The Ringer NFL Show - Must-Add Players for Week 11

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

We run through the injuries from Week 10 and offer up our must-add players for Week 11 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. Must-Adds RBs (05:00) WRs (18:00) TEs (29:00) QB Streamers (36:00) DEF Streamers (41:00) Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What's up everybody? I'm JJ John D. Stramski. And I'm Jason Gough, and if you haven't heard, the ringer has gone local. I'm bringing the fire. I'm bringing the rain from the Big Apple with my show, New York, New York. And I'm reping Shy Town with my new show The Full Go on All Things Chicago. We've got episodes three nights a week with all the reaction to the local teams and guests. Plus bonus episodes around all the big games and storylines.

So whether you're uptown, downtown, downtown, in the burbs, or a transplant. Make sure you follow New York, New York, and the full go on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Coralbeck. We're going to go through waivers today after week 10, all the guys you should add to your team for this week. We're coming up on, oh my God, week 11?

Is that where we're at? It's bizarre. That's wild. We still have so long to go, though. I'm like, oh, week 11, the season's ending. Just kidding. We have nine more weeks. I love how every single NFL season we're like, wow, time is passing.

And yeah, that's how it, that's what happens. adding one week to the NFL season, though, feels like you're adding another half, like a whole half of a season. I really agree. I feel that the whole extra season thing's been made way too big of a deal. It's one game, whatever.

False. False. I'm with you, DK. It feels really long to me. Maybe I'm just not used to this to the football season. Every off season I get used to it. I don't know.

Yeah, it's like adding a mile to the end of a marathon. You're already dead almost at the end. And then you add a mile. I don't have extensive marathon running. his like experience? Well, I don't either.

I've actually know you have any marathon running history? I am immunized against marathon running. Yes. All right, we're going to go through waivers

that buys this week. There's only two. It's just the Rams in Denver are on by this week. So if you have Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford and Darrell Henderson, Melvin Gordon, Jerry Judy,

Cortland Sutton. TBA, you're probably going to bench Cortland Sutton anyway. So there's really four or five players total that matter for this buy week. It's pretty good. Yeah.

Injury news that we're going to hit before we do showdown time. Aaron Jones has this MCL injury. They're saying it'll be out one to two weeks. That's what Adam Schaeftor reported. Realistically. I bet it's three. It's going to be three weeks. Yeah, they have the buying week 13.

So he's definitely going to miss this week against Minnesota. And then the Packers have this choice of, okay, does Aaron Jones play in week 12? Or do you sit him out one more game and give him two extra weeks to get healthy when he's already had this history of MCL injuries? I feel like you're not going to see Aaron Jones for three weeks. I would probably agree. agree. And they have a great, what are they eight and two? Like, I don't think their, if their season was on the line, maybe he would play. But in the same way that Kyler Murray probably shouldn't play this week, because they have a buy the following week. I don't think Aaron Jones should play that week. So with that said, AJ Dylan is probably a top 10 running back right now, D.K. Obviously, if you have him, if he's available in your league, pick him up, like he's the number one waiver, pick him up, D.K., really, it's more question of, is A.G. Dylan, a top 10 running back every week that Aaron Jones is out? And is he basically an automatic must play, don't think about its start for the next two weeks if Aaron Jones misses him? time. Yeah, I think so. I think the simple answer is yes. He number one has looked really good. Number two, they're a run balance team. I think they want to run the ball a lot. They're the type of,

they're the type of team that can get a lead in a game and then, you know, just turn to their run game as the fourth quarter goes along, you know, ice the game as it were. And so I think, yeah, this is, this is not a no-brainer, but I do think, especially next week against Minnesota, like it's a very strong play. I'm guessing the week after that, he's still going to be the main guy, the only guy. And so, yeah, fire him up. It's still in time for two weeks at least. Can we also just say I'm happy for Aaron Jones? The poor guy was crying and hopefully, you know, this is just a blip on the radar in his career.

Yeah, that's definitely good news. Like this is like one, I guess, best possible news after we knew that he had an MCL because it looked like he tore his ACL, like based on the reaction and how he had to be helped off the field, all that stuff. So only missing a few weeks, that's great. This is, yeah, this is definitely something that they work on. Another win for your theory that nothing makes sense watching injuries. I'm uncomfortable with the success because it seems very strange to be like, yeah, see that guy got hurt?

It's like, look at me. Like, it's not really the vibe I'm going for, but it just continues to be true that every time I see a player get hurt and I have a reaction. That reaction has been wrong 100% of the time. I have not been right about the severity of an injury one way or the other this entire season. It's only this year, though. It's not like something that's happened consistently over the years, I feel like. It's just this year, it's bizarre a world. There are obviously injuries that surprise you, but I just feel like this season in particular,

the ones where I'm like, that's what T.J. Watt and their example. Apparently he's going to play. Yeah, or maybe, yeah. The Chase Young looked bad. Oh, is he? Wow. He is in fact out for the season. So it's not exactly foolproof. But yeah, I don't know if I want to be known for this theory. It's like not really much. No, you should. Lean into it. I really want to. Design your whole brand

around. If I lean in, I might hurt my MCL or something. And it won't seem that bad, but then I'll just be really bad. That's your whole Twitter bio. Like, I'm the injury predictor guy. Did you guys see that thing about Josh Rosen's? Just somebody put this in NFL Slack. Josh Rosen's Twitter profile? The background, of his Twitter profile is of him speaking in front of the Miami Dolphins press

conference. His Twitter photo is him on the Niners. Or no, his Twitter photo it might just be him, but his bio says San Francisco Niners quarterback and he is currently on the Falcons. The bios of the Dolphins. If I were Josh Rosen, I would also have gotten off Twitter a long time ago. Yeah.

