The Ringer NFL Show - Must-Add Players for Week 5

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

We run through the injuries from Week 4 and offer up our must-add players for Week 5 with our favorite format, Showdown Time.  Must-Adds RBs (1:38) WRs (19:25) TEs (41:38) QB Streamers (52:58) DEF Streamers (58:54) Email us at [e-mail]. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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So whether you're uptown, downtown, downtown, in the burbs, or a transplant. Make sure you follow New York, New York, and the full go on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyfitz. I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck, and we are going through waivers today. Week 4 is over a quarter of the NFL season over. Kind of.

17, 18 weeks. It's not a quarter anymore. They used to be better. When there were 16 games and 4 was a quarter now, I guess we have to redo all the math. That's really annoying. But four weeks are over. We're going to go through all the waivers.

And we're going to do it with Craig. Can you please do the whole thing? Showdown time. Ooh. our favorite dumb bit. If you haven't listened to it before, really simple. We're going to go through every position. We're going to have our top waiver pick for who we want for this week,

or just who we would add off of waivers this week. If we pick the same player, we are going to do a trivia tiebreaker to see who actually gets to keep that player and then the losers to pick someone else. Really simple. It's a good way of prioritizing. Position by position. We're starting off running back.

D.K. Yo. Who is the number one running back you would add off? of waivers this week. This one was tough for me because it came down to two guys. Ultimately, I'm going with Damien Williams from the Bears. And that is because David Montgomery potentially could miss some time here. He had a knee injury on Sunday.

It was unclear exactly what's going on with that. Early indications are, and this is Monday afternoon, that it's not a serious injury that's going to basically keep him out all year. However, maybe it's an MCL tweak or something like that that could keep him out a couple weeks. It doesn't look great for this week. I think, so just to clarify the point, so we still don't know exactly, but it does seem like it was a hyper extension

and that despite how, like, the fourth week in a row, I think we're doing this, despite how bad it looked, it does not seem to be seasoned. The Deontay Johnson. And then before you, he's Judy. Let's not, let's not clump him together with Deonti Johnson because

he's been, he's been battling. He's been really, like, durable throughout his career. He looked like he was in some serious, serious pain. He was, like, writhing around on the ground. He ripped his helmet off. It was one of those injuries where it was very nerve-wracking and scary, obviously, for him, but it looked like for a second there that we'd lost him for the year. Doesn't feel like that's the case. However, Damien Williams, who, if you remember, was a playmaker for Kansas City prior to landing in Chicago, he can operate

both on the ground and in the passing game. And when he took over, he was pretty effective, honestly. And so going forward, if David Montgomery missed his time, which is looking like at least a week or two. If you need a guy that can fill in right away and be a starter. Three down guy. Yeah, like this is like a potentially a top 24 type guy that you could plug into your lineup. I think Damien Williams is the guy right now. He's only rostered in 7% of leagues on Yahoo. So he's definitely out there in your leagues. I have him as well. I have Damien Williams. Boom. Yeah. Hi Fitz. I was between him and I had Damien Williams is my number one. So we're recording this as D.K. said on Monday.

Obviously the Monday of football games have not coming to play yet. I had Damien Williams is my number one guy all day. But then now that we got word that it's just a hyper extension and like, it doesn't, I went from thinking David Montgomery would be out the rest of the season or months from now to maybe he plays like this week.

I have no idea. So with that said, I want the Somagia Piran for the Bengals. It's the same situation, honestly. Joe Mixen has a sprained ankle. He is week to week with, it's a low-grade ankle sprain. it seems very similar.

Like if Montgomery or Mixin are out, Somagia P-Rine will be good filling in for Joe Mixon. Damian Williams will be good filling in for David Montgomery. But all told, I think these are similar guys. Like, Somagia P-Ron is just better than you expect. Damien Williams is better than you expect. So, you know, it's not rocket science. It's just kind of like you think they're probably going to be good when they're in.

They're like, Samashi P-Rone is probably 80% of Joe Mixon when he's in. Damien Williams will probably be 80% of David Montgomery. A couple of pieces. a context I want to add real quick before we move on to the showdown. Number one, when it comes to Samadjapy Ryan Hyfitz, not like I'm disagreeing with you necessarily, but Zach Taylor, coach of the Bengals did come out today and say he doesn't buy the week-to-week status that someone threw out there. He said it's more day-to-day. But then to follow that up, everybody did the, to steal the press box joke, the overused Twitter joke of the week. Everybody was joking about how

last year, Zach Taylor said Joe Mixon was week to week with an ankle and jeep. And he missed 10 weeks. Look, there are certain teams where you can follow the pattern and be like, there's no real reason to expect transparency on injuries. Like, don't forget when Sean McVeigh, how he treated Todd Gurley's injury, like a couple years ago. I mean, that's where Zach Taylor came from. Like, I don't think the Bengals are going to be very forthcoming with his Joe Mixin injury one way or the other. One thing I want to say about these two dudes, though, first of all, this is very important. Somaget P. Ryan, I want you two right now. And if you're listening to this right now and you have a second, go to your fantasy app and like look up Simaji

P-R-I-N-E-P-R-I-N-E-P-R-I-N-E. You guys Google it. Don't look up the age. Based on his face, how old do you think Sima-P-Rine is? Because I'll just, if you can't Google him right now, he is bald. He's a very nice smile, but he's like a shaved head and like a very big beard. Honestly, about as big of a beard is probably any running back in the NFL, maybe any skill player.

I don't think there's any skill player with a bigger beard. How old do you think Samajipi-R-R-on is? Like, yeah, if I was going to say no context guess, I would say, 34. Yeah, me too. I'd say early 30s. He's got Leonard Four Nett Energy, bald, massive beard. Yeah. He's 26. I mean, hey, the maturity sometimes it pays off. He's going to come in there. He's going to do his job. I kind of like this one, actually, because that's a really good piece of context that you added with, like, the last year thing, because ultimately you have to, you have to grab these guys, even if they end up not playing, because the value, it's the role that they

could potentially take over. That's going to be so vital. valuable. And going back to Damien Williams, one second. The other thing I wanted to add is it's looking like Bill Laser is calling plays now for the Bears. And that is a huge deal because if you go back to last year, the Bears' offense really took off. And obviously, there was other variables that play here with like opponent and all that. But the Bears, sorry, the Bears' offense really took off, particularly with its ground game when Laser took over calling plays. So, you know, obviously, I don't think he's as good as David Montgomery, but I think he's a pretty good veteran back.

