The Ringer NFL Show - Kyler’s Fantasy MVP Run, and Is Tua Already a Fantasy Starter? Plus, Week 9 Winners, Waivers, and Burns.

Episode Date: November 10, 2020

We lead the show with the explosion by Kyler Murray and other young fantasy QB superstars. We later get into our winners from the week, including the new elite group of young WRs. Then we add to The Ringer fantasy burn book, give Hollywood Brown a new nickname, and offer up our top waiver adds after Week 9. Headlines: Kyler Murray, Cardinals (1:39) Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins (8:49) Josh Allen, Bills (11:29) Winners: Dalvin Cook, Vikings (19:32) Young Elite WRs (22:20) Travis Kelce, Chiefs (25:36) Fantasy Burn Book: Marquise Brown, Ravens (29:00) Waiver Adds (36:00) Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On today's episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, we talk about Kyler Murray and the young quarterbacks who are crushing it. We also put Hollywood Brown in the Burnbook. He's Bakersfield Brown now. And we discuss all the waiver ads you want, plus players on the Bears. Stick around. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show.

I'm Danny Heifitz here with Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. D.K., how are you doing? I'm doing excellent. How are you, Danny? I feel weightless, or rather like a weight has been lifted. Craig, how are you? I'm great. It's a crisp Monday morning here in Southern California.

Feeling good. Feeling great. Let's just go right into this. Who won the week for you, Craig? Joey Covers. Craig, the Bengals were on Byde. How did Burrow win the week? I'm not talking about that, Joey B.

I'm talking about a different Joey B. Joey Biden, baby. Joey Covers. Our man started at minus 180. Got all the way down to like plus 450 Tuesday night, turned it right around, covered the spread like we knew he would. Oh yeah, the vetting market on Tuesday night was incredible. It was a roller coaster.

I should have pumped all my money in there on Joey B when he was at like plus 425. Yeah. Yeah, if you got in on that, you're like on an island, like a fantasy island. Good reference. For those of that, don't get that. That's the sex shop next to the four seasons total landscaping. I'm hoping that their sales explode about three or 400% this week. Speaking of exploding, there was some young gun,

quarterbacks this week that just absolutely jumped off the page. Yes. What a week. What a week. I want to start with Kyler Murray. I mean, that guy, number one, he is this year's version of Lamar Jackson. Remember, I think in the summer we talked about this, like, is there anybody that could be a Lamar Jackson-type league winner? I think it's Kyler Murray. Like, the things that he's doing, the pace that he's setting, especially as a rusher, is just incredible. just to give you some context based on what happened last year. I saw this stat for Ian Hartett's from PFF. Lamar Jackson's 2019 rushing line,

176 carries, 1,06 yards, and seven touchdowns. Murray, this year, is on pace. 152 carries, 1,086 yards, and 16 touchdowns on the ground. I don't know if he'll reach that, but that's just the kind of production that you're getting from, from Kyler Murray on the ground.

Like, he's like averaging double-digit points on the ground every week. Right. So he's only played eight games this year, too. And Patrick Mahomes is the number two quarterback. He's played nine. Kyle's got a full game lead on the guy who's behind him. Well, no, we kept talking all season about how Russ was on historic pace and Josh Allen's

on historic pace. Kyler Murray is now ahead of them. Kyle Murray is the most fantasy points through eight games, period, ever. Well, it seems to be like every four weeks. Like the first four weeks, it was like, oh my God, Josh Allen. And then it was like the next four weeks was like, oh, my God, Russ. And now it seems to be the next four weeks will be like, oh, my God, it's Kyler. And I think part of it, to DK, you could talk about this better than me.

but one of the reasons is Kyler's just a completely different runner than Lamar. The Ravens do all the stuff with where Lamar is like an integral focus part of the rushing attack and design runs. And obviously Kyler, they do that too. Like they do options and stuff. But Murray also is just a different kind of scrambler where he's gaining huge chunk plays in open space. I mean, obviously they do options and stuff. But I mean, why is Kyler on pace for twice as many touchdowns as Lamar had last year? I mean, it is.

He's an incredible scrambler. And that's the thing is like when he takes off, it's like a blink of an eye. And that's why teams, and it's a big reason why he's been, it's all related. It's all connected, right? Like, teams are mush rushing him a lot, trying to keep him in the pocket, trying to keep him from escaping. Therefore, his like pressure rate is one of the lowest in the NFL, if not the lowest. I haven't looked at it over the last couple weeks, but he's one of the lowest pressured quarterbacks in the NFL in part because of that. They spread out.

and teams just want to keep him contained, but it doesn't really work. He's able to hit the gas and go. I was talking to former ringer editor, Ryan O'Handlin the other day, and we were talking about how Kyler Murray runs, and he sent me this tweet where it was like a Spanish language announcer,

announcing like a soccer game, I don't know the context of anything, but like this guy makes a run from like the defense all the way to the other side of the field. He just starts going, br br-br-br! Downshifting, like, and I was like, oh my God, that is like, I'm just, I can never watch Kyler Murray run without thinking of that. Yours was pretty good.

I know, you did do that pretty well. You know, when watching the difference between them run, Lamar feels like a running back when he takes off. Like, the way he can, like, take hits and the way he weaves through tacklers, Kyler, to me, always feels like he's a receiver getting a reverse and just has this, like, massive head start of speed, and it's just weaving through people up the sideline. it's like a completely different look. Kind of like Tyreek. He's like, yeah. Well, I just think he's so much smaller than everyone on the defense that he always reminds me as like a sophomore in high school who's just on the varsity.

He's starting for varsity just because he's so little. But the play he had against Kyle Van Noy this week and this dolphin, and I want to get to Tua too because Tua was great. But when they did that option on that, I think it was fourth and one, right? Yeah, speed option to the right. We make football so complicated. It's not that hard. There's 11 people in each side and there's a space between them. And the entirety of this sport is about controlling the gap between the people.

Like, that's it. And Kyle Van Nuoy, for the linebacker, is exactly where he needs to be. Like, he is in the gap. And by the excess of nose of football, plays over. He tackles Kyle and Murray. It's over. And the Kyler just does the jab out, cut in and turns Van Nooy, who was like a three-time Super Bowl champion starting lineback for a Belich to dust, just crinkles him like a leaf.

