The Ringer NFL Show - Mock Draft Oscars, All 32 First-Round Picks, and Heifetz's Birthday Revelations

Episode Date: March 19, 2026

The Dannys run the Mock Draft Oscars, alternating all 32 first-round picks while arguing through Jeremiyah Love, Sonny Styles, and the toughest calls at the top of the board. It’s draft philosophy, chaos, and full March football-brain energy. (00:00) Intro (02:09) Mock Draft Oscars (03:57) Picks 1-8 (25:06) Picks 9-16 (49:01) Picks 17-24 (01:07:02) Picks 25-32 (01:27:57) Emails (01:31:06) Happy birthday, Heifetz! Discord link: https://discord.gg/Ge8bbYHrau Vote for Tyler Tanaguchi: https://nurse.org/articles/mariners-nurse-night/#nom Join our March Madness Bracket Challenge: https://fantasy.espn.com/games/tournament-challenge-bracket-2026/group?id=e3c76fdc-8f58-4fe0-9dbe-5154ff72e0b4 Check out The Ringer’s 2026 NFL Draft Guide: https://theringer.com/nfl-draft/2026/big-board#content Email us! [e-mail] Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Austin Gayle, Abou Kamara, Carlos Chiriboga, and Cameron Dinwiddie Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy. Wait, everyone's recording, right? Yes. Keep that in. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, aka the Ringer NFL Draft Show. My name is Danny Hifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck,

and they're already sick of me, even though we haven't started the show. Just wait. We are doing the mock draft Oscars where Dek and I are going to alternate picks and do an entire mock draft. And Craig, who was at the Oscars on Sunday, is going to be our Conan O'Brien

and literally play us off with music if either of us drone on too long. That's right. I don't think Conan was actually playing people off, but for the first. For the purposes of this show, he was, and I will be doing that. I don't know if you guys saw the song Golden, which is the original song from Kup Stephen Hunter's one best original song.

And they got played off in a brutal manner. The lead singer girl, E.J. came on. She had like a very nice speech. And then some other dude tried to speak and they just blasted them off the music because earlier on in the broadcast when they had extra time, they let people bulldoze through the music where they kept talking through the music. They turn the music back down. And so now everybody thought, great.

If I keep talking, I can power through the music. Because at the end, they were running out of time. Even though these awards are technically more buzzy, they just completely neutered the golden guy. You do have to set the tone early. Yeah. Well, the other crazy thing was they actually dropped the mic. They literally let people bulldozed through it early.

They faked you out. You need to set the tone early. But the other thing is, Craig, you were in person. They cut this on the broadcast. But I don't think they just played the music on that guy. The mic would lower in time. this ground, like automatic. They would pull the mic stand up and down into the surf in the ground. Wow. Yeah. And for the music acts, and they pulled the microphone into the

ground on the guy. They didn't just play music. They lowered the mic away from him while he was talking. And Conan came out and was like, you can't lower a mic on a man while he's trying while he's talking. And he's like, that was hilarious. So if you're watching us in Spotify or watch us on Netflix just put the episode on while you're leaving your house, Craig also has remotely connected and our microphones will just lower into the ground. That's right. I've also, I've hacked into the mainframe, so I will be controlling the board today. So when when DKR. Highfit starts droning on about some offensive linemen, nobody cares about it, the 21st pick, you're going to hear this song, which is the best copyright-free Oscars-ish music we could find.

Boom. Okay, so, yeah, with that said, by the way, before we begin, one more note, if you're listening to this in the morning on Thursday, you technically have a few more hours to join our March Madness bracket on ESPN. So do that. Go to the link in the description of the episode. Yeah, so on Unfortunately, Hyphitz, I think, I think Hyfitz accidentally created a new bracket for this year, but then didn't realize that there was one from last year that ESPN-automatically renewed. And I didn't know. I thought I'd have to activate it.

And I just made a new group. And I guess both groups are live. So we have like half the people in one and half in the other. And I'm sorry. And I should have checked. And also, why does it automatically renew? Yeah. It's more like 80-20.

One is called Ringer Fantasy Football Show. That's got over 3,000 people. You could join that. One's called Ringer NFL Draft Show Bracket Challenge. That only has 700 people. Better odds to win. Yeah. Maybe do one in each.

We will send merch to the highest score of both, of the combined or maybe both. Sure. Yeah. So join that link in the episode description. And with that said, yeah, so we're going to do mock draft Oscars. We're going to go through all 32 picks. You guys are going to alternate picks. Like you're the GMs of 16 teams each.

And I'm even. And I'm going to moderate. D.K's even. Hyphets is odd. So just like real life. Well, get things started with a technical. category. This is like sound mixing, which they've gotten rid of

at the Academy Awards. We're going to start the Raiders, number one overall pick. Everybody knows they're taken for Dana Mendoza. So I'm just going to get, we don't need a speech behind that. We know he's going number one. And I think we can officially start with number two, which, as we said before, D.K. is even. So D.K.,

you're on the clock. New York Jets, second pick in the mock draft. Oscars. Go. All right, I'm going to go with the chalky pick here. Arvel Rees, linebacker out of Ohio State. Very versatile. You can play them at a linebacker. You can play them off the edge. I think what the Jets did in Free Agency is hedge at a lot of positions. They basically signed 12 different guys. And now they don't have, they don't like basically

not pigeonholed into drafting one position or one guy. But I still kind of like the, or I still really like the versatility that Orville Reese brings. Hi Fitz, what say you? Yeah, I think you're dead right. The Jets have the second pick and they have the 16th pick from the Colts from the Sauce Gardner trade. And yeah, it's like they didn't have an reception last year. Frankly, Aaron Glenn is probably going to get fired on the Jets if they don't have a better defense. You take Arvelry's here and then you get a receiver behind Garrett Wilson later and it's, you can't do the other words. Do you want me to name all the free agents the jet signed this this offseason? Devontre sweat. Ah, David Animana. Kingsley-Henigbarae,

DeMario Davis, Joseph aside. Ashonwright. Bucket, McAvinspatrick. Jane Belton. All right. We're back from commercial. I want a literal hook. Big gold, huh? I'm like, oh. Okay. I don't care about the Jets. Moving on, I don't care for Job. Moving on to the third pick, Danny Hyvitz, Arizona Cardinals on the clock.

Yeah, Cardinals are full rebuild. I'm giving him Francis Marinoa here, the tackle out of Miami. He actually goes by Cecee. This is actually, because Francis is actually his Americanized name, so he's actually, because he's Samoan. So he actually, it's Fran Cici,

it's like shortened, but he actually, all his family and friends call him Cici, and then it's spelled like Maui Goa, but it's Maui Noah because that's just the Samoan pronunciation. But I'm kind of like, Deacon Curse you think, I don't think the defensive ends here are good enough. Like David Bailey at a Texas tech, I just don't think he's

a good enough run defender for the Cardinals to take him third. I feel like Ruben Bain is a great player, but the arm length, it is an outlier at number three that if you look dumb if he ends up not being good, Will Campbell style. So I think the Cardinals are like, you know, just hit a layup, take Francis Maui Noah at right tackle. You have a Paris Johnson Jr. left tackle. And like, just have

good offensive lines for when the Cardinals take a quarterback in 2027. That's kind of my logic here. It's get on base. I mean, I personally would probably, if I was a GM of the Cardinals, I probably would take the pass rusher, but I totally understand building through the trenches in terms of the offensive line. Whoever ends up being the quarterback of the future will have just a better chance of succeeding long term. They got to fix their run game. Which pass rush would you take for Arizona? Probably would take David Bailey. I think David Bailey, it's interesting because he's kind of being overlooked a little bit because of the Ohio State brothers, Sunny style, and Arvel Reese.

And David Bailey is a very good pass-dresher. Like, he was extremely productive, high energy, creates a lot of havoc off the edge. I don't know, think he's an elite run defender and he's a little light in the pants. But, I mean, these guys aren't getting paid to stop the wrong. That is such a, you can't just say, man, like that's a small dick joke or what?

Lightly, light, the old, not in the crotch. Imagine saying that to his face. Yeah. Hey, David, heard your light in the pants. Imagine you go on a date with the girl, spend a night with her. She goes home next morning with her friends at brunch. How was your date with Craig?

He's a little light in the pants. I mean, it's about as brutal as you can get. That's about as bad as it gets. But that's not what I was saying about him, you know? He's probably super well-endowed. How would I know? But however, his ass is not very big, is what I'm saying. But yeah, to me, it's like, that doesn't matter.

He's going to bring down the quarterback. That's really what matters with these guys. And so I would have no fear drafting David Bailey at three. And D.K., you have Francis Maui, Noah, ninth on your big board. Is that right? Yeah. where does he compare to somebody like Will Campbell

who went fourth last year in the draft? How good of a tackle is Maui Noah compared to the last few years to you? He is probably right in that same range. I mean, there's some question whether he's going to be a tackle or guard at the NFL level, which is like pretty much exactly what we heard about Will Campbell. He played right tackle primarily. So I think there's,

depending on how you view that, you know, in the current NFL, some people probably don't have a huge difference between left and right tackle anymore because a lot of really good pass rushers come off the right side. But that is sort of traditionally slightly less valuable than a left tackle. And you know what I mean? Like he might be a tag.

He might be a guard at the next level. So I think he's going to face a lot of the similar questions as, as Will Campbell did in terms of overall length, overall foot speed. Is he going to be able to deal with guys off the edge? Super, super explosive guys off the edge. You asked, pal. You asked me the question. I got bored.

But that's good to know that he's kind of in that Will Campbell range. And now he's going earlier than Will Campbell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we bring, can we have like a playoff music for conversations you want to get out of at like a dinner party? That's like a curb your enthusiasm idea. Larry just has music he plays. He just connects to the one of the Bluetooth at every restaurant. He's in.

Okay, let's move on to the number four pick here. D.K. Oh, that's me. Put your, put your Mike Borgonzi hat on. and tell me who the Titans are taking at number four. I want you to do it. I want you to say it. You want me to say what?

You know who I want you to pick. No, I'm not fucking doing it. I'm not doing it. I know everybody wants Jeremiah Love to go to the Titans just because... Is this what you think should happen or what you think will happen? I think there's a pretty strong chance that they do it, but I think it's incredibly stupid if they do it. I'm picking what I think will happen.

We probably should have figured this up for the show. What's the point of doing a mock draft? It's just what you think should happen. I'm doing what I think the teams will do. If you value my opinion, Craig. Well, isn't the whole thing you try to get it as accurate as you can? It depends, man. We're building, you know, building things that could happen.

Okay, fine. If we're going to do it, that's a good way to reference it. It's things that should happen or things that you think will happen. I mean. Yeah, things will happen even if we disagree. Even though I think it's dumb, I guess I'll put Jeremiah, I love here. I just don't think a running back is going to put them over the edge where they want to be. They have such a, their roster has so many holes.

But it's going to be, it's the siren song of this guy's the most talented player at that spot. It's like getting your first Christmas bonus and just buy a Rolex, you know? Right. I will disagree with D.K., because you said it won't get them what they want. It will get them what they want because the underlying thing is it's not about competing. We'll get them what they should want. Selling tickets, and they have K.M. Ward and nobody. You said, Kimmer D.K. is not selling season tickets.

No. They're opening a stadium. If you think a new owner cares about anything more than when they open a stadium, Like, it is such a big project. It takes a decade, and it's the only thing that matters that sets you up to sell the team. There's such stupid reasons. Billions of dollars.

If you ever sell the team, the stadium is the difference in billions of dollars. I will just say this. Bad team. Stay bad. I have an email. I have an email from Joe. Coffee with a cream and an almond granola bar for breakfast. Joe says, I'll do it quick.

I live in Nashville. When the Titans announced the new prices for season tickets, not a single one of my friends who had season tickets was going to keep their season tickets. Then the Titans realized that they weren't selling. any. And so they hired a new person with Robert Sala and maybe an entirely new team, or sorry, a new person, a new team whose entire job was just to entice people to re-up their season tickets. Like they have refurbished their entire season ticket off. I'm telling you, Cam Ward and Jeremiah Love are going to be on giant banners on this stadium in 2027. I mean, I understand what you're

saying. I get it. It's stupid, but that's fine. I'll sound so dumb if they're wrong. If they just take a tackle, I'll feel like an idiot. I mean, I mean, we just saw the Raiders do this. To be clear, the first pick of the draft. The Saints signing Travis A. Chan, E.T.N. from the Jaguars and the chief signing Kenneth Walker from the Seahawks was us seeing NFL teams think Jeremiah Love's not going to fall to seven or eight. So, like, NFL teams clearly think Jeremiah Love's going to be a top six pick. That is part of the reason we're getting confident about this. So it's like, well, who in the top six?

I mean, I put, I did the pick. I think that there's a strong chance this happens. I'm just being very clear. I think it's stupid. Yeah. How much faith would you have in Tennessee's offense this year, D.K., if they don't take Jeremiah Love and they basically start the season with Tony Pollard, Camere D.K., old Calvin Ridley and Elyke Ilec, Iommon, like, if that's the team.

Wondale Robinson, not, how could I forget? Wondell Robinson? Like, how confident are you that that offense can win five or six games? Not very confident, but I also don't think Jeremiah Love is going to add very many wins. You don't think he moves a needle at all? No, we've had this conversation a hundred times. Elite running backs, very good running backs, move the needle for teams that are already really good. I agree. Very good running backs. Don't do jack shit. That is correct. That is mostly correct. However, if Cam Ward ends up being very good, and this is a leap year for him, I think having Jeremiah Love would help a lot. I think that's fair. But I don't think he's going to make it. In their offensive line is not in shambles.