And so, you know, this could be a more valuable situation than you think. And also, don't forget, the last time we saw Damien Williams, like, he was in the Super Bowl. Like, if Patrick Bonds is not the Super Bowl MVP of the Chiefs' Ninth his Super Bowl, Daniels' had 130 total yards in two touchdowns. And then he opted out for 2020, because his mom

was diagnosed with cancer, like, right before training camp. He said he had to take care of her, so he opted out. And then basically, this was really the first time we've seen him since. Yeah, that Super Bowl was like a Kobe Bryant-Pal-Gasol situation. It was like a Steph Curry-Undrae-Gudal situation. but I guess Igodala won it there but when Powell should have won they gave it to Kobe

it happens you know they give it to the quarterback hearing about all these injuries and Mixon's ankle and Dave Montgomery's knee hyper extension we don't really know doesn't it bother you that you only have Monday and Tuesday to really decide what you want to do with your free agent auction budget like I wish you I wish waivers was like Thursday night

you know what I mean or Friday Some leagues do that some leagues do it later in the week It should be later Honestly it'd be nice if all the leagues got together and we're like hey we're just going to do this Thursday morning because then you can get them in before the Thursday games or whatever. Yeah. And then also it's just easier to keep track of because like the way that I do it, I'm in different different platforms and everything. I can't remember half the time when waivers are

supposed to run for these leagues. So it'd be nice if this was like a standard thing. Because the standard is normally Tuesday night. It's Tuesday night at midnight, right? That's like when it typically goes through. That's too early. No one knows what's going on. You spend 50 bucks on Damien Williams and you find out on Thursday that David Montgomery was a full participant in practice. And you're like, well, fucking great. I agree, but the problem is Thursday night of football because the alternative, basically, where this all processes is when you wake up,

depending what times on you're in, but really, if you're on the East Coast, you wake up on Wednesday morning and you see you got because most of these websites process at like 3 a.m. The problem is, I completely agree. It's really annoying to have to try to guess how healthy these, like we're not doctors, obviously, because we keep thinking people are out for the season

and they're fine. But if you have waivers process on Thursday morning, you're giving people like 12 hours to set their lineup on Thursday of football. I think that's long enough. That's just not going to work. That's long enough to me. No, it's not.

You know that every league 12 hours is going to be like, you can't expect me. You have an entire day. You have a whole day. You're awake for 16 hours a day, essentially. You have 75% of an entire day.

We host a fantasy football podcast. It's a priority for us. There are some people who are just like, you know what? I couldn't get to it this Thursday because you have to make your lineup decisions for the entire week. So you need people to figure out

who they're going to play on Sunday because now you're just pushing the thing like, is David, Montgomery going to play, so do I play this guy on Thursday? And it's like, I don't know. People don't, plenty of people don't want that. Well, regardless, it's probably not going to get moved. Oh, and speaking of all this, we don't actually know 100% with 100% certainty that

that Damien Williams is healthy either because he left the game with a quad injury. It sounds like, based on reports, and again, it's Monday, it sounds like he's fine. Like, it's not an injury that's going to keep him out. That's what we know right now. however if you know if this does turn out to be something that's worse maybe it's a little bit of gamesmanship from the coaches Khalil Herbert is the next guy on this list just keep him in the back to my point to you so to be clear so what it was he left the game but he had it's considered a thigh bruise so he'll probably play having said that yes calil Herbert is really the only other running back on the bear's roster because three cones hurt okay

so to summarize all that David Montgomery's hurt add Damien williams de k and craig would pick him first Joe Mixon's hurt week to week, day to day, whatever. I would add Samajai P. Rine first. Also, Somaget P. Rine looks at least 12 years older than he really is. He's a wonderful smile.

In a good way. Picture. Okay. So I get Samajapy Rine. You two have to do Showdown Time for David Montgomery. Yep. It's time for the David Montgomery

Showdown time. D.K.'s putting his hands up. Nice. All right. Let me tell you guys something. This is, first of all, Shout out everyone who's sent in trivia questions. Unbelievable trivia questions.

You can email us to ringer fantasy football at gmail.com. People really followed through. Like you put the answers in the bottom, body text, have a good source, like a reliable source. And then like... Can we just do a ringer fantasy football show trivia night someday?

I think we're going to... We actually are going to be able to do it. We got so many emails. We're knocking it. That's funny. We're getting more than three weeks. So we're going to have a spillover. Please keep emailing at ringer fantasy football at gmail.

com. With all that said, let's get to this showdown time. I'm so unreasonably excited for this question. Okay. This is from Dylan. Oh, I also said that David Montgomery showed on time. I met Damon Williams. Oh, yeah, sorry.

We are just all over the place right now. What is wrong with us? Monday. Jeez, all right. Get a case of the Mondays. No, I feel like I'm punched drunk. Like, it's a Thursday afternoon. I don't know.

Anyway, for you two to figure out, Damien Williams. Trivia question. It's from Dylan. Unbelievable question. How many different ways can you make change for a dollar? Oh boy. So you're saying how many A U.S.

A combinations of quarters, nickels. In coins. How many different combinations of coins can you make change for a dollar? Oh, boy. I just got to tell you, Dylan, I appreciate the question.

These things make my head hurt. I saw this email this morning and I thought about this for 30 minutes. I'm just going to make up a number because I don't want to try and guess. It's hard to even. even figure out the right way to approach it because I was sitting there. I'm like, I was going to do a

permutation of like, oh, well, there's four quarters and then there's 10 dimes and 20 nickels. So it's four times 10 times 20 times 100. That's like, that's like 80,000. That's completely wrong. That's not even close. Okay, so I already have a number in mind. I'm guessing it's going to be really wrong. But do you want me to say it? And then, Craig, you can say yours. Let me make sure I have my number so I can be, you know, honest and not adjust my answer based on what you say. Okay. All right. I know this is going to be wrong. Forty-five. Oh, I was going to say 200. I'm guessing it's super, like a huge number, but what is the habit?

Craig is, Craig gets it. It is 292. Wow, nice. Okay. Okay. Or if you count the U.S. dollar coin, like if you just a dollar for dollar, 293. Okay. But either way. You count the coin. All right, nice. Damien Williams, welcome aboard. Don't you guys think adding somebody like him is tough?

It's tough because there's kind of two types of waivers. week. It's like I'm, because another guy who I think we probably have on the list is somebody like Kenneth Gainwell, where, yeah, that's my next guy. He is the long-term waiver guy where you're adding him to have him for the next eight weeks. And then there's the Damien Williams types where it's like, I'm going to plug and play him this week. And then if David Montgomery comes back two weeks later, I might even drop him. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's like, I think the reason I had Williams over Gainwell, who is my guy, he's my next guy, he's 29% on Yahoo. The reason I had Williams higher is because I think you can plug Williams in as an

RB2 this week and be pretty confident about it. That's how we are thinking about waivers. Like this week, this coming week, who will play the most and play the best? And then going forward, Gainwell, I think, has flex appeal in terms of every week rest of season, or at least the games in which the Eagles are going to be underdoll. right because like he is a he is a he benefits from negative game striker he is the past catching back in this offense he is the naive hinds of this offense where in games in which the eagles are going to lose or at least probable to lose he's going to get more play in fact he had 20.9 points last week on sunday um miles sanders only had 7.7 um almost equal amounts of opportunities in terms of like fantasy opportunities carries plus targets uh and so and honestly he's looked really good like that's the other I think he could end up maybe having his role expanded. We set it all offseason potential to have that Naheem Hines role in the Nick Siriani

offense. Nick Siriani comes from the Colts and it's born out. So I don't think he's a guy that you can like, he's going to be a little boomer bust, right? He's going to have some down weeks. He's going to have some weeks where it's like six points, five points. But then also you're going to get these situations where they're playing from behind and he's going to have 20 points. It's very similar to like Tony Pollard, I think.

