The Ringer NFL Show - Must-Add Players for Week 12

Episode Date: November 22, 2021

We run through the injuries from Week 11 and offer up our must-add players for Week 12 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. Must-Adds RBs (02:00) WRs (16:00) TEs (27:00) QB Streamers (33:00) DEF Streamers (35:00) Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. Week 11 is gone. Not really. It's Monday night football. I always get chipped up there. We're recording this on Monday afternoon.

You're probably hearing this Monday night or Tuesday. We're coming to you for all the waivers going into week 12. A little leaf blowery where I'm at. I'm in my Thanksgiving location. Little leaf blurry. I apologize for that in advance for that. Yeah. With that said, Chiefs and Cardinals are on by this week.

So if you have Patrick Mahomes or Kyler or Clyde Edwards or James Connor, Tyre Kale, Travis Kelsey, DeAndre Hopkins, Christian Kirk, Zach Kurtz, all those dudes, you'll probably need to replace them, not to mention all the injuries. Shall we just dive in? Should we just do it? Showdown time? Just get going with it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Hello, everyone. Hello. So if you don't know, you probably know. But if you don't know, we're going through position by position. We're giving our top pick for waivers each week, roughly 40-ish percent available. give or take. And we can't pick the same guy. We'll fight over them for trivia. You'll get it. It's not particularly difficult.

With all that said, D.K., we're starting at running back. Who is your number one pick off of waivers at running back this week? I'm very curious to see what you guys think of all these picks. But- Wait, quick caveat. Devante Freeman has a huge ownership disparity. He's like 30% on ESPN, like 70 almost on Yahoo. For this purpose, he's not on this list.

But if he's available, you should probably get Devante Freeman above all. these guys. Right, right. Generally speaking, we don't discuss these guys before the show, but we did say, you know, we're going to give it, give the shout out to Freeman if he's out there, go get him. But for the purposes of this game, I'm going with Ty Johnson for the Jets this week. And the main reason is Michael Carter, the Jets nominative starter, went down with a injury in the game, did not return. There's some fear I saw on Twitter. People were talking about there's a chance of maybe a high ankle spring. We haven't really heard. It's Monday afternoon. We have. haven't heard yet exactly what the extent of his injury is.

But right now, I mean, if we're under the assumption, I think we can probably safely assume that he'll miss at least one game. I'm going with Ty Johnson just because he's already been a big part of their passing game. He's shown that ability to catch passes. He does have, you know, good burst and speed as a runner. And I just prefer him slightly over to having Coleman going forward just because the Jets are most likely to be a trailing scripts for the rest of the year. Maybe not this week.

I think they're playing the Texans. Yes, this is funny. But going forward, generally, they're probably going to be playing from behind a lot. It'll be a good pass script type offense. And so going with Ty Johnson. It's a weak field, I would say, at the running back spot this week. It's like, it's desperate out there. This is a really desperate week.

The whole week, there's just not a lot of great options out there. I went with Ty Johnson as well, D.K. I also did Ty Johnson for everything you said. It's a little skeeved out that, like, Joe Flacker didn't really throw to him. But also, I don't know how much longer Joe Flacker's going to be there. Zach Wilson's going to come back soon. I think Ty Johnson's like PPR mostly for what Dika said he's just the past catcher he had double digits

like four weeks in a row all right so it's Thai Johnson and it's really a sad week but I will say Ty Johnson I think looks good I can actually watch him he passes the eye test he does okay so little little Ty Johnson showdown time Craig I agree Craig yeah this is the first showdown time for Ty Johnson in the history of the world I would say that is true probably this is a big moment I hope Ty's listening was he recruited

was there like a real recruiting showdown for Ty Johnson We're going to go to school at DK. That's a good question. What's your guest? You have to get to Maryland. He went to. Maryland. Yes.

Wow. Yes. Yes. That was really impressive. Nailed it. Wouldn't have ever gotten that. Well, maybe Maryland had a recruiting battle for him. But now we're going to have a battle for him.

Okay. It's time for the Ty Johnson. Showdown time. I'm in a hotel. Sorry, everybody. Can you like yell in the hotel or no? I haven't seen any signs saying I can't. Okay.

All right, we got... In America. I yell wherever I want. Email ringer fantasy football at gmail.com if you have a shutdown time. Put the answers in white font so I can't see them. Thank you to everyone emailed in. But there's only one direction to go today. All for the week of Australian slang.

We got an email from JP who just quickly threw out a couple more Australian slang ones. JP. JP. JP. But he said, if you drop your guys, that's like ripping a fart. There's dead horse, which means a tomato sauce. I don't know why. And then there's Sango, which means sandwich.

So he wanted to throw those out there. Senga? Like a Sanga, like a sanghi saying? Why is pasta sauce a dead horse? I don't want to know, honestly. It's like you're squishing tomatoes? I really don't want to know the answer, but that's what you said. I actually really want to know the answer.

