The Ringer NFL Show - NFL Free Agency Chaos, Seahawks Blow It Up, and Steelers Go All In

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

The guys react to the biggest free agency deals across the league, including the Seahawks moving on from Geno Smith for Sam Darnold, the Steelers doubling down with DK Metcalf, Davante Adams’s new home, the Browns locking down Myles Garrett, and so much more (1:56). Later, emails (01:17:05)! Check out our 2025 Ringer NFL Draft Guide here! Email us! [e-mail] The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck Social: Troy Farkas Producers: Kai Grady and Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Usually we come here. We play the free agency drinking game this time of year with Adam Schaefter. We don't have time for that. Craig and Dic are already hung over. Craig is sick Craig has the flu or something this is Craig's flu game Craig are you live I haven't actually asked how you're doing I'm okay I don't know if I have the flu but there's something between the cold and the flu anyway I was in a fug state

sleeping yesterday on the couch I literally woke up to Hyfitz calling me I did not answer it and then I logged on Twitter to find out I logged on blue sky actually because Twitter was down most of the time to log on to find out that DK Metcalf had been traded to the Steelers so thank you I told you brought that to me HyFitz I told him to call you Craig because we've talked about this as the past this was a call someone situation. Normally,

like, you know, you text someone or whatever, the group chat's blown up. You need to call Craig, get him on the horn

and tell him that D.K. Mekaff is now a Pittsburgh Steeler. It's ironic. We should go back to our D.K. Metcalf argument

from a couple years ago, Craig, and see how that's, see how that lives. We have a lot of arguments that we're going to have to relitigate here. For those who are just

tuning in for the first time, Craig's a Steelers fan, DK is a Sealks fan. DK. I already can't remember the argument. Was I anti-DK? Yeah, anywhere. But not like, you weren't like you hate him or anything. You just think he's overrated.

You just, well, you also had thoughts on Sam Donald will have to revisit. But yeah, so, D.K. So, D.K., since we last recorded. Fair. The Seahawks have traded Gino Smith to the Raiders for third rounder. They signed Sam Darnold for like a hundred million dollars. The Seacke's cut receiver Tyler Lockett, and they traded D.K. Metcalf, who's like your favorite player, I believe, to the Steelers. You were named after him, I believe. You're named after him, I believe. You're named after D. DeK. Yeah. So, yeah. So, DK, my first question for you, wellness check. Are you okay? I mean, I've already worked my way through the however many levels of grieving that there are. And I'm on the other side now.

I feel great. No, I don't know. I'm trying to decide which one I liked worse or which one I liked more, I should say, in terms of which one hurt more, I should say. Like trading Gino away or trading D.K. Or trading D.K. There's no way trading Gino hurt more than D.K. Well, I think it's worse for the team. Yeah, yeah.

But emotionally, like to who you are as a person. there's no way. It's the end of an era. Craig's like, DK Metcalf icon. How could that not hurt you more? I know, it's tough. D.K. McCaff, 27 years old,

in the prime of his life, in the prime of his career. He doesn't have him 28 until basically the new year. I know. Well, he came into the league really young. I think he's like 20, 21 years old. So he's been around it for a while. But yeah, it's kind of weird because

generally speaking, I think it's, and this is something I should say. I've been, you know, like talking about a lot on our show lately is, Cap space when used on good players is a good, like that's a good use of cap space. Using that on good players is a good use of cap space. I will, you know, go to my grave saying that. However, the Seahawks decided to trade away a good player.

Well, two good players, really with no, not much of a backup plan. The Sam Darnold thing now it makes more sense. Technically, it wasn't official when they traded him. I think there was some sort of like handshake deal, which is probably illegal. But, yeah, the Gino Smith thing makes more a little more sense to me now. The DK MacKast thing is it hurts my heart a little bit, but I think it's not as it doesn't affect the Cocks quite as much. So that's that. You seem dead inside.

Yeah, you do. I mean, dude, the Ciox, the second best receiver on the CX is Jake Bobo? Maybe. Who is the second best receiver on the Ciox right now? This whole thing is funny because I feel like. In Seattle, D.K. Meckoff and Tyler Lockett leaving the team is a sign that, like, the Russell Wilson chapter is officially closed. Yeah. Like that era of the team is like, it's officially done.

It's the peak carol. It's the end of the carol. Craig, I said this yesterday on blue sky, skeeted it. Ugh. We're still doing this. Blue sky is a huge day. Twitter's down. We're doing it harder than ever. We are so skiing.

So follow us on Blue Sky. Blue Sky is like Twitter if Twitter wasn't horrific. So it actually works most of time. Basically, when Mike McDonald took over for the Seahawks, this kind of flew under the radar. I don't know if we actually talked about it on our show, but he took down all of the posters in the VMAQ, which is the Seahawks headquarters of like all the great moments in recent Seahawk history. You know, Richard Sherman probably like tipping the ball to Malcolm Smith to go to the Super Bowl, a handful of others. It kind of, it hurt people. It hurt some people.

I think I saw Richard Sherman talking about it, how it's stupid. And it kind of pissed off some fans, pissed off some local radio hosts. It was like a big talking point in Seattle. At the time, I was like, come on, who gives a shit? This is meaningless. Like, he's just turning the page, like, starting a new era. And now, like, getting rid of DK MacCaf and Gino Smith. I'm like, oh, I probably should have actually looked into this a little bit more.

Like, yeah, they are fully turning the page on the Pete Carroll era. This, that is over. This is a whole new thing for the Seahawks, you know, Gino Smith was like Pete Carroll's guy. Gino Smith was one of the only players who went to Pete Carroll's. you know, press conference when he was fired or whatever, which is, again, kind of a weird thing to do. But yeah, so it just feels like we have completely turned the page on those old Seahawks. This is a brand new thing, brand new system.

Obviously, John Schneider is still here, but it feels like they're very intentionally sort of like closing that chapter of the Seahawks. Yeah, the remnants of the glory days are officially gone. Do you think straight up, did the Seahawks upgrade a quarterback? No. I think there is a chance. And this is cope, I'm sure. I don't think right now, like, in a vacuum,

I think Gino Smith is better than Sam Darnold. I don't think that's really a hot take. That's probably not a hot take. I'm going to go out of here. I'm going to go out on a limb. You don't seem like you're coping with any of this. I wouldn't describe any of what's happening right now as cope. What do you think I'm doing?

What do I think you're doing? Sober and depressed. Coping is like if the giant sign Aaron Rogers and I'm like Super Bowl. Well, here's a coat. Here's what I would say if I was coping. He's a lot younger. Sam Darno is 27 years old. He's probably a better fit, honestly, for the Clint Kubiak offense.

I would gripe over how the Seahawks are doing this. Typically, as a coaching staff and a free front office, you want to tailor your team and your roster and your scheme around the strengths of your quarterback. They went the other way. They got a new offensive coordinator who is largely unproven and has been fired multiple times in Clint Kubiak. And then they brought in a quarterback that will fit that

instead of having the guy that's been good and there. So that's like a weird. strategy in itself. Him fitting is also irrelevant if they can't fucking block. Half the reason why Sam Darnel was good on the Vikings is because, one, it was a very cushy situation all around with the coach and the skill players. But he was also protected.

And the Seahawks, Bill Barnwell, I was reading Bill Barnwell. He said, the Seahawks are last and money spent on their offensive line in 2025. Yeah. So hopefully that changes. You know,

this is, again, if we had talked on Sunday or whatever when this was all going down, I'd been like, the Seahawks have no plan. the hell is this they're like tanking um now it looks a little different so i obviously like maybe in a week or so we'll find out the seawks have made all these moves to improve their offensive line made trades whatever laramie tonsel was traded today which i'm sure we'll get to um you know things

like that whereas we haven't quite seen all the different dominoes fall yet for me to make a full you know appraisal of the situation but yeah i mean the offensive line is not been good i saw minas mina kind said this stat uh in terms of pressure rate on pressures that come within less than two and a half second. So basically really quick pressures. Gino Smith had the highest pressure rate in the NFL last year. So good luck with that, Sam Darnold. I think the,

I think that the scheme will help some because they were, they're going to be running the ball and play action and doing something schematically to help the quarterback that faces a lot of pressure by booting him out, getting him outside the pocket, things of that nature. I don't know if it's really going to work. This is all very like good in theory.

But again, to get back to my cope, if it's the answer I would give you if you're looking for like the silver lining this or like the positive. positive glass that full thing is Donald's younger, cheaper, and he has the, there is the potential there for him

to become a franchise quarterback. Whereas like, Gino Smith, he's 34. He's going to be 35 this year. That ship has sailed. He's a bridge quarterback, 100%. And I think Darla- When you talk down a player, you always mention the age they're going to turn next year.

And then when you talk up a player, it's like he's still only this age. 100%. He is also going to be turning another year old than next year. Gino, but Gino actually turned, to me I'm like,

DK Metcalf is only 27, even though he'll be 28 at the end of the year. But Gino Smith, maybe he is 34, but he's going to be 30. I'm 29. Not right, will be 30.

He'll turn 35 on October 10th. So what is that? Like week five? I don't know. But you know, but his age is weird because it's like his, what's his biological age? He's barely played.

Well, Dean Donald's playing. Brian Johnson over here. Yeah, it's like that Brian Johnson guy who's trying to live forever. So he's measuring his like dick blood flow or whatever. His penis is 32 years.

My dick is biologically 22 years old. Have he seen the duration of his directions? That guy should not live in LA. I continue to be baffled by that. The air quality here is bad. That guy is just unbelievable. Yeah, also, oh my God. Anyway, if you don't know what we're talking about this is.

He also kind of looks his age. I mean, I know that's kind of not the point. Yeah, he's 46. He looks 46. No, it's 100% the point, Craig. It's like $50 million. It's about your age on the inside, but also the outside doesn't look great. No.

He's definitely aged himself. But Gino Smith reminds me that because Gino Smith's like 34, but also has played fewer games than Sam Darn. in the last decade. So it's like, how does that work? Why do quarterbacks age? Because how much of it's just being 35 and how much if it's, you've accumulated a lot of hits in the last 12 years?