And so, yeah, I think he's definitely a guy you can have on your roster, especially if you are having some injuries or if you just need another guy to throw in there. He's a long-term answer, but I agree with you on the, on the Damien Williams thing, like he's more valuable right now. Kenneth Gamel will have value when the Eagles are losing. He's like James White, but like younger and better. And when the Eagles play the Buccaneers on Thursday in football in two weeks, and the Buccaneers probably roll them similarly to how the Chiefs did,

Kenneth Game will probably have a lot of value. And then when the Eagles play the Lions and they probably win that game, probably won't. He outscored Miles Sanders this year by six points. He kind of looks better than Miles Sanders if you watch them. Yeah, that's crazy. All right. So Damien Williams, Samajie P. Ryan,

Kenneth Gainwell, I think we all agree. Those are the top three guys. I just want to shout a couple other guys. Throw out a few more. If PPR-only league, honestly, a deeper PPR ad. Jeremy McNichols for the Titans, he's like, not really the backup to Derek Henry, but he's the past catching guy.

As long as A.J. Brown and Julio Jones are out. Jerry McNichols this week, if I can say his name, McNichols, Jeremy. Led the league and the league led the team in targets, catches and receiving yards. He was the leading receiver.

So PPR, that's really interesting. Yeah. Latavius Murray, 18 carries for the Ravens. Tyson Williams was inactive. Weird. Didn't do much of the 18 carries, but they're playing the Broncos. It's a good defense.

I mean, 18 carries, Latavis Mervis. is pretty interesting. And then Brandon Bolden kind of just has the James White role for the Patriots, except I don't think I would actually ask

anyone to add Brandon Bolden because he sucks. But the Patriots, I don't know. My, the candle I had on for Romandre Stephen, I still had a candle lit

for Ramadre Stevenson going into this game. I'm probably not, I'm probably going to vote out because at this point, he's in the doghouse. He was an inactive again. However, J.J. Taylor did fumble.

in this game. And so, I don't know how the doghouse works. Like, if you get put into the doghouse, does someone come out? I'm not sure how that works, Belichick. But I don't think we saw J.J. Taylor after he fumbled. And Brandon Bolden is just not, like, very good. And so I'm just wondering. I don't, I just am not recommending anyone at Patriots running backs. I would trade for Damien to be clear. I'm not, I'm also not saying that. I'm just saying this is like a situation to monitor going for it. I really don't know what's going to happen with this group, but I don't think Brandon Bolden is the answer. Speaking of things,

the moderate, Dalvin Cook, again, just another, more ankle issues. It's just going to be really annoying going forward. So, I think Daryl Williams

for the Chiefs is an interesting one. That may, it might be nothing. But he had 11 carries for 30 yards and a touchdown plus three targets, two catches for 11 yards, this last week.

He played 24 snaps to Clyde Edward O'Lears, 35. So it was not quite half and half, but he was definitely pushing Clyde Edwards Hillier in the carries. and routes run and targets areas.

So I don't know. I think it's just interesting. Keep it in mind, it's maybe more of like a handcuff-type-type flyer situation. Yeah, I would say him being a handcuffed decline is very accurate. And if you're in a much deeper league, but that's about it. To briefly go back to talk about the Tennessee Pass catching running backs. Derek Henry this year, more catches than Alvin Camara.

I know. It's crazy. Camara had 26 carries, which I believe is career high in this last. last week. Zero targets. Craig, how does it feel to be a little bit right about Camara falling off and yet have zero Derek Henry as if you didn't capitalize on it at all? That is tough. I refuse to draft Derek Henry. I won't ever do it. I already feel like a moron. It's like everyone who gets hurt and we're like, well, this guy had 400 carries last year. He's got to get hurt. Well, maybe he's the only guy who doesn't get hurt and just go with the guys. We don't get hurt. How crazy is that? Okay. Anyway, we're all in. Wait, so D. D.K. Who are you picking? Gainwell. Okay. Okay. Damien Williams, Samaja Piron. Kenneth Gainwell.

Nice. Wide receiver, DECO's your number one wide receiver pick for this week. I hoping this one counts. High Fitz, I can't remember if you told us this was out of the range or not.

Darnow Mooney for the Bears? Scrapes in. Yeah, he's been able to. 38% rostered on Yahoo. I had a couple guys on this list. I think it's a pretty flat list of receivers that you could go with. And again, like we were talking about earlier,

there's a few guys that are short-term plug-in type players. A few guys that are longer-term. I actually cited on like the more longer- term thing here with Mooney because I think number one, he is the de facto number two in this offense behind Alan Robinson. He is the number two on this

offense. He might be the de facto number one is really what I meant to say because Justin Fields really likes strong to this guy. In fact, when he's been in, when Justin Fields has been playing, Mooney has out targeted Robinson 15 to 13 this year. There's a clear connection, especially deep down the field. Justin Fields hit him

a couple times on deep passes. They seem to have good rapport there. he's going to be a boomer bus type guy because you know the deep deep passes are always a little bit hit or miss here and there and we don't know what's going on with fields but if the bears do the right thing just in feels remains a starter mooney i could see as a plug plugging him in in your flex and hoping to get a deep shot or two maybe a touchdown um and you know he's kind of like an arbitrage version of Alan Robinson he's probably outscored or probably going to end up out scoring Alan Robinson at this at this rate so uh yeah I'd say add him just to see how it all goes with fields Craig you bit on Darnell Mooney since July yeah and it was for this reason it was for the the impending Justin Field's starting job so yeah I love Mooney he's who I have first as well in a close second I actually I won't tell you who my close second was in case

I lose this trivia but yeah I really like Mooney, and I think he can be a bit of both, D.K. I think he's long-term and short-term. I think he's just as good short-term as any of the other guys on this list. So that's why he's the number one for me. That's probably true. Yeah. Okay.

So we'd all let Darnell Mooney if he's available in your league. Let's go to trivia to see who gets him. So is this a three-way showdown. It is a triple Darnell Mooney showdown time. He uses some sound effects on that way. There's two fun questions here. Do you guys want one about The Simpsons or about Bridges? RIDges.

Same. Okay. It's from Chris. Chris. Chris. How many bridges are on America's highways? Oh, no. Hell.

I can give you a little context. Okay. America has 4 million miles of public highways. That's what we're looking at. How many bridges? In the United States. Vehicles in the United States travel more than 3 trillion miles every year on this highways. Three trillion miles a year.

America's 4 million miles of public highways. So how many bridges are on America's 4 million miles of public highways? I'm going to tell you something, if it's that context, there's absolutely nothing for me. What? That didn't help? You know what I love about the questions that we, and again, we've asked people to give us these types of questions, but they are designed to make us sound like idiots. Well, yeah, the questions are so random and ambiguous. They're like, how many bananas are there in the world?

