The Ringer NFL Show - Falcons Bully Bills, Caleb-Jayden Round 2, Power Ranking Teams With Worst Vibes, and Fantasy Court

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

The guys react to the Falcons' dominant win over the Bills, the Bears' comeback victory over the Commanders, and more from the ‘Monday Night Football’ doubleheader. Next, they power rank the teams with the worst vibes around the league and decide which teams can save their seasons and which ones are doomed. Later, Fantasy Court and emails! (0:00) Intro (1:00) Bills-Falcons (13:13) Bears-Commanders (27:03) New York Jets (29:58) Miami Dolphins (35:16) Tennessee Titans (37:43) Cleveland Browns (42:19) Arizona Cardinals (45:14) Baltimore Ravens (48:28) San Francisco 49ers (50:49) Las Vegas Raiders (53:22) Philadelphia Eagles (56:58) New Orleans Saints (59:11) Cincinnati Bengals (01:02:10) The Ringer Fantasy Football League (01:05:06) Fantasy Court (01:13:15) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here!  Email us! [e-mail] This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Huyveson. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horleck. And today it is Power Hour, where we power rank something every Wednesday. And today we are power ranking the bad vibes, the teams with the absolute worst, most atrocious vibes imaginable. We are power ranking. DK, you're the vibes king. These poor teams, I feel bad for them and they're fans.

We're going to go through and we're actually all submitted our rankings and we rank the teams with the worst vibes. And we're going to just go through them one by one power our style. But first, we're going to hit the Monday at football games. There were two Monday at football games. We didn't get to hit it on the episode that came out Monday night, Tuesday, Monday overnight, whatever you want to call it. So there were two Monday at football games. I want to start with Falcons Bills.

Falcons won 2414. As you predicted, Hyphins. Well, I said the Falcons defense was just so hard to, so insurmountable. I cited how they were number one in DVOA on defense. D.K. really pushed back saying, how could the Falcons possibly be that good on defense? D.K. just was really. remember that or DK.

What do you have to save yourself? Yeah, what do you think? I feel like people that didn't listen that episode are going to think

you guys are being serious. Hyfitz pooed me very, very sternly when I suggested that the Falcons defense is good

based on empirical data. He's like, no, I just watched them lose 30 to nothing to the Panthers. I think the biggest thing we learned

from that game is the Panthers are maybe kind of good. I don't know because the Falcons looked awesome in this game.

On both sides of ball. They obviously jumped out to a big lead early on. They could have been even bigger lead. Craig, I wanted to get your take on this actually because that Drake London

play was obviously pretty pivotal. I rewatched it this morning. He should have got it in. I think he fucked it up. Well, I mean, he was trying. What do you mean? He stepped out like six inches before the I think he blew it. He had like, he should have scored there. This is the, I don't think I was upset when I rewatched it. I thought it was cool. Like their intention was clearly like to try to get closer to a field goal and then he broke free and was like, fuck it, I'm just going to go for it. Which I really respect. And I mean, if you're in that situation and you're Drake London, like, you're going for it. So yeah, I don't have any problem with him going for it.

I just think the fact that he stepped out, stepped out was like a huge blunder. He should have been in. What are you talking about it? He was trying really hard. No, no. I think he messed up. That's my point. I think it was a huge error.

I mean, I don't know. I don't know. The way D.K. is talking about this reminds me of like what I I watched the Olympics and the gymnasts like triple little on the landing and they move one. I'm like, oh, didn't stick it. I don't know. I can't believe you to do that. I'm being a stickler clearly, obviously.

Stern. If you watch, if you rewatch to play, I'm like, there's no way he didn't get it. I can't believe he didn't get in there. I thought he got into it. He absolutely should have gotten in. Yeah. So, I mean, so Drake London in this game, Drake landed at 10 catches, 158 yards in a touchdown. As Deke said, really failed not having two touchdowns.

Well, and he had nine for 147 at halftime. I mean, he looked great. one catch in the second half. Yes. This game, the score suggests this game was closer than it is. I mean,

there was a while there where it was ugly where it was 2114 and they just kept punting to each other. But like you said, DK, they should have scored

on that play or at the very least gotten a field goal. There was another possession where they probably should have gotten a field goal. This game was more out of hand

and more lopsided than the box score suggested. Like the bills and Josh Allen couldn't do anything. The Falcons blitzed the shit out of the bills and it worked.

Oh my gosh, yeah. And then Atlanta's offense, I mean, move the ball at will. Like, it was to pass it to the Italians' offense of Bijan Robinson and Drake London over and over and over. And I just love the way Atlanta uses Bejohn. It's awesome. It's like a true funnel offense.

The pistol is super weird. But recently, Jordan Rodriguez and Greg Rosenthal were talking about this in NFL Daily. But, like, they do that basically as a way to get Bejohn more vision. They, like, treat him almost like a quarterback where it's like shotgun for a running back. He's like running downhill, right? Yeah, he's running downhill. And he can see the second level better. And Bejohn has a little bit of levy on bail to his game

For how explosive he is, he's quite patient as well And he kind of like skates back and forth And so this pistol kind of gives him More room for vision to kind of see where things are going And then make these incredible cuts. I mean, he's clearly the best running back in the league And they're always getting him the ball in space He uses a receiver as well.

I just think it's awesome how they use him. Bejohn's amazing. I mean, that clip went viral earliest season of Sequin saying that Seekwon saying Bejon is easily the best guy in the league at making people miss. I think even Seekwon is someone that guilty at times is probably bouncing stuff outside a lot.

What I love about Bijan, he's always trying to get north-south. Like Bijan is always in the coolest way possible getting up field. Sometimes cool players are kind of just bouncing it. Bijan mixes being really cool with always gaining yardage, which I love. So Bijan at 19 carries 170 rushing yards touchdown.

He also had six catches for 68 yards. So that rounds out to a neat 25 touches for 238 yards from scrimmage and a touchdown. Josh Kendall at the Athletic. notes that that is one yard shy of the most in the NFL this season. You know, Bejohn, I mean, who can really touch Rico Dattle, the, you know, the real best running back in the NFC in the NIF's south. But Bejohn leads the NFL in yards from scrimmage, even though the Falcons have only played

five games. I, yeah, I think he's probably the best skill player in the NFL overall, too. I think he could say that. I know Pook is having good season, but, I mean, Puka just got hurt. Like, realistically, you're looking at it, like, Bejohn Gibbs, whatever you want to call it, but I think Bijon, sometimes fair or not, you do need a primetime game for everyone to actually agree on something. Sure.

for sure. And I mean, this was that primetime game where I think everyone now could agree that, like, it will probably be going forward just the mainstream opinion, what Craig said, that Bejohn is just firmly the best running back in the league. DK. Yeah. Better win for the Falcons or worse loss for the bills. I think better win for the Falcons because their defense showed up, obviously put

high fits in his place, which was the most important thing. Well, really was you because you're the one who doubted them. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, go back and listen to that Fandle ad. It was D.K. giving it that bet so passionately. I forgot. It's an ad, you're right. Also, I think this was big.

It was big for Pennix. He looked pretty good out there in terms of decisiveness, like finding his receivers, getting rid of the ball quickly. Yeah, and obviously, I'm kind of joking about London. He looked great too. But, you know,

they have just such an exciting team with Bijan London, Penix, and then that defense, which blitzes the crap. I think I saw they blitzed on all but one third down, and they were just like harassing Josh Allen on every place.

So it was very cool to see. I also want to shout out to Jeff Oldbridge, the defensive coordinator for the Falcons, who frankly is probably mostly famous because he's the one whose son, Frank, called Schitter Sanders on draft day. But Jeff. But Jeff Obrich is kind of of that defensive tree that developed under Shanahan. But he came from, he was with the Niners and Robert Salo for a long time. And then when Robert Salo was the Jets coach, Obrich was there.

Well, he was in Atlanta 2020. And then he worked for Robert Salad with the Jets. And then now he's the coordinator for the Falcons. And honestly, the last four years, I don't know if anyone's really been better at stopping Josh than Jeff Lulbridge, it's, you know, he's not perfect. I think he's three and four versus Josh the last like four seasons. But over, I mean, Josh Allen's like 30 games above 500 over everybody else. You know what I mean?

So basically batting 50-50 against Josh. Josh is EPA per play against Jeff Oldbridge between the Jets and Falcons now. The last like six, seven games is a quarter of what it is versus all these other teams. So I think the coordination of Atlanta is good, but also they have talent, even the defensive. Ironically, defensive ends that they drafted this year aren't even necessarily the reason they're getting this pass rush, but it's unquestionably the best pass rush the Falcons have had. And I mean,

a long time. Almost 15 years. But on that note, also Josh Kendall, the athletic noted, Falcons have held their first five opponents under 300 yards for the first time since 1998. So it really is the best Falcons defense we've seen in a long time.

Oh, now you're in on the defense. I said weeks ago, I've said for years that the Atlanta falconing, and the reason they blow these leads is they don't have a pass rush. And I acknowledge that they had a pass rush. My quibble was the number one in DVOA. Which they still are, by the way. Well, now, now, you know, I thought they looked more like a top, you know, two.

Sure, sure. You know, one, you know, no, I was wrong. One other thing I wanted to throw out here, Bichon is averaging 164 scrimmage yards a game, which is 30 more, 35 more, almost, than the next closest guy, which is Christian, McCaffrey. He's on pace for, hold on, I pull it up here. Almost 2,800 scrimmage yards this year.

So he's absolutely going off. Bejan is unbelievable. And so the only hiccup for Atlanta in this, I agree, though, to Craig's point, better win for Atlanta than loss of the bills. We'll get to the bills a second. The only hiccup for Atlanta. Jake Matthews, the left tackle, who has been there forever, has injured his ankle. We'll see what the deal is. But he doesn't miss time. Caleb and Gary, the right tackle got hurt before the season. Kind of got buried because Sean Slater also got hurt. But so Atlanta already had, and they're sorry, their swing tackle, Storm Norton has also been out this year.

So the Atlanta kind of had their storm. I know Storm Norton. It sounds like a Viking god. But the fourth string tackle was playing at right tackle. So now when the left tackle got hurt, it's like the fourth string guy is at right. And now the fifth string guy is at left, which is worth monitoring. But again, Bijon, they're using him so much as a receiver. I'm not worried about Bijon for a fan.

