The Ringer NFL Show - Must-Add Players for Week 2

Episode Date: September 13, 2021

We run through the injuries from Week 1 and offer up our must-add players for Week 2 by bringing back a format called Showdown Time. Later, we recap our prop bets from Week 1 and rehash the first week... of the Bad Quarterbacks League. Injuries (1:23) Must-Adds RB (15:23) WR (23:50) TE (37:42) QB Streamers (46:14) DEF Streamers (48:14) Week 1 Prop Bets (49:38) Bad QB League (52:19) Check out The Ringer’s 2021 Fantasy Football Draft Guide here. Email us at ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, this is Warren Sharp, NFL analyst over at Sharp Football Analysis. I want to welcome you to The Ringer Gambling Show. Join me on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays each week during the NFL season with guests Chris Vernon, Ben Solac, and Joe House to guide you through the NFL betting landscape. We'll be talking spreads, game totals, parlays, player props, futures, and much, much more. Be sure to follow the Ringer Gambling Show on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Krollbeck.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Big episode because we're going through waivers today and all the guys that you should add for your lineups this week. But we're doing it with Showdown Time. We're banging back. Binging, we're not binging anything. We're bringing back trivia. We'll definitely be Googling. There will be zero Bing involved, though.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah. For the 12 of you who remember us doing Showdown time last year during the playoffs, we're bringing it back. And if you haven't heard it before, hope you enjoy it. Yeah, you're going to say. You'll find out soon enough, but I'm tremendously excited. But first, let's just get to the injuries from this week, and we have more clarity on them now. Number one.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Jerry Judy, Denver Broncos, is a high ankle sprain per a lot of sources. The x-rays are negative, so nothing's broken, but is a sprain. He's out four to six weeks, and again, a high-encle sprain's different than a regular ankle sprain. D.K., what does this mean to you for the Broncos? And specifically, like, there's Tim Patrick who could step out receiver. There's K.J. Hamler is like the slot guy. Yeah. If you have Jerry Judy first, though, what do you do with him?
Starting point is 00:01:45 Do you cut him? Or if you have an IR spot and he goes to hire, you put him on IR? If you don't, though, what do you do with him? This is tough. This is like the Michael Thomas thing where do you hold on to a guy halfway or like for half the season and hope he'll come back strong at the end of the year or whatever? And like you potentially have opportunity costly keeping him on your roster. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I would say certainly if you have an IR spot, keep him on that. Don't drop him. And I think he is probably worth hanging on to if you're going to make it to the playoffs. He could come on strong down the stretch. But this is a big, huge bummer for me, obviously. On one hand, I'm glad it wasn't worse than it could have been because when he first heard, I was chatting with you guys in our Slack. And it looked to me like he had dislocated his ankle.
Starting point is 00:02:25 I can't believe it wasn't, like, broken. Yeah, this is weirdly like a positive. Yeah. So, like, I was very... Happiness is reality minus expectations. In a sense, I was glad that it wasn't worse, that he didn't break it. He's not going to have to, you know, do all this stuff that, like, Dak Prescott did last year, which,
Starting point is 00:02:42 You know, it's very, very traumatic. But this is still a bad injury. We've said this before. High ankle sprains, don't go away. It's one of the worst injuries you can have for a receiver because they're cutting on those ankles, blah, blah, blah. So it's just tough. I don't see him being nearly as effective as we thought he was going to be,
Starting point is 00:03:03 even if he does come back this year. So it's definitely a big bummer. I'd more be looking at 2022 for Judy. What really sucks is that this was already, the third best game of his career that he was having. That's how much Teddy Bridgewater has helped Jerry Judy. He had 72 yards in the third quarter on six catches. He only did that
Starting point is 00:03:20 twice all of last year. Didn't you guys feel super smart for having Judy in your team for like the first, like the beginning of the game before he got hurt? Yeah. Yeah, it's a bummer. I think he was going to have a breakout season. We'll just have to put that on hold. The good news is he's still really young. He's like 22, 21 years old, so
Starting point is 00:03:36 he has a bright future ahead of him still. Would you consider the other guys in the Broncos step chart? Like there's Tim Patrick who, and then KJ. Hamler, Kajie Hamler's like a smaller, squirrelier kind of receiver who's generally in the slot. He could have had a huge touchdown
Starting point is 00:03:49 against the Giants and he dropped something right at his breadbasket. If you had to pick up one of these Broncos receivers, do you like Tim Patrick or Kajahmler to pick up more slack? Kind of feels like you're stepping
Starting point is 00:03:57 on the second half of the show which is waiver wire pickups, Hyphitz. Wow. Okay, we'll just move on then. Wow. Hyvitz love, or D.K.
Starting point is 00:04:05 loves one of those guys. Well, do you want me to, we're doing showdown time. No, no, no, no, don't say it. Don't say it. No, we're not going to... We'll just move on. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Rahim Moster, 40-Nors running back. It's fine, D.K. He has, quote, chipped cartilage in his knee. I don't know what my idea of cartilage was, but I didn't think it could be chipped.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I felt like bones were chipped and cartilage was like more of a tear thing, but... Rahim Mostert is inventing new injuries. Another reason I'm not a doctor in addition to not going to medical school. Didn't Tray Lance chip his finger? What's going on with the 49ers?
Starting point is 00:04:32 I thought there's a bone. Yeah, there's a lot of chips in 49ers. That's a good point. They're chipping everything. Well, regardless, sucks. Do you think they're calling it chips? Is it like people call soda pop in some places? Do they call it?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Is that a Bay Area term? Maybe. It could be. Anyway, he's out for like eight weeks. He's going on IR. If you don't have an IR spot, I actually think you could drop Rohi Moostert. If I believe, like the time,
Starting point is 00:04:53 the, I believe it's an eight week absence. Is it not? Yeah. Listen, he's going on IR. We put him in our burn book for a reason, and here's why you drop him. Because when he comes back,
Starting point is 00:05:05 we don't it's going to be what's going to happen all over again it's going to be week one all over again you're just going to be crossing your fingers in week 11 when he comes back that he'll finish a game and he won't and then he'll ruin that week and i don't think it's worth it basically unless your team is so good that you're like well i will get to week eight and i'll be six and two or seven and one and competing for playoff positioning but in the meantime you need to like get to you need to make the playoffs i'm not sure that hoping for rih moister to week 10 is like a good strategy unless like you're just really stacked. But yeah, it sucks for him.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Other one. Ryan Fitzpatrick, speaking of eight weeks, quarterback for Washington, again, the hip, was hip sublixation? He's going to miss like six to eight weeks, according to Adam Schaefter. I don't know what any of these injuries are.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know what a chip carlages. I don't know what a hip subluxation is. Subluxation means that his hip socket came out. It came out. His hip bone came out of the socket. Sorry. His leg bone came out of the hip socket. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Went back in on its, on its own. It went back in on its own, I guess, which means it's not as bad as it could be, obviously, but it's still very, very painful and a longer term injury. So he's out for a good chunk of this season, six to eight weeks at least. And again, it's a hip injury, which, I mean, look, ironically, Fitz started over Tua last year for large stretches because Tua was a year out from hip injury. Obviously, it's not the same injury, but okay. Taylor Hineke, will replace Washington, will replace Fitzpatrick as the Washington quarterback. Hinkin can't 120 yards and two We touched two scores in like two quarters.