So I'm going to look that up. You have to Google that. This is PJ's trivia question. for us. After World War I, the great Australian emu war was one of Australia's greatest military losses with only 50 to 200 emu casualties being amassed over the six-day conflict. This is actually a real thing. Like the Australian government basically was like there's way too many emos. Like you guys got to kill the emos. And they didn't really do a good job. So PJ says approximately how many machine gun rounds were fired to kill.

kill between 50 and 200 emos in the Great Eboo Wars in Australia. So they killed 50 to 200? Yeah. How many bullets were fired? I got an immediate thought in my head. I have no idea if I'm fired. You immediately thought of how many bullets were fired? How many bullets do you think it takes to kill one? You said it was post-World War I?

Yes. If you hit them in the right spot, one bullet, I think will do it. Yeah, but I'm guessing post-World War I, they weren't exactly sharpshooters with machine guns. True. They also didn't have wait, this is after World War I? Yeah. Did they have machine guns then?

Yeah. Yeah, if you're watched Peaky Blinders. Oh yeah, I guess you're right. That's right around then though. Pecky Blinders is set. Yeah. This is like the early 30s, I think. I'm going with 50,000.

Wow. That's a lot. I was just thinking 10 bullets at email. Just think about like, you know, 21 year old dudes, you know, driving around, whatever, shooting machine guns. Like, they're not worried about. But they have to carry it.

They're not worried. worried about the Australian government's like bullet budget. They're just going for it. I'm just going to go with 10 bullets in a mu. So 2000? Yeah. How many was it 200?

It was 50 to 200. Yeah, so I'm going to go a little higher than that. I'm going to go like 5,000. All right, let's see here. Why would he bring this? This is the part where you have to like deduce why he would ask us this question. It's got to be an absurd number, right?

He says it's 2,500 rounds. Oh. in the great emu wars. Okay. That's still a lot. That's a lot of bullets. 2,500 bullets to kill like maybe 100 emus. I'm on Wikipedia right now, obviously 100% correct source.

The emu war, also known as the Great Eam War, was a nuisance wildlife management. Depends on where you grew up. It says nuisance wildlife management military operation undertaken in Australia over the later part of 1932 to address public concern over the number of emus said to be running amok in Western Australia. Running amok.

Anyway, that's a lot of emus. Okay. So, High Fitz wins. I win, obviously. I get second. I get Ty Johnson. So there was only, there's like one other guy I'm semi interested in

and then the third guy's not really that close. I think I'm going to go with Boston Scott. Yeah. That's playing the Giants next week. Yeah, Jordan Howard left the game with a knee injury. Boston Scott was actually not getting a ton of work until Jordan Howard left.

But Kenneth Gainwell was, was a healthy scratch. And the Eagles kind of have not given up their running game plans. Like we kind of thought that was just, might be a brief stint based on the defenses they were playing, but they went in and faced New Orleans, the number one run defense in the NFL last week, and they ran for 240 yards against them.

Doesn't seem like this is going away. They're playing the Giants next week. And if it's just Miles Sanders, Boston Scott and hurts, I think Scott's in line for like double-digit carry, so I'm going with Scott. Yeah, definitely worth monitoring. We don't know the status of Jordan Howard's knee. If he's out,

I think this is a good ad. If Jordan Howard is healthy, though, in plays, I don't think Boston Scott's worth even rostering, to be honest. Yeah, you're probably right. Right. Well, that's, yeah, and I think that's the assumption that you have to make here. Obviously, it's Monday.

So keep an eye on the injury report for what we hear about Jordan Howard. But again, I think he went out and he didn't return. So that's never a good sign, I would say, with a knee injury. And so I would just probably treat this with the assumption he's not going to come back for this next week. He had been running pretty well for him.

So that's kind of a bummer for the Eagles. but they got Sanders back, now they can go back to Scott. I did like this one. This was my second ranked one. So, Craig, I'm going to have to come up with a third here. I feel like there's just a flat plateau

of the other guys in this equation right now. Let's just stick with Michael, like Michael Carter's injury, Ty Johnson. Is there any interest in Tevin Coleman for the Jets? Yeah, I think Tevin Coleman is worth, at the very least,

I guess, like a speculative ad, just kind of like see how it all shakes out. I really don't trust Coleman at this point. Like he's on the old. end. I don't think the Jets offense is particularly good, especially now that Flacco has that quarterback, he's not checking down to running backs quite as much. It seems like Tevin Coleman is the main ball carrier and Ty Johnson's the past catching guy.

But yeah, I would say I lean, I still lean Johnson. That's why I kind of went that way. But I think, yeah, Tevin Coleman, he's probably going to get some run, you know, if, if Carter misses multiple games here. The other guy I was going to say, like Latavius Murray came back for the Ravens. He did get 10 carries in this game. He was not very effective with them. but in this offense, when they get their starter back, when they get Lamar Jackson back, I think you have to think the run game will improve a little bit. Devante Freeman is still the lead guy there,

but 10 carries is nothing to kind of scoff at. Hyphids, you're going to love this one. Quadre Allison for the Falcons came back. Mike Davis in a game where Cordero Patterson was out. Mike Davis is dead. Mike Davis is officially gone. In a game where Cordero Patterson was out, with an injury,

Quadrae Allison was actually like their most effective runner. Now that's not saying a lot because they couldn't really run the ball on the Patriots,

but Patriots have a good defense. And if the Falcons come out and decide, you know, this is assuming Patterson's out for a few more weeks, it sounded like it was a mild high ankle sprain,

which is never good. Just an eye test, like Alison actually looked better than the other runners in this game. And that's not saying a lot again. But if they decided to go with him going forward,

he could be worth a speculative ad. This is really, you know, diving in crates. But I don't know. Like there's a couple other to mention, Rex Burkhead did get 18 carries. I don't think the Texans are going to have a ton of leading game scripts

where they're going to run the ball a lot. However, it could happen this week against the Jets. Well, I actually think Rex Burkhead is the dumpster dive. If you need someone for this week, if you're desperate for this week, I think it's Rex Burkhead, which is crazy because the Texans just had like 40-something. Texans just got like one and a half yards of carry this week, basically. But they're playing the Jets with the worst running in football.

