, your Michael Parsons coming out from a 20th seal court. Like the Packers don't have, neither have top end talent, but they still kind of need

depth everywhere. So I think the Packers are a team that are going to have to trade back, honestly, like a lot. I think the Green Bay is going to have a crew picks. Yeah. Yes.

Yeah, that would be their MO. I think that makes a lot of sense. Packers in a weird spot, just as a team. Especially in that division. It's a brutal division. Yeah. I don't know if they are,

if they are gaining momentum or slowing down, you know? I think from the outside looking in it, It feels like they're slowing down. But, you know, Jordan Love is still a very good quarterback. So that kind of is like all bets are off what he does. If he's, if he's great, then they're going to be great. Yeah, I agree.

I want to shout out Tyler Brooke who shouted out Danny Dinnies Sutton, Penn State Edge Russia. That makes sense in the second round. Yeah. But yeah, there's a lot. The Greenbitties. Steelers are 21. Craig, what's, where are you leaning right now?

I want, I want a left tackle or a receiver. probably a tackle. I mean, I say this all the time. But Broderick Jones, even their guard on the left side, Spencer Anderson, who was like their swing guy last year, is kind of like their main guard now. I don't know. If it's Aaron Rogers, I just want more help up there.

And I want the left side of the line to be short up and then maybe take a receiver in the second round. I agree. Isaac Sayamalo was your left guard. He went to Arizona. I think he was key to making you guys more respectable run team. But the idea that you're going to have, is Aaron Rogers 43 years old? 42.

I do think he's coming back, but 42. The left side of your offensive line is really bad. Roger Jones is not it. He sacked Aaron Rogers. The worst hit Rogers took all year was from his left tackle hitting him. Yeah. So do you want like Jordan Tyson, the Arizona State receiver, or do you want like Caden Proctor as 6'7, 340 pound left tackle?

As much as I like Jordan Tyson, I want Caden Proctor. The Steelers have a ton of middle. The Steelers have 12 picks in this draft. They have a ton of third rounders. Like, if they like a wide receiver, they can go get them in the second. And I would much rather than do that. Caleb Lomu from Utah is another guy that's probably going to be in that range. If the Georgia tackle...

Monroe Freeling. Yeah, Monroe Freeling. If he's there, that could make sense for that. Omar Cooper feels like a stealer. Like, go get him in the second round and take a lineman in the first. Jordan Tyson was coached by Heinz Ward. That's right. But he's not tough, according to the scouts.

Well, only when the ball's in the air. other than that the one the the the sleeper pick here Arizona tackle Max Ahanachor I'm probably butchering his name a little bit here no no that was that was correct he's he's a really intriguing guy too because of his movement skills he's new to football but already shows I guess like a veteran type ability to mirror on the edge and marry his hands with his legs or his feet so I think he's a really interesting one too he plays right tackle but I mean I don't know

teams teams are have been willing to move guys to different positions or whatever. And so I think he's, he's an interesting one. I just figured out the best outcome for this show. The Steelers take Jordan Tyson. Craig is absolutely elated. And then Aaron Rogers does not throw him to football all year because he's,

Aaron Rogers fucking hates him. That's a good point. He runs one wrong route. Aaron Rogers has been bitching about not getting first on wide receivers for years. He should be happy. No, tackle then receiver. That's what I want. Yeah.

And then he won't throw the ball into that receiver. Or maybe I'll throw the call on the Cady Proctor. He caught a couple passes. If they take a guard, is that too high? I don't know. It's hard for me. I defer to you people. I deferred to the experts.

Depends to you people. If you tell me the guard's really good, I'll be happy. But I'm not going to be upset about an offensive lineman. I mean, if Vega, Yawane is there fucking run to the podium. Sure. He's a stealer. He's a lion. He does have that, he does have that light quality, though.

I see what you're saying. You want I. It's just flat. Just putting people on their backs. Well, this is the last spot. could go. The latest he could go. I think it's the charges here at 22. Because the charges, I was looking at their team needs and the charges remind me the cheese where you can have all this stuff. But you zoom out. The most important thing is that Justin Herbert was the most hit quarterback in the NFL last year. It took more hits than anybody. If they don't take a goddamn offensive lineman, I'm going to freak out. But their whole line got hurt. Well, let's say, I don't care. I don't care. Maybe two first round tackles. Not enough. Maybe you need a third. Legitably first round tackle. Yes. Like, maybe. that's the answer. I do think that the

signing the center, Tyler Bayottish was smart like for a lot of reasons from Washington. They'd beat the mid-market and Tyler Linderbaum. They don't have to do a comp pick for him. But the guards, it's like a hope more than a plan. It's Trevor Penning and Cole Strange. Take a guard. Yeah. So I really think this is the latest Vega you want it could possibly go. I think he could go really high.

But I think a guard here makes sense for the charges. I think the charges trade back. They only have five picks. And the charges, I think they don't have the beef you think of with the Jim Harbaugh team. When I think of Jim Harbaugh, I don't think of guard is a weakness, but it is. And the flip side is the charges also really need edge rusher. Like they have Tuli,

Tui Polo, who's the Howe-Palotu, who's the Howe-State guy, he's good. He's 23 years old. Bud Dupree is going to play for the charges this year. He's like 33. Bud Dupree is still in the league? I know. I didn't know that too. I've heard that name forever.

