The Ringer NFL Show - Mega-Mailbag: Belichick Misses HOF, Shedeur Makes Pro Bowl, Bills Hire Joe Brady, and Craig Was an Extra in 'The Fate of the Furious'

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

The guys react to Bill Belichick shockingly missing the Hall of Fame on the first ballot and then dive into Shedeur Sanders making the Pro Bowl, the Bills hiring Joe Brady, and the Titans bringing in Robert Saleh and Brian Daboll. They also roast the league’s most dysfunctional teams, debate whether the Pro Bowl should even exist, and uncover Craig’s past as an extra in 'The Fate of the Furious.' (00:00) Intro (02:36) Bill Belichick not elected to Hall of Fame (10:12) Bills hire Joe Brady as head coach (15:15) Jets fire eight coaches three weeks after season ends (18:36) Pro Bowl (25:29) Coaching news (37:34) Mailbag Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Check out the 2025 Ringer Fantasy Football Rankings: https://fantasyfootball.theringer.com/ Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Kai Grady, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

the ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hypertz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Corlebeck and we are going to do a mailbag. We have a ton of emails from you guys. We actually had so many emails. We were like, we actually have to do an entire mailbag episode. And then the NFL screwed it up. It has a bunch of coach hirings and firings that we're going to go over first.

But before even all that, Danny Kelly, your draft guide is out. Your top 32 big board. Yeah. Mock draft. At Enfield draft. Outlinger.com. Just go to the ringer.com. It's there.

DK. We're going to have a whole breakdown of your draft guide. But one, who was the player you resubbed? resented most having to do the guide. I resented the most. That is a good question. I will say the quarterbacks are always the hardest. There's just so many variables with the quarterbacks.

So I guess maybe Dante Moore for going back to school. That's the right answer. We'll save the analysis for next year. Who has the best name that you've scouted so far? Oh, that's a really good question. Let me just pull this up. Oh, I have an immediate. There's a guy.

There's a guy called Vega-Yawane. I don't know. Hopefully I'm saying that right. Vega is short. His first name, I'm not even going to try to pronounce it. Vega, Juwane is probably my favorite.

He's a guard from Penn State. And you do have him going to the Jets. So that way I can't work out. What could go wrong? Oh, the other one, real quick. Sunny Stiles. Sounds like a wrong star.

So we're going to do a whole episode on this later this week. He's a linebacker. Craig, you're probably liking this guy. He's Ohio State, super rangy. I, that's my type. I know your type.

He's going to fit right. I love rangy buck eyes. They called me a rangy bucky back in the day. I was going to say, when we go to the combine, I'm going to have to talk to Sunny Stiles and see if anyone's ever called him Sonny. Oh, God. Is it S-O-N-N-N-Y? It is.

It is. If, D-K, this was literally, when I was going through the class, months ago, the first thing I wrote down was I have to ask, I have to talk to Sunny Stiles. That's funny. I did not even put that together. That's good. It's all right. If people don't know we're talking about, it's fine.

I've never mispronanceani ever. Okay, so yeah, we're going to, we have a really fun mailbag. But first, we're going to handle this NFL news. I, God, you mentioned the Jets. I'm tempted to start there. But we should probably just go through all these disaster teams and just various updates. Okay, we just finished recording and then we are starting again because while we we were doing that episode, Bill Belichick did not make the Hall of Fame for the NFL while we

were doing that episode? Not first ballot. Not first ballot. Yeah, Don Van Nata and Seth Waker-Sham wrote about this in ESPN. In voting earlier this month, Belichick fell short of the 40 out of 50 votes needed for induction to the pro football Hall of Fame during his first year of eligibility. Four sources with firsthand knowledge of the outcome until the ESPN, Bill Belichick received a call from a hall representative last Friday afternoon with the news that he won't be inducted into the hall in Canton, Ohio, this summer. What the fuck are we doing? What kind of coach do you have to be?

Belichick asked an associate, six Super Bowls isn't enough? Yeah, exactly. So the reporting says here that the cheating stuff apparently is the reason why people aren't voting for him. Bullshit. First of all, God, look at how much have I hated the Patriots and talked about how much I hate the Patriots? I'm going to defend them. So this is Super Bowl 60, right? So Belichick won six as a head coach. That's 10% of all Super Bowls. He also won two more. His boats named eight rings. That's 12 of the 59 Super Bowls. He's won. What coaches have gotten in first ballot? because what the fuck do you have to do to get in first ballot? Here's my question.

Let's put the, obviously he's qualified. We don't even have to give that the argument. Before we can get to the cheating stuff, let's be honest. Is this Pablo Tori's fault? I'm half kidding, but like if none of this stuff comes out, if he doesn't go to UNC, if he just does the Manning cast this year, and we don't hear from him the other six days and 23 hours a week or whatever. And we don't know any of the Jordan Hudson stuff.

The public falls of Jordan Hudson is affecting his whole. Hall of Fame candidacy? I don't think. My first thought was no, that's not what it is. My first thought is he's just a dick and a lot of people don't like him. I think that's, he didn't treat the media well and like the media votes on that. I got to tell you, I don't like, I root it is like Barry Bonds. I don't, well, it's like steroids.

Kind of. Not yet. I, my immediate reaction to this, and I say this is someone who doesn't like the Patriots, but Bill Belichick is very obviously the best football coach in modern history and it's like just Paul Brat. It's literally like Amosag and Walter Camp inventing football and then Paul Brown making it a professional thing and then Bill Belichick. Like that's the 150 year history of football. I think the idea that you would, you know what it is?

It's I think sometimes the people in the room, you give people a little bit of power. And then they kind of, it's not like malicious, but you're kind of like, should he? We're upholding the integrity of the game. And I'm like, you're getting in the way of the integrity of game. He said some mean stuff when I asked questions to him. Yeah. He did Spygate 25 years ago. And 20 years ago, and so you're gonna, he's not a Hall of Famer.

But then it's like, oh, no, you're just gatekeeping. You're not a first ballot Hall of Famer. You'll be a, you'll be a second ballot Hall of Famer. It's like, get the fuck out of here. Are you kidding me? That's so weird. Bill Pollian, who's just, sorry, the sorst loser of all time got, like, he was so mad about the handchecking in the 2006 playoffs,

got all the NFL rules changed for Bill Pollian, changed the NFL rules. And then now this is what Bill Pollan spending his time. And he's like, I don't want Belichick to be a first rounder because of saying that the Colts lost 20 years ago. That's pathetic. I need to see who he's up against and who is going to be a first ballot over him. But this is also a thing of baseball. Obviously, the baseball hall of fame is a whole other thing where it's like, oh, it's a museum.

And like, why don't we're just not going to talk about Barry Bonds? How's that good for your sport? But there's also the gatekeep. It's like, you know what? It's not that different than the one guy who didn't vote for each hero, which ironically, the same effect's going to happen with Belichick. And this is why I don't care if Eli Manning doesn't make the whole fame because they're not going to put Eli Manning in. So you know what's going to happen?

We're to talk about Eli Manning's case for 15 years, which is funnier. Like, you'll hear more about him because they didn't make it. Belichick's going to get defended because he didn't make it. So these people kind of like, the Paulian probably fucked up. It's like the Streisand effect. He's drawing attention to it. But like I, the gatekeeping of first ballot to me is my least favorite thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's going to come back to the NFL next year and win a Super Bowl. Probably just to fucking just take the Brown's job. piss him off. Yeah. Gareth would be Lawrence Taylor. I don't know. That's my immediate reaction is just the gatekeeping of first ballot. It's pettiness.

It's so petty. And like hiding very high school grudge match-esque feelings behind pretending it's about the integrity of the game is pathetic. Bill Pollan told voters he believed Belichick should wait a year before induction as penance for spy game. Penance. I will say deflate. And while we're here. Come on. So Seth Wicker Shamm and Don Venata reported this for ESPN.

So Seth Wicker Shams reported this deflategate and how stupid deflategate was about, you know, I'm getting a congressional, whatever. Didn't Robert Mueller do the fucking deflate gate? Think about that 10 year period. But like the deflate gate was because the NFL owners were mad that the Patriots weren't punished for SpyGate. They were mad that the extent of the videotaping in the 2000s was love. larger and like, you know, people of the NFL, Jeff Pash, a lot of people have, it's been reported that the idea is, well, they kind of went in and destroyed all these tapes and they were like, we don't want anyone to know about this. So they were mad when Deflakey came up. It was like a

makeup call. They were like, we want you to get them because I can't believe the, the audacity to dance outside the rules again when they got off so easily last time. And people aren't, people are still mad about it. But like, it's incredible. I can't believe Bill Pullian still gives a fuck about this. I can't wait to see what Jordan Hudson does with this. I think this is actually the beginning of Belichick being redeemed because now I have to come on and I have to scream

about how Belichick's underrated this is unbelievable I know everyone on Twitter is now defending Bill Belichick what are we turntables just can't stress enough your all time backfires

it has been very fun to like make fun of Belichick the last year but it's worth reminding Bill Belichick went to 13 conference title games so all you do is make the final four and then you see what happens Vince Lombardi coached for nine years

we named a turn trophy after him. He coached for nine years. Bill Belichick made the conference finals 13 times. Bill Walsh, I don't think even coached for 13 years. It's so ridiculous. Yeah. I want somebody, I hope there's one person out there who decides to make the case that he doesn't deserve to be a hall of favor. I really want to hear that argument. That'd be great. That'd be a good pivot. I think it's the right call. We should make the case. It's actually the opposite, Craig. He doesn't deserve to be in the fall. Tell me why he should be a hallfamer. He lost three Super Bowles.

Boschby Super Bowl's the best quarterback of all time. Look what he did at UNC. That's what he really is capable of. He's right. He held Tom Brady back. Yeah. There's,

you have to get 40 out of 50 votes. There's at least 10 people that didn't vote for this. That's crazy. 11. Well, yeah. 40 gets it. Right. That's,

wild. Wild. We can get to the rest of the show, but I think we're going to have my coach news. The other semi-finalist in the coaching category were Tom Coughlin, Mike Holmgren, Chuck Knox, Buddy Parker, Dan Reeves, Marty Schottenheimer,

George Seiford, and Mike Shanahan. I kind of want Marty Schotenheimer to get in for Belichick. That would be really funny. Man. I, yeah. Well, you know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe he doesn't deserve it.

