The Ringer NFL Show - Giants Start Dart, Power Ranking the Best Fantasy Buy-Low Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and Farm Time With Craig

Episode Date: September 24, 2025

It’s Power Hour! The guys rank trade targets you should buy low on. Then they rule on a case in Fantasy Court and answer a few emails. (00:00) Intro(01:32) Giants starting Jaxson Dart(14:48) Power ranking buy-lows(19:04) Ladd McConkey(22:43) RJ Harvey(25:56) Chase Brown(29:36) Brian Thomas Jr.(40:27) Breece Hall(43:57) Ashton Jeanty(46:10) Calvin Ridley(50:26) Matthew Golden(53:24) TreVeyon Henderson(01:00:06) Ringer Fantasy League update(01:02:36) Fantasy Court(01:07:45) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] The all-new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. Get the new iPhone 17 Pro at Verizon. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Ronak Nair Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome with the Rear Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyattfordson. I'm joined by Danny Kelly of Craig Gorbic. And today it is Power Hour, where we power rank something every Wednesday. This week we are power ranking trade candidates. These are players you should buy low on after three weeks into the season. We're also going to talk news because Jackson Dart is going to start for the New York Giants, baby. And then we're going to do fantasy courts, some emails.

And I think we're getting a little farm time with Craig. Craig spent a week on a farm or whatever now. Farm time. You know, the coastal elites are getting. farm time and I can't wait for farm takes. He's getting his hands dirty finally. Coastal elites. How dare you? You live in Washington, D.C.

Yeah, me too. Yeah. New York, D.C. L.A.? Yeah, that's pretty, yeah. Farm time with the coastal elites. Coming up. But first, trade candidates and also we're going to take a quick break. This episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show is presented by Hyundai. The all-new Hyundai-Palachate hybrid proves that an incredible SUV is so much more than the sum of its parts. It's more than a spacious interior.

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But first, I don't care about any of that. Jackson Dart is going to start for the New York Giants. in week four against the charges. You know, D.K., do you want to hear the cold, dark truth about whether starting your rookie quarterback to save your season, to save your head coach's job, to save your franchise and your fan base's interest in your team, or do you want to watch Jackson Dart hit some dingers? Diggers! Dingers!

Dingers! Look, it can't get much worse than the offense that we saw last week. So there's at least that. I mean, it can always get worse. We've learned that one. Yeah, but I like to think on the bright side. So at the very least, Jackson Dart is going to be able to scramble around a little bit,

present a different type of style to defenses that Russell Wilson simply cannot bring anymore. Probably won't even hit the goalpost with a single pass all season. Do you think it was that fourth down, or that goal line series that really cemented it for Russell Wilson? Or was this kind of the plan all along? Honestly, yes, I do. I can't unsee that.

Throwing it away. I can unsee it. I mean, Sunday day football, the Giants had the ball at the goal line with down 15 with three and a half minutes left, which again, isn't impossible. Especially with the Giants defense is playing. You score a touchdown. And Russell Wilson threw the ball with three of four plays.

He literally threw it into the tunnel. He threw it into the tunnel. He threw it and hit the other goalposts with the other two plays. At that point, I mean, they're 0.3. Your odds of making the playoffs, I think, are like 3%. Oh, and four, it's basically zero. The entire season's already over. Benching Russell Wilson's easy.

I think the question is like, you should put James Winston in, whoever. I hope Jackson Darts ready. I'm excited. I'm in season. I'm going to just hope and pretend this is a great idea. And if he plays well, then this is awesome. Maybe Brian Dable can save his job. If Darts plays like ass, then it's like clearly Dable just is trying to save his cheeks.

But I don't know, Craig. I'm purely just excited about this, but do you think this is something dumb teams do or do you think Dart is just a first round quarterback and should play? I think most of the time, we discussed this in August. Most of the time if he's going to be good, he's going to be good. Whether it takes

a little extra time, like, if dart's going to work out, it doesn't matter when you play them, whether it's week four, week seven, or week 11. They're bringing him in. Everybody, you know, the giants have the hardest schedule in the league. And so the thought was like, when can you even bring him in? It basically doesn't get easy until week 13

when they play the Patriots or something like that. or week 10 against the bears. They're bringing them in against the Chargers. And then the next week they play the Saints. But then it gets really dicey. It's Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners, Bears, Packers, Lions. Oh, my. I think the Giants fans needed this and you have to do this and it's totally fine.

And honestly, this might be a nice middle. Because if Dave all waited until like week 13 to start Dart, and he was like, okay for five weeks, the Giants go four and 13. there's an argument that Daible should get to come back because this is the guy he drafted. You need to see. But now, week four,

he's going to get 13, 14 games at Jackson Dart. If Daibol sucks and is terrible, maybe there's a chance that they kick Daibol out if Dart doesn't perform in these 14 weeks. I agree with that. I agree with that totally. Dart,

man, I hope he's good. I really just hope they don't screw him up, honestly. I, the, you know what's nice about Darry? I feel like a lot of times with rookies, you know, I mean, we saw with Caleb, it was like, I don't know, is he a leader? Did the teammates like him? Like, what's actually going on?

It seems like everybody loves Jackson Dart. The vibes with the Giants, although the team is terrible, is like weirdly not that bad. We were joking about doing a power ranking of the worst vibes in the league. And like the vibes on the Giants, to me, are not bottom five in the league, even though they're a bottom five team. I mean, they like Jackson Dart. It seems like the teammates like one another. I like at least that the guy coming in to play quarterback. is maybe the most liked quarterback on the team

even though he's a rookie. I like that. Just to zoom out for a second on the Giants. Let's say for a second, dart's actually good. I know I'm a little biased, but I look at the Giants and to me, you know I've been pretty realistic about this team for the most part.

In the heat of the game, I get excited, but like I'm pretty realistic about them. And I do think this team is different than even a few years ago because you look, you're like, Dexter Lawrence,

Brian Burns, Abdel Carter are like blue chip defensive linemen pieces at the hardest spots to find. And then you look at Andrew Thomas as a legit left tackle, Malik Neighbors is a legit wide receiver. That is like five really important blue chips at five important spots. Cam Scadabo is a fun player that will be in a good rookie contract.

That is hard to find and frankly progress and it is easier to find all the auxiliary pieces. And Giants fans, what we're telling ourselves is if Dart is good, you fix the offensive line. Everything else you can figure out. You can figure out receivers after your number one guy. You can figure out cornerbacks. like the Giants have defensive line, you just need the offensive line. But if Darts good,

that is at least what I'm telling myself. Yeah, I mean, I think the, what you can get out of this season, I think is like a narrative thing. And it's like you're building the foundation of what will be like the new version of the Giants after basically being terrible for a really long time. And like you said,

there's good foundation, there's some good skill players. There's some reasons to be excited. Scadaboo is looking awesome so far. You know, obviously there's tons of talent on the defensive line. But I think you have to be realistic about Dart too. Like you keep saying if he's going to be good.

I think there's going to be extreme highs and lows with him. You've got to just be ready to kind of weather it, especially with this upcoming schedule of very, very hard defenses. These defenses make good, experienced veteran quarterbacks look silly. So like, just be ready for some highs and lows. On that note, the Chargers of all the teams to put him in against, the Chargers, they're undefeated. Herbert looks amazing on offense.

And so the Chargers' defense looks like one of the better units in the entire NFL. Yeah. It's a little terrifying. To be honest, they're kind of, I mean, honestly, I, I, DK, am I cynical for thinking, you know, players sometimes they're like, oh, he made a business decision? You know what I mean? He's thinking about it. I look at this.

This is a business decision. This is the head coach knowing that they need to throw ownership of bone and get the fans engaged again. They need to keep butts in seats and they need to get people excited about this team. And also, they can't start 0 and 4 or people will once again stop coming to these games. games throughout because that is ultimately what the owners care about is they notice when seats are empty. Am I cynical for thinking that? You like in terms of this is more just about like getting fans excited than actual creating buzz.

Is this like if you're trying to win this week, are you playing James or like is this the responsible thing to do? I think so actually. I mean, it's there there is the discussion. You have to take this into account like the idea that you can ruin a quarterback's confidence. That's always kind of in the back of your mind. but at the same time I think that

among the veterans on the team and basically everyone on the team like what's the point of playing Russell Wilson anymore kind of you know what I mean like what's the fucking point what are we doing here? It can't be a situation with James Winston what's the point of playing James right now

like this is not a playoff team you need to see what you have in Jackson Dart wait a week till they play the Saints sure no it's not about just keeping a cupcakes thing I guess I just I think I'm more into like rookies should probably sit more than most people.

I'm okay. Like Tom Brady sat, Aaron Rogers sat, Patrick Rahm's sat for here, which no one remembers. In particular, probably should sit. Yeah,

and I'm like, I'm a little bit like, I understand you maybe like, tick talk on the clock, like you want to get the guy, but part of me is maybe the Giants just don't have the coaching stability to do that, but that alone is why organizations stay bad.

I guess it's like, if he's good, that's awesome. And if he's bad, I'm going to be like, well, maybe he needed more time in the oven. But we'll see.

I mean, I'm excited, I'm excited, but I'm also a little nervous. The charges these good. I'd be worried about his confidence. That's the main thing. But at the end of the day, the expectations are zero right now for the giants.

Like, no one expects them to be good. No one expects them to be. It's not just confidence. It's bad habits that can form behind bad offensive lines. That's also the fear. Yes, that's true. But I'm also, it's, I mean, it's impossible. This is an impossible decision because I also think playing is good.

Like, you're going to get experience. Like, it helps to have experience, period. There's a very, it's a fine line to walk, though, because obviously, like you said, confidence issues, you could get hurt, you could develop bad habits. Those things are real. But I also think, like, going in there and getting some reps and getting, you know, just experience is a good thing, generally speaking. So it's an impossible question to answer. This is actually, you know, we'll see how this goes. But there is, I don't think, one established right way to do it.

