The Ringer NFL Show - Free Agency, Day 1: Malik to Miami, Ravens and Bills Go All In, Chiefs Sign Ken Walker, Alec Pierce's Payday, Pittman to Pittsburgh, and Skip Bayless on Megan Thee Stallion's Broadway Debut

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

The guys break down the opening wave of NFL free agency, from the Dolphins’ quarterback reset to the Ravens going all in with a blockbuster pass-rush move, and the Raiders spending big to build around their future. They also hit the biggest overpays, surprise fits, and why several contenders are suddenly acting like their window is right now. (00:00) Intro (02:00) Free Agency (01:08:42) Other News (01:19:42) Email Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out The Ringer’s 2026 NFL Draft Guide: https://theringer.com/nfl-draft/2026/big-board#content Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Austin Gayle, Abou Kamara, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show, a.k. The rare NFL draft show. My name is Danny Hyphen. Today I'm joined by Danny, Kelly, and Craig Cromack. And Free Agency has started. Kind of, because people are doing all these deals, but also Kyler, Maria, and Gina Smith, and even, too, it cannot actually be cut until Wednesday. But we're recording this Monday where everyone's signed all these deals.

So we're going to go through free agency. Max Crosby is a Raven. Both your team's lost your running backs named Ken, which is weird that it happened twice. Mike Evans is a San Francisco 49er, kind of on Wednesday. Craig, excited for free agency that's happening and also hasn't happened yet? Yeah, this episode is typically called the Adam Schefter Free Agency drinking game,

but we think Shafti's on to us. He's starting to tweet a little bit more normally. There's not as much to make fun of with Shefti. So, you know, we usually do free agency's nuts. This week is insane. I feel like this morning has been incredibly hectic. And we usually do, you know, the Wednesday episode, the actual day of free agency is really like the end of it. So we call that The Hangover. So I feel like today is like the pregame. And honestly, like most pregames, everybody usually just gets too drunk before you even go out. And you end up drinking more at the pregame than you do the bar.

And I feel like that's today. Shit is flying around. There are so many deals. We have like 100 deals to get to. Today's been crazy. And like a pregame, you think it's going to save you money. And then you come home and you're like, can we kind of wasted a lot of this alcohol.

Yeah. Some teams are too drunk to even make it to the bar. We'll get to those. Yeah. So we can go through all these. The one, I didn't think, we would start here, but I think we have to, which is just getting into it. And also, this is going to be a little bit of a crazy episode, but follow us on Instagram, follow us in TikTok.

And then, yeah, stick with us for the entire draft season, Danny Keller, a draft expert here at the ringer. We're going to go through free agency. I think we have to start with the Dolphins dumping Tua and signing Malik Willis, a quarterback. So Dolphins are, one, going to take a $100 million dead cap hit so Tua could go take a hike, which is unbelievable. The contract extension, they signed them to their one year into a four-year extension. And they're just like, yeah, we're good. And so they're going to take one sixth of their budget this year and then one sixth of their budget next year so Tua can just go leave and kick rocks. And then they're signing Malik Willis for a deal that's $23 million a year, which is $68 million total, which is

about $1 million per completion that Malik Willis has had the last three seasons. Craig, you're shaking shaking your head. Well, at least we thought this number could potentially get into the 30s. So at least cooler heads prevailed a little bit and this number is a little bit more reasonable. This is closer to the Fields deal that he signed with the Jets. It's just crazy, man. So Miami is paying, how much are they paying Tua this year? 60 million? It's going to be $55 million on their cap.

It's not the same as what they're paying Tua, but it's going to be a $55 million debt, like just unusable cap. It's out of $300 million dollars. It's just a year to do it, though. I mean, they're kind of in a. Yeah, but so this year they're paying Malik Willis and Tua like $80 million. Yeah, that's correct. Got it. I like this move.

Am I the only one on the pod that actually has some faith in Malik Willis? I think it's also a good sign, maybe. I don't know, maybe a good omen that the team that is basically made up of former Packers. So the GM and the head coach come from the Packers. They know Malik Willis very well. John Eric Sullivan, Chad won the GM and then Jeff Halfley head coach Chad too. I mean, the fact that these guys know him and kind of know what he's capable of and watch them in practice last couple of years, I think that bodes well for what, for what they're

do here. But yeah, it's interesting because we kind of gave up on the dolphins being a option for Malik Willis because they don't have any cap. I'm looking at their cap space. I don't think this has been updated after day. They had 860 grand in cap space. So, you know, the cap is kind of fake. They can spread this thing out over the next couple of years. The cap goes up an incredible amount every year. Business is always going out. Businesses abomin in the NFL. David Ellison's going to pay more for the NFL. It's fine. It'll always go up. It's always money. in the banana stand, you know? Right.

This deal is much more reasonable, and I will say, do I think Malik Willis is going to be a great player in the NFL when we look back 15 years from now? No. But like, we've talked about how weird the quarterback market is right now.

Like, this is like a decent bridge situation, I think, for Miami. Like the idea of Devon A. Chan and Malik Willis is like, okay, there's something, we might have a stew going from a running game perspective there, but like, this is pure, I mean, the dolphins got rid of Minka Fitzpatrick.

don't think the Dolphins have any plans to take down the bills or the Patriots this year. This is like clearly a reasonable bridge deal to see what you got for a reasonable price, I guess. Yeah, I mean, is Malik Willis going to work as a starting quarterback in the NFL? Probably not. That's why he's available in free agency for like the least money of any veteran starting quarterback in the NFL. I just, I keep saying this, but it's he, is he a veteran, is that we're calling him?

He's a veteran starting quarterback? Well, by definition that he's no longer on a second contract. I mean, how many, again, how many, how many. attempts that I think he's a veteran quarterback then right hell yeah I think Kenny picket probably is more completions than Malik Willis does by a mile he probably is 10 times I mean that's the thing it is absurd I acknowledge it's absurd Malik Willis has had 94 pass attempts since 2022 what you were you guys doing in 22 like that was I was on this call with you in 22 doing the same damn thing nothing's changed but uh well we

used to do this episode drunk for the drinking game you know you know who this is not actually Craig. Well, you guys will like this. This is horrible for Jalen Waddle. This is a really tough look. I mean, fantasy-wise, we're talking here. What else is doing? Were we going to draft him in fantasy? What are you talking about? He's like on the cover of the burn book. This is great. This is exactly what we know. I guess you can revel in it then. I do think the reason this is happening is at the risk of being a broken record is the optimist or pessimists are often right and optimists are often rich. And it's like, oh, if you're going to waste $23 million a year, I'm like, okay, like I just saw the Raiders give Jalen Naylor $11 million a year. I'm like, who gives this shit? Like, if you have a, what is, if you have a 50, a one in six chance that Malik Willis is a good quarterback and the Packers would know better because again, as Dekh said,

the head coach of the, the head coach of the Dolphins was the Packers defensive coordinator in the last couple of years. I, you have to try because what, again, what is Miami's alternative? They were going to roll Quinn Ewers, is the backup quarterback there now, out for week one? Like, you just have to keep throwing darts. And again, they have two or three years to find a quarterback. Quinn Ewers is option, well, A is probably the wrong one.

It's like he's the backup. Malik Willis is two. They're going to have 10 shots at a quarterback. You've got to throw 10 darts. So again, fastest quarterback in the NFL. Malik Willis probably is a top 10 in terms of pure arm strength than the NFL. So if he can actually play under center, play action from the pocket, most guys can't do that or that fast.

It's funny because Dolphins fans are going to go from don't run. Please don't run. Slide to run, run, run, move, go. Jump. Yeah, but I do feel bad. Carlos, I honestly feel so bad for Carlos. This is just tough. Again, it's funny because Tua was unambiguously the best Dolphins quarterback since Dan Marino. And they're like taking 100. I don't know if Dan Mena, Marina got paid $100 million, but the dolphins in his entire career. So it's funny to, you know, tough. But are we going to talk about Tua real quick?

They say he might go to Atlanta, but who knows? The lefties. Yeah, just do the lefty thing in Atlanta. We'll see if he actually signs there. I don't think you can actually sign until at least Wednesday. So they're alleging he'll go to Atlanta. Tua to the Falcons. Write it in stone. I like the idea of them.

You know, they always say your backup should be stylistically similar to your starter. So like Tyler Huntley in Baltimore so they can come in and kind of run the same offense. Having two lefties is objectively hilarious. That's like the only two. The ball will spin the same way for these wide receivers. I do think that's kind of great. I do have to one last thing before we move off to, Albert Breer posted this.

Presuming that Tua play. to the minimum contract this year, which he probably will. The Dolphins will wind up paying nearly $150 million for two years on his 2024 contracts. So it's an extension of that they signed him to in 2024. But they already had Tua under contract at the time for $23 million since 2024. So functionally speaking, Miami paid $123 million for Tua last year. Brutal. That is functionally speaking.

What happened? That's one of the, got to be one of the worst contracts we've ever seen. Second worst. Second worst. behind Deshawn Watson nobody can beat Deshawn no one will be top The Deshawn Watson contract will be topped

Never never Never No That's that one Never Especially considering what they gave up for him Dude that was a bad deal When he was good at football

I know Okay so the other huge thing that happened Over the weekend So the Ravens traded two first round picks To the Raiders for Max Crosby Friday night Friday night And then now we've the addendum to it

Because Tyler they then used the cap space The Raiders got from letting go Max Crosby and used it to sign Tyler Linderbaum the center from the Ravens so it's almost like part of the trade in a weird way. Not really, but it does functionally work out that way. The Ravens give up the number 14 pick in this year's draft

and the first rounder in 2027. We can get to the Raiders in a second. First of all, Jamar Chase, the Bengals receiver. I don't know if Kim, do we have the audio of that? He was like live streaming playing Arc Raiders when he found this up. Txed me. Ravens traded for Max Crosby. No, fuck.

fucking shit. No fucking shit. No fucking shit, brother. I'm fucking highly pissed right now. That's true. That's relatable. I'm highly pissed right now. I'm going to start saying that.

I'm highly pissed right now. I thought that was phenomenal. I mean, Craig, what do you mean? Jamar's in the division? You're in the division? Craig is a Steelers fan? Yeah, I was not happy about this. You're highly pissed?

Max Crosby immediately feels like. like a great Raven and that he's going to work for the Ravens and this is like exactly what they need to make a big defensive stop in the second half of games, which has been a problem for them in the playoffs and in crucial moments. Max Crosby, yeah. I mean, I feel like anywhere he was going to go, I would have felt like what a great signing, what a great fit, but particularly I'm not excited to have him play a 49-year-old Aaron Rogers. I don't know how old is it. I mean, this is the biggest trade in the history of the Baltimore Ravens. It's not even close. The Ravens had never traded a first-round pick for a veteran player.

