The Ringer NFL Show - Fantasy RB Tiers and Fears. Plus, CMC Hurt.

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

LIVE SHOW in Seattle on August 21: Click below for tickets! The guys react to the Brandon Aiyuk trade rumors that are heating up and discuss how each potential landing spot would impact his fantasy value (1:00). Next, they walk through their running back rankings, place the players in tiers, and address their most pressing fears from The Ringer’s 2024 Fantasy Football Rankings (11:15). “You guys want to do some emails?” (56:24). Tickets: https://www.ticketweb.com/event/the-ringer-fantasy-football-show-the-crocodile-tickets/13718233 Tier 1: Breece Hall and Bijan Robinson (11:48) Tier 2: Christian McCaffrey, Jonathan Taylor, Jahmyr Gibbs, Derrick Henry, and Kyren Williams (21:39) Tier 3: De’Von Achane (28:51) Tier 4: Saquon Barkley, Travis Etienne Jr., and Isiah Pacheco (36:05) Tier 5: Joe Mixon, Josh Jacobs, Kenneth Walker III, James Conner, James Cook, David Montgomery, Rachaad White, Alvin Kamara, Raheem Mostert, and Aaron Jones (38:41) Tier 6: Rhamondre Stevenson, D’Andre Swift, Jaylen Warren, Najee Harris, Zamir White, and Zack Moss (44:12) Tier 7: Brian Robinson Jr., Gus Edwards, Javonte Williams, Tony Pollard, Austin Ekeler, Devin Singletary, Ezekiel Elliott, Tyjae Spears, Chase Brown, and Jonathon Brooks (44:45) Tier 8: Trey Benson, Nick Chubb, Jerome Ford, J.K. Dobbins, Chuba Hubbard, Blake Corum, Tyler Allgeier, Rico Dowdle, and Zach Charbonnet (50:00) Check out our 2024 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Kiera Givens and Jack Sanders Producer: Kai Grady Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In the fall of 2014, a group of hackers pulled off the biggest Hollywood heist of all time. They broke into computer servers belonging to Sony Pictures and released hundreds of thousands of top secret documents. The attack would cause an international incident, upbent thousands of lives, and changed the movie industry forever. From Spotify and the Ringer podcast network, I'm Brian Raftery, and this is the Hollywood Hack. Listen on the big picture feed, starting August 19th. Hypatty. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Borlebeck. Today we are doing our running back tiers. We already have our rankings up at fantasy football dot 3.com. We're going to go through our running backs and we're going to put them in tiers so it's easier for you to draft. And we're

going to do some emails too. But first, the San Francisco 49ers are in disarray, chaos, catastrophe. Christian McCaffrey has a calf injury. We'll get to that later. Brandon Ayuk seems like he will be treated imminently by the time you listen to this show. Maybe Brandon Ayuk is already on another team might already be dealt. We are recording this Tuesday afternoon on August. August 6th. Craig, not only are you our Bay Area correspondent, you were also a Steelers fan who grew up around a bunch of 49ers fans. Is there panic in the streets? What is the state of your group chats? There is panic in the streets. Nobody wants the Niners to trade Brandon I.

You know, no Niners fans wants the Niners to trade Brandon Ayup. So I think that's super terrifying to them. And then the McCaffrey thing is just like the cherry on top of a disaster. So the vibes aren't great right now, I would say in San Francisco. However, on my side of the fence in Pittsburgh. Vives aren't bad right now. We might get Brandon Ayyuk. Justin Fields looks all right. I would love Brandon Ayuk.

The Steelers, I think, can make it work. Any team can make any cabspaced thing work. I'm convinced of that. But I'm really, really hoping that I get that Adam Schafter notification that Brandon Ayuk has been traded to the Steelers. DK, you're a known San Francisco 49ers hater. Are you excited to dance on the 49ers grave when they trade Iyuk and lose McCaffrey?

Oh, I don't do that, but I would be very excited. if he leaves. But if you could dance really well, would you dance at their grave? Is that like you can't dance? If somebody put on a really good song and you were near their grave? Oh, well, when you put it that way, no, I probably still wouldn't do it. But near the grave. It is kind of fun because like Trent Williams is holding out kind of.

Brendan Ayuk is holding in. Yeah. You know, the injuries are starting to pile up a little bit for this team. Heifitz, you're starting to make me think you're a little bit of a Nostradamus because Hyphitz has been all over this 49. are going to fall apart trend this offseason, even though they're like easily one of the most talented teams in the NFL. He just kind of keeps saying they're going to fall apart.

He also said they're not going to trade Ayyuk though. I did. I did not think they would trade I yuk. So it's weird because I'm almost going to be right twice. But no, I, I did not think they were trade. You still think they're not going to trade them? You still think? No, I was wrong.

Well, that's one of the reasons I thought this was surprising is that basically the, I mean, big names aren't traded around this time because teams have their budgets done. So teams are like, it's usually just too complicated to get it done. It's kind of like you get it done by the draft. You kind of got to just deal with it for the rest of the year. And so the Niners, I think the reason this has been complicated. So Adam Schaefter at ESPN, he reported basically that the Steelers were in and then back out and then the Browns and Patriots back to the Steelers, Stip Snap, Stap, but I think the reason it's complicated is you need a team that not only is willing to give the Niners enough draft picks to trade away Braden and Ayuk when they want to make a Super Bowl run.

but you also need to find a team that will give the picks and can fit Brandon Ayuk onto their contract into their salary cap even though it's August and they have all their players already and you need the team to be good enough that Brandon Ayuk will sign with you so you have like New England's involved and I think New England's offering more picks

but Brandon Ayuk was just in the Super Bowl and the Patriots suck I don't think he wants to go there so frankly I think the Pats and Browns seem like smoke screens watch them he amend up on one of those teams now but I think that's why what was going on is that he wants to go to Pittsburgh and the Steelers probably know that and they're kind of just haggling over the price. But no, I didn't think this would happen.

You don't think the Browns are good enough? I think the Browns are probably good enough. But also, you have to remember, like, I mean, still the Cleveland Browns. Like some people still have a bias. I don't know, but I mean, Ayuk watched Deshawn Watson has sucked for the past two years. So I'm not sure. We'll see, maybe he's already been dealt by the time this happening. I will say, I agree.

I was wrong. I did not think Iyook would be dealt. However, if the 49ers were going to miss the playoffs with the season from hell, I feel like it would involve branded Ayukukes, being traded and then Ricky Pairsoll, the first rounder they drafted to replace him also being injured. Christian McCaffrey being injured. Also, Elijah Mitchell, McAfree's backup, also having a hamstring injury. Like, it's August 6. Like, this is a pretty incredibly bad start to the Niners' season. And scary that the most injury prone player on the team, Debo Samuel, was healthy right now.

Like, if he's the one that you're relying on to stay healthy, you're in a tough spot. I mean, at the end of the day, I think the Niners are basically choosing Brock Proteo over Brandon Ayuk. I don't think that's an unfair way to portray this. Maybe they're choosing Depot over Britain at IUC, but Dak Prescott and DeShon Watson make more per game than Brock Purdy makes on the whole year. And so that, but if Brock Purdy is a year away from 55 million a year, I think that's really what's going on here, which is crazy, because I thought

Shanahan would value the extra year of Iuke in a Super Bowl run, but I clearly couldn't get it done. I don't know. So I have a question. So according to over the cap, it says that the Niners actually have the most effective cap space right now in the NFL, $52 million. Is that just them saving that for Brock Purdy? So, I don't know. I'm not exactly an accountant, but I do think that... It's just weird that the Niners have the most cap space and they won't pay Brandon I.

You say effective cap space, or... They have the most cap space and effective cap space in the league, according to over the cap. So basically the way... So I think the Cowboys are pretty low down there, too, actually, but the Cowboys still have to pay DAC, C, D, Micah. And so I think it's actually... I think the Bengals are probably the best way to look at it. The Bengals are giving Joe Burrow a quarter of a billion dollars.

Because obviously you should. Yeah. And then to March... Well, yeah, maybe they should be. Stop. But like, no, he's obviously worth it. And then you have Jamar Chase, who they're going to have to sign to like, you know, 30 million a year.

Yeah, I'll probably have four years, $120 million for Jamar Chase. So then it's like, well, T. Higgins, do you want to pay T. Higgins? He's awesome. All right. Well, but at that point, do you want to give half of your cap to Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins? Do you want half of your cap to be two receivers? And so I think that that's the Niners thing. When a Brock Purdy gets 55 and then you're going to pay Debo, you're going to pay McCaffrey.

You know, even if you let Kittle go, do you want to be big pay. paying, you want that much proportionally on offense when Kyle Shannon's whole thing is developing people. I think that's the problem. And then on top of it, I feel like Ayuk wants a lot. And honestly, seems like he wants, I also think part of it's like, like, Iuke's probably the best player on the offense after McCaffrey. And there was a Netflix show with Debo Samuel and George Kittle and he wasn't even in the thing. And at some point, like, Eagle gets involved. Like he probably does want to be paid like one of these other guys. Like it's probably like a really large problem. So I don't know. I think that he's probably once like, I don't know, 30, 31 million.

the Niners might be like you're worth 28. And like, I don't know, sometimes that stuff can get really personal. It seems silly. Just give him his money. I honestly, I'm surprised just because I thought the Niners would have traded Debo before I Iuke because Ayuk is a few years younger. As much as I love Debo, if you go by the rule of a year early rather than a year too late, Debo already is like such a physical player and he's a one of one player.