Overall, I still feel the way I did when they drafted them, which is that the taking Jackson, it's a bet on Brian Dable, not DART. It's a bet that Dable developed Josh Allen, and they're going to develop DART, except DART isn't Josh Allen. And also Josh Allen took three years. So I'll hope, I really hope this works. Honestly, I would like to enjoy watching the Giants play football again.

It's also in the context of Daniel Jones going to Indianapolis. And, I mean, if he beats the Rams and go four and O, and DART looks like shit. You know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of ways that this Sunday could go. We forget that Josh Allen was terrible. Horrible for a while years. He was really bad.

I even remember that. Texans game. I think it was the playoffs his second year. He was awful. And that's the thing. Josh Allen was bad for a long time. And if this doesn't work with Dart, I could see a world where Daible gets fired. A new coach comes in. That doesn't work. Dark goes somewhere else. And he looks good for the cults too. It'll be the only

players since 2007 didn't punt five times in three weeks. It'll be Daniel Jones, Dart for the cults and, you know, Tom Brady. So we'll see. Hi, Hifitz, is it fun at least to have something going on? unbelievably fun. I am overjoyed. You know, for the next five days, you get to be pretty excited, and that's something.

He's going to be looking forward to watching this game. I'm honestly, I think I was way more excited privately when this happened, and now I'm getting on the show, and I'm like, I felt this way so many times at the Giants recently that I feel stupid, and I think I'm trying to, like, hide how excited I am about this. I'm irrationally excited, but I also know I'm a little, I'm kind of worried they're going to get rocked. Either way.

Question, question, question, before we wrap it up, what do you do with this guy for fantasy? This is probably more of a two-tide, or sorry, a two-quarterback slash super flex question. I think, DART, you could play. I mean, I wouldn't play him in week one. His first career start in orderly. So he runs so much that I feel like it's, you know.

He hasn't have any passes this season. He's coming just to hand the ball off and run. Like they had packages for him. Like, he's going to run. And again, I think rookie quarterbacks in particular, if they manage to get to the goal line, when shit goes, hits the fan, they run. So I think Dart, like Daniel Jones a few years ago,

could be weirdly great in fantasy. Like, even if it's like a Justin Field situation from four years ago where it's like, he sucks, but the running alone could make him fantasy work. you know, Blake Bortals was a good fantasy quarterback, you know. So you think it's weird that Dayball didn't design any throws for DART when he came in in in the first three games that they were all runs. I don't know.

I'm sure at least one of them was like an RPO or something and maybe it wasn't there. But overall, I just think it was weird when he put him in. I put him in his first career, I think it was weird that he put him in in such a high leverage situation, which maybe that was the point. But he put him in the Cowboys game. It was, I think it was like a big third down or something. And I just thought it was bizarre. But we'll see.

I mean, look, I hope he's got it. The last thing I want to say before we go is just a reminder to everybody that Jackson dart told the story that his parents were going to name him diesel. And then he popped out and his parents looked at him in the operator in the delivery room. And they're like, he doesn't really look like a diesel. And they named him Jackson. And then they named his little brother, diesel. He looks like a diesel. Yeah.

Little brothers at diesel. Do we have a picture of diesel dart or diesel? Yeah, just Google Diesel Dart. Okay. Because I really want to know what diesel dart looks like now. He is a football player. Yeah. He plays on,

he plays defense. Uh, corner canyon. My God. The Dart family, they like to have their little, uh, pieces of flare,

don't they? Yeah. He kind of looks like Jeremiah from somewhere I turn pretty. Dart does. Like, dart's got his, his big old chain. Diesel here has very distinctive glasses.

Yeah. So it's quite the, they like their accessories. I hope these people are, my life for 20 years. So with that said, any other news you guys wanted to hit? Craig, what was the fake?

You got NBA Sinteld? You were like, we have huge news to hit. Don't look. And then you're like, sorry, fake. I thought that Mariah Carey was performing at the Super Bowl halftime show. That appears to be false. Is the fact that it hasn't been announced

in and of itself evidence that might be Taylor Swift? They've announced that the week of week one for like a long time. I don't think it's going to be Taylor Swift. Well, they're late. It's weird that they're late. Oh, you don't? No. The Chiefs suck.

I just don't think she's going to do it. The NFL's pulling the plug on this. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, it's kind of messed up. It'd be weird for her to perform. Like the last game of the NFL season in which Travis Kelsey is retiring if the Chiefs suck. I just don't think, I don't know. It feels like a weird move for her.

Okay. All right. I want to get to now to just buy lows and just trade advice. And I want to start with just kind of like zoomed out for a second about just like general trade advice, which I think is always helpful for people, which is maybe it's basic and obvious. But contact all the win list. teams in your league. Anyone is 0 and 3 or even 1 and 2? No one wants to trade.

Just 3 and 0. Go full vulture mode. Circle like a vulture. Really? People are panicking. Unless you have James Connor, 3 at 0 and even 2 and 1, people are feeling good. Oh and 3 people are like bat down the 1? Yeah. Shoot them like a hey. How are you looking to improve your team? Like how are things going? What do you need right now? Yes. Hey man.

Help them. Are you doing okay? Yeah. I'm reading Don't Kill Myself Books. Yeah. That's always tough. And don't be the guy who sends garbage trade off. No, don't be a low ball guy. Because then eventually people does the three for one like hey, Kion Coleman, Kamani Vidal and Hunter Henry for Brock Bowers. Don't do that. Don't. Literally all that happens from that is three pieces of shit for your good player. All that happens from that is people eventually just stop taking you seriously. And then even when you want to make a fair trade, no one wants to deal with you ever because they

just know all they know about you is you make bad offer. So don't be that guy. And then no one's going to text you back. The other thing I'll say is just why are we doing this episode now? And I think it's, we're doing this for a couple years now. There's the five fantasy stages of grief for a player. Week one is denial. It's week one. Who cares?

Week two is like anger. You're like, why does Ashton Gentie have no blocking what is going on? Week three is bargaining. That's when people are like, maybe I could flip Ashton Gentie for someone who doesn't suck. Like that is when it starts. And all that leads to a very important thing for me, which is what does a bilo mean? And to me, it's really simple. like Bilos put the Ewe in value.

Like literally if the person doesn't kind of regret drafting the player, it doesn't count. Because there's no. This was a good catchphrase. I just, well, whatever, man. It's good. Also, you're jealous. It's good. You didn't finish the five stages because then you bargain.

If you can't trade Ashton Genty, the next stage is depression where you're just stuck with Ash and Genty. And then the fifth and final stage is acceptance where you're like, well, I guess I'm just starting him all year. Yeah. And you get basketball starts, baseball playoffs is going on my five. You're like, watch the World Series. man, yeah. Like, yeah, no, you really do want to keep the five stages going, but I can't stress

enough, some of these players were suggesting, you're going to be like, ugh, him? Yeah, that's the point. That's why it's on sale. Like, if, and I think an example to me is Sequin Barclay is underperforming. Sequin Barclay is like the 13th running back through three weeks. Sequin Barclay is not discounted. Like, no, if you try to trade for Seqwan, he does not cost significantly less than he did three weeks ago. Not at all. Ashton Genty, who is not a top 30 running back, who has yet to have a good game in the NFL, the person who took him really regrets that,

and it absolutely costs less to get Ash and Genty than it did three weeks ago. That's kind of the point. And so if there isn't an element of disgust or shock at who we're talking about, it probably isn't that easy to get them, unless they're on an 0-3 team. Yes. It's like if you're mild, like, somebody like Nico Collins, who's like mildly underperforming,

you're not going to be able to send some garbage offer for Nico Collins. You need to only target people who are truly terrible right now. Especially also if they're like a first-run pick, people just are irrationally attached to their first-round picks or players on their favorite team. Like, you know, don't just, like, you know, Jamar Chase, it's harder to get. You know what I mean?

It's just, anyway. With that said, yeah, we'll get to these guys. And a lot of these guys have sucked enough that they're probably on a lot of the O-N-3 and one-two teams. So without further ado, we're going to do this power our style. And for those who don't know, we're going to put two minutes of the clock and every two minutes.

you're going to hear this sound. Yeah. What a song. I want that at half time. Can you imagine if Mariah Carey did the halfton show? And she played fantasy? That would be on my name. All right.

I'm going to, I power rank these. If you don't like the order, well, I made the order. So it's just yell at me. But yeah, you guys sent me who you picked

and then I ordered them. So just if you don't like the order. I'm surprised this guy's number one. I'm doing it. Well, that that's like the whole point, to be honest. So we're starting with number one, DK, you sent me. Number one by low.

after three weeks in fantasy football, Ladd McConkey on the Chargers. Yeah, Craig, first off, why are you surprised? Because... What context you mean, I mean? Well, I guess I think Ladd's a good player, but I think that what we're seeing out of Keenan Allen and Quentin Johnson is real. And so I'm just, I don't really see a path where Ladd McConkey just takes over unless one of those guys gets hurt.

But I'm curious what your argument is. Okay, so first of all, the Chargers are not the Chargers. I think a lot of people picture when they say the Chargers as a really run-heavy, balanced slog of a team. This is a team that passes a lot. They are second in the NFL and pass rate over expectation after three weeks, according to fantasy points. Herbert has 108 pass attempts, which is seventh most in the NFL.

So this is a good environment for receivers. There's a lot of passes to go around. There's very good quarterback, and a lot of big plays are there to be had. Ladd right now, obviously, is started slow. He's third on his team in total target rate. But if you look deeper at like first-rearget rate and some of his his separation scores, it's clear to me that he's still a very good player. And the, I just believe that the target rate that we see right now where he's number three on

the team is going to basically normalize and he's going to end up being probably the first overall by the end of the season in target rate. So right now, he, Ladd has run the most routes on the team, 119. He's second on the team in first street target rate, which is 25%, which is a good number. He has 21st Street targets according, sorry, Quinn Johnson has 20. Ladd has 19. So these, like, he's still a very big focal point of the offense. It just kind of hasn't worked out for him.

He has the best separation score on the team, according to fantasy points, best route win rate. He's a good, yeah, creator, but he hasn't really gotten a chance to do that much so far. I just think it's just been one of those weird things where he hasn't gotten as many big play opportunities as the other two guys have, and that's going to normalize this year goes on. I actually think he will end up being the highest targeted player on this team. I mean, he better. That's kind of the point, though.