And now the Ravens traded two first-run picks for one player. The Ravens had never done that. They're only 30 years old as a team, but they had never traded their own first-round pick for someone. So then they come out. Wildly Unraven's move. Well, it's very, I would say the AFC right now is in real like all-in mode where the Ravens are like,

this is our fucking shot. Lamar, we'll see how long. Like, let's go right now. Even the bills with DJ Morak, let's go right now. The Patriots were not, you know, they're not a dominant force in the AFC. Mahomes is coming off at an ACL tear. And it's kind of like these teams that have

gotten close to the sun but haven't quite reached the mountain top like Baltimore and Buffalo are like, fuck it. We're going to go for it. Because what they gave up, what Baltimore gave up is a lot. 100%. The 14th pick in this draft. And then a 2027 first. That is a lot. It's a good deal for the Raiders.

But it is pushing your chips in right now. It's a big midlife crisis move. And I totally agree. I think the Ravens are a midlife crisis. the bills are midlife crisis, like all their like MVP quarterbacks, Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar turning 30. They look at like Caleb Williams for the Bears

ready to be next. Drake May made a Super Bowl. And they're seeing that younger generation, they're being like, maybe I should just get a car and that will make me feel young. And like the bills are- a cyber truck.

Yeah, exactly. And it's like the bills get a second round pick for DG Moore. And you're like, what are you talking about? And but the Ravens, what I really do think it's the same thing. And I know it's like a little simplistic,

but I think the Ravens went and saw Mike McDonald's, who was their defensive coordinator to go and win a Super Bowl at defense. the same year that the Ravens had, like, the few of sacks the Ravens have had in 15 years. I mean, if you just go, I think Craig nailed it too. It's the amount of blown leads the Ravens have had. And Lamarra Jackson gets all the shit for the Ravens blown leads.

But I think that's kind of crazy. Like, if you look at it, I mean, Baltimore had 10 sacks last year from their edge rushers. Dan Rolovsky had this in a Nesbun this morning, that Baltimore's dead last in the entire NFL on just sacks from edge rushers. And it was the first year since 1996, which was Baltimore's first season, that no Baltimore Raven edge rusher had five sacks. in 30 years. And you just go down the line.

It's like the Ravens had 30 sacks. That was, again, Baltimore's worst mark in 15 years. That's why the Ravens keep blowing the leads. And again, ESPN had the set the past five years, Baltimore's blown more leads than any team in the NFL. This is all connected to me. It's like you watch your defensive coordinator go and win the Super Bowl, when you miss the playoffs.

Patrick Mahomes Terrace is ACL. You can't even make the playoffs. You have no pass rush. And you're going through all this. And then also for John Harbaugh gets fired as the head coach of the Ravens. GM Eric DeCosta, it's easy to say, draft and develop, draft and develop. This is obviously Baltimore saying that drafting and developing has been working, especially because they've been sheeping out at PassRussia for 10 years.

They just keep grabbing these great players at the end of their career. Justin Houston on his last legs, Genevian Clowne in his last legs, Calvin Noy in his last legs. You just go down the line. They're like, we'll get cheap guys. David Ojabo from Michigan will like tear his Achilles at the Combine or whatever, and then they'll take him in the second round. And they keep trying to like...

Well, they traded away, O'Donoff. Faye Oway last year after five games. And then he had seven and a half sacks with the Chargers. They're like, God damn it. And we keep fucking this up. And that's the fear. And so I think the pressure was that they needed Jesse Minter to be the next Mike McDonald, where they're like, we had all these guys in house that are clearly the next

wave. It's like the Washington commander staff that had Kyle O'Shanahan and Sean McVeigh and all these guys and staff. Baltimore was kind of like that for defense. They had all these defensive guys on staff. And there's this fear they let him go. And now Jesse Minter needs to be the next McDonald's. But you do this Max Crosby trade.

And it's like, well, Jesse Winter better be the next Mike McDonald because, holy crap, two first rounders for your Baltimore. Like, they've never done this. And so I think this is just what we said last year about the Steelers getting DK Metcalf. Like, this is a Corvette. It is interesting. We've seen kind of, I mean, I guess this just is happening a lot around the league. But there's been a spate of new coaches coming in and just making big moves. You know what I mean?

Across the league. I was thinking of the Jags last year, how they had, you know, new GM come in. and immediately just make one of the biggest trades in the draft. It is kind of wild because usually, I think the old way was like nothing too splashy at first. You have to like get everything established. Set your culture. You get to earn your right to do that. Right.

And then now you're just having these coaches come in. Obviously, look, the GM is not new. So that he probably, the coach probably didn't have a huge amount to do with this anyway. But, but yeah, this just felt to me that my first reaction was like, wow, the Ravens did this. That is, that is different. They've never done it. Maybe they need something, you know, this is like they need to spice it up. They're looking at their ex, go win a Super Bowl.

And that bugs them. And I do think it's worth saying. Max Crosby, I think when he's healthy, I don't think anyone has. He's like your favorite football player's favorite football player. Like there's no questions about Max Crosby as a guy. Well, yeah, that's what I was going to add to this to is like a lot of the risk and fear in making a trade like this in most cases is you get a guy who comes in. He doesn't really fit the locker room.

You don't know him that well. He's and maybe when he gets a new. contract or whatever, changes teams. He doesn't try as hard. There's like effort or personality issues. It doesn't seem like Max Cresby's that guy. I mean, he got he got furious at the Raiders, even though they were like two wins or three wins or whatever for having him not play the final game. That like soured the relationship. Max Crosby's furious that they don't tackle in the pro bowl anymore. Right. He's just a maniac in the best way. So I don't see him being an issue from that point of view. I think that's

he getting trouble for like hitting the quarterback in practice. He's he's he's he's as focused and maniacal. And they're like, well, if you don't want me to hit the quarterback, block me. Yeah. I mean, again, like the amount of intensity you have to have to just not come off the football field for years at a time. Like Max Crosby just no one plays 99% of snaps and he did for a long time. And just the effort, Crosby has more tackles for loss in the final five minutes of games than anyone else in the past seven years, which that was an amazing stat I saw at ESPN. He's twice, Crosby has twice as many sacks than anyone on the Ravens since 20.

2019, which is, and then again, the Ravens at the second few of sacks, and basically the history of the team last year. And I think if you just forget age and forget health for a second, you have to win one game. I think the guys you would take ahead of Max Crosby or Miles Garrett, healthy Micah Parsons. Is T.J. Watt up there still, Craig? I'd retina, no. Wow. Not even a conversation. I would certainly say he's in that tier. I just threw that out for respect, you know. I would say he's in that tier. I think he's fine in that tier. I, I, I, I love Max Grosby. I think the question is...

Max Crosby hasn't really played a super important game in a long time. It's the only difference. We've seen T.J. Watt do a lot of things in crucial moments. Max Crosby's down 20 every game.

You know, it's funny? Max Crosby has won a playoff game and T.J. Watts literally never won a playoff game, which is just a weird stat. I know, but you know what I mean. I know. But anyway, the point is, I think everyone agrees that Max Crosby on the Ravens is great.

It's just more... One, how does a guy who never takes any snaps off age? It's just going to be interesting. But overall, it's like, the Ravens better win. We always say, oh, it's a Super Bowl all-in move. Realistically, I would describe it as for a first-year head coach, Jesse Minner. If the Ravens don't make the AFC championship game, I think it's a catastrophe. Like, I think that's a realistic thing.

I'm not saying that's successful if they lose an AFC championship game. But the Ravens, making the divisional round is not good enough. You just gave up your first two rounders. Like, obviously the Ravens need to make a Super Bowl. Like that goes that's saying. But it's a disaster if the Ravens can't even make the semifinals. I mean, even if they didn't trade for Max Crosby, they didn't make the AFC championship, I would argue the season is a disaster.

Wouldn't you? I mean, the goal is, they have to make a Super Bowl one time. That'd be good. They'd be helpful. But I do think this is the, setting aside the price tag, I think this is the best move so far of this year. And the flip side of the though, is worth looking at the Raiders,

because the Raiders have just really made a long way to a rebuild in about like three days here. Because they, I mean, full on, obviously, Fernando Mendoza era. They're going to take Fernando Mendoza with the first pick. and now they flip max crawls me. It always sucks when you lose your best player because everyone else is like, wow, two first.

And everyone else is like, there's no chance that those two players will be as good as my favorite player. Like when your team trades your favorite player, you're like, there's no way that picks that out up. But the Raiders then turn around, they sign Tyler Linderbaum at Center. So three years, $80 million, $60 million guaranteed.

So, I mean, forget Center as a position, not even the highest paid interior offensive lineman. I think Tyler Linderbaum would now be one of the highest paid left tackles in the NFL at this point. I think I saw sixth or seventh on average per year. The next closest center in average per year. He's averaging 27 million is Creed Humphrey at 18.

I mean, it's even by free agency standards, it's an overpay and all free agency is overpaying players. What did you think of this, D.K.? I mean, I thought, first of all, $28 million for a center per year. You were going as a team with the reputation, the current reputation of the Raiders, this is necessary. You have to go out and just pay out the ass if you're going to get a player like Linderbom to come from a very good, stable organization like the Ravens to basically, you know, leave that security, leave that future, leave that quarterback and come play for the frickin Raiders. No offense, Austin, sorry, but come play for the freaking Raiders who are rebuilding and starting with a rookie quarterback. Don't know how that's going to turn out. You have to just absolutely overpay big time.

This is what happens when you're rebuilding a team. you have to overpay for free agents. You have to sort of get excitement around the franchise. You have to see that it's a destination. I think this is what they're doing. So is it worth it? I think yes, because even if he isn't the best offensive linemen or center in the league, he's up there.

He's in that top tier. And, you know, they're just overpaying for him to check a few different boxes. Number one, obviously, you get a center to come in and help out your rookie quarterback, which is massive. I think he's a perfect scheme fit for the Kubiak offense, which is really dependent on running the football, play action, deep shots, all that stuff. It's great for your last year's first round investment in Ashton Gentie. It's great for him.

It's great for a lot of things. And it also, I think, makes Las Vegas look more like a destination. More people are excited about it, I think, and seeing that they're a team that's going to pay. So I think there's multiple things that play here. But yeah, obviously on paper, this looks like a massive overpay, which is. I like that you're like, it makes Las Vegas a destination. like it's the travel board.

Like, yeah, they'll overpaid by 50% of the second highest big guy. I think that also what it does is it just, it's about making Fernando Mendoza good. Right. And I think you need. That's the most important. Yeah, be exposed to a lot of interior pressure. And I think that works for Tyler Linderbaum just being a good center.

And I don't think he's honestly even the best center in the NFL, but I think he's the best one available. And sometimes that it all takes. But you have at least Colton Miller at left tackle. And then I think you, Jackson Powers Johnson, who was supposed to be center that I think is probably just going to play like right guard now. But then Tyler Linderbombeam at center. But it's not just that.

It's setting protections and everything at the NFL level, which, so not only is he literally protecting them, but that earlier in your career, like you want quarterbacks to, in theory, be able to do all the audibles of the line. But it's really hard right now if you're going to go play the Chargers or the Ravens to figure out, or the Seahawks, all these teams were going to figure out the blitzers.

