The Ringer NFL Show - Must-Adds for Week 17

Episode Date: December 27, 2021

With championship week upon us, we run through the injuries from Week 16 and offer up our must-add players for Week 17 with our favorite format, Showdown Time. We finish by holding Fantasy Court. RBs... (02:00) WRs (15:00) TEs (27:00) QB Streamers (35:00) DEF Streamers (37:00) Fantasy Court (43:00) Email us at ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Producer: Craig Horlbeck and Mike Wargon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey everybody, this is Warren Sharp, NFL analyst over at Sharp Football Analysis. I want to welcome you to the Ringer Gambling Show. Join me on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays each week during the NFL season with guests Chris Vernon, Ben Solac, and Joe House to guide you through the NFL betting landscape. We'll be talking spreads, game totals, parlays, player props, futures, and much, much more. Be sure to follow the Ringer Gambling Show on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Your fantasy football show. My name is Dana Heifitz.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I am joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlebeck. We are coming to you on Monday afternoon. Monday, if football is not happened yet, otherwise week 16 is done. Hopefully you're in your fantasy football championship. If not, maybe you are crushing your third place dominant quest with all the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Fifth place. Ghosted you last week, helped you this week. Maybe you're just competing to not lose the toilet bowl. I know in my leagues, people have to do a beer mile. If you lose, hopefully my brother has to do that. But whatever you do,
Starting point is 00:01:15 need, we're going to get you all your waivers for week 17. Hopefully that's the last week for your fantasy championship. Are you guys ready? I'm ready. I'm ready. I am very likely pending a disaster on the Monday night football game in the ringer championship. Who are you playing? It's a toss-up between Riley and I forget who he's playing, but that game's really close. Oh, interesting. Probably something with a Danny Kelly name.
Starting point is 00:01:39 It just goes to show you that drafting doesn't matter because I didn't realize we were in a super flex league until like the third round. prep is overrated. That's what we always say here. That's our whole philosophy. That's where we have four, five guests a week. We're going to do showdown time.
Starting point is 00:01:55 We're going to go position by position. We're going to give our favorite pick for that position just for this week, because like this week is the rest of the season. That's it. So there you go. Nice, easy, peasy right there. We're going to start at running back. D.K.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Yo. Who is the number one running back you'd pick up on waivers? To win a fantasy football championship or just to avoid coming in last place? It came down to a couple of different guys for me, but I'm going with Dari, a Gumba Waleigh for the Jaguars. Unfortunately, James Robinson tore his Achilles tendon on Sunday, which is not only bad for the Jags in the short term, but it potentially affects his season next year, too.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Unless he's Cam Acres, which I guess it just doesn't really matter. I guess you can just come back. The Cam Acres thing is kind of crazy. He's already back on the active roster. Now, granted, the Acres thing was partially due to just getting him in a crude season, so he can get closer his pension. He's like physically able to like run and play a little bit. Like there's been videos of him cutting and changing direction.
Starting point is 00:02:48 He looks really good. So maybe there's been advances in the way that they do the surgeries. I don't know. But regardless for now, it's looking like Dari and Gumbawale is going to be the lead guy there. He had 17 carries 57 yards in a touchdown last week. Carlos Hyde is on the injured reserve, I believe. And so that just basically opens things up for him to kind of like dominate that backfield.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And so he would be the guy that I, choose to throw into the flex this week. There's a couple options here, but I think I'd feel the most confident, especially considering who are they playing next week? They're playing New England. That's actually kind of tough. Which is super concerning. Well, New England has actually kind of not been great against running backs,
Starting point is 00:03:29 against rushing yards specifically in the last few weeks. But I went with Dari too. It's, again, it's not great picking a jag going up against a Patriot in championship week. But the other options didn't really excite me nearly as much. I mean, Dari got 19 touches. And other than, there's just a lot of unknowns, right? Like, we can talk about them. There's unknowns with the chiefs and Clyde.
Starting point is 00:03:50 There's unknowns with Philly and Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard. Yeah. The only not, I guess, Rex Burk had, but, you know, David Johnson's maybe coming back. So Dore seems like the safest bet to actually get 15 touches. It's pretty much the only reason why I picked him. Yeah. That's exactly what I was going to say. That's well said. I think the other ones, there's just too many question marks.
Starting point is 00:04:08 I'll go Dari to begrudgingly because as Chris, said, we're recording this Monday afternoon. We don't know a ton right now about Miles Sanders' hand because he heard it in some fashion. We'll see if he actually misses this week. And we don't know a ton about Clyde right now. The x-ray on his Clyde's collarbone is negative.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We'll see about the MRI. I'll begrudgingly say Daray, even though I actually almost like my other person more, which kind of defeats the whole purpose of this exercise. All right. Do you want to do a showdown time then? Let's do the weakest showdown time I've ever done. I already regret taking
Starting point is 00:04:41 Dorei. It's just kind of a bleak Showdown time. Should I just do it? Should I change my mind? Also, this is the hardest name I've ever had to say for Showdown Time. I'm reasonably confident it's Daree Ogunba Walee. Okay. It's the Dari Agumboalee Showdown Time. Craig, did you know that we put in your voice for the show last week? You don't even listen. Yeah, we cut your voice out and we let you say Showdown Time. Yeah, I love that, actually.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Thanks, Mike for doing that. Shuts out Mike. I was a little busy last week, Hyphids. Didn't catch week 15 waivers. Are you spending time with your family over the holidays? Deke and I were out here, like, helping people. Yeah, you're real Christmas heroes for you two. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:25 All right. How are people going to know to Benchamon and St. Brown if it weren't for our help? You know the Santa's in like the New York corners who like stand and jingle their bell and get like people to donate money? That's you too. You guys are really doing the work. The Fantasy Salvation Army. Okay. This is, this question's from Mark.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Mark. So I'm sure you three know how Scorogami works, but for the listeners who don't, an NFL game is a scoreagami. If the final score is the first, is the unique score in NFL history, as in never in NFL history,
Starting point is 00:05:54 has there been a score with that final score ever before, the home team getting a score and the road team getting the other score. So his question is, there has never been a four to three final score in NFL history. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:06:08 What is the next? lowest winning score against the team that lost with three points. So, for example, four to three has never happened. Seven to three obviously has happened. What's the lowest score against a losing team that had three points that's never happened in NFL history? What's the lowest score against the losing team had three points? So what is the next-
Starting point is 00:06:30 The losing team at three. Okay. So this has to be above four. It has to be more than four. But it's the lowest that's ever happened. Yeah. Or you're saying it's never. happened. Never happened.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So it's, okay, it's the lowest score that's never happened above four. Yes. In retrospect, this was a very complicated question. So the question is, has five to three ever happened? Now that I think about it, that's probably, so it's five or six. That's it. No, six to three is happening a million times. So it's five. I feel like he wouldn't have emailed us if it was five. Five's probably happened. Uh, my first thought was like, if it's five, I almost want to wipe this question out, Mark. No offense. I'm going to say
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah, let's assume five It would be a weird question If five was I'm gonna say 11 Yeah I bet 11 to 3 has never happened Now 11's easy though It's like touchdown 2 point
Starting point is 00:07:20 Which is a touchdown I'm gonna go with I don't know You know there's a lot of like 16 definitely has happened 18 I think has happened I don't know I'll say 12
Starting point is 00:07:32 No I'll say 19 I'll say 19 to 3 So you say 19 to 3's never happened. I'm say 11 to 3's never happened. Dika, what about you? I mean, I'm just going to, this is like the Jeopardy stupid answers thing. I'm going with 5 to 3.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Okay. Wow. All right. None of us were even remotely close. The answer is 50. Oh. 50 to 3? Every single score has happened.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's crazy. Five to 49. You know what? Mark deserves an apology from us. Yeah. Literally, we were like, has five happened. And the answer was 5-0-50. That's pretty incredible.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Okay. That's a good question. question mark. So Craig actually wins Dario Gimboale. Nice. Which is good because I kind of didn't want him. Okay. Well, D.K. So you get Dario Gung Mawale. I'm going to get who I really wanted. Go ahead. Yeah. I wanted Jordan Howard for the Eagles. Yeah. He also got banged up. He left with a stinger.