I think Craig, your surprise, though, is the reason he's a good by-low. Someone took him thinking they were going to get a steal, and they're like, oh, my God, I see the number three receiver in this team. And those people are probably thinking of benching him. And that's kind of a huge thing is if you're thinking, like, if you look at someone's, no, it looks crazy, but if someone's added Quentin Johnson, and they have Quentin Johnson and they're looking at, most people are kind of glancing, and they see Latt has 10, 7, and 6 points, And Quentin Johnson's like the number three receiver in all fantasy right now.

And they're like, how many weeks in a row can I keep benching Lad? Or sorry, can I keep benching Quentin? And at some point, I think you can swoop in. And I do think overall Ladd will be the guy who's the leader in this team. Yeah, I saw Matt Harmon making this point. And I couldn't agree more. He's like, I think right now, Quentin Johnson's the wide receiver four and Keenan is the wide receiver five. And then Lad is like the wide receiver 40 or something like that.

And that is not going to be. how it ends up at the end of the year. That's like where I'm making this bet. I feel like all of those guys, you're right. I mean, them being 4-5 versus Ladd at 40s nuts, but to me, I see that all centering with like all of them are in like the wide receiver 20 to 30 range and it will be hard for Lad to separate himself. It's just my view. Yeah, that's fair. And I think to be clear here, I'm not necessarily saying Ladd is going to end up being a wide receiver one on the year, being like a really elite fantasy player. This is more like, this is more like, I think there's a chance to buy value here.

And he's coming at a big discount because I think people are scared. He is far away than a wide receiver three on his team so far. And I think people are willing to start panicking a little bit on this. Number two, fantasy bylaws after three weeks. Craig, you submitted R.J. Harvey, the rookie running back for the Broncos. Yeah, but he's been incredibly disappointing, unstartable through the first three weeks of the season. And this has kind of gone the way we have expected.

The J.K. Dobbins thing is working for a dentistry. Denver right now. He's playing very well. But if you look at how much RJ Harvey's playing, it's like he's basically playing a third of the snaps and he's a complimentary piece in the offense. But this stuff takes a while. D.K. has always been big on like weight on rookies, wait on rookies, wait on rookies. Sean Payton has a great history with running backs drafted this early guys that he goes after. And if you look at, I think I test, R.J. Harvey looks good. Some of the underlying metrics, R.J. Harvey looks good. Harvey has the lowest yards before contact per rush on the team, yet he has the best yards after contact per rush on the team.

And what we're seeing with J.K. Dobbins, this is what J.K. Dobbins does. He did this last year. First two weeks of the season last year, he had 260 yards. He averaged nine yards of carry on the charges, the first two weeks last year. After that, he averaged 55 yards per game, three and a half yards per carry, and then he got hurt. I'm not wishing that on J.K. Dobbins or anything, but I do think that he's a guy who slows down as the season goes on. And if you combine that with, like, the natural trajectory of rookie running backs, uh, I, I'm not. I'm I think it's kind of easy to get R.G. Harvey right now, to be honest. Yeah.

I think people are sick of him. I was going to say this is nice because it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg to get him. I think the thing that is really key here, and again, like, obviously I've gone off on Sean Peyton in the past based on his just sort of capricious attitude towards playing guys in different weeks or whatever. But he did say the other day that eventually he wants to go to a two-man rotation at running back versus a three-man. The big impediment right now for R.J. Harvey is less. Dauvin's and more Tyler Badee. Well, and last week we saw, is it Badee?

Yeah, apparently he's going by Bidde. Well, it's because he just want to be Badi. But he's a Badi. Tyler Badi. Badey. I like Badey. Badey. He barely played last week. Like Warren Badee. Yes. He barely played last week, which was a good sign.

Yeah, and so basically, if you look at some of the numbers on the season, that's good that last week he was phased out a little bit, but like on the season, he's getting 35% of the third down work. It's 24% of the long down and distance work, which means he's getting a lot of the passing down stuff that would be more valuable to Harvey. And I agree with Craig completely that Harvey looks good. Like he is a good player.

This is where I was with Ladd too. It's like betting on talent and betting on a normalization and evening out of usage. I think those are things that you want to buy a low on. And so I think he's a talented player. He's obviously highly drafted by them. And he's looked good so far. It's not like he looks lost.

So I think those are all good factors. I like that one a lot for Harvey. And to that point, I think people need running backs, and it's hard to identify running backs that people will trade away because the reality is every year we get here and people want to send receivers for running backs.

People like, but I need the running back. Harvey is a good example of a guy that actually might, you know, be available. And that's why I put it so high. Because if you're 3 and O and you are 2 and 1 and you have the chance and you need a running back, I think it's doable. On that note, I have my,

one of my favorite bylaws right now is just the Bengals, but specifically Chase Brown, the running back. And then also I think, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to a different degree. But I just think this is like an easy one. The Bengals just got rocked. Chase Brown was such a popular preseason sleeper. Joe Burrow, his injury hurts, obviously.

But Chase Brown's stats, he has 12, 8, and 7 points this season. It's the number 31 running back behind Quinn Sean Judkins, who like just signed with the bank, with the Brown. He's behind Jacori Kroski Merritt. You know what I mean? It's pretty concerning. That's rough.

Also, the thing, the blurb test, we talk about this all the time. It is like 10 times. No one makes a trade without clicking on the guy's blurb. It is 10 times easier to trade for a guy whose blurb is negative than positive, which sounds like a joke, but it's true. If the blurb is all like, he's going to get better. So, D.K., with that said, will you do me a favor?

I put, I just sent it to you. Will you read, I'm sitting in the truth, will you please read this blurb right now live on Yahoo for Chase Brown? Yeah, Chase Brown rushed 10 times for three yards in the vangles, week three loss, the Vikings adding four receptions for 17 yards. Here's the advice. All righty then. at least wasn't one of four bengals

to turn the ball over, though he did fumble. His team just recovered it. Brown has been stupendously awful through three games thus far, taking the rock 47 times for 93 yards, less than two yards of carry. I love how personally slanted these are. Clearly this person just like has

a lot of Chase Brown is just fucking pit. Stupendously awful. If you're just someone who like it's just going about, you're just like a random accountant in a fantasy league and you're like, I don't follow this all day. You're like,

how is Chase Brown doing? And you click that, You read that. Holy shit, I should trade him away. He's stupacly awful. I will say. But to the point, the usage is phenomenal. He's on the field two-thirds of the time.

Same amount of carries as Bejan Robinson this season. He's the, Chase Brown's the goal to go rusher. The problem is just the Bengals have sucked, but it's like, okay. And I will say it's been bad. Chase Brown, 47 carries the season 93 yards. Next-gen stats has him with negative 54 yards before contact.

It's Chase Brown and Ash and Jente as the guys with the negative. But they're only two running backs with negative yards for contact. But I will say, Kyle Borg. I don't know how to say his name. Kyle Borgeni had the stat. Chase Brown's the old. only running back in the last 25 years to get 45 carries through three games and not get 95 rushing yards, which is pretty crazy.

But overall, week one was like Joe Burrow was there, but played the Browns, which now we realize that's fine. Like the Browns kept Derek Henry. Browns have a really good defense. Yeah, the Browns kept Josh Jacobs to 30 yards. Chase Brown did better than that, actually. Then week two, all right, Burrow gets hurt in the middle of the game. And then week three, okay, the Vikings are one of the best defensive performances I've

ever seen. The game is over. 34 to 3 at halftime. The Vikings defense is crazy with what they're doing. They're doing multiple fake plays before the snap now. They're not just doing one rotation. Vikings are doing multiple rotations. It's hard.

I think this is a great example of in the middle of November. You're not going to remember how bad the Bengals were in the first three weeks of the season, how many times this has happened. And I'm like, Chase Brown is just starting running back. But I think some people, if the trick is finding someone who actually does it, might be like, oh, have a better option, like someone who has a Quinnshot Juddkins or someone. But I think Chase Brown is a great. an attainable running back,

which is hard to find attainable running backs. The receivers is different. I don't think Jamar Chase is easy to trade for it because there's emotions with the number one pick. Higgins might be. Yeah, I think Chase is like, there's just emotions when you take a player number one to sell low. Chase Brown's not famous.

He's not a name. Exactly. He knows who he is. He's like a fifth round pick. I think this one's really smart. I like this one a lot. They do have the Broncos, lions, and Packers coming up next.

That's the thing. So the Broncos is tough, but then the Packers, but then later the schedule, it's a lot easier. It's like Steelers, Jets, Bears. So overall, and if you want a receiver, I would go to T. Higgins over Chase because it might be somewhat equal, but you want to have to pay the same price. But yeah, I like Chase Brown a lot. Yeah.

Another receiver, I think available. DK. You sent me in number four, or depending how you count six, I guess, fantasy by low this season. You have Brian Thomas Jr. for the Jacks. This is as gross as it gets at this point. This is a leap of faith. And again, to me, these are all betting on talented players who have underperformed, but you still think they're good. Because I just basically won't go out

and get a player who I just think is bad, you know, because some players just underperform the volume that they get. I think Brian Thomas is a good player who just things have not gone well for him thus far, and I think it's going to get better. So he's had three drops. The vibes are kind of bad,

but the Jags did win this last game. The locker room vibes were pretty electric. It sounds like the team is kind of rallying a little bit here. from a psychological point of view. And if you look at the underlying metrics for Brian Thomas, they're still pretty strong. So if he leads the team in first read target rate,

he's the clear cut number one. The next closest guy is Travis Hunter. So Brian Thomas Jr. has a 23% target rate on first reads. Next closest is Travis Hunter at 16%. He has 21% target rate. That's pretty strong, not great, but pretty strong. And he's averaging eight targets a game, which is 19th most,

the same as Amun Rah Saint-Brown. So he's getting a lot of looks and the volume potential is there. He just has several drops, a couple of plays that just didn't work out. Trevor Lawrence has been inaccurate, but I think overall, the points are going to come eventually

when they get these things kind of ironed out and just regression to the mean kind of hits because right now he's just dramatically underperforming what he should be scoring. So, you know, again, betting on talent, betting on the environment that he's going to continue to get a lot of looks in this offense.

