The Ringer NFL Show - NFL Draft Superlatives: Most Likely to Get a Coach Fired, Steal a Starting Job, and Host ‘SNL’

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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We're going to do a little senioritis. We're going to a little draft yearbook, right, Craig? Yeah. You know, a way to, you know, we're going to be writing hags and hackis and every, every, all of our favorite players yearbooks this year. We're going to go through all the superlatives, you know, class clown, most likely to become president, most likely to drop their phone in the toilet. Oh, just kind of the perfect ways to encapsulate.

draft season, the players we like didn't like, and kind of a fun little way. I love a yearbook, to be honest. I wish there were more yearbooks. I wish there was a yearbook at work every year. I like, I wish there was just, I like a wrap up of my life in a year and a book. I think it's great. Spotify rap, the propaganda goes hard. Craig's like, man, whoever thought that I do, incredible company, great work by them. Who didn't like a yearbook? I feel like the yearbook is so fun. You like see all the photos for a year. This is such a, like, Craig, who's the yearbook? This is such a like, I had friends in high school and I got to do things. I know who did it like the yearbook.

But why wouldn't you like, you could still just like look at what happened at the school that year. It doesn't matter if you're in the photos or not. Yeah, look at all those cool kids I didn't, I didn't get to hang out with. That's sick. No,

I'm kidding. No, I agree like the, I would get my extra curriculum was in there. I get the Science Olympiad pictures and the classic scrimge pictures in there and everything. But there's definitely a demographic of kid that did not like the, did not like the yearbook.

With that said, I agree with your collage tape. Craig, I love a, collage. Look a good, good, you know,

scrapbook, yeah, that's a good time. Did you guys win any superlatives in high school? High fits? I feel like he won one.

Yeah, yeah, I got a few. D.K., best laugh. So he's not going to, he's not going to tell us. Yeah, I got best laugh.

I think I had, I had most likely to be president probably. There's something. I'd buy that. I don't think I was like to be president. You didn't win most likely to be GM?

I, well, I mean, waiting on my chance of both. That's actually, that's a great one we should add, in 20 years, right?

Just my third round linebacker who's a really smart can't move. Oh man, dude, the, the Notre Dame kid. So Muifow, Mousal,

he's a future head coach for sure. Most likely to be Dan Campbell in 2045. You also, wait, Craig, you said Hackus, so we did Hags,

have a good summer. What did, Hackus was the elevation of Hags. Hags is have a good summer or a great summer. Hackus is have a kick-ass summer. Whoa. I don't think anyone liked me enough

No one gave me hackis Also that sounds like that Scottish dish With the intestines what's that Hagis Haggis yeah Super different thing That's what they wrote in your yearbook We didn't do hackis in my day

I don't know Did you have hags DK? We wrote things out in my day People wrote have a good summer Right You're too old for abbreviations Code like all you Like they were abbreviating things

Yeah we were in the world of T9 T9 word texting back then, so we didn't write hags. We wrote words out back in the day. Anyway, should we start. Yeah, we should start. We should start this podcast. Craig, you want to start us off here?

Yeah, well, the first superlative here. Most likely to take someone's hat off in a restaurant. Just a random one. Shout David Tepper. I learned today, yeah, or yesterday, excuse me, that the hat was an Eagles hat. And the guy who owns the restaurant, I think it's called Dillingham's or Dillings or something like that, he's an Eagles fan. So, firstly, Goberts.

I thought the draft couldn't get any better from Philadelphia. It's always Eagles fans. I have to say, I'm a huge David Tepper fan now. I get it now. I see why he took him. No, this does not, this does not like take any of the blame off of him. You don't take another man's hat off. You do if it's an eagle's hat.

No, I agree. Well, if you want to get punched in the face. Yeah, I'm about to say, I think it's even more. Was it a Panthers bar restaurant? Was it Panthers themed or no? It was just a public thing. I think it was just a restaurant in Charlotte, yeah. It's super close to the stadium.

I kind of wonder. What I'm wondering is, did David Tepper, and again, if you don't know what's talking about, he literally walked into a restaurant because they put a sign out front that said, like, hey, David Tepper let the owner and let the coach and GM make the pick? Do you guys think that he drove by it and saw it? Or do you think that someone told him about it and he sought it out, like on Google Maps? Based on everything I know, the latter. Yeah. If you drive by it and see it, you have to turn the vehicle around. That's also like, you know, you're going to get past it at first.

Then you got to turn around, get back into the parking lot, blinker on. to yell at his driver. Yeah. Right. He knows he ain't driving the car. Yeah. I, how many times do you think he's done this?

Just confronted a random, like random normal person. Probably in the hundreds, to be honest, like in the last 10 years. Hundreds. He's just confronting people every day. We've got,

considering we have two videos this year from throwing drinks of people and taking hats, the real number is probably the thousands. I know, right? Like if he gets caught for those two, you got to multiply that by like three or four? I know, at least the amount of times he's just been extremely rude or mean. Okay, so who is a player that fits this category for you guys?

I got one if you don't. Oh, you have one? A player to be an absurd billionaire asshole? No, more just like a shit stirrer, like a someone that's going to be starting fights or whatever on the field, super cocky. I feel like Javon Baker, new Patriots receiver fits this to a T. I mean, he was, okay, so after the, after the draft. So he went in the fourth round. which was about where people expected it, maybe third or fourth round.

He was pissed. He's pissed off for greatness. I love this guy. In all the media interviews afterwards, he was basically just like, took too fucking long, took too long. And then he had a great quote. He was just basically bragging to all the reporters about how good he's going to be this year for the Patriots and how he's going to make everybody regret waiting on him and taking too long draft.

He said, quote, come to the home stadium and bring your popcorn. and that's all I can tell you. Bring your popcorn. I make people in wheelchair stand up. This man's Jesus. Yes. This man is healing. Most likely to be the Messiah.

Yeah. I make people in wheelchair stand up is an incredible thing to say. It's a bar. Do you think he like prepared that? Has he said that before? Was that just like right off the cuff? I don't know. Like David Tepper.

He's probably said it thousands of times. Yeah. He said it so smoothly. I feel like yes, I haven't said that before. The other one he dropped too was he also said he was asked about his mentality lining up and he said the mentality is to kill whoever is on the other side

of me. Yeah. No, he, Javon Baker was very upset. Now, what is the hit rate of I'm mad about how late I went? Wait. I feel like every one per cent every year every year there's at least two or three players. I think a lot of the players who get drafted

you know, round three round four, round five make a comment. And they're like, you know, I was sitting like, I can't believe I was waiting for that long. he came and got me, I'm going to give everything for this team, that's it. But every year there's like one or two guys who like, for a whole, like, they are Monorah St. Brown in it. We're like for the next three years, their personality is like, here's everybody who went ahead of me, you're all idiots.

And besides St. Brown, it's not, I feel like I don't remember anybody else who's really, it's been good for them. But hey, like, it fits the wide receiver mentality, I will say. Like, that, those two things coalesce. I wonder how many players have, you know, watched the Amonara St. Brown videos where he, like, on Green has done it where they list everybody who got drafted ahead of them. And then they try to do it themselves and memorize like the 112 people who went ahead of them,

but couldn't really do it. So kind of could just like give up on that. That's a real sign that if you can even remember the 100 people who went ahead of you, that is such a great start for your career. And if I'm a coach, I'm into that because you put in the work to be agreed. Yeah, you can't just be mad. Yeah, you got to put in the work to be mad. The other one, I love this too because Janusz, when he went second to Washington,

was talking about how he like wrote down. when he was five years old on his wall, a note that said, I will play in the NFL. And then he was like, and then I did it. And I'm like, yeah,

a bunch of people do. I bet that has a remarkably, like small hit right there. There's like millions of people who probably was like, I'll be a pro athlete. And that that didn't fucking happen for you. I would argue that like 50% of all human children

who like sports have written down in a book somewhere, a professional athlete. Some seven-year-old was like, you know, I really enjoy this t-ball thing. But realistically, My ceiling is probably like junior high school. I had a giant picture of Dr. Z on my wall growing up, right?

The Sports World Shrader writer. I wrote down on my notebook. I can't wait to do podcasts. Didn't even know a podcast for yet, but I knew. I'm going to be speaking about the NFL. That's what I'm going for since I've been six. Oh, my God. I'm not going to lie.

I'll never get over there. I make people in wheelchairs stand up. He makes miracles out here, folks. Also, like I'm not going to lie. all these players, honestly all celebrities do like so much work with various people. Like if you, you know, there's all these people like behind concerts and stuff like a lot of cancer survivors and stuff like, dude, he's going to meet like a lot of people in wheelchairs for charitable events.

And there's going to be photos. And it's going to like it's going to be memed. Just walking up like I got you, Steve. Yeah. It's going to be a meme forever. His mouth is right in checks. His body can't cash. Is that what you're saying?

Yeah. Do you think there will be any fans who go to games in? in wheelchairs that will have to buy a wheelchair and attend the game just so when he catches a pass, they can stand up each year. That would be pretty funny. I can see that. Yeah,

I can see that. Is that a crime? I think that's probably a crime. I don't know. I was going to say, yeah, they're going to get fine. Probably should be.

Yeah. All right, we got here most likely to lead the league in rushing next year. Yeah, that was in my yearbook too. Yeah. What do you guys think? I put Rashina Lee,

who we didn't really talk about too much this year. This is a deep cut. I like this. He's a running back out of Marshall. he went into the Ravens in round five. Now, is he likely to lead the league in rushing next year? Absolutely not, right? And the Ravens, they have Derek Henry,

they're getting key in Mitchell back. Absolutely not. Right. What I will say is if you throw the word touchdowns behind rushing, now we're cooking a little bit. They extremely got their Gus Edwards back, right? It's like, like, Gus left. We wanted our short yardage back.