So I don't know. And on one end of the spectrum, he's actually, you could argue. I don't know what his biological Brian Johnson age for Gino is. But I, D.K., I don't know. I'm sorry because it's weird because I guess my question that I still am rattling around in my mind is if the argument is basically we're going to have this like Kubiak system and we're going to have like what kind of what Donald was doing in Minnesota and more like McVeigh style, like more like modern stuff.

Why not just do that with Gino? Like what is the hesitance on the Seattle end to do? Is it just the age or is there a part of Gino's game that Mike McDonald and maybe John Schneider don't really mesh with or is it just they want someone seven years younger? They don't think Gino can do that because I feel like Gino's played better. And that sounds crazy because but Donald had a better team than. I know. Well, for starters, Kubiak coached Arnold in San Francisco in 23, I believe.

Keep in mind, Sam Darnold will be 28. this year. That's true. Also, for people who are wondering what I'm talking about, I know Donald played well with Minnesota, but also that's with like just a better team and a better... Better surrounding cast. Yeah. I think, so look, at the end of the day, teams tell you what they think of players. Yes.

By their actions. The Seahawks traded Geno Smith for a third round pick. I mean, that's crazy. That's really all you need to say. Like, they just don't think he's that good. Yeah. Like, at the end of the day, they, they, just don't think he's worth giving that much money to.

They don't think he's the future of their team. They think they have a better chance of kind of resetting right now instead of giving Geno Smith this $50, $40 million per whatever. I think it was like 45 per at least. They think they're in a better position to sign Darnold, hopefully turn Darnold into the next like Baker Mayfield type reclamation project where you have sort of a not a franchise quarterback, but a guy you can win with. They obviously didn't see that with Gino, even though.

you could argue that they were doing that. They won 10 games last year. I don't really, you know, there's a lot of, it's confusing, I think, for Seahawk fans. But, you know, at the end of the day, I think that's, this is sort of their calculated risk is they think they have a higher upside and they can get him cheaper. And they get a third round pick by going with Darnold. So would you, would you have preferred they just re-signed Gino and re-signed D.K? Yeah. I do.

I mean, I think so. I'm already kind of talking myself into this. it's like the mystery box, Craig. We were talking about, we were comparing like, who would you rather have Russell or Aaron Rogers? And believe me, we'll get into that.

I'm so annoyed it hasn't happened yet. If it happens well, we thought that'd be great, but like, honestly, and you said at the time, this was like we were having this discussion probably like two or three weeks ago.

It was like, I want Aaron Rogers because he's the mystery box. I've already seen Russell Wilson. I've tasted that. So there's an element of that for me with, with Gino Smith where I'm like, I don't know, let's see how this goes.

Maybe he does fit better in the scheme. Geno Smith did a ton of there was a ton of shotgun stuff this year. Generally speaking, he didn't do it. Maybe this wasn't his fault, but they didn't do as much play action as I think the team would want. And they had a really, really like high pass rate this last season. They fired their office coordinator. They fired their, they fired. They traded away their quarterback and they're going a completely different direction with it.

Can I cut in here for some breaking news? Yes. Oh, no. This is from Adam Schaefter. Oh, no. The Browns just traded for a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Who do you guys think they traded for? The Browns traded for Super Bowl winning quarterback?

Super Bowl winning quarterback. Can he picket? Yeah, trade. Carson Wentz. Because you're doing this as a bit. It is Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett.

Yeah, it's real. Bring back the Kenny Pickett stats. The rumors are true. The Eagles are trading quarterback Kenny Pickett to the Browns for a 2025, fifth round pick and Dorian Thompson Robinson. Oh my God. Damn, Kenny Pickett. Damn, well-traveled.

The Eagles are going to turn Dorian Thompson Robinson into like a third rounder at some point. Yeah, they're going to flip that red paper clip. I will just say, so what Gino thing, I want to come back to the Raiders of it all, but I want to stick here with the DK Metcalf trade. Because again, so DK Metcalf traded for a second round pick.

They wanted a, Seahawks wanted a first and a third, and then they settled for a second, and then like a little pick swap at the end. And then the Steelers signed him to five years, $150 million. I don't know, frankly, I don't know whether start with Craig's elation or DK. DK has been sad for a minute. You technically don't even know if I'm elated.

That's true. How do you feel? Yeah, how do you feel? I think it's really fucking cool. And I think the Steelers don't do cool things. And I think ultimately, if you're a Steelers fan, if you don't like the money, if it's too high, if he wasn't the receiver you wanted it, you have to throw all that away. This is cool.

The Steelers never do cool shit. It's not your money. You know what I mean? like enjoy it. We got a really cool player. This is the biggest free agency signing the Steelers have ever done, basically. Do you guys, you know what this feels like?

You know when you have a friend that like just won't come out to a bar or just stay out or whatever or just, you know what I mean? Never comes to the second bar. Is the Steelers trading for D.K. Metcalf feels like you got the friend to come out that never comes out. It's a perfect analogy. And there's like nothing cooler than that. It's like, no way.

Jeremy's coming out tonight. Now you're like, are you okay? Is he okay? Yeah. Are the Steelers okay? It feels a little bit like you're buying a quarter. a vet before buying a house because I don't know they're going to throw to George Begins or

D.K. Mekker or Pat Fryer with. But like there was no good homes on the market. So fuck it. We'll live in our car. Yeah. We'll live in our car. I dropped this. Sounds great. So Jackie's from Pittsburgh. I dropped this in the group of their family and they're just like, so who's throwing him the ball? And I'm like, yeah, that's a good question.

Because I don't even want to spend that much time on it because, I mean, I don't know. It's like the Rogers thing might happen by tonight. It might happen tomorrow. I don't know if it's going to be Aaron Rogers to the Steelers. I feel like if it's not, though, it's going to be Russ. Just because Russell Wilson and D.K. Metcalf, like, D.K. Metcalf, one of the reasons D.K. McKayf, one of the reasons, Danny Kelly fell in love with D.K. Metcalf is because he had, like, 25 touchdowns at his first two seasons in Seattle with Russell Wilson. So I don't even know if Pickens fits there either. I feel like Pickens might have to go. So I feel like the Steelers have more moves coming. But I totally agree, Craig. I don't totally know what they're doing. But this, to me, is the point. How often have the three of us joked that the Seahawks are just the NFC Steelers? The Steelers are just the AFCC Seahawks. They're these both teams who are always competitive, always good, rarely great.

And you're in this weird mix of your tired of rooting for these nine and seven seasons. You don't want to complain to people like me whose teams suck, but you're just never on the level of the Eagles or the Chiefs of these teams you want to beat. And to me, this whole weekend is the story of these two teams taking completely different approaches where the Steelers are like, we got to do something different. We're going to go to DK Metcalf and maybe like a real like a real guy, like Brooke Price. and ESPN made a great point that the biggest outside acquisition with money the Steelers have ever done is like $41 million last year for Patrick Queen, $41 million. DK's $130.30. It's like by far the biggest investment they've made in a non-stealer.

Like the last time they traded for a veteran, not counting Minkin Fitzpatrick, who was second-year player. The last time they still, Bill Barnwell had this. The last time they played it for a traded like a second for a veteran was like Jerome Bettis in like 1996. They never do this. And then you have, so they're going for it. But the Seahawks are the opposite where they're just.

they're really tearing it down, like for real. Yeah, it's a little messy what the Steelers are doing. It's like, but it's fun messy. You know in a fantasy draft when you're like in a bidding war for a player, but you don't really want them, you're just kind of enjoying the bidding war and then you end up with them. Now what? And then you're like, all right, well,

and then you just kind of tilt and be like going to spend. It does feel like that's what the Steelers did a little bit. And it's like, we got Darius Slay. I didn't see the numbers for that. What we got Darius Slay for? That's a good deal, though. You need him. That's perfect.

But so I'm like, yeah, yeah, this is fun. The Steelers are doing things. I want Aaron Rogers. I don't care. I want Aaron Rogers.

I'd rather have to be in. He's getting ahead of story here. He wants Aaron Rogers. I want a two-year deal, whatever it is, 70 million, 30 guaranteed. That sounds great to me.

Craig, the funny thing is the, I guess the, not ironic or whatever, but it's just funny contrast because literally in Seahawksland according to the people that I've seen, basically everyone was like,

darnold, like, I don't know about this. Like, this feels like it's not going to work. He totally collapsed late in the season when the real pressure was on. He was terrible.

How is this going to work in Seattle? But he's not Aaron Rogers. Christ for that. I'm fully aware that I'm going to, I'm diluting myself. But it's like, I don't know. The Steelers are kind of getting older and they have a lot of talent.

Your window is totally different. What else is going on? If you can have just a motivated Rogers a year after the Achilles, I'm like, let's just do it for a couple years and see what happens. The other funny thing is that so on blue, we posted on blue sky,

Craig gave me this idea, I wanted to gather for a run down just all these texts from parents, like things that, what in the free agency news cycle gets like prompts a text from like your dad or your mom or your grandparents where they're just like, hey. And it literally just became almost entirely a thread of Steelers fans whose parents were concerned they would sign Aaron Rogers.

Like it was just like 20 of just like, oh my God, are we going to get Aaron? Why would we do this? 20 cowards. Over and over again. What? Cowards.

They're all cowards. It's scared to compete. Scared to compete. Scare to compete. Deke, how do you feel, though, because again, the Steelers are just doing something different, but how do you feel about just the idea of a rebuild? Because I think what... I don't think they...

Rebuilding with Sam Darnold is a really terrifying sense. It's not a rebuild to them. Well, I guess it's a retool. I guess it's John L.A. Remodel. They're remodeling. It's a remod. It's a remod.

No retool you reload. Yeah, but the Seahawks, because you mentioned they've the youngest offensive line in the NFL. They have the cheapest offensive line in the NFL. And so, but I don't know. I guess the way I'd look at it is I think, on one hand, I was, respect them because I think Mike McDonald's and John Schneider, the GM in Seattle, are like looking at this as they actually, I think are putting not their jobs on the line, but this is kind of the path to how you get your job on the line. John Schatter for sure is. Donald sucks and Gino Smith's awesome with the Raiders and the playoffs.

