The Ringer NFL Show - Jalen Hurts Ruined My Life, Week 15 Waivers, and Happy Birthday, Philip Rivers!

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

The guys react to one of the most disappointing fantasy games of the season on ‘Monday Night Football.’ Then, SHOWDOWN TIME! The guys discuss must-add players at each position ahead of NFL Week 15. (00:00) Intro (27:41) RB Waivers: Blake Corum, Bam Knight, Jaylen Wright(38:43) WR Waivers: Jayden Higgins, Jaylen Reed, Luther Burden III(48:57) TE Waivers: Harold Fannin Jr., Isaiah Likely, Mike Gesicki(55:46) QB Waivers: Marcus Mariota, CJ Stroud, Tyler Shough(56:48) D/ST Waivers: Jaguars, Bears, Cowboys(59:19) Emails Check out our 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings here! Email us! [e-mail] This episode is sponsored by Chime. Bank Smarter, Progress Farther The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig HorlbeckProducers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, Ronak Nair, and Ryan Garcia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyphen. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Rolbeck, and we are going over all for players. You should add entering week 15, but first we are going to have to talk about a genuine fantasy football catastrophe that was the Eagles Chargers Monday Day football game. Danny Kelly, I think, is angrier than I have ever seen him

for anything ever in the regular season that did not involve his own team. Dika, how are you? I think this game by Jalen Hertz goes in the, it goes on Mount Rushmore of like the most frustrating. maddening, infuriating games of all time for fantasy. Like right up there in my mind with Alvin Camara scoring six touchdowns. Was it on Christmas Day that he used that? Yes, it was.

Yeah. Christmas miracle six touchdown game to boot my like really good team out of the playoffs. Jalen Hertz just taking a giant steaming dump on all of us. Why? What did he like throw a pick and fumble the ball in the same play somehow? He's the first player ever to have two turnovers in one play. the freaking guy he had five turnovers four picks this guy had four picks

he refuses to throw a pick the rest of the fucking season and then he throws four picks and fumbles in this game yeah so I am livid look actually usually they say don't talk about your fantasy team nobody cares DK I actually want you to tell everybody what your fantasy situation was okay so first of all he didn't get zero he got 0.4 so I did not have to shotgun because as you guys know in my league shotguning is

if you get a zero or less. Yeah. However, I was sweating this game down to the very last second because not only was a shotgun at play, we have this thing called the snake bag where if you,

like, if you're the last person, it's a shotgun in any given season, you have to pay, I forget what it is. Like, it was, it came out to like $100.

It was basically, I think, $5 for every shotgun that happened over the whole season. So I was like, not only going to have to shotgun a beer, I was going to have to pay someone, the snake bag money or whatever

and I was going to be and I also lost by the way today and I'm like in a very critical race for playoff standings so I was just absolutely furious at Jalen Hertz like this was an all-time dud performance it's actually a little bit

relieving because now we no longer have to defend him right like now it's over we don't ever have to defend him again we everyone knows he's not good end of story I got a text from my friend is an Eagles fan in the middle of this game and then said he said shout out to Foley he said Jalen Hertz his brain is broken his faith in this team his offense has been shattered and then

Jillen Hertz turned it over three more times after he sent that text message and and made absolutely zero sign of any emotion whatsoever he's he's like a football monk Craig what is your reaction to this I think that this was this was a catastrophe I think this is one of the most excruciating fantasy games ever I don't want to say I called it But on the Thursday show, I was like, this Monday night game, everyone's going to have a lot of fantasy implications coming to this game, and everybody is going to suck. You nailed it.

And I guess A.J. Brown was fine. No, he was one of the picks was his fault. So, like, I'm also, A.J. Brown never again. I'm never drafting you again. Six catches. Three straight games, 100 yards for A.J. Brown. Three straight Eagles losses. Coincidence?

No. But yeah, man. You know what? D.K.'s right. Where I agree with him is that what this has done to me is I'm glad it's over. I'm glad my team is dead. I also had AJ Brown in a matchup that could have gotten me into the playoffs.

I needed 24 points out of, sorry, not AJ Brown. Jalen Hertz. I needed 24 points out of Jalen Hertz and Ladd McConkey. 24. My friend texts me, he's like, oh, you're like minus 300 to do that. They scored five combined.

It's so... It is a disaster, but what I was saying was, I'm now happy that I never have to have Jalen Hertz on a team of mine ever again. And that is so freeing to... I will never do it. I don't care if it's free.

A dollar in the auction. I don't want them. I don't want to watch them. Throw the ball anymore. Ever again. Jayhurtz gets paid like $50 million a year to be quarterback in the NFL. And I, this game was actually insane.

I mean, so the Chargers won 22 to 19. If you didn't watch this game. In overtime. I, in overtime. And I thought it was going to be a tie. And I've never once in my life thought, I think this game's going to be tie in the middle of the fourth quarter.

But I texted you guys, I think this game's going to be a tie in the middle of the fourth quarter. I, the way I would describe this game, I have never felt more like an indoors game in a dome was actually being played in the rain. I kept waiting for, you know what I mean? It looked like no one could hold under the ball.

The charges couldn't block. Herbert could every running back trying to block Nicobi Dean was getting rocked. Justin Herbert could not hold onto the ball because of his broken hand. They got surgery on six days ago. Jalen Hertz, the entire offense was Jalen Hertz just not throwing to his first read because it was covered. printing and then throwing the ball away.

And then Treykman's like, he's got to see the checkdown. And then before Treykman's sentence was finished, he would throw a pick on the next play. That happened like three times. There was a sequence in this game where there was five turnovers in 11 plays. Which would... Did that include the one where there was three turnovers on one fucking play? Because that was insane. Yeah, five turnovers in 11 plays.

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It should have been a tie. Actually, you're right. It should have been a tie. It should have been a tie. I think that was, of all the ties I've ever watched, that was the most tie game. This was too, I mean, what I learned watching this game was both these teams are bad. And this win does not change my opinion of the Chargers at all.

It continues to make me believe that Herbert is a superhero. And what he continues to do every single season with like, homeless guys on the offensive line and broken bones and toward ligaments every single season. He led the team in rushing today. He had 66 yards rushing on 10 carries. By the end of the game,

they were just designing runs for him. I know. That was like something that worked. I mean, it's unbelievable what Justin Herbert does in it. And then at the end of the game, I don't know if you guys saw it, they caught it on camera.

The sideline reporter is trying to go up to him to do a post game interview on the field. You can literally hear him say they basically cut to them too early. She thought he got him. They hadn't gotten them yet. The camera cuts to them, He's like, hey, can I talk to you?

And he's like, hey, I really just want to go celebrate with my teammates. I don't want to talk to you. And then she's like, no, please stay. And he's like, okay, fine. But, dude, Justin Herbert, watching what Justin Herbert embodies as a quarterback versus Jalen Hertz on the other side of the field, who has five turnovers in the game and is sitting on the sidelines like he's on a morphine drip. It's unbelievable.

You know, Bill used to have the thing of whether you could test whether coaches were alive, like alive or dead on the sideline. Like Jim Caldwell, people didn't blink. Jailen Hertz is the first athlete I've ever wondered if he was alive on the sideline. And, like, that's a superpower really cool when he's playing well and they're winning. And, like, the railings falling over in Washington Stadium and he doesn't blink. But in games like this, I have so many icks from this Jalen Hertz game. But the one that sticks with me is also every time he throws the ball away, it looks too hard.

Like, even when he's on the run, it looks like he used to fucking put everything just to get the ball to the sideline. Yeah, there's probably like a tennis grunt with it. He's like, ugh. It's true. He was like, ah! A tennis grunt. But he had at one point a pick that was dropped, and then they had a punt, and it was overturned. And then the next drive, he comes back and then has the two turnover, the three turnover play.

Like, he throws the pick, and then Will Shipley forces a fumble, and Jillen Hertz recovers it, and then he gets stripped again, which is Elias Sports Bureau confirmed is the only on record play ever where one person turned it over twice. He lost four points in a play. I don't know. We do a good job not talking about our teams on this fantasy show, but I had Hertz and Kamani Vidal. I needed 20 points to get a first round by. Kamani Vidal got seven of the 20 points on the second play of the game. So I needed 13 points.