Well, let's think on it a year. Let's see if he's qualified. Maybe he learned his lesson. That'll tell him. That'll show him. See what happens when he doesn't cheat at UNC? Okay. All right, we can get to the rest of the show.

I don't even know where this is going in. We'll figure it out when we're done. But wherever something, we're continuing with wherever you left off. The Bills hired Joe Brady, their offensive coordinator as the head coach. I don't even know where to begin with this because, I mean, I don't know. Andrew Grudadarro wrote a great who's a Bill's fan here at the Ringer, wrote a great story for the ringer.com website. He called it How to Lose a fan base in 10 hours.

And he wrote about and he hit this line that the 48 hours between the initial announcement of Sean McDervyn's firing and the press conference where public relations disaster class for Buffalo and a series of decisions that practically lit on fire the fan base's faith and goodwill that had been built up over nine years. That included the owner blaming the coaching staff for wanting Keon Coleman, not the GM who got promoted. Now the coach is the head coach. Like they blamed the coaching staff for wanting Kean Coleman, but said it wasn't McDermott.

It was the offensive staff, then made the offensive coordinator of the head coach of the team. It does feel rough that. Like the bills have been. good. And so if you're going to fire your head coach, it feels like you should try to start fresh with something new that feels different. And them just sticking with the next guy in line when they were saying what's been going on the past five years is not enough does feel a little bit contradictory. Yeah. It's the truth is, and D.K. I'm curious what you think. The truth is

Terry Piccolo, the guy who owns the bills just walked into the locker room and made an emotional decision that he was just emotionally lost the game. And he's, just now fucking trying to figure out the fallout of just this extremely extremely impulsive decision he made. I have a question for the bills fans, maybe you guys could write in and let me know. Are people not confident in Joe Brady specifically? Or is it more just like, hey, we're firing our head coach, our longtime head coach, who's brought us incredible success over the years because we just feel like we can't get over the hump. We need to do something new.

And then they hired the guy that was also on the same staff that's been around. is it like do people not believe in Joe Brady do they think he's a bad coach I think you could go in depth on kind of what he's done in his career so far and a lot of it has to do with being connected to really good quarterbacks um so I I just he's the kind of guy I'm just like I don't really know what you're getting with him yeah it's funny because Joe Brady was given a lot of credit for like I mean the 2019 LSU team that he was on that he coached Joe Burrow Jammar Chase yeah well it was it was like I mean that was maybe the best college offense in the history of football.

I mean, they broke every record for college. It was actually crazy to compare like Indiana's numbers this year with that LSU team. But then it's like Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Justin Jefferson, all these guys. She's like, oh, okay. And he went to the Panthers. And again, Elena Gadsenberg and ESPN had a great summary of Joe Brady, which since he got promoted to Bill's offense coordinator in November 2023, shortly after remember Ken Dorsey smashing that tablet in the booth when they lost that Dolphins game.

Yes. Shortly afterward, since Joe Brady was promoted, the bills are first in EPA per play in the NFL, There's second points per game. Last year, the bills had the most points in touchdowns. Or sorry, last year, 20, 24, they had eight straight games with 30 plus points. Josh Allen won a VP. This year, James Cook leaves the NFL in rushing yards. They have nine games or 30 points this season, which is tied for the most in the NFL

with the Rams. And they did that. You know, the Rams at Devanti Adams and Pooka Dukua. The bills up the whole issues. They have Brandon Cooks catching passes and the players. So Joe Brady has done a lot. I think the question is, are you actually better off with Joe Brady running the whole team instead of just the offense?

was it just feels like emotional fallout. Right. Here, do that thing, same thing, but also you have to do a whole bunch of other stuff. I don't know. Maybe you're like the Jaguars wish they had, or sorry, the Bucks wish they had fired Todd Bowles and kept Liam Cohen, right? Or like the Ravens probably wish they had fired John Harbin and kept Mike McDonald or the Titans were so mad about letting Matt Lergo that they fired Mike Rable. So maybe that's the argument is Joe Brady was going to leave. And you're like, well, we already fired McDermott. We got to keep Joe Brady, which is probably the closest answer. I don't know. Right.

It is interesting. Brady was getting interviews all over. He interviewed with a bunch of teams for head coaching positions. So it's not like he's kind of coming out of nowhere, and they just gave the job to the next guy they could find in the hallways. But this is just kind of an interesting situation. I do wonder, again, this is kind of what I was wondering at the time it happened. Is there a Josh Allen influence with this decision?

And overall kind of what's happened, obviously they're trying to not get him involved. publicly, but I'm wondering what happened behind the scenes. It is a little public. So speaking of Elena Getsenberg's story, ESPN, she noted that Josh Allen is in the coaching interviews. Oh, really? I don't know if that means all of them, but it's, Brandon being the GM, we got promoted, a president, is running them,

the search. And Josh Allen's been in the coach interviews, at least some of them. So this, to me, he's just in the corner, like behind a curtain listening, like Jordan Hudson. We're not talking about that. Blind date. Yeah. He just pops his head out.

this must have Josh Allen influence then I would see. He has like the groucho glasses and a mustache and he's like, I like that Joe Brady guy. That guy's great. Aaron Glenn head coach today, today's January 27th fired the coordinator, Tanner Engstrand on offense. Tuesday, January

27th, on Friday, four days ago, Aaron Glenn fired seven other coaches. So Aaron Glenn has fired eight coaches three weeks after the season ended. What did you learn in the last three weeks that you did not know I was trying to ask people around the jets who might know, and I actually sent this.

I was like, did Woody Johnson wake up from a coma or did Brick Johnson come home from school? And because it just like, this spring break yet? No, I guess not. I was like, maybe the snow. They're like, hey, get out of Harvard or whatever. I don't. This is no world. This is a good process.

Like, I mean, the coaches he fired, Aaron Glenn fired the offensive coordinator, the quarterback coach, the passing game coordinator. On defense, Aaron Glenn's defensive coach hired the fired the defense. coordinator, the defensive line coach, the linebackers coach, and the defensive backs coach. That's everybody. That's all the positions on defense. How did three weeks pass? And they're like, you know what? He finally started watching some of the tape from last year. He's like, oh, God, this looks, this is horrible. He's like zero interceptions? We had zero interceptions. Hold on. Wait, did anyone know about this? We had zero picks.

Dude, I remember Bill Cower has this quote. I think about a lot where he's like, he was asked about coaching players as a head coach. And Bill Cowher was like, my job. job is not to coach players. My job is to coach coaches. And Aaron Glenn fired all his coaches. It feels evidently clear that Aaron Glenn is not long for the Jets head coaching position. Like I can't believe how quickly this has spiraled. And I feel like he's going to be gone, either mid-next season or after next season or after next season. Maybe they'll wait three weeks after the season to fire him like he did to all his assistant. Yeah, they're going to keep them and then they're going to fire him. I think in all seriousness, I think that ownership had to get

involved. Like, I don't think, I don't know what's worse actually to have ownership, budding in three weeks later and being like, we changed our mind, we think you should be doing this or this or disagreeing on an ownership budding in wait or ownership not budding in. And Aaron Glenn just changing his mind. That's worse. I don't even know it's worse. Well, I think part of this is, and maybe I missed some recent reporting, but part of it is that they're bringing in Frank Reich to run the offense.

And so from what I understand, it was, I think it related to the fact that bringing Frank Reich in and Engstrom was getting demoted essentially. Well, they decided to demote Tanner. string two and a half weeks after the season. Right. So maybe this is the Occam's razor here is just that they didn't know they were going to hire Frank Reich. It kind of came together recently and that's why they're doing this now. But just the fact that this aside, the fact that he's fired eight position coaches after the year and he keeps his job is like so weird to me. Like what just just clean house.

Just bring in a new coach. This is obviously not working. It's not impossible that the Seleks or Patriots win the Super Bowl, get their coaches poached and fill out a staff before the Jets do. That's not impossible. It's bizarre. Anyway, not to kick the Jets while they're down, but I actually want to, I put down in arm of mince tattoos. I added to the list for next year.

Don't take the Jets seriously. This is a three-win football team. Bet the under, bet them to win the number one pick. Like, there is no chance. So that's pathetic. Sorry. The other one, I can't believe this is not where we started. But the Cleveland Browns, first of all, Shadr's standards made the Pro Bowl.

which is all you need to know about the Pro Bowl. They might end the event. Mel Khyper vindicated all time. It's win for Mel. Big time. Big time. Mel Kiper, send him a phone roll. So Shadr Sanders, I don't have to tell people who didn't have a great year.

He had more interceptions than touchdowns last year. Not a great start, but continue. Concisely, Seth Walder and ESPN posted that Shadr Sanders did not play enough to qualify for ESPN's total quarterback rating stat, but that if he did, Shudor Sanders would be last. That is hilarious. He didn't play enough to qualify for a stat, and yet he's a pro bowler.

Oh, by the way, but if he had qualified for that, dead last. By far the worst. Dead last. What did he finish? Dead last? Yeah, he had a great day though. Okay.

Yeah, this was, is this a fan voting thing, correct? No, so I think, I don't know. Or there's just no other quarterbacks in the NFL left. The NFL, I think, hides what happened to the alternates. I think the simplest thing that happened is two things. Quarterbacks are hurt, and they moved it from Hawaii to Orlando because it was, I think they pretended they were like, more people can come, but I think it was cheaper. And also, I forget if USB had even eras it, but if USB had it, I'm sure it was related to them wanting Disney infrastructure.

But basically, it's really expensive to send these guys to Hawaii. The problem is all of these men are millionaires and can go to Orlando, Florida, whenever they want. So it's not really that enticing to have it all entic. Like, if you're Joe Burrow, a two. two-week trip to Hawaii right after the season is sick. They don't need to go to Orlando. They're staying in a much nicer place somewhere in Mexico. They want me to leave my vacation and go to Orlando.

