The Ringer NFL Show - Kyle Pitts Secret Clues, Roger Goodell Daps, and NFL Draft Best Bets

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

After months of drap prep and analysis, we put our money where our mouth is and break down our favorite bets of the NFL draft. We run through the most intriguing bets, including what will happen at the fourth pick, which order the receivers will be drafted in, when Kyle Pitts will be taken, whether a team will trade up for Justin Fields, who Trevor Lawrence will thank first, and more. Bets: No. 3 overall pick (4:23) Trey Lance draft position (10:41) Justin Fields draft position (17:14) Kyle Pitts draft position (24:17) DeVonta Smith draft position (26:56) Jaylen Waddle draft position (28:38) First four WRs drafted in order (29:17) Total WRs taken in Round 1 (33:47) Penei Sewell draft position (34:48) Total OLs drafted in Round 1 (38:03) First three RBs drafted in order (39:44) Last player left in greenroom (43:12) How players will greet the commissioner (46:30) First person Trevor Lawrence thanks (50:41) Who goes first: Kellen Mond or Kyle Trask (52:22) How many Alabama players will go in Round 1 (54:46) Kentucky Derby Odds (57:30) Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to have questions, though. Like, should I get it? Is it safe? Should I wait? It's okay to have questions about the vaccine. You can get the facts at getvaccineanswers.org so you can make an informed decision. Stick around. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by my co-host Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck. Guys, let's make some money on the draft. Woo. D.K. Big better. D.K. loves betting.

Oh, yeah. Gambler. Massive gambler. The next season of gamblers, narrative podcast by The Ringer, is actually about Danny Kelly's next place. That is true. Totally. Yeah, we're doing a whole season on just Danny Kelly. Dave Hill is excited. If you guys haven't picked up on it yet, that has been sarcasm this whole time. They were being sarcastic.

This will be a fun app because DK's not the biggest better in the world. Hyphus, do you like to bet? I like to bet. Yeah, no, I do. I feel very smart when I win, and I feel like, well, you know, it's fine. Like, the universe is random when I lose. It's really like a win-win. really lose, lose.

There's a whole psychological thing to that, yeah. We've been spending a ridiculous amount of time trying to figure out where these guys are going to go. And so now we're just a few days after the draft. Two days, I don't know, we're recording this Tuesday. Wow, two days from the draft. Let's just make some freaking money on this because there's money to be made kind of. All the odds are terrible, to be honest, but we're going to do it anyway. It's also kind of a good just proxy for what's going to happen.

So what we're going to do. We're going to give D.K. a thousand fake dollars. Although I suppose you could just make them real dollars if you want. But there are a thousand fake dollars. DK bucks. DK.K. Co.? DK. Bucks. Like Donkey Kong.

Is that a currency in the Mario world? I don't know. Anyway, we're going to give DK fake money. We're going to read a bunch of bets and we're going to make him put, like, money on stuff, even though he might not 100% understand how odds work. Yeah, DK.

You now know that minus means, minus means favorite plus means... Yes. I have a friend who told me to please read these things out loud, like, so I can enforce it in myself, like, what these things are. mean. So I'm going to, I'm going to try and actually learn these terms. I keep wanting to say negative 300. I want to just speak to everyone who does not intrinsically understand what,

you know, Penae-Soole minus 450 means, because I think that just the majority of people listening to this. I think that gambling terms are all really weird and dumb. Yeah. And that like, minus 450 can just very easily be explained as you have to put $4.50 down to make $1.00 of profit. Right. Just it's not a very intuitive way to put it. So it's okay. I mean, it's probably easier if you say you have to put $100, you have to put $450 down to make $100. I think, yeah, betting lines, betting lines are created off the basis of $100. Like, that's how they are listed. So when you see Tray Lance is plus $300 to go third, that means if you bet $100, you win $300.

Yep. So it's all based off $100. If somebody's plus $6.50, you mean you bet $100, you win $6.50. So that's kind of how it goes. Who knows if this episode is already confusing. it probably is. All right, let's just get into this. Okay, so let's just go through here.

Let's go through player props. First one up. We're getting these from Fandall, by the way, Fandall Sportsbook. Unless otherwise noted. We have some fun ones from elsewhere. Okay. First one up is just who will the nine,

what will the number three pick be from the Niners? Yeah. Mack Jones is the favorite at minus 340. So you have to put 340 fake Danny Kelly dollars to win 100 fake Danny Kelly dollars back. We'll have TBD and what you can spy with fake Danny Kelly dollars. Can we call them DKBucks? DKBucks? Yeah. Email us at

Ringafantasy Football at gmail.com if you have an idea for what you can spend DKBucson. Dan Coins? And anyway, Mack Jones is mine is 340. Trey Lance is plus 300. So $300. So $100 down would win you 300. 3 to 1 basically. Justin Fields is plus 650.

So 6.5 to 1. Kyle Pitts is plus 4,300. So Kyle Pitts is 43 to 1. Penesuil is 60 to 1. And Zach Wilson is 60 to 1. this has been all over the place like a week ago Justin Fields

was tied with Mac Jones they were both essentially a coin flip it was like 50 50 and then it started to lean Justin Fields was the favorite and now it's completely swung back and Mac Jones is now a favorite

that's because there was some reports on Monday I believe that said so Peter King wrote this I believe Ian Rappaport tweeted this basically they both said it's a two horse race it's Mac Jones versus Trail

Lance at this point. The 49ers went in thinking they're going to take Mac Jones when they made this trade. They're thinking, we're taking Mac Jones. And like the narrative or rumors or whatever is saying now that Tray Lance, they're considering Tray Lance. He's made a impact on them. And he's like more in the race than they thought he would be, I guess. The whole thing is just absurd to me. Like they should have made this decision before they made the trade. Yes, the absurdity is that there is a race. Like there shouldn't be a race right now. It should be they know who they're taking. Right. So maybe this is all just to create fun betting lines, but I look at this. We just glossed over this. Do you remember one week ago when we did this

podcast and I said the Niners didn't know who they were going to pick when they made the trade and you guys fucking laughed at me? And now we're like, do they know who they're going to take two days before? I'm laughing. High Fitz. I'm laughing at the 49ers through you. I'm not laughing at you. I think it's just laughing. Oh, is that to do I'm not laughing at you. I'm laughing at the idea that they did this without knowing who they're going to take. Like, that's borderline incompetence to me. We're laughing at Kyle Shanahan, and can I just say, guys... I feel like I was laughed at.

I feel like I was the one who's laughed at. But you deserve it. It was like translucent at best. You always deserve to be laughed at. Can I just say that, guys, we're laughing at Kyle Shanahan, but I just wanted to say, I hope that you three are alive come draft day. I hope that everybody in the Niners is alive, come draft day. I hope Kyle Shanahan's alive.