And Philip Lindsay's like out of the rotation. Rex Burkett's playing. Like Rex Burkhead will get the most touches of everyone, anyone on waivers this week probably. Yeah, you could also toss in David Johnson, who's like got 13 carries and is the past catching guy as well and they're playing the Jets. So I mean, it's pretty deserted out here.

It's kind of a wasteland for running back. But they're there. Also, I could just throw out Sony and Michelle still. And even though he's just like a straight up backup, like he could still maybe have a better game than all these other guys were recommending. There's, so the guys for, this week are really desperate, like an awful. And I think it's Ty Johnson. I guess if you want to say

Tevin Coleman, if the Jets take a lead on the Texans. And I guess you could say Rex Burkett, if you think the Texans play against the Jets and play well. Those are the guys for this week. But there's one guy actually, I think is better. Like, if you don't need a running back now, but you just want to stash for the rest of the season, I think DJ Dallas, the running back for the Seahawks could just win that backfield. Because, so Chris Carson is on injured reserve and is out for the year. Honestly, I'm I just hope he plays football again. Like, we'll see about Chris Carson ever playing again. Yeah.

But Rashad Penny was, this was like his audition. Craig doesn't end well. Craig's pumping his fist. I got bad news, Craig. I know. He had like an 18-yard run just starting the game and then hurt his handstring. Like Pete Carroll said entering the game, this was like a huge time in Rashad Penny's career.

And literally one carry got hurt. I just don't think they're going to be able to rely on him to play at all. Really good yards for carry. They said it's going to be huge time. Alex Collins got most of the work but like I think him in DJ Dallas ended up playing similar similar snaps basically

DJ Dallas got a touchdown but I feel like they're going to give the work to DJ Dallas as the season goes on and see how good he is he might just be the Searox lead ball carrier by the time we get to December and the fantasy playoffs what do you think DK

yeah this is tough I think on one hand I think it's The most obvious conclusion would be that it's still going to be Collins. Like Collins is going to be the guy. It's going to be a crappy run game.

They're going to have not very much volume. Like if you've seen the Seahawks ability to run on third down this year, it's like bottom three in the NFL. Like in terms of, sorry, in terms of converting third down. So that means they can't convert. They can't keep drives alive. They can't like run more plays. I saw Mike Clay said they're running on average like 18 fewer plays than their opponent this year. That's incredible.

which is just incredible. Like, that's by far the worst in the NFL. And it's because largely they can't convert on third down. And Russell Wilson's really struggled in that area. So I think it's like the most obvious thing and like the most like likely, I think, is that it's going to be Collins. However, I do like this. I do like this. I do like this.

Correct. But I do kind of like this because I like DJ Dallas. Like the way he runs, this style of running is actually very different than Dallas. And maybe this is something that Pete Carroll will. start to see is like Dallas is like a hammer looking for a nail like he's running into people he's he's barreling through guys he's more Chris Carson on like the in terms of like the running back style spectrum he's more like Chris Carson where he's like looking to you know bang into guys and run physically Alex Collins is like dance around trying to catch an extra yard or two and then

dive forward for first down like he like stylistically Collins to me doesn't feel like a Seahawks running back um which is why I've just been kind of low on him generally speaking. However, I don't know. I guess this one is a good, it's a good flyer. I'll put it that way. It's a total flyer. Overall, though, this is a terrible week for running backs. I think Ty Johnson is a really solid pickup. And then, man, it gets really really real, really fast. And if you're really desperate, go Rex Burkette, in my opinion, but this is just awful. Receiver time? Receivers. All right. So I have a feeling. I know what you're going to say. But D.K., who's your number one receiver pickup for this week? Interesting. I'm going with Cedric Wilson.

for the Cowboys. He's rostered in only 2% of leagues. This is a huge week for injuries for the Cowboys. Amari Cooper is out. He is on the COVID list. He cannot come back as far as I understand before this Thursday night game for the Thanksgiving game. So he is out for Thursday.

CD Lam suffered a concussion in this game. It's looking likely he is out also. He's not going to play. It has been, I believe, plural years since a player who had a concussion on Sunday was cleared for Thursday. Okay. So it's like, it's, practically possible, but it's not going to happen.

So I think we can safely assume Amari and CD are out for the Cowboys that leaves Gallup as their number one. And I believe Cedric Wilson slots into the number two role in this offense. And again, this is a good offense. They're going to score a lot of points. Like, I know that they struggled this last week, but I still believe very strongly in DAC. I still believe in this offense. I still believe in Kellynne Moore.

