The Ringer NFL Show - Every Prospect That Could Go in the First Round

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

The guys open with a brief discussion on the increasing likelihood that Bryce Young will be selected as the first overall pick and what the Houston Texans will do with the no. 2 pick (1:52). Next, they walk through which players are first-round locks as well as a few fringe guys who could sneak in at the end of the round (8:28). Finally, they close with America’s favorite segment: Two Jargons, One Lie (52:42). Check out our 2023 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Ben Solak, Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up everybody? It's Austin Rivers from the Minnesota Timberwolves. It's a new year and I have a new podcast here at the Ringer, Offguard, hosted by me and my guide, Pasha Higigi. Austin and I go way back and talk so much hoop already that we figure those time to fire up the mics and let you in on all of these conversations. Every week, Pasha and I will hit on the biggest stories happening in the league.

And get Austin's perspective of someone currently hooping in the NBA. Tap into Offguard every Friday on the Ringer NBA show feed on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. show my name is Danny Heifitz and I am joined by Danny Kelly, Ben Solick, and Craig Worldbeck. And today we're going to hit every single player we think can be taken in the first round of next week's NFL draft. That's crazy to say. First, we're going to do a mailbag episode later this week. So we're recording that mailbag Wednesday afternoon.

Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. If you have questions about the draft, you want us to answer, biggest questions entering the draft, whatever you want to know. Minor league baseball teams are. Most medium questions entering the draft? Yeah. What do you think the Bears do it? I actually kind of like that exercise. Just throw out random numbers.

Email us at Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. If you want us to answer those questions, go to DK.'s draft guide, NFL draftoff. The Ringer.com. We got Ben Sulla's quarterback charting is there. To need for me, everything, DK, mock drafts, big boards, everything's there. Nothing for me, though.

No, Craig. Don't worry about it. Craig's just chilling. I'm busy. I got stuff cooking. I got stuff cooking. We should have Craig just do like Vives rankings on the draft guide. just like, yeah.

That's pretty much what I do. That's what I bring to the show. Fibes. We're going to do all the players go through the first round, but first I want to start with just what the hell the Texans are going to do with the second pick. I think at this point, I have been convinced whatever. The Panthers are going to take Bryce Young, the quarterback from Alabama first. And now there's a whole thing of which tech quarterback the Texans will take into,

well, will they take a quarterback at all? And we've got the rare Adam Schaefter versus Ian Rappaport where Schaefter is saying, basically, The quarterback run starts later than we think. What if the Colts are confident that they might get the second quarterback in the draft at the fourth pick? So the Texans would not take a quarterback. The Cardinals presumably would not trade down with a team that wants a quarterback at three. So there'd be a fresh young first and the Colts might just pick one at four.

And then you've got Ian Rappaport saying, actually, I would be really surprised that the Texans don't take a quarterback at two. D.K., what do you make of this? What do you think the Texans are going to do? I don't get how Schaefter could know this. I guess unless he has like really strong reporting that both the. Texans and the Cardinals don't want to move. They don't want to trade at all, even though it sounds like both teams do want to trade back.

So I don't understand how he knows that neither team will trade back and someone will come up for a quarterback. Because he's saying, essentially, Schaefter is reporting, he does not see it going quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, early in the draft. And I'm like, I just don't understand how he could know that and report that with any confidence. So that's where I am.

But we'll see. He, you know, obviously he's an extremely plugged in guy. But it just seems like there's too many. variables to keep track of for that to be the case. I think the single best part of this entire process has been how horribly bagholding the Cardinals are going to be if they have to pick at three. This team has one good player currently on the roster. His name is Kyler Murray. He's probably not going to play for much longer, but he's there. The only position, what's like, yeah, we got our guy, we're good, which isn't even true is quarterback, but they want to pick

a guy next year. They want to go to Caleb Williams or Drake May or whatever. And they're there at three, and they had that leak a couple weeks ago where they were like, oh, so many teams are calling us, man. Just an exhausting number. Oh, six teams have called us. Oh, please stop calling us. So many calls the third overall pick. And now it's like, oh, the Cardinals might have to stay and take just like a kind of good defender because everybody knows that the quarterbacks are going to make it past them. The Texans at two, failing to get the Panthers deal done at one, when it was the Bears pick and misreading or not being aggressive enough. And basically the fact that they only want Bryce Young and the team that's now one of the first of a role pick wants Bryce Young.

The Texans are two and then the Cardinals at three with their leaks and then with the debates there, if those two teams actually have to stay and select, it's really awkward for both of them. I think the Texans have to pick a quarterback. I think you can do as much theory as you want. It's much like, oh, we really like Will Anderson. It's exciting for Will. you can say as much as you like in your scouting meetings, right, in your personnel department,

the second the owner gets involved, oh, Davis Mills for another year? Yeah, no, you're going to pick a quarterback. Go get him, Tiger. You know, whatever, not Bryce Young, I feel so bad for you. Go get me somebody who I can market you and get excited about. I think that there's no way they can't take a quarterback at two. So to be clear, you're saying,

Shifter's wrong. I can't remember which one has which take. Shifter says I always, I always conflate the two of them. I need one of them to have a different hair color. is the moral of the story. I can't remember which one's way sometimes. Yes, Schaefter thinks they're not taking a quarterback.

He's confidently reporting that there's only going to be a court. Basically he's saying it's Bryce Young number one, and then there's going to be the other two guys are not going off the board right away. I just can't, I can't fathom the idea that the Texans are just going to come back with Davis Mills. There's no way in hell that happens. So I'm doing another mock draft this week,

and I'm not the first person to think of this, but they also have the 12th pick. And so I've got them taking Will Anderson at number two and then trading back up a couple spots with the Eagles to number 10 and taking Will Levis. Spoiler alert for people who haven't read my mock draft yet. But yeah, like to me, they have other options. It's not just quarterback or bust.

In other words, at number two, it's like they can take a quarterback at number 12 if they think one of those guys that they like is going to fall. And by the way, there's been some connections with Levis and the Texans. Right now, Lil Levis is the favorite to go to overall. And that was not true 48 hours ago. Wow.

Interesting. D.K., what you're saying is extremely possible. I think the Texans are totally might look at the board and be like, well,

why, let's just have our cake and eat it too. Take Will Anderson and then let's just let let us fall and we'll get both. And when the Giants pick Daniel Jones, a lot of people, one of the Giants do that

because they're like, well, Daniel Jones isn't worth the sixth pick, but the Giants are also picking 17th, so just take him later. And even then, and I didn't like Daniel Jones as a prospect. I think this is insane.

insane. Like I think it's actually crazy to be like, we think this guy, Will Levis, can be the future of our franchise. But we'll also just let him hang in the balance for 10 picks, possibly floating to one of our division rivals. Because we want him to, how do you sell someone who's like, this is the face of our franchise by season tickets? This guy's going to lead us to the promised land. Also, we kind of weren't that worried that anyone else would take him. I just, it's kind of insane to me. I get the idea if the Texans are just like, D'Amico, Ryan's came from the Niners and the Niners built everything around and then dropped a quarterback in the middle of it. That argument I get where they're like this team sucks. Is Demico calling, is DeMico calling shots? Demico's a first year head coach. She's the third first year head coach in a row,

Nick Kassarra's being the gym in the gym the team the Texans might get fired after the draft, which is kind of fascinating. I mean, Jack Easterby who brought Kassar to the Texans got fired last year. So I don't know what's going on in Houston, but overall I'm still kind of like, take a quarterback. Also, right now it's Stroud is favored to be the, Of the quarterback, Stroud is favorite to be the number two overall pick on Fandall. And Lovus is right after him. I can promise you that Will Levis at one time was up there. Because he's got tickets.