I hope everybody's alive, come draft day. Shanahan turned into a nihilist, which I kind of love. He was asked, so for the record, for people that don't understand that joke, he was asked the other day, if what was it? The question was, is Jimmy Garapolo going to be the starter? Or is he going to be on the roster? And he's like, buddy, I don't even know if any of us are going to be alive by the time the season rolls around. Like, we could all be fucking dust in the wind. I can't guarantee that anybody in the world will be alive Sunday.

So I can't guarantee who will be on our roster on Sunday. So that goes for all of us. D.K's like, wow, I should get Kyle Shannon's initials tattooed on me. He has been listening to the Ringer NFL show and the Ringer Fantasy Football Show because that is like, he's stealing my schick. We should have him come on and just talk about life and existence. Sponsored by Arby's. Anyways, so anyway, let's talk about these odds.

Best value bets. I think the best value is Justin Fields because I think it's in the realm of possibilities that he's still the pick. I think, you know, it's a contrarian. thing. Like he's out of the running according to reports. So just hammer that. It's plus $6.50. So you bet $100. You get $650

back. I like that. I think Tray Lance is still a solid bet because you know, there's a lot of people that are sort of convinced that Tray Lance is the guy right now. But what's changed? Why? Doesn't it just feel like it was Macdon? The 49ers minds?

No. Here's the thing about these lines. It feels like we just haven't talked about Lance for two weeks and now it's like, oh, he's a new thing to talk about that the Niners might take. Here's the thing about these lines. When it comes to setting a line for like a football game, Vegas is incredibly good at it. When it comes to setting the lines for these draft picks, they have no idea,

just like everyone else has no idea. They're betting based off of headlines and shit. And so the lines are all set. And insider information. Some, but these are all terrible values. So like in the absence of information, because they don't actually have the same information advantage they do for, like, football games.

all these odds are terrible. Like, just to be clear, if you wanted Mac Jones, I will say Mac Jones at minus 340, the window is kind of gone to be betting on Mac Jones because you could have gotten better odds. I think that really just what changed

is like a couple of reports. Like they were like, oh, they were going to do a pro day with Trey Lance. And then they're seeing what we're seeing. I don't think that there really is any magic here beyond the headlines that we saw about the Niners

are down to Mac Jones and Trey Lance. So I think Trey Lance at plus 300s, probably better than Fields at 650 because it would be shocking if it was Fields, but you're not getting shocking value here. So, I don't know. I'd rather put 50 bucks down on Trey Lance, 50 my DK bucks down in Trey Lance to try to make like, you know, 150 than 50 bucks in Mac Jones to make, I don't know, I can't do math. I think, I think DK's right. I think Fields is probably the best value if you had to pick. Yeah, easily. Odds aside, though, I think it's Mac Jones is the pick. Forget the betting for a second. I think it's Mac Jones. Do you guys agree?

D.K., do you think it's Mac Jones? Yeah. Wow. I go back and forth, but yeah. But that hesitation means I would bet on Trey Lance. What about you, Craig? I wouldn't bet. If I had to bet I'd bet on Justin Fields, but I'm not going to bet it.

I actually have Justin Fields that I bet like three weeks ago. I already bet. But that doesn't make any sense because if this happens 10 times, do you think that Trey Lance is the pick more than twice as often as Justin Fields? No. No, well, okay, then okay, your lot should make sense. I do. I think that Tray Lance is the pick before Justin Fields.

Anyway, while we're talking about Tray Lance here, let's talk about the odds for where Tray Lance goes. Yeah. So this is basically now a conversation about Tray Lance and Justin Fields and somehow Kyle Pitts. This blew my mind. Kyle Pitts, the tight end from Florida, went on NFL Network today. Today is Tuesday and we're speaking to Andrew Siciliano. And Andrew Sicilianna, who's wonderful, love Andrews Siciliano, asked him a really annoying question.

Yeah. Which was like, how do you feel about the Niners? What if the Niners took you with the third pick? And it's one of those like, holy shit, we need the draft to be here now. Like, I'm tired of this stuff. The content well is dry. The well is dry. We were out of water.

It was like just thirsting the content desert. And I don't know if I'm in the content desert seeing a mirage or what. But Kyle Pitts basically responded by saying, I think the first four picks will be quarterback. Can we play the clip, Craig? Would it surprise you? Because I know you've heard this. You're laughing. I know you've heard that there are some who think that the 49ers are just messing with us.

They have George Kittle, but they also have Jimmy Garoppolo. They don't need the quarterback right now. That Kyle, they went up to get you. Would it surprise you if you're the 49ers pick? I'll say it's half and half. It was surprising, but maybe it was definitely surprising. Because, you know, so long that's a lot of it. a lot of great quarterbacks in their draft.

I think the first four picks will be quarterbacks, but if I do get the chance to be drafted that third, that'll be, I don't even know, that'll be too crazy. I'm just, that'll be really exciting. I don't know what will happen.

I just think my heart just fall out my chest. Because you and George Kittle might be the best 12 personnel package anyone's ever put on the field. I can agree with sure now. So I need to know what you guys think about that clip because there's two possibilities to me. One, it is completely and utterly meaningless,

which feels likely. On the other hand, the fact that, like, unless Kyle Pitts just confused the Niners having the third pick and the fourth pick, it's not insane to think that Kyle Pitts has heard some inside information from his agent about a lack of interest from the Falcons at four and that the Falcons have indicated to the agent that they're going to take a quarterback, and that the agent relayed that to Kyle Pitts who no one thought to tell anyone. Right. And that now we've telegraphed

that the Falcons will either take or trade the pick to someone who will take a quarterback. Craig, am I insane? Before D.K.'s rational brain steps into this conversation, I'm all in on this meaning a lot. This is smoke and there's going to be fire. I immediately went and bet Kyle Pitts

over four and a half spots where he'd get drafted. I did too. I ran. I ran. I soon as I saw this, I was like, the lies are going to change. Well, and the reason why is because the question,

he answered the wrong question, which shows me that he was being honest. And, like, he actually was like, oh, yeah. Yes. Like, I, yes. If Siciano was like, what do you think is going to happen at the fourth pick? And he was like, I don't know, it's going to be tough. The fact that Siciano was asking a different question,

and in Kyle Pitts's answer, he happened to mention something else being like, oh, well, I think the first four picks are going to be quarterback. But if I went to the Niners, that'd be pretty cool. It's like, oh, my God, he accidentally just gave away something huge. Dude, it's so, I really, I really believe. If there's a quarterback of four, we will look back at this as like the

skeleton key to the entire week. And if Kyle Pitts goes to Atlanta, then I mean, I don't know, I'll feel really dumb for like two days and forget about it. But, D.K. Like, do you think this means anything or is this just we're just... I think it's possible.