I think they'll figure it out. Cedric Wilson had seven targets on Sunday. And he's number one. Like he doesn't he wear number one? We've talked about this. He does wear number one, which I made a lot of. of fun for him. I made a lot of fun. You know, horrible drop on Sunday as well. So way to go, number one.

But I think he's going to have an opportunity to get the volume. He's like a flexible player this week and this week only. But if you are looking for that replacement for this week, I think he could be the guy. I also have Cedric Wilson there for that for the same reason. Yeah. If you have a Cooper or a CD and you also maybe have like Omar Cooper, CD and Tyree Kale and you have no receivers this week. Cedric Wilson is flexible for Thanksgiving. I barely had Cedric as my number two guy. I don't know why I was like, there's still, there's Dalton Schultz, maybe they'll run a bunch with Pollard and Zieg and Gallup.

I was like, eh, Cedric Wilson, even when these guys have missed time, he hasn't really done that much. So I just, I don't know why, but this might be recent he biased. I put MVS as my number one. Okay. I like him in these big games. Like, they're playing the Rams this week. And I always think that the games where the Packers need to really show up offensively and

like put up 30 points. MVS is always there with like a 70-year touchdown in those games. And he had 10 targets last week. He's only played six games this year. And when you look at the games he's played, he actually has put up decent target totals in most of them. And this last week was kind of the first week that was kind of the MBS that we were sold in the off season. Right.

This is what we thought. Yes. Right. It was like when Lazzard was out. Yeah. I don't think he's going to play next week. I mean, he didn't practice all week with a shoulder injury. I don't think he's going to be back this week.

But yeah, we were sold that MVS is matured now. He's a veteran. He's going to take a leap. in fantasy and in real life football. And then he kind of got hurt immediately. But he had eight targets in week one. And we were like, all right,

it's starting. So I'm going to stick with MVS as my guy. I like this one, Craig. He had 10 targets last week. Yeah, I had MVS is 1B and Cedric Wilson's 1A. So I mean, I think it totally makes sense.

So High Fitz and I are going to do Cedric Wilson. Craig is going to take MVS. And then we can talk, we'll do the showdown and we can talk about the other guys that are out there. Yeah, the loser can pick the third person. All right. So we are going to enter the Cedric Wilson

Showdown time. God, what is the person in the hotel room next to me thinking right now? I'm loving this. You're thinking about Cedric Wilson, I don't know. Okay. What is the showdown? Who is Cedric Wilson? What is this?

You imagine Cedric Wilson was at your hotel and heard that? That would be shocking if he was here, but perhaps. Okay. All right, folks, this question comes from Mark. Mark. Mark. Real simple. how many jeans do you have not pants jeans in your body oh i think even jeans like that i own like pairs

i'm like is that that that was good how would dk know that jeans in my body that's right i was like i could i could probably guess how many jeans i have can i get can i like get a clarifying answer what's up is like genes like in a cell times your cells or like how many genes does like one cell have how many genes in your entire body? You can't guess. This is part of the process, Heifitz. You can't give you the answer on that. What? So I'll give you a hint here.

There is not because everybody's different. It doesn't seem that it is an exact answer. It is a range. So whoever is closest to the range will win this. Oh, my God. Trivia question. Oh, my God. High Fitz, you have to go first.

Fuck that. You go first. No, no, no. He threw me out of the bus. We're going to do the exact same time. We're going to do the exact same time. Just because he wanted me to go first. Oh, God.

High fits, I feel like we're both struggling with the same thing. Is this like the, is this like the closer to the number of like cells that you have like where it's like in the trillions? We're allowed to know that answer. I think it's just for like one, your genome that is repeated. Like what is your gene? I don't think it's like gene times all the cells that have genes. That would be ridiculous. I'm going to, I'm going to probably make myself look really stupid here.

but I'm going to say 218. I feel like you're, you started thinking of chromosomes. Yeah. I, I, I,

I, I, I, fully acknowledge that I'm like, going on the extreme low end here. I don't know. Yeah. There are,

I believe, 23 pairs, 46 total chromosomes. So I'm going to say you have 300 genes, knowing I'm going to win. Yeah, I don't know if it's out of thousands of millions, but I'm going to win. If it's constantly cheats on the whole,

think of an. answer and then say it. How is that cheating? Because your price is writing me. Your price is writing him. I try to get you guys to stay at the exact same time. Should I punt this? Should we do a new one?

No, no, I'm not going to do that. I would wouldn't do it. We should punt this? But I want to note the answer too. I'm trying to figure if it's like 50,000 or like $10 million. Yeah. I'm going to make an executive decision. We're going to do a different question because this is a range anyway and this is all

screwed up. I'll give you the answer. The range is 20,000 to 25,000 genes. Okay, okay. I was thinking of the chromosomes thing and I was way off. Okay. one's a lot more fun. This is from Jared. Jared. Jared or Jerry? See, this is what happens when I don't pick the question.

You made this list. I just read one of them from the list. Okay. The next question is, how many words does Arnold Schwarzenegger say in Terminator 1? Oh my God. Wait, how many words? Do repeat words count? I don't know. I bet. No, we're going spoken words. It's not that many, right? Have you guys seen Termin? terminator one? I think it's like, I think it's like 80 total. No, that can't be right. I'm going to say 150. I'm going to say like 15. Danny Kelly wins. It's 58. Fuck! Why did I say 80? Why did I stick with 80? God damn it. Does it say which words he says? Obviously, um...