Hello. No comment. Exactly. I would never. No, I've joined so lacking the ticket. I might along with some stuff and we'll levis. Fandall, if you're listening, Fandall, bring it in, bring it in. Last year, we could parlay first round picks.

So you could take, like, Leweson and Dax Hill and whoever to go first round. you can parley all of those. That has yet to happen this year. I would like to give you my money, Fandall Sportsbook. Big fan of Fandall's sportsbook. Let's get that rolling again. So I'm going to do it for the next nine days

before the first round, which is probably 10 days away. It's crazy. It was almost here. It's a perfect segue. So like, because today we're going to do the green room invites. And if you ever watch the draft, you know, the guys show up to the draft, they got the suits, they go hook Roger Goodell, and they wait in the green room.

But some guys wait a really long time. Like uncomfortably long time. A lot of close-up camera shots. A lot of distressed family members. It's not good. I always think about Brady Quinn, but I forgot last year that Malik Willis and Coby Dean were invited to the draft and they went in the third round. So this is an interesting point.

Like, remember how we all thought Malik Willis was going to be a first round pick? Like, it wasn't just draft winner for the record. The NFL invited him to the first round thing. So just saying. So even the NFL doesn't know what's going on. That's the thing. So we're going to fix this process. We're going to make sure no one gets embarrassed.

We're going to send out our invites for the 20, 23 NFL draft. Nothing could go wrong here. No, nothing could go wrong. So we're going to just figure out exactly who's going to go. And we're going to go through the list. We're going to go, I don't know, it's like a wedding. It's like you do your locks, right? And then you kind of like, you know, people on the border.

And then we're like, all right, we're going to fill this out. Craig's going through this right now. I'm familiar with this, yeah. So there you go. So I'm going to just read through my list of the guys that I think are like locks for the first round. I'm just going to go position by business. Not like the order they'll be taken, but just at each position the locks. If any of you guys disagree, please speak up and forever

hold your, or forever hold your peace. And then we're going to go, get into like the fringe guys. But just going position by position, like these guys I think are locks going to the first round. Like, they're getting invites. We're going to go to the Taylor, get your suit. Quarterback, it's Bryce Young from Alabama, C.J. Strad from Ohio State. Anthony Richardson from Florida. Will Levis from Kentucky. Those guys are locks. Running back,

it's just Bajon Robinson from Texas. Yep. Receivers, Jackson Smith and Jigba from Ohio State. Zay Flowers, Boston College, Quentin Johnson, TCU. But Ben, do you think Quentin Johnson's a lock to be round one? No. Maybe let's take him and put him down a notch. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. I would say Zay is more likely to go around one than QJ at this point. Yeah, okay. We said more likely, though. If you have to hesitate, it's a lock. Lock. I have, I have bets on Zay Flowers to be the first,

wider receiver taken, I bet some Zayflowers under draft position at 22 and a half. I think Zay's going around one. Let's call him a lock. Okay, lock for Zayflowers. Tight end, I've just got Dalton Kincaid from Utah and Michael Mayer from Notre Dame as locks in the first round. Yeah.

I got the four offensive tackle, so it's Paris Johnson from Ohio State, Peters Karanski from Northwestern, Broder Jones from Georgia, Darnell Wright from Tennessee. Those are the only locks I have in O'Line. I'm fine with that. Defensive tackle, Jalen Carter from Georgia. Yep. And then pass rushers. I got Will Anderson from Alabama, Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech, Nolan Smith, Georgia, and Lucas Van Ness from Iowa.

Here's my thing with Van Ness. Like, all of my opinions aside, we did a huge Lucas Van Ness. Oh my gosh, he's so good. He's going to go super early like three months ago and then since then nothing. Which I just weird to me. Like, I don't understand where that went. Like, he just now gets thrown on the first round of mock drafts because we've been doing that for a while. I'm a little bit hesitant on Ness, but I'm fine if we leave him.

Somebody, so I can't forgive me again. I can't remember who said this. I was saying if there's one, quote unquote, like big name guy that's going to follow the first round, it might be Van Ness. Okay. And so. So not a lock. Like, if we change lock from gun to head, I wonder if this changes your guys who's like,

Oh, Zayflowers out. Like, gun to head, say flowers? Like, or is he just a lock? They're supposed to do this. We're downgrading them. If there's hesitation, it's not a lock. No, this is not a life and death situation. This is they get awkward in the green room.

Who cares? Let's go. It's a lock. It's what it means. We got. We got to take a stand on some of these guys, or else there's like four guys that we feel gunned ahead are going to be first routers.

Well, no, all right. So the court, and then finish out the locks here. Christian Gonzalez from Oregon, Devin, Devin, Smith, from Illinois, and then Joey Porter, Junior Penn State. So we moved down Van Ness, and we moved down Quentin Johnson. That's only 20 guys that were like locked on.

And then I've got this 20 is a lot. I feel good about us. We did a good job with this. Yeah, I would have, I would, if I were doing it myself, I probably would lock fewer than 20. But I'm a scared little boy. Yeah, wait. So, Ben, last year, your mock draft.

How many players did you get correctly going in the first round? I can check my huddle report score, which I will only bring up if it's better than DKs. I don't think I didn't do that. Because I love just breezing through these picks and is just already landing on 20 guys who are locks. And like, is that like an extremely high number? Yeah. 20 is actually a lot, I feel like. So when these guys fall out?

What's more thoroughly examine this? So last year, the best mock draft scores, like the best mock drafters got 29 of the 32 first round round picks correct, right? When they submitted their final mock, you only see a couple that have that. I got last year 27 of the 32 first round picks correct. I only got six team to player correct, right? So only had six perfect matches. That was tied for the 71st best score of all the mocks that they got, which they get like,

about 200. So I was like, you know, like upper, upper half, but but not, not incredible. The best, the best mockers, like, Ben Stadig of the, of the athletic, who typically does a really good job year over year. Good guy to read his mocks when we get close. He got 10 team to player matches correct.

So people get, like, the best mocks get like less than one third of the picks, exactly correct. It's hard to do. I'd like for it to be known, overall on the top 30 mock drafter on the entire board, okay? Average score of 40.