So, Hyphitz, peak behind the career. High Fitz was freaking out when we talked about this and Slackie was like losing his shit. I think there's a chance. There's a slight chance. Like what you said, where the Falcons have been in contact with Kyle Pitts' people and are like, hey, we're considering him here, blah, blah, blah.

Because I know that, like, agents reach out to teams and try and get a bead on it because they want to manage expectations for their clients, right? And have an idea where their guys are going to go. There's a small chance the agent was, like, told by the Falcons that, hey, we're going to probably go with quarterback here. So that's why he said that. Maybe. There's a world in which that is a thing that happened.

But I just think he also might have just been like, He also did say he was like, you know, there's some good quarterbacks in this class, you know, and he was kind of just, it felt a little bit like he was just generalizing and sort of being humble. So who knows. Let's spin this back to Lance. Hold on, hold on. I'm looking up the agent who Kyle Pitts represents and I'm going to see if there's some connection here. Give you a second.

Okay. But, D.K., I want to ask you, so if a quarterback does go four and Kyle Pitts is correct. Yeah. Is it going to be Lance? Yes. That's what I think. So I think it's going to be right now, so if we were doing one, two, three, four, it'll be Lawrence, Wilson, Mac Jones, which I guess we're landing on. And then I think it's going to be the Falcons taking Trey Lance. Because what I've heard and what is sort of like the word on the street is the Falcons like Lance. And so that could be a turning point. If the 49ers don't take Lance, the Falcons could say, hey, we're going to go Lance instead of taking Pitts here. Pits will fall a teeny bit. Maybe it'll fall at five, six. seven who knows.

But yeah, I could see that being the fourth pick, which is why I like, which is why I don't really like either of these bets, so the over is plus 184, six and a half. And the under, which is favored, is minus 230, six and a half. So I think it's more likely he's more likely he's going to be

under, in my opinion. He's going to be the fourth pick. So I don't love either of these. So if you want to spin this into getting some value, what I would recommend is finding a site, I found it, you can find Mac Jones 3, Trey Lance, Lance, 4, Jamar Chase 5, and that paid off 7 to 1. So if you could find that, because it doesn't matter if Lance goes to the Falcons or if somebody trades into 4 and takes Lance, as long as he goes 4 and you can get Jones at 3, Lance at 4, Chase at 5 to Cincinnati,

that could be a 7-to-1 payoff. That might be the best way to kind of bet Trey Lance under 6 and half and get more value. I like that. I like that. Hi Fitz, what do you have? for us? I didn't discover what I was hoping to discover in my Kyle Pitts wormhole deep dive. So knock on in line in here, anything you guys just said, I hope it was entertaining. That's good. Let's move on to Fields, though. This is a really interesting one.

Fields' draft position line is eight and a half. His over is plus 160s, under is minus 198, which means people think it's going to go under, but DK, where are you landing? Yeah, so I'm going to lay this out. Adam Schefter said on Monday, on his podcast, that there's a 95 chance, a 95, a percent chance fields is going to be on board at six. So that means there's this three-team sequence where

multiple different things could happen. Basically, the dolphins are at six, the lions are at seven, and the Panthers are at eight. The dolphins, heavily rumored to be interested in Jalen Waddle. It feels unlikely they're going to take a quarterback. It feels unlikely fields is going to be that spot. So six, I think, is irrelevant.

Seven is where things get very interesting from the quarterback point of view. I don't really know what the lions are going to do. There's certainly a chance they take fields, but it seems more likely since they just traded for Goff that they will trade down. And there's rumors and reports out there that they're looking to trade down.

In fact, for the athletics Chris Burke this morning, multiple sources, and quote, multiple sources have told multiple people at the athletic that the Lions would like to trade back from number seven and have made that desire note. So they're putting out there. Much as that note, Albert Breyer said the Lions want to trade down more than any other team.

Okay, so there you go. Yeah, so they're looking to trade down. So what that means to me, is this is the spot where Justin Fields is going to get taken at seven. And I don't know what team it's going to be, but I think in my mind, that's why I think the under is going to hit. The under is like the odds are not great, whatever.

Like the favorite is the under. So I wouldn't bet on this, basically. But if he weren't going to go seven, then you have the Panthers at eight. Why do we know if it's fields? Like if you don't think that my, if you think my whole. could be Lance.

Conspiracy at the Falcons. What if Trey Lance goes at seven? And then Fields, you know, doesn't go to the Panthers at 8 and they don't trade and like Fields just falls. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's a chance.

This is what, yeah, like, there's definitely some people that think Fields is going to fall. In fact, our take God, Chris Sims had him at 32. Can we just take a moment for Chris Sims?

Take God. Dude, he's out of your take purging in the daylight. Unbelievable. Chris is unreal. I like that he got so much respect for him getting to 32 and be like, no, the bucks will do it. Yeah. Because he could have let him fall out of the first round.

I was like, no, no, no, no. The buccaneers. I didn't forget him. He's going to, he's going to replace Tom Brady. It's performance art at this point. It's just, you know what, respect. I was reading, so I was reading, the other thing I think, so I think it's going to be the Broncos. And the reason I would bet the under that he's going to be at seven.

Yeah, the Broncos are reported to have interest in. fields. The athletics, Nick Cosmiter, said that the Broncos would be willing to move up a few spots from nine. His hunch, he doesn't, he's not necessarily reporting this, but his hunch is they prefer fields to Lance. But for what it's worth, I've heard the opposite. So I don't really know. Like this whole thing, there's so many smoke screens out there. It's hard to know. So here's the thing about the top 10, and I think it's really important to remember, is that the top 10 is just littered with like a bunch of new groups of people running. these teams.

So, like, if you just look, like, it's usually at least you can look to pass drafts as an indication of, or like there's evidence of what they think and how they will run the team. But here's the thing. The Falcons are being run by a new group of people at four. The lions are being run by a new group of people at seven. The Panthers are being run by a new group of people at eight. And while John Elway kind of promoted himself to retirement, under him, the Broncos have a new GM at nine, which is just a lot of unknowns.

Yeah, it's a good point. For a very needy part of what's going to go down. All we know is the Panthers seem to want to move that down. The lions seem to want to move down. The Giants, Gettlement said out loud, they're trying to move down publicly. The Eagles will move up or down. They're just kind of polyamorous or whatever when it comes to trades. But like, we put all that together and what does it mean?

I kind of think that, again, if four teams are floating out there that they want to trade down, I feel like it means no one wants to trade up. that really is how I feel. Are you going to hammer the over then? Plus 160? Sims is. Sims put his mortgage on it. No. The odds in this bed are terrible. But, well, no, over.

