The Ringer NFL Show - Draft Needs for Every NFC Team

Episode Date: April 11, 2024

LIVE SHOW in Detroit on April 24: Click below for tickets! Going division by division, the guys debate what the NFC teams should do with their respective first-round draft picks to address their most pressing team needs according to The Ringer’s 2024 NFL Draft Guide (1:43). “You guys want to do some emails?” (60:51) Tickets: http://bit.ly/ringerdraft24 NFC East (2:01) NFC South (16:08) NFC North (31:42) NFC West (46:18) Check out our 2024 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please check out www.rg-help.com to find out more or listen to the end of the episode for additional details. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, and Ben Solak Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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We're going to go division by division. and we're going to start with the teams who are favored to win, and we'll go to the teams that are favorite to, you know, come and last. And we're just going to go through it. Just see what each team needs in the draft and we'll fix the teams and some teams are unfixable. But yeah, Craig, lead us off here. Just take us on a little tour of the NSC. All right, we're going to start with the NFC East and we are going to start with the Dallas Cowboys.

They have the 24th, if I could speak, overall pick in the draft. Their over under win total projection for 2024 is 10 and a half wins. So just to look back a little bit at what the Cowboys have done. So the Cowboys have won 12 games in each of the last three years. No other team has done that in the NFL. They have the second best record in the NFL in the last three years behind the Kansas City Chiefs. Really? And yet, if you look back at those three years, the last three years, the other top seven teams by record have either made it to the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl, or have gone to a conference championship.

I'm cheating a little bit because the Bill's Conference Championship was four years ago, but still. Dallas has made it out of the wild card round once in the last three years, not to mention the fact that their three best players, Dak Prescott, C.D. Lamb, and Michael Parsons are all nearing the end of their contracts, meaning that, you know, come next year, they could be probably employing the most expensive quarterback, wide receiver, and linebacker, and the NFL. Hi, Vitz. Break out that Jerry Jones legal pad. What are the Cowboys made? Oh, yeah, wait, here, I got it. I actually have a legal contract. What do your scribbles say?

It's incredible. Here, I'll just start scribbling while I throw here. No, I mean, dude, I think Jerry's losing it, man, as if the four pages of just finals was, you know, maybe that's not a hot take anymore. It took 148 years. He's finally losing it. You didn't even mention that each of the last three Cowboys' Exists have been more embarrassing than last. But, dude, Dallas, like, they lost so many things. Dan Quinn took half the defensive line rotation of Washington and then also took the center,

whose name I can never pronounce, Tyler B, it is. Tyrone Smith, the left tackle. Beiotish. I was never going to guess that one. I was, I don't know. Whatever. This is easy. It's not easy.

Yeah. Whatever. Tyrone Smith left to the Jets. Tony Pollard left to the Titans. And you look at this team. And the running backs, the Cowboys, might have right at the season started today. Cowboys have Rico Dattle at running back who's never started a game.

Hell yeah. He's gone is five foot six. They have C.D. Lam and Brandon Cook's a receiver. But the third receiver starting would be Jalen Tolbert, who's basically been a special teamer. Their center for next season right now would be a special teamer last year. Their left guard for next season would be a special teamer right now. Like the theme is a third of the Cowboys offense is like going to be what, special

teamers? And then, all right, they need a running back in the draft. It's not a good running back class. They need a left tackle in the draft unless they want to move to Heather Smith there. they're going to get what, like the eighth offensive tackle in the first round. And that doesn't even go into whether Dak Prescott could just leave in free agency next year. So honestly, the team's kind of a mess. Well, well, you put it that way.

That's kind of tough. It's kind of tough. I keep putting, when I do the my mock drafts, I keep putting receiver to the Cowboys, just because, like you mentioned, I mean, Jalen Tolbert, I think has been a guy that people have, or think has a lot of promise, but he just doesn't really done anything yet. Brandon Cook's is not getting any younger. and then past that. Martavis Bryant is on the Cowboys right now,

which is a thing that's real. Is that right? I mean, I think so. I literally didn't know that. Yeah. He came out of retirement last year and was like on the practice squad or whatever. He hasn't caught a pass since 2018,

Mortevis Bryant. They got nobody after essentially CD in Brinning Cooks that is established. And I think especially with an offense that is probably going to be pretty pass heavy going forward, right? Because they're, or at least I think so, based on the fact that they didn't resign Pollard. they don't really have an answer at running back right now.

To me that is like, wow, they're just going to go into the season with C.D. and Brandon Cooks. That's not the worst thing in the world. C.D. Lambs, I was a great one. I think Brandon Cook is a solid, too. Like, they're bad for depth. I like them for offense of one more just because you lose Tyrant Smith and Tyler Beaudish in the same offseason. Zach Warren ain't getting any younger right tackle has been a rotation for them.

They feel better than they have in the past. But still, like, you got to add bodies right now to that green. group and you can add them on the interior or at tackle because Tyler Smith, who drafted to be a left tackle out of Tulsa two years ago, has played excellent left guard for the last couple of years. So you can kind of let the board fall to you. I like them for the line. I'm holding out hope too, Svon is like going to get a hundred plus touches this year. Yeah, for the vibes. Yeah, just because he's tiny and it's fun. All right, speaking of vibes, Philadelphia Eagles, go birds. Twenty-second pick in the draft this year,

win total, 10 and a half. Second best odds to win the NFC East. Kind of a weird vibe. to end the year. Jason Kelsey's gone. High Fitz. What are the Eagles need? Ben. What do the Eagles need? Oh, wow. I like how you toss it to him just to take it away from him. Pump fake, be like a golden retriever with a ball. You went flying past me. I hit that on the tennis ball.

They went running. Yeah, like, Corner, I think, is the spot in which they have the biggest needs. They have a lot of dice rolls at the spot. They took Kiwi Ringo in the fourth round. Last year, they have Eli Ricks, who was a UDFA for them, who, who, like, they're interested in. Do you guys remember the Colts corner who got suspended for betting on games? He's on the Eagles now? Isaiah Rogers.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're excited about him. Yeah. Nice. And so, a bunch of dice rolls at outside corner. But it's like Darius Slay is old.

James Robbery's old not playing super well. Like, they very clearly need out of talent there. And so I think corner is the biggest position of need. The question becomes is Howie Rosen willing to spend a first round pick on corner? Because we have not seen him do that. tended to just go for veteran players and for veteran stopgaps at the position.

I think that's more been circumstance and anything else. I think he would be willing to. Does a guy fall to them? Do the guy how do they have a grade or whatever? They have needs elsewhere. They're going to add to the offensive line where obviously you have the retirement of Jason Kelsey. They're projected up two new starters at center and at right guard between Cam Juergens and Tyler Steen.

They need a right tackle. Aeroparens Elaine Johnson, who's getting up there. That's potential. They had the Hassan Reddick trade. They always are adding edge rushers. They can go there. They go a lot of different ways. But I do think Corner is the biggest position of need on the roster. I agree with you about corner select. I also think the Eagles are in perfect position to screw over the Dallas because we're talking about Brian Thomas was there for Dallas.

That would be incredible for the Cowboys. And I keep thinking about the Eagles as this perfect team who can trade back with like the bills who could like basically trade that pick. Eagles could move back to somewhere late in the first round and still get a cornerback anyway. That just seems like a classic Eagles thing. But I also, I create no one's. So like you do a lot of great work on the Eagles in the Phillies.

in the Philly Philly Pod, but I don't know if anyone nailed the Eagles season like Craig did last year when he said that the Eagles starting 10 and 1 1 and 6 was like a Super Bowl hangover where you wake up and you think you're not hungover, but you're actually still drunk and the hangover sends it at 1 p.m.

and it's the worst hangover ever. Yeah, you're like, I feel great. Let's keep the gravy train rolling. It's true. And you're like, I feel like, I guess. Sinai Sake ones is trying to get drunk to, like, it's like hair of the dog.

It's like, I hope that this goes away. Look, I've had many times waking up in high school. Sunday morning feel great. Maybe think about driving home and I'm like, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't. In high school? You're a rebel. Look, it was a long time ago.

Not that long. That was a different man. I'm actually not. I'm kind of the same man. Okay. New York Giants here. Sixth overall pick in the draft, win total over under six and a half,

third best odds to win the NFC East next year. I can't believe Daniel Jones is still on this team. Really? I can't believe this is year six of Daniel Jones. It feels like they broke up. It's like when a couple of break. up, but they don't have to finish out their lease. Yeah, it's like, well, we got nine more months on the lease. So, like, I think once he got hurt last year and it was the whole DeVito thing,

I kind of like moved on mentally from Daniel Jones. And I was like, it's done. This is your three of Dayball and Shane. And I was like, I can't believe this guy's going to be starting for the team next year. Maybe he won't. Hi, it's. You tell me. The lease is the perfect. That's exactly what it is. It's like they were still in the lease, but he, but we're going to break up at the end of that. And honestly, the problem, the Giants, the whole season is like that meme of like me reaping. And it's like, yeah. He's showing me. He's like, oh, no, this sucks.

It's like the Giants. They beat the Cardinals. They beat the Patriots and they beat Washington twice. Now all those teams are picking ahead of them and can get quarterback. I remember during the season last year, Hyphins, you were just loving it too. You were all in. You're like, it's so much fun.