We wanted a guy who was just excellent between the tackles, survives contact. It's super reliable, and that's Ali. Ali is filmed during Marshall. I remember watching Ali in college and being like, oh, this is a good player. I wonder when he comes out. I didn't even know he came out in this class.

There was no hype until like a month ago. And I went back and I watched. This is an NFL back. He's not going to like rip off explosives or anything. But this is like exactly Gus Edwards. Just four yards in a cloud of there. Four yards in a cloud of there. Pick up third and one.

Pick up fourth and one. Pick up touchdown. So Rishina Ali, I promise you, he's going to be a Raven for the next six years. And he's going to be, you guys going to be talking about him in every single fantasy draft in round 18. I'm very happy he landed in Baltimore. Also like Derek Henry. What is he? 30 years old?

Exactly. Yeah. If Henry goes down, now we're having a conversation. Yeah, I think for all of these, for every running back in this class, essentially, like an injury is going to be necessary. So I put Trey Benson or Blake Corum are the two guys that I think. For Benson, he comes in, he's backing up James Connor, who is 29. He's actually managed to stay pretty healthy lately, but he has a history of injuries. And the Cardinals run a lot.

They were actually fourth last year in rushing yards. So Trey Benson, I think, has a good chance. And then Blake Corum, I mean, Kyron Schmal. and he could get hurt. No respect for Kiron Williams. Kiron Williams just comes in. You just said Kiron is small? Yeah. Is that a joke?

Is that a reference? It's like a gold member thing. He's small. Cool. Yeah. Anyway, he's small and could get hurt, potentially. I mean, players get hurt in the NFL, especially when they're small.

You got hurt last year. And yeah, and you know what? Sean McVeigh likes to absolutely give massive workloads to his starting running back. And so Blake Corum, if Kiron goes down, has a strong chance, I feel like, to do that. The Rams ran. the ball 28 times a game last year.

Bong and a blitz. Smok it a pancake. Smoking a pancake. I love the fact that the Rams got Blake Corum in round three, which is just a classic example of like, oh, like, you know, Kyron Williams, like this style really works for us, this short, you know, kind of a really short thick back

who's like got quickness to him. But then when you go and you go get another one, you get him in round three. It beats the whole point of Kyron Williams. You got him as an undrafted free agent, right? It's like, oh, we really like this, this mold. Let's spend a top of a hundred pick on it. No, the whole point is that you can get.

Get it later. I like, the Rams, corn picks me was weird. I don't get it at all. If Kyron goes down, they got great insurance, but overall,

like, the Rams, they have to pick a running back every year. It's in their contract. Are they, are they going to start doing like a committee thing? Because if they do that, stinks.

I love the car. I think what happened was Kyron got hurt and they were like, oh man, we're out of running backs. Like, they just ran out of people because they had, um, they cite,

Darren Henderson. Yeah. Ronnie Rivers, yeah. Yeah, but then Ronnie Rivers got hurt too. They were literally out of people. Like,

they tried to get Kmakers back. Out of people. Daryl Henderson was retired. Like he literally was out of the league, basically. Didn't McVeigh say like he was like, we like, kind of like body type so much that we went out and drafted like another Kyron Williams?

I don't know if he said it or not, but their body types and their play styles are extremely similar. Do you think this, do you think this should hurt Kyron Williams like value this year? Like let's say his fantasy value. How could it not? Yes. How could it not hurt?

They drafted it. The fact that they're spending 83 overall indicates that yes, they're going to split time. I'll believe in when I see it with McVeigh and the Rams. I know, that's the thing. I remember when Todd Gurley won offensive player of the year and a year later, they were like, you know, CJ Anderson is our back for the playoffs. Like this team has a dedication to riding the hot hand at running back

or changing their philosophy at running back. That makes them really hard to predict. And also the Shanahan guys, I think that's something I want to do a better job of this year for fantasy is like they all have like deep control issues with who gets the ball. And until they prove it's trust issues. Yeah. Yeah, the trust issues for the Shanahan McVegger. guys of Shannon in particular is just like if he doesn't like believe in you yet you just don't

play but then what like if you cross that threshold or not there's such a stark difference in who has it or not but Corm will get it. I bet I bet Shanahan and McBaebigh both both guys that won't let anyone else drive. Yes, they got to be the ones driving. They're probably the worst passengers in the world like John McPay and Shanahan is just like yeah all right so the dog I just the Dolphins getting for rushing I mean the Dolphins first let all teams the NFL last year and rushing yards from their running backs. We already had Devon A. Chan. And now they got Jalen Wright, who is like, it is the all-time go-home to your wife backfield.

Like, this is Jaylon Wright. Like, shout out Tyler Brooke who called this. But like, Jalen Wright is the go home to your wife running back. And he went to Miami. And he just, D.K., you literally compared him to Rehomaster in the draft guide. Yeah. And now he gets to be the long-term replacement. What's the go home to your wife, orphans?

You know, it's, it's, I understand, no, I understand what it means to say, like, hey, go home to your wife. I don't get how that works, that applies to Miami situation. It's like, Don Drake. in like Mad Men or whatever, like looking at his secretary. And it's like you're looking at these like really toolsy players. So you're looking at these like really fast. Flashy players. Yeah.

Like it's when they went to draft Jalen Wright. It's you shouldn't go home to your wife. But then they didn't. They drafted Jalen Wright anyway. Yes. It's kind of like Blake Corum is the wife. And they traded right is the secretary. They traded a future third to go get him.

And then even if it's like, you know, it would be like, oh, if you're in a fantasy drafts and you're looking at Devon A. Chan or like Kyrn Williams, it's like, man, Devon A. Chan, ready to risk it all. Ready to risk it all. It's like, go home to your wife and just draft Eric Henry kind of thing. Yeah, I got you. I'm with you. All right. Yeah. I really, I've been saying it all offseason. If only the dolphins had more speed, the offense would be fine. So, it drives me nuts. Can we just, let's talk about the dolphins roster because they have Rahim Moster, Devon A. Chan, Jalen Wright, Anthony Schwartz, they signed over the offseason. I feel like there's a couple

others that I'm missing too. I think if you rank, Tyreek and Waddle. The 20 fastest players in the NFL, the dolphins have six or seven of them. Yeah. So Tyreek and Waddle plus, I don't know,

there's probably a couple other guys in there, but these are all like legitimately, I don't know if world class, but at one point, very competitive track athletes. Dika, will you do the thing? I love when those cars go by.

Maybe get Kai to add in some rattling silverware. Yeah. We should get this. We should get their, Kai, yeah, get the rattling silver as So, Kai, yeah, take some folly for us, Kai. Oh, by the way, Malik, they also drafted Malik Washington

receiver out of Virginia tech and sorry. Just Virginia. Just Virginia. It's been a long weekend. He was a national champion in track as a high schooler in the 4x100 relay. This team

is ridiculous. Like, this is the most ridiculous NFL team ever assembled in terms of speed. All right, so next up, We got biggest reach, D.K. I'm going to go with kind of the obvious one, Michael Pennix. It would have been great if you were like, Jalen Polk. He was a little bit of a reach. He was a little bit of reach, I'd say.

But I was going to say Xavier Legat, but I didn't want to make Ben get really mad on a Sunday. Let's go with, let's go with Pennix. Even though, again, I'm kind of liking Penning Penning. I'm very interested to see what he does in his career. Landing in Atlanta at number eight is just ridiculous. I'm sorry. I will also say, because I agree with the Pennix reach. There's no question that is the worst picking on this drafts from terms of process.

And then they went and they reached and they get the guy like too far, crazy. The Broncos are so freaking lucky that the Falcons did that at 8. And they took Bonix at 12 and just no one's talking. Oh, yeah, Bonix at 12. No, that's one of the, like the second craziest reach of the last 10 years in my memory of the draft is Bo Nix at 12. And just put out, everybody, oh, Michael Pennix at 8. Oh, they told this. They said, it's going to motivate Kirk Cousins, all the contract.

thing and there's just so much coverage. But Sean Payton got on, on Pat McAfee show after day one of the draft and was like, man, I just, the way that I missed on Patrick Mahomes keeps me up in the night. And when I saw Bo Nixon, he reminded me of Mahomes. Come on. Nobody. These reasons allowed to do this because Terry Fonton took Michael Pennix. The Knicks deserves to be in this conversation as well.

I would say the Falcons are very reliable for taking the heat off of other teams. Yeah. The Seahawks famously through a interception to lose the Super Bowl against. the Patriots. And then everybody kind of forgot about that because the next year, it was like maybe the two years later, the Falcons blew the 28 to 3 lead. So anyway, thanks Falcons for all that.

It's appreciated. If we want to continue talking about Denver here, the next superlative is the biggest steal. And Troy Franklin, Bo Nix's teammate out of Oregon, fell all the way to, what, the fourth round? And went to Denver. Is he eligible? Do we think he is a possibility for biggest steel?

Yeah, he's on my list for the top steals of the draft. And just what it is, This is a funny thing. We're drafting speed. We're drafting speed like crazy. Xavier worthy first round. Xavier Ligate first round. We are drafting speed,

drafting speed, drafting speed. And then one of these speed receivers in college is like a little bit up and down. Like Troy Franklin was definitely like Mercurial, right? volatile player. And then he's like, no,

no, fourth round pick. We can't. He's, he's two, he's too shaky. And I want to be like, hey,

guess what? All speed receivers in the NFL. Like they save for like the top elite guys who are just elite everything they do, they're all up and down. They all gave Davis. They all have three catches for 89 yards one week and then one catch for seven yards the next week.

The idea that Xavier Worthy is going to have a larger role or more value on all three downs to all three levels of the field get used in more unique ways than Troy Franklin. It's just not like I can't get in my head around that. That to me just like does not track. So the fact that Franklin got as far down as he did and still has the opportunity for the Broncos to be exactly that which Xavier Worthy is going to be for the chiefs in year one,

which is a potential vertical threat because of the long-examination. and a potential design touch player, right? We let him just run after the catch. Like, that's excellent value. The real, like, like, so Tess Walker, who's the speed guy for UNC, he went also in the fourth round. That makes more sense for Tess because, like, his hands are bad. His routes are bad.