And over the next three hours, they got like five more points. And including Jailen Hertz taking away four on one play. But there's so many people like this. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. I was wondering if people who started Hertz up half a point we're going to lose this game because Hertz was going to lose

net points in this performance. This game, it fell to me, and again, sorry for talking about our fantasy leagues, but I feel like people, a lot of people had the same experience. This is rock. Every league at this. This is our therapy.

I mean, if we released the group chat today, we texted more today over one game than we did on the Sunday. We can't really. There was 14. We, I had, I was down four points. I needed Jalen Hertz to outscore the Eagles defense by four points.

And I was like, I'm pretty sure God hates me. Because Jalen Hertz would turn the ball over. And then the Eagles defense would turn around to fucking create a turnover. And I was just like, okay, I'm done. I can't handle this. I can't watch. I just did a shotgun anyway just because Jalen Hertz may be so mad. So anyway.

We have a weekly, our weekly, Shiel Capadia tweet. Shield Capadio, our friend here at the ringer, he tweeted today after the game. Zooming out, that's now five straight games where the Eagles have finished with a success. rate 30th percentile or worse. One touchdown on 13 offensive possessions today. The Eagles are now 28th an offensive success rate on the season. And the one touchdown was fake. It was a

push push where they just did it's a three-year long con where they did the touch push. And it's a great design. They're reinventing the origins of football. But they just did a toss to Seekwan off the push and he ran 60 yards like untouched for a touchdown. That was the only play they had in the

whole game that got anything that wasn't to A.J. Brown. I, the Hertz, I know we've been hard on Hertz and I know we've talked about Hertz a lot. Eagles fans, it's actually been sad because we watched them go from the Super Bowl where they were so mad that Hertz wasn't getting the respect he needed after Super Bowl MVP. Like, we had a video talking about how good the Eagles offense was

or the whole roster in coaching, and DK got screamed out by thousands of Eagles fans who were like, you didn't mention Hertz early enough of the video. And then like, it was like six months straight. And 11 months later. We should post that video right now. We should fucking post the video. 11 months later, I don't think Eagles fans are 100% confident

Jalen Hertz should be the quarterback of the team next year. I mean, he had four interceptions tonight. And even the one that wasn't his fault was to A.J. Brown, who it was a high throw in that A.J. Brown, I don't, business decisions a little. It was just like he was going to, it was a hospital ball. And A.J. Brown was distracted because he was going to get lit the fuck up. Again, he also, he dropped to the best throw that Jalen Hertz made tonight, too. Why?

Yeah. Adrian had a bad game. Oh, yeah. The ends, which, well, don't forget, the first try. there was a ball that was in the end zone, but also, yes, DK, they should have had the game winner in the end zone. That was a hard catch, but it's like, that's what the money's for.

He should have caught it. And then again, in overtime. He laid it up there perfectly for him. It was not tipped. He should have caught that. That was Hertz's best throw. You're right. But the other one, the overtime, when they,

I think, I forget, there were so many freaking drives. But the charges basically, I think they sent like seven or maybe even, probably seven guys on the Blitz to try to knock the Eagles at a field goal range. And Hertz identified immediately, put it up. And AJ Brown, as the ball's landing, is trying to push off the corner. back and catch it with one hand, which is like, you're ahead of him. Catch with the ball with two hands.

The game is over if you make this catch. He needs to look like he's trying harder. Craig in the middle of this. He's the most, whatever his aesthetic is, he just, he never looks like he's trying. Craig, can I read the text that you sent about AJ Brown and Hertz? Yeah. You texted in the middle of this game. It was so funny.

Austin just, I just, this is the worst picture I'm. ever seen. It's like a, it's, Jalen Hertz says nine. Doing the J.J. McCarthy pose. Craig said Jalen Hertz and A.J. Brown are like a couple that knows they are emotionally cheating on each other. There was that Jalen Hertz, like there was one moment.

I forget after which turnover there were so many. He was on the sideline and he tried to like high five all of his teammates to galvanize them except he like wasn't even looking at them or speaking with them. He just walked by and high fived him. And A.J. Brown like literally. looked at him as short as any human being to look at another one. Like, it was the quickest, like, high five, like, get the

fuck out of my face. It is clearly so awkward on this team. I don't know who's hated the most between Hertz and Siriani and A.J. Brown and what's going on, but the vibes are terrible. I, and again, Hertz gets the blame, but I still think that this is Nick Siriani's fault. But, like, it has

to, it's either the, who's running, who's running the offense or the quarterback. I get, so Jill Hurts completed 21 of 40 passes and 21 seems high. 240 yards, four interceptions took one sack and also fumbled the ball on the same play you picked, which cannot stress enough. It's never been done in the history of professional football. Eagles are, this is an unbelievable game.

Hertz is not a top, I don't know. I mean, you could probably go for a while before if you said I got to start an offense from scratch and Jalen Hurts is your quarterback. He is not in the top 10, 15, maybe 20. I don't know. It's a long list now. This is a game is a perfect example of, and I know Eagles fans are going to be mad, but this is what we're talking about, where when the Eagles don't have the best

offensive line in the NFL, it's like average, and they don't have Lane Johnson, and like they still have A.J. Brown, Devonti spent the sake one. Jalen Hertz, Treykbin pointed to set all night. When Jailen Hertz's first read is not there, he cannot play from the pocket, but he also can't throw on the run. So he's not creating out of structure either. Like the scrambles, like he's just running to the sideline and throwing the ball. away like seven times a game he he's a little bit like basically athletic Derek car sometimes

where yes you know what i mean where it's like dude you just bail immediately and throw the ball away every single time and it is so frustrating to watch it is it is i mean fantasy murder of the year is i mean it's just the irony of the guy who like never turns the ball over having five turnovers in the you know the last regular season game of the season the first half of the season the Eagles had three turnovers on the year, and that was the fewest in the history of the NFL. They had three turnovers in half a season. And then Jalen Hertz had two turnovers of one fucking play,

which is the Eagles entire season in a nutshell. Jason Kelsey was like, yeah, that's kind of like the whole year, right? And then they went push and shotgun. Ugh. Or they went to, they didn't get at the goal line. They went shotgun instead. Anyway, yeah, the group chat was on fire. Speaking to which, if people would be interested,

maybe we'll do it Discord. Email us at your fantasy football at gima.com. If we want to do a Discord or something, I don't know. I don't know if any of us particularly even are great at that. But like, if you'd be interested in a ringer fantasy football discord, let us know. Maybe I, yeah, I need to commiserate more closely with everyone about what just occurred. I was thinking about that tonight because I was just like, I actually couldn't believe what I was watching. But, DK, any other thoughts?

DK., where is this right? Is this the number one most angry you've been watching a game for fantasy football purposes? I think Alvin Camara scoring six touchdown still has a slight lead. but I was very upset in this game. I was, I was livid at points. You, it was,

it was to the point where I'm like, kind of grumpy and like, not spending quality time with my family. Point of, like, this game needed to end. Hi, Fitz asking that question,

is just the angriest you've ever been watching the game? Then I immediately just am scrolling up through our text and where D.K. texted us, I've never been more angry watching the game. Check the tape. A.J. said,

AJ Brown is also on my never-for- give list. And then he said this is worse than the Alvin Camara six touchdown game. All right, fine. I guess I'll go with that then. Number one, most angry I've ever been. Hyvin, there was a moment very deep into this game where Hertz had negative points and you text it as Hertz has negative one points on Yahoo.

People who were winning with him might lose. That was a thing. There were people who started him like up half a point and just why would you bench Jalen Hertz in case he gets negative points? What's going to happen? He's going to turn over the ball five times. this was like yeah this was a one in a thousand one and a million outcome game there are going to be more people this would happen there are probably going to be more people

who gave up on jalen hurts tonight than any other player of the NFL season this year and you know what's so funny the eagle's so close to winning the game the chart we're letting the chargers off the hook here they were terrible too horrific i mean the eagle's defense was awesome a tough watch the chargers the chargers the chargers i mean the eagles had three turnovers in the first half and the charges were up four points. They kept getting the ball at the 40 yard line and they couldn't move the fucking ball. This ticked down at the end because the overtime drive, Herbert wasn't really pressured. But the game was about to end in the fourth quarter.