Starting point is 00:08:23 He had a stinger. And here's the thing. No one knows what that means. This is, no, no. Stinger. Not even scientists. Not even scientists. Something hurt real bad. He left. Something you had hurt. You know, it's just like that casual, you know, shooting down your back. Totally normal thing that everyone gets. It's also like, do it. Why don't they call broken bones like a breaker?
Starting point is 00:08:39 or a sprainer. It's like a stinger. This one stings. Fracture. Ooh, it's stings. Like a baseball at the end of the bat. Oh, nothing worse. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Miles Sanders hurt his hand. If he doesn't play, Jordan Howard and the Eagles against Washington, that Washington D imploded. That was awful. It was pretty bad. Yeah. But regardless,
Starting point is 00:09:01 Jordan Howard, when Sanders has been out, has been really good. Even if Sanders plays, if his hands hurt, I feel Jordan Howard's going to rotate in. He was clearly the guy that was rotating in it out with the eagle.
Starting point is 00:09:09 like the most. And then if Howard's hurt, Boston Scott is also like a perfectly serviceable option. If Sanders is out, Howard and Boston Scott will both be good. If Sanders plays, I think Sanders and Jordan Howard will also be pretty good. And then look, if Sanders and Howard are both out,
Starting point is 00:09:25 obviously Boston Scott can again well, but like mostly speaking, I think Jordan Howard will be a perfectly serviceable flex option for this team and also will get like a pretty good amount of goal line work. I agree. I think if, I think if Miles Sanders is out, maybe Jordan Howard and Boston Scott
Starting point is 00:09:39 jumped to the number one option for me. I think it's pretty, I felt like it's pretty probable that Sanders is out of you. He reportedly broke his hand. And this is for a guy that's... The high fits rule, you know. Well, it didn't look bad. He just disappeared. He got a breaker on his hand.
Starting point is 00:09:55 I just really think Jordan Howard is like the definition of like the boring guy that you flex and somehow win your fantasy football championship. Yeah. And if Howard and Miles are out, Boston Scott's definitely the number one waiver. option. So I actually would take him over Dari because Dari at the end of the day, or do you
Starting point is 00:10:10 really want the Jaguars running back? Even if he gets like most of their touches against the Patriots. It's just not going to be a touchdown. That's what you need too. It's such a recipe for disaster. But Howard is just, I mean, he's been so good when the Eagles have played. I've played him. I just think Howard's like this very unsexy, clear, obvious number one
Starting point is 00:10:26 pick this week. All right, D.K., who's your pick? So you guys picked Jordan Howard officially. Did you I'm taking Jordan Howard? Yes. And honestly, I actually think is... Honestly, the only reason I didn't take Howard is because we don't know as of Monday afternoon
Starting point is 00:10:41 whether Sanders is playing, but in reality, I actually think Howard's number one over Dari this week. So if I was setting my waiver priorities here, I would do... I'd probably do... Actually, yeah, I'm almost like starting to change my mind, too, with the Ogunba Walee thing.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But I'll go, Agumbo Wale, Howard, and then I would go Boston Scott. I would just say because I think if Sanders is out, they're still going to be rotating Howard and Scott together. This is one of the best run teams in the NFL, like in terms of their offensive line for the things that they can do with Jalen Hurts going up against Washington next week. So I would choose Boston Scott, I think, as my option here. And he's, you know, roster ship right around where Howard is, 15 and 16 for those two percent.
Starting point is 00:11:22 So and then from there, if I had to do something else, I would do Rex Burkhead for Houston, who, again, there's question marks as to whether David Johnson is going to come back next week. but Burkhead has been like the lead guy there. His carries in the last six games, 22, 16, 11, 8, 12, 18. So, like, he's getting good volume. Obviously, this offense isn't necessarily something to write home about, but Davis Mills has been playing better.