He has, like, actual problems that kind of prevent him from growing as a receiver. Troy Franklin, like, he has a bad drop now and then, like, no question, right? But, like, in terms of, like, routes and, like, receiver play, no, like, he clears the bar for me. And so I was surprised to do Franklin Falls as much as he did. I knew that he was going to be a little bit questioned because of the, the, volatility, but for a speed receiver this good to go in the fourth round, very surprised. I couldn't believe that Luke McCaffrey went before Troy.

Yeah. Like that was the wildest thing to me. I was expecting the other shoot-to-jave, like something about an injury that we hadn't heard about or maybe some sort of character concerns or whatever. But yeah, like I did write down in this doc that Troy Franklin has feet for hands, but I don't think, and I talked about this in the pre-jraft process, we shouldn't really beat guys up too much about that, I don't think, because it tends to be very, it tends to be very not sticky year over year. And if you look at what Troy Franklin did in 2022, he had like a 2% drop rate.

He was solid. And like just over the course of his career, he has an incredible production profile. So it was shocking to me that Troy Franklin fell this far. I was expecting some weird thing to come out that for the reason. And honestly, like Luke McCaffrey going in front of him is just wild. When Jalen Hyatt was like, oh, first round hype last year and he fell to the third round, I was like, okay, like that, like that, that made. sense to me based off how I evaluated high. Like that, he was just so linear. Like he just such a small menu of routes.

Try Franklin. Like, again, like he was linear in college. Don't get me wrong. He just like, oh, nine routes. Oh, just like a crow route. But he did more and you could see him doing more. Over multiple years of starting, you have proof of that. Like Franklin just has such a better bet to be like the actual sort of like every

year we cop a guy to be like the actual Will Fuller. Franklin's got such a better chance to be like the actual Will Fuller. Like he's a vertical guy, he's a vertical guy, he's a speed guy's all big plays. But you can put him on the field and all the downs. He can still run all the routes. he has such a better chance to be that than a lot of the speed guys who have come out recently. Great landing spot in Denver. There's so many reps to earn.

Like, yeah, it's a good spot. Just got an outer box for a phone case. It's fine. Is it harder to catch the NFL football because it's bigger? It doesn't have stripes. Yeah. Remember that? No stripes.

Is it harder or easier? A bigger bowl is harder, you would think? I would say it's harder. But I'd also say, like, the average college quarterback is way worse at throwing it. And so it kind of comes out in the wash, right? In terms of like, why haven't drops. Yeah, his quarterback in the NFL will be better than his quarterback in college. Yeah, well, I mean, his quarterback was a top 15 pick,

and we all felt that while we were watching for sure. Mahomes. Yeah, it gets patched for homes. Was he saying that he, Bo Nix had similar traits to Mahomes, or was he saying, I had the same feeling about this guy succeeding? So he started with that. He was like, very clear. He was like, I remember when I wanted to draft Mahomes at 11,

and then the chiefs traded up to 10. I couldn't draft him, so we were always going to stay at 12 and take Bo Nex, which, by the way, isn't the point of that story. The story about the Holmes is we were staying at our pick and someone traded up in front of us to get that. We should have traded up. That's why we stayed in our pick to take Bo Nix? That doesn't make any sense.

Firstly, so he's doing that. He's doing that logic, Sean Payton is. And then he gets to the end of that conversation, he goes. And so just like, you know, remembering the Mahomes situation. And you know, when I watch Mahomes, when I watch Knicks, the accuracy, like he then starts to compare their traits. And then he realizes what he's doing and he kind of gets out of it. But he absolutely unequivocally implies that Mahomes and Bo Nix have similar accuracy.

And it's just like, no. And then he said he duped, duped Minnesota into trading up to get McCarthy at 10. because he said the Broncos were feigning interest. Right. Yeah, they moved up one spot. Right. And he was like, he was like,

he was real proud of it. He was like, I was involved in making it seem like we were going to trade up. And then he paused for laughs and nobody laughed because it didn't make any sense what he said.

I feel like Sean Payton doesn't have, he doesn't have a strong enough filter. He needs to maybe to say less. Okay, or hear me out. I mean, actually, it's good for us and I enjoy it. But if I was a Broncos fan, I would be annoyed.

Yeah, Sean Payton's comfortable saying stuff. We had a superlative that we deleted that we were going to do most likely to have a podcast. Sean Payton maybe could have a podcast. Oh, 100%. He might be pretty good at it. He could just wax poetic for hours and hours about all the reasons he would have been right. And the other way, also, the way Sean Peyton speaks is like, welcome to our show.

Really exciting episode. You got to listen to him on 2.7. That's for sure. For you today. Yeah, no. Shout out Austin Gale. Wait, email us. If anyone here listens to this podcast.

over 2X email us. I want to know the I want to know the fastest speed at which anyone So we can lock you up. We should make it a poll like 1X

under one over one and a half over two. Yeah, yeah. That's great. We make that a poll. Write that down, guy. Yeah,

if you're listening on Spotify, vote in a poll. If you're listening at 2.7, you probably miss this. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, DK, DK, DK, DK.

I will listen to 10 podcast episodes at 3X speed and you can write a quiz up for me. Wait. I will... You listen at three? Solex, select,

wait, we never came back to this. You are psyched. We never came back to this. Do you watch TV shows at one and a half X? Not all the time. You, what shows do you watch at one and a half X? Every TV show where the platform allows you to watch it at 1.5X, he does.

Get out of here. Craig makes a good point. I do have an extension of my browser allows me to play Amazon Prime videos faster because they don't allow that in the native in the web app. You know, what? I won't watch, like, if I'm watching TV with my why. It's like I won't put it on 1.5 speed. It's ridiculous. But if I'm just like putting TV on in the background,

while I'm working, throw that John on 1.5. But why do, why does it need to be faster if it's background? Yeah. Yeah, I don't understand that. Because it can be. That's pretty much the only guy. I'm just used to hearing it faster. And I'm like,

I want to, you know, watch these reruns, these nine seasons of how I'm at your mother, these six seasons of Parks and Rec. I already know most of the major jokes. And like, I'm just kind of, you know, re-re acquainted to myself with the plot and the characters. This is like, Ben, he lives his life a quarter mile at the time. He just wants, everything has to be fast.

If we could one and a half X eating, he'd like that too. I would three X eating in a heartbeat. But this is like the people who came up to us at the live show. And again, I think it everyone who came to see us on Wednesday in Detroit. Thank you very much. And we're like, yeah, let's do it at 2X. Honestly, in person you guys sound kind of stupid. Yeah.

Oh, we sound drunk. We sound totally. We do are used to, when you're used to listening to it, it's like, yeah, the do, do, the, like, it's weird. Next up here, we got biggest bromance, D.K. Yeah. Well, we just talked about Nixon Franklin reuniting in Denver, but I'm going to go with Caleb Williams and Rome Adunzee.

My flight boys. I liked how they were working out prior to the draft in L.A. And then they flew together to the, to the draft. As fate would have it, they end up on the same team. The future is so bright for these two. I just love it. And also, I think Rome is kind of, you know, like more reserved. and a little more serious.

And Caleb Williams is, like, out there. They've got kind of like a buddy cop vibe going on. I like it. I think that's the correct one. But I also have to shout out, dude, for biggest brimms, it's Jared Verst and Braden Fiske, both at Florida State. Oh, yeah. And then I've never, that was crazy where they had Jared Verse, like,

arrived to the Rams facility in time to get on the phone with Braden Fisk with McVeigh when they were making the call and they both started, like, crying. And it was like, that made me, that made me so emotional because, like, there's a lot of videos of like, this means so much for my mom. This means so much for my family. You know, I came up through the trenches and like, you know, so much struggle. But you don't think about the fact that like Fisk and Verse, who are both small school transfers like the Florida State together, not like with one another, but like did it of the same

mindset with the same idea. Like, let's go win a championship here. Let's go get ready for the NFL here. They created such a bond. They like, we're in this together. And then when you enter the draft, you have to give that up. You just say, all right. Like, it was great being teammates, Jared.

It's great being teammates, Braden. But we're done now. Like, I will see you. when, you know, the Rams play the Titans, to end up back with that guy who, like, that was just a rock for you while you were going through this process, like that. Okay, now, I'm getting emotional now. I love that.

Oh, my God. That's amazing. You just, you heard, like, you just heard Braden sound like he had so much relief. Like, when he was on with less need, he sounded just like, oh, yes, sir. Like, here we go and everything. And then Jared came on. It sounded like he was talking to his friend again. And it made me so emotional.

Yeah, like, you saw a literal tear, like, drop down his cheek. It was really, really sweet. I also feel like that will actually make them play better. I know that sounds crazy but I think they will be better because they are teammates together once again. It will smooth the transition. It just helps, right?

You're moving to a new city. You're working for a new company, but you know somebody. Oh, that is so sick. The other one I have to shout out for biggest bromance, though, is also just the Detroit Lions all wearing Dan Campbell jerseys

in the draft room. That was cool. That was so freaking cool. Basically, they were like, if you can win an NFC North, we will allow you to wear these black alternates in 2024 and beyond. And so today,

Campbell and all his boys had Were the 89? That was Campbell's number back in the day? That was so sick. And then also just Brad Holmes, the GM of Lions, DK, just remains on an absolute,

you were so right. I know. Brad Holmes is doing the Steph Curry, Caitlin Clark, pulling up from 45 feet. Like, Brad Holmes, not only did he trade up

for Terry and Arnold at Alabama, which was an incredible fit. Then he went and got Ennis Rake Straw, the other quarterback who was incredible and was at the combine saying, like, I'm the best quarterback at tackling. And Brad Holmes literally said about Enst Rake Straw,

me and Dan Campbell were sitting there and talking to him, and I just felt dog, exuding, out of him. He said, just exudes dog. Did you see the, uh, did you see the,

uh, the, the, the shirt that Brad Holmes was wearing, uh, to his presser after their first round picks? No. Positional value or what did it say? So, and so he, dude,

he's asking for it. I'm telling you. People have been complaining about positional value with, with his picks. So he wore a shirt that said positional villain on it with a big male lion's head. And they asked him about it and he was like, well, people keep telling me about positional value.