Starting point is 00:06:35 It's like it wasn't bad. He's been pretty frisky. I wouldn't add him. Really frisky. I don't know if this, do you guys think this helps or hurts Antonio Gibson, who by the way, dominated snaps over Jady McKissick.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, he did. Jayne McKissick didn't do anything this week. I think it helps Gibson because they're going to have to rely more heavily on their run game. It hurts Terry McLaren. It might help Logan Thomas. We'll see how it all kind of works out
Starting point is 00:06:59 because I just think with McLaren, I was so excited about what they could do, stretch the field, McLaren's so dangerous down the field, you know, those more explosive plays in his repertoire, things like that with what Fitzpatrick could bring to the offense. Now, I mean, even if Heineke has been somewhat, I guess, you know, exciting or whatever at certain points, he's flashed here and there. I still don't think he's good. Like, I don't think he's better than Fitzgerald. Fitzgerald. Fitzpatrick, I don't know, I will never ever get that name correct, by the way, uh, Brian Fitzpatrick. But I don't know. I just think overall,
Starting point is 00:07:33 you have to downgrade this Washington offense. It's the ceiling has been lowered now, like points, plays, everything. This is why you don't make season long bets, folks, because I bet Terry McLaren long shot, lead the league and receiving yards. This is why you just bet the overweekly, not long shots. Do you remember when Warren Sharp explained to Bill last year, Bill was like, I want to bet like, I don't remember what the bet was, but two teams in the Super Bowl, Warren's like, you can just bet on those guys every week.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Yeah. And then if you one day, you know, Tom Brady gets hurt, you just take your money back. like, but no, we're dumb. We don't want to... Yeah, we are dumb. Okay. It's like, we like doing these funny things. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:11 For no reason. Michael Gallup, receiver for the Cowboys, is out five weeks of an ankle injury. That kind of sucks. I mean, he... I believe it's a calf. I think it's a calf strain. Oh, was it a calf strain?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I think it's three to five weeks of the calf strain. Hold on. Let me check here. Let's get IT. And IT is me typing Gallup into the internet. IT? Yeah, it's a calf. The Cowboys plays Michael Gapf on injured reserve.
Starting point is 00:08:37 There you go. So he'll miss a minimum of three games. But yeah, we'll see. Could miss as many as five. First of all, Cedric Wilson ran a route on 85% of Dax dropbacks after Gallup got hurt. So he's going to take in that role. But Michael Gap's another guy. We were really excited for how he could contribute.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Ironically, I think the Cowboys' Bucks game was like the best two, the best match of number three receivers in the NFL is like Antonio Brown and Gallup. If you don't have an IRS. spot. Do you cut Gallup, D.K.? Ooh, that is tough. If you have someone you really want to add, I don't want to point to a specific person, but it's like there's an ad you want to make, and Gallup's going to be sitting there for at least three weeks,
Starting point is 00:09:16 probably a little longer. I don't know if Gallup is at that tier or good enough to, to be honest with you. Because like if you watch the first game, it's like this offense is running through Amari Cooper and C.D. Lamb. Now, if either of those guys got hurt, that changes things. but I mean, can you really go living your life like any of these guys are gonna get hurt? It's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I would probably drop them at this point, but maybe that's the wrong instinct. What you guys think? I think I would hang on. Okay, can we, hi Fitz, explain to the people, definitely not me. I definitely know this. The IR situation.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I thought IR was like six weeks. Oh, so IR. It's three? So IR has changed a lot in the last five years. I mean, it used to be back in one. my day. IR meant you were out for the freaking season. It was called Injured Reserve and you were out.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah. If you got placed in the air, it meant drop the person because they're literally not coming back. I don't remember when, but in the last few years, they changed it to be like six weeks and that they could go on IR and you could come off after six weeks. Now it's been down. It's been shortened to three, three weeks. Now, there are like, I believe there's different types of IR and like there's different deadlines. So like if you get placed on IR before after 50 men, three man cut down and IR before a certain point,
Starting point is 00:10:31 Like, it's kind of complicated, but generally speaking, right now, it means you can return after three weeks. However, obviously, the severity of the injury is, like, very dependent on what the actual timeline is. I feel like this, you shouldn't be too scared, then, of Gallup. Like, the IR thing may scare you, but, like, three weeks with a calf strain, I mean... It's different than Moster, where that's the injury means it's more than three. And Gallup had four catches in like the first quarter and a half of the Dallas game. I don't think you should just yet. Yeah, don't drop him.
Starting point is 00:11:05 So the other thing to consider to, you may have said this, but like now teams can do it, do the IR thing. IR2 return with as many players as they want, which was different before because it used to be you could do, you could designate like two guys or one guy a year that you're going to bring back from IR. Everybody else. It's so weird. But now it's just, now it makes more sense. It's logical. It's like in baseball, where you have the 15-day DL, you can put as many guys on as you want, I think. And they can come back later when they heal.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And the NFL has always been like, oh, yeah, you're spraying your ankle, you're done for the year. It's like, why does that make sense? You're just ruining this guy's entire season. I think the real answer is that they were afraid of teams manipulating the injury things to keep stash players on the roster elsewhere. There's actually a whole funny thing. Remember when Rogers, like, came off IR from the collarbone thing? And then, like, went back on. He played one game and they might be able to, like, make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But then they lost and went back on IR. There was, like, a whole legalese argument that, like, the Packers, like, per the CBA, really were supposed to cut him because they weren't really allowed to do what they did. And it's exactly like the problem. It's like your stashing players in IR to get the extra 53 man in the roster. None of this is very interesting to the people listening. But the point is the Packers really should have cut Aaron Rogers five years ago by the letter to law. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Okay. That's the bottom line. So, I are three weeks. All right, three weeks. That was really way more than a big bargain for when he asked me. Okay, let's get to why everyone's here. Free agent pickups for week two. So we're going to do showdown time. Here's how this works.