Kluomack is 35. Like the charges need an edge rusher as well. I think the charges are going to trade back from 22, man. Like this is like, if you're a quarterback, if you want a quarterback, if you want Ty Simpson, but you don't want to take them high, I think this is where the Chargers start taking calls. And I think Ty Simpson probably gets picked at this 22nd pick slot. Ooh, interesting.

Very interesting. They just need more picks and cornerbacks. They need a lot. Joe Hortiz. What's his deal? Is he like trading back? Yeah, he came from Baltimore. I know, he's my doppelganger.

He's your chopper ganger. Chopper ganger. No, he's a good looking guy. Come on. You're a great looking guy, though. Sure. But I hear all the time. The Chargers are a Super Bowl caliber team, but they don't have Super Bowl

depth. They need cornerbacks. They need edge rushers. Super Bowl teams are not light on those things. Eagles at 23, speaking of which, I feel like the Eagles got great because their offensive line and defensive line were impossibly talented

and deep and it's not really the case. And the Eagles sneakily need a lot. They need to replace A.J. Brown because I think they're going to trade them or at least next year. Well, they did. They got Hollywood Brown. It's problem solved.

Good point. It's like Russian nesting dolls. I think they could use a Denzel Boston or Chris Bell to replace AJ Brown. They're going to need to replace Lane Johnson, who's coming back this year, but he's going to retire eventually. And I think they could do the Jason Kelsey

where you get his lane Johnson. They're going to take an offensive alignment. I think so, but they need defensive alignment too. They lost Jalen Phillips to the Panthers. And so the Eagles knee a lot, like way more than you think. Feels like their inability to run the ball last year

was like the whole issue. And it opens up Jalen hurts his game and they can run the ball. It feels like they're going to get a lineman, offensive linemen. Especially losing Jeff Stoutland, who I think I still view as like some companies, just the entire facets of society rely in a single Excel file and, you know.

How could they let him go? That is the most unbelievable story to me in this whole off season. Like, it's flying under the radar way. I don't feel like people are talking about it enough. They let their most important person go because of not getting along with the head coach who does nothing. Dude, Jordan Milata, who went from having never played football to playing, being a top five left tackle, wept. This is where you get rid of Seriali and make Stoutle in the head coach. Come on.

What are we doing here? Yeah, I, well, he's under contract. I keep thinking, man, whoever signs him, I just like, man, I want just out of the Giants next year. But yeah, the Eagles, I think they go online. I agree. We're trade back. I bet they trade A.J. Brown on draft weekend, too.

Patriots? I think, I think A.J. Brown is New England. And maybe A.G. Brand's not during the draft. Maybe it's after the dead money. And maybe it's next year. But I do think A.J. Brank goes to the Patriots. Jaguars are 24. I get nothing.

They're a stack team. They don't need. anything. I mean, maybe they need a better running, but they sign, they sound like one outside free agent. They sent Chris Rodriguez from Washington. Yeah, dude, they literally have the, like, their starting 22 players last year might be their starting 22

players this year. It's crazy. Including Travis Hunter, going to quarterback. That's right. The Jags, they don't need any, I mean, they probably need a linebacker to replace Devin Lloyd. Again, the Super Bowl team, you need more defensive tackles, defensive ends, cornerbacks. Those Super Bowl team runs out of those, but they're very flexible.

And they need more picks because, again, the Travis on a trade. It seems like they're not trading Brian Thomas. I don't think they should. I don't think that makes any sense to me. I think that Brian Thomas's early issues were because Liam Cohen wanted him to do some Chris Godwin-st stuff and Brian Thomas needs to not. And now it's just

like go deep. Also just doesn't make sense to trade him at like the low point of his value. Yeah. Unless he's a total malcontent, which I don't get the impression he is. Chicago picks 25th. I think this is easy. Like the Bears' offense.

I think is Super Bowl caliber, I think the Bears defense is not close. Like the Bears defense does not look like teams that would. Like the Bears advanced because they had what they led the league in turnovers and they just kept pulling horses out of their ass. Caleb Williams kept them to do these comeback wins. But I mean, the Bears,

their defensive tackles are not good enough to win a Super Bowl. They've won good edge rush around to sweat. Like I think they need a lot of help on defense. And then they could be like a special team. But I think Chicago needs some real beef. Yeah. It's a good spot right there to get an edge player, I think. But remember Ben Johnson, I mean, he went on fourth down against Green Bay six times.

And I'm like, how much of that's analytics and how much is actually, he actually does not think his defense. Right. Right. Yeah. Defensive tackle, defensive end. I think there's going to be a lot of good players at that, at this spot still. I think Caden McDonald makes a ton of sense for Chicago here, the Ohio State defensive tackle. I think that makes sense.

I could see that 100%. Yeah. Bills are picking 26. I need pass rush your man. I mean, Greg Rousseau is on one side. Then you have Michael, Michael Hoyt returning from Achilles' tear. Joey Bosa really kind of blew it in the playoffs. Now they're doing Bradley Chub who can never stay healthy.

I, like, I just, they traded the second rounder for D.G. Morb. I think the bill's, like, they need a pass rusher. Like, they just don't have a pass rush. They need a difference maker on defense. Yeah. Like, the chiefs got George Carl Offtus in the first round a few years ago, and that really made a, I mean, they went to, what, two Super Bowls in a row after that he got that. Like, they need that.