No, yeah, you know what? Honestly, I would take the over here for, what is it, plus 160. Gun to my head, I think Justin Fields falls outside the top 10. At the end of the day, didn't we had Fields going after this in our mock draft yesterday on the Ringer NFL show? I really do. It's not how I feel about Justin Fields, but I'm, I do think he will not be the top 10 pick

if I have to pick. So I would bet on that, actually. Can I just say that I want the Lions to trade back so badly because I don't want any even minutely cool athlete to go to the Lions. Right. I don't want anyone going to the Lions.

Like any receiver quarterback. Give it an offensive lineman. I don't even want Pena Sewell going there. I want no one. I just couldn't. That's my thing about the Lions. That's actually this I feel, this is the one take I feel

strongly about that I am like reasonably certain I will be right about something I know nothing about which is again what do the lions want which no one knows however you have you just look at the people who are advising that team and you look at Dan Campbell the head coach and just the type of

people they've hired are all like old football men who are like grizzled and they want a record amount of former players and staff they just I am so positive that they will take a physical type of player whether it's an offensive lineman or a defender or a Michael Parsons linebacker, it would blow my mind

if he gave this speech about biting kneecaps and like taking hunks out of people, getting knocked down, taking another hunk out of him, like that speech in the other guys who was like, the tuna, we will go on land and we will get oxygen and eat more lion and go back and get more oxygen, but like it's kneecaps, if they start out and take what, Devante Smith, who weighs 165 pounds to start that era in Detroit, would blow my mind. That's the only thing I just don't see it. Yeah. So I think that the lines trade out if they can, but I really do think that that's where Sewell will go or Slater.

So I think that Justin Fields falls to eight. I don't think the Panthers are going to take a quarterback either. Sorry, there was a long rant. All right, so you like the over. Let's go to the receivers, the pass catcher's hill. Let's start with Kyle Pitts. His over under, so there's a caveat here. His overrunner on Fandil is four and a half.

But every other site, Bavada, my bookie, some of the more established, you know, like international betting sites, they have it at five and a half. Manduel might be able to get some value here if you don't think, if you think Lance or a quarterback is going at number four, DK, what do you like on the four and a half line? Yeah, I mean, this is a, it's a good line. Essentially even odds.

Yeah, yeah. It really just comes down to what the 49ers do and what the Falcons do, right? Like, if the 49ers take Lance, I think the Falcons take him. If the 49ers take Mack, I think the Falcons take Lance. And then you hit the over. So, wait, really? You think that the, whether Trey Lance is on the, the board or not depends like the falcons the board probably is tray lansson then pits that's how it's

sounding right now yeah i think that there's so like we so the i take the discussion this the pits the pits like argument is so interesting because you know they have the opportunity to pick a very talented guy that will help them right away you know give matt ryan a little bit more life the next couple seasons or whatever or they can take a what's probably a more long-term solution and and a quarterback and, you know, put him behind Matt Ryan for a year or two and then go from there. You're not going to be picking this high likely for a while or ever. So, like, use this opportunity to pick a quarterback. They're just so much more valuable than tight ends in general.

I don't know. End of the day, honestly, though, like the over, which is what we kind of decided earlier might be possible. It's just plus 110. Like, that's not great. The under minus 134. I'm probably, I'm just probably not going to be betting on this. This doesn't look juicy to me.

All right. Well, if you're not going to bet on that, what about the next one's Jamar Chase? So if he basically, if he falls, if he's taken in the first five picks, it's minus 160. And then if he falls past the fifth pick, it's plus 130.

So really, it's, do the Falcons or Bengals take Jamar Chase? Yeah. I think the word on the street is the Bengals love Chase, or at least that Mike Brown does, the owner. I think he's going to be the number five pick. So the under.

But there's a very strong chance. It's all, it's Pena Sewell. I'd say the better bet here is probably the over just because there's a, like, Penai Sewell is such a strong chance of being there. It's like 50-50 at this point in my mind. Do you think Burrow would be kind of pissed

if they didn't take Chase? No. You see the scar on his knee? There's a reason these odds are bad. It's because this one is not a surprise. You're not going to get good odds in something that generally everyone kind of thinks is going to happen. So Jamar Chase going to fit to the Bengals,

not good odds here. Devante Smith, if he falls, past the 11th pick, it's minus 122. And the 11th pick is the Giants. The Giants, yeah. So if he goes past the Giants, it's minus 122. If he is taken in the first 11 picks, so the Giants that are 11 earlier,

it's plus 100, so like even money. I think he's going to fall a little bit, so I think he's going to hit the over. I don't think the Giants are going to take him because basically everything you've convinced me, if it's just that's not like really their style. According to the report I saw that Joe Judge, the head coach, likes Devante Smith, but Gettelman ultimately is making the calls, right?

And he's just not going to pick 160-pound receiver in the first round. You just paid $80 million for Kenny Gulliday. Why do you need Devonte Smith? You have Slayton and Shepard and Ingram and Sequin? Like, that's the last thing you need in my mind. Here's the thing. Could they draft Dev Gettleman goes to his press conference? It says, highest-rated player on a board, were in love.

Did you watch him in college? This is the easiest devaluation of my life? Yes. Sure. However, I think it makes more sense if they grab Rishon Slater or a large human being or Michael Parsons or something. Not that this would make me happy to draft Michael Parsons, but they draft a big football player and they're like, look, big men let you compete.

If you ever heard Tom Cawthon speak? And he just like, that's what his entire ethos has been. Yeah. It just makes more sense to me. Yeah. I agree. Then drafting receiver in the first. It's just not get on in style, as you said, D.K.

Generally speaking, too, like there's seems to be a growing consistent. census that Smith falls a little bit compared to what draft Twitter and some of us think. So I think it'll fall past 11th. I think you hammer the over on that one. All right. Last one here, Jalen Waddle, the other Alabama receiver, this is about whether

he goes in the top 10 or not. If he goes in the top, well, it's even money actually either way. It's minus 110 for both. This is actually, isn't minus 105 what they do for the coin flips? This is basically the same thing. They don't know what's going to happen. It goes top 10 or not. It's minus 110 either way. So, D.K., gun to your head, even odds. Does Jailum's Waddle go in the top 10 or

Or yes or yes. Yes. I think he goes in the top 10. I think he goes before 10. This is actually really, this one I think is good odds. I think this one. Even money essentially.

Okay. Here's where we get. These are more fun. These are more fun. I like these. This is kind of like horse racing. Or like you can do like an exact box or whatever. You can bet on the exact order of how like some of these positions go D.K.

So you can bet on like any permutation you want of like Jamar Chase and then Jalen Waddle and then, you know, Devonti Smith and then whatever receiver. You can bet on who the first four receivers will be off the board in order. D.K., what is the order you think has the most value here of all these bets? Okay, so I'm going to start with the one that I think is most likely. Not necessarily most value. The most likely one in my mind is also the favorite. Chase, Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Devante Smith, and then Elijah Moore from Ole Miss.

