The Ringer NFL Show - Kamara Goes Nuclear, Davante’s Historic Snow Day, and Championship Winners and Losers

Episode Date: December 28, 2020

We discuss the grief of facing Alvin Kamara in a fantasy championship after what may have been the greatest fantasy performances of all time. Then we list our winners and losers from a wild Week 16, b...efore closing the book on the 2020 Ringer Fantasy Burn Book, handling a complicated Fantasy Court case, and announcing our plans for the 2020-21 NFL playoffs. Winners: Headline: Alvin Kamara, Saints (0:52) Travis Kelce, Chiefs (10:51) Davante Adams, Packers (14:52) Random High Scorers (20:21) Bucs Offense (22:57) Losers: The Browns (29:36) Le’Veon Bell, Chiefs (32:58) Elite WRs (33:55) Fantasy Burn Book (36:18) Fantasy Court (40:56) Fun Fact (50:10) Email us! Ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com! To donate to your favorite fantasy players' charities, click here! Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 On today's episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, we go through our winners of the week for Week 16, which is mostly talking about Alvin Camara, oh my God. But also Travis Kelsey having the best tight end season ever, and Devante Adams having the best snow game ever. And we also settle a fantasy court dispute over an allegedly corrupt championship, and we give our final burn book of the season. Stick around.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifis. I am here with Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. and we have not talked about Alvin Camara yet. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. Holy cow. What?
Starting point is 00:00:51 Like literally, what the fuck? What the fuck? Dana Kelly and I were talking before we started. Both of us lost our championships because we went up against Alvin Kamara, even though we both had the better teams. I had the best team all year and Alvin Kamara. Bill talks about fantasy murders. Alvin Kamara is the biggest serial killer in fantasy football history.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Oh, my God. My perfect season is just what. down in flames because of Alvin Camara. I was telling Craig this. So I don't know one gives a shit about my fantasy league. But we have split standings, Dynasty League. So basically we have head-to-head plus top six get a win for each week. I was 22 and 4.
Starting point is 00:01:26 I scored 300 more points than the next fucking closest team. And then I went up against Alvin Camara in the finals and lost. Just brutal. Do you want to know who the fucking quarterbacks of the guy I lost to? Sorry, JJ. You have a good team. He did lose Joe Burrow. Screw you, Jay.
Starting point is 00:01:43 He fucking started Mike Lennon and Jared Gough. In the championship? He lost the Jared Gough and Mike Lennon. In my opponent's defense, he lost Joe Burrow and Minchu earlier in the season. So I was like, he was just kind of like scraping long. Yeah, that is the, that is the devastation that Alvin Camara wrought on fantasy finals. Just brutal. Just to go over the actual stats here.
Starting point is 00:02:10 He had the most PPR points ever in championship. Championship week. He had 56 points. That's per Tristan Cockroft of ESPN. He had 155 rushing yards. It was a career high. And he had six rushing touchdowns. Also a career high.
Starting point is 00:02:24 No shit. It was the most rushing touchdowns since Ernie Nevers in 1929. That's the day I learned that they had rushing touchdowns on record back to 1929. I thought it was like 1934 was the cutoff. Yeah, Ernie caused the Great Depression
Starting point is 00:02:38 because of his six touchdowns. The crazy, okay, the craziest thing about this whole thing. That was tied for the longest standing individual record in the NFL. Are you serious? The unbeatable individual record in the NFL, six rushing touchdowns in a game. I did not know that. It was 91 years.
Starting point is 00:02:56 That, it blows my mind. First of all, thanks for having that happen in the championship week, Tamara, for fuck's sake. Dude, that's the thing. It was like a tsunami or like an asteroid. It was like this unsurvivable event. It was just like, like, there was that New Yorker article a few years ago about the earthquake that's just like when a tsunami hits, you know, there's nothing you can It's like you just don't be there when it happens. That was Cameran the championship.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Like, were you there? Did you have them? Ugh, tough. The nice part, the nice part about the whole thing was, though, it happened. Was it Friday or Saturday? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:03:25 It was Christmas Day. It was Christmas Day. Oh yeah, that's right. It ruined Christmas. It ruined Christmas. This was like the Grinch of it or unless you had him, it was like the greatest Christmas gift of all. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It was like, it's like a Christopher Nolan movie. You walked out and either had a great time or you hated it, but it's like there's no in between. It's like just complete divisions. He was either the best Christmas or the worst. I really want to know if there's a statistic out there. If anyone has it, did anyone lose in the championship with Camaro?
Starting point is 00:03:49 I want another percentage. I think a few people might have. The only way it happened is you had to be going against basically Devante, Mike Evans. Oh, that's the other thing. My opponent had Devante too. Sorry. I was done. I was done.
Starting point is 00:04:03 But this might be the highest percentage of teams that have ever won with a single player on their team in the championship. I bet you 95% of the teams on. Over the summer, like every year we've been doing, this podcast. We always talk about there's one fascinating stat that we always go over, which is the players that were on certain percentages of rosters that won their championships. Yahoo doesn't release that.
Starting point is 00:04:22 The league winners. Yeah, league winners. Eastbyn releases... Yeah, it was Lamar and McCaffrey last year. Yeah, McCaffrey two years ago was on like 40% of teams in the championship. Alvin Camara honestly must have been on more than half of the championship winners this year, or something close.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It has to be the record breaking for league winning player, because other than like girly a couple years ago, but this was different. This was, if you made it, you probably won 90% of the Camara winners won their championship. I want to say one thing,
Starting point is 00:04:51 this is what I was going to get to, is like the nice part about going up against Camara this week is that I skipped right to acceptance like on Friday. You know, in the seven stages of grief or whatever. Five. Five, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Well, you probably added a couple for this process because they're so weird. Let them drag out. Have you guys seen that YouTube video of The Draft? adult swim made it of the giraffe in quicksand going through the stages of grief it is so funny no I have no
Starting point is 00:05:18 so off the time of my head there's like denial bargaining I can't remember it's denial anger bargaining oh shit I already screwed it up we could we could let's look it up really quick denial anger bargaining depression acceptance just oh yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:05:36 so you just went it straight from denial I skipped straight to acceptance because I was like there's no fucking way I'm winning Did you go straight to it or is it one stage for every touchdown? No, yeah. And then six is oblivion. My depression, my depression hit somewhere around like TD number four. Four, because three is like still in the realm of reality.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Great game. Maybe one of my guys can put this up. Four is like, holy crap. Five is they're throwing up stats of like, this is one of the greatest fantasy performances of all time. And it's like, who's Norm Van Brocklin? And then when he scored his sixth and final touchdown with like a minute left, which absolutely should not have happened at all.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And he came back into doing it. They should have just been taking in the knee or whatever. I respect it. And then he scores a fucking six touchdown, of course, after Taysom had sniped him of his six earlier in the game. Like, when he hit that six touchdown, that was when I was like, okay, I'm ready to die. I know that I'm dying. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I've never seen a team with more just like goal line opportunities. They were in one yard line. What's the hell? I will never forgive the Vikings. Never. Never forgive them. I don't care if they had backups. Once the fifth touchdown happened, I had this quote rattling around in my head from Mike Zimmer from like August.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Because the Vikings got rid of like three cornerbacks and like they let so many defensive free agents go. And they asked Mike Zimmer. Was he worried about having a bad defense? And I remember he said, I've never had a bad defense before and I don't plan to now. He just started thinking about that the whole game. And also it's not an accident.