So some teams you need the centers to be able to do that. I think that's one of the reasons since Jason Kelsey retired. It's been harder for the Eagles to have, you know, Jaylon Hertz wasn't setting all the protections and stuff, and now he is, and that's something that's changed. That's just something off Fernando Mendoza's shoulders, which is also kind of what the money's for. So it's like, it's very easy to point.

Be like, too much money for that guy. It's not about that. It's about can the offense function without Fernando Mendoza having to do everything pre-snap? Or can he just kind of go and play football? Which I do think that's a lot of what the money's for. But they didn't just do that, though. They also went, they re-signed Eric Stokes,

who's a former first-round quarterback for the Packers to, like, a giant contract. They traded a six-round pick, I think, for Taryn Johnson, who's a very respected nickel cornerback for the bills. and then we were excited about that stuff. Then they gave again Jailen Naylor like 10 million a year. But the Ravens went out and spent like, what is this? Like $120 million a year on all these players. So they won the, DeKav, they won the off season for two years ago?

Yeah, the Raiders. Yeah, sorry. Two years in a row, Raiders win the off season? No, I don't think we're going to call them the winners of the off season, but I think these are smart moves and moves that are necessary. I mean, if you look at next year, so not 2026, but 2027, the Raiders have like 210 million in caps. face. They have to start spending some of this money.

I didn't the Jalen Naylor thing I thought was interesting. It's like man the back like a number three receiver is the most highly played most overpaid I should say person in football. Right. Like last year it was like two to out well for 10 mil Jalen Naylor. I'm not saying Jalen Nailer's a bad player, but like double digit millions for a Jalen Naylor. It just seems crazy to me. Then you get like the running backs are just you know fighting for scraps to try and get even something near that. And now, so the Raiders have the first pick in the draft and now they also have the 14th pick in the draft. DK., do you see this as them just getting another offensive lineman and fully buying into building an offensive line for Mendoza? I kind of think that's

the right move to do right now. I mean, there'll be a lot of different options there at 14. I know a lot of people are connecting them with the Penn State Guard, Vega, Juane. You got Vega in the name. Austin pointed out that all the Vegas group chats are calling in Vegas, Yonay. So I think he would make a ton of sense. He's like really another guy who I think just would stabilize their offensive line. I'm sure Kubiak coming out of Seattle is like, look what Gray Zabel did for them last year and their offense. Just a guy who's going to go in there. He, I think he gave up zero sacks. Yawanna did over the last two seasons for Penn State. He's just really solid high floor day one starter. And generally speaking, guards are not considered that high

in terms of priority. But I think this is huge. This would be huge. Neither was Tyler Linderbaum. Or neither was Gray's able. I mean, Gray's able helps a lot with the Seahawks. Well, yeah, and factor in that not only continuing to bet on the offensive line and drafting an offensive line and helped Mendoza, but also helped fucking Ashton Genti, who last year couldn't get the ball

of the line of scrimmage before getting hit. And so bringing Kubiak in and seeing what Ken Walker just did, I mean, you're also investing in Ashton Genti as much as you are in Mendoza. The fan fiction right now, let's just say the Raiders take, just call them Vegas, you want it, at guard. And so they have a first-round pick at left guard and right-guard,

a first-run pick from a while ago at left tackle, and then Tyler Linder-abomber first, the highest-paid interior line at center, with Ashen Gentie at running back, Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer at tight end, and then just a very, very strange collection of receivers. And for Nato Mendoza quarterback, I'm like, that actually is the kind of core

that can compete with the Chiefs and the Chargers and the Broncos. And, like, that actually is pretty incredible AFC West. I can kind of see this working a little bit. See, what happens all the time is we always declare a team back, and then it's a disaster and then we're out. But you have to be smarter than that. The Raiders are now officially back. Now the Raiders are back.

Yeah. I was thinking that this whole time. I know that I'm kind of a Pete Carroll apologist, but I feel bad for Carol because he kind of like helped set them. By being so terrible, he helped set them on this path. You know what I mean? Like first overall pick, you get the quarterback. In theory, he's going to be a franchise quarterback.

And now they're making all these moves that I kind of like. I'm like, poor Carol. He just was sort of the sacrifice. a lamb for one year and poor carroll wasn't he getting 12 million dollars a year to retire for the rest of that raiders contract look his his reputation's not doing so great right now he didn't care about the money you know come on i was going to make some joke about the bay but the raiders haven't been the 49ers for a long time but the 49ers signed mike evans on a three-year contract god damn i i kind of didn't think mike evans would leave deca's joke that the best

players always go to the nancy west is really true well the fact that max crosbie didn't go the nfc west was a big win for us. But it's all, like, you know, the Rams did all these crazy moves. They went in and traded for Trump McDuffie. I wouldn't call him like a great player,

but he's definitely a good player. Well, I hope Detroit McDuffie's a great player. He's getting $31 million a year from the Rams. I mean, multi-time all pro. So he's definitely a good player. But then I,

that tweet was more in line with like, you know, the Mike Evans of the world, like guys that have been doing it for a really long time. And I saw that and I was like, God damn it. Always the 49ers or the Rams. But this is your,

Your team won the Super Bowl, right? We've been over this, Hyphitz. The hatred for your rivals is stronger than the love for your own team. Anyway, this movie is interesting. First of all, a guy who's kind of got a reputation for being a little bit hobbled throughout the year going and playing next to that substation. Interesting. You say Mike Evans won't get healthier playing the 49ers substation?

Does he have a reputation for being hobbled? Does he have a reputation for being hobbled? He's always kind of like limping around with hamstring injury every year. You know, that's true. You do get the jersey consistency. You can see him in a Niners uniform, which is important. It just feels like it's going to work. I do love this for the Niners, though.

I think Evan still has it. I mean, it's essentially just upgrading the Joanne Jennings type. 100%. Yeah. Who's a free agent who's probably to leave. So they got Ricky Pearsall, who I think in theory can still be a very good number two for them going forward, you know, if he can get healthy and stay healthy. So it would be him and Mike Evans that obviously can. Kittle if he comes back.

Well, Kittles got an Achilles care at 31. The Niners are in a weird spot. The niners are fucking old now, man. McCaffrey too, yeah.

McCaffrey, Mike Evans, George Kittle coming off in Achilles. You got the Trent Williams situation right now. Like this team is, I don't know if I would call them

all in, but they're just old. Yeah, they're very, I mean, Trent Williams again, we'll see what happens. I don't think

they're going to get rid of Trent Williams. They're threatening to, but in reality, he just wants more money and they're like you're 37 years old, turning 38.

But yeah, Kittles. He's like, I'm going to play until I'm 45. And then Brandon Iuk, who again, they agreed to give like $30 million a year. And Brandon Ayuk is MIA. I don't know if Brandon Ayuk is going to play football again. I don't know what's going on with his knee. So like I don't, he's certainly done with San Francisco. I don't know if he's going to play for anybody going forward.

Doesn't feel like he's even going to be in the NFL anymore. I don't think he, I think everything with his rehab was very strange for the, for his knee. So I think, but that's kind of what this reflects to me is that, yeah, the Niners are going to move on. So Mike Evans and Ricky, like Mike Evans is also, so I think. one that works for Shanahan, where Mike Evans will also kick the shit out of some people blocking downfield, which I think is important for Kyle Shannon. Also, Mike Evans, like, also just kind of a psycho who wants to win Super Bowls.

So, yeah, I think that's pretty fun for the San Francisco. I'm excited to talk to you guys about this, because I don't know what to make of it. So Alec Pierce was like the bell of the ball for free agency. And everyone was talking about Alec Pierce's receiver. Every team photoshopped him into their team's jersey and everything. He was going to play for every team in the NFL. and then Alec Pierce the Colts, blueball everybody, and bring Alec Pierce back immediately at 12 p.m. on the dot

and re-sign him for a gazillion dollars. I mean, they say four years, $160 million, $1.16 million. All these numbers are fake, by the way. But $29 million a year, like it is, like, seems three years for like $90 million for Alec Pierce, $30 million a year. That makes him, like, yeah, like this 8, 9, 10th highest paid widers season in the NFL. And free agency is wild for what do you guys? What do you guys think of this of Alex.

I feel like I'm getting gaslit about how great Alec Pierce is. I don't want to be Alec Pierce hater because I do think he's a good role player in a specific deep shot role. He's going to create big plays. He's averaged 22 yards per catch the last two seasons, which is absolutely insane. But when I see that number, I'm like, that is very connected to the quarterback. You know what I mean? Like this is not a guy who can thrive in any situation with any quarterback. He has to have a guy.

who's willing to chuck it up to him, a scheme that's like going to scheme him up for these deep shots off of play action, the marriage that that comes with with the run game. So I do think it makes sense for him to stay in Indianapolis. And which quarterback do you think will be throwing to him when Daniel Jones is still recovering from his Achilles? That's a good question. But this to me is wild.

I can't, this feels like a massive overpay in my opinion. So I don't know. It's weird. Like his career high for catches is 47. His career high for touchdowns is seven. I just, it's kind of wild to me that he is up.

there with some of the elite receivers in the NFL now in pay. I mean, I think he's a good player, but I'm not trying to be a hater, but this is wild, right? He's got a great PR team or something. Yeah. Because the stock was so high on him. And I mean, Bill wanted the Patriots to sign him. Everybody wanted Alec Pierce. And I guess it's a beggars can't be choosers situation because free agency is what it is. And like we said, giving Creed Humphrey that much money, it's like, I mean, Tyler Linderbaum that much money. It's like, if they're available, you got to pay them. You got to bring somebody in and, you know, make a commitment to your team. But I'm like, he's the eighth highest paid wide receiver in the NFL, Alec Pierce.

Dude, he's averaged in his career, Craig. 2.5 catches a game. It's so, yeah, that's, God, say that again. And now he's getting. Last year, it was 3.1 catches a game. That was his best. You're paying this guy for three catches a game? I would have, honestly, him going to the Pats would have made sense to me because I'm like,

at least Drake May is like the best. deep ball thrower in the NFL. And you want to overpay a little bit for a guy that you think you can extract the most value out of because he specifically fits in your system. I guess you can say he was great for the cult of Daniel Jones last year. But yeah, I mean, Daniel Jones is coming off a broken leg and a torn Achilles.

I don't know. The Colts seem like they are, like when you look at the Ravens having this midlife crisis going all in because they need to get a Super Bowl, you're like, all right, I get it. That makes sense. And then you see the bills, Josh Allen, I'm going all end, like, where do anything for Super Bowl,

just desperation mode. You're like, all right, that makes sense. And then the cults are doing it, and you're kind of like, what are you doing here? It's kind of sad to see a team chasing one 10 game stretch from last season so hard. Like, the Colts started eight and two once, and they're like, we can't break the band up.