Like, that's bad. He's going to kill. He's going to kill any goodwill he has remaining with the Seahawks fan base. But the flip side is, I bet they looked at the fundamentally, they do this because they looked at paying Gino and paying D.K. Mekhef is a bigger risk, which I find hard to wrap my mind around. but like we'll see if it works. Well, yeah, I don't know. Again, not to like defend the Seahawks,

but they've always kind of had this theory. I think John Schneider, in particular, has always had this thing where they don't like to give third contracts. You develop through the first contract, signed to a big second year extent or second contract extension. And then they're pretty reticent to do a third one. I believe they did one with Cam Chancellor and his neck immediately gave out and he had to retire.

They refused to do it with Earl Thomas and he went crazy. So there's like some precedent here where they just are really reticent to give any player a third contract with the team. That's D.K. McCaff now. I don't necessarily agree with that. Like I think every situation should be, you know, treated individually. But I think that there is some like precedent where they don't really like to do that. It's kind of like the Bill Delecheque thing where it's like get out a year early rather than a year late. It's because D.K. McCaff's turning 28.

So you got to get out. Yeah. In late December, though. He's still in his prime. Most of the season, he's 27. He's still in his prime. Let's be honest. Like, this is kind of ridiculous.

Have you seen his body? He's fine. He's going to age like T.O. He's going to be like 38 years old. Have I seen his body? It's the only thing I have on my, all my tabs are just different shots. I don't know how many athletes' bodies have seen more than D.K. Metcalfe, to be honest. I've seen a lot of it.

Can I, can I just say one little button on the Steelers? If the Steelers do get Rogers, I can't stress how much he will hate George P. I was going to say, they're not going to get along. I can't stress how much. The Rogers thing kind of makes sense if you don't think about it of like Rogers metcalf and Pickens yelling at each other. I'm like, this could go sour. Like Tom, honestly, part of me looks at the Roger.

If the Steelers get Rogers, it's just Mike Tomlin being like, I just, is Mike Tomlin must be a glutton for punishment if he wants to wrangle all these people. It really is Tomlin flexing on look at how many personalities I can juggle if he has George Pickens, Dickens, D.K. Metcalfe and Aaron Rogers. Do you, Craig, do you think, I meant to ask this, do you think this is actually we're still waiting for? another domino to fall here with pickings like they trade pickens yeah because i think so pickens and dickens and dk mackaff have a pretty similar skill set in terms of like the things they win with down the

sideline big two go routes right yeah um and he's also in the last deal last year of his deal right last year of his rookie contract you know omar con at the combine he was interviewed about pickens and i thought he did not do a great job of sounding like he wanted to keep pickin it it it was a little bit he was like the sea hawks said yeah jito smith is our quarterback Yeah, it was a little like, George wants to be a great player and we want him to be a great player. So that's kind of where we're at right now.

Yeah, I think Pickens is either going to get traded or this is his last year in Pittsburgh. I mean, the reality is if you just look at the situation, the Steelers, the way they play football are not going to be paying DK. Metcalfe 30 million a year and George Pickens, what, 22? You can't do that. So I think they move them if they can,

if they want to or if they're able to or at the very least let him go in for H. next year, but I do think it's either his last year as a Steeler or he's gone, so we'll see. The other part we have to get to, so I want to get to the Raiders end of this, where the Raiders, before we move on, anything else you guys want to say about them, this is... I just think, Craig, it is cool.

I think D.K. Beckhaff in his Steelers, Steelers'Urish is going to look fucking great. Yeah. I don't know who's going to be throwing him the football. My immediate reaction to be totally honest and transparent was like, fuck, what does this mean for fantasy? D.K. Beckhouse is probably going to be even worse in Spain. Yeah, the Arbor Smith?

Oh my God, dude. It's pretty bizarre. It's like terrible. If they do keep Pickens, this is the battle for number 14. Yeah. Oh, my, imagine what that conversation's like. Yeah, interesting.

Pickens has been playing nice on Twitter and Instagram and stuff. He seems to be happy about this. He's like posting photos, photoshopped already of him and D.K. Maccalf, like these two guys are going to take over the league. So that is cool. I feel like they should motivate Pickens and be like,

play one more year. We'll kind of lie and be like, and we'll give you a fat contract. He plays great and then you get rid of him. But, yeah, I think this would be cool. I think they should keep them both. Okay, I want to get to the Raiders, but here in a second.

Jackie, who did a jump scare of me is trying to do it again. I see you now. So Jackie's trying to scare me again. That was the best, but I see you. Yeah, there's a video that we can put on Instagram, but Jackie, like, scared the shit out of me coming home early. Anyway, the Raiders got Gino Smith. And I want to shout out the Raiders, who I was really,

I'm not a lie, I just thought that this was maybe the worst job in the league. I said the Saints where I'm just like, you're in a division with like Sean Payton and the Broncos and Harbaugh and Herbert and the Chargers and the Chiefs who just went three Super Bowels in a row. I mean, it's still a tough situation. It's still a tough sit, but I will say, I don't know what they could have done to make me feel better realistically than they now have Tom Brady who's actually involved and not just like,

I just thought it was something on his portfolio. He really does seem to be involved. Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly's offensive coordinator, which I think is going to pay huge dividends to them in the draft, like this guy who's like been part of college for 10 years. And then now they get Gino Smith for a third round pick who, again,

Gina Smith's the best quarterback. I mean, since Derek Carr in 2016, I was talking to Austin Gill about this. And I'm like, before that, dude, Rich Gannon? Like, Gino-Smith is automatically one of the best quarterbacks the Raiders have had in our entire lives. Like, it's like Rich Gannon, Derek Carr's one good year and whatever Gino Smith does this year. Beggers can't be choosers.

And D.K. was on this about the Raiders are not going to go draft a rookie quarterback. Pete Carroll does not want to start fresh like that and build his way up, especially with this quarterback class this year in the draft. I think this is great for the Raiders. Like, are they going to win a Super Bowl with Gino? No. But it's going to be competitive. You need to like pick up momentum. this is like a proof of concept.

Go win nine games, prove the infrastructure works. This is a way to like two years from now, other teams are going to be like, oh, the Raiders are a legitimate team. They have a legitimate infrastructure. People want to go there now.

It's a real organization. This is so much of early days Seahawks. I remember when Pete Carroll came to town, initially I was kind of like skeptical. It's like this college rah-rah guy. But in year one, they were competitive. They won like a random playoff game.

the Saints like that. Random. That was the Beast Quick. The Beast Quick. I know. It was crazy. But they were 7 to 9 that year. They like stuck in.

Everyone was so mad that they made the playoffs. And then they destroyed the Saints. And then they beat the defending champion Saints with like one of the most iconic plays like in my life. Certainly like in one of the most iconic plays in NFL history. Was that in the ringer top 100 sports plays of the 20th century? It was. And I wrote about it actually. Shout out.

Yeah. Yeah. The ringer had the top 100 sports moments of the century. Go to the ringer.com is great. Yeah. Number one. But yeah. But yeah,

this reminds me so much of that. because after like a year or two, the Seahawks had turned what was kind of like a sad sack organization, you know, like up in the Northwest, people don't really know about the Seahawks. And they turned him into like a really exciting place to be. And they got some free agents.

Culture. Yeah, they created a culture. They started winning more. Pete Carroll, again, super high energy, just makes it a fun place to be. He's a players coach while at the same time being kind of cutthroat about,

you know, cutting people that aren't working out. The Seahawks made like, I don't know, It was like 200-something transactions the first year where they brought a whole bunch of guys in, tried to find players that really fit what they were trying to do and really bought in. I don't know. I'm just like excited to like kind of relive that, hopefully with the Raiders where they, you know,

find their place and, you know, kind of establish themselves, even though they're in like one of the most impossible divisions. At least they'll be, I think they will be competitive. And again, so Pete Carroll did that in Seattle and he, you know, oldest coach in NFL history. But like, I want to check his biological age. Like, I don't look at Pete Carroll at the Raiders and see the oldest coach I've ever seen. Like there's a lot of coaches younger than him that are seeing. him way older than him. So I love what he's doing. And honest, to your point, DK. Culture, I consider

myself an expert in culture now because little culture Craig, I told you this. I'm doing sourdough now. Doing this. And like this is, you need the starter. You know, it's, you can try to do your own starter, but it takes time. It could go wrong. You can wait. Like, just go and get Gino Smith. He's the culture starter. And then you can just build something around.

It's like you got to get. You got to get this thing going. Sure. D.K. Our hyphins and I are both bread boys now. You guys. It's taken over for golf. Now you just talk about bread. I got a starter for my aunt. My starter's been alive for nine years. I feed it every week.

Nine year starter? That's right, baby. Once a week. Wow. Keep in the fridge. If I'm going to bake, you start to feed it more frequently every day and you can keep it out. What are you feeding it? Flower and water.

Like, flour and water. Craig, what is your start? Do you have a sour to recipe? You just vibe it because the first one I made one really well. You liked my crumb structure. The second one was like not.

Well, you forgot to score it, which was a problem. And that's a huge problem. Huge problem. That's literally the easiest part of the process is scoring it. That's the final step. But it looks really good. Also, I'm not a bread expert. I've made it once.

I thought I nailed it. But I used Claire Safetz's bread recipe. I don't even know what publication is on her, but it's just like her website. But Claire Savitz's bread. It might have been New York Times and it was great. Oh, yeah. I did the New York Times,

the sourdough base. Email us your sourdough tips, ringer fancy football at gmail.com. I will also say the whole weighing it, I don't do any of that. Like I just do like a cup and half of the water. I weigh everything down to the ounce. Do I have to get a scale like a drug dealer to make my fucking bread?

Do I really? As somebody who's falling in love is baking. As somebody who's falling in love is baking. I'm fine. I'll do it. I love it. Same through the Raiders. You get a scale third round.