You step on. and just it almost reminds me of Kyrie Irving in a way the way that Kyler can just kind of create space where it's not supposed to be there. Yeah, it's like he breaks people's ankles like four or five times a game just because they don't know which way he's going to go. I just think it's so interesting

and Danny listening to you talk about that like that exact play is why the option game is never going to go away. It's because no matter what you do, the defender's wrong. And I just remember, I'm just thinking back to like legitimate ultimately 2012, 2013, when a bunch of people are talking about how they're going to, like,

I remember Tomlin got quoted for saying, we're going to eliminate the option game or whatever, we're going to see how long people want to have their quarterbacks get hit. And it's like, man, the quarterbacks coming out of the college game are just too good, you know, like Lamar, Kyler. They're just like, there's a never-ending, like, guys are just getting so good at that option game in the college, and then coming in NFL, it's working. Herbert got crushed on one play, but got that safe. same thing on fourth and one. They rent speed option. He took a hit, but I mean...

Is Kyler your guys is number one QB for the rest of the season, or would you have Russ or Mahomes? Man, I said... Like, you asked me this two weeks ago, I think, and I said Russ. But I think I might go with Kyler just because of the floor that he brings as a rusher is incredible. It's legitimately better than what Lamar was doing his MVP year last year. So in terms of the fantasy production from the rushing. So, yeah, I would probably go with Kyler. I saw something interesting on PFF about Kyler Murray's passing. And it's actually not what I would have thought. I think because he's a mobile quarterback,

people would assume that when he scrambles out, he's a good passer when he moves. Because I know he's been up and down as a pastor this year. And I think whether it's just like the stereotype of rushing quarterbacks or not, but I think people assume that in the pocket they're not as good and out of the pocket they're better. Kyler's the exact opposite.

He's like one of the best pastors in the league inside the pocket and one of the worst outside the pocket. Yet you would think you'd want him outside the pocket because he's so elusive as a runner. Lamar was actually the same way last year. Lamar last year, I mean, when he broke the rushing record for a quarterback and everything, Lamar was the highest rated quarterback in the pocket by EPA per play, which is like the best quarterback stat.

And Lamar was number one. So that's interesting. That's the case with Kyler as well. We're inside the pocket. They're better than outside when throwing. A lot of that has to do, I think, with when you get outside the pocket, the structure of the play breaks down and it's much more random. So like the quarterback, instead of reading, going through his one, two, three read

and knowing exactly where his receivers are going to be and in general knowing where the defense should be and all that. All that goes out the window when you get outside the pocket and then they kind of have to improvise. So generally speaking about. I guess that's true. Yeah. Out of structure plays are just more random.

So that might be part of why. But I mean, he's dangerous outside the pocket too, I think. Like, you know, he's made plenty of plays. So Kyler was great in this game. Tua was also great in this game.

We got to talk about Tua because Dika, you love Tua. We all love Tua. I mean, yeah. He looked kind of bad against the Rams who have a great defense. comes it against Arizona looks unreal

I mean he looked like he looked like I had hoped and envisioned that he would look in the NFL he made a couple of really beautiful down the field passes like Hafeitz you said his downfield pass is just beautiful

like the way it comes off his hand just bounces off his hand the other thing that I thought was just really apparent is he looked more confident I don't know if that's like you know that's a very untangible thing but to me he just looked more dialed in

he looked a little tentative and that'll happen when you got Aaron Donald in your face for half the game. But yeah, he just looked more comfortable and confident. He kind of got his mojo. And I think we saw that. He escaped a couple of plays, like had a couple of Houdini escapes and, you know, scrambled for like 35 yards. And so I think it was really promising, you know, add in really huge games from Josh Allen.

There's just like right now the NFL's young quarterback group is so exciting. Justin Herbert, Burrow. you know, Lamar still, like, Lamar is totally flying under the radar too this year because he's struggled relative to his MVP campaign last year, but he's still really exciting. I mean, the NFL is just in really good hands at the quarterback position.

And by extension, like fantasy football is in such, like the future is so bright for so many teams, and that obviously translates to like big time points of the fantasy positions too, so it's exciting. So I wanted to ask you guys about, so if you look at the top 12 quarterbacks, right now in total points, around the 1112 areas like Teddy Bridgewater,

Carson Wentz. That's 11 and 12 kind of surprisingly. Do you think Tua has already played himself until like maybe you would start him over Carson Wend's territory where he could now be the starter

on maybe the fantasy team in your league who has the worst quarterback. Would you swap him for Tua? Ooh, that's tough. I don't think I would quite yet, especially considering Preston Williams got hurt in this last game.

We don't exactly know how long he's going to be out. I think you're going to see a lot of variation like it's going to be high high variation scores from two of this this year like he'll have like 20 20 or something last week and then next week you might have eight and then you know what I mean like I think they're going to still ease him into the offense Miami's next four games are the chargers the Broncos the Bengals or sorry the Jets and then the Bengals I would definitely start him against the Jets and the Bengals yeah so I think you could do a lot worse I'd have more confidence in him than you know a lot of guys so Let me put it that way. And then what about Josh Allen, D.K., can you give us a quick breakdown on that Seattle Buffalo game?

My lord. That was like freaking, did you guys watch that game at all? I did quite a bit. Yeah, he had guys open downfield every freaking play, I swear. The Seahawks defense was completely out of sorts. I thought everybody was all happy that Dunlap was back. Jamal Adams was back. I mean, that was the idea, but the defense just, man, it was really bad.

they, so, you know, like, there's a lot to this game. Like, the CX defense is terrible. Their past rush is terrible. So they ended up blitzing. No, that's not terrible. It's like the worst of all time. Terrible doesn't even. It's literally the most yards ever, pass yards per game ever, by a lot.

So is Josh Allen Houdiniing us? Like, is this, should we not take this game seriously? Or should we have it, take it with a grain of salt? John Brown was back for the first time in a while. That clearly helped him. Well, on that note, I think that this, so Pete Carroll after the game was like, I thought we were going to, they were going to run the ball. We had a good play.

for the bill's run defense and that sounds like all right well p carroll you should have figured it out but the bills really did abandon the running game the bill this is from mike sando at the athletic he wrote the he does something called the cook index which is kind of funny it's like you take the first 28 minutes of the first half of games to figure out what a team's game plan was because after that's first 28 minutes it's all about game script and whether the score and stuff but he isolates the first 28 minutes to figure how much they're passing running etc and the bills executed this is from Mike Sando. The bill's executed 24 pass plays with just one run in the first

28 minutes for an astounding 96% pass rate. That figure ranks number one out of 10,472 offensive NFL team games since the year 2000. That's insane. It was the past heaviest game plan ever in the 21st century NFL, which probably means ever in NFL,

history, I don't think that's going to happen every week. Do you know what that tells me? The bills are a well-coached team. Yes, exactly. They looked at the worst past defense ever. They're like, fuck it. Yeah, in the fantasy world, I think the biggest thing that pisses fantasy players off is like illogical coaching decisions.