And Robert Mace tweeted out that per next-gen stats, Justin Herbert was pressured on a career high 72% of dropbacks, which was a next-gen stats record. I mean, it was unbelievable how frequently those. And also, those pressures were all directly up the A-gap. Those pressures were, it was either the center, Bradley Bozeman was just going the wrong way, which is, I can't stress how embarrassing. Their new strategy was like, they're going to let a guy in and Herbert just has to, like, truck the safety and then make the throw.

That was like their new blitz pick up was Herbert picks up his own blitz and then rolls out. That breaks the math of football, you know? It really breaks the math. Unbelievable. Okay. We can get to the rest of the show, but that was absolutely insane. Email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. And, yeah, I think this game is single-handedly might inspire.

to start a Discord. So if you're interested in that, let us know. Is that because it sowed so much discord among us? Yeah, I think it would be the Eagles inspired. All right, let's get to the rest of the show. All right, we're going to get into waivers, but first, we have to hit some news that just happened here. This is unbelievable.

So Philip Rivers is working out with the cults. That felt. Phil? Phil. Phil Rivers? Couldn't believe it. So Daniel Jones, obviously, Tori, Achilles for the Colts. And then Anthony Richardson is on injured reserve with the broken orbital

bone in his face and also he's an eye injury. So he's still an injured reserve. Riley Leonard, the third stringer apparently also has an injury. So the only healthy quarterback in the Colts roster is Brett Rippin, who is, I mean, practice squad. So somehow, some way, the Colts are so desperate that they are actually bringing Philip Rivers into the facility. I assume to check his pulse because did you say, hey, all? Today it's his 44th birthday? Today, December 8th is Philip Rivers 44th birthday. Craig, not only that, not only is Philip Rivers 44 years old. Philip Rivers is a grandfather.

Oh, really? Is this going to be the first grandfather to play in the NFL? That he must be close. I mean, I guess George Blander was like 50. Dude, that's even better. Let's get back. Let's get you back to bed, grandpa. literally grandpa tell us about the war, dude.

Can you imagine Rivers telling all these zoomers trying to tell Tyler Warren about playing in the O-4. I mean, Philip Rivers was the O-4 draft. Tyler Warren was born in 2001. Rivers was literally in college when these kids were born in the Colts. I thought, the grandpa thinks better. I thought it was crazy. Philip Rivers

was named as a semi-finalist for the Hall of Fame two weeks ago. Really? Yes. Like late November. He was named as a ball of favor. Semi-finalist. I talk ready

How does this work now though Do they have to remove his name from consideration Because now he's if he's back in the league Does he have to wait five more years If he signs I think so If he signed a real deal and played Yeah I think he would have to wait five years He's not going to get it

It doesn't matter I just think it's insane that he's like That's the two options It's been 20 so I played a fun game Which was because he hasn't played Since January 3rd, 2021 So I looked up What was the head front page

Of the New York Times The Dave Philip Rivers last played in an NFL game. And it was, the headline was Mike Pence decries ridiculous challenge from GOP lawmakers to overturn an election.

So like he last played before January 6th. Like that's literally, like that hadn't even happened yet. Interesting, interesting. So he was free that day. Yeah, he was available. So I'm just, you know, asking questions. It is wild. He hasn't played since the 2020s. What? Why? Why Philip Rivers?

We can't get anyone else. There's no one that you can grab, that's better than 44-year-old Philip Brooks? Craig, there is not. I checked. No one better. You checked? I mean, I assume the reason is because Shane Steichen is the head coach of the Colts. He was with the Chargers for

one, two, three, four, five, I guess seven years overlap, I guess six years overlapping with Rivers. So I think the idea is that Rivers could come in and just know the offense, or at least a lot of the offense automatically I guess is the idea. But, do you have any current pictures of Phil Rivers?

Like, how's he looking these days? coaching his kids team in Alabama. He's from the Alabama part of Florida. Can they not go get like Russell Wilson or something? They have to get Phil Rivers? What's Russell Wilson doing? They can't wave him or give them a seventh round pick for Russell Wilson? You know what's fucked up?

I actually think Rivers would be better than Russell Wilson. I actually think that. Yeah, no, he would be, I think, actually. I mean, Russell Wilson, remember the last? Stop. You guys, maybe Rivers. He hasn't played football in five years and he's a pocket guy. Well, here's the real.

He's 44. He hasn't played in five years. It's only a year older than me. Brady is a unicorn freak who did Pilates every day and didn't eat tomatoes. Joe Flacco was three years younger than Philip Rivers, and he looks old. Philip Rivers has 10 kids. I think it's 12, dude. I think he's had some since, I think.

Oh, I think it's 10. Well, according to the internet, it's 10. I think the age is less of an issue, and it's more how long it's been since he's played football. Philip Rivers had been in the league this entire time keeping up with it. In theory, you can make a better case. He hasn't played football in five years. You know, that's half a decade. D.K., what were you doing when you were 37, 38?

That's up to no good, Craig. Yeah, you had an hearing, long hair at that point still. Those were the days. This is bonkers. Phil Rivers had a child born October 30th, 2023. He's just having a kid. He's still ready. I think he, I mean, I'm looking at some pictures of him coaching.

looks like he's in shape. Well, this is why they need him at the facility, because they actually just, it's going to be so awkward, too. But I, just, you're right though, Craig, I think that the aging is about how long you've been out of the league. Tom Brady, since Rivers retired, Tom Brady won a Super Bowl, retired,

unretired, played two more seasons with the Buccaneers, retired again, bought part of a team, became an announcer, announced a different Super Bowl, and then it's now announcing again. Rivers was out the entire time. And also, I, Maybe he's just been getting healthy, guys.

I don't know. It's, it's, maybe they should get Tom Brady. They should. I mean, I think Brady would be, Brady would be better than Brady's 48. 48?

Is that true? That's not true. He made that up. I mean, he retired at 45. It's been three years. Oh, he is. He's 48.

Has it been three years? Since he retired. Yeah. God, damn it. Time goes by too fast. Anyway, this is, it's just,

this is not, this is not, this is not, This is not going to work. We might have to do for Power Hour tomorrow. We're just going to fix the Colts quarter-meat situation. It's bad when Ian Rappaport has to tweet, this is real. Yeah, that's not great.

That's like, this is the end. But it's like, this is real. This is real. It's like, oh, God. All right. This is real. It's so good. We'll come up with a better solution for the Colts tomorrow and Power Hour probably.

So in the interim, let's get to waivers. I'm sure the number one waiver this week could be Phil Rivers. Surely that'll fix everything. So we're to go through waivers again. Emails trivia, ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Dude, he's actually probably not even in a player pool. Wait, let me check Yaddo real quick. They probably took them out.

Dude, the Colts play the Seahawks. No. The Seahawks next week. Can you imagine? You can't drop 44-year-old Phil Rivers in Seattle. He's not going to play this week. Can you imagine those? Who's going to?

Brett Rippin. Rat Rippin. Sacrificial Lamb? Oh my God. They should just go Wildcat in the whole game. They might be better. You know what? Tyler Warren should just play quarterback.

That might be a better option than Rivers trying to play versus the Seahawks. Having thrown 10 passes the whole game. It's just mostly him doing read option with Jonathan Taylor. I kind of like that. DK.

Getting to waivers here. You had a running back, entering with 15 for the fantasy playoffs and you have to win. We're going one week at a time here to start. I'm sorry, but Shane Steichen is 40 years old and was a quarterback. He could probably play

and maybe be better than Philip Rivers. They tried to do that during COVID with the Broncos. The Broncos wondered if the assistant coach could be a quarterback in the NFL world, no. The NFL is really the problem here because Stuyken could play

and Brady. They could sign Brady, but it's not for rules. Yeah. That'd be crazy to be. He'd be an owner of a different team, a broadcaster, and a starting player. That's like the 1950s. That's like Cloyce box. That would be way cooler. That's the modern Cloyce. Brady has to be better than Max Brosmer at the least.