Starting point is 00:11:47 They've been, like, surprisingly competent over the last month or so. Yeah. My only concern with Rex Burkett is, like, he's been getting a lot of touches for a couple months now, done nothing with them. Last week, this week, he's the RB3 against the Jets,
Starting point is 00:12:01 like crushes it. This is against the Chargers. Or sorry, right. What am I talking about? Which is also a very bad run team. But yeah, sorry. It's one of the worst run-D teams. I guess my question is like, is Rex Burkhead going to do that? Now they're playing in San Francisco, which is quite a bit more difficult. This is why he'd be down the list for me.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Like, obviously, he's number four on this list for me. However, I still think if you're desperate for a flex, if you have situations where COVID is, you know, potentially taking out some of your big name players for this week, he could be an option. I think you can bank on at least like a six or seven point floor. Like it's not going to get you a zero kind of deal. And then obviously we saw it last week. Like he has it in him to go off. He had 28 points.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So that would probably be like the order that I put these in. And then like you could throw in a couple other guys. Derek Gore for Kansas City. If Clyde-Rood-Larer misses another game, like he'll get some run. He had 12 carries this past week. Craig Reynolds is still getting a good amount of volume at 11 carries this week for Detroit. Jamal Williams, I think, kind of came back and took over the leadback role, but Reynolds was in there. He got a little bit of work in the passing game.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He had four targets, three catches, 22 yards. You would add Craig's? I actually think Craig Reynolds is kind of dropable. Okay. So why? Didn't Jamal Williams get like 17 carries this week? I mean, we're talking like, this is like my sixth or seventh option here. I'm just saying these are some players that you could potentially add.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I guess here's my other question. He had 15 touches. That's good. guess it depends if D'Angre Swift comes back because there's a chance to get Swift comes back this week. Yeah. My, in the Craig Reynolds bucket,
Starting point is 00:13:37 so basically we're saying Jordan Howard, probably number one or Dare, Jordan Howard Daree Boston Scott or like that top tier. And then as you said, Rex Burke had in that probably the tier below. Derek Gore for the chiefs. First of all, obviously Dorell Williams is probably head of all these guys if Clyde doesn't play.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We're not counting him for this because he's mostly rostered. But Dorel Williams, if he's available for whatever reason for the Chiefs and Clyde misses this game, Dorele Williams is easily number one. But even then, Derek Gore for the Chiefs could get enough work and has looked pretty good, even though we all thought he was the son of Frank Gore for a while for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:14:06 The other guy I want to throw out there for you guys. Wait, can I guess? Yes. Kashan Vaughn? Yes. Kishon. Kishon. Shon Vaughn, who stole a 50-yard run
Starting point is 00:14:18 from Ronald Jones this week for the Bucks. The Bucks are playing the Jets. The Jets Rundee is awful. It's so bad that I actually think it's totally possible that Ronald Jones in Kishon Vaughn could both be worth playing. Ronald Jones is like a must play against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I actually think it's such a must play that Kishon Vaughn just in like the lesser half of a timeshare could also totally steal a touchdown and be flexible. And I'd almost rather him than some of these other options. Certainly something to consider. Yeah, he had, he didn't do anything in the passing game, which is, you know, not crazy surprising. But yeah, I think like he's another good sort of desperation flex option guy,
Starting point is 00:14:58 especially going against Jets. That's real desperation. Really, if you know, 14 team league, it depends on what happens with COVID this week. And then also, honestly, Devante Booker for the Giants who's just better than Sequin,
Starting point is 00:15:07 which is really sad to say. But like, I'm sad again. But now we're in real desperation time. In reality, we're talking about Dare, Jordan Howard and Boston Scott are the guys you want. I actually think Derek Warren Burk had are right there. That's like the top five. And then everyone else is like dart throws.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Are you guys one of your receivers? Yeah, let's do it. All right. I think we all have the same person. Does everyone have Isaiah McKenzie for the bills is their number one? Yeah, indeed. Okay, so this isn't complicated.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Gabe Davis last week had two touchdowns and 85 yards and we're like, pick up Gabe Davis, Gabe Davis got COVID, Cole Beasley got COVID. They're not vaccinated. They missed this week. Isaiah McKenzie has like 100 plus yards and two touchdowns. He's incredible. And Cole and Gabe Dave being unvaccinated means they are unlikely to play this week or even if they do, they'll miss a lot of practice.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Like Isaiah McKenzie is the number two receiver for the Buffalo Bills. He's obviously the number one guy. One of the past happiest teams in the NFL. Plus, by the way, they face. the Falcons this week. So that's a good match up. This showdown time is like, this whole episode is like the Joey Pants
Starting point is 00:16:08 Award. We're like, I mean, we got Dari, Agumbo Wallet and now Isaiah McKenzie. Like this is as random as it's gotten. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I like McKenzie, though. He's fast. He's got some juice. I have been saving this question until Craig comes back. Yeah. Okay, hold on.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I got to do it. All right. I'm excited for this. We're really getting down to the wire here on showdown time. So we don't have many left. So people really got to sink. Soke these in.
Starting point is 00:16:31 All right. It is the Isaiah McKenzie showdown time. People, someone made a comment that I laugh at every single time Craig does it. It's because he gets really into it and he like shakes his arms and stuff. It's just makes me happy. I'm like a wacky, inflatable armed tube man. You are you. That's how you dance. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Hyvetitis. This is from Evan. Evan. Evan. Evan. In honor of, thank you, Lorne. Lauren. On December 11th, Billy Elish hosted S&L and was the musical guest.
Starting point is 00:17:10 How many times has that happened? How many times has someone pulled off double duty on SNL? Oh, there's been a decent amount. You know, people like, I think Bieber's done it. Like Adele has done it. Miley Cyrus has probably done it. But it's like going back in the day, I don't know. It's like, did like Bruce Springsteen do it?
Starting point is 00:17:27 I have no idea. I feel like this question is. is that like slanted towards Craig. Like this is a little bit of a biased question. I'm actually going to give a really boring answer. I'm going to say, how many years of snow has there been? 50? No, like 46.
Starting point is 00:17:41 46. I'm literally going to say it happens once a season. So I'm going to say 46. That's a good guess. I'm going to do a little less than that because I don't think it was happening a lot in the beginning. I don't think they thought of it until later. So I'm going to go with like 22. Do you guys remember when we were supposed to guess how many, what was it?
Starting point is 00:17:58 How many episodes are been or something like that? How many guests or how many staff members have been on the actual show? And I guess like several thousand above what the answer was. Yeah, I didn't remember that one. I'm going to just go really high again. And I'm going to say 100. There's no way. Twice a season?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Okay. The answer is 42. Look at me. Is that what you guess exactly? No, I guess 46. Oh, 46. I just guess one of the season. Wow.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Nicely done. Cool. All right. I get Isaiah McKenzie. And you guys have to fight for scraps. So I'm second. Is that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. What did you guess? Definitely. I said 22 and DK said 100. Yeah. All right. Not great at math, but I think that Craig wins second.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I think I'm going to go with Alan Lazard. Oh. Okay. If MVS is out, I'm operating under the assumption that MVS is going to be out still with COVID. I'm going to go to Lazard. They're playing the Vikings.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And Lazard is like the surefire number two option in Green Bay. He ran a route on 94% of passes last week. Caught Rogers his record breaking touchdown. I mean, Lazard, just like a good, solid option, fantasy championship week. Like, I don't want to screw around. I think Lazard's a safe bet for five, six, seven targets.
Starting point is 00:19:14 And you have maybe the MVP thrown to him. So I'm going to go with Lazard. I like that one. How do you feel, what if MVS comes back in place? Then no. Then I would pivot to another person, which I can give you, which is a hot take. Give us the hot take.
Starting point is 00:19:27 It's Cadarius, Tony. I had him on my list I like it He's on my list too But I don't know if I can trust him In my fantasy championship It's hard with Mike Glennon But they're playing the Bears
Starting point is 00:19:37 He had nine targets on 28 routes Tony Tony's really fucking good Tony especially in PBR Yeah Yes I not that Mike Glennon is literally He's the opposite of Aaron Rogers
Starting point is 00:19:48 But that's why I have Luzard first Go with the quarterback What about Josh Palmer For the Chargers Yeah I just have no idea If Mike Williams or Guyton Are going to be back So, Mike Williams is unvaccinated.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, he's not going to play this. So Mike Williams is probably missing this game. Probably. It's 10 days, right? He's like the minimum. It's 10 days. So he theoretically could, but yeah, you don't know. No, I don't think he can because he actually came back.