Fuck. Oh, man, I'm trying to remember. I'm actually trying to remember some of his lines in the movie. Oh, Arna, Arna, I'll be. back? I mean, that's the big one. Right. I know, but like, does he say other stuff? Your clothes, give them to me now. That's at the beginning. In the bar. He takes the guy's sunglasses, you know? Yeah.

Stuff like that. But yeah, there you go. Do the ones where he like impersonates the woman's voice on the phone? Is that an Terminator 2? Now I'm like maybe... It's Terminator 2. And the first one, though, he calls and goes, I'm a friend of Sarah Kana. Yes. He has to have the record for most

money earned per word said in a film has to be. Guarantee. Maybe Tom Hardy, no Tom Hardy and Mad Max Fury Road. He might have it actually. Wasn't the script for that movie just a storyboard? I don't think... I don't think... I don't think...

Does he say any words in that movie? And Thunder Road? Fury Road. Fury Road. Thunder Road. Sorry, sorry. I don't know if he says a single word. I think he like grunts.

Don't think Matt... Doesn't he say that's bait? That's the meme. Oh yeah, that's bait. Yeah. Uh-uh. That's bait. You're right.

He speaks. He gets the thing off. Yeah. He speaks. He speaks. Anyway, D.K. gets Cedrick Wilson. I'm getting Valdez-Scaneling.

So hyphids, who do you want here at third? Those are the right two picks. I almost think MVS might be better pictures because he has more value. I'm just worried about getting whack-a-mold with MvS. You pick them up, you put lamb, and then he just whack-a-mills you for two points. I feel like Cedricin-Wilson. I feel like Ced-Wilson. Yeah, this is a classic recency bias for Valde-scanling.

That's the thing. I'm going to go with the Titans, man. I got to figure out how to pronounce this properly. But Westbrook Akeen, Akin, I apologize. I thought it was Akeene, but I could be wrong. Westbrook Akeene for the Titans, man. Like, he had 100 plus yards. And, dude, the Titans are, it's ridiculous.

We don't know right now with the deals with A.J. Brown. So he might be all right. He had a hand injury. Came back, left, got a chest injury. The chest injury is worse. It's not like a collarbone thing. I read that it could be a, I'm not even going to read what it could be.

it'll probably come up by the time the pods here. Even if AJ Brown's okay, it's like clear that he's, it's really just been frustrating for the Titans this season. You got Marcus Johnson, who we said to pick up last week. He had a hamstring injury this game too. So now AJ Brown's banked out, Marcus Johnson hamstring. Julio Jones is on IR. I think Westbrookine is like going to be the most reliable pass catch

on this team after AJ Brown. Even against New England, you don't care? I mean, it sucks, but like I certainly think that if AJ Brown plays, it'll be in the Belichick playbook to be like, yeah, like, you know what? you're not going to run, which you want to do, and you're not going to do A.J. Brown, and, like, West Berk Aquina is going to beat us. The only other guy I think I would throw out, who I had third, was Leviska-Chanal,

is 39% rostered in Yahoo, and they're playing Atlanta, and Jamal Agnew's out for the season now. And, uh, that's just not a lot. The other one that I actually think could have the most season-long value is Trequan-Smith for the Saints. The Saints quietly have one of the worst receiving course in all of football. But Trequan Smith kind of missed the first almost two months of the season, and like, it's just the number one guy quietly. Yeah. But, like, I feel like he's going to ramp up his.

the season gets going. And of all the guys left, I think that three weeks from now, if we're like, oh, yeah, Trey Kwan Smith, number one receiver, like for his team, not necessarily for your fantasy team, but that to me is the guy with the most upside left on the board. I had, I had Trey Kwan Smith second. I had Westbrookickeen, a third. And then we didn't mention James and Crowder, who just continually, perpetually getting targets. He had another seven targets.

He's averaging seven targets a game. last seven games. If you're playing in a PPR league, you could do worse than James and Crowder. I do like the mouth. I like the Velas Gantling call though. This is not a recommendation, but I just want to throw out that Josh Reynolds like left the Titans and is quietly just like the number one receiver for the lines now, which I don't think that was exactly well publicized, but eventually. Did he do anything? Don't pick up. No, he didn't, but don't be played every snap, which is crazy because he just got there. Don't pick Josh Reynolds up, but like, I'd be intrigued. All right. Again, it's just awful out there this week.

Hey, quick note, after we finished this episode, Adam Schaefter reporter that Adam Troutman actually suffered a sprained MCL this week against the Eagles. So he's expected to be out four to six weeks. So that whole part where we said Adam Troutman would be really good pickup. Just ignore that. It's like we didn't even talk about it, really. Back to the show. All right. Tight end.

Yes. Okay. I'm going to start this one off with Adam Troutman for the Saints rostered in 7% of leagues. This week, he had eight. targets, five catches, 58 yards, and a touchdown. His targets in the last five games, eight, six, seven, six, and three, he's been pretty inconsistent as basically the entire Saints'

offense has been. But it seems like he has pretty good rapport with Simeon, and he's getting good amount of targets. He's, uh, in terms of just like the very thin, tight end group that we have here on the waivers right now, I'd say he's probably my favorite option, but there's not very many good options this week.