Yeah, anyway, Gino Smith. So I think it's great. I think the Raiders are exciting. And like, I mean, who are the teams easier to root for than the Raiders now? With Pete Carroll coming back from the dead. Which is so crazy. Chip Kelly, which I don't know if he's rootable, but it's cool. If it wasn't for the commanders who had one of the most in the

insane culture 180s. The Raiders, what they're doing, like, the fact that the Raiders are kind of, the season hasn't happened yet, so they might be terrible. But in terms of just off-season moves, culture changes. Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly, Tom Brady, Gino Smith, are like, wow, the Raiders are a real team again.

It's crazy and quickly that happens. Because you have, like, the Bills, Josh Allen, you have the Bengalshielboro, you have like the Ravens, Lamar, like, but those are all basically Super Bowl contenders that haven't won a Super Bowl. And then, like, the Raiders are kind of right there of like this indie band where you're like, man, I want to see them do something.

I think it's really fun. There's certain combinations of personalities and people that go together and you're like, I don't know how this is going to work. But I feel like what the Raiders have right now, it feels real. I think SpyTech, we don't know a ton about him, but just listening to him talk, it seems like he has a lot of energy with, you know, the same match Pete Carroll's energy. Tom Brady and Pete Carroll is just kind of a funny pairing, but I kind of love it. And then Chip Kelly coming in and being an OC for Pete Carroll.

I don't know. Yeah. So other things that happen. So the Jets signed Justin Fields, who was Steelers quarterback, and then they signed him, and then he went four and two, and they benched him for Russell Wilson,

and they came in to do a couple like quarterback sneaks, basically. And now he's on the Jets. So he got two years for $40 million. He's getting $20 million a year. I got to tell you guys, I think Justin Fields is like an S-tier jet. I think he's one of the most jetsy players

there's ever been to be a jet. He's up there with like Levy on Bell and like all these other jets where you're like, man, that guy's such a jet. Levion Bell was the first one he thought of. Well, just the signings, but you know why? But there's a specific window of Jetsy's signing. Raylon Edwards back in the day, and here's what's important.

Oh, yeah, great one. You have to be good enough that the fans will talk themselves into you in the off season, invest in, and then during the season, you will flash and they'll be in. But you have to be bad enough that everyone knows the whole time. There's no way this is going to work. And it's in the back. it's front of mind at the beginning, and then in the back of your mind the whole time

that this will fail, and then you believe, and then they fail anyway. And I think Fields is like the perfect example of, he'll have moments, but like he will not fix the Jeff's quarterback situation. You remember the Justin Fields moment? I think it was when they beat the 49ers in like a rain, like a monsoon storm.

And he like slid in for a touchdown. I just have this memory in my mind of him like standing in the end zone with like all his people around him. And I'm just like, there's going to be like one of those. moments for the Jets, but it's going to be fleeting. It's going to be very fleeting. I don't know.

I kind of like this. I think it makes sense for the Jets. Like it's not going to be a long-term fix almost surely. But you're not giving him a ton of money. You're not committing to him long-term. He's going to be exciting. He's going to run around a lot. He can reinvigorate their run game, I think, with the things that he can do on the ground.

And obviously with Brise Hall and Braylon Allen. Garrett Wilson just feed him, I guess. I don't know. I don't know what their plan is really, but it could be interesting. Well, to be clear, as all the Jets fans are mad at me, one, you know, it's true too. I mean, look, this is a better plan. Do Jeffs fans actually believe anything good's going to happen? No, I think they're dead inside. Okay, yeah.

But every Jeffs fan I've talked to is like, Sean Fettysseys like, this is going to end. Everyone's going to get fired. Yeah, we're all going to die. But I do look, again, I'm not going to say I'm confident. Like, again, this time last year, I told you guys, I kind of like Sam Donald on the Vikings. I don't feel as good about this. Yeah, I didn't for the record. I'll, I'll admit that. I was like, ah. Yeah.

I think this is kind of thing this is not going to go well. Tetherball kind of came back in the back of the head there. But I will suggest. Justin Fields, I look at it as, dude, I wouldn't be shocked if he was just good. I mean, part of me is like, I mean, dude, again, he's in my quarterback. Look, are there questions with his throwing motion and like, I think he's processing? I think all this stuff, like he hasn't been a perfect player. I've also seen him at the very least shred bad defenses.

Like he went on Thursday of football destroyed a very bad Washington defense. So I don't know. Part of me is, I've seen stranger things than a player as talented as Justin Fields become a usable NFL piece. I'm kind of like, I don't know. Can he be like basically like, discount Jalen Hertz where he's probably a better runner and obviously not as disciplined of a passer, but I'm like, I don't know.

I kind of still like Justin Phil sometimes. Tanner, Engstrom. Engstrand. Engstrand. Oh, yeah. How do you say his name? Engstrand. Tanner Engstrand.

I don't disagree with you. He's the O.C. But this is also such offseason talk. Like it's, it's such reckless offseason optimism. We're building a scenario in which Justin Fields is good. Well, here's the thing. Think of it this way. Remember what DK said like 20 minutes ago?

Teams tell you what they think of players. He was Fielers literally didn't play. He's went four and two and then the Steelers didn't play him again. So the Steelers went four and two with Justin Fields. And then we're like, hey, Jets, can we have Aaron Rogers? The guy who's fucking torpedoing, that's so crazy. Literally, yeah. These people delude themselves into thinking that it's going to work from that.

It's going to work for them, but it never does. That's the irony of the whole thing is. It could work for us. All these shitty teams, just trading their bad quarterbacks and we're like, ooh, and it's like, in reality, everyone's just doing what the Raiders did. If you need logs. And if you need a lot. New Jersey's, yeah.

I know. My God, we're such marks. I will just say also, among other things, the Jets lost DJ Reed, their cornerback to the Lions. And then they signed Brandon Stevens for slight less money. And I'm like, I don't know why he's better. And they signed the linebacker Jamie and Sherwood for $50 million. Sure. And huge, I'm a huge Jamie and Sherwood fan.

He's getting Fred Warner money. What's your favorite Jamie and Sherwood? I got to say there's been so many, is he a linebacker or a lineman? He's inside linebacker. Inside lineback, yeah. But there's been a lot of random like 26-year-old defensive linemen or linebackers getting like three years, $51 million this year. Craig, they're simbing the rest of the off season.

Everyone gets $3 million. I've never seen so many random defensive tackles making $18 million a year. Everyone's getting 14. I could explain what's going on with free agency, but instead I could also just be, I have two guys you got $10 million per year today and a lie. You can play that. Okay. All right.

Two guys you got $10 million per year today and a lie. Patrick Jones the second. I believe Patrick Jones the second. Yeah. Luke Farrell. Tide in, Niners signed him. I believe that's correct. What team was he on before, Craig?

The Jags? Right? Where was he? I think so, yeah. Last was Jaylon Moore. The fact that we don't know for sure says a lot. It speaks volumes. Jalen Moore is the lineman the chief signed?

Yes. From the Niners? Yeah. So Luke, they're all real people. Patrick Jones. So then Jalen Moore got 10 million. Jalen Moore is the backup.

Trent Williams backup left tackle that the chiefs were like, you can be our starter. And then Patrick Jones, I think he went from the Vikings to I am forgetting already, to be honest. Luke Farrell. The Panthers panicking that didn't get Milton William. Luke Farrell, who is the Jags full back tight end. And now the Niners are like,

you can be like, you should be like, But anyway, a lot of random people got paid. And then it's like all the quote retweets are great. It's always like Broncos get who funga. That defense is going to be insane. Pat's retooling gritty variable guys. Bears align.

Bears are reloading and ready to win. I just love it. The free agency is kind of like the 40-yard dash of the other part of the NFL where it's like you read a sick 40-yard dash. And everyone's telling you why this guy's so good? You're like, all right, cool. So like, why does the old team let him go? Why is he available?

And like that's kind of the mindfield of free agency is can you either find someone who's deeply misused or hasn't been healthy and will be healthy for you or honestly the rarest of all is actually a good player the team just couldn't keep because it was random which is what you hope for with like a Milton Williams because the Eagles are just like have all these good players. But like it's mostly it's just a bunch of players

that team saw for five years and we're like, yeah, we don't need that guy back. Which is generally speaking pretty bad. Like the bucks, the Bucks Center Robert Hainsey signed with the Jags. and I saw somebody be like, Jags got their guy.

I'm like, what's going on? Craig's like, I've never heard of this person. Oh, my God. Center Robert Ainsie. Jags get their guy. The Rams signed Devante Adams, which was sick,

and this was over the weekend's. He got two years for 46 million. Tough fucking beat of your Cooper Cup. I know. Oh, my God. I mean, this is incredible. This is the X-roll.

This is like that stationary outside receiver where it's like, it was Brandon Cooks in this offense. And then the Rams made the Super Bowl. and then they tried to replace him. And then when they got O'Dell Beckham, then the Rams made and won the Super Bowl, even though we got hurt in the game,

like the game changed when Odell went out. And then they had like DeMarcus Robinson trying to be it. But like this is it. Barneville had this great note of just like Cooper Cup and Pooka and Koo or just like, Tutu Atwell are constantly in motion. And like leading the league and catches after motion. And then two to, sorry, DeMarcus Robinson did not have a catch in after motion this season.

That's Devante Adams job. Like he's jobs to beat man. Everyone else's job is to be in zone. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, it's pretty incredible for the Rams getting Matt Stafford and Devante. The Rams are so annoying, man. They are, they are the perfect rebuttal to any fan who's like, yeah, yeah, we're rebuilding.

It's going to take a few years. It's like, look at what the Rams that keep doing. Why are they still competitive, even though we've like talked about them shitting the bed with this out of the other thing. Aaron Donald retired. They immediately got two really good rookies on the defensive line. No first round picks. Doesn't matter.