Starting point is 00:07:09 This was the Saints. The Saints. love to run up the score. There is no team that enjoys running up the score more than New Orleans. Don't forget Michael Thomas got hurt in week one because Michael Thomas was on the field up like 18 points with 90 seconds left.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And then they also ran up the score on the buck. So when Camero went out there, like Schoenfei just wanted him to break the record. It was hilarious. Which is hilarious because he also took him off the field for that Taysam Hill touchdown that would have been his sixth, like with two minutes left or whatever. It's just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:07:39 We're also bearing the important part here. You know, one of the people who had Alvin Cameroon one, Baylon Breeze, Drew Brees's son. Drew Breast said it a press conference, today's Monday. Drew Breast said in a press conference that his son. Collusion. Calusion. Fantasy court.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Fantasy court. Was this all for Baylon Combears? Stop the count. Billing Breeze, the next Pete Rose. It was like, oh my God. Oh, my God. All right, we got to get that other way.
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm glad we bottled that up. I got to say, we've just spent the last. 10 minutes bitching about this, but like if you had Camara, that's just pure fantasy heroin, right? Like that was the greatest. It's blessed. It's the greatest. What's that? I think you were the audience avatar. I think everyone listening can you just pretend that you
Starting point is 00:08:22 were the person they beat? And that was like really satisfying for everyone. It's got to be the greatest moment in fantasy history. Yeah. I really think it might be. Fifty-six points in PPR. It was also on Christmas day. We cannot over exaggerate. Like literally on Christmas he gifted you a
Starting point is 00:08:38 weekend of shit talking your friends. with the total confidence you were going to win. I mean, I know, actually, shout out Shurston Johnson, copy editor for the Ringer, who in one of the Ringer Fantasy leagues had Camara and Mike Evans and almost won in the championship on her own. I mean, I think a lot of people had that.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Like, just you're getting 90 points, basically, from two players. It's unbelievable. Yeah, I was trying to bargain with the guy I was going up against my championship. Like, hey, how much can I pay you to sit two players? Just to, like, make this even. No, there's the bargaining.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Was that the third of first? touchdown. Yeah, you're right. After three, I bargained. Should we get under the rest of the fantasy universe? It did Camara like collapse it in and itself? Like it was a time shifting event. Yeah, so we'll get into our final top scores, right, of the week for the season.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And what's weird is like, of course, this was like a really weird week. All the top scores were not typical guys, which made Kamara's outburst even worse. Well, we'll go through the top scores, but keep in mind, this, the lineup feels like week 17. This is like why you don't play week 17 because the score is. look like this. But I'm going to, QB1 was Andy Dalton. Unbelievable. Of course.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Of course. He was Sean Watson. And QB3 was Aaron Rogers. RB1 was, yeah, you know. RB2 was Miles Gaskin. He comes off the COVID list in as the RV2. He got that vaccine. Got the vaccine. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:10:01 He was Somaget P. Ryan, which is hilarious. And then I'll see David Johnson was right there. And then wide receivers were Devante Mike Evans and then Michael Gallup. I got a bone to pick with Michael Gallup later Fantasy Resurrection Tight end one was Irv Smith Jr. A week late for Craig, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Craig, you were just a week too early on that one. I know. And then was Jimmy Graham and Travis Kelsey and then the defenses were unremarkable. It was the Panthers, the Bucs, and then the Ravens and Jets tied. But holy crap. Okay. Can we go back and,
Starting point is 00:10:31 has Travis Kelsey been in the top three every week? How many weeks are you not in the top three? I'm going to talk about that. I'm going to talk about that. Non-Kamara division is Travis. Obviously, Camara is the winner of the week, maybe of the next 10 years of fantasy. So, but other than him, who's your winner of fantasy championship weekend, D.K.?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, I'm just going to, I'll skip straight to my second one. This is Travis Kelsey of the Chiefs because, okay, first of all, he has 1,416 receiving yards, so 1,416, most in the NFL and most by a tight end in single season history. So that is just, first of all, you know, not even from a fantasy point of view, amazing that he has the most. He had the most receiving yards from a tight end ever. That's awesome. There's a game left if they wanted to do it. This is not over.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Is he number one in receiving two? I didn't check after... I believe he is. No, he is. But he might not finish with it. He is number one right now. Yeah, he's number one right now. Because I feel like they could bench him next week.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Stefan Diggs is playing... So we're recording Monday afternoon. Diggs is playing tonight. And he is currently 102 yards behind. So there's a chance. Anyways, regardless. Travis Kelsey, man, hell of a job. 13 targets, 7 catches, 98 yards, and a touchdown this week.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I saw this actually from Jetpack Galileo on Twitter. What? Did you say Jetpack Galileo? You kind of just scooted right past that. Excuse me? Jetpack Galileo. What the hell is Jetpack Galileo? This is like when Craig got info from TikTok.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I'm not sure about the origin of that name, but an analyst from the fantasy football astronauts. Looked into the microscope or the telescope. one of those. That's the order. Yes, I assume so. Anyhow, so Travis Kelsey, currently is the highest single season tight-end fantasy points per game ever in PPR at 20.9 per game. Gromk is the gold standard at 20.7. So we'll see what happens after this week. But really, honestly, who cares? Because this is like the fantasy season is over at this point. So best season from a tight end ever in average
Starting point is 00:12:33 points per game in PPR. I just keep coming back to what Craig said in August, which is every year, I don't draft Travis Kelsey in the second round. Every year I wish I drafted Travis Kelsey in the second round. And this year I won't do it and I'll regret it. It was more true than ever. Yeah, he was maybe not only did he average the most points ever and have the best season ever for a tight end. But it wasn't like it was because it wasn't like the Tyler Lockett effect where he had like one massive game that buoyed everything else. He was just insanely consistent all year long.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And in turn, one of the most insanely valuable players in fantasy overall. So he had, and this is switching over to. half ppr since that's kind of our standard. Five overall tight-in one weeks in
Starting point is 00:13:11 half ppr. So five times he was the top tight-end. And he was the top 12. In other words, he was a tight-end
Starting point is 00:13:19 one in 14 of 15 weeks this year, plus one by, by week, obviously, where he didn't play. And then just looking at his numbers,
Starting point is 00:13:27 I'll just list him off. And this is starting from week one. Tide-in-fives, Titan-6, tie-in-6, tied-in-one, tied-in-2.