Three teams. Josh, figure it out. He's on the Falcons. Like, I legit. He's the back quarterback. He played. He threw a pick at his first past. He played in a game. Wow. Who is this guy? What a time for Josh Rosen. Okay.

Let's get to showdown time. We're going to go through each position and give our number one waiver wire pick. And if we have the same guy, we'll do a trivia tiebreaker. People know how this goes. And if not, it's not particularly complicated. If you have showdown time questions, emails at ringer fantasy football at jml.com. The white font's been an innovation. We'll get to that later when we do showdown time.

Okay. Again, AJ Dylan, if he's out there, you should have AJ Dylan. But assuming he's not there. D.K., who's your number one waiver pick for running, back this week. All right. So I'm going to start this out with a huge caveat. My basement flooded last night. Right after I finished the pod with you guys on Sunday night, long day at the office, as it were, went downstairs and my basement was flooded, my hot water heater and my furnace both filled with water, really good stuff. So I've had a pretty chaotic night and morning. So I didn't

spend a ton of time. You guys are going to have to put me in my place. Nobody cares. People need waiver picks. No one cares about the safety of your home, your family. Drop all that. Let your house rot and tell people whether... Do you want to hear about the sump pump? Tell people about whether Eno Benjamin will have a high snap share next week. That's what the people want. Here's the sum, these are the sump pump picks of the week for me. Wait, we don't explain what a sump pump is. Is that what you have to do? Sump pump is, it's a pump that pumps water out of my basement and into the street. It was actually kind of a cool thing to play with this morning because that thing just churns out water.

A little silver lighting on your morning. Yeah. It's like one of those things where, you know, you learn about a new tool and you're like, this fucking thing is awesome. This thing's got power. All right. So who is the sump pump ad for this week? Oh, so wait. No, no, no.

Now the whole thing's been muddled for me because is the sump pump a positive or a negative? Sump pump is a positive. I love it. It's a powerhouse. A.J. D.D.D.D.D. The sump pump is a savior. The sum pump is a savior. This is like finding like a gem on the waiver wire.

Getting that so the flood is like you have your injured running backs and the sum pump is like the guy who saves you from the awful backfield. Exactly. Exactly. So I'm going with Ramandre Stevenson of the Patriots, 32% rostered in Yahoo League. So he's still out there in a bunch of them. 20 rushes, 100 yards, two touchdowns was in the passing game as well, four catches for 14 yards. And he's been like being utilized in the passing game quite a few. times when he's been active on game day.

So he's kind of been building to that. I think he's a very good player. I do think Damien Harris is going to come back and kind of like not ruin the party, but muddy things up a little bit. However, I do think he is worth adding at this point in the case that maybe Harris ends up missing more time. It's always possible or if Harris gets hurt again or if they just start using Ramandre Stevenson a lot more.

We'll see. But I think he's definitely worth picking up because the Patriots are a good run team, the good offensive line. they want to lean on these guys. Like he had 20 carries. Like his usage this week was incredible. So I think he'd be my first choice based on talent, situation, and like the trajectory of the Patriots going forward,

like the style of ball they want to play. Yeah, I went with him too. I don't think there's a guy this week on the waiver wire that you can pick up who will kind of take on full possession of the workload in their backfield. There's nobody. So the remandre thing, you know, it's hard to predict what Belichick's going to do,

but you have to think that Stevenson is going to earn himself a bigger role after how he's played. So even if Harris comes back, I don't like anybody else who's splitting time on their team more than I do like Ramondrey, who I think will split with Harris, but I like him the most against the Falcons this week. And the other aspect for Ramandre,

obviously he was like the RB2 this week, is that the Patriots play on Thursday night, so we don't know if Damien Harris will be activated in time. So how injury reports work is that on Monday teams make like an estimate, which is like, we know you didn't have practice today, but if you did, can you give us a guess

and Damian Harris was a did not participate in their fake practice report. But considering there on Thursday, that actually does matter. So just keep that in mind that Remandre might just be the starter again on Thursday night football if Damon Harris isn't cleared in the next two days. Was he your first pick, Hyphids? Yeah, he's mine. For that reason, really. Because for everything you guys said of what his role will be if Harris returns.

But he also just could be another top ten running back again this week if Harris isn't active. So yeah, Ramanji is my number one. Go into a little showdown time. Three way. We're starting strong. I think we haven't had a, we haven't had a triple showdown time in a while, I feel like, so I'm happy we're starting hot here. I feel like we have. Maybe not around running back.

I think running back is been a little splintered. No, I mean, we haven't had a showdown time for every position on our way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, you're actually, it has been a while, you're right. Yeah. All right, let's do it. We are going with the Ramandre Stevenson showdown time. Hell yeah, D.

How many gallons of water to D.K. Sump pump out of his basement today. TK what's your guess? What is your guess? So the specs of our pump was, we were told it can pump 50 gallons a minute. Whoa.

I believe. That's one of the things I would tell people about the stats they threw out. How's someone supposed to like verify that? So I would say it took about 20 minutes or so to get the water out. Wow.

So it was a lot. It was going to take us like a full 24 hours. 50 gallons a minute for 20 minutes. That's a thousand gallons. I don't know. Does that sound like a lot? I don't know. That's probably too much.

I don't know. I don't know. And let's be honest, it wasn't complete, like, it wasn't like a fire, like, it literally was you attach like a fire hose to this pump and then like run it out to thing. I wouldn't say it was like the pressure was like a fire hose. So I'm guessing that was like the peak performance. Maybe it was like, you know, 10 gallons a minute or something like that. In any case, a lot of gallons, though.

Hundreds of gallons, I'd say. That is many gallons. Wow. Okay. So that isn't actually my question. I just thought. Okay. But maybe it's too soon in retrospect

since that was today. No. Never too soon. Okay. Actual trivia. You guys want to do actual trivia question here? Yeah. This is from Elliot.