So I think what happens, Drake May goes to the Super Bowl, Josh Allen's foot surgery, Mahomes tourist is ACL, Bo Nix is a broken ankle, Daniel Jones says a torn Achilles, Trevor Lawrence says no. Justin Herbert, I think, is injured and said no. C.J. Stroud can't come out of hiding from the turnovers he just had. That would be a bad look. And I think Joe Burrow must have privately declined because in the NFL didn't want

them should her made it over borough well i think burrow said no that's my point you made it over trevor lawrence well i think i think Lawrence publicly it was i think they leaked Lauren said no i think burrow they're privately saying no Aaron rogers probably also privately said no at this point what like he's the worst quarterback in the NFL like they went from the first all the way to the last like actually that's my point i think the NFL probably looked at it and saw tua who was benched the jets who don't have a quarterback and cam war to jina smith and like well screw it they're probably talking about it on the shows if shudder makes it like he's like the worst quarterback how did he think it over cam ward i i i actually have no idea maybe this is what we needed to officially like this will be the end of

the pro this is nor saunders killed the pro bowl it's so funny it might be roger roger sherman our our colleague and friend he said recently he goes this has permanently ruined the integrity of the pro bowl flag football and tug of war competitions i think we're already at the point where no one gives a fuck about the pro bowl anyway so there should just be nothing just don't do anything No, it's the, you know, I think it frustrates the NFL, it's the only thing they're bad at. The NFL's good at everything. The NFL's made the NFL combine a thing. The only thing the NFL sucks at is making the all pro team matter, which it should be a big deal.

And it's just not. And I think all NBA is a bigger deal than all pro teams. I think some fans don't even know the difference. And then the pro bowl is meaningless. And they need to go back to it being after the Super Bowl. And you need the people win the Super Bowl to go back to playing in the freaking Pro Bowl. Wait, when is the pro bowl? Is it this week?

This weekend. Yes. You're fucking kidding me? It's been the way for 10 years. Well, no, here's the deal, Hyphitz. I've actually never watched the Pro Bowl. I don't know. Honestly, I don't care about it when I was 10 years old and I haven't watched it since.

I feel like in general, sports leagues are bad at knowing how to have a good time. Like, they don't know how to have fun. Right. The SBs have never quite worked. Like, the Pro Bowl is not great. The NBA All-Star game has been a mess for a long time. No one knows how to have fun in these sports. Like, did you say baseball?

Did you say baseball? I think baseball is better. All-Star weekend is good, mainly because of the home run derby? Yeah. Like that's it. And they've tweaked it a zillion times to make it interesting. But they've gotten there and it's good. And also you need the good people participating.

The NBA Slim Dunk, I always remember there was the year that Dwight Howard went against Nate Robinson, which was like a 30s carnival thing, like the biggest player in the league versus the smallest in a dunk contest. And then Dwight Howard, I think, brought out a 12-foot rim. And LeBron James is sitting there like sideline and is like, I'm going to do it next year. And I'm like an idiot and I thought he would.

And I'm like, I've been waiting for LeBron to do the dunk contest for 12 years. I used to, man, I used to fucking love the dunk contest. Sean Kemp back in the day was in the dunk contest a couple of times. Nate Rob is a Seattle native, like legend around here. Yeah. I feel like the internet half killed all that stuff because nobody wants to be embarrassed. Yes, 100%. And it's like, why would I do that?

Because if I actually am less of a good dunker than people think, or if I miss in some embarrassing fashion, I'll get destroyed online. It's actually easier just to not do it. And I'll sit on the sideline in a cool outfit and hang out. I'm trying, Jennifer. Yeah. And then football is like it's football. Who wants to go play football when you're,

when you are out of the playoffs. Like, you're relaxing. So the last thing I would want to do is go run around and potentially like tear my ACL for nothing in Orlando. The funniest thing is they should set on Hawaii and I still think it's not that complicated. They should do a race. They should do a hundred yard dash.

You have to hold a football. And guys are like, oh, I'm not going to run full speed. And it's like the ego of I want to be the fastest man in the NFL. They'll do that. And it will, and I'll watch it. It should just be more skills-based stuff. I don't know. They can play basketball.

I don't know what it is. I get mad because Dexter Lawrence is an elbow. this year and he had a seat when and I are at the end of the previous season with an elbow injury and then it's like these videos of him doing tug of war at the pro bowl and I'm like what the fuck why are you doing that and then you didn't have a good year I'm so anyway I feel like if you give us an hour we could we should do an episode where it's like we'll fix the pro bowl at an hour I think we could I I actually hot ones hot ones NFL style that's actually how to fix the NFL in one hour I think we got it set the timer I actually think do you know what by far would be

the most entertaining thing and actually threads the needle of if you let the players do it, what the players most want to do and would be the most entertaining thing. A basketball game. That's what you said. They should play basketball. Every football player wants to be an NBA player. Just do a three point competition. C.J. Strzs brings a basketball for hoop to the fucking games.

Is it right now just a flag football game? No, there's like all these other. There's the skills challenge, right? Like you're like throwing out. targets and whatnot. Right. But then the big like finale, the end of it is like a seven-on-seven flag football game, right?

Yeah. I think it's more than seven, but I love that we don't even know. But yeah. I did the basketball game would be incredible. Because that's where guys like Trent Williams are like incredible. Like seeing left tackles play basketball is insane because they can dunk. Drake London played USC basketball.

Like I would love to see that. That'd be cool. Yeah. Okay. More with this NFL stuff. So nobody wants the Brown's job. This is an all-time. You know what's so funny.

If Kevin's DeFansky had never, worked there, they could never have hired him in this cycle. No way. They would have had no shot. Dude, all this stuff coming out about this, like, weird test that they're requiring their candidates to take, you just like sit down and take the Browns SAT. This is like, I'm good. It's like a fantasy football punishment. I'm like, brother, you should be begging people to come in, not force and then to take

some weird aptitude test. It's like, they should take anybody who's willing to walk in the door. Everyone's like, actually, I'm good. All these like, the Jags O.C., all these coordinators are going back to their teams because nobody, they're like literally removing themselves from the Browns interview. Like Mike McDaniel, I'm doing all that. I'm not going to forget to come over there and take a test. I'm not writing a fucking essay. I'm a grown man.

Reading comprehension. Are you out of your mind? Why do you want to be the Brown's head coach? Oh my God. It's like a, yeah, it's, it's hilarious. I think, um, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it. I thought it was made up.

So do the, so they're still searching, right? Like, is there a favorite right now to be the Browns coach? We don't even have any clue. Jim Schwartz, the defensive coordinator, because there's no one else is taking the job. Are they going to make him write an essay? I've heard that after Shador got the pro bowl job,

they're thinking about bringing him in his head coach. Oh, that's true. Why not? Player coach. Speaking of jobs, nobody wants, nobody wants to be the Eagles offensive coordinator. So like, I think other people joked about this, but so like.

What's going on there? So like said, it's like Harry Potter. They can, as a different professor doing defense against the dark arts each year in the sixth book, they can't find anyone to take the job because the other people all died and spoiler, Craig. And that's where we are at the Eagles. They're just kind of like, oh, so it's 50-50 I get a head coach job and 50-50 Eagles fans want me dead by Thanksgiving. Honestly, I feel like that's a worthy coin flip. I mean, Shane Stike and Kellan Moore, these guys are head coaches of team. I feel like there are worse jobs than running the Eagles

offense right now, no? Big Dom's doing the interview. He's like, how much have you ever lost in a coin toss? is this a pretty bad look for jalen hurts is this the main takeaway that how could it not be yeah they don't want to work with you that's i mean it's just yeah i think the implication here is the writing between or the what is it the read between the lines or whatever is that he's such a limited quarterback it's like hard to design a good offense that's going to work really well i i do think like kelly more got i got a head coaching job maybe he just he was just so good out the other I don't know. Are we overstating this a little bit?

Yeah, yeah, probably. He's so bad you can't. They just won the Super Bowl 12 months ago and they've been good. Their offense has been good for like three of the past four years. Hence why it's weird that Brian Davel went to Tennessee and Mike McDaniel went to the charge. I mean, Mike McDaniel, that would make sense. We'll get those in a second. It's just weird that nobody wants this job.

And so again, maybe it's not about Hertz to your point. Maybe it's more Siriani. Yes. I think Siriani, you're coming in to just do Siriani's vision. And like, Kellan Moore had Carp launch to do what he wanted. and maybe that's not what the deal is in Philly right now. Maybe it's Nixirani's like, we're going to doubling down. I don't know, but it's weird because in theory,

this is your best chance to win a Super Bowl. Just go run the Eagles. It should be easy. I know, like Cliff Kingsbury or something. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. He's in Thailand. They can't get hold of them. We don't talk about that enough.

That was unbelievable. It's so relatable. Yeah. Craig, you're Mike McCarthy, your Steelers head coach, Mike McCarthy at his opening press conference today. Did you see the beginning? of it the first like 10 seconds. Now what's the whole thing.

You want to tell people how Art Rooney started the, started the brother. Yeah, the owner, Art Rooney the second started, he sat down and he was like, my great, my grandfather would be so excited to know that we're hiring a guy from Greenfield Pittsburgh and I was like, Craig's like, God damn it. I'm like, that can't be the first thing you say, Art.

Is that, yeah, we're bringing it to Pittsburgh man. His next words, Art Rune was like, look, artist, he looked, I wrote it down, he said, having said that, him being from Greenfield had little to do with their decision here. I'm like, really, because it was, was the first thing you said. Also, I would say like 30% of the press conference was Mike McCarthy crying and being like, man,

it's just so, it's so great being in Pittsburgh. My family's so excited. We're all so excited. This is awesome. And then there's like telling stories about the old days. And oh man, Omar Khan and I were in New Orleans together. I'm just so happy to be back. This is just so great.

There are certain coaches that if they had never made it to the NFL would be coaching high school and having great lives. And there are certain coaches that if they in a different life, would just be like US senators. and Mike McCarthy would be a U.S. senator if he had not been in football. There was a lot of talk around like the way it's always been done,

the Steelers way. And he was like, you know, talking about the offense and developing a quarterback. And he was like, never really deviating from the old school way. And it's worked for decades. And he talked about the defense.

I want to keep the defensive scheme the same. It's worked since 92. I'm like, all right. This is how the Giants hired Dave Gettleman. Because he was like, I think, Because all the other candidates came in were like, you guys should change. Gatelman was like, no, let's just keep doing it the same way. Or we could do it the same way.

Oh, my God. Good luck, Craig. You got to keep track of Craig. Also, by the way, he did say he wants to bring back Aaron Rogers. He said, why would you- What's you going to say? Kick rocks? Well, maybe.

And he's excited to develop Will Hard. Is that how he says it? Yeah, Will Hard. Yeah, look, I'm going to be in Mike McCarthy's shorts this offseason. You're all over him. I'm all over his ass. I need to see. I need to see.