McCarthy. What? Yeah. Of course. I'm just wondering how many quarterbacks would be better. than with no practice. He had like three hours. Brady is probably like the 22nd best quarterback right now. Right?

If he came in of the guys who are currently starting week to week, he's probably like 22 to 25 range, right? Yeah. What number of announcer do you think he is? How many announcers are there? Philip Rivers and Brady should switch jobs. Rivers is a great accent. Let's say there's 32.

Then he's 32. Oh, my God. No, no, I kid. He's probably 28. In the 20s. Yeah. Um, yeah. Rivers should,

Brady should be a quarterback for the Colts. Rivers should take his spot as an announcer. I think everyone would be happier. Anyway, sorry, I interrupted that. We can get back to running back here. D.K. All right,

I'm going with Blake Corum for the Rams. Yeah, that was pretty easy. You're going to do this every week. I feel like we've been talking about Blake Corum the last month. You should have already added him. Shame on you for not doing it. He's only rostered in 32% of Yahoo!

Um, blowout game last week, obviously against the, uh, Cardinals. He rushed 12 times for 120. 28 yards and two touchdowns. He's definitely cut into

Karen Williams' workload. Kiron Williams is still the leadback, but I think they're just trying to kind of spread the workload out a little bit. They play the Lions this week, though. So that's kind of tough. Is there a little bit of recency bias here? I feel like on the surface,

the sticker shock of Blake Corum's game, you know, 130 yards to touchdowns makes you think, oh, obviously, Corum, but I'm like, this is his first game in a month with over 10 touches. And I'm like, Chris Rodriguez is running back,

for the commanders. They're playing the Giants who give up the second most fantasy points to running backs. I look at a guy like Devin Singletary who we don't know if Tyrone and Tracy is going to play, he had an injury last week. They went on by. They're playing Washington, terrible against the run. I'm like, I actually, to me, I think all three of these options are viable. I mean, Jalen Wright throwing, if Devon A. Chan doesn't play,

Jalen Wright going up against the Steelers, I don't think this is like super clear, at least to me. I think the way that I look at Coram is if you have to play someone, I would hear your argument that you could play Chris Rodriguez. I think I would maybe do that if you're just looking for a one week fill in. But if you're looking for a potential league winning player, that's like Corum. If Kyron Williams like pulls his hammy this weekend, then you're set with a guy for the playoffs that's going to score like 20 points a game. But if you're like wild card round, I just want to get to the second round of the playoffs. I need a guy who can maybe score 20 this week. Do you think it's Corum still?

Yeah, because he just did it last week, and I know it was a better matchup against the Cardinals, but the part that I think you're overlooking is that the Rams are the best offense in the NFL, and they're going to get to the red zone every fucking drive. And, like, that's the difference is the Rams genuinely can have seven red zone drives in one game. And so Corum only needs to rotate in every other drive

or every three drives, and he can still make the red zone two or three times, and he can get a touchdown. So the floor is really high. This is also a game where Kyron Williams wasn't hurt. Like this wasn't even garbage time where Blake Quorum racked this up. Like he was rotating in and I think it's a mix of Kyron Williams had an ankle thing. So Blake Quorum got a little more run.

But when players have performances like this, they earn more playing time. So I think it's much more of a share like a Zach Sharbonnet, Ken Walker mix if the Seahawks could run the ball. Like I think that's what you're seeing with the Rams right now. So I think the, yeah, the lines are tougher matchup. But Chris Rodriguez you could talk me into because the Giants Run De is so bad, I wouldn't take any of those other players in the same level as Corum. I think that would be a mistake. I think it's, if you want to go Chris Rodriguez over Corum, I wouldn't do that. But I get it.

Tyrone. Devin Singletary, I would have way below because Tyrone Tracy said it's a stinger. Also, I don't really trust the Giants offense. I mean, Devin Singletary, you're banking at Devin Singleton to be a goal line guy instead of play quorum. I would take quorum. And then the other guy you mentioned was Jalen Wright for the Dolphins. Fair.

But Devon A. He had a rib injury. And my issue is, so I think we've since learned. They play Monday night. Devon A. He is getting treatment on his ribs. But let's just say this. He said he could enter the game, though.

and that he could have gone back in. And Mike McDaniel was like, I chose not to put it back in. Right, but now he's getting treatment and he's going to miss a couple of practices. Let's say tomorrow, Tuesday, you find out Devon A. Chan is going to play it safe. He's going to miss next week. Is Jalen Wright your pick? I think Jailen, yeah, probably because he got 25 carries last week and the Steelers Run Ducks sucks. So if we knew for a fact that Jalen Wright was going to start and Devon A. Chan was going to miss the game, then yeah, for this week, I was like, Jailen Wright's going to get the most touches and the Stoers Run defense sucks.

The combination of not knowing that end up being money to football, it, But I don't know. I kind of don't want to overthinking. Blake Coram was the number three running back last week. Like, I don't know. No one got hurt. No, I'm fine. Coram, I think is number one for me.

I do think that, like, there are other guys that I could hear an argument for and I don't think it'd be terrible. And I do think if A-Chin's out, which it's going to be tough. Monday night football, A-10 is probably going to play. It's going to be tough to like, you don't want to wait to determine whether or not. To your point, it's probably for not. Probably for not because I think the difference is a lot of leagues quorum is probably rostered.

And I think what we're agreeing on is a lot of leagues, if you're competitive, in the playoffs. Quorum's rostered, Chris Rodriguez is probably rostered, but Jalen Wright is not. So I think what we're saying is that's probably like the order, right? We're talking about here. So let's do this, right? We'll do the quorum showdown time and then we'll see how this maps out, like how we rank the remaining guys.

Okay. Corum showdown time. All right, it is the Blake Corum showdown time. All right, trivia update. High Fis is at 15. I'm right below him with 14 DKs at 9. Still putting time. Basically on Craig's team. No.

You got time. Dude, you go three in a day. You're right back in it. Really? Oh, okay. I thought this was the last time.

I guess we're going to do it through the playoffs. Yeah. Okay. We got three more. Good, 9 and 0. That will definitely have it. Blow us out of the water.

D.K.'s like Notre Dame. He's just not going to play in the ball game. D.K.'s like, oh, taking my ball and going home. This is from CJ. By the way, I'm going to release a statement soon.

When I don't make the ringer fantasy football league playoffs, I'm going to release a statement like Notre Dame. That's good. So prepare for that. So CJ says breakfast was two big cups of coffee and a plain bagel with onion and chive cream cheese. Sounds great. Okay. I'm into that. There is a... A lot of bagels.

A lot of people eating bagels. A lot of people eat bagels. CJ writes, there's a Capital One commercial John Travolta dressed as Santa singing Greece lightning from Greece, which obviously John Travolta originally sang in the movie version of Greece. And a side note, in the commercial, one of the lines of the song they cut out in the original lyrics of Greece,

they have, You are Supreme, the Chixel cream for Greece Lightning. And he's wondering why Capital One took that out. What reason could that be? Right. Which maybe we should investigate. Okay.

But anyway, his question is, Google it. What date was Greece released in America, the movie? Well, that's a good question. You two are both shaking your heads? Do what? Are we doing a year, a actual day?

A date with a year. Hmm. Okay. All right. I think I have a guess. Okay. Three, two, one. June 20th,

1978. I was going to say, 1976. June 1st, 1976. Wow. Wow. The all best June.

So my answer, the one I wrote down, I had June. What did I read down here? I feel like they're like a summer release. I wrote down June 5th, 1971. What did you guys say? I said June 20th,

1978. I said June 1st, it's not 71. That's really, Craig's really close. June 16th, 1978. Were you two days off or four days off?

Four days off, baby. That's probably the closest guest he's ever had. How did you do that, Craig? That's crazy. How did he do that? He did it after Saturday night. How would he do that, KB? Wow.