Elliot. How many playable characters can you use throughout the Mario Kart franchise? Oh, man. We keep getting these video game things, video game questions. People like video games. apparently. Craig, I feel like,

will be really mad at himself if he doesn't get this. Because this is more Craig's Willhouse. Craig's pinching, like, his note, like right by his eyes. There have been so many Mario Carves made. And they all probably feature. That's my concern. I don't think I've played...

I feel like there's a lot of characters I don't know, really in the newer ones. Yeah, because you have to think there's always going to be the core cast of characters, you know, like your eight cores, but then they're kind of cycling in new ones, you know, like they came up with like, baby Bowser and like stuff like that.

So I'm gonna go with... I don't know those. I have a number of my head. Does everybody have an answer? Yeah, I got one in mind. I'm just guessing blindly. I'm gonna go with 35. Oh, I was gonna say 32.

Oh, wow. Oh, real? I was gonna say 50. Okay. Okay. What we got? All right, let's see here. Playable characters you can use throughout Mario Kart.

The answer is... 87. Wow. Holy shit. That's a lot. is the chain chomp one of them that makes sense though because there's so many

there's been so many years of Mario Kart I know I just can't I can't even believe there's that many characters uh yeah the chain shop is a power up you get in some of the games in some of the Mario Kart games Mario Kart double dash on GameCube is a phenomenal game I'm just saying sometimes I think it'd be fun to get back into video games because I haven't been into video games in a very long time

I'll age myself if I say how long it's been but then I also think about like what it would be like to have free time. And I sort of just like wistfully remember that period of my life where you actually have free time. So anyways, I'd love to play that ghosts of, what is it, what's the ghost of, oh, ghost of Sushima. I love ghosts of Sushima. Oh, my God. That looks incredible. The one we go samurai. Samurai. Yeah, that is incredible. People always share like the visuals and stuff from that online. And I'm always like, man, it'd be nice to have free time. It's Red Dead in feudal Japan. And it's Red Dead was my favorite game

that I played it. Red Dead I actually didn't play video games for six years and Red Dead got, I bought a PS4 just to play Red Dead and writer-er-Rowls. I could never get into those types of video games. I was such like a Super Smash Brothers Mario Kart type of guy, like Star Fox when I was playing on N64 as a kid.

I never got into like the single-player like adventure-based gaming. I couldn't do it. I don't know why. No, I, yeah, all right. Well, speaking of single-player adventure, I have my single player. I have Ramandres.

So I got second here? Who's next? I don't remember your guesses. I don't know which is me. I was a little ahead of him. God, I don't really love the rest of these people. So I kind of have two, I have a long-term play, who I honestly might do.

I guess if I was desperate and I literally needed to start somebody next week, God, I think I would maybe go with Deonté Foreman. They're playing Houston. He's outperforming Agent Peterson. He just looks like the better running back and hopefully they just kill Houston and run the ball a lot. I'd probably go with him.

But if I didn't need to start somebody off the waiver, wire this week. I think I would add Sony Michelle just because he's the last remaining elite handcuff on the Wavermire in my opinion. He's the last AJ Dylan out there. So I would do him if I didn't need anybody this week. If I needed somebody this week, I would do Deonté Foreman after Ramandri Stevenson. Yeah, I agree with that. So I'm going to take Sony since you take Deontay. But what if you had to do for this week? Who would you take after Deontay? So I think it would come down to... I mean, you could still be Sony. I mean, he gets like seven, eight years. I think, I mean, I'm going to throw an out there and tell me if I'm

canceled on this subject. But Wayne Galman for the Atlanta Falcons. Now, I know that there have been times, perhaps some of you remember, in the very distant past when I've plugged a Falcons running back. And I don't remember how that turned out. But Corderole Patterson has a high ankle sprain.

Or at least it seems he has a high ankle sprain. They're still testing it. I don't know. It's been like a long day of them still testing this ankle. But it's like they have a Thursday football game. I'd be really surprised the Cordill Patterson plays on Thursday football after any kind of high ankle sprain. And it's probably a multi-week injury.

Either way, there's an opening that backfield. And Wayne Galman just played better than Mike Davis. Now, you can't just look at the splits of the carries because the Falcons were down like 30 and then 40 points in this game. So it's not like representative that Wayne Galman, but he, Wayne Galman did close out the second half. But honestly, I kind of feel like Wayne Galman will just get the work over Mike Davis on Thursday football going forward.

I don't know, but. If Wayne Galman did get the work, he looked better than Mike Davis, and if both Patterson was out and Wing Galma were playing, I think that that is like a desperation option. And then honestly, maybe like a three or four week thing. Having said that,

I'd rather have Deonté Foreman for sure. Yeah. Ty Johnson's still out there for the Jets. He's still a past catching machine over the last few weeks. If Mike White continues to start, I don't see why that would change. So he's the guy to keep in mind. Boston Scott's still out there.

The Eagles are running the hell out of the ball. Miles Sanders' status is unknown at this point. Like he's still in the IR, but he may be coming back soon. We'll see desperation flex time. Amir Abdullah. He's still getting touches in this offense. In PPR particularly, could be useful. I loved Amir Abdullah in college.

He was at Nebraska, right? Yeah, dude, he was awesome. I was so disappointed when he really didn't, like, turn into a superstar. And then, you know, Benjamin is still out there. I think that he's helped by the fact that he's not named Robert Woods. Yeah. That's why he's a bad name, you're saying? No, he's a great name.

Well, he has a great name, but also he was awesome. I'm in college. Like, he was a really talented, like, multifaceted runner. I thought he was the second coming of C.J. Spiller. And then he kind of was. Yes. Fair.