I don't know what positional value was. And the, media was kind of like, ha-ha. And Brad Holmes was like, no, like, I did not know. He was like, I knew that like, they were premium positions. But the idea that you would draft a player because he plays a certain position and not because you want the player. And we don't draft positions here.

He'd never heard of that. We draft players. I was like, I was like, okay, firstly, Brad, BS. Okay, don't buy this for a second. Secondly, absolutely, go off king. We're wearing a positional villain shirt to oppressor as a bit referring to last year's draft, which again, the linebacker you took top 20 didn't play. We were half right with the positional value thing.

He is so far. He's so positive he's cooking. And I just love it. I love watching him go. We didn't even talk about the fact that the Eagles traded, they got Dianj Swift from the Lions, and they gave him like a 20-25th pick. Then Detroit moved up to take a 6'5-pound tackle

from the University of British Columbia. They traded up to Giovanni Manu, and I'm not going to lie, this is the biggest dude I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh, yeah, he's massive. He's a 3-50 and he's cut. He's a healthy athlete. Yeah, yeah. Dude. I like that pick.

By the way, he took two corners and a tackle, first three picks, like two of the most premium positions. But is there a bigger heat check than a Canadian offensive tackle who's like just was out here at the University of British Columbia? I am Canadian. And it's not just that. it's he traded a future pick to get up for the Canadian offensive tackle and then traded another future pick to move up again to get Cion Vaki who's the safety turned running back hybrid out of Utah and then at his presser he was like well we needed to move up and go get these guys we couldn't have got them otherwise and like maybe that's true I checked

Brugler's draft guide he had Vaki as a sixth round pick he had Mottu's or Monu excuse me as a priority free agent and Brad Holmes like I need to trade future picks to get into the fourth round to go get my dudes just let him yeah he's just going off he's yeah he he's he is immortal. Bullets would bounce off the man. He's doing whatever he wants right now. And I love it. Packers are going to win the division, but I love it. I don't think I've ever seen a coach and GM cultivate a culture quicker

than the Lions. It is remarkable who they are now. I mean, Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell came in in 2021. It's been three years. And this team has like a completely new renovated identity around them. And they are like the most badass like dog culture, like brotherhood. And the league.

It's unbelievable. And the next step point when we have here is most likely to succeed, just the draft class that's going to be great across the board. D.K., I think you had the lions for this, right? So probably the fucking lions. So my take purge is, is, it's looking very incorrect. Maybe next year I'll do it again. Because I still feel like they're, they're just tempting fate by the pure hubris.

They're showing it all times. One of these years you're going to be right, D.K. Dude, you know what? That's how the world works, all right? And not to, like, bring everything back to the Seahs. I know that I'm a Seackehomer, but like the Lions really remind me a lot of the early John Schneider P. Carroll era because there was so much bromance between those two. They ended up picking like four or five future Hall of Famers within like three drafts. Everything was going fucking swimmingly.

And then guess what? It all fell apart like pretty quickly. So anyways, this is how the NFL works. I'm happy for the Lions though. This is a really good class. This is one of the best. I graded it one of the best classes in the draft. I also liked the Mackay Wingo in the sixth round.

They kept scooping up value later on. I know that they took some kind of wild swings in the mid-rounds, but, like, I don't know, this is just a good class from start to finish again. So Brad Holmes can tell me to suck it or whatever in the meantime. But you know what? Just be careful because you're tempting fate is all I'm saying. So like, who do you have as most likely to succeed team with the best draft bus? I wanted to highlight the Packers draft class.

I think it's a really good one that just hasn't gotten a lot of, you know, like the Eagles one, the Steelers one, there's a lot of like the obvious guys. the Packers hung out at 25 took Jordan Morgan the tackle at Arizona he wasn't a big name like Tyler Guyton was a bigger name he was on the on the board and so I don't think people are as excited about as they could be but

Morgan I was a really likable player for me I think that he's a clear start in the league year one at tackle Edron Cooper's the linebacker out of Texas A&M they took in the second round this is the exact sort of player like I don't really like Cooper's film very much but I didn't like Quay Walker's film very much and then he went to Green Bay and they were like well we're just going to deploy you like a missile

and then it worked and then he got on the field and he improved over time. And like, Edron Cooper lands in Green Bay. It's like, oh, yeah. Like, they know how to make these sorts of athletes

work at linebacker. And then they did what the Packers always do, which is middle rounds. Like, Javon Bullard, to the safety out of Georgia starter. Marshawn Lloyd, the running back of USC. Why do they need a running back?

I'm not sure, but like I thought he could start in the league. I think he's a clear scatback. They took the Duke interior offensive lineman, who's going to, you know, it's a Packers office of linemen. He's going to end up doing something great for them. Kaelin King in the seventh round,

who like, Keel and King was on first round mock drafts entering the year. So you're basically just saying like, hey, what if 2022 was more reflective of this guy's talent than 2020 was? Like, well, we're just going to wager on that. They just did the classic Packer stuff. They took good players and positions of need. They stuck to their athletic thresholds. Like this is such a, like most likely to succeed, I feel like as a super relative in high school was like, okay, like not the valedictorian right now, not the star quarterback right now.

But like five years down the road, might look back and be like, oh, yeah, like, you know, you had it all together. And that's the Packers draft. It's always like, all right. Like at the time, it looks like a B, and then three years from the road, they're going to have three of these day three guys who are starters. And that's just the way the Packers draft and develop.

Yeah, honestly, the whole NFC North that draft passes were pretty incredible. Lions and Packers, as you guys said, the Vikings, I know they traded up a lot of picks to get JJ McCarthy and Dallas Turner, but holy shit, like McCarthy and Dallas Turner are probably going to be really good for Minnesota. And then you look at Chicago.

Oh my God. Like Caleb Williams, Roma, Dunese. And then they got the Iowa punter, which is hilarious because practice makes perfect. And the Iowa punter probably is punted more than anyone's ever punted. And then did you guys see what Caleb Williams texted the punter when. I love that.

It was Tori Taylor. Caleb Williams texted him as soon as the Bears took him. Hey, you're not going to punt too much here. I'm going to be honest. The Iowa punter is gassed. Not that good. Barron's last year was better. Hot take.

What's hot. Oh, hot punter takes coming in. The Bears, the bear's draft is, you know the scene from Super Troopers where they're at the shooting range and the guy comes with like the cup he's like going to wear the cup and have him and the guy shoot him in the crotch or whatever and he's like how's your aim today and he shows him he's like he shows him the like his practice target or whatever it's like all grouped in one little spot and then there's like another one like way up by the neck he's like see that guy I wouldn't

worry about that little guy that that's the punter in this draft for for the bears everything else was great that little guy wouldn't worry about that little guy yeah it's just shooting him in the day. God, that's a good movie. I got to go back and watch that movie. Right, me out. It's super, super, super, it's incredible. Farva!

All right. Most, all right, we had, who is the second round or most likely to lead all rookies and receiving yards? This was an interesting, I like this category because there's literally

four second round receivers. They're all kind of, have question marks, I would say. I ended up going with Ladd-McConkie, which might sound counterintuitive because he's going to the run-heavyest team in the NFL, possibly. But I think he has a chance

come in and be like they're de facto number one, like right away. We do like Palmer a lot, I will say, but Lamaconki is kind of different. He's just so much more explosive. So so much quicker. Palmer and Ladd, kind of a kind of an MJ Pippin situation. Yeah, yeah, for sure. This year. What do you guys think?

Ladd will be good for them because they have no receivers. That's what I'm saying. Except for Palmer, who's awesome. Not a one. Other than Michael Jordan. Yeah, they don't have much there. Kai Kyes

there's also two former TCU receivers on the Chargers who shan't be named at this point. Yeah, the T. Johnson,

Darius Davis. Darius Davis was an opera. The memes, the memes of that were going around of like, you know,

there's like this whole archetype of me now of like, who's going to block. It's like you take the lineman and then the quarterback throws it downfield

and then someone edited it to be like Quentin Johnson Katz and it bouncing off his hands into Ladman-Kakki's hands. That was incredible. For that one,

I have Keon Coleman. And let me just be the first to say, we're so back on Keon Coleman. We never left, as a matter of fact. We did not give him a first round grade. I did end up with putting a two on him. I don't like the Royal. Put his athletic testing in, whatever.

But we were never gone. Write that down. And now we're back. Him with the Bills is great. I know Bill's fans have talked about their concerns with his, like he's a contested catch guy and Josh John is like throwing the contested catch guys. But Allen's just so much, he's more of a quarterback than he was,

more well round that he's going to be able to help Keon and make Keon work. Keon's also, I promise you a better separator. than his numbers at Florida State would indicate. Watch the film. Watch how often Jordan Travis just threw him into a contested catch or threw at him when he was not open and should not have received a target. Like the contested catch rate stuff,

some of it's lying to you. I promise you, Keon's going to be able to separate for you. And there's just, there's nobody in his spot right now in Buffalo. Like, Buffalo's been trying to find some of these bigger receivers to work as like traditional exes and they just haven't been able to.

It occurred to Samuel, Khalil Shakir. Like Keon Coleman is pretty uncontested. It's him and Justin Shorter for like that, that X role. He's going to win out of these and get a lot of volume. So Keon Coleman, man. I was never gone. If I were gone, we would be back.