Starting point is 00:20:10 He was an late, a late ad to the list, right? I thought he was midweek last week, no? I read that he's out next week, too, but I didn't verify that. So he's not playing. Oh, all right. Well, then. So Josh Palmer, I think, is another, like, good option for next week. they are playing Denver, which is not great.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It's not a great matchup. However, Palmer kind of filled in nicely, you know, with Williams guy now. He had five catches, 43 yards and a touchdown. He's a good route runner. And I think Herbert trusts him. He's got good hands. It's just all those things combined. I think he's just like a solid, like, he'll, he's not a ceiling guy.
Starting point is 00:20:48 He's not going to explode for a bunch of points. But he gives you a solid floor. The other guy that I think I actually would have a little higher than him is KJ. Osborne for the vice. Vikings. Adam Thieland reagravated his high ankle sprain in this last game, and I would imagine he's not going to make it back in time for this next game. He went back in the game, though.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Did he? Oh, yeah, he did. It was weird. It looked really bad, and he went back in. I think he was struggling with it all game. I don't know if you guys watched. He was, like, cussing on the sidelines every other series because he was so mad. You never know if it's like adrenaline or whatever, you know, shots they get him before.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like, you don't really know how bad it is to, like, you know, some of those things wear off. I had Josh Palmer though right after Cadarious Tony D.K. I do like Josh Palmer and the random charger guys who always seem to pay off now. So here's the thing. So Lazzard, I think, is a really good pick if MvS is out. Palmer, I like a lot because Mike Williams is not going to play. I just am a little concerned still about having a rookie,
Starting point is 00:21:43 even though I do like Palmer a lot. Tony is like the opposite of like he's going to get a lot of targets. But this, again, as D.K. always says, the Giants don't score touchdowns. Yeah. They just don't. I mean, they basically, they're like, like for the last five games,
Starting point is 00:21:55 they basically don't have a touchdown. I'm not really counting the garbage one they had against this week when they were down 30 points. I mean, the other one I want to throw out here is Rashad Bateman for the Ravens, who always plays well when Sammy Watkins is not playing. And Rashad Bateman now is kind of back to being a starter.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Again, there's a theme here, Palmer, Tony, Bateman. These are all rookies who have odd roles, and it's really hard to trust them, especially when their quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:22:19 are in weird situations like with the Giants and quarterbacks in weird situations, like whatever the hell is going with the Ravens. If Lamar comes back, and Sammy Watkins doesn't really play. I think Rashad Bateman is actually in a crazy way
Starting point is 00:22:30 that the most trustworthy of these guys, if Thielen doesn't play KG Osborne's in that bucket too for me. I didn't realize that Thielen had come back in, man. That's crazy because he looked like he was just pissed.
Starting point is 00:22:42 He was like swearing. They took away his helmet for a little while there. I would just be worried about him like, yeah, I think it's probably more like an adrenaline thing like you go back in and then like the next day
Starting point is 00:22:53 you're like, Probably shouldn't have done that. Yeah, it's like the size of a balloon the next morning. Yeah. So with all of these, I feel like, you know, wait until late Tuesday night to make these claims, read everything about all these guys, and then make your decision. But just prioritizing your head who you think would be the, you know, these are essentially all based on, other than I guess, KJ. Ozmen,
Starting point is 00:23:15 these are kind of all based on COVID. Well, that's the other thing. Realistically, like, we're all, like, if we, these are all interchangeable, right? at the end of the day, it's about targets and volume and opportunity and like the randomness of whether they get a touch
Starting point is 00:23:26 them or not. There's no Thursday football this week. There's no Saturday football this week. All these games are on Sunday. Every NFL games on Sunday this week. I think waivers should be pushed
Starting point is 00:23:34 during these COVID times to like Friday. Well, regardless though, that's kind of the point. Like, again, you're going to give me shit. But like, if you want to rot your brain
Starting point is 00:23:42 and ruin your relationships with your family, if there's ever a week to have the Adam Schaeftor push notifications on, go to Twitter, you ruin your brain, hit the little bell,
Starting point is 00:23:51 send them push notes, all tweets, push notifications, between Wednesday morning and Sunday, you can just hit the ad button and get any player, like, like, you know, if Keenan Allen, you know, well, I guess he's already been on the list, but whatever, like, like, randomly, you can just get some number three guy, like a Josh Palmer and they're just number one for this week. Like, you can just get that guy, like, it's worth keeping monitoring all these things because Rashad Bateman, Tony, Osborne, all these guys are kind of similar. Do you guys want to get, do you guys want to do a consensus, this ranking of the really questionable tier here,
Starting point is 00:24:23 just like give people something to work off of here? Yeah, I think the point is that Isaiah McKenzie's his own tier, though. Well, yeah, Isaiah McKenzie is the clear, like, I would plug him into my lineup immediately because we know that Davis and Beasley are going to be out again next week, and it's a good matchup for him, and he did really, really well in an offense with Josh out, like all the stuff matches up.
Starting point is 00:24:41 I'm comfortable starting McKenzie from there. And after that, they're all COVID-dependent. So it's like, if we assume that the guys who might be coming back from COVID, will not make it back. Like the MVS and the Mike Williams, how do we want to make the rest of these rankings? We want to do Alan Lazard and Palmer as the next two? KJ.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I think Lazard. I think Lazard is a good one here because I do believe MVS is probably going to miss this next game here. Again, you're with Roger. Like, it's a good quarterback situation. Accuracies there. He's been a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Yeah. If you're in full PPR, I understand playing Kedaras, Tony. because my fear is the bear's defense just wipes the giants off the floor. But he probably will get a lot of screens. And again, he did have eight targets, as Craig said, and really less than half the snaps
Starting point is 00:25:28 because he was coming back from his quad injury. If he goes from... Other than Isaiah McKenzie, sorry to cut you off, Tony might actually get the most targets out of anybody on this list. That's the thing. And in full PPR, I don't think he dares Tony is going to have 120 yards
Starting point is 00:25:41 and two Dutch tons in this game. Like, it's not like Isaiah McKenzie upside. I do think it's totally possibly he has like nine catches, though. for like 60 yards. That's like 12 points. Totally. I agree. So in full PPR, I actually can see a World War Tony.