It's hard to, you wouldn't be able to replace him. But how much longer does Debo have at peak Debo? Like two more? I think does that playing style have three more years of him being? able to do this all Swiss Army stuff. Because Ayuk's game, I feel like Auk does have half a decade left. And he also has, he's the kind of guy

that could go and you're like, oh, he's actually a top six receiver. And like, we didn't even fully realize it. You know, I was trying to think of the last time a real contender has traded away one of their best players. I was like, this is so rare that a team that is right in the mix. A top two or three team in the league is trading away one of their best players.

And I mean, the chiefs traded away Tyree killed three years ago. Back to the Miami. And one back to back Super Bowls right after. So I guess there is president. They have Patch of homes though So that's Well Brock produce better than the homes

Yeah I don't know I just feel like this is a bizarre situation It's also weird timing Like most this type of trade Doesn't really happen At this time of year usually So there's just a lot of weirdness around this

I don't really I'm still not convinced they're gonna trade him I mean I think it seems likely now But do you think that maybe this is Just really hardcore negotiating by both sides I you credit art of the deal maybe. I mean, the Niners are pretty,

the Niners are pretty hardcore negotiators, but no, I think this is actually going to happen. I mean, I think the last time first, I could be wrong on this, and I'm sure this will come out when the deal happens, but the last time first round picks

were exchanged this late, I mean, there was like Sam Bradford because like Teddy Bridgewater's exploded. And so the Eagles needed a, sorry, the Vikings needed a quarterback, so they sent over a high pick for Bradford. And then otherwise, like,

I think it's just like Laramie Tunsel when the dolphins, traded him in Houston for like three first round picks. That was one of the worst trades ever. It was because Bill O'Brien was the coach in the gym. So this just doesn't happen very often. But for fantasy purposes, you know,

I don't know where we'll hold off on Ayuk to we actually get a team. But I would say that I think it's like like wheels up for Debo Samuel, like a Debo, especially if McCaffrey and Elijah Mitchell are both banged up. Debo is both going to be the number one receiver on this team. And then also might be getting goal line carry. So I would say Debo moves. I think Debo's like a top 15 player if Ayuk is out,

to be totally honest. Have you seen the numbers? that when Debo is playing but Ayuk is out, Debo's numbers are ludicrous. Like he has like a 30 something percent target rate. Debo was the like a top two fantasy wide receiver only a couple

years ago. Yeah, that was because he was being used essentially as a running back and a receiver that year and then they went and got McCaffrey and basically to try and appease him. Debo was used like the best player on a high school football team who's not the quarterback. Like they're just, yeah, you're just, we're just going to get you the ball in every play. That was a fun year.

That was fun to watch that. He's so good. So yeah. So, well, with that, all right, so we'll hold off any thoughts on Ayuk for fantasy purposes and so we have a team. I think we're all in agree and Steveo's going to shoot up our rankings if Iyuk actually gets traded. Come to Pittsburgh, Brandon. Where's the best place he can go?

Like, in terms of fantasy, where are you hoping he goes? For fantasy? I mean, realistically, Browns, Pat, Steelers, or anywhere? No, no, no, like of the teams that have been mentioned. Pat's, Browns, Steelers. Who are the other teams that were mentioned? Like, Washington was

in for a minute, but I don't think they're in anymore. It's weirdly, I still think it's kind of the Steelers. And maybe it's, maybe it's New England, I guess. I feel like if Ayuk goes to the Steelers, he's going to ruin Pickens and himself. How dare you? So I think the problem with the Browns, I think the problem with all these teams is they're like, oh man, a receiver who can block, you know? Like, I mean, I guess the Browns, because they'd be trading Cooper for Ayuk.

I feel like I you could get the ball. But even that it's all weird. It's like the quarterback's doing to be Watson, Russell Wilson or Justin Fields in Pittsburgh. Watson and Cleveland or like Jacoby Brissette or Drake Man, New England. Like, I mean, they're all pretty weird. So not ideal. All right. Next up here, the other news. So we're going to do, we were doing running back

tiers. And again, the reason we do tiers is because as much as we have rankings, tiers are by far the best way to figure out, it's like supply and demand instantly. And like it's, you put in all this work and then like, tick, tick, your draft comes. And then you're like, you look at your tears and you cross the guy. And you're like, oh, there's four running backs left in this group. But like one wide receiver and I'm picking getting three picks. so like I'd rather just take a receiver, come back at my running.

It's just a decision-making framework on the drafts. You don't fucking panic in the moment. So we do this exercise and we literally negotiate out of our tiers on fantasyfutball.3.com. Turns out it was good timing because Christian McCaffrey got hurt today.

Geez. So McCaffrey's our number one overall fantasy football player. He's the best, I mean, the best running back in fantasy is one of the best fantasy running backs of all time.

We can get to like actual analysis in a moment. But Craig, do you want to take a moment to just talk about how this sucks? Yeah, this is absolutely brutal. It comes at a terrible time just as people are starting to draft

for fantasy football and obviously it comes at a terrible time for Christian as a human being as well. But for fantasy purposes, this also sucks. And the calf injury is particularly nagging and worrisome. I think if you had to draft soft tissue injuries that I am most concerned about, I think the calf is number one on my board.

I think it's 101. It's the new McCaffrey is the calf. Yeah, it's like, The closer the muscle is to the Achilles, the more worried I am. The more scared you get. And the calf is connected to it. What about ankle? Like a high ankle is not as concerning to you?

I feel like a high ankle is, I'm very worried. Well, that's not a soft tissue, but yeah. Oh, that's true. Yeah, okay. I see what you're saying. I'm a doctor, D.K. I don't know what you guys, does your Instagrams now just have a bunch of like, oh, are you having like calf pain?

Like, you should actually get this like weird hook for your hip to release your so is, like, are you getting that? Or is that just hook? It's like a hook they want in your hip to make your legs feel better. And they've really like narrowed in on me. All I know is that that hip flexibility and glute strength is extremely important to prevent other injuries in your legs. That's what I've seen from the ads. Yeah.

Email soaringer fancy football at gmail.com if you think I should get this. And because of that, we're actually all doing wall sits right now for this entire recording. Hold it. Wait, but I don't think he's, I don't think he's 101 anymore. I don't. No, I honestly have to, yeah. Wow. No, he's not the number one.

You think he is DK? I mean, I don't know. I guess my question is, is it that concerning? Is he really that hurt or is it just precautionary? Can I be a doctor? Yeah, sure. Okay, so here's what I do know. Calf entries suck for a variety of reasons.

One, high risk of re-injury. And then two, there is, as Craig said, a risk of other injuries because of, you know, your neck's not doing the same. So like an Achilles injury, you're at higher risk for a lot stuff. Here's the other problem. It's really, and this is just annoying, forget, Christian McCaffrey. What about us? It's hard for us because it's really hard to put a timeline

on a calf injury because you can test because obviously the guys like you test how you're feeling each day you can test 100,000 ways with your calf what you don't want to do is come back and re-injure it so you start testing okay how much of my mobility do I have back the problem with the calf injury is the

only way you can actually figure out if it's like real or not is the 100th percentile athletic do things you only do in a game and so that's why Kevin Durant hurts his calf goes back to the playoffs and it's like well I'd rather it's because you're not going to be able to like figure it out until you're like going all out. And so

the conservative thing to do is you wait. But none of these guys want to wait because they're athletes. So it's like a real push pole. And the truth is, it's not just that we don't know. They don't know until they go out there. And then you go out there. And guess what? Joe Burrow has 82 passing yards in his first game back for the Bengals from McCaff injury. So I think it's really tough. And the reality is we love McCaffrey at the number one pick in part because he doesn't come off the field. Like they're up 40 points. And Kyle Shannon's setting him out there to get another touch down to keep his 14-game streak alive.

I think that's all out the window. Like part of the, like the upside case from McCaffrey's already done. Like my favorite thing with him, like he's the best merger of talent and scheme and skill set since Moss on the Patriots in 2007. I think that's all out. And so I think that the upside, I don't know with all the injury risk, I don't know if I take him to like, I think it's somewhere between top 12 and top 25 to be totally while you're moving him down that far, huh?

Yeah, because it doesn't, if he doesn't play, it doesn't matter what his name is. Austin Echler was the second or third pick last year. And then he got hurt in high-echospring week two. And then you couldn't have taken him in the top 40 or 50 if you had a choice. It's hard because this can, I mean, this is going to fluctuate every week. Every time we get an update about him, he's going to move. I mean, but it's like right now if you had to draft him, yeah, I don't think he's a first rounder. But in two weeks, if they're like, he's feeling great, he'll easily be back by week one.

Then I think you would probably put it back in the top five. But I do agree right now. I mean, I don't think he's in tier one. He's probably at a minimum in tier two. So I think, yeah, let's start with that. we have to pick a new number one guy. And honestly, like, we're doing this for the first time.

We haven't talked since McAfric got hurt today. So I think we'll figure out. I think tier one now is just guys you could take with the first pick. And I would say it's Breece Hall for the Jets and be John Robinson for the Falcons. I feel like those are the two running backs we love the most. They're both weirdly like on cursed teams with old quarterbacks coming back from an Achilles injuries that are both like aliens who are incredible. And it's kind of just styles makes fights.