Starting point is 00:13:33 His only little blurb was like, week 70 was a tight-old 27. I don't know what happened. Maybe got hurt halfway through the game or something. I can't remember. But week eight, tight in one.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Tie in one. Bye. Tide in one. Three weeks in a row. Tide in one. Twelve. This is week 12. Tis two.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Tid in one. Tad in three. Tid in three. Just like absurd. And that's why he's kind of a glansberg of the year because no one talked about Travis Kelsey all year because he literally was just putting up 20 a game every single week. There's nothing to talk about.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. Like play Travis Kelsey. He's awesome. There's nothing to talk about here. It's, and there's no matchup. You don't have to worry about matchups. You don't have to worry about anything. Not to mention he doesn't even lead the team in touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Tyree Kill has four more touchdowns than him on the season. Like, it's like there was meat on the bones still here. And yet Travis Kelsey is just, it is, I mean, it's really the simple. If you drafted Camara on the first round and Kelsey in the second round, you won. That's it. Yeah. There you go. Congrats.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Man. Anyways, Kelsey, big winner of the week, big winner of the season. Congrats. Good job. Great pick for anyone that took him. Craig, who's your winner of the week non-camara division? So mine is Devante Adams
Starting point is 00:14:42 who put up 37.7 points this week and man, just Devante's season, I think Hyfitts you predicted that he would break the catch record which, you know, maybe he didn't do that but he pretty much broke every other record. Dude, Devante Adams finished as the wide receiver won in points per game,
Starting point is 00:14:59 which makes sense, right? In average because he missed two and a half games, but he's still fucking finished as the overall ride receiver one too. Unbelievable. And he missed two and a half Friken games. Did you see the crowny ad on Sunday Night
Starting point is 00:15:10 football last night on the sideline? He finished, he averaged 26.3 points per game in PPR, which is not only the most anyone has ever seen in fantasy football former wide receiver, but is the third highest ever. Of any player of any position? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Maybe that quarter of that. Say that again? He averaged the third most PPR points ever by a position player. Oh my God. 26.3 a game. That's so many points. He scored a hundred.
Starting point is 00:15:37 He scored 100 more points than the next guy who played the same amount of games as him, which is Adam Phelan. Wow. I want to talk about the Sunday night game specifically, because it was a blizzard, and he had 11 catches for 142 R2-33 touchdowns. I did a little research. I think this is the best snow performance ever by a wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Weather Craig. Would not be surprised. Weather Craig coming and struck. I went back and looked. So he had 37.7 points. Here are the other nominees. Randy Moss in 2009. He had 34.9 points.
Starting point is 00:16:08 He had eight catches, 129 yards, and three touchdowns, and a 59 to zero win over the Titans. And Brady threw six touchdowns that game. And what's crazy is literally the only three nominees are all Patriots. The next one is Gronk in 2011. He had 145 yards and three touchdowns and a 45 to 10 win against the Broncos in the playoffs in the snow. Brady also threw six touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:16:28 And then Welker, in the same game that Moss had those three touchdowns in the snow, Welker at 150 yards and two touchdowns. That Titans game, it was 59-0. In my life, that's the most dominant football game I've ever seen. I mean, with the exception of like when Alabama plays like the Citadel, that's the highest level football it's ever been played in the NFL's. 59-0-in-in-the- Snow Pat's Titans. But I will say to Devante last night, first of all, it's a great find.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Wow, the best snow game ever. I think that Collinsworth put it good on the Sunday night broadcast when he said, I would just, like, the MVP is Devante's shoes because watching. his feet. It's like the other guys are slipping and he's not. And you could have convinced me that he had like cheated. Like his cleats were like super designed by Nike or something to like not slip and were illegal. And because the fact that I even thought that was plausible is like that's how good he is. Like the best players have like legends like Barry Sanders. There's like this
Starting point is 00:17:23 theory that he had like oil or something on his jersey against the Vikings in a game. Obviously didn't. But the fact that it's plausible is how good he is. Devonte just looked like he wasn't playing on snow. It was he's so. far and above the best receiver in the NFL, it is astonishing to watch. So I wanted to give him a shout out. Best snow game ever. Best snow game of all time. You mentioned Randy Moss, and that was the, was that the 2007 season that you're talking
Starting point is 00:17:49 about? Oh, that was 2009. Oh, nine. So Randy Moss. That's the best game I've ever seen played. His 2007 season is kind of like considered the gold standard for receivers. Obviously, he had 23 touchdowns that season, which is the most ever in a single year. For some context, I saw this from Kyle South from E.
Starting point is 00:18:05 ESPN. For context of how good Devante Adams has been this year, the first 13 games around Randy Moss's 2007 season. So obviously, DeMonte Adams has missed two and a half games this year. So it's not apples, apples. But first 13 games for Randy Moss, 82 catches, 22 yards and 19 touchdowns. And then 32 fantasy points. The first 13 games for Adams this year, 109 catches. So almost like 30 more. 1,300 yards and 17 touchdown. So he came up two touchdowns short, but he's actually scored more fantasy points this season, 341.8 fantasy points through 13 games than Moss did in 2007. Well, take away the points because I think that's skewed by PPRs. But if you're just talking about yards, you're saying that Devonite through 13 games to do apples to apples,
Starting point is 00:18:54 13 games with Moss's 13 games, he's like 30 yards ahead of Moss and two touchdowns behind. He is 60 yards ahead. He had 1,328. Wait, that's insane. 30 catches more. Yeah. So if you played 16,
Starting point is 00:19:08 it might have been one of the, like he really had an outside, outside chance at getting 23 touchdowns. He has 20 touchdowns in his last 16 games. Devante Adams does. Oh my God. Okay. He's the most dominant receiver in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:19:22 It's like not even close at this point, I don't think. I completely agree. Okay. My, wow, what a trio like Camara Devante and Kelsey. It's just unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:19:32 You don't, you want to actually know something funny, just not to talk about my. fantasy again, but I actually went into Sunday night's game winning over that team that had Camara, even though I already reached acceptance stage, like on Friday. And I needed him to score less than 11 points, which was obviously impossible. But he scored 11 points in like the first like three minutes. Rodney's had less than 11 points about three times in the last three years. Rogers is MVP chasing hardcore. Like they're not running inside the five of the snow.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah. Rogers actually overtook Mahomes this week in the MVP odds. So. Yeah. There you go. My winner for this week is just all the guys who were doing nothing until two weeks ago. I mean, it's amazing to me how many, if you just look through your championship matchup and you look at whoever swung the game, there's Camara and Devonty and Kelsey, obviously. But the other bit players in the games, I can't believe how many high scores were guys that were just not playing or irrelevant from like Halloween to like mid-December. I mean, we're talking about Miles Gaskin who missed like seven of the last nine games. Gio Bernard, who had more points in his last two games than like the previous six he had,
Starting point is 00:20:43 even though Mixing was out for all of them. Guys who just showed up for the semis, David Johnson, Craig's David Johnson, had more points in the last two weeks than he had from like week six combined between injuries and just incompetence. I just can't. J.D. McKissick had his best two games of the season in the semis in the fantasy championship week. Lenny Fornes, who was irrelevant for large stretches of the year. Lenny Forns had six touchdowns this year. Three were in the last two weeks.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You've got Jeff Wilson comes out of nowhere to be top. I mean, well, you know, bold prediction, but actually was a top 10 back this week. Zeke Elliott was good again for the first time forever. He looked pretty good. This gives me hope for next year. Oh, yeah. Turns out he's good. Yeah. He just saw Tony Pollard be good. I was like, hope, I got to do something. He read the tweets, apparently.