He's not doing phrasing anymore. I'm going to be in his ass. He's going to be in his shorts. He's going to be all over his ass. I'm going to be up Mike McCarthy's ass this off season and the start of next season. What did you think of Mike McCarthy wearing a suit? What do you mean by that question? It just didn't look.

It just looked funny. It looked weird. That's all. It's just not a suit guy. That's all. I appreciate Brooke Pryor was the only one who asked about, hey, you're 63 years old, and the last three Steelers coaches have been coaches for 15 to 20 years.

Like, what's your plan? He dodged it. He's a skillful filibuster. He knows how to talk, and he can kind of wiggle his way out of any question. He's charming. Yeah, he is. Does he have good catchphrases?

Kind of, yeah. Not quite on the Tomlin level, obviously. But he's been a head coach. It's early. Two separate time. He's been a head coach for 20 years. He knows how to answer these questions. But it just felt like so much of it was like,

what was it like when you texted your family? And he was like, I can't even get it. Just being back here. You can tell which of the guys on the Steelers, like the reporters are just like other men in their 60s from Pittsburgh. We're just friends with Art Rooney from like the 80s and which ones, well, I'm not going to say.

Anyway, we should hope for a moment. Mike McDaniel went to the L.A. charges as the offense coordinator. I don't think I'm being dramatic when I say, these are two of the best quotes, quoted people as coaches in the history. the NFL. I don't know what they're going to say next. Jim Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel on the same staff. Mike McDaniel, who said, like,

today we're one day closer to death entering like this last season. And then there's Jim Harbaugh who like, his first week with the Chargers told the players like, I remember the day I was born. They're on the same staff now. This, this hiring might officially begin my, my switch to becoming a Chargers fan. I know, right?

This is so awesome. It's all coming together, Craig. Like, if it's in place. If it's week three in the Steelers, the Browns unveiling. I'm just going to the Chargers. I'm out. I'm out. Jerry Seinfeld. Ah, I'm out. I'm out. I can't do this. I can't. I mean, is this the most back you have ever felt about the Chargers in the Justin Herbert era? It happens every year for me, but 20 years. We're in 20 years in a row, literally 20 years in a row of this is the year. I remember being so

back on freaking Philip Rivers and LaDadian Tomlinson. Like, this is Marlon. I mean, we're all the way back. Because we had, there was the Anthony Lynn, right? He was the first coach with Herbert. That was a mess. I wrote a story for the ringer about all the charges crushing losses and improbable like their god smited them. And I ran it six years ago. And I think if I updated it, I could add 15 games to the list. Because I remember it's like Lynn, they kicked out. And then Brandon Staley came in who was this like guru, defensive guy. You felt good about that. And Joe Lombardi was the O.C. And then we were all in on that. But then like their receivers were terrible. And then you had Ladd-McConkey come in.

They fire Brandon Staley. Then it was like Harbaugh, and we're all excited. And the injuries happen. And now it's like, okay, Mike McCarthy, get the offensive line healthy. Jim Harbaugh running the ship. Omerian Hampton? All in. All in.

We should actually be the first people on this. Next year is the year for the charges. It's not this year. Because imagine, now this year, it's not going to go well. But next year when Herbert has a whole year under Mike McDaniel, a whole offseason under Mike McDaniel, 2027. That's the year. What if we just assume that they're going to be terrible again? Well, they're not they're never terrible, but they have a first, I mean, Herbert is incredible.

They have first run picker running back for two first round picks at wide receiver, two first run picks at left and right tackle. And then Aranda Gadsden, they figure it's sitting out of 10 end. They need to replace the entire interior offensive line. Two, two guards in his center. If they do that, like they should be really, really, really fucking good. And Herbert should like maybe win the MVP. Like that should be the expectation. They should be. I'll never forget that. Week one game in, was it in Brazil against the Chiefs? Herbert kicked a shit out of the Chiefs in Mahomes and looked like the best quarterback in blue. Yeah, I remember you saying they're all the way back. They're over all the stuff that has plagued them in the past. Unfortunately, they are who they are. Yes. I think

Dic is right. They're just cursed. Maybe my my fandom will tilt the scales. I hope so. The other one that happened. Brian Dable, uh, went to the Tennessee Titans as offensive coordinator. So Robert Sala was hired hired as the Titans head coach and now, uh, Saul hired Dable as the Titans office quarter. I think this was a great move for the Titans. I think Dable flamed out as a head coach for, you know, the managerial issues and game management is too emotional on the sidelines running and screaming and just like he was just not a level headed guy running, but every quarterback that he was too infatuated with Jackson Darts. Yeah, it was, it was weird. We need to separate these two. Yeah. It was weird. Uh, but every quarter.

quarterback that Brian Dable has worked with in 10 years has gotten a lot better. Like Jalen Hurtson, two at Bama. I mean, honestly, that's the best two is ever played, probably, other than that first year with McDaniel. And then, like, I mean, Josh Allen was a laughing stock when he started. And by the time, Daibble left him, he was an MVP candidate. I mean, it's not just Daniel Jones at the time, being at winning a playoff game. Like, Brian Dable won three games with Tommy DeVito.

Like, Jackson Dart, like, I think that if you're the Titans and you're in an AFC South now that you have the Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence and then the Texans, it's Like, you need Cam Ward to be like a borderline top 10 quarterback to compete. And I think this is a great move. I think it's a nice floor raising couple of decisions with Sala and Dabal. It's like making this a professional organization. You don't want to bring in some like first time guy who is young and unfamiliar. And then you have him and Cam Ward like trying to figure it out together at the same time.

That was kind of Callahan. Yeah. Yeah. Dabal and Sala are like veterans know what they're doing. They're just going to raise the floor of the team across the board. I think I really like it. I like the model of. we're going to have a head coach who does one side of the ball and we have another head coach

who did the other side of the ball and like it just works the bears Dennis Allen like totally I don't I mean less liked than Brian dable but Dennis Allen is a great coordinator who's struggles as a head coach running the whole show but I mean look how good the bears were hiring him like it just that model has worked it was cool to see after that Bears rams game it was cool to see McVeigh went up to Dennis Allen at midfield and was like dude you kicked our ass today like no yeah we had no idea what we were doing great job yeah I mean he's like As long as you get Dennis Allen away from Kendrae Miller, like, it's going to be okay. He can still be a good coach as long as his seething hatred for Kendrae Miller isn't

like all consuming. Did he tear his ACL this year, Kendra? You did, yeah. Somewhere Dennis Allen is fist pumping. Okay. You just want to do the mailback? Yeah. So you guys haven't seen any of these.

I pulled these all. So I want to, well, I want to start with a couple of corrections, you know? We're not going to just bury the corrections at the end of the show. So we're going to start here with a couple corrections. We got something wrong? well not we um oh got to start here with um Craig this is from Matthew and many other people emailed in to say that Buffalo is not building a dome they're building a stadium Kansas City is building a dome

Cleveland's building a dome oh good more importantly more importantly an email from Alexander I would like to point out that neither you motherfuckers knew that clearly or so you would have said something and Hyvitz you were you hopped on with me on that I did I did I I might have not heard what you said. I was wrong. Dick is like I wasn't listening. If I didn't correct you, it's because I didn't hear you. I was like, I was scrolling.

That's so much fun here. This one's from Alexander. Okay. A bone. Breakfast today was coffee with oat milk. This is the best correction I've seen. Alexander writes, Craig said,

the gladiators did not fight in a dome. Okay. Well. The Coliseum is not a dome. It was a retractable roof. The Coliseum had a retractable canvas cover called the Valerium that was mostly used to shield spectators from the sun. It didn't go all the way over. No, it did not.

The Middle Arena was still exposed. But the fact that the college. I've seen the movie of Gladiator too, all right? Great gladiator also. Oh my God. Okay. I just thought that was funny that he was like, well, anyway, do you guys want? What was it called?

The Valerium? We need to get one of them for, uh, for Dallas. They knew about this shit 2,000 years ago in the Coliseum and fucking Jerry Jones can't get a Valerium What is it? Coliseum of better curtains than the Cowboys Jerry knows a year in advance

Just like the Romans did Oh my God That's so good Craig there's like a hat behind your head And I keep thinking you have like a bun On the tough of your That's a rewatchable's hat You look like it's one of those hats you get at a baseball game

A baseball game of price Sorry It's like a little. Hold, let me position it perfectly. Yeah. It's like a little tiny top hat. There's a little tiny mouse under it. He's the one feeding you your takes.

Oh, my God. Like ratatooie. It's fucking ratatooie in this bitch. Okay, I have a few emails in each of these categories. But do you want, we could do old guys. I would love a couple that aren't correcting things I've said in the bat. No, you're good. It's, do you want to start with old-timey guys and name stuff?

Or do you want to go with boomers, not drinking water? stuff. Old timey. Okay. So Chris writes, I listened to your podcast today. The topic of Amos Alonzo Stag came up, and it reminded me of your other discussions about football badasses,

and I wanted to let you guys know about the legendary Canadian football league player, Piffles Taylor. Sorry? Piffles. Piffles, Tiffles. Tiffles. Piffles. Come again.

Piffles Taylor. What did you call me? Was it so hard about Piffles. Piffles. Piffles was a Canadian World War I pilot turned player coach and executive. Of course. During World War I. A World War I pilot?

So he's like flying around in biplanes? It's like the Red Baron. I don't know. Wow. In World War I, Piffels Taylor lost an eye when his plane got shot down, spent a year as a German prisoner of war, then came home, replaced it with a glass eye, and then returned to Regina R.C., which is now the Saskatchewan Rough Ruffiders, quarterbacked the team to the league trophy, and then went on to be their coach, executive and team president.

And during a game in 1919, Piffles Taylor was tackled. His glass eye popped out. He calls timeout, orders everyone to stand back, gets down on his hands and knees, searches for five minutes, finds his eye, pops it back in, resumes the game. Nobody could help him find it. I don't think he wanted help. This man played quarterback with one eye. Got one eye.

Was the forward pass happening at this point in time? Like, imagine how you need depth perception to fucking throw the football. It's tough. Why didn't he wear a patch? You didn't want people... The glass eyes better than a patch. If you guys lose an eye, are you going with a patch,

or you're going to class eye? Oh, man. Eye patches for pirates because they actually didn't have to lose an eye. It was because it's so sunny on the deck, but you go down, it's so dark. So it's actually so that you could see when you went down and switch it over.