And that is plus 250. I still think that's pretty good. I would bet that. Two and a half to one? Yeah. The second, the one that I love, I think that, that's, got a pretty strong chance of happening is chase wattle smith and then rashad bateman who goes to like say the uh the bears you know or at 20 or so um i think there's a very solid chance chase wattle smith

come off one two three and then bateman is the next guy off the board at to the bears or you know maybe a little bit later uh so that's plus 600 that's six to one that's six to one odds that's pretty good to me if you're if you're wanting to swap things up a little bit i don't like this one quite as much, but there's a small chance this happen. You switch up the first two, chase, or sorry, the first, the second two. You go chase one, Smith, two, and then Waddle, and then Bateman. That's plus 650. If you want to go big, here's a couple that I really like.

Chase one, Waddle two, Bateman three. He sneaks in front of Smith because Smith falls because he's skinny. Teams are worried about durability. Teams are worried about all that stuff, like all the precedent, lack of precedent, that. So basically you're betting that Smith might fall a little bit further than you think. That one's plus 25,000. So just to let everybody know, that is 250 to 1. Yeah. So 100 bucks will get you 25,000, right? Correct. So that one, that's juicy to me. No, no, no, $2,500. Yes, $100 net you $2,500. Actually, no, I think it's, no, $150 to $1. No, you're not getting

250 grand because that's not how betting works they're never going to offer you 250,000 a hundred dollar bet that would mean if you put down a thousand dollars you could own the fucking casino the line is 250 to one yeah it would be 25 grand if you bet a hundred dollars on this yes it would be hyfitz it's not too look at it's 25 thousand it's in the picture it's in the picture let me go to fucking phandal uh it is oh my god it's 25,000 You're right. Can we like, so let's, let me start this over and we'll do it. No, keep all that.

No, we're talking about. Should we convene and take a little break and put some money down on this? So that we convened at a later date? Like, wait, you're telling me that if Rashad Bateman, if we just go ahead of Waddle, and we each put $100 down in this that we would win $25,000? It's Bateman going in front of Smith is the third. Correct. Which I think isn't as wild as you might think.

Because Smith is so skinny, I think he could fall a little. It's possible. I don't think it's not. Like you can do this. All it takes is for teams to be like, eh, this guy's kind of skinny, I don't know, and you make 25 grand.

Here's another one. I mean, we're going to do this, right? The go big or go home part two is if you're sitting here thinking like, look, they're not going to take Bateman over Smith because of the skinny issues. Bateman also is skinny for the record. He's like 6 foot 190.

If you want a guy who's a little thicker who's also been getting first round hype, the odds this aren't going to happen. But Chase, Waddle, Cadarious Tony Smith is also plus 25,000. But the point is Chase and Waddle is like chalk. You're getting 250 to one odds on like one thing going crazy. Right. And it's like, yes, Devante Smith could go second among receivers and like blow it up.

But who cares? Like it's a pretty tremendous return on like one thing going weird. Usually you see this on like something that never. Usually you see this on the odds of the Super Bowl having like, three or four safeties in the same game. Like, you know what I mean? This isn't like, oh, Rashad Bateman wanted to head of Smith. That's all this is.

Yeah, it's like Brady catching two touchdowns in the Super Bowl is this odds, usually. Yeah, we're going to have to make this bet before this podcast. So I think these are fun as hell. These are fun as hell. All right. Let's keep rolling here. Sticking with receivers, though, I think another one, this is actually from my bookie. And I think this is an interesting discussion is the over under on receivers,

overall taken in the first round, kind of sticking with the same idea. The over under is four and a half. So basically, you know, do you think there's going to be four receivers taken in the first round or five or more? And I think, I don't know,

honestly, so like the favorite is over. Yes, that's minus 450. The heavy, heavy favorite is over. You'd have to spend $450 to win $100 if you wanted to take over four and a half. I think there's a pretty solid chance it's only four in the first round. Really?

That's pretty good odds. Plus 275 if you want to take under. You really think that? It's a deep class. So some teams might be like, look, we'll wait a little bit. And then the guys sort of on the borderline are small. That's the problem.

Like there's like a bunch of slot, you know, sub six foot guys. You got skinny guys. So basically the locks for the first round, which I think are Chase, Waddle, and Smith. Don't forget Rashad Bateman in our 250 to one bet. I would put probable that Bateman as a first rounder,

although it just really depends on what the teams think. And then possible, I would add, like, Elijah Moore, Cadarious Tony, and then, like, much less likely, Rondale Moore or Terrace Marshall. It sounds like Teres Marshall has a knee issue, so he's going to fall, which really bums me out because he was one of my favorite sleepers. But bottom line is, it would not surprise me whatsoever if it was Chase, Waddle Smith, and Bateman in the first round. And then, like, Elijah Moore was early second. If that's how you feel, then you should also be hitting the under on how many offensive players are drafted in the first round, and the number is 18.

If you're saying there won't even be five receivers, under 18 players at plus 110 is also a pretty good pair with that one. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, because there's only going to be maybe four quarterbacks, a handful of O lineman and like a running back, one tight end. Like, I think under 18 would be smart there. We should. Let's move right into offensive linemen. We've got Penae Sewell. His draft position line is five and a half.

Odds aren't terrible. if you want to take the over five and a half, it's minus 156. If you want to take the under five and a half, it's plus 124. Where do you think he's going, D.K.? If, well, I think, so in my final mock, I'm going to have him going, I'm going to have Chase going number five to the Bengals. So that means he falls a little bit. But I do think someone could take, someone, someone could trade up.

I still think. Who trades up for an O lineman? This bet is essentially saying, is he going to go five? And I think no. Has anyone ever traded up for an O lineman? Like in the top six picks? Yeah. I'm sure it's happened.

Okay. So the big rumor and the strongest rumor is that the chargers are going to trade up from 13 to like $6, 7, 7, 8, 9, somewhere in that range and take Sewell if he falls a little. Because Sewell is Justin Herbert's left tackle in college, blah, blah, blah, reunite them. So I got a question about how this works. So let's say like the charges want to do that. So do they already tell the teams? that are at the 7-8-9 spot that, hey, we're thinking about trading up? Or do they wait until the Bengals take chase and then offer it?

No, it's the other way around. It's the first thing you said. It's they'll have a deal in place probably negotiated this week. It's probably already in place. And they'll be like, maybe with the Lions. And they're like, if Pena Sewell, or they might not even tell them. They're like, hey, we have a player on our board that if they fall to you, we will make this trade with you.