You guys can go ahead and put your pipe and spell. No, you're very good at this. Last year was not a great year for me, sadly. So I like to pipe in here real quick. I am looking at my mock draft from last year, which I didn't get a ton of team and player connections correct. However, I did get 30 out of 32 first rounders, correct. I missed on. 30.

I had Malik Willis. Is that like number one? It would have been last year if DK submitted. You just didn't submit, you like ran a marathon, like side by side with the other marathoners and you would have won? I'm doing this for myself, right. I'm not doing this for external validation, you guys. I think if I submit again this year, if I try to do this year, I'll get like four right.

I'll probably be like literally dead last in this. This year's going to be a great year because nobody has any idea what the heck is going on. It's going to be chaos. I can't wait. Scott Barrett had a funny tweet saying, after thousands of hours of meticulous research, here is my official mock draft. And it says one, Bryce Young. And it's two to 32. I don't know. And honestly, like, that might be wrong. It's one Bryce Young. six, Devon Witherspoon, two through five, seven through 32, nobody knows.

But yeah, this is, this is like, I think they say this every year. This is something that gets said every single year. And I get that. I recognize this is a little bit of a cliche. But, like, this does feel like the year where there's just some extremely random shit that happens in the first round because there's so few guys that are in that, like, top tier of players. And I think the second tier of players, like, so like what you'd consider typically like a second

rounder is like 60 players. So there could be like anybody. Adam Schaefter. Steelers are bringing Rams wide receiver Alan Robinson for a physical and if he passes, a trade to Pittsburgh is expected to happen. Oh wow. Let's fucking go. We go to Craig Holbrook

Alan Robinson. That man still has a lot of juice in the tank. I watched it and said he's got a lot to go. Juice in the tank. We got to check the tank. We got to check the tape. If there's any team I trust with a wide receiver, it is the Pittsburgh Steelers. How old is Alan Robinson? The man's 29. The man is 29 years old.

Watch a play and guess his age. I'm so locked in. I'm locked in. He can help mold George Pickings. I very much would love someone to take the time and effort to go back and find everything that Craig has said about Alan Robinson in the last calendar year, especially after the season started. I think we hyped him up during the preseason way too much.

It's time. It's time to play name Rams receivers. is not named Cooper Cup. Ben Scoronic. This is a fun game. Actually, this isn't that hard because a lot of them had to play last year because the province team were hurt.

Yeah, 2-2, Van Jefferson. This is huge for 2-2. Rams starting offensive 11 once Allen Robinson has traded. Matthew Stafford, handing the ball off to Cam Acres, throwing the ball to Ben Scoronic, Cooper Cup, and Van Jefferson behind an offensive line of Joe Nobomb,

Alarick Jackson, Brian Allen, Logan, Bruce, Rob Habenstein, and Tideon Tyler Higby. This team is winning four games next year. Don't forget Hunter Long, buddy. Yeah, Hunter Long. Who's worth half of a Jalen Ramsey, apparently? Also, can he pick it like the second best quarterback Alan Robinson's ever played with? Whoa, that's a great question.

Wow. I'll take it. Wow. There you go. Say to cling to, Craig. Okay. Wow. Great pod. On the draft. So first of all, I'm going to go to 20 locks.

Not that crazy. I think the 20 locks are conservative. I don't think any of you guys are pulling any of those guys out. Well, yeah. Okay. I would say, if I was going to hesitate on any of the guys, Zayflowers I hesitate on, I'd say probably literally both the tight ends. I'm like not 100% sure on.

And that's probably about it. Maybe Nolan Smith. I did have a little bit of a flutter on Kincaid just because of the injury stuff. He didn't test. He's got a back injury. But there's been so much Daniel Jeremiah hype. And DJ is typically a good barometer for the league likes this guy. So I'm okay with it.

Okay. Well, let's just keep the 20. So, yeah. Okay. So I will note those, but I'm curious about the next group of guys who are going to fill out the back of the first round because first of all, it's just kind of, there's just incredible players that always go in the back of the first round,

and then also it's kind of exciting when, like, the next day comes and like this guy, like your team gets a great second round or two, like, you know, like the Steelers, Craig, having the first pick of the second round, unless they send it away for Alan Robinson, you know, you never know. I'm curious about which of these guys you think could go in the back of the first round. So we got, I would say probably, but not locks. Deontay Banks, the cornerback from Maryland.

I think banks should be a lock. He's a lock? Yeah, love a banks. Miles Murphy, edge rusher from Clemson. He's like a lock, but you hesitate, right? Probably. He's a probably. Yeah. Brian Branch from Alabama, who's a cornerback?

I don't even know what to call him. He's a slot. Nicol. Is that, he's a slot? Yeah. He's creating some betting confusion because we don't know if sports books are going to grade him as a corner as a safety. So like over under four and a half corners in the first round starts to get weird.

He falls under like good player theorem where it's like, all right, hard to find a mock draft spot for him. It's like, who wants a small slot safety? But at the same time, he's really good. And so someone's going to take him because he's good at football. And it's going to make sense when they do. Speaking of good of football, Osiris Torrance, the guard from Florida. Deke, I feel like we haven't even talked about Osiris Torrance, but good at football.

Because he's a guard. No one cares about guards, but he is very good. I think he's very strong, physical, like just gets guys blocked. But he's a guard. So no one gives a shit. Brian Bresi, same story. Defensive tackle from Clemson. It's like, yeah, he's a defensive tackle.

He's a defensive tackle. It's the number one overall recruit from way back in the day, which gives him a little bit of clout. But yeah, I mean, like defensive tackle, he's not Jalen Carter. He's a good defensive tackle slasher, but I don't know. To me, he's like sort of a borderline first. I have a question about these end of the first round guys. So obviously, like, when you're looking at the top 15 guys,

you can predict that they're going to go in the first round because of talent. No one's going to let them pass up if one team does another one will grab them. When you're trying to predict who's going to go at the end of the first round, are you more looking at the teams who actually have picks and what the best fit is, or are you just still basing this off talent? Talent position, I would say, like profile of the player.

Like when Hyfit said Deonti Banks, I was like, oh, Banks is going first round. The reason is because Banks is a corner. We've seen a lot of corners go end of the first round recently. Noeig binagony, Jeff Gladney, D'Andre Baker, Kevin King, Tyson Campbell. We just seen like a lot of corners go late.

Late first, excuse me. And then Deonti Banks jumped and ran out of his mind. Like, you don't get this athlete at the, this important of a position outside of the first round. It's just very rare to find that happen. I think Tyson Campbell is the first pick of the second round. So, okay, Dianti Banks is the lock for top 33 then. To me, like, that's sort of a profile.

When when Hypo's brought up Breezy, Brian Breezy, D.K goes, well, he was the first overall recruit four years ago, right? And, like, that's the thing is, like, that's sort of a profile of a guy playing defensive tackle, which is a really thin group. It's not a lot of strong guys. That's sort of guy that typically you see, like, go in the end of the first round.