We need everyone coming back. And so you're bringing out the combination of Daniel Jones coming back at what is the number, $36 million a year. Again, off a torn Achilles, where I get you have to bring him back, but I'm like, he's a mobile quarterback,

with an Achilles recovery, Alec Pierce at $30 million. They traded Michael Pittman to the Steelers, but I'm like, sauce gardener gets traded for two firsts from pick, so the Colts gave up the two firsts. And frankly, I just feel like this is Chris Ballard, the GM needs to save his job

and has been here for eight or nine years. It needs to justify that last year's run can be sustained and they need to go in and they need to justify all these moves they made. And I don't know. I think this is very much like the tail wagging, the dog. None of this makes sense to me.

Like, I don't think anyone thinks, in a weird way, Alex Pierce going somewhere else. I agree, Craig, would make more sense. Alec Pierce returning, it's almost like, it's an ick. It's weird. He's about to have the most expensive 800-yard season of all time next year. Yeah. To strain the free agency pre-game metaphor, analogy, whatever,

this is like when I would go, when I was in high school, and I would go visit my brother in college, and I would show up to the pre-game and think I can hang with everybody and take like three shots really quickly and everyone's like Craig, easy buddy like it's all right, you don't have to do that like that's the Colts being like, we're in it it's Baltimore, it's Buffalo, it's us

we're giving receivers $30 million a year like let's rip Svedka shots. Again, I know it's easy to be a wet blanket here but I agree Craig because it's like you're doing the shots you're like this is easy, I can hang and the three hours later like you actually your brother has to come take you home you throw it up like last year the Patriots tried to sign Chris Godwin

and they went back to Tampa so they gave Stefan Dick's the big contract. Everyone's like, oh, look at that. And then guess what? They very quickly switched to, we'll actually just cut Stefan Diggs to save money. Or the dolphins. They're like, in two years, like, we'll actually take the biggest cap it ever to make this guy go away. No offense, but to Alec Pierce, but in two years, do you think it's more likely that we're like, incredible deal? Thank God, Indianapolis kept Alec Pierce. Or it's like, we're going to be hearing Adam Schifter, by moving some money around, they have released Alec Pierce freeing up $18 million. You know what I mean? I don't know. I, yeah.

Is Alec Pierce going to be a top 25 receiver drafted in fantasy this year? I guess he has to. And what does he have to do to justify 30 million a year? Who's going to, who's the quarterback? I guess it's Daniel Jones. This is weird, man. This just feels like they're managing up in Indianapolis. I think this is strange.

Again, wide receiver contracts, man. Daniel Jones, I don't. But to Craig's point, I don't know who the quarterback is because, I mean, we just saw Jason Tatum come back from the Achilles. Like, I guess Daniel Jones can't do. But he tore it in December. Like, it's not the same as Kirk Cousins coming. Aaron Rogers tours Achilles.

They're older. Week one. Like, Kirk Cousins had tour it week five and came back. Dylan Jones tour at like, what, week 11? Like, week 12. Like, that's different recovery. So, yeah, I don't know. They also did this move in conjunction with another move.

Yes, they traded Michael Pittman to Pittsburgh. Craig. How do you feel? It's a good deal. I love this. I love this for the Steelers. It's a good deal. The Steelers are funny because, like, we're joking about teams being all-in. The Steelers are, like, the most milk toast all-in team where they're like, on paper,

this is a good deal. Like, three years, 59 million. He's making the same. How is that on paper a good deal? We just thought, that's, that's 20 million year. Alec Pierce is getting 20 at Michael Pittman's. I don't know. It's the same amount of. He's making, like, top 25-ish wide receiver money. Alec Pierce is making top seven-ish-wide receiver money. Why wouldn't you just go and sign Malik Willis at that point? I'd rather have Aaron Rogers. I'd rather have Aaron Rogers and and Michael Pittman than Malick Willis and no Michael Pittman.

It's so bothers me that Aaron Rogers can't be bothered to give the Steelers an answer about whether he's returning in March. It's actually insane. You don't you don't think it's a good deal that we're paying Michael Pittman the same amount as Tennessee is paying Wondale Robinson. Again, that also is like I was going to ask you guys what you think they are making the same amount. They are both making like 19, 20 million bucks a year, Wondell Robinson and Michael Pittman. Look, yeah, I'm like, Michael Pittman is. is a really solid, probably overqualified wide receiver two. Last year he was fucking great on the Colts before Daniel Jones got hurt.

He was the wide receiver 10 in fantasy before Daniel Jones got hurt. And he's never had a good quarterback. And I think he's a good player and he feels like a stealer and all that. Do I think this moves the needle tremendously? Like, no. But there's nothing the Steelers can do that will move the needle tremendously because their quarterback situation is fucked and they are where they are. Do I think they needed a wide receiver and do I think financially, from a talent perspective,

if this is like a solid move, I do. I think this is good. I think they needed a guy like this. Do I think they're going to go to the AFC championship now? No. I do think the Steelers have an identity now, which is that they're just huge. They're just absolutely huge. D.K. Metcalf is huge. Michael Pittman, what is he, 6-4-225?

Like, he's huge. Darno Washington is like literally the biggest position player in the history of the sport. Yeah. And they got rid of a little Kenny Gainwell. So sorry about that, Craig. Got a little your only time in. Devastating, my God. Not even for that much money.

What did you get like two years, 14 million? You know, it's so weird because if you just told me Pitman's there, I'm like, that works with Aaron Rogers and what he wants to do. And so I was like, oh, I bet Rogers has sneakily told them like, I'm going to come back. I am really weirded. I don't know why Rogers is so sensitive at what happened with OTAs and going to the pyramids instead of OTAs to the Jets like two years ago.

But he clearly timed his announcement last year around not being at OTAs, and I kind of think he might do it again this year. I don't know why that mattered him so much. But the Kenneth Gainwell leaving is the only thing that makes. me wonder if Aaron Rogers is not returning because I feel like if Rogers is coming back, they totally would have kept Kenny Gainwell. Pittsburgh's favorite player. I'm devastated.

But I think we're going to find out Rogers is back this week. I don't know why he can't be bothered to tell people by the time they have to spend $100 million. You'd think that he would tell. But Kenneth Gainwell, wasn't he your leading receiver last year? Kenneth Gainwell, DK McHath had. Well, 73 catches.

He had the most catches on the team for Kenneth Gainwell last year. Yeah. He's incredibly versatile. dependable player. I loved him. He came through every time you needed him. I'm devastated that he's gone. He's going to be great for Tampa Bay. Bucky Irving fans should be worried because Kenneth Gainwell was about to eat his lunch.

He's great. Talk about being gaslit. No, Gainwell's great. D.K., how do you feel about Pittman? I think it's perfect. I love this for the Steelers. I think he's perfect compliment to D.K. McAfee. Yeah. We were making fun of the Steelers' depth chart at receiver, like at last.

week. You know, having adding a guy who they, I believe is still got some good years ahead of him. He's a possession receiver. Um, you know, he's that short and intermediate area where D.K. McHath doesn't necessarily shine. He can run after the catch. He's really tough after the catch. I like it. I think it makes a lot of sense. And he was obviously on the outs in Indy. They didn't want to keep paying him when they were paying him. Um, so it makes a ton of sense. And now they have two experienced receivers. They can start to build up the, the depth chart a little bit more with some younger guys, but going into the year with D.K. Maccaf and no one else was not going to have work.

I think this is reasonable. Does it move the needle tremendously? No, but I like it. I feel like people are kind of out on Pittman. I still think he's good. I don't think he's an elite player or anything like that. He was the wide receiver 10 last year before Daniel Jones got hurt. He was playing great. Hyfitt's got him in the ringer fantasy league in like the 15th round and he was fucking awesome. So yeah, I think it's great. I like it. And I am sorry that you lost gainwell. There's no headlines that will you can't make a headline with this deal because it's not a disaster and I don't think it's incredible.

but it's solid. I just, it is funny that Michael Pittman, who the cults just where we're pretty happy to push out the door and you're going to get for what? He's age 29, age 30, whatever sees.

He's 28. I like, yeah, but don't do that. Don't do that thing. He is 20. You add a year if you don't. He turns 29 in October.

So I think that qualifies as him being 28. I don't know. You never know. He is 28 and a half right now. What number are they going to put on his pro football reference page? is what I want to know. The...

This is solid. What were they gonna do? I mean, look, I wanted Romeo Dobbs. I think this is like in that range or probably, you know, they're paying a little more money than they would have gotten for Dobbs or something like that. But this is exactly who they needed. A guy who can fucking catch passes on a third and six. I hate to tell you, they're gonna put 29... They're gonna put 29 next to his age there in this next year.

Sorry, Craig. What was the second round pick you traded for DK Metcalf and then you gave him $35 million a year if he can't catch a pass? Well, for every D.K. McHaff, you need your Tyler Lockett. And pairing somebody with D.K. McAfee, works. Well, I mean, two Tyler Lockett's at a trench coats as tall as Michael Pittman. No, I know what you're saying. It's just funny because I think it's the opposite of what the Bears did with the DJ Moore trade, where the Bears are going to pay, I mean, what are Luther Burden, Romad, Zay and Coltsville-Lauvelin combined going to make in salary?

It's like, is that even $20 million total? I mean, it's fantastic. The Bears are in a lovely situation, but they can do something that the Steelers can't, which is draft a good wide receiver. They spent two top 10 picks on those guys. Yeah, and they've hit on them. But yes.

They've hit on them. Three straight guys. I think Rome's good. I think Luther Berthin's good. I'm pretty sure Colston Loveland's good. They just went three for three. That's what fucking happens. We talk about this all the time.

If you draft guys who are good, then it's cheap. Yeah, you should take guys who are good. That is a good point. That does always work. Since I mentioned the trade, though, I know it happened a few years ago, but we didn't actually hit the Bears,

the DG Moore trade. So the Bears got Buffalo's second rounder, which is number 60 overall, and the bills get DG Moore and a fifth round pick, which is basically the bills moved their second rounder back 100 spots in the draft

and in exchange got D.J. Moore. And these data free agencies to me so far, which is when the bills made this trade, so they got DG Moore, but before free agency had just begun, so not counting these Alka Pierce trades, deals and stuff, the bills had actually had the second most expensive

wide receiver group in the NFL. Wow. Only behind Cincinnati. So the Bengals were spending the most money at receiver entering this season with Jamar Chase and Teagans. And then the bills were actually in second place. How is that possible? Is that money they owed Stefan Diggs?

It's, well, they paid Josh Palmer for free agency. They had DJ Moore's getting $20 million. Yeah. And so believe it or not, which for a team that actually needs receiver so desperately, I think is hilarious. But I don't know, DK, what did you make of this DJMore trade for the bills? thought this was also like super desperate from buffalo yeah i think number one it felt like uh a great trade for the bears who get a second round pick which is massive they have a lot of work to do

with their offensive line unfortunately because dalman retired uh tripiloh or trip trip tripillow has a torn peteller i can't remember just tore his knee the whole thing um and so yeah they're gonna have they're gonna have to super painful they're gonna have to do some work but i think this is a great move for the bearers-su, I mean, DJ Moore was checked out for the vast majority of the last two years. It feels like it felt like he clearly hated Caleb Williams. The connection in between the two of them was very poor. And it just feels like, you know, the arrow is pointing up for Luther Burden. The arrow is pointing up for Loveland.