Starting point is 00:21:30 He read the tweets. Dude, Jameson crowd. was good for the first time and forever. It was just the guys who were contributing were, if you stuck with them, were so rewarding. It was like the Craig thing of, am I crazy or am I so sane? That's the people who started James and Crowder. Shout out Riley McAty, your editor, D.K., won the Ringer Fantasy League by starting Jameson Crowder at Flex. I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:21:53 Nice. I was taken aback by the mix of pure bona fide stars, Camara, Kelsey Devante, that shook that swung leagues and Mike Evans combined with Jeff Wilson Miles Gaskin David
Starting point is 00:22:10 guys who were like irrelevant in the middle of November so I just I was blown away by that Can I say one thing about David Johnson's season please?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Say two I just kind of want to give a subtle shout out David Johnson scored single digit points once how many games did he end up? He played like what
Starting point is 00:22:27 seven games He played in 11 but he got hurt in that 11 so the 10 games he finished He scored double-digit points in every game but one. Just saying, on a broken Jackson team. It's not shabby.
Starting point is 00:22:37 That's better than I thought he would do, honestly. So, kudos. Wow. Okay. I got one more just to add to the pile because we were talking about how absolutely just scorched earth the Packers were against the Titans last night. The Buccaneers against the Lions was unreal.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That was the least competitive NFL game. High Fitz, you just mentioned Alabama. Like, that was the worst game. I've seen an NFL team play the line. It was the same thing as the Saints Vikings game, but just the passing version. I was watching it like, what, Saturday morning? And I was like, is six touchdowns just the rule this week?
Starting point is 00:23:11 I thought Brady was going to get to six touchdowns. Because are you only allowed to have six touchdowns? It was a reminder that when we talk about players sometimes, sometimes we can be the tail wagging the dog. It's like coaching is the number one thing that matters in football. And if you ever question that, look to this freaking Lions game where the Lions had their entire defensive staff, not there because of COVID protocols.
Starting point is 00:23:32 And then Darryl Bevel, who spent his 30th or 20th wedding anniversary in isolation because he was a close contact. And then he missed this game. But I honestly regret not like refinancing a mortgage and putting it on the bucks in this game. Because the idea of like, yeah, go against Tom Brady and you, I mean, what were the, what was the guy who was actually calling the defensive signals? He was like, he wasn't even like an assistant coach. I can't ever remember. He was a nobody. I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:01 It was some rando. Drew Breeze's son, I think, was doing it. It was the Patrick Laird of coaches. Anyways. So anyways, the bottom line is, if you had any of these buccaneers in your lineup this week, you were probably pretty happy. Actually, one of my buddies was texting me. He was pissed because Brady, Brady was the QB1 this week. Tom Brady played two quarters.
Starting point is 00:24:25 He was benched. He was benched at halftime. Not benched. You know what I mean? He was relieved of his bubble wrap duties. He got to hang out for the second of half. Low key, the same as that 59-0-0 game in the snow that Craig mentioned.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Tom Brady had six had six passing touchdowns in that game. He was benched with 25 minutes left in that game. Low-key, Tom Brady could have had 10 passing touchdowns. That's the real record of my mind. But anyways, Tom Brady's two of the best games we've ever seen. If Arients had gone the Sean Peyton route and just kept feeding Brady. Like Brady, Gabbard came in and threw a touchdown on his first pass. in the second half.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Brady could have easily been the QB won by like 30 points if they'd kept him in. It was that easy for them. 348 yards, four touchdowns in the first two quarters. They sat Brady down at the half. They sat Leonard Frenet down at the half even after he had scored. And luckily, thank God for people who started him this week.
Starting point is 00:25:17 He had already scored a touchdown. So he had 14.1. and half PBR. Fournett and Brady didn't play in the second half. They had to trot some receivers out there in the second half. So like Mike Evans got a bunch of garbage time. He finished as the wide receiver two. Gronkowski finished as the tight end three.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So the Buccaneers offense had QB1, the wide receiver two, and the tight end three. And this is pending Monday night football. But just a huge, huge performance. Chris Godwin had 16 points, and he mostly just played in the first half. Also, he had a touchdown that was called back
Starting point is 00:25:46 on an illegal formation, which was, like, I think pretty bogus. Like, he would have had, he would have had, you know, 25 points in the first half alone, too. Antonio Brown got the touchdown on the next play. So just ridiculous. kill us. Do you guys think that the Bucks were the number one fantasy team of 2020? Let's say you had to build a roster of a quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers, and a tight end. You think the Bucks
Starting point is 00:26:08 were the top team? I was thinking about this. And I was, it's, you want to pick the Chiefs, but the reality is that Clyde was disappointing and the running back production was nil. And that the reason, I mean, Kelsey was the number one tight end ever for any season, maybe better than Pete Grunk. And Tyree Kills is a top three receiver. Every wide receiver besides Tyree Kiel didn't really do anything. That's because they had all fan, they had no fantasy. They had no fantasy entropy. All of the Chief's fantasy points were through the three players that were in 100% of starting lineups
Starting point is 00:26:34 and they wasted no energy basically. But they didn't spread the ball around enough to give like a running back and he run. Yeah, it might be the bucks. I don't know who else you could really pick it because the Packers are the same way. It was just Devonte Rogers and Jones. And Tunyon, honestly. Oh yeah, Tunian was good. It's got to be the bucks.
Starting point is 00:26:55 Okay. Not everyone won this week. Unfortunately. Yeah. Who lost the week? Like me. Other than Indie Gay. Other than everyone, so RAP to everyone who is annihilated by the oblivion of the Alvin Camara Meteor. Can we finally, can we bring back cremated for Camar's performance?