And like that is the, that is great. I mean, why would they stop throwing? They had guys wide open. Like, not only were guys catching the ball wide open, but it seemed like on every third play, they were running for, like, like 30 yards after the catch. Like no Seahawks even in the screen. It was ridiculous how bad the Seahawks defense was yesterday.

Why are the Seahawks defense so bad? I get they don't have a pass rush and they don't have great depth. That is like a few teams have that problem. Is it just also like Pete Carroll kind of has the stubbornness, the same he was stubbornly sticking to the running game? Are they also sticking to what worked with like the Legion of Boom? And now they have bad players instead of great players. And they're like, how can you be this bad?

I don't know. Well, there's no real simple. explanation to it. Their pass rush is bad and their secondary talent is bad. But like just for instance yesterday, the Seahawks came in with like an opposite

game plan of what they should have. Number one, they prepared all week apparently for to stop the bill's run game. Pete Carroll's like, yeah, we had a really good plan to stop the run game. Can you only prepare for one style of offense? No, but number two,

they blitzed him and played cover, they played man to man and blitzed him on like 45% of their snaps this week. And the book, like the blueprint on Josh Allen is not to blitz and not play man-to-man coverage. He's absolutely lit up man-to-man coverage this

season all year. Historically, going back to last year, he's been bad against the man, but like this year he's just been tearing it up. That probably has a lot to do with the fact that Stefan Diggs just obliterates everybody in routes and stuff. But so essentially the Seahawks came in with the exact wrong

game plan it would appear. And I mean, it showed up on the scoreboard. like they got their asses like blown out in the first half. It was not a game after that. Okay, so D.K., I want you to rank for the rest of the season. Russ, Josh Allen,

Kyler, and Justin Herbert. Herbert shouldn't be there. Maybe. I would probably say Kyler, Russ, Alan, Herbert. And the only reason I'm sticking with Russ is because there's still going to be games every week where they have to be in shootouts

every single week because they're defense. I agree. I'd rather have Russ over Kyler for that reason. really yeah I mean it's close it's definitely close the one thing that makes me a little bit worried about Russ and this is like a bigger picture thing is he's now had seven turnovers in the last three games he had four against the card or he had four against the bills

on Sunday he had three against the Cardinals two weeks before and my thought and worry is that like Pete Carroll is absolutely allergic he abhors turnovers it's like the worst thing you could absolutely do anywhere and they're going to turn off the whole Russ cook let Russ cook thing and like rain him in and that's my word. The thing is it's not like they have a ton of running backs to not let him cook with. I mean they have Travis Homer.

It's never stopped them before though. I know. That's true. If the lesson Pete Carroll takes from this game is that they should run more and not that they should pass more, that would be hilarious. I mean, he came into the game planning to stop the run and then they did the exact opposite what do you? I mean like, yeah, like logical coaching, man.

I don't have any faith in my life. Craig, you produced Pete's podcast. Maybe you just like send along some info from. I'll shoot him a taxi football show. Yeah. You're like, hey. Okay. I'm just going to go through the top scores of the week at each position here.

QB1 was Kyler Murray. QB2 is Josh Allen. QB3 was Patty Mahomes. QB4 is Drew Locke. I just had to shut up. Is Drew Luck good? No. No.

No, but he did lead his team in rushing, I think, in this game. Drew Luck is frisky. I'm just going to say it. He's kind of frisky. I mean, in the games, since he came back from his injury, he played the Chiefs and the Snow, so that doesn't really matter. And in the last two games, he's had like 250 and two or three touchdowns. He had 300 yesterday.

He's like kind of frisky. I like his demeanor. You know, Drew Locke reminds me of Succession, the TV show, because everyone was like, oh, this is really good. And I didn't see it. And I was like, I bet I can just ignore this until it goes away. You can't. You can't ignore Succession until it goes away.

Well, I was wrong about Succession, but I think I'm right about Drew Locke. Which is something. I think I can ignore him. It'll go away. It will never start again in the NFL. I'll never have to acknowledge. Like, he's just, there's no way. I want him to be a thing, Craig.

I really do. No, he's, I think he's... I'm dubious. He's an exciting player, and I admit that there are moments when I watch him, I think he's all right. But if you sort any statistical category in the NFL, basically,

it's like the bottom two players are Dwayne Askins and Drew Locke, almost without exception, except if like a Bears quarterback gets in there. Off-brand Josh Allen? No. No. Okay.

Okay. I don't know. Running back, The top running backs this week was Dalvin Cook was number one. Christian McCaffrey was number two. James Robinson was number three. And I have to shout out that the difference

between number three James Robinson and like the RB20 was like six points and capsulated the entire list of like the next 17 people. Bizarre running back week. Receiver wasn't that much normal either. Richie James Jr. is the number one receiver this week. Whatever. What team is he on?

49ers. You know, He played Thursday night, you know, remember that game? Oh, yeah, that's right. Thursday was a wall. There was a lifetime ago, you guys. Remember Thursday? Certainly was.

End of an error. That was an, like a life age. Speaking of Mike Sando from the athletic, he noted that Jerry Rice had like six games in his career with 184 yards, and Richie James Jr. just hit that on like Thursday night and everyone was like, yeah, well, sure, whatever. Anyway, Tyree Kill is the number two receiver. Devont Adams is number three. Travis Kelsey, who's the number one tight end?

Jimmy Graham is the number two tight end. What year is it? Irv Smith was the number three tight end. And then the Saints was their top defense. Ravens second best defense. Titans was number three. DK. Other than Joey covers and all these young QBs

who won the week for you. I'm going to go with Dalvin Cook, who looks just like a world beater right now. I mean, and actually I was going to ask you this question, it's related to the quarterback thing. Like, is there any other non-quarterback player that you'd rather have,

well, even including quarterbacks? Is there any player you'd rather not have than Dalvin Cook right now. I think the only one that I think is close is Devonte Adams. Yeah. I think it's three people. It's Adams, Camara, and Cook. He looks legitimately like the league winner this year.