So, yeah, those are the groups guys. But I would think I would choose Sony here. I think that's a good one. God, Mike Davis, man, just when we thought, I mean, he was so close to being officially pronounced dead. And now he's going to stay on fantasy life support because Cordarell is out. Can you guys imagine if,

now that I've plugged Wayne Galman Mike Davis then it's gonna be a really tough conversation next week burn book wise waiver wise we're not gonna I think if Mike Davis is a big game this week you can burn me put me in the burn book I think this is the number one thing I'm rooting for now burn burn burn burn burn me okay can we burn up a member of the pot like you're just not allowed

to be on the pot anymore I don't know we'd have to feel it'd be for one episode yeah all right wide receiver All right, DK, number one wide receiver for this week. Oh, this one's tough. This one's very tough. Yeah, they're kind of... Ultimately, I decided...

This one is probably stupid. I decided to go with Marcus Johnson for the Titans, who is rostered in exactly 0% of leagues right now. He didn't do jack shit when Julio was, like, in the game and on the roster and ready to go and ready to play. However, when he, when Julio's been out, he's actually stepped up and played pretty well. Last week he had, or on Sunday, should say he had five catches for 100 yards, He has really good speed.

Like this is a 4-4 guy. He's got good size. He's been around the league. Like he's more of like a journeyman type receiver. But I remember this guy from a few years ago because the Seahawks traded for him from the Colts. So he's kind of bounced around. He hasn't really done much. But he's experienced.

Again, he's kind of like a journeyman, veteran with good size, good speed, all that stuff. And now he's in a role where he's going to run a lot of routes. He ran the second most routes. behind only AJ Brown last week and played the second one snaps behind AJ Brown. So he is the de facto number two in this offense. Again, it's kind of a rough offense

to like hit your wagon too because they don't pass a ton and right now they're not playing that well. But I mean, if you're looking for a guy who's running, he's running a lot of routes and getting a lot of snaps and getting targets. And this is what we're looking for on the waiver. If you're desperate this week, I think Marcus Johnson could be a flex for you.

Let's play our favorite game. Where did this random wide receiver go to college? D.K. Where to go to college? Oh, man. I don't know. I don't know. Dayton. Texas. Texas. That was way off. I was the opposite of Dayton in terms of college.

He's been in a league for a while. He got drafted a few years ago, right? He's 27. Yeah. So is this, first of all, I think, because Rashad Bateman is owned under 40% in, like, ESPN, but is a huge disparity in Yahoo. I think we're kind of like phasing with Rashad Bateman out of. of this exercise, because I think once we plug someone for a month, we would take Rashad Bateman

all over all these guys. Absolutely. Aspen percentages are wonky. They're always off. As would Christian Kirk, AJ Green, all those, like, any of those guys. But like, the guys this week, I almost want to talk about them together because the candidates, I think, I guess

we'll begrudgingly put Marcus Johnson number on two, but like Marcus Johnson, Ray Ray McLeod had a big game for the Steelers. Like, Treyquan Smith is back for the Saints. There's others. But I guess I kind of look at like this is like the weakest group to add

this is the weakest week to add a receiver. I feel like all season. There is no sump pump at wide receiver. There's no sum pump. There's no savior. Wait, so Hyphitz, did you have, you had Marcus Johnson number one? Yeah, but like begrudgingly.

It's like only because I had, but realistically I wouldn't add a receiver this week off waivers. Are we going to count? I'm doing Sterling Shepherd. he's 34% rostered in Yahoo. Is that fine? What's his status?

Have you seen lately? No, that's the thing. They basically were like, he's not playing in week nine because he had an injury, but then they had a buy, and they're like, we're assuming he'll be back

this week, and we haven't heard anything. So I'm assuming he'll be back. He had a quad injury, but I just like, they're playing the bucks, but like Sterling Shepard's had like three, like, awesome games this week

and he's only played like six. He's like actually probably the safest pick you can make off the waiver wire if he plays. he essentially... He didn't practice today on Monday. He was working on the side, like individual stuff on Monday. We don't know what that means for the game yet. If he's healthy, he's my number one.

So for what it's worth on Marcus Johnson, I'm going to stick with Marcus Johnson, although I think there's a lot of variability around here on like who you need and like what you need this week. I saw this from Heath Cummings. He says, don't be too quick to dismiss Marcus Johnson. His target share in the three games this year without Julio, week five was 23.8. Week 8, 15%. week 10 last week

22.2. So he's gotten pretty good target rates in the games that Julio hasn't played. Julio's out at least two more weeks. So yeah we are on IR. I don't think we said that. Yeah. So I don't know. It's it's definitely like I think Hyfitz, I agree with you. It's, it's, you don't have to add a receiver this week if you like really don't have to. There's no like must add type guys. But he is I think a fill in

for your flex spot if you need one. God, man. Julio going on IR and I was just when I was making these rankings and I was looking at Sterling Shepard and these Giants receivers who are always hurt and Julio going on IR with another hamstring injury. I started to think that NFL teams for really specific guys should just start resting players like the Spurs used to do with like Tim Duncan

and Tony Parker and Manu. Like for Sterling Shepard, Julio, Will Fuller, Sequin, they should just have baked in extra bye weeks. Just like, oh, you know what? Will Fuller's just not going to play this week. We're just giving them a week off. Sequin, he's going to have four by weeks in the 18 game season.

They should start doing it. Imagine how pissed everyone would be about that. it does make sense though you know like sterling shepherd cannot play 16 games it's impossible just start sitting them every four weeks that's the only way yeah I think they play him when he's healthy okay Craig you want to give us a this is a Marcus Johnson showdown time

that's one of the three or four saddest ones we've had all year yeah listen I have it's his sullen voice right now just depressed he's crestfallen okay it is the Marcus Johnson kind of a boring name showdown time all right here is So who's it between me and Hifitz? Yes.

Or is it all three of us? Okay. Just you two for Marcus Jensen, because I took Sterling. Question. This is from Pedro. Pedro. How many canals are there in Venice, Italy? Ooh.