The bills need to impact pass rush for at the end here, especially with Sean McDermott's defense is gone, right? So they're really changing out a lot of those starters. I agree, defense. I think T.J. Parker, the Clemson guy, D.K., like this is where those guys start to creep up. And you're like, oh, all things equal. Just take Gabe J.K.I.C. or T.J. Parker from Clemson, like, this is where those guys go. I could see either of those guys for sure.

They both feel like bills. Billy. Billy? Yeah, like rugged can play in the snow. I don't know why that matters for a defensive player, but it does. It just feels like they're both rugged players. Well, no snow anymore. I was going to say it's a dome now. Oh, they, because they ruined football.

Are they doing a dome? Well, it's retractable. Okay. Ridiculous. What that means when it's, like, what is that? Like, so they're only going to open it up when it's nice weather and they're just going to close it down in the winter? Yeah. So if it's sunny, they'll have it open.

Or if there's a Logan Paul fight, they'll put the curtains up. I think the, I think the fans should be able to vote. They should decide. Democracy. That's actually, that's a top-tier correct idea. Fans get to vote on weather roofs. But here's the, it has to be fans with tickets, though. Otherwise, all the fans with tickets.

I know. Then you're going to have Howard Stern called Stadium McStadium Face. No, yeah. Stadium and Stadium face says curtains up, Jerry. Harambe Stadium. Two days before the game, the ticket holder should get to vote. Honestly, it's a great fucking idea. Like, what kind of mood are we in right now?

Yeah, it's like, oh, check the weather. What's it going to be? 26 and snowing? Fuck it. They're like, it's a negative 11 degrees. There's a lake effect snow of two feet. We got to put that in the fans are like, no. Who's on the other side?

If it's like a team that's used to the snow, maybe we don't, maybe, you know. Miami's coming to town. Miami's coming, fucking leave it open. Jared Goff's ass is coming to town. We're opening the door. We're opening the roof. We're putting in snow machines. We need more snow.

Yeah. Damn, that's Craig. That's a, that's a great idea. Niners are picking 27th. This is a real like push pull between do you care about now or do you care about the future? Because now, this year, the Niners need like a left guard. and a safety. But then if you actually want to dare think about the future for again,

Kyle Shannon, instead they took Jake Moody in the third round because he's like, well, there were no other positions a player could start. So we took a kicker. But if the diners dare to think ahead, Trent Williams is 37 years old and wants more money. Yeah.

Like the receivers are Mike Evans is 32. Christian Kirk's the oldest 29 I know of. And like Ricky Parasol has barely played, but he's like almost 26 before week one. and then George Kittle's 32 off an Achilles injury and Drake Greenlaw is 30 something, or he's coming off an Achilles injury. Like they need, Liner's need a lot in the future.

McAfree will also be 30 this summer. Oh, yeah. The Niners in two years are going to look very different. Yeah, this is like go for it a year. Yeah. The Rams are growing, and I do think it's the first episode of succession. Like sometimes business is a big dick contest.

It's like, are the Niners going to let Sean McVeigh big dick them trying to beat the Seahawks. It's like an arms race. You gear up and you go for it. Yeah. So, man, the NFC West is a great. He was the most athletic guard that Shadahan will just be like, fuck it. Oh, that's a good question.

Is it pregnone from Oregon? Maybe. Yeah. That was the guy who came to mind. He's super experienced too. I think he could be like a day one starter for them. That's what they'll do, honestly. Pregnon.

All right. I think Texans, dude, the Texans need almost nothing except the Texans have everything to win a Super Bowl except if they could just put joysticks into C.G. Stroud's brain and not have him not put five fumbles again in a game. Honestly, though, they just don't give the game away, man. Maybe don't fumble five times. Yeah. The Texans need guards, but they also need D-tackles. And I'm like, this is where I think, like, can you imagine if Peter Woods from Clemseter Kade McDonald went here? Yeah. I think a defensive tackle or a guard. I think the Texans, they're also like an absolutely going for Lee Hunter, that's a defensive tackle from Texas

tack. Like, I don't know what they take, but, um, I think second round they could come around, take Chase Bissontas, Texas A&M Guard. Like I think the Texans load the fuck up on giant people, and then they try and go win a Super Bowl. You got to take an offensive lineman. Like, you have to do everything you can to help CJ Stroud not fucking panic back there. Also, just help the run games.

Their run game's been super frustrating. They also don't really have a tight end. I mean, they have Dalton Schultz. I mean, could this be a team that takes Sadiq? I think so. Yeah. Damn, I didn't think of that. Should have put it in my nose.

I mean, you know, you have Nico, Collins, they lost Kirk and they lost Diggs. And you're like, all right, you have Nico Collins, Jaden Higgins, tanked L, coming off the injury, and you have Dalton Schultz. It's not like, maybe a guy like Kenyon Cidic would help. Yeah, and they have Cade Stover, but you're probably right. Like they probably aren't as prepared as other teams to kind of do all the big tight end stuff. Like I think Stover hasn't done anything to keep them from drafting a tight end.