Starting point is 00:12:39 We're going to go position by position. We're going to start with running back. And we're going to give all three of us. We have not shared these picks. We're going to give our top pick from the waiver wire. But it's kind of, we're going to do it like waivers where only one person gets the guy. All right. So if we all pick the same running back or the,
Starting point is 00:12:56 the same person each position. If we pick the same one, we're going to do a trivia tiebreaker. Whoever is closest on the trivia tiebreaker gets the player. The other two losers have to pick someone else. Yeah, the guy who got second gets the next pick and the guy who got third in trivia, who is the furthest from the answer gets the third pick. We're essentially deciding waivers. Leagues should do this, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:16 They should. Trivia Showdown should be incorporated into fantasy leagues across the club. Should be a function on Yahoo. It'd be better than freaking waivers, which is ridiculous. You ever seen like in the week one that, top, the number one scoring team beats the number two scoring team in your entire league. And now the number, like, and now that guy gets like a top four pick. It's stupid. Okay, wait. I actually, can we, before we get into showdown time, I have a waiver wire
Starting point is 00:13:37 question for you guys. That was, that this is a big argument that's going on in my league. I actually think it's a pretty interesting idea. I want to know your thoughts. Okay. The argument is there should be waivers every single day. Except day off. Yeah. Except Sunday day up because it sucks when waivers ends. And then on Thursday, when everyone's a free agent, which means you can add the player immediately, there's no waiver system, that say Dalvin Cook
Starting point is 00:14:01 could tear his ACL in practice, and then basically whoever happens to be by their computer at that moment gets Alexander Madison, and now his whole season is way better. There's nothing new a skill. It is true luck. We're a month late because we should have helped people
Starting point is 00:14:15 with this in August. But yeah, it's the stupidest rule. Like, you shouldn't be fantasy football, the waiver system was invented for the internet. And now it was not designed for a world where Adam Schaefter can tweet something and then bleach your report aggregates it sends it to your phone
Starting point is 00:14:29 and whoever just looks at their phone in that second can pick up the player and gets Gus Edwards or whatever. That shouldn't be how it is. I don't think it is too late. I think if you're in... I think if you're the commissioner nowadays, Yahoo's pretty flexible with rules.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I haven't checked it. I think you could just change anything you want whenever you want. So maybe you could change it. Which is you get like 100 bucks for the whole season. You can do zero dollar bids so you can spend your whole budget
Starting point is 00:14:49 and still add players and there's one at every day of the week. Or five, four to five days a week because some people are... It is kind of... being first come, first serve when we work in football and we're constantly on our computers. It is, but it's unfair. I have one more than one league solely through free agent pickups that I saw because I do this for living. It's stupid, though. The whole argument my group chat started because
Starting point is 00:15:11 Gus Edwards got hurt and I immediately added Levyon Bello and everyone was like, that is, this is stupid. Craig is literally on his computer. Like that's not fair. Yeah, yeah, I get it. Anyway, yeah, so having said that, we're going to do showdown time. So we're all going to go, who is our top pick for a running back waivers pick this week. DK, do you want to lead us off? Just give us the name and we'll see if we have any matching people. All right, I'm going with Elijah Mitchell for the 49ers. Pretty obvious one.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, Craig. Anyone else? What about you, Craig? That's mine, yep. Yeah, all right. Anyway. Oh. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So we'll do this. We'll do that. We'll just give us the pitch. first, and then we'll go into the showtime to see you actually get to. Damn, you guys. I mean, yeah, so the pitch is basically, Trey Sermon, for whatever reason, we don't know exactly why. Apparently, he just got outplayed by Elijah Mitchell in the preseason, despite the beat riders and anyone within proximity of the 49ers knowing about this. Also, Trace Serman played with, like, the twos and the starters and the preseason. Like, no of this makes sense. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:16:14 But yesterday, I don't know if you saw the report, Shanahan said after the game that Tray Sermon wasn't one of the three best running backs in camp, and that's why he was inactive. It's like, okay. Shanna-Hanagan's. This is shenanigans. It is shenanigans. I don't want to play this roller coaster. Like, I don't.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I'm tired of it. Most returns, Sermon's inactive. I don't want to, but here's the reality. 2009, Arian Foster is an undrafted rookie, he's an undrafted running back in his second year, runs for 1,600 yards. That was a Kyle Shanahan offense. 2012, Alfred Morris is a sixth round rookie, runs for 1,600 yards.
Starting point is 00:16:54 That was also a Kyle Shannon offense. It is infuriating that we are at the whims of this dude. However, you have to try to add Elijah Mitchell if there is even a 12% chance that he just will get 1,600 yards. Yeah. So with that said, want to do showdown time. Yeah, he had 100 yards in a touchdown last week. relief of mustard. Yeah, you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:17:19 You know, in his defense, it's not like he's just some guy. He was a very good college runner, very, very productive at a smaller school. So, I mean, he's fast. He's like he ran a 4-4-ish or maybe even faster than that. So, you know, he's a very good athlete, good fit for this offense. All those things. That being said, none of this makes sense. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I'm pissed. But let's do this. All right. So we actually got this from from shout out Dan Comer. Yeah. fact checkers here at the Ringer who sent us the third Danny involved with this program we only take Danny's and Craigs email or Craigs email us at ringer fantasy football at gmail.com if you want to do trivia or showdown time for the future ones we'll be taking suggestions
Starting point is 00:17:59 please put trivia or showdown time or fun fact something showdown time in the subject of the email and it's easier if the trivia if the answer is a number it's usually easier for us to guess if the answer is a number yeah the way we do this you'll see how it goes but we want to be able to be wrong in order. Like we want three people like people who are wronged to be closer than the others. So like the number is easiest. A year. Okay, with that said, from Dan Comer. Wait, wait, wait. What?
Starting point is 00:18:23 Showdown time. Forget about that. Can we get like some, some music under me right now? Well, I did the gong. You need more? All right, no, all right, fine. I don't know, maybe. It was production value. Including the series, the shorts, the video games, and the movies. How many times has Kenny died
Starting point is 00:18:41 in South Park? Oh, hell. it's a long running show are they still making new ones 20 plus years yes they are wow okay so who gets to guess first I was one who picked first can we tease this out a little I'm trying to think
Starting point is 00:18:56 all right so if he dies how many times an episode no just go just go we got 10 seconds here 263 355 I forgot the advantage of going third DK.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Oh shit. So let's see here. I'm going to guess 262. Would you say 263? I'm going the under, I guess. Oh, your price is riding. You freaking, that's,
Starting point is 00:19:24 from now on, we're going to say it at the same time because of bullshit like that. Oh, yeah, that's probably a good. Yeah, DK, you and I should have just clamped on the ends of hyphets and just kept him at 264 whenever I wanted you to do that. I'm so mad that you did that. That's so, all right.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The answer is 126. Yeah. Oh, shit. God damn. I'm so fucking mad. Woo. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Screw you, Dee. I guess you. Elijah Moore, league winner, baby. All right. Shit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:49 So Craig and I got to do other people. Craig, do you want to do trivia to pick? No, who's, who's closer? No, you got second close to you have second pick.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Well, it sucks because actually there's three guys that I'm between. And so I thought about, because I'm looking at, if I don't get Elijah Mitchell this week, who I will call Elijah Moore at least five times
Starting point is 00:20:07 throughout the course of the season. Yeah. There's Mark Ingram. who is the goal line and the leadback on a terrible team, but in reality, is there another world where the Texans
Starting point is 00:20:16 will just be up by three touchdowns the whole game? Like, I mean, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. So I don't want him. There's Kenneth Gainwell
Starting point is 00:20:22 for the Eagles who just got usurped by Boston Scott for the number two role. I don't care about that. He did usurp him. I was looking at the list. And you know who the guy
Starting point is 00:20:30 actually think I might add? This is crazy. You're going to pick my guy. Go ahead. It's Carlos Hyde, man, for the Jaguars. Nah. You can have him.