I'd be willing to go get him. think people are probably freaking out about Brian Thomas right now. Yeah, I think Brian Thomas, and along with maybe Ashton Genty, are the only two players that went in the first two rounds of drafts that I think you could actually probably convince somebody to trade you because they're that fed up. The online discourse even about both those guys and Brian Thomas is so bad of him ducking balls, the whole Trevor Lawrence Hospital ball thing, him basically not putting in the effort and not wanting to catch these passes.

The vibes are just so bad there, and I think people are truly very fed up with Brian Tom. He also hasn't been around long enough, and he's not enough of a name for I think there to be enough, you know, like attachment, like Hyfitz was saying with Jamar Chase, where that like baked in, oh, wait, this is still Jamar Chase. I'm not getting rid of him. That's not quite there yet with Brian Thomas. So I do think that it's, it is possible. You're going to have to give up a little bit to get him. But I do think you can get him, which is kind of unheard of for a top one, you know, a top two round guy. Right.

I don't know if I believe in it. Especially because he's probably, because you took him so high, your team is probably one and two or oh and three at this point. I think a good gut check because I think it's hard to just to take one second. It's hard sometimes to be like, what do I give up in the trade?

That's hard to answer because it depends on your team and their team and it's like Tetris and it is the fit. And generally speaking, everyone wants running backs and no one of its receivers. I think a good example of where do you guys go from changing your mind and just being like, you know what, we have to adjust our priors,

like here's how it ranked the rest of the season and we have to just like look at our eyes versus, well, three weeks ago, a good example, Brian Thomas was like, what, the 13th or 15th pick in the draft in fantasy? And Giovante Williams for Dallas was like outside the top 100. If you have Brian Thomas, and I offered you Giovante Williams straight up,

what would you say? No, you're not doing that. You need to offer somebody something that looks good. Like, it needs to be a name. you need to, it needs to be. No, no, but like, would you take it? Because I think there's a very easy argument for the Giovante Williams person

to say, no, I wouldn't even do that. Oh, I'm saying I would rather have, if I had Brian Thomas and some were to offer me, Javante Williams, I wouldn't do it. Just because of the name brand swap. I'm not swapping Brian Thomas for Giovanni. It hurts to capitulate. Yes, that is how trading works.

You have to trade a name to somebody. Like, even if they're playing well, it doesn't matter. Like, I don't think you could trade Travis E.N. for Brian Thomas because it's like, I don't want Travis ETN, even though he's a top 10 running. back right now, you're going to have to give up like, I don't know, uh, I mean, maybe you swap Chase Brown for Brian Thomas. Maybe you'd have to like Chuba Hubbard. Would you trade Chuba Hubbard for

Brian Thomas? Oh, I, I'm out on Hubbard. Yeah, I, I, I, I'm concerned about in a serious way. I don't think he has a huge grip on that job as much as we, I think Rico Dowdell's playing a lot at the goal line. And then if you're not the goal line back for the Panthers, I don't know if I want you. Yes. The problem is for for somebody as as highly drafted as Brian Thomas, you will, you, you, have to like combine a sell high with a by low, which is doubly hard just like psychologically to be like, I'm going to get rid of Kyron Williams, who's been playing pretty good for Brian Thomas, who's been playing pretty bad. See, I think I don't know if I would, I don't know if the running back's more valuable. I think Javante is even honestly fair offer. He's the six

running back right now. What if someone sent you a Quinn, Clinton Johnson? Maybe either side wouldn't do that. What about Clinton Johnston for Brian Thomas? Boom. That's a fucking great question, D.K. Because I feel like that is a realistic trade that someone's going to send because they're going to try and sell high on Quentin Johnson. He's never going to be higher than wide receiver four probably. I think the fear of being duped in looking like an idiot is so high with stuff like that. Yes. That is what people think. I think that's true generally, but doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Because I think if you look at, if you just click on the little box next to Quentin Johnson's name and it has 20 something points and 20 something points, you're like

I kind of want that in my TV. Dude, I wasn't going to read this, but we'd a fantasy court case come in. That was someone was like, you guys always say don't veto trades and the only criteria really should just be, did two consenting adults make a fantasy trade that they think will help their team?

And like, it's not really your place to decide the quality of it. And so he says, you know what? I looked at it. I called the guy. I took Craig's advice. I called the guy and he said, did you make this trade?

And he was like, yeah, you know, I just feel like my backup tight end, Tyler Warren's like really good, kind of better than my starter. And I really need a receipt. So yeah, I just did that. So then he's like, all right. And then at the end, he's like, the trade was Brock Bowers for Cedric Tilden.

And I'm like, yeah, that's crazy. But like, that's America, man. But like, to your point, like, shit happens. Like, O and three, like, make some, like, don't lowball people, but like, that's why you start a dialogue. You can see how people value things. Some people just want to shake up their team, too. Dude, Bill wrote up this column like 25 years ago.

Oh, and three people. Just want to shake it up. They're like, fuck this team anyway. Like, I blow. I hate, there's, I hate these people. Sometimes it's fun to just do like a change of scenery trade where it's like, hey, I'll give you Ashton Genti. You give me Brian Thomas. And we'll just see if things get better.

Yeah, I did. Dude, I did that one year, this is, no one cares about fantasy baseball. But one year, Gary Sanchez had the worst start ever to a season for a catcher. And then Luis Castillo had the worst year ever to start for a season for a pitcher in the same three months. And we just swapped them as a joke. And it just like, yeah. Anyway. Two, two bad players.

Those are the best trades. Worst hitter and worst pitcher in baseball. We're like, fuck it. We can't cut them, swap them. Anyway, all right, let's get, this, it's true, though. Let's just try. But don't just send a trade without context. Text them.

I think, Craig, you said it, though, with, like, Brian Thomas. Like, it's like, oh, God, you kind of got to, like, plug your nose and send that trade because it's, it's definitely scary. Wait, while we're here, Travis Hunter, like, he also has to be the definition of Bail Love. We're talking about the bad vibes of Brian Thomas. Travis Hunter's like a national. Everyone's like, of course you can't play both ways.

But the core DNA of, well, he's a rookie receiver. We always say rookie receivers wait. they don't make an impact immediately. I mean, you know, Justin Jefferson. Yeah. Hunter to make less of an impact because he's all doing defense. But if you're saying Brian Thomas going to get better, you also said his, like he has a lot of the peripherals of the same as Travis Hunter.

Travis Hunter, I don't know if he's going to get better. But again, a lot of these are bets. You don't know for the certain the future of any of these guys. However, Travis Hunter, if you just redrafted a whole new league right now, he would go outside the top 100 picks outside the top. Like, you can, whoever has him is not playing him and doesn't need him. might not want him. Like, he's probably the cheapest player we're going to talk about. So, like, do you believe in that, though? You just think he sucks.

What's nice about Travis honors, you can get him for nothing, I think. Very little. He is probably the last player on your roster now. Like, I have Travis Hunter in the Ringer League. And even on by weeks, like, I'm not starting him, but I'm just holding on him because I don't want to look like an idiot if he's awesome in 10 weeks. All right. Well, I'll send you a trade. Okay. I have darts. So we get to, let's talk. You're going to, we should, I have scattered with Craig. We should like really play with with Hyfitz. No, no. I, I, No, Craig and I actually have good faith.

D.K. just wants to see me squirm. Yeah. I also really, I'm really happy that I have Scataboo. You're welcome. Better than Gentie. If I had Gentie and I offered you straight up for Scatabot, what would you do? I probably would, see, that's tough. I'd probably take that, though.

Yeah, you should. I think I would certainly take it in real life, you psycho. Oh, I'm the other way. I'd rather Scataboo on my team, but I think for fantasy, just, you know, flip Scataboo for the Gentie, just get the hell of it. but Scadaboo's got juice. There's something about him.

Yeah. He's kind of a gamer. You know what I mean? Something about him. I love everyone. I can't put my finger on it. Okay, we're going to keep rolling with Bilos here. But first, the ringer fantasy football show is brought to you by Fandall.

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Help.com call 1-88-78-98-9-7-77-7 or visit ccpg.org slash chat in Connecticut. All right, well, Craig, who is skeptical about Ashton Genti as a by-low. You sent in Breece Hall. Jets running at Breeze Hall. You submitted it as a by-low. I know. I hate myself for doing this. I wanted to, like, give it to D-K because I don't want to be attached to this tape.

You wanted to launder the fantasy advice. I did. To a third part. Launder your take through me. That's good. That's good. We should do laundry. We should laundering takes through each other.

Take laundering? Oh my God. We're on to something here. Takes one is really funny. DK's like the butcher that I'm like using as a front to sell drugs. Laundry day? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

My only thinking is based off what we saw from the Jets week one. I think we saw that the offensive line and the running game can work and can look really good. They ran for like 250 yards that week. And also. Brees Hall looked like a different player. I'll be the first to tell you that. Because last year, he was horrible. And this year, he looked like a completely different player.

He looked like the guy that I thought I was drafting last year. And so if you go through the rest of the season, they got blown out in week two by the Bills, who are maybe the best team in the league. And then week three, they didn't have Justin Fields. And that game was still kind of close, although they didn't run the ball well, but they didn't have fields because he had a concussion.

So as much as it pains me to say, I think this running game is good. Breece Hall looks good. And if you look at their next five games, they play the dolphins, the cowboys, the Broncos, the Panthers, and the Bengals. I mean, they play four of the worst defenses out of their next five games. So, and then, Breece Hall has not really moved the needle for anybody in over a year because of what he did last year.

So I don't think there's much attachment to Breece Hall at all. Do you guys feel that way? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I definitely agree with that. I think he, his name value has diminished so much. And especially because of what everyone said, during the preseason about him.