Oh, really? They'd actually lose an eye so that when you went downstairs, that eyes used to darkness and you can see when you go down. That's pretty smart. fact. Yeah. I don't know if that's true, but it sounds cool. I never really consider why pirates always wore an eye pal. I was like, I mean, he's got just getting their eyes poked out a lot.

I feel like they probably. I feel like some of them did lose their eyes. But yeah, probably. Also, do you remember when we were joking about the word enucleation? We're like, that's what it means. It means to lose an eye. Oh. Why did you say a nucleation? He was a nucleated. It was the blood bath at Hamden Park. It's why Harvard and Yale stop playing football in the 1890s. My dad texted me about that. He's like, Hafeis just said unucleated. All these doctors are like, do you know what that means? I'd go with the eye patch if I lost my eye. You think so?

Yeah. I think you could do it. Another old-timey guy I want to mention here is from Matthew. Embone. Breakfast is oatmeal with peanut butter to have been a banana plus one mug of green tea. Nice. He wrote about the first professional football player was named Pudge. Hefflefinger.

Come on. No, that's what his name has to be if he's the last football player. Pudge. Pudge Hufflefinger. How are you the first football player? It wasn't like a collection of men? So glad you asked. He was a college player.

They wanted to play in a game. And so Pudge Hefflefinger got paid $500 to play some game in Pittsburgh, 1892. And this is on the, this is real. This is the NFL Hall of Fame website. He's like the 6'3 200-pounder scored the only points in the Allegheny Athletic Association's win over the Pittsburgh Athletic Club. and then Hefflefinger would go on to be a college football coach and an unsuccessful bid in U.S. Congress.

And there's, he invented pulling guard. Oh. Like he was the first guy to like run to the other side. He's an innovator. And even in Puffel Hedge, sorry, Pudge Hefflefinger's 40s, it was common for Pudge to return to Yale and the coach would give him a jersey and let Pudge play with the second team during practice. His Wikipedia says he has considered the greatest lineman of his time.

Lineman. He was a hundred hundred people. 195 pounds. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. He played in organized football until his 60s. Until 60s?

Yeah. Wow. Pro charity games, but he was in his 60s. This man played football into his 60s, and he lived to be 86 years old. Dude. Just built up. We don't know anything. This guy, so I was curious,

Heffelfinger is an Americanized version of a Swiss German name Haftel finger. That's some real Ellis Island shit. where someone's just sitting there like, I don't like it. Heffel finger. Halfel fit. No, we're going Heffel. Halfel?

Uh, last one here. Dude, this is from Zach. Z-Bone. Breakfast was Red Bull and a burrito. Wait. Red Bull? Red Bull and a burrito? What kind of burrito are we talking here?

Like a breakfast burrito? Just a regular burrito. Is he assuming that we think it's a breakfast? Like, I guess if you're, it's for breakfast and you just say burrito, he assumes we think breakfast burrito? I don't know. Red Bull and a Barreta? He didn't actually put his breakfast

I followed up because I love the email so much but I wanted to uphold the integrity of the breakfast to be included on a barino. All right. I can't imagine drinking a Red Bull for breakfast. We get a lot more people saying they have energy drinks in the morning

than I like Red Bull, but the idea of doing energy drinks every day. I guess I don't know. My brother drinks way more energy drinks than I realized. She does this in the combine. Cut the habit.

It's worse than cigarettes. It's called C4. Yeah, literally. It's crazy. Guy yesterday in my flight had like a 20-ounce monster, just ripping it. Email us if you drink energy drinks everything. Ripping it. You can't just drink it.

You have to rip it. Just rip and passes. I think I would die if I had a 20-ounce monster. I'd go die. I like Red Bull. I just... Yeah, I don't mind the flavor of Red Bull. It's like apple juice and kerosy.

Great vodka Red Bull slushies in Pacific Beach, San Diego. Those are good. You guys, I'm sure you've heard of Four Loco, But what was your guys' version of Four Loco when you were growing up? Four loco. You had four loco in your day? For loco once they took all the goods? No, less tar.

We know, we had it when it was still like pure battery acid in high school. You actually, Wow, Craig, have we discovered a micro-generational difference between us? Because you're one grade older than me? When did you drink the original unchanged Four Locos? The four locoes when I was in high school were the bad kind. They still had them when you were in high school. And they had all the caffeine and all the,

And they basically were like, you can't combine these. But that was like a three year window. It was like 4,000 calories, 10 shots and 400 million grams of caffeine. Those of those like, they're like, you know what? They were like, we can't believe this is legal either. We used to drink those before high school dances. That's crazy. I don't think I had a real four loco in high school, to be honest.

It was perfect. Reved you up, calmed you down. It was perfect. A lot of people died, though. A lot of, too many deaths at that. What's funny about them is like, they did not come in 12-ounce cans. They, of course, were only in the 24-ounce bullets. So it was like, God damn it.

Kind of no way around it. They wouldn't even make them in regular-sized cans. I remember, like, in college, like, if you had them in a party, they'd be limited. And so you would stick some, like, under the deck or something so that later in the night, you still have one. That's good. So anyway, Zach, you know also about the old four loco stories. I want those. I want the original.

And also, if you're older generations, what those versions are? Like, we have some boomers who listen to this show. I want to know about the fucking quailudes. Everything I know about quailudes is from the Wolf of Wall Street. Pop some ludes. Email me if you're old enough about it that you did quail. Craig's just scratchy. It's like, oh, this is a line.

No, no. I want to know weird drinks that people used to drink that are kind of not kosher anymore. Yeah, email us those too. I like that. Like absence and stuff. Short and sweet. This is from Zach. He says, today I accidentally stumbled upon the legend.

of Jimmy Chicken Wolf. Okay. Chicken Wolf. I like it already. Known for being the only baseball player to play all 10 seasons in the American Association from 1882 to 1891.

Famously, yeah. Chicken Wolf hit an inside the park home run during which the outfielder was attacked by a dog. Oh my God. He's playing chess. This is good. What happened to the outfielder?

Did he, is he okay? That included in the story? I tried to find out. He was attacked by a dog. He was attacked by a dog and he ended inside the park. They were like, play it as it lies. Sorry, Mr. Gilmour, take a shot. Release the hound.

Yeah, it's like straight out of gladiator with the, like, tigers. There's tigers in the outfield. That's why they're the tigers. Mike Vrable has that up his sleeve in case things get close at the end of the Super Bowl He's got a Doberman sitting in a cage under the blue tent ready to go I don't think that's the funniest thing on Wikipedia, but I laughed the harness at it It's in by the park on because the dog was attacked It just counted it straight out of like the sand lot

It's in the record book How do you mark that down and like, you know the books where you take score or whatever of a baseball game? Like dog attack centerfielder. I can't believe there's no redo. Defensive error. Oh, God. Before we move on, I've been wanting to ask you guys, did you guys watch this Taipei one-on-one climb by Alex Honnold? I actually have somehow not yet, but I am going to.

The Honnold's, sorry if I'm saying his name wrong, but he is infiltrated by algorithm on. on Instagram, I'm seeing just constant like free solo, these people just doing the most insane climbing I've ever seen it. It makes me incredibly stressed out. I can't believe people watch that. I was with some people that were desperately wanted to watch it on Friday night and we're on Netflix.

The thing was on Netflix, yeah. And I was like, so, you know, if he falls and dies, what happens to our show? All right. And then, and I add, oh, what, like, I'm the only one thinking it? Like, what if he could follow? Are they gonna like, follow him down?

Like, what, did they have a plan? there and a case he fell. There was a 10 second delay is what I was told by friends, not anyone at work. And they were like, there's 10 second delay. So if that thing goes black like the Sopranos, you know what happened. And I was like, oh shit. But I then woke up the next day and hear about it. So I assume he's alive. And it was delayed, right? Because of weather. Right. It was windy up there. Like there was video of him outside on like a thousand feet high, just yucking it up to the people inside. And it's windy. And he's just like hanging out there, not holding on with any hand.

Like he just no handing it. I'm just like, I can't. I can't. Should we recreate this at the combine? Or while we're in LA, just climb like a 12 foot fence or something? That would be too scary.

And then you have to do the thing that he did where he went no hands at one point. Where he was just like balanced. Like his legs were in there. And he was just like all abstract arms out. Just hanging over like 1500 feet high. The fact that he got to the top and just like pulled out his phone and took a selfie. I'm like, I don't know why.

But the idea that his just like phone was just in his pocket. It's so weird to me. 100%. Just like clanging around. He was only paid a million dollars to do that. Oh, really? Yeah. Like that guy truly loves him to the love of the game.

I don't know anything about climbing, but I did, again, it infiltrated my algorithm. Some of the other stuff that he's done is like so much harder. To me, that felt like it was probably a walk in the park for him. Like Millie Bobby Brown probably got $20 million to do the electric state, and he got $1 million to climb that. He would have done it for free.

I was going to say he's like, oh, he does the shit. Every day as a hot, like, it's his hobby. It's like, I'm doing this already. I watched one, and climbers probably know about this. It's like really famous, but it was, it's called. Oh, shit. It's got like a funny name, but it's basically like just this giant rock with a,

what looks like a sheer face. Just, it's like a rock got cut in half, like a giant boulder from the like Ice Age got cut in half. And he's climbing that shit and holding on with just the little dippy top. Like it's insane. that he could do this stuff. So to me, I'm like, I watch in the type A one-on-one thing.

I'm like, he has all these handles. He can grab stuff. This is easy for him. Some of the shit that they're doing. What's what I was thinking to? Is these, these free solo people,

it's crazy what they do. Wonder how big his hands are. Do we know? See, giant hands. He's got, I think he's got, well,

I mean, the thing is, which is that they claim that he doesn't have any sensation in the fear section. Yeah, he has no fear. I don't know if that's,

I don't know if that's, to have like 10 inch hands. He couldn't be, can he pick it out there? It wouldn't work. Yeah, no. I feel like he's, yeah, he's kind of,

this is me not knowing anything about rock climbing, but he's kind of like the Michael Phelps version of rock climbers where he's got like really long arms. He's super flexible, super strong hands. His brain is perfectly designed.

Right, that too, yeah. Boomer's not drinking enough water. Holy shit. This is why I wanted to do the mailbag. I can't believe how many people emailed in. So we were joking that boomers don't drink water. my parents, your parents,

no one's parents who listen to the show drink fucking water. It's a lot of thing. I can't even go through all of them. We got emails, people's grandfathers

were to be chopping wood and a hundred degree heat have thermoses of hot coffee. I got emails about dads running half marathons, no water before, during, or after the race.