Starting point is 00:20:39 He's only, he's basically unrastered. You can get him in any league of any size, essentially. He led the Jaguars and touches. He is like the lead back over James Robinson. And if you're thinking, well, he's old and that's ridiculous. Guess what? This is Urban Meyer who signed Tim Tebow and let him play in the preseason as a tight end.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Solely because Tim Tebow played for Urban Meyer like 13 years ago. Carlos Hyde played for Urban Meyer, or if I can speak English, Urban Meyer at Ohio State. Like, he trusts him. This is going to be the Jaguar's lead back as Carlos Hyde. I don't like this. Yeah, but this is the same problem you have with Mark Ingram. It's like, how often are they going to be winning games and running the ball?
Starting point is 00:21:21 Cool. So you have Jacksonville's version of Mark Ingram, and he also doesn't catch passes. James Robinson, at least is the guy like running rounds. I'm not excited about this. I wanted Elijah. The real answer is if I guess Elijah Mitchell, I'd rather get like a different position. I hate myself for what I just said. But that is, Craig, who are you going with?
Starting point is 00:21:39 I'm going to go with Kenneth Gainwell. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Like, he had, you know, he had 11 touches, 40 yards in a touchdown. He is the, I mean, like Nick Siriani, the coach of the Eagles, said that he wanted Kenneth Gainwell to be his version of Naim Hines. And it, I don't know, it kind of looks like that wasn't, you know, hyperbole. It seems pretty real. He had four targets on 13 routes run.
Starting point is 00:22:01 And Miles Sanders isn't exactly the picture of health. Like, and the Eagles looked pretty good. So I'll take Gainwell. Gamewell did look good. And I mean, Boston Scott's like, I don't think he played. I think he's the only Eagle skill player that didn't get it in the game. And this is a guy who had a pretty sizable role even when Sanders was in. I thought about it because on one hand, it's like, do you really care about this performance?
Starting point is 00:22:20 So he doesn't score a touchdown. On the other hand, he almost scored two. Yeah, he had one that got called back. So I thought about it. He's also looked. He's looked good in the preseason. So he played 25 snaps. Sanders played 47.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Sanders is still clearly the lead guy. But Boston Scott not playing. makes this, it takes it from a three-headed monster that you absolutely want to avoid at all costs to a two-headed backfield, which is much more normal and palatable now. And I actually want both these guys now. I'm kind of bummed out that I don't have more Sanders
Starting point is 00:22:51 because because of the way that this kind of shook out in week one. Also, I think the Eagles' offense is going to be better than we thought it was. So, yeah, I like getting a lot. I mean, the Ingram thing for me is he had 26 carries, which was second most among all players on Sunday. Crazy. Again, that's not going to happen very often. because like you said, they're probably not going to be leading many games.
Starting point is 00:23:11 They're playing the Browns next week. Yeah, they did show they were better than we thought, though. I don't want to Ingram for that reason, because they were winning and how often the Texans are going to have 21, 24. The difference is that Carlos Hyde led the Jaguars and touches, and they were down 24, 21, like the whole time. So what happens if the game's close? Yeah. That's all. I'm not excited.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm not going to defend it. I'm not going to be like, this is a great ad, Carlos Hyde. He's actually the epitome of what we say don't do. ad. Yeah, but you said it. He's not a must add. He's a, if you must add. If you gotta.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Smoke him if you got him. Yeah, it's kind of like sometimes you do what you got to do. That's all. Fair enough. All right, let's get to wide receiver. Dekh, who's your number one wide receiver pickup for this?
Starting point is 00:23:54 Do I get to go again? Wait, why does he get to go first now? Well, we're all giving the names and then we'll... Yeah, but he got to guess last in the trivia. Yeah, we're not going to do that. Craig, you go first.
Starting point is 00:24:04 There's zero chance. No, no, no, we're going to sell the answer that the guesses at the same time. that's what's going to happen. Oh, okay, okay. You can give your purse and first, D.K., but we will no longer be doing the prices. My top one, and this is close,
Starting point is 00:24:16 but I'm going with Sterling Shepard for the Giants. I did that too. Wow, I swear we didn't plan this. I didn't do it. All right. Did you go? Tim Patrick. Yeah, that was who was between for me.
Starting point is 00:24:28 So Craig gets Tim Patrick. High Fitz and I got to do a showdown, right? Yeah. Yeah, and guess what? Craig, you pull up the question, Craig. And guess what, D.K., we're going to freaking give a, answers at the same time because that was some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Do you guys want to talk Sterling first? Sell the people? Yeah, I mean, I'll do. So first of all, seven catches, 113 yards, nine targets. Sterling Shepard, since Daniel Jones took over a Giants quarterback, Sterling Shepard averages eight targets a game. Like, average is eight. But now he's adding big plays.
Starting point is 00:24:59 Like, he had the 37-yard touchdown against the Broncos. And usually week one, unless like someone gets hurt, we're talking about, well, this guy had a big game. And will he continue to be okay? or is he going to ghost you? And you just don't know if that person will just make you look dumb. What's nice about Sterling Shepherd is there's upside here, but he's not going to just ghost you.
Starting point is 00:25:19 He will get four catches a game. He actually is probably the highest target floor of any receiver on waivers. And it's kind of been that way for three years. So he's always going to have six or seven target games, which you just can't say. Now, is that the kind of player you wanted your bench? Not necessarily, but adding the upside of like bigger plays in is kind of what makes me excited. I kind of, I just kind of straight up like Sterling Shepard. I felt like I was on an
Starting point is 00:25:40 island in the preseason liking Stirling Shepard. He's like one of the more boring picks. It's kind of like the Jarvis Landry thing. You know what I mean? It's not super exciting, but the dude just produces. I saw this from Rich Rebar today. This is incredible. Longest ongoing consecutive games
Starting point is 00:25:56 played with 20 plus PPR points. The two longest are Travis Kelsey and Christian McCaffrey both tied. They've both gone eight straight games, 20 plus PPR. the third person on that list is Sterling Shepard with three straight. Wow. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Well, it's absolutely, I mean, number one, that's not going to keep happening most likely. But number two, this is an indication to me why he's so underrated still. Like 20 plus and three straight games. I mean, going back last year. Here's the thing with Stirling Shepard is the week one ads are kind of like going out of date. And there's a crazy variance in who's going to show up. Sterling Shepard at worst, he's a nice guy. Might not be your soulmate.
Starting point is 00:26:38 But he's, like, he's not a fuck boy. It's nice to, like, pick up someone and be like, he's not going to be a fuck boy. Good conversation. Yeah, he'll ask you a lot of questions, good listener. You're not going to be like, oh, I can't believe everyone in this date. You might just have a fine time,
Starting point is 00:26:51 which for week one adds is nice. The only thing about Sterling, the reason I didn't have him as my number one, I was just like, eh, like, Sequin's not fully back. Evan Ingram's out. Kenny Galday is still, like, coming. Like, once, like, everybody kind of gets back in the system,
Starting point is 00:27:05 I wonder if, like, he'll just kind of phase it. You're not wrong. It's just I've been hearing the once everyone's healthy for the Giants thing for three years. Guess what? They're never going to all be healthy at the same time.