What do you think? What about you, Craig? In terms of next week, I actually think I think I say this guy's name every week but for some reason it always seems like the Giants planned Monday night so we never know how he did I like Evan Ingram again

they're playing Philly so I might like Adam Troutman season long but if you want if you have somebody if you have Travis Kelsey right on bye next week I think the Chiefs are off and you want somebody for one week Evan Ingram against Philly's not bad Philly's really bad against tight ends and I don't know if you guys remember that week

when the Chargers remember they had three tight ends in the top eight and scoring in that one like that was against Philly So I think I like Evan Ingram Against Philly More than I like Troutman against Buffalo But long term I would think I would take Troutman I think that's a really good call

Especially again Maybe Angerum had a great night And this sounds dumb Maybe he's hurt and this sounds You know stupid But I actually agree that Angram against the Eagles Is probably the best Angram will be all year I mean Egrem should have won them

A game against the Eagles Last one Thursday of football Which we didn't have to go into It's a lot of leafblowers going on around me Anyway Like multiple It's really tough now that like the Tyler Conklin group has kind of graduated from this process for us.

Like if Tyler Conklin or those guys are still out there, go for them. Realistically, though, it's probably really barren if you need a tight end. So I think Edgroom is a good one for this week. I think Troutman makes sense. My concern with Troutman, D.K., is that he played well this week, but Nick Vinette returned. And so Troutman snaps went down, even though I think Troutman is good report, Trevor Simeon. Nick Vinette, I think taking snaps from Troutman's a little concern, and I love Troutman. The other one I want to throw out is Cole Kmet for the Bears, who was playing a lot better.

we don't know how it's going to work with like I think Andy Dalton's definitely going to play this week for the Bears on Thursday but we don't know how that's going to work but Colcomette was playing a lot better for Chicago so keep him in mind and also Cleveland Jarvis Landry has an knee injury he's going to play through it but regardless like

the replacement for the Browns tight end roulette in Cleveland is just yeah if you want to just play the Thailand roulette that to me is like the stopgap beyond that you're you're like through the void you're in the forbidden forest beyond the Browns but like the Injoku Austin Hooper Roulette for me is like the the last stopgack break glass in case of emergency.

Wait, hyphids, who did you? Who is your number one? I think for next week, Evan Enger was a really good call. I think that's, I would do that number one. Okay, so you guys are showdowning then. Is that how you say the, is that a verb? Showdowning? Showing down?

Showing down? No, it's showdowning. Hold on. Okay. I've never, I haven't done this. I haven't done the question for a little while. Where do I'll just do it. I'll just do it.

No, just go to the bottom of the dock and click. I see trivia questions. No, there's one I'm highlighting right here, DK, I want you to do. Oh, great. Hyvitz has been thinking about the answer for this for two days. No, Craig, honestly, you actually should win this. Okay, here we go. Hi Fitz, here's the one you...

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell is going on? It's time for the Evan Ingram showdown time. Duh, dun, da, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Can we get that cleared? Spotify legal? Yeah. No?

All right. Speaking of Spotify legal from Christian in seconds, how long is Tom Tom Club's genius of love? Source.

Source, Spotify. In seconds? Christ. I imagine, yes. Craig's like, I have to add 60. I got to do 60 times, whatever.

Between two and five times. I have a number in my head. I do two. I do it on the count of three. Sure. there's a orchestra of leaf blowers that's going to really like keep great for this all right Craig three two one five hundred and twenty three seconds

I said five twenty I think the song's like eight minutes long it could be wrong okay I said 320 I think in like five minutes I did my math right why did I think the song was like seven or eight minutes long ooh uh okay so it is five minutes and 34 seconds long oh shit if you want to do the math on that it's gonna be a little closer honestly I'll make my answer 8,000

can have Evan Ingram. I don't fucking want me. I'm so tired of rooting for Evan Ingram. You just take him. Okay, so that's 334 seconds. 334? Yeah, I said way longer. I said it was like 500. You take Evan Ingram. I don't even want him. No, I lost.

I lost. You have to get him. Congratulations. God damn. I even want Evan Ingram. And just like you don't want Evan Ingram, I don't want Austin Hooper. I'm going to take Colcomit. Middle school bully, Austin Hooper. But he was not a bully. He was not a bully to me. He dumped on you. No, we played.

In front of the whole auditorium? And then I didn't get to go to the dance with the girl I wanted to go with. No. But you won the pickup truck. We played like Little League baseball against one another. And I was better than him. Who bowled over? So his dad was the coach and he just wouldn't play me.

Yeah. I was a really good pitcher and I was a better pitcher than him. Do you think he'd be a pro athlete if he had played you instead of his son? Listen, if I grew earlier, I'd be in the MLB right now. right Craig means that I do mean that I love when your brother came on

he was like yeah Craig was small like real small I was there I was like alarmingly small alarmingly small all right well that's also the amount of waivers available this week although other streamers for quarterbacking defense

there's actually options quarterback dude Tyrod Taylor against the jets is like perfectly fine as the streamer Tyra's good he only you know If you have Mahomes on buy, he only doubled up Mahomes this week, so it's fine.