And you're like, I don't know. Seven. I like that. Trillion. Yeah. So how many bridges are there on the highway system? You said four million miles of highways. Bridge per mile.

I've always admired. Bridge per mile. Targets per bridge driven. I got a number in mind. You guys think of something. Okay. I'm just going to go with, there's probably a bridge every eight miles,

and I'm going to go with 500,000 bridges. Dude, that was the number I had. Are you serious? Yes. I'm not kidding. I had 500K in mind. I'll go for, 99.

99. All right. All right. I'm going to go lower. I'm going to say 150,000. Yeah. 150,000. Okay, let's see here.

This is from, what is the source? This is per the American Road and Transportation Builders Association. Great. The answer is. Great association. 615,000 bridges.

Wow. D.K. Hell yeah. I can't be low. I got it. I, price is right at it. That's annoying. Okay.

So you get Darnell Mooney. It's a lot of bridges. 615,000 bridges. That's a ton of bridges. The world is so big. I don't mean to be an idiot. But like, dude, the world is so large. You don't many 600,000 is?

That's like so many things. Wait, wait. Was this in the world or just in America? No, it was in America. Okay, okay. You know that question I always think about? And I don't know why this keeps coming up in my mind, but I've literally thought about this multiple times in the last few months

is how many lakes are there on earth? Oh, my God. It's got to be a fucking. billion lakes. So the population of Boston is 680,000 people. So imagine if every person in Boston was a bridge, and that's how many bridges are in this country. Yeah, there's 12,000 per state if you divided by 50.

That's a lot in a state. What a large place we live on. Okay, anyway. So I got Mooney. I am second, which sucks because it's worthless, because I feel like, again, for the third week in a row, the theme is there's a lot of good receivers that are just out there. If you're not first, your last, If it's...

I guess, I would take Cadarius Tony from the Giants. That's who I want. I love him. With the caveat that like if Sterling Shepard and Darius Slayton come back, like I have no idea what his value will be. He might just go back to playing like 12 snaps a game. Like I have no idea what happens. But if Slayton and his shepherd remain out, Catarious Tony is good and like a number two option in this team and like is very, is an excellent underneath receiver who's getting open.

He's the rookie obviously. He's really good. It's so hard to like rely on him because if Shepard and Slate in both play this week, he might be completely worthless. But the upside is there. I was also, I'm curious who Craig picks next. I've got a few other guys who's thinking about, but Tony's like the highest upside guy for sure. Yep, I was 100% going to pick Tony. I love him. I don't know why I had this weird feeling about him. When I watch him, he looks like Sequin as a wide receiver. I don't know if I trust Joe. He does not. He does. The way he cuts, he is like incredibly shifty. I'm surprised you didn't say it looks more like Deontay Johnson.

Yeah, yeah, I could see that too. Maybe it was just because I was watching the highlights of the Giants, but just like the way that they move, like, the way they plant, that he was so incredibly shifty. I just really like him. I don't know. I don't trust Joe Judge to recognize that talent and, like, actually play him. But I really feel like he could be like a real guy, like a top 20 wide receiver in the league.

Remember that when the Giants took him, many criticized, but Urban Meyer really wanted Cadar's Tony. And his judgment's infallible. Big week for Irvin. My, I'm stuck between two guys. You know what? I'm going to go, for wide receiver, I usually go a little bit more longer term than I do shorter term.

I've liked him for a while. I'm going to go with Van Jefferson on the Rams. Had him on my list. I like this one. He's had the exact same amount of targets as Robert Woods the last two weeks. He's had six each game. He has three more points than Robert Woods this season, straight up.

That's crazy. He's the second highest scoring Rams pass catcher this year. I really like Van. They liked him a lot in training camp, and he looks really good. He's the deep threat. He's playing way more than guys like Deshaun Jackson. And, yeah, I can see him getting better as the year goes on. I like Van a lot.

Wait, so are we panic button on Robert Woods, Mr. Bobby Trees? He had a really garbage time touchdown that saved the day. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe if he didn't score that, we would be saying yes. So maybe yes. I think the, while I get what Dick is saying, we're eventually leaving out, I'm starting to be like, we have to just, like, rid ourselves of the notion.

that this is a Cup, Woods, you know, timesure thing that will even out completely. Like, I think Cup is the one and Woods is like very much a number two who's very good at blocking. And that is really to our detriment. Yeah, it's bizarre because he's running a ton of routes. He's getting a ton of snaps. He's just not getting targets.

It's weird. And maybe this is, look, targets are an earned stat. If you're running really crisp routes, getting open a ton, you're going to get more targets. That's clearly what Cooper Cup is doing. Jordan Rodriguez from the Athletic wrote another really great article the other day about Cooper Cup. And in it, basically she talked about how at the Combine, they had a meeting with Cup and they were so grateful that he bombed the Combine. Like he ran like a 4-6 or a 4-5 or something really crappy.

He bombed it. And they were so stoked because they had, when they had met with him in this Cooper Cup and the Rams, when they had met with him at the Combine, they were like blown away. Especially McVeigh was like blown away. by his smarts. Basically, when he would go out on the field, he can recognize coverages. He knows exactly which way

he needs to break it open. Option routes, side adjustments. Some of these things that are very difficult for some receivers to see is basically you have to be on the exact same page as your quarterback when you go line up on the outside and convert your route into something based on what the coverage is telling you.

This is why so many Patriots receivers famously flame out is because they can't figure out some of the option route requirements that these receivers need. And when I was reading this article, Number one, it was really cool to hear that about Cup, like he's a very cerebral player or whatever. But like, the first thing I thought of was like, this is why they loved Van Jefferson. I think Van Jefferson is the same deal, very cerebral, smart, cliche, but it's true.

Coach's son, like his dad is an NFL receiver's coach, I believe, or at least he's a coach in the NFL former receiver. And he's been around the game forever, knows exactly what to do in what situations based on all the coverages and all that. I was like, first thing I thought I was like, oh, this is why. they love Van Jefferson so much. And they took him in the second round, even though he was projected to be like a third or fourth rounder.

So this is sort of an aside and more like football nerdy than like anything. But I just, I got really excited to thinking about what Van Jefferson can be based on that little bit of information. I just want to throw out there that Van Jefferson's dad is named Sean Jefferson, who is a receivers coach that Calvin Johnson said was the best receivers coach in the NFL. Wow. That's a good nugget. Love it.

Love it. So, okay, so Van Jefferson for Craig, Darnel Mooney for D.K., Kedars, Tony, for me. A. A.J. Green, obviously, had a big week for the Cardinals. He's got six targets every week. I hate that we're just throwing out Cardinals receivers here. It's like, Rondell Moore, Christian Kirk, A.J. Green.