Starting point is 00:27:12 He cremated all of us. Oh, yeah. That's what it should be saved for. I was telling Craig, there's one of my favorite expressions that's used it very frequently in like the fantasy football analyst community is when you're doing really well in fantasy, like you're running so pure. Like, oh my God, you were running so pure in that. like, is that a thing?
Starting point is 00:27:32 All your guys hit. Yeah. All you guys hit. It's new to me. All you guys get 25. Like, everything is falling perfectly. You're running pure. I ran so bad.
Starting point is 00:27:41 No, running, I like running pure. Like, running car is just like running on. Yeah. I don't know why, but I love that expression. I was the opposite of that. Whatever it is. I was, God, I ran so bad this weekend. I was in three championships.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I lost all three of them. It's brutal. Oh, my God. Tough week. But it wasn't all my fault. Camara, I blame you. And there's also a few other people that kind of lost week. Number one.
Starting point is 00:28:05 I just, I'm sorry, can we take a moment? You have such a defensive shell around this? Like, you're like, I'm okay, even though I lost the three championships. You're kind of heartbroken right now and you're putting on like, you have a defensive air to you right now? I'm trying to convince myself
Starting point is 00:28:18 that I'm okay, Danny. Okay, yeah. I'm going through the stages. I'm somewhere in the stages. I'm telling myself I'm in acceptance, but right now I might actually just be in anger and then it's like manifesting as acceptance. Like I'm pretending.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Take it out on the brown. now. I've got a ways to go in these stages. Who's your loser? Taking out the fantasy losers. This one didn't actually affect me personally too much, but the Browns pass offense this week in their loss against the Jets. I feel vindicated in sticking with the fact that I think Baker
Starting point is 00:28:45 fucking sucks because he does. Because he lost all his receivers and on the day before and they had to do a walk through in a parking garage at 8 in the morning. How about his three fumbles or whatever the fuck he had? All right, that was bad. There's some extenuating circumstances here. He lost his left tackle and one of the best guards,
Starting point is 00:29:03 Wyatt Teller, in the NFL. They also lost all their receivers, Jarvis Landry, Hollywood Higgins. Who else was there? Donovan, People's Jones. Yeah, anyway, so they lost all their main receivers. Literally, these guys that they brought up from the practice squad, nobody's ever heard of.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I never heard these names. It wasn't the practice squad guys got to practice with the first dream. They just showed up on Sunday morning and were like, okay, so you guys got to play tomorrow today because they couldn't practice on Saturday. So yeah and what I thought was going to happen was they were just going to go out there and
Starting point is 00:29:38 use they're just going to use their running back what's his face Cream Hunt to basically be like a receiver they didn't end up doing that and it's totally different because he's not practicing at the receiver spots he probably doesn't know the routes as the same as the receivers they didn't end up doing that they just used like their normal rotation of running backs
Starting point is 00:29:54 so people who plugged in Cream Hunt hoping for that massive day he did salvage legit with a touchdown, so it wasn't like he totally sunk you. But basically the only guy who was actually, there were no winners in this Brown's office. Austin Hooper had seven catches for 71 yards. He had 10 half pvr points. That's not going to win you anything.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Baker Mayfield had 285 yards on 53 attempts. They threw the ball 53 times. They had like two rushing yards in the third quarter at some point. They just couldn't do anything on offense. And Nick Shubb was bad too. I mean, Kareem Hunt salvaged it with a touchdown, but Nick Chubb was extremely disappointing because a lot of people are like, oh, we'll get a lot of rushing volume. Actually, when the offense sucks, that's not good for anybody.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So at the end of the day, the Browns basically didn't win anybody any leagues and may have lost some people some leagues. So that was a tough one. But it wasn't all their fault. You know, can we talk about Russ? I mean, we talked about potentially starting Baker over Russ. Baker at eight points. Russ had 19.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Russ was fine. He had 19.9 points. Yeah. Everybody we recommended ahead of him did well. Remember, Trubisky, who it's been Trubisky versus Russ for like the past three weeks. I feel like we've been talking about this. Trubisky at 24 points. He was better.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Is it so sane? Yeah, who is the, who surprised? Who did terribly this week? I get like. Well, Baker, but I really hope everyone who heard our Baker conversation understood that that was not when we knew that there would be four missing wide receivers from his. You know, it was the most disappointing and probably lost people some leagues is Kyler Murray. In Herbert. Kyler wasn't great.
Starting point is 00:31:29 None of the quarterbacks were bad. None of them were great because no quarterbacks broke 30 points. A lot of them were around that 18, 19 range. But Kyler was the one who sticks out of just like, wasn't that good. Didn't look good. I test didn't look good fantasy. And the offense is just disappointing.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Tom Brady got the number, the QB one and two quarters. Andy Dalton was the QB2. Like that tells you a lot about the offense. A lot of fantasy entropy this week. A lot of wasted points. Totally. About Somage P. Ryan being like one of the three best
Starting point is 00:31:56 fantasy running backs. I mean, rostered in 5% of leagues. Speaking of wasted points, my loser is Levion Bell, man. Oh my God. It ended up not mattering because I played Alvin Kamar, but I started
Starting point is 00:32:07 Levion Bell over Brandon Cooks at the last second because of Danny Hyvetts' advice. I literally told him to do it. And I was like, I'm feeling cooks, and he's like, not even close. You got to start Bell. And I was like, oh yeah, oh yeah. It was like so confident. So Leveon had four point, four points. So way to go. He was out touched by Darrell Williams.
Starting point is 00:32:23 He was out snapped by Darrell Williams. He was out gained by Darrell Williams. Yeah. So, yeah, I feel like that's screwed a lot of people. I think it's rare that you have a waiver wire ad on championship weekend. That is a big deal. And Levion kind of was. He was a consensus top 20 ranked back amongst like all the experts.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And he just blew and the chiefs must not think he's good. And that killed a lot of people, I bet. Yeah, if you played Levion and you would have won your championship if you had not, you can blame me. My bad. Tweet Danny. Tweet me. Okay, my loser for the week, other than me for saying Levion,
Starting point is 00:32:59 was honestly just the elite receivers that were not Devante. I just thought, well, really just my loser is just like good teams. I think that's my loser the week, the good teams who played Camera. Specifically, like, Tyree Kale, who's, I mean, I think the number one receiver entering this week. DeAndre Hopkins, who's like the third best receiver, D.K. Metcalfe, who's like the fourth best receiver. Those three guys combined at less points than Jamison Crowder. Like, they just didn't really get you there. They weren't bad.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They had like nine points a piece or so, depending on your scoring. And it just, for how much they probably carried you there, they just weren't quite it. And I feel like those guys are the bones of a lot of really great teams. And there's other examples, too. Obviously, like Keenan Allen didn't even play this week. But I just think there's a lot of really good teams, especially a lot of people like Dalvin Cook, just obliterated by the Cameranus. And then your stars didn't really show up in a week where like the other guys, the Cameran.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's like the Camarra. It's like the Tangusca events in Russia where that meteor hit and knocked out all those trees. It's like the Camara event. What a hell of a reference. I was just reading about that recently. Oh, it's wild. So people believe it was a meteorite that exploded over like Siberia in Russia. Like very wild Russia.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Like no one lives there basically. If you actually are interested in this, the one I recommend there's a New Yorker article called, Have you heard of Tunguska in Russia? That's the one I recommend reading. It's unreal. This meteorite exploded over the ground. in Siberia. And flattened.