Guys, like, teams just kind of swinging on, on high-tier guys who was super early. Whereas again, Osiris Torrance, great player. One of the best 32 players in this class, no question. Round one? Just a solid guard? Yeah.

That profile doesn't really fit as much. So that's where it gets tricky. So there's a whole other group of guys that I don't think I'd be surprised if they went at the end of the first or the top of the second. I just kind of like want to run through these guys. And I want to start with Darnell Washington tight-in from Georgia because I think that we've talked, we love the tight ends in this draft.

Dalton Kincaid, D.K., kind of wanted to compare to Travis Kelsey, but was afraid that people would yell at him, but Dalton Kincaid is kind of like Travis Kelsey. And Michael Mayer is like this classic tight end. I wasn't afraid people were going to yell at me. I'm just like trying not to jinx him essentially. But yes, same thing. But that's fair. But then you got Darnell Washington who's like the maybe the biggest target an NFL

quarterback will ever have. Yeah. But also isn't the most refined player? Hasn't had a ton of production. I'm curious. Like, do you think Darnell Washington's like, a first rounder. Well, the reason he's on this part of the list is because I don't know.

I think he's like a fringe first rounder. I think if you subscribe to like planet theory where there's just not many people on the planet that are his size and move the way he does, like he's rare enough for me to be a first round pick. Plus the way that he can be utilized in both the run game and the passing game as like a blocker and a pass catcher. He's quietly like really good after the catch like makes a lot of broken tackles. He like leaps over guys.

I think there's a lot of meat on the bone as a pass catcher. But the reason I don't feel certain that he's a first runner is because, number one, I'm just not certain any of these tight ends are going to be first rounder. And number two, he just does not have very much production. He was behind Brock Bowers at Georgia. Bowers is one of the best past catching. He was the best pass catching tight end in football last year. And he's probably going to be a top 15 pick.

So he kind of just got buried and was relegated to doing like the dirty work at tight end. And so he didn't have the stats that typically you'd, you know, connect to it. a first round tight end. So I suspect he'll probably, I would say he's more likely going to be a second rounder, but he could sneak in to the first round. I think we send Darnel Washington an invite. Can I ask another question related to Darnel, Washington?

D.K., you're talking about his lack of, like, literal experience and lack of playing time, stuff like that. Which position group do you think their lack of playing time affects them the least when getting drafted? That's a great question. I think obviously, like, it's hardest with quarterback. tight end is he doesn't it's not like he has not a lot of experience playing in games i just don't think he has a ton of production from in the passing game yeah because it was mainly like a blocker

um in terms of darn out Washington um and then i'd say like running back is probably just in terms of the NFL like if you have physical talent and traits like you can go out there and run around type of deal obviously there's more to it than that but um i think they're generally speaking easier to like get on the field early on. And it's nice to have low mileage when you're running back, right? It's nice to have as much as much wear your tires. Yeah. Yeah.

The question is really interesting, Craig, because it's a little bit of a confounding variable. It's less what positions does less experience matter? Or does it was just having low experience, you know, not affect your draft stock as you put it? And it's more like which positions see redshirt sophomores come out and which ones don't. Right? You just very rarely see a three-year, you know,

like a retro sophomore guard or tackle come out. It's just very, very irregular for an office alignment to declare early. I think the same thing is true for like interior defense align. You see a lot of those guys just go back to school. It's just nice to be a year older, a year bigger. And like you're not, you don't have high velocity collisions in the trenches. And so you're not risking as much in terms of like that major injury, right? You know, risking as much terms of that ACL injury.

Wide receiver. You see a ton of retroite sophomores come out early. right? You see a ton of young guys come out early. Because if you show up, you're a great athlete, you're a high recruit, you get put on the field right away. They feed you the football and you produce a ton. Just get yourself for the league. Go, go, go, go. You're going to go get drafted. So it's a little bit like, it's a hard question to answer because it's not really the question. It's kind of like a separate thing, a separate phenomenon that kind of conflates the conversation. But my first thought was

wide receiver because you'll see just really talented young athletes say, I'm just going to, I've already produced the college level. I've shown that I'm fast and I've shown that I have hands. I'm just going to get to the NFL, and they're going to really develop me. They're going to bring me along. And that's how I'm going to go. Like this year has a couple of counter examples, right? Like, say, Flower chose to go back to Boston College because of how committed he was to his degree. And like that's great.

But in general, you see that position, I think, skew pretty young. Speaking of receiver, another guy that's, I think, is like this fringe first rounders, is Jordan Addison from USC. And he's insanely productive, but he's also just small. Or maybe he wasn't even as productive as he could have been. He had like almost 1,600 yards at Pitt with Kenny Pickett in 2021 and then went to USC and didn't even crack 900. And there was, he had the, he won the award in 2021 for the best receiver in America and then transferred USC with a lot of expectations. And I'm curious, DK, do you think Jordan Addison is a first, like, would you invite Jordan Addison to the green room?

Probably not. It's not that I don't think he is going to get picked in the first route. I just think there's enough doubt over his profile in terms of his size. His size is mainly the big thing. And the fact that his numbers went down pretty dramatically in 2022 versus 2021. If I would have been, if you had asked me like after 2021 and I hadn't seen anything happened in 2022, I'd be like, oh yeah, he's like top 15 lock. You know what I mean?

Like he was one of the best receivers in college football in 2021. He won the Bolitnikov, as you mentioned. He was an absolute like, he was wrecking havoc on defenses in that in that scheme and that offense. He was getting deep. He was running after the catch, all that stuff. And then in 2022, it just wasn't the same. It wasn't quite like the same dynamic.

He wasn't as, I would just say he wasn't as impressive. I think you have to dig a little bit deeper and try and in order to see him as like a lock for Surrounder. Like he's a very good route runner. He's like savvy. And there's a lot of like sort of things like that that you could like talk yourself into him being like a lock, lock for surrounder. But I think the fact that he came in at 173 pounds or whatever it was, something like that.

And then ran. He didn't run like an elite. 40 didn't have the elite explosiveness that you see from like the chrysalovets the garret wilson's um you know of late that to me makes it me worried enough to say that like if we're actually inviting him like i probably wouldn't invite him just because i think there's a chance based on his size and his speed and explosiveness and his stats that he he may fall into the like early second round yeah so right now like fandled uh first wide receiver drafted odds justice has been the jigo minus 250 lock it up for him to be in the first round

Zay Flowers is plus 350. And then the next closest is Jordan Addison and plus 600. And that's why for me, like, I feel way more strongly that Zay is going round one than Jordan Addison is. And similar profiles here, right? A little bit undersized. Want to be a speed threat.