Yeah, they didn't pick. the first round for like eight straight years. You know, they went and traded for Matt Stafford, which turned out, I mean, I guess it did turn into be kind of like a wash for, because Jerry Goff turned out really well for the Lions. But I mean, they got a Super Bowl out of that. They just keep doing this where it's like they make these really smart. They make these really smart plays. I remember last year at the draft, there was all these rumors they were trying to trade up for Brock Bowers. Oh, the Rams. Yeah. Sorry. I was like, yeah, the Rams. I was like, the Rams. I was like, the NFL needs to step in.

not let the Rams get Brock Bowers. This is bullshit. Thank God they didn't because look at what he turned into. I'm sorry for you as a Seahawks fan where you're like getting rid of Dek-Mack-F. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. He's harmless there. Good for me. Good for me personally. Yeah. I did, yeah, the Seahawks losing D.K. McHaff is the Rams

game, Devante. I don't know. I, this is unbelievable to me. Again, who is the second best receiver on the Seahawks right now? I pulled up the death chart. I implore you to tell me. Craig, I want to play two Seahawks. receivers in a lie with you right now.

Oh, yeah. Okay. So, yeah, Jackson Smith and Jake Bo, who's, you know, first rounder out of Ohio State. That's number one. And that is Deacon mentioned Jake Bobo, who, was he even drafted? Was he seven-th round? No, he was an undraft. Because he ran 4-9 in the 40.

It's number two. Impossible. I don't understand how that works. He's the next hookah. Other receivers on the Seahawks. Derek Young? No, that can't be real. I think it's Doreek.

Dorek. Satoa, LeMaya. Well, I don't know for sure, actually. John Reese Plumley Cody White One of those is fake Yeah Cody White

No he's real Sam Satoa Lamea is a backup right guard But they have John Reese Plumley Jalen Darman Who's gonna practice John Rees Plumley That's fucking fake

John Rees Plumley He's real John Rees Plumley Central Florida He is John Rees Plumley from Central Sounds like he's a Talibagga Knight's character John Rees Plumley Yeah no that guy

Remember how over the last couple years I just been talking to you guys and believing strongly that you need two at least really good receivers and in some cases three really good receivers to be like a legit offense in the NFL? If you look around at the best offenses they always have two at least and sometimes three.

Yeah. No, I wasn't going anywhere with that. It's just asking you if you remember that. If only you guys had someone that was like kind of big like you know, only we had someone that would literally change the dynamic of how you have to defend this team. Like a human terminator on the field in the prime of his life. Who is also like the coolest guy,

the coolest player to watch him ever seen. He is so cool. The Steelers will lead the league in wide receiver penalties, not even close. Oh, my God. Craig, it's going to annoy the fuck out of you. They're going to hate each other too. I will say, though, with the Rams,

I just can't get over this. I mean, yeah, I think Devante. I also think there's all these old receivers that are around, like, you know, Stefan Diggs is coming off to Torn ACL, and you have like, you know, Omari Cooper is still kicking, DeAndre Hopkins on the Chiefs and like Cooper Cup obviously

who's going to get cutter traded. I think it's, there's no question. The person not near their prime, but capable every now and reaching back and actually looking like the old version. Devante Adams is easily

the closest to that, not even question. Like he's kind of still 80% of what his prime was. Do you remember when he had like 170 yards in the fourth quarter? Yeah. He's unbelievable.

And now it's Stafford and this thing, Stafford and Devante? Like, that is. Stafford's going to feed him. It's going to be so fun. And so at Devon. That's the guy you kind of want in fantasy because I don't know.

I'm torn, but I overall, Devante Pook, I think that's going to be amazing for the Rams. They also give $10 million to Tutu Atwell, who doesn't have a thousand yards in his entire career? Stafford likes, I mean, I think McVeigh likes Chitou Atwell because there was that one stretch where everybody was hurt and Tutu kind of went off for like a month and a half. I think McVeigh is like this guy's good.

Dude, Tutu Outwell is like Solac size, but he can run like a 4-3. And so he gets $10 million bucks. It's unbelievable. They also resign to McGrawi. 10 million for a receiver isn't that much, though, really. I think that's the new, tall enough to get in the ride the ride. It's like everyone's getting $10 million.

The other ones I want to go through. So the Patriots signed a bunch of guys. They've been making moves. They've been making some moves. So the Patriots went at it. So they signed Milton Williams, the defensive tackle away from the Eagles. And then they got Carlton Davis, the cornerback away from the Lions for like $20 million a year. And then they got Roberts Blaine.

He was the Raiders linebacker for like $12 million a year. Harold Landry, pass rusher for the Titans, $14 million a year. Morgan Moses, who was the Jets. right tackle for $8 million a year. Most of these guys just played for Mike Vrable or Mike Vrable's defensive coordinator. But it's exciting enough. Bill Simmons actually texted us and was like, Pat's. I know.

You know things are going well. I can't tell if it's Bill's unwavering positivity. But I do kind of think the Pats are doing a good job right now, you know? I can't remember when it's bewildering. I remember when Patriots fans would make fun of people who thought they won the off season. And now it's like that's what, you know, that's Bill's thrill right now for the past is when you're at the bottom, that's all you have. I guess we just get into what's going on with free agency right now, but there's a reason all these teams kept their talent.

And so basically it was a bad free agent class, and then the cap went up. So again, teams have $100 million more in cap than they did seven years ago, which is insane. So now you have a bad free agent class. And all these teams, honestly, they all blink. They all resigned their players. Like Chris Godwin went back to the bucks.

And I mean, Ronnie Staley went back to the Raven. Zach won back to the Eagles and go through it through the list. But all these guys kept their teams. All these, sorry, all these teams kept their players. So the free agent class got worse, but now you still have the money to spend. So the Patriots did what I respect is just go and get the good players. And they just went and got good football. Like Milton Williams is a good defensive tackle.

Is it too much money? Whatever. But like they had all this money. Carlton Davis is a good cornerback. So they're getting good football players at too much money, which I prefer than overpaying guys that might maybe shouldn't even start for you at all. Because the Patriots think the Pats are the most cap space in the NFL because they haven't drafted anyone worth paying.

in like four years. So the Patriots are in this weird place where they don't have any talent on the team. They just need bodies. And so I think this was solid. I mean, if you look at some of the recent draft classes for the,

oh my God, for the Patriots, this is like to be like real and analytical for a minute. Like if you miss on one full draft class, which is happening, it happens a lot. If you basically miss on every single one of them, it can set your team back like two or three years

just because you don't have the depth. Then you have to spend all this money in free agents. and then you can't retain some of your best outgoing free agent. It just like really fucks up your roster development, you know, like timeline. If you miss on all your players in a draft class, it can set you back years. And the and the Patriots have done that like three or four times over the last couple years. If you look at some of these classes, it's like yikes. None of these guys are good.

I mean, yeah, I mean, the Patriots, I mean, the Cole Strange year, shout out Chattanooga. The Cole Strangier, like 2022, they basically got almost nothing out of that draft. I mean, I guess Marcus Jones and Jack Jones, but then. you know, that was kind of like a strange tenure for Jack Jones. So Marcus Jones, all right. And then you just go through all these other years. It's like Christian Gonzalez and Christian Barmore, the Christians are their best two Patriots. I don't even know Christian Barmer is going to keep playing the NFL because he's got this blood clot issue.

We don't know what he can return. So I think, anyway, I think the Patriots got competitive. And again, that's another team where the vibes are like Mike Vrable coming in, blank slate. Like, he's, that's kind of the Raiders of the AFC East where you're just a culture. and they're just going to be competitive right off the bat. Like I won't be surprised that Patriots smack the Miami Dolphins, even though on paper the Dolphins are a better team, just because I think the Patriots are going to be more.

Receivers. And an offensive line. I mean, they need to really address both those things. But yeah. The other one. So Cleveland resigned Miles Garrett to a absolutely massive contract. I don't,

there's still not a ton of details on this, but allegedly it's $40 million per year with 120. Passersersers are getting like quarterback money now. I don't know if I even believe that. 40 million a year, but like 40 million a year is preposterous for an NFL. He's a great player. He's a good. Not a bad thing to have good players on your roster.

Yeah. This is the only time I'm like, yeah. It's the Browns. There's no good option because if you pay Miles Garrett this contract that you've been so bad that he literally wanted to leave. He called LeBron James to go, like for permission from the patron saying of leaving Cleveland. And LeBron's like, do what you got to do. But then the flip side is.

Yeah, but the guys, can he pick it now? I know. So fixed. But isn't Miles Garrett the best Brown since Jim Brown, like in the 60s? Like, you're going to be the person who gets rid of him. So they had to pay him. $40 million a year heading into his year 30 season. And it's like every now he's 30.

So is he 30 or he's going to be 31? Well, he's going to be 30 in 2025. He's 29. It really is true. Oh, he turns 30 in December. We frame it however we want. Of course. That's how to, that's in all things in life.

Yeah. but part of me is like this team stinks and now you're going to give $40 million a year to a guy a pass rusher who's going to be 30 this year and every statistical data point you see shows the drop off of pass rushes when they get to like 30 31 so it's like obviously he's an outlier he's a hall of fame he's one of the best pass rushes we've seen in a long time but i'm kind of like i don't know you guys are you probably should trade him and get as many things as you can in return and just like rebuild but sure i guess you could just have one incredible player i saw a really funny tweet from Invictus.

And it says, the Browns are now rostered like my seven-year-old Pokemon team. One level 100, Geridos and some ratat and some rotatas. I don't know what that means. You don't know who Gerados is? No. No. Who's Geridos? What? You never played Pokemon? No. Wow. Calvin is really into Pokemon right now. I think I have this job because I never played Pokemon.

Because my mom would never buy me the cards because she thought that they were stupid. So all the kids, when they play Pokemon, I would just, like, read fantasy football magazines alone because I didn't have any Pokemon cards. And so now I do this. I had Pokemon. I only played, like, the original, more, like, earlier generations of Pokemon with the cards. But Giridose was, like, one of the best Pokemon's you can have.