I mean, he had, so he had 225 scrimmage yards and two touchdowns and back-to-back games, which is only the third time that's happened per NFL research. Deuce McAllister in 2003 did it. And then Jim Brown back to 1963. or the only other running backs in NFL history to do that. So it's pretty insane. Remember when you guys got, you made fun of me because I thought that our Fandul

best ball lineup started in week eight. And I had Galvin Cook and he just decided to do it again. Yeah, that. Karma, I guess. So he has 80, this is in half TVR. He had 85.8 fantasy points over the last two weeks, which is easily the most of any skill player. So for context, remember when Camero was just,

just tearing it up in like winning weeks for people in the beginning of the year. In weeks one and two, Camara had 72.1 points combined. Cook is, Cook had 85.8 in last few games. He's absolutely gone off. So yeah, I think like in terms of the running back position, he is the clear-cut RB1 the rest of the year.

And it's probably not really close. Like Camara is still very good, but like with Michael Thomas coming back, he's going to eat into some of his targets. And I just don't think it's going to be the same with Camara. If you think that the rest of, rest of the season kind of plays its course. Do you think Dalvin Cook is a top two fantasy pick next year?

That's a good question. Yeah, could be. Him and maybe McCaffrey. Jefferson and Adam Thielen just drop off the map. Are you saying that they're just going to be like this the rest of the season? Or Cook is never going to lose and luster? They didn't drop off the map and play. That's how the Vikings want to play, though.

So by nature, we're talking about Thielen and Jefferson, like, they have to be on the bubble. I mean, Thielen, you're going to have to play. But is Jefferson, if this is the ideal Vikings game script, Jefferson's not startable. that's the problem. But luckily, the game script that the Vikings want to play, they don't get too a lot because they're always losing. Well, that's all I'm asking about Cook here. It's like, we have to make a, we have to make a decision. Yeah, I mean, at least he has a little bit of a floor because he can like put up some receiving stats as well. I think it's probably him and

Camer and McCaffrey at the top three. D.K., you can make the bold claim that Dalvin Cook will not continue to put it 80 points every two weeks if you want to stick there, Jefferson, look at some breathing room. All right. Yeah. All right. So I think that's a good winner, D.K., at least probably the correct one, other than Joey covers. Craig, who's your winner for this week? Mine is the new class of elite wide receivers in fantasy football.

So in my mind, there's officially a new group of the wide receivers that I'm the most scared to face in a fantasy matchup when I see you on the other side. You hate to see it. God, damn it. Oh, like you don't want to see the person. You're like, God damn it.

This guy's, like, his projection is 14, but he's definitely going to have 28. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, I know exactly what you mean. Last year and the last two years, I think this was the group. It was like Julio, DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas,

like Mike Evans, Odell, Devante Adams, Tyree Kill. Those are the guys, you saw them and you were like, fuck. I know I'm going to get killed. Like the projections wrong. Right. Like, hopefully they get hurt in the first quarter. Yeah, like, God, can he cramp up today? Damn.

There's nothing worse than when like the first drive of the game. It's just like Aaron Rogers just churns down the field. There was a 20-yard touchdown of Devante, and there's like eight minutes left in the first, and you're like, oh, my God. He already has 11. So I think there's a new group now. They didn't start two guys.

They started two guys that were like hurt and they're still going to beat you because they have Dev. Yeah, maybe it should be called the receiver that scores enough points for your entire lineup of receivers. But the new group, I think, is officially Devante Adams and Tyree Kill Still.

But now I think it's D.K. Metcalfe, A.J. Brown, Tyler Lockett, and it was Calvin Ridley before they got hurt. If you look back at Yahoo's projections of D.K. Metcalf this year. It took until week eight for them to project more than 15 points for D.K. Metcalfe, which he did. And he had more than 17 in four of his first five games. And they still would not do it. It was like 14.2, 13.8. And he was just killing people. And it's the same way with

AJ Brown. They have yet to project AJ Brown for over 13 points, even though he has gone over that in four or five games since being back. He has a touchdown in every single game since he's been back. And D.K. Metcalf has had over 100 yards or a touchdown in literally every game. of the season but one. It's just, there's a new class of wide receivers that we have to take seriously. I love this.

I would quibble a little bit with Tyler Lockett. I think he, he's an interesting case. The guy who's 53 points two weeks ago? Yeah, but I mean, look at the other games. He's had like,

those, the wide receiver five. He's had two big, huge games this year. But that's what I mean. He's in this class where you're afraid. When you see Tyler Lockett, you're like,

there's a chance where he could literally, erupt. And when you look at psychologically speaking. There's like, exactly. There's no ceiling. When I see Julio Jones now, I don't think, oh God, he could go 12 for 160 and

three. And I think that for Tyler Lockett. That makes sense. I hate facing Metcalf. We need a better name for this. If someone has a good name for this, please email ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. Because we did name for this type of thing. The fantasy boogeyman.

No, because no one knows what the boogeyman is. That's one of those terms that's been handed down like three generations. but like, I've never heard of a boogie. I don't know what that even supposed to mean. The fantasy Thanos. We could do a little better than that. Rigor Fantasy Football at gmail.com. That is the better.

Look, I'm workshop. Give me some fete. This is a live workshop. Hi, Fitz. Who won your week? I think people who drafted Travis Kelsey because I would actually throw Travis Kelsey into this group of receivers.

I think the only tight end in this group is Travis Kelsey because holy crap. Remember 2018 when like Travis Kelsey broke the tight end record for receiving yards. And then, like, George Kittle broke it again, like a little later. But Kelsey was just like a monster, had like 10 touchdowns and all that stuff. He's on pace for more fantasy points than he was in 2018.

He's absolutely ridiculous. I mean, he's an example to me of, like, we just need to get rid of the term tight end for him because he's just, he is one of the best wide receivers in the NFL. He's just like, he's a cheat code. But, I mean, look at his games. He said, I mean, this is season, 17 points, 24, 15. 10, 25, 22, 6, 25, 26.

Like, he's just absolutely nuts. And considering Kittle got hurt, Earth's dropped off the face of the Earth. Andrews is somewhere below the Earth. Darren Waller's fine. Like, there is such a chasm between where Travis Kelsey's at the season and every other tight end.

If you actually, I mean... I can put that chasm into numbers for you. Travis Kelsey has 139 fantasy points, 139. Second place, 86. That's ridiculous. Daron Waller. He's like doubling every other tight end.