Really good question. Yeah, I'm trying to picture the map now. Have first answer at Hifitz? You've said you've never been to Europe, right? DK., have you been to? I've been to Europe. Oh, you have? Have you guys been to Venice?

I have. Yeah. Okay. I've been there a couple times, actually, randomly. Flash. I know. No big deal. Hyphus,

when I click these... Flex, if you're literally directly asked the question. When I click these links... Oh, I see, I see. Wait. When I click these links,

like, nothing pops up. I got to, like, Google this. I'm just curious how they, like, separate what a canal is. It basically is asking, like, how many streets are there in Venice. Thank you, D.

It's literally how many streets are there, but it's like, I don't want to get gooned by the fact that, like, one block would count as different canal. It has one street. I'm sure they all have different names. So I'm guessing it's, like,

all the, different canals that are wide enough to fit one of those gondolas in. All right. I guess I got an answer. Do you have an answer? I'm going to say 10,000. Oh, boy. I was not going to go that high.

I was going to say 200. Incredible guests by Danny Kelly, 177. There we go. Just a tad of in there. Just a bit outside for Hyatt. God damn it. I've never been even close. I don't even get the order of magnitude, right?

It's not even close. Speaking of Venice, they need some sump pumps in that town, I'll tell you. There's a lot of flooding happening in that town a lot lately. Hopefully they're around. They need some sump pumps. Actually, when I was there one year, they have like these movable walkways that they put all around the city because it's like constantly flooded. Like even in like St. Mark Square, the most famous thing.

It's like elevated bridge walkways. Come on and stroll on through it. I love somebody could just, if somebody popped into this episode at the 13th, minute mark and Danny Kelly's just saying the city of Venice, Italy needs some sump pumps. That's a sentence that's probably never been said. Oh man.

They do these sunpull. You know, it's actually the cruise ships. What is? What's the cruise ships? So what they did was they built it on like trees. Like they took all these tree stumps and like that's like the core base under like Venice. And so the waves though created by the cruise ships is actually

one of the primary problems other than you know the whole climate change thing that doesn't help. But the waves from cruise ships are like accent or accentuating the problem and so exacerbating yes classic classic you know village green issue right there mm hmm okay so I won they don't have any green anyway no one gives a shit about any of this I get Marcus Johnson hell yeah congratulations I'll do something else I guess my 10,000 at Italian canals is not exactly accurate it wasn't 10,000 it's not that big I'll take Treyquan smith because it's like all these options are pretty meh and I'll just take the talented guy who didn't really play the first six or seven weeks

of the season and like maybe he just becomes the number one receiver for the saints if you're gonna stash a guy I really hope no one has to play a receiver off waivers this week on a week where like the you know you're the only guy's going that you're going to have to bench this week for buyer like Cooper Cup you know obviously the Robert Woods people are screwed but he's in the broncos Jerry Judy but like I hope no one has to really plug and play receiver so trache one Smith I think has the more like potential over the next month to grow into a roll, but overall, ugh. He seems to have some good chemistry

with Simeon. Can I throw out? I do, I kind of like Brian Edwards. He doesn't get a lot of targets, but he plays so many snaps, and I think he's good. Like, watching him, I do think he's good. He had a touchdown this week in 88 yards. I don't hate Brian Edwards as somebody just kind of hold on. I also want to check in on what you guys think of Elijah Moore,

because obviously he's been playing better of the last two weeks, but I also feel like once the touchdowns dry up, I still feel like there's not that much there, to be honest with you. Yeah, the problem is, I think with Elijah Moore, I'm trying to avoid... He doesn't play any snaps. The same trap I had with Rondale Moore,

which is they're not playing him enough. Like, he's really good. Every time he gets opportunities, he, like, turns it into positive yards. He's, like, a good playmaker. But they're, like, rotating six guys right now. Like, Keel and Cole is getting in there. Braxton Berrios is getting in there.

I can't even remember who else is they're thrown in there. James and Crowder is getting, like, the most snaps in this offense. Like, it just doesn't make any sense. Like, play you. your good player. Play your good young players. You're promising guys. I don't understand why they don't play him. But that's for another day. I think

right now you can still add him and stash him in case they do start playing him a lot like the majority of the routes, which could happen because he's been really impressive. But right now it's just tough to start him because he basically salvaged his day this last week with the touchdown in the fourth quarter

and Joe Flacco was finally looking for him. He basically didn't do jack shit until Joe Flacco came in. And so I don't know. It's a tough one. All right. Well, I heard Joe Flacco, so we're going to move on. Tight end. I think tight end is the opposite of receivers this week. Deep. It's pretty strong. Yeah. Tiki, who's your number one tight end for waivers this week? So I was looking at this week compared to last week. Dan Arnold actually went down in

roster ship, which makes absolutely zero fucking sense. He's my number one guy. He's basically the number one receiver on the Jags right now. Yes. And their five catches, 67 yards, plus a two-point conversion on Sunday. His targets in the last five games, seven, seven, ten, five, eight. Like, he's just one of Trevor Lawrence's, like, favorite targets in this game in this offense. He's the type of guy that can actually separate. Like, no one can separate on the Jaguars right now

because they're all either not very good or just too slow or whatever. And so he's the type of guy that I think has earned Lawrence's trust, and he's lining up against, when he gets coverage against linebackers, he just smokes them. So Dan Arnold, for me, is number one, like, by far. I completely agree.

He's the number one receiver in the Jags. You said it. Like, that's all you need to know. He's my number one. Craig, what about you? Yep, same. Yeah, it's, all right, wow. All right.