Jesus. Tyrod's only played four games this year, but in three of them, he said 16 points or more. That is very streamable numbers. He's perfectly fine, and he doesn't turn the ball over, knock on wood. Also, maybe this is going out more risky, but like, I don't know. I mean, kind of don't mind Trevor Lawrence this week. Is that crazy? I mean, he's not been playing that well.

Well, I should say that their offense has been terrible. but I don't hate it. What about Cam Newton against Miami? Does Cam count as a streamer? He's 50% rostered. If Cam's available, then yes, Cam. I thought Cam was kind of graduated. I had Ty God first.

I would put Cam above Tyrod. I just kind of thought Cam's been taken in a lot of leagues. I agree. I agree. And then I had Jimmy Garoppolo versus the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Jimmy G should be up there. And then Trevor Lawrence. Even though he sucks.

I love hyphins last night on Sunday being like, Jimmy G sucks. He does, man. it's like you look at his stat lines you're like wow he's playing really well and you watch the games you're like oh my god what is going on with this guy okay i like that order so it's cam do we have jimmy or then tyrod then jimmy i went tyrod over jimmy i have tyrod first i almost think it's jimmy then tyrod but that's commandment number one don't trust shanahan but now i i think it's jimmy then tyrod okay regardless this quarterback streamers also defenses do you're some good defense options

this week. I mean, first of all, the Eagles have double digits, I think, three of their last four weeks. They're playing the Giants. And then you can hold on to them. They play the Giants. Then the Jets. Zach Wilson will probably be playing by then. Washington, Giants, Washington. I mean, so two games left against the Giants, two games against Washington, and then the Jets. Like, that's like a good one for this week and you can hold it

to get you to the playoffs for fantasy. And then also, the other one of just for this week, dude, the Bears playing the Lions and two Boils going to play for Detroit. Is that right? I thought it was Goff. Isn't Goff back or no? I don't think he might not be.

Yeah. God. I honestly, I think I'd rather want golf back. Yeah. Goff with an oblique injury that made him not able to play three days ago or Tim Boyle, I think on Thanksgiving Day and you can like watch the Bears defense, like eat them alive is probably pretty good for fantasy. No shade of Tim Boyle, but that's the worst quarterback name in the league right now, right?

Yeah. So you have to drop the Bears because after that they play the Cardinals and the Packers. So the Bears is very much a short-term option But either way, I think Eagles and Bears And then also if those are not available, you know, the Texans D against the Jets And the Jets D against the Texans If you're really desperate, like, you could do worse.

Yeah. It's like the worst defenses against the worst offenses. Like, you could do worse. I can't believe I just recommended the Jets defense. I guess really the Texans defense is the right. I would do Texans over, yeah. The Texans defense if it's out there, if you're ever going to do it.

Obviously, the Texans might not be. Here's your chance. Yeah. Yeah. For all the people have been dying to do it. Okay.

I think that's all we got, but we want to do some quick spleen talk. For the people listening yesterday's episode, you know that we were very confused about Justin Fields-Pockeme of a spleen, which led to us

being like, what is a spleen? Where is the spleen? I asked doctors to emails. I just want to shout out Austin in Atlanta who said, Thanks, Doc. He said, Craig's supposition that the spleen is a trash can

of the body is not far off. Hell yeah. The liver also serves as a bit of a body trash can, but the spleen is like a different trash can. maybe like recycling and regular trash. And there's actually a third vessel system

that runs throughout the body. People know arteries and veins. There's also lymphatic vessels. These vessels transport fluid and infectious material all throughout the body to lymph nodes, which filter and process the material. The spleen is essentially a gigantic lymph node and immune system hub,

which brings me to my question for you guys, which NFL player is most like a spleen? Which guy's sifting through the trash the most? Yeah. Just collecting all your trash that you don't really want to like. Well, is that... Is that a garbage time player or no? is that it goes

Oh, that's good Yeah I was thinking it was until this year it was Alan Robinson because he's just catching all the shit Oh, that's a good

That's filtering it out But yeah like so maybe like Blake the spleen Bordels during that 2015 year When that one Hurt's first half of the season It had a lot of

Is Roger Goodell Is Roger Goodell Is Roger Goodell the spleen for the NFL? He's just like taking all the heat He's getting paid like hundreds of millions of dollars To be the villainous

I don't know he doesn't get any name It's a private plane You can be called the trash can if you made $69 million dollars last here. No, but he's taking, he's like basically the NFL's fall guy. Like, here, get mad

at this guy because we make these stupid ass rules or whatever. I was just thinking like Baker Mayfield because he's like trying to turn himself into the villain in Cleveland right now. If you didn't see like last night, his wife was

like tweeting about how his teammates aren't tough enough and stuff. I saw that. That was ridiculous. And then this morning, he said something about he was getting all mad because he was getting booed and he got mad at the at the Browns fans for cheering too loud when they're on offense.