Yeah. Maybe. We've just seen it a million. I don't know. We've seen this a million times. I like it. Anyway, okay, let's move on. Hyfitz is playing us off. We're going to go to the fifth pick in the draft. High Fitz, you are odd, which means you have your New York Giants who won't be getting Jeremiah Love. which means they will be getting who. Oh, my God. And cat just trying to come into my office. You know what my hot take is?

I think we need to get rid of home. I agree. I don't actually know how to use it. Who is that for? Right. What is nobody needs it? My cat is trying to break down my door. That is crazy.

Psycho. Anyway. The only reason why whom exists is so other people can correct you that it's whom, not who. That's the only reason why it exists. A hundred percent. it's almost like the they're there thing where it's like yes it's the wrong thing but don't correct like remember remember in elementary school you go up to your teacher can I go to the bathroom

may you go to the bathroom it's like ugh that's that's what I feel about who whom this is why the boomers hate our generation but I did Craig I corrected you and I was kind of I don't actually know if I corrected you for the correct way to do it and I didn't know if you probably either yeah yeah okay hyvins who are the giants taking I think the giants are going to take sunny styles in the situation I don't know if I agree with it I think they are because in short, I don't think John Harper says he wants to go big at the position, but they re-signed Germain Eleanor at right tackle,

so I kind of don't think they take an offensive line in here. Even though I think they should consider it, I don't think they go defensive line because there's no defensive tackle good enough, and they have Abdul Carter and Brian Burns and Edge, and everyone's team says, well, we'll take the best player available. The truth is most teams freaking don't, which is why we talk out of both sides of her mouth.

A lot of teams say they want best player available, and then they actually kind of limit best player available within the positions we need to hire. And so I think they need sunny styles at lineback, And, um, sorry, my cat, I don't know what's happening out there. I'm really concerned. Do you need to check? But, uh, maybe.

But yeah, I just, I think the giants will take Jeremy, I love if he falls to five. But if not, I think they're happy to take Sunny Stiles and he's just a monster for them. And I'll be how I'll be happy about it. I'm going to make sure my cat's okay. Really? Okay. No. Well, this is good because this gives me a minute to think about who I want to pick for the

freaking Browns. Okay. Sorry, significantly weirder. Cat was sleeping. I have no idea what that was. Did you hear what my door was just rattling? No, did not hear that. You have door open, windy day? What's going on? I don't know what I want to think about it.

Okay. All right. Pull, I don't know. Well, we're now moving on to the sixth pick in the draft here, which is owned by the Cleveland Browns who have one of the worst offensive lines in the league D.K. Will you be going offensive line to protect Deshawn Watson and Shedore Sanders. I don't know, man. They signed a bunch of people in the offseason,

Zion Johnson, Elton Jenkins, Titus Howard, I think they traded for. They have Tevin Jenkins already. So they did enough here where, again, they kind of hedge at all the different positions. I don't feel good about it. If you look at those teams, the Browns took the cast-offs

from the other worst lines in the lead. They took Titus Howard from the Texans. They paid Zion Johnson a guard from the Chargers. They took Tevin Jenkins from when the best. Bears' offensive line sucked, and Elton Jenkins was cut from the Packers. Howard was pretty good, though, wasn't he? Elton Jenkins is good. Titus Howard, he was a guard, and he wants to play right tackle for money, which makes sense. But the Texans didn't want to play him at right tackle. So it's like,

the Browns do need a left tackle. My question, D.K., is, do you think Spencer Fano, the Utah tackle is a left tackle, or is he a guard? Because his arms are shorter than Will Campbell's, but some teams might have him as a tackle. Yeah, it's possible. He played right tackle, too, by the way. He got replaced that left tackle. by a guy Lomu who's going to go quite a bit later, I believe. Caleb Lomu. So are you James, I'm going best player available here. I'm going, well, best player available and with one condition since they took,

they took, sorry, what's his name, Mason Graham last year, who is shorty, short arm, shorty, shorty, McShorterson arms. That's a good point, actually. I'm not going to take Ruben Bain. I'm going to take David Bailey because you don't want to keep betting on outliers. Are you having the issue again? again? What's going on? Do you hear this? No. We can't hear it. Okay, then I'll explain it. Is it a ghost? I actually, I, this is, they're doing construction behind me. Got it. Okay.

If you can't hear it, I don't care. This is so interesting because I feel like the Brown's offense is completely in shambles and their defense isn't bad and they have a lot of like decent pieces that you're somewhat okay with. I mean, they had the defensive rookie of the year last year, Carson Swettinger, but this is a real best player available. This is a Andrew Barry analytics move. They also have, Craig, they also have two first round picks. Yeah. So they can get and they can get some offensive players later. I do think it one thing that you kind of lose sight of during this time of year when we're

doing mock drafts and believe me, every time I do a mock draft, someone's like they don't even have, that's not even a need for them, blah, blah, blah. And then every draft weird stuff happens and teams take players that they just think is the best player. They double up at positions and they're like they strength on a strength, things like that. This happens in every single draft. And there's always a pit that people like that makes no sense. Yeah, there's no way in hell this is going to happen.

Like, dude, have you ever watched the draft? Every year something crazy happens. So I try not to like get too beholden to, quote, unquote, the biggest need for a team when, you know, teams are just going to take the player that they think is going to be the biggest impact player over the long term. Look at how much rosters turn over year in and year out. It's a good point. It depends.

The truth is nobody drafts best player available after round one. Like after the round one ends, it becomes best player available if a crazy talent falls. then they're trying to hire people at positions they need like any other company and then the first round is kind of but the question some teams do it for the first round 32 picks some teams do best player available for the first round grades where they have like 11

and they don't see a difference between the 19th player and the 35th player as much as you think of fuck whatever Craig just straight face I am drunk with power I just heard that let's be honest it's such a powerful tool I know I really

I really don't know what else the Oscars can do because it's so awkward and uncomfortable in the moment every time. But you can't, I mean, you can't just let people talk forever because they will. I don't know. Yeah, you give people an inch. It'll take a mile. It's sad because it's like they've worked their entire life for this two-minute stretch where they can thank everybody and acknowledge their, you know, what they've done. And it's like, yeah, yeah, keep it moving, big guy. And everyone's like, mind's blank.

It's like, they don't know. They're like, oh, and it's like, boom. Yeah. Okay. moving on here. So D.K. took David Bailey, the edge rusher to the Browns, seventh pick here. The Washington commanders are up for Hafeitst here. The commanders only have two picks in the top 140. So this is very important, Hyfitts, what you do right here. Yeah, the second and fourth round of Washington gave to Houston, the Laramie Tunsel trade. So I think in this scenario, I think Washington could go defense, but they signed three edge rushers.

They signed four defensive linemen. If you include Leo Chanel, they send five defensive linemen kind of or a linebacker. I think if Washington, Sunny Stiles is here, they would do that, but the Giants took them. I kind of think if Cardinal Tate falls to Washington, they do that. Maybe they want to go defense, and maybe they would go Rubin Bain. But I think Cardinal Tate to Washington, because Washington's depth chart is Terry McLaurin. And then it looks like Miami's or looks like all these other teams. And frankly, I think all the teams that get the Ohio State receivers won another one because they're like, God, these guys are good and pro. Why not get two?

Terry McLaurin's 31. And then the other guys are like Luke McCaffrey and Diami Brown went back there, and they're like fours and fives. And so I think Cardinal Tate with Jane Daniels, like, they need that to be better. And then Washington kind of could focus everything else on defense. So I would give them Cardinal Tate. DK., does that make sense to you? Yes, I like that. I think pairing him with McLaurin is really interesting.

Makes a ton of sense. You got to put some skill player talent around your receiver talent, particularly around your young quarterback. They cannot have another year like last year where Jane Daniels struggled and was hurt all the time. And they got to put everything around him to succeed this year. So that would make a lot of sense to me. Honestly, the commanders can go any direction. It wouldn't really surprise me. They did kind of what the Jets did,

which was signed a ton of players in free agency, and they don't have to paint themselves into a corner in any particular position. I mean, yeah, the wide receivers in Washington. I mean, it's at the point now where you're like, all right, we know Jaden Daniels is good. Now we have to actually give him people to throw the ball to. Outside of McLaren, Traylon Burks, Luke McCaffrey, De Yami Brown. Their tight ends, they brought in Chigacanquo,

but like it's pretty bleak. So I like that. Carnel Tate. Okay, eighth pick, DK, on the clock, New Orleans Saints. I'm going with Ruben Bain here for edge player from Miami. They do need edge talent. They've lost some guys over the years. They generally speaking, the Saints are a team that likes to invest in the trenches.

Over the last like five, six years, that's kind of been their MO. And I know that he has short arms, but man, he just plays so hard. He's so explosive, so strong. I don't think he in particular, I don't think his arm length is. going to be a huge, huge detriment to him. I think it's maybe something that you see every once a while, but he's still going to be a really good player, a really productive player. So I'm giving him, that to me is a really good value for them. Yeah, you don't want to make a habit of betting on outliers and Rubin-Bain will have basically like the shortest arms of any first rounder ever drafted,

more or less. But I think that it is more important for an offensive tackle than a defensive end, because as you said, DK, the offensive tackle is almost always less athletic unless you're Trent Williams. So you need the buffer. But defensive ends, you're kind of the one playing basketball, so it's better. But Rubin, it's always a weird term to use, but he plays violently. And I know that that's weird,

frankly, it's weird to describe football players as like, violent, but you need to be a violent, you need to play violently to succeed in a defensive end and on the defensive line. And the Saints, I mean, Cam Jordan is 36, whether he comes back or not, Chase Young has been heard a lot. And Carl Granderson, I think, is like 29.

Like, the Saints don't have a lot of defensive end depth. And the Saints could win the division. And they're like one piece away, offense. Saints are a lot like Washington. They need a number two receiver and then all defense. Like the Saints have actually invested a ton in their offense around Shuck. It's like a lot of first run picks, highly paid guys on offense. They need defense and they Saints could easily win the NFC South. Yeah. And the way this mock has gone, Colonel Tate's been a guy that I've kind connected to the Saints. I've connected Jeremiah Love. I think he probably not, if he does fall,

he's not getting past. Although I guess they signed ETN, so that probably changes things now. Travis A-chan. A-chan, sorry. My bad. No, it's going to take us years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyways, this makes sense for the Saints eye thing. But you're right. I mean, again, the Saints wide receivers, dude, after Chris Olive, Devon Vele, Mason Tipton, they have Bub means, Kelvin Austin, Jalen Polk. It's a lot. I'm seriously, the Saints in Washington rosters are oddly similar because they both have

a number one Ohio State receiver in Chris Olive and Terry McLaurin with a bunch of five receivers that are six or seventh round picks or washed out from other teams. And then they actually have a lot of investment in the. offensive line. They have both Washington, New Orleans, that's a first-round pick at left tackle, at right tackle, at a guard. They have a quarterback that they like. They have a running back, like Washington just signed Rashad White, the Saints of Travis H.N.

And they kind of need a number two receiver, and then just half a dozen spots on defense. And I think Cardinal Tate would go to Washington or the Saints. All right, so let's recap. Top eight picks here. I want to stop here because this leads in nicely to the Chiefs at 9, and there's a couple interesting guys available for them. So the top eight picks, if you're watching on Spotify or on Netflix, You can see a little graphic.

It looks like you're watching a real draft. You can see who the top eight picks have been, but I'll run through them. The Raiders at one took Fernando Mendoza. The Jets at two, Arvel Reese from Ohio State. The Cardinals at three took Francis Maui Noah out of Miami to tackle. The Titans took Jeremiah Love, running back out of Notre Dame. The Giants at five took linebacker, Sunny Stiles,

out of Ohio State. The Browns took David Bailey from Texas Tech, the edge rusher. The commanders, Cardinal Tate from Ohio State, the wide receiver, and the Saints just took Ruben Bain, the Eddressor out of Miami. So now we have the ninth pick coming up for High Fits. I'm looking at Caleb Downs, who some people think,

HyFitz you think is maybe the best player in this draft. We have Spencer Fano, a tackle out of Utah. The Chiefs lost their safety. Brian Cook this year, who they had for the last three years, went to the Bengals, and they obviously need offensive line help. What are you doing? So the Chiefs have attacked free agency in a way

where some teams just put everything in one spot and they're going to draft the other. And then the chiefs have invested enough at every spot where they don't need to take any position. The chiefs lost their entire secondary. But then they added guys like, you know, they signed some cornerbacks. They signed some safe. So they could do anything. I think you could take a cornerback year because the chiefs just lost like three cornerbacks in this everything.

I think the chiefs should take a right tackle. I think the chief, so they cut Joanne Taylor, who was their signed, Mr. Jawan, I call him the Beltline Taylor because he was the guy who was always freaking off sides and they cut him and they have Jalen Moore at right tackle who is the Trent Williams backup for the 49ers they signed but the chiefs it's so many weird things it's like left tackle is Josh Simmons he was in and out last year that was a strange situation they have Juan Yeom Morris they have Jalen Moore Patrick Romans is coming off a torn ACL and part of me is like you're missing the force for

the trees really get a take a quarterback take this I'm like take a take an offensive lineman to protect Patrick Walman's torn ACL think about the next decade so I'm going to give them Spencer Fano the tackle to Utah and there There are questions about length and everything, but Daniel Jeremiah at NFL Network made a great point this week, which is the coach at BYU played with Andy Reid at BYU forever ago. Wow. You can't, at the end of the day, football is like anything else? Trust your buddies and what they're saying. You can't underestimate two people kind of knowing each other.