No, I agree. Like Brevin Jordan, Kate Stover, I'm kind of like, maybe they don't have the bodies to do a lot of the multi-tidens. Yeah, maybe you're right. And they got David Montgomery running back, you know. probably a guard but yeah big people falcons picked well he would pick 29th well no i just put the falcons here because uh i thought it was more fun to talk about the rams of 13 but the falcons traded the 13th pick to the rams last year for james pierce junior who played great and that now has multiple felony charges who knows if he's going to play falcons quietly have no receivers behind

drake london like i was actually kind of shocked it's like jehan dotson yeah they lost arnell mooney they have Jehan Dotson, who I kind of always liked, but they have Jehan Dotson, Alamede Zakias, and like, that is literally at Casey Washington. I've never heard of like, they don't have anybody. It's like literally Drake London and then Dotson and Zahias. And Pitts is kind of a receiver. Sure.

It's shocking, but yeah, I could see, I could see a receiver. That's a great spot for receiver. I like that. But they have the second, so they have the 48th pick. They have a second round of third rounder and. Yeah, I mean, D.K., the 48th pick, you're looking at what? Omar Cuby, if you're lucky, Chris.

Brazels, Zachary Branch, Jeremy Bernard. Yep, I think the thing that comes to my mind with both, I guess the question is, do you think Tua's going to be starting? Or do you think it's going to be Penix? Either way, I think you have to find a guy that can uncover and get open quickly.

Because I think the game, I think the passing game is going to be rhythm-based at the back foot, get the ball out. But don't you feel like Tua and Pennix have opposite passing charts? Like, you know what I mean? Penix kind of only pushes it outside. It is interesting. That's true. Pennex is like ripping it down the sideline back shoulder and two is like thrown slants.

Yeah, Penix's shot chart is kind of like, like it's probably not Steph Curry, but it's like it's just all around the arc and it right. Yeah. Yeah. I think Brazel would work well with Pennix because he's that big long explosive guy down the field on the side. Skinny Marquez Valdez Scantling. Totally. Even skinnier. Ted Hurst from Georgia State would make a lot of sense for them.

He's a very interesting. Who? Big receiver. Ted Hurst from Georgia State. Ted? His name's Ted? Ted? My dad's name's Ted. His name's Ted Hurst. Georgia State.

Hold on. Do you guys want to take a story? I do have actually some, a few players in this draft and a lie prepared. Ted's just good as an example as any. So I want to shout out Dane Brugler from The Athletic who has a 630 page. The Beast is incredible. It's called The Beast. It is the most in-depth thing ever.

He's the 13th center, the 13th best center in this draft. who will not be drafted. He's like fluent in Portuguese. And I'm like, he has all these facts about their, what they did in their upbringing, all they, what they did in high school, their favorite. It's crazy.

Ice cream flavor. It's just crazy how much detail is in here. So I'm scrolling through and I'm just looking at some. You think I could make my own beast, but about draft scouts. Yeah. Like I have a list. It's like Daniel Jeremiah,

6.3, 205. I'm doing like Danny Kelly. Ben started out in the Ravens. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Top 100 beast for draft scouts. Top 100 draft analyst is, fuck. It's really good. You should do that.

Okay, wait. Your final few teams here. Broncos, not a ton of picks. They flip the first rounder for Jalen Waddle, and they have no third rounder too. So they have a second rounder and then later. They basically need a running back to replace Jackie Dobbin.

They need a linebacker because the fans don't like Alex Singleton, even though it's a heartwarming story. And then they need a tight end because it's Evan Engram and I'm Troutman. But before we even go into that, D.K., someone emailed in, and I'm forgetting your name, I'm sorry, but I'm reading your question, which is what you wanted.

People wanted to know why we thought DJ Moore for the 60th pick to the bills and change is a good deal for the Bears and the Buffalo paid a lot but they wanted to know why we thought the Broncos trading away the 30th pick for Jalen Waddle was smart for Denver even though Jalad Wadle is like sneakily like a year

well they were like he's a year younger he's really two years younger but I wanted the Waddle trade versus the D.J. Moore trade. Because DJ Moore was a malcontent and he's older and they gave him a giant new contract. You know where I stand. Craig thinks it was a good deal. I do.

I think DJ Moore will be better in fantasy and real life. I think the problem was that DJ Moore was last seen lullagging on a route in overtime of the playoffs that could have advanced them to the NFC championship game. And he like gave up on the route. And the entire value of him in Buffalo will be extending plays as Josh Allen creates plays that weren't called in the playoffs. Like its entire value is to like do what he was kicked off the team

In all fairness, it was probably really cold in that game, as we know. And now it's not going to be cold in Buffalo because we have a dome. So it'll be fine. Good point. Also, DJ Moore is a diva and is a superstar and wants to be seen as a superstar. And now he can be. He doesn't have to share the spotlight with anybody else. Jalen Waddle loves sharing.

Yeah, he does. He's a sharer. Yeah. But I agree. This is a fair point. Yeah. Broncos, I want to shout Jonah Coleman. I think makes sense the Broncos.

I think Eli Stowers. He's like kind of like an evident. and I wonder if Sean Pagewood's glass would want Eli Stowers. I don't personally understand tight ends who can't really block anymore. I'd rather get great blocking tight ends and teach him to catch than get a great receiving titan and teach him the like I don't really understand the astronauts question yeah. Yeah exactly. I'd rather teach the astronauts to drill but it's cooler to have drillers that astronaut.