Like everyone was talking about Braille and Allen is going to be basically the team starter and he's like one of the best sleepers. So I don't think his name value is what it used to be. And so people who are, again, people who are kind of struggling out the gate right now are going to be looking to shake it up and Brees does not have a strong hold. I don't think in anyone's team unless you're a Jets fan, I guess. Trading for a running back is always like who are they going to play? And so would you, sometimes you have to toss in a running back that,

you've found, like, would you try to flip Scataboo and a receiver for Brice Hall? And you're basically betting that Brice Hall's going to be a lot better than Scatibu. Or like a Chikori-Kroski-Mirut, where you've got to add two people to get Brise. Yeah, you need to have somebody with like temporary juice that is a little bit hot right now. I mean, yeah, the jacore is an interesting one. Like, I bet you people could send out a Jacori plus some receiver for Brise and that would be taken. Yeah.

Would you do that? The worry about Scataboo is, So Tyrone Trace you out for a little bit. Scataboo is going to get a lot of runs. It's kind of why I brought him up. I think you could probably get more for Scatabu at this point, honestly. What do you think is a better backfield? Lamar with doing read option with Derek Henry or Dart doing read option

with Kim Scatabu? What do you think is a better? It's a good question. Yeah. There's just something about Dart and Scataboo. I don't know what it is. Well, yeah. I can't quite put my finger on it.

But at the one yard line, one yard line, they get one play. Who would you take? Not even close, Scataboo. Scataboo will find a way, you know what I mean? The best team, the greatest team ever that we don't trust even a little of Ravens. Before we move on, though, I do just want one more plug for Gentie, which is, I don't even know if I believe that Genti and the Raiders' offense will get better, but I just think it's rare to have such a talented hype player before,

just be so immediately besmirch that was taken so high. And I will just say, the Raiders' first three games, played the Patriots D, which I think is underrated. And I'm like, it's this first career game. I don't really care. Second game was against the Chargers. Chargers kind of seemed like the kicking ass. And then the third game was, all right, it was a little concerning.

But Washington's run D is probably better than you think. And I'm like, I don't know. Is it really, is the right? Basically, I just think Gentis is worth exploring. That's all. Like, I think if someone to take him and is really like, oh, I'm, I don't like, I'm upset. I took him. I didn't even want to take him by inertia.

Like, you know, I think explores. Who do you think you could trade for Ashton Jente? I don't know. That's the thing. I think you need someone who has, you almost need to like sometimes you need to just explore and see if they actually

blame him directly. Would you trade Kenneth Walker right now for Genty? No. I don't know if I would. Would you trade Travis ETN for Genty? I'm just throwing out running back right now. Definitely. Throw Dobbins.

Throw Dobbins. Just banking against. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I would get rid of Dobbins for Gentile. Javonte Williams. I'm going to keep bringing up Javante. you get rid of Javante

I'm asking you That's an interesting one Um God It's very hard It's very hard Yeah I think it's one of them

Where it's like both people The ultimate bill question Who says no And I'm like if you're Gentile You're like No I could have added him off waivers maybe And then if you have Giovante I kind of think that's a trade

Where both sides say no I know Well that's why I bring it up It's hard It's hard to make traits That's why I try to put Thought and Simpson He's tough

He has too much It's too I honestly think it's still a little Early for Gentie This is why the most important advice I think we give is to work with the O and three and one and two teams because it's hard to make fantasy football trades.

It takes time. And the people who are three and O, and O, frankly, aren't going to put in the effort in time to change their team when it's going well. The people who are only three are just more open to it and just text them and find someone who actually wants to make a trade and start with like the players in your team

they're interested in. Speaking of which, next one I have here, actually, Craig, you sent Calvin Ridley in for the Titans who was one of your boys over the offseason. I know. I'm just doubling down on this take. I was going to say this is kind of bold, considering how he's looked.

Yeah, he's been really bad. 4.7.3 points. But look, he did this last year. He was terrible for the first month of the season last year. He was 83rd in yards per game. And then he finished the year 17th in yards per game. And it's basically come down to drops. He's just dropped a lot of passes this year.

And I think he's in his own head. But I'm buying the dip on Cam Ward and the Titans in general having a really hard schedule. And Calvin Ridley played Pat Sertan in week one. They played a good Rams defense in week two. And then they played the Colts in week three. His defense has been way better than people expected. this year. So they're playing the Texans next week. Derek Stingley's banged up. Don't know who's he's going to play. And then it's the Cardinals. It's the Raiders. It's the Patriot secondary.

Calvin Ridley is still the number one in routes, targets, and snaps. And even though I love Elyleck-I-O-Manor, I still think Calvin Ridley's good. Like, I don't think he's washed physically. He's literally just dropping passes. And so I think everybody's completely fed up. You've probably started him for three straight weeks. He's not a sexy player. He hasn't been great in a while. He's older. He's older. He's older. I think he's really easy to get. And this is kind of the same exact thing that happened last year. And I'm like, Kim Ward's probably going to be better the next 10 games and he was the last three games.

So I'm just betting on all of that. Would you trade if you had DJ Moore, would you go get Calvin Ridley? I'm just throwing out a few names here. DJ Moore hasn't been great outside that touchdown. D.C. Moore can be on this list. What about Waddle, your favorite player? I would rather have Calvin Ridley

Yeah But like I just think if you want to switch positions It's right It's like everybody wants It's easy to get whatever A wide receiver if you're offering a running back Like don't you think you could get Calvin Ridley if you offered like

Tony Pollard Yeah but I would never do that I would not give up Pollard probably I would never flip Pollard for Ridley Swift is a good one I think Swift is a good one Why would you flip Swift for Pollard for Ridley

Because that implies you like I feel like you have three receivers better than Ridley right now. Do you have three running backs? I'm saying if you need a receiver and you have running back, DeAndre Swift is like your third or fourth running back, which I feel like it's pretty standard. I would offer like, I would try to get Brian Thomas if I had Tony Pollard

or if I had DeAndre Swift. No one's doing that. That's insane. No one's, no one's accepting Tony Pollard for Brian Thomas. Do you think you could trade basal Tutton for Calvin Ridley? Yeah, but I would rather, but I think Tutton's the kind of guy you would hold on to.

You'd rather have Tootin and Ridley? Wow. I think to Craig's point, though, the point he's making, I think the point we're establishing here. This is crazy. How long can I go here before Hyford's Calvin Ridley? Yeah, Ridley's value is falling. If you wouldn't do Tutton, would you, I mean, God, would you do Braylin Allen?

Yes. But I would, scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I think what I'm trying to say is, every, yeah, every year, though, we get to this. Bill has a friend who did this as a joke, but I ask. actually think the friend is right. The friend was like, if I just take nine running backs and wait, I can just trade for all these receivers. And I do think the most underrated, I think a huge hole in fantasy is if you're in a

league where you can trade, do you guys feel this way to every single season? I've never felt otherwise. Three weeks in, everyone's like, you always need running backs. Everyone's like, hey, I got a, I got this great receiver. Do you want to, will you give me a running back for him? I can't remember the last time someone hit me up trying to. send me a running back that was playing well. I literally can't even remember the last time that happened.

No, I know. Sometimes you have to trade opposite positions in order for people to do it. Because if you go position for, if you offer wide receiver for wide receiver swap, it's kind of, it's apples to where it's a direct comparison where if you are giving up a receiver and gaining one that has been worse than the one you gave away, it's like, why would the fuck would I do that? You have to, you do have to try to look at your roster and see what you have and just see if there's a matching.

It's like the snail with the lefty swirl. You're going to find someone with the swirl in your direction so you can kind of align for the magic to happen. Although, speaking of which, I think this guy's very attainable. This next by-low here, Matthew Golden, the receiver of the Packers, since Craig's backing the guy that he plugged all season and then sucks. I'm also going to talk about Matthew Golden,

frankly, tons of people listening to this probably of Matthew Golden because I wouldn't shut up about him all year. And in exchange, Matthew Golden sucked. He's had two points, then one point, then eight points. And I feel like they were big three sleepers at receiver entering the season. It was basically Emeka, Abuka, and Ricky Parasol and Matthew Golden. And right now, Golden's like the Squidward meme looking out at like Abuka and Ricky Parasel are incredible. And Golden has sucked.

However, he's lately, you know he's 78th among receivers? He's behind Jalen Naylor and Travis Hunter. That's tough. That's tough. It's not ideal. I will say, though, we've tried to slam it into people's heads that you have to wait a little bit for these rookie receivers. Not always. Obviously, Abuka looks great immediately. Sometimes that does happen.

Ted looks great. Ted looks great. But even McMillillian, he hasn't performed great. He looks great when you watch McMillan. But Tet was also much higher in the ADP. Ted doesn't pass the blurb test. Like everything about Ted is like, Ted's fucking awesome. I think it's going to be hard for you to get rid of that.

That's the thing. I think if you could, I completely agree. I left McMillan off this because I'm like, I don't think he's a bile. I think you should go get McMillan if you can. But the person who has them. You have to pay up for him. It's probably just as excited. I don't know.

The Golden, though, is basically, I think he's super attainable. Basically, the Packers are playing way more three-receiver sets, like they're playing triple. And Golden's just on the field way more already in like week three than week two. And frankly, he should have had like two different touchdowns at Thursday in football and Jordan Love missed him. He almost had like a 98-yard touchdown against the Browns last week. And I just think Matthew Gold, like, I just, they played the Browns defense.

But now they're playing Dallas. And I kind of think if you can try and get Matthew Golden maybe before this Dallas game, maybe he'll even suck against them. But overall, he's playing so much more. He's on so much. He's already participating so much more in this offense. Jaden reads out to November. I still believe everything about Golden.

When you watch him, you're like, he's getting open. I'm still a big fan. And I also think whoever took him is kind of thinking, it's probably crossed their mind to just cut him. Right. I was going to say he's like probably on a lot of roster bubbles right now. So just throw somebody out for him and you possibly get him. And yeah, like you said, you might want to just have him sit for a week or two

and kind of wait for the breakout. Yeah, wait for him to do something. But I do agree with this generally. Obviously, the worry for him was always that he's on the Packers and that LeFleur loves to rotate receivers. And that's happened. But like you said, after Jane Reed got hurt, his numbers, his snap totals have gone up. Like, he's working his way into the offense. He's like the starting outside receiver.