Kind of knowing each other about like, hey, should I hire this 22 year old kid? Yeah, great kid. You're like, all right, my buddy, he says he's a great kid. Don't underestimate that. And I think... Great kid. You know they're saying those exact words. Yeah.

Oh, he's a great kid. And so it's like, frankly, great family, but the Yarm Leng thing is easier to dismiss when Andy reads like, my guy says he's a great kid. Yeah. And so I'm going to give him Spencer Fana.

That's a good little tidbit. Yeah, that's good. Okay. Chiefs at nine. Are you really going to regret protecting Mahomes? Like, you're going to look back on that. Like, there's no way that that's like bad.

No. It's my two cents. I agree. It's also funny. Sometimes this is like the one thing that came into my head is when you have players that have the same

color uniform in college and in the pros for some reason it like works. Except for Caleb Johnson. So yeah. T. Higgins, Clemson to the Bengals. Yeah, was an all timer for that one for me.

I agree. I think it's LSU a little bit. Like it's like yellow purple, Justin Jefferson to purple yellow with the Vikings a little bit. It's more on the helmet. Yeah. Well, the one that I was thinking of that I just made fun of Craig of.

I don't know if you caught it, Craig. But Caleb Johnson, the running back went from Iowa to the Steelers. It did not. It was almost identical uniform. did not work out great yet. But there's time, there's time. Yeah, that's been a disaster.

Mike Evans, A&M to Bucks? Well, that's kind of, kind of. I guess I calmed it a little. I mean, what? They're both like dark red. Come on. No, I think you're right. He's like, well, one's maroon.

All right. Okay. 10th pick, Cincinnati Bengals. Oh, you're sorry. You're right about Evans. D.K., you're on the clock here. Sprinting to the podium to take Caleb Downs, Ohio State. safety. The Bengals just need defensive players, period. Um, and I think this makes sense.

They did sign Brian Cook. I kind of still like this though. Like get as many guys in that secondary as you can. I don't think that precludes them. Brian Cook is, is sort of like a thumper type. And Caleb Downs can play all over the defensive formation. He can be kind of like a nickelback. So yeah, I do think even with what happened in free agency for the Bengals, sprinting to get one of the best players in the draft, even though the potential knee issues here. Hi, Fitz, you like this? Yeah, you know, the Bengals are an organization that they just love football players, man. You know what I mean?

And obviously, like the Bengals are in a group of teams like me, like the Saints, the Cowboys, the Saints, Washington. There are like five or six teams that are almost done on offense. They have like nine or ten players that they've paid or put a first round pick into an offense. And then defense, they did half a dozen players. And you look at the defense, you're like, yeah, they lost Trahynx and they can use a pass rusher. But, you know, if Rubin Bain is gone and David Bailey's gone, I think the Bengals are the kind of team that we just, they're like, I love, the same reason I love Caleb Downs, where they're like, man, I know what's positional value,

safety, whatever, but I'm like, this, Caleb Downs is so impressed to me with his football IQ. I love the way he plays. I love the way he tackles. I, you know, again, it means something to me that Caleb Downs was the captain of the championship game, Ohio State played versus Notre Dame when he was a transfer that year. Like, that means something to me.

There was like, if you combined last year and this year, there's probably like 15 guys, 16 guys are going to be drafted from the Ohio State defense and the transfer comes in as one of the younger guys and gets to be the captain. I just think he's the glue of every. everything and he changed. I love Caleb Downs. So I think the Bengals will too. I think it totally makes sense for me. Number 11 here, high fits. We have the dolphins who also just acquired the 30th pick in the draft by trading Jalen Waddle. So they have 11 and 30. Who are you giving them at 11?

So the dolphins, it's weird because now you got to remember the dolphins are run by the Packers now. Like the Packers Brain Trust is running. Yeah, that's weird. So you want to, you want, if Cardinal Tape fell to the Miami, I think the Miami would take Colonel Tate. In the situation where he's gone, you look at Jordan Tyson, who is a great receiver from Arizona State, but has a lot of any issues, had a collarbone broken, had multiple ACL tear. And I'm like, the Packers don't pick these guys. I think it makes sense. Your Miami, take the guard.

I'm going to go with Vega, Yawane. D. Kim, I doing that right? Yeah, I think so. It's a guard. I don't care. He's a mauler. He's a, I just, Miami needs to get tougher in the trenches, man. Like the Booker Miami is a little soft.

Tua, I don't think had a great situation in Miami, but also Tua never had a good offensive line. Miami missed on a lot of their players. Austin Jackson's back for them, but a right tackle. it's a one-year deal for not that much money. You know, I think they're going to have like Jamari's, Jamari's Salier at right tackle from the charges. He's got like a minimum deal. Like they don't have a right guard.

And I just think Miami needs to have an interior that can protect Lake Lewis. And like if Lake Lewis is not the quarterback of the future long term, you need to build something where he can succeed. And then you have all these other picks. They have four third rounders. They have a second rounder. They have another first.

That's where you just take volume darts at receiver and so you don't try out the receiver. So I never seeer is tempting here, but I would just do that later and get the guard down. When your offense is stripped down, when your entire team is stripped down to the studs, like Miami's, like just start with the trenches. Yeah.

It's built an offensive line. Protect your quarterback. No one's going to be upset if you have a good offensive line and a bad quarterback. Jim Harbaugh said offensive line is the only position that makes every position better, literally every single one of the team. Okay. That gets us to the 12th pick here. Dallas,

on the clock, DK. What are the Cowboys doing? So I think defense is where I go to with the Cowboys. and in particular, I'm kind of looking at corner, just the way, what things have shaken out in Dallas. I feel like a cornerback is kind of an issue for them. And Mansour Delane, I think, is who I'm going to go with here. I personally really like Avion Terrell.

He's A.J. Terrell's little brother, but he's a little bit small. Some people think he might be more of like a nickelback type. I'm not sure he would go quite this high. So I'm going with a guy who is, I think, generally known as the number one corner in this class. There's a handful of guys that could take that title. But he's really, really instinctive. Can play a zone. Can play man. Just kind of like a plug and play starter for a team that needs a need more help at corner. Talk to me about this cornerback class a little bit. And yeah, in general, like how well, I think it's an interesting one. I don't know if there's any top 10 picks at corner

just because every guy and it's like this is part of this whole class. It feels like every guy kind of has like a butt attached to them in terms of like Mansour Delane, you know, really instinctive, good ball production, but a little bit slower, a little bit like less length or whatever. So maybe not a number one at cornerback. Avian Torrell, same deal. He's a little bit small. Jermon McCoy, Tennessee is really good. His 2024 tape was really good, but he didn't play in 2025.

And then he didn't compete at the combine. So people are wondering what's going on with his knee because he had an ACL injury. And they drafted Chavon Ravelle last year as a rookie in the third round, who had a knee reconstruction. John Blan has two foot surgeries in two years, which is like you can't draft another injured corner. Right. It's a great call.

So, and then Craig, your boy, Chris Johnson, San Diego State Corner, man, he is really fun. I'm really hoping he kind of, the Seahawks I have kind of circled for him, hopefully. Caleb, Colton Hood from Tennessee, the guy that played opposite, or sort of the opposite of McCoy, also very intriguing. This is a pretty good class of corner. but just no elite guys, I would say. Brandon Sese from South Carolina is super fast.

De Angel Ponce from Indiana, another guy who's super undersized, but just plays like a maniac in a good way, kind of got the Devin-Witherspoon persona to him. Keanuthes Scott from Miami, another guy who's kind of in that same mold where a little bit undersized, sort of a nickelback guy, but plays really hard and ferocious. I really like this corner class. I'm just not sure if we're going to see a top 10

10 guy. That's saying so you hate cornerbacks. I know. Some of these corners this year are really fun to watch. And again, I don't want to make everything about Devin Wetherspoon because, but I just love the way he plays. He's so ferocious, so tenacious, tone setter and energy to a defense. You see a couple guys in that group. I think tackle. Yeah, Avionn Terrell to me is one of those guys where he's just, man, he's just everywhere. He tackles. He's, he's a blitzer. Um, he, he ups the intensity on a defense. Like I said, D'Angelo Pons, undersized, but super fun to watch. Um, There's some nickelback type guys in this class that are going to be really fun to watch. To that point, the Cowboys taking Mints with Delane, the top cornerback in this draft probably makes sense because the Cowboys, honestly, I would argue the Cowboys have missed three picks in the first round in the last 20 years.

The Cowboys always hit. Like the Cowboys is always like, they're kind of like the Ravens are like, damn, I can't believe that happened. And Delane falling into the Cowboys like they would take them. You're like, oh, yeah, they got a good football player. Yeah. Jerry knows. Don't question Jerry. Will McLeigh knows, but yeah.

All right. 13th pick, the Rams. So, D.H, you're on the clock here. The Rams did have two first-round picks, but they gave one to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie. So now they just have the 13th pick, which they got from Atlanta. So, Hyfitz, what are the Rams doing at 13?

We're on the phone with Howie Roseman. Ooh. I think the Rams are getting two calls. The Lions are on the phone. The Lions want to trade up. The Lions have the 17th pick. The Lions want to move up four picks. D.K., wait, can you play Brad Holmes, D.K.?

Okay. I carry on your giant balls in with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, what running back or receiver am I trading up for here? We can't tell you. I'm the Lions, too. You know, I can, I do think the Lions are on the phone. They're like, oh, we want to move up.

But you're like, remember, we, we made, because Brad Holmes worked for the Rams. Yeah. Right. And the Rams are like, you want to give us a fourth to move back four spots and less needs like, you know what? We don't hunt for bait fish, right? We're going for sharks. Like, we're trying to get a fish.

Next year's first. I'm going to get a Marlin. Yeah. So I want to ask you guys, do you think the Rams pay up for like an AJ Brown or a Max Crosby deal? And like, because they say they're out, but draft night or do they pick? Because I don't think they move back unless they're getting a first or like a future first like last year or a player. I don't think they're moving back four spots. Do you think they would move on from Devante Adams if they're bringing in AJ Brown?

No. They're winning a Super Bowl. They don't give a fuck. That's kind of wild to me. them go, I really don't understand. I feel like the one thing I didn't think the Rams needed was another wide receiver. I feel like. Well, Devante Adams, the injury, the injury situation, I think is like kind of weighing on

that. Yeah. Puka's not exactly the, he's not a careful guy. Also, like, try to guard those teams. It's like, it's an embarrassment of riches. It's like, imagine Sean McVeigh with the best players. That's it. Most great teams are a great coach with a ton of great players.

Yeah. Man. Just the idea of A.J. Brown, Puka, and Devante Adams rolling out there in the playoffs. and they're all probably going to be hurt. So you're saying the Rams maybe give up the 13th pick for A.J. Brown? Yeah, you know what? I kind of want to do it. I don't know if this is really going to happen, but I kind of want to do it.

That would be ridiculous value for Philly. Yeah. Ridiculous. Is that wrong? I don't want to do it if you think that's great. I don't think they're giving up. I don't think they would do that either. No. No. Watch them do it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, man.

You think he's A.G. Brown's 28? It would be more complicated than straight up for 13 probably, right? Like a trade back plus next year's second or something like that. AJ Brown is 29 on June 30th, so he's 29 for the season. And I don't know, man. I mean, maybe they don't care about the headache and they think that he can slot in. And it's like a, you know, O'Dell on the Rams type of thing. But, uh, let's just avoid.

Let's avoid doing trades in this just because it makes everything so complicated. Oh, I'm going to do it. I'm going to call you next thing. You never told me this beforehand, but okay. Well, it's okay. I'm going to call you. So wait, who are they, what are they doing here? DK, do you think it's crazy if the Rams take Mackay Lemon here?

I don't know if I feel about him as a first rounder, to be totally honest, but I kind of think the Rams want a receiver. You know what? What about Jordan Tyson? I think McCoy Lemon, you know what? Provide something that the Rams don't have right now. I feel like he stylistically is like something new for them, but I like Jordan Tyson way more, to be honest.

I'm going to do Jordan Tyson because I think Jordan Tyson makes sense as the Devonthe Adams replacement. And I think Jordan Tyson is a great third receiver. But DeVonte Adams is, I think he can be 34. And then Tyson, his style and everything, like just the release. He's not like the fastest straight line guy. Well, honestly, a lot of those guys. I think Jordan Tyson makes a ton of sense for the Rams and he can help immediately. But then I do think in two years, he's the man beater for the Rams.

And then he stays as the zombieer. So yeah, I'll give the. There are some aspects of Jordan Tyson's game that remind me of Devante, in fact. Like, just like footwork and the short area quickness that he has. Like his wiggle is reminiscent. And I don't think he's nearly as good at kind of at the catch point. as Devante Adams is, but... It's an underrated part of receiver

because we obsess over Xavier Worthy and the straight-line speed. But much of receiver of what actually succeeds is, could you actually beat someone off the dribble than basketball? Like, these types of playing back... And like, Xavier was fast, but could he get around a cornerback to the basket to where he's going?

Not necessarily. And like, that's... Devante Adams has, like, he's the Kyrie Irving of receivers. Jordan Tyson has good game feel. Like, even if he's not faster than Xavier Worthy, like, he moves well in the field. And, like, when he's going left to right and forward, and back and diagonally, like he just, he has agility and speed that way. And you just jumps off.