Starting point is 00:34:29 I don't know how many miles. What was it? Like a hundred square miles of trees? Wow. I mean, it's one of the more astonishing things you can search on Google images. There's pictures of it
Starting point is 00:34:37 and it looks like like volcano or a nuclear bomb had exploded and like flattened everything within, I don't know what it is. Like 50 miles at least. Oh, I see it. I see it. It looks like in like signs, you know, the cornfields.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Yes. Yeah, it does look like that. Anyway, that's Alvin Camara. That's what I keep thinking of what it's the camara event. It just flattened everyone in the square radius and all your good teams are the losers of the week because you were with the wrong plays at the wrong time. The Camara event.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I'm going to remember that. I like that. Camara event. All right. Have you heard of Alvin Camara? In the Superdove. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Important wrap up here for Week 16. Final week for the Burnbook. We played the Burnbook DFS lineup. Oh yeah. How did that go? Well, all right, so here's the thing. I slacked you guys saying because we agreed to swap out
Starting point is 00:35:33 I'm going to blame you. We agreed to swap out Daniel Jones for Russ Wilson and Locke in the thing. But then we had Jarvis on the lineup. So I slacked you guys Sunday morning. Like we got to swap out Jarvis in this lineup. Because Jarvis was on the COVID list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I forgot to change it. So we left Jarvis in the lineup because I did. So we got a zero from Jarvis. Which is appropriate. Really? I think we should throw ourselves. Hollywood. Hollywood Brown got to talk.
Starting point is 00:35:57 touchdown. Jonathan Taylor had a big game. Michael Gallup from nowhere, off the top rope with a huge day. Did we have Gallup in our lineup? No, but he was still a big day for the bird book. Oh, son of. Can I just say fuck Michael Gallup? Dude, Gallup is so good. He is good. Gallup has been legitimately good. The last four weeks, he's had four touchdowns. The previous 12 weeks he's had one. He's been like actually really good in basically the fantasy playoffs and just screw to everybody. It makes me so mad. It's, if that kind of broken his leg, this is my revisionist history. If that hadn't broken his leg, I feel like around week six, we would have been like he's the, he's the number one trade target for like ahead of the deadline.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, he's like maybe the best receiver on that team. And I fucking love both. Well, I don't love Amari, but I think C.D. Lamb is a future star. And Amari Cooper is just good. Like, he's straight up really. How are we already getting? No, this is what the off season's for where we completely talk ourselves into players who burned us. He's in the burn book.
Starting point is 00:36:50 The questions, are we adding anyone else to the burn book this week? It's our last chance to add people in the burn book. Before we do that, though, like, I felt so validated. High Fitz, I believe you put Jerry Judy in the Burnbook last week. I put Jerry Judy in the book. He had five drops this week. It's really concerning. He had, like, 13 targets and five catches or something?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah, it's concerning what's happening. That was, like, an issue for him in college a little bit, but my God, he's worse than Deontay Johnson at this point. The nice part is, like, drops aren't always a career killer because, like, guys will have the drops until they don't kind of do. deal like all of a sudden like you know someone I'll just not have drops anymore um but man that's brutal it was a brutal game for judy i'm not honestly sure there's anybody who deserves to get added to the burnbook after championship weekend do you guys have anybody it seems so unfair to
Starting point is 00:37:41 add someone after the camara event it's like everyone just when all the trees are knocked down it's hard to point to one trunk and been like you it's like what are you gonna do yeah i feel i feel like I feel like in the year of 2020 we could stand to give people the benefit of the doubt and I think perhaps as a Christmas gift to the fantasy community we don't burn anyone Okay, Kamara Sebeliot stays out of the book
Starting point is 00:38:04 Or was here to end the book? No, he never was. Yeah, so Elliot bought his trip out of the book. Well, the one is Levion. That's the question here. A one game book entry, that's impressive. I threw Clyde in there just for not playing that one game. I personally
Starting point is 00:38:20 was wrong. I listened to all four of the songs he put out when he was a free agent. All four rap songs. Oh, no. Maybe Tua. Twoa got benched. Yeah, what's up with that? No, this is like instant replay. If you have to watch the replay three times, it's not obvious enough to overturn.
Starting point is 00:38:37 If we have to like talk ourselves into a burn, it's not a burn. There has to be visceral emotion. There's no burns. All right. There we go. Merry Christmas, everyone. So wait. So wait, did we, so we lost money on our lineup because Jarvis Landry was out.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. All right. And we didn't get it in time. And by we, I mean, me. But we like that. See what I'm doing there? It's like I'm diverting the blame onto you guys so that I look less.
Starting point is 00:39:03 What's the word? Incompetent. It's a savvy move. Okay. Fantasy court time. All right. Yeah. So we actually got this email mere minutes before recording.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So I'm going to read it here. I was eating a bowl of cereal as I was reading this. I was like, this is great. We have to talk about this. What cereal we're eating? Honeybunches of oats With sliced up banana Wow
Starting point is 00:39:30 Oh, actually sounds good Yeah Yeah, it's good All right Thank you to everyone Who emailed me The yogurt suggestions By the way
Starting point is 00:39:36 Like a couple months ago It was great Thank you for that Did you got a lot of those? So many people At breakfast Things Yogurt takes
Starting point is 00:39:44 Also if anyone Has oatmeal Freshing up oatmeal Ringer Fantasy football At Gmail.com I'm into oatmeal now This is crowdsourcing Everything right here
Starting point is 00:39:52 Yeah I'm trying to Growth mindset I'm trying to Like improve my life here Man My yogurt take it's not all yogurt
Starting point is 00:39:57 are too small. I don't know why they're so small. Anyway. Fantasy court. This is from Christian. He says, hi guys, I need a ruling
Starting point is 00:40:05 from the highest fantasy court in the land. That is us, Christian. So you came to the right place. All right. He says, earlier in the season,
Starting point is 00:40:12 two teams complete would appear to be a landslide trade. Devante Adams for Cid Lamb and Terry McLorn. The guy that who had Adams,
Starting point is 00:40:19 will call Tony, was near the bottom of the league and had a little shot of competing for the year. While the guy who got Adams, we'll call a fucking
Starting point is 00:40:26 snake just needed that one extra piece to win the league. Sure enough, he won the league. Over the weekend, while Adams was scoring touchdown after touchdown, we grilled Tony, so that's the guy who traded away Adams, with Bill O'Brien and David Conjokes while lamenting how the season was over once the snake got Adams. After more grilling and most likely drinking occurred, Tony revealed the truth. The snake agreed to trade whoever he got in the fourth round of next year's fantasy draft for whoever Tony got in the 12th round of that fantasy draft with both guys telling the other one who to pick in the prospective round. So basically, like he's...