What the hell? I can't even mention them all. Oh, my God. But I wanted to mention a few, starting with Dustin. Dibone. breakfast is berries with protein spinach smoothie for breakfast sorry protein powder

Dustin writes I recently went to my dad's house and his doctor his doctor told him to drink water so my dad's drinking water and it's this like brown water and he's like dad there's something wrong with the sink like the water like you need to get this checked out and his dad's like no no no it's fine just the water's so boring by itself I mixed it with Pepsi

God Pepsi's aren't mostly water. So you could just have Pepsi, I guess. It's like a beer is 95% water. It's like, it's just so funny. It's such a funny thing. It's like, it doesn't taste good. I'm not going to drink it. Dude, this is my dad. My dad's like, but it, I have, I like the taste of water.

Dude, I, water has no taste. Tom, so this one's from Tom. Breakfast was an ice coffee, yogurt green smoothie. Tom says, I once golf with my 65 year old father while we were vacationing in Palm Springs. it was 110 degrees at 9 a.m. This is why so many people die on the golf course. Yes. It is. Tom says at the turn,

nine holes in, he says, I took our water bottles and refilled them because I drank four water bottles on the front nine. Yeah, you just sweat it all out. Yeah, I come out of the clubhouse

with four more bottles of water. My dad comes out with a single can of Coca-Cola. Stug. Shot a 74. Close. He shot a 78. Oh. The dad shot of 78.

The son worried about him drinking water shot at 98. Dad drank no water. Just 18 holes. Built different. The funny thing about that is I feel like that that sounds like Gen Z would do is not drink water because it doesn't taste good. You know what I mean?

Right. It's very snowflake. Yes, it's like the instant gratification. Everything needs to be good and great and I need to be entertained and everything needs to taste good. It's hilarious that these old funny deadies like don't eat water. Is it something to do with the quality? Is it something to do with the quality of the water?

water these growing up in the 60s and 50s or whatever? I think it's the quality of the water of their parents. It's like when you go to Mexico, it's like you can't drink the water. I think their parents drink just drink tequila. Well, this is the reason beer exists is because they had to like, that you couldn't just drink water you found. So I think it's our parents generation's parents. It was not like, you could just drink water out of the faucet. Like, you know. And I wonder if the messaging around things like soda and juice back then was obviously much more like, this is just water that tastes good. Oh, it's juice from a fruit. Like, oh, whatever, it's a soda.

It's mostly water. Yeah, they didn't know that it was going to rot your teeth out. Yeah, I think like the negative health stuff had not come around. So to them, they were like, what's the big deal? I'm drinking a liquid. It tastes better than water. What's a big deal? Yeah, my grandpa at all times had, you know, like the big plastic leader bottles of pot back in the day. He had like 20 of those at least in his basement of RC Cola. Dude, I mean, the human body is. He's cold and he lived to be like 92.

It's very resilient and what it can endure is crazy. There are people who legitimately, like there's TV shows about people who just like only drink Diet Coke and they're like 85. And they're like I have a grilled cheese and Diet Coke every day. And that's the only thing I eat. And they're like alive and fight of their body figured out a way to survive. This one from Sam, I think. Sam's, I think it captures the Boomer vibe. Sam writes my friend's boomer dad told me he doesn't drink water.

his exact words were water rots wood and rusts metal why would i put that in my body do you know what coca cola does sir they use it to get blood out of things like come on uh he says my friend's boomer dad only drinks bud wiser and whole milk and by the way that's another boomer thing they won't drink other kinds of milk for sure whole milk which is true uh it's like why why would i take the protein and and the vitamins out of my milk. And it's just water. Water rots wood. This logic, I love that logic.

Water rots wood. Why would I put that in my body? So that's the boomer stuff, but then Gen X weighed in and Noel. Noll and bone. Noel writes, I'm Gen X, and when we were young and playing sports, we were told not to swallow water because we would cramp up. Instead, we were told to swish water around at our mouths, and then you had to spit it out.

Just wetts your lips a little. This is a real thing. Right. Yeah. Well, they also told us when we were growing up, did you guys have this when you get a cramp to put your hands above your head? Yes. Is that a real thing?

Does that actually get rid of a cramp? Punch or just makes you feel worse. And then you go into your nose out of your mouth, right? All these fucking old wives tales. I, I think you're like, sit down. If you get a cramp, sit down. Can you email us if you were told to spit water out and switch.

around in your mouth. DK, I vividly remember running the mile in middle school when all the kids at the end had cramps. We were all told hands on your head. I don't think it actually works. It doesn't do anything. The other one, this is from Amelia.

Emilio. My four-year-old has recently become very interested in what I liked when I was a child. Usually like, your favorite color or whatever. But the other day, we were replacing her water bottle for school and she was trying to decide

what water bottle she wanted. And so she asked what kind of water bottle I had as a kid. And suddenly I felt really old as I explained that I just drink sips of water out of a water fountain between glasses. And my daughter was baffled. We're all making out with that water fountain faucet thing. Just like getting right in there.

And then every once in a while, one of them shot like 20 feet across the room. Yeah. It's a big, look, you're an idiot shot in the face. It's kind of an ick, though, when you're high and it goes low. I like to, I like talking about this kind of stuff. Because now I'm like talking to my nephew who just started high school. And I'm like, what is high school like anymore? I don't know.

Do you guys, how many classes do you even have? Because like back in the day, in my high school, we had different classes on different days. So we'd like, I don't remember what they call them block schedule or whatever. So I, so I, yeah, okay, so you guys have the same thing. And now I don't, I think it's very different. They switched it while it was there, yeah. Yeah. I only had three classes a day.

Yeah. And then it was, because that was, that was, you had to carry around too many books. I don't imagine that's the thing anymore that people have to worry about. No, now they just give you iPads in each classroom. I actually have been so, I'm so far removed from school, but don't have kids yet that I actually don't know if Greg is joking or not. No, I do believe, I have a couple friends who are teachers. And in some schools, they will provide you with iPads. And they're like teaching kids how to use computers.

I know somebody who has like a nine-year-old son and he in class gets, I can't remember if it's an iPad or a computer, but they are taught how to use it, which is probably good. I mean, it's something that you have to figure out. At some point, I feel like all the kids nowadays are PhD level computer science compared to what we were. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys, did you guys have wood shop in your high school? I did. I got to do it instead of taking, because I'm so musically challenged, I got to do, there was a shop class that you could make the sets for the school plays.

And it was like a free with power. It was cool. With power tools. Yeah, we had it. I didn't take it, but we had it. It just reminds me of, uh, frigid Michael Sarah. in Superbad. He's like, last day, just making holes, fuck it.

He's just making holes in a fucking piece of wood. Last day, fuck it. It's so good. I do kind of, like, I think Superbad, at least for me, and maybe it is because I was like actually in the exact same generation as Seth Rogan, but Superbad really did capture high school, how high school felt for me. Yeah. And just the, in the chaotic nature of it, how people were,

going around to different classes. The relationships with teachers and kids, that was exactly how it was in my high school class. I think I don't know how universal that is. Yeah, there was like the kid, you can like game the system a little bit. And there was like kids would walk into other classes and the teacher kind of knew that they were friends with a kid in the class. And it was like kind of okay. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, God. Yeah. Making holes. Last day, fuck it. One day else to tell you about my wood shop class and how I had to, I had an audition for the play because there was four. hours of homework. And you just have to do over the entire year, all you to paint some room for four hours. And I didn't do it the whole year. And then he was like, it's just manual labor. And the

teacher, well, it was pretty good deal. Four hours for an entire year. That was all you had to do out of class. And I didn't do it. And he was like, looks at the deal. You literally can't get an A if you don't do it. So here's the deal. If you try out for the play, I'll give you an A. And I can't sing. And I can't sing. And I had a addition for singing with like the leads. And I was like, la, la, la, la. And they're like, okay, cool, give me your. give me a different pitch and I'm sitting there like okay but like a like a la la la la I don't know what pitch me different key and I'm like la la la and I'm like sitting here with literally the best actors in the school and they laughed me out of the room oh that's a that's a core memory right then they's like

a humiliation ritual then then they cast me in a non-speaking role of course as the thing you didn't paint as the yeah exactly what it this is a good prompt what is the most embarrassing moment from high school for you, Craig. Or it doesn't have to be high school. I have a very vivid memory of when I was in middle school. We went on a field trip somewhere and I was leaning over. I think we were at an aquarium or something. I was leaning over looking down at something and I leaned my shirt into some like bird shit.

And so I had shit on my shirt. And I very vividly remember turning around and it was like the classic cliche, someone saw told their friends. And then pretty soon there was a circle of people. people around me, like pointing and laughing. I just like, it was the most cliche, classic, just everyone laugh at you thing. I was like, I just wanted my friend to help me. And then he turned it into like a whole thing where everyone was just like pointing and laughing.

And that's why since that day, you've been bird shit Kelly. Yeah, that's why they called me bird shit. Can you guys email us at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com the most embarrassing thing that happened to you in school? Bird shit. Kelly would be the most embarrassing moment of your good nickname. shit Kelly I'll go with that I think he played for

Mysterious Walker on the San Francisco Seals Bird shit Kelly All right This is important We have to get serious guys Craig asked about buttons Button up button down

Oh right Matt writes in First of all breakfast Was a Dunkin $5 meal deal With a bacon egg and cheese Wake up wrap That sounds good The wake up wraps are good

No free ads I don't think I've ever been to Dunkin' Donuts by the way It's the most West Coast thing You've ever said Yeah I know Well, that's where I live. Matt said,

that's where I've always lived. Let you know. Craig, I like, You're Midwest long enough to see. Every time high fits gets mad at us about the time zone thing. It's like, oh, we live here.

We live here. This is our reality. That's why I have two thirds of the show lives here. I know. Not two thirds of the listeners. All right, Matt, Craig asked about,

do you call it a button up or button down? This one blew mine. He said, I'm sure you've got a million emails about this, which can confirm we did. button up button down it's actually about the collar oh okay button ups have no buttons on the collar button downs have buttons on the collar the collar is the part being button down oh so for a nicer shirt

like a nice dressier shirt is the collar is button down which kind of blew my mind wait there's there's some shirts that don't have a button at the top yeah think about like a like a regular polo like that doesn't have like a polo makes sense yeah okay but that one I would argue your flannel doesn't button the collar to the collar to the collar to the shirt I get at look at my shirt right now this would be a button up because you can't button down the collar okay I think no I was confused I thought you meant the top there was no top button but I didn't understand now it's the collar it's an actual button in the collar yeah interesting yeah so more more importantly though this is from Anna Emma I love not Googling something waiting for an email to tell me it's actually way better

quietly one of the I want to hear from the experts in our field in the their field. Anna writes, this is why I like the email, our email account. Because I don't care how you guys react. I was just sitting like scrolling like, what the fuck?