It's like, yeah, he's going to end up being like opposite dubs and probably playing north of 80% of snaps. And at that point, you can start starting him and feel good about it. I like, yeah, I like Golden Lunt. Craig's like, fuck that guy. No, no. With most, I mean, honestly, it's just like, at this point of the season, it's usually just try to go get rookies who have a bit disappointing. Speaking of, I've got one for you.

Craig said this might be too obvious, and that is true. It might be too obvious. But if you didn't watch the Patriots play last week and you didn't see them fumble five times, including two from Ramandre Stevenson and one from Antonio Gibson, if you didn't notice that, Trayvon Henderson might be a guy that you go look for in a trade offer. He's been really disappointing, especially relative to the preseason hype.

You know, he's not playing very many snaps right now. It's like 30%. He's rotating. There's a three-man rotation, which is always kind of just brutal in the fantasy world with Ramandre Stevenson, who had a big game in week two, and then week three things kind of fell apart.

So after Romandre and Antonio Gibson fumbled in this last game, this is per Jwayne McFarland. Henderson played 85% of the snaps, 90% of the rush attempts, ran a bunch of routes. Though he had elite usage after those two guys fumbled. That's probably not going to stick in a full game. However, I won't be surprised if his usage starts to go up pretty dramatically. And they might even go to like a two-man rotation. Basically, they're still going to use remandre, but the coaches just can't trust this guy.

Also, remember, in college, Henderson had zero fumbles on 667 touches. in college. He hasn't been great. I think he's flashed a lot of explosiveness in the open field and things like that. But one of the theories and theses is for grabbing him was that he's really good in past pro and he's already like kind of sucked in pass pro. So that's been kind of frustrating. But I do think eventually, and this was always going to be the case, he's going to work

his way in more and more. So now is the time to grab him before his usage starts ticking up a lot and then people really want to hang on to him, if that makes sense. So, you know, maybe maybe the person in your league, that has him didn't realize what happened in this last game. So go offer something for him. Here's my thought on that, D.K. I think try to trade for Henderson this week.

I think realistically, the person's going to be like, oh, the other two running backs both fumbled like three times. I'm going to keep him. I actually don't think Mike Grable's going to change the rotation this week. I think he's going to keep it the same. Then that person's going to be like, oh, shit. Maybe Henderson just won't play. And then they'll think about the offer.

Trade next week. If Trevion is not great again for fantasy next week, then that's the week to bounce. Yeah. Yeah. But I agree overall. He got pushed up a lot of draft boards. I think he was like a fourth, fifth rounder,

a third rounder sometimes. And he's definitely been disappointing so far. So there's probably owners out there that are like, God, this is just not working. It's a great song. Incredible song. I want to just give a few more names here. We don't have to do the whole two minutes for it.

But basically, I don't even know if I necessarily believe in this one. I just want to shout out Chris Olive, who if you just look at fantasy points under expectation, is like number one, which means that if you look at his targets and usage in the offense versus actual points delivered, he is the biggest gap, which sounds bad, but you basically expect the biggest rubber band of Chris Oliva has been the guy you expect the most points. But the same suck, and it's a little scary to be like, oh, the joke is people, you kind of turn Chris Oliva into Wondale Robinson, or maybe I should say Travis Hunter, where Chris Oliva is just catching all these

passes around the line of scrimmage now on a bad team and garbage time. It's a little scary to recommend him, but I do think if you can close your eyes and take this guy, on a terrible team with a concussion history that I don't like to see get tackled in a full PPR league, yeah, he should bounce back. So if you can stomach that, yeah. But I don't, I actually know

if I want to go full throat at there. But I do think if you can handle, if you just kind of treat fantasy football like a spreadsheet, then like, and you kind of don't, like, aren't going to watch the Saints, then like, yeah, you could go for a lave. The other one, Rishie Rice is just like three weeks in. The worst thing ever is a guy suspended six weeks and then someone comes in

six weeks later. It's like, will you trade B.m.? It's like, fuck you. I waited this whole time. If the person is Rishi Rice now, there's still three weeks left, and they're like, oh, and three, they're like, okay, this isn't going to work. I can't wait this long. That's someone where you can facilitate it, where if you have a good record, like, you want to add a big piece.

I think Rishie Rice is a really smart person to target because he could be a game-changing player. What do you think about buying low on Xavier Worthy right now? You're too worried about the shoulder? I don't want a guy with a shoulder injury. I mean, what if he gets tackled again and lands on? I don't know, a shoulder. If he gets tackled. What if he gets tackled?

He can only get land on the other shoulder. Good point. Sorry, he made it like three entire plays without hurting his healthy shoulder. I don't know. Maybe you're right. Maybe I should, but I'm just like, I have no interest in a guy that could literally get tackled and hurt his shoulder at any point. Any other players you wanted to shout out that are imperfect for this?

Like Jalen Warren's, the Steelers is a good example of a guy where I'm like, if you're able to acquire Jailen Warren, I would do it because I kind of think he's like going to be the discount version of Chase Brown this year. I feel like it's too late. But that's the thing. It's like he's not a by low. He's playing well. He's been good.

He's got double digit points every week. Well, that's what I'm saying. He's not a by low. He's like a by highish. You're saying actually not because the argument for Julian Warren is not only is he outperforming. He's underperforming. And so you're like pleasantly surprised what he's been doing.

There's an argument that Jill and Warren is actually going to be better than he's been going forward because he just hasn't had a rushing touchdown. But Jailn Warren's probably going to, these might be some of the worst games he's had because Rogers just wants them on the field. like you said, I have, it's like, it's harder to get rid of running backs. If you have Jalen Warren, I don't know if they're going to be willing to treat him. That's the thing. It's why it kept until now.

It's hard to be. The other by-low team, a by-medium, it's kind of just the Falcons. Like Kyle Pitts, Mooney and Drake London have all been. Pitts has, I guess, been fine, but London's been super underwhelming. Mooney kind of is working his way back from an injury. He had 11 targets last week. But, like, if you have any faith that the offense is going to kind of get it together and that Penix is going to go back to even just being the like

Gunslinger James Winston type that produces fantasy points people are pretty fed up I would say with Drake Lundy he hasn't been terrible he's been okay I think that's a good call so I mean they just fire their receivers coach I killier they move Zach Robinson who's going to go he's going to call plays from the booth I know I go for the booth to the side line now which kind of just feels like Is that what it is? Where's he going after the booth?

No They're changing shit to sideline they're changing shit to change shit like When a receiver's coach gets fired and they come out of the booth, it's kind of like, this is going to go really poorly and we think we're going to get fired. It's like rearranging the furniture in your house. Yes, exactly. It's the same for the feng shui. Exactly.

It's a feng shui change. I don't think it's supposed to. Yeah. So, but if the feng shui is different, then to your point, I do think we always London. It's kind of like, oh my God. So I think that's a good one worth looking into. Okay. Any other by-low stuff?

Text people and just ask them what they want and then see if it aligns with that. It's trading simple. People think it's complicated. ask people what they want. Ringer Fantasy Football League Update. Sal and I are 3 and O.N. Bill and Van are 0 and 3 and everyone else is just 2 and 1 or 1 and 2.

But DK, we play each other in the Ring of Fantasy League this week. If it's like to bury the lead there, then I'm in third place. So that's no big deal. That is the lead of the story that DK's in third place. Yeah. People are wondering. You want to cut that? We'll do it again.

Who's in third place? No, Dick, I'll do another take. Ringer Fantasy League update. DK's in third place. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. My gosh.

That's crazy. It's incredible. Feel good. Feel good about the direction of my team. I play Bill, who's in last place. I can't lose to them. I need to keep the Bill troll going. Who's he going to start at quarterback this week?

You never know. Probably not Michael points. I got to decide if I want to start Jackson Dart over Brock Purdy, so that'll be fun. If Dart becomes a real guy for me this year, I will be changing my name to Dart or Shark. So just kind of keep that in mind, check in. Okay. Because Bangkok Craig is one and two. I feel like you can't change Bangkok.

I know. I love Bangkok. You can't explain why your name's Bangkok Craig in this league. We did the American gangster rewatchables, and I was talking to Van Chris and Bill about how much I love the scenes in Bangkok and how I wanted to go there. And then there was also this other part about how if I were going to shoot somebody, I would never shoot him in the head. I would shoot him in the heart because I want them to see me as they die.

Jesus. And they were just like, Jesus, Bangkok, Craig. And so now that's kind of why that's the energy I'm bringing in my face. That's what you have to do this. We have to shoot Bill in the heart this. week to put him at O and 4. That's right. I wanted to make icon with me.

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Teddy! That was me. That was Jack Nicholson from The Shining. Right. My league of 10 plus years, we've always had this running bit that if a team ever had exactly 69 points, they would just automatically win.

I really like these obscure rules. Those are the best. Yeah, not 69.5, not 69.5, not 69.2. 69.0. Oh, wow. Now, we never wrote this down because how on earth would you add that

to your ESPN scoring settings? But it's been talked about for years and this had never happened. Until now, yes. One team finally ended up with exactly 69 points. No empty roster spots,

no last minute, switch shenanigans, no BS shady moves. A good, clean, old-fashioned 69. And afterwards, good, you know, family fun. and afterwards began celebrating that their terrible horrific team

actually ended up winning with the first 69W. And our league was immediately split with half the league saying that this is just a joke and not supposed to be taken seriously. A joke about something like this. And the other half saying it's absolutely a win. This is tricky. I would need to see the receipts of how this was discussed.

Yeah, one was the last time you even talked about it? So I'm glad you asked. Over the years, teams have definitely gotten close before and ended up with 69.5 or something else close. And every time, people comment that that would have saved their week. So it's been discussed a lot over the years. It's not some obscure thing never spoken of. But also, we don't have a rule written out addendum for it either. Curiously, you guys handle these types of unwritten rules.