Yeah, it's like we play Russian roulette every week with these guys. The tails wagging the dog. Like, the Cardinals offense, in a weird way, it's like, that's very much air raid. Like, everyone's just running the four-verts, and it's like pick your poison. And, like, it's going to be very hard to chase. I'm kind of sick of chasing it to be. be honest. So enough of the Cardinals who do. They're playing great. Randall Cobb, 69 yards, nice, two touchdowns. That's exactly what they traded for him, right? This is hilarious

that it happened. Again, hard to chase though. And then this is deeper cut. Quintas Cephys for the lions is good. Like, he's a good player. Yeah, yeah. And he had five catches for 83 yards. Kaleefs got the two touchdowns, but like, I actually think Quintes-Siefs will be quite good going forward in a deeper league. And is there any other receivers you guys want to shout out? Yeah, I wanted to talk about deeper leagues If somebody has an IR spot When do we start talking about Rashad Bateman? He started practicing last week for Baltimore

He has still been on the IR But he did practice last week I don't know you could do that Is that allowed you practice but stay on IR? Oh yeah, yeah They have to like actually move you off of that Before you can play But yes, you can come back

There's like a 21 day window So you know Sammy Watkins has been fine Marquis Brown's been really good But if Rashad Bateman had never gotten hurt He was getting drafted pretty highly are getting, you know, projected pretty highly out of all the rookie wide receivers. So like, D.K., when do you think it's the right time to start preparing for him to return?

Well, he is, he has, he was activated off I are. Oh, he was? I think he was coming back. I think he's coming back this week. If not this week next week. So I think now is the time, I'm talking about in the game. Like, they're going to play him. I think this is the week to grab him, get ahead of everything.

And I like this. He was on my list. Yeah. We really want to, like, Mark Andrews is starting for everyone who has Mark Andrews. Markis Brown is a lot better and like a very good option, even though we, I'm sorry, people are honking at me at my house, but on the street. But Markies Brown comes up and people are like, no, I'm not playing Markey's Brown. But seriously, though, Markies Brown, Mark Andrews, are we really going to tell people to

play the third, if, at best, Rashad Bateman comes the third option on this team? Do you really want that the third option on like the lowest passing team in the league? I think normally I would say no. But with the way that things have gone for the Ravens this year, and look, this is a small sample. But this week, Comar Jackson, 37 pass attempts, 316 yards is like one of his only, I think he's only had like two 300 yard games in his career. He had one this week.

They're passing more. He looks pretty good passing. They're connecting downfield. Like his yards per completion, I think, is tops in the NFL. So they're creating chunk plays. it's not as voluminous as a lot of teams, but they're getting more yards. It's more efficient per pass attempt.

So I definitely get what you're saying. But in this case, like a guy like James Rochay had five catches for 64 yards this last week. I think there's a chance that they just become a pass funnel team through Marquise Brown, Mark Andrews, and Bateman. And Sammy Watkins is kind of out of the picture. You don't have guys like Devin Du René or Prochet coming in and kind of like stealing stuff.

But like, there is a world in which they continue to pass at a higher rate than we're used to because all their running backs are over the hill veterans that don't have any juice. So that would be like the scenario that I would paint for you. I am definitely cognizant of like what you're worried about there. But I mean, again, this is a first, it's the same, it's the same argument I'm going to throw out you with Cadarious Tony. It's a first round receiver. They clearly thought high enough of him to take him in the first round. because they think he's going to have an impact

and because that's maybe what they want their offense to be. Like they've used two first round picks on receivers in the last three years. So maybe that, like, this is where they want to go with their offense. I think they're sustained. Well, what's weird about them is they're sustaining a lot of people fantasy-wise. They have three wide receivers, including a tight end, I mean, three passcasters who have over 250 yards right now.

The bucks don't have that. The Rams don't have that. The Chiefs don't have that. Seattle doesn't have that. So, like, they are sustaining three viable options right now. at the past catching position. And if Bateman's really good, I don't know.

I mean, we might be feeling dumb. I, D.K., actually, that was very convincing from D.K. Craig was fine, but D.K. was very convincing. Yeah. I was going to say, Craig,

the comparisons to the other teams, I can't believe that about, like, Seattle and the Rams and stuff. That's pretty crazy. But in the genre, the same genre, of guys who were just activated off injured reserve and are back now for their team. I'm going to throw a Curtis Samuel

for Washington, if that's what you're kind of scraping for. So Logan Thomas, the tight end for Washington, is a hamstring injury and he's week to week. This is a situation where, so the backup tight end for Washington's Ricky Seals-Jones. I do not think this is a one-to-one. It's like Logan Thomas,

he's like the number two option for Washington. He gets certain Ricky Seals-Jones steps up. I think it just gets redistributed elsewhere in the offense. Terry McLaurin sees more work. He had a big week. J.D. McKissick probably sees more work. But Curtis Samuel probably steps in and does a lot more for Washington off the jump.

I have no idea what Curtis Samuel's usage will be early, but this is the offensive staff in Washington that kind of got the most that occurred as Curtis Samuel a couple years ago, and basically Curtis Samuel was getting open, but Kyle Allen was the quarterback, and he sucked. But Curtis Samuel, to me, I would rather have them shot Bateman for a lot of reasons.

Yeah, they eased him in this week. I think he ran around on like 25% or 30% of their snaps or something like that. They're definitely easing. him in. But going forward, I agree with you. I think he's, he's another one of those guys where kind of fell out of favor in the fantasy community for a number of reasons, but I think he's good. I think he's good. He's a dynamic player. Fell out of favor in the fantasy community is how Bitcoin people talk. Is that how we are now? Isn't it true, though? Like, isn't it true that the fantasy community at large, like has their

favorites and the people that they hate? That term. I just, oh my God. Okay. Wait, I want to talk out, toss out one person here. if you have an IR spot, Michael Gallup has been, he has missed three games. They think he was going to miss three to five. So this will be the week, the fourth game that he misses coming up.

If you have an IR spot, grab him, put him on it. He's 47% rostered in Yahoo. Yeah. Could be coming back soon. I don't know if you guys maybe mentioned it and I missed him,

but Randall Cobb. I did say Randall Cobb. It's cool. You're just not listening to me. It's fine. He's grinding tape. He's on Twitter. He's grinding tape at all times.

I've never listened to you. God knows what. is doing. It's okay. So, wait, there's a couple of their injuries, receiver-wise, and I wanted to talk about this person, because I wanted to put this guy in the burn book last week, but you were so passionate about Mike Davis. I didn't mention it. Will Fuller broke his finger, and I'm sick of this guy.

I am sick of Will Fuller. I think he can cut Will Fuller. I spent so much money on him that I feel like I shouldn't. That's called a sunk cost. Yeah. I just, this is why I was not on board with you guys. He misses week one with his suspension from last year. Week two, he missed for personal reasons.

Week three, he has a catch and hurts his elbow. And then week four, he breaks his finger. And now he's out, he's like week to week. It's just infuriated. I'm sick of this guy. You guys were really in a little fuller, and I didn't really want to be hurtful, but, like, I just feel like you guys weren't paying attention to the fact that, like, he just was hurt every year of his career, put up all these career highs.

We felt super smart. And then it was like, oh, he was suspended for PEDs, which probably helped him play. And then now he can't do that. And then now he's getting hurt again. He broke his finger. It's not like. PEDs weren't helping that. Maybe you should have lubricated the muscles, Craig.