One big guy who breaks tackles after catch the ball. Wanted to be elusive, right? Playing the slot a little bit, but also play outside. Like similar profiles. But markets-wise, we're a lot more confident Zayflowers going round one than Jordan Atta's company. He's going earlier. Quentin Johnston, who's the question mark there to TCU,

he's got a different profile. And that's why if you made me choose between inviting one guy to the green room, Jordan Addison or Quentin Johnson, I'd take Johnson. Because Johnson's 6-2-215. And he fills a different role. So it is to say that if you take all the teams that could reasonably take a small receiver and put them in one bucket, and then all the teams who could reasonably take a big receiver

and put them in another bucket, Jordan Addison's got to compete with Zay Flowers for one of those spots, It's one of those teams, whereas Quinn Johnson doesn't. I think, like, Hypaters your Giants are a perfect example. Giants got Wondell Robinson, Sterling Shepherd, some other dudes, I'm forgetting. So many slots. In the building. All of the smalls you ever seen.

And then they got Isaiah Hodgins. And it's like, right. When you look at this room and you say, like, if you tell me that the Giants had a receiver, I much more so expected to be a guy of Johnson's mold than I expect to be Addison's mold. Doesn't mean it won't be Addison. they clearly have shown that they're okay with this sort of a player. I just feel like they have enough dudes. And so that's why like I think that Addison's out of the first round personally.

I don't think he makes it. I would not invite him to the green room. And if you made me choose between those two, I'm inviting Johnson a lot faster. What about your guy Hendon Hooker, Solek? I'm inviting him to the green room. Why, you just want to see him fall? You just want to watch him to your family cry. Just because you're mean.

You say this. Either win because I'm in the green room and that's that's a win for me or I win. or I win because he didn't go first round and I get to laugh at him and he doesn't get like, no, no, no, no. I just personally, like, I want to take Henning Hooker that high. Not the, not the sort of profile that look for a quarterback, not the sort of film that I think is first round viable.

With that said, I initially believed Tendin Hooker first round hype to be a sciop directed at me to make me go insane and leave draft coverage permanently. I now believe it to be legitimate. I think Henan Hooker has a better chance to go round one than not. Again, markets-wise, that is. is not the case. This is worth emphasizing over four and a half quarterbacks in the first round,

which is functionally a market of does Head and Hooker go in the first round. That is favored to the no, right? It's favored to under four and a half quarterbacks. It's favorite to Hover, it's favorite to Hoker, not making it in the first round. I'm of the opinion that he will. I think that there are a lot of teams that need quarterbacks are looking for tradeups for quarterbacks that are interested in the quarterbacks and a couple of people are going to be left out in the cold out of those first four.

And then it's going to be a long time watching a Hendon Hooker, who is graded very highly by the NFL. I'll just kind of sit there and wait. And that fifth year option is going to be dwindling. There's only going to be a few picks left. And you'll start making calls about tradeups. I can see him going anywhere in the 20s. I think August's the first round pick.

Craig said earlier about like sometimes the guys at the end of the first round are just positions. You know what I mean? Like you were saying so like like sometimes there's cornerbacks taken at the end of the first round just because they're amazing athletes. And you can't get those guys. And I'm wondering pass rushers too or we just kind of fall out. And Dekam curious about the past rushers at the end of the first round that we

haven't talked about a ton that just might get taken by the Eagles of the Chiefs, just because there's a pass rusher and we're on the board. And if you want to go to the AFC playoffs, you need to collect these kinds of people. Yeah. And so I would say, and when I've been doing my mocks, like I feel like I just been rotating these guys, but like they will do in the playoffs if they have to rush the passers. Right. There's several players that I think have a strongish chance of being in the first round,

even though might have them ranked a little bit lower. Like Keon White out of Georgia Tech and Will McDonald out of Iowa State. Wait, no, Will McDonald's, you compton the draft code to the Tasmanian Devil. Yeah, that's because he spams a spin move. Like, he loves the spin move, just like constantly spinning around. Tasmanian devil, get it? No, connection. Yeah.

I'm there. I'm with you. No, yeah, you didn't have to explain. It was just not very funny. It's funnier now, though. Yeah, for sure. Anyways, but here's the deal, though. He's like 236 pounds, so he's tiny.

And he's, like, 24 years old. So there's question marks about his size and there's question marks about, like, his developmental arc is he already maxed out where he is. Even though I do think he's a good player and he's an exciting player and he's got a lot of Twitch. He's one of the most athletic edge rushers in this class. He can really threaten the edge. But there's just question marks around that. Keon White is different, very different style.

He's 65, 286, 286, 280s. I probably play somewhere in the 270s or 280s. Sort of an inside outside guy, but he's also a little older. Started out as a tight end in college at Old Dominion and then, transitioned to defensive end, defensive line, and then here we are. He was a guy that, like, Daniel Jeremiah was really high on him early in the process,

and he's since cooled on him, didn't have, like, a super impressive senior bowl, and now I think he's more of like a late first rounder type, but there was a point in time when DJ had him in the top 10, I think, and so there was a lot of hype around him, but I think more realistically he's probably going to be. Yeah, he's more realistically, like a late first, early second type, because he's really big and strong and physical

and like he has a high floor, I think. But, you know, it's sort of like the Van Ness question is like, what's his ceiling? I was going to read off a couple other guys. I think that fit in the same exact mold. Felix Nudike Uzoma from Kansas State, I think has a solid chance to sneak into the back half of the first round. And BJ O'Dulari from LSU is another guy to have like in back your mind. Yeah.

The edge class, no one's getting invited at the green room or everybody's getting invited to the green room. When we get to that second tier of guys, we get to the Miles Murphy. Keon White, Will McDonald, Felix, and Dukke, Usoma, BJ, or Jalari. Everybody comes and nobody comes. I don't know who's going where. Somebody's going late. Look at the Saints at 30, Eagles at 31, even the Bengals at 29, and the Chiefs at 32,

which I know those aren't the actual numbers, but anytime I start thinking about the end of the first round, I can't do the math fast in my head to subtract one from all of the numbers. For some reason, it just doesn't work for me. So those last four picks in the first round, there's a lot of edge rush or potential. And there's just like a glut of guys who are kind of theoretically may be good at some point. I cannot, the fact that

Keon White got an actual invitation to the game room. He got literally invited. Like, he's literally invited to the first round of the NFL draft is bananas. This is a 24-year-old pass rusher from Georgia Tech who was not productive until he was 24. I don't know

about that one, Chief. That's scary for me. I want you guys to pick, I'm going to call this the Tom Cruise Award, because Tom Cruise, everybody thought Tom Cruise is going to go to the Oscars. It was a guaranteed lock. Seriously, because they thought he was going to be the guy in the front row, who everybody would mention when they got up there because Top Gun was nominated.

Tom Cruise has never won an Oscar. This is his first nomination as a producer, and if it had a chance to win best picture, for sure Tom Cruise would be there. Everybody thought so. And then he didn't show up. So who is like a top 10 guy, maybe top 15 guy that you think is a guaranteed lock, but there is a sliver of a possibility that he falls out of the first round?