Starting point is 00:27:14 It's never going to happen. They're like, well, if we collect these five injury prone guys and they all get healthy, they'll be good. No, they won't. Live in the now, Craig.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Sorry. Embrace the current times. Do the Joker break the pool cue and let Dekin and I fight? It is the Sterling Shepard's showdown time. All right. By the way, we did that. If people are like, God, that's lame.
Starting point is 00:27:39 We did that back last year, and it was lame, but then it became so lame that we're just going to stick with it. Oh, yeah, we couldn't think of a better name, and then we're dwelled for so long that we're going to stick with the current name. Correct. Okay. This is my trivia question. I found this couple of months ago.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I thought it was hilarious. If one of you knows the answer, just we'll do a different one. But okay. How many blimps are there in the world? Oh, I got this. It's only a real. What did you get? put this down too, Craig.
Starting point is 00:28:08 No, I actually like know the answer. It's only like 10 or 11, right? No, it's 25. That's still so close. Well, DK literally knew it, so you got it wrong. No, he saw the answer. Bullsh, I'm not giving it. No, no, he didn't see.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I didn't put it anywhere. I didn't write this down anywhere. He just knew it. So we'll do a different one. No, no, it's fine. It's freaking debt. No, his dad energy knows shit about blimps. No, I'll just give my other answer.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's fine. Screw you guys. Going home. There's 25 blimps in the world. Half of which are actively used for advertising purposes. And the reason is they cost $100,000 a trip because of the helium required to get those things in the air. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Can I ask you guys a question that I've never really had the courage to say out loud? What's up? Why does a tire company sponsor blips? I have no idea. Why does a tire company rate restaurants? That's even better. Well, that's because the... Fisleon stars are how long you're...
Starting point is 00:29:03 No, he doesn't. Michelin stars are how long you're supposed to drive to the restaurant? So a Michelin star is the radius of how far. A three-star Michelin thing is that's worth traveling to that country solely eat at the restaurant. So it's about driving. Oh, that's interesting. Okay. God, you give to drivers.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Anyway, I'll go. If I can't get Sterling, I would go Rondell more this week. Or Christian Kirk. I want a piece of the Cardinals' offense. Interesting. Yeah, Rondale's a good one. But he's the fourth guy right now currently in this offense. Yeah, I think that's going to change.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Because here's thing, he had four catches for 68 yards. Now, on one hand, I'm not saying he's going to get 60s. yards every week. On the other hand, he didn't score. And whereas Christian Kirk's getting the two touchdowns, I'd rather chase the talent of Rondale Moore already having a decent week one role than like the randomness of Kirk getting the scores because like Rondel Moore, combine numbers, his 40-yard dash faster than 96% of wide receivers. His acceleration faster than 96% of wide receivers. The Cardinal seemed intent on getting him the ball and all these short screens he's involved. I just kind of want
Starting point is 00:30:02 the upside on my bench for Rondale Moore if I couldn't get. at like a Sterling Shepard or someone. If I have to choose a Cardinals receiver on the Waverwire, I am picking more over Kirk with the hopes that his role will increase over time, which happens a lot with rookies. Look at Justice Jefferson last year. Like, Rondow Moore played 29% of snaps
Starting point is 00:30:20 and like Aege Green played 79, and Chris and Kirk played 56, which isn't great. But my hope is that over time, this will get better and better. Also, like, look, I've been there and done that with Christian Kirk. Like, just tired of it? Well, do you think,
Starting point is 00:30:33 well, do you think, always talk about how first impressions screw everything. Am I crazy for not just taking Kirk over Moore, D.K.? I would not say that you're crazy. I would say based on the way that these guys were used in week one, Kirk is the more logical answer. But I do agree with you guys that I think that Rondell Moore is the superior talent. And eventually, as the season goes long,
Starting point is 00:30:55 so I guess maybe it just depends on what you need right away. Like if you need a guy to plug into your lineup, I think Christian Kirk may be that guy this week. But down the stretch, over the full season, rest of season or whatever, I probably would have Rondell more higher. So it is just a matter of right now he's the fourth guy. Right now it's Christian Kirk, AJ Green, and obviously Hopkins in front of them. And in terms of the snaps they're playing, the routes are running.
Starting point is 00:31:18 So that will factor in going forward, but it could change for sure. So who do you want for week two, Hyphitz? You're starting this guy week two. If I have to start a guy week two, I probably would not lean on more as much. I will give you that. I think, well, they're playing the Vikings, which I, Honestly should be kind of a shootout. I can see,
Starting point is 00:31:38 I guess I would probably have to bend to my will and go Christian Kirk, but I'm being honestly, my gut would say Rondell Moore, even though I don't. Kirk has done this to us many, many times. What I don't want is, I don't want to fall back into the,
Starting point is 00:31:50 well, this guy played great in week one and scored two touchdowns, and then he doesn't score any in week two. And you're like, what happened? It's like, well, it's two plays. If you watch the game, Rondel Moore was incredible.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I like Rondel Moore. Don't get me wrong. I like Rondel Moore, too. Tell us about Tim Patrick. Tim Patrick is good. I mean, they just keep drafting guys. And, like, you know, I feel like he's a little unlucky with the situation. He's, like, six four.
Starting point is 00:32:10 He had 740 yards last year in, like, six touchdowns. He had 40 yards yesterday in a touchdown. Yep. He's just kind of always produced, you know. In the nine games last year from weeks three to 14 without Sutton, Patrick average 14 and a half fantasy points per game. Like, he's just a solid producer and the quarterback's better this year. I think he's a really unsexy, consistent option.
Starting point is 00:32:32 and if you are like me and lost Jerry Judy, I think he's going to be my first ad. Hall of Fame, boring name guy for Tim Patrick. Like, watching Tim Patrick play is nothing like saying Tim Patrick's name out loud. They're the opposite. Like, not quite Michael Thomas disparity, but like, it's a pretty big disparity.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Tim Patrick's fun to watch, except when the Broncos are being the Jones. Can I toss out one other guy that no one has mentioned? I actually, two other guys, because wide receiver can get pretty deep and there was a lot of wide receiver injuries. I wanted to throw out the next guy on my list was Nelson Aguilar. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Yeah, I think he was also in consideration for me. Nelly. He did it for the Raiders last year, and I think I, the, remember, like, we just did the category yesterday on our Sunday show, like, the guy you refused to believe is good at fantasy. Like, that's kind of what I happened to all of last year with Nelson Aguilar. And then he went to the Patriots, and I was like, great. Well, now he'll just be the guy who catches, like, two passes a game.
Starting point is 00:33:24 He had five catches, 72 yards in a touchdown. He played a ton of snaps, like 90% of snaps. Like, you know, it might, it might. just be that Nelson Aguilor is like pretty solid. Everybody on this list, I mean, I guess this makes a lot of sense, but everybody on this list has fallen out of favor in the fantasy community for one reason or another.