They agree on the 90% of the parameters of the trade. And then sometimes they wouldn't even tell them who the play. is. And then they call when they're on the clock and they're like, is the player still there? And they're like, yes. And then they swapped. That's what the Bears and Niners did. The Bears and Niners agreed to a trade for the Trubisky trade four years ago. And the Niners were like, will you tell us who you're trading up for? The Bears like, no. And then it was Trubisky and all of them were shocked except like one Niners employee predicted it. But like, so like that's why I believe, again, not to be a conspiracy. That's why I kind of believe the Kyle Pitts thing

because it's like sometimes these deals are negotiated ahead. I had like a couple days in advance in the age of an airman. I'm all in on the Kyle Pist thing. All fucking in. While we're talking about offensive linemen, the Sewell odds, the actual betting on some Sewell kind of suck, but I'm curious, do you think about the offensive linemen round one bet? Because there's how many offensive linemen are drafted

in round one over under six and a half. So there's three that are like guaranteed. Like Sewell, Roshan Slater and Veritucker are like guaranteed to be top three. I think so. Christian Derisor of Virginia Tech two, but like are there going to be six or like seven or what?

This, yeah, so this is like a very similar discussion to the receivers one. I think the odds are, just like receivers, the odds are there's probably going to be more. But I think like the odds, it looks better if you bet the under on this, like six and a half. I could see six tackles pretty easily. It would be a little more surprising if there was more than that. So the six guys are Sewell Slater, Vera Tucker, Christian Derrissau, Tevin Jenkins. That's five. and then that's where you start getting a little iffy on guys.

So like Landon Dickerson Center, he has all these injury issues that have hampered him throughout his whole career. Maybe he doesn't go in the first round. Alex Leatherwood, I think he's got first round talent, but I've heard also that some teams don't like him quite as much as, like, you might think. Creed Humphrey, Eisenberg, Cosme, there's all these maybes in here. but like to me there's there's really only like five pretty pretty likely guys and then a handful of i guess less likely you'd say so i'm looking at five i'm looking at the over under is six and a half i would hit the under i mean under generally is a good rule for things like this and like super bowl prop bets because people always want to bet overs on everything and so the under like

the overs have terrible odds always uh let's all right let's get to running backs here so there's two running backs that are probably going to go in the first round or in the conversation. So there's Nagee Harris, the Alabama dude, who's over under on him is even, it's at 28. And then Travis E.N., which the over under is 32. Which of these do you like better, D.K? I think you're safer going E.T.N.

Yeah, because if you take the under of 32 and a half, it just means he's going to go in the first round. I actually kind of like that. I think E.N. is going to be the first running back drafted, so. So if you think that that's clearly the best odds, because he's actually a plus 104 and then over for ETN being basically if ETN's not a first round or it's minus 128 but not only that if you look at the order like the exact a bet that for the running backs being drafted they assume nausea Harris will be

the first guy going so if you want to bet ETN then Harris and then UNC's Giovante Williams that's actually three and a half to one that's actually a pretty good bet because that will probably I mean that's probably the order of running backs if ETN goes first, right? So you said ETN, Najee Harris, and then Giovante Williams? Yeah. So yes, I had this circled yesterday.

It was plus 650 yesterday, and now it's plus 340. So I was on to something yesterday. I should have put these bets down yesterday, in other words. Oh, my gosh. So this is funny. Yesterday, the ETN, Najee Harris,

Kenneth Gainwell, like the exact order, one, two, three at the running back spot was plus 550. Now it's plus 1,400. So that to me was like, that doesn't make any fucking sense. And so clearly they're altering this. But so yeah, I would say that one definitely makes the most sense to me. The ETN, Naji Harris, Giovanni Williams one, that looks like the most likely to happen to me.

What do you guys think? I kind of want to put your DK books here on ETN Harris and then. Javante, I think that's a pretty good bet. I think I would do that as well. But the problem is the odds get cut in half in 24 hours. TK, who do you think is going to take ETN? Right now, if I had to guess, I would say the dolphins at 24. Or the Jets, lurking at 23.

The Jets are an interesting one, too, yep. What would the Jets do if all the running backs are on the board? Do you think they would take first from the group? I think they, I think ETN. Outside Zone, get some speed up. element in their offense. I kind of feel like maybe it would be ETN too.

So let's keep this in mind. The Jets and then the Steelers. Yeah, because the ETN, Najee Williams, and the Javante Williams. This is like watching Picasso paint, Hyphix. We're just watching his mind work. I'm just trying to figure out

who would take a running back in the first round. I still feel like ETN is the best bet to go first. Even though I think Najee Harris is probably a better overall back, I just feel like the NFL is going to get enamored with that speed element.

the explosiveness. I think you're right. I think the teams really want explosiveness in the first round. It's tough to pick a non-explosive running back in the first round.

But speaking of explosive, let's blow some people's minds. Let's get to some really weird bets here, DK, while Picasso's painting. We're going to do like, you know,

I don't know, some 40 shit, cubism. All right. These are from sports betting dime. There are odds. You can bet on this.

The odds for who will be the last player left in the green room. Mm-hmm. So does this count day two? They're still in the green room on day two technically. Does that count? Basically, the guys who are attending the draft but will not be picked, who will be picked last?

So Trevor Lawrence is not attending the draft, so he's not even on this list. Caleb Farley. Yeah, I was going to say that. He's a cornerback with adjusted back surgery, back surgery won't be medically cleared until the summer is 11 to 1. That's a huge, dude, hammer that. Hammer that one. the reason being we've talked about it here before is he was like widely considered a top 10 talent in terms of his skill um all that stuff but he had back surgery like last month and he's had multiple

back surgeries now and everything you're hearing is it really affects his uh like his stock his standing things we've heard last few days especially i know chris mortensen was was tweeting about this the other day or this morning how some teams are just not getting a clear picture with the medical stuff. Like the medical reports have been like a cluster fuck this year, apparently. Even though they did do this like second, you know, like combine thing where they got a bunch of people to go and like get tested. Some of the guys were not doing all the tests. They opted out of the tests.

It wasn't as like rigid or stringent or whatever. So anyways, the bottom line is it's these guys could fall even further than you think based on the medical stuff because teams are, just basically like throw in their hands up like we don't have enough information here. So Caleb Farley, he's the third, he has the third, uh, like best odds or whatever. It's plus, so like the two, the two most, the two favored guys to be the last man standing are Christian Barmer from Alabama, Gregory Rousseau from Miami. I think those both make a lot of sense. Like both of those guys could fall into second round.

But bad odds. But you're not getting good odds. It's plus 125 plus 185. It jumps all the way up to plus 1100 for Farley, who has a very very very. strong chance of falling out of the first draft. Why is he, why is Caleb Farley going to the draft and he's just going to sit there all night after having back surgery a month ago? Because he's like the most talented.