I think Kean Coleman honestly also should get the class clown award. Oh, yeah. Dude. Yeah, he was awesome. His presser after, he was absolutely cooking. The yellow jacket asking people where he bought it. And somebody was like from Tom Izzo and he was like, no, I got it at Macy's. He's like, what are you talking about?

I got it at Macy's. And he was like, yeah, like my mom always like buys things two seasons in advance to get him on sale. And he's like, so I got this yellow one. Now I got to get a blue one and a red one because I'm on the bills. He's like, I'm going to wait out of summer. $7,99. Great deal.

Buy my jackets in July. Yeah. And he literally people are like, why. And he looks at them like they're idiots. And he's like really nicely. He's like, well, if you wait till the winter, everyone wants a jacket. Yeah. My mom taught me.

I couldn't agree more. All right. First thing I'm doing walking into Target this week, I'm going immediately to the clearance section, trying to find me a fleece, trying to find me a hoodie. I love it.

All I do is shop. You got to buy a fan. You got to buy a fan in the winter because once the summer starts, it's all hot, everyone wants a fucking fan. You can't get one. The breakdown also of his waffle house ordering.

First of all, the incredible, he gets like the two chicken sandwiches from McDonald's on game days. And then the waffle house order, he looked like hash browns and cheese. Athletes are just built. I know.

Like D.K. Just eat handy. Right. Eat Chad Johnson. Like only had fast food for like his entire career. That's how I want to be able to eat. That's my thing. Right.

It's like if I could just do that and then I have no consequences. Just be an elite athlete regardless. Guys, guys, guys. Getting old sucks. Yeah. Just go to throw that out there. You can't start really watching what you eat. You start realizing that, oh, that makes me feel terrible when I eat that.

When you're young, none of that shit matters. Is D.K. going to change his diet as he nears 30 or did he just going to stick to to nerd ropes. I feel like he's got a much stronger foundation than most people in terms of them. I don't know. The wear and tear. He needs nutrients.

Have you seen him? Maybe I'm going to fade D.K. Metcalfe because he only eats candy. I can only go on so long. Is that how you look like that? You just don't eat candy? Yeah. Give it a shot. I'm not eating enough candy.

Yeah. That and prebiotics. They cancel each other out. They get you to neutral. Yeah. Dude, if we were, if I were out on Keon Coleman, which I was not.

and just his landing spot hadn't gotten me back in. The press would have gotten me all the way back in. Player like that can't fail. He has the Waffle House cook's phone number in his phone. Pinned. It's pinned, he said. The Waffle House cook?

He wants to be able to warn him explicitly. Like, I am en route. That's so sad. Why would you need to do that? Dude, I love that. You're not often like waiting a long time to get your meal. Why does he need to alert efficiency? You walk in, they put it down on the table.

I'm not going to lie, I used to do that too. I used to order it. There's a diner in L.A. I used to call them and just tell them my order and sit down. They put the food right in front of me. But you don't need the cook's number to do that. Can you just call the restaurant? I be like, can I order this?

Dude, they're probably boys. And then you go pick it up. Probably hooked him out. Cut out the middle, man. Knowing Keon Coleman's personality, I say, having watched like six videos of him interviewing over the last three months, he seems like the sort of guy who would have a particularly good Waffle House experience. Be like, who's cooking back there?

Let me go see him. Yeah. And then his wife. Dave, what's good? Let me get your digits. I'll hit you up next week. Mason's what you mean. You walk into a waffle house,

you turn to the side. There's like that message from the owner and they're like, we're not in the food business. We're in the people business. I'm like, God, damn. I can just see Keon Coleman after like a Thursday night football game,

seven catches, 140 yards and two scores, just on with Lisa Salters, just saying the wildest things you've ever heard in your entire life. He'd like catch a game winning touchdowns. It's just talking about absolute nonsense. Do you see his score

to his three imaginary touchdowns? Oh, my. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This is the exact headspace I'd like for my receiver to be in at all time. We don't. This is how I was caught a touchdown right now. Who is the most beloved wide receiver personality right now in the league?

Who's like the most lovable wide receiver right now? I think it's cute. Kind of like quirky, lovable, funny. Pooka. Excellent question. Pooka. Pook and Akua is kind of like Danny Rojas. But that's kind of like, you know, because he's so young and productive.

Yeah, I don't feel like that's personality based. That's a good story. And he's like very likable on the field. But as like a personality, is there any wide receiver that everyone's like, I mean, I guess they're all usually just like divas. So it doesn't really work. Yeah, I was going to say they're not like beloved. Yeah, the receivers are built.

I would say St. Brown is definitely loved. Like people like he's like he's like, yeah. Like just because he's like, he's very like typical for that Detroit team and he's very hardcore. I feel like people love him for that. That's a good. That's a good.

That's a good. That's a good. I can't remember. I feel like I can't really think of a Amon Ross St. Brown interview. Well, he's got, he's got the podcast.

You know, you see him clips sometimes. It's not so much the interview as it is. like the mystique around him, right? Yeah, that's a good point. His dad was a bodybuilder and also he speaks three languages. Yeah, I think Keon Coleman straight up, the more he talks, the more people were going to like him. Cadarius?

Craig? Yeah. Craig, say it louder. For the people. Cadarius, Tony? Top five? All right. Speaking of which, we have first rounder most likely to get their GM or coach fired. Should we like, should put Michael Pennix and Boe Nixon in a set? Like, it's obviously the two of them and then we should take other

people? Yeah, I think, yeah, we should put them aside. I'm not going to lie, when Terry Fonton, know, the Falcons GM, sometimes you hear some very, very rarely, but every now and then you do this job and you hear someone say something. And it comes out of their mouth and you're like, that will define your fucking career. And it's sad. I honestly, I feel bad. But when Terry Fontenow said, yeah, if Michael Penix doesn't play a four or five years, that's great. And I'm like, fair or not, that sentence will follow him the rest of his life. And that's not fair, but it's true. Yeah, it's too quotable. It's just an incredible thing to say out loud.

Who else though? Who else is in here? I think, oh, for like getting fired. I think actually Caleb Williams is most likely to get his coach fired because... What? No, yes, because Caleb Williams, Romadunzei, the head coach is Matt Everflus. You say that, but Everflus is 10 and 24 as a coach. The Bears have a stupid amount of talent on this team. And if the Bears start... Oh, so you're saying if they can't win with Caleb, then...

If they can't win, if they bears start one in five, no one's going to blame the players. No one's going to blame the GM. Like, Ryan Poles built an incredible offense. Matt Everflus, with Shane Walger as the offensive coordinator, they are so thin ice if these guys don't perform. Go get Ben Johnson, the coordinator and the Lions. So this is specifically to get the coach fired not to GM. No, the GM, I think,

is safe, but coach Matt Everflus, if they start one and five, I don't think Matt Eberflus will make it a Halloween. Halloween is an important day for Hypatts's his understanding of Chicago. It's a big day. Stuff's going down by Halloween. You know what it gets too cold. Everyone goes back inside. It's, you know what I mean? I put, I put Malik neighbors on here, Hypatts, just because, yeah,

I feel like Joe Shane is probably fine. Brian Dable, I think there's probably a little bit more frustration, but just with the way the Giants have had a rotation at wide receiver with the interest in going for a quarterback. And then, like, we don't talk about it enough because pre-draft, we were like, all right, there's seven teams that want a quarterback and which team will get left out. And because the Falcons got involved, the Raiders and the Giants were left in the cold quarterback-wise. And like, that's a big, you know, note on their draft, right? As the Giants were ready to make a future move of quarterback, and they didn't have a chance to. So they take

Malik neighbors instead, if neighbors doesn't work for this offense, and it's just Daniel Jones again, throwing to a bunch of like, you know, middling slot receivers, you know, quick guys, speed guys. And then they run into the same issues with neighbors that they run into with the other receivers of a similar mold. Darren Waller seems like he's going to retire at this point. Like, there's a chance this passing game is even worse than it was last year while Daniel Jones is healthy.

You could see the amount of frustration boiling over for the front office and for the, and for the coaching staff, especially because neighbors were selected with Rob on the board. And you just don't know, Rome might walk into Chicago, Caleb Williams, and all of a sudden just be putting up big numbers. and that's really going to burn if Malik Neighbors isn't producing. So there's a tenuous there up in New York. Yeah, we'll see what happens with Daniel Dones this year.

Jenny. It's going to be tough if J.J. McCarthy and Drake May are just like amazing right out the gate. And then the Giants next year are going to be sitting there with nobody. Nobody has Jane Daniels for this one. Along those same line, that's the exact like logic I guess you could use is if if Drake May, J.J. McCarthy or any of these other quarterbacks, even Bo Nix puts up. big numbers, man, and Jane Daniel struggles in any sense.

Like, that could start to look tough. But they have so much of it. They have a long runway, I feel like, because they're all new. They're probably going to get a few years at least. And that actually feel that same way about Fontono just because, I mean, assuming that Kirk Cousins can come back healthy, I feel like this team is going to be good. And if they're good, Fontno is not going to get fired. That's his whole plan.

He's like, look, if Pennix never plays, that's the ideal situation. Watch this just like work for Atlanta. incredible. I mean, yeah, that could be a thing. All right, we have a most, the player most likely to steal the starting job from the person above them on the depth chart. I feel like this has to be Spencer Rattler, who's now on the Saints. Rattler, who is like the number one high school quarterback prospect and select a recovering Rattler fan. And like, Rattler basically was in this Netflix show and he was just a total, like, Hall of Fame douchebag. And he's like calling all these kids. He's like, like, dude, bro, why are you missing all these throws? Like, just totally like,

an asshole and these other start at the other quarterbacks. And he's like, you're soft, bro. You're soft. And I'm like, here's the thing. If Spencer Rattler starts talking to Derek Carr that way, all the Saints receivers are going to love Spencer Rattler. And I think he's going to win the locker room immediately. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Spencer Rattler is like, you know, there's like, there's like,

a fantasy series where it's like, oh, like, he's like your mortal enemy. It's just sworn up, like, you know, like the exact opposite, right? Like it's like if you took Derek Carr and put him into like an opposite machine in every, every way. Vibe, play style skill set. It's just Derek Carr and just Uno reverse car black and white invert the picture. It is the weirdest. And people said this when James was the quarterback there. No, like this is the real anti-car.