Because Craig asked, talked about buttons and we got this. Anna writes, button up, button down. Did you know men and women's shirts of buttons on holes on different sides of the shirt? Don't. Yeah.

That makes sense. And also doesn't the zipper on women's clothes go on the other side? Probably. Because Anna writes, check your significant other's clothes like there's buttons. are on different sides. And I think the answer is whatever. Is that right?

That's wild. Middle England fashion, rich people, posh, making fashion trends, whatever. The idea was that men would button their own coats because they're men, but women would be having it done by like a maiden or someone, like a servant. So it was on the other side. Oh, interesting. But it stuck, which is insane. I didn't realize until, you know, embarrassingly recently that people put belts on different

ways depending on it to like left or right handed. This is the sock conversation all over. Yeah. Like I put my, I'm left handed. I put the belt on the opposite of most people and I didn't realize that. Right. So you're putting it in,

you're putting it in on the right, starting on the right. Yeah, I go. Next time I see you in person, I'm a left guy. I'm going to walk in. I'm just going to steer directly at your belt buckle.

Wow, that's wild. That's true. So tall. It's just high level. It's like how in the southern hemisphere, the toilet water spins the other way. That's right.

I got to get down there. Okay, Vegas. We asked for emails about Vegas. Oh, right. So the most Vegas thing. I'm redacting this guy's name. Not because it's actually the least cool story that's ever been redacted from Vegas,

but he says, I moved to Vegas in 2019. And during our first Christmas in town, a group of Christmas carolers stopped by her house. They finished their songs. I closed the door. My wife looks at me and says, did you see who that was? And I'm like, no.

She's like, that was carrot top. Nice. He's caroling. Carrotop was there with five or six other people. Turns out his goddaughter lived near them and he was over celebrating the holiday. And fast forward seven years later, they're actually become good friends

with Karatop via their neighbor. He says he's a really nice guy, very funny, takes great care of people around him. Wow. Endorsement for Karatop. Maybe we'll go see Karatop now. Maybe we got it. Maybe we got it.

Come on the show. Dude, moving to Vegas in 2019 just made me think about Vegas in the pandemic. There needs to be a movie about like what happened in Vegas during the pandemic. I think the same stuff that I've been all did not in the pandemic people just kept going to hotels I want to know about like the four people who secretly didn't leave

and lived there for a year like no one's here don't show up and they're having the time of their life this trip yeah that'd be cool okay wait this is just from Dbone here Dbone breakfast was 32 ounces of water protein shake vitamin gummies tea with milk and honey it's not a boomer yeah no 32 ounces of water start the day not a boomer that's more than high his dad has had all year.

That's true. That's true. D-Bone writes, I have a personal favorite ask. I know you guys have a ton of bits. Almost all of which are fantastic. The Bougar eating one. Almost. I've come to vomiting while driving.

Yeah, that was tough. There are two things that we didn't do it, by the way. We just gave people the anonymous forum to explain themselves. I was not. I felt nauseous, actually. It was a mistake. It was gross. It was a mistake.

DeBone just does a favor. He says, two things that make me actually laugh out loud every time they happen, which is Craig saying, Phil? Phil? Phil. Conters? And then the other one's Craig saying, big time froze.

Kaywell Williams, the Womodoonzee. Yeah. Kewil Williams, big time. How many throws does you have? A weaven. To Womadooze. And DeBone just wants us to say it more. Okay.

Sure. And that's also the Stroud. I kind of want to be Stroud, but yeah. We haven't done a lot of it. Coleridge Bernard until he stops turning the ball over. He's Coleridge Bernard. I know. I feel like we're very close to just becoming a 1990s radio show

with a bunch of cheesy sound drops. Yeah. Where it's like, whoa, flow, flow, whoa, whoa. Poh, pooh, pooh, pow, proud, trout, we got to get a soundboard. Everybody gets one. I think, no. No, those are super annoying.

Yeah. Okay. And those would be used technology. Okay One here from I'm gonna say from M M bone So M wrote about her daughter

And dealing with all the other moms And the Girl Scouts I was talking about how I think Girl Scout cookies are Overrated in a scam So M writes My breakfast was a chocolate protein bar And a cup of strawberries Longtime listener

Nice I finally felt compelled to email as the mom Of a former Girl Scout You've never said anything more true than the Girl Scout cookies are a pyramid scheme. I mean, that's true. M writes, my daughter was a Girl Scout, Daisy and Brownie for four years and I hated every second of it. And M. writes, there are many fuck things about the Girl Scouts organization, including forcing parent volunteers to pay money to register as members in order to chaperon events or drive

carpools to events, which I guess you have to pay money to carpool, which is crazy. But cookies season tops the list. The cookies sold for five or six bucks per box. The troop only receives 85 cents per box sold. The rest goes to various levels of the aforementioned pyramid scheme, including the National Council, the local organizing chapter, funding for maintenance of Girl Scout cookies facilities, well, sorry, just Girl Scout facilities, and then such as campsites, which the troops then have to pay to use. The selling season, which is wild, the selling season kicks off in mid-December the midst of a flurry of holiday activities and winter break from and orders are due in January when everyone's clinging to their New Year's diet resolutions by an absolute thread.

And when I asked if I could just donate money directly to the troop, so the full power of my money would go to the troop and not 85 cents to the troop and not the pyramid. I was told by the troop leader that I didn't understand the point. And my daughter wouldn't learn anything that way. We were also required to participate in cookie booths, but of course those occurred in February in a D.C. suburb. and one of the genius locations we were stuck with in February of Washington, D.C., was the entrance to the neighborhood pool. A lot of foot traffic. Yeah.

In the dock that I watched, they said they got a dollar in 10 cents per box sold, so I don't know if that number has gone up, or at least where the dock was set. It's also, like, one thing that the dog didn't touch on that I find is really funny about Girl Scouts. It's like the infighting and, like, finding the right spot to, like, set up your camp to sell the cookies. like a huge territorial battle of like it's like straight out of the wire you're like who gets to be like what corner what corner are we on yeah price of the brick going on yeah it's like no the ralphs on bundy is the spot all right and we own that spot lady i find they have like stash houses where they keep all their extra cookies and stuff like got to move to stash we didn't rob by other girls scouts

dude the wire for girl scouts is really oh i kind of want i want to watch that they should make that show yeah they should do s and l dude That's so good. And then I'm pretty sure. So don't you, isn't it like your taxes where it's like, you have to buy the amount of cookies that you think you're going to sell?

And then if you don't, you have to eat that cost. So you're like, oh, I want to sell, literally. Yeah, I have to sell 2,000 boxes of cookies. So you pay for them up front.

You buy the 2,000 boxes, like the parents buy them. And then it's on the family to sell them for a profit so that you can recoup the money that you spent, I believe. I don't know. I'll ask.

That makes sense. So then if you're like 700 boxes in the hole, and it's like the season's over and nobody wants cookies anymore you just have to fucking again, this is like straight out of the wire it's like if you get robbed that's on you buddy

dude it's like you got the smores it's like yellow tops you're gonna have to come up with 50 grand bitch WMDs WMDs oh my God that is that is hilarious

God dude that's wild please email us if you've experienced the Girl Scouts and Craig Sam who's the who's the

like malevolent leader of the Girl Scouts who's up there just in their palace. I should know this. I have a close friend who used to work for like the corporate office of the Just wearing coats made out of Dalmatian. Bonnie Barzikowski and National Board President Noreen Khan. Okay. A 30 member national board of directors.

How many people are usually on a board of directors? 30 feels high. I don't know. Feels almost like it does feel high though. It's a co-op. Whatever. I can quote the wire more than any show combined. Okay.

It's so funny because there are, even the way that they set up the tables, like I, the one I'm picturing is at a grocery store near my house. And they have like lookouts trying to get people and then they run, you know, they're like a courier almost like, okay, I'm going to go get you your cookies. It's so funny. Give me the money. No, no, no, I can't take the money and the cookies at the same time. You got to go down there for the house.

Can you just give me some? some cookies? No, you gotta go over that. No, no, no. Can't. It's separate. It's so fucking funny. Oh, my God. And they're even brick shaped. The fucking boxes are an exact size of a brick. Oh, my God. Oh, God. They wrap them in like saran wrap.

Uh, okay. There's more emails here. We probably should get out of here. I'm going to just, you have to give an advice to someone named Courtney Craig because Long story short, Courtney's never seen Lord of the Rings. And she gets made fun of it at work. And I guess they'll listen to Ring our Pods. And her justification for like five years has been. Well, Craig hasn't seen Lord of the Rings.

He makes the rewatchables. That's good. And they were like, okay, I guess Craig's seen a lot of movies. So she's like, Craig, should I hold out or should I watch them? No, Courtney, what you should say is, sure, Craig watched, Craig watched the Lord of the Rings, but you know who hasn't seen them? Bill Simmons and he hosts the rewatchables.

Oh, man. Hold strong, Courtney. Don't let them bully you. That's so... You liked them. Shut up. No, they're really good. It's, uh, I, I think you'll like them if you watch them, but I understand.

You know what? People are busy. Sometimes you just don't watch a movie and then it becomes a thing that you just are refusing to watch it forever because people keep telling you to watch it. He just won't do it. It's the only one he just hasn't seen and it's just too dug in. Yeah. So Courtney Hold Strong.

You know what? It's fine. Say Bill Simmons hasn't watched through the Lord of the Rings and And that'll great you a couple more years. D.K., speaking of, have you watched Transformers yet? No. We're going to have to do this in LA. You have a week.

You have a week. Spotify's office is a big theater. We should watch it in there. Oh, that's a good idea. Well, we're there. That would be a good rewatchable. Would it be? We'll fast forward the Megan Fox scene because we'll have wives.

So it's, you know, we can't. Would it be weird to say I might have already seen it a long time ago? I just don't really remember it. You would have remembered it if you said. I do. actually do remember Megan Fox a little bit from that movie. I don't know if I watched it

or if I was just at Mr. Skin. Just clip surfing. Just YouTube the scenes probably what happened. The end of that with the Optimus Prime it's like the Lincoln Park like, what I've done? I used that on the DK's.