Starting point is 00:33:44 In many cases with these guys, it's all because there's new shiny toys on each of their teams. With Sterling Shepard, it's Goladay. And Kedar is Tony to some extent. Obviously, he's been injured and everything. Then Ingram, there's just shiny other toys on the team, and therefore he gets
Starting point is 00:34:01 dropped down, Tim Patrick, Jerry Judy, KJ Hamler. And honestly, KJ Hamler might be a very good pickup, too. I don't want to forget about him because he did drop a 50-yard touchdown that was just ready to his red basket. People would be salivating if he had just caught that ball. I think he's a very good pickup too because he could earn a lot more snaps playing going forward with Judy out. So I think Tim Patrick and KJ. Hamler would be tied for me.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Tim Patrick gets the edge because I think he was playing ahead of Hamler. He was actually playing in the two receiver sets for the Giants or for the Broncos. goes before Judy got hurt. So they clearly like this guy. He's a big part of their offense. And then when it comes to Christian Kirk, obviously, you got Dantraik Hopkins. Everyone's excited about Rondell Moore.
Starting point is 00:34:41 And then Nelson Aguilar, everyone's excited about, you know, the two tight ends. Yeah, the two tight ends, Johnny Smith and Hunter Henry. Then obviously, Jacoby Myers, we were part of this, like became the sexy name in the preseason and all that.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But, and like, everyone just defaults back to like Nelson Aguilar sucks. But I don't think he sucks. Because of the video and he couldn't catch the baby. But yeah, it's, That's one last guy I wanted to toss out. This is maybe a bit of a deeper cut if you have a deeper league. I think Van Jefferson is worth considering. And it's not because you caught an 80-yard touchdown.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Like, that's cool. I think the Rams really like him. He played a lot of snaps. He played more snaps than 11 personnel than Robert Woods did last night. He ran more routes, too. He did just straight up. He ran 24 routes. Woods ran 19.
Starting point is 00:35:23 He ran the second most routes in the team, only four behind Cooper Cup. Are we, should we be worried about Woods? Bobby Trees. We'll see. I mean, we can't. mustn't overreact in week one, although that is what the Wednesday show will be about. The one thing I'll say about Robert Forrest is they... Bob Forrest?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Bobby Forrest is they did extend his contract last year. However, I'm looking right now, I'm trying to see when's the first time they could realistically get rid of him. He's there for at least a couple more years. So it's not necessarily like Clean Van Jefferson will replace him his free agent deal, but he might just get outplayed. I think the more interesting thing is not, are we worried about Robert Woods? It's, it's, Van Jefferson is playing a ton more than Deshaun Jackson. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I will go back. So Jordan Rodriguez from the Athletic, they did an article prior to the season where every beat writer for every team that they have did like, I don't remember what it was titled. It was maybe hot takes or something along the lines like bold predictions. Surprising contributors or bold predictions or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 So obviously take that with a grain of salt. But Jordan, she said that based on what she'd seen in preseason, Van Jefferson was the guy that stuck out to her as like the surprising guy that's going to contribute because, and I don't have it in front of me, but her reasoning was she saw them connect so many times deep in the training camps. And again, those are not just pre-s,
Starting point is 00:36:40 like they didn't play in the preseason. Matt Stafford did not play in preseason, so we didn't really see it. But the beat riders were seeing this happen quite a bit. Van Jefferson was getting good buzz. And so, I don't know, there is definitely something to this. This is a deeper cut and more of a speculative flyer,
Starting point is 00:36:57 I think, than anything. But I think it's worth doing because we saw this offense, how efficient and explosive they can be, you know, with Stafford Under Center. So I like this one a lot. I just, man, it makes me kind of disappointed, though, because if Van Jefferson goes off, then it's at the expense of one of these other guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah. Okay. So the Sterling Shepherd is the number one first. Tim Patrick and or K.J. Hamler in Denver. Rondale Moore, maybe Christian Kirk in Arizona. Van Jefferson, L.A., the only other one I'll throw is Buffalo. Emmanuel Sanders and Gabe Davis. Like, the bills are going to throw freaking 40 times a game.
Starting point is 00:37:30 and maybe more than that. And there's room for three people in this offense. And I'm curious if it's Sanders or Davis, but like there will be room for three. Okay, tight end time. All right. DK., who's your number one
Starting point is 00:37:46 tight end pickup for the week? A little more bleak. This may surprise you, but I'm going with Cole Kometh. I'm also going with Colquette. Really? Wow. Yeah. I went with Jared Cook and the charges
Starting point is 00:37:57 and I'm really surprised that you guys didn't. So the obvious one I think that you're alluding to, Hyphitz, is my guy, John Johnson, from the Saints, two. He had two touchdowns in week one, three catches for 21 yards, two touchdowns. He, to me, is on the list of people that if you have a spot, throw him on there. You're talking about Commetta, Juan Johnson. He thinks that you thought he would do Joanne Johnson. No, save him for the, if you lose the shutdown time.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Well, whatever, yeah, he'll be my second pick. Just, I'm just, I'm ruining. You just want to talk, yeah, I don't know. Do you want to talk about Commetta or Gleon Johnson? Talk about whoever you want. My point is, Joanne Johnson, exciting, interesting. And if you started him this last week based on the preseason hype like congrats because he had two touchdowns but I would say he's got that that profile where he could be very very boomer bust
Starting point is 00:38:41 he ran I think just seven routes in this game and he caught two touchdowns he played on just 12 snaps so this is like very boomer bust they clearly were using him how I kind of expected in the red zone you know that's a big part of his game
Starting point is 00:38:57 very big catch radius all that stuff so maybe they expand that and go forward So I think he's definitely worth a flyer. You're waiting so long to spike this Joanne Johnson football in my face that you literally couldn't wait to talk about Cole Commet. You're like, no, I'm just going to spike the Joanne Johnson two touchdowns on Hype fits his face right now. I'm saying he's not as good as the hype would indicate is my point.