I am fascinated to see how New Orleans holds this team together next season. It's going to be chaos. Yeah, it will be fun. if Carr gets hurt and Rattler comes in and starts slinging it, and even if they don't win, it's just like a way more exciting brand of football. It will be interesting to see how the Saints fans react. It's not,

I'm not going to lie, it's a disaster. Derek Carr's locked the fuck in for $90 million in next two years. Like the Saints cannot get rid of Derek Carr. They restructured the contract. He is going to get paid a lot of money. And they took a fourth round quarterback last year in Jake Hainer. They took a fifth round quarterback this year in Spencer Rattler.

So they're restructuring Derek Carr. We're also telling you that they would love for anybody to supplant Derek Carr. Great bit. Most likely first rounder to flop with their first team and succeed with their second team. Dude, I have Xavier Legat for the Panthers. Like, this is a local kid. Like, great one. I like, he's a good kid.

He's raw. I'm betting against the Panthers. I'm betting against the team. He's a good kid. He's like 24. Good kid. Unbelievable accent. Good.

Best accent ever. Best accent ever. The most Caroline and I've ever heard. Legitimate, I watched the video of him describing his morning after the draft. I would say no short of 15 times. I walked to Mary yesterday. I was like, hey, have I shown his video of Xavier Ligat? And she was like, yes, you have shown it to me.

Stop trying to show it. Did you want to listen one more time, though, don't you? Just a draw. We should play this. Yeah, play it, Kai. So you woke up a Carolina Panther this morning. Did you have to pinch yourself a little bit? Oh, no, oh, no, man.

I woke up really, man. I got a cow right after I got jellet it. They was coming with Pete me up at 930 and the morning. I told him I'm going to be ready. I just am betting against the team whose owner flips hats off people's heads. And then when they take players, nobody wants to be around the owner. Like, it just seems like a bad place to develop a player. he will do nothing and he will go to San Francisco for a fourth round pick,

and then he will replace Debo Samuel in three years. You know who I compt him to is Cordero Patterson? And remember who drafted Cordero Patterson? It's hard to remember because he didn't really do a whole lot for them. Vikings. But like later, but it took him much longer in his career to become a star, essentially. That's what I'm saying. They moved him to running back.

He did all kinds of cool shit. But yeah, I could see that. I'm going to go with what draft history tells. us, even though I love this player and I refuse to actually believe he's going to be bad. But if you look at draft history, tight ends, first round tight ends are I think one of the lowest positions in terms of resigning with their team. And it's also one of the longest learning curves. I know I, by the way, people always complain we use the term learning curves incorrectly. I don't know. Do we? Deepest learning curve, flatest learning curve. I don't care.

Whatever. If the learning curve is challenging, it's more steep. Yeah. I know. But I I think I've heard when I say he has a steep learning curve. People are like, that's not right. That's not technically incorrect how you're saying. Yeah, I guess like a person doesn't have a learning curve so much as like they will have a learning curve. Whatever. Yeah. It's going to take a long time for them to learn.

It's going to take a while. Leave it alone. People from Phoenix are Phoenician. People from Phoenix are Phoenicians. It's like, it's Brockbauer. So he's going to be probably just okay for the Raiders. and then he's going to sign with some other team on a second contract and just absolutely go nuclear.

So yeah, sorry, sorry, Austin. I do think Legat is a great one. I wrote in my column this week. Like, I would be 0%, not 0%, I would not be shocked if Ligat follows the exact same arc that DJ Moore did before him, where he just shows up, he is productive, we know that he's good.

He's putting up a thousand yards seasons. He's clearly a guy, but the Panthers just can't get quarterback right. And so eventually they get to the end of his contract and they're like, well, let's got to get something good for you to go get a quarterback and then they just keep sticking in that horrible cycle over and over and over again. Legget, man, I know D.K. is not your

favorite. I was never out, so I didn't have to be back, but if I were out, that interview again would have brought me back. That's what I'm going to succeed. I just need to hear his voice the next 10 years. We're going to be right. The dulcet tones. I just, look, I like Ligat. I think he has a lot of talent. He's extremely exciting player to watch. I just, with him, it's kind of

I'm just betting against the profile more or less. Like, he took it, he didn't, he had like 18 catches total his first four seasons. This profile doesn't work. Is that good? Is that good? The fifth year breakout of the, the breakout was incredible. He looked awesome last year.

I cannot, I'm not denying that. But generally speaking, it's not a good sign. What's going to happen to Jonathan Mingo? I feel like Jonathan Mingo wasn't bad last year and now it's like the Ligetz here, Deonté Johnson is here? Like, is Mingo just done? So, is he going to be on a different team? So I, I mean, at first I think that there's, there's enough room for him, right?

I think like, if he, like, you know, the get is this far from a short thing. I think that if he can carve out a role, like he said, like he had flashes last year. I don't think he was overall kind of good for what you wanted a top 40 pick. But I do think that he has a chance to still hold a role. Like I don't think, you know, Deonté Johnson, Adam Thielen, like you're expecting those guys to play for 17 games and to take 80% of the snaps, right? Like there's a spot for Mingo.

I do want to say, because I've seen this, Mingo and Liggett have similar height weight. And so a lot of people have brought up in fact like, oh, like these are similar players. I cannot stress you enough how much more faith that happens they were like that. I was not a Mingo fan coming out of Ole Miss. I did not see the usage in the league the way they're going to use Xavier Liget. The speed on Liget makes him such a dramatically different player than the one that Mingo is. Anybody who's making a Mingo to Lgett comparison, in my opinion, like, I do not see those two players similarly at all. And so I think that there's a world first way that can coexist.

It would be great. But anybody who's like, oh, like the Mingo didn't work. It's now Liget won't either. No chance. Next up here, we have the most likely to host S&L one day. DK, this has to be Caleb Williams running away, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's Caleb Williams. Super charismatic. Kind of controversial. Quarterbacks are always, you know, the most famous players on their teams. And he's going to be probably one of the most famous players in the NFL pretty soon here, if not already. Yeah. I feel like Caleb Williams. And he seems like he's pretty funny.

I don't know. It'll be fun to get to see him more, like, talk to the media and stuff like that. But it feels like he's pretty funny, too. Yeah. And like, I think with Caleb, one, it's nice that he's in a big market, right? He's in Chicago, unlike Mahomes, who's in Kansas City. Mahomes, although he's the best quarterback in the world, he's not like a huge personality.

He's not like super charismatic or anything. I mean, he seems like a perfect. He just drinks course light. Half his personality. Yeah. And like the other guys, again, Josh Allen's in Buffalo, but he's pretty charismatic. But again, he's in Buffalo. It's like all the major market guys are like the Jets,

Aaron Rogers, that's the whole thing. It's like you have like Justin Herbert in L.A. and Matt Stafford who aren't exactly like very chatty, like loquacious, charismatic guys. I do think Caleb has a real shot to like, take the mantle. Joe Burroughs definitely there a little bit too, but again, Cincinnati.

You're so right, Craig. You're so right about this, actually. Yeah. So I think there's a real chance of Caleb works out that he is like the most famous quarterback in the league by a lot.

I will counterpoint it with Drake May. Just not because I think your points of Caleb are wrong that you can contend with Caleb, but just swing it in the other direction. Because Payton hosted, right? I want to say, you know, it's a bunch of times. And it was just like, hey,

let's just take the slightly awkward man with the Southern drawl and let's have him host SNL and someone will write jokes for him and it'll just be funny and cute because he's just like an average looking white dude and that's Drake May right you see May speaking during the in the pre-draft process and speaking on the day of and whatever and it's just all all

you know all we're just so excited to sat Carolina love Carolina join the leagues whatever team is so excited to join the Patriots like he just like that's what that guy out there make the country listen to him he's cheerful and charming and delightful so May but not in the Caleb direction in the Eli Manning vein of things yeah I think you're both

right. Dragbe does have a low bar to be really famous just because he's in New England. And then Craig, to your point, I totally agree that Mahomes is definitely going to be the most famous player for a long time, but Caleb has to do very little to be the second most famous player in the NFL. Just because Kyler and Arizona is not a beloved team. Like, Pennex,

the Falcons have a weird fan base to kind of like college football more than the NFL. You're right. Burroughs in Cincinnati. Trevor Lawrence is in Jacksonville. Like the distribution of the most famous elite quarterbacks, like Herbert's on the Chargers. Like, like Caleb is in a position to be like supercharged celebrity like within 12 months.

He already seems more like fashion focus. He's wearing like a chrome heart suit at the draft. And like Mahomes, I don't think has those elements to his, he doesn't have that in his bag. Mahomes like Coors light and golf. Like he's a kind of a weird normal person. Has Mahomes?

He hasn't been on SNL, right? Kelsey has, obviously. Kelsey has. Have you ever seen the video? I'm sorry, I can't remember who posted it, but it's like the most perfect thing. That was like, comparing Mahomes the way he talks to,

it's almost exactly in cadence and style to Kenny Powers, like talking about like how cool this party's going to be. It's like, it is the most perfect thing in the world. I can't even like begin to describe it. Like changes your entire world view when you hear it because he sounds exactly like Kenny Powers the way he describes. It's Kermit the Frog reading Kenny Powers lines.

Yes. And even Kenny Powers and Bahams. We both have kind of curly hair wearing the pit fibers. Right. So incredible. I feel like if Mahomes was going to be on any comedy show or like sketch show, it would be, it would be I think you should leave, not SML. Do I know who Kenny Powers is?