Do you want Breeze Hall who incredible stat on Bruce Hall is that he scored more fantasy points in the second half of the season, then every running back except McCaffrey. But he did that, despite the Jets, scored the fewest touchdowns in the NFL. So, like, that's incredible. The Jets weren't even close to the Red Zone for most of the season. I love all the stats about Breeze Hall's rushing attempts inside the five. The Jets gave the ball to a running back one time inside the five-yard line the entire season. They gave the ball to a running back one time inside the five-yard line the entire season. And for context, half of, like two-thirds

of rushing touchdowns are inside the five-yard line. They were the only team that didn't give the ball to a running back from the one. Do you want to hear a couple of running backs last year that had more rushes inside the five-yard line than Reese Hall? Yeah, probably guys I've never heard of. La Michael P. Ryan.

Get out of here. Honestly, off the top of my head, can't remember what team he was playing for. Was it the Chiefs, maybe? Hunter Lukie. Don't know that. That's the Chiefs Fullback? So it's the Cowboys' fullback. I think he's on the Cowboys. Tony Jones. Yeah. Been on a few

teams. He's still in the NFL? No idea in which team he did that for last year. Andrew Beck. Don't know who that is. Not even a running back. Is he a fullback? Andrew back. Oh, he's the Texan guy who caught. He returned the kickoff. The tight end. He returned the kickoff. That's crazy. That's a few. That's a few players in the NFL that had more inside the five yard line carries than Brise Hall, who is one of our favorite fantasy

players of his generation. we love Bruce Hall. So basically the point is with a good offense, in an offense that is going to get him to the goal line, like he could go truly nuclear if he's actually getting goal line looks. Like it's actually absurd

how few looks he got to score touchdowns that close to the end zone. And so I think you're just, the idea is regression to the mean. Obviously with Aaron Jones coming in, this offense is going to run more plays that's going to get inside the five down. Not Aaron Jones.

Aaron Rogers. Sorry, Aaron. Rogers, right? Freudian slip. Yeah, I'm super high on Breece. I love Breeze Hall. He's also one of the best past catching running backs in the NFL. He's super explosive, breaks a ton of tackles. And I think the Jets are going to be willing to give him a lot of touches last year. And Craig, you brought this up. They gave a ball like 30-something times in like a meaningless week 17 game. So fucking stupid. I want to find that just to yell at them again. I think they gave him 37 carries in the week 17. I love that. He had he had he average 20 catches per game after week five, which is when they started playing him

full time because he was ramping up in the first month of the year. And after that, he averaged 20 touches a game. He had 37 rushes and two catches in week 17. That's so crazy. Yeah, the briefs whole argument to be the number one pick is pretty easy. And I think the only guy in contention is Bijon Robinson for the Falcons. It's really simple. It's like he would be Todd Gurley but for the Falcons. It'd be like the Rams Todd Gurley at peak, but on Atlanta. And I feel like those are the two. Like there's no, I have no qual to pick up. By the way, Bijon has almost the exact same problem as Brees last year. I was looking this up.

Bichon Robinson could he could just have more touches inside the five yard line and be the number one running back. I can basically do everything else that he did exactly the same as last year, but just being a good offense. Last year, guess how many rushes from inside the five yard line he had? One fourth as many as Tyler Algier. Two. Like the same as Jonu Smith. John who Smith, the tight end had one. Two.

it's actually crazy how similar these are because it's like it's just Desmond and Ritter to Kirk Cousins, Zach Wilson to Aaron Rogers, how much that's good. Like instead of turning the ball over and inside the red zone, they're going to be scoring. And both these guys, I feel like,

yeah. Also a major offensive lineup grade for Breeze Hall. They were like the one of the worst run blocking teams in the league last year. They drafted Olufashano at number 11 overall in the draft. They brought in Morgan Moses and Tyron Smith. So they were super injured last year as well. I think my, I think they're so good that the only thing I'd say about separating them is the Jets with Brees,

I think there's more confidence that Brees will get a massive workload in New York. And while I don't love Nate Hackett as an offensive coordinator, like there's probably more continuity of just it's what Rogers wants to do. And the Falcons are kind of slapping together in offense in year one. The one thing I'll say, the Falcons line's better. And if the Jets have Tyrone Smith gets hurt again and then like they have Olu Foshana who is a rookie and the line isn't great, I think that that's the only thing. I think Brees Hall might even be better than Bison Robinson, but I will just say, I think Bijon supporting cast is straight up better,

even considering Rogers. I think that's the only thing I'll say. But it's so, it's so one too that we haven't breached Bejohn, but it's. Can you guys name the other running backs on the Jets? Braylon Allen is the backup, I believe. Yep. They had the, uh, is he a bonaconda from last year?

I don't know if he's even in the picture anymore. Like they might actually cut it. They don't have much. There's no Tyler Algier on the Jules. Ty Johnson? No, he's on the bills. He used to be on the Jets. Who else does they got, Craig?

is that it? Braylon Allen, Isaiah Davis. Oh, that's right, yeah. Yeah, and is he a bonaconda.

Okay, let's get to this next tier here and figure out where we're going to slot in Christian McCaffrey. But first, the NFL futures are out, and now is the time

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which would be like, okay, yeah, all right, I see how you got there. And based on our rankings, again, at fantasyfoolt.3.com, I think this tier is Jonathan Taylor for the cults. It's Jamir Gibbs for the Lions. I think you could take him as the third running back if you want. Derek Henry for the Ravens. I mean, Derek Henry being on the Ravens is awesome. Kairn Williams for the Rams.

Like, I think he's... And then we have Devon A Chan for the Dolphins, Sequin Barkley for the Eagles. And then I'm like, I'm curious how big this tier is for you guys. Are you still dropping McCaffrey out of this tier completely? I think McCaffrey's probably in this tier. Yeah, I think he's in this tier as well. I think this is...

I think this is the correct. list for tier two. Here's my question. Yeah, do we expand and put Travis, like, should Travis E.T.N. and Isaiah Pacheco be in this tier two, and it's all one big one, or do we have to split it?

Do you have any qualms with this group of people? I think we need to split this group up into a few tiers personally. Oh. So who are the guys that you think you could take third and you don't think it's a mistake, D.K. I think Christian McCaffrey, Taylor,

Gibbs, and, well, I guess, I would say I'd go all the way to A-chan. So basically, McCaffrey, Taylor, Gibbs, Henry, Kyron, A, Chan. So just cut out Seekwon. So Sequan, I'm losing confidence in just based on the situation that he's in. This group of players, Macafry, Taylor, Gibbs, Henry Williams, A. Chan.

It's like, none of these guys would surprise me if they end up being the RV1 overall in fantasy. I think so many things have to go right for Barclay to get there that I would drop him down a group. That's fine with me. I think he's on the fringe. In my personal rankings, A. Chan and Seekwon are next. and neck. I think the hard part is that if you drop Sequan to tier three, he is now in a category with people like David Montgomery, I don't know, James Cook, Ken Walker. Do we feel like he belongs

with those people? I think we have to do another one. Yeah, I think there would be another tier break. Personally, I would say E.N to Pacheco and Barclay together. Okay. I can see, okay, I actually am okay with that. I think the first of all, I think it's worth explaining the difference between Derek Henry and Sequin because they're both older running backs that went to new teams with Russian quarterbacks. I think what we're saying the difference is, is that Derek Connery's going to get all the goal line carries for Baltimore because Lamar Jackson doesn't actually get him. He's a twig and they don't want to shove him up into the goal line like they do with

Jalen Hertz. And so heard, like, I think Gus Edwards had like 19 touches at the one yard line or two yard line last year. And now Derek Henry's going to get all those. And I'm, I'm torn because part of me still thinks it's like we're overthinking it, where Seekwon is amazing and the Eagles are the best team has ever been. on in his entire life. But I see the argument.

So basically, so we'd say it would be McCaffrey, Taylor Gibbs, Derek Henry as potential the third running back. And we think Kyron's on that list too. I was at Rams Camp this week. How do you feel about Kyron?

Yeah, let's talk about this. Let's talk through it because I think Kyrin. I think he belongs in that. Reading the tea leaves and listening to Sean McVeigh talk about Kyrod Williams. Like he loves him.

He fucking loves that guy. He had the quote that he's like, I would make, he would be his godfather if he had the opportunity to do it kind of deal. You know, like he loves Karen Williams. He probably could become his, Godfather. Do you think Kyron already has a god? I feel like McVeigh could make that happen. Is that a thing

after you turn 18? I don't know. I actually don't know how that works. D.K., if you'd pick one of us to be a godfather, who would you pick? Craig and I? That's a good question. I'm not going to answer that. Coward. I think the better question is who would I make, who would I have you be

Calvin's godfather? Oh yeah, that's a real question. You should pick Craig. Which I'm also not going to ask. Who would you rather adopt me or hyphids? Oh my God. Craig is the answer to all these. Well, you know, it doesn't even matter because you're really basically saying, I mean, Jackie and Liz would do all the work. Let's be honest. You wouldn't trust either of us.

Here's my thing with Kairn Williams is because he wasn't like famous when these happened. He's been hurt a lot. That's my one thing is like his rookie year. He had a foot injury in 2022. Foot injury to a high ankle sprain. And then last year he had an ankle sprain. And then he had another foot injury this off season. So I'm kind of like that's four things to his right foot in two years.

So, but he wasn't famous, so nobody knows that when they take him. And they have Blake Corum. And so I'm wondering if he should be of a Sequin. Like, would you take, but I get it because Kyron was incredible last year, but he was also incredible because he was playing like 95% of the snaps. It's also not the biggest guy in the world. I mean, he's like 5'9, 200 pounds. Not exactly the build for somebody to get 280 touches in each season.