Level 100 is, like, the highest he can go. Gerdatos? Of all time. And then a rotata is, like, the most irrelevant, random little cannon fodder you can have on your team that will just get, like, blown away by the wind. He's like a Darius Johnson. Damn, I went over, too, on people who know Pokemon on this on this podcast well we need

Solac get Calvin on here Calvin's it's so like oh is he any Pokemon yeah email so you've been like eight years old and your mom's like Pokemon is stupid I was just like I was just like I was thinking about getting Pokemon on this and I was like mom all the kids have Pokemon because I guess

I was probably too afraid to ask for I was just like all the kids have Pokemon kind of wanting Pokemon and she's like well Pokemon's dumb I don't want you playing Pokemon I was like yeah it is dumb and so I read about how Brandon Jackson might win the Packers running back job shit. And so, but yeah, no, I didn't, I never played Pokemon. Yeah, I just sat. Well, I just, because you know what the worst thing ever, though, is sitting in a circle people playing

Pokemon and you don't fucking have cards. You know, like, what are you going to do? Listen to that. There's like how I feel about Paw Patrol. I'm not letting Paw Patrol happen in my household. It's so annoying. Your magic trick of the Paw Patrol machine broke and so you stop watching it for two years. Lying. Lying is the best way that you can parent. It's like, it's really, really effective. Just lie. Just lie through your teeth. Sure. slippery slopes. What are the other lies you tell your children?

Oh, all kinds. Like what? My children. Childs, whatever. Give me, like, the top three parent lies for a kid under five that makes life easier. Oh, God. I'm going to have to think about that. That's a really good question.

Email us at your fantasy football at gmail.com lies that are helpful to tell you. I mean, I think it's like number one, just telling some, telling them something is broken because you don't want to do it is just a blanket. It's so useful. So you can utilize it anytime. You know, and they believe you. are extremely gullible. You wouldn't believe it.

I think my mom told me, I think I've said this in the show, that when I was a kid, she told my brother and I that we were allergic to, like, dark soda, like colas. Right.

So we're, I was like, all right, not going to drink that. I mean, that's an altruistic lie. So, I think you're going to tell the Steelers that

the Aaron Rogers machine is broken, right, Craig? I want Aaron, and I want him right now. That's good. Email us the other parent lies. DK., if you think of any more,

let us know. I will. But yeah, yeah, Garrett will see. I mean, he's almost 30. He's almost 30. I think the other one, frankly, is this Miles Garrett one is, to me,

there's also a business argument, which isn't always how you want to think about this stuff, but sometimes you have to. Who the fuck is on the tickets or the Cleveland Browns if you trade Miles Garrett? Like, how far can you push your fan base? This fan base has been through so much, and then once the moment they get competitive, you get to Sean Watson, you go all,

and it's probably the worst transaction in the history of sports for a player. And then, I mean, it was bad when we thought he was good. and then now you're going to trade Miles Garrett. Also, the Cleveland Cavs are good. Like, at some point, people stop watching your team. Who is on the season ticket package for the Browns if Miles Garrett's gone? That's fine, but like, you're going to win five games with them.

Do you think that's something that the GM really thinks about ever? I think it's saying all the owners think about. Yeah, but the GM. John, well, the GM, yes and no, because you've got to manage Jimmy has them. I think that probably not here. Like when John Morrow said, see, he didn't say Seqon's, their best player. It's the sick one's the most popular player.

I don't want to go to the Eagles. But I will say the Miles Garrett thing. It's a bad way to run a team though, isn't it? Yeah, fair. But I think the flip side is, the football side is, Miles Garrett, the best historical comp firm is Reggie White, where Reggie White hit free agency was like 2930. And everyone's like, I don't know if you want to pay this guy.

He's old. And then Reggie White had like some of the best years of his career after 30. And he's like a hallfamer and probably one of the four best defensive. But like, even if Miles Garrett has 20 sacks next year, it's like, okay, you still won five games. But in a world where like, Dude, Dan Moore Jr. But Dan Moore Jr.

You told me you have to try it when you're the fucking Browns. But you also pay. How do you try to win next year? But the contest again is a good player like Miles Garrett. Look at all the money being thrown. Dan Moore Jr., who is an unremarkable offensive lineman for the Steelers, who frankly wasn't even okay until last year. No, he's bad.

I'm glad he's gone. He's getting, he gets what. Dan Moore Jr. He wants Darren. Fuck this other guy. The Titans paid him more than Lane Johnson gets paid by the Eagles. Lane Johnson's like the best right tackle in the NFL. And he's getting.

less money that Dan Moore Jr. got from the Titans today. So in that world, don't you want to just pay Miles Garrett too much than pay Dan Moore Jr? Like half as much? No, get a million draft picks. Go the route of the Thunder or the Eagles, I mean, or the Sixers. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't work. But like if you're close to the bottom, you might as well get there and get as much fuel

as you can to rebuild. What if you only get a first in a second? Because Miles Garrett wants $40 million. What do you only get a first in a second? Yeah, I mean, look, I know it's complicated. He wanted a ton of money. but this does not move the needle for the Browns as Super Bowl contenders

because they're not going to win the Super Bowl or make the playoffs. I just have more empathy after losing Sequin and then before that O'Dell, but really Seekwon, I just have more empathy from fuck your best player. Who needs him? You suck.

And I'm like, ah, it's kind of all you have. I don't know. I will say this, though, to your point, he has multiple foot injuries last year, which again, he led the league in tackles for loss. But if Miles Garrett does decline, this is a catastrophe because they have the Watson thing and the Miles Garrett. You need Miles Garrett to stay incredible

or else this is horrific. So anyway, on that note, the other one that happened to the bills re-signed Josh Allen for like, this is over the weekend. Bill's re-signed Josh Allen for, I mean, six years and $330 million, which was bizarre because he was under contract for four more years. I know, I was like, I didn't actually,

he wasn't on my radar for guys that might get an extension. Well, because he was not. He was making so little money per year that they basically had to do this. And it's still a quarterback. It's still a very team-friendly deal for the bills. Josh, so, I mean, he got a lot of money last year. Like, the way the contracts work isn't as neat as just, like, the average per year is called average for a reason. But the problem was Josh won MVP, but Brock Purdy might get, like, double the cash paid to him this year that Josh Allen will, which is unacceptable.

And so the middle ground they came to is they're going to pay Josh this money. And it's enough that it's a huge raise for Josh Allen, but it's not crazy for the bills because it's basically like the Dak Prescott deal, which is palatable. literally what they did is he had four years left for like 130 million. They literally added, shout out to Greg Thompson at cover one for explaining this to me. They literally just added two years and $200 million. Like, I'm not kidding. They literally he had four years left for $130. They added, now he has six years for $3.30.

And they're just spreading it out over the six years. Just spreading it out. So instead of like, he was going to make $32 million over the next few years. Like, or sorry, literally the next three years he was going to get paid what Sam Darnel is getting paid from the Seahawks. Like the same money. 100 million over three years. Don't put it that way. You could have had Josh Allen, D.K.

Yeah, you could have Josh Allen. Maybe that's why they traded Gino and then the bills reissed Josh. They're like, oh, damn. I think John Schneider keeps trading quarterbacks. He traded Russell Wilson away. He traded Gino Smith away because he just still thinks about how much he wishes he would have drafted Josh Allen. There's like all these reports that always say the Seahawks really like Josh Allen that year. And they tried to trade up with the Browns to take Josh Allen, which is great in hindsight.

Yeah. Well, the irony is. All the other teams talk about how they almost drafted Russell Wilson of the third. I do think that the Seahawks thing, we didn't talk about this, but there's something about, you traded, you like drafted, you signed Matt Flynn and drafted Russell Wilson and he beat out Matt Flynn. So you're like, damn, I'm sick. And then you trade Russell Wilson. It works out great.

And you get Gino and that works. And you're like, damn, I'm sick. And this is like the third time where you're like, we're going to do saying again. Maybe this is hubris. That's the one that gets you. The third time? Right. Maybe take your chips off the table.

A few other deals here are just boring off. of line signings. Washington traded for Laramie Tunsells, the left tackle for the Texans. A lot of picks, I don't know if you want me to list them all, but basically, they swapped, like, it was Tunsel and a fourth to the commanders. And the Texans got a third this year. And then they also got a second and a fourth next year, plus the seventh. So the Texans that all get four picks? Yeah. Well, I guess three. Yeah. The Texans got moved for a fourth rounder into a third rounder this year and then they get a second and a fourth next year for Laramie Tunsell. But he's also only somehow only like 30 years old.

He is 30. What are the Texans doing? I don't know. This is kind of strange. I kind of wasn't thinking the Texans could use less offensive line help. Maybe this is one of those things where it's like the team is telling you how they feel about a player. Yes. Because what's weird is the last time, last game he played in 2023, whatever, that Texans

Brown's playoff game in the 2023, January, 2024. Laramie Monsel, like, shut down Miles Garrett. Laramie Tonsel was incredible that year. He wasn't as good this year, but I'm also like, but the whole offense wasn't, so I don't know what to parse of how much was him, how much was the offense, how much was the offensive line,

the literal lack of coordination. But I agree with D.K., where if they're willing to trade him at all, it suggests to me that they don't think he's worth keeping at left tackle, which is wild to me. So, we also, teams have been wrong in the past for the record.

They also signed Christian Kirk and Braxton Barrios at wide receiver. Problems out. So I, you know, Tank Dell, I'm not sure if he'll be back next year. So they're going to, and Stefan Diggs is a free agent. So they're going to have Nico Collins, Christian Kirk, who's coming off an injury, Braxton Barrios, Tank Dell. No, I don't know for seeing Tankdale this year because he had it. So he, because he had that horrible injury.

He had the ACL, the MCL and all this stuff. And so he had one surgery in December. He just had, I believe, the ACL surgery. like a week ago. So like early March, when a lot of these surgeries get done and like January's late. Not looking likely.

And they traded for Christian Kirk. They traded a seventh rounder for Christian Kirk. Yeah. So yeah, I feel like Christian Kirk is going to be, I don't know if it's the tankedel role, but I don't think we're going to see Tank, but we'll see Christian Kirk for Texans.

But yeah, I mean, exciting, I think, for Washington to get a real left tackle for Jane Daniels because they had like, what, Brandon Coleman. And they had this like kind of stitched together Washington offensive line, which was our biggest concern with them

coming into last season. That's why we were kind of down. I was kind of down on Washington. I didn't know how the line would work, and they kind of made it not a problem. But I think they could do more downfield stuff if they had more protection. But a lot of the screens were also kind of to protect the line.