I can't turn it off. So good. I love waiting. So good. We're going to live forever. Me. But I will never end. Never going to die.

And so now the Giants like, damn, probably could have used one of those top three picks. That would have been cool. Tanking. Good thing. I totally forgot about the DeVito thing, Craig. Thank you for the reminder of that. That was quite a whole thing. That was a, get a moment.

So yeah, the Giants, they just have to get a receiver now. I don't think they should trade it for quarterbacks. You get Malik neighbors at LSU. You get Roman dudes out of Washington. I won't even entertain getting Marvin Harrison Jr. It will get me too excited. Even they got a tackle. It'd be fine.

I would love to see it, though. It would, I mean, I literally haven't thought about it for five seconds. That's the first time I've even put it out into the world. I would be too happy. It would be too excited. But the giant, they need a receiver and they need a tackle. They need everything that's in that spot. Hi, Vitz, right now, if you could snap your fingers and

J.J. McCarthy is available at 6 for the Giants, would you want that? No, I don't think he's big enough upgrade over Daniel Jones. I like, it's just also, what would you guys say if the Giants took McCarthy? You guys would make fun of me. But you're going to play George McCarthy. Like, I see that from a mile away.

I think J.J. I think J.J. is back. I think, I think, J. is better than Daniel Jones. How much better? Not meaningfully, but enough, enough where I'd be like, it's better. It doesn't have,

he doesn't have multiple neck injuries, so there's that. That's the thing with Daniel Jones. It's like, you know what? Has he been totally mediocre in most games he's ever played? Yeah.

But hey, what about the two neck injuries plus the ACL tear? Is there any question that he's not going to be a starter after this year in the NFL? We all know he's going to go be a backup, right?

Honestly, they're going to Russell Wilson. him. You know, Russell Wilson got benched? Because the Broncos were afraid if he got hurt, they would have to pay him even more money. But Russell never gets hurt. Daniel Jones has a huge injury guarantee, but he gets hurt all the time. So the Giants are going to play him to begin the year. But they can cut him.

But if he gets hurt, it's a problem. So I think the Giants probably bench him for, I think that's what the Drew Locke thing was about. They underreported Drew Locke's compensation. Never seen that before. I think that's because they're going to play. They told Drew Locke, they'd play him in the second half of the season. And they were like, shut the fuck up about it. though.

Did you, hi, it's, I don't know if I've asked you about this. So did you see, and this is maybe just GMs playing the media or whatever, but John Schneider, Seahawks GM, when he was talking about,

I think it was the Sam Howell trade. I can't remember the exact timeline, but he basically let it slip that the Giants had told Drew Locke that he was going to have a chance to compete to be the starter. And then Drew Locke like downplayed it when the New York media asked him about it. They're like, no, no, no. Daniel Jones is the starter.

But like it was, I think John Schneider kind of, it slip that the Giants told Drew Locke he could be, he could maybe be the starter. They're going to wait. They're going to, for the time, they're going to bench Daniel Jones and they're going to play them and they're going to cut them next year. And yeah, nice. But Malik neighbors will be there, baby.

At least we're not Washington. Speaking of Washington. Good motto. Yeah. I don't know who'd rather be. I guess you'd rather be the Giants. Okay, Washington's second overall pick in the draft. They also have two early round, early second round picks.

Their over under wind total is six and a half just like the Giants. And they have the same odds to win the division nine to one. fits. Dan Quinn's there, Cliff Kingsbury offensive coordinator. What do the commanders need? I mean, obviously they need a quarterback and a star. I think it's weird that, I mean, select D.K., you guys have made the comp that Jane and Daniels is probably the closest thing we've seen

since Robert Griffin III. And it's weird that Washington just has the second pick in the draft for both those years. And I think it's Jane and Daniels still. I don't know if you guys, like I know you guys both would pick Drake May if you were running it, but what do you think actually happens right now, Jayden Daniels and Drake May? Because I think it's Jayden Daniels. I think it's Jane and Daniels. I think it's

Jane and Daniels. I cannot stress enough how willing I am to change my opinion. Not in like the sense of like... Hey, Ben, I think it's Drake May. And it could... And it is. And I'm happy about that.

And here we go. But no, that is to say that like all the Jane and Daniels stuff that I have is like from reading the same ESPN articles and the same tweets everybody else is. Like I've had nothing like in my own talking to people or like, you know, the history of Adam Peters. Like it's just like, oh, people think it's Daniels. So it is. So like, if we get...

And if we get some, like, you know, big sportsbook movement towards Drake May or some good reporting towards J.G. McCarthy. Like, I will take that seriously. Like, I, I think commanders, man, they've done a really good job of keeping it tight. And first year in the building, keeping it inside the room. Like, I, there are not a lot of leaks right now. It's do who they like it too. Kudos to them. The one thing I have heard that is interesting at the very least is that on Adam Schaefter's podcast, he was basically saying, and I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was like, you know, the NFL

doesn't really want us to tip picks or giveaway picks. But yeah, we can go ahead and kind of assume this is going to be Jane Daniels. Like when Adam Schfter is saying something like that, it's, you kind of assume he's not just throwing stuff against the wall. 100% Dika. He's hold he's held news. He held the Aaron Roger stuff till draft day. Right.

Because Wojj and the NBA has this like war with the NBA and ESPN where he like won't say the pick. He'll just say like, the Grizzlies are intrigued by John Moran. Because he's not like, It Shefter plays nicer. Now, that being said, Schaefter was very famously, completely wrong about the Mac Jones versus Trey Lance thing.

So there's a track record there of Adam Schaefter getting this big thing very wrong. That said, he is probably the most connected person in, you know, reporting. And so I don't know, I lean Jane Daniels right now. I think there's a thought that it could be a smokescreen, but yeah,

I think it's Jane Daniels right now. Everything else about Washington is just they're the fantasy football guy in the league who hasn't watched football in five years and just takes the all the best players from 2018 because they have Marcus Marriott at quarterback. They have Austin Eckler at running back. They signed Zach Ertz at tight end.

Bobby Wagner at linebacker. And it's just like that. It's just unbelievable murderer's row from 2018 of all pros there. That's culture they're bringing in. Leadership. Teach young guys. Who are the young guys?

We don't know. We're going to go get them. We're drafting them. That's yeah. Yeah. They signed up free agents so they don't need anything, but they actually need everything. like everything.

It's a very old team. All right, let's go to the NFC South. Let's start with Atlanta. They have the eighth overall pick. Over under win total next year is nine and a half. They are the favorites to win the NFC South, which is not saying much. High Fitz.

What does Achilles Kirk need? Dude, Kirk doesn't need anything. I actually, I don't think any team in the NFL has invested more to offense than the Falcons. Like Kirk Cousins, $45 million a year. Darnell Mooney got like $12 a year. They have a first run. I love Darnell.

Gross. Yeah. Gross. Dude. D.K. never gave up on Darnel. No. Select 8.

Kept the candle burn. Every time I learn about another mid-receiver that you guys have talked yourself into, I'm just a little bit more. I'm like, ah, gross. D.K.'s favorite players, Markees Brown. Nope. Josh Palmer. Darnel Mooney.

Oh, yeah, by the way, I listened to last episode, Ben. But Josh Palmer, hey, it will not stand. Go look at his box score. You were wrong. He puts up very average numbers. It's not all over the place. Oh, my hat. I forgot about his very average numbers.

He puts up, you know, like a four catch for 58 yard weekend, every weekend. So he's solid. Oh, okay. You put that all together. You got yourself a stew going. You got a stuco. By the way, most of these are bits.

Let's be honest. Most of them are bids. And just things to make me mad. Yeah. But the Falcons, they have a first run running back, Bejohn Robinson, first run tight-end Kyle Pitts, the first-runner, they have three first rounders on their offensive line. All those are like top 10 picks.

Yeah. And so I look at the Falcons and I'm like, I think this is the most invested offense, literally in the entire league. Plus, 45 million for Kirk Cousins. Meanwhile, Falcons are dead last and sacks in the last three years, also like the last 10 years. Like the whole Falcons collapsed like Falcons below league. Whose dog is that? Whose dog is like howling at the moon? Is there a male man?

He's trying to gauge Ben's reaction. He was just like, I don't know. I'm going to, I'm going to do the thing. I'm going to do the highest thing. Please send me emails. Please send email of your fantasy football at jimple.com. Over the last two or three months, Nuggett has decided to go from being a dog

that just doesn't bark at windows to sitting at windows and barking 24-7. She's five years old. I've no idea what, like, is she upset it and she mad at me? Like, I don't know what's going on. But she, like, people walk on our sidewalk and she goes ballistic.

And she hates strollers, which is a problem for me. I, so I'm in a bad spot. Wow. I was going to say, my guess was going to be like, maybe she can sense that you're going to have a baby soon and the protection instincts are kicking in.

I have no idea, but she doesn't do any, like, going up to mayor and, like, acting, like, all different around her and stuff. Like, people say, oh, your dog will know. Like, no evidence of her knowing besides becoming the biggest A-hole in the world. Excuse me. At the couch. It's so frustrating. That was like a cartoon howl.

Yeah, right. And I watched the person walk on the street. I just watched them past her house. She's dead silent. I guarantee you she's asleep on the couch. Ah, just stay there. Dogs. my dog goes apes shit whenever anyone walks by two.