How would he do that? What a guess by Craig there. He guessed the movie. An absolute dime of a guess, KB. Oh, now we go live to the rigored trivia, trivia showdown time. where Craig has an incredible get, just watch, tune in. Where Craig Horlebeck is inching in on Hyphitz for the lead trivia. Did you just tie them up?

Yeah, it was pretty good. I did. Okay, so you get like one. First of all, we all guess June, which is weird. Good job by us. Well, so I'm a love and I feel like you kind of know that's a summer movie. And then, all right, well, don't just take away all the credit that we just got. Well, no, I just feel like that's, all of our instincts were correct,

that it feels like a movie comes out in the summer. So do you want Blake Corman or not? Wow. After the gun to your head incident of last week when we bet Justin Jefferson versus Alex Pearson and Justin Jefferson second lowest yards of his career. We didn't mention that 11 yards. Heavy way the head with the crown. Yeah, I'll take Blake one.

Okay. D.K. was closer neck than me. So the other guy that I wanted to talk about here is Bam Knight for the Cardinals, who had not very many points this last week, but basically has been the lead back the starting running back for the Cardinals last few games. It does not feel like Trey Benson's coming back. I want to say they have a couple of days to get him back before they have to put him on the season, any I are.

Wednesday, if they don't activate Trey Benson by Wednesday, per the injured reserve rules, that he just will not come back this season. And he hasn't practiced, I think, in the whole time. Jonathan Gannon said today, and I quote about him returning, John Gannon said, we'll see, which is a weird thing to say

after someone who's been activated for two and a half weeks. I think he has a step back. Yeah, there's no reason for him to come back anyway. I think Bam Knight's going to be the guy for the rest of the year. This week, I would not play him because they're playing Houston. But if you make it the next couple of weeks, they got Atlanta and Sincis. So I think I'm going to go with Bam Knight. Really?

And just hope that you get. He's a starting running back on withers. He's straight up a starting running back. And the only reason he's available is because people kept thinking Tray Benson would come back. And Trey Benson is not coming back. The obvious caveat here is if you have to start someone, Bam Knight, probably not the guy. But if you're just talking about guys, you should ask. to your team. I guess that's fair.

I, yeah. He actually gets a lot of receiving work. He gets about four catches a game. Michael Carter was playing a lot of the garbage time, but to me that even means, I don't know, I think Bam Knight is going to, I think you're right. Ban Night's is starting running back. That's a good one, DeKis. But Chris Rodriguez is a good one as well.

Well, I think the top tier is very clear of me. It's like Blake Corum, Bam Knight, and then, but I agree with what you're saying, versus the Texans is an ideal. Chris Rodriguez for Washington, silly, because the Giants run defense is so bad. Jayden Daniels is probably not playing in this game, but Marcus Mariotta, I still think as bad as Washington to look for. versus Minnesota. I do think Chris Rodriguez

will probably just odds will have a touchdown versus the Giants. So I think that's perfectly fine. And even versus the Vikings, he had 10 carries for 52 yards. And again, the number one guy, though, if Jalen Wright, if A Chan misses time,

I would, you would certainly want to play Jailen Wright for Miami. I don't know how I would feel about it if A.m. is going to play. I don't know if the Steelers run defense is bad enough that you could support both. Realistically,

if you actually are down bad enough that you need to play running back off waivers this week, I would try to add Jalen Wright and I would add two of those four guys of Coram Wright, Chris Rodriguez, or Bam Knight. And if those guys aren't available like a Devon Singletary for the Giants and then just hope that H.N. misses the game and you can play Geelan right. You think you'd rather have Rodriguez or Singletary rest of season? Chris Rodriguez, because the Washington's schedule coming up is they get the Giants,

the Eagles Cowboys. So the Eagles run defense is like stops and starts, but the Cowboys run defense I'm still not that afraid of. I think Chris Rodriguez is just another, he's is starting running back on a team that has two and a half good matchups coming up, which is more than you can say for these other guys. And Singletor is just a goal line back on the Giants, which take that as you want, take that as you will. I don't know how helpful that is. And then true, you know, there's Sean Tucker in the box,

all these other guys are handcuffs, but I don't think at that point we're too far gone for that. So those are running backs. Receivers, DK, if you had to play a receiver this week. Hmm. This one's a little tough because there's a handful of guys that I like. I'm going to lean Luther Burden for the Bears, I think. This is also just kind of assuming that Roman Dunezay is not going to be back immediately.

Right now, I think they've listed him as week to week. And they ruled him out on Friday, right, or Saturday? Like they ruled them out not. It wasn't like a game time decision for a game. No, they ruled him out pretty early. And then they said he was week to week. Oh, stress fracture in his foot for Romed Dunezai. Yeah.

So I'm going to go with Luther Burden. He's kind of like just every game gotten a little bit better. his playing time has been increasing, his target rate has increased. DJ Moore is just an absolute afterthought. Just an absolute afterthought. An absolute afterthought, KB. The Bears play the Browns this week, though,

so that's not like the best. But I'm going to stick with Luther Burden. Craig? I do love Luther Burden, but he still is not playing all that much. Like, Zakias is still there. It's a DJ more. I don't know.

I mean, it's tough. There's guys like, Jaden Reed is back for the Packers in the mix, but all these guys are, the difficult thing about this, about this week for receivers is they're all playing great defenses. All these guys. Jayden Reed's playing Denver. Ryan Flannoy is how Al Michaels pronounced it. Is that how it's pronounced Flanoy?

I thought it's Flournoy, but I also don't know. I like to say Flournoy. Flowernoi. That's, I'm sure that's. So you spell it. They're playing the Vikings, and then you have, yeah, Lutherbirds is playing the Browns. Maybe throw out Jaden Higgins. If you have Jayden Higgins on the Texans, they're playing.

Arizona. Jayden Reed on the Packers is playing the fucking Broncos, which also isn't sick. I don't know. Man, if I had to bet my life on this, which my life is already meaningless because it's over. Yeah. Void. Devon Valle. I kind of think I would go with Jaden Higgins.

Is that bad? No, I like that. Well, the Texans just gave up 45 points to the Rams, and the Texans aren't exactly the Rams, but I mean, I get the logic. You mean the Cardinals. Sorry, the Cardinals. Yeah. I think I'm going to go with Jaden Higgins.

That's fair. I think part of me thinks the answer should be Jaden Reed for the backers because he came on off injured reserve and just immediately had a role for Green Bay. But the fact of playing Denver, I just think Jade Reed is a noise for the end zone. And I think he, over the length of the playoffs, he go, Jade Reed. But if I had to play someone for this week and it's a little dicey, I think of the answer is Ryan Fleurneau for the Cowboys. And it's a little dicey because C.D. Lamb has concussion.

Well, no, I don't. I mean, when he's out, when C.D. Lamb misses time. I mean, last week, C.D. Lamb got hurt in the middle of the game. It's the lion. so the line's defense isn't great. But Ryan Flaner had 13 targets for nine catches, 150 yards in a touchdown. When CD-Land missed time first the Jets,

Ryan Florey had nine targets for six catches, 114 yards. And again, if you just look at it, who are the quarterbacks, you guys? You're taking C.J. Stroud and the Texans. I mean, there's, J.N. Higgins has C.J. Stroud. Luther Burdeness, Caleb, is up and down. I'm like, I know the Vikings defense is tough,

but Brian Flores has, for a litmus test of, like, a pass-fail for quarterbacks. Dak Prescott's above the line for all the blitzes they're going to throw in Minnesota. I kind of just do want to bet on DAC to get the ball and distribute it around to Pickens, Jake Ferguson and Ryan Flannoy, which I don't think that's insane. But also if you're listening, and that sounds insane with the playoffs in the line. I think Jaden Reed's like the only guy in this list that will have multiple plays designed for him at the goal line.

So I think the floor is Jaden Reed. But I do think Ryan Flanerner has like the highest ceiling on this list. I just don't like Minnesota. I get that. That's fair. But you love Dak. You love Dak. Dack's great.

A guy named Ryan Flanernery. versus Minnesota. I'm like, man. Also there. Chance C.D. comes back. If CD. comes, oh, sorry, thank you. If CD plays, you can't play Flainois.