So do you like the idea of doing McAfrey, Taylor, Gibbs, Henry together, and then dropping down a tier from there? McCaffrey Taylor Gibbs Henry. Yeah, well, I don't know. Kyron was so fucking good last year. Like, we don't really talk about it. I mean, he was like by far the number two running back behind McCaffrey. And I'm trying to remember, I want to have a rule this year.

And we're going to talk about this later this month where I'm trying to remember that if you produced and you weren't a high draft pick, just fucking pretend they were high draft pick. Like literally ignore it. Like if like, Amon Ra St. Brown, we all would have been like way better in life if we had pretended Amon Ra was the first rounder after you bowled out. And like if Kyron Williams or Pooka Dukuwa was a Puka, we moved down because he's hurt already. But like I, that's the thing I'm trying to remember is. Right. If Kieran was the 10th pick in the draft in 2022.

If he was Kamakers. I think Kyrin, we're disrespecting Kairn too much. I think Kyran should be in tier two. But Saekwan isn't. I think there's way more question marks around Sequin than Kireen, to be honest. And what about A-chan? Where's A-chan fit in this whole thing? A-Chan's in his own tier.

I thought we decided that. Oh, he's in his own tier? We have a rule. Every position needs to have one guy who's in his own tier. Because A. Chan is the most unique player in the league where he could easily be the number one running back in fantasy. And he could also probably be like 18th. And I honestly, and that's if even he's like fully healthy because of how much, we don't know how much they're going to include Rahim Mostert or use Rahim Mostert. Hyvitz, you made a great point on the other episode about like week one, like immediate regret after week one.

And I think A-chan is the leader of that category where if it's like the third quarter of week one and A-chan has 14 carries for 109 yards and two touchdowns, you're just like, I'm so stupid, why the fuck would I drafts Akewan Barclay over this guy? We need a term for it. Like, I don't know if it's post-nut clarity or what, but it's just like basically there's things in week one that if they happen, you'll be like whatever.

It's like post-nut clarity because you didn't nut. It's like no nut regret. It's like why did I text that? Oh, it's like double or triple text? I don't know. But basically, yeah, because I think with A. I think with A. Chan, like, there's a ton that could go wrong. Like, he could be the Gabe Davis thing where it's just the idea of him in three good games.

There's injury concerns. He's small. Fast cars, like, are in the shop for a long time. Like, he's injury concerns. Also, Mike McDaniel just might not want to use him that much because it's better to use him in small portions because that's how you can get the most out of him. Exactly. He'll probably never have 20 touches a game.

No. He'll probably never, he might not ever ever average 16 or 18 in his life. Like, Rahim Oster's still there. They drafted Jalen Wright. A. Chan's saying rights ahead of where he was as a rookie. There's a lot of things that could go wrong with A. Chan. I think that the thing is, it's easy to be like, well, he averaged like eight, like nine yards of carry. If he was a quarterback, that'd be like a quarterback averaging 15 yards of pass.

Like obviously it's easy to be like, well, that won't happen again. And he scored all these touchdowns. I think the other, the real question to ask is, okay, like, do you think, what are the odds that you think Devon A. is actually just going to go down as one of the best fantasy players ever per touch, literally ever per touch. and like I think it's certainly possible. I feel good about it. Yeah. So I'm kind of like basically we're like,

is this guy the outlier of outliers? And I think honestly, I don't even feel like we need a take on it because if you're listening to this, you probably already know. Either you're like, oh, so this might be like literally one of the best fantasy players

in this year of fantasy. I want him or some people are listening to this and like, oh, so you had one good year and there's five things that could go wrong. Like I feel like your personal risk aversion will lead you to him. But like in general, like I don't know, shout to Scott Barrett.

like fantasy is not the stock market. You're not trying to grind out a return. Like you need to win or like you don't really remember it. And so first, you're last. A-chan is just one of those people that like, to Craig's point, if he just is as good as last year,

it will be hard to win without him. Do you guys worry that, I mean, look, is he going to average seven yards of carry? No. I would say no. I think he kind of needs to catch a bit more passes

to kind of lift up his floor. And it's funny, Speaking of Scott Barrett, he put out a great tweet a couple days ago about Jemir Gibbs and Devon Achan, basically from week 10 on after David Montgomery returned for the Lions. Jamir Gibbs and Devon A. Chan basically had the exact same touch total. 11 carries four targets, four Red Zone opportunities. But Jamir Gibbs, I'm much more confident is going to be used a lot in the passing game, especially from everything we've read in the off season.

They're basically using him as a receiver half the time. Are you a little worried that if A chain regresses back to like elite? because right now he's in super elite territory. Even if he just regresses down to elite running the ball, do you fear that he's not going to be as utilized in the passing game and it actually might limit his upside? Yeah, I mean, this is a really good chance. He's a terrible pick.

Like, I think there's a really good chance that he can get 11 touches a game and to your point, like merely just average, like just come down to like really, really good. Because he was not a great receiver last year. He didn't do a lot, I should say, in the receiving game. He scored on like half his carries inside the 10 or something too. I basically, I feel like we're ranking him in the top. because he should either be in the top five

or the top one like 120. And we're trying to, it's really hard to middle the highest player. He's the most volatile player ever because he also could just tweak his knee one more time and then he's useless for the rest of the season. His whole thing is speed.

He's in his own tier. There's no one like, he's the Kyle Pitt. Basically the question is H. Shannon's either going to be like the Tyree kill of running backs as D.K. described. Like he can be Tyree kill.

He breaks all these numbers. He breaks real football. He's unbelievable. He also can just be Kyle Pitts. where we just talk about upside, upside, and you're like, wow, I kind of want to cut this guy. He doesn't do anything if he tweaks his knee or anything. It's just so crazy that he has the chance to be like one of the biggest busts

and fantasy and also maybe the best player in the league. Yeah. Just the whole time, you guys are just, just worry warts. Just fucking lead into it. He's everything, every time we touched the football last year is electric. He did,

he did things we haven't seen from any running back since like Alvin Camara and Jamal Charles. And all we could. talk about is all the shit that he might like he might get hurt. Yeah, okay, that's fine. This is like one of the most exciting players in fantasy in years. I love this guy. I'm all in. I'm not worried about it.

The bell curve meme. Yeah, exactly. He's the perfect fit in this offense. We've heard only good things at training camp, like incredible amounts of hype out of training camp. They're using them all over the field in different ways. Put on some weight. Put on a little bit of weight. He knows the offense a little bit

more. Rehomoster 32 years old. Like, history of injuries, there's so many things that could go right for Achan, too. I feel like you guys are just so risk-averse with him specifically. I just think, I find it a little bit bizarre. I mean, I understand I'm the eternal optimist with most of these player injury situations. But the reward is so much better. Like, get him 15 touch.

He only needs 15 touches a game. He could be the RB1. You're saying that your adopted sons, the Zillennials are snowflakes. I mean, honestly, Devon A-chan is kind of like, you are kind of a godfather of fantasy to Devon he was your guy heading into the draft two years ago. I stick my reputation on him a little bit too much probably prior to last year. I was like obsessed with this guy. I kept talking about him constantly.

Every podcast I went on, I was like, Devon A. Chan. The first preseason game, he was like fifth in the rotation for them. I was like, fuck. This isn't going well. And then the regular season comes around and he is doing things we haven't seen from like any running back ever. You know what I mean? Like it's him and Jamal Charles, yards per carry.

he's like second in miss tackles force per attempt last year. He averaged more yards before contact and after contact than any running back in the NFL last year. Like what he's doing is actually insane. And I just want to enjoy it. And you guys are bumming me out once again. Before we move on, do the Talladega thing. I love when the guys go back.

All right. There's a chin. Okay. So we're saying tier one is Breeze Hall for the Jets, Bejohn Robinson, the Falcons. Tier two is somewhere we're going to put. Christian McCaffrey for 49ers, Jonathan Taylor for the Colts, Jamir Gibbs for the Lions,

Derek Henry for the Ravens, Kyron Williams for the Rams, and then we're giving its own tier to Devon A. Chan for the Dolphins. Love it. I would take McCaffrey right around Kyron, personally. That's where I would take them.

I would take those other guys, though. We'll see how healthy it gets. Next tier we have, I think, is it would be Seekwon Barkley for the Eagles, Travis E. Etienne for the Jags,

and Isaiah Pacheco for the Chiefs, who I would put all those guys as like potential three-down backs with questions. Where Sequin is the three-down back with, okay, but like, is he going to get goal line work or is Jalen Hurts going to steal it all? Travis ETN is like a three-down back, but like, do the Jags even like him? I feel like Doug Peterson.

Oh, I think they like him. Do they? They gave him 267 carries last year. They like it more than Tank, what's his name? Biggsby. Biggsby. But they just seem like keep disappointing that tank can't take more carriers from ETS. Yeah, because they don't want, I mean, they don't want to give, they don't want to have to

have him take 267 carries again. It's just asking for injuries, obviously, wear and tear. I think this is like a group of post-type sleeper type players, Barclay, ETSN, Pacheco, or maybe just call him the Glansburgs, because I feel like we haven't talked about ETIN or Pacheco very much this off-season,

and both of those guys feel like massive values for me just because they're going to get tons of volume. You talk about a week one guy, I look at Isaiah Pacheco for the Chiefs, and I'm like, he's the ultimate if he was a first rounder, like if he was glad I had it or the length, Edward Zalier. Like, he was basically six

unexpected fantasy points last year. Pacheco's started running back for the Chiefs. The Chief's offense is better. They have Hollywood Brown. Like Rishi Rice will come back at some point. They drafted Xavier Worthy.