Starting point is 00:39:17 So false. Okay. Craig, you want to, what's your pitch on Cole Commit? I don't know. Just that he's officially separated himself from Jimmy Graham, who played 20% of it. He's a tight end. He's alive. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He has a pulse. Yeah, I mean, Jimmy Graham played 20% of snaps. Komet played 74 last year. It was pretty much an even split. And, like, you know, he looks athletic. Sorry, I was almost going to say athletic. Just say it. Just say it matters.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He just, like, ran a lot of routes, and there's not a lot going on there with the bears offensively. But if Justin Fields comes in, maybe the offense takes a big leap, Andy Dalton. You know, Colt committed seven targets. Like, if you can get seven targets and five catches a week out of your tight end, pretty solid. I just want to pause right now and say, when we just talked for two months about why take Travis Kelsey or Darren Waller,
Starting point is 00:40:05 or George Kettle, it's to avoid a season of these conversations. Is Cole Komet going to get four tart? You know, it's just like, it's the worst. This is the worst part of fantasy football. Having said that, my first pick is easily Jared Cook for the Chargers. I think that many people listening may be surprised to learn that Jared Cook is on the Chargers. I think that it's like you probably didn't know that. Craig's teammate.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Here's the thing. Jared Cook had eight targets. five catches, 56 yards. Now that doesn't sound like much, but eight targets is the second-most targets any tight-in-got-this-week. Like T.J. Hawkinson had 10 targets. Jared Cook had eight.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Eight is tied with gronk this week. Kyle Pitts, Noah Fant. Jared Cook had more targets this week than Travis Kelsey. But I actually think it's sustainable because the Chargers, one, did this against Washington is a very good defense,
Starting point is 00:40:58 even if they're not quite as good as we think, that they're certainly above average. Most importantly, Herbert is unbelievable. Like, Herbert is the chief. He is legit. I, like, the more he puts on tape, the more it's like, he actually should have played better and other people around him seem to like, there are drops. Like, this offense is great.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And when you're talking about like these kind of streamer tight ends, you want good quarterbacks fundamentally because they can process. You want guys who can, if you're looking at a tight end as a third or fourth option on their offense, you want the quarterbacks who can process through their third or option on a play. Herbert can do that. Also, the line for the Chargers way better than it used to. Like, the offensive line actually was one of the better pass blocking ones last week. Like, they did fantastic. So, I mean, the Chargers are playing Dallas this week. Like, it's shootout. I love Jared Cook. I like him too. I think that was, it was a very close call for me,
Starting point is 00:41:47 but I think Cook is firmly in that conversation. All right. So with that said, I think it's showdown time for you two. You're fighting over. Fight over Colt. This is pathetic. Fighting over Coltman. Yeah. It's like you're both losers for play. Okay. It's time for the Cole Commet. Showdown. That's so sad to hear. How many times per day
Starting point is 00:42:09 on average does an American open the fridge? Wow. How the hell do they know this? I'll tell you what, Craig. It's bullshit. That's how. We want to count it down from three, and you guys got to say the answer at the same time.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Three, two, one. 35. I said 24. Craig said 35. Okay. The answer is 22. Yeah! DK is undefeated in Showdown time.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Hell yeah. Cool combat, baby. Christ. That means I got to make a deep cut here. How many snacks you haven't every day, buddy? I like just open it up and looking at it. Do you guys ever just open your fridge and be like, huh, there's no new food in here from like 10 minutes ago?
Starting point is 00:42:49 That's weird. Yes. Well, and you're like, maybe I will find something in the back that I didn't notice the first time. In a way, isn't it like the most base of human urges? Like, you're just like checking for food, even though you know, Like it's just like, it's the ultimate, like your lizard of lizard brain speaking. It's like, maybe this time. That's your id speaking.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Yeah, it's just like, oh my God. Okay. All right. So if I have to pick a third tight end this week, good God, I'm picking James O'Shaughnessy. Oh, I was going to say this one. On the Jags? Yeah. The man had 10 targets.
Starting point is 00:43:18 No, he had eight. He had eight. Did you have 10? He had 10 targets. I think that's like pro football focus counting the targets. I don't think that's the official stat. Let's check this. Eight targets per the official MFF.
Starting point is 00:43:29 site, but regardless, eight's good. Her PFF, it was 10. PFF had it at 10. That's correct. They have their own little way of doing math. Their own little way. Some of it's, all right, that sounded demeaning. Most of it's better.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Like, they count sacks differently. It did sound smarmy, but like typically, I think PFF would say, you know, they would be more, maybe a little bit liberal and, and that was the intended target of that play. Well, they count sacks differently and like, it's a good way. I think it's logical. But listen, the man ran 44 routes and they're going to suck, throw the ball a lot. That other dude, man hurts.
Starting point is 00:43:59 cut the touchdown, ran eight routes, so I don't think that's a big deal. 10 targets, eight targets, whatever it is. Like, he's among the top five tight ends and targets on a shitty offense or on a shitty team that's going to throw the ball a ton. It's worth a flyer. I like it. He is zero percent owned. He is an athletic guy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Stop saying athletic and two. I won't be clear, I like BFF. PFF is good. I check it every day. But I don't understand how he had two extra targets. That's all. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Here's the actual important. part that I think people need help with. I'm drawing the Jared Cook line. Guys that I actually would start Jared Cook over next week that you probably started at Tanya in this week and we're like, I hate this guy now. I would take Jared Cook over Robert Tanya next week, Mike Gassiki, Austin Hooper.
Starting point is 00:44:44 That to me is kind of the line of underperforming. I think Gisciki had a zero. God, Gassi was frustrating, man. He barely played any snaps too. It's not good. He's a lot. And I think Jalen Waddle ate his and not to mention that's with Will Fuller suspended for week one. Now Fuller's back.
Starting point is 00:44:58 because he's got to get in the field. I think Giskees's toast, honestly. Well, it's not nice year. Would you take Cole Komet over Tanya, Gassiki, and Austin Hooper? I'd take anybody over Austin Hooper. It would be close between him and Tunion, but man, the Packers looked bad.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So I would probably go with Kemet. I mean, honestly, Commet, based on last year, the way he was trending down the end of the season, he was, like, emerging as sort of like, the 2A and 2B was him and Mooney. And so, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I think he's going to be a big part of this offense. You know, it's not going to be like super lucrative fantasy offense or whatever. But in the tight end world, you need a guy who's going to be consistently targeted. And I think he will be. And I don't know if I could say the same about Tenon. I mean, honestly, that offense looked like shit. So we'll see if they improve. Yeah, Tanya had four targets.
Starting point is 00:45:47 We can't freak out. Another receiver. We can't. We can't. Marcus Valde Scantling is another guy who, like, if you need somebody, like, he's another decent ad. Like, we can't, I don't know. we can't freak out too much about Green Bay here.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But it's not fun. And also my eyeballs are screaming to freak out. Do not freak out. Don't trust your base instinct. Just hitting a chair against the lockers. Listen, our Wednesday show will be all about overreactions, but today's about being practical. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Let's do streamers. We're not going to do showdown time for the streamers, but this is kind of more pragmatic. I mean, look, if Justin Fields of Trey Lance are, like, out there on waivers, I think we're all believers that you should probably stash them on your bench. Like if you need, for whatever reason, you just hate your quarterback and you actually need you stream someone for week two. I feel like we're all probably going to agree that number one option is James, right?
Starting point is 00:46:35 We can all agree on that one. Yeah. I mean, if he's out there for sure, James, because, you know, they look very efficient, very explosive in that offense. He had five touchdowns and 148 passing yards, which is very rare. I think that's like never happened. That would qualify as rare. I don't, if I, if I.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I didn't actually count him as a streamer, but I think that he definitely would be the top of list. Why didn't you count him as a streamer? Oh, I don't know, just because I thought the ownership was a little bit too high or whatever. But I went down the list. 44% rostered. Yeah, so, I mean, that's borderline. Whatever, if he's not, if he has not been claimed in your league, go ahead and grab him.