Also, if there was one team that could be interrupted by like multiple interruptions, is it any team could be funnier than the Falcons. We just never finish it, whatever he's going on with them. Should we just move on? They can't finish games. Edge. They need edge players. Yeah, they get a pass rush.

They can't finish games because they have no pass rush. So yeah, go get a pass rush. Yeah. Sorry. The conversation between edge and corner for them is very interesting to me because I agree that they need edge and it's a bigger need than corner. I personally like the corner class way more in the top 10 in the edge class A. they do need corner. They have no outside starter opposite AJ

Torrell and he only has one year left on this deal. And so they're a very interesting spot right now where if they are good at knowing other team's needs and playing the board well, they can trade back from eight, get really good return and potentially draft the guy that would have just stayed there and taken anyway. Big day for Terry Fons. It said the Falcons are a real IQ test on trading back because the Falcons could very easily trade back and get the first defender

off the board anyway. I also think they could take Byron Murphy from Texas defensive tackle. All right. Next up here. All right. Tampa Bay. the bucks 26th overall pick win total projection 7 and a half they have the second best odds to win the division like they did last year

high fits are the books like actually in no man's land but they're kind of camouflaged as a returning division win champ that should just run it back when in reality there's really not a lot there and they won nine games running back the division dude the bucks are still running back the super bowl team with tom brady like they still have five defenders from that team that started the game they have like mike Evans and they resign Godwin, like they have

Worf's, like they still have the Super Bowl team. Levante David. Whose phone is, who has a landline? Gosh, we are not. All right. How old are you? You are the only. Are you in a FedEx? What is this? FedEx.

So where are you recording from? I'm recording from a house, okay? Not an apartment. A house owned by people in their 60s who have a landline. Answer the phone. Who is calling? I'm so, I seriously want to know who's calling. 99.9.9%

chance it's a telemarketer. Pick it up. Put them on the... Let's talk to the telemarketer. It's already gone. It stopped ringing. Yo. There hasn't been a real human being

on the other line of that phone in five years. That noise, the noise that phone made, like brought me back to the... That was a very old sound. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gbill.com. If you also, like your parents have a landline, but they only get calls now from telemarketers.

We're like an old school radio show, like that has sound drops, except they're actually just happening in real time. We have the dog howl. We have the phone ring. I'm curious to, see what's next. I'm serious though, like the phone, the phone noise that you just had, it's almost like PTSD for me of like waiting in line at some bullshit like store. You know what I mean?

Like I'm like, oh God, I hate waiting in line so much. That noise is just playing in the background constantly. Every time I hear a beeping noise, like a really high-pitched beeping noise, I take myself back to waiting in line at McDonald's. Have you guys ever experienced this? Do you know what I'm talking about? I feel like some of the ghosts are going to know exactly what I'm talking about. Whenever you're like, it's like Pavlov's dog. Whenever I hear a beeping noise, my mouth starts watering because I'm like, ooh, I want McDonald's. You have to griddle.

Yeah. Anyway, we can continue. What are we talking about? And next time you go into McDonald's, just constant beeping. Just a cacophony of beeping noise. Yeah, email us about that too. Oh, the bucks. The bucks, they can't run the ball.

They're dead last in rushing yards last year. They were dead last and rushing yards the year before. And that's like total, like also dead lasting yards per attempt this year. And also the year before. the bucks cannot run. They have Tristan Worst at left tackle and then, what, Cody Mock, the, um, Shrek looking guy. But they just need, they need to run the ball. Whatever you got to do.

He looks like Shrek. I mean, he looks like, he just, he's missing some teeth. Ogeresque. Dude, Ogress is a tough. Is that mean? Is that a nice man? Is that mean? It's a cop.

We love, you're saying that on microphone. He looks like the Hamish guy from Braveheart. Yeah. Like that's probably, he looks like he'd be an extra in Braveheart. It's a lineman. All linemen are coming to ogrey. To be honest, was Shrek missing teeth? In my head, Shrek had a full set of chompers.

Chomper. Shrek's got a full head of teeth? Shrek's got the Rex Ryan teeth. I think Shrek's got 32 pearly white ones in my imagination. But maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, Shrek's got full teeth? Yeah, Shrek's got full teeth. I don't know what you're talking about.

Oh, yeah. Well, once again, a great moment for Ringar NFL draft shot out of context where I'm just positive one of the four images. You're going to be a picture of Shrek smiling. I wouldn't say his teeth are great. Like he has the teeth. Well, you know, I wouldn't say that they're great teeth. I'm just looking at a picture of him right now.

I believe there is a scene where he brushes his teeth in the original movie. Yeah, and there's like weird gross stuff coming out of it. Oh, really? Oh, I know he pulls the earwax out and makes a candle out of it. Shrek is a good movie. Animation hasn't really held up. It's great soundtrack. Did you know?

I had no idea that the Prince of Egypt was like the big movie they were making it DreamWorks at the time. And it was supposed to be the A1. And the punishment, if anyone like acted out or wasn't being a good employee. They were like, Shrek was the threat. They were like, we'll send you to Shrek. You'll have to work on that. And DreamWorks. And then Prince of Egypt was fine. And the Shrek is like one of the highest grossing properties that's ever been made. And you know, they originally started filming the movie or, you know, making the movie with Chris Farley as the voice of Shrek. And then he passed away and then they had to move to Mike Myers.

And then Mike Myers did the whole thing. And then at the end of he's like, you know, that would have been way better if I did like a Scottish accent. And then he did the whole thing again. No way. Don't get. Man. Yeah. I was a lot more known Shrek lore. podcast. I didn't know that. Nobody, nobody was Googling anything there.

That was off the dome with Shrek fax is replacing Kenny Pickett Fax. I love it. That, they're just cooking. What else we got about Shrek?

What position is Shrek? For sure, O'Line? Guard. Does he have the arm length? Is he guard? He's like Graham Barton. He'd be a guard or a center.

It's a guard center. I cut. What about nose tackle? I can see that. Yeah. All right. Google's got Shrek at, uh,

eight feet tall, weighing 450 pounds. He's Vita Veaa. Get him in the middle. I'm not getting an exact arm length measurement here. I am now on a Tumblr post titled, I might have found a discrepancy in the Shrek universe, and it's using the relative size of Shrek as well as that giant gingerbread man

to figure out if everybody's actually proportionate to the size they should be. There's calculations in here, man. Get Shrek on Victor Wimbanyama. He's got really long arms. They go down to like his kneecaps. Who's Shrek? He is built to be an offensive lineman. built a defense alignment.

All right. Well, we'll see if D.K. mocks him where he goes in D.K.'s mock. Mock. Cody Mock. Full circle. It all comes back. Okay, moving on.

The New Orleans Saints. 14th overall pick. Seven and a half is their win total. Third best odds to win the division. I cannot stress this enough. Nobody cares about the Saints. You should, because the Saints are like a Ponzi scheme that's winding down. They're like the final 40 minutes of Goodfellos.

Like, it's just like they had this good thing going, but like the jig is up and it's not going to end well. What is the Ponzi scheme in Goodfell? The mafia? Just the entire mafia? Well, I guess that's not a Ponzi. Yeah, I don't know. Just like they had like a criminal. They had a good thing. Go, Wolf of Wall Street, whatever.

Like they were just like lying about money. And the Saints as a team I do think are like a money laundering or I probably shouldn't say that he gets sued. But like I don't know what they're doing. But they honestly do. I'm not kidding. The offensive line is going to bring them down because they, they are locked into every player.

Every player's contract's like a credit card they've maxed out and they're out of people. And so now they're stuck with Trevor Penning left tackles a disaster. Probably the worst. one of the worst picks other than Kenny Pickett in 2022. And then right tackle Ryan Ramick's been great, but he has like this tough knee issue in his career's in jeopardy. Andres Pete's been their other reliable linemen and he's going to be gone. He's a free agent.

So the Saints have a terrible line with Derek Carr, who very famously does not take pressure well, does not take hits. And so the only thing more annoying to the receivers than Derek Carr is going to be Derek Carr throwing away every pass when he can't block. So the Saints have to go get a lineman or the whole thing, they're going to jail. They're going to jail.

Hey, you'd be nice to Derek Carr. Somebody said something mean to him on Instagram Live, and he got upset with them. Derek Carr is my least favorite athlete. That hasn't done no crime. Great tape. Top one take. That hasn't committed a crime.

Yeah, it's like we need a different category. It's not like you did anything. It's just like who you are. Who would you rather hang out with? Derek Carr or Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson by 100 because... Well, no, none of his entourage can be there. I'm just still fascinated by him.

person. Derek Carr would be boring. Russell Wilson would be so weird. Yeah, Russ has story. Like, Russ has probably, like, spoken to future. I have a sick curiosity in, like, who Russ is as a person. I have no interest in Derek's sick curiosity. A morbid fascination.

Are we, did we finish there on New Orleans? Yeah, what are we giving them? Offensive line? Do you know the Saints are locked? Like, the Giants getting rid of Dana Jones. The Saints are locked into 70 million for Derek Carver the next two years. Cannot get rid of it. Heck yeah. You know, are the saints, so that, like I said, have the, what pick was it?