Yeah, that's true. Patriots team meets I was going to write a joke but I was too afraid. So I'm just saying does this pick get traded for AJ Brown the 31st overall pick? That's been widely reported. I don't think it's going to, I don't know. I think they probably wait for A.J. Brand to get traded after the June 1st deadline where the cap money goes down. But I just think overall, edge rush or the Patriots need a pass rush,

but I'm like, Morgan Moses, the right tackle is 35 years old. And the Patriots signed him for $5 million last year and they made the Super Bowl. But like, there's a reason Morgan Moses was available for $5 million. I'm like, you probably need another right tackle. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Isn't that just weird? Drake May's right tackle is 35 years old. Yeah.

D.K. Seahawks, last pick. Yeah. Running back. We're running out of gas here, I think, a little bit. Well, good thing. We're on the 30 second pick. You kept your whole old line and receiver court. You need a bunch of defense.

I think pass rush here. I think corner. Yeah. Those are the main two ones for me. You won the Super Bowl. You don't need much. People are connecting them with running backs at the spot. I hope that doesn't happen.

Hopefully that's a second round thing. But yeah. Do they just have the 30 second pick and then the 64th pick? They have four total picks in this draft. They need to trade. They are going to trade back. Seattle will trade out of that 30th. They probably will trade out.

There's actually probably going to be quite a bit of value for that three second pick because then it's like the first pick of the second round. You kind of have your pick of the litter. Yeah. And you get that 50er option. So they could trade back with a team that wants to take a quarterback in theory there. And so I do see them probably trading back. If I could actually make a draft prediction where I'm like most confident,

something will happen. that isn't like Mendoza to the Raiders. Right. I would say Seattle trading out of the 32nd pick is the most, because they only have four picks, and they will get multiple offers for the 32nd pick. So I think Seattle will trade out of that pick. Okay.

So there's a team needs. Go to NFLDraft.com. Dekhs draft guide, players, big board, team needs, if you want to read the things you just heard. A couple emails. No, no kickers, though. You won't be able to find any kicker information.

Absolutely not. How many kickers get drafted? How many kickers get drafted each year, kind of roughly? I mean, they should be taken six or seven, five. You shouldn't draft kickers at all because the rate of kickers getting drafted is horrific. There's actually no position less likely to be good on their team. Yeah.

I'm not scout. I just refuse. I'm not going to go scout kickers. That's actually like a study. It's in my contract. I'm not doing kickers. There are no position less likely to remain with their team than the kicker you take, no matter where they take them.

Okay. We have an email here about the moon because we got some stuff about Sullivan Moon. No, the real moon wrong. But I also, D.K. We got some stuff about the real world. We were speculating about the moon's rotational situation and we may have gotten some things wrong. Although I think we were spiritually correct. We might need to retire from talking about space.

No, we're just getting going. So, D.K., okay. What was your question with the moon? I wanted to know if the moon just sits up there like a knuckleball. You know what I mean? Because we know the moon is circling the earth. But we were saying, is it spinning while it's doing that? Is it spinning on its own axis?

So we kind of landed on, no. If there's a back side of the moon or a dark side of the moon, which is what we reference it as, the implication or the whatever, the, what we infer there is that we have never seen it. Would that phrase exist if it were not for Pink Floyd? Duckle ball? Oh, Dark Side of the Moon. No. That's a good album too. The Pink Floyd album, Knuckleball is good.

It's a favorite in karaoke. That's a deep cut. That was not released. But if you can find that, it's quite good. anyway Was it a good question, Craig? I don't know. Did they make it a phrase?

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that's stupid. I want to know what the email said about us talking about the moon's rotation. Well, I'll tell you first of all, what Carlos said. When we stopped recording, Carlos was like, you guys are fucking idiots. But then, but then we kind of got to the point where it's like the same, the moon is fixed to the earth in a way where it's kind of always facing us. It is rotating, but with us. So it's almost like it's not.

Right. So we got a, from our perspective. Well, we got a lot of emails about this. So I'm going to read one from Luke, but I understand a lot of people were very mad about us getting the mood wrong. He's from Luke? Here we go. Luke, here we go. Elbone.

Fucking Skywalker over here. What's he got? All right, let's go. Let's get this man's planning over with. Most things I hate, leftovers from past dinners a bagel. Big rector's can't control me. All right. All right, we get it.

Luke says I'm 25. I wish you'd left that out because you're explaining the moon to me. He said, I'm an undergrad degree in physics. I don't use professionally. But I did have to ask, I did have to answer Batike's moon question. the moon is spinning, but the time the moon takes to do one full rotation is the same as the time it takes to revolver on the earth,

which is a bit more than 27 days. That's why we always see the same side of the moon. If the moon was not spinning, we'd see all the sides of the moon throughout the month with our view changing slightly day by day. Isn't that what we said? Yes. I mean, that's what we were implying

or saying kind of indirectly. The reason that this Artemis 2 trip was special is because we're seeing the backside of the moon that even though the moon is spinning, it spins slow enough that we don't ever get to see the opposite side of the moon. The question was basically like, are we seeing the same chunk of moon at all times? Or is it spinning? We see the backside too.