But if Cid isn't playing, then I think defenses are very much like, yeah, it's what we were talking about. It's the cloud coverage on Pickens and then make other guys beat you, and he's been the guy. So he's got, I mean, he had 13 targets in that game. I will say the other person I would actually do it instead of even

Jane Higgins. I think Jalen Koker for the Panthers, who's ever, this is the most available guy in the list. He's 4% rostered. The Panthers were on by. I think he's the most talented player versus mix of talent versus playing time.

Like he's an undrafted free agent from a couple years ago. But Jailon Koker is good. He's six for three as size. The Panthers are playing the Saints. It's indoors, which I don't think can be overstated versus it's Monday. We don't know what the weather is going to be in the Chicago Browns game. I'll tell you, let's do a trivia right now.

What do you think the high is in Chicago on Sunday? The high, 26. 19. Eight. Get the fuck out. Yeah. We need to get a player on. We need to get a player on and ask them, like, when does the cold actually matter?

Is it at, like, 25? Is it 15? Is it sub 10? When is it actually affecting you as a player? But this is, it depends on where they're from. California, soft. And it probably depends on the position. But I would love to know if, like, I would love to ask Luther Burden or something.

Like a player who's been in the league a long time. Like, when are you like, this is actually so cold that affects my play? Yeah. That's a good question. Eight, probably round the answer. Eight, single digits is tough. Because you know, it's mentally. 100%

Yeah, I kind of think Jayden Reed for the Packers I guess maybe that's cheap my answer instead of Flynn away and then Coker and then Flynn away All right, so we're all over the map So, D.Ks taking Luther

I'm taking Jaden Higgins and you're taking Jaden Reed Yeah, I'll tell you I just, Jaden Reed just Matt Liffler fucking loves Jaden Reed, dude Yeah That's not about a pick

I don't mind Jaden Reed All right So are we gonna are we gonna just do a trivia for fun then? Yeah, they're all for fun really in my book Yeah So how do I, the question is

how do I announce the showdown time? Do Jaden Higgins one, just for fun. No, I'm going to say them all. Okay. All right, it is the Jaden Reed, Jaden Higgins, Luther Burden showdown time. All right. High Fitz, let's do this. From, I'm redacting it because they wrote no breakfast this morning,

suffering from food poisoning, typing this on my toilet. Oh, geez. That's why you're redacting it? No, from the gentleman's piss club. Forgot their name as a copy and paste it. Yeah. Okay. Questions? How many Hawaiian islands are there? Damn it. I guess.

It's never crossed my mind. I know the big ones. I know the main ones. Well, you've been to Hawaii, so you have a pretty large advantage. I don't mean, I actually, I'm not sure that's that big of an advantage. It didn't come up? No. All right. Well, never mind. Well, I have my answer. So you guys let me know.

I have been to Hawaii many times I've only been to one island I've been to Maui so there's at least one so there is one I guarantee you there's a couple at least okay no I don't know but it's like I feel like there's probably like

a hundred little ones like and does that count for I mean it's like Greece how many islands are there in Greece like a hundred movie? The movies? Hundreds? No, not the movie.

Oh the country Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Well didn't we do one about Sweden How many islands there are up there? I don't know Wasn't it like 200?

So many mills in the world It's like 200, right? More coastline than the state of California There's like a thousand Oh, was it a thousand? Something like that. Yeah, did Greece has 6,000 islands. That's a lot.

Okay, anyway, I'm buying, I'm... Three, two, one. 18. You said 18. say, DK? Six. What happened to your hundreds thing? Well, I'm just going on the low side.

I think there's a lot. I think there's a couple, or a handful. I said, I said 60. Well, I'm just curious how this question, this question is a little bit. The answer's 137. Big. Ah! I was going for the bigger ones.

Damn. What really is an island? You know? It's like, is Pluto a planet. Right. Like, when is it an island and when is it just a little plot of land that Probably if it's unnamed. Year round.

Year round land. Sorry. Who won? Me. Okay. I will take Jaden Reed. Yeah. I will take Jaden Higgins.

Cool. I'm going to take Burden. And then if those guys were all gone, would you take Ryan Flannoria, Jalen Koker, or someone else? Devon Valet. Why don't we do it again now? Hyphids, you're up again now.

Pick a second guy. Oh, I would take. Phelon. I would take Ryan Flanoy. I'd rather go down with DAC than Bryce Young. I would take... If Cidie Lamb is out. I guess I would take Jail with Coker.

D.K. Taking Valey. You really like DeVon Velae. Would you really go to Von Valle over Tauker and Flannoy? Tyler Shuck is bawling the F out right now, you guys. Settle down. Veilet, he had a 27% target rate this last week.

I'm telling you, he's the number two receiver on this team. None of these options are super excellent. of course. John Mechie came to mind. Yeah, that one, if Tarot Taylor's not playing, I don't know if I'm going down with my ship with Brady Cook at quarterback for the near football jets. Shamir DK.

By the way, did you know Shamir, I don't know how to say his first name. I'm sorry. DK. from the Titans. He leads the NFL in all purpose yards. Well, he just returns. He returns punts, right? And kicks, yeah.

Good kick returner. Yeah, punt returner. Cool. I also, the Nate Yonki had a great stat of PFF that Pat Bryant for the Broncos, the Jags, a lot of the most points to extra receivers in fantasy this year. So Pat Bryant might maybe just trust Sean Payton

with your season of the line if you're really, really, really desperate and deeply. Okay. Tight ends. This one people might need. D.K., who would be your number one tight end ad? Harold Fanon from the Browns. That's all.

Me too. I mean, Harold Fanon with Shador Sanders says, like, I think the number two tied end in fantasy football. Shudor said early when he got the quarterback job, he was like, I'm a big trust guy, and he clearly just gives Fannin all the jump balls and Fannin's awesome.

He's a Jay J. G. Zacharyzen is Fannin is a 28% target share with Cheater. I believe he is only behind McBride, Trey McBride, since Chador has been starting. All right. Well, that was real. That's really easy. Yeah. If Harold Fanon. All right, that settles it then. It is the Harold Fanon Jr. Showdown time. He got whiskey dick there for a second. This is from Dave. DeBone. Davey boy.

Breakfast was chia pudding made with canned coconut milk, bananas, peanut butter and granola. Oh, wow. And a grapefruit. Run through that again? Chea pudding made with canned coconut milk, bananas, peanut butter, granola, and a grapefruit. What a healthy way to start your day.

That is a really healthy way to start your day. Sounds awful. I'm sorry. Dave writes... Sounds horrific. A former Division II basketball player just broke the record for most three pointers made in 24 hours. How many three pointers did he make?

Made in 24 hours? Yes. I think it was like a live stream thing. three-pointers. Oh, like a Guinness World Record, but he's trying to do it on YouTube or something. I mean,

24 hours? 24 hours. I hate math. I hate doing this stuff. Wait, sorry, was it how in a row or total? Oh, total, no, total. Okay. All right, I don't know.

I got one. Three, two, one. 5,100. Oh. Would you? What'd you say, D.K? I said 5,000. Motherfucker, I wrote down 5,000, too.

We all, you said 5-5 and you said 51, Craig? I said 51 because I always want to guess a little bit off a whole round number now. Just in case. All right, well, D.K., you can go higher or lower than me. It's probably lower. Lower. Idiot, it's 5,001. No, it's not.

The answer is 10,628. Bang. Which is a lot. 1,000. It's a lot of three-pointers. I wonder what about that guy's breakfast was that day. Okay, so D.K., you get to pick, you get Fanon. No, Craig gets Fanon.

Yeah. I'm going to go, sorry, yeah. Yeah, you're next. I think there's two guys. It's between Darren Waller for the Dolphins, who I know he isn't playing at them, but I kind of don't care because his next two weeks is the Steelers and the Bengals. I think Waller realistically is probably a better stash if you first round by.