14th pick in the draft. The Saints outside of Chris Olive have Rashid, Shihid, Cedric Wilson, and A.T. Perry. Do we think that they're a reasonable wide receiver team here at 14? I do think they could be a receiver team, yes. I mean, this team quietly has no

offensive. I mean, they have an aging Alvin Camara and that's kind of, and Chris Alavi, obviously, and then that's it. If Joanne Johnson at tight end, there's not a lot going on. Taysam Hill. This team is old or inexperienced, nothing in the middle on the offensive side of the ball. I'll be slack-jawed stunned if they don't take a tackle.

They'll must like four tackles. Agreed. Yeah, there are trenches. They're typically like a build from the trenches. Draft team, I think. The other position that I would say is they did talk about Marchion Lattimore trades this year. And so I do think that like more corners is possible.

But they've been drafted day two and day three corners really successfully, or excuse me, just day two corners over the last couple of years. And so I do think that they're a tackle team for sure. The Ramshake health thing is just terrifying. The Trevor Penning early returns are abysmal. You can't just be walking to next year and just have multiple tackle spots missing starters. It's a recipe for disaster. All right.

Let's finish up here with Carolina. They have no first rounders. They traded that to Chicago in the Bryce Young Deal. They have the first pick of the second, the third, and the fourth. However, five and a half is their win total. They're 10 to one to win their division. Their new head coach is Dave Canales, who is he the quarterback whisperer? He revitalized Gino Smith.

he revitalized Baker Mayfield. Can he make Bryce Young good? They need offensive line help, preferably short offensive linemen. High Fitz. What do the Panthers need? Well, first, at some point,

we're going to have to have the Dave Canales conversation. That'll be later this summer. But there's a whole lot to be back there. Could not employ Shrek at Guard. It's a big problem. They gave Robert Hunt $60 million. Shrek should have got. What's Shrek can ask for?

You know what I mean? Max Kiel. The Panthers, they're in the five stages of grief because they took Bryce Young over C.J. Stroud. And then they also in that trade, gave away Caleb Williams.

It's just brutal. Which would you say every time I'm saying. They gave away C.J. Stroud and Caleb Williams to take Bryce Young. So step one is denial, which is blame Frank Reich and fire him earlier than any coach in 40 years. Step to his anger, throw your drink at a

Jaguars fan is, you know, at Matt at yelling at David Tepper. Now the Panthers are in stage three, which is bargaining, which is give a hundred million guaranteed to Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis to play guard. And now they're going to have to- Bad bargaining right there. And then draft receivers. Like I really think they're in

the bargaining, like we can fix this offense, but they traded for Dante Johnson, who's smaller, gets open quick. And I think that in the draft second round, they get big bodies and like build the offense from scratch. And then that won't work. Depression, get another big pick next year. And then stage five acceptance is drafted at their quarterback, 26. I do like, uh, high fits you have here on the ringers draft guide, Ladd McConkey as one of your friendly suggestions for the Panthers. And I think that makes sense. I like that one a lot. Another guy that can kind of just get open quickly, give Bryce Young an option early on so you can get the ball out quickly

start to get into rhythm. I think a guy like McConkey fits really well because he's the type of receiver where you can start to rebuild the confidence, rebuild like I said, get him into a rhythm, get him going that way. Ladd-McConkey, Deontay Johnson, and Adam Thielen,

every pass going for 13 yards. Yeah, it's going to be... Every single right, we're going for 9 to 13 yards. That's the world that we're living in. Can anybody name the starting tight end for the Panthers? Yes. Tremble. Tommy. Tommy Trembl.

So there's that's a thing. Please, former Nordaim guy, right? Thomas Trembal was my father. Call me Tommy Trembal. All right. Let's move to the NFC North. Start with the Lions here.

The Lions have the 29th overall pick in the draft. Their win total is set at 10 and a half. They have the best odds to win the NFC North. High fits. Where are we at with the knee biters? First of all, if you're a lion's fit, remember, live show in Detroit, baby. tickets in the episode description.

Come see us. Come see us. Home of the Loins. Boom. The Loins. Nobody would call them that. Oh, we're going to write that down

for the live show. We're going to make a Loins joke. But yeah, the Lions, they need defense. Like, they lost the champion. They blew 17. Half time lead,

but there is Super Bowl contender now. Every Super Bowl contender needs cornerbacks and pass rushers. And the Lions added some. They lost some, but they still need more. Like they had, they lost Kim Sutton and they lost

CJ Gardner Johnson. They traded for Carlton Davis. They still need a quarterback. They added Marcus to Avonport. But the lines. still need pass rushes and I just think maybe defensive tackle, but that's what they need a defense and then offense. They have

literally everything kind of like set except to just the outside receiver. Josh Reynolds went to Denver to, I don't know why I'd want to work for Sean Payton, but he went to Denver. And the lines just need like that big body in the outside because they have like one guy every six foot one. They're receiver. Well, they got Jamo. Jamison Williams, I think is in theory

going to be the guy. Donovan People's Jones, 6'5. They are kind of, they are kind of big on Donovan People's Jones. I love him. It's funny because like, Josh Reynolds did one thing for them. And it was run the dig. And the one route that Jericho wants to throw more than any is the dig. And right now they got no receivers who could run the dig.

If it's Donovan People's Jones, he's going to suddenly have a very important role because they need this route. The dig for everyone knows, if you grip playing flag, it's like an in. It's just like a nice 90 degree angle. I feel like he could do that. This is another one of the mid receivers that we like for no further reason. I love him. Donovan people Jones.

I don't understand how it has. I love Donovan People's Jones. and he literally was like, he couldn't get playing time on the Browns who had nobody. How do you guys land on your guys? We can fix it. Yeah.

The fantasy of Waverwire is how old. You look at players who are bad and you're like, but what if they were good? If somebody wins you a week after a waiver wire pickup, they are kind of like, you adopted them for years. He had 840 yards two years ago. That's like pretty good.

That's not fucking bad. 840 yards. How many total career games does Donovan People's Jones have? of at least 100 receding yards. Any guesses? One. That's an arbitrary number.

I object. He has two. Two. Better than you guys thought. Double. Double bubble. Stock up for DPJ. Trade it for a six round.

I rescind my objection. I'm a little worried about the lions. Good player. I'm also a little worried about the Lions. High Fitz. They feel like they need to add a star talent. They need like a legit.

Lockdown. I want them corner. And I also kind of want them to get layout too, lot too. I kind of want it.

Right. Or like I was going to say like a legit like outside redro that would be fun. And right now when you pick a late 20s you're going to get like

maybe a guy who's helpful in year one and develops into something. They kind of need a big splash. And so lines are on my list as a trade-up team, man. We start getting into the teens. They do this with James

Williams and kind of nobody knew it was coming. As the guy who had the Loins tweet, I had no idea that the Loins were going to do this. So I get it. I would not be surprised if they're another aggressive trade-up theme once we start to get into the teens. All right. Perhaps a reason why everybody's a little bit nervous about the Lions this year is because of the Green Bay Packers,

who have the 25th overall pick, nine and a half is their win total. Second best odds, two-to-one odds to win the NFC North. This is everyone's favorite team. This is their darling hitting into this year. Everyone's going to be picking all the hipsters, Packers, Texas Super Bowl, pencil it in now. High fits. Do the Packers need anything? They don't need anything this year.

They're good at developing stuff. and I think that stuff. Well, developed players, I guess. I think they need a tack. They have nine offensive linemen on the roster, eight of their linemen are free agents either after this season or next. So they have basically no long term playing on offensive line. And I think that a tackle makes sense.

But again, they might be the eighth or ninth team to take one so they could do a developmental guy. But then on defense, it's like they need linebacker and safety. And it's not a great year for those things. But even then, they still sign Xavier McKinney's in free agency. So the Packers are just frankly, like once again, like the most well-run organization and maybe the only one with adults in the. room. They're just like the, they're like the guy who just like stays home and like, I'll just cook

at home. I'm not going to order in. I'll just cook it home. You know that Josh Jacobs, I saw this that. Josh Shakers is the only Packers offensive starter that isn't a Packers draft pick from the last five years. Draft and develop. Yeah. That's remarkable. That's like your friend who's, do you have a friend who's like, you know, if you just save $27 a day, that's $10,000 every year? Like that's great. Right. If you just brew your coffee at home. Yeah. They're the millennial who brews coffee. coffee at home and then they have a house. I have a comment about this.

I like to go to a coffee shop. I like to purchase a latte. I like, I just spend too much money on it. It's not good. I bought myself an espresso machine. I get nice beans. I've been working on and learning how to make the lattes. I make taste of lattes.

I still can't do the art. The design on the top. Yeah. But they taste good. Every morning I wake up, I make myself a latte. By 3 p.m., I'm out of a coffee shop. I get a second.

This is not removed the problem for me whatsoever. I like doing it. that and I also like now doing this new thing and then I just do both of them. That's fair. Yeah. Yeah. And I also consumed too much caffeine.

Impossible. Just kidding. I don't drink coffee. All right. Moving on. Chicago. First overall pick. I don't know if you guys knew that.

They also have the ninth. They have no second rounders. They're over under is eight and a half. Which I got to say, it has to be one of the highest overunders for a team coming off the first overall pick. Plus 370 to win the division. Like even that, like they're three, four to one odds

to win the division coming in with a rookie quarterback. High fits, what do you think they should do at nine here? You know, linemen Roma Dunesay. What else do the Bears need? The simplest way I put it is Caleb Williams, I think, is the closest thing we've seen to Aaron Rogers. And I mean, we literally saw Aaron Rogers own the Bears. He literally said, I own you to the Bears.