And I think they can get a lot more out of Roma Dunes if he's healthy. So it just made a lot of sense for them to move on from D.J. Moore at that point. I think it makes sense for the bills too because he does, D.J. Moore does. give them something that they didn't really have, which is a guy who can play at all three positions at the receiver position. He can get deep. Beat man coverage, which nobody on Buffalo good last year. Exactly. And he has a history with Joe Brady. So I think there's that element too, which makes it a little less risky for them. So yeah, I liked it for both teams. I think the bears probably come out as the quote unquote

winner because they get that pick. But it's good for the bills who need to kind of invest in that position. You know, this is Brandon Bean kind of. you know, swallowing his ego a little bit and just going, is that the expression? That sounds weird. Swallowing his ego? I don't think that's not the expression. Swallowing is pride. Swallowing is pride.

I've never thought about that phrase in general. Well, whatever. Same deal. No, no, no, let's go. He's swallowing his ego. I heard you guys, I heard you guys on Bill's pod kind of shitting on this deal for Buffalo. And to be honest, I disagree. I think this is classic offseason armchair GM bullshit where everyone's like,

a second rounder for DJ Moore, ridiculous. And it's like, you know, when it's going to feel right? Both you. And everybody online. Ridiculous. You know when it's going to feel like a good trade in January when it's like third and 11, DJ Moore makes a huge catch?

Like he did multiple times for the Bears this year. Like that incredible Caleb Williams touchdown in overtime to beat the Packers in December, that was to DJ Moore for like 45 years. Yeah. And so the Bears season also ended when DJ Moore didn't finish a route that Caleb was scrambling on. My point is in the fucking overtime of the playoffs. So like when Josh Allen's scrambling in overtime at the playoffs,

is it going to finish this fucking route or not? My point is this. There are certain wide receivers who like to be the number one, and that's DJ Moore. And if they're the number two, they can't deal with it. And DJ Moore getting relegated by these younger guys coming up. Also after a disastrous first year with Kayla Williams. I don't say, I'm not saying I understand that or I agree with DJ Moore,

just like literally bailing midrout. That's insane. But I can see him as like a guy I know is talented. He's 28 years old. He's going to be the number one on Buffalo. they need a guy like this. They do. There is no doubt that they need a guy like this.

Who gives a shit that you gave up the 60th pick in the fucking draft? You're trying to win next year in the playoffs and DJ Moore is good. Who else are you going to get? Are you going to send a first for AJ Brown another guy who doesn't fucking play? You don't what would have been cool.

You know what would have been cool. Imagine if the bills could have got like, imagine Mike Evans was available. I don't know. To be honest. I would have been, so can you imagine Buffalo of Mike Evans? If only there was a way for a team

to acquire Mike Evans. I don't know. I guess. 33 year old Mike Evans who we just said is hurdle. the time versus 28-year-old DJ Moore. To me, I don't see a huge difference there. No, if D.G. Moore's good.

My opinion on this is, what version of D.J. Moore are we talking about here? That's what I want to know, because I think I agree with Craig if we get a good version of D.J. Moore, has a renaissance. DJ Moore's never had a good quarterback. Other than Caleb Williams, he loved. And Ben Johnson, who's your favorite coach now, it gave up on him. Year one with Caleb Williams, he was like the worst quarterback. He clearly hates Caleb Williams.

And by the time the second year came around, he was like a... in a rotation with like four other guys. So you, but here's thing, you, is there any coach in the NFL you like more than Ben Johnson? Because Ben Johnson just like looked at DJ Moore was like, no, thank you, not for me. Not like, I can't win with this guy. For what they're paying him and for all these draft picks that they've hit on,

yeah, that makes sense of you're getting rid of them. I get what you're saying. Also, part of it's the salaries too. It's like DJ Moore is making a ton of money. And that's also part of it is that DJ Moore, it's not just that they're giving up the 60th pick for DJ Moore. Because again, I know what you mean. It's like the bills, whoever gets the 60th pick.

They were like, A late second roundover, DJ Moore. I'm like, dude, he's going to have six catches for 120 yards in the NFC championship game. Everyone's going to love it. But if you get some of the comparable trades for older receivers, like this felt like an overpay. And also, Craig, to your point, the irony is. What, is he 28 years old? Is that older?

How many 24-year-olds wide receiver get traded? Like, this is what happens. But also, the irony is you're like, well, it's the 60th pick. You've got to go win now. It's like the players who've been taken around that range. I mean, D.K. McCaff was the 64th pick. You know what I mean? AJ Brown was the 52nd pick or something.

There are good receivers in that range. I get your point, though. It's also just, it's a lot of money for Buffalo. They're also redoing their defense, but I get it. It's like you get a good player. He's a good player. I look at it more as it is just the late, when I say desperation,

it's the kind of thing you have to do when you've just missed on everything else that Buffalo's done. It's like Dalton Kincaid was supposed to be this like two tight ends set unlock guy and frankly, adult guy's not been good. Like, I guess down the stretch he was good, but he hasn't been healthy.

Keon Coleman obviously was a miss taking him. I mean, Laddman. Honestly, the bills probably would have made a Super Bowl by now if they had taken Ladd McConkins to the Keenan Coleman. And you just go down the line. Like the fact that Brandon Cooks was their biggest receiver

or their most important receiver in that Broncos game and that he's the guy. So I agree. Like, but that's the point is they had to do it. And now they have to hope that it works. Us being like, well,

did they overspend on Tyler Lindermom and paid him like a left tackle? Yeah, but that's what you got to do. I'm like, Bill's fans right now are probably like, I'm excited to have a number one wide receiver on my team who I know is talented and Josh Allen can work with. And I think that's like where the conversation should end.

I totally agree. I just think that I'm not even arguing that much because I like DG more, I think more of the most people. It just at some point like he had not to make everything about yards, he's 680 yards last year. I mean, if you look at it. You need to revive his career. Michael Pittman was traded for a late round pick swap.

So nothing. Rashid last year, fifth round pick. Jacoby Myers, fourth round pick. I'm looking at trades for receivers over the last couple of years. George Pickens was a third rounder. Yeah, Michael Pittman was one of six for a seven. I think that's second rounder. DJ Moore is like seven picks away from being a third round pick.

This is like the end of the, the pick they traded at the end of second round pick. Sure, but it's still a second round pick. I'm just saying if this was the first pick of the third round pick, everybody would be saying DJ more for a third and talking themselves into it. And I'm like, that is fair. No, that's fair. The word second rounder trips everybody up because the second round, it's made up. All the rounds are fucking made up. I should have just traded him for a third round pick then.

That's all I'm saying. I'm not even that against the trade. I just thought you're making it sound like we were fucking killing the bills for this. I just thought you were. You guys were screaming. No. I thought it was slightly better for the bears. I think it makes sense for the bills.

I said that. The other here, I'll scream, but. Chill. You got to pick aside, D.K. You can't sit on the fence. Daddy, chill. Well, well, Daddy, chill. Well, here's saying for DK to scream about,

DK, Ken Walker. Seahawks is Super Bowl, MVP, Ken Walker. Yeah, this is actually a reason to be said. Brutal for me and the Seahawks because I think this leaves the Seattle with almost no one at running back other than Zach Charbonneye's coming off tournage. George Hollani, baby. This is more of a tilt, I think, like Kansas City. Yeah.

So here's, here's where. This is desperate. It is. Here's where Kansas City, this is the philosophy or whatever their reasoning. for doing this is like the last couple of years. Teams have been playing them with, you know, two high coverage shells, basically daring them to run the football. And they haven't had any running backs.

I could do anything. Like Isaiah Pacheco just, you know, sprints into the back of his blockers. Well, seventh round, Isaiah Pacheco off a broken leg. And then Kareem Hahn, who I don't think would play for the other 31 teams. Right. He didn't. In fact, he was on his couch.

And so I think from their point of view, he, Ken Walker is like a holistic. This is going to help fix our whole offense, not just our run game because he's going to create explosives on the ground for us. Teams have been begging us to run the football. We'll finally be able to do it with some success and explosiveness. And then that can help them revitalize their past game, basically force teams to defend the run and get them out of those two high shells constantly.

So that's like their theory. To me, again, 14 million for two years or whatever it is, it's 15, maybe 15 million for three, average over three years. That's nothing compared to some of these like receiver contracts again. That's Jayley Naler money. Yeah, I know. This is like absurd to me. This is everything the high fits was complaining about when, you know, the giants let

Sequin leave. Yeah, they gave Sequin's fucking $12 million a year to Darius Slayton. Right. It's like fucking, I don't know. I think this is, even though the chiefs do have a ton of holes on the roster, that's, that's not debatable. I still think this makes sense for them because he's going to create explosive plays. He hasn't even been as injured as kind of people make him out to be.

He's missed a couple games a year. He didn't miss any games since last year. So I don't know. I like it. I wish the CX would have kept him. I mean, he's had a foot injury. He's played through foot injuries for like years at a time.

I love that. So Mike Evans is injury prone and Kenneth Walker is not. That's what we're deciding. Again, I didn't say that. You're putting words in my mouth. I think they're pretty close to the words that when you're out. Okay.

And he did this year. So anyway. Wait. Well, I mean, we've missed six games last year. What? Nice. He played,

he played every game this year. Yeah, well, last, I mean, 20, 24, Ken Walker missed six. I mean, he had never played a full season until last year. That was the whole knock on him as he couldn't stay healthy. He had never played a full year.

So, yeah, but I was saying it was overblown. Why? I think Craig's saying, it's not over a handful of games a year. It's not like he missed entire season. The Seahawks themselves,

I think is the point, is decided that they actually would not give Ken Walker full workload until they literally ran out of other options. They had no choice. which is why he laughed. Can we spend 20 minutes arguing if this is cool or not for the Chiefs? What do you think? Is it cool? Yeah, it's cool. Travis Kelsey's coming back.

That's less cool. This is cool, right? Giving Patrick Mahomes somebody very talented to hand the ball to. We have not seen that before. So this is exciting. I don't give a shit about the money. This is exciting. I would like to see Kenneth Walker and Patrick Mahomes next to one another. that sounds fun to me. I think that Andy Reid was just in his basement or whatever watching all the screens for Ken Walker throughout the playoffs. They're just like just, you know,

getting half job. And he just was like, I'm going to give this guy whatever the fuck it costs. Because that is really the issue with Kareem Hunt. And it's just and Pacheco is like the chief, so much of what the chief's lost too is in addition to all the receivers just sucking is they like you, Andy Reid has to have a screen game.