It's like at the end of the day. Like there's Pennicks like Baker, just ripping passes. So Atlanta looks different. cool uniforms cool it's good great uniforms fantastic uniforms throwbacks some of the throwbacks suck but the Atlanta and then after the

Bucks Seucks game a couple weeks ago the right jerseys are coming back I will say about the bills they look terrible Josh looked uncomfortable but I don't know how to start with Buffalo other than this I'm going to just read their injuries because I think you have to read the whole it's shocking

the center Connor McGovern left midgame and then Josh Allen immediately got sacked and hurt his left hand and then tried to hide it which I thought summarized everything. Dalton Kincaid was inactive for the oblique injury. Curtis Samuel has a neck end of rib injury at receiver. Josh Palmer injured his knee. Look like during the game. It was kind of bad.

Defense to tackle, DeKwan Jones heard his calf in pregame warmups. T.J. Sanders, the other defensive tackles already on IR, so as to Wayne Carter, the other defensive tackle. Matt Milano is a peck injury. Terrell Bernard, the linebacker hurt his ankle in this game. Demarnehamlin, the safety also is a peck injury. Cole Bishop was cramping during this game at safety. Maxwell

Hairston and Dorian Strong two rookie cornerbacks basically have barely played combined. Christian Benford, their best cornerback in this game is banged up. In a nutshell, the healthiest Bill's defenders on the team are basically Tredavius White and Joey Bosa, who have been two of the most injured players in the entire league the last five years. Those are their healthiest players. So I guess my question is, D.K., does this mean anything to you about Buffalo as a team? Or are they just hurt?

No, I think it's more of the latter. You know what the real thing that comes to my mind is when you talk about all this is like, holy crap, how did the lions, how were the lions, so good last year all year, despite losing all their guys. Because pretty much every other team you see if they're this injured, this many guys either banged up or on the IR or whatever, like most of the time, almost all the time, you see teams completely crater. You know what I mean? It's the story of every season. It's like usually the healthiest teams go far. Even in fantasy football, it's like if all the guys you drafted never got hurt and never missed the game, you'll probably

making the playoffs. Yeah. It's just how it goes. A hundred percent. It's honestly, fantasy is is also kind of like that what we say but the NFL. In NFL, we always say there's like eight teams truly trying to make it. And generally that the teams that win, the teams that make it are like the two are the healthiest eight. And fantasy is kind of like that too where there's probably four teams that really probably maybe drafted

quote unquote, right? And then the healthiest one might win, but also obviously there's a fuck done a luck in fantasy. But the yeah, overall, I thought I was really impressed with Atlanta. I will totally, I'll eat crumb. I know there are a lot of Falcons fans listed the show because I know because they emailed a lot of thoughts when I was talking about where the Falcons

ranked between them and Georgia. They didn't even necessarily disagree. But the Falcons look good. And Pennix is fun. And overall, they look like a team that has invest. And I will say this again, the Falcons have invested more in their offense than any team in the NFL. It's not close because they have eight homegrown first round picks, $40 million backup

quarterback we don't talk about even with Kirk Cousins. I forgot about him. And they have four top ten picks on the offense. And they have three first run picks in the offensive line. Like, they should be great. And they finally look like a team. has invested the most of any team in the offense. And it looks awesome.

I'm happy for them. I'm happy for Atlanta. I root for them. I don't know why. This team, I don't know if it's the collapse in the Super Bowl or what, but I like Rahim Morris. I like the players on Atlanta. I just like want them to be successful. They're all individually other than Kyle Pitts, cool stories. Right?

You see Kyle Pitts last night blocking his ass off? Oh, yeah. Yes, actually. There were a lot of actually sneaky good blocking, a lot of blocking that caught my eye this week on players downfield guys that I thought. But yeah, so the bills, I mean, we talk about the bills all the time. I think the Falcons get their due credit. The other game I want to hit her, Bears Commanders, obviously this was, you know, one of those

games guys pretend doesn't mean anything, but obviously means a ton because the Bears Hail Mary last year that they gave up to Washington. Tyree Stevenson was talking shit, gave up the Hail Mary. They lost 10-strike games. Everything blew up. So the Bears come back. Caleb Williams from Washington, thought he'd go to Washington. There's a whole, there's a lot of motions.

It's like Caleb versus Jaden too. Yeah, it's number one pick versus number two. So the Bears go up 13 points, raining, ugly game. Washington comes back, takes a one point lead. Bucker factor. Fourth quarter, it was pretty crazy. Washington blocks a Chicago field goal. So bears are still down one.

And then Jaden leads a touchdown drive. So Washington's up eight. And then bad vibes, okay. So then Caleb gets a touchdown, but then misses the two points. So the bears are still down two. And bears get the ball back, but they go three and out. Looks like Washington get. the game and then Jaden Daniels fumbles the handoff and the ball's wet and everything

it's raining. But Jaden fumbles the handoff to Bill Merritt here. And then Jake Moody, of all people, Jake Moody, who Kyle Shannon just caught, I think after week one for the Niners and hits a walkoff 38 yarders, time expires. D.K., what did you make of Bears, Washington? What was your take? I'll steal Craig's question. Better win for the Bears or worse for Washington?

I hate that. It's obviously the Bears. Yeah, I was going to say, I think it's a better win for the Bears. obviously this gives them confidence it gets them you know whatever off of the whatever that bad juju was from the last year's game where they lost on that hill mary um i thought it's not like i thought you know caleb williams played exceptionally well in this game he definitely made some nice throws he made some off throws the guy who like impressed me the most in this game which i was kind of surprised was dandre swift he was running like a madman there's there's always like a game here and there where i'm like jondry swift he's good like you remember that he was a high second rounder. And then most of the rest of the time, it's not, not kind of quite that impressive. But, you know, I thought he looked really good. I thought they got him in the right position.

He was like outside runs where he had a little space slasher type running back. They utilized him in the passing game. So I would say DeAndre Swift was like the guy that impressed me. And then also they used Luther Burden a little bit more in this game, which was exciting. We saw a little bit more of Colston Loveland in this game. So I think all in all, to me, this was just a game that, again, you know, one foot in front of the other in terms of the bears starting to turn into a real team.

Because last year, obviously, they were a complete implosion disaster in every way. And this year, they look just more in sync. The offense makes sense. I feel like Caleb knows where he's going with the ball a lot more often and a lot more consistently. He's getting rid of the ball quicker. Overall, it just looks like a more professional operation.

And so that's, like, really positive. Again, I don't think, like, Caleb wouldn't play like amazing but got the job done. They got the W and I think overall they just look better. My takeaway was that I didn't have a lot of takeaways. Yeah. Like my takeaway was like

this was a messy game. Yeah. I think both these teams are kind of like closer to league average. Yeah, Caleb had some good moments, some not great moments. Troy Aikman does not seem to be the biggest fan of Caleb Williams. Ake, no, no. What was he? Because he's like

I was flipping back and forth to audio. was he complaining about like just getting the ball out on time and things like that? Everything. His accuracy, like just there was a lot of thing. I mean, it goes back. Even the first week one, you could tell Troy that Bears Vikings game. It was Caleb McCarthy, the Bears lost. Troy doesn't like Caleb.

You can tell. I don't think he likes to play style. I don't think he like there was one where he took a shot down to Roma Dunezley. I forget when this was in the game. But honestly, if anything, I thought. The first half, he overthrew him. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of like underthrow him.

And Troy was somehow. Oh, no, he under threw him. You're right. Yeah. And it was like double cover. And Troy's like, you should take, it was like second and four, second and two. And he's like, you could have took the first down. And if anything, I would kind of watch the all 22, the zoom out.

And it was like, I actually think he under the room and should have had a Roman dude's a touchdown. For sure. But, you know, I, it's, look, it's, there's a reason we look at last year, just to pull an example with the cheese where they go like 12 and 0 and one score games. And you're like, what if you just flip every one score game or a game I like to play, flip every kick at the end of the game because the players, it's like pencils down. and it's kind of like whether the kicker makes it or not, shouldn't determine how we make sense of the previous 59 minutes and 58 seconds. And I do think if Jake Moody just kind of misses the kick,

we're like same old bears, demons, blah, blah, blah. The takeaways to me that I do think going forward, I do think emotionally it does matter that the Bears won the game for themselves. I actually do think there was something they had to get over with this. Like I do think that matters. But to your point, DK, the running game matters. Like a lot for the Bears.

We'll see if they can make it happen against better defenses than Washington, but it's a cliche for a reason. Like, an efficient running game is essential for a young quarterback to grow, and it's really important. And especially with the way Ben Johnson calls plays and Swift. We always talk about connections through quarterbacks and receivers.

I don't know what forever to have reason. I think Caleb's had a really good sense of how to get DeAndre Swift the ball. Even when things weren't going well for Chicago at times last year, I don't know. Even in the preseason, And I feel like Caleb has just had a weird sense of getting Swift the ball in a way that I never,

I feel like I never make that connection to running backs with the quarterback. But I like, I think Swift looks awesome. And I don't want to, to your point, it's raining. The commanders through pick, fumble, fumble, missed a kick. There was a kick blocked. It's like, I don't want to do too many takeaways. But I do think Caleb clearly has more and more often you're seeing the, there are more things where Caleb's getting the ball out on time and on schedule

and also just looks like a number one pick with the physical talent, even if it's not all the time. Yeah, every once in a while he does something that like three NFL quarterbacks can do. The throw to Luther Burden downfield is pretty impressive. He was like looking left and Burden was going to the right across the field. And Caleb kind of just like stepped up to avoid pressure. And then with his feet facing left, he threw the ball on a line like 30, 40 yards downfield and right to burden. So that was pretty impressive.

Speaking of Burden, I know that's Wednesday and waivers have already. cleared for those listening, but I do want to say that if nobody added Luther Burden, there was a lot of other receivers that you could have added this week. So there's a chance that he's still on the waiver wire. I would maybe think about grabbing him if you have the space. DJ Moore was really hurt the whole game. It was super tough. Managed to play the entire game.

Was out there until the very end, but it was going in and out, looked like he was in a lot of pain. And then he went to the hospital, spent the night in the hospital. And then the Bears reported that it was a groin injury, which is weird to spend the night in the hospital for a groin injury. people were speculating that he like had a lesion in his ball sack or like that's like the only way that you could have had you could Was that like a hospital for a groin injury? Are you reporting that?