Was there any sneaky signings that made you guys, you know, get excited? Eli Mitchell to the chiefs, I was kind of like, ooh, I like Eli Mitchell. Who? Elijah. Yeah. Called him Eli. What are you friends? Eli Mitchell.

See, I don't know. You don't call him Eli Mitchell? Call him Elijah. I call me Eli we're friends I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie to you Craig I had forgotten about I had forgotten that person existed Elijah Mitchell is very good he can't stay healthy he's kind of as a seal in August

he's kind of Rahim Moster for the night but again on the Niners but he's really good I just think it's weird the Chiefs are absorbing the Niners second string which speaks to how bad the Chiefs are for a great team because I still can't get over signing the backup left tackle from the night they're the first deal that happened afternoon was that signing the back of left tackle Jalen Moore, who's a fifth rounder in

2021 and started 12 games. And then Elijah Mitchell, who missed the entire season and the Chiefs just zoomed in to just be like, we need these two dudes. He's got talent. Kids got talent. I think at the end of the day, this is all going to look pretty bad for everyone. I kind of like how the Bears

redid their offensive line. Yeah, I think they traded for two offensive linemen in Joe Tunney and Jonah Jackson. Speaking of the Chiefs, speaking of the team, who is like,

who needs offensive linemen and the Chiefs traded Joe Tuny away to the Bears. Yeah, what do you know that we don't know? But I do like what they've done in terms of addressing very obvious positions of need

and using some of the cap space they have. I think the Tuning thing makes sense because, again, that's the guy that's available because the Chiefs are like, do we want to spend a ton of money at Guard right now? Probably not because they have all these other things they got to do.

but the Bears are like, screw it. We just need number one is to protect Caleb Williams. So Joe Tuny at left guard, I think is solid. And then they went and got Jonah Jackson who played for Ben Johnson at Detroit. Jonah Jackson was a mess in the Rams. Like he couldn't, he signed, Johnny Jackson said a huge deal to go to the Rams, couldn't play for them. And then the Bears just took on the deal.

But he's going back to Ben Johnson. So that's kind of, all right, well, Ben Johnson should know what the deal is. And then they signed Drew Dalman, who's the center for the Falcons. And sure, lost. We've gone an offensive line. We've gone over an hour without mentioning the Giants. how are you feeling? Well, they have a quarterback on the roster now

to sign Tommy DeVito. Yep. They re-signed Tommy DeVito. There's a lot of Russell Wilson to the Giants whispers at the moment. How are you feeling about this? Is that right? Well, maybe not a lot, but I have seen it.

I feel like Craig and I, we're playing hot potato for Aaron Rogers. We are either. Like, I don't want it. You don't want them. And Rogers is just basking in it right now. He's going to, he's going to, like, draw this out for at least four days. You guys got the corner, uh, Dibo.

Are you happy about that? Paul said, who led the league in, penalties last year. Yeah. $1.30. this point, $10 billion for a corner or whatever. I don't know,

man. Cap space is all fake. It's just, you got to spend it on someone, I guess, even if he led the league in flags. He was injured. I guess maybe he'll be healthier.

I don't even know what to say about the Giants. It's good. You come back to it every year. We talk about this every year. It's basically a cliche at this point. The teams that do nothing on day one of the free agency period are usually the best off. So you're saying the Giants are the team this. Well,

the Seals did on day negative one. So maybe they're ahead of the curve. True. True. Yeah. What do you want the Giants to do? Literally anything. A few moments later. D.K. wants to kill me. But we're recording because the Giants, after we stopped recording this episode, signed Darius Slayton to a contract. No one cares. No one cares. Okay. Well, here's where I'm going with three years. Why we do this?

$36 million. That's the fucking Sequin contract. They wouldn't give to Sequin Barclay. They gave it to Darius Slayton. That's, Sequan left for the Eagles with three years for $37 million. They gave it a year later to Darius Slayton. who they wanted off the team for five years. They've been trying to trade him since I can remember. What happened there? They, it's literally the same thing.

He's their most popular player. Slayton literally. He's on the tickets. He let the NFL in receiving, or sorry, not the NFL. He led the Giants receiving four of his first five seasons, and never had 800 yards in a year. And then the Giants literally have been trying to get rid of him every year. Like he was a Gettledon fifth round pick out of Auburn.

And he's like, Derr's saying's good. He should be the fourth receiver on the Chiefs. They literally gave him the Seiquot deal. A year ago, they wouldn't pay Sequin and they didn't want Darius Slate either. I'm sure it's not going to get half of this money, but yeah. What is the, why just pay Sequin? We're sitting here talking about all these rando people getting paid. Darius Slate's getting 12 million a year.

Why didn't the Giants pay Sequan? On one hand, we're just like, don't pay running banks. It's a bad value. And then they're like, oh, you've got to pay Darius Slate in 12 million year because he's a receiver who plays. What the fuck? on the bright side he'll probably have 700 yards this year 2 2 at well gets 10 million a year he's never had fucking he had a career high 534 yards this year

and then we're like well he's just starting a receiver and the giants didn't pay say whatever it's fine it's a bad decision very clearly i thought the giants wanted to get rid of him they do well clearly clearly not once for the fourth year in a row they try and realized they had no better options. I'm not shitting you. This is the fourth season in a row that they tried and realized they actually can't get rid of Darius Slayton. And like this is another thing.

It's like they could have traded him for like a fifth round pick like two years ago. Or a fourth. Not probably not a fourth, probably fifth. But still, just trade them. Now you're paying. Oh my God. They're so stupid. I hate my team.

I hate my team. I hate my team. I actually hate them. Why don't you dedicate your life to becoming the Giants GM? You really should. that's a good mix because I hate the Giants and then I'll hate myself and I'll be like a great race of who I hate more

I just like you know what I mean and this is where I'm having more rock munis and more empathy for like the Browns keeping Miles Garrett and all these people I'm like... It's a Yiddish word for empathy just like I feel you and I just like I he says that as if I would know that

he just ran right past that well yeah well yeah you're right but I just because I'm in my fields I just this is why I like the Raiders getting Gino Smith I don't want to hear anything about well they're going to win a Super Bowl I'm like the Raiders are getting Gina Smith so he can be competitive

I need to watch competitive football. I cannot believe they just get... If I had told any Giants fan two years ago, they're not going to pay Sequan, but they'll give the Sequan money to Darius Slaten, people would have shit their pants. Here's a question. What do you think...

Where do you think Darius Slaten is ranked among wide receivers in the NFL like? 60th? No, probably 80th. Probably 80th. 89th. Seaguan Barclay is pretty clearly the best best running back, if not maybe...

Worst case, like top three. It's just funny how that works. I just... Darius Slayton squarely in the zone of does not matter. So I'm on fantasy pros, and I'm looking at their wide receiver rankings for 2025, and Darius Slayton is 97th. Among receivers?

Among receivers. Yeah. Feels about right. Well, we're sequins among running backs. One. One. Dude, I just... They literally would.

Pay of Seqa on that this year, last year. And they're giving it to Darius Slayton. Can't live in the past, Typhitz. Can't live in the past. Dude, Darius Layton is only two spots ahead of a, who's Tori Horton? He's an incoming rookie. Oh. Oh, my God.

He's behind Tank Dell who probably won't even play. Yeah. Tick Dale got ACL surgery several days ago. Oh, my God. Anyway, yeah. Thank you for indulging me. I just, I hate this team. I would like to stop hating them.

Your, your face got really red. That was like maybe the most red I've seen your face getting. Dude, I keep realizing I'm not even close to over the sick. One thing, I'm like multiple stages. You're never going to be over it.

Yeah, you're going to be telling your kids about it. Just, classic. Joe Shane having the audacity to go to his press conference podium at the combine and say, I believe in taking shots at quarterback when he had zero quarterbacks on the team

was like astonishing. And so I don't know The true irony is where they should end up They should just have Daniel Jones back Which they can't do But like at some point If Rogers or Russell

If Russell Wilson goes to the Steelers And I'm looking down at Aaron Rogers Or who's the next best option And I'm like oh my God The next best option is fucking Daniel Jones You know who just signed breaking news here Zach Wilson Signs a one year $6 million dollar deal with the dollar

He got six mil To go play for the dollar Backup. Yeah. That's not bad. It's good money. Skyler Thompson. I,

yeah, the Giants suck, man. I don't know. It's so literally Tommy DeVito is like supposed to be a meme for three weeks. And that was three seasons ago. He's going to be on this team again.

So whatever. But overall, the bear is helping Caleb Williams is good. The Washington helping Jane Daniels, good offensive line. The chiefs obviously, like they need a, I don't know if a left tackle who's a backup helps Patrick Mahomes,

but they're trying. Do you think Tommy DeVito is the all-time most famous quarterback in terms of fame per win? Probably because like Tim Tebow is up there just because of how famous he is. He was already famous. And factoring in the college thing. Like he's a two one, two Heismans. Like Tim Tebow's like crazy famous.

Yeah. DeVito is really well known in NFL circles. And how many games did he win as a starter? He's won three. I mean, that's pretty crazy. I mean he's more famous than like other starting quarterbacks yeah right like is he more famous than Gardner Minchu

No minchew had kind of like a cold Yeah he had a moment Yeah maybe not a starting quarterback but I mean he's he's like legitimately like famous He's won three games He's up to Zach Wilson who's more I don't know I don't know he's heard of more Like he's more famous than Trey Lance right

I think yeah he has to be Wow that is sad that's yeah speaking about it is tray lansson free agent why don't you sign him i don't know the i was other resignings that happened again just chris godwoman back to the bucks i think it makes sense from the rehab there the ravens panicked and went back to ronie stanley the uh chiefs reigned nick bolton their linebacker he resigned hollywood brown for a year the other Xavier worthy was also arrested in texas which was crazy Xavier worthy the chief receiver booked for third degree felony assault uh and then the district attorney in texas declined to pursue charges so worthy was released the next day and not

charged. But overall, you have this chief receiver room where Rishi Rice was facing eight felony charges in Dallas after a six car crash last year. Hollywood Brown pled guilty to criminal speeding going 126 and a 65. The other chief receiver, Justin Ross, was charged with domestic battery two years ago. The charges were terminated, but he was charged. And that doesn't even include Tyree Kill. What the fuck is going on with the chief's receivers? I got to take. No car should be physically able to go over 80 miles an hour. Who loses in that side? You also did you didn't mention. Cadarious Tony, who also was arrested for assault this last couple, a month or two ago. Why does a car need, maybe we could go 90?