Like the running, the logic of getting one of those top tight ends is that it's like having an extra roster spot eventually. That really is the case this season. You have an extra starting spot if you're putting Travis Kelsey in. That's how it feels. Craig said in August that like Travis Kelsey was the guy that he never drafts and then after the draft and for the rest of the season he immediately regrets not driving Travis Kelsey. I've been thinking about that ever since you said it.

And it's so true. Yeah. I'm just going to do it. I know it goes against like tight-end analytics or whatever. I'm just going to do it. Who has Travis Kelsey of their team that's like, oh, I wish I didn't have Travis Kelsey on my team. No, someone asks if you'll trade Travis Kelsey and you're like, no, no, I'm not getting rid of him. Because you can't even quantify it. It's just anyway.

Okay. Those are the winners? Yeah. Let's get to the burners. The Adam Gase Memorial Burn book. To refresh everyone's memories, the people we've burned so far, Adam Gase, we should probably just do it again for old times just to make sure the thing's dead. uh, Daniel Jones, Jack Doyle, A.J. Green, Scotty Miller, Moali Cox, and the city of Indianapolis, plus T.J. Burtt and all of their tight ends. T. Y. Hilton, a lot of Colts on

here. And Michael Gallup. Jesus. It's just Colts and Cowboys. They're like most of these burn, most of these burns are living up. Like they're holding true. If you like put these on a map, like it's just Indianapolis, Cincinnati and like Adam Gase and like Michael Gallup, realize all this is. It's like so constant. concentrated. Anyway, we said last week we would not burn Marquis Brown or Jonathan Taylor, but they were like, we were like, you know, firing a lighter, lighter which is older than the match. We had it close. We put them on burn notice. Remember High Fitz? You, you, you love to know. I love that show. So what are, what are we, what are we thinking this week for? I mean,

Hollywood, Hollywood's going in the book. It's done. It's done. We said, I said last week, you know, I like, freaking double, tripled quadruly down on him for like all five. season and I'm tired of it. I'm tired of getting burned. He's going in there. Three catches. Hollywood Brown or like the Hollywood as a place? Because Hollywood as a place is also just as overrated. True. Markies Brown is dead to us. Have you guys ever seen the movie Heat? On the rewatch rolls, they always joke about the line where De Niro's. He's like, there's a dead man on the other line of his phone. And that's how we feel about Marquis Brown. He's just dead. It's sad. It's sad because I want to, I want him to be good. I mean, I love him as a player. And I, I, And on any other team, I feel like he would be really good.

But this team just can't pass right now. They're just not very, you know, effective. Oh, and the other guy that honestly could almost be in here is Mark Andrews. Yes. Like, Craig said something amazing in our Slack during the games on Sunday. He was like, what's the difference between Mark Andrews and Jordan Aiken's at this point? And I was like, mind blown. You want to know something crazy?

Mark Andrews has had more than four fantasy points twice. this year. God. Four. Are you serious? Okay, so here's my question. Here's, like, I feel like, you know, I have to ask some hard questions right now. I'm sorry, three times. Three times he hasn't had more than four fantasy points. If we're burning Marquise Brown, if we're burning Marquise Brown, we're burning Mark Andrews. At what point do we just burn Lamar Jackson. That's what I'm saying. Brushing floor, though, is what saves him. I'm burning Lamar as a person who gets other people fantasy points. He's the embers. It's not Marcus Brown's fault. I see. Okay. we're not going to burn Lamar

because in part I think Mallory Rubin would fire us trying to do the math it took me like a solid three seconds to figure out what you said there but yes I understand I would be worried

for a job security so we're not going to do it because I don't think Marquis Brown is just like bad now I just think it's just not working you can argue

the whole Ravens offense is in the burn book this year not working okay yeah what about Jonathan Taylor who

had the whole fumble thing where he fumbled and then got benched. It's always something. Frank Reich was like, oh, I wish we could have got more touches. And it's like, yeah, it was a whole thing with like the running back coach was unhappy. We don't know. Are we putting Jonathan Taylor in the burn book or what, guys? You know, I was originally going to say yes.

I think I need another week. I just need one more week. Just one more. I'm like, I can't quite quit him. He had a touchdown to, like, if he didn't have a touchdown, I think I'd be like, absolutely. But they were playing the Ravens. He fumbled. next week they're playing the Titans

you know I want one more Jordan Wilkins had 11 carries to Jonathan Taylor 6 Taylor also played fewer snaps than Wilkins and Heinz but I think he got benched after the fumble the week before that he had an ankle

I think we should burn him but I'm going to enable your bad behavior Craig for at least one more week I like to see it I like to see Craig just stringing this out for as long as possible it's kind of fun it's like what I did with Brown my brown thing goes back to last year

I'm fine. Oh, I remember. Yeah, I know you remember, Danny. You remind me as often as possible. I'm actually impressed with your restraint during this whole podcast. Hyvith has an alert on his phone like a reminder set every morning.

It's text, D.K., about Marquise Brown. Yeah. Hollywood. God damn it. All right. We're moving on. Should he change his name from Hollywood Brown to like Bakersfield Brown?

Is that an L.A. joke? Because I don't get it. I don't know if there's neighborhoods. in L.A. very well. Baker'sfield's not in L.A. It's just like the most random, boring city in the middle of California. Okay.

Let's make this the poll for the week. What random city should we rename Markees Brown's nickname after? Because he's not Hollywood anymore, whether it's L.A. Hollywood or Florida Hollywood. He's not Hollywood. What is the random city

he should be from now? Shitty. Shitty advice. How about Van Nise? Just like the Valley. Is that where they Fall the Porn in the 80s? We could do

Bakersfield, Van Nuys. I mean, do we want to go random California? Stockton. If only Kevin Clark was here to do the random Florida cities. Oh yeah, he would go crazy.

All right, one of the options will be a random Florida city we got from Kevin Clark. Okay, sure. Van Nuys. Bakersfield. Bakersfield.

Like Modesto? I don't. I like Stockton. Stockton. Stockton, Brown. Okay. That's good, actually. All right, one of us will text Kevin will get the fourth, this Florida city.

All right, but that's perfect. So yeah, check the poll on your Spotify app. Scroll down below the episode title and you should see it. Please vote. We really want everyone to be voting at these. So, you know, this is very important research we're conducting here. All right. Let's move on.