You want to report that here on the show? I'm saying I'm saying people were speculating on Twitter that he tore his nut sack. Well, I saw Craig not to like quibble or whatever. I saw people referencing testicular torsion. Testicular torsion. Which is where the which is where the cord twists up in the sack. Yeah. There you go.

Blood float. Didn't that happen in Mariners' third baseman? This is one of those things that's like you can't even sit still when you're hearing about us. So that's why he had to go to hospitals because you like have the chance of losing your quality. I actually, oh, I'm going to shout out my friend. You can die from that? Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to tell us to her.

I'm not going to name this guy, but he won't care. He's also in the military. So there's like no chance he's going to be able to hear the show. But I had a friend who will not be named that basically woke up one morning. And I forget what activity he was doing. but he's like, you know, he's in the Marines. So there's a lot of physical activity going on. And he wakes up one morning and his, you know, his scrotum is massive.

It's like a grapefruit. And he's like, oh, he's going to a wedding or something. And he's like, I need to go to the ER. And he sits there and he's trying to explain to them that this is a problem. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I forget the exact. But he's there for like hours. And they're basically like, yeah, if you don't get emergency surgery, you can just kind of,

you might just lose it. You might just have to cut it off so you don't die. And he was like, are you serious? And they're like, yeah, if it doesn't fix itself in like two, three hours, we might have to have a conversation about, you know, like cutting him off? Yes. And then it did at the 11th hour just come undone. It just untied.

It's like how they neutered cows. Remember I told you that he's like rubber band situation? I actually had like, I had a small version of this as a kid. what happened, testicular torsum. This happened to me. Probably didn't feel great. It was like pretty mellow, but yeah, it was just like painful. And then it kind of just went away.

But it was a very mild version. Like there was no, you couldn't tell physically. But I could just, it was in, I was in pain as a kid. Like riding a bike, I remember it like really hurt. Oh, the doctor. We have to move on. I'm like going to. So anyway, Luther Burton because DJ Moore's nuts hurt.

Ah. It should put in parentheses, DJ Moore, parentheses, balls. Yeah. Well, yeah, allegedly. Testes. Per the, per, you know. But dude, if he played an NFL game with testicular torsion, stud. Back in.

I'm back in. I'm back in on. You should get a multiplying effect. Every catch is worth five if you have to stick in torsion. Yeah. Okay, so, wow, I missed that one. I knew he was hurt. Honestly, I actually think guys get hit the balls and leave way more.

And, like, way more injuries are actually just getting it. After going to the hurling match and see how many guys were, keeling over just because they got in the balls. I think way more injuries are just getting hit the balls. I mean, and those poor guys, no padding. No, that was tough. Okay. Anything else from Bundanette football before we move on here?

No, tough, tough look for Ringer 107 for us. We took that Bill's L. Yeah, DK, what was with pushing the bills? I know, DK. You know, we would have been tied for first place. Stop trying to change history. It was High Fitz. High Fitz felt very strongly.

I think what I can't remember. I feel like it was DK at first and then Hyphids. I'm taking advantage of the fact that even the people who listen to the show a lot and love this show. I feel like half the time no one knows his voices on a podcast as who. To spread misinformation. Hifitz was way overconfident, which probably should have made us bet the opposite direction.

It was a consistent. That's right. Hifitz said it, and Hifitz is the guy that lives in Bellingham with a kid, right? Exactly. I don't like this. I don't like it at all. The Ringer Fantasy Football Show is brought to you by Fandle. The Vandal Sportsbook app is your home for all your favorite NFL bets from yards to

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The worst vibes is the world. There's some bad vibes, man. Some bad vibes out there. It's actually kind of hard to rank. Also, there are some teams in this list who have a winning record and made the top 10 worst vibes. Yeah, but I think we're right. So you guys sent me your bad vibes,

ranked the top 10 or bottom 10 vibes, I guess, and then it just kind of averaged them. So this is the average of our rankings. If you don't like the order, then you can blame all of us equally. And also, we're going to do this power hour style. So every two minutes, you're going to hear this sound. They can let us use that on Netflix?

We'll see. I was going to ask you. I was going to ask you. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. All right. So without further ado, power ranking, the worst vibes in all the National Football League this season after six weeks.

The National Football League. I know, I dropped that. I love that sometimes. It hits so hard. What was the last time I said National Football League? The Cincinnati Bengals are the worst team in the National Football League. It's like when Craig said, Craig called D.K. Daniel the other day. And I was like, whoa.

Sometimes you have to start hard or sharp on a serious note. That'll also be a Netflix thing. We'll have to start saying National Football League, you know? So it makes sound like we know what we're talking about. Okay, number one, worst vibes, the entire NFL. This may come as no surprise to you all. We all put this as number one, I think? I had him second.

You guys had this team. Not unanimous. Okay. Well, I feel pretty strongly the New York Jets have the most horrific vibes in all of the land. All of the land. The only winless team, for starters, They're coming off a game where they had negative 10 yards passing, which is something you almost never hear about.

They lost to a guy who had 60 yards passing. They have the NFL worst negative 7 turnover margin. They're 30th in offensive DVA, which probably shouldn't be a surprise. But they're also 25th in defensive DVOA. So they're bad on defense, which is supposed to be sort of like their foundation, the reason that they can kind of,

the thing that will prop them up and they can figure things out on offense. They're bad everywhere. in addition to that, I had a question more for you guys. Who's the leader of this team? Like as a player? Or coach. I mean,

I guess obviously Aaron Glenn is the leader of the team. But outside of him, I can't figure out who people are supposed to look to for inspiration and getting out of this slump that they're in. Like Justin Fields is not that guy. Garrett was not that guy. Probably Alan Lazzard. I actually think Garrett

Wilson is in a way the receiver in the whole league, whose most angry aligns with whether the team is winning or losing, not necessarily when he gets the ball, but whether he doesn't get the ball because something stupid they did. It's always, he, Gary Wilson cares about winning. And I mean,

the coaching, my only reason I didn't put them first is I was like, I guess because Aaron Glenn's the first year at coach, he's not getting fired. I get that. And so I'm like, oh, but also they're used to it.

Yeah, and they're used to it. I, that too. But no, look, I'm not going to argue the point. It is hard.

Aaron Glenn's a great guy and everyone likes him. The coaching decisions have been borderline, like not unforgivable, but they've been crazy bad. And just the plan that seemed like a bad plan has been a horrible plan. Justin Fields, as your only start without competition, has been horrible.

Yeah. And I could go on and on. The only reason why you could argue they're not number one is because this is so new and you could perhaps convince yourself to give Garen Glenn a little bit of time. The problem is there's no hope because I

will not no hope, but the rushing, I think what they were hoping to establish was a physical running game, identity with the offensive line, and I don't see that. It's so crazy how they should have probably beaten the Steelers in week one. They looked so good.

They looked incredible. Since that game, since that game, I was some of those stats on Friday. Since that week one game, if you just lop that off, because week one shit happens all the time. Since week one, the Jets are last in every offensive category. I'm talking below the Titans. But the team I put number one, you guys, I think both had them two or third, I think. But they've netted out to number two.

Worst vibes. I have the worst vibes of the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. I have a one in five third place in the AAC East, which is so funny because the Jets are actually enlast. But to me, it's really simple. The vibes, Aaron Glenn just got hired. Mike McDaniel is on his last legs and the quarterback is calling out players. in public or him's like everyone's mad.

People are mad at the starting quarterback. People are met at the coach. The dolphins are a better team. They're closer to winning. They beat the Jets, which doesn't say anything. But the vibes I do think are worse because the expectations for the dolphins

were just better. And it's been horrific. And I think Tua's comments just completely split the locker room. And there are the team, they're to me the closest to the breaking point of something's going to have to change. There has been no more bad press

around the league than with the dolphins since the off season. I mean, since Tyreek said he didn't want to be here anymore at the end of last season, it's been just kind of consistently horrible vibes all the way through the season. The fact that Tyreek was like cheering and fist pumping and everything when he got hurt. Makes a little bit more sense. He's just like, thank God. You think he was happy?

He's thrilled. I don't have to be on his team anymore. It's finally over. I understand Carlos, who produces the show, is probably mad because he's, he would probably be like, well, they only lost by two to the Chargers, and they should have won, and they only lost by three to the Panthers. Like, they're close. I think he'll be mad at him first.

100%. The thing, we're letting them off too easy. There's a lot of scheme stuff we could go into. Obviously, people don't need us to tell that Mike McDaniel's offense has been stale for three years. They don't need us to tell them that the offense is probably the worst defense of the NFL and the worst coverage is horrible. The run defense is horrific. But there's also just a leadership problem.

And in a nutshell, they lost this off season. And we talked about this a little bit. I think the most underrated thing in football is captains. Like, that's a stat. People vote on it. The dolphins lost the season, off season. Jalen Ramsey, quarterback, Javan Holland at safety, Calais Campbell, D-Line, Christian Wilkins, a defensive tackle.

All of those guys are captains. And I'm going to disrespect Tom Tom. They lost four captains. And so, you know who the only captain left was? Tua. And so Tua's out here talking about leadership. Whether he's trying to throw himself under the bus or whether he was trying to point out people about being late,

Mike McDaniel had to come out today or yesterday and admonished Tua for what he said at the podium. Like Mike McDaniel, like the leadership burden fell on Tua and Tua's failed. And I know I'm kind of ranting here, but I want to point out, Mike McDaniel said, I think regardless of intent and what was unto his mind, after a loss, as the franchise quarterback, that's not the forum to displace that. I think Tua knows that now. I honestly believe there was no ill intention, but you're talking about a misguided representation of player orchestrated film sessions.

Heavy is the crown. This is still Mike McDaniel. Heavy is the crown of being a franchise quarterback. What I do know is that Tua is directly communicated with a lot of guys, starting with last night. That's what teammates do. You live and you learn. You live and learn.

End quote, it's two is six season in the NFL. He's also not good. That's Craig, that's the problem. This is the big problem. It's hard to be a leader when you're not very good. It's hard to call people out when you're playing like shit.