My general thought here is that this should count as a win. But again, I need to see the receipts a little bit. Like if the commissioner ever even said one time, okay, we're doing this. and it got like four thumbs-ups. Like I would love to see that. But if the whole gang has been talking about this every year, when people get close, like I kind of think this is a win for Mr. 69.

DK., what do you think? I agree. I agree. I also just because I like leagues that implement these types of things. It's fun. It makes things, uh, shakes things up even if your team is doing poorly, obviously, like in this case.

Um, this is, this reminds me of somebody, uh, tagged us and this is like kind of going. around Twitter right now. There's a Benson Boone rule where if a player does a backflip at any point in the game, I don't know what the math

was. It was like 5 million divided by Benson Boone streams on his number one song by 5 million and you lose that many points or something. It was like around 50 points. Like you lose 50 points if your player does a backflip. Because I think Tyree killed in a backflip on Thursday night.

So he lost, Craig, explain Benson Boone to people who I still vaguely know who Benson Boone is. He's like if he's like if imagine dragons and the lumineers combined into one human being in 2025. And then only just did flips on stage. And his thing is he does backflips. He does little flips. He's like a

little gymnast and he jumps off pianos and things on stage. And it's very whimsical and he has a mustache and he wears a leotard. His name's Benson Boone. Benson Boone rules pretty good. He's a Booner. He's a Booner. So specifically for this league, it feels like people were aware of the rule

and talking about the rule and there was talk that like, oh, if that that would have saved my week or whatever if there was that kind of talk happening, instead of it was like, ha ha, one time 69 wins. Like, that's a big difference. If you, look,

usually I'm kind of like the commissioner has a responsibility, blah, blah, but let's be honest, in 30 years from now, we're on your deathbed. If you, like, give this guy the fucking win for the 69 on the dot, you're going to be like,

are your deathbed? Like, I really regret that my fantasy football league had the 60, like, fuck that. Like, just give him the, thing, it's funny. I know. On your deathbed, you'd be like, Danny! 69! Just do it. It's hilarious. It's a win. And now it also has so much

stakes to every week. Like, now it's basically, you want to kill the vibes of your league or do you want to just be like now every week? It's a big deal. Also, it's early. Fuck it. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, because to be honest, like, the other guy still gets the points. Like, let's say, 69 gets to win. If the guy who loses gets a hundred forty points, like, he still gets a point. I actually have a good compromise. I have a good compromise. for this first time, they both get a win. This guy who beat him gets a win

because it was unclear. But the guy who got the 69 gets a win and going forward, it just flips the result. That's very kind of you. But fuck him, fuck the guy. I kind of think so. All right, cool.

Okay, you're the deciding vote then. Yeah, I agree with Craig. I agree with Craig. All right. Don't go halfway. You can't go halfway on a 69. That put that on a quote card. I'm putting that on Instagram.

You never go have 69. All right, let's get to some emails. Emails. I want to start with just a crazy athlete nickname that we asked for those. And someone said in that Cory McGettie in the NBA, Corey McGettys nickname was bad porn. What?

Why? A lot of penetration and scoring, but are you really enjoying what you're watching? Oh, my God. Dude, Corey McGettie, one of the most ripped NBA players of all time. Bad porn. I, I hard,

that, that has to be the, he could get to the hole. Yeah. Oh. Oh my lord. You're right, Craig. Look at those arms.

Yeah, massive. Well, that was good. Wow. Who emailed that. Bad. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Oh, no.

I copied and paste it. I'm sorry. You know who you are. Whoever wrote bad. That's good. The Cori McGettie guy. Thank you. Incredible.

Or gal. Thank you. The, okay, wait. Another one. This one's from Chris. Seabone. Christopher, welcome. Or K-bone, maybe.

Now it's a C. C-bone. Chris, when I was in high school, we had this incredible football player named Jesse, whose family moved to our school district for his senior year. He joined the football team and was immediately the best player. He ran... Love when that happens.

He says, I believe he was running back. A ringer. Defensive back, kicker, also ran track. I was on the track team, because I threw discus for the high school. And one day we're doing discus practice. and in the middle of the way of the season, Jesse just walks by the discus people, and he just looks at the discus and picks it up

for the first time ever, and just completely using totally wrong, improper technique, throws it further than anyone on the team had ever thrown the discus. Just raw athleticism. Was this like Jesse Palmer, Jesse James? Was this a real NFL player? So coach saw this, puts Jesse in the discus for the next meet.

And he goes to the next meet, and he wins the, He comes in first place at the Knicks meet. Damn, the lesson. That's fucking awesome. Keep him throwing discus on this season. And Jesse goes to states, finishes top five in the state for discus.

All right. This is confirmed. Six weeks later. All that is to say. He finished top five in the state. This is high school. So Chris writes all that's to say. LeBron James would absolutely dominate throwing the javel in the Olympics.

He was among the best five discis throwers in this, whatever state he lived in without practicing once. Yeah. I was all stayed out here. I can make it rain. I'll put it wherever you want. There's a huge fucking difference between state championships

in high school in the Olympic. Yeah, but also this guy probably didn't even play D1 anything. Like that's the plate. This is stupid. Come on. Oh,

this doesn't confirm jack shit. I don't know. He was among the top 250 discus throwers in the country without practicing immediately. That's so funny. That's so funny. This is like,

how many good high school players go on to be in the NBA full stop? like 0.01% one of them is LeBron this guy we're talking about as LeBron James who is the best best player maybe ever

let's be honest Oh my God I love these arguments where you can't There's like no way to actually have an answer Yeah It's why analytics

ruined a lot of sports arguments because everything can be quantified now Which is awful Stuff like this is the best Yeah Like could LeBron medal The javelin in the Olympics That's what first takes you do

I just think using Some random high school is like a really bad example. Speaking of arguments. What can we use? If you used a fucking person that went to the Olympics after just picking up a fucking javelin

or any fucking sport. You could do it. If I ever meet LeBron and we get him on any part, if I ever get to just talk with him, the first thing I'm going to ask him is this. Would you guys rather have Mariah Carey let us use fantasy for our show or have LeBron James

like throw a javelin and we get to be there and film it? I want that. Mariah. come on. Okay. Speaking of emails that D.K. says aren't going to be very definitive.

We got an unbelievable email for Marcus. Something just for my heart. Mark. So for those who don't. Mark. Also, his email avids, his Gmail avatars. Mark. His Gmail avatars McLevin.

It's McLevin. It's McLevin with Mark next to him. D.K., will you summarize what the argument we've been having about Stonehenge is? I don't remember what the time frame was. Is it your whole life? The idea is basically. You had your whole life. I think it was your whole life.

I get the rest of, you had your whole life, but no heavy machinery. Yeah, no, like, you, you, you had what they had. Could Heifitz and a group of his friends build Stonehenge? Like 20 or 30, 30 or 40 people like build Stonehenge and we have like 50 years. I'm upset with ourselves. We should have gone back and, was it 30 or 40 people? I don't remember how many people were allowed to have. I'll take 20.

That's fine. I don't care. That was the point was we have like, the more important thing. Do we have 50 years? We have like a long time. Do we have emails from marketing? Because apparently he solves it's a problem. No, Marcus didn't.

But a guy in Flint, Michigan did. Okay. Let me tell you about this guy. Is he there? Well, no. He built a replica of Stonehenge in his backyard. Now it is smaller. However, he's 60.

So immediately, we've lost the plot. No, no. He's 60. I was like, this guy's got a big backyard. He did it by himself. He did it alone. this is so he this 60 year old guy has found a way there's like local news on this from the 90s

he moved six there's a video they just showed up he can move 1600 pound blocks by himself like he found a way to move literally like a ton of football field in like one day so this is unble so he just to go into this I tell you the technique but like I know you're probably skeptical

this motherfucker moved a six, he also then, his point was at scales. So he showed a little one. He moved a 16,000 pound stone in his backyard by himself. And got it up right. No, he tried the 1600.

Then he did 16,000. He moved his 16,000 pound stone by himself. 16,000 pounds stone? Yes, he did, yes, 16,000. So it's, it's, it's, it's. Both, he can do anything. It doesn't matter. There's a video.

People like, I don't believe, There's a video. His son posted a video of him moving his son's barn. It's a 30 by 40 barn. He's just fucking spinning it. Okay. This is, I, okay, I want to clarify my argument because I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm saying you, high fits, couldn't figure out how to do it.

Well, you're wrong because now I've seen this fucking video and I'll tell you how he did it. It's incredible. You didn't have this fucking guy from Flint. You waited too long to take. You waited too long. We started. Guess what? You didn't say this guy that is an engineering fucking genius.

He's not a genius. incredible. Dude, an actual quote for this guy, he's like, my favorite tool is gravity. This guy's great revelation was he takes, like, you just wedge a little piece of wood under and get it up, and then you just dig. And then you just get a little rock. He starts

with a 2,000 pound stone, but his point is, it's physics. It's all the same thing just with scale. He literally takes a little tiny rock and he just puts it under this like 2,000 pound stone. And he's like, you can just from there get it to like balance. And once it's balanced, you just

spin it. And it's like weightless. Like, not weightless, obviously, but you can spit it. Now, that's not going anywhere. But then you add a second stone and you kind of just spin it and you can overall create a direction with the stones. And he has all these other ways you do it. Like, you can create, don't even get me started

with the wood. But he found a way to spin these heavy-ass rocks hundreds of yards in his backyard. He did it by himself. His kids wouldn't even fucking help him with it. They thought he was crazy. All that's to say. I still don't think you could do it. Also, I should say this.

The stones that rested on top of the upright sarsen stones in Stonehenge, like the stones that were on top of the two standing stones. The ones on top weighed around 25 tons. Yeah, that's a lot. I'm just saying this one random guy in Flint, Michigan, did it himself without any help. And I'm just like, as a fucking hobby. Yeah, yeah.

And so if you could do that, the principles apply. Also, the most important part, you guys aren't moved by this. You got to watch the video. No, I am moved. My point, that's nuts. My point was never that it's physically impossible. Well, because it was already done. It was definitely it was physically impossible.