He's the most talented of the cornerbacks. But like Trevor Lawrence is the most talented of the quarterbacks. Don't go. Stay at home. Like rest your back. Why are you at the draft? No, you got to prove. He's not going because you've got to prove you're healthy, dude.

It's not a big deal. Come on. 3D chess, 4D chess, whatever. I don't know. I only play 2D chess. Okay. Right, another, this is, this is the most important bet of the entire, like, podcast we're having. I barely understand this one, but it's commissioner greeting.

So over, under, among the, among the 13 players attending the draft, how will they greet the commissioner? Over unders. Will there be over or under? We're going to go through these one at a time. Five daps. Will there be over under three and a half hugs? Over under three fist bumps. over under one and a half elbow bumps,

no contact one and half, and then handshakes half. What are the lines? Handshakes are half? What are the lines here? The age of COVID, I think it's 50-50 for each. It's like minus 110. All right.

It's minus 110. Even money each. I have two strong thoughts. I think you should hammer the over on five dapps. Everybody dapps. Everyone daps. Everyone will dab. Let me ask a stupid old band question.

What's the difference between daps and fist bumps? is like up and down. No, DAP is when you like connect palms and bring it in and the other hand kind of goes around the shoulder. Or you could just kind of keep it

like that low hug? I don't know. Yeah, kind of. It's kind of like a bro hug or it's just like the hands the hands slide and close. Yeah. It's like how young people

shake. It's like you're not shaking each other's hand. Like oh, nice to meet you. The bro hug. The bro hug. Yeah. It's like oh,

and then the bump is like your outside knuckles like punch each someone else's outside knuckles. I've never had to explain this without a visual before. Well, now I'm thinking, is it a dapp? Is it not a dapp if you bring the other arm over? Is that a consider a hub then?

No, it's 100% a dapp. Although for the purpose of the scoring, I think that would be a dapp. And wow. You know what I mean? So you said if they dap up into the hug, you wouldn't get credit for both. Here's how big of a fucking nerds we are. I Google Daps. And there's a Wikipedia account or a page for giving for, it's giving

DAP. It's the Wikipedia page. Yeah, that's not. And there's a picture of two guys doing like the bro hug, like the beginning of the bro hug thing. Do you want me to read you? Do you want me to read you the definition of this? We're the fucking nerds.

Dap is a friendly gesture of greeting agreement solidarity between two people. I'm not even going to read this. Dude. Dude. You're reading the first two. Dude. You know what a DAP is D. Ging. Typically involves handshaking, often by hooking thumbs, pound hugging. Footh. Hucking thumbs.

That's not what it is at all. Chest of our fist bumping. We got to get this company to find dab. Dap. Dude, you know what a Dap is. We have DAP before. Yeah, but it's like, there's a lot of definitions

for it. Hooking thumbs is not part of it. It's like what they say about porn. Isn't it like you can't describe it, but you know what it is when you see it? Yes, exactly. That is exactly what is. Anyway, wait, wait, wait.

Didn't Schfter tweet something about Goodell is fully vaxed so he'll be hugging the players? And they're normal greetings. So that's the thing. Best bet on this is the over three and a half on the hugs. This is the easiest money you'll ever make in your life. Three and a half on the hugs. There will be more than three and a half hugs.

I would put not my life because it's very precious, but like I would put a substantial amount of money on this. I would put 600 DK bucks on over three and a half hugs. Hammer the under on no contact. No guy's going to go up there and just like immediately ignore Godel. like, yeah, bow, like... He kind of just, like, puts his hands up.

He's like, hey, I don't... Like, I'm not getting near you, pal. I don't think that's gonna happen. It all depends on how they delineate the difference between a hug and adapt. That is crucial. But doesn't matter. There will be three and a half hugs.

There have to be three and a half hugs. Oh, my God. I would be fucking blown away if they're not three and a half. And then the handshake, not a half. Bet the over on that, easily. A handshake?

Handshake is very polite. It's a polite thing. They're going to give handshakes. I feel like there's one It's gonna be at least one handshake Hammer the under on one and a half elbow bumps That's just not how The fuck is gonna elbow bump

That is the elbow bump is the least natural thing to do Like your brain immediately you go for the handshake You go for the hug no one's gonna elbow bump Roger Goodell No Just don't touch him It's the best moment of their life Like they're gonna hug the guy If they didn't want to like really have that much contact

They would just fist bump them No one's doing the elbow They wouldn't go to the draft If you're worried about no contact you wouldn't be there. Okay, wait, I want to get to this next one here. This is the first person Trevor Lawrence thinks when he speaks after he gets drafted. We got the odds of the favorite is his parents, family, slash wife.

It's a wide net. Number two is God plus 150. Then we have the Jags plus 1,300. And we have the coaches plus 1900. I kind of like Jags plus 1,300. Him being like, first off, I just want to thank the Jags for picking me and give me this opportunity. You once suggested people play Lil Jordan Humphrey in the fantasy play. playoffs and let me tell you something, this is the most wrong you have ever been about anything.

There is a 100% chance Trevor Lawrence will thank God first. Why isn't it the best odds then? Because these people who make the odds clearly don't know what they're doing. He's going to thank God. First I'd like to thank God. Like he will say that. I'm talking about value. He always says that and then he'll thank his family and then I'll think the Jaguars.

Like he will thank God first. Trevor Lawrence is a very religious dude. Yeah, that's probably right. Value wise though, I mean, you're getting 13 to 1. What's the value of God? Says Craig World. 13 to 1 shot that he thanks the team that has the hat that he just put on his head? I don't know.

Greg doesn't see value in God. What do you think of the value of God? Plus 150. That's a good question. I kind of like the Jaguars one. Thank you. Oh my God. It's 13 to 1 for him to thank the team that just...

I can 100% see him going. First of all, I'd love to thank the Jaguars organization for putting faith in me. I want to thank God. Want to thank my wife? A hundred percent. I could see it going that way. Dude. You're crazy.

God, man. 13 to one for him to just thank the Jags? I don't know. 13's my lucky number, so that's very tempting. All right, we got a fun one here with some quarterbacks nobody cares about. We have, who goes first? Kellen Mond or Kyle Trask? It's essentially even odds.

D.K., who do you think goes first? So I think I lean Trask, and we were talking about this yesterday. And again, my intuition was correct yesterday. I should have put some fucking bets down. Because the odds, like, lowered or whatever you want to call it, you know, for Trask. Trask is gaining ground. To me, so Trask is more accurate, I would say, and that's an important thing. He put up ridiculous numbers this year.

Some team is going to fall in love with that. Yeah, do you think he has a better draft reputation? Like, is he more drafty? What the fuck does that mean? I would say so because I would say he's more as a, I think he's more of a ready-made backup than Kelland-Mond would be. Kellyn Mondes is a developed... I can't think you just answer that question. What does drafty mean?