I don't know. Anyway, no, I think you can drop Will Fuller. This just seems like a very bad start for him in Miami. Also, there are things, I think, going on in his personal life that are, we should be kinder. Like, there are other things. But I think you can cut him. I don't think he's doing anything. Before we get, you're saying we were really in on him.

I'm looking at our final rankings coming into the season. Craig had him 79. I had him 89, hyphids had him 83. Oh, sorry, 99. Oh my God, suck on that. 93. 93, not not 83, but still. Okay.

That's a big difference. You were four spots away from me, hyphids. Four spots behind D.K. You're like, I was never on him. Means you were higher on them than me. Revision is history. Oh, wait. No, hold on.

Stuff to tape. I was actually lower than it. I was reading the wrong column. I had a, I had them at 93. You had him at 89. Craig was highest at 79. Wow. Anyway.

Well, what am I supposed to trust? The guy who can't read the columns? Like, please. I had to scroll down. I do my own research, okay? That's what I'm going to do. All right. Enough of all this.

All right. We just threw it a bunch of names, but yeah, the headline is there's a lot of receivers that you can pick from. Throw a dart. The one we would prioritize is Darnel Mooney. And quite honestly, the rest of them, oh. Very, we have what? We have more now? There is a strong chance.

You already mentioned this when I was not paying attention to you, but Jameson Crowder from the Jets. No. We actually missed him, no, yeah. I think he's actually worth adding because he, number one, he was like a huge part of this offense last year. I know it's a new quarterback, new play. place, a new O.C. new system, all that. But in his first game back, nine targets, seven catches, 61 yards, a touchdown, 19 points, and PPR. I figure, even though Elijah Moore is due back

off a concussion, I think this week, my best guess is that Crowder inherits sort of like the Braxton Barrios role from the last few weeks, which, or I guess from the first four weeks, which has, it's been quiet the last two weeks, but I mean, again, he had 18 targets. in the first two weeks of the season. Brexenberry Lest did. And I think primarily it was coming out of the slot. So Jameson Crowder is their slot receiver. I think Elijah Moore has been running more on the outside

or at least some routes on the outside. And obviously, Corey Davis is sort of like their ex guy or whatever, their Z guy. So I think there's a chance Crowder has a pretty big role going forward. Hold on. But I think he's worth a flyer. So look, we all agree. Corey Davis is very good and he's doing great.

I'll begrudgingly accept Jameson Crowder is good. he does have like a really big chance to get a lot of targets and PPR especially James Crowe can be good. However, considering the Jets are still the Jets, I don't care that they beat the Titans, they're still the Jets, Zach Wilson is still rookie, the offense still sucks.

We can't just tell people to add all this stuff. I think if you're actually saying crowd will be good, I think people can cut Elijah Moore, just fucking drop him. That was aggressive. That was very aggressive. You hate Elijah Moore. Why are you making me make that choice?

He's the third option on the Jets. And honestly, I've had some resentment at the both of you that have kept to myself for the constant Lijamore plugging That ain't me, big dog. That's D.K.'s guy. But in all seriousness, though, if Moore comes back, we can't actually tell people that have three Jets receivers on their teams, right,

in a 10-team league or even a 12-team league. Probably not. I mean, I'm not telling people specifically to have Elijah Moore and Jameson Crowder. No, not the same team. I'm saying I think if Crowder has a role, I think Moore is dropable, right? You've got to cut people for all these people we're saying that. I would cut Elijah Moore for Damian Williams tomorrow. Is there a world?

Is there a grayer that we can live in? we maybe just pick up Crowder and see how it goes? No, you got to cut someone to add these guys. You have to cut Elijah more. I would cut Elijah. That's the new rule. This is so specific. I thought James and Crowder was like 33.

He's 28. I feel like that guy's been around forever. It's called the Somaget P. Ryan. Anyway, all right. Sorry if that got me too passionate. I love just cutting Jets players. You hate Elijah Moore. Sheesh.

Cut Ty Johnson while you're at it too. Hyden's. Jeez. Whoa. yelled that into the Zoom. Sorry, I'm just on one right now. I don't know what's going on with me. All right.

D.K. is your number one tight end. Is it a Jets player? I'm really sick of you right now. Dalton Schultz from Dallas, 33% roster on Yahoo. The man is actually becoming like a major part of this passing game, much to my chagrin because

apparently is taking the place of C.D. Lamb, who, I mean, I just don't even want to go there. But Dalton Schultz, the last two weeks, 15 targets, 12 catches, three touchdowns. Dak Prescott really trust him. And I think the Cowboys are like going

slower and more run heavy and more to their old, like sort of like their old identity than we thought they would maybe. Because obviously last year, they were playing from behind so much and their defense was so terrible that they were playing really fast. And there was always the chance that I wasn't going to like

continue to play that fast and play like with that negative game script forever. but like I think they're slower than we even had like been warding ourselves against. So a big part of that is like more tight end, two tight ends sets and and more stuff in the, in the passing game with tight ends. Dalton Schultz has clearly been a beneficiary of that Blake Jarwin was another guy that people were kind of excited about. It looks like Schultz is the guy.

So I mean, yeah, like I saw this for JJ Zacharison, 36% target rate last week, 28% target rate. He was more than a third of the targets. That through 22 passes. He's crazy. So he's a must add, in my opinion. He has a potential to finish as like a top 10 tight end. And here's the thing.

I think the reason that happened, how is Dalton Schultz getting a third of the targets? I think it's because the Panthers specifically are just a lot weaker against tight ends than they are receivers. Having said that, the Cowboys play the Giants next week. Guess what? The Giants can't play tight ends either.

I mean, the Giants, I believe, yeah, I'm looking at it now. Giants give up the fourth most points to tight end through four weeks. So Schultz is probably going to, he's clearly taken the job from Blake Jarwin. I also have Dalton Schultz

is my number one for the week. I agree, T.K. But there's another good option. I'm curious of Craig. It's going to go with Schultz or someone else. No, I think I'm easily going with Schultz. To keep it really simple, he's the number three tight end in fantasy right now.

There you go. Number three. He's third in catches. We can't ignore that. Yeah. It goes Travis Kelsey Gronk, Dalton Schultz. That is weird. As we all predicted in my rankings,

if you go back and check the column, I had Dalton Schultz 83rd. You did. right after Will Fuller. Right after Will Fuller. Yeah, okay. So Dalton Schultz is the guy. We don't need R.

He's number three in fantasy. Cravia. Craig, hit us. Dalton Schultz, showdown time. That was your best yet. Thanks. This is from Kevin. Kevin.

How many people in the United States are currently named Craig? Wow. How many people in the United States? United Not the world, United States. Can I say this?

I have never in person met another Craig. Oh my God. Are you serious? I don't know. Craig, how many people do you know? How many people have I met?

Hmm. How many people have you met? No, I'm serious. 20,000? 20,000. 300 million people in the country. Do you think you've met 20,000 people? I mean,

think about how many times you're like in a, like a waiter or like in a, I mean, there's so many instances. Does that count if, I'm talking to like, you say, Like you guys get each other's names.