It's, you know, it is spinning. It's spinning, but we see the same part? Right. Yes. Okay. It's like tied to a string or whatever. So Luke says this is due to a process called tidal locking, a kind of orbital residence, a stable state of a ratio between an orbiting bodies, rotation, revolution.

And it's usually between planets and moons, since gravity is. weaker at great distances, the far side of the moon is experiencing weaker gravity than the one that is closest to Earth. This difference in gravity creates a bulge, his words not mine, in the moon that changes positions based on the moon's rotation and the moon's bulge exerts an angular force on the moon itself that impacts its rotation. So if the moon was spinning faster than it was orbiting as it did when it was first form, the bulge created by Earth's gravity would produce a torque that slows down the moon's

rotation. So the Earth big bulged the moon to match its rotation. right that's what that means it's kind of gravity magging gravity magging so here's the question I gotta tell you I feel like I missed the day of school where I learned about this I have gone

well tides I am 31 years old and I still don't totally understand how the moon controls the tides I don't really get it gravity but what the fuck does that mean the moon has its own gravity right and it pulls the water up slightly towards it That is also the extent to which I understand it.

But how does it... Why am I... I'm not going to fucking explain anything that has to do with the moon. I'm asking you guys know. I don't know. I think we were kind of right, D.K. But if the moons... Carlos is saying we definitely said the moon doesn't spin.

But if the moon's rotation... What we were picturing was correct. It is not... Yeah, yeah. If the moon's rotation is the same as the Earth's rotation. I'm not saying I doubt it. I just don't understand it. How does the moon change the tides of the ocean

in obviously very predictable, consistent ways if it's the same? Like, why is the moon... I don't understand. I remember watching something with Neil deGrasse Tyson where he said it's the earth is actually shifting underneath the water. And that's why we have tides that move in and out. No way. Is that it? It's the earth moving, not the water.

So the earth's, the moon is holding the water in place and the earth's moving? Something more or less is what Neil deGrasse Tyson said. Yeah, yeah. Why don't we have someone explain that shit too? Because that is very interesting. Someone explain how the tides work. I got to say, we'd have a blast. with Neil degrass if he came on.

He does a lot of pods. Maybe. Let's reach out. Let's reach out. Maybe he's a football fan. Yeah, dude. Neil, if you want to come on the show, open invite, please email us at Ringar Fantasy Football. I heard he was on the Logan Paul podcast.

Or is it Jake Paul? Which one's the super annoying one? Well, they're both. Keep going. Which one is the one that boxes? Jake. Okay. I think it was his podcast.

But Jake is the more popular boxer. Anyway, he's the more popular boxer. Logan has a more popular podcast, I think. I don't know. One of the fucking Paul brothers was asking, was basically like, you believe in the moon landing? And he basically went off. Neil DeGrasse Tyson did about how, like, stupid you have to be to believe it's not real. Oh, yes, I did see that.

I also love the whole, like, we didn't go to the moon. I'm like, have you ever seen an airplane? It's crazy. Like, that is like 96% of the stuff is the giant heavy metal thing flying. Oh, no, it was Logan Paul he debated the moon landing with. Debated. It's like if you never seen an airplane, you'd be. like that's bullshit. I don't believe in that.

That seems like most of the thing I would get over. Before I keep going, I have a couple more emails, but DK, will you, we have an incredible book that was gifted to us by a long time listening to the show named Matt. Matt, you know who you are. Yeah, we're not allowed to say who this is. Matt, you know what you did. Didn't ask him. And so I'm just going to leave it up there.

Matt, M. Bone. I forgot to actually do that part. But shout out to M. Bone for giving us this book in person at the Combine is the man. And DK, can you, it's playing for kids. It's the history of, what is the subtitle? It's legendary athletes in combat during World War II, which is like exactly our fucking lane. Yeah, this is exactly what we want at all times.

Just players who like won MVPs and then like served and won like the like just one presidential freedom. Yeah, the whole idea Craig has brought up that there just weren't enough people back then. And so everybody from that era just did all the coolest shit imaginable in their lives and were, you know, they played college football, went on to war, then came back, and became billionaires and movie stars and all this shit. So the one guy I want to bring up here, because there's multiple chapters in this, and it's like Yogi Berra is one of the chapters, and there's all these other things.

This guy, the story of Tom Harmon, you know why it caught my eye? Because there's the first page of his chapter, there's a giant newspaper with the giant letters, Harmon missing again. I don't want to laugh about a guy going missing in a war, but it's like, if they would have had like question mark exclamation, question mark exclamation, it would have like made it a little bit, you know, it would just like been right on the nose. Like he's missing again? We keep losing this guy.

Where's he going? Harmon is missing again. Anyway, Tom Harmon. First of all, tailback for University of Michigan, one of the all time. great college football players of his era. He won the Heisman trophy in 1940. He was the first overall pick in the NFL draft to the Bears in 1941. Wow.

He was known as old 98. His nickname was old 98. And he had, he was hailed by the press for his Tarzan physique and power of a wild buffalo. Tarzan physique? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, this guy was a pretty good looking guy.

I think you should Google him while I'm kind of given the background. Tom Harmon. Oh, yeah. He's just thought, you know. He's, why is he old 98? That's just because it's its number? I guess so. Okay.