Bakersfield. Let's go to the waiver wire. By the way, I feel like we should say, is not named after Hollywood, California. He's named after Hollywood, Florida. So none of this actually makes that much sense. Okay, but name another town in Florida. If you're going to name yourself Hollywood Brown,

then most people are going to think it's Hollywood. Like, I'm sorry. Let me tell you something, D.K., I did not know that. I thought it was after the... I just wanted to say that. That's like, I'm Rome, Highfitz. From, you know, Rome, New York. Like, I want to...

Look, look, I just wanted to preempt all the Twitter ads that we were going to get there. Oh, you're right. Thank you for saving us. Okay, that was the smart. My Monday evening is now saved. All right, let's get to the injuries from this week. There were kind of a lot.

Matthew Stafford, in addition to the, you know, dozens of, dozens of NFL people who had coronavirus. Matthew Stafford suffered a concussion. He was cleared from protocol after the game, but he left the game. Kyle Allen suffered a bad ankle injury. He's probably out for the season for Washington. That's an understatement. That was horrifying.

He's definitely out for the season. I don't even want to get. get into the that was very grotesque I did not watch it Alex Smith for placing Kyle Allen after that moment was quite the gamut of emotions

at the end of quite an emotional week that's all I'm gonna say there I just a lot a lot of feelings all right speaking which receiver Mike Williams almost got the game winning touchdown and then dropped it and then suffered and I'm not sure if it was a neck injury but he walked off the field

so not sure if his status monitor that yeah Preston Williams for the Dolphins had a foot injury also not totally clear the severity of that at the moment. Leviska-Chanal for the Jaguars had a hamstring injury. Christian McCaffrey was unreal in his return and then had a shoulder injury that seems more likely than not to keep him out of week 10.

Obviously, if you have Mike Davis, you're going to want to play Mike Davis if McSrieff's out. And then David Johnson had a concussion for the Texans. So he's in concussion protocol. David Montgomery for the Bears is in concussion protocol. Justin Jackson for the Chargers seemed to hurt his. knee on the first play of the game. So that's wild. And then tight-in for the Broncos titans,

Noah Phant had an ankle injury. He hobbled off very early in that game. And then I cannot pronounce his backup. Albert. Albert, O. A cooibunum, I believe, is how you say it. Alberto O also to knee injury. And then Jack Dewell, who's in the burn book,

he's in concussion protocol. So that's quite a bit of injuries. Fan came back and played. But I think he's just going to have this ankle injury for the whole year until he misses more time. He's just, yeah, he just might be able to goose, thank you. Okay. Can I just get this out of the way and say right now that my David Montgomery prediction is already, it's done. It's over. My, my prediction, my bold

prediction from Wednesday's show that he would be at RV1, it's over. I'm already calling it. I'm calling it. I'm backtracking. I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not going to, You said that. The Bears were like, oh, yeah, by the way, we have two positive coronavirus tests on our Our entire offensive line has come up. Yeah, is out for the game. Arlington Hambright, not to the rescue. Already inefficient running back wildly inefficient.

Yeah. So if you have David Montgomery, D.K., and you need some help for week 10. There we go. Good, good one. Good segue. Let's go with Duke Johnson of the Texans. We'll see what happens with David Johnson coming out. Here we go.

It's time. Duke Johnson, the greatest PFF running back who's ever lived. We'll see if he pans out this week. Yeah. Spoiler alert. Probably not. Well, let's see here. In the game, after taking over for David Johnson,

he had 16 carries, 41 yards, and a touchdown, adding four catches for 32 yards. So 13 and a half, half BVR points. Not terrible. A couple other options for you. Jady McKissick from Washington, who had 14 targets in this game. I mean, we're in Alex Smith's offense now.

He was the fourth high score. and running back of the week. Depends if you do PPR or half PPR, but he was, I mean, top five. So do you remember, yeah, do you remember when Alex Smith was playing with Chris Thompson for a short spell there and relied on him very heavily out of the backfield?

I could see this type of situation happening with McKissick. And for some reason, they don't see Antonio Gibson as like a third down back. In fact, I saw, I think Rich Riber said today that Gibson has not played one snap on third down or something like that. It's like one or two of this whole year.

So he's just not in their plans on third downs at this point. He's an early down guy. Maybe it's a pass protection thing. Who knows? I do believe that's what it is. Pass pro. He's not a pass pro yet. He's a pass amateur.

Hi Fitz, I think your chances to do any sort of lapse on Antonio Gibson have passed. Yeah, he had another good game last year. You are correct, though. I think his pass pro is keeping him off the field on third downs. But that's good for McKissick, who is only rostered in 24% of Yahoo Leagues. He actually out snapped Gibson last week, or this on Sunday, 45 to 25. Alex Smith, notorious checkdown machine.

I guess we're assuming Smith is going to be the starter, which is not 100%, because it just looks like Washington has sort of given up on Haskins and vice versa. Like, Haskins, I think, is not, I don't know if he even wants to play at this point. I think he wants to just move on and start a new. So we'll see what happens. but I think if Smith is the starter there, that could be very good for McKissick. How do you feel about Wayne Galman for the Giants?

Because the thing that's been impressive to me the last couple weeks, ever since that Bucks game on Monday night, the Giants' offensive line looks good, or at least a lot better than it should be on paper. Andrew Thomas, their left tackle, top pick in the draft, was one of the worst,

maybe the worst tackle through the first half of the year. But the whole line's just playing better. They're running better. It's from when, I mean, unfortunately, when Sequel was playing, it was just an absolute disaster. But if Devante Freeman is out again this week,

I actually think Wayne Galman's kind of a solid play because the team's just rolling. Like if Devante Freeman's back, it's a little muddled. But do you like Galman? I mean, yeah. Again, the Giants backfield isn't necessarily something I'd be targeting, but Galman, the last three weeks, has had double-digit points in half BBR.

10 carries 34 yards in a touchdown week 7, 12, 44, 1, week 8, 14, 68 in a touchdown on Sunday. 14.2 half BBR points. So he has, I mean, he's been buoyed by the touchdowns.

But, I mean, if you're desperate, you could do worse than I think the Gaulman and, you know, especially if,

Devante Freeman is out. The other guy that's kind of interesting is Kalin Blage, yet another player to escape the yoke of Adam Gase and turn out to be

an actually good player. Kailin Blage looked pretty good, which was shocking to me because he's sort of become like a punchline of you know super duper athletic guy that just isn't good at football but I don't know I mean he looked pretty decent in this game

he was a big Matthew Barry guy didn't Matthew Barry love Kailin Belash yeah I think he felt about him though you feel about Jonathan Taylor just like just couldn't let go even after it was clear this just supports my theory that all most running backs are just pretty good the reason people like Belage coming out of college was he's like absurdly athletic you know But isn't Jonathan Taylor absurdly the athletic? Yes, yes, he is.