Yeah, you can't, like actually, I think Tua is a little bit oblivious. That's the problem. Yes. He should be aware that this is not going to look good. It's just all bad mix.

Also, Mike McDaniel's not the best style of coach. He's not the best personality for a team that's losing. It just like it doesn't translate well his press conference style when they're getting destroyed. It just rubs people the wrong way. The big picture argument for being a disciplinarian-based coach is that if you start with a tight leash, it's much easier to let it go than to start with Mike McDaniel vibes, you know, like the vibe of the guy. who's dad's on the company and the dad's on vacation. Like once you're there, you can't actually rain people in. That's actually pretty difficult.

You know the line in Top Gun, which I've never heard anyone actually say this in real life, only referencing Top Gun, but to his mouth is writing checks his body can't cash. He just needs to stop saying stuff. I was like, even in the off season when he was talking about, remember how he was like, Tyrook, he's got to come back and, you know, apologize. What was it exactly? He said he's like, prove himself to us. Right, like prove himself to his teammates and stuff.

I'm just like, dude, just say that to him. You don't have to tell us to press that. Like have some like awareness. Well, you know what's funny too? And I was thinking about this because Tua was saying before this game, too, he said, I'm not on social media. I don't worry about that stuff. And I'm like, you know what?

Maybe you should get on social media, man. Maybe you need to be. He's too offline. You know who's on social media? Like a homeschooled kid. It is. You know, it was on TV on social media. All your teammates are you see social media constantly.

Yeah, he's like a homeschool. You need to learn, like, social cues. Stop touching grass. Touch a screen. Oh, my God. Get online to it. Plus you a little bit here, yeah. It's probably doctor's orders, unfortunately, to not look at the screens.

But unfortunately, that's probably a low blow. That's probably true, though. It was. Well, yeah, we can move on. But I think they're the worst vibes in part because. Terrible vibes. Yeah, it's, people hate the quarterback and the coach is getting fired. All right.

Number three for bad vibes here. This is no shock, but we have, D.K., I think you have. him highest, but I think we all kind of thought they were third. But the Tennessee Titans. Our expectations were low, but holy fuck. Yeah. The Titans.

That's the story of the Titans season. Coming off of a three-win season, the first overall pick, they are somehow even worse this year than they were last year. They took a quarterback with a top pick of the draft. They revamped their offensive line. They have one of the best. They hired a good offensive line coach. They are dead last. Well, it's his father, but yeah.

Well, they brought his dad in. I think it's interesting because, you know, obviously Bill, or Bill Callahan left because his son, Brian Callahan was fired. So now they're out to their coaches. And I would say generally tape analysts are having some positive thoughts on what Cam Ward has done. But if you look at what Cam Ward's numbers are, it's very concerning what he's doing right now. He has three touchdown passes on the year tied for dead last with Russell Wilson and Dylan

Gabriel. His completion rate's dead last. He has a 67 pass rating, which is almost dead last. Only Joe Flacco is worse. And Joe Flacco, well, you know, he's like 40. EPA for dropback, only Flacco and Browning are worse. 36% success rate. Only Flacco and Dylan Gabriel worse. He has one of the highest off target rates. He has one of the lowest explosive pass rates. I mean, there's not a lot to be excited about. I guess obviously there's moments on tape where he looks good, but. I think it's because he's in Tennessee with just flying under the radar, but he's been horrific as the first overall pick. He slid under the radar when he was the number one pick and he's not doing well. But overall, I still think it can't be said enough. The Titans fired Brian Callahan

because they were afraid of their former coach, Mike Vramel, beating the piss out of Brian Callahan and the Titans. They were literally so afraid of having to fire him after the game that they preemptively fired him because they're afraid of Mike Vrable beating him. The only reason why the Titans aren't first on this list is because there is still a glimmer. of hope that four years from now,

Cam Ward is a good productive quarterback in the NFL. That's still possible, and there are moments that you get excited about. Unlike Miami, it's kind of the guy. I think people know what the Tua is, and the Jets and Justin Fields, it's like, you know, obviously such a stop gap. So that's the only reason why I think they don't deserve to be number one is because maybe Cam Ward will work out.

Totally agree. Number four here on the list of teams with the absolute worst vibes this season. We have the Cleveland Browns. Just kind of a formality, I feel like. I just kind of always throw them in. Just, you know, always top five. If anything you could argue, it's kind of, we probably should just give them out of respect.

They're the number one spot. It's like my homes and the chiefs. It's like, they've accomplished so much. They have the belt. Yeah, they have the belt. Yeah, they have the belt. It's like, did anyone really come and take the belt from the Browns? You know, it's, yeah, the Browns are one and five.

They're tied for last place. I mean, Dylan Gabriel's out here looking fine because he doesn't, he isn't actively embarrassing the Browns on like every play. And that's like the bar, basically in what it's been. but I decided that Browns couldn't be, they had to be fourth and maybe they should be higher, but I kind of just think their fans are dead inside and I feel like high almost is insulting

and that it implies they had expectations, which is not fair. Yeah, I mean, they just traded a quarterback to a division rival. So I have to read what Mike Tomlin said this week. Mike Tomlin, it's funny hearing him talk about it, you watch the video and you realize how infrequently you hear coaches talk about other teams,

I know, I know. Only when I saw Tomlin saying this, I'm like, you never see this. And Tomlin was asked about the Joe Flacco trade. And he actually talked about it. And Tomlin gave, he said, to be honest, it was shocking to me. The Brown's general manager, Andrew Barry, must be a lot smarter than me or us. Because it doesn't make sense to me to trade a quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter. Trade him to a division opponent that's hurting in that quarterback area.

But that's just my personal feelings. And when I watch... Calling someone, saying someone must be a lot smarter than me. It's such a great dig. It's so good. It's like so mean. It must be a lot smarter than me because this doesn't make any fucking sense to be at all. Tom is the best.

D.K's going to do that next time. I'm like, take the bills minus four and a half. DK's like, like, life is must be a lot smarter than me. So my thing that with this is... With all due respect. With all due respect. Yeah. But I think, again, Tomlin,

Patrick Claibon in NFL pointed out, Tomlin's radical opinion was teams should try to win their division, not help other teams win their division. And I was thinking about that and with Tomlin's words, and I was like, can you imagine how players on the Browns feel? And I actually don't think I put enough thought into that when the trade went down. Can you imagine being fucking Miles Garrett?

Do you remember when Miles Garrett was asking for a trade and then was like, we went and talked to the front office, the leadership of the team, and they convinced us in the plan that we had at quarterback, and the plan was Joe Flacco for a few games and then we're trading him to our division opponent. He was just blinded by the $40 million a year.

And then that division opponent immediately had like a way better game. Yeah. I actually don't think I had thought what it did to the vibes. The reason I put them maybe they should be higher is imagine being on the Browns and trying to play through an injury or something and trying to be like, hey, like we can get back in this and they fucking gave the Bengals Joe Flacco. Yeah. For not that much.

What was it like a fifth round or six rounder? They moved up 40 spots. They swapped. It's going to be like the 220th pick for the 190th pick. I mean, like, also. Is that worth it? No. No.

Well, I think part of it because the Browns, the people do that Andrew Barry and especially the money ball guy, Jonah Hill and Moneyball works for the Browns. Like they're literally the moneyball people. They're crushing. Do they make him do the meme every day? Like, yeah. The only problem is he can't do whatever. Just Sean Watson.

Yeah. He's on all these stats. He's like, there's one problem, Jim. Yeah. I really do think the Browns if you you could maybe they are really excited about this pick swap I think the Browns were

what they were thinking in the front office was we're not going to get a very good draft pick this year and it's better for us if the Bengals get a bad one and I do think that was the logic in Cleveland and they just don't care about interdivisional trades they think it's stupid horse yeah and I think that logic while you could argue for it could not square less

with how players feel on old school people like Tomlin or you know the oldest school the oldest two school teams in the league are the Steelers and the Bengals who are like we'll never give up on anything we'd rather die than like think about stuff like that.

But yeah, I think the Browns vibes are pretty bad. You know it's low and it's like, let's give our division rival a quarterback for that. Maybe they have the ninth pick in the first round instead of the fourth.

I actually think that's what they were actually thinking. It's, it is. Anyway, number five bad vibes. This was the first true controversial one. Craig, you were the highest on this team. So number five bad vibes for this season. The Arizona Cardinals, I think the worst place to be is when you give a quarterback a big contract and you know you can't win a Super Bowl with them.

And I think the Dolphins, the Cardinals, for a while I did think the Jags were flirting with that. Maybe that's changed this year. But I think that's the worst place. I think in terms of expectation versus reality, the Cardinals have been one of the of the most disappointing teams in the NFL since they drafted Kyler Murray. They have zero playoff wins with Kyler Murray. They've only played in one. Which is second half collapses.

The Marvin Harrison Jr. thing has not lived up to expectations. The Cardinals have the 27th most wins since Kyler was drafted. And I just think you're just stuck in the middle. I think it's just complete no man's land. And you're in a division with Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan, and Mike McDonald. And I just think, I don't know where you go. This is very, I like this. This is a very convincing argument.

also to add to that Jacoby Preset came in and played pretty well which is just like it's like almost like the coaches in jail are probably like fuck it's just like how many how many off seasons do Cardinals fans need to get excited before getting bludgeon to death

every season and completely disappointed before they have to start up again and convince themselves that this is the Kyler Murray here it never happened. It's a tough combination of what you're saying of the very in the moment thing of the Titans loss and how bad it was with the demarcate, like how basically the probably the most unlikely loss we've ever seen.