Little Dan Arnold's showdown. It's weird when it's the same guy every week, you know. He's, I feel like we've recommended him a few times. Three straight weeks. He's averaging eight targets of games since their by week. I mean, that's pretty elite territory. All right. It's time for another boring named Dan Arnold showdown time.

okay i i like this question this from joe joe how many capital letters look the same upside down as right side up there needs to be a limit on this like we need 10 there needs to be a time limit because we could think this out like we all right 15 seconds no less five seconds five four three two one four i'm going with eight seven oh it's definitely more there H. I-O-S-H-B-Z-Z. Wait, B doesn't look the same. It's backwards. Upside, no, upside down. Did you do it? No, it's upside down.

No, it's upside down. Well, yeah, but I'm saying when you flip it upside down, aren't the letter, aren't they pointing backwards? Not a B. Capital B. It's capital letters. Stay's pointing to the right. Oh, D-K is having a stroke. You guys are like flipping it. I'm like rotating it. Yeah, that's what upside down is.

I am having a stroke. You need to sump pump your brain. What time did you get up this morning? The capital B? Yeah. Like, if you flipped it up like this, boop, it's, the B is still pointing to the right. I want to look up the answer, but first, we can figure this out. It's B, C, D.

D.K., do you still not get what we're talking about? E. No, what I was doing was rotating. Oh my God, I said four. It's super wrong. Clockwise. You guys are like flipping it, like, yeah, that's what upside out is. But I'm not, I think I wasn't rotating it enough or something.

But even if you rotate it 180 degrees, it's still the same. That's a flip. No, that's what's confusing him. It's not a 180 degree rotation. Because if you do that with a B, then it would be pointing the other way. That's not what you're doing. You're taking the top and you're flipping it upside down like it was on like a little. Right.

No, I understand. You guys are correct if you're flipping it like the way that you're explaining. Oh, you thought we were flipping this way? Yes. That's actually an interesting question. Like when you say upside down, I don't think there's like a 180 rotation. That's a different thing. where my brain went.

Your brain has been some pumping for 12 hours now. I'm not going to make fun of you. But I think you're correct, though. Like, it's like if you flipped it like, right, upside down. I mean, right, right, right. When I think upside down, I do think a vertical flip, not a horizontal flip. And I think you were thinking horizontal flip. I just want to clarify that Craig said four letters in the first, and four, the first five in the alphabet work.

So BCDE. HIF, if you cannot call me out, you said 10,000 canals. I. Look, you know what? I was like, how much? I was just like, well, D.K. said it's like streets. I was like, I don't know, 100 canals by 100 canals.

Like, that's 10,000, isn't it? I think you gotta throw out. You know what, though? Here's what I'll say about the B. It depends on what letter you look at because some B's, the bottom circle is wider. It's elongated. So if you flipped it, it wouldn't work.

I, H. K's like that too. I guess it depends. You make your K. I think K counts. So it's kind of a subjective. It's a font-specific trivia question. All right.

Let me look at the number here. I think this is terrible. content. People are going to love this or hate it. I don't think anyone's going to be like, yeah, that was fine. How about we just give D.K. Dan Ardle, he deserves it. You know what, D.K., you're some pump draft. After all that, I'm sleep deprived, you guys.

You can have them. You can have them. You can go second. I guess, I'm seeing letters in three dimensions here, you guys. All right. Well, I'll take Tyler Conklin from the Vikings because he had a crazy day, but also just, it's like, he's not the number one receiver for the Vikings, like, you know, Dan Arles's the number receiver for the Jaguars. but Tyler Conklin has a solid chunk of this offense.

Like he's the number three receiver. It's like, yeah. He was my number two guys. There's Thielen and Tyler Conklin. And he obviously getting the end zone targets, you know, don't expect two touchdowns every week. But for a waiver wire guy, Tyler Conklin feels like the last guy

with a real role going forward. Mm-hmm. Even like the way Dalton Schultz was really great the last two months, I'm almost worried about him because like Michael Gallup came back and maybe possibly ate a little bit Dalton Schultz's lunch like we don't know

because the Cowboys Falcons game is so lopsided so quickly. But if Schultz kind of dries up and we don't know Dawson Knox, if he can stay healthy rest of the season, Dan Arnold, Tyler Conklin, and me feel like the last tight ends with like a real role left on waivers. Yeah. I would throw out Gerald Everett. I mean, I think his utilization hasn't been very strong previous to this,

but he did have eight targets and they were using him quite a bit in this last game to see Oxwere. So that could change going forward. I mean, and he's a guy. that we've talked about multiple times on this podcast is like every time he touches the ball, he looks awesome. Like, why don't they get him the ball more? Um, so this could be the beginning of a trend, but it's definitely a flyer type pick. And I wouldn't recommend probably starting him right away. It's just more like, see how this goes. If they start utilizing him more in this

offense, it's just tough to really buy into the CX offense right now. It just hasn't looked good. And they don't pass very much. They don't run in very many plays. Yeah. So it's tough. I went with, are you going to take Everett, Craig? No, I was going to just go with Evan Ingram coming off a buy against Tampa Bay. But I had Everett. But I had Everett. written down and Adam Troutman versus Philly is a guy who's kind of doing some stuff a little bit. But Evan Ingram's actually, he's average nine fantasy points a game over his last three weeks, not been terrible. Yeah, yeah.

But yeah, kind of deep. There's like five options at tight end. Evan Angram's the most frustrating giant. We'll see what happened. We'll see how many these guys are actually healthy coming back from the buy. I think I just, oh, I'm just frustrated. Also, just check if Logan Thomas is available in your league. A lot of leagues, he's not.

Oh, that's a good one. If you don't have an IRA spot, maybe got cut. He's probably going to come back soon. And Ricky Seals Jones got hurts. I think Logan Thomas will have a big role for. for Washington. We'll, you know, check if he's out there. All right.

Wow. I'm still, the letters conversation is still getting me. Okay. Quarterback streaming, kind of a good week for quarterback streamers. I want to start with just Justin Fields, who we were super high on in the preseason.