It turns out that you need to have some sort of vision in everything to play football, Craig. But I will say, it helps to not be on Adam Gase's team. But to be clear, we're talking about the Chargers' fifth string running back here. We're talking about Austin Echler, who's hurt, Justin Jackson, who got hurt, Joshua Kelly, who's been bypassed for some reason, Tremaine Pope, who got into concussion protocol to land on Kalin Belash. What are the odds that Kalin Belage remains a consistent freaking player for this team? I don't know, probably pretty low.

I totally forgot about Troy Wayne Pope breakout game last week, too. Man, they just been cycling through these guys. Regardless, Belage 15 carries 69 yards on a touchdown, added two catches for 15 yards. Going into Monday night football, he's the RB4 and half pvr. I feel like the running back position right now, though, is just in such a state that you kind of have to go with these guys sometimes. Like, I was starting DJ Dallas in a couple of leagues to Michael Hastie.

It's, like right now the running back situation. is kind of grim. And let's scrape the bottom of the cold stone cookies and cream barrel here to talk about if the bear's running back situation. I mean, if Montgomery's out, you could do, Ryan Nall is there,

Cordarell Patterson? More like Ryan Nahl. Like, this is my line. Not to Ryan Nall, not to Cordorill Patterson. This is the, like,

this is more than the dolphins. Well, maybe not more than the dolphins. Yeah, no, more than the dolphins, more than any other team in the NFL. This is the one where you will not find what you are searching for digging through this backfield.

The offense is a catastrophe. The people who love this team and root for it and watch it every Sunday don't want to watch this offense anymore. You don't want to watch it as part of your fantasy hopes and dreams. I mean, David Montgomery, I'm at the top of my head.

He had what, like 17 touches for like 35 or 40 yards or something? Total? Like, there's nothing to be had here. They can't move the ball. There's a desperation. Matt Nagy can't design an offense. Nick Foles is saying that

Nagy doesn't understand how much time the quarterback actually has in the backfield. They can't block. And then the offensive line disintegrated with two people starting for the first time in the same way. Like, there's, I would be genuinely shocked

if anything of consistency and dependency remurge from this backfield. And talking about David Montgomery going down. I don't want any part of it. Let's rank the running back waivers this week. Who's number one? Or at least, top tier.

Gotta be Duke, right? That's tough because Duke is probably only going to be like good for a week, you know, if David Johnson does miss the game. Who of these guys is going to be, I mean, I guess McCisick is crazy.

I think it's J.D. McKissick. And I do too. This is purely for PPR leagues. But the thing is, Wayne Galman, maybe you get you 12 points next week or whatever, but like I feel like once Freibon comes back, it's going to be real,

like you're going to be just kind of hoping that one of them gets a score. Duke Johnson, I agree. Like, it's just been frustrating for like years with him. And I don't think that's going to change because he's just not the in between the tackles guy the Texans need. But McKissick, he's pretty good. Like ignore the Washington jersey and just like when he was on the Seahawks, he's an explosive player. And to D.K.'s point, I mean, Washington can have a shitty game.

He can play a shitty game. And he can still get seven catches and get you like 11 points. Like if you're in a PPR league, I do think there's something just being a checkdown machine. He had, what, nine catches for 65 yards in this game. He just has such an easier to envision path for contributing to your team than anyone else on this list to me. I can't really believe him saying this, but I think McKissick's clearly the guy, even just as the third downback for Washington. I do too. Yeah.

I agree. And then Duke. And then from there, to me, it's just a toss-up. I mean, I guess you could go Gaulman, Blage. None of these guys are going to be reliable. It's going to be more like a desperation play type type guy, but. It is desperation. Even by the 2020 standards, I think Belage Patterson and all are desperate.

Okay, receivers? Yeah, let's move on to the receivers. I want to start out with Curtis Samuel, who has honestly just been really good. I feel like it's taken us a while to kind of believe that this is for real or that he's here to stay, I guess. And it feels like he is. He's a guy that we talked up all last year. It was basically in the, he was the Marquis Brown. of last year in terms of just like had a million air yards.

His underlying stats were really good, but he just couldn't have any production. This year, that production is finally coming. He has a better quarterback under center. The offensive coordinator, Joe Brady, seems to be really getting him involved. He's used on ends around. He's used down the field. Third straight, really nice game on Sunday. He had nine catches, 105 yards and a touchdown.

Three rushes for 13 yards. And yeah, I mean, again, like, he's put it together three straight games. And quietly, he's still, like, out there on seven. 70% of waiver wires right now in Yahoo. So I think to me, he is the guy, he's the guy I'd prioritize at the receiver position. But there are quite a few other players. Who else are you guys keeping in mind? No, I'm just talking about the Giants.

Sterling Shepard, I think, I mean, it's bizarre to say someone played a good game who had six catches and like less than 40 yards. But I do think Sterling Shepard looks good. And then honestly, it's not that different than like August, whereas you have one of the top receivers in an offense that's probably going to be passing quite a bit. bit, it's just kind of out there. He's like 50% of league, so he might not be. But if you need a receiver and you're decimated by things that are happening or

by weeks or whatever, Sterling Shepard's actually pretty sneaky target. And also, like, I think it gets Red Zone looks. I think Darius Slate is the number one option on this team. But I think Shepard is, if you're in a PPR, like, a pretty good option. I don't think he's the highest ceiling in the world. But he's, I mean, like a higher end Cole Beasley. Yeah, his target share has been pretty strong. I think he's had in his three games, in the last three games,

he's had 8, 10, and 8 targets. So he's definitely, you know, getting looks, and that's exactly what you want, that PPR floor. So I like him. He's a low ceiling guy, but, again, like, if you're looking to fill just like a flex spot, you don't want to get a zero, he could be an option. I wanted to toss out a couple guys.

I think Richard Higgins on the Browns. They had a buy this week, so you'll have to check and see if he's available. He's 24% rostered on Yahoo Leaks. So, yeah, they had a buy, and the week before that was that super windy game where there was like no scoring against the Raiders and he had a slow week.