All those guys will make the offense better. Pacheco is the starter. And Andy Reid was asked this week because Jarek McKinn's been getting the receiving work and Pacheco was kind of the first two downs. McKinnon would do passing work. Andy Reid was at and now McKinnon's dust.

And Reed was asked who's going to play the three-down role or passing work. And he's like, Pacheco can do that now. And Clyde. And I feel like Pacheco's like maybe a three-down guy Clyde's going to spell him, but Pacheco's the guy. And honestly, the reason he's being discounted is because he runs weird. And like, he has this labor issue, but also just, I, like, I just think that we didn't see it really until the playoffs.

But I don't know. I mean, there's a chance they tone him down through regular season, ramp them up in the playoffs. But I think Pacheco is like sneakily, like, he's a week one guy too, where if you saw it in week one, you'd like, oh, my God, what were we thinking? But I think Seque Juan E. T and Pacheco makes sense. I think Seque one maybe could be higher, but I think this tier makes sense. Pacheco to me is a sneaky, sneaky pick. I really like that one a lot. Like if he was anybody different,

if he had been drafted even in like the third round, imagine how excited we'd be about him. You know what I mean? He basically has no competition in that backfield on a great offense. I think he's very solid. I think he's properly ranked. Like I don't think I would consider taking him over any of the guys we've mentioned above him.

And yet I feel like he is perfectly ranked where he is. Okay, so next tier here. So that tier is Sequin, Aetian, Pacheco. Next tier here. This is basically just veterans with questions. And you guys tell me where this should end. I don't know. This could be four or we're 14.

I don't know. Joe Mixon for the Texans who honestly, we should probably move him down. Joe Mixon has not practiced yet. Like he has his hamstring injury. Has it practiced? Look, it's August 6th. There's a month to the regular season.

Like, he can get over hamstring injury. But it's like notable that he hasn't practiced at all in training camp. Like that's not great. Then we have Josh Jacobs for the Packers. Kenneth Walker for the Seahawks. And we, I think we should tweak some of these rankings too. I'd rather have Walker than mix it at this point. But Mixing Jacobs Walker.

James Connor for the Cardinals, James Cooks for the Bills, David Montgomery for the Lions. I would end it there, but then we have Rashad White, Alvin Camara, Rahim Mosterd, Aaron Jones. How deep should this go? I think we got to move Camara up based on some of the injury situations that have happened for the Saints. Move Camara into this group.

Yeah. I think it's hard not to combine every single name you just mentioned if it's, to be honest. I don't know. Looking at Rahim Mosterd, who was like a top three running back in fantasy last year, led the league in touchdowns. And there's really no difference in that what that offense is going to be. Daniel is still very big on Rahim Oster. Rashad White was the top 10 guy last year.

Similar situation. They have a new play caller, and they drafted a running back. Aaron Jones is on a new team, but I think he's another week one guy where it's like, look, there's only Ty Chandler on the Vikings other than Aaron Jones. Right. And they're not going to have T.J. Hawkinson. They're going to have either Sam Darnel or J.J. McCarthy. I think there's a much larger opportunity for like checkdowns.

Aaron Jones is still playing really well. he doesn't have a lot of touches under his belt. And I still think he's a great player. A lot of the underlying metrics with him look good. Like, I kind of feel like he is right there with a James Connor, James Cook. So I kind of think there's just one big category, to be honest. Yeah. Like, I don't think Aaron Jones is in a different tier than Ken Walker.

I think the concern with Aaron Jones is that Aaron Jones is quietly kind of old. Like Aaron Jones is 30. He's turning 30 this year. But also he's a smaller guy and he's just had like so many hamstring injuries. I think my issue is like, what are the odds that Aaron Jones can make it through his season on Skate. I'm pretty low. Like, it's been a minute.

So that's my one concern. Whereas I think the question would be, should Aaron Jones be in a tier with James Cook, who maybe is somewhat similar a player? He's not as good of a runner as Aaron Jones. Or like Ken Walker, who it's kind of awesome for Seattle, but it's way younger. Is that a mistake? I don't hate it. Like, I think that by the definition of a tier of like, you could take these guys

in any order. I mean, we have a pretty big gap between like Josh Jacobs and Aaron Jones. Like, that's my concern. But like Josh Jacobs is going to be in a rotation too. I think that all of these guys, there's a big enough question mark with each of them, that it wouldn't shock me if you took any of them in any different order. Like if you took Rashad White over Josh Jacobs, I would have no problem with that. I understand where that's coming from.

I understand you're chasing the volume. If you took Kenneth Walker over all these guys, I also would have no problem with that. If you took James Connor over all these guys. And Montgomery, I mean, he was a top 10 guy last year. He scores a million touchdowns. Camara, not much competition. This offense could get a lot better. They're changing schemes.

James Cook, he's another guy that we haven't talked about. Can we talk about James Cook? I think he's flying really under the radar as like a really potentially good fantasy pick this year. Especially if you look at his stats after Joe Brady took over last year. Like their offense changed a lot. They become much more run heavy. He finished from a week out 11 on after Joe Brady took over the range of offensive play calling. He averaged 15 points per game and half pvr.

And he averaged almost 20 touches a game. And he did that with a 53% snap rate. So it's not like he was, you know, in every snap. There's a lot of meat on the bone for him potentially even have more than that, depending on how they, you know, use their rotation of running backs. And so I think Cook is an interesting one,

especially in leagues that, you know, PPR and half PBR just because he has that past catching upside too. And he had like three or four. I know this is a negative necessarily, like partially, but also, you know, maybe there's a regression to the mean here. He dropped a few would be touchdowns. I remember. there's some really, really frustrating plays

where he was like running down the sideline wide open and he just dropped it. So maybe he catches those passes this year, you know? Yeah, it's a fine line between unlucky and bad. Right, right. I think he's good. I like him. I think he has talent.

I agree. We haven't really talked about James Cook at all. I've always been out on him. I was out on him last year because I'm like, look, Josh Allen is the goal line back in this offense. And it's been the case every single year. I mean, even last year, James Cook was 26th in rushes in goal-to-go situations. but with that said, they started to run the ball way more.

They obviously let Stefan Diggs go. They basically didn't replace him. I think they're going to kind of shift more towards a power run style offense. Two tight ends, that's a lot more. So I actually do think James Cook, although I've been out on him for a while, like this is by far the best situation he's been in in his career. I don't think James Cook has the vision between the tackles to be getting the ball inside the five-yard line. I think that's like Ray Davis.

Frankly, the rookie the drafted might get that guy. He's not big and I don't think he's great, great vision. And they always have a big guy to go. I mean, they have Latavius Murray. They had Damian Harris. There is always like a thunder to match the lightning of James Cook. And so I think you're betting on the lightning as like the bills don't have a ton of receivers. And if you don't believe me about Dalton Kincaid, then like it would be James Cook is like, oh, he's one of their best receivers.

I think that's the outcome for him. I just don't like the guys that can't score touchdowns. Like it's like, oh, he's receiver. He's going to get a lot of touches, a lot of yards. I'm like, how many touchdowns is he going to score? That's where I, that's where I agree. I'm kind of out on James Cook. I don't like him for that reason.

He just scored two last year. and I'm like, I don't think the bills want him on the field when they're trying to score. Okay, next tier, which are also kind of veterans with questions, but I think there's a worse outlook on him. Remandre Stevenson for the Patriots, DeAndrester for the Bears, Jalen Warren and Najee Harris for the Steelers, Zemir White for the Raiders,

who's kind of the adopted son of Antonio Pierce, you know, he's basically the godfather there. Zach Moss for the Bengals. That's this next tier. Is there anyone you would have add to this or like, you okay with this tier? I kind of think, you could add Brian Robinson to this, I think. And I'd be fine with it. Do we want to add a Chargers running back to this?

Or do we still not think? JK? So the next tier, I realized as we were doing this, that our rankings, I realized we had, I'm just going to go through these injuries involved in the next guys. We have, well, Brian Robinson Jr. hasn't been hurt, but he was shot right before the season. You have Gus Edwards, who's 29 towards ACL, not that long ago. Giovante Williams towards ACL.

Tony Pollard broke his leg last year. Austin Ackler had a high ankle sprain. Devin Singletary just runs like he's old, but like he's not. is Zeke Elliott who I mean I talked to him today and he really like he's Lex. Dude, Zeke is like the old guy at your pickup game

that he keeps talking about yeah, I'm going to quit one day. Like I don't know how much longer I could do this. Oh God. I literally asked him Is that right? What did he say? I asked him why Rico Dattle is getting first team reps. Is that because he's going to play more? Is that because you don't need the reps? Like because you know the offense? And he's like, yeah, I don't

need the reps because my body doesn't need the reps. My body, I'm I'm just trying to be healthy. Like he just sounded so tired and he barely played. It was tough. But he's there. And then with Taj Spears, who has like an arthritic knee or no ACL or whatever, Chase Brown, who's fine for the Bengals. And Jonathan Brooks, who was a rookie out of Texas on the Carolina Panthers recovering from ACL.

So you're like 10 guys in a row who are all recovering from some various sort of injury. And like, I don't know, which of the, do we lump all those guys in with the Ramonj Swift, Warren Harris, and Muir White Moss. It's just all guys in like these ambiguous two-down roll or receiving work. It's like a weird mix of like goal line guys, like short yardage dudes who can't. catch receiving guys who may not get goal line work. Like, I don't know, maybe JK Dobbin should be in this injury tier. I don't know.