I am doing this in the Ringer League. I'm stashing Darren Waller for week 16 because he's playing the Bengals. But by that logic, I think you probably for this week one, Isaiah likely for the Ravens, even though all this motherfucker does is get cut touchdowns called back from week one of last year, like, all Isaiah likely does is, but, you know, but the Ravens, literally the top tight ends in fantasy this year are just Trey McBride and then tight ends who've played the Bengals. And so when Isaiah likely played the Bengals on Thanksgiving, he had 95 yards and again, fumbled

the touchdown out of the end zone, he didn't get credit for her. He had the touchdown last week that got knocked out of his hands, but that would have been second of the day. So I think Isaiah likely versus the Bengals if he's available is a uncommonly good streaming option. Yeah, he took my answer on that one. I'll go with Colston Loveland. Going all bears on mine. What could go wrong?

Just love the eight degrees. Yeah, sounds great. Carol Fanon is going to be like a top five pick of Tide End in Fantasy next year? Shoulder's the quarterback, kind of? Fanon's like a receiver, man. And I mean, the comp for him was like an Isaiah likely, like a smaller school, smaller tight end who's really receiver.

But, I mean, Fanon's done more of the season than likely kind of ever has. the year. You know? He's playing a ton, too. He looks good. Yeah. I think Fandon's been phenomenal.

The other tight end I'll say, a guy who I think is available is Theo Johnson for the Giants, who they run up by, I think he might have gotten cut. Again, the Giants had two weeks to target Bobby Wagner, who, again, Bobby Wagner, inside lineback for Washington is amazing against the run still, even though he's fucking 36 and getting a master's,

or he's getting his NBA right now. But I don't think Bobby Wagner is going to be able to cover tight ends. I know these great coverage right now. I think the Giants. Theo Johnson's also just a really, really good bet for a touchdown off wave of wire, Ted Energy. Dude, he's also, Theo Johnson is a dog. Theo Johnson fought that Patriots player after the Jackson Dart hit. I love that. He's kind of trying to be a disgusting brother with Scadaboo and Dart. Like, he wants to be the bonus Jonas, the third. A hundred percent. He is quietly the bonus Jonas. He's also like a weird guy. He's also a sicko. He's also a big guy. He's also a sicko. He will fight people. He's replaced Scadaboo as the booper. Yeah. I like him. He's also massive. He's huge fucking guy.

No, yeah, Theo Johnson's the man. Shout out to D.K. And athletic tennis. One of the most athletic testers of all time. So Harold Fanon. So is Mike Koscikine. Penn State. Okay.

Harold Fanon. Oh, by the way, I would go with Mike Kosicki this week if T. Higgins is out, which he very... Oh, yeah. Teagan's a concusses. Well, yeah. So Mike Kosicki probably is a good up. Change you my answer to Mike Kiski. Over who? Over Loveland.

Would you take Fanon or Gisicki for this week? Fanon. Would you take... Is they likely or Gisiki this week? Likely. And then Gisiki third? I think Gisiki third. Theo Johnson or Loveland fourth?

Would you for sure take Fanon over Gisiki? Yes. Yeah. They're playing at Chicago. Again, this is going to be the, this is the 8 degrees game, and the Bengals and Gassiki are playing the Ravens, the Burrow?

I don't know. Yeah, I guess you probably do take fanning because he's been so good, but, uh, uh, I know what you're saying, Chris. I think you're doing. You're in an eight-degree game versus Joe Burrow. I know what you're saying.

It's one of those ways it makes sense, and then you turn the game on and you're watching the Cleveland Browns and then like the other TV is the Cincinnati Bengals and you're like, which one of these did I pick with my season on the line? Yeah, it's tough. Fanon is going to be more valuable for multiple weeks, though, I would say.

Well, it's one week at a time. T. Higgins also might not be back for multiple weeks. He's had two concussions in three weeks. Yeah, you're right. Also, Gisicki, the week after that, the Bengals played the Dolphins, and the dolphins can't really cover tight ends either. I also don't think the multi-week thing

if you're streaming a tight-end, you can't think a week. Like, I think you gotta go. Like, I think that's a tiebreaker. No, you gotta think like Dom Torretto. Quarter mile. Quarter mile of time. That's fair.

Okay. Okay. Quarterbacks. Man, there's a lot of quarterback stuff. I mean, it's not necessarily all the fantasy stuff, but I mean, Gino Smith is hurt. So Kenny Pickett might be playing for the Raiders. Shooter Sanders is going to start for the Browns.

I don't think you want those people. I think for fantasy, if you actually need to play quarterback, I think Marcus Mariotta for Washington, like he had 24 points versus Denver, and then he had negative points less sweet versus the Vikings. But the Washington's playing the Giants. The Giants have actually led the most rushing yards per game to quarterbacks, opposing quarterbacks to fantasy. So I would play Marioita. If he's not there, I guess I would play CJ Stroud before I went down with my season online with JJ McCarthy.

But McCarthy is probably, I guess, startable as is Tyler Shuck, who is actually, Tyler Shuck, who is actually, Tyler Shuck, for your pride. But I think, yeah, Marioita, Stroud, Tyler, Shuck, McCarthy. and I can't have my season on the line to play Shuders Sanders. So I think those are the guys. You're not buying into the Kenny Pickett revenge game in Philadelphia? No.

Could though. I mean, you just wait. Can he picket the filter? The sort. Defenses, I think the Jags defense, because if they're playing the Jets, you're getting either the injured Terad Taylor or injured Justin Fields

or undrafted free agent Brady Cook. So I think that is incredible if the Jags are available. The Niners defense off a by versus Cam Ward, who I know had a good game, but he still takes sacks, and I still think Niners D could have a good game versus Tennessee. Bears' defense versus the Browns. That's a big one. Bears' defense leads the NFL in turnovers.

Shedars Sanders, feeling himself off 360 yards. The Browns center, Ethan Pochich, has a torn Achilles, Posich. And, I mean, centers are underrated injuries in terms of offense function. I just think Shedars prime to have a regression. And then if you want to stash for Week 16, Chiefs are facing the Titans. Cam Ward, again, takes a lot of sacks. Buffalo versus Cleveland also. I know the Buffalo defense hasn't been great,

but I still kind of think Shador might be a good target. And then week 17, if anyone has cut them because of the buy, the Patriots play the Jets in Week 17. And if anyone cut the Patriots defense because they run by, the Jets, whether it's Trad Taylor or Justin Fields or Brady Cook, versus the week later to Week 17, I think could be profitable. Apologies if you mention them, but if you're just doing week to week and you'll reassess the following week,

did you mention Dallas? They're playing Minnesota. Dallas is also, you could do Dallas as well versus the Vikings. Yeah. The Vikings have given up the single most fantasy points to opposing defenses this season. You could do worse than trying to just target changing. Maybe that's dumb, but I'm like, J.J. McCarthy, would you guys say it's more likely he throws three touchdowns or three picks next week? Probably three picks. Yeah. All right. You want to do some emails and get out of here? Let's do it. Sure. Also, wait, I'm doing kickers. We never took kickers. If they're available,

because if they're available, they're probably not. Obviously, Brandon, Robbery. Jason Myers in Seattle. Cam Dicker, the kicker for the Chargers, Jake Bates for the Lions, Chris Boswell for the Steelers. I would take those guys. I assume they're rostered. If not, Kayami Fairbairn for the Texans, who's an awesome kicker, perfect fantasy kicker because the Texans defense is awesome. The Texans' offense cannot score in the red zone. All indoors. Arizona, Raiders, Raiders, Chargers, don't have to worry about freaking weather. Camie Fairbairn. Andy Borgalis for the Patriots is a good kicker. It's outside, so it's not as fun. But he's just a, Rabel is not a fourth down guy. The Patriots are always in field position.

I just think Andy Borgalas, carry me fairbairn. Even freaking Harris and Mivas, if you also want to just play the indoors game. The thick kicker. It's tough because the Rams always score in the red zone, but Mivas. I like Mavis. The thicker kicker. Yeah. I don't like weather.

I don't want the fucking Brandon McManus with my season on the line in eight-degree weather. Okay. Emails, Craig, you asked for Josh Allen getting a nickname. Oh, yeah. So this is from Chris. Chris. C-bone. Turns out Josh Allen has a nickname.