Starting point is 00:25:55 But again, you're going to be rooting for Mike Leonard or Jake Fromm on your fantasy championship weekend. Do you want to do that to yourself? So we got McKenzie Tier 1. We've got Lazard Tony Tier 2. And then I'd probably say like Osborne Palmer from there. Who else do we got? No, I want to know right now I wouldn't take Lizard 2.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Because I want to know if MVS comes back. If MVS comes back, you're playing whack-a-mole with those two. And I don't want to play whack-a-mole. I want to take the guy who has less competition, quite frankly. I think the main takeaway here is, like, McKenzie is the guy. It is. But again, the lesson we can learn there is what happened. Emmanuel Sanders left the bills lineup.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Gabe Davis stepped in. Gabe Davis had a big game. Gabe Davis left. Isaiah McKenzie stepped in, and he's doing great. Like, it's not always that simple where a receiver just steps in a role and you want that. I do think Lazard and MVS pull from each other stuff. I just want of Lazar, Josh Palmer, Tony Bateman,
Starting point is 00:26:47 I want the guy who's other guy isn't there. If Thielen isn't there in Minnesota, I want Osborne. If Sammy Watkins isn't there in Baltimore, I want Bateman, Tony's Tony. If Mike Williams and Jalen Guyton,
Starting point is 00:26:57 I don't know that Jalen Giton's deal. If Jalen Gaiton is also not in L.A., I want Josh Palmer. And honestly, I'm willing to wait out the week and see what happens. All right, cool. Okay. Tight end.
Starting point is 00:27:09 This is rough out here on the tight end. Who's your number one, D.K.? So you guys can veto this if you want because Gerald Everett had 42% roster ship and that's like just a little bit above where we go typically. But I would say he would be out there on a lot of waiver wires. He'd be my number one choice if we're going to allow that. No, he's my number one too. I didn't know. I didn't add him in because he was too high.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I was a fraction of that in ESPN. I adhere to the 40% rule. Yeah. Well, no, he's a fraction of that on ESPN. I know. Which I'll admit is definitely less active than Yahoo. I think that's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:41 If either of the leagues has somebody over 40, I don't go with them. Either of the platforms. Okay. Well, if Everett is out there, if Everett's out there, I think he's been developing into one of Wilson's favorite targets for a number of reasons.
Starting point is 00:27:56 But, you know, he's the type of guy that I think you're going to get like four or five looks a game for this guy. He's good after the catch. They used him in the red zone. I mean, you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to a tight end right now, but I think he's a pretty good. option right now to plug it in flex. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like, if you just ignore that game where it was like the worst game of his career, we had like the two or three turnovers at the goal line. He just gets a lot of goal line looks. Russ looks better. Like, Russ just looks to him at the goal line. He just is a good player and is kind of what you said he would be before the season. It just took like two months, three months. But he's great.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I misspoke. I said flex. I would start him as a tight end streamer if you need it. I probably wouldn't flexing. He's a good prayer. If he's there in your waiver wire, I would go with Heverin as well. So that's perfectly fine. Okay, so we'll do a Showdown time
Starting point is 00:28:43 and then we get to these other Tedin streamers. And Craig, you can get to who you got there. You want to see these other Titan streamers first so that we can just get this taste out of our mouths? Sure. So my next one was Cole Commet again. Yeah. We should give an award for who's been mentioned
Starting point is 00:28:55 the most on Showdown Time, which means that the guy's never actually getting picked up, but we keep recommending them. People are not listening to us. Someone called the tight end streaming should be called buffering. Right. And like that's cool commit for show that just doesn't load. It's, we've mentioned him,
Starting point is 00:29:10 honestly probably like 60% of these episodes. But once again, Commet, Fields, I think will be back. He's been fine. Five targets a game, whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And then after that, Mo Ali Cox is somebody who's like, I guess, a bear now. I also had Moley Cox as my number two actually over Cole Commet because unlike Commet,
Starting point is 00:29:30 I think Moly Cox, it's within his range of outcomes to get two touchdowns. My fear, the reason I like commit more as against the Giants is like, I just know that the bears are going to throw the ball,
Starting point is 00:29:40 like 20 to 30 times. The Colts, like, I don't know. Carson Wins could throw them about 12 times. No, here's why. Here's why. Jack Doyle is hurt for the cults. My guy, Jack Doyle, one of the three not athletic tight ends in the end.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But he's a great blocker. If Jack Doyle misses this game, Frank Reich loves tight ends. Frank Reich loves tight ends. Like Dallas Goddard. I'm sorry, Dallas Goddardt. Zach Hertz was the number one receiver, really, for the Eagles when Frank Wright
Starting point is 00:30:02 was the coordinator for the Eagles, like he just loves tight ends. If Jack Doyle is out and Moley Cox, when Doyle went out of the game on Christmas Day, yeah, it's Christmas Day. Mawley Cox ran a route on like three out of every four passes for the, for the Colts. That's really high. If Jack Doyle misses this game, I actually think Moly Cox, I would prefer over everyone except
Starting point is 00:30:22 Gerald Everett because I do think that you have to be aggressive. And like Moali Cox is more likely than Col Komet to give you a straight goose egg. But Moly Cox really can catch two touchdowns for 40 yards. Like he's, he's a basketball player for VCU. VCU didn't even have a football team. he's just a basketball player and he's actually the basketball player tight end that everyone thinks in theory works
Starting point is 00:30:48 but he's like to go up and get it jump ball guy I just he's the kind of guy I'd rather be aggressive if every tight end is like a touchdown dart throw I want to throw my darts to Molycox in the end zone yeah I mean it's just risk reward I mean I do agree you're like oh he runs around and three out of four passes well that might be 12 routes
Starting point is 00:31:04 in the entire game if if you know Went to throw 16 passes which is like pretty standard for the Colts these past few weeks. So it's really like, do you want seven points, then get commit? Maybe you get 18. You could start Molly Cox, but you could also get zero. I'm just looking at commit his targets over the last like two months, essentially,
Starting point is 00:31:25 like five, nine, five, seven, eleven. There was one really bad game against Baltimore. We had two and then eight, six, six, five. Yeah. Like he's getting targeted quite a bit in this offense. And obviously, he's reliable. He's playing Cheerios. And they're playing the Giants.
Starting point is 00:31:38 The Giants suck. Yeah. And also there's going to be the whole Justin Fields takes it personally because the Giants trade out of the pick, blah, blah, blah, but like, giants are bad. That's the point. So, I mean, Komett is, it's solid.
Starting point is 00:31:49 All those are solid. Kemet, Mollett, Mollett, Mollett Coxthrell. You want a real sleeper? Yeah. You're going to say Shaughnessy? No, I was going to say Brevin Jordan for the Texans. Whoa. He's come on strong over the last month, you guys.
Starting point is 00:32:01 I'm just pulling about. How many names do you? Not as a theoretical sleeper. As someone that you actually would play in your lineup for the fantasy championship on the line, how far down the list is Brevin Jordan? I would have him behind Kmet, for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:17 I think I would rather play Jordan than Moe Alley Cox personally. Wow. I'm trying to pull up his numbers here. For the record, I only think you should play Molly Cox if Jack Dewe and misses this game. Yeah, he had knee and ankle injuries. I feel like, I don't know, he have no idea.