Is it Anthony Richardson? No. Will Levis? No. No, probably not. It is hard to figure out. No, I think that it's an injury thing. I think that it's either something you already mentioned of like a Lucas Van Ness or you're

talking about Jackson Smith and Jigba where it's just like, yeah, they're like, he played one game with a hamstring injury and they're like, they don't like the medicals or so. Like you said, Dalton Kincaid where it's like, you know, I think they always like learn those kinds of things. Yeah, I was going to say, I feel like on this list, they're being very conservative on this list, by the way. like Keon White to me looks like the most likely guy that is the last person in the green room. But none of these guys really have that strong of chance.

I feel like a falling out of the first round. Like unless there's an injury situation that we do not know about or there's like a gas mask bong situation, you know, on Thursday night, then these guys do. It does feel pretty strong like most of these are locks. Yeah. If you had to make me guess of the 17 that got actually invited, I would say Keon White is definitely the most likely to fall. Jordan Addison, I would say, is the second most likely to fall.

The name that I will say that, like, I just could see falling and everybody is surprised by it is Joey Porter Jr. I would be shocked just because he is an NFL legacy, right? Like, I think that like... Because of his name, literally. Yeah, people, you get to 26, I can drop Joey Porter Jr.'s kid. Let's go. But you just don't hear a lot about him, right? Like, yeah, like, Wethven Gonzalez is obviously the features.

you hear a lot about Deonté Banks. Like the league, I think, is really high on banks. I think the media is there on Banks as well. Porter Jr. is just kind of like, yeah, because he's a first rounder. He was named Jeff Smith. Where would he go? I still think back into the first round. But I can't say that, like, the Porter Jr. hype has been like, you know,

oh, Porter Jr. is taking meat with the Ravens. Oh, like, here's their board at this, you know, for this position. And like, oh, like, you know, the Jaguars at 26 are interested in Joy Porter Jr. you just haven't gotten a lot of that. And those are like teams in the 20s are going to have corner picks. I don't know. I could see Porter Jr.

being a weird draft night slide. Get out of the first round. I don't know. I feel like at some point you're just like, I'm going to draft Jordan Porter's kid. Let's get him. And he's good. This sounds fun.

The Bronny James, yeah. I get it. No one? That's LeBron James' son who's probably going to get drafted into the NBA because he's LeBron James' kid. He's actually enough like good. No, I got it.

I got it. We're going to go under the Cole Stranger. awards in a moment, which are the randoms who could crash? But before that, are they any other guys you guys who want to highlight that could slide into the back of the first round? Okay. Go for it, Ben.

So there's two names to me that I think could be, these are not cold strangers because they're not like names out of nowhere. Everybody knows the names. But they can make it into the first round, and I think a lot of people would be surprised. I'm like, no, I get that. That makes sense. Like, I haven't heard the hype for them too much, but I'm fully there. The first is Alabama running back to Mir Gibbs.

Jamir Gibbs just good. It's just very good. It's just good at football. No, he's a running back. Whatever. Yeah, but like, he's also good. Buffalo, Cincinnati. Like the teams at the end of the first round

trying to deal with offensive firepower. These are teams that like are going to be interested in Jemir Gibbs. Buffalo, a little bit less so, I guess. Like, they really like James Cook. But like, I'm always very tempted to give Cincinnati Jamir Gibbs a 29. They have no future running back. That would be kind of awesome.

I would love that, actually. It would be sick. It would be so good. So Jemir Gibbs is one. that I think is important to highlight there. And then the second is Drew Sanders, the linebacker out of Arkansas. We pretty much didn't talk about

off-ball linebacker at all. There's a reason for that. The class tooks! With that said, Drew Sanders, all right? Is like a Micah Parsons-esque player. Now, that's a very scary thing to say. But he is a ex-edged rush commit to Alabama,

highly ranked Alabama past rushing commit, all right? Stick with me. But then transfer to Arkansas. And in Arkansas's defense, they played him at offball linebacker, Michael Parsons. And then they would move him down to pass rusher. And he's long and he's super fast. He's like 6-4-240, like similar Parsons build.

He can absolutely fly. And he gives you pass-rush value. In a class where there's just no linebackers. Like I understand that like people think Iowa linebacker Jack Campbell is going round one, more on him later. But to me, like, the only dude that's got the athletic profile where I'm like legitimately excited about him in the NFL is Drew Sanders. And he also can rush the passer. He can legitimately land up on the edge and go. I think Sanders should be a first round pick.

And I would not be surprised if he is a first round pick. Going back to Craig's question, like, how do you find these guys who go back in round one? Profiles. This guy was a, like, I think five star. Yeah, he was the number. To Alabama, dude. He was like, so like, he was the number one athlete in the country in terms of,

that was his, he was recruiting, whatever category was athlete, because he played in high school he played quarterback receiver linebacker and a couple other positions his dad was like a coach he transferred high schools midway and so he like basically played a little bit of everything which makes sense like he's just so versatile he's such a great athlete he's got great length he's tall he's six four two thirty five he's only 21 years old i had some issues with him as purely just like an off ball linebacker like when i was watching him you know there's times it didn't look like he saw it that well and i don't know but like if you talk about him in the same vein as like Michael Parsons where they're going to move him around and have him rush to pastor and stuff like that to me changes the equation and so I can 100% see that if he lands in a situation where they're going to like let him loose like that I'm all aboard with that and I think that's what makes him so interesting and I do think he probably will be a first runner all right I want to get to the Nuga awards new guy Coles Chattanooga who are the strangers who could crash the first round Let's just go back and forth here. I'm going to throw one out.

And because this is in the vein of Cole Strange, John Michael Schmitz from Minnesota, like a center. Like if a team needs a center, there's not that many centers in this class. I could absolutely see a team in the back half of the first round, like the late 20s being like, look, we just want a starting center. Let's take this guy.

And I think there's enough demand for center. And there's like so few guys that are actually worth like taking in this class that he could end up getting pushed up. So he would be, I think, the biggest goal strange for me is just literally a random center that someone wanted to plug and play in their offense. John Michael Schmitz. Sounds like the best friend in a rom-com. I'll give you an even randomer interior offensive lineman from an even less known school. Do it.

I think. Less known school. Cody Mock at a North Dakota state. Yeah. Cody Mouch. This is the toothless guy. He literally has no front teeth. So Mock went to the Senior Bowl. I played tackle in North Dakota State,

and then the senior ball that kicked him inside because size-wise, probably going to play on the inside. Now, he got his grits cooked for a week on the inside. He's not ready for it. Grits-cruits-old. He's going to need a little bit of time. But, like, he's like a top 40 player for DJ. And again, we're talking about this interior offensive line class.

We go at Guard specifically, because there's two good centers, John Michael Schmitts, and then Joe Titman out of Wisconsin. I'll actually like a bit. but at Guard, it's like Osiris Torrance, Steve Avila out of TCU, who's another could, could, could Coltrane. Does he have front teeth? Yeah, he's got, he's got a few.