Like, in just actual literal plays that happen with Demarcato play and all that. And that very specific random thing that you can kind of get over, but where you're pointing to mixed with this like larger thing of, holy shit, is our offense better with Jacoby? And like, like, the players know that Kyler can't always play on time. And like, Kyler, in a way, it is like Russell. I mean, it's not crazy to compare him to Russell Wilson. Kyle, well, Kyle Murray also could have played baseball.

and it's a shorter quarterback. And as Kyler gets older, with the less the mobility is, suddenly the not being able to play on time and in rhythm because his shorter quarterback is worse. By the way, Kyler, Kyler was the ninth overall pick in the draft. Like, Russell Wilson was like a Make-A-Wish kid

who got to go to, like, Yankees training camp and, like, pal around with people. Like, Kyler was a legit prospect. Kyler was actually going to be the center fielder for the athletics. This is kind of every seventh season in the NFL. seventh. He's, he's,

you know what, I know I've edited this three weeks in a row. Maybe I'll go with this. Kyler is going to be the most talented player I've ever seen that will make almost no mark

on the league. Like, frankly, Kyler's career has, there's been three or four amazing games. Like the Hail Murray, to DeAndre and like to, but overall,

he's kind of just came and went. Hail Murray, yeah. But I don't know. That was five years ago, though. He's just, it's just,

it's just been a weird time. Number six on the list of the most atrocious vibes in the NFL through six weeks. I have the Baltimore Ravens. I think the Ravens should probably be higher than the Cardinals. This is the worst season of Ravens history, probably. Like, it's shit. I think this is a short-term ranking here. I feel like if you're a Ravens fan, obviously it's gone horrible.

But it's basically, I mean, it's basically just Derek Henry and Lamar got hurt, which then ruined the offense for a few weeks. But it's like, couldn't you convince yourself that things might be okay? And this is a division you can win? You could go either way. Because you could argue that literally the Ravens, on one hand, the Ravens have won 35 games the last three years. They were the Super Bowl favorites in the preseason,

and they are one more win than the Jets. Like they have the same record as the Titans who just fired their head coach. Like, that sucks. So on one hand, the Ravens should be higher. To your point, the optimism is very easy. Six and O in the next six games isn't insane because they hit the buy. It's like one in five in the buy. Like it's horrific.

But they have the Bears when they come back. That is a do or die game. They have to beat the Bears. But if they can do that, then it's like at Miami, who again, vibes are atrocious, at the Vikings where it's Carson Wentzer, J.J. McCarthy, at Cleveland with Dylan Gabriel, at the Jets with Justin Fields. Like, these are some of the worst quarterback situations in the whole league coming up. Then you still have two games left versus the Bengals, both probably with Joe Flacco for the Bengals.

And you still have two games left with the Steelers, where the Ravens beat the Steelers by a lot last year. And if the Steelers are winning the division, obviously they're at four wins, the Ravens are at one. But if the Ravens are able to sweep the Steelers, that gets you two-oh on the Steelers up. And all the other games are against horrific quarterback. So if the Ravens are able to get, again, of the top nine guys and snaps for them in defense in week one,

eight of the nine guys have been hurt. And if you get six of the nine back, it's not crazy to your point, Craig, that maybe the Ravens still can win the division. So that's the hope is they could go six and oh. It's funny. I feel like this season could end with some of the best vibes. Like if the Ravens are hot,

they sneak into the playoffs. they've been playing great for the final 10 weeks of the season. I think it comes down to what you said, Hyvitz. I think if the Ravens can sweep the Steelers, they're in. And that's what it'll come down to. Well, it's not that simple, but yes. But I think based on how we expect them to be playing against, like, the Jets and the dolphins and the Browns.

I think it's going to end up working out with the Steelers schedule getting harder where if the Ravens can beat the Steelers twice, I think they are going to be in the playoffs, is my guess. You couldn't do better for a quarterback. You can't ask for an easier quarterback schedule then. Caleb Williams, Carson Wentz, George H. Jim McCarthy, Dylan Gabriel, Justin Fields, Joe Flacco twice.

You won't do. Caleb Williams is by far the best quarterback they're facing. I think the only counterpoint I have to this whole thing. I mean, I don't know if it's a counterpoint, but just in terms of the Ravens having horrific vibes, and maybe this is actually them unraveling versus succumbing to a lot of injuries, or maybe both,

is the accumulation over the years of just playoff collapses when they were like the favorites. And obviously, the last time this team... They have more like champagne problems. Yeah, but also happiness is expectation minus reality. It wouldn't be hard to convince me that Ravens vibes are worse than the Browns because the Browns are dead inside and Ravens fans genuinely thought they'd win the Super Bowl.

Speaking of which, the San Francisco 49ers, the number seven on this list of atrocious vibes. Speaking of teams with his playoff collapses and big expectations and injuries, Niners, I mean, they're four and two. They're tied for first place in the NFC West. Right. So on one hand, how could you put it up? and bad vibes.

And yet, this is the, this is the GTA meme. It's the, ah, shit, here we go again. Like, 2019, they made the Super Bowl, and then 2020 was the nightmare year. And then they made the Super Bowl, and it was a nightmare again in 2024. And it's like, it's just happening again. People, here's how we know that the 49ers vibes are tough.

Is people on Twitter are talking about how they built a stadium on Native American burial. Curst. No, literally. Like, all my friends are Niners fans. My dad is a diehard Niners fan. And he's just like we're cursed. Yeah, we're like, truly.

Yeah. Everyone's hurt. I, he just lost Fred Warren and those horrific. Nick Bose is out all here. I have all the injuries written down here and it takes up like a whole page.

Brock Purdy is the turf toe and the shoulder injury. Mack Jones, the backup quarterback's limping around with a PCL injury. Brandon Ayukes on injured reserve. George Kittles in injured reserve maybe coming back soon. Ricky Parasolet receiver is out. Joanne Jennings,

the receiver is playing through two different ankle sprains, five broken ribs. And yet somehow, he's the night, whatever you going to do, bleed on me? he's just like, how is he even out there? You know that guy in Game of Thrones that keeps getting killed and they bring him back to life? You know what I mean?

Barrett Dondarian? It's kind of like Joanne Jennings. It's just unbelievable. And somehow the worst injuries are probably on defense because Nick Bosa is a top six pass rush from the whole league and he's out for the season. And Fred Warner is just straight up the best middle linebacker in the NFL. He's out for the season. He's out for the season. Those are two keystone players on a defense where, by the way, everyone else left in free agency.

because those two guys were the ones they had to keep. So everything was built around them and they're done the whole year. So this, it is hard, like, again, they're four and two. They're tied for first. And yet, they're technically in first because they've beaten Seattle and the Rams. And yet, this is how the season has begun.

So this is... Yeah, I feel bad for Niners fans. I really do. I don't. I always forget, extends which Dicka hates the Niders. At this point, it's mostly performative, but yes, like, you know,

I grew up in this industry covering the Seahawks for a fan blog, and there was a lot of rivalry there. So, yeah. Number eight, worst vibes entering the NFL season, Las Vegas Raiders. Two and four, but they're coming off a win. That was the problem.

Their last place in the division, but they'd win. They're the only team of this entire list that won last week. Maybe it's just like, I'm projecting my expectations on them in terms of like what I was expecting from them and what they've actually done this year. who covered a fan blog for the Seahawks during the Pete Carroll era? Like I thought Pete Carroll would whip this team into shape a little bit more. You know, because we talked about it all offseason.

Like there's finally adults in the room. The Raiders have just been a mess. You know, from the coaching staff to the ownership to the GM, blah, blah, blah. Like it's just been one terrible thing after another for them. And then getting Brady and Carol and then they hired Chip Kelly. I'm like, oh, man, I can really see this working. Then they trade for Gino Smith. I'm like, oh, he's a professional quarterback.

This is going to look so much different. much better. It's just same old fucking Raiders this year. They're a total mess. The fans are turning on Pete Carroll's son, Brennan Carroll, because their offensive line has been totally all over the place. Carol looks kind of, and yeah, they did win, but like Carol has kind of looked a little old and demoralized. I know he is like the most energetic 70, what is he, 72 or 3 or whatever.

That you've ever seen. But I don't know. The times I've seen him, because I haven't been like, you know, watching standalone games for Raiders much this year. But like when, when I see him on the screen. He always just looks like a little sad. Gino is absolutely melting down. And he has 10 turnovers this year, which is most in the NFL. Their offense has been really, really hit or miss. They've got injuries. Brock Bowers is out. Genty is kind of, he definitely has looked better lately, but he's kind of been a slow starter for them. Their 29th on offense, 29th on special teams. I will say, the Raiders, I saw this, their 10th in DVOA on defense,

which I would never have guessed. So there's maybe one. little like positive thing there. But overall, I don't know, maybe we should ask Austin, but it just feels like the same world Raiders. I think in terms of the vibe expectations, the vibe that we were kind of seeing in the offseason, we talked about it a bunch. We're like, wow, the Raiders feel different. It's been extremely disappointing, especially after that week one win in New England, where everyone's like, wow, okay, the Raiders. Like, Gino's kind of ripping it. Brock Bowers immediately got hurt. This team has tanked and everything looks terrible. So I agree with you. I didn't really think about the Raiders that way, but I agree with you.

But they beat the Titans. I mean, that's not necessarily like a season changing thing. That'll fix it. Yeah. I get the Chiefs next. That'll be easy. If they can beat the Chiefs, then I'll think, and then I'll change my mind. Yeah.

Number nine, teams with the worst vibes in the NFL season. This is the hardest team to rank, I think, in the whole list. I think I had them the highest, the Eagles. And people might get mad at me about this. Sorry, the defending Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles. Yes. Ninth on the list of teams with worst vibes. Who are four and two first place in their division.

I'm obviously grading this on a scale, but I think Eagles fans are distraught. And I think the vibes are really genuinely bad. I think outside of years where teams that won the Super Bowl get injured, they have the year from hell the next year, I think the Eagles have some of the worst vibes of any post-super Bowl team in recent memory. I really do.

Like, even though they're four and two, whatever, back-to-back losses, they lost to the Giants. They basically haven't lost to the Giants in, like since 2021, really. They won in like 23, but that was a game that Hertz didn't really play in. So it's really been basically four years since they lost to the Giants. And just statistically, it's a mess. Like, none of it's working. They can't run the ball.

They're 30th and yards per game this year. Offensive EPA, they're 21st. They're 25th in rushing. Like, I mean, the AJ Brown, the passing game isn't met. The tush push. After they did four, I think the worst thing the Eagles did was. run four tush pushes in a row. I know. I was thinking that too, Craig.

I was like, as a coaching staff, you shouldn't do that because now you're just, now everyone's going to turn on you. It's single-handedly converted like 90% of pro-tush push people to anti-tush push. Doing that, that decision to run four in a row got the tush push canceled. Everyone's like, you know what? We're done. It was a perfect storm because it was third and one at the three. So then they ran it and didn't get it.