He should be. I feel like we take Brian Robinson and put him in there with the Ramandre Swift. Do you want Brian Robinson though? Like, because I feel like Austin Echler, but Austin Eccler could get goal line work. Here's what I'll say about this, this group that Hyvitz put together or that he just listed, Stevenson, DeAndre Swift, Jalen Warren, Najee Harris, and Zemir White, Zach Moss. One thing that all these guys have going for then that the other group below kind of doesn't is they're either going to get the bulk of the carries. or they're going to be in a very good rushing offense.

Ramandre, D'Andre Swift, Zemir White, and Zach Moss are all probably going to get the heavy majority of the workload. And then Najee Harris and Jalen Warren, you know, in an Arthur Smith offense theoretically are going to be on one of the best running teams in the league.

Once you start getting into like, Ryan Robinson is mixing with Austin Eckler, but are they going to be one of the best rushing teams in the league? Maybe not. Giovante Williams. Who knows what's going on there coming off the injury? Tony Pollard on the Titans mixing with Tajay Spears. Gus Edwards is the ultimate.

only one where I'm like, maybe you could put him in this category because of how much they're going to run in L.A. Maybe we just leave it how it is. I think maybe we were just right the first time. The only one I'm like, and about it is Zach Moss. I like, but now the borough thing's freaking me out. I'm like, what I do I actually want Zach Moss? There's also a lot of hype right now. And we might have to move our rankings around after we get a little more confirmation on this. But like Chase Brown is getting the first team reps in Bengals camp. Yeah, I think we should move Zach Moss down. Like Zach Moss may just end. up being sort of one of those

like sorry I've got to bring it up like the Mike Davis types where people are expecting him to be the starter and then he's just not Yeah I think that's I think that's fair And also Zach the other thing is Zach Oh also wait this is huge So Zach Moss was signed in part because Yeah Zach Moss was signed in part because he's good

From shotgun because Joe Burrow likes to run shotgun And I think a concerning thing happening with the Bengals is this wrist injury Which I won't shut up about but Joe Burrow won't throw football three days in a row because he's this really weird wrist injury that quarterbacks don't have and he can't find another quarterback who's at it. And it's not just my word for it.

The Bengals are doing more drop back, like under center, rollout, play action offense, which Burrow doesn't want to do for the same reason that Rathusberger hasn't wanted to do it. Peyton Manning didn't want to do it. There's nothing wrong with it, but basically some quarterbacks don't want to take their eyes off the defense.

They don't care about the deception of play action. They'd rather never take their eyes off. They don't want to look, turn around, look back, and something's changed. They'd rather keep eyes on it. You know, I got to say something about that. Totally understandable. I get it.

I wouldn't want to turn my back. to the defense either. Yeah, no, I get it. Because maybe that's how you get your wrist injured. I don't know. But here's the thing I'll say. The Bengals have let Burrow kind of dictate that. The Bengals are kind of changing their offense,

which makes me wonder if they don't think they should be relying on Burr- like it makes me wonder if they are questioning whether they'll be able to rely on Burrow for the whole season, whereas last year Jake Browning came and they started doing different stuff. I kind of wonder if the Bengals, basically, to that point, I don't know if Zach Moss, Zach Moss was brought in for a Joe Burrow offense. And now I feel like Chase Brown might be a better fit for like what they're doing now if they do more like under center stuff. That makes sense. That's interesting. That's interesting. He's also way way more more explosive. Chase Brown is yeah. Elite athlete. Zach Moss is more of like a plotting type. But it's still so uncertain. I don't feel confident like putting Chase Brown super high. I think he's a really sneaky like sleeper right now. Should that be a badge at fantasy football.com plotter. That should be a badge. Plot. You should that plot. You should that plot. Go see plodding along. Anyway. Okay. So this is a really. Okay. So this is.

is a, all right, so we've got that tier there. So we're doing, are we doing, Ramandre Swift, Warren, Naji, Zemir White is like kind of vets without the massive injury questions. And then we have like other old vets, but like with way more injury questions, basically. It's like a big simplistic way to look at it. Yeah.

The remandry tier is like the last guys, you'd be okay starting on your team. All right. I think we're going to come back and tweak a lot of this, but we'll have our updated rankings at Fantasyfibble. Dot the Ray.com later this week. Okay. Next I have exciting youngsters plus Nick Chubb,

whatever's going on there. Right. And J.K. Dobbins. So it's Trey Benson for the Cardinals who could overtake James Connor, maybe later the season, Nick Chubb, who would just, I keep hearing he'll be back and I'm kind of like, what does that mean? Jerome Ford for the Browns, we put right next to Chubb, which is what we do when we have no idea what to do with this team.

We put them back to back. It's just, that's just how we do it. J.K. Dobbins for the charges, who I've moved up a lot, and I actually think maybe should be even higher because I think he's going to play. Chuba Hubbard for the Panthers, I think he's going to be the starter in the first half of the season for the Panthers. And then Blake Horm for the Rams, we've got him here as a guy that could rotate in. Just guys with, you know, I think those for various reasons, like high upside dudes.

Yeah. High upside guys and handcuffed type players. Do you think that Rico Dowdle deserves to be in this group just because everything you just said about. I guess. Zichael Elliott. You're making me worried about my Zeckel Elliott sleeper claim. No, I left thinking Zika is still a sleeper. I think that Zika is not going to get a ton, like he's not going to get 80% of the work.

like he used to. Right, right, right. Here's the thing, though. I think Zique is going to keep himself healthy for the whole season, and he might play 60% of the snaps, but it's all the important ones. I think Zick is going to get all the goal line work, because that's what he's best at.

And I also think Zique will be on the field for the obvious passing situations, because Washington today, like, they can't block without him. Like, Zika's weird thing is, like, he's, like, maybe the best blocking running back in the NFL or he's up there. And, like, Tyler Guyton and Terrence Steel

at tackle for the Cowboys could not block Michael Parsons. Like they could not block them. The only thing that worked was, no, but you need Zeke. Zeke stood him up. Like, Zeke could stand up Michael Parsons, you know,

coming around the edge. But like, I don't think that with, like, you know, they have Tyler Geithner, a rookie left tackle or Terran Steel.

I don't think they're going to have Rico Dowdell protecting DAC in a contract year. Like, that's what Zeke's for. So he's going to be the gun going out for routes and blocking. So I think Zeke is still going to get all the important downs.

You guys think in this late tier, just to add a few other, Do you think, like, Tyler Algier should potentially be in this tier? I think he's like that, there used to be like the elite handcuffs where someone went down. Like, it used to be like Matt Azata for the Vikings or like, you know, there used to be like. Just the touchdown. If something happens to Peterson. And I think that Tyler Algier is like, if something happened to Bijat, like, something happened to Breeze Hall for the Jets.

No one person to Breeze Hall. If Bejohn Robinson gets hurt, Tyler Al Jail can probably do all that stuff. Tyler Algier can be 80% of what Bejohn Robinson is. Right. And so I think Algier is should probably be. be in there, yeah. Yeah, he's kind of the only one that I, that was standing out to me as somebody who should be with this group with like, like,

Blake Corum and Trey Benson. We could put Doudal there too. I think that's fine to put Daudill in too for the Cowboys. Zach Charbonnet for the Seahawks is on there. The other thing I was going to say about, that's fine. The Seahawks backfield is there has been, because I've, this offseason I've been a little bit agnostic about the Seahawks

backfield because I love Kenneth Walker. Like, that's my bias. I think he's really explosive. One of the better just pure runners in the NFL, but I don't have any clue or I didn't until recently have any clue that who the Seahawks really like. You know, this is a new coaching staff. Mike McDonald wasn't a part of the team

when they drafted Kenneth Walker. Maybe he's like, you know, doesn't have any loyalty to him. Maybe Charbonnet is more of a downhill guy that's like a better fit for this Ryan grab offense. There's a lot of ifs in trying to project the Seahawks backfield. But I will say over the last week,

a couple of guys that have gone, a couple of big time reporters that have gone to Seahawks camp have come away thinking Kenneth Walker is like far in a way the guy. Fowler from ESPN and Albert Breer from Sports Illustrated both wrote in their columns from Seahawks camp that like the Seahawks are super excited about Kenneth Walker. He's like potential to be a three down guy for them. You know,

I think Charbonnet is in the picture, but more viewed as sort of like a backup or rotational type guy. So I'm starting to get more excited about Kenneth Walker and less excited about Zach Charbonnet. So that's the one thing I'll add about the Sharbonnet thing is I think he has a ton of contingent upside. if Walker goes down, Sharbonne's, you know, he could be an RB1 or like a high-end RB2 if Walker was injured.

But, you know, I think he's maybe more viewed as like a backup type guy now with this new coaching staff. I don't know. So the next tier here is just basically dart throws at backfields. We don't totally know or understand either guys that have upside or just guys that we think could get touches. Basically, Broncos, Jaliel McLaughlin and Audrick Estime for the Broncos. We'll see what happens there behind Javante Williams.

I like Javenti Williams, actually. Marshall and Lloyd for the Packers. who's the rookie at a USC who maybe behind Josh Jacobs. Elijah Mitchell, 49, he's going to say, hamstring injury. Maybe we move him down. Antonio Gibson for the Patriots. Tide Chandler on the Vikings, as Craig mentioned, Kendry Miller for the Saints already hurt.

We probably want to move him down because Dennis Allen, the coach clearly hates him. And Cleal Herbert for the Bears. Damien Pierce for the Texans, who they kind of hate him too, but he's been better and Mixins hurt. Yeah. But maybe they want to trade Damien Pierce, but I honestly, I kind of think Damien Pierce could be good no matter what.