But the week before that, he had 100 yards and six catches in his first game without Odell. So I think he could kind of be a sneaky ad that could potentially start on your team as like a flex or a wider C for three for the rest of the season. They're playing Houston this week. And I kind of think he's flying under the radar

because of the by and the crappy Oakland game. And then another guy I wanted to toss out again is Alan Lazard. He almost played last week, but he didn't. They left him out. I think he's probably pretty likely to play this week. And the Packers is still yet to find a strong second option.

He's still, Lizarters is only 38% rostered in leagues. I would go grab him. Yeah, I agree. I mean, we saw what Marcus Valdus Gantling could do. I mean, he's still very unreliable to me, but he had two touchdowns and that kind of that overflow, Devante's not going to catch

literally every pass in that offense. You're looking for the overflow, the Devante overflow. A couple other guys I want to mention here, Devo Samuel, if he is still out there in your league, is definitely worth adding at this point. I think he's 58%

more rostered in Yahoo. So, you know, he's not going to be out there in a lot of leagues. But if he is, he's a good stash. There's a chance he could come back for week 10.

If not, you know, then you could have him kind of for a playoff run. And again, the 49ers are just desperate for anybody to be played. What do you do about Richie James? And that's the other one

to throw in here. You know, I don't know, man. Because I think once Iyuk comes back, he'll kind of assume that role. And for clarity, Ayyuk was put on the short, or he was put on the COVID list

but then almost immediately taken off of it, it wasn't quick enough to get him into that game on Thursday night. He was a close contact. Yeah. So he's going to be back. I think, on one hand, maybe Richie James is Travis Folgum, right? On the other hand, I feel like I can't.

We're not doing Richie James. I can't remember the last time I felt such an obvious chasing a previous game that will not come again. Like, you're going to be chasing this hundred and, 80 yard game trying to get another 100 yards and like he will give you nothing i just i just don't think that he's a smart guy that's that's fair uh one other guy that i think is interesting is k j hamler

from the broncos who had 10 targets six catches 75 yards on sunday um he's playing a lot in the slot he's really fast i mean like if you watch him on the field he's explosive and it seems like he's kind of like finally finding his groove in this offense and i don't know like this is the same we had with Drew Locke, like, are we going to get this kind of thing from Drew Locke every week? I don't know. Probably not. But, you know, in an offense that needs guys to step up, you know, we got fan probably going to, maybe going to miss time. Albert O was out. This could be an opportunity for Hamler. Okay. So if we're going to rank these guys or at least tier them, is Curtis Samuel number one?

He is for me, yeah. What do you guys think? He is the best mix of like upside and I think so. afraid of the reverse burn for Samuel where he kind of like back end burns you but yeah, probably and then what? And then it's like probably Sterling Shepard and Richard Higgins?

I would put Shepard Higgins. My issue with Higgins is that the Brown's offense, as we've been saying, all the years, just so limited, but unlike Odell, where you give up a lot, I think Higgins is worth a flyer, but Baker just has no volume. Baker is more than 16 points like twice this year. So that's not great. But I think Higgins is

third after Shepard. And then I would go KJ Hamler. I don't love Michael Pittman for the Colts. I don't think Richie James is worth an ad at all. And then he can take a flyer in like Darnell Moody for the Bears, but... Dude, I fucking hate the Bears. I hate watching the Bears. Having Alan Robinson is the worst thing.

It's so not fun. He always has a decent game by the end of the game. It's the ultimate don't watch the game. Check the Alan Robinson box scores. It's been like that for years. It is brutal. All right. Well, speaking of which tight ends, Jimmy Graham, number two tight end this week.

If he's available in your league, I mean, he's the best, like, streaming option, I think, clearly. But other than Jimmy, who else would you like? It's a rough week for tight ends, honestly. I think Irv Smith. Evergreen. Yeah, Irv Smith, I guess, is an option. You know, if Dallas Goddard is still out there in your leagues, then it's still a chance to go grab him.

I think he has a chance to really finish strong. And what else? Gerald Everett is 4% rostered and his last four games. He's had two of them in double digits. He's seeing a lot more targets. the last four games they're playing the Seahawks this week. I think maybe that's a flyer. Yep, yeah.

But it's pretty grim. Okay, what if you need to stream a quarterback this week? The team's on by for the record are the Falcons, Cowboys, Chiefs, and Jets. So unless you're starting Sam Darnold or Garrett Gilbert, which we didn't even get to Gary Gilbert, but Matt Ryan's on by, Mahom's on by. So if you need a stream or quarterback, who are you guys looking at? All right. So a couple of potential options at the quarterback spot for streaming this week, Drew

Lock going up against the Raiders. Tua against the Chargers that's gonna be a fun game Tua versus Herbert and then Jake Luton versus Green Bay Jake Luton had a pretty damn good game He earned my respect

I gotta say his name right because he did that spin into the end zone I don't know if I I don't know if I'm gonna trust this whatsoever I think you should heavily bet against Jacksonville this weekend against Green Bay

I think the Luton thing is a fluke and I think Green Bay's defense should be highly streamed the other one that I was gonna throw out there if he's still out on your waiver wire, Jared Goff, going up against the Seahawks, who, my God, just start whoever's playing the Seahawks. That's kind of like the cheat code this year.

The other one I want to ask you guys about, are we interested whatsoever in like Alex Smith, if he's going up, if he's going to be the starter going forward? No. Goodness, no. No. Goodness, no. All right, there you have it.

But I will say to Craig's point that the Luton thing was very nice to just see some anonymous guy making waves like that, but I think the Packers defense, which has been pretty bad this year, is a very sneaky stream against the Jax. I think Craig's right about that. You guys just, you lack faith. The sixth round quarterbacks from the Jags are just

fancy gold. You're right, D.K. I saw a lot in the last week that does give me faith. My faith, you know what? It's been restored. Not keeping it anymore. We're spreading faith. I saw this from PFF. Jake Luton had the most big-time throws of any quarterback in week 9. Spread the faith, Jake. Big-time throws, you know, for those who don't know,

I don't know the exact way that they create it, but essentially like based on distance and proximity to the defender, like threading a needle into tight coverage downfield, like deep throws downfield. So he had more of those than any other quarterback, which is honestly surprising to me. I don't know what your guy's. as dietary restrictions are, but I'm luten free.

All right, that's all we got for this podcast. That's where we draw the line there. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig. Thank you, Jake Gluten. Now, he gets the lutein for this week. We'll go back to gluten next week. Thank you, everyone for listening. Thank you, Lorne.

Lauren. We'll see you guys on Wednesday.