I had to do fourth and one at the three. And then you're at the two. And they just ran, you know what I mean? mean, so they just kept getting one yard. Michael Parsons is tweeting not a football play. Yes. And but you're, it was it's funny because you can't call plays for like optics, but like yeah, that probably

will get it canceled. But I just say like people are already like the push is already basically hanging on by a threat. What is this offense when they can't do it anymore? Let me tell you this. The Eagles have been outgained in all six games this year. And it's just funny because

again, after the first two plays of the game, Seque One had nine meaningful rushing yards. They can't really run with Saquine Barclay, who's like one of the best running backs ever. And they can't really get A.J. Brown, their ball as a receiver. So it's like, it's just...

It's just hard to explain. It's just a strange team. I mean, I do think, ironically, even though they're four and two coming off a Super Bowl, this is like maybe the lowest the vibes have been in like four years. The 2023, it was horrific. 2023, by far, because that was when they just, Matt Patricia was running the defense down the stretch

and they lost to the bucks and they were like, yeah, how could we have known they would blitz us? Like they had no blitz pickups. Like it was crazy. That was the worst. Yeah, they lost a lot of games heading into. Because they were like 10 and 1 to start that season and they collapsed down the world.

I don't know, the Badoos stuff is terrible. It's bad. I think the Eagles with the five, where they are specific, I think I interacted more Eagles fans than you guys. They are not ready to take outside criticism at all. They still defend hurts to the death. They're like, we're the defending champion.

Shut the fuck up. Internally, I know, I know that within the family, they're having conversations. Like, their internal group chats are like Jalen Hertz fucking blows. It's like from the godfather where he's like, don't ever take sides with someone outside the family ever again. It's exactly like that. But it's like the city. They can only talk about it in the geolocated conversations. Number 10 on the list of bad vibes.

I also didn't know where to put this team. But number 10, a list of bad vibes this season. The New Orleans Saints. I had, this one was kind of tough for me because on one hand, I think there are some reasons to be positive. But at the end of the day, they're one in five and not good. And I think what I, what I ended up coming to on this was basically they feel like, they feel like the team that is hungover. They went out. They maxed out their credit cards.

They fucking lived large. They went to Abitha and went to like a rave. And I said it purposely like that. Just don't just be aware. and they kind of like they did their thing. They sowed the royal oaths. And then they came back and they're like, fuck, now we don't have any money. We have the one of the worst caps.

This is a one in five team last place in the M.C. South. And they have to shed $21 million to get under the cap next year. And so I think you got like Alvin Camara. He's just like, I don't want to leave. Like I don't want to move. I'm just going to like play this year out, even though like I could go to some contender and possibly win a Super Bowl. I'm just kind of like, I feel like that in itself is just, I,

obviously we should probably be lauding him for being so loyal to his team. But at the same time, for me, it's kind of like an ick. I'm like, so you're just going to like play on some shitty team for the rest of your career and then just retire? Like, that just seems weird. I don't know. So the vibes are just weird for the saints. I think Rattler's been like better than we expected, but that's about the only thing.

I think Rattler is the reason where it's like what were the expectations of this team coming in and then Rattler's played fine. I think the thing is to your point, I, you know, I'm trying to think of a place where maybe you would not want the night to end and take out of the, a bunch of money late at night and wake up him over. I don't know, Craig, can you think of a city or a place where you'd want to just don't want the night to end and kind of regret it

the next day? No, none that we've been to. No, I can't think of anything. I can't think of any. I don't know. Anyway, number 11, did Tom Tom Tom even play? I don't even know. I don't think it was the first time we came in under the guns. Wow. We've nothing to say about to say. I just just, there is a bad thing. There is. There he is. I think in terms of expectation versus reality, it's like pretty aligned,

which I think is why they're a little bit lower on this list. Exactly. And Rattler's, it's like, it's like, knew they'd be bad. It was kind of interested to see Rattler. Shuck has done nothing, but Shuck isn't really a third quarterback. I think Thaisa might play before Shuck, but number 11th, a team also, I didn't know what to do with because they're playing Thursday, but the Cincinnati Bengals, we had 11th, which is cheating. This is probably like the last team before you jump into a new tier. Honestly, I think this is more, this year, I guess you could convince yourself if they beat the Steelers. They have three wins and they're close, but it's like, you're obviously not like

doing anything this year. I guess Barrow could come back at that very end of the season, but I think it's more just like in general Cincinnati fans are are have been punished every other year basically since borough's been in the league and it's probably extremely difficult to deal with that. I thought the Bengals were hard to rank because of what you said. If the Bengals beat the Steelers on Thursday football, then they have three wins and the Steelers have four and they have a head-to-head. The Steelers that are by it's the Bengals who lost more games. But I'm like, if they beat the Steelers, I felt weird about having a team with atrocious vibes. We're like, hey, the Flacco thing worked, Chase Higgins, like, they can pull this off, maybe.

If the Bengals lose on Thursday of football, they should be like fourth or fifth on this list. Like, they'll have not, they'll have been winless without Burrow, and at this point, Burrow might not even come back. And so that Thursday in football, I don't want to be like their whole season's on it, but a tremendous amount hinges on the Bengals making,

being relevant, Burrow returning, clinging to that hope, a tremendous amount rides on this Thursday of football game. And even that still feels like a long shot, but even if they were to win, it's like, all right. This is a team that starts 0 and 2 every year, and then they just go and make the playoffs anyway. Which is ironic because they started 2 and 0 this year.

Yeah, carefully wish for. It's like, I don't know. How good would they have to be with Flacco for Burrow to actually come back and have a shot? Everything else is as expected. The defense is horrific. No. And I, like, but the Bengals never sell at the deadline.

The Bengals never trade. The Bengals never give in probably to their detriment because they just, until they're like statistically eliminated. They don't believe in that. Again, the owner's father was Paul Brown who, like, was like the best coach. Like Bill Belichick would say Paul Brown's the best coach ever. They're just as old school as old school gets.

I think if they lose the next couple games, even the Bengals might be sellers at the trade deadline, which maybe doesn't sound crazy, but they don't do that. But I think Trey Hendrickson could be on the block the next couple weeks that they lose. So there will either. So we switch it to good vibes

and talk about the three of us in the ringer fantasy football league? We can, but first, I'm going to take a quick break. This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. I've got some hot picks for you guys. You heard it here first. American Eagle just launched the second drop of their exclusive limited edition

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Yeah, the boys are buzzing. The three of us are in second, third, and fourth place. We are all four and two. Only Sal is technically ahead of us. Just the fucking wagon. Yeah, Sal's a wagon. Actually, I beat Sal this week. DK, was it you who just beat Sal though?

I did, yeah. I had one hell of a week. You did. You went nuts. So anyway, things are getting interesting. Like the three of us are all in the mix, which is kind of exactly what we wanted. And Bill is one in five-in-five.

He's in last place. The standings are wild. A five-way... Bill being in last is amazing. And Sal being in last is incredible. It's also amazing. But it's tied. It's a five-way tie for first place.

It's the three of us and Sal and Sean Fennancy. Sal is the tie-break with the most points, but we're all four and two. And then House is at three and three. So that's pretty amazing for five people to be tied for first. A lot of parody. Yeah, there you go. What did Sal say when he picked his punishment?

He was like, there's no way I'm losing this bill. Yeah, yeah. Bill said there's no way I'm getting last, so it's fine. No, no, no, no, I'm losing to Bill's team or whatever. And then Sal's just got to wagging. There's no way I'm losing the five quarterbacks of Bill. And also, it's funny because I feel like my team's pretty solid, but I ended up having, again, for our fantasy league, we made the punishment you do a thing you can draft. So you actually can draft an easier punishment earlier.

but the thing was we did it live so if you took a player that had already been taken you had to take a punishment that was the deal I who was fucking hosting the live stream was lost track

and I drafted someone so I my eighth round pick was if I come and last I have to eat a pizza I have to eat an olive anchovy pizza so I didn't even have any thrones yeah whatever I didn't even have any throne pick

so you're just building in excuses already all right I see what I'm saying I'm just proud of my word I didn't take an ether round pick I'm 2-0 without Lamar, so I feel like that's not getting enough talk and not enough buzz around the group chat,

but I was kind of able to couple of a week schedule. Just saying. Kind of a week schedule. Eh, put up north of 130 both weeks. That's not bad. Didn't you beat Malo this week? Kind of funny to gloat to Mallory,

a Ravens fan about how beating her without Lamar Jackson. That's kind of like a... I'm in second place, and Jaden Daniels has missed two weeks, so... All right, this is really fearing it to know what gives a shit. This is no one gets a fuck. Let's move on.

Fantasy court. Do we have the fantasy court drop? Oh, that was Tom Tom Tom. Got you, Kai. He's got trigger finger on the Tom Tom. Kai is just in the spin cycle right now. Kai is just absolutely rocks. He's experiencing technical difficulties.

Yeah, all right. Honestly, I'm just to start reading this email and Kai, if you just play it, then play it. No, it's just Tom, Tom. I hope it becomes farther sharp. Keep all of this, Kai, even though they can't hear you. Please keep it. Yeah, I think Kai's in shock that I won two games without Lamar.

She's kind of frazzar. He's like, no, no, no, keep talking about how Jane Daniels is out. And D.K. and Craig persevered. That's sick. Yeah, yeah. You started it, pal. All right, so fantasy court. Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.

I don't really want to be handcuffed. The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. This one's from Alec. A ball. Alec says, I'm requesting a ringer fantasy court ruling for my 16-man dynasty league. Oh, wow. This guy's a sicko. I'm the commissioner, a recent treasonry.

trade has raised the dispute. We've never had anything like this happen in Link History. A manager put in the group chat that he wanted to trade future draft picks for running back or receiver. And then shortly afterward, he trades a 2026 second run pick and a 227 third run pick for ETN. Okay. He thought it was Travis ETA.

Oh. But he actually traded for Trevor ETN, the little brother of Travis, who's on the Panthers. because on Sleeper, the Sleeper platform, it comes across. It just says TETN. Yep. Yeah, but it says the team he's on. It does say the team. And so since trades don't automatically process, I, the commissioner, had to approve it.