It must not be a very good line. I'm just laughing because Craig sent a picture of this, or Hyphen sent a picture of this guy. He looks like Hamish from Braveheart, if you're familiar with the movie. He looks like Torment from Game of Thrones. He's got the same hair color. So yeah,

I know we're just doing interior guys right now. There's a couple of other names that I think are good that aren't interior guards, but like that's one I can see where you're like, what in God's name are we doing with this pick? But might happen. Joe Tipman.

Throw in another name, Joe Tipman. Who do you like better, D.K., like John Michael Spitz or Joe Tippman better? Schmitz. I like Timetman. Tipman, I think, is the advantage that he could probably play guard. He's tall.

He's like 6.6. He's 6.6. Yeah. Stop putting tall people in center. He's a 6 foot 6 center? Yeah, he's like Luke Fortner. I think I'm literally just biased because I compared him to Ethan Posich,

and Ethan Posich was a senior. The Hawks draft pick that didn't really work. And so I think I'm just like, I see, I'm like, I'm not falling for this again, even though they're completely, you know, they're different players, obviously. But I don't know, the tall center thing, it just like weird to be out. Could Joe Tipman and Cody Motch have more different hair? Joe Tipman's hair is kind of incredible. Joe Timman looks like he's like, what, 33?

We love it into your offensive linemen. It looks like they're just ready to right now, just pull a couple kids out of the minivans, send him to soccer practice, just build something. We love that. Joe Tipman from Wisconsin, by the way, and Cody Mock is from North Dakota State. Joe Tipman, being a redshirt junior, is pretty mind-blowing. He does, in fact, 33 years.

I like him a lot. And by the way, there's not very many centers that come out early, right? Like, underclassmen, speaking of the conversation we had earlier, like, it's very rare to see an underclassman center come out in the draft. So. Because he's great. He came out for him early pick. more names for you.

Antonio Johnson's a safety out of Texas A&M. Oh, I like that one. The safety class doesn't exist. He is the second best one. He is maybe the 65th best player in the class, but there's no other safeties. And Branch can't play high, right? Branch can be a single high player,

at least in my opinion. I agree. I can see Antonio Johnson being like a who in God's name went first round, but he's a potential player there. Jack Campbell, linebacker out of Iowa. Big fella. All right, just a good old-fashioned corn-fed linebacker out of the University of Iowa. Really good between the tackles.

Not as good in other places. Not the sort of guy that I would take. When the play is behind him, the passing game, you may have heard of it. But he's a guy who's recently gotten like Steam to a round one player, made into DJ's top 50. He's like him versus Drew Sanders. Like who goes earlier? Like Drew Sanders is like minus 150.

And then 10 minutes plus like 125, 135 or whatever. So like implication is that like Campbell has the actual chance to go before Sanders and be the first linebacker off the board. So he's the eye I think is a good, a good candidate in that regard. Emmanuel Forbes corner out of Mississippi State. Yeah, he was on my list. Yeah. Not really like a Nuga school.

Like Mississippi State and I feel like people know his name. but like he rated at 166 at the combine. This is flat Andy. Yeah, he's just, he's the two-dimensional player we were discussing earlier. He's like turns, he can't see him. How is a two-dimensional player

going to go in the first round? Right. Because he's a great question. Pick sixes, baby. Wait, did you say flat Andy? Did I, did they say right? What is it? Flat Stanley?

Flat Stanley. This is like the 500 conversation. We call him flat Stanley on the east coast. And the west coast, they call him flat Andy. No, I don't even. I just made that up. I don't know what that is.

You're familiar with two-dimensional Andrew. And then if you... Stanley. Yeah. If you made me put all my marbles... Oh, Adi Tommy Wah, Eddibawaray, Edge slash D with the tackle out of Northwestern. Oh, yeah. For sure. Incredible tester.

I feel like a lot of people know his name. If you made me put all my chips on one guy who's like a general, like, who? They goes round one. Anton Harrison, the offensive tackle at Oklahoma would be my pay. I think that the first four tackles, go off the board fast. There's a locks that Hyphitz brought up. Parrish Johnson, Peter Skoronsky,

Darnell Wright, the Broder Jones. Tackle 5, I think a lot of people think as Dewan Jones out of Ohio State. My impression is that the league's tackle 5 is Anton Harrison out of Oklahoma. There's another guy, he came out young. He didn't have to declare.

He did declare. People were kind of late to his film. Really solid film. And it is not a deep tackle class. It's really thin after the top. I think you can see Anton Harrison not just go in the first round, but be like like 21.

and by, holy smokes, where this guy come from? Yeah, yeah. Watch his home. He can't remember exactly where I saw this, but it was like one of those anonymous scout things where you interview anonymous scouts. Oh, I think it was actually Charles McDonald, maybe. And he talked to a bunch of scouts and, you know,

personnel people at the combine. And several of them had Anton Harrison as like tackle one. Or at least like a first round tackle, I think it was. And I was like, that was like very shocking to me. But yes, it was a matter of just like he's just not. getting any height, but he tested well. He has like all the traits, elite traits. He's 21 years old.

And the NFL is going to love that. One thing I was going to say about Jack Campbell, I think Daniel Jeremiah has been noting this. He's like connecting the dots, but he's been training with Luke Keekly, who's tight with Brandon Bean and the bills have a need at linebacker. So like the, this is the dot connecting is like the bills taking Jack Campbell in the first round. That's too rich for me, but like it's possible. And plus he tested really well.

Like, if you look at his relative athletic score, it's like off the charts good. Yeah, and if you're like to play football. He doesn't play like that, to be clear. I'd rather have Trent Simpson, by the way, from Clemson. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. There's enough, I think, there to think he could sneak into the first round. I tell you, man, I said on this podcast, though, if Jack Campbell goes around one, I'm going to eat my hat.

I really like this hat. I'm wearing my trash panda's hat. I would not like to eat this hat. I'm beseeching NFL teams to make good decisions. Speaking of hats, I have. to check it out, the Rocket City trash pandas, the Mondi League Baseball team, who we shouted out in a two jargings of the lie.

And they have since sent us hats. And Craig, I don't know why. You just didn't ask for it, Craig. D.K. Soak and I are all wearing our trash pandas hats right now. Yeah, I forgot. You guys are all trashed pandas and I'm just trash. Yeah, you chose to wear an A's hat, which is like a wild decision, honestly. I mean, the trash panthers are

better than the A's, I think. I mean, when it was a lot of the A's, He's through a no-hitter. That's right. Yeah. I forgot to reach out about the trash panda's hat. I should do that. I really want one.

It's a great hat. Great logo. Shout out the Rocket City Trash Pandas. How many people would you bring? And how many people are you allowed to bring with you? Does anyone know that? Kenny Pickett. Remember him last year as he was falling?