Why does a car need to go faster than 90 miles an hour? Dude, there are highways in Texas where the speed limit is 90. Perfect. Then the cap can be 90. There is no cars to need 100 miles an hour, 120 miles an hour. There's no need. Craig, your scientists were too busy trying to figure out if they could. and they, you know, what's the, what's the rest of thing?

They didn't spend the time wondering if they should. I think there's two kinds of people, two kinds of drivers, people who like fucking love going over 100 miles an hour and people who are really afraid to go over 100 miles an hour. Yeah, I don't do not. I'm the ladder. I don't need to go 100 miles an hour, but I understand people like enjoying it and thinking it's fun and electrifying. But still, it should not be, that's, you know. Go live on, go live in Germany and go drive the Audubon or something, you know. Yeah, go to fucking Germany.

If you want to go 120 miles an hour. I think there are people listening right now that are just enraged. That is that really? That's going to keep Craig up at night. It's a bad take. People should be allowed to go 120 miles an hour. Anti-American of you, Craig. I just want to go fast.

No. Just don't have a cool car. Just get into car racing, then. There's one big news item that we have not discussed. Oh, no. What did I forget? Josh Palmer. Oh, yeah.

Oh, my God. Sign way home. She'll lead with this. Forgot about it. Josh Allen. I didn't know he was a free agent. He literally got the Sequin Barclay Eagles contract last year, but to the bills. Was it three years 37?

Yeah, three years, 30s. Yeah, 12 million a year. This is the guy we're going to be talking about this time next year. Super Bowl hero. The Josh to Josh connection will be strong and people will soon come to realize how underutilized he was last year and how great he is. And I will say the Josh Palmer Hive is already out in full force, bringing up a lot of underlying metrics that went unnoticed.

last year, you know, explaining why the bills made an incredibly savvy signing in Josh Palmer and how he is actually now the best wide receiver on the Buffalo Bills. You don't actually reference any of these actual stats, but they're out there. Separation score is elite. He's got great hands. Those are real. He had awesome separation score much better than any player on the bills right now. He had awesome hands. He dropped one pass last year. Remember the Murray Cooper? He's a good player. He's a good player. Marry Cooper's not on the bills. Well, not anymore.

No. Matt Collins, gone. Khalil Shakir and Josh Palmer is a great place to start. And Keon Coleman. Yeah. And Keon Coleman, sure. I actually like Keon Coleman. What, you guys disagree?

No. I like Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir, and Josh Palmer's really good. That's solid. It's cute. That's rock solid. It's cute, yeah. They need like a, you know, they need a juice. They need D.K. Metcalfe there to kind of round things out, but that's not a bad base.

Curtis Samuel is fast. They have the kids. carrots, the celery and the onion. They don't have a meat yet, but it's not bad. Well, Josh tells the meat. That's what the money is. That's what the $200 billion extra is for. Yeah, that's right.

Now they got a stool going. It'd be sick if Dalton Kincaid would do something. Dude, what's up with him? I don't know. D.K., why is he bad? I don't know. Is he bad? Yeah, I'm kind of afraid he is. I liked him a lot coming out of college.

I thought he was really dynamic, really exciting. The way he moved was pretty unique. Like, he was a very, like his body control, his ability to run off the catch. Does he not do that anymore? He doesn't do any of it anymore. He's just cutting through. Like, imagining it. Was he just cutting through USC shitty Pact 12 defenses?

I was going to say, is the difference just the competition is overwhelming? Probably. Yeah. It's hard to tell when that's going to be a factor or not, huh? It is. It is. I just, I think I remember him playing. He had the most insane game against USC, I believe.

And I would remember just being like, this guy's awesome. Cannot wait to see him in the NFL. Reminds me of Travis Kelsey. Where did he go to college again? I think Dawson Knox might be better than him. Utah. I went to Utah. Utah.

Okay. Anyway, hopefully he's better this year. Yeah. Maybe he's just had a lot of injuries. Who knows? High Fitz. Gun to head. Where's Aaron Rogers in two days?

I think he's on one of our teams. Yeah, I think so, too. I think he's a giant. Just, dude, I'm going to, I literally, I'm not thinking about it because. The one thing is, like, is he trying to squeeze some? He's trying to squeeze both teams for cash right now. I don't know if the Steelers are going to, like, shell out for Aaron Rogers. Dude, the Giants, I, I, I, I,

I don't, what do you guys think of the Giants signing Aaron Rogers? I don't think it doesn't make any sense. I don't think it makes any sense either. I think it is the literal, put it this way, how many times have you seen that meme from arrested development of the, how could you possibly ever want to sign Aaron Rogers? It's like, has that ever worked for anyone? It's like, oh, well, people just delude themselves and I think it could work for them, but it could work for us.

It's like, the Giants having, like, if the Giants saw what happened to the Jets last year and then take Aaron Rogers, it's to me, similar to how they watched Jason Garrett for 10 years as the Cowboys head coach and then hired Jason Garrett to run their offense. Where I'm, I also will talk myself into it in like 90 seconds. But I feel. There is still enough like smoke with Aaron Rogers where you can still convince yourself

that his past self is still here just, just hidden. I can still believe. I will still look at the fact that he threw 28 touchdowns and 11 interceptions last year, which is a completely ridiculous number that is not indicative of how good he was. And then he got everyone fired. There are ways, just like we said, but is the guy 29 or is he 30? It depends on your perspective.

Same thing with Aaron Rogers right now. Let's do an email here. Email. I want to give a special, a special shout out to William, Willie. Willie. Bill. Who, if you guys remember, first of all, obviously, Voitek the bear, the Polish bear, who was a soldier.

Who we call WojTek. In World War II, we call him WojTech because we don't, we're not going to with Polish. And so, you know, he smoked Sigs and drank coffee and, you know, killed Nazis and got a, he got a medal in World War II. He got a medal. He got a medal. He should have been the main character of Cocaine Bear. It should have been about Boytank. Yeah.

That should be the prequel. The prequel of Cocaine Bear is War Bear. He's just on caffeine and cigarettes. Yeah. Dude, yeah. So, yeah, he, no, he's a, he's a decorated soldier. He was given a, what was this metal? Decorated.

Maybe he didn't get a metal. I think he did get a medal. I think you're right. He definitely got promoted. He was promoted from private to corporal. Yeah, he was incredible. Imagine the shitheads that didn't get a promotion over me. A bear got a promotion over me.

Honey, did you get that promotion? Now they gave it to that fucking bear. The fucking bear. They trust this bear war to be in charge of people than than me. Voitech the bear So anyway, Polish bear And the Chicago Bulls G League affiliate, the Windy City Bulls

Had a Polish Heritage Night where they had a bobblehead Of Voitek the bear with the Chicago Bowl And I put out on Blue Sky Please, if anyone is able to get their hands On one of these, can I have one? I would like to shout out Bill Who literally mailed me the bobblehead.

Look at that thing. And we got it. Amazing. And if you're on Spotify, wherever YouTube, I'm going to do a live unboxing right now. What does he got? What's he got? What's he holding there?

Unbox it. Well, this is the bear. This is the Chicago. What is he holding? Oh, I thought the, oh. I thought the bowl was the bear. I know. You kind of thought the bear would be taller.

Me too. I was like, I kind of just looks like the Chicago Bowl. We have a bowl. It really had, you know. I see now why they wouldn't make the bear like the main part of the bull's thing. But, oh, yeah, look at that. The bowl was just like I can't get fucking upstaged. It's in my contract.

Look at that. Voitech the bear. So Voitech doesn't actually bobble. Oh, you're right. Well, actually. It's still cool. Oh, he's got a neck brace on. Yeah, take us the neck brace on.

Dude, it says Voitech on the thing. Gus T. Oh, I get it, Wendy. Okay. Gus T. Oh, yeah, that's the name of the mask. What are the letters before Voightek? I think Miss.

I don't know if this is rank or Mr. Voitech, or is that he says like Corpull and. Polish? Yeah, it's probably a Polish thing. I wish he had a cigarette in his mouth, but that's cool. I was going to say, there's no coffee or six in this bobblehead. But shout out Will, getting Billy for getting me this. Did he wear a uniform?

Wait, no. Did he have anything? Did he wear anything? I bet they made him wear like something on his neck. I picture him wearing a hat, but I'm sure that's wrong. He definitely had kind of like a collar. Yeah, he had a collar because he's a bear. But then the rest of it, he's just, you know, he's just not wearing anything.

He's going to say maybe he's got like the poo bear thing going on with just a t-shirt. But no, not even a t-shirt. I kind of always pictured him in like a full military uniform. They're doing like the inspection. Why aren't your boots polished? He's standing in that line in the morning looking around. He's seven feet tall. okay

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about that help we're going to spread the gospel to parents you know misty mountains the song puts babies your stop makes him stop crying now we're going to make older kids you know just lie to them and email other start sourdough tips to

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Lord. Thank you, Counting Crows. Nice. I will again for the bobblehead. Counting crows, dude, yeah. I was trying to think, what's that song? You don't know what you got till it's gone. Yeah, parking lot. That's a Jonny Mitchell song, but they covered it. Right. That's what I kept thinking about with with respect to Gino Smith.

You don't know what you got until it's gone. I feel like there's going to be this moment where Gino Smith throws 30. touchdowns next year and see how fans are like fuck you know what I think about a lot how like ben McAdoo wanted to bench Eli Manning for Gino Smith and everyone rioted including me because he you know was like the Jets washout and I'm like they should listen to ben macadu. I mean Ben McAdoo was 100% right he was super right where is he these days he's like a court I think he's like he's a quarterback he's a quarterback he's a very respected quarterback guy because of stuff like that God remember the slicked back hair oh he's oh no Patriots Patriots shit

man he's only 47 he'll be 48 though all right goodbye everyone