I know. I had that sent to me by a lot of people. I don't think it did very well. I think people thought it was weird. Because they're like, what is this? There was the Cloist box thing with the FBI. The FBI's here?

Yeah, I think that. I dropped that. I was like, hey guys, I made this and everyone was like, okay, cool, cool. We'll put that right in the refrigerator. You know what? You know how we ask people to send us

like drinks that people don't drink anymore, like four logos? You know what popped into my head just now thinking about, people back in the day, like 100 years ago, used to drink ether. Like, that doesn't seem like it's good for you.

You would get like ether cocktails in like the roaring 20s. That was a thing. Ether? I guess alcohol, technically, is poison as well, but that seems like not very healthy. Like I remember watching the movie Babylon and Toby McGuire's is like fucked up rich guy who has this giant house that like a lot of crazy shit's going on

and they're drinking ether cocktails and it was a thing. I mean go back to go back far enough and they were prescribing heroin, you know, to people and cocaine and stuff. So yeah. Again, people were built it back then. Yeah. So let us know if you've, uh, if you're drinking ether still. Yeah, let us know if you do ether.

What are the other ones? I want the most embarrassing moment of your life. Yeah, we're expanding to life or just high school? High school, growing up. High school or middle? I feel like you're going to be from that. Yeah, actually, embarrassing moment. Actually, I'll take anything.

Just, you know, I don't want like a, you know, a midlife crisis. Take it from bird shit, Kelly. Yeah, bird shit Kelly. I want the most embarrassing thing that's ever happened to you. It's just seared into my brain. That moment is seared into my brain. It happened 30 something years ago. Yeah.

Okay. I'll never forget it. People point in the last. for a band, the geese bump, geese did SNL after we talked about. I, dude, it's like, uh, what's, after we did that episode? What is it? The Bader Meinhauf thing? I've seen so much from geese now over the last two weeks.

It's crazy. Have you listened to them at all? No, not yet, but I will. Okay. I've been busy. Also, look, it's Lord of the Rings, geese. It's hard to get to it. Geese.

Right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you everyone for listening. Emails at Rianfantantasyfoolball. at gmail.com. I want to know about, yeah,

most embarrassing than it's ever happened to you. And boomers, yeah, I'll take more like boomers done trick and water. Just,

yeah, weird drinks you used to do in high school, whatever it is. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos.

Thank you, Kha. Thank you, everyone for listening. Yeah, just DK's draft guy. Go check it out at the ringer.

dot com, mock draft, big board. And yeah, we cover the whole offseason since the Super Bowl, obviously,

but also the whole offseason and everything to stick with us and literally all year. So thank you Lord. Lord. Thank you, Calvin Harris.

I was trying to think of a band that has something to do with Ether. And I was like, for some reason, Calvin Harris came into my head as someone who might have a song called Ether. I think you meant Nas. Nas? He has a song name, Ether. It's like, yeah, Ether JZ. That's like, right? That makes sense.

Am I having a stroke? Yeah. I don't know. That's funny that you just kind of randomly associated Calvin Harris. with ether. I don't know. I think you definitely met Nas. That's the Jay-Z disc from like- There's a huge difference between

Naz and Calvin Harris. Oh, I actually, I always mix up Calvin Harris and he looks like Nas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does he have a song? Oh, I just Googled Calvin Harris Ether and it came up with something he did on the Ethereum blockchain. Thanks, Gemini. Yeah, there's an ether

is a disc track by a Nas from his 2001 album Stomatic. Yes. So you were right, High Fitz, good job. Blind squirrel. Didn't come to my mind, though. You must have been thinking of we found love. The ether's mean.

Did you guys see the video of the Hamnet rap party where they did the Rihanna song? That was so genuine and happy. That just filled my heart with joy. And it was like everybody's still in full costume and they shot it with like their professional film cameras. So it looked like the movie. It was very bizarre. I should get into the movies. That looked like a lot of fun.

Is it pretty easy to get into the movies? Yeah, you could have probably been an extra maybe. Okay. Why not? We're at Netflix now. Make some calls. Yeah, you could have been a guy in the 1600s hanging out. Oh, yeah, easily.

Done. I'm the town drunk. Sister-in-law's, where you just met, Craig, my sister-in-law's father lives in Georgia, and he just kept tech. He just would text updates. He's like, I'm going to be in the Marvel movie. Have you heard of Avengers? And, like, because, you know, they filmed him in Georgia and they just needed like hundreds of extras.

And he was just like, I made it. I thought you're going to say Matthew Barry because he was actually in the movie I was in a Fast and Furious movie Really? Yeah

Do you have a line? What the fuck are you talking about? I was an extra in a fast and furious movie I'm making sure which one it was He doesn't remember which one I think it was Furious 7 Get the fuck out

He doesn't even know which one Hold on Have you ever told Bill that you're in Furious 7 But like I'm not actually in it. Like I... You're in it or not? There was this...

They needed people to come to Manhattan as like cars were driving down the street and they just needed people there with their phones out being like, holy shit. And I'm one of the guys. I don't even know if you could see me in the movie.

Like I'm probably just like... You don't even know. Craig didn't checked. I have not checked. I have not checked. I don't even know if they use the scene. I have no idea. Craig, I'm going to have an opportunity right now

because you've hit this for 10 years. You know whether you're in the movie. I don't. I swear in my life. I don't. DK, do you believe him? I swear on my... It's like Aaron Glenn.

Like, no, I just decided three weeks later to fire. What are you talking? You never checked? I swear on my parents' life. No, because we filmed it. It probably came out like two years after we filmed it. I completely forgot.

Who knows if they even used the scene or the angle? Who knows? He says, who knows? Who knows if they ever used it? We're going to have to watch this as the Transformers. We're in L.A. We're going to watch the Sea of Craig's in Fast and Furious 7. I believe because that movie came out in 2015,

and I spent a summer in New York in 20. Furious 7 is the one with the ending where it's the, that one. Paul Walker. Family. It was either that one or a fast eight, Fate of the Furious. I'm not sure. I don't know. This is so good. I can't, why have you hit this?

Craig can't be bothered to figure out what movie he's in. It was like a fake actor. Like I have been an extra in real things where I got paid and you're like on set and I'm in costume and you're like actually. Like what? You've never told us this. Tell us now. I was in some Emily Dickinson movie that shot in upstate New York that Molly Shannon was in as an extra. That was some indie film.

What else? He doesn't know the name of that movie either. It's a different time. He doesn't know the names of the movies he's in, either of them. I'm not in the focus movie. Craig doesn't know the names of the movies. I actually think I am. I'm kind of dancing.

in that movie near Mully Shannon, so I might have been in a little bit. I don't know. How is this never? I actually can't. This is really funny. Do you know the names of any of the movies you've been in? I don't think so. Again, I'm not in any movies, though.

I was in, I was an extra in some TV show where I was like a guy coming home from war. I was on a train. You were coming home from war? Something like a leaving war. Do you remember which war? I don't know. What was it? It was an ad?

It was a commercial? No, it was a TV show. What war? I don't know. What year was it? It was, it was, World War I'm not sure. I don't know. What war it is.

It was one of the world war. Craig is a method actor. Every two years we'll be watching a football game. The first time he did this, we're watching a football game. This is a nationwide commercial. And I do the chicken parm tastes so good. And Craig's like, I was in a nationwide commercial once. And I'm like, what?

And it's like every two years, there's like a half court shot. He's like, yeah, I hit a half court shot once. And I was like, what? And he's like, yeah, I want to pick up truck. Like he just every two years, he's like, yeah, I was in Fast 7. The movie is called Wild Night with Emily. and it was directed by Madeline Olnick, who is like an indie director,

who I think had a couple decent movies at festivals. But the movie's called Wild Night with Emily, if you must know. And it premiered up South by Southwest. We might watch Fast 7 now before we watch Transformers. You're not going to find me. I guarantee you'll not see me. Okay.

Challenge to the listeners. How do you know? You never seen it. In this goddamn movie. You can't guarantee me shit, pal. Some blurry shot of parts speeding by, and there's people in the background. Dude, I've been watching Madman

and on a prime video, there's like this ad that plays every time of Catlin Stark isn't, you know when you see an ad like a hundred times you still don't know what the show is called? And it's like Catlin Stark and the line is just,

I want you to find him and bring him to be alive. Like I want the listeners to, I please find someone find Craig in Fast 7 or Fast 8, whatever it was. Or Wild Knights of Emily. Any other movies that we should be searching?

I have no idea what that TV show is called. You're coming home from war. Let's piece it together. Band of brothers. I could ask my friend, Sam, he would know because we used to do all this shit together early in the day. And when we were young in L.A., we used to be extras in TV shows and movies and stuff.

I don't know. Can you give me any? Like, did they give you any instructions on what you're supposed to do? I think there was only one season of it. Was it a PBS show? I think it was on Hulu. Hulu? That's tough.

Okay. I'll keep thinking. I was on a game show once. You were on a train coming on for war? I don't know the name of the game show. Jesus Christ. What the fuck? What the fuck is wrong with you?

What did you do on the game show? I was a contestant on it. No, I know, but what did they ask you to do? The game, it was me and two other people, and we were on a team and we were at a desk. Did you have to spin a big wheel? It was trivia. Was the wheel vertical or horizontal?

And the longer it took to answer the trivia question, the less money you would make, but you had to come to a consensus before you could hit the button. So it was like this battle to be like, how quickly can one person convince their team that they know the answer. And I remember, I think I won like $400 and I didn't get it in the mail for like eight months. Those fuckers.

Email us at ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. Other things like this. Craig, do you know the name of anything you're in? Any commercial. Any number and you win. Any number. I don't know. Greg is like the forest gump of.

like shows and movies actors. I was like 22. We're all just trying to do anything. In the background just waving. Make money. I don't know. This is great. You were just like,

I was just blind auditioning to be an extra in like anything. And they said yes, you show up, you wear what they want you to wear. You get like $200. That was how it went. And then it came out like a year later.

You had no idea. Yeah. God, that's good. I liked that this all started with D.K. is like, should I be in the movies? And Greg's like,

yeah, And I thought he was kidding. It's not that hard to be an extra in things. Yeah. Clearly. All right. That's really funny. All right.

Goodbye, everyone.