Starting point is 00:32:32 But, I mean, Moley Cox, let's not, and he had two catches. But you're right, hyphids. He does have that kind of red zone allure to him much more than another guy. Okay. So you're going. It's the showdown time.
Starting point is 00:32:44 All right. It's the Gerald Everett. D.K., get ready. Showdown time, Seattle, baby. God. You can't get me excited about Seattle anymore. Do you guys realize they lost to the Bears yesterday? I wonder which team has had the most showdown time players.
Starting point is 00:32:59 It's like Seattle has Rashad Penny. We've done. Alex Collins, Gerald Everett. Decent amount. It's probably the Bears, honestly. Well, no, it's funny. I don't know. We can look that up.
Starting point is 00:33:10 Yeah. I feel like it's the Cardinals. I feel like we've done Christian Kirk. Kirk, Rondale, G. The Seahawks beat the Bears. That really messed up the Giants drafts. No, the Bears being the Seahawks. Yeah, sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:21 The Bears beating the Seahawks really messed up the Giants having the Bears pick thing. Oh, yeah. Sorry about that. Which is annoying. I wish my team would have done better for you. Okay. This is from Jake.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Jake. Jake. Jake. How many college football teams are there at all levels? so D1, D2, D3, N-A-I-A, N-C-J, like J-C-J, like J-C-O, like all the levels of college football, subdivision, everything. Oh, that's a great question. I feel like I've read this before. It is an honest.
Starting point is 00:33:49 I've actually never thought about it before. I'll just try not to think about it too much. I think I... Wait, wait. I feel like I read this before. Let's all say at the same time. How many Juko teams are there? I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:02 All right. I have a loose guess. I have a ballpark number in my head. I have, I'm going to say 800. I was going to say 600. I'm saying 300. 300 is low. Aren't there?
Starting point is 00:34:14 How much are there in the FBS? Aren't there almost 200 in the FBS or no? I mean, D1's 130. D1 is 130? Isn't it? Because D1 for basketball is like 3.30, but I think FCS is, sorry, the FBS is 130. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:30 The answer is 893. Oh. So, okay, that includes like, yeah, definitely. it was low on that one. There's 129 in Division 1 FBS. Yeah. Okay. 893.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I get, who did I want? Gerald Everett. Okay. I will take a Colquemette at two. D.K. now actually has to pick between Moe Alley Cox and Brevin Jordan. So Brevin Jordan targets four, seven, four, three, three, and he's scored two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Would you rather him? He's very good. He's very athletic. Just because the Bengals are passing so much as getting on it? The Bengals aren't. passing that much. They had a good game. They 500. Yeah, okay. I'm dead serious, though. Like, look at the week
Starting point is 00:35:13 before that. Would you have said this last week? The Bengals threw it 22 times a week before that, 34 the week before that. Like, this is just a hot week because Baltimore is a shitty secondary. They're playing the Chiefs. I don't know. I'm letting a ride on Brevin-Jordan here. I feel like Usoma versus Dan Sorensen isn't great. True. So who are you taking?
Starting point is 00:35:31 I'm taking Brevin Jordan. Wow. Who are you Zoma? Risk doesn't matter. It's all dark throws. He's looked pretty good, man. look pretty good. All right. Let's get to honestly the most important part.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Streaming quarterbacks and defenses. The quarterbacks we can get a breeze through because I don't think you're really, I think the short answer is probably are not streaming a quarterback this week. If you've made it this far,
Starting point is 00:35:51 roll with who you got. Having said that if you need to, for whatever reason, COVID or you really got there with a shitty guy. Jimmy G. versus Houston. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's not sexy. That's PFS number one QB matchup of the week. And the number two one is Fields. Yes. Fields versus the Giants. I think that that's like a really high, high upside one because obviously
Starting point is 00:36:10 Fields is volatile. tile, but man, the Giants are bad. I do think that is real, like that he'll try to, like, revenge. Like, just like, Burrow took this Ravens thing personally. Yeah. The only reason I like, I would take Jimmy over Fields is I just, Jimmy, once again, when you're in the fantasy championship,
Starting point is 00:36:25 you want stability, and Jimmy will probably get you 15 points. Fields, there's the risk that, like, he gets you four, and you can't have that. Exactly. It's just Jimmy is probably not going to ghost you. Fields could. Yeah. So those are the two. But mostly, honestly, you're probably not streaming anyone. You probably have someone. About Tassum versus Carolina.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah, he's like 40-something percent rostered and he's COVID, yeah. Taysom is COVID. I mean, is Taysen vaccinated? Good question. Do not know. I don't believe, I don't know if Tatea's vaccinated. I'll put it that way. And he tested positive four days ago, so that would be right on the mark.
Starting point is 00:37:01 So that the very least, probably not practicing a ton for Taysam Hill this week. So that's like a really tough. I would have put it this way. I wouldn't plan like Tason Hill's playing. but certainly don't cut him if you have them. Which leads me to recommend perhaps Carolina facing Ian Book in New Orleans next week.
Starting point is 00:37:18 We're recording this on Monday before Saints Dolphins, but I kind of think it doesn't matter which Saints quarterback plays, honestly. Panthers D is solid. And either way, Tazin Mill's not going to practice all week, or it's Ian Book. I like Carolina versus New Orleans. They're 22% rostered.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I mean, Chicago against the Giants, man, against Glennon. I think that's number one. Yeah. I think Barry. But the point is, the point is, honestly, Panthers or Saints,
Starting point is 00:37:45 Bears or Giants is the same principle. I want, unless you can literally get Patriots versus Jaguars, and you know, you're in one of the 10% of leagues where someone's cut them because they played the bills this week.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Unless you get Patriots Jaguars, I want a good defense against one of the three worst quarterbacks in the NFL. Like, I want one of those backup guys who's going to make a freaking, like multiple mistakes.