He is the character in Eastbound and Down. Do I know what he's on HBO? Have you ever heard, have you seen this as the end? Oh, God. No. He's honestly like the funny character alive. I feel like I've seen this guy on like gifts before. Memes.

Yeah. The character's like a former MLB pitcher who got outed for steroid. used. It's basically like the Eric Gagne story. And now he's trying to get himself like back into the league again without steroids. And he's just like a loser piece of shit. And it's great. It's kind of like the, he's honestly Spencer Rattler had to go back to his high school town and just like coach Jim and then like try to be in pro sports again. But he's a dick. Yeah. It's really funny.

I will watch and enjoy. I dropped a link to the Mahomes, uh, Kenny Powers thing. It's just too good. Maybe we should drop that in. So we started off. They actually do a nice party for us at the hotel. The chain smokers came through. DJ Collid came through.

I had the goddamn spoon man from the Soundgarden videos coming to my shit. No way. Oh, yeah. I'm talking six grills burning at all times. Tiki torches, three whole pigs, fucking shitloads of macaroni and cheeses, baked potatoes, collard greens. Tiki torches, three whole pigs. That's actually incredible.

I love when the guy that the principal guy is like, yeah, you know, Kenny, you're not the only athlete here. I happen to be training for a triathlon myself. you know running, cycling, swimming. You get it. And he goes, no, I don't. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising. All time bar. I love that line.

One of the most underrated minds. I play real sports. I think I told you guys I went to a bar in Fort Myers, Florida, that in the bathroom, they have a TV that only plays the Kenny Powers jet ski scene in the bathroom on a loop at all times. Isn't he like with a topless woman on that jet ski? No, no, not in that scene.

No, I don't think so. I know because I recently looked it up. Yeah. That scene? Which one? No, the jet ski scene because I compared Brian Thomas to Kenny Powers on a jet ski. Just majestic hair flowing, ripping around on a jet ski. Love it.

Also, I have to shout out. Just the Jalix Hunt, the defender that the Eagles drafted, most likely to win Jeopardy here. There's this tweet. Someone found this tweet that Jailix Hunt had in 2018 talking about the Eagles, and he's an eagle now. And he responded and said, bald eagle, amazing bird, two sets of eyelids. One set being hard and one set being transparent. When storms approach, instead of hiding, the eagle used those transparent eyelids to fly into the storm. Debris can affect vision.

And the eagles use the storm to rise above the storm itself. I am working to be like the eagle. Whoa. Wow. So the bald eagle kind of has like a visor it can throw on to fly through the storm. So a lot of birds have it. It's called a nictating membrane. all right. Wow. Wow.

Yeah. It moves. And it's not up and down like most eyelids. It's like side to side. Yeah. Creepy. Yeah. They use it like they use like goggles. Like birds just get a lot of debris in their eye and debris in their eye in general. Like windshield wipers. Yeah. So they function like windshield wipers. But they're also transparent. You can kind of put them on and put them off. Ben's a bird. Most birds don't fly through storms because they're not big enough. But bald eagles can get that done. Ben knowing that off the top of the dome was kind of incredible.

I saw Red Teld Hawk this morning. Well, dude, hawks are sick. Fawks are so cool. Ben, do you have bald eagles in your area? You got to come out to the northwest, if not, man. Yeah, I had bald eagles where I grew up. Yeah, I grew up in the Delaware water gap. I'll go on canoe rides on the Delaware River,

kayak rides and look at the bald eagle nests. But out here, they're further north than me. I've seen one up north of Michigan, but where I am in GR, very unlikely to see one. Do you guys know how, you know that? Owls are basically silent when they fly. It's fucking crazy. Really?

Dude, I really like owls. Owls are, you know, there's very little owl inside of an owl. They're like mostly feathers. Yeah. Yeah. You ever seen an owl's legs when they like, if you like pull up the feathers on the pants? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's like nothing weird. Huge. So owl feathers are really rounded. And that's what gives them their, they're silent flight relative. They're stills. They're really rounded and they're softening edges. The other thing that's cool about owls is that the reason why they're light on the breast and they're dark on the back is that way they can be camouflaged from below and from above.

Like a shark. Yeah. So if you're like a little rabbit looking up, it's hard to see the owl because the lightness of their belly blends it with the lightness of the sun in the sky. And if you're a bigger bird hunting an owl from above or if you're just anything that's trying to see an owl from afar, it blends into the trees, right?

You go back into the trees or it blends into the ground from below. So that's why you have that two tone on most owls? That's so sick. Owls are awesome. Email us about owls. No wonder Jerry Jones loves the owls fucking the chickens. Crazy. All right.

Well, why, why, random shit? You guys want some emails. So we got a lot of emails on Oreos from our last show. Last show we were talking about. Got a lot of emails on Oreos. New sentence. We got a lot of Oreo related emails. I always get the notifications and just like over the last 24 hours,

just like new email being like Oreo thoughts from Dave. And I'd be like, all right. This one's from Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. Andrew. So Craig had been asking about what is the flavor of an Oreo, you know, cookies and cream.

Craig's like, what is that? So Andrew says, I went to University of Oregon for my undergrad where I took a business law class in which the professor had a story about how Oreos originally copied a cookie called Hydrox back in the early 1900s when they were first founded. Terrible cookie name. Hydrox. I'm not trying to eat hydrox. I'm not trying to eat hydrox. Wonder why they didn't work out. I know. That sounds like bleach. It does. I know, right? Hydrox was actually the original sandwich cookie introduced in 1908 by the Sunshine Biscuits company. However, in 1912, the National Biscuit. Why wouldn't they call them Sunshine Biscuits? That's a great call. Sunshines. Yeah. We could run.

The tasty cookies. Just don't call it that. Hydrox? I don't want to eat rocks. Yeah, don't call it hydrox. Hydrox is like rubber cement or something that seals something to something else with water. That is not a cookie. Hold on.

What was the point of the first Ebo? I missed that. Well, it's just that Oreo stole it. They stole it from Hydrox. That doesn't help explain to me what the flavor of an Oreo is. Oh, yeah. No, he didn't really answer that. He's just wanted to establish what they were thieves.

But we take an email from Nick. I'm less concerned with the politics of early 1900s cookie manufacturing. Can we talk about trademark law? Yeah. I want another fucking flavor. I'm like the meme of the pawn shop guy. My best I can do is trademark law. I got email from Nick.

Nick. We're also wondering why there's so many fucking flavors of Orios. Nick said, because I was like, I think it's to real estate so other things can't be there. And he was like, kind of not really. The marketing research shows that in supermarkets, people's eyes and brains just scan over things that they've seen a bunch of times and don't even really process that it's there. But when there's something new, it jumps out and makes your eyes and brain want to investigate the new shining object.

So when Oreos or M&Ms or Coca-Cola or whatever release a new limited edition flavor, they might sell out of those eventually. But the data shows that there's actually a spike in sales to the original version because people notice the new thing. And then I was talking about. Yeah, it's just a flavor that makes them think, yeah, that seems weird. But man, I sure do love Oreos. And I'm like, damn, I sure do love Fig Newton's.

Man, this type of research is a little bit, it's just kind of disheartening that this is how it all actually works. No, I was thinking the same thing. I just feel manipulated whenever I read about this shit. Yeah, just like tapping into the lizard brain of all of us and being like, you're all just animals that we're going to trick with, with, you know, bright colors into buying what you, we want you to buy. Yeah. I like,

in the world of, like, internet, like digital advertising and keeping me on my phone and everything that gets horrible, in the world of making me eat Eminem's more. I'm fine of it. Not bad. That's that. Yeah, exactly.

That's that, that, that context. Yeah. Yeah. I like Eminem. I wish I ate more of them. Now I do.

All right. We also, I'm not going to lie, a lot of people leave them old day to be like Oreas are flavored like hydrox. But, like, we have nothing on what hydrox is flavored like cement. A wild number of people who are done with. Dude, it's Natalie, shut up. Natalie, who emailed us being like,

oh, my boyfriend mentioned Hydrox too. He didn't know either. I'm like, none of us do about Hydrox, Natalie. I don't know. But what? It's not a still thing, though, right? Oh, God. Go back. Okay. So in 2015, Hydrox made a comeback. When Lee Frans acquired the trademark and began producing the cookie once again, the revival reignited interest in the classic Hydrox cookie with some consumers

preferring its taste of Oreos. However, Oreo maintains stronghold on the market because it's called fucking Oreo. Yeah, I'm looking, you can buy Hydrax cookies right now on, on Amazon. Their slogan is America's original cream-filled chocolate sandwich cookie. So sick for you. It's like exactly the same. The name Hydrox, even with this font, I'm like, this is just like a cleaning product. Yeah, it does.

It's really, that's brutal. It does. It looks like a Matt, what's that Castle company thing? Magic Times, Castle Times, Magic Castle Times? Magic Castle? Medieval Times. Medieval Times. It looks like the medieval Times.

time's fun. Anyway. This marketing is all over the place. Do you guys want to hear about the good ones though? We got email from Jake. We got to break that of them. The ones, the stories worth eating. Jake. Jake. The classic Oreo, the pocket passing golden boy, obviously. Smores. A lot of

people hit us up. That smores Oreo. Shout of Josh. A lot of people hit us up. Smores's Oreos are the good Oreos of the weird ones. Smorios. Spores pop tarts are really good. Maybe smores is universal. Yeah. Is what, like, what is the flavor of a s'mores Oreo?

Marshmallow and chocolate. Marshmallow. But what about the graham cracker? Dude, I don't know, man. Graham. And the cookie. So the cookie tastes like a graham cracker. The graham cracker originally tasted like Hydrox.