And I also pushed it through without realizing that it was Trevor E.TN. I also thought it was Traverse E.T.N for this trade. And I feel like I should have followed up with the manager before pushing it through, because there was an obvious mistake here. And a mistake so easy to make, I also didn't notice. the manager admits it was a mistake that I think the guy who accepted who took Trevor E TN was like, I didn't want Trevor E Tien. And it's basically 50-50 on the league about whether we should overturn this or not.

But we did agree that however you guys rule, we will abide. I love that. People are so willing to listen to us. Seed power to us. Wait, what was the commissioner rule again? The commissioner has to approve the trade? So that's just like normal. You know how it's like LM instead of like a vote, it's just like LM, like sometimes the commissioner

has to just hit the button and approve instead of just it automatically goes. through. So he just hit the button. And then he looked, he was like, oh, shit, that was Trevor E.TN for his future second. I think it's on, as much as I want to defend the guy who traded away or who's traded for the wrong ETN, I do think it's on him. Right. Really? Oh, I disagree. I think the commissioner should reverse this. This is like obvious that he didn't mean to trade for that guy. I don't know. This is what I think we've, we've had fantasy courts like this in the past where it's like, this isn't the point. You're not trying to trick someone when you trade him, whatever.

Because there's been other instances of this where people get confused about which player they're trading for, I think. So when the guy's in the emergency room doesn't set his lineup, it's looking at your decisions. But if I was the commissioner, I would immediately reverse this because it wasn't, because it's obvious, the guy's not going to trade a future second for Trevor ETN. I don't know. Part of him is like. He's not playing.

Which one is it? Travis or Trevor? Now I'm confused. He traded for Trevor, accidentally, but he wanted him to Travis. Yeah. This is like, this is one of those things.

It's like, you're being a good faith commissioner if you reverse this trade. So, he did not mean to trade for this guy. Look, that's the sensible solution. It's more like funny, fantasy football spirited.

Hey man, this is kind of hilarious. Yeah. To let this stand. There's something to be said for looking at the finer details. I have to recuse myself from this case. Are you in this league? No, but I may have engaged in this sort of activity in the past.

Yeah, see, that makes me feel even stronger that I'm right. You participate? Was it a B. Robinson situation? Yeah, so in fantasy base, I was in like eighth grade, and it was in this fantasy baseball league, and this is like the, it was like a big shortstop era. There was like Jose Reyes for the Mets. There was Jimmy Rollins, the Phillies. And there was this guy on the Mets in like AA who was a catcher.

who also was named Jose Reyes. So in fantasy baseball, it came out as Jose A. Reyes, but crucially, he had the little New York Mets next to him. So as long as you didn't click on the name, you would never know, unless you knew Jose Reyes' middle name,

I may or may not have added Jose A. Reyes off of waivers and then traded him straight up for Jimmy Rollins. Yeah, but you did that intentionally. The E.N. person, I don't imagine. I imagine it was the guy who accidentally traded for the wrong ETN was just earnestly clicked on the wrong name, I'm assuming, right?

It wasn't somebody on the other side doing bad faith traded, correct? I will check the email. I did ask for more clarification because I had the same question. Who sent who for what? That is what we need to know. This, you know what this reminds me of? There used to be a guy on the bears named Adrian Peterson.

Oh, yeah, yeah. The one getting ETN admits it was a mistake on his end. So he reached out and he made the offer. So it's tough. I don't know. I would argue, even in the screen, now you're right. It says TETN.

You're kind of on autopilot. I would argue. And I may or may not have to do this multiple times because there was also a reliever named Ryan Braun for years. And I kind of flipped him to. Jesus, you're kind of a minute. This is just a serial cheater. In eighth grade, I did.

Yeah. This guy named Kevin. Never make a trade with him. I am, but. Poor Kevin. But I will say one thing. thing about this, which is, it says Carolina right there. That's what I'm saying.

It says the team name. It says TETN, Carolina. Now, I get that it's Travis E.TN and you're kind of rushing. And maybe you don't know he has a brother. But it does say the name. So to be clear, the guy who traded for Trevor ETN initiated the request. He was

the one who initiated the request. Okay, then that's fine. I think we keep it that way. If the other guy sent this and he was like, try, he was like basically fishing to get this guy to like fuck up, that's different. In this case, I'm like, I'm okay keeping it. So as someone who also went fishing, I agree. If the person sent him a trade for Trevor Etyn, decline it.

But if he sent it, you think that like, so if this person said it and clicked on it, I think it was Travis, then you're like, oh, sorry, no picks next year. It is funny that both him and the commissioner didn't notice this. By the way, I petitioned Sleeper to tell them to fucking stop with the first initial thing. They didn't listen to me. It's really annoying to me. Just put the whole name. I feel bad.

I do. I kind of feel bad for this guy. Like kind of shooting this down. But I don't know. It's kind of a lesson learned situation. The 22nd? A 22nd. This is going to be like...

And a 16 team league. A big deal in a 16 team league. Second and a third. Yeah. I will say this. It's obvious. Making the trade stay is funnier. Keeping reversing it as justice.

Do we care about justice? making it funny. Because they're abiding by what you choose. That's where I don't know. I don't know that either. I'm recusing myself. I've done this a lot. No, but it's different.

You like legitimately cheated somebody. Come on. You have to, so I'm going to go back to my original. Craig is, Craig is saying keep it. I'm saying reverse it because it's good faith commissioning. You know what I'll say.

You make the call. Can I make one more case? Yeah, yeah. I'm now maybe leaning to D.K. side because regardless of what happens, the guy learned his lesson. Yeah. You know? in a 16 team league a 22nd or a second round pick is like actually

if you reverse this trade give him ETN back or whatever you know fix everything the guy who made who made this blunder he still learned his lesson he's never going to do it again so can we can we make one part of this maybe as a as a pun can we make he has to change his team name to like TETN yeah we got is there is there something we want to name is maybe he has to like give a fourth round pick. And I was going to say, forfeit that third to keep the second or something like that. The punitive.

I actually think that's super fair. He gets to, yeah, the 2027 third he gets to keep. He gets back to, in reverse ET for 2026. I like that. That's fair. All right. That's the decision. There we go.

I like that. Okay. Let's get to some emails here. I'm not going to lie. You guys got to lock it. We have some good stuff. All right. Fuck.

Hold on. Let me get my smelling salt. Yeah. All right. We got to do that, by the way. Everyone's doing that. I know. Pablo and Mina did it.

I'm so mad. We said we're going to do it when we were in Los Angeles. We forgot. I've never done it. Hyvitz of you? Hyvitz. Oh, yeah. Guess where we're going next week.

Oh, Los Angeles. All right. Yeah. We want to spend like sales to the office. Literally, we only have one more show before we're in person. Oh, yeah. Okay. We'll mail in the office.

Okay. So we took a lot of emails here about labor. This one's from Alana. Alana. A lot. I love these. Short and sweet. Okay.

Hours after I delivered a baby, my husband, unironica. looks at me and says, my back really hurts. He's like, I've been standing all day. Oh, my God. I accidentally read it. This is so fucking good. I love these kinds of stories. I love, so my back hurts.

I'm not just saying that's your wife. It's like the same day she delivers me. Oh, my God. And then this is an email from Ben. Benny, B-Bone. I truncated it. But basically, he's like, I'm with my wife at the hospital in the middle of what ended up being 26 hours of labor.

And she was in so much pain. They actually gave her, actually fentanyl, actually. And Ben says, I'm flipping channels at three in the morning, being the dutiful husband, and I'm staying up all night, trying to let my wife get a little bit of sleep.

Turns out, my wife is not really fully asleep, but is instead laying in her hospital bed in a fentanyl-induced half-sleep state and says to herself in her half-sleep state, mumbling to herself I'm quote I'm in the worst pain of my life

literally creating a human and this motherfucker's just sitting there watching Bob's burgers she's like fuck this guy she said fuck this guy she said fuck this guy oh my god this guy about her husband sitting there watching Bob's burgers fuck this guy

I thought you were going to say that he was like on Skinnamax or something I was asleep and she like woke up Get them, Max. All right. The smelling salts gave you some prophetic powers. I can't wait. Jesus Christ.

I don't even want to read this. It's terrible. I got a stretch. If you've made it this forward in the episode, you've got to stick with this. Oh, I am so excited. This is, all right. I'm sorry.

I have to stretch my... Take a sip of water. Yeah, go ahead. I have terrified where this is going. Yeah, I don't... Don't... Just lock it. Don't bother it.

This is from Jaybone. We can't even name them. It's so bad. Fucking J-Bone. Like a real J-Bone. Jay-Bone says I'm from Austin. So my usual breakfast is either savory, I don't know, pronounce a collages,

sausage, jalapino and cheese, or the go-to, bacon, egg, and cheese, avocado, breakfast taco. Heavy start. Yeah, Austin is good breakfast. Jaybone writes, My first child was born Saturday morning, August 20th, 2011.

Oh, yeah, Leo. Big day. Life-changing. But his fate would have it, later that very night was also our very long-running fantasy football league draft. Okay. In this league, this is J-Bo, not me. In this league, I'm basically faced from the A-te team.

I'm the smooth talker, resourceful, always finding a way to make things happen. My secret weapon for our fantasy football draft every year is each year I would recruit two dancers from a local gentleman's club to assist with the draft. And they would serve drinks, keep the energy high, and strategically provide just enough distraction

to give me a competitive edge. Hold on. He's recruiting strippers. He has strippers work the draft so he can get like Jimmy Graham in the 12th round in the 2011 fantasy draft. Are there any openings in this league? Any openings?

Hit me up. He has strippers numbers, in other words. Well, I don't know. And so the deal, he says the deal is simple. It's 12 league members, $100 each.

the dances he makes me or is this just her job it's just her job no he says the uh the guys are all in IT with deep pockets so i think the strippers just like them okay they're just you know they're just huge fans okay you know he says the girls are treated well they make a small fortune and the fellows are all super happy and i'd get to weasel in some really good late runne across the board yeah they maybe not crossing off names on the papers so well what's funny is i bet those guys know what he's up to and they don't care they don't give a fuck they're like dude this guy cares about fucking maurice jones james me have With Jimmy Graham, who cares? Who gives a shit?