Starting point is 00:38:09 A freaking. Jake Fromm and Glennon are going to make multiple mistakes against the Bears. Ian Book or a Tassam Hill, like Taysam Hill got picked by the Cowboys in three consecutive drives. Tassum Hill is a turnover machine. Ian Book, we haven't seen him play yet. I got, he's probably going to be pretty, you know. That's going to be fun to watch. It's going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Whatever you want, if you can get your hands on the Bears defense against the Giants' quarterbacks, the Panthers defense against the Saints quarterbacks, that to me is like a winning recipe. And honestly, those two are very widely available. The Giants, the Bears defense is rostered in like one at a six. leagues. Panthers are like two out of six leagues or really, I guess two out of three. But if you can't get one of those, you could do like the Browns against the Steelers because Ben is
Starting point is 00:38:48 like awful. That's what I was insane as well. You should be able to get one of those three. You should be able to get. And I would go in order. The Bears against the Giants, Panthers against the Saints, and then the Browns against the Steelers. One of those should be available. Yep. I actually might put the Browns
Starting point is 00:39:03 over the Panthers. Just because Ben's awful and Miles Garrett. I don't know. They're all very. very solid options. Yeah, they really are actually, and they're all under 40%. And I want to apologize, well, not in advance. In retrospect, for last week when we were like, the two ones we wanted were
Starting point is 00:39:19 Chargers against the Texans and Eagles against the Giants. And the Eagles crushed it against the Giants and the Chargers did not. The Church had negative points because Davis Mills was solid. And I think that's the lesson that was Davis Mills isn't that bad. Like Davis Mills actually isn't making mistakes. But that's the point. You want quarterbacks to make mistakes. DK., every day, every episode I'm going to ask you,
Starting point is 00:39:36 would you now swap Davis Mills for Zach Wilson? I'm going to ask you every episode until you say yes Would you do it at this point in their careers? Like if I was the Jets? Yes, for free, just quick swap. Oh my God. So full disclosure, I was never like the highest on Zach Wilson. I still probably would stick with Wilson.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Okay. We'll come back next week. There should be a law that you can't actually swap it in the rookie year. Yeah, maybe. I'll keep asking. Okay, wait. So before we leave here, we're not that far end. Well, there's a pretty good fantasy court we got this.
Starting point is 00:40:09 You guys want to do that? Let's do it. So it's where, you know, we don't do power hour anymore. And we've been all these holidays, getting rid of the shark tanks. We haven't a lot of time. Wait, before, Fanisgra,
Starting point is 00:40:18 I also have a quick email, so I want someone to read. Oh, okay. Someone emailed in saying, Clay. Clay. Clay mentioned a few weeks back, we were talking about how,
Starting point is 00:40:26 if you could clone, like, want a player and fill a team with 22 of that player, who would you pick? And we're like, in real life or fantasy? Well, in real, no, like a real NFL game.
Starting point is 00:40:36 If you could have a team only fielded by 22 clones that player, who would you pick? And we all agreed it was Debo. Clay here says that we really disrespected Derek Henry. Yeah, that's fair. More importantly, that's an argument's conversation. More importantly, he
Starting point is 00:40:51 pointed out that last week, or this week, time is diluted to me. We were talking about how we like, or I said, I liked how Naja Harris where, Naji Harris, wears 22, and then couldn't think of another running back who where's 22. And he's like, do you even watch football, bro? Because Derek Henry
Starting point is 00:41:07 wears 22. I am so bad with numbers. I cannot place numbers on players' jerseys. I don't know why. I have trouble with quarterbacks. If you said like what numbers like Derek Carr, I don't think I could tell you. I don't know. Four? Is he four? I don't even know. I don't even know. I'm the same way. I don't really pay attention to that, to be honest. I mean, other than like the people like the Brady's, but I can't, I have no idea. Like, I don't know what number, you know, I don't know. Sam Darrow. The numbers took a step back for me this year with all the players changing numbers. Yeah. Chase Evans wearing two. I know that.
Starting point is 00:41:39 DJ Moore where's number two. He didn't used to, right? That's the extent. That's the extent of my number. Anyway, I apologize to Clay. I apologize to Derek Henry. I should know your number. Derek Henry is a good answer too
Starting point is 00:41:48 because he could play like defensive end. They could rush the passer. He's a good answer. Not play quarter, playing like corner. Wasn't he a quarterback in high school, Derek Henry, or didn't he like play a little bit of quarterback or no? I think he just took the snap and ran forward on every play and average nine yards.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Also, did we actually come to the agreement that Devo Sabo was the answer? I think I was gone for that. I don't really agree with that, I feel like. Who would you pick? I don't know. Not D-G-D-Bow, probably. Who would you rather have to beat 22 D-Bos? I mean, I'd have to think about it, but I don't think I would choose D-Vos.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I think I would pick somebody who had a bit of an arm so they could maybe throw a pass or two. So not Taysome Hill. Correct. Ha, so what I do there. Okay, let's go Fantasy Court. You know what? I think I'd pick just like Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I feel like he could do everything. He's enormous. What? I'd just pick a massive... I'd pick like... Lamar or Dak Prescott. I just pick like some big ass quarterback who's like fast can throw, could probably catch.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Can you imagine a team of 11 Lamars? Like Cam Newton in his prime? I mean, I'd do that. I was actually thinking... Camus is way close to the Lamar. 22 Camas would rock 22 Lamar Jackson's. Yeah, Lamar's too small. Power running. Okay, all right, fantasy court...
Starting point is 00:42:59 I don't know if 22 Lamars could tackle one Cam Newton. He could run away from him. Okay. All right. Fantasy court. This is from Ryan. Ryan. He says, Your Honors, I'm a faithful listener to your podcast and loves the Fantasy Court segment.
Starting point is 00:43:11 We have a critical semifinals issue that cuts at what the spirit of fantasy means to us all. Oh, wow. We have a league member, Eber. Eber. Eber. I'm going to call him Eber. Roger Ebert. Roger Ebert. Who did not move Chase Edmonds out of his IR slot on Saturday when the Cardinals played the Colts. Due to the way the ESPN fantasy app works, which is unlike any other platform I've used, his entire roster became locked the moment the game started. No ads, drops, or lineup changes could be made.
Starting point is 00:43:38 The owner also had Echler, no defense yet, and a slew of other COVID players that needed to be cut and moved out of his lineup Sunday morning. Eber brought this to our attention Sunday morning before the game started and designated Justin Jackson and a defense he'd like to fill in his lineup.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Unfortunately for him, his team was playing our commissioner in the semifinals, and the commissioner was at the Bill's Pats game at Gillette Stadium. So he was rendered useless until the next day. So this mess was tabled until Monday, and Justin Jackson, of course,
Starting point is 00:44:06 went on to be the deciding factor here if the points count, if the Justin Jackson points count, Eber would have won, if not, the commissioner would have won. The commissioner essentially said, it's your job to set your lineup. How do we handle this?
Starting point is 00:44:19 So the ESPN fantasy app locked his entire lineup after. I've seen this happen before. I didn't know that. I saw this happen before. So here's what happens. He continues to say, he says,
Starting point is 00:44:31 no one really knew that our entire lineup would lock with an IRA player plays. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Here's what happens sometimes. It's incredibly annoying. it's exactly what we said. If a guy's activated,
Starting point is 00:44:39 and again, this is an important note. Guys get activated off I.R. Like an hour and a half before game time. And mind you, this was Christmas, Christmas Eve. No, the game was on Christmas itself. So if this guy wasn't looking at his phone or whatever from between three and four, no, the game was at eight,
Starting point is 00:44:59 between like 7 and 8.30 on Christmas Eve, which was the only window to really activate him, for sure, or that this would happen. if he's still on your IR but no longer the Cardinals have designated him, it's like they're punishing you. Saying that you should have to drop somebody because you're rostering an extra player. Which makes sense like during the week. Like when you have an IR person, they're activated and you're like, hey, you have to deal with this.