That's actually what they modeled the flavor after. You're familiar with Hydrox, right? You've tasted it. I feel like that's hard to accomplish in an Oreo because the cookie would both have to taste like chocolate and gramcracker. Well, the Oreo is the gram cracker biscuit cookie, and then there's chocolate and a marshmallow in the middle. Kai points out that he had Smoors Pop-Tarts for breakfast Today?

Today? Hayness. Kai, can you get in here? You have Pop-Tarts today? That is great. Kai loves Pop-Tarts. I mean, who doesn't? I mean, I love Pop-Tarts.

I do not like Smoors' Pop-Tarts. I don't like Smoors-flavored stuff. Yeah, I like Smoors way more than I like Smoors'-flavor. Yeah, that's true. But the Smoor's Pop-Tarts rip, but is it judging if I'm like

I haven't had one since I was like 14 years old? Yes. Yeah, same. I feel like it has to be dessert at a certain point. Kaii, are you excited for the upcoming film Unfrosted, directed by Jerry Seinfeld about the creation of the Pop-Tart? I'm locked in. No chance. That's a real sentence. It's on Netflix.

It's real. Or it's going. Oh, my heavens. What? Jerry Seinfeld wrote and directed a movie coming out in a week called Unfrosted and it is about the battle. The true story of the competition to get the Pop-Tart into the market. Craig, I think we just invented the new two jargons of the live for the summer, which is two movies coming out soon. one you made up. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, unfrosted. I mean, Jerry Seinfeld hasn't, like, been involved in a movie since B-movie. So his, like, two movies in his career will be B-movie and unfrosted. The most amount of money anyone's ever thrown in. Pop-Tarts had one bowl game that went well, and they're like, we're going all in, baby. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. When they switched up the Cheez-It's bowl to the Pop-Tarts bowl, I was pretty excited. I'm not going to lie.

That was big for you? Yeah, it was big for me. Jerry's obsessed with breakfast, and that's why Seinfeld began because Larry and Jerry started chatting about cereal, I think, and they hit it off and were like, we should write a show about nothing, which in the final episode of Kirby,

they have a joke where they like talk about cereal. But they're like obsessed with breakfast, and I think, so maybe Jerry, you know, getting back to his roots by making a Pop-Tart movie. So did Jerry do anything on Seinfeld? Because you kind of look at it,

and I'm like, he's got nothing going on for like 20 years. The character? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? The character of Jerry? He's trying to say that Larry. He's trying to say that Larry David was the genius behind Seinfeld, not Seinfeld.

Like, I guess I always thought it was like 50, 50, 50 Jerry and Larry David. And then I look at Larry David making like nine seasons of curb. And Jerry has done nothing for 20 years. And I'm like, other than getting coffee and cars for money. And I'm like, so did Jerry write any of Seinfeld? He was the co-creator with Larry. That's what it says. But then you look at everything since then.

And I'm like, he's got nothing going on. I think, I mean, one, Jerry's like a billionaire. So he doesn't have to do anything. And two, he's been doing stand-it for the last. 20 years. He tours all the time. Yeah, also isn't Kurb essentially the same idea? It's just like a little improv and stuff. It's about nothing, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just about a fictionalized Larry David living his life. And yes, the show is mainly improvised. It's just an extension of Seinfeld. It's not like a brand new idea. But I get what you're saying, Hi Fitz, but, you know, Jerry just does,

he's just a stand-up. He's just saying he's done B-movie and the Pop-Tart thing in 20 years. He also did kind of weird. Comedians, drinking coffee and driving in cars or whatever they fucking call it. Yeah, which isn't as good as curb, obviously. Right. But he's not a, he's not like a director-producer type. Like, he's a comedian. He's stand-up. He just does stand-up.

Yeah, okay. All right, I'm just wondering. If I made a billion dollars, you would never hear from me again. Dude, you know, the speed of which I would be living in an unnamed mountain in Montana. I would be off-line. Snap. You guys, you guys would be like, oh, certainly Ben will, like, text us for our birthdays. No chance, dude.

I don't know you. I don't know any about. I am gone. I don't have a phone. Grady again. It's over. Just caught a stray there. It's fine. Can I just say real quick? If you guys ever need me to try like a Hydrox cookie for one of those things,

you know, I'm kind of locked in for that. We can't have you try cleaning supplies. That's definitely like a good idea. HR violation. Let's make a list of the worst named foods. Hydrox is up there for worse. Email us other worst named foods. Ring your fancy football at Gmail.com. So we got all those Orias emails and we learn nothing except about Hydrox. We also didn't get through like even a quarter of that email.

Yeah, Jake's email. We got to s'mores and then stopped. Oh, yes. There's golden Oreos. There's red velvet. There's red velvet. Trophy crunch. Yeah.

Mint. I've had the red velvet. They're not terrible. I had cookies and cream ice cream last night. It was lovely. Yeah, there you go. Dude, it's the best thing. Oreo flavored ice cream.

Come on. Copyright. All right. That's it for the NFL draft show. Please stick with us for the summer. We're still being doing stuff once a week. but thank you to D.K. Ben.

Thank you to Craig. Yeah. Is this a graduation song? Yeah, we're graduated. Can you guys hear that? Vitamin C. Hell yeah. D.K.

Sing it. Oh, I got to fast forward. Very long. Another four, another four. Wow, I didn't know this song had other lyrics. Oh, yeah. Lyrics? What do we, I don't know what's going on right now.

As we go down. I don't know the actual words. I don't know either. Thank you to D. I heard it. Thank you to Craig. What is this? You don't know the song? No idea.

It's called graduation. Friends forever. I have no idea what this is. I'm enjoying it. Good morning. I would like to say thank you to Ben Solac, who you come on and do the show with us for really like a third of the year. And I got to tell you, it is more fun. And I learn more every single year.

and while I spend four months making fun of you, you're the absolute fucking man. It is an absolute pleasure to work with you. I think we really spent four months making fun of you, Hyfitz. That's true. I'm glad that's your read on the situation? It's like, thank God. That's how you feel.

Are we making fun of Ben? I don't think so. That's Joachovich once like, how do you deal with everyone booing you? And he's like, I just pretend they're booing the other guy. And I'm like, oh, yeah, why do you get hit him so much? That's so weird. No, I was, I was legit, I was thinking about it while we were doing the show today. The show is so easy.

It's so fun. It's so free. It's just like, the fact that it's four of us, we don't do it together year round, but you guys just open up space for me. Like I'm a, like, I'm a, you know, NBA player added at the deadline and get my touches in the offense. Like, it's, it's so cool. I really appreciate you guys. Fucking Kevin Garnett, just fucking rain threes.

Not Kevin Garnett. I'm about to say. As Garnett famously did. Durant is, Durant is what I meant to say. Sorry. You know, Kevin Garnett and his three ball. anything is possible I feel like you guys didn't get that reference

I know I know that yeah of course we did could get over to Kevin we love you man we love having you on man you're the absolute perfect person to have on the show during draft season we love it I get constant texts and emails from people saying they love you on the show so yeah that's great it's pretty much universal yeah thanks guys

if I knew a lick about fantasy football I'd stick around year round But it would dramatic. Your listeners, you would lose listeners if I stayed on for a fantasy football era. We'll have you come back. You gave one listener. You know how we literally were like, we need people in meetings to come in and just be like, hi, Drux. Why are you calling it that?

Like at the last second? We should have So let come in for our rankings in August and be like, David Montgomery. Josh Palmer, I could have saved you all on. I would have been there for JP. This is his year. It just comes in. Yeah, it's the Josh Palmer time. Oh, my God.

And the live show was so fun. Hopefully we'll get to do another one of those next year. Although the drafts in Green Bay, I don't think we'll be doing a live show from Green Bay. Maybe. Yeah. But I would imagine it'll be somewhere else. So stay tuned.

If you go and you read the pressors of like Brian Goodecuts and Matt LaFlor and like the team president, his name is escaping me, talk about the draft in Green Bay. They're like, yeah, sure going to be a lot of people here. I don't know. They're not as as well built for that as Detroit is. Why is it there? Like, who voted for that? How does that work?

The league goes through a vote every year and they think about what they want to happen. I don't know. They give it that good organizations who are behaving or something. I think that they've just never given anything to Green Bay ever and they'll give them this one thing and they'll never give them anything else for like a hundred years. Heck yeah. We have no honor. Yeah, but thank you, Ben Selleck. It has been an absolute pleasure and I can't wait for you to come on and shit on Josh Palmer three months.

I'll gladly do so. On impending fatherhood. And of course. Thank you, Lord. Lord. Thank you. Banana Ramma. Oh, yeah?

No idea who that is. Craig. Why? Craig likes, Craig likes old music. What is Banana Ramah? Cruel Summer. Banana. Very famous song.

What? Wait, Cool Summer. Is Cruel Summer by Taylor Swift is a cover? I'm not a cover. Like a homage? I don't know the Taylor Swift version, but yes, probably. Cruel Summer is not a television.

It's a crew. Crew. Crew. Gruesome. I'm not a very good singer. I had no idea that that phrase existed before Taylor Swift and not going to lie. Cool summer. I didn't know that.

Yeah, I didn't know that one either. I'm a hyphids on this one. I will go out defending highfights. I'll go out with high sense. You know what? What is cruel summer? I'm just going to tell you, the young ins, look, here, the newest version or the newest edition of Grandpa, tell us about the war.

Almost every fucking pop song is a cover. Just assume it's a cover. Okay? That's all I'm going to say. It's either a cover or a sample. I would say probably 75% of all songs are either covers or samples. Thank you for telling us about the war, grandpa. Yeah.

I didn't know. There's nothing new. There's nothing new on earth. That's worries. On that lovely note. I don't love that. We are all derivative. Anyway, doing it next week for the fantasy football show.

The Young Generations. They're just all about me. Me, me, me. The internet. It came in the mail. You can't win without us, is what I'm saying. He came in the mail. Bye, goodbye, man.

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