Buckierving for the Bucks, which nominative determinism. Ray Davis for the bills, who actually kind of think might get the goal line work eventually. Roshan Johnson also for the Bears Jalen Wright who's like the Devon A. Chan of Rahim Mosterts basically and then Tank Bigsby who is behind E.T.N. But the Jaggs can ever see to play. I keep trying to make Tank happen.

Yeah. AJ Dylan for the Packers who's kind of dust and I wouldn't take. Camani Vidal, who I love for the Chargers, but honestly I went to charges camp. Going to move him down. He shouldn't be here. Miles Sanders thought he retired. Did he just get like no carries? Why are you changing your tune on and now so much? He was fine. He's a six rounder who was fine and then he got hurt. Like that doesn't work.

Like you have to pop. And then, yeah, then collide for the chiefs. But like, yeah, so that's fine. We'll move some of these guys down. Yeah, as we start to get like the better picture of the depth charts for these teams, I'm sure there's going to be a lot of shifting in our rankings. But all of these right now are just essentially dart throw handcuff types. Cool.

Of all the, of everyone we've talked about my favorite guy relative to ADP is Pacheco. Do you guys know who it is for you? Pacheco is a really good one. I feel like I've had a blind spot for him. just because of his running style. But I think he, yeah, he's going to get a ton of volume. He's in a really good offense. He doesn't have much competition.

I like that one a lot. Craig, who do you got? I think I'm going to go with Jalen Warren. Steelers. Yeah. I'm going to stay true to my brand and just Kenneth Walker is so much better than people think. So you guys just pick your team's at your favorite team.

I just really like my team. The Homer picks. I just really like the guys on my team. All right. Let's do some emails real quick. First of all, last episode. we talked about, I mentioned that there was a dumb lawsuit between Apple and Samsung where Apple trademark swiping and then Samsung made a tap on their phone to unlock it and Apple sued them

because a tap is a swipe of zero length, which is insane. So we got this email from Aaron. Aaron. Aaron. You like big dumb lawsuits. The Ohio Supreme Court recently decided that boneless wings can have bones. What is the legal? Legally's around this. It's kind of an awful story. Basically, this guy was at a wing eating contest, but it was a boneless wing eating contest. So he like was housing boneless wings. Just like inhaling him. And he ate one that had a one and a half inch bone in the in the chicken. And he, he almost died like, you know, like it's a big chicken bone. Right. You know, went a hole through sasophagus. He had to be put in a medically induced coma twice. Like it was like, he almost

died. He sued. And Ohio was like, no, no, no, boneless wings can have bones legally. Like, why would you expect that idiot? I was not expecting the story to end that way. What? Yeah, It was crazy. He, like, why? What is their legal definition of the word boneless? Justice Joseph T. Deter. I don't really understand. I've read this paragraph four times and I don't really get it.

A diner reading, quote, boneless wings in a menu would no more believe, no more believe that the restaurant was warranting the absence of bones and the items than believe that the items were made from chicken wings just as a, that's, why do they write like this? That doesn't even make any sense. You know why they write like this so they can confuse people so they can win cases? So he's like, I don't even understand that sentence.

restaurant was warranting the absence of bones and the items that then believe the items were made from chicken wings is as believable as a person eating chicken fingers would know that he had not been served fingers. That's a state Supreme Court thing. Hey, yeah, yeah. Dude, what are we doing? I don't know. Yeah, this is hurting my brain. I'm really trying to it. I know. I was just going to say the same thing, Craig. I'm like, this is why I just don't, I don't engage in these stories. Yeah. There's so many lawyers who

listen to the show, email some of your fantasy football at Gmail. Why do you guys write like this? Explain that. So somebody is no more likely to believe that a restaurant is warranting the absence of bones than believe that the items

were made from chicken wings. That doesn't make any sense because there are boneless chicken wings. That's like an option at places. And they're also made from like chicken breast, aren't they? They're not even wings. It's like, of course, you would

just ordering something without bones in it. I feel like that. This is the pasta salad. Even Dika admitted that there was pasta in the pasta salad. It's like, they're called bones. I guess because they're basically saying, look, if wing is in the title of the item,

you have to assume there could be bone in it. If there's no bone, you've got to call it a chicken nugget or something. But they're not even made from wings, aren't they? They're like they call them boneless wings, but they're chicken breasts. They're chicken breasts. 100%.

They are. I mean, it makes no sense. There should not be bones in a boneless wing because it's chicken breast. That's crazy. But I guess maybe they should just call them chicken nuggets. It should be a chicken nugget eating contest, not a boneless wing in it.

Honestly, Boleness wing in general is a stupid phrase. Why is it called that? It's like general says chicken. They're just selling chicken nuggets to adults but who don't want to, who want chicken nuggets but don't want to admit they're eating chicken nuggets.

Yeah, it feels juvenile to say, I'd like an order of chicken nuggets, but to say boneless wings, I guess sounds better. This is the middle ground. For everyone listening, because I'm sure there are a lot of people listening who eat boneless wings.

Here's my breakdown very simply. I think people who I love chicken wings on the bone. If you eat chicken wings, boneless, and people shame you because you like boneless wings. I think that's wrong. I don't think people should be shamed because you'd rather have boneless wings than bone wings.

Having said that, we can also admit that they're chicken nuggets. It's not like eating chicken nuggets, DK. It is eating chicken nuggets. I'm fine with that, actually. Yeah. I have no problem with that. Let's just call them chicken nuggets and be done with this.

100%. So we're agreeing with this judge, essentially. Yeah. Well. Because he's saying to protect the company, if it says wings, you should assume there's bones in it. There should be a new state law that if you have boneless wings,

they need to be rebranded as chicken nuggets. and then those chicken nuggets are not allowed to have bones in them. Well, nuggets go through the meat grinder like McDonald's. They're honestly like chicken chunks. That's really what we're talking about here. That doesn't really roll off the tongue. Is that right? Are all nuggets ground chicken or are some just chunks?

You remember when they were like starting to advertise? They started to advertise proudly that it was actually chicken. Dude, that's horrific. Don't get me started on those places. It's actually chicken. Chick-fil-A has chunks of chicken, but they still call them nuggets. Yes. Yeah, because we'll not pull those wings.

Yeah. Anyway. Next up here. Okay. So we got no worry with that one. Nope. Well, neither did the state the Supreme Court. I don't know.

I see both sides of it. Yeah. See all sides of it. All right. Next up. Olympics. Olympics. Olympics.

We were talking about if our life depended on winning like a bronze medal in a summer Olympic sport. I had a feeling this would create some passionate response. So winter we would obviously pick curling. So we were like summer Olympic sport. would you pick. I love that we're all, everyone's like, yep, curling.

Well, on that note, actually, I'll just start there. I have bad news. Uh-oh. Curling is hard? Email from Derek. Damn it. News slash. Is he an Olympic curler?

Derek. Sorry to say, you guys could never make the Olympics in curling. Yeah. I'm surprised. You didn't know that Jared Allen has been trying to make the Olympics and curling for like years, like the all pro defensive end, Jared Allen, who's like a borderline hall famer.

He's a decent athlete. Jared Allen was able to join a decent curling team, which is a big enough battle. in itself, and even then his team was one and six at the U.S. championships this year. Curling teams do have a fifth player, so maybe Jared Allen has a shot at making as a fifth. But unlike you guys, he used to be a world-class

athlete, and he's big and strong, so he could probably be a very effective sweeper, but he will struggle to be as consistent as shooter as people who've played the game for decades. Jared Allen can't make it in curling in the Olympics. That's like, Jared Allen's like 6-5. This guy is on the U.S. curling team. Dude, dude, he was bored.

He was bored. What if I just have a knack? for curling. You never know. Well, this guy John Schuster clearly does. Yeah, just a knack. You're telling me Jared Allen can't beat out John Schuster? Come on. Should we throw this up on Spotify?

Yeah, throw it up on Spotify. That's, dude, okay, you listen to a spot-up Bible through John Schuster's bio. To be clear, for the record. I'm not disparaging. All of us are aware. That is very hard. We're just saying if I had to pick a sport

that I had the best shot. Can we up it? Can me up it? Yeah. It's not just your life depends on it. It's like the future of the world depends on it. Like, it's a space race. It's like all of humanity's trying to help you, like, do this. Can you actually beat everyone?

So the other one, this one's from Harrison. Harrison. Harry! All right. I may have made out of the first one I said was maybe I could do the rowing. Right. And I, well, I shot you down pretty quickly. Well, yeah, so Harrison says, love you guys, love the show.

Rohing is great. But I'm listening to your Monday show and you guys are fucking idiots. Harris is like, as a collegiate rower, let me tell you, rowing's one of the hardest sports you could ever do. It's fucking hard. He says, do you research. Those dudes are freaks. Yeah.

These guys are rowing anywhere from four to six hours a day. The best collegiate athletes row anywhere from 30 to six hours a day, damn. 30 or 40 kilometers a day. There was some research done not too long ago that the standard Olympic rowing course, I don't know, 2000 meters, burns the same amount of calories as playing two full-length NBA basketball games back to back. And you do that in six minutes. That's how much calories you burn doing rowing. I can't remember.

Who said rowing? Was it high fits that wanted to do the rowing? Then Craig and I were like, no. You're out of your mind. Yeah. But also, I said something about canoeing, which is probably super fucking hard. Which is like rowing, but you're alone and there's actually trees you can hit and die. Yeah, yeah.

So anyway, rowing's out. Yeah, no, that makes sense. Also. It's shooting. Didn't we? Shooting. Have we landed on that? It's shooting in the summer Olympics?