Starting point is 00:40:59 It was a hush, hush deal like, yo, I'll give you Adams, you give me McLaren and Cideland. But next year, your fourth round pick, I get to tell you who you pick and you'll trade him to me for my 12th, and you can pick my 12th. So he says now in my league there's no rule against this type of handshake deals. There's no rule against it. But we do have a rule that all parts of a trade must be detailed to the group. We made that rule after somebody agreed to trade, somebody to agree to a trade that involved D-Ding for a Bachelor Party weekend.
Starting point is 00:41:29 This is like the trade that my buddy's trade where he traded his car for Stephen Jackson. D-D-D-D-ing is such a low bar. It's like the Seinfeld when Jerry can't give away the car. So he says, The Snake argued since the future draft
Starting point is 00:41:45 considerations weren't happening until next year. He didn't have to include that detail. He then went on to explain he was going to introduce trading draft considerations after the season because he didn't want to cause big fight. So this guy, Christian, is basically asking, is this a legitimate win? This snake won the league because of this. No, there's an asterisk. It's really easy. I don't know the exact way they want to go about, like, stripping him of the title. I think at a bare minimum, I think the court should
Starting point is 00:42:10 recommend absolute merciless mocking and refusal to accept him as the championship. It's really simple. They hid the terms so they knew it was wrong. Like, there's no defense. It's like, they're like, oh, if the league already has a precedent that it's like, well, we present all terms of the trade and they hid the trade next year that means they didn't think it was legit and that this is a fair thing we're allowed to do. They're like, we have to not say this or everyone will reject
Starting point is 00:42:35 it. So clearly they knew what they were doing. So it's BS. I actually think that would be... My question is, would they have rejected it if they knew the rules? Because he's saying there's no... There's no rule against handshake deals. So it was just like they didn't disclose this part of the deal, which is not... It's against the rules or whatever, but
Starting point is 00:42:52 were they actually going to reject it if they knew it? I feel like if they weren't going to reject it, had they known the deals, the rules of the deal? There is a lot of populist sentiment that can really take over a league when a player as good as Devante is traded. And so Vito's fly around. I might be being a little too punitive here,
Starting point is 00:43:10 but I kind of think this guy's title doesn't count. I don't think it does either. It doesn't either. No, this guy's title doesn't count. Here's the thing. The title, it's like just fake. The real question that divides friendships is what you do with the money.
Starting point is 00:43:22 That's tough. Honestly, the right thing, and this is something everyone should consider, I think they should donate it to Devante Adams' charity of choice.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I'm not even going to lie. Because you start assigning it to like the second place shit. People get mad and like, even like a little bit of money, it like actually divides people for like years. Give the money.
Starting point is 00:43:39 No one deserves it. This is pathetic. You shouldn't have like lied to get Devante Adams. You should, the cover up is worse than the crime. The championship doesn't count. Give the money away.
Starting point is 00:43:48 This is a real stain on the league. He won't see that I, my guess is this snake guy, he probably won't agree to giving up all the money. So maybe, and that's a good idea, though, Hyattvitz. Maybe he keeps half and he gives the other half to charity, or he divides the second half of his winnings amongst the rest of the league as like a consolation,
Starting point is 00:44:07 something like that. But I don't think he deserves all the money. No way, this is bullshit. No, this is not legit. You can't, it's also like they had the opportunity to share it. And then they did it and they omitted it. Yeah, and it's like, that's the answer. I think this, this reminds me of like deflate gate,
Starting point is 00:44:22 where they should be right. I feel like the snake should be robbed of a future draft pick. He should be robbed of the fourth and the 12th. That's the answer. Give those picks to somebody else. Tony is in on this too, man. The fourth and the 12th, that's the answer here. The fourth and 12th is, Tony is also culpable.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Wait, what did he write the email? The other guy who shall be known is, what did he say? He said the one guy who traded Adams away, we'll call him Tony. Fucking snake. I think, so if I was, if I was making. making this unilaterally, I would say the championship stands because I don't think they're going to turn it over regardless. However, I do think because this was all like back channel bullshit, there should be some sort of punishment next year in terms of draft picks. I also do like the idea of giving to charity because it's sort of like whatever. But I wouldn't say you rob him of the championship. You just make you just make sure he has some sort of discipline next year. I don't know. There's an asterisk next to his championship. This is horseshit. Well, Bill Simmons is a long-standing theory that face masks and, like, certain pounties should be, like, at the discretion of the refs, like, five yards or 15 yards. I think the five-yard pounty here is, like, the guy's docked the fourth-round pick, the other guy's docked the 12th.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That's it. The 15-yard version is, as correct, like, not your title, and, like, some or all the money is, like, not yours. It depends what extreme the commissioner wants, because, you know, we're talking about a lot of work here. Now you've got to get money from someone. It's like, it's kind of annoying. So, like, it depends on the commissioner, but those are the two things I think the court, the court. suggests. Well, you know what's funny. The tough thing about being a commissioner, and D.K. and I were talking about this before we started is that him and I are the commissioner of our
Starting point is 00:46:00 big leagues. And like, it sucks because I make everybody pay me before the draft starts. Yeah. And it's $100. So I have $1,200, I guess $1,100 because I have $100 of my own, sitting in my bank account all season. You forget that it's part of that. It's all your money. Yeah. It's all your money. And you're like, oh, shit. You win the league, nothing happens. You just like go about your day. And if you get second, even if you get second, I did. I got a Venmo some guy, $800. And I'm like, I just lost $800. Losing to Camara this weekend,
Starting point is 00:46:28 not only did it ruin my, like, season, my dream season. Now I have to pay this guy $800 of my money. It's effectively my money now. Like, I've absorbed it into my bank account. The paper trail's gone. Any amount of money in your bank account after a few months
Starting point is 00:46:44 is now it's just your money now. That's the worst when the playoffs start. When the playoffs start, you're like, oh, fuck. I have to have like $1,000 available to pay these assholes. I was a bookie in high school, and I had a March Madness pool. Wait, hold on. What? Yeah, I was like the bookie in high school.