Like you can go back to Brian Westbrook with the Eagles. And I do think that's part of what the Ken Walker thing is too. But I don't think he's a Ken Walker and Breshares Smith are the only running backs on the roster now. Is it cool? I don't know. It's cool. Also, the Chiefs actually like need a backup quarterback.

Like Mahom's tour is A's what week did Maharmes Tears T.C. He says he'll be back for week one, but at the very least he's not like playing in training camp. Like they need a good backup. Also, this kind of confirms that the Chiefs are not taking Jeremiah Love with the ninth pick in the draft. Right. And similar, the Saints went ahead and paid a ton of, I got to tell you, I used to think I had a little bit of a grip on the Saints, the salary cap and everything. This year broke my goddamn brain.

The Saints gave Travis E.N what looks like at least 14 million a year for Travis ETN. So they claim it's 50 million. That's super fake. But they're going to give him 14 million a year for Travis Eton. And then the Saints also went inside David Edwards, who was on the Rams for a bit. And then he was on the bills last year as a guard. So the Saints actually quietly now are going to have, I think, doing it off the top of my head, a first round pick at both tackle spots. And they're paying a lot of money for David Edwards.

and then Tyler Shuck a quarterback, and now they're paying a ton for Travis ETSN, like with Chris Oliva, the Saints actually have a pretty massive amount of investment on their offense, but I don't know, DK. What did you think of Travis' ETN at the Saints? I think it makes a lot of sense.

I think Alvin Camara is nearing the end, and there's been some reports that he might even retire now. They did something weird with his contract that I had never even heard of before, so I actually think Camara might be done. Yeah, so this makes sense from that point of view. I don't understand. I'm not even going to pretend to know how the Saints work their cap.

I actually do think they're crying. They just do this every year. But I think it makes sense for a team. And this is why I think I mocked to them, germany 11, the last mocked for a team that's looking to develop their young quarterback, having a running back who can take some of the pressure off of you, create explosive plays on the ground. Again, force offense or force defense, opposing defenses to kind of respect that run

game. I think it does matter. You can argue that Travis Eton is not worth what he was paid. but he's still an explosive receiver as over a thousand yards in three out of four seasons. Sorry, explosive runner. But he also is pretty good in the passing game as well. So I don't know.

It makes sense. This to me is more just interesting because what does it mean for Alvin Camara going for it? Is he just done at this point? I mean, I think he's a giant. I think he's cap hits as big as any running back in the NFL almost. Yeah.

It's like $18 million. So he's probably going to retire. I feel like and they just kind of kept it quiet. But yeah, they have the opportunity here to have a pretty good offensive line. I mean, they've definitely invested in the offensive line over the years. Kelvin Banks was, I think, better than people expected him to be last year. They had Talese Fawga at right tackle, a couple of good interior linemen, Eric McCoy and Caesar

Ruiz. Kelvin Banks is a first-run pick at left tackle, and then Fawga, I mean, that's a first-run picket right-and-right tackle, right? Then you have a first-ser-Rosephi-old guard, and so now you have David Edwards. But yeah, I mean, overall, I mean, ATN, I do agree. If Jalen Naylor, who is the third receiver behind Justin Jordan, Jordan, Addison's getting $11 million, yeah, give Travis E. TN. 14 million dollars again like the cap is up over 300 million dollars like Todd Gurley got a 14 million dollar a year contract that's running back nine eight or nine years ago when the cap was under 200 million dollars the cap has gone up more than a third and the running back contracts are like the same thing like these are all good deals

yeah and like just surrounding your young quarterback with talent to see if it's going to work get an offensive lineman in a in a skill player I'm never going to be upset about that Is it cool, though? Do you think it's cool, Craig? It's not that cool. It's not as cool as Kenneville. Slightly less cool. Yeah, for sure.

Do you think Jags fans are sad they're losing E-TN? No. Yeah. They got Tootin. I do think Rootin's starting running back for Jacksonville. Darned Titan.

There's so many. I was going to say other things. There's so many other things. I want to talk about Dallas, before all this, stuff started. Dallas traded for Rishon Gary, who is the other kind of edge rusher for Green Bay. And they're like, it's a day three pick. Usually that means seventh round. It was a fourth rounder

in 2020. I think the Cowboys look at every day three pick as just a day three pick. They don't differentiate. We miss that. And I get, maybe the fourth round is lighter than it was in the past because of NIL. But dude, Rishon Gary, we didn't talk about this because it happened after we recorded. Rishon Gerey posted on Instagram on Friday like a goodbye to the Green Bay Packers fan base that was like Photoshopped and like very thoughtful with like giant paragraph like thank you to the fans you guys have been great you treated me well

then he deletes it and it was like I was hacked Hacked classic hacked they hacked me and made this Adam Schaefter-esque graphic design thing to share on my website Yeah it's like oh no you got hacked did they like send a DM to everyone you know and get some fishing scam and try to get everyone's credit cards and social security. No, no, no, they just posted a super sincere

heartfelt goodbye. Yeah. So he says, so Rashad Gary announces that he's being fired on Friday, deletes it, and then the Packers turn it into a fourth round pick next year so that Rishon Gary, I mean, he's still going to make his cap hit this year for Roshan Gary

is more this year than Michael Parsons's cap hit for Green Bay. Rashon Gary's cap at this year's $19.5 million. The whole point, of sending a draft pick. Like, so this is what happens everywhere. This is, so like, you know, Shefter or Ian Rappaport will be like, oh, this guy's going to get released

and the team doesn't do it yet. And it's like a giant, it's like an ad in the classified. They're like, hey, someone sent us a seventh round pick so you don't have to go get this guy in free agency. And the idea that I'm like,

were they really, did Dallas really have to send a fourth round pick next year for a guy that the Packers were literally going to cut if they did not get a deal? I feel like you don't see a four. sent for a guy. I think they're going to rework his contract almost surely.

But I mean, they can't cut him now. I mean, Minkin Fitzpatrick got dealt to the Jets and that's the division. But that was for like a sixth. There's seventh round pick. Like, I don't know. I thought that was fucking nuts. It's hard to question Jerry when he, when he foresaw Michael Parsons, Terry gets his seal. So I'm not going to question Jerry. Do you think Jerry's still cooking? Yeah, Jerry's always cooking. It's cooking in the sun. He knows where it's going to be year in advance. Other stuff to Texas Cutts Joe Mixin.

I kind of think his career is like over. He's saying, I would think so, yes. But the tech. So quickly, man.

Yeah. They kept a Neil Hunter too and Sheldon Rankin's and that thief, yeah, they just signed Ed Ingram. They're just bringing people back and hopefully Cedges Strad's brain

is, you know, not going to malfunction again in the playoffs. Another deal, well, you mentioned the Wandoe Robinson to Tennessee. What do you guys make of that? I mean,

I got, as a Giants fan. I like Wondale. Horrific. I'm happy the Giants are not paying Wondell Robinson $20 million a year. I'm like that, we don't need to do that. Again, I'm just going to say this. Free agent wide receivers make silly money.

It's crazy. The best thing you can do as a receiver is get to free agency. As a mediocre receiver is get to free agency. Like, are you confident that Wondale Robinson is the best wide receiver on the Titans right now? Like, are you confident he's the best? No. No, I mean, I think Kimmer D-K might be better than it at the end of the year. I mean, Wondell, I mean, he was not impactful.

He's good at, like, a specific thing. I would say that. And Brian Dables, the officer coordinator there, which I think was a good hire for Tennessee. And there's what all these deals are. Are guys bringing in guys that they used to work with because they know it'll work? And people don't want to spend $20 million a year on someone they've like never really met or don't know every day. So the tights bringing Wondell Robinson and the dolphins who were with Green Bay,

bringing to league willis. And like, that is how all this works. Like, again, D.J. Moore to the bills. As D.K. said, like, Joe Brady worked with D. D.G. Moore and Carolina. That is how all this works. But man, it does, I get it. Like, Cam Ward needs receivers to throw to,

and that's the biggest issue in Tennessee. But it is crazy the price that it requires to get. This is the new Christian Kirk to Jacksonville, however many years ago that was. Like, what? What's going on? Wondale Robinson making $20 million a year? I mean, he's like a perfect Tennessee Titan.

I just, he's just going to disappear and have four catches a game for 35 yards. You just know that. So now they have, so the Titans receiving room is Wondell Robinson. They have Eelich I. Manor, who's going into a second year. They have Chimari D.K., who's kind of good. And I believe led the NFL in all-purpose yards.

He did. He's a good returner. And they have Calvin Ridley, I believe, is still under contract, correct? He's probably gone. I think he's, yeah, cooked. Hold on. But Wondale's best couple games, though. Yeah, he's still under contract, I suppose.

You want a red flag, though. I mean, Wondale's games where he went ballistic were week two versus Giants Cowboys when Russell was the last great game of Russell Wilson's career. where he had 142 yards in a touchdown. But that was also like Dallas's secondary before he realized how bad Dallas's defense was. And then he also had the Lions game, where the overtime Lions game with James just firing

against the Lions defense that was just totally depleted. And then Week 17 against the Raiders, which again was the Raiders literally trying to lose on purpose, putting Max Crosby out to pasture for the season to lose and try to get the first pick, which they did. And if you take out those three games, which again, James versus the Lions defense, Russ versus the Cowboys defense

and then the Raiders literally trying to lose I think the rest of the season combined he had like 550 yards 600 yards the other 13 games it just doesn't feel like

what they needed I don't know I feel like Cam Ward needs some big guy who can go up and catch passes and like make plays down the field I don't know Wanda Robinson

just feels kind of low ceiling Yeah completely I'm looking at his numbers he had air yards per target 8.5 so underneath target

explosive play rate 13%, which is very low. Yeah, I don't see that. I don't understand this. He's a good complimentary piece. Not a guy that you make $20 million. He's supposed to make him the featured part of your offense. He's never done anything.

He's a really explosive player that was really good. And then he tore his ACL. So he came back and then you kind of lose a year because it's like the whole point of being that small and being that is being jittery and you lose the ACL. So last year was like the first year that he ever looked like he was like a worthy second round pick. But yeah, it's just the free agent tax. first round pick? No, he was the

42nd pick. But even that was, I mean, for 5 foot 8 receiver, it's kind of high to be the 10th pick of the second round and your 5 foot 8. Yeah, I mean, he's basically, he was like a part-time running back in college. Yeah. It's just, if you look

at the Titans, the free agent classes, just doesn't feel like this is going to go well. They also signed Daniel Bellinger, San Diego State legend also because he used to work with Brian Dable. Yeah. They just bring in all the giants, because that went so well. The other thing I wanted to mention. So I didn't know what to make this. So Jalen Phillips, who was the Dolphins Pass Rushier that got traded to the Eagles at the trade deadline last year, or like,

I guess that was a few months ago. And then people kind of thought that Jalen Phillips would go back to Philadelphia. He signed a four-year deal for $120 million in Carolina. Like, absolutely massive. I don't know what the real numbers are, but Jailen Phillips is getting at least $30 or $40 million a year. What did you make of this, D.K.? I got, I, I mean, it's risky because he's had the injury history, but I mean, he's a good, he's a really good pass rusher when he's healthy, and that's hard to find, especially on the open market. I understand why he got this money, but it is risky, you know, just because of his injury history even goes back to college. Like, he retired briefly for a while. He medically retired in 2018 because he had concussions.