Starting point is 00:47:13 However, I was looking at some of these other guys that were, like, 30 and below. He's 26 on ESPN. So if you're in an ESPN league, there's three quarters of leagues have James. So the interesting thing about all the streamers this year or this week, I should say for quarterback is like everybody has a tough everyone has a really tough opponent next week. Mack Jones stood out to me because they played the Jets next week. And so he would be at the top of my list, I think.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Teddy Bridgewater is another one that he's going up against Jacksonville next week. So it would be between Mac Jones and Teddy probably for me. I would also toss out good old Kirk Cousins. I also think Cousins. Plain Arizona. Is he available? Okay. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:57 He's also only rostered in a quarter of ESPN leagues. Okay, then I like that one too. Because I think he's going to be in a shootout. He had 350 yards last week. Yeah, I think Cousins is like
Starting point is 00:48:07 boring on the surface, but like very streaky football player. Totally. Just huge, huge roller coaster swings. Okay. Defense. If you need to stream of defense this week, I think it's the Bears.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I know that might sound weird because they just gave up 34 points to the Rams, but they looked good. even though they had two huge blow and plays. I don't know if that's nuts, but like they were playing very well. And then like they're going from the Rams. Next week they're playing the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I think the Bears defense is a lot better than the Vikings, even though the reputations might be kind of similar. I like the Bears a lot. And I also think their potential to score is very high. I mean, I have no, I have no complaints about that. I do kind of agree that they did look good. Even offensively, they kind of were moving the ball a little bit. If I had to pick a defense,
Starting point is 00:48:54 New Orleans, man. I mean, they just stopped Aaron Rogers. They're 32% owned in Yahoo, 26, and ESPN. They're playing the Panthers. Like, don't mind that. Sam Darnold. Prone to mistakes.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That is a good one. The bears are, like, more available, but yeah, I would actually endorse the Saints over the Bears if the Saints are actually available in your league, because I agree. The Saints defense is just underrated. I mean, look, I could not believe
Starting point is 00:49:18 how well they played with their cornerback problems. Cornerback. It's astonishing. but who's it, Dennis Allen's their coordinator? He's really good. Okay. Yeah. Any other defenses want to hit up.
Starting point is 00:49:29 I think those two are very widely available. Those guys, bears like 90%. I'd grab one of those two. Okay. All right. Our prop, you want to just recap our propets real quick? Yes, because we did well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 The show hit, baby. We, how many, I should be able to do math. What's three times four? 12. We did three regular over-unders, and then we each had a, like a, longer shot one. We hit
Starting point is 00:49:55 nine of 12 overall, but we also hit two of our longer shot ones, I think. Yeah, we only had two long shots, we hit one. Anyway, sorry, we hit Kyler Murray over passing yards. We hit Miles Gaskin over the rushing yards. Shout out Miles Gaskin. We had Damien Harris over the rushing yards in like two and a half hours. Yeah, it was like early.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It was, he had a long, he had like a 40 yard run. He started the game with like a 40 yard run. Yeah. I was like, oh, this is a wrap. That's trick and go. Mahomes had the rushing yard. on that, did he get it on that touchdown he had? That was a wonderful moment. I think so. My dull bet, the one you guys made fun of me for with Mahomes over 313,
Starting point is 00:50:33 was actually the biggest margin of victory all day. Yeah, he annihilated it, right? Because he had 340. By the way, Alvin Camara hit the over 57.5, and he had, I want to say, the most rushing attempts in, like, years. 20 carries. Well, because you predicted that the Packers would only score three points, right? it's all because I predicted exactly what would happen
Starting point is 00:50:54 if you go back and listen to the podcast so that yeah there you go juju hit under 52 and a half yards full transparency uh I think it was a yard or two lower when we did it was 49.5 when we recorded and so we talked about hitting the juju under but then when you actually placed the bet
Starting point is 00:51:13 it had gone up to 52 and a half unbelievable and he hit he had 52 yards unreal so what a loss but hey we still made money yeah Stefan Diggs over 88 and a half receiving yards that did not hit. Kyler over 42 rushing yards did not hit. Kyle Murray to score touchdown did. I'm just going to take a big picture.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Jamal Williams scored a touchdown. Just made be absolutely thrilled. That was two and a half a one. Did he score two or no? Yeah, I think he did. Didn't you discuss that? Jamal Williams plus 750 to have two? Yeah, was it?
Starting point is 00:51:42 It might have been too rushing. Yeah, but did you actually place that bet? No, he didn't place it, but we talked about it. We, no, I put. So he only had one. Well, I put one dollar on it. So it's irrelevant. I actually have to check.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Well, there's so many bets I actually lost track because I have all of them. And I actually lost track, to be honest. But I did put a dollar. I have to check him as to rushing or two anytime because he did score two. No, he didn't. He scored one. I'm just trying to tell you guys. He only had one touchdown, so it's irrelevant.
Starting point is 00:52:08 And then most, we had him score the first touchdown of the game, but he got hurt very quickly. Well, no. Yeah. It's all right. But anyway, yeah, good week for the prop bets. Bad quarterback league. Was Aaron Rogers, the
Starting point is 00:52:20 best player of the week. So crazy. This is just typical because I think he might have been the best quarterback, or in the bad quarterback league, he was the worst quarterback to have on your team last year. And now this year, he had the worst game of his career. I'm pretty sure. I think basically every team, I think basically every team that moneyed in the bad quarterback league this week, which again, if you don't know we're talking about, we have a special contest on Fandall. It's a ton of fun. Who wants to root for good quarterbacks? We have bad quarterbacks. You have to pick six quarterbacks each week. And whoever, as the worst team wins, interceptions and fumbles are worth points.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Touchdowns and yards and completions are worth negative points. I think everyone who won this week had Trevor Lawrence and Aaron Rogers together. And Dalton, I think. Here's the winning lineup. It went to MN. Gofer 21. He's a Minnesota fan. Shouts out Minnesota, they almost beat Ohio State two weeks ago. Here's the worst lineup in the league.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Andy Dalton, Tua, Fitz, which helped because he got hurt. Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert, and Aaron Rogers. Highest score. Aaron Rogers, 14 points. Shout out my editor, Megan Schuster, a person who was at that Minnesota game. They held on for a while. It was a good game. They did. They did.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Okay. Anything else? No. We'll be back on Wednesday for Power Hour. We'll be doing, yeah, Power Hour. We're going to rank overreactions from week one. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're going to be doing Showdown time every week for waivers. Please send us ringer fantasy football at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:53:46 If you have trivia questions, make it like numeric. something that where we can be right or wrong, like by an amount, like, guess it prices right style. Who's closest, yeah. Who's closest? And then put it in the subject line, showdown time or trivia, something. Thank you so much to everyone. That's ringer fantasy football at Gmail.com. Thank you, D.K., thank you, Craig.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you, Three Dog Night. Also, someone emailed us. You did Jane's Addiction twice in like six weeks. I thought that was tricky. You've done it very recently. Too many people are paying attention to this.
Starting point is 00:54:17 It's making me nervous. Three Dog Nights sings a big song. Don't they have a huge song? Joy to the world. And then Mama told me not to come. I feel like there's so many songs I know like the entire chorus too that I don't know the name of the song. You know Boogie Nights?
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah. It's on that soundtrack. It's really good. Oh. Yeah. Should we Bing it instead of Googling it? No, never. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Spotify it. Spotify. There you go. Thank you, Spotify. Goodbye, everyone. 25 blimps.

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