Obviously, he didn't start immediately and then sucked when he got to play, and that was really disappointing. He played poorly. The coaching was bad. The blocking's bad. But he's kind of primed for potentially big second half. I'm not saying it's going to happen.

I'm not saying, like, start him this week or whatever. But I think that if you are not satisfied with your quarterback play, or you have Kyler, or you have people that you're worried about their health for a playoff run, whatever it is,

and you have room for a second quarterback in your bench. Picking up fields this week, coming off a buy, when he hasn't, there's no hype. He had two top ten performances each the last two weeks.

I think he has 150 rushing yards the last two games, 140, like a lot. Like the whole problem with his fantasy value, the first, you know, two months of his career, that he wasn't running at all.

Now that he's running, and he was throwing better against the Steelers, I think Fields is, if he has another blowup week, you kind of want that happen on your bench instead of on waivers. Yeah. I was going to say to, like, for people that have Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hertz, a couple like high-end quarterbacks so far this year, those two guys, and I'm sure there are several others here that are coming up, have buy weeks coming up.

So Mahomes has a week 12 buy. Hertz says a week 14 by. obviously that's like in the meat of when you're trying to make the playoffs. If you have either of those two guys, it's probably a good chance that you're going to be a playoff team. So he's definitely a good guy to like kind of stash now. So you have them on your roster when you need to use a waiver claim or whatever to get a quarterback to replace for that week.

So that's another option for you. Just grab them now. See what happens over the next couple weeks here. But you have that backup plan if you need it. The other options, I would say streaming for this week, but honestly, like, I feel like not that many quarterbacks are hurt. It's really just Stafford that's out.

But anyway, Tua is playing the Jets, which is a good matchup, although I don't know if you really want to roll with him. Mack Jones playing the Falcons, Thursday night football, but realistically, like,

I don't, Thursday night's a weird one to plug in Mack Jones and like instead of just waiting to see if your quarterback's healthy. Daniel Jones is playing the bucks on Monday night football, which if you want to ride the roller coaster.

And then the last one I want to ask you is, but it's freaking Cam Newton's back. Yeah, yeah. Come about it. You heard him yell it. He's back. I'm curious what you guys. the first of all, the Panthers playing Washington this week,

which is coached by Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera was obviously Newton's coach in Carolina for a long time. Cam kind of implied there was bad communication with the coaching staff toward the end. I don't really know what happened there, but anyway, Cam playing Washington this week feels just spiritually like a lock that he'll get a rushing touchdown.

But I'm curious what you guys think about Cam for the rest of the season as a quarterback. I mean, yeah, I like it. Assuming he's healthy and assuming that he's going to be starting, which it sounds like he is starting him next week. He's always been a really solid fantasy option because of the rushing upside. We saw it. They already brought him in. He's been on the team

for like two games and they bring him in for all their red zone stuff. He scores two touchdowns. He rushes for one and he passes for one. So that is why, I mean, he's legitimately the greatest red zone player of all time. And I mean, in the way that he can like stress the defense in the red zone, like running. He's like one of the best power running quarterbacks of all time. He can also throw the ball. I buried the lead too. He's like going to start this week.

Like they're giving him the first team reps. He will all but certainly start. So he is like you could definitely still, I think there's still going to be question marks about his effectiveness as a passer. But he's a good fantasy quarterback still in my mind because of the rushing upside. He's going to score touchdowns in the red zone. And so I would definitely feel like this is exactly what I just said. And by the way, Kyler has a by week coming up. Get ahead of it.

Pick up a guy like Newton or Fields that you can start in week 12, week 13, week 14, week 14. when you need to. If you have that extra spot on your roster that you're not really using, I think that's a great way to do it. Newton's not a guy I feel good about in real football, but in fantasy. I mean, I'm looking at last year on the Pats

when he was not good. He had 12 rushing touchdowns. Am I reading that right? He ran for 12 rushing touchdowns last year. That's a lot in 15 games. So yeah, I mean, shit. Odds are he'll get one and, you know, not a bad stream.

Trey Lance, too, by the way. I know that we've sort of given up on on this year. But there's, I guess, whispers, more whispers coming out. Like, depending on how the 49ers do, like, if they start losing, if they lose, sorry, and we're recording this on Monday.

And so if they lose Monday night football, they're going to be in a situation where, like, their seasons more or less over. And so they're less reason to keep starting, Jimmy Garapola, I guess. And so maybe they go to Tray Lance. I know that Shanahan has said a few things where, like, we'll see where the season takes us

before Lance starts. obviously he's not starting yet but when when lance was in he was running a lot and so again the the aspect of like you can be a bad passer but still be a very good fantasy quarterback because you run is there with lance with fields with cam and so those are guys to stash now if you do need those replacements now to stretch i feel like i'd wait on him in a one quarterback league for a little bit right yeah i mean it just depends on how deep your league is most of the time he's still going to be out there all right defense is to stream for this week, I feel like it's been rough the last few weeks to find, but this week there's some options. Miami is playing the Jets, and obviously the Dolphins's defense was a lot better last week against the Ravens. Now they're playing the Jets, and the Jets are putrid. So whoever the Jets play quarterback, obviously Mike Wett had four picks last week and we're this week, whatever. And whoever plays, it's going to be good. The Chargers are playing the Steelers and Sunday night football. And Ben might not play. Yeah, if that's Mason-Rudolph playing the Chargers and Sunday

football, like, I'm down for that. And then also, So the 49ers are playing the Jaguars. The 40s D has not been good, but like the Jaguars... Jaguars' offense is terrible. Not great either. So like, I think there's a few... I don't know if there's any other ones that caught your eye, Craig, but I think there's a... Those are solid options for streaming.

Those are fairly widely available at defenses. Those were the three I had written down. Did you say Carolina versus Washington? I did not, but that's probably also a good one. I think that's a solid option. Green Bay's been playing really well, by the way. I don't know if you want to play them against Minnesota, but... they've definitely been playing really well.