I guess the Bill's fans call him the Winter Soldier. Oh. I don't like that. I don't like it either. I'd rather call him Josh Allen. I'd rather call him the snowplow. So they call him the... So they call him the...

I don't know. I don't accept the Winter Soldier. The snowplow's gritty. What about the indomitable throw man? No. Really funny, clever, too hard to say. Someone else emailed in The Buffalo. And I was like, ah, that's harder than...

Someone else just said we should call him Buffalo Bill. if his name was Bill sure of course but we run into a slight problem period his name is not Bill could be Bill Merritt didn't stop him all right and winter soldier

winter soldier I uh nope it's stuck though nope I didn't know does that ring a bell now seeing the email somewhere in the recesses of my brain of course once I got the email that I saw it in ESPN

like three times oh really yeah I mean I it's a it is a it fits it's a good name it's relevant. I understand it. Okay. This email is from Shane. Shane S. Bone. I am, so the subject

line is I'm a football ref in high school and low-level college. Oh. After we went out of referee rant. And Shane writes, Why? Well, you get to do it. Shane writes, I fought the urge to send this email for months, but I couldn't hold back

this time. I agree that your criticisms of NFL officiating are valid. And I cringe when the product looks sloppy over turning a booth review, taking 20 minutes to review something that looks obvious to 90% of America, et cetera. From my perspective, part of the problem is that every high-level game, and of course, every game in the NFL, every game has evaluators grading the officials and the crew on their

performance. And because of that, I tend to notice over corrections on mistakes in prior weeks. So there's points of emphasis. Furthermore, evaluators have different rule interpretations and may want some things called that others don't. So there's a brutal, so he points out. like a brutal missed offenses past interference that 90% of America saw one week.

The next week there's too many offenses past interferences and it becomes a point of emphasis and that is what leads to a lot of overcorrections. No official wants to be that guy who missed a glaring call. So when they're kind of like, oh, like call this this week, then they all call it. It's funny.

That just feels so, I don't know, unprofessional and like reactive and that just seems like a very human thing to do and I don't really see them as that. They're subhuman. I can't believe it. It's like, well, I don't want people to be mad at me because of last week,

so I'll overcompensate this week. I don't know. So Shane also writes. It doesn't seem like a good system. Yeah, I'm like, well. It's just like any, I don't know. Shane also writes on top, this one I did, this one I did not really fully understand.

On top of that, the NFL rule book is incredibly complex. I read it yearly and I find myself going, huh half the time. The answer is usually not in the rulebook. The answer is usually in the case book, which is a separate document that covers all the, what if this weird thing happens scenarios?

So it's literally case law, but for lawyer. Yes. That's why they're all lawyers. So I didn't know this. So for example, the Isaiah likely touchdown ruling would be found in the casebook, not the rule book, because the rule book does not explicitly address something like,

what happens if the receiver is two and a half feet down and extends the ball? And then as the third foot's coming down, he loses control. And that's called like likely v. Pittsburgh, 2025. So all that's to say regarding... What are we supposed to do with the case book? You read it. So all that to say regarding Craig's comment,

you couldn't pay me enough to be a ref. He says in high school games, 95% of the time, everything goes smoothly. And maybe each coach has a question, and you know, we explain what we saw. The other 5% are either really fun or awful. Well, I feel like as a high school ref, there is not 52 cameras for,

50 million people to sit on their couch and judge you off of. Exactly. I, oh, the angriest I ever was at a high school ref was on my football team, we had our running back. This was, you know, just, you know, like some, you beat the guys to the edge and you kind of like run through the corner.

He ran through the corner. Like, untouched, like a jog to the corner of the pylon, just beat everyone. And the ref ruled that the ball never crossed the pylon. The ref ruled that he just ran through the end zone. He didn't like, knock the pylon over. And the ref was like, well, The ball never crossed.

The angle of his torso and the ref starts explaining to my coach that the ball never crossed, even though he ran through the end zone. Who won that battle? We lost because of the, oh, yeah, no, he, the ref. I'm saying that call was not overturned. The ref stuck with that call. The ref stuck with the call. And the coach, my coach wasn't any of that angry.

He just looked at him and was like, you don't do that, man. You don't do that. You don't do it. That's not, you don't do that. He got in the end zone. His two feet were in the end zone. You're the first person to ever call this. I was like, fuck.

It was his first day probably. Anyway, all right. So Shane will be a ref correspondent. Dude, that's great. We need to get more of those. More? I want more, course. He needs to be, we need our own Terry McCauley.

Okay. Just to pop in. Like, I'll read the trivia and then someone else pops in it. Carlos is like, that's actually wrong, but we don't update the standings. You know what somebody asked me over the weekend? They were like, why doesn't Carlos read the trivia and find the trivia? and find the trivia so that we can't complain about high fits knowing the answer or preparing for the answer for hours on end. Why doesn't just the producer do it?

We have figured out the system, which is when I read the emails, I write down the answer. Because I think that it was fairer that I had more time to think about it. So I'm like, I'll just answer it like 10 seconds. I'll think about it for like two. As much time as you get to take, I think five seconds that I read it down. And then there's just yelling over each other. That cannot be simpler than just the producer finding the questions and asking them. than us relying to, us just having to believe that you answer the question in 10 seconds.

You don't believe me. That's not what I'm saying. This was an outside perspective. Okay. That's all. Sounds like you don't believe me. I can see their point. I can see their point.

It's like, why wouldn't just a fourth person read the trivia question to the three participants? And to me, that does make sense. Maybe. It is rare that, you know, on trivia night at the bar, that the person reads, reading the questions is also participating in the trip. Well, not even winning in any. It's rare. You're at first. I'm tied for first. Yeah, well.

Tide for second. Last one we can go. This was a pretty great email. All right, this is from David. Dave. Debo. Watching a game this weekend, when a penalty for false start was announced, I heard in my head false fart. Okay. Sure. From listening to many fart or short segments.

And I immediately thought that false fart could be a part of shart as in fart, shart or false fart. Isn't a false fart? I guess what would that be in the context of that category? I think it's you have to, you don't, it's like Joe Burrow

like fart, like he kind of lost them the game, but it's a false fart. It's like he threw two picks in a row. No one cares. But that's a far. That's what a fart is. In the category, a fart is when it's something that you don't believe is permanent. That's true. I just kind of wanted a reason. I think false fart is just really fun. A false fart sounds like a shit to me. Oh, maybe shart. Oh.

False shart. A false fart. Maybe it's not a full-on shart. Maybe a false shart is when you think you have to poop, but you don't. I don't know if there's a difference. Once you shard a little bit, there's no difference between sharding a lot. Look, Dave, I want to say thank you for trying to innovate coming in here. But unfortunately, fart or shard is fucking bulletproof.

It's perfect as it is. I don't know what to say. That thing's fucking iron. ironclad. All right, that thing is locked in ready to go, week after week.

Oh, yeah, keep emailing a set on that. The Fartter Shart Constitution. Okay. Kind of impenetrable. All right, I think that's all we got. Thank you, D.K., thank you,

Craig. Thank you, Kallis. Thank you, Riont. Thank you, Ron. Thank you, awesome. Thank you, everyone for listening. Email us, your fantasy courts, ring your fantasy football at g-gmill.com.

Emails, edits on Fartter Shart. No false farts. Craig doesn't want any false farts. No false farting. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, DJ, Cool. K?

Yeah, K-E-W-L? Let me clear my throat. No, I think it's O-O-O-L. D-C. D-C. If y'all want a party like we do, if y'all want a party like us, let me hear you say. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Dada-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Bum, b'-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. did it. It's a good song. It is. Gets the people going. Yeah.

I don't know if he did any other songs. That might be his only song that he ever made. What a time that was when you could name yourself DJ Cool and everyone's like, cool name, man. Why did I take that? You know? Yeah. Now it's like you could only get away with that if it's like incredibly ironic.

Right. DJ Cool. Kind of like LMFIO. Yeah. Like if my Twitter handle was like Mr. football. You know? Mr. Manager. Goodbye, everyone.

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