And if we're all comping Roma Dunez to Devante Adams, I'm like, just Roma Dunezay, Caleb Williams, get Chicago its own Aaron Rogers, Devante Adams. I can't think of something more cathartic than for Bears fans to see something like that, like finally having one of their own because the Bears have never had a good quarterback ever. God.

By the same token, think about how damaging it would be to be promised that and then both Caleb and Rome are bad. Lucy with the football. Destroy Metropolitan Chicago. Well, like Jordan loves throwing the Dontavian wicks. No problem. Here we go.

The Panthers would be like, thank you. Thank you for doing that. We're like underrating how the stakes of this draft of Chicago, The Bears are like 100 years old. They've never had a good quarterback. I'm not being exaggerate. Like Jay Colter was 500 as a starter. Jim Harbaugh was better on the Colts than he was for the Bears.

He went to the Colts. They gave him a comeback player of the year. He didn't even get hurt. He just was on the Bears. Rex Croseman's Super Bowl erasure. Please. Jim McMahon won the 85 Super Bowl. Jim McMahon said Chicago's where quarterbacks go to die.

Like that's a quote from the best bear's quarterback in Bears history. The Bears have never had a 4,000-yard passer. The franchise record for passing is 3800 yards. Caleb Williams can so easily set the single season passing record for the Bears as a rookie. But also to Solix point, if he's like if he's good, Caleb will be the biggest Chicago athlete since Michael Jordan. If Caleb's bad, I think people will stop being Bears fans. It's funny to me that like the most embarrassing teams in the NFL right now are like the New York Giants, the Chicago Bears, like these big great like historic cities. I don't know why.

Roder. The Jets. New York Jets and the New York Giants. What's going on with that? And then we got the Green Bay Packers over here. Kansas City Chiefs. Kansas City Chiefs in Eastern Missouri. Buffalo, Cincinnati.

Like, that's where people are like NFL rigged. I'm like, okay, they sent Trevor Lawrence to the Jacksonville Jaguars and you think this thing's rigged instead of the Jets. Right. Okay. They're really bad at it then. It really has been a great run for like the non, you know, eight tier cities in sports. We said this before last season. Like last season was the bizarre season because we're talking about Cincinnati and Buffalo Super Bowl contenders.

The Jaguars are supposed to. to be really good. And yeah, it's like, all these teams have grew up with, they're terrible. Which city's fan base are we about to get 19 mentions from? Because we were like, oh, you think Jacksonville's not a major city? Like, yeah. Largest city in America by, largest city in America by geography. Is, is what? Jacksonville, by square mileage, yeah. Really? Yeah. How big is it? It's bigger than L.A.? Well, it depends that you count because L.A. it's like. L. L.A. is massive.

L.A. is massive, but Jacksonville is large, but also what you think of as L.A. is like different cities. I'm doing largest United States cities by area. It's L.A. I think. The top four are all in Alaska, which is cheating. So, like, oh, this is all the city. All this over, this is the city.

No, that shouldn't count. I need a better list in this Wikipedia list. Friends cabin out there. That counts is 500 square miles. Jacksonville's 840. After the four, Alaska and cities of Sithka, Juno, Rangel, and Anchorage. There's a fifth city, Tribune, Kansas, and then the sixth one is Jacksonville. So of cities I deem real by my objective measures, Jacksonville is number one.

Really? That's bizarre. What the hell's going on in Tribune, Kansas? They got room, baby. That's right now. I've never even heard of Rangel, Alaska. I see. Alaska, it's like you're assuming the maps of Alaska is on America, and it's just like larger than Texas by a lot. Not even close. They're the last state that would ever get a professional sports team, right? Yeah. Well, probably. Yeah, right.

It'd be very inconvenient. I mean, I guess you could say like Hawaii, but that's South Dakota. At least the weather is predicted watch as a flight. Like, let's go play on the, let's go play. I don't even know what the capital of South Dakota is up to my head. Bismarck, no. South Dakota. South Dakota.

Yeah, South Dakota is Pierre. Oh, Pierre. Oh, I said St. Pierre. Dude, I was so good at State Capitol. Is it Pierre or St. Pierre? I just added a touch a class on it, you know. Oh, no, if it's... Check.

I think it is. It's just right up here. I used to know all of the capitals of all the countries in the world. And by used to, what I mean to say is in fact I had no friends. All the countries in the world? All the countries. I would just memorize things because no one would talk to me at lunch. And, you know, I had like...

Sitting over here like he's Stephen Glansberg. That's because anytime somebody came up to you, Ben... Ben was just sitting to himself going, like, like, Uzbekistan. And it's left, you know. A wagon tagoon for Kna Faso. Afghanistan is Kabul. What's Georgia?

DeBlessy. What's Uzbekistan? Dude, that was so fast. Uzbek is, I don't know, Uzbekistan. It's like Ashgabar or something like that. New Zealand. New Zealand is Wellington, I think. Nice.

Heck yeah, go birds. I also did pie after like 720 digits, man. I was viving. 720 digits of pie? at the peak, at the peak, I couldn't possibly do that now. Wow. That is astonishing.

I got to say, we might make you do that at the live show. I'll get back to practicing. Okay. All right. Let's get on back on track here. Minnesota Vikings, they have the 11th pick and the 23rd pick.

They have nothing else until the fourth round. Six and a half is their win total. They have the worst odds in the division. 7 to 1. High fits. What do the Vikings need? obviously a quarterback. Yeah, the cards are on the table.

Like, you know, you ever play like poker someone and you're like, hey, you're bleeding. Like you could just see their cards. Like the Vikings just have two first and they want a quarterback. And so I, we could talk about other stuff, but they're going to trade a bunch of picks for quarterback. And I wanted to ask you guys,

I feel like this is, like, I was like, what's the best landing spot for a rookie quarterback to succeed in the last like 10, 15 years? Because I was looking, Russell, go to the Legion of Boom, Seahawks. Loki,

Kirk Cousins going to Washington, not for the players, but for like seven head coaches on that staff. Mahomes? Yeah, Mahomes to the Andy Reed Chiefs that had already won the division and they had Kelsey and Tyree Kill. You have Dak going to Dallas

with the best offensive line of the league and then I would say Brock Purdy a couple years ago with Debo, Brandon Ayuk, Christian McCaffrey, Trent Williams and left tackle on Kyle Shannon. It's hard to say like things like Brock Purdy

because like every last pick in the draft is likely going, like a lot of these like later on guys are going to good teams. So it's like there's a million quarterbacks who have gone to the team. Tanner McKee ended up at a crazy good spot when the Eagles drafted him.

Fair. But I guess, but the Vikings are on that list. right? It should be first round guys. Yeah, but Justin Jefferson at receiver, Jordan Addison, receiver, T.J. Hawkinson, another first round pick. He's coming off at ACL. And then they have Christian Darisol was a first run pick at left tackle. Brian Neal was the second round picket, right tackle. Like, this is an incredible team. And I'm like, I think that this is probably

the best spot for rookie quarterback since Patrick Holmes in 2018. I don't remember, like, this is an unbelievable situation for wherever it goes there. Like, if you could just be, like, take a job and not be drafted, if you're going to work, if you had offers from all these places for equal money. You'd go to the Vikings. I agree. Let me devil's advocate real quick. I think that like the Addison,

Hawkinson, Jefferson thing is pretty impeachable, right? They got like a really nice trio of past gotters. Derrison O'Neill. There's some great, great tackles. There's a big difference between like calling an offense for an established quarterback and like developing a young guy. I think you saw some of that in the back half of the season for the Vikings just when they had your own haul out there.

Dobbs obviously was a veteran, Mollens was a veteran, but still when they had that that carousel of guys, which is that they were, they were a pretty complex offense in terms of the passing game, what they asked Kirk to do. Like, Kirk is it as vet as it gets in this offense, he knows every single check in the book.

He'll make, he's willing to make every single throw. He trusts the offense completely. Like, you know, it's not so easy as saying, like, oh, when we have a rookie, let's take like our, you know, 25 simplest plays, start there and just kind of scale it up. Like, you know, it takes some coaxing.

Development me a guy's not that easy. So this is a big deal for Kevin O'Connell, who just like, obviously, I like Kevin O'Connell a lot. If you made me bet, I would bet that he's got a great plan to develop him in place. I think he's a really good and sharp coach. But it is a challenge, right? Like, as good as the environment is, there also is the, you know, how do we teach and work with a young guy when we've been literally like having the paragon

of NFL veteran quarterback, Kirk Cousins, just the most like I do what I'm told in this offense possible. Like that, that is a big substantial change for the coaching staff there in Minnesota. All right. Let's go to the NFC West. San Francisco, this poor team, they have the 31st pick in the draft, they're over under,

win total is 11 and a half, they have the best odds to win the division. This team is returning all 11 offensive starters, I believe. And yet, you know, right now on the rewatchs, we're doing something called Rock Bottom Month, where we're kind of like,

every movie, you know, it's somewhat about like a person or a situation that is kind of at the rock bottom. Obviously, the Niners were in the Super Bowl that is not rock bottom. However, mentally, the state of this team, the state of the fan base, the state of Kyle Shanahan, might be at rock bottom compared to any other winning franchise in the history of sport. This team, if anything, they just need to draft like a team therapy session more than they do any more players.