He had some issues. He fell on a scootering around the UCLA campus. He got hurt. I mean, there were just a lot of issues for him. But he medically retired from football. And then, I mean, I remember reading your scouting report about him back. in the day. Like the biggest issue for Jalen Phillips coming out into the NFL was injuries. Right. Then he went to Miami in like NFL Miami and then tours Achilles in 2023, then towards ACL in 2024. Yeah. Then he had one healthy season in 2025 and he's getting $100 million. And I'm like, I, I don't know. Trisky. He's good when he's healthy. That's all I can say. So Jalen Phillips. I just feel like that's the most classic like I just feel like I get why

you're doing it and this isn't going to work. Yeah. Yeah. This is an injury risk guy, Craig. Got this. This is what I'm talking about when I talk about injury history. Um, but yeah, I don't know. Looking at that Panthers defensive line, though, they've got some guys on there. Um, they drafted two or three guys last year, Nick Gordon, um, princely, um, Meeleyn. I, and then now they had Jalen Phillips in there. They got Derek Brown obviously already. Um, I guess that's somewhat interesting. I, it's, hard to get excited about the Panthers. I know that they went to the playoffs and everything, but yeah. Things happen fast, though. Teams rise, teams fall. I mean, we're looking, I mean,

the lines are going to cut Taylor Decker, their left tackle. And then I forget which one he wrote in the group that the Penae Sewell, the right tackle for the Lions now is going to be the only offensive line and left for the lion since the 24 season. That is wild. How quickly things have changed in Detroit. Yeah, I mean, Frank, Frank Ragnow, the center retired. Graham Glasgow also got let go. Taylor Decker's the left tackle. Kevin's lightly moved on a year ago. So the lion signed Cade Mays at center to three years, $25 million. So $7 million a year, which again is less

than Tyler Linderbaum is going to make per year for the, for the Raiders. And then the lion's got a center, probably the second best center on the market for $7 million a year. But the lions and, you know, to a lesser extent, the Browns a little bit. It's such an interesting case study and how hard it is.

Everybody talks about, we got to get we got to build in the trenches. We got to get an great offensive line. It's so hard to build and keep a good offensive line together. I mean, look at the Browns from a couple of years ago. Like they had a bunch of first rounders on their offensive line and it was good for a couple of years. But now that group is completely falling apart.

Everybody's gone. Now the lions who, again, spent tons and tons of resources to bring in all these guys and had the awesome offensive line kept it together for like two years. And now it's completely falling apart. It's just so hard in the NFL. There's so many moving pieces, especially on the offensive line where injuries are such a huge factor every year and money. it's just really, really hard to build that and keep it together for very long at all.

The Rams speaking, which the Rams have decided to just throw a ton of money at their problems, too. The Rams, so they traded for Trent McDuffie last week. We talked about that. The Rams have since given Trent McDuffie $31 million a year, which is just, I have to wrap my mind around that. But, I mean, he's a good cornerback. Then they signed Jalen Watson, who's the other chief's cornerback. So they're bringing both chiefs outside cornerbacks in for what, I mean, basically $50 million a year for both. and not to mention the first round pick that they gave.

I will give it to the Rams. Then they extended Kim Curl at safety. So they just brought everyone back and then added two cheese quarterbacks. I feel like the Rams among every other team are better or more aggressive at addressing obvious issues than any other team of the NFL. I mean, even if you look back a couple of years, they're like, our quarterback, I don't know if we can get over the hump with our quarterback. Let's just trade for Matt Stafford to make this giant blockbuster move. Fuck it. They are so shameless when it comes.

to fixing issues and addressing issues that they have. I mean, if you look at after Aaron Donald retired, they went out and drafted a couple guys on the defensive line. And all of a sudden, the defensive line was fixed, like almost immediately. They're so good at just finding those, their, their issues and immediately rectifying it. That's feel very simple, doesn't it? Yeah. Like, well, we don't have good corners.

So we'll just give a lot of money to corners. And now we have good corners. Yeah. Turns out now that's not our biggest weakness. It's great. Greg Rosenthal pointed this out, too. NFL Daily, and he's so right, where the Rams have been most aggressive in years

where they're hosting the Super Bowl at their stadium. Like they went all in, they gave in like the two first for Chile and Ramsey and everything. Like that was the year that they had the original Super Bowl at SoFi Stadium. Rams had the Super Bowl this year again. Stan Crook of the owner, I do think cares a lot about that and I think it's more willing to go all in. And again, the Rams won the Super Bowl

their own stadium. Like, that's insane. And the Rams are going to try to do it again. A lot of all-in teams this year, man. There's going to be a real like top heavy and bottom heavy situation. It's going to be a barbell league. Dude, teams like the Jets, the Cardinals, and the Browns, it is going to be, the Tankathon is going to start quick

for those three teams. Yeah. I agree. The amount of teams that you're kind of like, wow, this really is the year versus teams that have no shot. Like last year all we talked about was the like, you know, the parody. I don't feel that way entering the season at all.

No. Other stuff, I mean, this is red. Cardinals signed Tyler Algier, which I didn't see coming for, six million a year. The Cardinals did. Yeah. So maybe,

oh, I missed that. Maybe not drafting Jeremiah Love. We're kind of crossing off teams that are going to draft Jeremiah Love. I was going to say, is it going to be the Titans or Giants? I'm telling you. It's going to be the Titans, dude.

You think it's going to be the Titans? I do. You know, it's funny, it's because I rule them out. And then you're like, nah, it's the Titans.

It really might be, though. Yeah. I think that's so terrible. I'm sorry. I know that I was, I've argued in favor of of having a running back for some of these scenes,

but that's free agency. This is, like, third. Because the reason in an nutshell is that you'll immediately pay Jeremiah love $15 million a year if you take them forth. And it's like, so at that point, just pay Ken Walker $15 million a year because the difference is, the Raiders get Mendoza for $16 million a year. But if Mendoza was good, you'd be paid $50 or $60.

So that is the argument against it. But Ken Walker is injury prone. That's true. Ken Walker, no, no. Because now you go through it and you're like, all right, the first three picks are not going to be Jeremiah, I love. Tennessee at four could do it.

The Giants are not going to do it at five. The Browns are not going to do it at six. Some people think the Giants will do it for the record. Jeremy, I think the Giants are more likely to take Jeremiah Love than you think. I was on the athletic show, the their live free agency show, and they were thinking the Giants were like the team now for Jeremiah Love. I was like, man, I hate that.

I hate that. I don't believe they're going to do that. What about Scataboo? I mean, I know he's got a long rehab coming up here. Is there any chance that the commanders take him at seven? Sure. Teams do crazy things every year. The commanders have no running backs.

They didn't do anything in free agency. Jacori Crossky, Bill Merritt is alive. How dare you? How dare you? How dare you? How dare you, sir? The man they called Bill is still playing. Who do they get the ball to Washington?

They don't need defense at all. They just, yeah. It's just outscore everyone. Commanders are quietly falling apart. It's almost like the oldest team in the NFL that was healthy for that one season is, I mean, they're just, I don't think commanders fans are super happy about things are going. Who's going to get yards on the commanders this year besides Terry McLaren. Dude. Who?

Treylin Berks, guys. Yeah. He's back. You have Luke McCaffrey. You have Traylin Burks. You're running backs. Or Jacori-Kroski Merritt. Is it Austin Echler?

He's coming off on Achilles. He's like 31. Who are they going to give the ball to? Man, is it going to be, are the commander's going to be another cautionary? tail and how to deal with a rookie, like a really valuable rookie contract in terms of like really fucking it up because obviously the first year, James Dan, it was

awesome, but yeah, it's kind of tough. Debo, Debo's gone. They re-sign Laramie Tunsel today. Yeah. They extended it. Fucking slap a running back on that league. Oh, speaking to Washington though, the commanders cut Tyler Bayadage. Beiotage. God damn it. I'm going to

shut off the fucking bridge. Bayadage. Whatever. They cut their center. Who cares his name is? His name's fucking Tyler, like all the other sevens in the NFL. They're all named Tyler.

And the charges that immediately signed him for more money. They gave him, like, Washington went to save $8 million a year, and then charges came in and gave him like $10 million a year over three years. And that isn't a big deal in and of itself. The issue is that you do what every other team does, which is you pretend to cut him, and then you trade him to the charges,

and you get a six or seven pick out of it for like a 10-minute phone call. And the fact that Washington could not get that accomplished, I think is actually the concern, which is why were they not? If the Packers could bilk the Cowboys for a fourth round pick next year when Rashon Gary had already posted an Instagram release, I don't understand how Washington could get a seventh round pick out of the charges for this, if the charges are going to give them a three-year contract. So that is, it's just the larger, what is, I don't understand what Washington's doing in their front office. There's a couple other Chargers moves, too, that happened today where they signed tight-in. Charlie Kohler from Baltimore. Yeah.

And they also, this guy's leaving the Chargers, but Zion Johnson, their guard, went to the Browns for $32 million guaranteed. $30 million deal. And they signed Alec Ingold, the fullback, Mike McDaniel, reuniting with his fullback in Miami, baby. Listen, let me tell you, I think we're going on year five of this, but the Chargers are fucking back. Charges, do you think this is the year?

Yeah, I do. Craig, you're going to do a big, like, soliloquy about how they're finally over the hump. This isn't your same old charge. This is not your father's chargers. No. And then everything is going to immediately fall apart. You know that meme, that like cartoon about gambling where it's like the guy in the mine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's like one foot away from the diamonds. And it's like, this could be you. And then it shows the guy like turning to walk back home. That's us with the charges. We are very close to striking oil. And it's this year. Sure. All right.

Any other, I mean, there's a thousand things. Anything else you guys want to talk about? It's funny. The first thing I wrote in this doc from four days ago was Miles Garrett having nine speeding tickets since 2017 because he got another speeding ticket but I'm like yeah, $170, I get it. Slow down, man.

Just stop. Just get a driver. Oh, my God, God damn it. Cordell Flot went to the Titans. God damn it. The Titans are just taking all the Giants players. The Giants are signed in Connor.

People high fits. The Giants signed. Isaiah likely is who the giant's got. I was thrilled to get it. I love Isaiah likely. And I love having him in Thea Johnson. It's just too crazy. Yeah, that's nice.

What's the deal with Isaiah likely? Reuniting with John Harrow. He likes playing 50% of the snaps. The Giants are signing Tremaine Edmins? Yeah. Oh, my God. The Giants did a linebacker is so bad. The Giants could have wiped their entire linebacker slate.