So, anyway, so he enlisted in the US Army Air Force in 1942, became B-25 pilot. On his way over to, first of all, he named his airplane Little Butch, which was a tongue, quote, a quote, a quote, tongue-in-cheek reference to his then-girlfriend and future wife, Elise Knox, which I don't know if that's, I don't know what that means, little Butch. Interesting. She was an actress, a very famous actress and was in a whole bunch of movies. She was like a fashionista. What's her name? She was very famous. Elie.

Lil Bouch. Will Butch. Elise Knox. K-N-O-X. Oh, yeah. Anyway. So that was his girlfriend at the time. He named his plane after her.

And then he crashed it on his flight over to trying to get in theater. Basically, he was flying to Morocco, but do you have to make a bunch of stops? And he hit a bunch of really. bad weather over French Guyana and crashed. He was the only person to survive this crash. He bailed out over the jungle, spent five days trying to find his way out, got malaria. It was barely survived this jungle ordeal. But then he found a village where they took him out of the village and like a dugout canoe and

made his way home finally. Had to go back to the U.S. and like regain his health or whatever. And then he transferred to the fighter command. So he became a P-38 pilot. You remember the planes with like the two fuselages? And then it was like the pilot or the little cockpit in the middle. Oh, yeah. Okay.

That's a P-38. And he was assigned to the China-Burma India Theater, which we don't talk about as much in the World War II kind of discussion. It's usually Europe and the Pacific. But this was in China, Burma, India Theater under General Pappy-Shanalt. Pappy Chanel legendary, infamous general who helped form the famous Flying Tigers, which I have heard of the Flying Tigers. I had not heard of Pappy Chanel before. But anyways, Harmon on a mission went out over China to, he was trying to disrupt Japanese shipping over the Yangtze River, shot down two zeros, two Japanese fighter planes. And then was shot down.

He landed in a lake, was rescued by. some Chinese guerrillas spent 52 days sorry 32 days being shuttled around hiding spots in China before he escaped and got back to you know allied territory

came back married this model slash actress her wedding dress was made out of the parachute that he bailed out with just so many fucking badass little details of this story he saved the parachute that he used to bail out over China and then turn that

into his wedding dress for the model actress that he came back to. Sorry, I'm getting a little long winded here, but this guy had an incredible life. That's a real man. Craig, do you feel like I feel right now? Do you feel like inadequate? You're a podcaster?

That's like roughly equal. I have more to add on this man when you're done, D.K. Okay. So hold on. Let me get through it. I'll try and get through it quickly, but this guy had a hell of life.

He came back, he played for the Rams for a couple years. Sure. However. The NFL after all this. One of the greatest details. of all time. He didn't, he didn't, he basically his career didn't last very long. He was still kind of like his body was wrecked from, from these two ordeals that he went to do in the war. And he didn't like the T-formation offense that the Rams were running and having broken his nose

13 times, he decided to retire. 13 times? Are they not wearing, I guess they weren't wearing the normal helmets that we typically don't face masks. 13 broken noses. Jesus Christ, man. He went on to two. Ducking French Kayana. Like, that was easy. This sucks. Broken noses. He probably looks like

friggin' Luke Wilson or something. Anyway, or Pete Carroll, I guess. He retired, got into broadcasting, was the first play-by-play announcer for the first televised Rose Bowl. He went on to be the play-by-play guy for the UCLA Bruins in the 60s and 70s. He had three kids.

His youngest, Mark Harmon. That's where I was going to go. He's the fucking dad of the NCIS guide. He's 100% recognizable. Google Mark Harmon. You will recognize him immediately. Mark Harmon is very famous. He's the star of NCIS for 20 years.

This guy's father is Mark Harmon from... Mark Harmon was named Sexiest Man Alive at 1986. I see Mark Harmon walking around Brentwood all the time. That's his dad. I'm going to go up to him. This is his dad. Old 98. Tom Harmon.

Incredible fucking life story. That's what I was going to say. I was like, I literally just clicked this guy's name and I was like, wait a minute. Elise Knox is the mother of Mark Harmon. What the fuck? Dude, you got to ask Mark Harmon if he's still got that wedding dressed parachute. Oh my God. These people lived incredible,

fucking extraordinary lives. Dude. Also, tough beat for the Chicago Bears. He took this guy first overall after winning the Heism. And he said he declined to sign with the Bears saying,

he's like, nah, I'm going to go into broadcasting. He said I was done playing football and I want to be in movies and radio. Fair. Imagine if Fernando Be Does it's just like,

I'm good. I'm going to be an actor, actually. I mean, it's kind of like the A's drafting Kyler Murray and then he decided to play football instead. I just love that

He's like nah Heisman first overall pick I'm gonna go be a movie star Harmon missing again He's missing again Where is this guy I never know what he's doing back there DK what an incredible start

I can't what is the name of this book again Hold on It's called playing for keeps By the way the title of the book Came from a quote from Mark Harmon Who said When he got he when he got his wings or whatever And then his command

And was the pilot of his plane He's like obviously playing college football, a whole different thing. Now we're playing for keeps. Like, basically the gravity of the situation hit him as he was going to war. Dude, his, Elise Knox, his wife died in 2012. She was like 92 or something. She was 90.

She died the year I graduated. I was listening to Avici and Elise Knox was still around. Yeah. She was in like 30 movies. She was born in 1917 and was here long enough to know what, to hear Flo Rida on the radio. Oh, man. That's unbelievable. Heisman winner.