Starting point is 00:47:01 For how? Like everybody? Whoever wanted, I don't know. Whoever, you know. Where did you get your lines from? Well, it wasn't that. It was like March Madness pools and like, you know, Super Bowl by stuff like that. You were holding the money. But I, yeah, I lost the money. Like, I had, I had like $1,200 in March Madness, which is a lot of money in high school. Oh, you literally lost the cash? I couldn't find it. And it was like,
Starting point is 00:47:21 I mean, $1,200 is a, that was like the most, I mean. And then you looked over to your left at your MacBook Pro sitting on your bed. You're like, oh, yeah, that's where it went. I found it. Yeah, anyway, I lost it. No, I found it. But thank God. Anyways, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But important thing to come out of this conversation, highly recommend if you won your league, there is a great Twitter list. And we can tweet this out. But I highly recommend donating a certain portion of your winnings to, like, the players charities of your choice. I think it's a really nice thing. Like whatever percentage you want to do of 10%, 50%, some people do 100%.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's just nice. It's like all these players who help you. I think that a lot of them are very skeptical of fantasy football. They think of like, you just own me like a stock. It's really a weird relationship if you think about it. I think this is just a nice thing to do. And like I, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:08 so for example, if Devante Adam, or Alvin Camara won you your league, Alvin Camara is a great charity for children in New Orleans. It's just, we'll tweet that out. But I highly recommend it. It's, it's nice. Yeah, that's a great idea. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:48:20 All right. A few listener emails. I want to reiterate, thank you for emailing us. We don't always get a chance to get back to everybody, but we do read all of them. And thank you for all the funny emails that everyone sends. This one cracked me up from Brad and Seattle, a longtime listener, first time emailer. After following your advice all year, I didn't make the fantasy playoffs in my stupid league filled with idiots. While I obviously blame you for my colossal failure, I also enjoy your show so much that I still want to share a fun fact with you.
Starting point is 00:48:50 When you snap your fingers, it's not. not your fingers making the snapping sound, but your middle finger hitting the palm of your hand, which blew my mind. I knew this. Wait. What? Yeah, that's why put your hand over your palm when you snap.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Does snapping get to sound weird at a podcast? Probably. So it's one of those things where it changes your worldview. Cue everyone listening right now starts snapped. Wait, oh my God, it hits the little meat of your thumb. That's crazy. That little fleshy thumb. A little fleshy crab claw thing.
Starting point is 00:49:22 That's wild. Thank you, Brad, for that fact. Sorry that you lost in your stupid league, Philips, It's next year maybe you'll do better. Fun fact from Aaron. Aaron. And I put this one for a reason because I'll tell you. Fun fact, the character Danny Hyfitz on the Ringar Fantasy Football Podcast is actually
Starting point is 00:49:38 voiced by Broadway star and frozen voice actor Josh Gad. Or at least that's all I can hear when I listen to this podcast and I've never seen Hyphitz's face. Who knew Olaf was such a big football fan? This is not the first time I've heard this Hyphids. Really? Josh Gadd my doppelgagging? I mean, is Danny Hyphitz my fake personality?
Starting point is 00:49:59 There's a chance that Aaron said this to me on Twitter too, and then we just got it from two different locations, and I think it's two different people. But I'm going to choose to believe that I've heard from multiple people that you are Bearclaw from New Girl. Excuse me? First of all, I thought you were going to say Bear Jew from Inglorious Bastards, and I was like, I don't mind that one.
Starting point is 00:50:20 That one's cool. You've seen New Girl, right? Bear Claw's probably one of my favorite. It seemed like the first season. He, yeah. So anyways, go look up Josh Gad, listen to his voice. Apparently it's very high-fitz-esque. We made up a musical about woodland creatures.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Owls and squirrels and deer. Raccoon and caribou. Get out of here. You're not welcome. Get out of here. Get out of here. Cariboo, cariboo. When I first heard that I was dying, laughing.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Wow. Okay. Well, what was your doppelganger, energy fan, vampire? There you go. I'll take I'll take Josh Gad if you're the energy vampire. That's fine with me. And Craig's out of here. On Twitter, someone told me that or email that I sound like exactly like Colin Robinson for what we do in the shadow.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Oh my God. Devastated. Holy crap. I'm an energy vampire. There you go. All right. Well, to everyone who's been listening to this pod, this episode, this whole season, like we really appreciate it. We hope you won. If you did it, we hope you had a good time. or at least, you know, got really quickly to the acceptance and oblivion stage of your, of your, you know, acceptance of losing.
Starting point is 00:51:27 But honestly, we've had a great time this season. We have a really fun episode coming on Wednesday, so please stick around for that. I think we should, can we, let's just spoil it and say what we're doing. Oh, yeah. Okay, you explain. I don't know if schedules work. We're going to do on, so it's going to come out on Wednesday. It's going to be the 2020 fantasy rewatchables.
Starting point is 00:51:44 We're basically spinning the rewatchables template into the fantasy football season. We got the okay from Bill Simmons. Well, you've been producing the rewatchables for like three years. Right. I've been producing the rewatchables for a long time now. I talked to Bill. He has no problem with doing it with me, you know, stealing everything. Stealing the idea.
Starting point is 00:52:03 As Picasso once said, good artist copy, great artist steal. And so we're stealing it. And yeah, it'll be fun. It'll be a nice little wrap up of the fantasy season because who cares about week 17, honestly. And then wanted to talk about after that, we're sticking around for the playoffs. We are going to go to two episodes a week, Mondays and Friday. for the real-life playoffs. And we're going to be doing
Starting point is 00:52:24 a lot of daily fantasy stuff. We have a really fun new format that we will be introducing and I think it'll be fun. I think everybody will have a good time. We'll be doing those on Fridays and then we'll keep you in the loop for the off-season stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yeah, there'll be stuff we're talking about during the off-season that I think they'll interest people to draft, Dynasty stuff, all that. I highly, highly recommend you get into Dynasty this off-season, by the way. If you haven't started Dynasty, get in on some Dynasty startup.
Starting point is 00:52:52 up this off season because it's so much fun. Just a new sort of spin on fantasy. It gives you something to do in terms of the fantasy world during the off season. It's really, really fun. And I highly, highly recommend it. We may or may not be trying to start a ringer dynasty league, so we'll see. And here's the thing. This year sucked, but honestly, this podcast was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I enjoyed doing with you too. And honestly, everyone listening, it was just hearing emails or like any form of feedback. Just honestly, you've been listening, like, thank you. It's just awesome. We've had a great time doing it. And so, yeah, so I'm coming to you from, Josh Gad, Energy Vampire, and Billy Volack. This is the Ring of Fantasy Football Show.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Thank you, and Evan for listening. Thank you, Lauren. Oh, Lauren. Thank you, Post Malone. Fantasy rewatchables on Wednesday.

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