Just to get rid of all them, I would have been fine with it. I don't... Anyone is an improvement over the Giants linebackers. The Giants are also another team that we might be historically back with the Giants this year. You think the Giants... You think it's a Giants' Chargers Super Bowl? Could be. Harbao versus Harba.

True. Wow. I do think that the Giants are probably going to be everybody's sleeper team this year. I mean, I don't think they're going to be very good, but like, yeah. The Giants paid a punter. The Giants made a punter the most expensive punter in the NFL, and I'm like, that actually is such a red flag. Yeah.

Yeah. I think like the four or five win team that's going to win nine or ten games this year, a lot of people are going to pick the Giants. Fourth place schedule. Harbaugh, year two of Dart, Malik neighbors back. You think it's because of the punter they signed for $4.5 million a year?

He can really boot it. So who else is going to be the team? New Orleans? Tennessee, maybe? I don't know. No, everyone's going to be on the Giants because they're going to be like, you know, the Patriots did it last year?

This will happen again. Meanwhile, it's not going to happen. Maybe Vegas. Yeah, Vegas is fun. But Vegas is, we should just like name our 20, 27 teams right now. Chargers. Chargers and Raiders to 2020. Chargers are going to be awesome in 227.

Oh, yeah. Especially when Alec Pierce gets cut from the culture cap space and he goes to the Raiders, that's going to be so good. Okay. We're going to have another episode this week on Free Agency because there are so many deals. Anything else you guys? Any other things are just takeaways from today?

I agree that my biggest takeaway is just the post-Mahom's ACL Chiefs, AFC, and all these teams seeing the Patriots that Drake may make a super. I really do think the flashed their midlife crisis in front of all these teams and the bills and the ravens and everyone's just freaking out Yeah, this is their year you got to go for it Chris Godwin tweeted a sad face because oh man I love this godwin Back to work Joe are we back in on Godwin this year by the way no What about Abuka who who's gonna catch passes the Bucca okay

We'll see. I'm gonna, Abuka's gonna be my number more guy for fantasy, I can tell. Everyone's like, what happened to him? Like, it got hurt. Yeah, he was hurt. Brian Cook, to the Bengals. They do need defensive players.

Yeah, they need that. So I can see that. Everyone's just taking the chief secondary. I know. I was given Josh Downs to the, to the Bengals. I guess maybe. Josh Downs? You mean Caleb Downs.

Who do I keep calling him that? Yeah. Well, they're brothers. Caleb Downs. That's true. They're brothers. I don't feel that bad. But yeah, no, I kept giving Caleb Downs to them.

And I suppose I could still do it, but that might make it a little less likely. Do you guys want an email? You want to just go? Yeah, give me an email. All right, let's see. Cleanse my palate. First, man, I guess there's a lot, man. First of all, we're talking about thinking eating cassidias every day.

Skip Bayless eats chicken and broccoli from a local Chinese restaurant every single day for 14 years. Macros king, chicken and broccoli every day. That seems a little, that's probably a little bit more healthy than what. Skip is also weirdly ripped for a man in his mid-70s. So he works out, he's done cardio every day for an hour for 17 years. No, since 2003. Yeah. But then he, I guess during the week at ESPN or he used to, he would live in a comfort in,

in Bristol Connecticut during the week, Monday to Friday. And so he didn't really have a kitchen or anything. So he would just eat chicken and broccoli every day and got used to it. So now it's been like 17 years in a row of meeting chicken and broccoli every day for lunch. Craig, you mentioned he's weirdly ripped. Yeah. As I age, I don't want to turn into the weirdly ripped guy because I think that's like a little creepy. There's a fine line between being in good shape when you're older and being like, that guy looks weird.

He's weirdly, weirdly ripped. I think, I think after 60, you don't need a bicep vein. What are you saying to RFK Jr., Craig? I don't think he needs it. Like, there's only a certain, once you get to be a certain age, I don't want to see your veins. No. I don't want to see some much vascular activity

Because you go from Wow, that guy's really healthy to wow, I actually think this might be bad for him Right. This looks like you're about to explode. Craig, can you do your RFK Jr? Defending your vein?

I like working out in jeans. Ugh. That always kind of hurts a little bit. I imagine it does for him as well. Have you guys seen, dude, Skip? I don't know why I still follow Skip, but on Twitter now, I don't know how long he's been doing this,

but he posts like 10 minute videos. Oh, yeah. Him and his wife, Ernestine. Ernestine and I debate. Was the Iran war worth it? And what's the best cupcake frosting flavor? What the fuck is going on? We are living in a simulation.

It's confirmed. I got to get Ernestine's take on this. Back to the Monroe Doctrine and also Ernestine likes red velvet. It doesn't make any sense. He's like the best at titling. It's honestly like our titles, to be honest. It's like serious, less serious, ridiculous.

He gets it, man. He gets it. He does get it. He's a pro. I just love the ones where he just takes his jersey and throws it in the garbage. Oh, yeah, those are good. He like shakes his head. He doesn't talk.

He just starts the camera. Dernstein's holding the camera for him. Yeah. I like that. His ordnation. I found out his right of the apartment. I thought her name was fur. for a little bit because I couldn't tell what he was saying.

It's Ernestine, right? He'll have his wife named Fern, but it's Ernestine. Great name. Anyway, he'll have her turn on the camera. He stares into the camera, holds up his jersey, storms off, finds the garbage, stuffs it in, camera off. No words. ABC cancels Jimmy Kimmel and New York Bagels overrated?

What? All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, the Ravens for content. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Abu.

Thank you, everyone for listening. Emails at Rearfinacyfutball.g,mil.com. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, childish Gambino. Nice. Nice. I was listening to the Stay Woke song the other day.

That's a banger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy that that all kind of, he kind of did. Speaking of things someone just did. He kind of just did that, and then it was going to get out. now it's woke. Well, yeah. But that's kind of crazy that it's just a thing.

Glover, one of the more impressive careers. Oh, yeah. For somebody who kind of just can do like writer, actors, singer, songwriter, kind of just can do it all. A little threat threat. I never watched the Mr. Mrs. Smith show that he did on Amazon,

but I heard it was good. Oh, I watched a couple episodes. I like it. I need to keep watching it. I need to finish it. I didn't like it enough. No, that's not. an indication that I didn't like it because I just don't watch shows very much anymore.

But yeah. He was funny on community. He used to have a YouTube channel way back in the day called Derek Comedy that I used to watch with my buddies. Really? Yes. And it really has done everything. Really funny sketches back in the day with Donald Glover and like two other guys.

He was also Landau Calrizian. Yeah. I mean, he's had a crazy career. I love Childish Gambito. But his stand-up was also good. Like his stand-up is also just really funny. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't love community as much as other people, but I also didn't make it past season one and then everyone gets mad at me for that, but I'm like, I know I need to watch the later seasons, but... Which is funny. It was overhyped. Well, yeah, I guess. Not overhy, but I just got too much hype

before I watched it. It's very culty and it's people feel protective over community. Honestly, in the same way. I mean, it's the same guy. It's Dan Harmon. It's your fucking Rick and Morty guy. And I feel like people feel the same way about Rick and Morty as a do about community where it's like very,

it's theirs and no one else's. but the yeah everyone tells you to watch it and then you're like oh well how could this possibly I think with with community too it's some of the payoff is in the later seasons where all the like inside jokes are coming back and things like that you know

it was kind of like a rest of development in a way is that our house there's so many bits what no just is that that looks like our house it was kind of like the hipster comedy to like on NBC during that stretch when it was like the office and parks and wreck and 30 Rock and like that was

normie comedy and then community was for like you know the underground people who really understood the people with taste yeah people with taste and i'm tasteless i'm just like kai you just you're the lowest common denominator hyphenz you just like the dumb shit i liked community i did not like it as much as those other three shows i just named dude i had i had a friend in high school gave to the entire thing to me on like well i guess i shouldn't say that but well it's not a usb he was fine it was 20 years ago i think it's all right yeah i think They're not going to throw up roadbox for you. Wanted me to watch it so bad.

And it was like, it's fine. He was crushed. Is there anything worse than that? Yeah, it's all right. You know that feeling of like when you play a song for someone that you really like? And you kind of just have to sit there and just kind of wait. You're like, yeah. I know what I mean?

It's like putting on a YouTube video for somebody. This is really funny. Watch this. You're so vulnerable. It's like they have to. 15 seconds in, you're fucking sweating your balls off. We don't have to watch it. We can turn off.

I wish you had never said it. Watch when you get home. Delete this memory. That's a, my, a lot of my friends joke, the women joke that like when a man shows you a YouTube video, just like in their culture, like that's a sign of great respect. Right. Right. Like when a man shows you a YouTube video.

He's letting you into his world. It's true. Yeah. It's very true. It's very similar to like the in a couple where typically, I don't. know if it's typical, but generally speaking, like, I like different reels than Skippy likes in terms of on Instagram and stuff. So when we share it with each other's reels. God damn it, Craig. It's not all Amanda C-friede, right? It's other stuff. It's funny stuff.

Your word's not mine. I wasn't thinking about her. I thought you were going to talk about football, but okay. Oh. Oh. I thought you're saying there's a lot of football clips. Sure, sure. No, but it's like, just like you can hear each other cracking up in the other room. And then, Like you're like, I just said something to you and you're like, oh, God. I will say, I think true intimate modern friendship is just sending your friend like memes back and forth via DM and not responding. That is like the highest level of intimacy. Maybe like put a little like on there or something. Even that might be too much.

Yeah. You just sit down at dinner. Like, did you watch the memes that sent you, honey? No. I'm a little behind on those. Yeah, yeah. You didn't see their opening a bell. bagel shop down the street. I saw you that meme.

Punch the monkey. The monkey is, is the other monkeys aren't being nice to this monkey. Did you not see? Skip Bayliss is talking about the Iran war. You didn't see the TikTok I sent you? Skip and Ernestine. The war. I don't want to know. I do want to know the cupcake thing.

I do want to know the cupcake is on Iran. I think Craig just sends us Clifton says, this is 15 minutes long. It's unbelievable. They're so long. I think they're, I have no one to talk to about this. Sometimes I watch them. No one has time to watch a 15 minute skipping Eristine clip.

Dude, he just posted a clip. This was a few days ago. With Megan, this is a seven minute clip of him and his wife. With Megan the Stallion making her Broadway debut, I respect her achievement in her work because she has achieved a lot. And anyone who achieves to that level gets high marks from me because it's hard to get where she is. And it's six minutes of them talking.

about Megan the Stallion on Broadway. No one's doing it like him. Probably for good reason. DK, what are you going to talk about Megan, the Stallion on Broadway? That's a good question. Oh, actually, here we go. March 4th.

Ernestine and I share our thoughts on the war on Iran. How's six minutes long? Six and a half minutes. I'm going to dive into that. Goodbye, everyone. Must be 21 plus and present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus and present in D.C., Kentucky, or Wyoming. Gambling problem?

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