Hold on though. I want to ask Craig a question about this very specific Baker's situation because I don't, Craig, did you see what happened? Basically Baker's wife put, what she did was there was a tweet where someone said,

no one doubt Baker, Baker's really tough, some of his teammates should be tougher. And then she screenshoted the tweet and put her on our Instagram story. My question is, that is not her tweeting it. But what is,

how much does it still matter? Like is it, would you, if she typed it on her Twitter was like maybe some of her teammates, maybe some Baker's teammates should be tougher, you'd be like, wow, she thinks they're weak. Does her putting a screenshot

of someone else saying that on her Instagram? Does that weaken the message at all? Like, is she still like, damn, you probably shouldn't say that? No, I think it hits just as hard. So you're saying she, she just posted somebody's tweet on her Instagram story

complaining about Baker's teammates. No, it was mostly positive of a Baker. And I'm wondering if it was like, Baker positive, Baker positive, Baker positive, and at the end it was like, his teammates should be tougher. And obviously everyone knocked on to wow,

and maybe she was just thinking about the Baker part. What's her follower account on Twitter compared to Instagram? I bet you're a lot more on Instagram. She's in the progressive commercials with Baker. Oh, yeah.

She's in, that's actually his wife. Oh, I didn't know that. No, that is very much his real wife in those commercials. Oh, how nice for her? I think she was in the pitch for Progressive. That's one of the reasons you sign with them.

Like a free acting gig. I think it's, I think going on Instagram story is a bigger deal, honestly. So with that said, I actually have decided that Browns have to extend Baker And like even though he's like fine No, no Because here's why

How quickly we forget that this team just went through 20 years Of absolute fucking madness Like he's the 30th quarterback they've started in 20 years And I'm like, he's got the fuck you attitude That they kind of need And even if he's not great, they almost just need to establish like mediocrity for a little bit

till they can get better. And I'm like, are they really going to pump this dude out the door that I don't know. I saw some local Cleveland like some local ESPN radio guy who in Cleveland hosts some show for them and he kind of said what you said, Hyford's he was going off. He was like, yeah, Baker's not that good

but everybody needs to stop being such an asshole. Do you realize how bad it's been? Dude, it's so daunting to take over that job, man. Like I think that people forget Like these are 21, 22 year old kits. You know, hey, fix the New York Jets. Zach, the last dude who did it sucked so bad. We're all making fun of them right now.

Like, that's pressure, man. Like, not everyone's built to just turn around like a laughing stock. Yeah, he was like, we want a playoff game last year. You really want to start over? Like, you really want to just try it out and get Matt Coral from Old Miss? Do you really want to do that? I couldn't agree. Like, Baker's a flawed quarterback.

Like flawed. It's weird that when Odell wanted to be trade, all these other. some active and like a lot of former receivers are like yeah, Baker sucks and we're willing to say it. That was weird. And also he's, now he's a lot of injuries. There's a lot to concern, like, be concerned about. But that's such a daunting place to go man. Yeah. If you suck.

It was a decent point. It was a nice zag. I'm not convinced. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how Josh Allen would have necessarily failed, fair from the jump. Anyway. Okay. Do you want to come in and be the spleen of the Cleveland Browns? Yeah, exactly. You know, Baker's the spleen. He's taking all the hits. he's paying for it.

Okay. I think that's all we got. Good tie back, Craig. Thank you. We're going to have a show for you guys on Wednesday. We're going to do another power hour before Thanksgiving. We're not going to have a Friday show with prop bets. We're going to spare you from our,

we're going to take a, we're going to take a buy week on the prop. We need to re-injured. Injured spleen. We have to get further testing on the spleen going into our bye week. And we're going to come back to you guys next week, but we'll have a power hour for you. And we should not only should we have power rank,

whatever we did a power rank. We should do a quick little power ring of Thanksgiving food items at the end. We can do that. I thought you're going to say like organs. Power ranking organs? That's interesting. There we go. We can go. Okay. Thank you, D.K. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Mike Wargon for producing this episode. Thank you everyone for emailing us. Ringer Fantasy Football at gmail.com. Thank you, Lorne.

Lord. Thank you. Orchestra. Baobobabre? Deeper and deeper. You would really, you guys would really like it. D.K. is just waiting deeper and deeper into like early 2000s hipster music. No, this is from, they, like, started their band in, like, the 70s. Okay. They're from Senegal. I really respect this. It's really good.

I respect D.K. coming into his own. Yeah. I mean, I'm just telling you, look it up, listen to it. And you're going to tell me, you're immediately going to tell me, ooh, this is good. Orchestra of Beobop. And they're from Africa, you said? Yeah.

West African. It's, uh, I looked it up because I don't, I'm not very good at, like, music genres. It's like, Afro-Cuban jazz or, like, dance music. It's really good. you're really into jazz I am I mean I would say that I say that with that

like the experts would be like no you're not yeah but like I enjoy it when it comes on and I'm like hey this is good I don't have any expertise on it but yeah Did you really identify

with Ryan Gosling's character and La La Land Craig why does he always bring up La La Land and always comes back to La La Land can I say that I've never seen La La Land

that's all right okay I'll watch it There's a lot of movies out there I don't get mad of people you listen to orchestra Beobobob all watched La La Land. That's a really easy commitment on my side.

I was going to say, that's a terrible trade. That is like a Bill O'Brien level trade. I don't get mad at people for not having seen movies anymore. There's a million movies and shit to do. Bill O'Brien level trade. Noted, Crick. Wow. All right.

Well, yeah. I've never seen Terminator 1. So thank you, everyone. Goodbye. Are you serious?