Where are you at with the Niners? First, I totally think you're right. I'm looking at the Arizona Cardinals 11 to want to win this division because we have to account for the fact that the Niners are just going to explode and like coming apart this season. I was a nine or so are going to explode believer this past off season. So I think I'll probably be won this off season again just because like you have to be. They were saying it at the spot for the Super Bowl. Like they were admitting, yeah, no, if we don't win this one, we got to win. Like, and then they didn't win and they all like.

So, but to your point, like they right, Colton McKivitz is right tackle. John Feliciano they brought back at right guard. Both those guys like got longer contracts, but not like a commitment. They got gave them money that in case we can't do better than you, we will keep you here. but both, I think if the Niners can improve the right side of their line, which honestly did lose them the game, kind of. They Niners will do that. But again, 31st pick, probably the most offensive tackles in the history of the drafts

are going to be taken in the first 30 picks. So I feel like they're going to, Niners are going to have to take a second rounder with that pick. And then the question's like, do they take a Brandon Iuke replacement? But I don't know if this team drafts with the patience. Like Kyle Shannon's just tilting. He fired Steve, Steve Wilkes, the defensive coordinator. I don't think Steve Wilkes has lost them in the Super Bowl. like I think frankly like the organization is like tilting.

I think they'll be fine. Did DK the Seahawks fan be like you guys see this. You can't kill this team, you guys. Well, you can. It just happens at the end of the season. It's just after they be in the entire NFC first. Or when they put in that. Offensive line either the two spots interest me defensively.

They lose Eric Armstead and replace him with Malik Collins, Jordan Elliott as well in free agency. Like I do think that as always, with the 49ers, more ads to their defensive line is possible because they tend to be like a platoon guy there and have a ton of snaps available. They believe in their ability to develop these explosive players. I do think the line is possible.

And then the real issue they had coming into that game, that Super Bowl going through all their film and all their data, it didn't manifest itself too much, but it's still there, is that they have two good corners in Traverius Ward and the outsides, all pro-calibre guys, excellent. And Diomador-Lenor is a good young player for them. When they have to go nickel, which is a lot in the NFL, you mean, I can do this quite often.

They bumped Lenore to the inside and put Amory Thomas out there as their new outside corner and Amory was getting picked on all the end of the season and into the postseason. They were going after Ambray Thomas. And so I do also think end of the first round is a good spot for corner in this particular class. It tends to be a good spot in every class, but I really do like the guys this year. I could see them going for a dude who's able to be their third corner, whether a slot player or an outside player and replacing Ambrie Thomas. Yeah, it certainly makes sense for them to address the defensive side.

All right, let's go to the Rams here. They have the 19th pick. They have a pick. The Rams have a first round pick, which is exciting. That's an eclipse. That's an eclipse. First one since Jared Goss, dude.

And Jared Goss, like 60, 65? How old is Jared Gough? He's up there. Like, that's unbelievable. Where were you in April 2016? That is the last time the Rams said. I was at that draft as a fan because that was the Carson Wentz draft.

I was in college. Yeah. I was in college at Chicago. The draft was in Chicago. I had church that evening. They won. But I wanted to go down and see everything and like be an Eagles.

fan because they were going to draft wens. So I had on my shirt and tie and I had an eagle's hoodie on over it. And I was deathly sick and I was freezing. And I camped out for like five hours and I saw Carson Wentz in a car and I waved him and he waved to me. And that was the peak of Ben at the time. Since then, man, we moved on. But that, I remember that draft day like it was yesterday, dude. So the Rams, their win totals eight and a half. The Rams are a real fun story because I feel like, you know, last year, a lot of people picked them to have the work to be the worst team to league. And then they were a flat team in the, yeah, yeah, no, I did. I thought they were going to totally suck.

Yeah, they almost beat the Lions. Probably maybe should have beaten the Lions in the playoffs and, you know, have managed to develop a lot of these late draft picks. I mean, shit, they're like the guy who's like always finds discounts on things and you're like annoyed about it, you know?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I got this out of farmers, but oh, no, it was actually on sale. I got this for $20. It's like Kobe Turner, Puka Nukua. So, hi, Hyphitz. Kyron Williams. Kairn Williams.

Hyvich, what do the Rams need? Obviously, Aaron Donald retired. What do the Rams need? honestly, they spend it free agency and guard. They're so, they're good on offense honestly, which is kind of weird to say. They need a pass rusher where they get it from, who cares?

Like if they get a defensive tackle or an edge rusher, I think the Rams look at it like the Aaron Donald experienced, like having the greatest defensive tackle ever of the generation changed how they look at stuff. And so I don't think they'll care where they get it from as low as they get a pass rusher. I do wonder if they get like, again, layout two, lot to

at a UCLA, the combo of him being in LA and the combo of him just having this like super advanced arsenal of hit of Pat Dika you've talked about it. I wonder if just Aaron Donald on all the knife fighting like the Rams look at that and they're like yeah that's super valuable isn't it? Yeah, seen as transition. Just give Liatu Latu the knives. Yeah, give him the knives. It's like passing the torch or whatever with the baton. Pass him the knives and he'll just take over. I like that a lot for him for Leontu Lato. I think that would be a perfect fair for them. They've got a couple of young pastors like Byron Young last year was really, good for them.

Kind of a third round guy, super athletic, but a little bit older, so he fell a little bit, and he was decent for them. I think just continuing to add to that. I like the defensive tackles, too, for this team.

But LATU, I think, would be kind of the dream for the Rams. All right. Let's go to Seattle here. 16th overall pick. They have no second rounder. They traded that to the Giants and the winner.

Hell yeah. Their win total projection is seven and a half. The Seahawks will be starting Gino Smith. And they also have Sam Howell, as their backup quarterback now. 9 to 1 odds to win the division. They have a new head coach.

High fits. D.K. Ah. What do the Seahawks need? They need a basketball hoop. Get it back. Oh yeah. There's a big hub of in Seahawks land right now

because Pete Carroll for the entire time he was there had like a basketball hoop in the area where they do all the press conferences and stuff. Man, Pete's the best. I love that guy. The easiest way to get the media to like you is just let all the reporters shoot basketballs before and after the press go.

He's the best. Anyway, Mike McDonald got rid of it. It's like, to me, this is a little bit of a bad omen. Because people were asking about it, I think, all the last couple of months. Don't get rid of basketball in Seattle. Hired. But also McDonald's like, this is my team now. This is like, the Pete era is over, you know?

I got to be my own man. You know, you know the head of PR in Seattle was sent down in his office. He was like, I have to go explain to Mike McDonald while taking this basketball hoop down. It was a bad idea. My job, man. Come on. What is this?

I think all the time about those people for Washington and everything they had to tell Josh Harris once he bought Washington. They're like, all right, give me, you need to know. One of my buddies tweeted this like way back in the day. And it's something that is really stuck with me. It's like, and he tweeted a picture of Pete Carroll dribbling the basketball. And he was like, there's just something about the way that Pete dribbles that makes me trust him. He's got a steady handle. It's like this guy just knows ball kind of.

deal. And so, I don't know, this is very different. It's like a stark, it's a reminder of the Pete Carroll era is officially dead. I get it. I get it if you're Mike McDonald. Like, you need, you need to come in and clean house instead of new standard. Like, you can't be using somebody else's like old traditions that built their own culture. You need, you need to clean slate, even if it feels sterile. No, you're absolutely, you have to do it. And you have to know that you're going to be taking your lumps when you do it. People are going to complain about it. Yeah. And then two months from now, there's going to be ping pong in the locker room at OTAs, and they're going to be like, oh,

so Mike McDonald does like games, then you just have to be like, ha-ha, and just try to get to August. So we're saying, we got to see Mike McDonald dribble a basketball so we see if we can try. Before we know, if we can trust him. Someone tosses of a chess pass when he comes up for a podium one day, see what he does with it. I also, you know, it's just like,

like, idly dribbling and sort of like ball handling, it just, you get that. By the way, they need an offensive lineman. I don't know. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's, not it. I really struggled to mock for the Seahawks, right? I've given them a tackle and people get mad at me because obviously they have Lucas and they have cross. They have the 16th pick

as well. Yeah, I think the interior is absolutely a spot. Linebacker is very weird to me. They had the whole secondary benching rotation thing going on last year. Like, you think it's for sure interior offensive line. Where else could you see him go? Interior offensive line and or just any offensive line because they had like multiple injuries at the offensive line last year. They were platooning guys that right tackle. So I think it would make it sound of sense, even though they did sign George Fan as like a swing tackle. Linebacker is a big one. I still think they need just pass rushers in general.

They don't have any like star pass rushers. You know, way Maffa kind of came on strong last year. Darryl Taylor's still around, but he's more of just, you know, he's closer to just a guy than a star. And so I don't know.

I think they could use any of those. Interior pass rusher, I think would be fine. It would be good. Just any, pretty much anything on defense would be perfectly fine with me. safety is still pretty shallow. They're solid at corner, which is good. But I mean, I wouldn't even be surprised if they took a corner too. Really anything on defense.

All right. Let's finish up here with Arizona. Arizona has the fourth pick in the draft, the 27th, as well as the 35th. They have the most picks in the draft. Their win total projection is six and a half. 11 to one odds to win the division. High fits. They have the fourth pick in the draft here.