You just see it. And the catch radius. Stafford, like, you want a guy with the catch radius for that where Stafford's going to be like put it in this like really small window and Tyson goes up and get it. So yeah, I'll give Tyson. And I think he can open one of Super Bowl this year, which is the point. That's incredibly sexy. And well, it's funny. Okay, now that you attach a name to it, would you trade Jordan Tyson for AJ Brown straight up? You know, it's funny. It's hard to say because on one hand, I'm like, I'm curious who you think, D.K., but Jordan Tyson is these knee injuries. But so does AJ Brown. AJ Brown played the whole second season. He got like 1100 yards and they told him he's out for the season.

Like how much better will 2026 and 2027 be for AJ Brown than Jordan Tyson? I think AJ Brown's really underrated because- I'd rather have AJ Brown. Right. I think A.J. Brown is the most obvious by-low candidate. I think the reason he hasn't been traded yet is the money. D.K., what do you think? I think AJ Brown is still like an elite football player and everyone's like, oh, he's frustrated.

But we're also like, oh, so the Eagles might replay. In a year from now, the Eagles might be talking. talking about replacing Jalen Hertz or two years. And we're going to look back and like, oh, yeah, J.Len Hertz was, or A.J. Brown was probably right. I think A.J. Brown could get traded and have 1,600 yards next year. I wouldn't be shocked at all. I think he's still top six receiver. I think that's right. I think I would lean towards that. Okay. With the knee. We don't know how he'll age, but I think he's incredible. 14th pick, D.K.,

Baltimore Ravens. What the hell do I do with the Ravens? I'm on the phone. I got it, D.K., don't worry. Thank you. Save me. What are you got on the Lions here. We're calling. We have the fourth run pick, we will give you our fourth and we're going to give you our fourth round pick and we want to swap seconds. So you can just have our fourth round and move

back three spots or sorry, four spots here. And you can just have the 120th pick. And then on top of it, you're also going to be able to move up a little bit in round two. Sorry, never mind, not round two. That's a different thing. I'll give you a fourth rounder.

Deal. That doesn't feel like very much. much. I get a third. We don't have a third. We don't have a third. We traded it because we love, this is why I'm calling it to the lions.

Lions get itchy. The lines trade up for Jameson Williams. We can come up with a creative compensation here and I'll just say go ahead. Because I'm actually, I do think the Raven, there's sort of like a tier drop here for, yeah,

like offensive linemen and edge players and stuff. Like, I think moving back a few spots is not going to hurt the Ravens. And the Lions get so itchy when they want to play. Yeah. And like they trade up all the time. The Ravens always trade back. So I really do think that this is an obvious one.

Okay. I'm going to have the lines move up. And I think the lines are going to take Monroe Freeling, the tackle from Georgia. And I'm curious if you agree, D.K., but it's very simple. It's the stat. None of us can really, not stat, but the fact none of us can really get over it, which is the lines have one starting offensive lineman from two years ago. Yeah.

It's the identity of the team. The lion's probably a bigger need. They might need an edge rusher. They might need whatever. But the lion's identity has to be mauling, running the ball. They have to get back to it. I think the right side of the line for Detroit's okay. They have Pena Sewell's like, you know, top two right tackle in the NFL.

Tate Rod Lidge will I think it'd be good. They got his center. Cade Mays, the Panthers guy. The left side, they have Giovanni Manu who, what is he from British Columbia? He was like a third round pick. Some teams have been. Talk about that. Can you imagine Timbuktu, yeah.

What is he? British Columbia? He didn't, like, I don't think, I don't know if he even played college football is my point. Like, he's like a total project. And the idea that like, yeah, he was, he went to college. and he was the first player from the University of British Columbia ever drafted in the NFL. Like, he didn't go to a college football program. And so that's the starting left tackle for the Lions this year.

He's a, that's a swing tackle project. And so I think the lion's trading up for Monroe Freeland, which tell me if you disagree, you get, he's like, I think has the physical, and I could be wrong. I think it's the physicality that Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes would be like he's a lion. Yeah, I can see this. I think in your draft guy, you have him as feisty. And I think they need someone like that. Really, really athletic mover, light feet.

tons of tons of length he's kind of got that he's a little bit of a project I think one year starter but he's he's got the upside to be a really good player for a really good starter for years and years

and they cut Taylor Decker the left tack yeah yeah and to stress why the lions would do this DK according to your big board so if they take Monroe Freeling here at 14 you don't have another offensive lineman until 27th on your big board yeah

yeah I think that that and Hyfitz when I was thinking of who to give the Ravens here I'm like I don't know, like maybe they would go offensive line, but I think with Ronnie Stanley just signed a contract last year. So they got that guy, and then they got Roger Rosengarten at the right tackle spot, so they're probably not going to take him out their tackle, then yeah, whatever. The number 15th pick. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Hyfitz, who will they take? I'm giving them a key mess to doer, the University of Miami Pass Rusher. He is the other one

aside from Ruben Bay and the Edge Rusher, and he is the one who's the one who's the one who's 25 years old and some teams want youth. Some teams don't. The Buccaneers are a win now. Todd Bulls is as hot seat as you can get for an established coach. Todd Bulls fired all three coordinators. Bucks are quietly a mess. Like they fired all three coordinators. Mike Evans left. They collapsed down the stretch.

They should have won the division. Dude, it's crazy. At like week five last year, the Bucks were like a top four Super Bowl favorite. They absolutely collapsed. Bicker Mayfield was like an MVP candidate. And so I think some teams look at the age thing and are bad. Todd Bulls is a short term. They're like, we need enough that he's making.

the pick, Jason Light is, the GM, but I think Todd Bowles needs a pass rusher contribute. Trevor, who does great work on the drafted pro football focus, is a huge Bucks fan. I really trust what Trevor thinks about the Bucks, and he thinks they've needed edge rusher for years. None of the pass rushers that Bucs have picked, D.K., have made it. Like, they have like, yeah, yeah, Diabby. They have like, you know, Chris Braswell was from Bama, kind of a run-pass guy. Joe Tran, Shiaenka, like, none of these edge rushers have really made an impact. Like, the Bucks used to be defined by it when they won the Super Bowl with the Brady.

It was before Brady got there was edge defense. They need pass rush. So I think Tampa is going to take someone who can contribute. immediately. That makes sense. Do you like Messador as a player? I do, man. I think he's really good.

Other than he's going to be 25 years old. Yeah, Jim Carrey from the cable guy. He's got to watch that movie. It's freaking hilarious. Just imagine, it's just an absolute maniac on the field. You don't want to be near him on the field in a good way, complimentary. So I do like him. I think the only problem is he's a five-year player or whatever, or six-year player.

He's going to be 25 years old as a rookie. So there's some concern that. he's sort of at the peak of his development arc and won't get any better or wasn't really all that good until he was 25 years old playing against, you know, 18 to 19 year olds or whatever. What's the Mitch Edberg line? Wish I could go back to Little League now. It kick some fucking ass. But yeah, I do really like him. I think he's in a similar vein as Ruben Bain, honestly. Just an absolute ferocious. Craig just said that.

We're halfway through the show, baby. We got to keep moving. I was about to tell you, you got to be a little more trigger-happy on that, on the playoff music, because we got to keep going here. Be careful what you wish for, sir. I know. All right, the Jets are up at 16. D.K., what are the Jets doing? This is the sauce gardener pick. I'm going to give them, dude, I'm looking at their roster.

They filled so many holes. Maybe not filled is the right word, but they addressed a lot of holes on their defense in free agency and in trades. So I'm going to address the offense here. Gino Smith, give him at least a five. fighter's chance of doing something this year. And I'm going to take Mackayleman from USC, who I think is a good compliment to what they have at the receiver core. Garrett Wilson, kind of a do-everything guy, A.D. Mitchell, you know, he showed some flashes

as an outside player for them, but put, put Mikey Lemon in the slot. And I think he could be really, really productive for them doing run after the catch stuff. He's really, really tough at the catch point, gives them some tenacity on offense. You saw him, like the serpentine interview at the combine. He's just an intense dude. And I really like him. I think, you know, he has the potential to be productive from day one for them. I got to say the Jets taking a guy named Lemon, no shot.

I couldn't agree more. He drafted a Lemon in the first round? What? Jets took a Lemon rights itself. Yeah. I mean, round two of Gino Smith on the Jets throwing a guy named Lemon. There's no way. Okay.

Yeah, that's fair. So quick, let's review the last eight picks here. Once again, if you're watching on Spotify or Netflix, you can pull up the video and you can see our graphic of the picks so far. Turn us on Netflix when you're leaving your house. That's right. Just let it run.

Let your dog watch us. So the ninth pick, or your cat, ninth pick in the draft we gave Spencer Fano the tackled of the chiefs. At 10, the Bengals took safety Caleb Downs out of Ohio State. At 11, Miami took Vega Ione. You wanti?

You want it. And I do. Dallas Cowboys took Mansour Delaney. Delane, Delaney? Delane. These are hard. Delane at 12. At 13, we had the Rams taking wide receiver, Jordan Tyson. 14, we had a trade.

The Lions traded up to grab Monroe Freeling, the tackle from Georgia. The bucks at 15 took Eddresser, Akeem Messador, and the Jets just took Mackay Lemon, the receiver out of USC, which now high fits. The Ravens that have just traded back to 17. I have a feeling you're going to give them Sadiq Bay here because they need a tight end. I mean, Sadiq Bay.

Kenyon Sadiq. Not the NBA player. That would be cool, though. Well, I think D.K. is on Ravens duty. Do you want me to take this one? Oh, this is DK. Yeah.

Are you giving them Kenyon Sadiq now tied end? They lost Isaiah likely. No. Mark Andrews is old. You're not doing it. I don't know. I think they, I don't know. That's a good question.

The Ravens, it's interesting because if you look at the last few years, their biggest hits in the draft have been, quote, unquote, non-premian positions. You look at like. Kyle Hamilton. Kyle Hamilton, Tyler Lindervam, some of these guys that have come in and, like, fall into them because they're not, premium positions, but then they turn into all pro players. Kenyon City could be a next in that line.

I think that they'll just do the sort of Ravens thing, which is address the trenches, big, big, strong, powerful, high upside pass rushers. I'm going to go with Keldrick Falk from Auburn. He fits kind of what they've done in the past where you're looking for traits over production. Maybe they'll change now because it hasn't really worked out for them. That's kind of why they traded for Max Crosby and then backed out of it.

But took a Dauphi away to Penn State. He had no career sacks. But I don't know how, I don't know if they're going to completely abandon their previous philosophy or maybe the, I don't know. So, but that's just kind of like where I go like two days and then they regretted it. Yeah, they're like, I got to go back to my wife. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to go with Keldrick Falk.

He's just big, strong, athletic, very young, like tons of upside potential as he grows, like, you know, figures out more moves and things like that as a pass rusher. But I just think from. day one he's a you plug him in and he's just gonna like wreck shop on the defensive line speaking of the ravens i know i'm watching madman i'm comparing everything to madman right now but spoiler in a show that's like almost 20 years old but i got i'm just spoiled season six so skip forward if you want but i got to the point where ted sleeps with peggy and then he's like i love you i'm gonna leave my what like let's get me i love you like let's do this and peggy's like okay and she's like don't

rush it like i don't want a scandal like he's like i'm gonna leave my wife and he goes home and he gets in and he sees his kids and he's like What am I doing? And he's like, we're moving to California. He's like, I'm getting away from this woman. And like, this is the Ravens. Like, that's what the Ravens did. They're like, Max Crawley, I'm doing this.

Like, we're doing this. And then they saw the thing. They went home and they're like, what am I doing? And they just digs the trip. They got hormonal, as Pete Carroll would put it. So who does that make Trey Hendrickson then? Is that? Who's that?

The California office. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pete Campbell. Yeah, I don't know. A walk on the beach. All right. Yeah. So that brings us to.

Pick 18, Minnesota Vikings, D.K. What are we thinking? This is like absolutely chocked now because everybody is connecting these two players or the player and team here, but I'm going with Dylan Thineman, Oregon, Safety, just the Harrison Smith replacement. And he is so, he's one of my favorite players

in this draft, full stop. He's just really athletic, rangy, hard hitter, plays with good discipline. One of the most athletic players in the combine. I just think there's a ton of a ton of upside here. He is this year's version of Nick Emmon Worry, I think.

Dylan Teateman is white chocolate Minka Fitzpatrick from eight years ago, except the league now is better suited to Mika Fitzpatrick skill set than when he came in. Mika Fitzpatrick was on the Dolphin didn't really fit anywhere.

He's a tweener. Then the Steelers gave up a first to get Mika Fitzpatrick because the first time the Steelers had given up their own first round pick in like 50 years. That's how good Mike Toma thought Mika Fitzpatrick was.

He was incredible. That skill set of being able to play all these different positions on defense that five years ago was like, oh, what do we do with this guy? Now it's like, it's like NBA, switch everything. Oh, you can guard a big. Now you got to be able to take a point guard at the top of the key. And so like they need cornerbacks who can switch on now that they have more tight ends. Can you do a tight end? Can you do a blitz?

Can you take on a block? Can you tackle a running back? Can you like they need guys who can do everything. Tina Min is so athletic. Fuck. I was close and yeah. No, you're right. You're right.

You're right. It's a good pick, though. I like it. I'm excited to watch him. Everybody loves him. I feel like since the combine, I've been hearing about how much of a freak he is. Yeah.