Old 98. Sometimes, you know, everyone says life is short. Sometimes it's, it can be fucking long. She was born in 1917 and she lived in 2012. The amount of things that this woman saw. Think about that. I mean, my God. Dude, wait, when was, when did the Wright brothers make that flight?

Oh, yeah. There was like a hundred year gap where we've learned how to fly and then we also went to the moon. Yeah, like 60 years. Like we couldn't fly planes when she was born and then there was an iPhone, but at times she died. 1903, I was wrong, but still.

You know who Tom Harmon looks like is? Mark Harmon? Well, a little bit, yeah. There's a family resemblance there. No, this picture of him as a football player, he looks like the dude. I can't remember his name, but he's in, I'll look it up because I'll find his name,

but he's in Zero Dark 30 as like the guy. who does the waterboarding. What's his name? Jason Clark. Jason Clark. He looks just like Jason Clark. Yeah, I get that related. I get to see that.

Anyhow. Tom Harmon. Anyway, that's old 98 for you. All right. What a fucking story. Tom Hart. What a life. Wow.

All right. Well, shout it to Matt from giving us that book. Holy crap. DK. We'll get more of those. It's a gift that keeps on giving, guys. I had a couple good emails here, but I don't know if the emails can live up to that story.

Now, we'll get to him later. We have to end on old 98 himself. I think we got to let that in the 90. Yeah, I can't top old 98. Okay. Thank you, D.K. Thank you for your service, Tom Harmon. Heisman trophy winning.

We found him. Mark Harmon, thank you in advance for talking to Craig and Brentwood about your father. Thank you for that. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you. Thank you, Abu.

Thank you. Everyone emailed us in. email us and ringer fancy football at gmail.com. I'm going to do emails to the mailbag. Email us mailback questions. If you have, we're going to do a draft mailback this week. We're recording this episode Friday, but email us next week for mail by questions.

And of course, thank you, Lorne. Lorne. Thank you, Evichy. Oh, D.K. My God. Talk dirty to me. Every time I listen to levels or wake me up, I'm like, this is even better than I remember.

Yeah. We're never going to have it as good as we did. They're not making music like that. I told you guys that my dad now likes Evichi. He started listening to it. Oh, really? That's awesome. I commend him. But dad was like, have you heard of this guy, this DJ?

And I was like, what? And he just was like, you know the song? He's like, uh, he's Queens accent. He's like, you know, hey brother. Do you know that song? And I was like, I am very familiar with the song. Yes, thank you, dad. I put Avichie's top.

up against anybody's. Really? Craig, I'm so glad you said it so I didn't have to. I was thinking about this when I listened to Close Truman's thing with Bill about like, like the 60s music. Everyone's like the 60s is the best music. Yes. Hey, brother, wake me up, levels, the nights.

Like, I'm sorry. But it's okay. It's like evolution means you get better over time. There's nothing wrong with that. That's fine. You know, it's okay that like today's players are better than they used to be. Like, that's all right. I remember when we went to intro days,

Spotify flies all its new employees to Stockholm for the week. And the big event was held in Avichy Arena. Yeah. I was home. This is my Grace Lancer. Also, I should say, speaking of Lauren, Lorne Michaels, on the town, we just had, there's a new documentary coming out this week called Lorne. And we had the director on Morgan Neville, who's a very famous documentary filmmaker,

who had two years of unlimited behind-the-scenes access to Lauren Michael. and SNL, which is like unheard of. Yeah, this is unprecedented. Yes, I've seen the doc. It's great. I think it's in theaters coming out at the end of this week by the times people are hearing it. And then it will obviously come out on streaming later. But go see it.

It's really, really good. If you care about any of that stuff. Craig, did you like the movie? First of all, I'm going to do that. Did you like the movie that they made about Saturday Night Live? Yeah, Saturday Night? The Jason Redden movie? I cried.

Really? Okay. So you could like pair of these two together. Watch that movie, then watch the Lord Michael's Dockles. What's the Lord Michael's doc called? What is it called? Lauren? It's called the Lorne Michael's Doc is called Lauren.

The Saturday Night Live movies called Saturday Night. I cried, that's like half joking, but I'm more, I was just like, I'm just so happy to be there. Tears of movie theater and I was like, this is just all I want. It was like a fictional retelling of like the first night of SNL in 1975, and it was great. Craig is a big SNL fan in case people didn't pick up on that. Yeah, I do like it. I like it a lot. That was my dream as a child.

I think we have to see a movie called Lord. We literally have to. It's good. I mean, yeah. And listen to the episode on The Town with Morgan Neville. And then go listen to Avici. Yeah. Levels.

Sure. There's the radio edit, which is like three and a half minutes tight. Or there's the original, which is like five plus minutes. And that has like a more traditional, like slow kind of EDM buildup of just like a 60 seconds of like a beat. But, but it hits hard. You ever listen to levels backward? Yeah. Worth the way.

Backward additional levels. You know what, Dicketts? You'll find him one day, even if it's in your 70s, like High Fitzhift's fault. I mean, I know. He'll find you. I can appreciate it. Listen to his top five. Go, when you're on a run, I'll give you his top five.

Okay. Listen to them. Sure. And let me know what you think. All right. Great. I almost good. Thank you, Lauren.

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