So, J. Bone writes, I've always been very transparent with my wife, and she knows all about my yearly draft, quote, draft strategy. So, flash forward to my son being born the day of this draft. When our son was born that morning, my wife understood that 11 other guys were counting on me to pull off this sacred annual ritual. This day was like Christmas, their birthday, and the Super Bowl all wrapped. into one evening for these 11 guys. And if I don't show, the entertainment falls through, and I'm the point man that makes this happen. Can you imagine if the entertainment fell through?

How disastrous that would be. Can you imagine? So Jaybone writes, so my wife let me slip away for a few hours that night under one strict rule. No drinking. Okay. That's it.

Nothing else? Because I'd be coming back to our newborn and my wife in the hospital, so no drinking. He's just covered in glitter. So to this day, it's unbelievable. He went into the ER. He's inside of a cake.

Covered in frosting. So to this day, when our oldest son's birthday comes up, my wife still laughs and says to friends, oh yeah, our son's birthday. The night, Jaybone went to a party with hookers. And every time, Hookers. Every time I jump in, I jumped up a notch.

Every time I jump in, I correct her. I'm like, it was exotic dancers. Yeah. All right. I think we've now, what we've just created is a competition for the coolest wife of all time. And now, please email us if you think you have the coolest wife of all time. This is like a remarkable story. This is like, Andre Carrienko's wife, who was like, yeah, he gets the cheat at me once a year.

It's fine. Is that a thing? Oh, you don't know this? Yeah. She's talked to this publicly. She's like, yeah. Yeah, it's like, because the NBA players, you know, they're on the road, 41 games a year, and it's a whole thing. He's got like a hall pass.

Yeah, he gets a hall pass. He gets one a year. And she's like, in my experience, if I didn't give it to him, he would cheat. And then I give it to him and something about me allowing him to do it. I think actually when he does it, he actually feels worse and doesn't want to do it again. Do you think he just still does it all the time? He doesn't want to hear and he feels terrible. I don't know.

Not my marriage. It's a smart idea by her, I think, trying to get ahead of it. But I don't know about that. I don't want to speak for her. I'll read the quote she has. The quote is, this is, I'm reading, this is 2013, she said this. This is, wow, this is a quote.

Also, like her saying this publicly is interesting. What's forbidden is, this is a quote, what's forbidden is always desirable. Athletes, particularly men, are susceptible to all things they're offered. Same way raising kids, if I tell my kid, no pizza, no pizza. You know what he wants?

Pizza. And she goes on and, yeah, she basically is like, yeah, if you want to do it, do it. But anyway, yeah, her, maybe that's this guy's wife. Maybe Jaybones Andre Kirillenko. My thoughts. Yeah, go.

D.K., your biggest takeaway. How about just not cheat on your wife? Better win for his wife or better loss for Keralinko? Loss? Loss? Well, because now the four- T-K-S-like, what loss? Has been removed according to his wife.

Right, right, right, right. You know, whatever, do what you've got to do, but I don't know why you say this publicly. Why? Why? Why do that? Yeah. I, uh, all, you know, I respect, if there, if this is the lifestyle they want to live, I can respect that. I do think it is funny that she's just like resigned to the fact that he will cheat on her.

That's not great. But, you know, that's their life. So anyway, that's this guy's wife in this email. Very diplomatic. Yeah. What would you like me say, Craig? I was trying to get anything out of you. Can you imagine?

Like, you just zoom out for a second. This guy, I actually believe him when he's like, I'm the A team. I'm the fucking face from A team of this draft. And I'm like, this guy, you zoom out in a sentence. You're like, this guy. the day his son was, his first child was born, went to his fantasy football draft with strippers, and then came back to the hospital.

Yeah, like I said, this is like an all-time wife move. I can't, I'm in shock. I'm in shock. Pretty chill. Weird. I still laughing about the guy who told his wife his back hurts. So good. Okay, this is another one. Was it Andre Kierlinco's league?

Is that who Jaybon is? Yeah, probably. this email here is from Dick is Buddy from Seattle who didn't want to share his name. Oh. Okay. No, no.

I'll call him B-bone for Buddy. Okay. So he was, he writes, so I told the story for people who are not listening or who didn't hear who have no idea

about that joke in Austin Powers Gold member where Dr. Evil gets hit the nuts. He's like, wait, let me make sure they're still there. One, two, and three,

we're good. I saw that one was like seven years old and I got really concerned that I didn't have three balls. and I thought that for years. So anyway, I asked for stories like that, and didn't expect this one. So, D.K.'s buddy, didn't want to be named,

says, similar to Hyphids and the Goldmember story, I had a unique experience learning about how many testicles someone should have. When I was 14, I was in sex education. And in class, they talked about how guys had two testicles, which really surprised me, because whenever I felt down there, I have two and a half.

A half? yes, he says, I have two full-sized testicles and one clearly half-sized testicle. Interesting. That makes me very nervous. Yeah. That gives me tremendous anxiety. So continuing the email, he says, I went home from school that day, told my dad that I learned people are only supposed to have two, but I have two and a half. And my father booked a doctor appointment immediately.

Yeah, yeah. And after an ultrasound, they confirmed, yes, indeed, I have two and a half testicles. It is rare, but no. nothing to be concerned about from a health medical standpoint. Oh, okay. Are they situated? That's why I'm, now I'm trying to.

Is it like a sandwich? Yeah. Where is the, like the third one's lower than another two? Higher. Does it move? Is your buddy? D.K.

Schumer text. You know, like the little like thing that you put on a desk that's just like the two balls that like hit the middle ball and then it creates like the perpetual. The Newton thing. Yeah. It's just like that. That's what I'm thinking. It's where Newton got the idea.

Just the perpetual motion. Okay, so continue. Is that it or is? No, so he says later on in life in my 20s, I become friends with this comedian based in Los Angeles and he hosts a successful podcast at the time. And so I fly down to L.A., hang out with this comedian friend,

and I sit in on an episode that he's taping. And it just so happened that for that episode, the two people on the show were porn stars. Love it. And like kind of fantasy draft? Somewhat famous porn. Yeah, and then it was J-Bone. Yeah.

So kind of famous porn stars. And he says during the episode, they actually end up starting talking about testicles. And I knew this was my moment to shine. Oh, no. And so I blurted out. I have two and a half balls. And I wasn't supposed to be anything but a spectator for this episode. But they immediately, these porn stars start asking me questions.

Thankfully, this was an audio-only podcast because the next thing I know, I am standing in front of two porn stars while they each took turns grabbing my balls to confirm that I actually. have two and a half balls. They gave him a physical. Wow. They had professional curiosity, if you know. Ask them to cough and everything. Wow. And then he ended the email.

I'm like, I feel like it was just getting good. All right. It's like, come on, redacted. Like, come on, man. Let's keep going here. This is how porn starts, right? Like podcasts. I wouldn't know.

You tell me, D.K. You freak. This is your friend. Says the guy who watches Cinemax. That's called Skinimax. Skinnax. Sorry. Quietly.

Which I feel like you should know the most about. I was going to say. I actually don't know. It's Gittamack's a real thing. I actually. Yeah. Oh, he's pretending. That's,

that's also, it's one of those dated, dated references. Like, I don't think Craig or I or anyone younger than us has ever, like, paid for porn. Yeah, when I was like, you know, 15 or whatever,

it's like, you, it's like midnight and you're, like, scrolling around the premium of, like, the cable channels that you're like, you have a subscription to HBO or whatever. And then it's always like the, like, weirdest, like,

soft core drama, you know? Yes, yes. You know, you have ESPN on the last channel button ready to go just in case. The most like previous button. The most universal experience. Like you have ears like a German shepherd waiting to hear if anything happens upstairs. Like one ear is like physically turned towards the doorway.

The last button. Yeah. It's your last salvation. We should have gotten out of here so long ago. DK, thank you, DK. Thank you, K. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronan.

Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone. Thank you everyone emailed in. Thank you to Jaybon's wife, but mostly thank you again to all the wives who deal with husbands while you're giving birth. That's, you know what? Sorry.

Shout out especially to Alana. Sorry, your husband's back hurt. I'm sorry to your husband's back. Can you ask him how he's doing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, ask him how he's doing. Get back to us. Let us know your husband's back is doing. Rankings, Fancyf Football.3.com for updated rankings.

Yeah, after the next episode, we'll be in Los Angeles together next week. So we're going to have a bunch of episodes in person. We've got to remember to do the smelling salts. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, butthole surfers. You guys ever heard of them?

Was that a Skinimax channel? Po. Hey, oh, no, I don't know what that is. I don't even know what to say. Butthole surfers. I don't even know what to say. I got to say, you have a naughty mouth sometimes. You have a poop mouth.

Poop mouth, Ron. Poop words. Craig, if I offered you some money for my wallet right now, would you forgive me? Please tell me about this band that I don't want to say the name. I don't actually know a lot about the butthole surfers. They had a famous song called Pepper. Okay.

And that's the extent of which I know about them. Did they just like demand they didn't want to be popular? Like why did they name their band the Butthole surfers? But we're talking about it now, you know, like 30 years later. How did you think of them? Somebody told me to do it because we were talking about the band Pepper a while ago. and then butthole surfer's main song is called Pepper. So this conversation about sex and wanted nothing to do.

It's completely unrelated from the butto. Well, yeah, that too. Started thinking about genitalia and. You're pretty sick, chubs. They're an American rock band formed in San Antonio, Texas. Have you seen that? I'm dancing around. You tell me every fact except why they named the fucking band

Butthole Surfer and also what part of the butthole we're surfing on here. I even surfed that. Okay, let's go. Here, let's see. They'd not set a lot on name. Craig's mind just went somewhere. I don't know why they were called the Butthole Surfers. I should have done my research on this.

The fact do you think I care about anything about these people other than that origin story? It is tough to sell. Have you guys seen that video of the guy like pretending to be the lead singer of the bare naked ladies? And it's like them pitching themselves to a music label for the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, he's like, hey, what's up?

So, yeah, we're really excited to see you guys. Like, what's your band name? The guy's like, the bare naked ladies. And they're like, okay, that's a pretty rough start. It's going to be really hard to market. And he's like, yeah, yeah. But our first, our big song starts like this. Chicken and China out of Chinese chicken.

And they're like, get the fuck out. Oh, that's really good. Shout out to, I don't know how you pronounce this, but I think it's Mosino Dorito. That guy's hilarious. He made that video. So anyway. Great.

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