Okay, that brings us to the 19th pick. The Panthers, high fits. What are the Panthers doing at 19th? So this is the first one where I'm a little. I think the Panthers also need to safety and would love Tieneman to fall to them and would take Tienem in a heartbeat.

But frankly, I don't know what to do here. I think Carolina is a little more analytics-oriented than you think. I don't know what they would do here. Part of me thinks the, part of me just thinks the obvious answer. is maybe Carolina just takes Caden Procter out of Alabama, which is a little crazy.

But Ikea Kwanu, their left tackle, had a very serious knee injury. And maybe I'm overrating that. But part of me is like just take an offensive lineman. Like you cannot lose the offensive line for Bryce Young. I know they have Taylor Motown. It is crucial. It is crucial.

Ikuatu left tackle. And they brought in Rashid Walker as well this year. They signed Rashid Walker. Yeah, I guess maybe they wouldn't do that. But I look at the other players. They don't know the tight end. Why is nobody picking Kenyon and Sadeek? Would they not get a tight end?

Carolina is Tommy Trembled, Jotavian Sanders? Who do they have a tight end? Because there's a lot of tight end. I think it's this, honestly, it's not that different than fantasy football where you're like, do you want to take a tight end in the second round? You're like, yeah, I get one later. Because it's like, can you get a defensive tackle in the third round? It's really hard.

But a tight end, I mean, Trey McBride was a second round pick. Kelsey was the third round pick. George Kittle was not a first run pick. Like all the great tight ends, not that, you know, other than, I mean, who, I mean, really, what, Colson, Loveland and Brock Bowers, not, if you, if you look, look at the best titans in the NFL. Tyler Warren, yeah. Tyler Warren was good, but like Tucker Kraft was, I think,

he was the second tight end, the Packers took in that draft. Sure. So I think teams want to wait. What about a safety? What about Emmanuel McNeil Warren? You know what? Honestly, that's probably the right answer. Can I swap it out?

I think that's correct because I think they, sure. Panthers really need a safety. And the defense is really close. Offense they put in, again, they're another team that has Jalen Coker and Ted McMill Young. They have everything else. And I think the defense, like, you know, yeah, so I think that makes sense.

McNeill Warren. He's another one that got a, ton of buzz in Indianapolis. Yeah. I feel like, dude, he has a great peanut punch, Craig.

He just punches the shit out of the ball. And it's awesome. Okay. That's my analysis on that. Okay. So we're officially giving McNeil Warren to the Panthers.

20th pick now. D.K., we have the, the Cowboys again. That's right. So they're doing the first, their first of two first rounders. I picked Mansour Delane,

LSU. corner. I think the Cowboys, one of the main reasons they traded Michael Parsons was so they could add multiple players to their defense and try and not be just so dependent on one guy. I am kind of looking at Kenyon Sadiq here and I'm interested. You know, Jake Ferguson, I think is a fine player, but he's not like a game changing talent. He's not someone that can, you know, tilt the field in any direction. But I think I'm going to go meat and potatoes here. Edge, T.J. Parker, Clemson. This is the range where I think guys like him will start coming off the board

because he was one of those players who in 2024 was much more productive. He kind of fell off in 2025. The production wasn't there, what people thought they should, or he should have or was expected to have. But you could say that about pretty much everybody on Clemson in general. It was just a really disappointing year for them. And so I think he did, you know, enough. He flashed enough in terms of power on the edge.

He's a big bodied guy, good upside potential to get back on the positive as a pass rush. Because in 2024, he was pretty productive as a pass rusher. So I think teams are still going to look at that and think this guy, they can extract some of that from him and going forward. So I'm going to go with T.J. Parker for Clemson. I think that makes sense. I mean, Cowboys, they need a pass rush. I'm trying to think the Cowboys had a pass rusher recently that was good that they need to replace. The other edge guys that like are talked about in the,

this in this range are all kind of have one glaring issue. Cassius Howell, Texas A&M, extremely short arms. He's another guy that has just like outlier length arms. You got Armason Thomas from Oklahoma, who is really explosive, but a little undersized. You got Zion Young from Missouri. I think he could actually end up going late first round just because he plays with so much power. Gabe Jackus from Illinois, I'm probably saying that wrong.

Yacchus, he's really a fun player. He just absolutely fucking clobberts people. Derek Moore from Michigan. A lot of these guys are power rushers with not a lot of bend, but just incredible strength at the point of attack to bull rush. But I think this is sort of that range where you could see a handful of different edge guys come off the board. All right, that brings us to my Pittsburgh Steelers at 21 now.

Yeah, you're going to make a big year. Get some lobbying in here, Craig. Well, so, look, I wanted the Steelers to take a wide receiver, but then they brought in Michael Pittman. Do they still need more help at wide receiver? Because behind D.K. Meckaff and Michael Pittman is brutal. It's Roman Wilson and it's like Ben Scoronic and that's it. I don't know if they're going to draft like Denzel Boston or Kevin Concepcion or something like that.

I don't know. D.K., isn't Peter Woods the Dune Worm guy? Maybe they just bring in him and just keep adding to the defensive line. Cam Hayward's, you know, this is probably his last year in the league. Like try to find your Cam Hayward replacement. Derek Harmon was a good rookie year player. You have Keanu Bet and Yaya Black, but like, you can't have to, you mean, just like, do the Eagles thing. Just build the best defensive line in the trenches that you can.

And he's, he reminds me of like an Eagles type pick of a guy who was really good a year before and then kind of fell off for whatever reason and then fell in the draft. And then the Eagles end up getting like this really good player. And everyone's like, God damn it. Why did they get him? You know, Peter Woods, do your, yeah, I think you should take him. Shy Hulud. Do your shy Hulud bit. Shy Hulud!

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That you think I mean because I would just love them To take an offensive lineman As much as possible Well Caden Proctor's there A left tackle makes sense Project Jolm is not good. Yeah.

I think it left tackle makes sense from Pittsburgh as well. I know. I was thinking like best player available I'm looking at, I'm looking at Peter Woods, but then if it's like you want to take an actual need, finding a Project Jones replacement would be lovely. I think Kayden Proctor, I think Caleb Lomo from Utah, the tackle,

the other one outside from Spencer Fano. I mean, even Max, I can't pronounce it, Ian Eckor from Arizona. I think a left tackle run. Let's switch it then. I want to switch it because what's the best tackle I should Caden Proctor? He might be a guard.

He might be what? He might be a guard. If you want to pure tackle, Caleb Loamoo. If he's huge and kind of slow, we already have that in Brojerkjohn, so I'd like to go with something else. He's huge and fast.

He actually got a touchdown this year, right? I mean, he's really good. Well, he's like 360 pounds. So fast is relative. I mean, he's, you know. Yeah, but I mean, for 6-7-360, I think he's pretty... So what am I doing?

I will defer to you, D.K. Who, which tackle should I take? Caleb Lomu probably has the most upside As a left tackle Yeah, he's like a pure left tackle Let's go with Caleb Lomu Okay All right, Chargers at 22

DK What are we doing from my boys? This is a team that I've connected to Caden Proctor because they went out and did the Who was the Eagles guy that they signed last offseason That ended up being kind of a bust for them? Mackay Beckett

That is, I think Proctor is nice because you could play tackle in a pinch if one of the tackles ends up not being healthy by the time they're ready to go. But I think he's going to be an ass kicker at guard at the very least. So Caden Proctor from Alabama has been a player team connection that I kind of like. This is a great example for the charges of, yeah, take the best player available. The best player who plays offensive line available. It's like, you know what I mean? It just protect Justin Herbert. Like protect Justin Herbert.

You literally cannot have enough offensive linemen on the Chargers. Jim Harbaugh literally made a rule. We even talked about this enough. Jim Harba made a rule that teams players can't high five Justin Herbert because Jim Harba said he woke up in the middle of the night and was worried that a high five he saw earlier that. He's like the players are high fiving and dapping up Justin Herbert too violently. No one's allowed to high five Justin Herbert anymore.

And I'm like, they're going to get him alignment. That's a little playing scared. I don't know if I like that. No high five. Yeah. All right. It's Eagles at 23. What's how we doing?

He wasn't able to make a trade earlier. So what's he doing at 23? I mean, the right answer is probably trading back. But they also, the Eagles trade up sometimes. I think the Eagles are going to get a pass rush here. I don't know. I think the Eagles, I'm going to go ahead and give them. Give him a guy like Zion Young or.

What about Mason Thomas? Our Mason Thomas. Yeah. Explosive guy. High, high energy. I like that. He's just a little bit undersized. But I don't think that's, I don't think that's like a deal.

deal breaker necessarily. I could see them liking a guy like, well, they have, they're pretty solid at defensive tackle, but yeah. Unless they trade Jalen Carter, which they've done. They've been rumored. So who you like him? I'm going to go with, yeah, I'm going to go with Mason Thomas at Oklahoma. I'll be honest.

I don't know if that makes sense for them totally as a fit. But I do think the Eagles go, a pass rusher. They usually go premium position or trade back in this. Honestly, they probably would trade back in the situation, but I don't know who's going to trade up right now. But I think that the Eagles, they really. they really are kind of, the cupboards bear at defense event. Like when they won the Super Bowl, they were just,

they had seven guys that were like rotating in. They've lost all of them. You know what I mean? I mean, they have, they thought they were going to get Jalen Phillips back. He went to Carolina. You know what I mean? The Eagles,

I mean, Jailen Carter has been rumored and traded at this point that I'm kind of like a little curious. But if you look at the Eagles depth chart, I mean, why would they trade Jalen Carter? They think they've extracted all the value out of him and he's only going to, he's not a long term. It's got to be like a knucklehead. Knucklehead something.

Yeah, I was going to say. I feel like if you're willing to trade Jalen Carter, if the Eagles are making calls about Jalen Carter, you probably don't want to trade for him. It's like, what do you know? Exactly. Yeah, it's concerning. There are some similarities with Nolan Smith and R. Mason Thomas.

So I can kind of see this stylistically. So his name is, can I tweet this? I figured what's going to happen. They're not going to pick here. I'm going to do, I think. He's trading again. The dolphins, yes, the dolphins are going to trade up with the Eagles. The dolphins are going to give.

two third round picks they're going to move up seven spots and they're going to go ahead and they're going to take because the dolphins have like four third round picks they have four third on picks and i think they trade up and i think miami goes ahead and they take one of the offensive tackles left i think maybe they get um wait is katin proctor got yeah low move went yeah so there's an offensive tackle run happening and i think the last offensive tackle left dk and correct me if i'm wrong that's really a tackle is um max a natchi and etchior from arizona state i'm sorry that's a that's a smart one i kind I like that one. Yeah,

yeah. If the dolphins don't get a tackle there, there's no tackle in the range. And I think the dolphins going in building the trenches, I think it just makes sense. And then you have a second and you still have two thirds to go up. I like that, actually.

It's one of those things where you might not have to trade back. You might not have to trade up for him. But like you said, if there's a run on tackles happening, you get itchy and you move up. Yes. Someone will. But yeah,

because he's more, I think of, he's sort of considered a first second round turn, type of player, you know, might be a second round or might be, might be late, late first. He's very new to football. He's only played for a couple of years. In fact, he didn't play high school football. He was a soccer, I think, in basketball. You know, um, oh, he played, what do he play in high school? Uh, yeah, tackle. Makes sense. Meat and potatoes for the, for the, for the dolphins. Uh, wait, who did they take with their first one? They took, uh, a guard. So man, guard and

a tackle. And I know this is, and you're like, well, who's the receiver? I'm like, well, I kind of like it. One was signed DeAndre Hopkins and that's a start. That's your number two. You know what I mean? I just think building it. No one's going to be upset if the dolphins take two off linemen in the first round. That's fair.

Browns. Browns on the clock. Their second pick. They already had the sixth pick in the draft. They took David Bailey. D.K., what are they doing at 24? This is one where they could go receiver and try and build out that receiver group, which is pretty bad right now.

Jerry Judy. They gave all that money to and he stinks. Cedric Tillman, I think, has talent, but he was hurt last year. He hurt part of the year last year. year. Isaiah Bond ended up not doing anything. I think receiver is kind of who I'm looking at right here to help help out whoever they have playing quarterback. Let's see. My highest ranked receiver on the board right now is Casey Concepcion from Texas A&M, who I love. And he, I think, would be a good long-term replacement for Jerry Judy as like a Z type receiver. A guy

could play outside, could play inside, explosive or not have to catch talent, great body control. he has some drops on tape, but he also has incredible catches. So I think it's more of just a concentration type deal with him. And I think he could be a big-time playmaker in the NFL. So I'm going with Casey Concepcion. Imagine being a prospect in the 2026 NFL draft and you're projected to go late in the first round

and maybe you wanted to go in the early first round, but then your friends and family are like, you know what? At the very least, at least you're going to a good team. And you're like, that's true. And then at the 24th pick, you get selected by the Cleveland Browns. That actually, it must be heartbreaking.

Absolutely heartbeach. Okay, 25th pick here, Chicago Bears, who had an interesting free agency, lost a lot of guys, kind of a decent amount of turnover in Chicago. Hyvitz, what are they doing at 25? I think they're going to go. I think in this situation, they would go defensive tackle. I think the bears probably would go safety.

They lost the Chiquang Brisker. They lost Kevin Dyer. They lost Chauncy Gardner Johnson. But there was a safety run. They kind of missed it. They signed Kobe Bryant from Seattle, which kind of helps out. They signed Kobe Bryant, which helps. They also sign, I mean.