It's handball. What are you guys talking about? It's shooting. No, it's not handball. Have you guys watched the fucking? fucking handball. It's a handball. Somebody just tweeted this at me. Look at this guy shooting. Yeah. He's got his hand in his

pocket. He's just literally just standing here and shooting with one hand. And he got the silver metal. Dude, it's handball. No. What are you talking about with handball? You guys are saying you can shoot better than people. What are you talking about? If I had to do it for four years. Shooting's just you. Handball, you're in a team with other people.

You're like, it's like requires athleticism. It requires like running and catching and And you think you're going to learn past people. Dude, the hand... I've watched the handball. I can do the handball. I could be the worst player. That is a bold claim.

It won't be the worst player. I have a lot of skepticism about that comment. Well, Craig, the first one he said was sailing. Let me tell you, we pissed off a bunch of fucking sailing. Shout out. The sailing looks... All right, all right. In retrospect, it looked hard.

Shout out to Sawjohn. And also, we got an email from Graham, the pissed off sailor. And Sawjun. I'm going to read Sawjuns because Graham's was really mad. Sawjans said, been wanting to write in for a while. Oh, yeah. I figured this was my chance. I grew up in San Diego.

I sailed competitively for 20 years. I was a skipper on my college team, coached for a few years as well. And he tried to explain how a regatta works. Super complicated. What is that? A regatta is a sailing race. Do you want to know how? It's actually a little crazy.

Basically, because you can't start and stop a boat in one place on the water. Right. The start of each race consists of a countdown, like four minute countdown, where each boat jockeys for position on the starting line, which is the most important part of the race. Oh. And when the countdown ends. They're like trying to time it.

So they just hit the... Do you watch a lot of sailing raising? No, no, no, I'm just like picturing it. Oh. No, they're like going... I'm imagining they, like, go around in circles a bunch and then try and time it. So as soon as the countdown stops, they're like across the start line. Yes.

But it's like not easy. And each racer begins by sailing upwind, so against the direction, the wind blowing, which means that you have to zigzag to a mark floating in the water. And while you're zigzagging, there's a bunch of rules governing right away. So if you foul someone by hitting them or making them avoid you, you have to spin penalty circles, meaning you spin your boat, three six, to your 720 degrees, which is really funny. If you think about that in other sports,

imagine the fouls you get to spin twice and keep going. You know, like Mario Kart when you, like, hit the banana and you spin? That's like essentially what that is. And then, wait, listen, if you disagree with the ruling on the penalty, you file a protest and have to settle the matter in a court-like setting off the water with the loser being thrown out of the race. Wow. So you don't just have to learn just sail and use all your upper body strength

and know all the ways of how a boat works in the wind and the water. You also have to be a boat lawyer. boat law Maritime law Charlie Fitz always sunny Bird lawyer at your service

Do you remember the maritime law bit in Arrested Development It's like a whole subplot Yeah Rock paper scissors Anyway I'm taking shooting over handball

Why can I ask you a serious question Have you ever shot a gun Why do you think you'd be good at shooting You've never shot a gun Why do you think you could do it? He has a better chance of being a crack shot naturally than he does of in four years becoming a world-class athlete

that can play handball. But, okay, but way more people shoot guns than play handball. It's not even close. I don't know, man. The handball is like 10x. How many people that shooting? Shooting is not.

Dude. I think that like... It is not. It is objectively not an athletic sport. Okay, but the best athletes in the world are doing like a hundred things before they're doing handball. Like, I just think that, like, you could be the worst playing.

If this is just trying to pick the least popular sport. in the world. Yeah, like, game theory. Like, you're not going to crack the best three shooters on Earth. I think handball is pretty popular worldwide. Have you looked at the handball roster? I've been watching the games. Like, where, you want me to pick over in her place?

I think Hyphitz is actually delusional, but. I'm delusional? You think you could be the third best shooter on Earth? Why don't I have to be the third best shooter on Earth? That's how metals work. I, no, I'm saying that I could, I could make the team for my country. That's what you were saying. Were you like, I was saying?

I thought we're talking about meddling and I'd be the worst player on the bronze medalist for shooting individually. He's like not even playing. You're on the bench? No, I'm not. It's just trying to get in on a technicality.

Yeah, I play. I'm saying I could be the worst player on a bronze medal team. The worst player who plays. Yeah, the worst player plays. So a starter on the handball team that medals. You think, I think that's a better shot than you just, you alone being the third best

shooter in the Olympics? Yes, absolutely. I just think if I have four years and I'm spending every dime. I remember we're getting bankroll. What was it? 500k a year. And all I'm doing is shooting.

All I'm doing is play handball. That's a fucking whole ass sport. I don't think you have the, like, the coordination to be a Olympic handball player. I played handball. I've never even shot a gun. You'd have to get in, okay, that's not the same thing. You'd have to get in, like, incredible shape. That's what the four years and money are for.

He's going to get hurt. I'll hire the Magic Mike people. I don't know. I've seen you play basketball. I don't think you could play handball. How many angry, how many angry, emails that we get about shooting. Oh, we're going to get a lot now.

If you, if you, if no, I'm not saying shooting is easy. I'm not either. All these are obviously have a very high degree of difficulty. I'm just saying, yeah, in terms of like what the average person could pick up, handball versus shooting a gun, I think I would just shooting a gun. I don't know, man. I, I don't know, dude. I feel like it's because it's called handball that you feel like it's easy.

It was called like, yeah, sock up. I want to Google how many people play handball? Not as many as people shoot guns. All right. Well, again, that doesn't fucking mean anything. 30 million people play handball worldwide. 130,000 teams. Yeah, like a lot of people shoot guns, but like that doesn't mean it's harder than playing.

But I think the thing I'm trying to say is like, it's all on you as opposed to just learning to be a role player on a team. Like, I just don't know how you think you could just be the third best thing in the world if your life actually depended on it. If my life depended on being the like a font, like the Derek White of the bronze medal handball team, I could fucking be. Derek White on the bronze medal handball team. I just think he's out of your mind. He's delusional. I'm saying what happened. I'm saying I've better on to that than winning the fucking canoeing. What sports did you play in high school?

Well, play. Okay. I was there. I played football. Okay. We're not talking about it, but if his life depends on it, he's not making it. Zero shot. I'm a better shot than you guys, and I have no fucking chance. How do you know you're a better shot than me?

a gun. That's my point. Well, that's not what that means. I could be naturally good at shooting go. We don't know. It's like, maybe Craig has like Ted Williams eyesight. My dad was on the spot team. It's in my blood. Well, then you know what? You probably good at handball too. I think you, I think Hyphitz thinks handball is like so obscure sport. It's a really popular sport worldwide. You're disparaging handball athletes. Yes. Yes, I am. That's crazy. Oh, handball email. Look at this handball game. There's a lot of people there.

Handball is a big sport. Yeah. Whatever, man. All right. Wait, all right. As if we haven't argued enough, we get another one. All right. So, Matt corrected us because Olympic surfing's in Tahiti, not Fiji.

I try to, yeah. Somebody said that. I did. But, oh, yeah. He probably just emailed us before I said that. Somebody said that and then someone else correct. I think like I said Fiji and you were like, oh, yeah, you're right. Okay.

Otherwise, all right, other stuff. Well, I already met the Olympics. Emails at Reimfinite Football Gmail about the, um, whatever we're just yelling about, yeah, shooting. Okay, two things. Two other things here. Also, wait, did you guys see the Olympian and the Italian gymnastics woman was sponsored by cheese.

She's a cheese NIL deal. She's sponsored by Parmesan cheese. Oh my God, Craig, you got to see this. Wait, we'll throw this up on Spotify. Was it a specific brand? It's like Parmigiano, Reggiano, but it's like actually like, you know, champagne's like a region in Italy? I think the region in Italy that makes the cheese sponsored her.

Where is this? I thought it was AI. I would love to be sponsored by like milk. Wait, here, look at this. Look at this. Yeah, Georgia Via. Look at this. She's just like.

Holy shit. With cheese. She's holding a massive wheel of cheese. Not even maddened. Yeah, it's just her like doing gymnastics on cheese. It's like doing poses on these cheese wheels. So what would, if you make this shooting team, what would be your, what would be your version of this?

This is the coolest thing I've ever. This is the most Italian thing I've ever seen. It's just so cool. She won silver. Oh, nice. This is like being sponsored by pasta. Yeah. I would be sponsored by pizza.

Oh, fuck. That's such a good call. You're just like shooting holes through pizza. What's the most generic thing that you could be sponsored by? Grain. You know what I was... Sponsored by grain. Flower.

Grain. Oh my God. It'd be cool to just be like, I am sponsored by cereal. I was not funny when it's like sponsored like commercials like avocados from Mexico. Like all of them? Yeah. Like they're just all. Okay.

Sponsored by automobiles. Cars. Oh, yeah. The beach. It's just me on beach. Beaches taking photos. Craig. Craig is sponsored by the beach.

My job is beach. Just beach. No, sir. I beach. Are you a, so you're like a lifeguard? Who solves crimes. Yeah. Yeah.

He has a badge. Just beach. Craig and I were talking about this again, the Baywatch thing. It's just lifeguard sponsor, or that are solving crimes. And I think I remember, they had badges. Yeah. Where did they keep them? They had like patches that looks like badges.

They're like a, they're like a sector of like the LAPD or something. are they're like former police officers. There is some connection to, like, law enforcement. Where is Pamela Anderson keeping her fucking badge? In her little fanny pack. All right, that's all we got. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kui, for producing this episode.

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