I still, I refuse to believe that if they're sitting there at four and Marvin Harris is there, considering the fact that their wide receiving room is comprised of Michael Wilson, Greg Dorch, Chris Moore, Zach Pascal, that they would let Marvin Harrison Jr. go and trade out of that spot. I don't believe it. I agree. When I say that, I'm only saying it's basically like a fancy three-way trade where they would get them anyway. But either way, it doesn't matter. Like, I think the Cardinals get Marvin Harrison Jr. And I think that when it's all said and done, we're going to say the Cardinals won the draft, which again, how much does that matter? The Eagles won the draft last year, and they were super embarrassed at the end of the season.

And so whatever. But I do think we're going to say on Sunday that the Cardinals won the draft because the Cardinals desperately need receiver. They lost Hollywood Brown as you said. Like again, Dorch is like what? Dorch number two receiver them. Yeah. They're going to get Marvin Harris Jr.

They desperately did cornerback. But then you have the Cardinals. They don't just pick at four. They also pick a 27 from Houston. They have the 35th pick. They have six picks in the top 90. They have 11 overall. Like not 11 total.

They have 11 picks in the whole draft. And they're going to be able to get cornerback. they're going to be able to get a pass rusher. And I think they'll get kind of everything they need. Like, wow, they get everything they need. The Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon, fire in your gut. Pugh, pew, pew. It's actually, I watched it again.

It's actually shoe, shoe. Oh, I can't. That's even weir. I tried to watch it again. It was much too painful. I had to turn it off immediately. I was like, I just can't do it. I can't do it.

It's kind of like if Michael Scott was really inspiring. It's like Michael Scott, Kendall Roy combo. If it's, we saw him in the airport. He's pretty buff. Oh, yeah, we did. Yeah. John Gannon? Yeah. He's like, he looks like he works out a lot. The unified theory of defensive coordinators never fails, but jacked or old.

And he would, John Gannon was jacked and the defense was good. And then he leaned down and their defense got worse. And now he's more buff than he was because he gets it. He's bulking. All right. You can only get older one year at a time. Yeah. But you can get buff.

You can get big. That's your top one take. So lack is that that that's so true. Every defense court has to be older buff. If you're going to be good to coach your defense, get one and two things, hold or jacked. Quite quite, quite the athlete, John. Jonathan Gannon. You know, he won a state championship in basketball. District champ as a hurdler and really?

State championship as a wide receiver and defensive back. I didn't know that. Wow. They also, they also have a great thing with a hurdler. There was also, there was a good story about him and ESPN and they're talking about how like all these coaches have really expensive stuff like Mike McDaniels have $50,000 watches and all the Shanahan guys who are buddies are really expensive watches. Jonathan Gannon has a $20. Kcio Cassio, Cassio. I'm going to get me yelled at that for now. Cassio. I've only seen it written. $20 cost you a watch.

He bought 20 years ago and he wears it every day. John Gannon is the exact sort of guy and story that I would fall for and did when he was hired. And I now just universally don't like him because the Eagles lost in Super Bowl.

Everything about him, I'm like, great, dude. It was kind of his fault too because he like took the job and didn't tell him he was interviewing. A little yeast level is a whole lot, man. I ruined by Super Bowl, 38 points Patrick Holmes.

I'm done. Out on Jonathan Gannon for the rest of time. He suffered a, apparently he suffered a career ending injury at Louisville, which is what stopped his sports playing career. Yeah, I think Arizona they're going to get everything they want. All right, well, that's the NFC.

Also really quick, I want to hit the Colts because we literally just talked about the Jaguars yesterday during the Colts. But yeah, Colts, defense, cornerbacks, get a defender. They're in a good spot. Big, strong, fast. Sorry to the Colts fans who were mad at us because we took to the JNapolis. We got on a tangent that was probably my fault. Us? Are you short?

A little bit. Can you prove that with science? Anthony Richardson. Anthony Rich, there's a lot of high. We're at Anthony Richardson, and I think it's legit. I think Anthony Richardson is going to be a, oh, I cannot wait. Yeah.

I think outside corner for sure. I also, man, would not be to work. Go get you a top receiver at the top 15 would not bother me. All right. Like, listen, Pittman, good contract. Josh Downs, good. When you have the young quarterback, the CJ Stride with the Texans, you load up. So I think there's room for more pass catchers.

Also, tight end. Brock Bowers? Do you remember how, do you remember off the top of your head, like how much they were passing early on when Richardson was starting because it was a short what their pass rate was? Yeah, like was it were they super run heavy? It wasn't it wasn't like up there up there but it was up there.

It wasn't like they were like, you know, running the Dorian Thompson Robinson offense like no, they were throwing it. So thank you to the Colts Fincy email this in. Also, speaking of emails, we talked to last episode about the eclipse and wow, everyone agrees we were wrong and here's why. So apparently I learned how eclipse's work way too late. So

Chris, Dustin, the one thousand people who contacted us. A couple of people summed it up well. Chris. Dustin. Chris Dustin. My NFL comp for, because I was somehow I saw 93% totality in DC and I was like, what's up with this?

They were like, 93% totality versus full totality is like the people who saw full totality are like watching Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey play football. And they're like, wow, the football's great. And then I'm watching 93% like Daniel Jones. And I'm like, wow, why do people talk about this so much? They're like, it's the same thing. So the two to three minutes when the sun is blacked out as entirely is mind-blowing. And then we got another email from astrophysicist Adam.

Damn. Wow. Astrophysicist Adam points out that before we talked to it at the eclipse, at some point, I had quoted Ricky Bobby saying, if you ain't first or last, says that's the eclipse. The phone again. The phone! Pick it up. Pick it up.

Not the most disruptive. Put it on speaker and everything. Who is it? Put on speaker. Hello? Speaker. There's no one on the other end of this phone. You can't put speaker on the phone.

He's getting the facts right now. Oh, man. It was nobody. Respect for answering it. I think it was a Colts fan calling. Yeah. It was an eclipse of a call. That's email.

Email serenecy football, Gmail.com. But I've, it's a good, the totality thing is funny because I guess if you imagine like going to bed at night and you had a blackout blind,

how dark your room would be. But if you left the blind 7% open. and the sun is behind it. How much? Get into your room. Someone sent us a graph. I don't know how light works.

Right. Okay. Someone sent us a graph. Basically, it's like 99% totality is not. It's your first or last. And basically everyone's like, yeah, if there's any amount of sunlight, it's like a weird oddity you went to your roof to see. But everyone who was there in totality basically is, including Riley McEntee, who helps us with the NFL draft guy.

He's D. He's editor. Like, Riley's like. Oh, he wouldn't saw it? They're like, Yeah, Riley's saying it's, if you're in the path of totality, I like our term better. What was the oblivion thing you guys were talking about?

But they're saying, he just confused. Called the umbra. Okay, there's a technical term. It's umbra and it's sick. I don't know. The non-perfect area is called the penumbra. And it's beautiful. I was like a Latin.

I was one of the ghosts for this. Yeah. Everyone's saying basically it's like it's, you're on an alien planet. And a lot of people, like more than one person, we're saying it's like a life perspective shifting thing where you feel connected to everyone. Maybe that's just the mushrooms people did during the eclipse.

You told me one time to never yuck someone's yum. I was surprised that you were anti. I feel bad because I want to issue like a formal apology to everyone who is to the moon. I'm sorry. Who's the moon, hyphitz? It is really cool and I'm sorry. I think that I just was shocked that like I just had no idea like when I saw that

prisoners had sued to go outside. But now that's kind of. I actually can't believe that happened. I don't understand how that works. Like how did they gain legal counsel? I just don't understand that. But I was focused on the wrong thing. It is really cool.

I do love stuff like that. It's crazy. See, you handled this poorly. You either have to go all in or all out. Like, it was funny. You did the Larry David thing. You're like, hey, the eclipse. Who cares?

And then everybody emailed you and you should have doubled down and said, all you guys are losers. Stop staring at the sun and go about your life. I think that's no. If you're in the path of totality, it's like, go and have your like connected to the oneness of the universe. thing. It's cool. I was not in the path of totality and I kind of just wish I hadn't wasted all the time. Did you guys see the tweet? Somebody tweeted the stats of Odell Beckham before he looked

down his window and stared at an eclipse. And after he stared at the eclipse and they're like, he's like, Hall of Fame level stats. And then he stared at the eclipse and everything has just been fucking downhill since then. Dude, it's everyone's like, don't stare at the eclipse. And it's like, you know, I kind of want to stare at the eclipse. Oh, 100%. The Odell, that picture is incredible. That's me looking at Donovan People's Jones. Yeah.

Yeah, we should have, we should have like our eclipse player, like the don't stare at it, but we can't help. stare at them directly. Yeah, I'm like, Josh Palmer, don't look at him. No, it's H.N. It's Devon H.N. It's Dvon H.N. It's not. Yeah. You can't look at them.

You blind you. Devon H. H.N. is like the nudes in bio guy. Don't go. It's just the replies on any tweet. I'm a lot more tempted to look at the eclipse. I look like on the news and bio guy for being honest.