Not the guy on the Lakers. Jesus. I'll never lose that one down. I think the Bears could flip this pick for Max Crosby, but I don't know if the Raiders want to wait. I think at this point, the Raiders carry it into August and try to get first in 2020, 27. So I don't, I think I wouldn't be shocked if the Raiders trade back into this pick.

But I think, I think what the Bears do here, because the safety is gone, it's a good defense tackle, Cade and McDonnell at Ohio State. I am flipping on D.K.'s board. Dick is Peter Woods at 21st on his board. I do think NFL teams might be concerned. Peter Woods played way better two seasons ago than last season. And I think, I don't know. He's got short arms.

He was not, he did not put up good numbers athletically, I don't think. I think there's questions about Peter Woods is whatever that for whatever reason teams might just not want to. No one wants to stake their name to him in the first round because they're worried for whatever reason. And I can't put my finger on it. No, I think that's probably true. The Bears have no trench presence.

They have nothing in the middle of the defensive line. They're so old in the middle of the defensive line. And too old. Too old. And K. McDonnell, I don't think it's going to be an all pro defensive tackle, but he will be average or above average. And he's a shit kicker on the inside. He just absolutely stuffs the run. He's, and that's exactly what Chicago needs.

They need just the giant guy in the middle who's young. And I think that's exactly what Chicago needs. DK 26th pick, Buffalo Bills. Ooh. Okay. So the bills, what are the, what are the bills biggest need hive? Is you're working on the team needs right now for the NFL draft guide. what do you see as kind of like the biggest needs?

They signed Bradley Chubb as a pass rusher in the offseason. They need edge rusher because if you look at the bill, so they signed, again, they traded for, they traded DJ Moore. They traded the second rounder, which as Craig keeps reminding us correctly, it was like the 60th pick. So the Buffalo has the picks 26. They don't pick again until 91. And this is a team that needs to win a Super Bowl and fired Sean McDermick because he couldn't win a Super Bowl. So the offense, they've invested a ton of the offensive line. They brought back Connor McGovern.

I think that the office line's okay. They edge rushers huge. Like lost in that drive at the Bill's Broncos game where they lost was that Joey Bosa really played terribly in that game. The bills keep bringing in these like aging mercenary edge rushers that are kind of like flawed. And like they're getting pretty old at that spot for a team that wants to win a Super Bowl. They don't really have the stable of edge rushing talent that you want. They have Gregorriso.

But after that, it's like Bradley Chub. They brought in from Miami. Bradley Chub is the epitome of the aging mercenary guy who's available in cheap because he's always hurt. And they need youth to balance out the vaunt. They tried Von Miller. They tried Joey Bosa. They tried Bradley Chub. You can't just depend on aging, injured defensive ends that were good five years ago.

So I think they have to go edge rusher. Okay. Yeah. And this is an interesting spot. The, when I think about the bills and their past rushers that they've drafted over the last, like, decade, it's always these big, long, kind of slow guys. Gregory Rousseau comes to mind. Obviously, he's like athletic, but he's really big, sort of a power rusher. Now they got Bradley Chub, another power rusher.

And so I kind of want to go like a different direction, give them a little bit different flavor. I'm going to go Cash's Howell. I think he's probably been beaten up enough in this sort of process with the arm length thing. And that's definitely a concern. He's definitely an outlier. But he's still really productive, really explosive, really disruptive off the edge. And I think that's exactly the type of player they need. Maybe he's not going to be maybe the arm length will be a slight issue in the pros.

But again, it's the same as Rubin Bain. Like when he's rushing out there, you don't really notice it because he's so explosive. So I'm going to go with Cash Howell. And even though he has really, really short arms, I think this is still the range you can take him and feel okay about it. Okay. That brings us to 27 with San Francisco here, who are we with George Kittal tearing his Achilles. Are we in Kenya and Zadik range? Oh, 100%.

You know who I'm changing my comp for him is Vernon Davis? I think, I think Kenyon Steak is exactly the Niners would take here. And I'm going to give it. Yeah. Because I, damn it. They went, old a receiver. They went Mike Evans and they went, um, Christian Kirkett receiver. They have Ricky Parasol's young.

But I agree. George Kittle is not replacing him. But I mean, George Kittal is towards Achilles, but he is 31. He's 32, turns 33 this season. I think Kenyon Steak, this is where he goes. Yeah. That's like his floor. In fact, he's probably not going to fall this far.

Um, I think he might because he just look at the position. There's a chance. There's a chance. Think about how many tackles we have at this spot. Like we have, if you're counting Spencer Fano as a tackle, you've got Maui, Noah, you got Spencer Fano, you got Monroe Freeling, you've got Caleb Lomu, Proctor, and Max. So there's like six, seven guys maybe.

You can't get a tackle that can start in the third round, or at least you don't want to bank on it. You can get a tight end that can start for you. And I just think teams look at it that way. You know what I mean? Yeah. Sidique with Shanahan. I think DJ.

Did you have any weaknesses? DJ or Daniel Jeremiah, sorry, DJ. kind of threw this out there. And he likes to throw out little nuggets that he's hearing. And I think Kenyon Sadiq was a big follower in his latest mock draft, which is usually what he's hearing. So I think there is a chance that Sadiq kind of in that late first round area versus high-end first round.

So I got the Texans next. That's right. 28th pick, Texans. Texans have a good roster, man. The offense of line is always a big deal for them. They keep trading away their offensive linemen. Well, and looking at your big board, I mean, Hive is you trading up for Detroit earlier

to get Monroe Freeling made a lot of sense because the offensive linemen disappear quickly in looking at the rest of DK's big board. There are literally no more offensive line or one more offensive linemen on your big board. We got, so offensive tackle in particular, I think the next guy on my board would be a... Blake Miller, 53rd.

Clemson, who some people think he might be a first rounder. I think he's one of those guys who the tape isn't like elite, but everything you hear about him, he's just absolute, you know, blue chip type guy from a football character point of view. You know what I mean? Like just an absolute badass, works his ass off, place through injuries. He has a ton of experience. I think there's a chance this is the pick here for the Texans because of all those intangible type things and he's not like a bad offensive tackle. I think he's, uh, you know,

maybe a little bit slow foot at times. He has a little bit of issues with, with speed off the edge. Um, but he's just like such a stalwart type of offensive lineman. And that does matter in the pros because you, these guys have to play through entries all the time. Um, so I think that's an option here. Even though it looks like a pretty big reach. What, what else are we looking at here? Because they have, they're pretty set in the secondary. I think he's offensive line. I mean, there's some places that could go at defense. I think the number one thing is can they help them win the season? I think the Texans have to go for a Super Bowl. Like they're going to give Stroud an extension this

year or next and they are at the end of that working contract window. The defense is elite. The defense can win a super. Kyle Shannon, don't take my word for. Kyle Shannon said the day the Super Bowl on television, the two defenses he thought could win a Super Bowl on their own if the offense didn't screw it up. We're Seattle and Houston and C.2 Stroud screwed it up. The Texans run it back. They hope they're healthy and they go for it. The offense lines the only way. They need to be able to the ball. The other. If there's no alignment that can start this year, they might not do it. So they did trade for or sorry, they did sign Braden Smith to be their right tackle. Yeah.

So they could go interior offensive line here. It wouldn't be that big of a shock. The other guy that I like is Emmanuel Pregnon from Oregon. Who can play this year if they had to do? And he's like a plug and play starter to me, even though he has like a lower ceiling. I think I'll go pregnon. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. Pregnon from Oregon.

Emmanuel Pregnon. Again, it's best player available kind of a myth sometimes. It's like sometimes they just take exactly as they need. And yeah, I think that, yeah. So now a 29th pick with the Chiefs, I see a lot of cornerbacks who have fallen. The Chiefs just let two cornerbacks go. I completely agree.

So the Chiefs brought some quarterbacks in, but I think this is where D.K, it's always weird to project the guy who's hurt, but I think this is, there's two cornerbacks from Tennessee that are the next guys left. It's Jermad Bacoy, who's the best, made probably the best quarterback in this draft if he was healthy,

but he toured his in December, didn't go to the, we went to the combine, didn't play last season, then didn't work out at the combine. If he does his pro day, like, it's probably fine.

But like, it's a little weird, but maybe you can rehab with my homes off his ACL, but it's that. But then he kind of got frame mocked by Colton Hood, who's the cornerback of Tennessee. Well,

wait, hold on here. Avion Terrell's still on the board from Clemson. And he kind of reminds me of, uh, the dude they just traded to the Rams whose name is escaping me. I won't lie.

Oh, oh, the Trelin, I won't lie. I didn't see Avion Terrell's there still there. Chiefs was totally, yeah, Avion Terrell Leof Chis. That is exactly what would happen. I think he can play outside.

He can play inside for them. He's awesome as a blitzer. He's a high intensity type of player. I think opinions on him are kind of all over the place, but I really like Avion Terrell. So now that gives the Chiefs, Spencer Fano at the ninth pick and Avion Terrell, the corner at 29.

And now we have, what would have been the Eagles pick is, oh, no, it was Miami. Now it's the Eagles after this trade. So the Eagles are now sitting at 30. There's one glaring guy here on the board that I'm like, I don't think he's going to fall this far. And that's Denzel Boston, the receiver out of Washington. Love him. And it makes sense for the Eagles.

If they ultimately end up trading. They swim brown and then they-A.J. Brown. And then they trade them. Eagles also, they highly value receiver. I mean, they constantly, they've spent on them. Yeah, they spend up on that position. They are also, by the way, just kind of churning the number three receiver spot over the last few years, trying to sign like former first round guys that kind of didn't work out.

John Dotson is the first one that comes to mind. But they kind of continue to churn that spot. And this could be at the very least, a good number three receiver in the short term that turns into the number two slash 1A1B with Devante Smith long term. So I like this for the Eagles. I would be bummed if they got Denzel Boston.

I think he's great. I really like him. Crazy agility for his size. Deky, do you think the Eagles would take Denzel Boston? and over like Zion, you have Zion Young from Missouri and edge rusher still there. I know that that's a little bit of a reach, but it's an edge rusher. And part of me is, I guess Denzel, you have Denzel Boston at 24th in your board. You have Zion Young at 42nd, but part of me is like, yeah, the Eagles, they need pass rushers.

But you're right. The Eagles also are a team I'm looking at for like the Clemson guys, Peter Woods, just because of, you know, they're falling. And just grab the value. Right, exactly. Yeah. Because it's Pierre Wood's going to fall out of the first round. I guess it's possible.

It's possible. He was the number one. player on some people's boards coming into the season, the number one player. And he's definitely falling off really howie Rosman move. Like we're just going to stack Peter Woods. You know what? Fuck it. You want to give the Eagles Peter Woods. And they're just going to stack. They can get a I want to give him. I want Denzo Boston to be. Okay. But I am a little dubious that Peter Woods is going to fall out of the first round. Because they lost Johan Dawson. He's like their other kind of ex receiver. They sign Marquis

Brown. But the Eagles don't really have an ex like big receiver. If they trade Aegee Brown, Eagles don't really have a guy. And the ex is probably kind of back this year. If if the Eagles didn't take. Denzel Boston, would you have given him to the Patriots with the next pick? Yeah. Oh, you're not asking me, but yeah. No, yeah, either of you. I think it's more fun to give Peter Woods to the Eagles and Denzel Boston to the Patriots.

And that is the point of the month draft. Yeah, if all we're doing is roster rating here, fine. I'm okay with that. I'm okay. The Eagles taking defensive tackles, I think they're a huge value. And I think I agree. Peter Woods is as good as people thought he was last year. That is very Howie Roseman thing.

So fuck, let's just give. Peter Woods is one of those guys This is like expression you hear He's like he's got beaten up enough You know what I mean? Sure People he's fallen far enough at this point He's still a really twitchy

Explosive interior defensive tackle Who can create disruption on the inside He has shorter arms I think that's an issue for him And the production fell off this last season So people are a little bit scared of him But he's still a twitchy Explosive interior alignment

And now at 31 if you give New England Denzel Boston and now their wide receiver group rounds out a little bit because now it's like Denzel Boston is this big outside, deep threat type. You have Romeo Dobbs who can do a little bit of everything. You have Kishon Booty, who in a complimentary role now looks pretty nice.

Now it's kind of not bad with the three of those guys. Kyle Williams is potentially still coming out. So we're giving Peter Woods to the Eagles at 30 and then the Patriots could take Denzel Boston is what we're saying. Yeah, you don't think so. Well, my concern is, so the variable, I think, wants big people in the first round unless it's an AJ Brown. Denzel Boston is huge.

Boston's big. Big? Well, no, but I meant big play, big positions. And Elliot Wolf, who is the GM for the Patriots, not really. He's like kind of co. I don't know. He's like a one B assistant. But his father, Ron Wolf, I just, I don't know if through the team that would take a first round receiver right now. Especially who who is the big guy that you like in this spot though. So Caleb Banks out of Florida is weird because he's a good defensive tackle, but he missed all but what, three games of the foot injury. Then he like, he broke his foot at the combine. I don't think he's going to be a first round player anymore. Yeah. And then if Peterwood's got. part of me is like, man, I'm looking at Jermond McCoy, the Tennessee cornerback is still there. And I'm like, the way Mike Vrable wants to play defense, if you had Christian Gonzalez and Germant McCoy is still there. If he recovers from the injury, if you can have two guys that could actually play man coverage, I think Jermad Bacoy is the guy that would go. Like, we still have I think the Patriots would, how many teams have two cornerbacks that can actually man up with almost anybody in the league? Like nobody. Yeah, not a lot of teams do that. That is a tremendous

schematic advantage that I think I don't think the Patriots a path I'd think they'd rather have a man cover corner than like an extra sacrificial extra see kind of have decent corners though Marcus Jones is a good nickel they have Carlton Davis and christian Gonzalez yeah but Carlton Davis was making plays in the playoffs because he was getting targeted like sometimes you hear a cornerbacks name a lot because they're throwing because the defense thinks the offense thinks they have an advantage Carlton Davis was signed in free agency but he's also how old like Carlton Davis 39 those guys I don't know at the other day it's this simple talent Tom McCoy never tore his ACL.