Yeah. Think about how many kids you go to school with, how many kids you have class with in college. So we can just say the women named Craig is statistically probably negligible. So we can, 300 million-ish dudes in America. Sorry, 330 million people. So let's go with like 170 million dudes.

If it was 1 in 10,000, right? So what is that? 0.001. Craig. I really want to get this. this is really important me. Do you want me to guess first again? Yes.

I'm going to say 130,000 people. Oh, wow. That's way more than that. I was thinking. It's probably too many. I was going to say 10,000. I'm going to say 130. I'll middle you guys.

50,000. I feel like you didn't think of an answer before we gave ours, Craig. That is true. I did not. It's my fault. I jumped the gun. He's a son of a bitch. Well, Hyvich is like on his calculator.

I'm math. I literally, I literally, I want to get a the seven okay this is from okay the estimate is 498,000 people shut up that seems wrong that's way too many 400,000 crags wait no I'm reading I'm sorry I'm reading it wrong completely wrong that's too many no it's not too many first of all oh 263,000 oh no have I messed up either way what did you say Craig 50 would you say DK? I said 10,000. Oh, either way.

Okay, I'm going to win. I think it's 260,000. Man, that still sounds wildly too high. That's one in every 1,300 people, I think. Is that sound right? Craig, I don't know. Craig, you're supposed to be the expert on this. Is one in every 1,300 people being named Craig a lot or a little?

Feels like a little. I mean, I guess that does, yeah, when you put it that way, it does sound like a little. Well, that's interesting. I think I win. I think it's 200,000-ish. apologize in advance for not properly vetting the exact number here. How many people are named Danny? Like 80% of America? How many people in the company are named Danny?

There's a 67% target rate for people named Daniel on this podcast. All right. So, wait, who got second? Also, Craig, you missed it. We had Dan Pizzuda from Sharp Football on the, on the Grueger yesterday, too. Lots of Danny's. Wow. Anyway, okay, let's get to, okay. So I got second. You came in second. I, this is kind of, this guy falls into the category if I refuse to believe he's good, but I'm going to pick Dawson Knox.

He seems to be a different player this year, whatever. I don't know if he is. He's for Buffalo, yes, he's running a lot more routes. You know, 78% of the routes he ran week four. He's catching a lot of touchdowns. He doesn't have a lot of yards, which is like, makes me dubious for this, but again, tight end his week. There was other guys I considered like CJ Usoma.

But I'm going to go with Dawson. Yeah, he went off this week. Zoma won, but like, didn't he catch him? Didn't he basically, like, catch a touchdown by accident? Yeah, but he also is running 76% of routes. So it's like he's doing it too. But I'll go to Dots and Knox. I'll take the gut offense.

I'll take the Josh Allen. He seems to be having a little bit of a bigger role this year. I think, yeah, I think it's between Shultz and Knox, and Shultz is not one and Knox is two. D.K., who, you get the short stick, D.K., who do you want if Shultz and Knox are off the board? Cambrate is another guy if drunk is out again. Oh, my God.

He looked terrible, though. I know. It was raining in his defense, like a lot. That's true. Yeah, I briefly thought about saying Uzoma Because I think before he got injured last year He was on pace to be like a big part of this passing game The only thing that makes me worried about it is like you're talking about a Bengals passing game

That's not throwing very much And you have Jamar Chase T. Higgins and Tyler Boyd in it He's going to be by easily the number four option in a low volume passing offense Also I don't think it's a coincidence that the first two big games Or the big game he had was with T. Higgins out who's going to coming back next week. Yeah. So I,

look, I think he's actually a pretty dynamic player, but I don't think he's going to have the amount of targets to make him like reliable week in and week out. So I guess I'm just going to go with Evan Ingram,

even though he's been pretty quiet the first two games back. But he has six targets in each of the first two games. So, and when you're talking about a position where you're like hoping for three targets from a guy if you're streaming, that's pretty good.

And he's dynamic. He's fast. and dimes is starting to heat up. So this is definitely like sort of diving in crates, if it were. But yeah. There's an odd amount of optimism, though, for these streamers, because Evan Engrom is like an oddly optimistic one. Schultz, Knox, Eczoma, my our standards.

And the last one, again, Tyler Conklin for the Vikings. And also, Zach Ertz, still alive. Still around. Still making Dallas Goddard's life a living hell. Out playing Dallas Goddard. How about our boy, Dosecchi's. Dosec's, Max Williams on the Cardinals. He's the current tight end 12th.

Fun fact. Dude, he has... I'm not acknowledging. He got a touchdown where he got lit up in the end zone and he just hung out of the ball like it was nothing. You can't make me acknowledge Dosekies. I don't know what's going on in Arizona. Heineken guy.

Okay. I don't know what's going on in Arizona. Can I just say this? I had a friend. I was just at a wedding. I had a friend who lives in Phoenix. Ran into D'Andre Hopkins at the grocery store. went up and talked to him.

This was last week. He said he was super nice. They talked for five minutes at the produce section. He was like five minutes? Yeah. He said he was there. Holy cow. He was like just alone shopping, buying a bunch of vegetables.

And he talked to him and this was the week, this was before last week. So when no one knew if he was going to play because of his rib injury. And my buddy asked him, are you going to play? He's like, yeah, I'm going to play. And he was just super nice. How did you not tell us this? Well, I didn't find out until two days ago. So I actually ran into Deandra Hopkins at LAX.

What the hell is going on with that? DeAndre Ha, is he okay? Is he just like, no, really nice? He's so lonely. He's just going to public places, chat with people? Dude, I had such an early flight. I was at LAX at probably five in the morning. And I walk by him at the Hudson News and I'm like, that guy looks like DeAndre Hopkins. I'm like, I think that is DeAndra Hopkins. It's not DeAndre Hopkins. And I'm like, I am flying to Houston.

And so I check his Instagram story and it literally the caption is, on my way to LAX. And I was like, oh my God. And I go back to the Hudson News. And I literally wordlessly, I just do that. Are you? And he's like, yeah, just nods. And that's it? That's the only interaction.

Well, I didn't want to go up to him because it was like a flight of people going to Houston. And like, once you pointed out, you have like 200. And he's like, I don't know. It's like not a good, it's not a restaurant. It's a bad situation for him to kind of like be recognized. But yeah, my buddy was like, hey, I love what you're doing for the community of Phoenix. And he was just like super nice.

And they just chatted. Well, I guess I should have gone up. It was also 5.30 at the morning. Yeah. It's hilarious. Just alone and a whole food's just looking for onions. Wow. Craig, would you agree with me that there's two types of people in the world,

the types that will talk to a celebrity in public and those who would never talk to a celebrity in public? That's a great way to delineate the different types of people because I am not that guy. It depends on the celebrity. No, I'm not talking to anybody. I would never go off to talk to a celebrity. Because I know I wouldn't want to be bothered and how often it must happen is probably so infuriating. If I saw somebody out of wherever in L.A., I'm not going to be like, hey, What's up, Siddakis?