So that's another option too. Yeah. Okay. So those, no, I think if we're going to pick one, it's the dolphins against the Jets though, right? Because ultimately you're looking for a big play.

Yeah. Dolphins' defense has actually been playing pretty well lately, too. I think it's the dolphin. Don't forget that they had dolphins had a crazy streak of games with a turnover under Brian Flores. And obviously they were off for the first two months of the season. But like, I think the dolphins are the one I would pick. Yeah.

The chargers and the Niners in that order. Okay. can I read one quick email before we get out of here? Sure. Please do. This is from Colby. Colby in Canada. Colby.

Colby. You just kind of said it. There was no like Colby. Colby. Colby. All right. You guys are always funny and entertaining. You've made some terrific calls,

including both Craig stumping for Mike Williams and High Fitzwarning against Mike Williams, which somehow both turned out to be correct. It's fair. We should remember that next year. But in fact, your best call of 2021 so far, has been DK's endorsement of the kid's show, Bluey. Ha ha! Hell yeah.

Amazing stuff. Not only can my son not stop watching Bluey, but I cannot stop watching it either. Hallelujah. He writes in all caps. Finally show I can leave on Loop that isn't to quote Alda Snow, the interminable dross of YouTube. Well done, much appreciated.

Good quote. I love quoting Alda Snow. Interminable Draws. What is Drew again for the parents out there? What is Bluey? Bluey. It's a show, it's made by Australia. It's an Australian show.

It's made by Australia. Made by Australia. Australia made it. It's about a blue healer family. The episodes are great. It's like seven minute long episodes or like 10 minutes or whatever. So they're very quick, like to the point. Good lessons.

Funny. I mean, honestly, for the parents out there, it's like so relatable because the dad and the mom, the dog parents always just like mess around with their kids and stuff. and so it's just very relatable from so many different levels. And it's funny, and it's not annoying.

Like, most kid shows are interminable draws, like just fucking terrible. And so I very much love the fact that my kid only wants to watch a blue, and that's fine with me because I'll put it on. Very catchy theme song. Calvin likes dancing to it. Yeah, there's just not a lot of holes to pick in it. we use sum pumping to blueie today

yeah do they have Australian accents? Yes Australian cattle dogs that's kind of really nice actually Australian cattle dogs maybe Calvin will kind of come away with a good Australian accent that is actually a thing that happens Craig I guess like Peppa the Pig or whatever

was giving American kids like I saw that weird English accents and stuff and the ways that they say certain words Yeah I mean it makes sense There's definitely like some funny expressions that Australians use that Americans don't use? Yeah, there's one word in particular I could think of.

What's that? I'm not going to say it. It's an inappropriate word that they say all the time. I'm trying to remember what you're talking about. Australians say see you next Tuesday a lot. See you next. Is that inappropriate? Oh.

You never heard that? See you next Tuesday? I actually had not, but I got you now. Pick it up where you're putting down. See you and. You can spell. Oh, D.K. actually didn't, okay, yeah. I thought that was the expression.

They don't say that on Bluey. No, I know. I'm saying, you're like, oh, Australians have a lot of fun phrases that we don't use. No, but I know what Craig's saying. Like, like, in the UK and in Australia, that that word just doesn't seem to have the same. No, it's ubiquitous. My favorite Australian slang on the show, Bluey, is they say sweet as. So it's like, it's, sweet as.

I don't know what? I don't know exactly, no. Oh, sweet as. I thought he said sweet ass. I was like, why would they say that? Oh, yeah. Like, I don't know the edomology. of like how this slang was created,

but I'm pretty sure it's like logical. Like it's sweet as something or other, but they just say sweet as. Well, that's nice. Oh, that's sweet as. Also, they say, gotta be done for some reason. Don't they say, how you going?

Isn't that how you going? Yeah, how are you going? How are you going, mate? I think we have a lot of Australian listeners who are probably mildly offended at a lot. Oh, yeah. Hey, if we have a listener from Australia, just bury us.

I'm happy. They also make fun of American.com email us weird phrases that we say email us whatever your complaints are.

Yeah, we say Sump Pump. Do we get this? All right. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to Sumpumpumpf. Is that the company

or is that the product? It's a thing. It's a product. It's like a shovel. Thank you Sump Pump. Can we be, I really want to be after we're done

with GNC as our presenting sponsor who we love, I'd love to be sponsored by Sump Pump. the official sum pump podcast. We'll work on that. By the way, the avalanches, which I plugged last yesterday,

are an Australian band. Oh, yeah. I'm trying to wreck my brain for other Australian bands, but go ahead and do your outro hyphids. Thank you, Lord! Lord! Oh, God. Your brain is just not working today.

Silver chair. Thank you, Silverchair. What is... Is silver chair? Is that it? I don't know. I can think of another Australian band, though. Well, hold on, because I know this is like definitely from my generation. Silverchair is an Australian rock band.

Yep. This is my generation only. They were like sort of a one hit wonder or like one album wonder when I was like, I think in high school, like the late 90s. Someone emailed us a theory that I think is true, which is that D.K. has excellent musical taste, but really just didn't want to hide it. Like he just hit it for a while and just did mainstream stuff. And then like actually just saying bands he listens to now and like they're like actually

really good. Yeah. Can I shout out one more Australian band with a. a really fun name. Yes. And their current. King Gizzard and the lizard wizard. Wow.

Check them out, D.K. That's actually our nicknames for this podcast. You can guess who's who. All right. Thank you, Mike Wargon, for producing this episode. Thank you for listening. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Email, showdown time.

Questions. Put the answers in white font. And is there anything else we got a plug? That's it. We already thank Lauren. And we named the band. We're good. We did everything.

Wow. Look at us. Sweet ass. Mike Davis. Don't you dare have a good Thursday in football. Goodbye, everyone.