Starting point is 00:45:22 That makes sense. But if the game is played, they're punishing and you can't do anything. So do you understand? Did I explain that? Sorry, that was terrible. You did? No, I get it. So the point is that the game was played and he was active so now you can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:45:35 but I think this is important to settle. This isn't like a known rule. This isn't a choice. The league, this isn't like a league rule. This is a technicality of the ESPN system. Which kind of doesn't make sense. And with that said,
Starting point is 00:45:53 I actually think this is a clear case. That's not how it should be. I think the manager handled this perfectly and said, hey, this is what I want to do. This isn't really fair. This is what I would do. Before the game, he was on top of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:05 put his lineup decisions in, I think that he should win the matchup. Yeah, Eber goes on to say, he says that he caught the issue before the Sunday games, and this should be resolved via a commissioner lineup adjustment.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And the commissioner says, everyone has the responsibility to set their own lineups. I would argue every commissioner has a responsibility to be there for his counterparts on Sunday mornings. But yes.
Starting point is 00:46:25 This is the spirit of Christmas itself. It's like the commissioner, this is selflessness. This is what being a commissioner is all about. It's stepping outside yourself, and you're like, this is how it would be and no, the guy should win. Like, he should put it this way.
Starting point is 00:46:38 He shouldn't lose because ESPN didn't let him set his lineup. Because, like, Chase Edmonds was activated on Christmas. That's ridiculous. I get they could make the argument. I'm sure the group chat could be like, well, he was lazy, you know, like, oh, he waited until Sunday morning or Saturday night to, like, figure out what he wanted to do. But that's kind of beside the point here. This is the technicality.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It sucks for the commish, but I think you got to change this championship matchup. Iber's in the championship. It does suck. But, like, again, the general point is, if you. are like, I want to make a rot. Like, this is the fundamental problem with this, with what he's been dead. If the idea is,
Starting point is 00:47:12 you should be able to change your lineup, or sorry, you didn't set your lineup. He's trying to change his lineup. He's trying to move this guy off injured reserve. But, like, he can't because the game was played, but why he should be able to move you from IR to your bench, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Like, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's an ESPN fault. It is. Also, like, I agree with that. So I think there alone, we have our agreement like this is a pretty clear-cut case. But also I think the COVID thing is also a extenuating circumstance here that is unique to this year. It's unique to last year and this year, basically.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And it's not something that's forever going to be a part of our lives. I've said this multiple times during fantasy courts. The spirit of fantasy during the time of COVID is that we should try and get people to have optimized lineups, even if it's not always like a perfect situation where they're setting their life. lineups right away. Like obviously in the past, I've said, you know, I have my, in the league I commission, I have players, people say, if this game gets canceled, these are my backup options based you know, blah, blah, blah. Like basically, we're getting backup options. We're trying to do the best we can with like a crazy ass situation where multiple guys are going on COVID every single day,
Starting point is 00:48:23 going on the COVID list. Like the spirit of, I think, fantasy this year should be to accommodate players who are on top of it and just trying to figure out how to get a lineup. based on all these COVID things. And this was also related to like COVID, not just the IRA situation locking his entire lineup. Like he had Echler, a couple other COVID players that needed to be moved or cut out of his lineup on Sunday morning.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Like at the end of the day, commissions should, I think should accommodate players based on the fact that this COVID thing is just chaotic. And, you know, ultimately it just goes against the spirit of like why we're doing this right now, you know? And this is even beyond that. Like this isn't a matter of.
Starting point is 00:49:03 It's Christmas, commission. It's Christmas. But this is beyond COVID. I mean, this is literally like a faulty platform technicality. I want to make sure that Ibra gets in the championship here. This is emails from Ryan. Ryan, let us know what happens here, because we're going to be upset if the commission is in the finals.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I think a new rule we need for fantasy courts, how would you explain this to someone who likes football but doesn't play fantasy football and be like, oh, you had Justin Jackson, why do you have Justin Jackson? and why didn't you make the finals? Well, I couldn't put him in my lineup because I couldn't change it because my guy on IR was activated
Starting point is 00:49:39 but I didn't move in my bench so all of my players were locked and I wasn't able to adjust my lineup. And the guy goes, well, that doesn't make sense. You're like, yeah, it was a glitch, so I lost. Well, it's not a glitch.
Starting point is 00:49:47 It's like the ESPN's weird locking rule. You're like, well, ESPN platform doesn't let you move guy. You're like, well, that's silly. Yeah. You should be able to play who you want to play. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Okay. Good luck, Iber. Fantasycore, case dismissed. Bring in the dance of lobstas. Bring in the dancing lobsters. I wonder if TK'll ever get that joke. Okay. No.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Dog bark. It was a loud corgi telling me to end this podcast. Okay. Loud corgi. Loud corgi. Wow. Okay. Thank you, D.K.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Thank you, Craig. Good luck to Eber, Eber, whatever. I hope you get there. Thank you, Justice. Thank you, Mike Wargon for producing this episode. Yep. Thank you, Lorne. Thank you, Lord.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Thank you, Billy Elish. Oh. Love that guy. Love that. Great band. Hallback. D.K. We're going to play a trivia game right now.
Starting point is 00:50:38 One final showdown time. Oh, shit. Okay. Name a single Billy Elyless song. I can't. Is there a song called I can't? Oh, yeah, I'm sure I would recognize. I don't, look, I'm going to be totally honest.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Like, I don't know the names of songs of some of my favorite bands. Like, I just don't know the names of songs. I actually am the same way. There are definitely songs I can sing most of the words, too, that I couldn't. How popular an artist can we give D.K. Where he can't name a song from me. Can you name a Taylor Swift song? Yes, I'm sure I could.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Well, do it. Now I'm trying to think. You couldn't name a Drake song. You can't name Taylor Swift. I think that's the... Bad Blood. Is that the name of the song? Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:51:19 Okay. Good job. There we did it. There you go. It took me a minute. Took me too long, probably. That's also, that's a funny one to pick. Like, I don't even...
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't know. Someone hasn't been listening to every single album with Nathan Hubbard and... In case you guys... realized I have like absolutely terrible recall when it comes to like bands, songs, the names of albums, the names of artists, anything. I have terrible recall. I feel like I have a pretty good memory with like random other stuff, but music I'm just awful.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I don't know why. It's hard out there. No comment. Probably because you have a child. Yeah. Can you remember his name? I can't remember his name. But do you know any of his song?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Sometimes I can't remember his first. The corgi's like end the show, damn it. All right. The corgi is like, why didn't you? You say red. Anyway, okay. Goodbye, everyone.

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