No, my point, no. That's not true. It's obviously not physically impossible. It's already been done. Well, we think. Well, the aliens definitely helped. But like, you know, this guy has always... But the best part, and the reason I,

one of the reasons I believe is so much, you'll never believe this guy's name. As we sit here and argue about basically moving, like, can you create some walls with stones? Ken Bone. His name is, you wish. Wally, Wallie, Wallie. Wall is in his name twice

and he rebuilt a replica of stone. Wait, is he, is his name Wally because his last name's Wallington, though? Because that's not as well. I don't know. So what was the heaviest stone Wally was working with? 16,000 pounds, which is eight tons. Yeah, that is one third of the weight of the stonehead stones.

He did it alone. Just saying, all I'm saying. He fucking did it alone. I would just like to point out once again that I was doubting your, mental aptitude for figuring out how to do it, not the fact that it's physically possible. Well, guess what? I'm just going to fucking find Wally's sons and we're going to do. I don't even need 40 people. Also, like, you can tell someone how to fucking ride a bike, but it's actually hard. Like, this, this doesn't seem like an easy thing to pull off. I'm not going to lie.

I thought you guys would be a little more impressed that someone just fucking built Stonehenge by themselves. It's a third. Yeah, I can tell. It's a third to scale. He built it. You're right. I can tell that I've been radicalized by this thing. He built, it's a third to fucking size and he just did it. And he literally no machinery, nothing. It's fucking used wood and stones. This guy sounds like a genius though. Like it's one of those like, dude,

I don't even know. Like, like, he's a retired construction worker. He's a construction. He's not even an engineer. He's just a construction worker. He just literally moves stones all day. Like he's on a construction lot, his whole life. And he just was like, I could figure this shit out. And his friends, honestly, it was like this though. His friends were like, no, you can't.

And he fucking did it. How long did it? It's honestly like, We had this argument, but then I spent the rest of my life trying to figure it out. I think if you had this guy, you could do it. How about that? Yeah, he died, so. Well, he's dead? I think so.

I actually don't know that for sure. I hope he's not. Did a stone fall in? Anyone knows Wally Wollington or their sons? I beg you to email us. Wally Wally Wollington and Sons or Wally Wollington and Sons or Wally Wollington. Wally Wollington and Stun's Stone movie. And if you do know their sons, please don't tell them about that really crash joke.

made. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I didn't want that he got crushed by a stone and died. I didn't mean. Oh, no. He did actually pass out of it. He did get injured at once by this. He almost crushed his feet multiple times. I mean, you're working with heavy stones here. 16,000 pound stone did move me a little. He got it upright. Like, he also figured out a way, he didn't just move it. He figured a way to get it. He stood up the 16,000 pound stone. Well, that's, he needs to get it on top of two other stones that are standing up. This is where you're getting caught up that this guy did all.

all this. He also, oh my, you're not impressed that, you know, we got to watch the video. I am impressed.

I am moved by the, what do you want us to do? I thought you were a little impressed. You want to take off my shirt and run around? What do you want me to do? I thought you guys wouldn't be like, well, didn't even get the stone on top?

I'm like, this motherfucker he stood up a 60,000 pound stone. You don't even interested how he fucking did it. Wait, did he get the stone on top? I'm interested.

I don't know. I was trying to find more video. A lot of the videos are from the 90s. He actually sold on his DVDs. Wait a minute. Did he recreate Stonehead or not? Did he have the stones on top or not? I think he died before he totally finished it, but he did get some of them on top.

I'm seeing some pictures. Craig, I'm seeing some pictures of like full. It's not small, man. I don't know what you call these, but like, yeah, he got the stone on the top. He did get some stones on top. But, D.K., you're looking at the picture. It's not small.

No, it's not small. Again, to be clear, and this is, again, more just for fun a bit. I don't think you could figure it out. I think someone with experience with levers and pulleys and all the shit Could figure out how to do it Or LeBron could beat every single javelin person of the world on his first try LeBron Yeah, that's definitely the right answer

That's sure. Okay, definitely right answer. I think LeBron could figure out how to make Stonehenge. Okay, that's called compromise. We need more of that in moderate distance. Last one here before we get out of here. We have to, Craig has been on a farm for a week. And you started telling us about how you watched

he's building his own stonehenge out there. I just want farm time with Craig. Craig, tell us about what's like on the farm. It's very peaceful. It's very, you know, I get it. I get why you want to just throw it all the way to go live on a farm in the great outdoors and not be bothered by anybody.

But I went, there are, this is a working farm, and there are little baby calves and cows and bulls. And today we went and saw the little baby calves. This is very cute. And I learned how bulls are castrated. Are you guys aware of this process? I think I am.

Go ahead. I don't know. I believe they kind of, I'm going to get it wrong. I read a book that described this one, said they, you know, a leather-bound book, but they kind of hold the thing down.

And I think they crush them when they're kids, right? Like they kind of crush. Christ. So what I was told today was that there's basically this, this plier-like device, but with rubber bands at the end. And they don't crush your balls. They squeeze the ball sack,

essentially to the point where they cut off the blood flow completely to the point where basically the the testicles just die because of lack of blood flow and then they kind of eventually fall off why are you telling us this that's what I learned that's what I learned today Jesus I just tell you guys show and tell I have a jar of them here hold on I got that bastard's eye though I got that past inside though oh my god um but yeah you know but they do when they're really young they do it when they're very young I got to say, there's worse ways. There's worse ways for that to go, I would say.

Right. Yeah, like what high fits suggested. Crush them with a giant stone. Drop stonehenge on them. You just need a couple pulleys and levies. Easy. You don't need modern technology? My favorite tool's gravity, baby.

Oh, gosh. You know what else I learned? I learned that mail, was it, wait, what, who was I talking to? by this. Peacocks are only males and females are called peahens. Did you know that? I guess cock is right in the name, isn't it?

I guess I never thought about that. I never thought about that either. I guess it makes sense. Pea-Fawn and then you have peacocks and peahens. I guess cock is right in there. Yeah. Peacock. Yeah. These are the two things you've learned so far.

He's on his way to being a farmer. Yeah. He's learning. the names of things. Did pasteurized milk come up? Get some raw milk while you're there? You know, it's funny. I met somebody at...

Don't. Don't. I met somebody at the Emmys who was born in Russia and immigrated when she was like a kid, maybe eight or ten years old. And she drank raw milk in Russia and still drinks raw milk to this day. That's the only milk she drinks. Okay. Just saying.

There are dozens of them. And she lived. She's doing great. She's a great job. She's a great job. Smart person. Seems so facto. Seems healthy as a horse.

Raw milk. Yeah. I honestly was just shocked. I've never met anybody who like actually did it or has done it consistently. There's like the Gwen is palitrotite. It's like, right raw milk. It's like performative. Yes, yes.

But she's like, no, I've done it my entire life. I've never thought about it. There's that woman in Florida. She had the gut biome that could manage it. The woman in Florida gave her kid raw milk. And I think she gave her kid, not Ebola. The kid got some horror for, disease and then she sued them and then the milk has on the bottle not for human consumption.

Oh, God. And they're like, yeah, I kind of put it right there. Yeah. You know what else I learned that I didn't realize? What? You guys know the difference between 2% and whole milk in terms of percentage, like the fat percentage difference? I don't actually know.

What do you think? Is it whole like 10% or something like that? Like is it exponentially bigger? Whole milk is only 4%. Oh. Oh, I was going to say, I thought it was like three. I guess in my head the whole time it's been three. I feel like the branding of that has really tricked me my entire life.

I thought the difference between whole milk and 2% milk was vast. Oh, the branding tricked you? Well, I'm just like whole milk and 2% to me are just in completely different categories. And like, oh, it's literally, one is 96% and the other is 98% non-fat. That's nothing in my head. I thought it was way worse. What about whipped cream or not whipped cream? Heavy whipping cream.

probably most of that. Okay. It's 100% fat of your butter, but, you know, heavy cream is probably, I don't know. That's a good trivia question. What percent fat is? As you can tell, heavy whipping cream is 36 to 40% milk fat. Okay. There you go.

Don't put that in your cereal. That might be gross. It's just funny. It's called whole milk. It's 4% fat. They're lying. So Craig wants the real. It's called advertising.

Craig wants to hunt OPE. I just want to drink butter. I don't want to drink butter. people do put butter in their coffee that's the whole bulletproof thing yeah did you know that decay put it in my hair

what do you think keeps it up Slick butter in the coffee apparently helps your body ingest the caffeine or it's like a slow release of the caffeine something that's interesting

yeah someone's gonna destroy me in an email about that so it's just one of those things like some shit you say to justify like yeah you just admit you like butter in your coffee

people like red wine a glass of red wine helps you every way it's like shut the fuck up you like Craig is our own like special RFK just saying wild things

I butter and coffee I should have made you do the testicle story as RFK Tylenol fix is autism That's breaking news by the ones Yeah Craig what else Give me one more thing on the farm that's going on What are the animals they have out there again?

There's goats, horses Did I tell you when Jackie was a kid Her older brother when she went to kindergarten and taught her all the animal sounds wrong because he thought it would be funny. Yes. Jackie stood up to kindergarten and was like, the cow goes oink,

and they thought there was something wrong with her. They're like, that's so good. I'm still very much learning. I invite, like, you know. All right. Well, email is to bring your fancy football team of the comb farms.

We've actually never been so, like I never felt how bad we all were at this until we had the trivia question, like how high should corn be, but how far, how tall should it? by the July 4th. And none of us knew. It's the 4th of July.

Yeah, it's knee high by the 4th of July. It rhymes. Everyone was disgusted with us that we didn't know this. Didn't know that. So yeah, emails to your fantasy football. Trivia questions about farming and also just tell us stuff about living up farms. Cool.

Craig. I love, yeah, I love Farmer Craig. Farmer Craig. All right. I'm going to build Stonehenge. Okay. Thank you, Krat. Thank you, Carlos.

Thank you, Kallis. Thank you, Rodick. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Everyone for listening. emails trivia questions emails dublin stuff thank you for the people oh yeah dublin stuff thank you lord lord

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