Is he a top eight pick? Maybe? Top 15. Top 15. Is he maybe the number one quarterback in this draft if he was healthy? Yes, but he's not healthy. I mean, he's like, yeah. I think, can we just go with what Craig said to make it simpler?

No, no, no. I'm not the drafter here. I'm not the GM. I'm the media. I changed my pick because I thought that's what we were doing. Fine. I was told there would be no math. I think we should do Peter Woods

What do you want? I don't think the Patriots would take Denzel Boston or Germad McCoy. I just don't. All right. Jermad McCoy, the cornerback. That leaves D.K.'s Seattle Seahawks at 30-12. Also, to your point, again, you have Germain McQuay higher on your board than Denzel Boston, just as we're saying. I know, but he's injured.

That's a huge variable. He's been beating up enough, as some people say. All right. So this leaves me with the 30-second pick for the Seahawks. which is super fun. There's a lot of players on the board who I really like here. I think, man, is there any way

that Denzel Boston falls out of the first round? I guess that's possible. It's the same as a tight end. There's so many receivers that the deeper positions, the scarcity, people reach for the thing that won't be there later,

and then those positions fall when it's deep. It's like running back last year. Like T. Higgins fell into the early part of the second round. Think about all the running backs last year that fell, quote, unquote, because there were so many running backs

no one started the run. Yeah. So I'm going to go, with one of my favorite players in this draft, super fun player to watch. I'm trying to think of what John Schneier would do here. I think since they signed Rashidjaheed to a bigger contract, I don't think they'd take a receiver,

especially since they run so many two receiver sets anyway. What do you think about Colton Hood? Would they tackle? They lost a lot of corner. Well, Colton Hood is definitely on the menu here just because he's a super athletic, long corner. The guy who I really want the Seahawks to take is Chris Johnson. from San Diego State.

Really? Go Aztex. He was sick. He's freaking awesome. And he plays an intense style of football. I think he would fit in with the CX defensive backs group. They lost a couple of corners. Well, they did resign Josh Job.

So I don't know if they would take a corner here. But I feel like corner is one of those positions where you can't have too many of them. No. It's like defensive end and quarterback. No Super Bowl teams ever said we have too many cornerbacks and too many defense teams. Yeah. And the only other thing, so I'm going to give them Chris Johnson, but the only other positions here,

which I'm kind of considering strongly are edge players. Our Mason Thomas, I think, is in consideration here. Zion Young from Missouri, Gabe Yacchus from Illinois and Jackus. I'm sorry if I'm saying that wrong. Derek Moore from Michigan, those guys, I think, make a lot of sense for the Seahawks because just keeping that stable of pass rushers,

you know, like full and have tons of guys that can rotate every week. I think that was a huge part of their success last year. but it's harder to find corners. And I just think Johnson plays exactly like they want their corners to play. I love it.

It's a great consolation prize for S. Issue not making March Madness is that they're going to have a player in the first round. Yeah. And honestly, if you look at the second round, talking about Denzel Boston falling, I mean, I guess we did we give Carnell Tate to, oh no, the Jets took Mackay Lemon.

But dude, the third pick is the Titans. They could take Denzel Boston, the fourth, the Raider. they could take Denzel Boston and the fifth, the Giants, they could take, like all three of those teams could take. And teams are going to be calling for those three spots too to try and move up. That's the thing. The Seahawks might move back.

The Patriots might move back. Oh, 100%. I can see the Seahawks moving back from the spot. That's actually probably what they will do because there's so many different options that they could go with here. Do we want to review it? Do I need to read every, all 32 picks or is that horrible podcast? Put it up on the screen.

People can read about it. The screen if you want to see it. And we'll also put, we'll post these. on Instagram too. So if you go to the Ring or Fantasy Football Instagram and you want to see the full mock draft, we'll post it, follow us on Instagram at Ring or Fantasy Football. And then why don't we just kind of recap, what are the things we learned from this? My thing I learned is that I think the teams that need offensive tackles are going to have to trade up because there's going to be a run. And it's like anything else where there's six,

seven guys that are like, well, we think you could be a starter. So if the Brownswater left tackle, you're going to have to trade up. You know what I mean? What? Okay. DK made a six, seven joke. Did I got I'm a little worried that it's a mind virus that's in my head. I know it does come up way more than it should. But DK's acknowledgement of it was the problem, not that you said it. No, I shook my head in disdain. I'll never do it again.

All right, what did you learn doing this? I think you're right, though. I think there's probably going to be a run on offensive alignment just because there's so few, you know, plug and play offensive tackles. I think we could see because of the depth of the receiver position, That's another one where you could see guys who are like locks and the quote unquote first round locks maybe fall into the early part of the second. That tends to happen. And then the Kenyan Sadiq thing falling would not not be surprised to see him fall.

And then I just don't know what to make of Jermad McCoy and how early he's going to go because of the injury. The hardest part of doing draft analysis, I think is trying to figure out where an injured guy is going to go. Right. Half the teams, it's like the Max Rosby thing, but like half the teams in the NFL might not be like, yeah, we passed the NFL. we passed his knee and then some teams might not pass his knee. So it's like literally doctors disagree on this. So it's impossible and nobody's going to go. And I don't know where I don't know where Peter Woods is going to go.

That is a big question in my mind as we did this mock draft is how far is he going to fall? Or is he going to fall at all? You know, because some teams might just look at what he did in 2024 and be like, we're going to take that guy. And then some teams will be like, you know, defensive tackles need it. And look at Seattle. They took Byron Murphy defensive tackles. Traff's over.

He's like, my night's over. Let's go get drunk. That was really fun. That was great. What? Playing the music or the mock trap? With my gavel. I felt great.

All right. Well, Craig, since you're hosting, I have this email here. And since you've been the talk about you want me to read the email? Yeah, I do. You said last episode you're talking about helping a Warriors fan. It's stressful. And I'm sure you enraged thousands. thousands of people.

And then you were like, but well, not like being worse here, watch it again. Anyway, so Alex send us an email. If you've had a good team, you know what I mean. All right, Alex says, for breakfast, a faye yogurt with honey on the side and a double espresso. That's a sexy breakfast right there. That's like when I do eat breakfast. That's what I'm going for. It sounds really good.

All right. Alex says, as you guys mentioned on the show on Monday, stress is a big part of rooting for your team. There is a professor from Murray State named Daniel Wan, and he has published a number of works over the years on the psychology of sports fandom. He identified eight different fan motives. Most are straightforward like group affiliation and entertainment, but my favorite one is eustress or euphoric stress? Interesting.

In other words, the emotional roller coaster of watching sports and the absolute elation one feels when your team wins is a core motive of sports fandom. So when Craig says he and his buddies freak out when the warriors are down 16, that stress is completely offset by the absolute joy when they complete the comeback and win championships. And that joy bonds him more to his team,

his friends, and sports in general. So being stressed about sports, is fun, right? This all comes from a Jets fan, so the U-Stress I felt was in 2010. You forked stress. Yeah. You're chasing that.

It's like you're chasing that high. Yeah. So it's BDSM. Sports stress is BDSM. It's like really painful. And then there's like, yeah, it's like you need to slap me.

Pain is pleasure. I mean, they're very close to one another. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that the whole thing? Is there like the little overlap in the brain?

We used to do 50 shades of gray, you guys. Maybe we should bring that back. Isn't it like when you have like something very hot, spicy hot sauce? Like that feeling is like pain, but it's also kind of euphoric, right? It's kind of an out-of-body experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like a spicy thing. There's a certain clueless.

You crave it. Yeah, it becomes. It is. It becomes addictive. It hurts so good. That's the point. Oh, I did. I was just learning the other day about someone.

It hurts so good. Someone was posting on Blue Sky the other day. I think Spencer Hall was talking about there's some guy who sells a hot sauce called a pucker butt pucker butt I thought it was made up but it's real like I just assumed

puckered butt wasn't real but there's a puckered butt pepper company and the point was if our hot sauce doesn't make your butt pucker then it's not pucker butt

yeah that that's that is a visual description that's not me it's the owner of of pucker butt hot sauce said that pucker butt

I can't imagine what the logo is it's should I Google it is it safe Pepper X, World's House Pepper. I don't know. I mean, I assume.

Puckerbutt Pepper Company. It's just a, well, their logo is like a flame. The grim reaper. But it is kind of in a circle, which sort of sends your mind to a certain body part. I don't know if they even, I think Puckerbutt is the logo. But yeah, we're on to something here about like sports are painful. That's the point. I almost forgot this was the whole point.

Yeah. Right. before we go we do have one other thing to hit oh god um dk please join me and everyone at home happy birthday to you happy birthday to you Danny keeps saying happy birthday dear hi Fitts happy birthday happy birthday happy birthday to you drink whiskey and rum go out and have fun

get plastered you bastard I don't know this one I really thought I was going to get away with it Hi Fitz you think we forgot Come on the big 3-1 dude Come on 30 was a gimmick now you're really in your 30s Yeah you're fucking me deep in it I do think I'm in my 30s no 31 is I'm in my 30s now

I for a long time 31 Oh, that's the first time I said it out loud. Wow. Everyone who's 23 is like, you feeling some euphoric stress right now? Yeah. Yeah. Wow, 31. You know that moment we, I've never, I just said the age out loud for the first time.

I'm 31. I don't know like I try that on. It's fine. I actually feel like I'm, oh, I'm an adult now. You know why? Sure. It's my birthday. DC this morning, 26 degrees.

Oh, got up at seven and went to the gym. Look at you. And, um, you know what? I don't know if past years on my birthday when it was 26 degrees. I would have gone to the gym. And you know what? I was there and I was like, I guess this is 31. You've turned over a new leave.

This is 31. If it's what you want for the birthday, I'm like eggs, make me the eggs the good way. Do you have any goals in your 31st year? Or I guess it's your year when you're 31. Because technically it would be like your 32nd year. I don't know. Ernestly, I think.

Because you're zero for a year, you know. Are we doing the, are we doing serious guy stuff? Are we deflecting? Yeah, do serious guy stuff. I'm telling you, my motto this is take care of your heart, you know. You mean literally or spiritually? Both. Spiritual nourishment.

That's kind of good. I actually like, like, actually like cardio stuff, just get like stronger muscles. As old's research about like, you need muscles and you get older. But also I just like, take care of my heart. I'm like, eh, that's about time. I think cardio really, as good as it is your heart, it's also equally beneficial to your brain. It just feels so good. The runner's high is a real thing.

Dude, you know what sucks? I got injured last week and I can't run. And it's been a huge problem. I got turf toe, I think. Ooh. And it is sucks. I think I'm 99% sure I have turf toe. Dude, it is one of the more.

I got to rename it. Severed foot. I have a torn ligament in my foot. Severed ligament foot. It is one of the more debilitating painful injuries to have because there's nothing I can do. I walk with a limp. I can't run. Can't play basketball.

No, not at all. I mean, I can barely walk like a mile. We finally heard what Turf Toe was after six years, which is there's basically, I think it's there's three legament or three tendons in your foot, and Turf Toe is tearing one of them. So it's really like you tore one third of the things that make your foot work. And I think I have a grade two or three strain,

and it says like four to six weeks of recovery. And I'm, I'm just have to rest. We're just slow running, literally and figuratively, the injuries actual NFL players have because I pull my hamstring. And all the whimsical setting went to pull my hamstring, you tore your leg. You, you pour your hand, you pulled your hamstring badly. I mean, it was bruised.

It was the four to eight weeks. It was like the, it was the middle September. And they were like, if you, they're like, you in theory could get back to stuff by Halloween. But bruh, if you read Darius thing, you don't want to do that. They're like, thank you. But brough. But, yeah, but wow. Sorry about your foot, Craig.

But yeah, no, it's. Yeah, that sucks, man. I think I'm going to try to start swimming just because it's the only thing I can do. Oh, there we go. Don Draper. I will say, high fits, it's good that you're getting into this stuff early. You know what I mean? Like 31.

that you got so much time to like worry about your heart. They have my heart in the first half. I think it's great that you're doing this. I will say as I've turned, I'm 43 now. And I've gotten into running in the last year, which I never thought I would do. I thought running is the stupidest sport. It's fucking painful. It sucks.

I don't understand why people do this. It's the boring. And now I like love it. It's so funny how that happens is you get older in life. You start to like do things that you used to like think we're so stupid. Without music? What's that? Raw dog, you run.

No, I haven't done it without music yet. I mean, I have done that before. Do you remember us talking about this? Craig? Deka didn't know this, but you remember us talking? When I said, run without music,

you thought I was crazy? Mm-hmm. And then I think you forgot your headphones one day. Yeah, I do it all the time. You just leave, I thought my friend Mike told me, he was a huge runner,

told me this, but my friend Mike who never was listening to show one time. I told him Tate Frazier came on. He was like, oh, sick. And then he turned it on. He's a huge runner, and he told me, and it really is true.