There was the shot of his girlfriend pissed that he was falling. Like, what is the rule? Can you just bring as many people as you want? I always figured it was like they had a table of like eight and it was something like that. I don't know. I don't think he can bring as many people as you want. Remember, some people will go, will elect not to take the invitation and they'll stay home and then they'll put live stream cameras in their living rooms and then they'll like get as many people over as they want. That's how we famously got the wonderful, wonderful moment of CD Lamb's girlfriend, I believe.

Oh, the phone. Yeah. Picking up his phone and CD Lamb immediately taking the phone away, right? Brutal. A lot of people in the room. We also got a wonderful. moment last year green rooms, excuse me, two years ago, Jalen Waddle, hanging out in his green room, looking great, suited up. Name is called sixth overall pick Miami Dolphins. His family starts going bananas. His expression does not change. He stands up and just walks out to head to the stage. He does not say a word or look at anybody. I would invite, you got to find this. If you Google Jalen Waddle Green Room, I'm sure you can find it. I would invite everybody so that I could look as cold as Jalen Waddle day just being like business as usual.

I'm the sixth overall pick, baby. And just leaving. What did, did Devante Smith go to the green room? Yeah. I think so, yes. Yeah, because there's pictures of him holding his jersey after he gets,

he gets selected. He had like, he wasn't he wearing like a nice thin, like red suit or something? Wasn't like a bargaining suit? Of course it was thin, Craig. An expertly tailored, capered suit. Devonte Smith,

he wears double-breasted suits. He's the only person you can pull off wearing a double-breasted suit and not looking wide. because he's Duvante Smith. He's unbelievably classy. I love it. I want to know the cut like the dimensions of his jacket

because he has like otherworldly long arms and like a teeny tiny little chest. He's probably like a 38 extra long. We never made Joey Porter Jr. and all those guys the pockets where they could go on their knees. DeVontez Smith probably needs that. We got to get to Kansas City,

get to the red carpet and just Joy Porter Jr. Can we get your measurements? I look inside of your suit and see what size it is. Is your tailor with you? Yeah, at the combine, I want suit measurements as well added to the list of events.

I'd love that. Let's get a tailor there. I want to see what you guys are working. That'd be a good bit. Oh, we forgot to, this is stupid. We forgot to mention collage of Cancy. No. Speaking of weirdly tailored suits

with the short-runners and whatnot. He's another guy to add to list. I'm just making sure we cover all our bases. Luke Musgrave, maybe, first runner. Yeah. All right. I looked at Kansi, and it made me sad. And so I kept going.

Two jargons and a lie. Yeah. America's favorite game. I don't think we did this one before. Pennsylvania towns. Oh, Jesus. Oh, easy dot. Solak can't do it.

So like I couldn't lose if I tried. With that said, there's like 10,000 towns in Central Pennsylvania that have the dumbest names ever. Can we just do towns north of Seattle and northwest Washington? No, Solac's not allowed. I don't think we did this one before. Blueball? No, I thought we did do this.

Oh, we did do this. Wow. Oh, my God. Keep going. Keep going. Oh, man. Intercourse. Bird in hand.

Intercourse would be the best name for a town. Can you imagine? I think that's say that all the time. Where are you from? Intercourse. Intercourse is the fake one. But I really wanted to be real. Blue ball intercourse and bird in hand.

I think blue ball is real because if somebody was going to fake it, they would say blue balls next to intercourse. You know, they wouldn't have stopped at blue ball. They would add a beautiful. course. Sorry, what was the last one? My mind's still thinking about blue ball and intercourse. What's the third one?

Bird in hand. Bird in hand. I think intercourse is fake. Wow. You're both so wrong. How dare you disbelieve in intercourse? Intercourse is a real, wonderful little area outside of Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which is also where bird in hand is because boo ball is fake.

Blue ball. Intercourse is the best name for a city. I fucking love that place. Yes. I can't move there. intercourse, which is in Leekock County. Stop it. Jesus.

Stop it. I think so. I think it's Lecoq County. Oh, my God. Do you think there's like an actual measurable impact on like property values if it's like your address is intercourse? I mean, there's like five people in intercourse. So I don't think so.

I mean, that's more than you think sometimes. Five people in intercourse. Yeah, five people in intercourse. What is this? A key party? I know what that is. my God, there's a best lesson. I understood that reference.

Yeah. This is incredible. All right. Let's get out of here before something bad happens. All right. Email us at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. If you have questions for us about, you know, town's the dinner course.

Questions about the draft, whatever. Email us for your fantasy football at Gmail.com. Check out Deky's draft guide, NFLdraft.draft.orgia.com. We've got Dek's big board mock drafts. Solex quarterback charting. Team needs everything. DK, when is, when's metal draft going up? The week of the draft.

I don't know exactly. Nice. Yeah. This week, I've got big video scouting reports on Ringer YouTube for all of the top four quarterbacks for the play sheet. Oh, hell yeah. And next week, DK's got metal draft going up, which is my yearly favorite piece of video content. I watched the trailer yesterday. I'm so excited.

The trailer. It's like a Marvel movie. Now we trailer events. All right. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Slug. Thank you, Craig. Thank you for Austin for production. I'll.

Thank you, Khy, for producing this episode. Thank you, Lorne. Lauren. Thank you, Hans Zimmer. Whoa. Do do do Do you That was time for inception

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The Dutt da da da That one in the pit Oh my God You guys got that one We're good Dude The dark

The Hans Zimmer It's incredible to like do work like if I write something, I can't have anything with words in it. But like the Hans Zimmer soundtrack, honestly the Pirates of the Caribbean sequels rip as the interstellar one. Oh, the interstellar one is beautiful. It's unbelievable. I have, yeah.

When I run, I run to like epic movie soundtracks. Hans Zimmer is a go-to for that one. Makes you feel very fast. Wow. He performed at Coachella not too long ago, which probably was like one of the most unbelievable experiences you could witness. person. How does he perform? He performed at Coachella. An orchestra performed. Yeah, he brought

an orchestra with him. That's amazing. That's so fucking cool. Yeah. That's sick. Who'd you guys want to see a Coachella? Hans Zimmer. Now. I would definitely see Hans Zimmer or John Williams. That'd be sweet. John Williams. Yeah. Imagine

seeing the, has anyone ever gone to the Star Wars thing? Like, where they just play the, I think it's a London Symphony Orchestra. That would be a fucking bucket list thing. You know, John Williams has been nominated for like 50 Oscars. Is he still with us? He is. Still cranking. Really?

Yeah. Wow. 50 Oscars? 50 Oscars. What else is he done? What are some of the big hits? I don't know how many Oscars people get nominated for. Like, Jaws, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, like everything you can think of.

Close encounters. Home alone. Home alone. Hell yeah. Harry. Harry, even did Harry Potter. Yeah. Even than Harry Potter, which is kind of crazy to think about how iconic that one is too.

And he got nominated this year for the Fableman's. The man is like 92. Wow. He's still pitching gas. Nolan Ryan over here. Sorry to Hans Zimmer. Just got one up by John Williams on his show. Talk to me in 20 years.

Hans. All right. Goodbye, everyone.