Eclipse is way more interesting to me. All right. So, yeah, genuinely like all the people who did the eclipse, it sounds cool and I'm not gonna lie. I kind of got jealous later. Okay,

so we asked everyone to email us in other natural phenomenon that are cool. Sean, I mean, this was obvious, but Sean emailed in to say, Sean,

Sean. The Northern Lights are properly rated. Pretty short, and I got a pretty short and fairly weak sighting of the Northern Lights during a trip to Rakekovich in Iceland. And it was the most incredible

and spellbinding Rakevick? All right, that's literally Icelandic. That's, you're fine. You're fine. I wasn't being mean about it. I know, I'm just getting defensive though. I'm on edge. I'm just totally fine. I probably said it wrong anyway. He says it was short and fairly weak, but it was the most incredible and spellbony thing

I've ever seen. I can only imagine what a full-scale northern lights would look like. I was scream when you guys were talking about the natural phenomenon that would be fun to witness, assuming everyone is safe and no one gets killed. I was screaming the whole time. It would be fucking rad to watch. a volcano explode. Like from a somewhat reasonable distance. Like that's...

Somewhere where you're not going to get incinerated. That's a separate conversation. That's like what thing that would kill you would you want to see up close if you could? All animals. A volcano's a good one. How about the meteor killing all the dead shot?

That's actually a good one too. I mean, yes, that would be quite something to see. Yeah. Well, you have a volcano dude. Volcanoes explode all the time. I would like to be within a vicinity to watch a volcano explode

where I'm not getting incinerated. It's different than a fucking meteor in the earth causing like global extinction. Do you know the dinosaurs died out way slower? I always thought the dinosaurs died really quickly. It took like years and it took a long time for that to happen. They like starved.

Yeah, not great. I don't know. Is that right? Yeah. Because I think all the vegetation died on Earth. They were a lot of dinosaurs wasn't, like, the meteor wasn't that big. So some of them didn't get hit.

It was fucking big. Not like the continent's big. Land in the Gulf of Mexico. There's an incredible New York article about this that just describes like what it's like. Like, they're talking about glass rain from the sky. Glass formed like vapor. Oh, geez. That's not great.

Other stuff. Yeah, that's all one day. Other, other phenomenon. Preston. Press. Preston. I grew up in the mountain. I grew up in the mountains of East Tennessee and the foothills of the smokies.

There's no phenomenon in this country. like the synchronous fireflies which I did not know what that was so I clicked on it I sent you guys the link it's right here and I had never heard of this but honestly just Google it and it's kind of insane but I guess there's like an absurd amount of fireflies that all do

they like synchronized fly whatever reason they've developed like I don't think it's genetically I think it's socially that they all turn on and off at like the same time they're synchronous literally it's pretty sick Craig have you ever experienced fireflies West Coast kid?

Yes, my extended family lives in Pittsburgh And I remember seeing them as a kid Is it just East Coast? I didn't know that either Well, I don't know everybody had fireflies I do not know if they're on the West Coast I have never seen one on the West Coast I know because I grew up for at least a few years in Nebraska

Dude, fireflies are sick They're not in California Yeah, I know that Fireflies are in Washington either As far as I know Anybody, anybody calling them lightning bugs? Oh yeah Oh yeah

I used to catch them in jars catch them in jars yeah yeah there were certain kinds of kids when you did shit

you know the kind of kids that would table top you or like kick you the balls would also the kids that would kill the fireflies and rub the scoo and I'm like

why would you murder the fireflies oh god brutal are you guys bug killers like what is the line of like bugs you would kill versus not kill flies in spite

well once in my house versus out really is the line it's out my house it's not my business is my rule but like flies in spiders yeah

what does it's there's a spider on your outdoor table at a restaurant. How big is it? Little guy. Just go, like flick it away. Honestly, spiders are good to have around because spiders capture way more butt. One spider, it's like a cat with mice. One spider is going to like ROI on the bug killer. Yeah, but are you sleeping in a room with a giant spider right above you? No.

If you could eradicate one bug and it wouldn't mess up the world's ecosystem, what bug would you? Oh my God. Mosquitoes by a fucking mile. Fuck mosquitoes. That would help a lot of people. but outside of that the spine little cricket things the cricket the big fucking

cicada no nothing the sex crazed cicadas they're coming back cicados like you saw the zombie cicadas sex the sex addled the zombies

STD bearing cicadas yeah they have the zombie gonorrhea or whatever and that they all dude this is wait now we're going to pull it up the gonorrhea cicadas or whatever God this is like what the fuck

time are we living in here I was at a wedding and outside of Philly last October overdued, a cicada landed on my back. I would love to see that reaction. And Liz was like, Craig, the largest bug I have ever

seen is attached to her back right now. She had to grab an empty wine glass and like swat it off me. That's insane. Also, in case you don't over the talk about it and you think this is fake, I'm reading from CBS News right now. Fake news. Hypersexual zombie cicadas that are infected

with sexually transmitted fungus are expected to emerge this year. Trillions of cicadas will merge across several U.S. States of spring. And they're all going to Lake Havasu. Cicada get in. Yeah, that's good. Jet skiing. So this is, people know cicadas are.

They emerge from the ground every 13, 17 years, whatever. Bizarre, fucking bug. But so what's crazy is this, they all have this STD fungus. And the fungus, the cicada, it, the fungus causes the backside of their abdomens to open up. A chalky white plug erupts out, taking over their bodies, making their genitals fall off. And then they continue to mate. You think you got problems?

Try being a cicada. Why do you keep saying cicada? Cicada. Cicada. What is it? I don't even know. Cicada tomato tomato. This is cicada for sure. I like that. You're saying it like I would imagine Haifitz would say it. Cicada. I like bit around I fits too long.

No, no, this one's on you. I'm a telling me everything. Ellen Musk and cicada is as bad as anything I've mispronounced. That's false. but okay. It's just funnier when high fits mispronances

it. Yeah. I can't, I have no justification or no explanation just when D.K. gets it wrong. I'm like,

I think that's wrong. And when you get it wrong, I'm like, let's make this the whole topic. So much says prescient, like five times in an episode, no one bats an eye. I let it go.

Yeah. It's pressure. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. No one laughs. In Ben's defense, I think prescient and pressure

are very interchangeable colloquially. It's English, though. Fiasco and Fiasco and fiasco are not English. How many times? We have to have a discussion.

But like, look, people say comfortable, even though it's comfortable. Like, there are ways people speak that, you know, are just easier. That's stuff that veers into an accent. Like, my parents call it draw instead of a drawer. And I'm like, is that a speech impediment or what's up? No, that's a heavy. That's an accent. Anyway, I would get rid of cockroaches in a second.

Oh, yeah. No, that's, that's the answer. That's got to be the answer. No, it's mosquitoes. Well, mosquitoes would like, like, cootosos are the fucking worse. Not even like the fact that. they spread disease. I fucking ate mosquitoes. Really? So not in saving the people.

Just because... No, no, no. Who cares about them? Like, no, obviously I do care about that. But like, they're the most annoying creature on Earth. The second best trivia question we ever got was how many mosquitoes would have to simultaneously suck your blood until you died? Jesus. I, uh, I don't get bitten by mosquitoes. I've never been bit by one. What?

Man, dude, I got that sweet blood. They're all over me. Like, white on rice. You've never been bit bit by mosquitoes. that mosquito and they, wait. Nope. What? Dude, I don't know. There are,

my sister would get bit by them constantly grown up and I would never get bit by them. So even the mosquitoes wouldn't hang out with you. That's why you memorized the capitals. Yeah, I was a tough vibe, dude. It was harsh. I was looking for any friends, insect or man. This is why he learned pie to 700 characters. The fucking mosquitoes didn't even want to hang out.

I do get bit by horse flies a lot when you're fishing. So those are the ones that come up to me. It was like horse lies and I can't stand those suckers. You know, I'm going to Africa for a couple weeks in May. and I have to take malaria pills. Yeah. Where are you going? I've done that before. I'm going to Kenya and Tanzania.

Safari? Yes. That's sick. Super rad. But yeah, you've got to load up. I got to get all my vaccines, like yellow fever, dengue, malaria pills. Apparently, I got to get the polio vaccine.

I think that's popped up a little bit in Africa. So I'm going to get fully loaded. Craig, probably this week. We had polio in the first half, not going to lie. We really did. It was kind of a 27th. come back situation.

That's a real L host. We kind of screwed that one up. Shanahan was administering that vaccine, I think. All right. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kuy, for producing this episode. Thank you.

Tucker, thank you, Kira. Thank you, Jack, for help behind the scenes. Thank you. Everyone for listening. Emails for your fancy football at gmail.com about what we got here. Can't even keep track. Everything we talked about this episode. Bye tickets to our Detroit show.

Yeah, Buy a Detroit show. Few tickets left. They're cheap. 200 bucks. Craig. At Craig. Stop.

I think they're 25. To be, to be clear. NFLdraft.3.com. Eight installments of $25. Look, we got to pay the bills. Thank you, Lord. Lauren.

Thank you, Toto. I bless the rains down and out. I knew you were going there. Do they have another song? Yeah, they have a couple songs. They have a couple of big songs. Yeah, do they? Yes.

I bless the rains down in Africa. They have the other ones. Hold the line. Isn't that a song by Toto? That sounds very familiar. Hold the line. Ta-da-na-na-na-na-now. Love isn't always on time.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I think that's that. It is. It is. I think the members of Toto are a little bit upset that that is the song that took off. And I think in their minds, they're like, we have a lot of other better songs than Africa.

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