You kind of leave your thoughts and anxiety is behind. Like, you just think about them. And they say meditation is, or the way you might, one way you might want to meditate is it's kind of like picturing you're sitting at a river and there's all these like lily pads floating and your thoughts you think and then they just float away. And they're on the little lily pads. They're going away.

Running is like if the river is a road and you're the one moving. Like you were leaving behind all these anxieties. And it is incredible how much it is body over mind to degree. Like we're kind of just like will the beast. You have anxieties. You have cortisol. And you do have fighter flight and you need to either run or box like at the end of the day. You need to find something to do.

There's something to movement that is so important for our physiology or whatever. I don't have like the actual definition of it, but moving around and moving your body, whether you're walking, running, cycling, swimming, or whatever, your body just gets all fucked fucked up when you're not moving around, man. It's crazy. I watched this fascinating video about how your brain relaxes and how it's kind of a misnomer that, you know, you go to the beach and you sit in a chair and you stare at that. at the ocean and that's supposed to be relaxing.

And it's actually kind of not. Like you sit down, you stare at the water and then kind of 15 minutes and you're like, I'm bored. I guess I'll look at my phone. I need to read a book. I need to do something. And it was basically about how doing something passive, doing one task passively is kind of the best way for your brain to relax because when your brain has to think of 10 different

things at once, that is stress. But when your brain can just focus on one thing, it allows it to relax. And that's why I think I like cooking or baking or running. doing one thing allows your brain to like completely decompress and then the rest of it can be kind of like like the river just kind of flowing in and out if you focus on one thing it's actually a lot easier to do that than to just like sit and stare at something that's actually not that relaxing doing one thing is kind of relaxing

totally agree totally agree when I'm stressed doing something and you know even just listening to a podcast where you feel like you're accomplishing you're accomplishing more than one thing like de-stresses me because I'm both accomplishing something and then putting my body to like work or whatever. So you're saying everybody should turn on the podcast, D&AG, so you'll just put it on. Yes, absolutely.

Absolutely. Just let it play. That's really what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Big time. No, it's real though. Like I, to your point about running, because I actually think this is worth it.

And if anyone listen, I'm sure a lot of people listening are one better at working on doing this hell stuff than me, but also some people like everyone at some point has probably felt that they want to up their level. And DK, I think your story is interesting because it reminds me of what I'm trying to do this year, which is you started walking during the pandemic. Yeah.

And you didn't really make time to work out. And then you kind of became a father. And then you were like, you kind of had that moment, right? And so you started walking and you would listen to audio books. And I think we used to joke that like, whether you can say that is reading or not. Whether that counts as reading a book, if you listen to it. I consumed that book. You listened to the book.

Sure. Yeah. I'm aware of what happens in the book. Yeah. I get why people... If you read the plot of a movie, did you watch the movie? Yeah, but I heard every word in the book. I'm not weighing it.

But I think it's interesting because I feel like if you get older, you realize cliches are cliches for a reason. Totally. You literally walk before you run and thinking literally carve... It's about carving out the space in your day every day. And you carved out... It took you like, what, five years to carve out the space where you're like, I'm going to walk every day and I'm not going to miss it.

And that point where it's hard to start to eventually like you get to the, it's like, this is how Jason Tatum described shooting basketball is like, I don't practice till you make it. You practice so you can't miss. You start and it's hard to get, go on a walk, two hours. Are you kidding me? And then you get to the point where you're like, I'm not going to miss this. Yeah.

And then you started running. And that's actually what I'm trying to do with going to the gym is my actual goal with being honest with 31 is getting the point where I just would never miss that. Yeah. That's honestly all I want out of this year. So that's what when I say it, that's what I mean is I want to get to the point where in the habits, I actually love it. Yeah.

Yeah, not to get too earnest, but there's something empowering about finding a rhythm and getting into a routine of working out and making it a big part of your daily life, even though it's, you're like, we're busy. The work is stressful. Life is stressful. Having a kid is constant logistics, but carving out time to work out every day or not every day, but three or four or five times a week, there's something so empowering. It's like, oh, I can actually do that. I can, I, because for a long time in like, I would say my late 30s and into the pandemic, I gained like 20 pounds because I was just fucking sitting around and not doing anything. And I was like, man, so is this just the trajectory I'm on for the rest of my life?

I can't do anything about this. I'm just going to be continually getting in worse shape. And then figuring out a way to reverse that. And I lost like 30 pounds walking and starting it to work out and all this stuff. And it's like, damn, I can actually fucking do this. I know that this is like overly earnest. but it's like crazy when you realize you can actually do something about it.

It's funny, but like it matters. You've been working, I forget when you started going to, like you have that workouts you do each week or the specific ones. I forget. Yeah, I work out with my buddy Adam like three to four times a week. You used to offer to move it for our recordings. And now you don't, which I still respect. No, but I mean it.

Like you're like, no, no, no. Like I'm, this, this is, I'm not changing this. Which is the point though. Yeah. All right, we're getting down a different road and maybe Craig's going to play the music company. How long, speaking of a routine thing,

how long until you guys do your first like five minutes scroll in the morning? Because some people, I think at this point I'm concerned for most people under 40, I think people start their day. You grab your phone alarm and then people just are on their phone, and that's how you begin each day. And I think the biggest thing that has happened for me in terms of trying to have that morning routine

and actually get everything has been delaying how long I am on my phone as long as possible. I, that's, yeah, that's a big thing. Recently, I set a limit on my phone. You can do it through Apple, like you're seeing your settings. I set a limit for how long I can be on my, on like TikTok, Instagram and Twitter. And it basically all three of them combined, I do less than an hour a day is my goal. So basically like 20 minutes per app, which I can usually accomplish lately.

And I've been trying hard to do that. But the problem is, is in the morning, what's changed about working from home is I don't get up and scroll. I get up and check email and Slack. And I basically, I wake up at 7.30. and I'm working at 735 because I have an email. I have two slacks. I have two work texts. That's where West Coast time bites you.

Totally. Anti-sports thing is you are starting behind every day. Because even if like in theory your day starts at nine, like I can't just be up between 730 and nine and like not on my phone or making breakfast or doing and not looking at like the six slacks notifications I have. I can't ignore those until nine. I just can't. Yeah.

It's weird. I really do. And I'm, look, I'm not trying to be like, I've solved this or anything. I haven't. But for me, what's working for me and I don't want to stop is brick. That thing is working for me. I'm trying to brick my phone. And I'm like, if you need to look at social media or whatever or like a Slack,

I'm like, do it on your computer. Because the truth is you weren't designed to be addicted to your laptop. They designed it to be addicted to your phone. You're not addicted to your phone scrolling. It's like, I can't wait for my, I can't. Honestly, I don't think I can. It's hard for me to wait for my elevator to come to my building without checking my phone. And it's like, you need to hit.

You can't do anything, like you said, passively. You can't just sit there. You used to have 12 cigarettes a day. And now it's like, I need to pick up my phone 180 times or whatever the hell you pick up your phone. And you can feel it when this thing, this brick or whatever you use, like, whatever the limiter is, when it shuts down the apps, you realize how often you open your phone instinctively your hand goes to. Oh, I do. I do. And how quickly the urge passes.

That is the, like if, you know, and some people think they have ADHD or whatever you have, you weaponize it. And it's like, actually, that urge to look at Instagram or whatever your social media is, TikTok, like, I've been amazed how quickly it passes. And I'm like, do I want to go upstairs to get my laptop? I'm like, nope. I'll look at this later. I've been trying to learn how to be comfortable in silence and not only that, but almost seek it out where there are times where I'm like, oh, on this trip down to my car to move the car in the parking garage that'll take five minutes. Like, I won't take my phone. And I'll just try to like, as dumb as it sounds, like live in the moment for the five minutes where I'm going down and waiting for the elevator.

getting in my car, getting back in the elevator and walking down the hallway. Like a lot of those times I'd have my phone. I'd be like looking at something. I'm sending a text. And it's like, I'm going to take five minutes and not do that. And I try to stack those up as much as I can throughout a day. Yeah, it's huge. It's really relatable what you said about how when you have an app limiter or whatever,

it doesn't allow you to look at your apps. Like how it's just a compulsion to open up your phone and click on Instagram or X or whatever it is. And then when you have those limitors are you take the apps off your phone for a certain amount of time or whatever to try and like break that cycle you get you open your phone. You're like, oh, damn, like there's nothing to do here. Why am I even like? I'm like, I guess I'll open to New York Times. That's neat. That's where I scroll.

I scroll our email account, which I love. I love getting emails from people. I love, I try to respond. I know I can't respond to them. I love scrolling through our emails and everyone who emails bring your face and football. It's so much fun scrolling the news. scrolling. Like that's productive and like that's a good scroll.

but I really, if you think of it this way, like, if you ever want to really, like, get a little nervous, if you ever look at your screen time, and I think the screen time is second only to a nude of something I don't want other people to see about me. I don't want them to see how much is on the phone. A nude. And if you ever do the math, oh.

Are those out there? Send nudes. No, but I, this one B is, I don't want anyone to see a time I'm on my phone because you can convince yourself you can work from your phone. But, like, if you just, how many hours am I on this each day? And then you multiply that by 365, It's great. It's horrible. That's like a, it's like, it's like a month, dude. It's like a month.

If you think about it, I know some people are like, I don't want to pay 30 bucks to get this brick. I'm like, okay, cool. Time is money. What would you pay to have another month each year? And then it's like, it's a cliche, but it's like, it's like, most billionaires would actually give you a billion dollars back for another billion seconds. Right. And it's like, if you could, you're young and you're like, oh, I'm on my phone a lot. It's like anything that even has a 10% chance of getting you an hour back. day is like incalculably valuable. So like I don't know. Now I don't want to get lectury, but like that's that's I guess what I'm thinking about at 31 is like I want to my phone less. I want to move more. I want to learn to sit in silence with my thought. Yeah. Look, alcohol, they ended up doing an alcoholics anonymous cigarettes. They ended up doing nicotine patches and all these things. And it's like the truth is there's going to be five or six different ways that people end up trying to use their phone less. Because spoiler, like the first version of us using phones like is not perfect. And we're all addicted to it. So I'm trying to be

on my phone less, trying to move more. Movement. I like that a lot. But even if you don't want to get brick and pay for it, the Apple like screen time function, try it because you can set a time limit. And it may, I mean, you can still open the app and you have to type in a code

and you have to tell them how much longer you want. It just adds like four steps to the process and it does limit you. So I would at least try that. It's easy. No, it's good. Look at us, dude. The 30s.

You just become so introspective in your 30s, you know? start to really reevaluate things. All right. Thank you, D.K. Thank you to Craig. Thank you to Jackie and everyone for my birthday and all these great things. Thank you to my parents for having me.

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Totally. I celebrate her early work, especially. You know. So I will admit as I've gotten older, I don't know how you feel correct. I feel like I've aged into just loving pop music. But I've always loved it. But I love EDM too. And the same way our show is like kind of series up front, but then becomes like this.

Is this in front partying the back? Yes. Yeah. Charlie X, the X's songs are like pop music. But like if you stay long enough, they're like become like boiler room sets. And I don't know what that means. I'm fucking EDM like a rave. And they're rave in the back.

And I love that. I really respect Charlie XeX in her ability to cultivate a vibe successfully. She's the only pop album. Brad is a pop album that feels like, and not underground is the long term, but like you can play it. It's hard to have a pop album or like five songs. She can play it a rave. They're phenomenal.

Yeah. She created like a legitimate culture around an album. The rave thing is sort of one thing that I just can't understand. That's like when I think of the differences between generations. I'm just like, I don't understand that. What do you mean, your generation? The kids. Well, my generation had raves, but I feel like the newer generations are way more than to it.

Seattle in the 90s? That was grunge, baby. Same shit. But it's different music. It's totally different. But it's like you're in a pit and you're like disassociating. Okay, but the music is very different. Yeah, but like the idea is the same.

And the vibes are very different. How different is the vibe between like doing Molly? The dress. Like, do Molly go see Arles'Rlegrime? The dress? You have a problem with the wardrobe? No, it's just different. Well, what is the vibe?

It's the most attached from the younger generation I feel. That's the peak of my being like, I could never do this shit. I don't know. I get how you could listen to Chris Lake right now or like Fred again and be like, I don't get this. But is the vibe like, I'm going to do Molly and dance and like. Well, that doing drugs and listening to music isn't like something I'm against. I just, the vibe at a rave is like I could never do. I could never get into that.

That's fine. I would not, I'm not, I'm not, a rave doesn't sound fun to me either. but I still like dancing to music at a bar. No, I'm not saying that. I rave every now and that's pretty great. No, I'm just like, you know, I just don't get it. That's when I feel the oldest is when I see people attending raves. I'm like, just that's nothing.

I could never do that. You know, it's funny. Just no, thank you. I was at a music festival once and I was younger. I was in the front. Back in your 20s. Yeah, I was Porter Robinson, who I love. and at the back I actually found Robert Mace

who was at the very back. And he was like, yeah, I was you once. He's like, you know, the longer you come to these, the further back you sit and the further back. And I was like, that is the truest shit ever. It's like every year I still go to artists, but I'm like, you know what? I stand a little further back.

Yeah. It's like that onion, that the onion article. Man actively enjoying concert cannot wait for it to be over. The truest thing. It's unbelievable. Nothing more true has ever been spoken. And we're being played off. There it is.

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