I'll tell you what drafty means. I'll tell you what drafty means. Devonte Smith is not drafty. Jalen Waddle is drafty. Yeah. Henry Ruggs was drafty. He's asking me what NFL teams are going to think. You're asking me what NFL teams, like, you know, regardless of whether they should think this or not.

So the deal with Mond is he's like got good tools. He's athletic. You know, he has like the potential to be, I think, developed into a good quarterback. but as I see it right now, Trask is better right now. And so if a team is looking in the second round to take a guy who's at bottom, going to be, you know, bottom line going to be a backup, good backup. I think it'll be Trask. And he has, I guess, like a better chance in my mind to develop into a starter than Kelman does.

So he's more drafty. I saw, so a couple of notes I saw, like I was taking notes on this yesterday. I was like, per Daniel Jeremiah, the Patriots have been doing their homework on Trask. So if they don't get a quarterback in the first round, I could see the Patriots going with this guy in the second round. Per of the athletics, Ben Standig, Washington officials have spent considerable time conversing with Trask. So that's another option for them, probably second round.

And then as of last week, I saw odd somewhere else where Trask was the clear favorite to be one of three guys going first round. So whether it was Trask, Davis Mills, or Kellyn Monde, Trask had by far the best odds going on the first round of these guys. This was just last week, so I don't know what's changed since then, but I still would say Trask is easily the pick here.

Similar note, this is my favorite prop every year. Over under five and a half Alabama players taken in the first round. Yeah. So... Let's do this. Let's do it. I mean, so... So Mac Jones is a lock. Devante Smith is a lock. Jalen Waddle's a lock. That's three.

Christian Bar more defensive tackle. Is a lock? No, I'm saying these are the other potential Alabama players. Christian Barmore, Alex Leatherwood. Who else? Oh, Patrick Certaine is a lock. Oh, yeah, right.

So there's four locks. Four locks, yeah. And then you're asking, will Najee Harris go first round? Will Christian Barmore go first round? Alex Leatherwood go first round? I feel like it's, I hit the over, I feel like. Yeah, it's over. So no, no, no, I think it's the under, and here's why.

One, it's the most obvious bet for the casual beters coming into the draft to bet. Oh, over in Alabama players. They set that artificially high so you lose, number one. Number two, to take this through one by one. Landon Dickerson, I would be surprised because he has two huge ankle injuries and two huge knee injuries in college, and this is the most uncertain medicals teams I've ever had. I'd be surprised if he goes. So he's out to me.

Yeah, but he's a maybe. I feel like he's a maybe. Leatherwood's a guard. actually I guess Leatherwood could go in the fur frame Well he was their tackle Some team might see him as a tackle Yeah he could he could play tackle

So it's really it's there's four locks And there's are two other guys gonna go And it's really is it Naji Harrison Alex Leatherwood Unless you believe Landon Nickerson Yeah When you have a four When you have four guys that are like a lock lock I guess maybe you could say Mac Jones isn't a lock

I think he is But he's well here's the Here's the actually interesting question The flip side of what I just said But the injury thing is It's kind of like When all the other this uncertainty, do you just buy the name brand?

And teams are just going to get the Alabama players, because at the other day, like, they're Alabama players. You're like, DK, if Mack Jones didn't go third, when would he go? That's the question. I still think he would go in the first round. I think the Patriots probably would take him. Washington might take him. The Chicago might take him.

Yeah, he would go in the first round. I feel like Mac Jones is a lock. I think there will be an Aaron Rogers, like, slide forever this fifth quarterback is, though. I really do believe that. Oh, my gosh. So you're, you're, you're siding with Chris Sims here. You think, you think Fields is going to go 30 second overall to the Buccaneers. That's what you're saying.

Take God. I respect that take more than I initially let on. I think that it's not. Rogers is a little tough because Rogers could have gone first and then went 24th or whatever. But like, that's not going to happen here. But I do think Justin Fields or whoever, or Lance or whoever is like the fifth guy, I really think there's four musical chairs here for quarterbacks and the other one falls. All right.

I have, all right, this is the last one. this is very important to me. This is the last bet here. I've listed the Kentucky Derby odds. The Kentucky Derby is on Saturday. It's been completely drowned out. Huge tradition of my family, betting a Kentucky Derby.

So I want you guys to, I'm going to read the Derby field, and I want you guys to pick a horse here. So there's essential... You have to read the whole... Why can we just pick a horse and then give a little reason why we like... Because horse names are hilarious.

There's like a 30 of them. It's 20. It's 20. Anyway, I'll just give you the one that's going to fine great the one that's going to win is medina spirit the odds are 15 to 1 and here's why i don't care about medina spirit i don't know anything with the horse i'm betting on jockeys okay that's how people who really know shit do this and i'm making that up but john velasquez is like one of the best jockeys

of all time he's won this kunducky derby three times in like the last decade 15 to 1 to root for like the best jockey unbelievable also bob baffert the best trainer this is easy 15 to 1 medina Spirit. Also, the other tidbit I'll throw out from my grandmother, Emma, is always bet on the gray horse. That's the other. I have one note about your bet there. Medina Spirit is 9 to 1. See, the odds are already going down. Look at that. See, that is trending. You got to hop in the trade before it's like the over-lomerator. You lost a lot of value there. You lost a lot of value. Who says I didn't get it at 15 to 1? I'm taking, I'm taking O. Bezos at plus 2,500 because it sounds like Jeff Bezos, and he runs the world, so I feel like the horse will win.

It's an interesting name. Spanish for kisses. Bezos is, yeah, but then the O would indicate that it's an Irish Spanish horse, I guess. Yeah, I actually. Obesos? Yeah, I obey. I'm taking Obezos. Amazon, Obezos.

I'm going with fucking Hot Rod Charlie. Yeah. I like the cut of his jib or her. No one took Midnight Bourbon or also soup and sandwich, which is 33 to 1. Soup and sandwich is my second pick. I really like that. Soup and sandwich. And there's also keep me in mind at 50 to 1.

That one's great. Dynamic 1 is my backup. Hidden Stash, 66 to 1. Keep me in mind. No spaces is a really good name. Keep me in mind. Okay. Keep us in mind.

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thank you DK of course the man himself our first overall pick thank you Lord Lord! Thank you Ricky Martin. I thought you were going to do

what's the band playing at the draft? I forgot. Is it Kings of Leon? Are they playing at the Macumas? I do not know. Hmm.

That's cool. Ricky Martin, D.K., I like it. What's your favorite Ricky Martin song? I don't know. Live in Lhita Loka. Nice. That's a good one. She bangs?

That's a good one. That should feel horse name? She bangs. All right. We'll see you guys next week.