I love you. Everyone here listening knows that since Craig is a celebrity, please don't go up to Craig and bother him. He's too busy to engage with you. That's why I have to go through the email account. He can't be bothered. One day I want to be like at a restaurant and somebody recognizes my voice and goes,

I hate your show. That'd be really funny. Oh my God. All right. Where are we? Okay, we just did tight ends. All right, let's just do streamers real quick. Quarterback.

Can I give you guys a freaking? stat. Please do. Yeah. You want a quarterback streamer. Sam Darnold. Yeah, baby.

Leads the NFL and rushing touchdowns. Let me tell you something about Sam Darnold. First of all, that was also a pretty good appetizer stat, right? Sam Darnold leads the NFL

and rushing touchdowns. Let me tell you something. Sam Darnold's five rushing touchdowns through four weeks are the most for a quarterback on record going back 70 years.

Wow. What? Sam fucking Darnold. Cam Newton never did that? only quarterback on record with five rushing touchdowns through four weeks.

And he has 52 rushing yards. Isn't that bonkers? Did that do to you what you did to me? Like, that blew my gourd. Somebody pointed out to me that Teddy Bridgewater set a record career notch

for rushing touchdowns too under Tom Brady, under Joe Brady. So maybe there's something to it. Oh, interesting. Sam Darnel, currently the quarterback five. So he's a good streamer, obviously. Okay, those will come down. I do actually think that's the reason Chuba Hubbard and McCaffer will get better because obviously Sam

Donald's vultry, everyone. All right, other quarterbacks you need quarterback, Justin Fields, if someone cut him. Taylor Heineke has been good, like way too good for anyone's business. What about Dimes going against Dallas? Danny Dimes against Dallas is on that list for streamers, and then Trey Lance. Tray Lance is the big one because. Trey Lance, he had like 18 points and a half. Here's the deal with Gropolo.

He's running a lot. So Garoppolo has a pole. calf, or it's a calf injury. Seems like it's a pulled calf, but it's a calf injury. He told reporters that he was hoping it would be a couple weeks. Well, if the hope is a couple weeks, it sure seems like Trey Lance is going to start this week. They have a buy after that. So it really is a question of like, you know, is Jimmy G.

going to play in three weeks for now. But like, if not, Trey Lans getting the buy is a good thing for them to add wrinkles to the offense that he can play. But yeah, Traylance is like the clear streamer for the week. And like, I guess my real question is D.K., would you either of Trey Lance or Justin Fields. This week? No, just like you have to make a cut.

Like, you have Fields in your team. Trey Lance is out there. You're probably not going to have both. Man, I wish that there was a tiebreaker based on coach or team, but there really isn't. Because I don't trust Shanahan, and I sure is shit, don't trust Nagy.

I think Trey Lance looked bad despite the numbers, and I think that Trey Lances' fantasy numbers will be better than Justin Fields' But ironically, despite Matt Nagy constantly saying publicly that Andy Dalton's the starter when healthy, I actually think Lance is more likely to go back to the bench if Garoppolo's healthy than Fields as adults healthy. But I also think Garoppolo's always hurt. And it might be a bad worse injury than we think.

I think I lean Lance. I think I do too. Yeah. I just, the bears just seem like a mess to me. So yeah. rest the season and or this next week I go Lance overfield slightly Lance is gonna run more

better support system certainly all right so yeah add Trey Lance last one's Teddy Bridgewater has a concussion and we don't know if he's gonna play this week but the Broncos offense seven points with your luck not great not great Bob

bad for Cortland Sutton we'll see what happens there also real quick I need to know what you guys think about the Vic Fangio calling the Ravens out for running the ball in the last play of the game. Have you seen this, Craig? The context is they had like 42 straight games with 100 plus yards or something like that. They wanted to keep that streak alive, so they ran the ball with like 10 seconds left to get the get over the century mark. They were up.

Three seconds. It was 23 to 7. So they were up 16 points with three seconds left. And they ran. And John Harborough told Lamar to get three yards so they could get 100 yards in the day. I mean, I could care less. I do not fucking care. Well, I do agree with that.

I am also, like, if the option is do it or don't do it, do it. Who gives a shit? Vic Fangio gives a shit. He called it total bullshit in a press conference. The next day. It wasn't even like your emotions are still running on. Win the football game, Vic. How about that?

Vic Fangio, who is in his 60s, went to sleep, woke up, thought about it. Still mad about it. I'm going to go to my press conference hours from now and is still so mad that he was like, that's bullshit. You never hear coaches talk about it. I know that is that's really funny that's that's pretty petty I never really heard I maybe I'm just like living under a rock but I haven't heard that many people that are upset with John Harbaugh but maybe like the Harbaugh brothers just get under people's skin yeah I just

Jim Harbaugh was very rarely get coaches to talk about other coaches like that like a day after they did the thing yeah he was like oh anyway it's just it's this it's all you know get that did uh did did did Vic throw a what's your deal uh uh John Harbaugh, Pete Carroll back in the day. I can't believe you missed this. He said that classic Ravens, that's not the staff operates. I was joking. I was referencing back in the day Pete Carroll when they went to shake hands because

John Hart or Jim Harbaugh at Stanford had like run the score up on USC and they went to shake hands after the game and Pete Carroll asked him, what's your deal? Harbaugh brothers, man. They just piss people off. Dude, that's why people like him now. I will say the, he was like, that's Baltimore's operating. stance. They don't care about player safety. Come on. Just taking a pot shot at the

team. This is like, there's like 60 plays in a game or more. What was Jim Harbaugh's chicken thing? She said, don't eat chicken because it's like a beta bird? What is it? What is he? That was a scary. Chicken's a scared bird. White meat. That is so funny. It's not good for men. That sounds like right up the thing with like where boxers like wouldn't have sex before fights. That sounds like like things you tell you. Yeah, you want to increase your tea. Chikins are scared birds.

Okay. Defenses if you get a stream. Get that T up. If anyone cut the Patriots defense in your league because they were playing the Buccaneers, please go get them because they play the Texans this week. That doesn't need to be explained. Davis Mills had like, I don't know, two completions last week. And then assuming the Patriots are not available, I would have the Vikings defense.

They're going against Detroit. They did not look good early in the season, but they look a lot better. They just hold the Browns, the 14 points. And like the line's offense is not as good as Cleveland. I think the Vikings defense against Detroit is probably your best. streamer bet this week. Yeah, you could also do Vegas against Chicago. Not bad?

Yeah, it's a bet against Fields, but yeah. Other than that. We're doing this before Monday night football, so, you know, take our comments at the radio to do with a grain of salt one way or the other. All right. I need 20 out of Mike Williams to win this week. If it happens, he will probably become my favorite

fantasy player of all time. Yeah, right. Here it is. Over Rashad Penny? Yeah, yes. All right. Have you given up on that, by the way? Yeah.

No, I'm not. Who knows? Why did Alex Collins play so much? Because he's pretty good. I don't actually know exactly why. Because normally Carson was just handling like 90% of the workload or whatever. Maybe they're just trying to get him more involved. And I think Carson had like a hammy or something that was like bugging him a couple of weeks ago.

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